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I feel like I'm in a horror movie with
darkness.
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Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of
the night and he's spanning over me,
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just looking at me like he wants to kill
me. It's near darkness.
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We have four cats.
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We cannot trust them. They cannot be
together because they won't kill each
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other.
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I've gotten badly scratched several
times when I've tried to break the
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up. We've tried everything that we can
try. Nothing works. If we can't make
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work, the boy cats have to go.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats, one -on -one, analyzing their
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behaviors and retraining them and their
guardians.
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When relationships are at an end... You
can't always focus on the cat's needs,
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right? We all have needs in this family.
And cat guardians have reached their
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emotional limit. This is the last straw.
It killed me. I'm their last hope.
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I just love him so much. And I know he's
got a good side.
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Cats have nine lives, but humans only
have one.
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Oh, my gosh!
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Watch darkness.
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Come on.
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Oh, God.
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I'm on my way to go see a cat named
Darkness.
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With a name like that, you know it's all
downhill from there, right?
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Now, Laura and Steve have been together
for quite a while, but the cat came into
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the relationship with Steve. And the
problem is, Laura has always thought
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darkness had it out for her. Come on,
darkness.
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It's either her or the cat.
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And if there's one thing I hate, it's
someone saying it's me or the cat.
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I'm Laura. I'm Steve. We've been
together for seven years, and we live
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cat, Darkness, and he's from hell.
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Out.
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Get. Go.
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Darkness has always been aggressive
towards me. Come on, Darkness.
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Be a nice cat.
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I don't like that she hates my cat. I
just wish, like, he could understand the
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frustrations that I go through.
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He seeks out my belongings and throws up
on them. He's a devil.
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I always wanted a puppy.
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So we rescued our puppy, Rascal J. Fox,
about two years ago.
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Rascal is my sweet baby dog.
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Darkness is like a creepy goth kid with
no friends.
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Sometimes I feel like I'm in a horror
movie with Darkness.
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Because when I'm sleeping, sometimes
I'll wake up in the middle of the night
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he's standing over me, just looking at
me like he's plotting to kill me. He
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keeps us up all night. He takes the
bathroom doors and there's a closet door
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behind the bathroom door and he pushes
one door into the other and it rattles
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the whole house.
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Whenever darkness is misbehaving, Rascal
tattles on him.
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We yell at him, darkness will attack
Rascal and take it out on him.
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Off the couch.
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He's a monster.
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So as awful as darkness is, I still love
him. I had him since he was a little
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baby kitten. But it's just like, you
know, a parent, if your child grows up
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becomes a psycho killer, you're still
going to love him.
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The alternative to not keeping darkness
is putting him down because nobody would
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want this cat. It's near darkness.
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Deal with it.
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Hi, man. Hello.
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Whoa. How you doing? I'm Jackson. I'm
Steve.
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What's up, Steve?
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That dog.
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Yeah, it's Rascal J. Fox. Rascal J. Fox.
Come on here, Rascal. Hello. I'm
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Jackson. I'm Laura. Nice to meet you.
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Yeah, it's Rascal.
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Hi. Hi.
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From the second I walk in the door, the
dog demanded my attention. Of course,
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the cat is nowhere to be found.
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So tell me, what's going on? We've been
together for seven years, and since day
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one, his cat, Darkness, has had...
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A little bit of issue with me. How old
is Darkness? 11. So he predates you.
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Yeah. He acts so differently toward the
two of us. Darkness has a jealousy
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issue. He wants Steve all for himself.
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Look, I may be in the minority. I don't
believe in cat jealousy. I haven't met
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Darkness yet, but it seems to me that
we're dealing with a bad case of human
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projection. What are some of Darkness's
bad behaviors?
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A couple years ago, I was sitting on the
couch. He forced himself next to me.
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swatted at me, and he threw blood in
deep. So has that made it so that you're
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just sort of like this with him all the
time? Yeah, I kind of try to keep our
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distance from each other. I would think
she moved in yesterday, not seven years
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ago. I mean, to be so traumatized that
the cat hasn't even done anything in a
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couple years tells me we got a long road
ahead of us.
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My major issue with him is that he
doesn't let us sleep at night.
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Say I wanted to lay spooning Laura.
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Well, darkness won't have that. He'll
jump up on the bed and he starts clawing
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at my back. And if that doesn't work,
then he jumps out of the bed and goes
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like bang the closet door.
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Rattle the whole house. I'll have to
give in, turn toward him. And he wants
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spooning him.
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You have to spoon him.
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Okay. What else does he do that is
driving you guys to call me? He grooms
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himself on my pillow specifically.
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And then he'll throw up on my
belongings.
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So what do you read into that then? That
he doesn't like me. Because he pukes on
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your stuff?
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Yeah.
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What if he hangs out on your pillow
because he likes you and that the reason
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he's throwing up there is because he
just happened to be there? No. There's
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of a deep psychology at work here
because Laura wants to believe that
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he makes and every negative action is
directed... At her. What's that doing to
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you guys? We just fight over stupid
things that darkness does. Do you wind
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having to be the one defending? I have
to defend darkness a little bit. Right,
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so that's where the fighting comes from,
right? We can't live like this anymore,
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especially with Fraskel. He's my little
baby, and I'm scared that he's going to
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get hurt. I love him. He's afraid of
darkness because darkness charges him?
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When he hears the word darkness, he kind
of gets up. Seriously? Yeah.
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Darkness.
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Darkness.
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Darkness. Although it was pretty funny,
that name carries a lot of negative
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weight, and it signals something inside
of Rascal. That should be all you need
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to hear to know that you're doing
something wrong in the house.
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Okay, so the living room is the area of
destruction and violence. This is the
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area of annoyance, right?
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Yeah.
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That's loud, man. Do your neighbors ever
complain about this?
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Yeah. Your dog is now absolutely rubbing
every orifice of his body. Look at
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that! Look at that!
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But that's all in good fun. Oh, my God,
what's wrong with you?
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Rascal rubbing his body on Laura's
pillow means the same thing as Darkness
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rubbing his body on her pillow.
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Absolutely nothing.
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And this is the problem we've got in
this house. The dog's the good guy and
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cat's the bad guy.
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Hey, buddy.
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All right, guys, I want to spend some
one -on -one time with Darkness.
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Yeah.
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All right, Mr. Buddy.
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Hi. Steve and Laura have built up
Darkness's aggressive behavior, so I
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see how close could I get to him when
approaching him with fear. Here's what I
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want to try.
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I'm going to act like Laura.
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Can we just be friends? Oh.
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I do not like the way you're looking at
me.
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Ow. Damn.
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Oh, man.
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That was not necessary.
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Okay.
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Ow.
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I don't want to be scared, but I am.
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Please get off my couch.
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Oh, my Lord.
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Look at that.
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My challenge line experiment was pretty
successful. I found out that if I
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approach darkness with fear, he
responded with fear and a claw in my
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is my job.
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Cats shed the outside layer of their
claws. It's natural and actually
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for a cat, but I'd prefer they didn't do
it in my hand.
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All right, listen, I totally forgive
you.
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How about we do something different,
okay? Let me get you a toy here.
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What is that?
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Hi, doctor.
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You need a pet?
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Me? If I just move in like we're
friends.
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There, my good boy.
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Are we friends now?
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Oh, and on that note, how's about we
bring in a dog friend?
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You want to say hi to darkness?
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That's that look.
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Oh, hi.
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Oh, yeah, you guys are just like mortal
enemies.
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Dog is not scared of darkness at all.
These two do not have that antagonistic
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relationship that the humans in this
house have ascribed to them. That leads
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to believe that the problem is
redirected aggression, and that belongs
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humans, not on the animals.
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Hey, guys.
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That was interesting because I don't
want to freak you out. This can happen
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you ask for it. If you approach him with
fear, he will respond with fear, and
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that's what the aggression is. Now,
Laura, your relationship with darkness
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have to work on. Your homework is
largely around forging a new groove. You
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haven't been really attacked in a while,
but the fear, the trauma that you've
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experienced with that is what informs
your current movements with him. So if
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approach him with confidence, He gives
you confidence back.
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I'll try my best. It's going to be a
little scary.
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I really hope it works out. If not, then
Jackson's going to have to do an
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exorcism on our demon.
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Now, when it comes to darkness attacking
Rascal, my theory is that what you're
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seeing mostly is redirected aggression.
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Redirected aggression is when you freak
him out by trying to get him off the
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couch. That's why he goes after the dog.
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So your job is exhausting.
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So he's not part of that energy that
causes darkness to redirect.
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I want Rascal to spend some time at a
dog park, taking long walks, just so
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when he comes home, he doesn't spend the
entire time running around and barking.
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Next thing is to be able to redefine
what you're seeing. It's reducing him as
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darkness, puts a cloud over him. So I
want you to give him a new name.
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I always call him Princess, but that
often just makes him more upset.
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It's going to be really hard changing
his name and changing his identity.
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We'll have to think of something to call
him.
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And finally, we're going to change the
darkness, his body clock, okay? The only
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way to do this is to completely ignore
him when you guys go to bed.
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If you have any issues at all, give me a
call, okay?
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All right, I'll see you in a few weeks.
All right, take care, guys.
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I hope Jackson's advice works. I'm a
little skeptical. I don't want to think
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about the alternative, but I don't know
how much more I can live like this with
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darkness.
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All right, I'm here for my second visit
with Steve and Laura, their cat,
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Darkness, and, of course, their ever
-present dog, Rascal.
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Now, the last time I was here, I was
dealing with a pretty aggressive cat.
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my Lord.
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But we were also dealing with people who
were looking at this cat as if he were
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the devil himself, and that was a
problem, too.
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Hey! Now, I took a look at their video
homework, and it didn't look too good.
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had another night of not being able to
sleep very well.
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Doesn't like this.
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Now, I'm hoping there's a little bit of
sunshine lurking behind these stormy
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skies, but, you know, I'm not going to
hold my breath.
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Oh, yes. Well, hello, dog.
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All right. Let's get right to it. So,
what's up? Well, we did your homework.
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changed the cat's name. I figured, well,
what's the opposite of darkness? Yeah.
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And Jedi.
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Jedi. I like that.
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Let's give them an empowering name.
Totally. That works.
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I had them rename darkness so they could
reframe the way they see the cat.
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This will allow a fresh start for Jedi
and it'll allow Laura to see the cat in
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brand new way. That's something that we
have been successful on doing, the
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homework. So that must mean there's a
bunch of stuff that wasn't successful,
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huh?
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Yeah, we can get into that.
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Last night we had like two hours of
sleep. It's almost like the nighttime
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activity gradually increased.
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He'll sit in the corner and stare at us.
I'll wake up and he's hovering over me.
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I still feel like he's possessed.
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If Jedi does anything wrong, he's
possessed.
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Now that's insane.
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To think in a serious way that your cat
has a devil in him is just a ledge that
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I have to pull her back from because if
I don't, I don't even know why I'm here.
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You actually believe that his intent is
bad. Then it will be.
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Because he has no way of defending
himself.
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Is there anything that you would call
progress?
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He hasn't vomited on any of my
belongings.
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So that's really good.
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Did you actually believe me when I told
you that it wasn't a personal thing? I
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still think it's a personal thing.
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I'm past my breaking point with Jedi. I
want to know what Jackson is going to
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tell us to do next because I don't want
to live like this anymore.
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Hey, buddy, buddy.
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Hey, Jedi.
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Well, that doesn't help. You know what?
Let's try something new.
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Steve, do me a favor, will you?
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Will you go and take him for a walk?
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Not only did I want a little break from
Rascal, I also wanted to spend some time
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alone with Laura and Jedi.
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I'm going to have you sit on that pillow
next to him and just sit.
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Okay? I'm going to sit on this side.
Okay.
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So, and all we're going to do right now
is just sort of sit back. I had one
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really important goal, and that was to
prove to Laura that her cat is not
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possessed. Get as close to him as you
can without touch.
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Good boy.
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Go ahead and present your hand. Just put
it down.
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Now,
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the last time I was here, I got beat up
pretty bad by Jedi, who was darkness
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back then. But the reason that happened
was that I approached him with fear,
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which is what Laura does every single
day. Now, if she approaches Jedi from a
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completely relaxed and confident place,
I'm hoping he's going to respond in an
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equally relaxed way. So, Laura, what I
want you to do is go in for a pet, come
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in from the side, and do it slowly but
with intent.
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Oh, gosh. I hope he doesn't, like,
scratch me.
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Oh, gosh.
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He was just staring at me.
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There it is.
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There it is. See?
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That was awesome.
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Good boy.
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When Jackson asked me to pet Jedi, I was
kind of hesitant because I was scared
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that he would attack me.
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Well, I like that I can pet him right
now.
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Normally, you couldn't. Like, he would
hiss at me and say no.
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What was that?
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Well, I got scared. I thought he was
going to do it. Okay. Listen, this whole
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thing has to begin and end with trust.
Yeah. And if you don't trust him to sit
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with you, that's a big deal.
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Now, Laura's really prone to this kind
of behavior. I've seen it before, and I
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saw it today.
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If she approaches him with fear, at some
point, Jedi's going to attack her. And
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then, I've lost her.
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Let's get to your homework.
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So, let's start with quiet time.
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sitting next to him, taking a nap, doing
whatever it is, so that you're inviting
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him to just be quiet with you. It's
something that never happens that I get
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sit with Jedi and pet him, so we'll see
on the homework if we can continue that
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bond. If you think he hates you, he
hates you. We have to be able to blank
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this whole thing and start again.
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The next part of the homework is the
catification part of things, okay? So
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on one second.
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So, Cat Tree, okay?
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Very simple. The cool thing is we've got
two different levels. When you're
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playing with him, you can encourage him
to just jump up, find his place that
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he's comfortable. I wanted them to have
two different cat trees in their world.
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I presented one of them, which I want
them to put by the couch. And my hope is
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that when they're on the couch, Jedi
finds his place and isn't roaming around
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much. Finally, Steve, keep taking the
dog to a dog park. Take him for long
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walks. Just hire him out. All right,
guys, I'm going to cut out. If you have
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questions, please call me. Good luck to
you.
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I hope the next time that Jackson meets
Jedi that the Force has awoken and he is
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a happy, friendly cat that is
approachable by anyone.
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If not, then Jedi is out.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Jackson, I need your help. How can I get
my dog and cat to get along?
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The answer, right after the break.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
Jackson, I need your help. How can I get
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dog and cat to get along?
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I'm glad you asked, Sue. I would go for
an uncovered litter box because if you
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uncover that box, cats have escape
routes. If the dog is coming, the cat
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head for the hills.
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Second thing is, feed your cat up on
something, like a table, because they
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to have a fighting chance to eat their
dinner before the dog comes for that.
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Third of all, make sure you're training
your dog so that cat can walk across the
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floor. in safety without being chased
because the dog thinks the cat's a toy.
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Remember, you can tell the cat it's a
safe world, but then you've got to be
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to cash that dog check.
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All right, I'm here for my final visit
with Steve, Laura, and the cat formerly
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known as Darkness, Jedi.
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The first time I visited them, Laura was
convinced that Jedi was an evil demon.
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Off the couch.
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hell -bent on their destruction, while
their dog Rascal was this perfect little
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angel. Now, I've had my work cut out for
me this whole time with this couple,
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and I just hope that when I get in there
today, I'll see that the work paid off.
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Hey, Laura.
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Hey. Well, hi.
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Hey, Bubba.
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How are we?
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Oh, man, I was not expecting to come in
and say hi to you. Now, every time that
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I've visited in the past, Jedi's been
hiding. The fact that he is social
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enough... To be here, to hang out,
signifies a lot of really cool stuff.
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Now, the big question is, are you guys
getting any sleep?
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The first couple days were really awful,
and I just was like, no, I'm just going
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to ignore him. He would come and try to
get in my face, and then it was
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scratching at the door, and I'm just
going to ignore him. And then he went
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shut himself in the bathroom so that he
could bang the doors together.
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He kind of just gave up over time. He
was just like, she's not getting up.
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I'm just going to have to sit here and
go to sleep.
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Fantastic. Cats can be very persistent
when they're trying to get you to resume
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old patterns. But Laura didn't give in,
and Jedi learned that his old tricks
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weren't going to work anymore. What was
it from the homework that allows you to
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sleep now?
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I would say the fact that we ignore any
of the bad behaviors and the pet tree.
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Yeah. And taking Rascal on lots of trips
to the dog park. Well, it looks like
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things are going pretty well. But most
importantly, do you feel safe now?
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Yeah, I do.
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Aha! That's fantastic.
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I have been collecting all your video.
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And time to watch it. Let's take a look.
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Ooh!
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It's a treat.
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Aren't you sweet?
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You talk to your cat.
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Nice.
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Oh, get out.
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Oh, my God.
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How cool.
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Oh, no. You're kidding me.
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Oh, my God. That's the sweetest thing
ever.
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Yeah. Oh, that's so great, guys.
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There's so much good stuff on here.
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There's so much that I'm just kind of
bursting with right now because I know
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that you guys are on such a good track.
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I feel like my bond with Jedi now is so
much stronger than it's ever been
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before. I used to think that Jedi was
jealous of Laura.
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Now I'm jealous of Jedi going after
Laura all the time. I'm like, what
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to my baby cat?
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Killer, man. Look what you've built,
Laura.
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Look what you built.
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He's never been just like, oh, let me
just be a friendly cat.
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I love him.
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Yay!
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He's my cat, and Rascal's my dog, and I
love them both.
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Nothing is a nicer thing for a cat guy
to hear than that.
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This whole experience has helped myself
claim Jedi as mine, and in turn, Jedi
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now can claim me as his human.
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Through Jackson's teaching, I have a
changed cat and a happy girlfriend.
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So, Laura, I have something for you.
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What do you think? That's cute. Thank
you. I present to you. Thank
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you.
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It speaks the truth. I love my baby
Jedi.
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Pretty disappointed that I didn't get
one.
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And there's our boy.
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That's it.
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Cats are all about energy. When I first
met these guys, the energy was chaotic
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and polarized.
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Now, by changing their attitude towards
the cat, they've created positive
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energy. And by exercising the dog on a
regular basis, they've gotten rid of the
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chaotic energy.
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Bye. Bye.
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Now, Jedi is part of a harmonious,
loving family.
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We have four cats.
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We cannot trust them. They cannot be
together because they will kill each
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We've tried everything that we can try.
Nothing works.
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If we can't make this work, boy cats
have to go.
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Malice. Malice. No!
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No!
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So I'm heading over to see Mark and
Catalina and their four cats.
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The girl cats in this situation are
beating up the boy cats on a daily
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The cats are tearing each other up, and
I'm just afraid they're going to tear
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this marriage up as well.
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I'm Mark. I'm Catalina, and we have been
together for eight years.
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So we have four cats, two girls, Kamal
and Mipo, and two boys, Norman and
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Sebastian. The combination of the four
cats is not a good combination.
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Back when we just had the two cats, life
wasn't great. It wasn't until we
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brought the other two cats in here that
things really got crazy.
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The four cats cannot be together, ever,
because we cannot trust them that they
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will not kill each other.
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Mark,
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he wasn't so excited about having them.
They really never liked each other that
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much. The boys are standoffish. When I
pick them up, they don't like it.
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scratch at me.
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I got a big scratch yesterday where post
-fight I was getting another cat out of
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the way. Unless we keep them locked in
completely separate places, something
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happens.
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Our solution to have a glimpse of a
normal life is to keep the cats apart.
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But that is not a solution.
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It's not a solution.
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And we're sleeping in different
bedrooms.
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This is where I sleep with the boys at
night.
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And the girls will either be free or
with my husband.
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It's a nightmare.
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No! We are stressing each other.
Sometimes in the mornings we don't want
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to each other. We can't always focus on
the cat's needs.
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We all have needs in this family.
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It's clearly not a sustainable
arrangement.
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Nobody's happy.
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And if we can't make this work with
Jackson, then...
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It's really our last option, which
means, boy, cats have to go.
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I know it would break your heart.
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The part that kills me is their future,
like what will happen.
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Sending the cat back will be so painful.
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Hey, let's talk cats.
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Sounds great. Well, now, where's your
husband? Well, he's working.
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So I walk in to talk to Catalina and
Mark and no Mark. And that's a problem
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right off the bat because I know we're
going to have a lot of work to do in
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home and we can't do it with just one
partner. We have four cats.
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Yes. Two boys, two girls. Correct.
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The girls are Meatball.
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And Tamale. And Tamale. And the boys are
Snowman and... Sebastian.
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Tell me a little bit about the girls.
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So the girls were about four months old
when we got them. And we have been with
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them for about two years and a half. So
where'd you get the boys from? The
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regional owner of the cats.
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took the cats to the vet and left them
there.
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And they had been there for nine months
in a cage.
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They were in a cage for nine months? How
old were they? They are now like a
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year. So most of their life was spent in
a cage.
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Wow. You can't imagine what it's like to
be Sebastian and Snowman. I mean, their
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entire formative period was spent in a
cage.
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They had no social life to speak of with
other cats or with other humans.
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And that puts a dent in their
development that I'm not so sure we can
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The fighting among the cats has affected
their lives tremendously, from fighting
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with my husband, from having to sleep.
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Are you guys sleeping separately?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know.
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Once the couples have gone to that
place, I know they're in different
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they have no level of intimacy because
of the problem in their home. When it
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00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:21,120
comes to the concept of rehoming the
boys, is that okay with you? No.
457
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,880
I'm not ready to give up.
458
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:25,860
Was Mark for or against?
459
00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:27,249
The boy's coming.
460
00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:29,230
He wasn't so excited about having them.
461
00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:30,610
Who's his favorite? What would he say?
462
00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:34,630
Tamale. If you had to pick one cat that
is the instigator?
463
00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:36,830
Tamale. Isn't that interesting?
464
00:26:37,210 --> 00:26:40,710
Is Mark saying, let's just give up?
Correct.
465
00:26:41,550 --> 00:26:42,930
We got our work cut out for us.
466
00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:46,430
If this doesn't work, it will be very
difficult and very painful.
467
00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:47,940
Here's the kitchen.
468
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,740
Okay, then we have cats. And we have
some cats there. This is Somali. Somali,
469
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:52,740
the red color.
470
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,120
So he's cornered already.
471
00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:55,920
There you go. Let's go this way.
472
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,140
Oh, there they are. Okay, we don't want
to break this up. I've got to be able to
473
00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:00,959
see this.
474
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,860
That's Sebastian there. Now you see how
Sebastian is acting like prey, right?
475
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,820
See how frozen he is? And as he starts
to move, see, now she's getting
476
00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:10,820
interested.
477
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,080
See?
478
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,380
Now, Sebastian knows what he's doing.
You see? He's turning over on his side.
479
00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:18,470
He's saying, I'm not a threat.
480
00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:20,530
Now she's done.
481
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:22,530
Oh, no, no, no. There they go. Come on.
482
00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:27,170
From what I'm seeing, Tamale's not
trying to assert dominance over
483
00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:28,170
all. She's hunting.
484
00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:31,530
He acted like prey. She acted like a
predator. It's really pretty black and
485
00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:32,429
white.
486
00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:33,430
OK, close the door.
487
00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:38,390
Stop right here. Yeah, yeah. We have the
boys, the girls.
488
00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:41,450
So see how he goes up? She goes up,
right?
489
00:27:41,890 --> 00:27:43,390
So now he's trapped up here.
490
00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:45,530
And now you've got Sebastian.
491
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,439
I want to go too.
492
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
No, see, he can't. And now he's
surrounded.
493
00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:55,940
What we have here is not a male versus
female issue. What we have here is a
494
00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:58,200
clear -cut case of prey versus predator.
495
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920
The boys are acting like prey, so
they're being hunted and attacked by the
496
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,480
girls. Plain and simple. So we took them
into another room to work on that. And
497
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,380
Sebastian immediately disappeared.
498
00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:11,620
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Come on. I know. But Snowman didn't,
499
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,880
which gives me the opportunity to get to
know Snowman.
500
00:28:14,699 --> 00:28:16,800
This boy, you see his challenge line?
501
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:22,900
Mm -hmm. Right here. Mm -hmm. Right? You
get him to jump on this here.
502
00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:25,740
We have a whole new story for him.
503
00:28:26,140 --> 00:28:29,760
He can come out and take the middle of
the room. What that tells me about a cat
504
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,040
is that he has confidence.
505
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,980
Look at him. He so badly wants to.
506
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,200
Almost there, buddy.
507
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Oh, God.
508
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,140
Good boy. Good boy.
509
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:47,630
It is so huge. The snowman came out and
met the challenge line that I set for
510
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:50,190
him. Sebastian, on the other hand, he's
another story.
511
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:53,330
But, you know, I... Hey. Hey, how are
you?
512
00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:56,510
Good. I'm Mark. I'm Jack. Good to meet
you, man. Good to meet you. Thank you.
513
00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:59,350
how has this entire problem been
affecting you guys?
514
00:28:59,550 --> 00:29:01,750
Well, it certainly has a lot of stress
to our relationship.
515
00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:04,950
Sometimes we argue about it. Sometimes I
get angry.
516
00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:07,470
So tell me emotionally, where are you?
517
00:29:07,730 --> 00:29:08,850
We're really at the end.
518
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,160
This is our last opportunity to have the
cats work together. And if it doesn't
519
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,560
work out, then I think we need to rehome
the boys.
520
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800
No, I'm not ready to give up.
521
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,080
They are our cats.
522
00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:24,120
I mean, the future is uncertain if they
cannot stay here. What is going to
523
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,440
happen to them? And that will totally
kill me.
524
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,880
The tension between Mark and Catalina is
clear. Though Mark knows getting rid of
525
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,180
the boys would break Catalina's heart,
he's not going to be moved on this
526
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,740
I have to get all of these cats properly
socialized and keep this family
527
00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:43,020
together. All right, guys. So I want you
to do sight swapping. Every hour the
528
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:44,840
boys spend with you, the girls spend
with you.
529
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,100
Sight swapping is simply switching
environments with the cats so they can
530
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,660
know one another without actually being
in the same room.
531
00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:55,460
Now, this is the first step towards
getting all four cats being able to
532
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:57,260
in the same space. Let's talk about
play.
533
00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:02,080
First job is yours, Mark. You're going
to have the boys, and the boys need to
534
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,640
achieve that ownership.
535
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,480
This piece of homework is crucial. It's
going to help the boys' mojo come out
536
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200
while getting them to explore the house,
and at the same time help Mark develop
537
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,460
a bond with them, which he currently
doesn't have.
538
00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:17,930
And for you, Catalina, girl play time. I
want them to really get that energy
539
00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:22,170
out. Kamal has got predatory instincts
that are not being drained away. That's
540
00:30:22,170 --> 00:30:23,170
your job, okay?
541
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:27,550
Next time I come back here, the sleeping
apart thing cannot happen anymore.
542
00:30:28,050 --> 00:30:29,050
Groovy? Yes.
543
00:30:29,170 --> 00:30:32,870
Okay. Great meeting you. Thank you so
much. Thank you so much. All right. I'll
544
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:34,970
see you in a few weeks, okay? All right.
Awesome. Thank you. All right, guys.
545
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:35,679
Bye -bye.
546
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600
I'm super hopeful. I'm super willing to
do everything.
547
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,180
I'm hopeful, but I'm also apprehensive
because we don't want to get our hopes
548
00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:44,920
up. If it fails, we're out of options.
549
00:30:56,580 --> 00:31:00,460
I'm here for my second visit with Mark
and Catalina and their cats Snowman,
550
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Sebastian, Meatball, and Tamale. And the
last time I was here, we were dealing
551
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,350
with... Serious cat -on -cat aggression.
552
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:08,190
There was a lot of problems.
553
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:11,710
So I took a look at their video
homework. I saw Mark's been playing with
554
00:31:11,710 --> 00:31:15,430
boys and Catalina with the girls, and
they've been sight -swapping and getting
555
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:16,590
the cats used to each other since.
556
00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:20,310
We're in a really tough spot right now.
I mean, Mark can't live with four
557
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:24,270
constantly feeding cats under the same
roof, and Catalina refuses to let the
558
00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:28,110
boys go. I hope I can get these boys
socialized properly and keep this family
559
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:29,850
together. So tell me, what's been going
on?
560
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Where to start?
561
00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:36,240
Uh -oh. I don't like the sound of that.
Let's start by the most exciting part,
562
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,460
which is the snowman. He is doing
amazing. Is he really? Amazing, amazing,
563
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:45,560
amazing. So much more confident, so much
more relaxed. So basically what we had
564
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,200
seen last time with him coming out and
playing more of that. Yes. I like that.
565
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,400
I've been playing with the boys every
day.
566
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,340
Good. But Sebastian is still very timid.
What do you think the reason for that
567
00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,440
is? We don't know.
568
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,880
It's great that the homework has paid
off with Snowman. A cat with confidence
569
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,320
will not look like prey to the others.
But if I can't help Sebastian find his
570
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800
mojo as well, Meepo and Tamale are still
going to see him as prey, and the
571
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,020
fights are still going to continue.
572
00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:16,700
How are you feeling in terms of the sake
of having to rehome somebody?
573
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,620
There's encouragement and there's
frustration together. We're encouraged
574
00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:25,720
see progress in three of the cats, but
unfortunately it's an all -or -nothing
575
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,920
situation. And it will totally, totally
break my heart to send them somewhere.
576
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,020
The situation managed to become even
more complicated, and I wasn't sure what
577
00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:40,420
make of it quite yet. I just knew that I
needed to see Sebastian and assess his
578
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:42,420
condition. Where's my boy at?
579
00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:44,320
Well, there you are.
580
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,300
Hi, Sebastian.
581
00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:49,940
He's like a rock.
582
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,460
Yeah, he's petrified, yeah.
583
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,320
Where did this blanket even come from?
Well, I put it there, yeah.
584
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,620
So he could be covered. Yes.
585
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,260
I saw Sebastian in the bathtub under a
blanket. And when I took that blanket
586
00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:06,700
away, the portrait of fear that was
Sebastian was pretty shocking.
587
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,600
So I decided to focus on the positive,
which was Snowman's incredible progress,
588
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:15,600
and start mixing things up between him
and Tamale, one of the girls.
589
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,720
Okay, our goal here is to have Snowman
and Tamale exist together here in the
590
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,460
same room. We have the cats in basically
opposite sides of the room, and we're
591
00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:29,860
going to occupy them. Name of the game
is, how long can we just keep them in
592
00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:34,260
here without anything breaking out?
These cats only know life as boys on one
593
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:38,100
side, girls on the other. Now we need to
break up this dynamic by building new
594
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,460
relationships, one co -ed pair at a
time.
595
00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:44,880
Oh, what are we doing?
596
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:47,060
I do not want her focusing in on him.
597
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:51,800
So I thought to Molly, come up to
Snowman and kind of corner him. That's
598
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,800
we get into trouble.
599
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:58,060
If you can get her, even with a toy, to
turn her head that way, we're great.
600
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,600
You got her going right now, man.
Fantastic.
601
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,960
Great. Good move.
602
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,280
There you go. Exactly right.
603
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:13,219
Now, get her to move.
604
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:19,730
If she takes one step in that direction,
I'm psyched. This exercise is all about
605
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:20,730
redirecting focus.
606
00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:24,690
And there we go.
607
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:29,389
This is just fantastic. She's got her
back totally turned to snow.
608
00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:34,690
So now the goal is let's get him out a
little bit. Let me take over for you for
609
00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:38,929
just a sec. Now we've got Tamale
occupied, but the longer that snowman
610
00:34:38,929 --> 00:34:43,360
under that tree, acting like a scared
rabbit, the more of a chance is that
611
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,280
Tamale's going to turn and chase him.
And then everything falls apart.
612
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,020
Let me see if I can get him. Good boy.
613
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,179
There we go.
614
00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:52,719
There's my boy.
615
00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:54,560
There's my boy.
616
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Seeing Snowman come and play and don't
pay attention to Tamale at all, huge.
617
00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:03,200
We're so excited about that.
618
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,060
Talk to me about, are we all sleeping in
this room now? Mm -hmm. All the time?
619
00:35:09,879 --> 00:35:11,080
Not all the time.
620
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,240
Most of the time we are. There have been
a couple of instances when we haven't
621
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,240
because of the cat.
622
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,620
The cat can't be trusted.
623
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040
The situation still isn't where it needs
to be.
624
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:24,780
Now, I've got a surprise for you guys. I
will be right back. Okay.
625
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,720
Come on in. Hey, guys.
626
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:30,120
I'd like to introduce you to Kate
Benjamin.
627
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,450
Hi. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
628
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:37,690
And if you know catification at all, you
know it's about making your house into
629
00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:42,030
a really appealing place for you and
your cat. We are going to catify this
630
00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:43,830
in a big way, okay?
631
00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:46,770
Mark, I know you got an opinion, man. I
know you do.
632
00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:51,330
What is it? I mean, I'm kind of a
minimalist guy when it comes to
633
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:54,670
but I think that you can have a lot
without looking like it's a lot.
634
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,900
And this room is so important, being the
bedroom, for you both to coexist,
635
00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:01,760
right? Kate, I know you've got a lot of
work to do, and you guys are going to
636
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,380
have some homework to do. Awesome. Let's
go out there, and I'll give it to you,
637
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,379
okay?
638
00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:08,900
First of all, what I'm going to want is
couples playtime, which is exactly what
639
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:11,960
we just did, but I want you to expand it
out to different groups.
640
00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:13,260
Boy, girl, boy, girl.
641
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,800
We saw today that Snowman and Tamale can
be fine in the same room together.
642
00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:21,700
They need to repeat the exercise every
day with these two, and also separately
643
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,300
with Sebastian and Meatball.
644
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,660
And the next time I'm here, we can get
all four of them together without a war
645
00:36:26,660 --> 00:36:27,618
breaking out.
646
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:28,620
Fingers crossed.
647
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,760
Mark, been kind of quiet through this
whole thing. How are you feeling right
648
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,760
now?
649
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:36,020
I feel confident and I feel ready to
take on the challenge.
650
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,000
But we're concerned a little bit that
Sebastian isn't coming along enough.
651
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,900
And it's certainly added a lot of stress
to our relationship.
652
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,320
Don't get discouraged.
653
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,800
It's lots of work, but let's keep
working, okay?
654
00:36:48,490 --> 00:36:51,530
All the cats really need to progress and
be in a better place.
655
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:54,570
Or else we're back to square one, which
is finding a new home for the boys.
656
00:36:59,310 --> 00:36:59,710
All
657
00:36:59,710 --> 00:37:07,270
right,
658
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:10,290
I'm here for my third and final visit
with Mark and Catalina and their four
659
00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:11,290
cats.
660
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:15,530
Now, the first time I was here, it was
total chaos with the girls, Meatball and
661
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:19,950
Tamale, hunting and attacking the boys,
Sebastian and Snowman, every chance they
662
00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:24,050
had. So, I'm taking a look at their
video homework, and couples' playtime
663
00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:25,050
to be going well.
664
00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:26,630
Also,
665
00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:34,950
Kate's catification is a work of art,
giving four cats plenty of room to do
666
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:37,910
their thing without infringing on anyone
else's space.
667
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:42,610
And I saw Meatball and Sebastian within
a few inches of each other. I hope it
668
00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:46,050
didn't end badly because the option of
rehoming the boys is still on the table.
669
00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:50,590
Tell me, since the last time I was here,
have there been any full -on fights
670
00:37:50,590 --> 00:37:51,590
between the cats?
671
00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:55,690
Nothing.
672
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:58,350
That's a starting place. Fantastic.
673
00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:02,550
So I had you guys mixing up the couples.
How did that progress?
674
00:38:02,850 --> 00:38:07,190
I think the best part has been Meatball
and Sebastian.
675
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,920
We think they're like this close to be
friends. Friends?
676
00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:15,020
Yeah. Few changes from day one to today.
677
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600
The power of play, it has been so clear.
678
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:24,760
Now Sebastian is the one that is like
not hiding. He's not afraid anymore.
679
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,078
Good.
680
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,920
Today, we're going to get all four cats
in the same room.
681
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:32,820
So these guys have been working on
couples play time with one boy cat and
682
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girl cat over the last couple of weeks.
683
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But today is going to be the first time
that we're going to get all four cats in
684
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the room at the same time. You guys
ready? I am ready for it.
685
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:44,010
And I am worried about it. Yeah, me too.
Let's go.
686
00:38:44,330 --> 00:38:48,310
I got to see this. And more importantly,
Mark needs to see this if the boys have
687
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any chance of remaining in this house.
Now, the cool part is we've got Meatball
688
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:55,850
and Tamale here in the room, both of
whom seem pretty relaxed.
689
00:38:56,350 --> 00:38:58,270
Let's have you start working with the
girls. Sure.
690
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:59,970
And I'll bring the snow.
691
00:39:00,350 --> 00:39:03,830
The girls were already comfortable in
the room, so I sent Catalina out to
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the boys in one by one, starting with
Snowman.
693
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:12,950
And Snowman made a beeline for the
corner with Tamale Fast on his heels.
694
00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:19,610
But this time, rather than lay down and
look like prey, Snowman hisses at
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Tamale. Now, this is a strong display of
confidence. Snowman's telling Tamale,
696
00:39:23,410 --> 00:39:24,450
don't mess with me.
697
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Okay, see, here's where I step in.
698
00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:35,980
I'm the human diffusion post here,
right?
699
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,920
You see what happens the second I walk
in front of Tamale. She's not as drawn
700
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,380
into him. She's lost interest in Snowman
because I'm distracting her with a toy.
701
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,320
The whole idea here is movement.
702
00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:52,040
Basis is our enemy. Yes, I'm acting as
the human diffusion post in the middle
703
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,320
the room, more like a traffic cop. But
as the cats learn how traffic works...
704
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,660
They're not going to need the cop. Once
she's not after him, Snowman relaxes
705
00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,420
too. She's like, there's no payoff in
this for me. Awesome.
706
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,680
And off she goes.
707
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:10,820
Yeah. With Snowman safe from Tamale's
unwanted advances, it's time to focus on
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00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:11,860
shy little Sebastian.
709
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,780
Hello, little Sebastian.
710
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,640
What's that?
711
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,580
Sebastian does feel comfortable.
712
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:19,140
The last time I was here.
713
00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:22,770
He was so scared, I thought his heart
was going to come out of his chest. But
714
00:40:22,770 --> 00:40:26,670
giving him this vertical space, he does
feel protected.
715
00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:31,090
You know, the great thing about the
catification is Sebastian coming out
716
00:40:31,090 --> 00:40:35,210
that room, getting on a shelf and
finding safety up in the world, that was
717
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:39,870
deal. This is probably the first time
that he discovers that being high saves
718
00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:40,870
him. Yeah.
719
00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:45,030
Thinking back to where we were before
compared to where we are now, the change
720
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:46,050
has really been tremendous.
721
00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:47,830
It used to be I couldn't pick up
Sebastian.
722
00:40:50,110 --> 00:40:52,670
Sebastian's the one that clawed me, but
we're now best friends.
723
00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:55,970
You are best friends? Yeah, Sebastian
comes to me for play.
724
00:40:56,250 --> 00:41:00,570
So no more getting clawed? No. In terms
of the first time that all four of these
725
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:03,950
cats are in the same room together,
pretty remarkable. Watching things come
726
00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:06,150
together today was intensely satisfying.
727
00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:11,330
both on the human side and the cat side.
Now, I know the job was really hard for
728
00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:14,710
you, Mark. The first day that I was
here, you were the one talking about,
729
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:17,850
if this keeps up, we're going to have to
find another home for the boys. Where
730
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:18,850
are you now?
731
00:41:19,530 --> 00:41:22,410
Well, we no longer have conversations
about rehoming the boy.
732
00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:25,910
We used to talk about it every day, and
I don't think we've mentioned it for
733
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:26,910
quite a while now. Really?
734
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:30,310
Absolutely. That must feel nice. Yeah. I
got to ask you, because we're standing
735
00:41:30,310 --> 00:41:33,930
here by the bed here, are we here now?
Are we all here?
736
00:41:34,210 --> 00:41:35,210
We are here.
737
00:41:35,390 --> 00:41:37,510
Good. No sleep to be suffered. No sleep
to be suffered.
738
00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:39,250
Then my job is done.
739
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:40,750
Thank you so much.
740
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:44,310
And we're so lucky we were able to work
with you. Yeah. You really were our last
741
00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:47,450
hope. Thank you so much. Through this
process and the homework that we were
742
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:50,210
given, we were able to rebuild the
relationships between the cats.
743
00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:54,530
And in turn, we rebuilt our relationship
as well. The boys are part of the
744
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:55,348
family now.
745
00:41:55,350 --> 00:41:56,990
I couldn't even think about rehoming
them.
746
00:41:57,310 --> 00:42:00,670
Jackson, we are eternally grateful for
your collaboration.
747
00:42:01,090 --> 00:42:02,090
Thank you very much.
748
00:42:04,270 --> 00:42:08,330
Now you can find out how the cats I've
helped are doing today. Check out my new
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series, How Do You Like Meow, available
only online at AnimalPlanet .com.
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