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Woody reduces grown men to screaming.
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It's a cat!
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I'm afraid of Woody. A grown man scared
of a cat.
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She launched at him.
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She looked like the devil.
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It's either me or Woody.
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We don't have control of our apartment.
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Or our lives.
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We have two cats, Woody and Pirate.
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We just lost Velvet. The sense of having
Woody in the house really killed
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Velvet. Now Woody is beating up on our
other cat, Pirate.
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I'm not going to lose the second cat due
to Woody. I don't believe that animals
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are disposable.
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If Jackson can't fix this, Woody's going
to have to find a new home.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats, one -on -one, analyzing their
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behaviors and retraining them and their
guardians. When relationships are at an
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end, you can't always focus on the cat's
needs, right? We all have needs in this
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family. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. This is the last
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straw. Kills me. I'm their last hope. I
just love him so much. And I know he's
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got a good son.
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Cats have nine lives, but humans only
have one.
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Oh my gosh!
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I'm back in New York. I'm on my way
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to go see Teresa and Francesco and
Teresa's cat, Cootie.
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Pudi is out for blood, Francesco's blood
specifically.
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I mean, the guy just moved in, and he
won't live in fear, so he's ready to
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out again.
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Teresa loves her boyfriend, and she
loves her cat. Believe me, I'm used to
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hearing that one. That's where I come
in.
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Fingers crossed I can make it work for
these three.
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I'm Teresa.
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And I'm Francesco.
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Pudi's my cat. I've had her for five
years, and I love her. She's a little
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sweetie.
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Hey, Pudi.
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I just moved in here a few months ago
and Pootie scratches me, she attacks me,
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she corners me, she hisses at me, she
does everything to terrorize me.
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Pootie, no!
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My relationship with Pootie is mostly
good. She loves me, she's nice.
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I thought she would get used to me, but
it's been three months and she still
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hates me.
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The worst attack that I ever witnessed
was when she launched at him.
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She looked like the devil.
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You can see it in her eyes.
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Pootie reduces grown men to screaming.
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Yeah. You scream.
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I scream.
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It's a cat.
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Pootie, no.
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Just go, baby.
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I'm afraid of Pootie. A grown man scared
of a cat.
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That's crazy.
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Pootie, stop.
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I'm a professional singer and...
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If she continues to behave so
aggressively, how can I go on to her and
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at her disposal?
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I don't know if I can go on like this.
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I'm going to have to leave this place if
you don't leave my friend.
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Either me or Uri. I don't want to have
to choose between my boyfriend and my
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cat. She's the problem. I'm not the
problem.
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Sorry.
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Hey! Hi, Jason!
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I know that we have a aggressive cat,
and that's about it. So
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tell me what I don't know. Okay.
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Poodie, she absolutely hates Francesco.
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She's never nice to me. What does she do
to you? She haunts me.
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I never came into this door. I always go
through the other door because it's
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impossible for me. Oh, you actually have
changed the way you operate in order to
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avoid Putin.
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Francesco's telling me that he avoids
doorways for fear that she's going to do
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something. It tells me that we are way
down this road at this point in a
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poisonous relationship between human and
cat. I rescued her about five years
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ago, and she was a year and a half.
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She was dumped at the shelter, and they
didn't really have any information about
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her. Okay.
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Francesco, when did you first meet Pudi?
A year ago.
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I come over here, and she corners me
right there and attacks me viciously.
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The day that she attacked him, he didn't
come back for like six weeks.
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Wow.
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Have you guys talked about rehoming?
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Honestly, we can never even finish that
conversation.
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Yeah. If she attacked you again the way
she's attacked you those other two
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times, what happens to you?
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I might move out.
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Now, Francesco's made it really clear he
doesn't want to live here if he gets
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attacked one more time from Pootie. That
makes it do or die time right now.
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And what else is concerning you guys?
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I tour, I sing backup for Gloria Gaynor,
and so sometimes I'm gone. I kind of
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try to shove Pootie harassing Francesco
in the back of my mind. Sadly, the
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problem is all mine.
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Look at her right now.
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Oh, hi, Miss Bully.
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That's a trap.
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That's a trap?
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Oh, yeah.
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I got to buy into the trap.
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I'm just going to walk by her and see
what happens.
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When a cat exposes their belly, it
usually means they feel totally
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in their situation.
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But Francisco is quick to jump in and
say, no, no, no, that's a trap. But you
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know me.
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I'm going to go over there anyway.
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So if I want to walk by you, are you
going to let me?
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Pootie is very protective of that
hallway. I noticed that she went right
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shoes. She was focused on them. I need
to see if she defends other areas of the
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house and how she defends that space.
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So, hi. How are you?
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Wow. This is also the hot spot.
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You okay if I come on down here?
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Can I come up?
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I get it.
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Ow. It's okay.
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It's okay.
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Okay, okay, okay, okay.
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Look what you did.
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Are you happy with yourself?
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So that's what you see every single
time. Every time.
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Right there.
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I thought we'd do something different
now because you're kicking my butt. Now
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want to see if I can get her to reset
her system a little bit by getting her
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away from the hot spots.
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I needed her to come out and take a step
forward and hopefully, trust me, put
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this down right here.
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Look at how deep this choice is, right?
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Good girl.
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Good girl, Pootie.
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Very happy with you right now.
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Do you want some more?
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No, you don't get it if you do that.
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Pootie showed me that she can within
limits.
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demonstrates some trust, but she has a
real problem with hands and feet. And
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judging by her reactions to me and
Francesco specifically, she also has a
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problem with men.
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Okay. All right, bedroom. This is my
hiding space.
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She leaves me alone when I'm in bed.
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You know where I'm going to go now.
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I need to see this.
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Francesco, this is your bed. Show me
Francesco safe, tucked away.
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This is comfortable.
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It's kind of adorable.
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I mean, I'm confused. I don't know
whether to say, oh, this is cute, or,
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send him to therapy. If you're ready,
I'm going to start giving you guys some
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homework. Okay. Yeah. All right, good.
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This door stays open.
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That's number one.
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I don't want Francesco hiding from
Pootie. It sends a message of fear, and
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course cats can pick up on that. Judging
by her reactions to me and Francesco
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specifically, Pootie doesn't trust men.
That's for sure. If Francesco can just
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be more confident, there's a good chance
that Pootie is going to back off.
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Okay. So the next exercise we're going
to do is called eat, play, sing.
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Francesco, you're going to take care of
the eat and the play, and Teresa, you'll
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take care of the singing. The objective
is to pull her out from these hot spots.
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Then you give her a treat. Any other
time, you don't.
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And then they're singing. I want you to
make a recording of you singing. That
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way, nice association.
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Even when she's traveling, she's here
with Pudi knowing that there's that
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security blanket around her of your
voice. Okay? Okay.
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The last thing that you're going to do,
I want you to write the story of Pudi.
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because I need you to start investing in
what she's thinking. There's no way of
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knowing exactly what Pudi's life was
before Teresa adopted her, but I'm
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that something pretty traumatic happened
to her, and I want Francesco to think
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about what her life may have been like,
and if he can see things from her
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perspective, then maybe he's going to
see Pudi in a completely different
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I want you to put the puzzle back
together of who Pudi is. She's an over
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but behind every bully, what is there?
Fear.
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And it's why they lash out the way they
do. Okay, guys, I'm going to take off.
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It was great to meet you. You too. This
doesn't work out today.
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I don't know. I don't know what I would
do.
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Something major would have to change,
whether that be Pudi leaving, Francesco
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leaving. I don't want any of those
things to happen.
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Jackson is never not supposed to take
off.
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Hi, I'm here for my second visit with
Teresa Francesco and Teresa's cat,
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Last time I was here, we were dealing
with a pre -territorial cat, especially
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when it came to Francesco, who just
moved in here just a few months ago.
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Why, Pootie? Why you do that?
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And to make matters worse, Francesco was
showing a lot of fear around Pootie. I
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got a chance to watch their video
homework, and I did see Francesco doing
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feeding exercise, which looked like it
was going well.
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Now, in this exercise... Francesco's
going to be in charge of everything
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positive with Pudi, and that's food. And
at the same time, Teresa's singing, if
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Pudi can eat while that sound is
happening. Fantastic. Now, I also heard
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potential attack that happened just a
few days after I left.
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Pudi, no.
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That worries me because attacks like
this means Francesco might leave. He's
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it before. He'll do it again.
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All right, Jackson.
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All right, buddy. Good.
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Good, man.
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I got a chance to watch a video homework
before I came over here. One thing that
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really concerned me was an incident with
you in the bathroom.
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Francesco, you were totally trapped in
there.
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Teresa, your reaction was pretty
heightened.
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Have we had any more incidents like that
since then?
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Since then, everything has been going
pretty
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well. I realize that I'm bigger than
her.
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It's amazing that Francesco is operating
with a lower sense of fear. Remember,
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he transmits that fear to the cat. She
bounces it back to him, and it's a
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dynamic that can't be sustained around
here. I think the thing that's had the
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most impact was probably Francesco
feeding her and playing with her.
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So now she expects good things to
happen. Yeah. So anything I'm missing
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Well, there's one thing.
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We're going to be moving downstairs in
the next couple of weeks.
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Wow. Okay. These guys tell me they're
moving in a couple of weeks.
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Do you have any idea how bad that shakes
this whole thing up?
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Territory is absolutely everything to
cats. These guys are going to have to
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the things that they're not throwing
away.
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Blankets and sheets and beds and
anything that's a scent soaker, these
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to get it downstairs so when they move
in a couple of weeks... She'll go, oh, I
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recognize this. This is home as well. Do
you feel like things can still
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backslide here? You know, I still don't
trust her completely.
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I still have to watch my back.
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If you've got to watch your back, then
we don't have a comfortable home, and
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we've got to change that.
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Hi, my baby girl.
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Hello, my baby girl.
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It's okay.
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Pudi lashed out at me because we know
that she has a problem with men and I'm
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also sitting in that sort of hot zone.
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The thing that I did with Pudi that was
uber important was nothing. She wasn't
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going to get the result that she
expected.
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And when she didn't get that result, she
started to settle in. She started to
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move on. This is the kind of thing I
expect from Francesco. This is something
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that she learned a long time ago that's
worked up until now.
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It's important for me to tell her and
for Francesco to tell her it won't work
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anymore. So last time I was here, I
asked you to write the story of Pudi.
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So what you got for me? Hello, my name
is Pudi. My parents were young, and
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unfortunately, they were always
fighting. I tried to protect her, but...
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He would kick me. Finally, my mom left
him and that's when he decided to drop
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outside. That was the best thing that
happened to me because I found a new mom
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that loves me so much and takes a really
good care of me. She has a new
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boyfriend. He looks like he loves us,
but unfortunately, I'm still scared and
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can't trust him 100%. To hear
Francesco...
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read the story. It was actually a really
powerful moment.
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So I knew that that was a real turning
point for their relationship.
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You got it.
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That's wonderful, man. And that's
exactly what I was hoping you were going
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find. Now, obviously, we're never going
to know if Francesco's story of Pootie
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is true, but that doesn't matter at all.
This exercise was all about Francesco
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looking at Pootie through her eyes. But
I'm still a little concerned about
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Francesco's ability to walk by Pootie in
that hallway. So I want to try and
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exercise the Francesco walking into the
apartment so I can help these two
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coexist without bloodshed. Wow, she's
right by the door.
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Look at that.
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Camped out there. That makes it tough
for him to even come in the door.
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So obviously the hallway is a hot spot.
That could be trouble, and these guys
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have to recognize it now.
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The only other thing that I'm worried
about right now is Pootie. She's still
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guarding. She's still got her hackles
up, especially when it came to me.
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And I'm worried about that because I'm
worried about any man who walks in that
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house at this point. Keep walking.
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Okay, do it again. This time around,
when you walk in the door, no stop.
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What happened when Francesco froze is
that Pudi attacked.
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This is how it happens every time, and
it always ends badly. All she needs is
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leadership. She needs to know that he
knows where he's going, and then she
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too.
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Okay, Pudi, go ahead and walk.
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Very nice.
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Now you're going to have to walk by her
to get out. Just keep walking. Now, it's
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the third time around. I'm hoping that
at this point, Pudi's desensitized to
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this repetition, but after all...
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You've seen me work before. Anything can
happen.
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Come on.
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In you go.
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Hey, Pootie.
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Just walk.
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And there we have it.
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Good job, baby. That was really nice.
Yeah, it was good. Yeah. I expect by the
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time I get back here the next time, you
should be able to just walk in the door.
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Pootie ended the exercise for us. She
basically said, I'm not getting what I
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want. I'm not getting what I'm used to.
And that's for me?
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was that celebratory moment. That's
telling us she's clearing that
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hump. Ready for some homework?
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Francesca, I want you to continue this
work with her that we did today, which
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open the door, she greets you, and you
just walk by.
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Second thing, because you're moving, we
really got to help her adjust to her new
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space. So here's what I want you to do.
I want you to put what are called scent
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soakers all around your apartment.
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I've got something for you. Hold on one
second. I'll be right back.
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Because these guys are moving and
because we're dealing with a really
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territorially insecure cat, I had a big
surprise to help them out.
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Oh, my God.
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I'll have you move on down that way for
me here. So this is the Catris system.
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The Catris system is this interlocking
system of scratcher that can go
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It's got all kinds of fun shapes.
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So I brought these guys the Catris
system. It's made out of corrugated
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cardboard. It's a born scent soaker.
Cats use scent to mark an area.
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Scratching is a scent and visual marker.
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These things are integral for cats to
establish territorial security for
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themselves. Make sure that Pudi just
gets her scent all over it so that her
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apartment is already home.
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Encourage her to sleep on the bed with
you guys. Encourage her to come up on
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couch when you're watching TV.
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Encourage her to share these scents,
those places with you so she can co -own
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the territory. She really wants nothing
more than that. I'm heading back to my
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life, folks, and I will talk to you in a
couple of weeks. Thank you. All right,
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take care, guys. Bye -bye.
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I worked really hard, but I'm afraid if
she goes back to the puri we know, I
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will lose hope. This is the last chance
that I'm giving her.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Jackson, I heard you mention that indoor
cats live longer than outdoor cats. So
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how can I transition my outdoor cat to
an indoor cat?
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The answer, right after the break.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Jackson, I heard you mention that indoor
cats live longer than outdoor cats. So
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how can I transition my outdoor cat to
an indoor cat?
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First of all, I'm not a big fan of
letting cats go indoor -outdoor because
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just too dangerous. Now, it's going to
be a little tough for a couple of weeks.
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Your cat's going to want out. You're
going to have to say no. The thing that
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have to do is give them a yes for that
no.
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Give them a lot of extra play time. Make
sure that you're feeding them on a
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schedule. Plus, don't forget the
benefits of cat TV, hanging a bird
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outside the window. You want to keep
your cats busy, and you see more of your
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cat.
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I'm here for my final visit with
Francesco, Teresa, and Teresa's cat,
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Now, the last time I was here, Things
have gotten a lot better, but we're
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at a place right now where one slip -up
and Francesco is going to move out of
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this place.
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I'm going to have to leave this place if
you don't leave my friend.
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Why? Why, booty?
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I got a chance to watch their video
homework, and I saw that Francesco was
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the exercise in the hallway in the front
door, and I'm just hoping that he
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hasn't gotten attacked since then. I
heard these guys moved into their new
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apartment, which is great, downstairs,
and hopefully it's been successful, but
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have no idea.
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Hey, how are you? It's good to see you
again. You too.
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How you been? Been good.
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Look at this.
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Hey, Jackson.
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How are you? Look at this, man.
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Yeah. Oh.
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I walk into Teresa and Francesco's new
space, and I've got to tell you what,
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man, that place was amazing.
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The energy was so wonderful in there,
and they even made a special room for
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Pootie filled with fence stokers, like
my base camp and tunnel combination and
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comfy cabana bed. And that's going to
speak volumes if Pootie is taken to the
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space. Let's just cut to the chase.
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The past couple weeks, has there been
any violence whatsoever?
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Not at all.
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Nothing at all. She actually waits for
me to get home, and... And what? When I
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get home, she comes to me, and she wants
to play with me, and I feed her.
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Get out of here. You mean, like, you can
walk in here, and you guys are buddies?
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Yeah. Really?
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Yeah, no more fear.
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Francesco says he doesn't have...
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And he feared the unknown with Pudi. And
I think that that was what was
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triggering everything.
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I really believe that Francesco writing
the story of Pudi, that's what's changed
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this relationship on both the human and
animal end.
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Do you feel a bond happening between the
two of them? Absolutely. I mean, we
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really feel like a little family.
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And to the point where if we wake up and
Pudi's not in the bed, Francesco's
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like, where's Pudi?
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Why isn't Pudi here?
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Pudi!
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I love it. Totally cute.
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Fantastic. Things are going really well
between me and Pudi. I always look for
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Pudi because I want to be.
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Actually closer to her, not away from
her. So the move down here, how long has
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she actually been down here? Actually,
the first night was yesterday.
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Whoa. Yeah. Are you kidding me? You
know, it's a lot of the scent soaking
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things. So she's got her things kind of
spread around the apartment. It's really
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helped with our move down here.
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Good. Look at how happy you are. That's
cool. It's been amazing.
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All right, everything seems great, and I
just saw Pudi go into the back room.
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Let's go in there. Let's follow her.
Let's check it out in there. Come on.
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Before I leave here today, I wanted to
see that they had incorporated all of
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things that I had taught them in order
for me to feel there will be no moving
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backwards in the relationship between
Francesco and Pudi.
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There's our girl.
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Okay, I'll settle in.
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It's just so nice in here, and I'm just
watching her take this space.
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The real test is here, has she taken to
this room in a calm, confident way, or
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is she going to guard it the way she
guarded this hallway in the old place?
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If you could just take it without
overowning it, then we're all good. Now,
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Francesco, I want to see you lead Pootie
up onto the scent soakers.
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Pootie? Yeah?
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Go on up there, Pootie.
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There it is.
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Once she locates it, like, what the?
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That was amazing.
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Excuse me.
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He just picked up the cat. You've never
done that before?
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No. The first day that I met Francesco,
he was cowering under the covers. Today,
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he's picking her up. I mean, that blows
my mind.
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God, I'm just so psyched right now.
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I picked Pudi up, and I actually didn't
think about it. It came natural. It
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shocked everybody. I was shocked, too,
after I did it. But my confidence went
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from zero to 100.
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Jackson. Thank you so much. You brought
Pudi and Francesco together, and I
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didn't even know that was possible.
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It's my pleasure.
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To have Francesco and Pudi get along the
way that they do feels amazing.
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It's a sigh of relief.
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And if you guys need anything from me,
just give me a holler. Because there was
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a lot of tension in the house all the
time. The first time he was attacked, he
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left for six weeks.
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And it's nice to know that I don't
really have to worry about that anymore.
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It's a relief.
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I can't wait to be home with my ladies.
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Thank you.
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Take care of yourself, Jackson.
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Goodbye, Pootie, my love. Take care.
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I thought I did a good thing by rescuing
this cat, but never did I think it
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would lead to as much trouble as it did.
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We have two cats, Woody and Pirate. We
had another cat, Velvet.
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The stress of having Woody in the house
really killed Velvet.
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So now Woody just wants to go after
Pirate. I'm not going to lose the second
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due to Woody.
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I'm here in New York City.
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I'm on my way to go see Sandy and Phil
and their two cats, Woody and Pirate.
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These guys had a third cat, Velvet, but
they're absolutely convinced that the
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stress from Woody's constant attacks
helped kill Velvet.
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This was Phil's first cat.
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And they're also convinced that that
same stress is going to kill Pirate.
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Now they're ready to rehome Woody, so
I'm going to head over there right now
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before it's too late.
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I'm Sandy. I'm Phil.
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We've been married ten years.
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And we have two cats.
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Byron, who has one eye, is 10 years old.
And Woody's two years old now. I found
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Woody at a liquor store. He was a
kitten.
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And I picked him up, brought him back
home. Thought I did a good thing by
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rescuing the cat.
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But never did I think it would lead to
as much trouble as it did.
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We had another cat, Velvet.
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Velvet ended up becoming a target for
Woody. And there'd be a horrific cat
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fight.
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I started to notice Velvet stopped
eating. And I think that the stress
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Velvet's passing.
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She was Bill's first cat.
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If I had a bad day, I'm going to get
upset.
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Ah, I got a blow.
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He can't see pictures of Velvet still.
It's still fresh.
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I never thought the stress level would
get to this point. We're not getting a
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lot of sleep.
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Our relationship is definitely not good.
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So now that Velvet's gone, Woody just
gets aggressive and he wants to go after
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Pirate. I'm really worried about Pirate
because he only has one eye and Woody
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knows he can't see them coming.
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Our whole lives are spent keeping them
totally separate from each other. I'm
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going to lose a second cat due to Woody.
I don't believe that animals are
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disposable. I want to get my home back.
If Jackson can't fix it, Woody's going
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to have to find a new home.
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Hey. Hi. I'm Jackson. I'm Sandy. Come
in.
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Thank you so much. How you doing? I'm
Jackson. I'm Phil.
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I know I'm here to help Woody and
Pirate. Fill me in.
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Well, we have two cats.
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We've had Pirate for ten years.
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Okay.
454
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,620
What are you doing, buddy?
455
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,620
That's Woody, our problem child.
456
00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:35,920
We rescued him maybe a year and a half
ago. He's two years old. Okay. We had
457
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,700
another cat, Velvet, who was our dear
companion, and Woody and Velvet would
458
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:41,700
start fighting.
459
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:46,050
Then Velvet got sick and passed away.
She all of a sudden didn't go to the
460
00:25:46,050 --> 00:25:47,790
bathroom. Stopped eating for two days.
461
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:50,810
I believe the stress from Woody caused
that.
462
00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:52,090
She got sick because of Woody?
463
00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:56,490
I think the stress. Well, yeah, I have a
tough time when I talk about her. I'm
464
00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:57,790
sorry. No, I know. Believe me.
465
00:25:58,030 --> 00:25:59,850
Believe me, I know. She was a good
friend.
466
00:26:00,050 --> 00:26:01,510
I'm so sorry to hear that.
467
00:26:01,710 --> 00:26:05,170
I felt I did her an injustice by
bringing him home.
468
00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:08,670
Now that Velvet is gone, Woody is.
469
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,180
Turn its attention to Pirate. So your
fears now are?
470
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:15,820
That Woody is going to attack Pirate or
kill him.
471
00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:21,080
Wow. We have a big decision to make
because we can't keep living like this
472
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,820
anymore. What? That next step is finding
a nice home for Woody.
473
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:29,400
Don't get me wrong. I empathize with
Sandy and Phil in regards to the death
474
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,740
their cat, Velvet. But I don't believe
in any way, shape, or form that Woody
475
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:37,380
killed Velvet with stress. It's so much
to put on this one cat.
476
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,220
So what is on the other side of this
door?
477
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,660
So right now, Pirate.
478
00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:42,900
It's my office where I work all day.
479
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,040
Let's spend time with Pirate. Let's go
on in there. So I walk into the office,
480
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,820
and there's Pirate. He's just chilling
in his cat tree.
481
00:26:49,210 --> 00:26:53,230
Not stressed out looking, not like he's
hiding or anything, very present. This
482
00:26:53,230 --> 00:26:55,550
is where Pirate spends most of his time?
483
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:57,150
Yes, and the bedroom.
484
00:26:57,370 --> 00:26:58,570
I want to see both these cats together.
485
00:26:58,890 --> 00:27:03,090
If you wouldn't mind just opening the
door, and then when something happens,
486
00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:06,770
it's going to happen. Okay. Okay. I'm a
little apprehensive about letting Woody
487
00:27:06,770 --> 00:27:09,330
in that room because of what happened
with Velvet.
488
00:27:09,530 --> 00:27:10,530
Woody? Woody?
489
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:17,090
He's cool. The most important thing that
you two can do right now is breathe.
490
00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:20,590
Woody picks up your stress.
491
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:24,390
So we're just going to let him wander
around, and that means, Phil, you don't
492
00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:28,590
have to stare at him. I'm afraid he is
going to take off after Pirate.
493
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:31,310
He just got eye contact. Oh, yeah.
494
00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:32,950
Okay, here we go.
495
00:27:33,290 --> 00:27:35,030
Can you guys do me a favor and sit on
the couch?
496
00:27:35,290 --> 00:27:39,570
Yeah. I actually want to get him closer
to Pirate. Based on what Sandy and Phil
497
00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:43,090
have been telling me, I want to push
that challenge line so I could see what
498
00:27:43,090 --> 00:27:44,090
was really like.
499
00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:45,370
So Woody's on the move.
500
00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:46,610
Now I'm nervous.
501
00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:56,790
All right, guys, do me a favor.
502
00:27:57,150 --> 00:28:00,010
Relax. He just walked away. Nothing bad
happened.
503
00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:01,450
Woody's not hunting.
504
00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:04,990
The problem is, Phil and Sandy start to
spin out of control.
505
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:08,930
They seem more scared than Woody and
Pirate. They've kept these two cats
506
00:28:08,930 --> 00:28:14,110
for so long out of fear that they just
don't know each other. Now, I want to
507
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,650
these guys interacting a little bit
more, so what I'm going to do is take it
508
00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:19,030
from here. Okay. Give me a few minutes
with them, okay? All right.
509
00:28:21,850 --> 00:28:22,850
There's my boy.
510
00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:24,540
Go on out, buddy.
511
00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:29,280
Instantly, I send Phil and Sandy out of
the room. The energy drops by like 20
512
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,760
degrees. Hi.
513
00:28:32,380 --> 00:28:34,880
Are you taking a nap right now?
514
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:36,900
Woody.
515
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,500
Woody falling asleep tells me that his
prime directive in life is not killing
516
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:44,700
Pirate. Okay.
517
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:51,180
The closest that he's come to going
after Pirate was when you guys were in
518
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:56,250
before. A lot of what's going on here is
based on worst -case scenarios because
519
00:28:56,250 --> 00:29:00,410
you've lived the worst -case scenario
before. Different cat, though. You know,
520
00:29:00,470 --> 00:29:01,470
pirate is not velvet.
521
00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:05,570
And we can't put the burden completely
on Woody.
522
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:10,810
So first bit of homework is wear this
guy out, okay?
523
00:29:11,210 --> 00:29:16,470
I need him to play until he's panting
because he needs an outlet for that
524
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:19,630
energy. Now, if you see something
happening you don't like, use this laser
525
00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:20,830
pointer to distract Woody.
526
00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:24,960
The second thing I want to do is the
site swapping. I want to make sure the
527
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,340
pirate gets equal time out in the rest
of the house. It's going to help build
528
00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:29,340
his confidence.
529
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,220
Next, I want you to get a screen. You'll
attach a curtain to it, then secure it
530
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:34,480
to the wall so there's no wiggle room.
531
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:37,120
And I want you to feed meals at the
screen.
532
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,380
And after these guys eat well on either
side, we're going to start raising that
533
00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:43,620
screen up until they have confidence
around each other, okay?
534
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,260
Once the cats tell us they can feed on
either side of the screen door without
535
00:29:47,260 --> 00:29:51,460
chaos, that means they're starting to
associate one another with good things
536
00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:52,399
like food.
537
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:59,340
I want you to start gathering feelings
of regret and anger towards Woody,
538
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,800
whatever it is. I want you to get a
blackboard, and I just want you to,
539
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,040
time you think of something, write it
down.
540
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,780
Sandy and Phil are wonderful people, but
their energy infects their animals.
541
00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:16,770
And it's so important that Phil and
Sandy know this.
542
00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:20,870
Okay, guys, so I'm going to take off.
It's important for Jackson to fix this
543
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:24,050
because I'm not going to have Pirate
living in fear.
544
00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:27,770
Our only option, if this doesn't work,
would be to rehome Woody.
545
00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:41,950
All right, I'm here for my second visit
with Sandy and Phil, their cats Pirate
546
00:30:41,950 --> 00:30:42,909
and Woody.
547
00:30:42,910 --> 00:30:47,270
And the last time I was here, these guys
were blaming the death of their cat
548
00:30:47,270 --> 00:30:51,410
Velvet on Woody. And they were worried
because of what happened that Woody was
549
00:30:51,410 --> 00:30:52,450
going to kill Pirate, too.
550
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:56,150
Now, I got a chance to watch Sandy and
Phil's video homework, and I got to tell
551
00:30:56,150 --> 00:31:00,230
you, there wasn't much that I liked. I
got to see these guys trying the
552
00:31:00,230 --> 00:31:03,050
feeding at that screen, and what a mess.
553
00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:06,850
I mean, instead of raising the curtain
slowly over time, they just opened it.
554
00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:10,580
This is not good, because if these cats
can see each other, they're still at
555
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:11,580
potential for violence.
556
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,840
And part runs.
557
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,020
I also saw Sandy and Phil writing down
their feelings.
558
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Resentment and anger. So hopefully we
can get past the grieving process of
559
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,580
Velvet and move forward.
560
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,880
How are you, Phil? Hopefully today when
I walk in, the violence is down just a
561
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,720
little bit, because if it's not, I'm
telling you, Woody's days here are
562
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,920
numbered. So, guys, tell me, it's been a
few weeks here? I'm almost afraid to
563
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,400
ask, but how's it going?
564
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Woody and Pirate had an encounter that
really freaked Pirate out. Woody got in
565
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:49,220
the bedroom, Pirate was on the bed, and
Pirate hissed and Woody lunged at
566
00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:50,220
him.
567
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,740
Was it a bad fight?
568
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:57,720
It could have been if we didn't break it
up. The lunge happened. Did contact
569
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,720
happen?
570
00:31:59,420 --> 00:32:02,720
No. When Woody attacked Velvet, it was
a...
571
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,340
lock rolling around kind of fighting.
Yeah, but Woody and Pirate haven't
572
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:08,340
had many of those.
573
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520
No, these two haven't had.
574
00:32:10,820 --> 00:32:11,820
Say that again.
575
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:14,300
What? They haven't had any. Any.
576
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Not one.
577
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,540
No. You know, the first time I came
here, I was hearing about fight. No,
578
00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:25,600
no fight. There's just threats and
lunges. They see things that haven't
579
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,180
happened because they haven't completed
this grieving process over their old cat
580
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:33,590
Velvet. So have you been playing with
Woody? Yeah, with the laser toy.
581
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:38,230
Wait, wait, you're talking about the
laser now. Yeah. The laser pointer has a
582
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:41,810
function. That function is basically to
lead him, not to play him down.
583
00:32:42,010 --> 00:32:45,610
The thing is, if he can't catch it, he's
always going to be frustrated.
584
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:49,230
I told him to only use the laser pointer
as a distraction tool.
585
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:53,550
This is our first line of defense, so he
doesn't seek the same attention from
586
00:32:53,550 --> 00:32:57,470
Pirate. I'm just looking at you. You're
halfway out the door right now. He is.
587
00:32:57,570 --> 00:32:58,399
I'm gone.
588
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:01,160
Let me just ask you point blank, do you
want to rehome him?
589
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Just,
590
00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:04,360
do you want him gone?
591
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,200
You know, I'm ready to cut him loose.
592
00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:09,660
How are you feeling about that?
593
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,040
I want this to work. It's not fun for me
to walk into a home on the second visit
594
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,220
and hear a guardian say they're done. We
got a lot of work to do yet, and I
595
00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:21,940
don't feel like Phil's down for it.
We're going to...
596
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:26,020
actually do the feeding exercise because
I want to be able to just lead you guys
597
00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:28,320
through exactly how I'd like it to look
every day.
598
00:33:28,540 --> 00:33:33,460
Okay, so I'm going to go in with Pirate.
Now, in the meantime, let's just close
599
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:34,460
this up.
600
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,380
Now, I walk up to the screen and I got
to tell you, it's a wreck.
601
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:40,680
The curtain that's hanging in front of
it is only halfway together.
602
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:45,200
The pressure is still on right now. I
can't even express it to you. So,
603
00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:48,320
basically, all we're going to do, we're
going to close this curtain.
604
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,560
Let's just make sure it goes all the way
down.
605
00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:52,830
Because that's what I was missing on the
homework.
606
00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:55,250
Yeah. Here's the thing that I'm going to
have you do.
607
00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:58,510
Use the laser pointer to distract him
from the curtain.
608
00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:03,290
Okay. I just want him to be able to eat
and walk away and not even really pay
609
00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:04,510
any attention to the screen.
610
00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:07,090
Okay. Good boy.
611
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:09,730
Okay, guys, whenever you're ready, he's
ready.
612
00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:11,810
Okay. We're bringing the plate over.
613
00:34:12,010 --> 00:34:13,830
Okay. Just pick them up. Yeah.
614
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:16,870
Pirate is at the gate eating.
615
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:20,650
He's kind of sniffing. He's looking at
the fence.
616
00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:22,370
Try his other food.
617
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:26,630
Oh, boy. Guys, no, no, no. Use the laser
pointer to distract him from the
618
00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:29,090
curtain. We're trying to see if Woody is
going to like this food.
619
00:34:30,170 --> 00:34:33,830
Now, let's see. That's why this is not
going to work. Right here.
620
00:34:35,670 --> 00:34:36,929
Woody just took off.
621
00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:38,310
Oh, here he comes.
622
00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:42,810
He's up to that food. Okay, good. I'm
confused by so much right now.
623
00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:47,130
I can't see what's going on on the other
side of that curtain, but it sounds
624
00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:49,330
pretty chaotic. I mean, these guys
sound...
625
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:52,250
Like they just don't have a grip on the
exercise or on Woody.
626
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:53,730
Oh, here he comes.
627
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:58,210
We're falling apart here. I wanted you
to distract him.
628
00:34:58,450 --> 00:35:00,050
He loves to be in the curtain.
629
00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:02,290
And this is exactly what I don't want.
630
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:04,770
So, cut it.
631
00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:07,770
The exercise showed me a few things.
632
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:13,370
Number one, Pirate's okay. Number two,
Phil and Sandy are just not holding it
633
00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:18,770
together. And that concerns me. Number
three, this screen has got to go.
634
00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:20,150
So here's what I want to do.
635
00:35:20,830 --> 00:35:21,910
Strike the screen.
636
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:25,990
Okay. I want to feed on opposite side of
that door to your office where Pirate
637
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:26,919
likes to hang out.
638
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160
I want them to go back to a simple other
side of the door feeding.
639
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,720
And if they eat and walk away, we're
great. And then we'll start introducing
640
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:34,840
visual contact.
641
00:35:35,140 --> 00:35:38,920
Number two is pretty much everything I
assigned you last time, from sight
642
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,240
swapping to play with Woody, which is so
important, to establishing Pirate's
643
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,000
mojo. One of the worst mistakes that
Sandy and Phil made was assuming that
644
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Pirate was weak and old and couldn't
take care of himself.
645
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:54,440
It doesn't matter how old you are. It
doesn't matter if you only got one eye.
646
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:58,880
Cats don't see themselves as
handicapped. They don't say, poor me,
647
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,038
I'm old.
648
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,120
Final piece of your homework, most
important piece of your homework, is our
649
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:10,740
blackboard. Yes. Unless we can release
Velvet from the equation, we have to
650
00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,800
decide the next time I'm here where
Woody's going to go.
651
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,220
Sandy and Phil have just a few weeks to
decide whether it's more important...
652
00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:23,540
to live with the cats that are in their
lives now, or to live with the trauma
653
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:25,300
that they experienced in the past.
654
00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:28,540
Great. Good to see you again, man. Thank
you. Good to see you. Lots of things
655
00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:32,080
can change, but only if the humans allow
themselves to change first.
656
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,320
Bye -bye.
657
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,300
Hopefully this will work. I really hope
we can be one happy family together. If
658
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,580
this doesn't work, our only option would
be to rehome Woody.
659
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,900
So I'm here for my third and final visit
with Sandy and Phil and their cats,
660
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,180
Woody and Pirate. The last time I was
here, Phil was done. He was ready to
661
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:02,680
rehome that cat. You know, I'm ready to
cut him loose.
662
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,380
We also tried the feeding exercise. Let
me tell you something, that was 100 %
663
00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:11,460
disaster. However, I watched their video
homework. I saw both cats eating, being
664
00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:15,900
able to see each other fully, and not
backing down from the plate and not
665
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:19,560
away from the plate. I also saw a lot of
play going on. Hopefully that's taking
666
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,340
some of that adolescent crazy energy out
of Woody and bringing Pirate's
667
00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:24,279
confidence up.
668
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,700
Walking in today, I'm wondering if the
blackboard was wiped clean since my last
669
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:29,700
visit. Resentment and anger.
670
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,380
Hi, Jackson. Hi, Sandy. How are you?
Come on in. I need these guys to let
671
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:37,040
go. Otherwise, Woody could be rehomed.
672
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Without further ado, tell me, has there
been any violence, anything?
673
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:47,950
No. Good.
674
00:37:48,430 --> 00:37:53,090
Okay, let's talk about it. One time he
ran into the bedroom, and Pirate was
675
00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:57,250
under the bed, and we managed to get him
out with some treats and a toy.
676
00:37:57,490 --> 00:38:02,470
Fantastic. And I had to take a step back
and realize that Woody will never be
677
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:07,210
Velvet. Woody is my cat, and he's got
his own great traits, you know. In his
678
00:38:07,210 --> 00:38:08,770
way, he does a pretty nice job.
679
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Wow. I don't hold Woody accountable for
Velvet's death.
680
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,680
It is just probably an unfortunate
situation that happened. So it was quite
681
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680
eye -opening experience.
682
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,040
One of the biggest things we were
working on was Pirate's confidence, but
683
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,780
goes both ways. Is Pirate more
confident? Are you guys more confident
684
00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:30,820
I think both.
685
00:38:31,049 --> 00:38:35,610
Wow. The hardest part about the homework
was really getting over baby and
686
00:38:35,610 --> 00:38:38,050
pirate, but I realized he can stand on
his own feet.
687
00:38:38,290 --> 00:38:40,750
He's been playing a lot more than he's
ever played before.
688
00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:42,930
He wants to be out more. All the time.
689
00:38:43,170 --> 00:38:47,090
Right, which is really great. Now that
they're challenging pirate, a cat is
690
00:38:47,090 --> 00:38:51,010
actually finding his mojo. It doesn't
matter how old you are. It doesn't
691
00:38:51,010 --> 00:38:52,090
if you only got one eye.
692
00:38:52,350 --> 00:38:56,830
There's a mojo to be had. In order for
these guys to have that relationship, to
693
00:38:56,830 --> 00:38:59,290
move past that point, I need to see
them...
694
00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:02,750
in the same room at the same time
without something breaking out.
695
00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:05,270
Are you good with that?
696
00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:06,530
They're ready.
697
00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:08,110
Hopefully we'll be ready.
698
00:39:08,530 --> 00:39:10,490
That's what I was wondering. How ready
are you?
699
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:11,488
I'm ready.
700
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:12,490
Nervous, but ready.
701
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:15,710
The most important part is we don't
interrupt it.
702
00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:20,170
Okay. Okay. But there's only one thing
left for me to do. I've got to see both
703
00:39:20,170 --> 00:39:23,470
cats in the room at the same time, and
I've got to see that no violence is
704
00:39:23,470 --> 00:39:24,439
to erupt.
705
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Otherwise, Sandy and Phil are going to
go back to their old way of thinking
706
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,620
these cats can't exist side by side.
707
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,760
Now, you know that at some point you've
got to allow him to do his thing, right?
708
00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:40,840
Now, if he happens to jump up here,
that's what happens. We get totally cool
709
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,840
about it.
710
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,000
I can feel Pirate's heart racing. That's
okay.
711
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,380
Your job is to not allow that. See, now
look, he's getting a little... He's
712
00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:51,680
getting a little what? Nothing's
happening.
713
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,460
It's so important, please, for you guys
to take a second and especially I can
714
00:39:56,460 --> 00:40:01,160
feel it. I keep telling Sandy, relax.
And she's sitting there all crunched up.
715
00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:03,180
You don't think Pirate feels your
energy, Sandy?
716
00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:08,180
Just breathe. These guys are now three
feet away from each other and there
717
00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:11,840
nothing going on. Take a look at
Pirate's body language. He's asleep.
718
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,460
You know that he knows that Woody's
right there, right? Yeah. You love
719
00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:21,140
proof that energy can change a cat's
behavior because as soon as Sandy
720
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:24,000
took a breath and relaxed, boom, pirate
fell asleep.
721
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,360
This is the final thing.
722
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,920
Breathe.
723
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,380
Do you really think that he's going to
go after a sleeping cat?
724
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,760
Yes. From that moment that Woody pokes
his head up and Sandy and Phil both get
725
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,080
tense, this is the culmination of all
the work that we've done. Woody does
726
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,540
attack, it's over.
727
00:40:41,009 --> 00:40:42,330
Woody's leaving this house.
728
00:40:54,090 --> 00:40:55,090
There it is.
729
00:40:55,930 --> 00:41:00,130
Man, I'm so proud of Woody because in
that moment, he looks at Pyre and he
730
00:41:00,270 --> 00:41:03,010
I don't really care much. That was so
important.
731
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,800
For both of these pets and, more
importantly, both of those humans. Now,
732
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,800
I leave, there is one last thing that I
want to do.
733
00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:17,800
Your homework was to erase this board if
you felt like you could.
734
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Erase it all, hon. Erase it all.
735
00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:26,920
The slate is blank.
736
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,060
Having that opportunity to really...
737
00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:30,580
wipe that slate clean.
738
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,660
It's kind of a fresh start. I think that
now we can work with them in a better
739
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:38,040
way than how we were dealing with it
previously.
740
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,540
I felt like a breakthrough today. I'm so
glad you felt that. Thank you so much.
741
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,940
It's my pleasure. All right, guys, you
take care of yourself.
742
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:49,140
And like I said, if you need anything,
you let me know, okay?
743
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:54,180
Jackson, I just want to thank you for
giving us back our home. It was a
744
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:55,180
wonderful experience.
745
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,120
We were feeling very hopeless, and you
gave us hope back, so thank you.
746
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,960
Bye. Bye, Woodrow.
747
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:08,400
Now you can find out how the cats I've
helped are doing today. Check out my new
748
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,360
series, How Do You Like Meow?, available
only online at AnimalPlanet .com.
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