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My cat has an alternate personality.
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He's a good boy.
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Uh -oh, uh -oh.
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I'm freaked out to get attacked.
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He bit my eye.
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He bit your eye?
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I don't want to give up.
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You can't furnish your house because of
the cat. Yes.
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Katrina cannot use the restroom in the
right place.
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Where's the litter box with that?
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That's a bit of a problem. I've got to
give her one last chance. I want you to
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think about what it feels like to be
her.
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I just want a cat that won't crap on my
sweater.
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I'm Jack from Galaxy.
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I am Cat.
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The animal behaviorist. Wow.
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The guardian's call.
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And they're dealing with a difficult
cat.
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Wow, he really does.
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I'm out to prove there is no such thing
as a bad cat. Just a cat needs my help.
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You did it.
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My name is Kirsten. I have a cat named
Gus.
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My friend Jenny saved Gus from a kill
shelter.
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And I met Gus, and he was very ill at
the time. And Jenny nursed Gus back to
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health and asked me to adopt him. I fell
in love with him.
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Good boy.
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Immediately after getting Gus, I noticed
that there were behavioral issues.
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And unfortunately, he doesn't swat, but
he actually uses his teeth.
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There's always scars on me. I've got,
like, you know, all these things are
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from Gus.
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There's some more permanent ones here.
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Once when I was laying down, Gus came
out of nowhere and attacked my face and
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put a flash in my forehead.
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I'm freaked out to get attacked.
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Uh -oh. Uh -oh.
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When I try to leave the house, Gus will
attack.
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He attacked me in bed and bit my
eyeball.
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I couldn't sleep for a day.
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I'm a professional musician.
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For playing music, you have to have your
hands in good shape. It's my
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livelihood. If anything happened where
he bit me and it got infected, that
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make it impossible for me to play.
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I love Gus.
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but he's jeopardizing my safety and my
comfort in my own home.
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I don't want him to attack me. When he
attacks me, I feel fearful and really
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discouraged, like there's nothing I can
do to help him.
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Jackson, I really need your help.
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Hey. Hi, Jackson. How are you? Welcome.
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Thank you very much. I heard that he...
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Beats you up. Here's one of the big ones
that happened a month ago.
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Oh, my God. That is so close.
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Yeah. Is that the worst that's ever?
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He bit my eye.
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He bit your eye? He literally did. His
tooth physically hit my eye. It was just
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after getting him, and he pounced on my
face.
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So that must have freaked you out right
off the bat.
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Yeah. And this happened in bed.
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So you sleep up there. I do.
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I'm looking up there and I'm thinking,
you are a sitting duck if you're up,
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well, a lying duck when you're up there.
You got no way out. If your cat is
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going really aggressive on you, you're
caught between a bed and a hard place.
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To protect myself at night, I've gone
through stages of wearing my glasses to
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bed. You do not. When I go to bed and
then when I wake up in the morning too,
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put my quilt like over my head.
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Wow. This is like a hostage crisis. She
is now quite literally tiptoeing around
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her entire life because of Gus.
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Gus Gus.
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Gus Gus.
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Has it gotten to the point where you
don't show affection the way you used
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Oh, I'm definitely hesitant towards him.
He looks very tricky right now, by the
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way. He's closing his eyes at me.
Probably if I try to pet him right now,
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know, like that kind of... Like, you
know, a little bit of that.
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And I'm watching you go for the pet. You
went kind of over, like you are afraid.
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I mean, are you...
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fairly consistently like this i think so
yeah you definitely want to see like
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that's a big signal right what you want
uh -huh i know what is it that you want
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so he goes right for the teeth he like
grabs my legs and bites through my pants
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So you're trying to leave the house he
doesn't? Yeah. So I'm a musician as
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So I've gotten into a pattern of placing
my instruments outside so that I don't
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alert him. Wow.
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So Kirsten's telling me that her leaving
the house will often trigger an attack.
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My mind goes to a couple of different
places. First of all, it could be
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separation anxiety.
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He gets so excited about her leaving
that he has to attack her.
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The other thing is that the action of
her getting ready to go and that up
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overstimulates him, and that leads him
to grabbing onto her. I'm doing this on
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purpose right now.
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Oh, interesting.
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I'm trying to overstimulate him, to
watch his body to see if it's going to
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out on me, but those normal kind of
stimulations aren't doing the trick.
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Me pulling on his tail did not
overstimulate him, which is...
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Okay. Are you saying, please, mister,
please, strange man, pet my belly. I
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to see if Gus is going to play, if he's
going to play predictably, if he's going
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to let that energy out of his system.
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He's a tough customer.
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If he's giving us any signal, wow.
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What's that about?
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I'm seeing really conflicting signals
coming off of Gus's body.
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If I touch here, he's already ready to
bite me. Look at his tail going.
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His tail starts going, starts flicking
around. He's trying to talk himself into
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being cool and mellow.
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But this part of his body won't let him.
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I don't even understand how you have a
normal relationship with your cat.
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I'm so afraid of knowing the reality of
the situation.
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Like, just because I ignore it. Like,
when this stuff happens, I just try to,
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like, to see the good.
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But I don't want to give up. I, like, I
know if I give him away, someone
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wouldn't have the understanding for him.
And I think it would just really...
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mess him up even more you've got a feel
for kirsten her best friend sort of
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talks her into taking this cat and now
she's getting beat up and bit on a
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regular basis you know i want jenny to
come over because i want to hear the
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of her best friend who convinced kirsten
in the first place to take this cat i
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want to see what her honest take is here
how are you feeling about this at this
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point i guess i never like really paid
attention to physically what was going
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and it wasn't until what about a month
or so ago that I saw all the marks on
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arm. And I thought about all the stories
she would tell me and thought maybe
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it's a little bit understated. I'd be
mild about it.
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On many levels, it's so important for
Kirsten to come clean, to show Jenny and
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the damage that Gus has inflicted. I
feel like he's just beating her up. And
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I've never shown her pictures of when
they've happened because I'm too scared.
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The pictures that you have?
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Of the incidents.
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You have these pictures? Yeah.
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Can I see them?
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I haven't wanted to share with my friend
Jenny the photographs of being attacked
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because I'm embarrassed that it's gotten
to this point.
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She's clearly carrying some shame around
this whole thing, that she has
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something to hide, and I need to just
break that down. I think it's important
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get a grip on what's going on here.
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He tried so hard, and I feel like he's
just beating her up.
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And I've never shown her pictures of
when they've happened because I'm too
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scared. The pictures that you have?
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Of the incidents. You have these
pictures? Yeah.
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Can I see them?
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I think it's important to get a grip on
what's going on here.
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On many levels, it's so important for
Kirsten to come clean.
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She's clearly carrying some shame around
this whole thing, and I need to just
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break that down.
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Whoa. This is 10 months ago.
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Oh, God.
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That's horrible. Those are teeth marks.
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We're talking about not even an inch
from your eye. I do feel a pretty
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tremendous amount of guilt when it comes
to Kirsten and Gus because I really did
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support the decision to adopt Gus, but
really we're kind of out of options
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unless this works with Jackson.
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I don't like showing really anyone.
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Kirsten is taking the trauma of this
entire relationship and pushing it away
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from her. And I think that she also
feels abused by her cat.
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It breaks my heart to see.
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this relationship turn you into a
hostage he is an overstimulation cat his
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just gets too wound up but the things
that are overstimulating him are
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mysterious i'm pulling on his tail i'm
heading this area that should stimulate
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him nothing you playing saxophone
doesn't overstimulate him which is
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right That said, I'm just walking back
and forth, back and forth, walking back
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and forth. And then look at him. Look at
how he's getting right now.
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All I did was overstimulate him without
ever touching him. So I want to give you
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homework. First thing first is
observation. We have to be able to.
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to start breaking down his body
language. In order to break down Gus's
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I want Kirsten to journal it with the
homework camera I'm giving her. Now
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getting into routine, okay? I want you
to work as hard as you can that first
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thing in the morning to get him moving.
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And after play, you can get ready to
leave, right? Now let's get onto that,
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leaving part. Do not do this thing
anymore where it's just piece by piece
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piece. Get on with your life.
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Every piece of body language that she is
presenting to Gus is perpetuating this
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problem. Walk through and pay no
attention to him. Okay. Nothing.
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Don't look, don't say his name, don't
regard him.
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Don't stop. Don't feed the fear.
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Don't feed that energy. It will get you
into trouble.
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I'm not going to give up on this guy. We
just got to figure out how to take the
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fuse off the bomb. I've been paralyzed
by fear in a situation.
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And I hope that doing this homework that
I can feel empowered.
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Thanks for your help. Yeah.
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I come back here next time and I want to
see Kirsten a little more in control of
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the situation. And that comes with
knowledge. We're going to make sure he
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be a cat that can live with Kirsten
without damaging her and damaging his
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chances of survival in this world.
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Tastes about to poop. Don't, don't,
don't.
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Katrina cannot use the restroom.
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Ain't no right.
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My name is Mikkel.
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My name is Ian.
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My name is Jennifer.
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My name is Janique. We have a 10 -year
-old rusty cat, Katrina.
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There it is with the cat. You wouldn't
think that there was anything that this
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cat could do wrong. When we first met
Katrina, she'd gone through a lot.
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I saw the devastation after the
hurricane that hit New Orleans, and I
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to help.
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I really wanted to rescue an animal.
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This little cat is Katrina.
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But about a year ago, she started peeing
in weird places.
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Clothing, bedding. This is his homework.
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She peed on the cat bed.
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Cat peed on the quilt.
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Oh, that smells.
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That smells really bad.
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My dad has never really had a problem
with Katrina.
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We'd really like to keep her.
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But my mom and my younger brother want
nothing to do with her.
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Evil cat. Katrina. Not evil. I just want
a cat that won't crap on my sweater.
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We really need some help with this cat.
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Hi. Hey. Hi. Come on in. Well, thanks.
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Wow, this is different.
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There's a lot of room in here, man.
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It's the strangest thing. There's not a
stick of furniture. Something's not
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right here.
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It's really like... Fart neck are we in
here?
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We just bought the place, and this was
our dream home. We just can't furnish it
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because of Katrina.
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Katrina the cat.
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Yes. The only thing in here is a chair,
a couch, and a cat tree. We've had to
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throw away a ton of furniture, actually.
Chairs, beds. You can't even donate it,
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so we've just had to throw it away.
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And is the whole house kind of like
this?
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Most of it.
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Seriously? Yeah.
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So tell me the story of Katrina.
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Well... When I was, I think I was five,
I convinced my somewhat willing parents
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to go to New Orleans after the
devastating Hurricane Katrina hit. And
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volunteered at an animal shelter. Oh,
cool. Right on.
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And I ended up, at the end of the trip,
bringing Katrina back home.
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That's pretty fantastic.
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My heart goes out to you guys because
you have given up a ton.
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Literally, probably a ton of stuff.
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And everyone's looking at you because it
was your doing, huh? Yeah, heart of
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gold. He ran into the garage, put on a
toy tool belt, said, we have to help
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these people. But how do you say no when
somebody says, I want to go help
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people? Well, you could, but you didn't,
which is amazing.
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All you've got to know about this family
is what they did to even get this cat
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in their life. Just that alone makes me
want to work just that much harder for
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them. There really weren't any issues
until about a year ago. A year ago.
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So there's a puzzle to reassemble here.
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When you guys moved, did it become sort
of an explosive problem at that point?
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Yes. More so, yeah. We know that Katrina
only started peeing around the house
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only a year ago. That tells me that
there was some sort of event in her life
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that led her to this action.
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There's no way a cat does what she's
doing after being trained to a litter
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to suddenly.
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Forget. Something's wrong with her,
right? Something's up. When cats mark
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something, they're speaking.
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They're saying, I don't trust this
world. So what's the Katrina game plan?
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Since we moved in here, what I've been
doing, I lock them up, go in the garage.
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I know it's not nice. I just am so
frustrated with her. But she is out with
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access to the house during the day.
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We have now gotten to the place where
the only place she can be.
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is in this empty space in the garage so
i get it now i'm now i'm starting to get
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it we're gonna have to work on that like
today the family has just told me that
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they moved to this new house they
changed her routine completely lock her
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garage which of course put her into a
complete territorial tizzy are you done
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with katrina oh no no okay i'm i'm all
in for whatever we can do to help this
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cat i've seen the bond Between Katrina
and Zian, Katrina is a sweet,
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affectionate, wonderful cat who happens
to have this one terrible issue.
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If she still piss, she should be out of
the house.
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Anybody else over it? I want to have
nice things again, and I don't want to
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you know, looking at the cat with
disdain. This feels like the last stop.
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So, what do you want to do?
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What's next?
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We leave the back door open.
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Um, we've gotten to a bad place here.
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What you're talking about is feeding her
literally to the coyote. What breaks my
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heart is Zegan is now saying, let's just
leave the door open for her, which is
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an invitation for this cat to disappear.
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It breaks your heart because this child
has completely distanced himself
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emotionally. I got to get him back.
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We know that if you do leave the back
door open, she's going to be a snack for
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somebody.
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You know that.
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You went down to New Orleans.
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and saved this cat's life. Yes.
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However, this is no way to live.
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And what you're talking about is feeding
her literally to the coyote.
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Families resort to desperate measures
when dealing with a cat who's completely
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abandoned the litter box, and these guys
have gone a bit over the deep end.
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Katrina is now peeing all over the
house.
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And there's a lot of emotional dynamite
present in this room. So I do not want
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you ever to have to get to that place
where her life means less to you now
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it did the day you got her.
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I'm hoping I can help Zegan by showing
him the realities of what Katrina's
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through so that he reacts just like he
did as a five -year -old wanting to go
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down and help. He's going to have that
reaction to his own cat. That's where
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we've got to get. Here's what I want to
do. Yannick, Zegan, you guys come with
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me, and let's go explore the house. And
we can start right at this spot.
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So if we look around this place, the
only thing that says a cat lives here is
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this. Now, has she peed on this?
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Nope. Not to my knowledge. Clue number
one.
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Katrina is not peeing on her cat tree.
There's a pattern, and that's our job,
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to find out what that pattern is. So if
you guys come home from school, where do
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you expect to see the cat? In the
garage.
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Come on with me. Garage it is. Take me.
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We are now in what really is... Home.
Where's the litter box at?
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Right over there.
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Okay, so every litter box in the house
lives here?
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Yes. That's a bit of a problem.
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Litter boxes need to be spread out
because they're social markers for cats.
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They walk by litter boxes, they smell
themselves, and they go, ah, I own this.
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Katrina does not have that in this
house. They're all piled in a corner in
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garage. I want you to think about what
it feels like to be her.
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She's missing you guys.
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It's not really a home.
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That's a home. For a cat to be stripped
of territory, there's no crime worth in
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the feline world. She's now going all
over the house in part.
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Because the whole house is being shut
off to her.
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Okay.
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There's a lot of detective work. Ziga,
I'm going to make you sort of lead
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detective here, because when I get back
here next time, I need to have a more
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complete picture of who this cat is
through her action.
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Great. Number one, this is just an
ultraviolet light, the black light. This
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illuminates pee.
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See these stickers here?
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Every time you find a spot where there's
pee or poop...
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Whatever you guys clean up, I want to
stick her down.
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I'm looking forward to getting some
answers. Where is Katrina going and why?
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Here's the other thing, and I need this
from all you guys.
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Are you having flashbacks of grade
school right now? I want you to write
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story of Katrina, starting from when she
was born.
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And here's the catch.
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I want you to write it in the first
person.
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My name is Katrina.
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This is my story.
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Now comes the thing that I know you're
just going to love.
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Can't do the detective work if she's
locked up.
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Yes, I'm asking you to let her out more,
and I'm asking you to put litter boxes
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where you probably don't want them, but
just team up and give it one huge try.
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I'm here with you. We want Katrina to be
out and about. We have to have litter
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boxes in the house. They are not just
places to pee, but signposts that
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their entire existence.
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All right, thank you, Jackson. With the
homework I've given, things are going to
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get worse before they get better, but
they've got to give her one last chance.
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All right, take care, guys. Thank you.
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And that's going to test this family a
lot.
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Oh, my God.
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I'm coming back to meet Kirsten and Gus
for our second go -around here. Last
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time around, it was all biting all the
time.
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Oh, my God.
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Hopefully, she's got her head around the
problem now. I have no idea. I'm going
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to find out.
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Hey, good to see you.
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Hello.
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Before we get right to it, just really
quickly, how do you feel? A little worn
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out when I think about where we're at
and the challenge of Gus.
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Yeah, very, very common.
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Let's get through it.
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Before I leave, I'm going to play with
Gus here. We're getting in our morning
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exercise and our morning hunt.
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Good boy.
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Very good.
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The best part that came out of doing the
homework was that I was able to leave
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my home without a tax.
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Well, that was easy.
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And, boom, she's got no problems. She
can leave the house with no issues. So,
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great, we knocked one off a lift.
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Look who joined me on the couch.
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He's being such a good boy, and I'm just
rubbing his head. He's purring away.
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Very good.
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We got plenty of footage here to get
through.
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We have some very unfortunate news to
share.
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He snuggled up with me on the couch,
and, of course, he wanted to fight.
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Homework for the as -if orphan.
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I'm going to pretend that there's no
problem here.
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This is one situation where I'm like,
okay, Jackson, what should I do?
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I don't want him to attack me.
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I don't know what to do.
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He's like right in front of me.
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Oh, Carson.
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I'm going to fight.
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I'm going to fight.
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He snuggled up, and of course he wanted
to fight.
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I don't want him.
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I don't know what to do. He is like
right in front of me.
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Oh, Kirsten.
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He's going to bite.
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He's going to bite.
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Wow. There's no way to survive the
relationship that Kirsten has with Gus
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not have some degree of post -traumatic
stress.
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And Kirsten has it.
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If he looks at her in the eye, she
shrinks. That is now muscle memory.
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not even a choice anymore. And that's a
recipe for disaster.
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Okay, so this is the most.
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Important piece of footage that we got.
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He's on a computer.
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You're petting. He's getting worked up.
You can see this, right? See how he's
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following your hand? Ah, he follows you
because you're tense.
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Her body language is so defensive, so
reflexive. She's not in control of her
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reactions that he misinterprets. Are you
playing?
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No, no, I'm scared. You're scared. If
you're scared, I should be scared.
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He's going to bite.
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He's going to bite.
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Right? Look at him. Look at that body.
He's leaning forward. You're getting
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scared and you can see that. You can
even see it in your shoulders.
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He's waiting for you to make a move.
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He's basically hunting.
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That's where it goes often.
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There's a bunch that I want to go over
with you.
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Her fear is dictating his reaction.
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That is something that I can focus
Kirsten's energy on and say, This is
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can't do.
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It seems like when these things happen,
it's a perfect storm.
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Yeah. He's already getting riled, and
you know what that looks like, and you
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tent, and then it's game on. I just have
to kind of, like, let him own it, and I
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can pet him a little bit.
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What?
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Why? Because he's right here, and he's
very aggravated. He gets up over you,
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right, like this.
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You go like this.
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If you were a mouse on the floor, you'd
see him, and you'd be like... Oh, damn.
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And you would literally freeze. You make
one move, boom, he's on you.
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That's play in a very amped up way.
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I need Kirsten to start taking control
of her own environment. I need her to
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recognize when she's shrinking away.
You're getting more scared and you can
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that. You can even see it in your
shoulders and take the area. Do what I
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Ready? So you're sitting on the couch,
legs down.
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Ready? One, two, three.
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Oh, and then I... Stand up. Oh, okay.
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Okay, let's do it again. Okay, so wait,
you're Gus and I'm...
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Okay, I'm Gus. Ready? Please don't take
this personally. I'm like this.
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Now what are you going to do?
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No. That is what you do.
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Do what I just told you to do. Ready?
One more time.
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I already forgot. What am I supposed to
do?
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Stand up.
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And I'm Gus.
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And he'd fall off?
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And then he'd start looking around for
something else to do.
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Hey, control.
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You know what? We've got to work with
him. Let's get back inside. Come on.
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Now it's time to go back inside and
really start working with him.
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trying to define what it is that
Kirsten's seeing and what Gus is
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doing. We just left off at talking about
taking control.
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You want that chair. You want to sit in
that chair. If you get up and walk away,
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you're not in control of the
environment.
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Control is not domination, and she's got
to understand that. It just means she
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owns her space.
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Definitely. Literally, just pick him up
and put him down. Pick him up, put him
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down.
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Pick him up, put him down.
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Don't do that, that whole thing that
you're doing right now.
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No, stop it.
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Kristen, okay, wait.
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That was a perfect case in point. We are
talking very much about you taking
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control, and that's in a very matter -of
-fact way. Taking him off the chair is
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literally taking him off the chair.
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Gus, it's my chair.
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Okay. No pets, no cradling, no nothing.
Pick him up, put him down.
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It's the most matter -of -fact thing
that you can do with him.
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Now that we're talking about it, matter
of fact is the order of the day.
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My feeling is play energy and aggression
are the same package. And I think
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that's what I keep seeing with him. I
just want to be able to prove it. Every
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chance I get, I'm trying to push Gus's
challenge line. So I'm getting the kind
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of information that I need. And more
importantly, I get to mirror that
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information to Kirsten so that she can
start looking at him in a different way.
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Hi, Gus.
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I'm just going to put myself in harm's
way. If I know Gus, Jackson should be
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00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:27,340
really careful right now.
454
00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:30,690
There's a hand and there's a toy.
455
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:32,110
What do we like better?
456
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:33,310
What do we like better?
457
00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:36,910
What do we like better?
458
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:41,270
He's like, I choose that.
459
00:25:41,730 --> 00:25:42,689
That's a relief.
460
00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:44,350
Yeah. Right? We like that.
461
00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:47,970
If he was feeling really aggressive, he
could have just attacked me. One of the
462
00:25:47,970 --> 00:25:52,410
reasons I'm not getting beat up by Gus
is what I'm trying to teach Kirsten. I
463
00:25:52,410 --> 00:25:53,630
take control of the situation.
464
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,880
With Kirsten, her body language is so
defensive, so reflective. She's not in
465
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,180
control of her own reaction that he
misinterprets and bad things happen.
466
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:08,420
Kirsten's watching me. Now she can
problem solve. Before, she had no idea
467
00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:12,340
she was looking at. So there's a lot to
work on. Yeah. Let's get some homework
468
00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:13,309
going here.
469
00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:17,750
So much of what's going on here revolves
around your ability to take control.
470
00:26:17,950 --> 00:26:21,050
As long as you don't put the fear into
it, you can't claim this environment.
471
00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:27,630
I need you to become very aware of when
you are retreating, when you are worried
472
00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:32,250
about what he's doing and you start
closing off. Now, look, he's coming over
473
00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:34,270
you right now, coming to your lap.
474
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,180
Now, as long as you feel cool about it,
the second you don't, you change the
475
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,760
dynamic. Okay. And that's it. It's very
simple. That sounds great. Thank you,
476
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Jackson. All right. Hang in there, okay?
Thank you. Pressure's on Kirsten. If
477
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,280
she follows my plan and takes control of
her environment, good things are going
478
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:56,100
to happen. My worry is if she doesn't,
it won't. It really rests with her.
479
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,560
She's about to puke.
480
00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:03,240
Katrina cannot use the restroom.
481
00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:04,660
Ain't nobody.
482
00:27:10,570 --> 00:27:14,930
I have rarely seen one cat turn a family
upside down the way Katrina has.
483
00:27:15,150 --> 00:27:18,750
The last time I was here, I met a family
that had almost given up on their
484
00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:22,150
rescued cat Katrina because she had been
tagging the house pretty much non
485
00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:24,510
-stop. Katrina is scooping everywhere.
486
00:27:24,970 --> 00:27:28,050
I made some head waves encoding this
tricky puzzle.
487
00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:31,850
Then, hopefully today, more pieces will
have fallen into place.
488
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:33,430
Hi! How you been?
489
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,400
Come on in. Very well. Yourself? I'm
good, man. I'm good. All right.
490
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,320
Everything's hopefully a little more
sane. Since your visit, Katrina's come
491
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:42,919
of the garage.
492
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,660
We released the prisoner. That's
exciting. Yeah. In fact, Katrina is not
493
00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:49,140
in the garage at night anymore. That's
something worth celebrating.
494
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,680
Do you mind if I go and hang out with
her? Please. That's great. You know, the
495
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,360
one thing that I haven't done since
knowing this family is just spend some
496
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,920
-on -one time with Katrina by myself.
497
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,520
Where's Katrina?
498
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:01,840
Hello, my baby.
499
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:04,100
Come here, baby.
500
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,120
Come here.
501
00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:06,260
Have some food.
502
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:08,120
Very good. You want some more?
503
00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:13,060
This is such a good girl.
504
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:19,880
I got a friend, but she makes me feel
kind of emotional, and I don't know why.
505
00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:25,580
You know, sometimes you just can't
explain the bond that you create with an
506
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:29,600
animal, and all I can tell you is
there's something very special about
507
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:36,540
Maybe it's the fact that in this one,
was born into such horror, and then she
508
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:37,580
has to live through it again.
509
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800
You, my love, have got to turn your
charm back on.
510
00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:45,440
No more peeing.
511
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:49,900
You've got to get Zegan back on your
side, right? I know you can do this.
512
00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:53,560
Zegan's going to remember exactly why he
rescued you.
513
00:28:53,780 --> 00:28:57,400
You're such a powerful being. You could
tear an entire family apart.
514
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,040
And if you could tear an entire family
apart...
515
00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:03,630
you can put them right back together
again.
516
00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:06,350
So how about we do that?
517
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:08,830
Huh? How about we do that?
518
00:29:10,150 --> 00:29:13,150
There's an interior dialogue you have
when you're with an animal.
519
00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:17,370
And with Katrina, it was about you don't
have to be anxious. You've been through
520
00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:20,170
a lot in your life, and I've got to
believe she hears me.
521
00:29:21,130 --> 00:29:22,130
Okay.
522
00:29:22,410 --> 00:29:25,550
Let's talk about what's underneath all
this. I gave you guys an assignment the
523
00:29:25,550 --> 00:29:29,410
last time I was here to write the story
of Katrina in her own voice.
524
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,160
So, yeah, we didn't do this, did we?
525
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,240
I gave you guys an assignment the last
time I was here to write the story of
526
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,440
Katrina in her own voice.
527
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,220
So, yeah, we didn't do this, did we?
528
00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:52,280
You're not taking this assignment
seriously.
529
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,520
You've got to get yourself in her skin
if you want this to finally go away.
530
00:29:57,950 --> 00:30:01,810
I didn't give you this assignment just
for the heck of it. I gave it to you
531
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:06,210
because what's missing here is not that
you're going to tolerate the cat. I want
532
00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:08,830
you to bring her back into your life,
and I want her to be a family member
533
00:30:08,830 --> 00:30:10,550
again. And she's still not.
534
00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:15,390
Executing actions is not going to be
enough in this case. We have to heal the
535
00:30:15,390 --> 00:30:19,210
emotional reality here. What I'd like to
do with you guys is go through all the
536
00:30:19,210 --> 00:30:21,070
video homework that we have here.
537
00:30:22,659 --> 00:30:27,800
Move the cat boxes, the litter boxes,
and into the living area.
538
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,520
We're going to see if she starts using
them instead of everything else.
539
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,020
Everything else, yes.
540
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,880
So far, so good.
541
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,140
Keep going. We're investigating.
542
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,800
So she has not hit the stairs.
543
00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:44,680
Katrina has peed in unique room.
544
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:48,960
There's one, two, three spots.
545
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,360
All right, then.
546
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,840
What are we looking at in terms of how
many times she's peed outside the box
547
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,060
since the last time? Since your visit,
we've had three incidences, and that's
548
00:30:59,060 --> 00:31:00,060
all. Big difference.
549
00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:05,540
Nice. Katrina's come through. By opening
up the house to Katrina again, we just
550
00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:09,180
give her a sense of ownership she hasn't
had in a long time. By giving her
551
00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:13,220
litter boxes in as many places as
possible, we let her know that this is a
552
00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:18,060
place that belongs to you. She took it
and ran with it. So? I want to thank you
553
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:19,280
because you...
554
00:31:19,770 --> 00:31:24,530
Took a huge leap of faith. And Katrina
is paying you back. Now, I want to give
555
00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:27,190
you guys something. I think it's going
to be great for Katrina. And it's great
556
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:28,690
for Katrina. It's great for everybody.
557
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:29,890
Hold on one sec.
558
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:33,870
Okay. Wow.
559
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:35,350
New litter boxes.
560
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:37,030
Oh, no, no. We're not done.
561
00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:41,970
Santa Claus is coming to town. So, you
know, having better litter boxes is
562
00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:43,670
to help Katrina. There's no doubt about
it.
563
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,680
They actually don't seem all that upset
about bringing more litter boxes in the
564
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,900
house. That's a step in the right
direction.
565
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,660
This litter box is going to be the best
for Katrina. The Petco design hardly
566
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:54,900
even looks like a litter box.
567
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,860
There's the hood so that she can have
privacy, and I see the charcoal filter
568
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:04,500
also on top to catch the odors. I think
that the new fancy litter boxes with the
569
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,900
cover from Petco, it should cut back on
the odor. We are really excited.
570
00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:11,110
All of that is just wonderful. It's
going to help Katrina a lot.
571
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:14,590
Okay, so that's exciting. Yeah. Now that
we've got a whole bunch of litter
572
00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:17,330
boxes, step two, we're going to put all
these litter boxes out.
573
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:18,570
Let's do this.
574
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:22,350
Again, Yannick and I are going around
the house, putting down all these new
575
00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:25,670
litter boxes, filling them up with
litter, and it gives me a chance to
576
00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:27,270
the kids some more about litter box
behavior.
577
00:32:27,650 --> 00:32:31,230
Fill the bottom of this up, let's say
about two inches high. That's all you
578
00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:32,230
need, okay?
579
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:34,990
So there you go. That's perfect.
580
00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:37,250
The new cat that always smells like pine
tree.
581
00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:38,279
Yeah, it does.
582
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,900
And then I want you to take a little bit
of the litter from that other litter
583
00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:45,320
box and just sort of shake it a little
bit because by mixing part of the
584
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,120
actually used litter with the new stuff,
Katrina will smell it, say, hey, cool.
585
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:52,980
They start to use it. Yeah, there you
go. Now everything's good. All right.
586
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Look at this taking shape in here. I get
to explain what the process is. You can
587
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,280
see that he's picking up that
information. I love that.
588
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,640
Let's talk about the elephant in the
room, which is the room.
589
00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:07,060
There is no way psychologically that you
can walk through this room.
590
00:33:07,549 --> 00:33:11,730
without having a little bit of
resentment for this cat. I want you to
591
00:33:11,730 --> 00:33:14,790
piece of furniture, something. It's time
to move in, right?
592
00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:18,470
Hopefully, by the time I get back here
next time, I want to see an investment
593
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:21,150
furniture, an investment in the
relationship with Katrina.
594
00:33:21,570 --> 00:33:25,770
Now, I'm going to break up the family
again, if you guys don't mind, and what
595
00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:26,669
would like is you.
596
00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:28,050
It's not just about the again.
597
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:29,790
This is about Katrina.
598
00:33:30,270 --> 00:33:34,830
Katrina had an ally in the house, and
that ally is gone. That affects her.
599
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,280
stability, her confidence, and it
increases the chances that she's going
600
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,980
around the house. Here's the thing that
I'm worried about.
601
00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:44,320
Katrina, the reason she's peeing all
over the house is because this place
602
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,640
unsafe. You're the key to her feeling
safe again. I just want to see you guys
603
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,140
bond again. I want you to have your
friend back because the quality of her
604
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:56,360
depends on the friendship that you have
with her. You saved her life one time,
605
00:33:56,380 --> 00:33:57,620
man. You can do it again.
606
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Okay, I can do that. You down? Yeah.
607
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,460
Down. Give me that.
608
00:34:02,860 --> 00:34:07,440
Finally, I feel like I'm getting through
to him when he's realizing, oh, I have
609
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,440
a job here, and it's not just an action.
It's an emotion. I'm seeing that, and
610
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,360
hopefully the things are going to change
around here.
611
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:25,380
All right, so my last visit was Mikkel
and Jen and Yannick and Zigan and, of
612
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:29,980
course, Katrina the cat. Really great
stuff last time around, but I got to see
613
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,460
some furniture in this house first and
foremost.
614
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:36,850
I got to see this family is really
rallying around the cat that they saved
615
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:38,330
those years ago. Fingers crossed.
616
00:34:39,170 --> 00:34:40,170
Well, hey, mister.
617
00:34:40,409 --> 00:34:43,370
Good to see you. Good to see you, too.
And hello, man.
618
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:46,090
Well, well, well, well.
619
00:34:46,590 --> 00:34:48,610
Chairs and tables and everything, man.
620
00:34:48,870 --> 00:34:53,210
My dreams come true. These guys trust
Katrina enough to put furniture in the
621
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:57,450
living room again. It's a huge step. So,
I assume...
622
00:34:57,930 --> 00:35:01,890
Things are getting better around here, I
would hope, judging by furniture.
623
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:07,570
Things are more than better. Things are
thick.
624
00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:09,490
Thick? Thick.
625
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:11,550
Really? Yes.
626
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:16,090
Wow. She'd use the litter box every
time.
627
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,280
And that is night and day compared to
before.
628
00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:21,580
Well, for sure.
629
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,040
It's been really nice not to wake up
every morning and go, what did she tag
630
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,560
time? And we're even get a designer in
here and maybe, maybe think about
631
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:32,499
a rug.
632
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,020
I don't know. One step at a time.
633
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,160
But it's been nice. Yeah.
634
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,360
We're really happy that everything's
worked out well. We're more united.
635
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,960
less friction in the house because I'm
not constantly saying that damn cat.
636
00:35:45,740 --> 00:35:47,200
Hey, wait a second.
637
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,280
I see something that I want to look at.
638
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,460
Now. Wow, this is a big, long one. It's
dark. Where did everyone go? The things
639
00:35:56,460 --> 00:36:00,540
that were here, my reference points are
gone. And water. So much water.
640
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:02,720
Still, I don't see my home.
641
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Will I ever see it again?
642
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,840
That's enough for me.
643
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,600
Yeah.
644
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,080
That's what I was talking about. Thank
you.
645
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:17,230
Zegan's version of the story of Katrina
was so touching. Not only is he inside
646
00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:22,250
her thoughts and her heart and her
fears, her anxieties, but it also
647
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:26,750
his journey. So reading that in front of
a fireplace with a fire in it and
648
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:31,990
sitting on chairs and a couch, it lets
the whole family know in one moment that
649
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:33,250
this was a journey worth taking.
650
00:36:33,790 --> 00:36:36,250
Biggest surprise when I walked in here
with you.
651
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:38,650
You were so over.
652
00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:43,240
everything that had happened that you
gave up on her. So you got a friend
653
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:45,840
Yeah, the cat is now my friend.
654
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Yeah, that's amazing.
655
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:53,100
Really is. We are all very, very
thankful to Jackson for all of the help
656
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:57,540
he's provided us. It's just an amazing
story what she survived and what you
657
00:36:57,540 --> 00:36:58,540
had to survive.
658
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,420
Goodbye, Katrina. This journey was
really about a loving relationship
659
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:06,260
humans and animals and restoring that
again.
660
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:07,700
All right. Bye -bye.
661
00:37:08,830 --> 00:37:10,510
This is why I love this job so much.
662
00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:18,650
Kirsten and Gus.
663
00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:20,810
When we first met, she couldn't sleep.
664
00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:25,470
She couldn't leave the house. He was
attacking her all the time, seemingly
665
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:27,350
no reason. The woman was living in fear.
666
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:33,730
I'm really hoping that I walk in here
today and there's nothing to be afraid
667
00:37:33,730 --> 00:37:34,730
anymore.
668
00:37:37,610 --> 00:37:38,549
Hey, Jackson.
669
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:40,250
Hello. Hey, good to see you.
670
00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:42,710
Where's our boy?
671
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:43,870
Right there.
672
00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:51,990
Let me tell you what I see. Right now,
he's looking for trouble. What would you
673
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:52,990
do?
674
00:37:56,150 --> 00:38:01,770
Immediately walking into Kirsten's
place, Kirsten still had a lot of fear
675
00:38:01,770 --> 00:38:03,990
Gus, and I was concerned.
676
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Right now, he's looking for trouble.
What would you do?
677
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,060
Holler to keep on playing. There you go.
That's all that matters right now.
678
00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:20,340
Wow. Look at the triangle that he just
created with us, where he is a part of
679
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:25,200
this. He doesn't feel that need to own
the moment. I got a feeling that
680
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,140
everything's okay. I take one look at
Gus, a different vibe altogether.
681
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,240
Things seem to be taking a shape in
here, right? Well, since the last visit
682
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you were here, I feel totally different.
I think the most beneficial thing was
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realizing that the best way to help him
is to give him his space.
684
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,060
Like, that's been such a relief.
685
00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:45,880
Good, because that was a struggle for
you. Yeah.
686
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:51,600
Kirsten's aha moment was understanding
that Gus was an overstimulation cat.
687
00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:56,640
And when she realized that she could
disengage without sacrificing a loving
688
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,340
relationship, aha.
689
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,660
Gus Gus and I have been doing pretty
well. Now my legs are in place and I
690
00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:05,900
to get it. So I'm going to try to just
lift him up.
691
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:10,960
This is the moment I've been waiting
for. Listen, there's one thing that
692
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,940
can't fake with me, and that's fear.
693
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,440
Nice going.
694
00:39:20,740 --> 00:39:22,820
Look at you, man. That rocks.
695
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,098
Yay.
696
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,660
There's nothing in your voice.
697
00:39:25,950 --> 00:39:31,750
nor your body language that reflects
this. So hands up, face away, here, just
698
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:35,470
here. It feels really good to be able to
have more of an understanding of Gus
699
00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:39,690
and learn how we're going to be
successful in the future together.
700
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:45,710
We're both happy and can coexist without
any blood. Without blood, without guts.
701
00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:51,270
Speaking of that, since the last time I
was here, have there been any attacks?
702
00:39:51,710 --> 00:39:55,740
Nope. It tells you mission accomplished.
Right. The last time I saw Kirsten,
703
00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:59,380
there was definitely a lot of fear. She
was still scared of Gus. Now, she
704
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:02,280
doesn't have to be fearful anymore.
There's nothing to be afraid of.
705
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,580
There isn't one single thing that I'm
seeing from him right now that is
706
00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:13,660
danger. I feel 100 % okay walking away
from this home knowing that Kirsten is
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00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:19,380
safe and that Gus is happy. You, my
friend, have come a long, long way.
708
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,160
And I appreciate you very much.
709
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,340
He says, thanks for understanding me.
710
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:26,120
Yes, of course I do.
711
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080
And your mama does, too. And that's a
little more important.
712
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,200
Oh, my God. I have a crush on your cat
right now.
713
00:40:32,740 --> 00:40:34,400
Yeah. He definitely likes you.
714
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:45,700
The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My
Cat From Hell Facebook page for
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00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:47,600
gifts and much more.
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