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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,140 --> 00:00:05,940 I feel like I'm in a horror movie with darkness. 2 00:00:06,580 --> 00:00:10,020 Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night and he's spanning over me, 3 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,720 just looking at me like he wants to kill me. It's near darkness. 4 00:00:18,180 --> 00:00:19,600 We have four cats. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,800 We cannot trust them. They cannot be together because they won't kill each 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,800 other. 7 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:29,680 I've gotten badly scratched several times when I've tried to break the 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,360 up. We've tried everything that we can try. Nothing works. If we can't make 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,780 work, the boy cats have to go. 10 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:42,160 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 11 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:45,840 I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 12 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:49,160 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 13 00:00:53,540 --> 00:00:55,680 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 14 00:00:56,260 --> 00:01:01,820 In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats, one -on -one, analyzing their 15 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:04,860 behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 16 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:09,100 When relationships are at an end... You can't always focus on the cat's needs, 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,640 right? We all have needs in this family. And cat guardians have reached their 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,740 emotional limit. This is the last straw. It killed me. I'm their last hope. 19 00:01:17,060 --> 00:01:20,480 I just love him so much. And I know he's got a good side. 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,700 Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one. 21 00:01:24,940 --> 00:01:26,060 Oh, my gosh! 22 00:01:32,820 --> 00:01:33,820 Watch darkness. 23 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:34,960 Come on. 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,360 Oh, God. 25 00:01:45,140 --> 00:01:47,420 I'm on my way to go see a cat named Darkness. 26 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,380 With a name like that, you know it's all downhill from there, right? 27 00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:53,930 Now, Laura and Steve have been together for quite a while, but the cat came into 28 00:01:53,930 --> 00:01:58,310 the relationship with Steve. And the problem is, Laura has always thought 29 00:01:58,310 --> 00:02:00,170 darkness had it out for her. Come on, darkness. 30 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:04,950 It's either her or the cat. 31 00:02:05,150 --> 00:02:08,270 And if there's one thing I hate, it's someone saying it's me or the cat. 32 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:13,990 I'm Laura. I'm Steve. We've been together for seven years, and we live 33 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:15,690 cat, Darkness, and he's from hell. 34 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:18,270 Out. 35 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:19,510 Get. Go. 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Darkness has always been aggressive towards me. Come on, Darkness. 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Be a nice cat. 38 00:02:26,260 --> 00:02:31,060 I don't like that she hates my cat. I just wish, like, he could understand the 39 00:02:31,060 --> 00:02:32,420 frustrations that I go through. 40 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:37,920 He seeks out my belongings and throws up on them. He's a devil. 41 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,820 I always wanted a puppy. 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,740 So we rescued our puppy, Rascal J. Fox, about two years ago. 43 00:02:45,980 --> 00:02:48,140 Rascal is my sweet baby dog. 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,180 Darkness is like a creepy goth kid with no friends. 45 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,060 Sometimes I feel like I'm in a horror movie with Darkness. 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Because when I'm sleeping, sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,980 he's standing over me, just looking at me like he's plotting to kill me. He 48 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:08,900 keeps us up all night. He takes the bathroom doors and there's a closet door 49 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:12,580 behind the bathroom door and he pushes one door into the other and it rattles 50 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:13,580 the whole house. 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,400 Whenever darkness is misbehaving, Rascal tattles on him. 52 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:24,440 We yell at him, darkness will attack Rascal and take it out on him. 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,680 Off the couch. 54 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:27,770 He's a monster. 55 00:03:29,890 --> 00:03:34,010 So as awful as darkness is, I still love him. I had him since he was a little 56 00:03:34,010 --> 00:03:38,430 baby kitten. But it's just like, you know, a parent, if your child grows up 57 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:40,850 becomes a psycho killer, you're still going to love him. 58 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:48,510 The alternative to not keeping darkness is putting him down because nobody would 59 00:03:48,510 --> 00:03:50,250 want this cat. It's near darkness. 60 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:51,570 Deal with it. 61 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Hi, man. Hello. 62 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:01,140 Whoa. How you doing? I'm Jackson. I'm Steve. 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,399 What's up, Steve? 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,319 That dog. 65 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,460 Yeah, it's Rascal J. Fox. Rascal J. Fox. Come on here, Rascal. Hello. I'm 66 00:04:07,460 --> 00:04:09,180 Jackson. I'm Laura. Nice to meet you. 67 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,379 Yeah, it's Rascal. 68 00:04:10,380 --> 00:04:11,380 Hi. Hi. 69 00:04:11,540 --> 00:04:15,000 From the second I walk in the door, the dog demanded my attention. Of course, 70 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:16,899 the cat is nowhere to be found. 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,380 So tell me, what's going on? We've been together for seven years, and since day 72 00:04:21,380 --> 00:04:23,700 one, his cat, Darkness, has had... 73 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:27,790 A little bit of issue with me. How old is Darkness? 11. So he predates you. 74 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:31,910 Yeah. He acts so differently toward the two of us. Darkness has a jealousy 75 00:04:31,910 --> 00:04:33,830 issue. He wants Steve all for himself. 76 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:37,910 Look, I may be in the minority. I don't believe in cat jealousy. I haven't met 77 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:41,210 Darkness yet, but it seems to me that we're dealing with a bad case of human 78 00:04:41,210 --> 00:04:44,130 projection. What are some of Darkness's bad behaviors? 79 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:48,370 A couple years ago, I was sitting on the couch. He forced himself next to me. 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,640 swatted at me, and he threw blood in deep. So has that made it so that you're 81 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,580 just sort of like this with him all the time? Yeah, I kind of try to keep our 82 00:04:55,580 --> 00:04:59,520 distance from each other. I would think she moved in yesterday, not seven years 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,960 ago. I mean, to be so traumatized that the cat hasn't even done anything in a 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,740 couple years tells me we got a long road ahead of us. 85 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:09,620 My major issue with him is that he doesn't let us sleep at night. 86 00:05:09,850 --> 00:05:11,610 Say I wanted to lay spooning Laura. 87 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:15,450 Well, darkness won't have that. He'll jump up on the bed and he starts clawing 88 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:18,630 at my back. And if that doesn't work, then he jumps out of the bed and goes 89 00:05:18,630 --> 00:05:19,750 like bang the closet door. 90 00:05:23,850 --> 00:05:27,590 Rattle the whole house. I'll have to give in, turn toward him. And he wants 91 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:28,610 spooning him. 92 00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:29,830 You have to spoon him. 93 00:05:30,170 --> 00:05:34,290 Okay. What else does he do that is driving you guys to call me? He grooms 94 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:35,910 himself on my pillow specifically. 95 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:38,150 And then he'll throw up on my belongings. 96 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:42,510 So what do you read into that then? That he doesn't like me. Because he pukes on 97 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:43,069 your stuff? 98 00:05:43,070 --> 00:05:44,070 Yeah. 99 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:47,550 What if he hangs out on your pillow because he likes you and that the reason 100 00:05:47,550 --> 00:05:51,390 he's throwing up there is because he just happened to be there? No. There's 101 00:05:51,390 --> 00:05:55,170 of a deep psychology at work here because Laura wants to believe that 102 00:05:55,170 --> 00:05:59,710 he makes and every negative action is directed... At her. What's that doing to 103 00:05:59,710 --> 00:06:03,810 you guys? We just fight over stupid things that darkness does. Do you wind 104 00:06:03,810 --> 00:06:06,650 having to be the one defending? I have to defend darkness a little bit. Right, 105 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:09,790 so that's where the fighting comes from, right? We can't live like this anymore, 106 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:13,670 especially with Fraskel. He's my little baby, and I'm scared that he's going to 107 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:17,710 get hurt. I love him. He's afraid of darkness because darkness charges him? 108 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:24,570 When he hears the word darkness, he kind of gets up. Seriously? Yeah. 109 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:25,950 Darkness. 110 00:06:26,630 --> 00:06:27,630 Darkness. 111 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:34,080 Darkness. Although it was pretty funny, that name carries a lot of negative 112 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,900 weight, and it signals something inside of Rascal. That should be all you need 113 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:41,460 to hear to know that you're doing something wrong in the house. 114 00:06:41,660 --> 00:06:47,760 Okay, so the living room is the area of destruction and violence. This is the 115 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,280 area of annoyance, right? 116 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,560 Yeah. 117 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:53,640 That's loud, man. Do your neighbors ever complain about this? 118 00:06:53,860 --> 00:06:59,090 Yeah. Your dog is now absolutely rubbing every orifice of his body. Look at 119 00:06:59,090 --> 00:07:00,370 that! Look at that! 120 00:07:00,590 --> 00:07:03,250 But that's all in good fun. Oh, my God, what's wrong with you? 121 00:07:03,730 --> 00:07:07,610 Rascal rubbing his body on Laura's pillow means the same thing as Darkness 122 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:09,230 rubbing his body on her pillow. 123 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:10,530 Absolutely nothing. 124 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:13,850 And this is the problem we've got in this house. The dog's the good guy and 125 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:14,850 cat's the bad guy. 126 00:07:15,210 --> 00:07:16,210 Hey, buddy. 127 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:19,570 All right, guys, I want to spend some one -on -one time with Darkness. 128 00:07:19,810 --> 00:07:20,810 Yeah. 129 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:23,110 All right, Mr. Buddy. 130 00:07:24,370 --> 00:07:29,770 Hi. Steve and Laura have built up Darkness's aggressive behavior, so I 131 00:07:29,770 --> 00:07:33,710 see how close could I get to him when approaching him with fear. Here's what I 132 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:34,569 want to try. 133 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:35,730 I'm going to act like Laura. 134 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:39,210 Can we just be friends? Oh. 135 00:07:39,790 --> 00:07:41,810 I do not like the way you're looking at me. 136 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:43,390 Ow. Damn. 137 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:45,250 Oh, man. 138 00:07:45,470 --> 00:07:46,550 That was not necessary. 139 00:07:48,390 --> 00:07:49,390 Okay. 140 00:07:49,590 --> 00:07:50,590 Ow. 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,160 I don't want to be scared, but I am. 142 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:58,440 Please get off my couch. 143 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:02,200 Oh, my Lord. 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,100 Look at that. 145 00:08:05,420 --> 00:08:09,180 My challenge line experiment was pretty successful. I found out that if I 146 00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:14,160 approach darkness with fear, he responded with fear and a claw in my 147 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 is my job. 148 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Cats shed the outside layer of their claws. It's natural and actually 149 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,080 for a cat, but I'd prefer they didn't do it in my hand. 150 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:25,180 All right, listen, I totally forgive you. 151 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,220 How about we do something different, okay? Let me get you a toy here. 152 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,760 What is that? 153 00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:34,820 Hi, doctor. 154 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,039 You need a pet? 155 00:08:38,380 --> 00:08:41,400 Me? If I just move in like we're friends. 156 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:44,039 There, my good boy. 157 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Are we friends now? 158 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Oh, and on that note, how's about we bring in a dog friend? 159 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,380 You want to say hi to darkness? 160 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,920 That's that look. 161 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Oh, hi. 162 00:08:58,180 --> 00:09:00,600 Oh, yeah, you guys are just like mortal enemies. 163 00:09:00,940 --> 00:09:05,840 Dog is not scared of darkness at all. These two do not have that antagonistic 164 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,460 relationship that the humans in this house have ascribed to them. That leads 165 00:09:09,460 --> 00:09:12,940 to believe that the problem is redirected aggression, and that belongs 166 00:09:12,940 --> 00:09:14,240 humans, not on the animals. 167 00:09:14,590 --> 00:09:15,590 Hey, guys. 168 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:20,130 That was interesting because I don't want to freak you out. This can happen 169 00:09:20,130 --> 00:09:25,030 you ask for it. If you approach him with fear, he will respond with fear, and 170 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:28,730 that's what the aggression is. Now, Laura, your relationship with darkness 171 00:09:28,730 --> 00:09:33,250 have to work on. Your homework is largely around forging a new groove. You 172 00:09:33,250 --> 00:09:38,470 haven't been really attacked in a while, but the fear, the trauma that you've 173 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:42,390 experienced with that is what informs your current movements with him. So if 174 00:09:42,390 --> 00:09:44,870 approach him with confidence, He gives you confidence back. 175 00:09:45,130 --> 00:09:47,130 I'll try my best. It's going to be a little scary. 176 00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:51,390 I really hope it works out. If not, then Jackson's going to have to do an 177 00:09:51,390 --> 00:09:52,550 exorcism on our demon. 178 00:09:54,030 --> 00:09:58,710 Now, when it comes to darkness attacking Rascal, my theory is that what you're 179 00:09:58,710 --> 00:10:01,170 seeing mostly is redirected aggression. 180 00:10:01,610 --> 00:10:05,610 Redirected aggression is when you freak him out by trying to get him off the 181 00:10:05,610 --> 00:10:07,650 couch. That's why he goes after the dog. 182 00:10:08,090 --> 00:10:10,930 So your job is exhausting. 183 00:10:11,130 --> 00:10:15,250 So he's not part of that energy that causes darkness to redirect. 184 00:10:15,570 --> 00:10:19,710 I want Rascal to spend some time at a dog park, taking long walks, just so 185 00:10:19,710 --> 00:10:23,370 when he comes home, he doesn't spend the entire time running around and barking. 186 00:10:24,190 --> 00:10:28,690 Next thing is to be able to redefine what you're seeing. It's reducing him as 187 00:10:28,690 --> 00:10:32,050 darkness, puts a cloud over him. So I want you to give him a new name. 188 00:10:32,650 --> 00:10:36,930 I always call him Princess, but that often just makes him more upset. 189 00:10:37,580 --> 00:10:40,920 It's going to be really hard changing his name and changing his identity. 190 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,620 We'll have to think of something to call him. 191 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,220 And finally, we're going to change the darkness, his body clock, okay? The only 192 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:51,720 way to do this is to completely ignore him when you guys go to bed. 193 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:55,680 If you have any issues at all, give me a call, okay? 194 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,420 All right, I'll see you in a few weeks. All right, take care, guys. 195 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,080 I hope Jackson's advice works. I'm a little skeptical. I don't want to think 196 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800 about the alternative, but I don't know how much more I can live like this with 197 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,800 darkness. 198 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,560 All right, I'm here for my second visit with Steve and Laura, their cat, 199 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,100 Darkness, and, of course, their ever -present dog, Rascal. 200 00:11:27,580 --> 00:11:31,440 Now, the last time I was here, I was dealing with a pretty aggressive cat. 201 00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:34,400 my Lord. 202 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:38,760 But we were also dealing with people who were looking at this cat as if he were 203 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,060 the devil himself, and that was a problem, too. 204 00:11:42,940 --> 00:11:47,600 Hey! Now, I took a look at their video homework, and it didn't look too good. 205 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,000 had another night of not being able to sleep very well. 206 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Doesn't like this. 207 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,060 Now, I'm hoping there's a little bit of sunshine lurking behind these stormy 208 00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:02,860 skies, but, you know, I'm not going to hold my breath. 209 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:05,380 Oh, yes. Well, hello, dog. 210 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,580 All right. Let's get right to it. So, what's up? Well, we did your homework. 211 00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:15,600 changed the cat's name. I figured, well, what's the opposite of darkness? Yeah. 212 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,060 And Jedi. 213 00:12:17,260 --> 00:12:18,900 Jedi. I like that. 214 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,900 Let's give them an empowering name. Totally. That works. 215 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:26,420 I had them rename darkness so they could reframe the way they see the cat. 216 00:12:26,910 --> 00:12:31,410 This will allow a fresh start for Jedi and it'll allow Laura to see the cat in 217 00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:35,070 brand new way. That's something that we have been successful on doing, the 218 00:12:35,070 --> 00:12:38,150 homework. So that must mean there's a bunch of stuff that wasn't successful, 219 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:39,230 huh? 220 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:41,370 Yeah, we can get into that. 221 00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:45,430 Last night we had like two hours of sleep. It's almost like the nighttime 222 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:46,950 activity gradually increased. 223 00:12:47,210 --> 00:12:51,470 He'll sit in the corner and stare at us. I'll wake up and he's hovering over me. 224 00:12:51,570 --> 00:12:53,690 I still feel like he's possessed. 225 00:12:58,310 --> 00:13:01,250 If Jedi does anything wrong, he's possessed. 226 00:13:01,510 --> 00:13:02,510 Now that's insane. 227 00:13:02,530 --> 00:13:06,890 To think in a serious way that your cat has a devil in him is just a ledge that 228 00:13:06,890 --> 00:13:10,250 I have to pull her back from because if I don't, I don't even know why I'm here. 229 00:13:10,530 --> 00:13:15,450 You actually believe that his intent is bad. Then it will be. 230 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:17,550 Because he has no way of defending himself. 231 00:13:18,690 --> 00:13:20,730 Is there anything that you would call progress? 232 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:23,170 He hasn't vomited on any of my belongings. 233 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:24,690 So that's really good. 234 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,680 Did you actually believe me when I told you that it wasn't a personal thing? I 235 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:29,960 still think it's a personal thing. 236 00:13:30,820 --> 00:13:35,520 I'm past my breaking point with Jedi. I want to know what Jackson is going to 237 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 tell us to do next because I don't want to live like this anymore. 238 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,660 Hey, buddy, buddy. 239 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:42,780 Hey, Jedi. 240 00:13:44,620 --> 00:13:47,560 Well, that doesn't help. You know what? Let's try something new. 241 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:50,140 Steve, do me a favor, will you? 242 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,080 Will you go and take him for a walk? 243 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:56,080 Not only did I want a little break from Rascal, I also wanted to spend some time 244 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,340 alone with Laura and Jedi. 245 00:13:57,580 --> 00:14:02,180 I'm going to have you sit on that pillow next to him and just sit. 246 00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:03,940 Okay? I'm going to sit on this side. Okay. 247 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:09,980 So, and all we're going to do right now is just sort of sit back. I had one 248 00:14:09,980 --> 00:14:13,760 really important goal, and that was to prove to Laura that her cat is not 249 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,340 possessed. Get as close to him as you can without touch. 250 00:14:18,420 --> 00:14:19,219 Good boy. 251 00:14:19,220 --> 00:14:21,000 Go ahead and present your hand. Just put it down. 252 00:14:22,630 --> 00:14:23,630 Now, 253 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:27,890 the last time I was here, I got beat up pretty bad by Jedi, who was darkness 254 00:14:27,890 --> 00:14:31,910 back then. But the reason that happened was that I approached him with fear, 255 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:35,630 which is what Laura does every single day. Now, if she approaches Jedi from a 256 00:14:35,630 --> 00:14:40,070 completely relaxed and confident place, I'm hoping he's going to respond in an 257 00:14:40,070 --> 00:14:43,790 equally relaxed way. So, Laura, what I want you to do is go in for a pet, come 258 00:14:43,790 --> 00:14:46,930 in from the side, and do it slowly but with intent. 259 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,940 Oh, gosh. I hope he doesn't, like, scratch me. 260 00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:55,820 Oh, gosh. 261 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,480 He was just staring at me. 262 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,920 There it is. 263 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,960 There it is. See? 264 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,320 That was awesome. 265 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:11,700 Good boy. 266 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,760 When Jackson asked me to pet Jedi, I was kind of hesitant because I was scared 267 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,860 that he would attack me. 268 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:20,740 Well, I like that I can pet him right now. 269 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,340 Normally, you couldn't. Like, he would hiss at me and say no. 270 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:26,380 What was that? 271 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,040 Well, I got scared. I thought he was going to do it. Okay. Listen, this whole 272 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,120 thing has to begin and end with trust. Yeah. And if you don't trust him to sit 273 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,160 with you, that's a big deal. 274 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,360 Now, Laura's really prone to this kind of behavior. I've seen it before, and I 275 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,179 saw it today. 276 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:44,380 If she approaches him with fear, at some point, Jedi's going to attack her. And 277 00:15:44,380 --> 00:15:45,660 then, I've lost her. 278 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:47,060 Let's get to your homework. 279 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:49,460 So, let's start with quiet time. 280 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,860 sitting next to him, taking a nap, doing whatever it is, so that you're inviting 281 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:57,300 him to just be quiet with you. It's something that never happens that I get 282 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:02,960 sit with Jedi and pet him, so we'll see on the homework if we can continue that 283 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,120 bond. If you think he hates you, he hates you. We have to be able to blank 284 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,280 this whole thing and start again. 285 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,180 The next part of the homework is the catification part of things, okay? So 286 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:14,180 on one second. 287 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,640 So, Cat Tree, okay? 288 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,100 Very simple. The cool thing is we've got two different levels. When you're 289 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:25,600 playing with him, you can encourage him to just jump up, find his place that 290 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,720 he's comfortable. I wanted them to have two different cat trees in their world. 291 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,580 I presented one of them, which I want them to put by the couch. And my hope is 292 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:36,800 that when they're on the couch, Jedi finds his place and isn't roaming around 293 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,280 much. Finally, Steve, keep taking the dog to a dog park. Take him for long 294 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,160 walks. Just hire him out. All right, guys, I'm going to cut out. If you have 295 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,540 questions, please call me. Good luck to you. 296 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:53,620 I hope the next time that Jackson meets Jedi that the Force has awoken and he is 297 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:56,720 a happy, friendly cat that is approachable by anyone. 298 00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:58,840 If not, then Jedi is out. 299 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:02,820 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 300 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,280 Jackson, I need your help. How can I get my dog and cat to get along? 301 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,160 The answer, right after the break. 302 00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:18,190 And now it's time for a kitty bit. Jackson, I need your help. How can I get 303 00:17:18,190 --> 00:17:19,329 dog and cat to get along? 304 00:17:19,650 --> 00:17:23,450 I'm glad you asked, Sue. I would go for an uncovered litter box because if you 305 00:17:23,450 --> 00:17:27,290 uncover that box, cats have escape routes. If the dog is coming, the cat 306 00:17:27,290 --> 00:17:28,249 head for the hills. 307 00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:32,250 Second thing is, feed your cat up on something, like a table, because they 308 00:17:32,250 --> 00:17:35,710 to have a fighting chance to eat their dinner before the dog comes for that. 309 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:39,790 Third of all, make sure you're training your dog so that cat can walk across the 310 00:17:39,790 --> 00:17:43,900 floor. in safety without being chased because the dog thinks the cat's a toy. 311 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:48,000 Remember, you can tell the cat it's a safe world, but then you've got to be 312 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,040 to cash that dog check. 313 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,880 All right, I'm here for my final visit with Steve, Laura, and the cat formerly 314 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,380 known as Darkness, Jedi. 315 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,640 The first time I visited them, Laura was convinced that Jedi was an evil demon. 316 00:18:04,820 --> 00:18:05,820 Off the couch. 317 00:18:06,669 --> 00:18:10,930 hell -bent on their destruction, while their dog Rascal was this perfect little 318 00:18:10,930 --> 00:18:14,150 angel. Now, I've had my work cut out for me this whole time with this couple, 319 00:18:14,210 --> 00:18:17,930 and I just hope that when I get in there today, I'll see that the work paid off. 320 00:18:18,590 --> 00:18:19,429 Hey, Laura. 321 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:21,010 Hey. Well, hi. 322 00:18:21,930 --> 00:18:23,030 Hey, Bubba. 323 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:24,430 How are we? 324 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:29,250 Oh, man, I was not expecting to come in and say hi to you. Now, every time that 325 00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:33,390 I've visited in the past, Jedi's been hiding. The fact that he is social 326 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:37,490 enough... To be here, to hang out, signifies a lot of really cool stuff. 327 00:18:37,810 --> 00:18:40,810 Now, the big question is, are you guys getting any sleep? 328 00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:49,950 The first couple days were really awful, and I just was like, no, I'm just going 329 00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:52,990 to ignore him. He would come and try to get in my face, and then it was 330 00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:56,530 scratching at the door, and I'm just going to ignore him. And then he went 331 00:18:56,530 --> 00:18:59,990 shut himself in the bathroom so that he could bang the doors together. 332 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,380 He kind of just gave up over time. He was just like, she's not getting up. 333 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,700 I'm just going to have to sit here and go to sleep. 334 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Fantastic. Cats can be very persistent when they're trying to get you to resume 335 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,080 old patterns. But Laura didn't give in, and Jedi learned that his old tricks 336 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:24,180 weren't going to work anymore. What was it from the homework that allows you to 337 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:25,180 sleep now? 338 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,540 I would say the fact that we ignore any of the bad behaviors and the pet tree. 339 00:19:30,990 --> 00:19:35,450 Yeah. And taking Rascal on lots of trips to the dog park. Well, it looks like 340 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:38,970 things are going pretty well. But most importantly, do you feel safe now? 341 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:40,410 Yeah, I do. 342 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:42,130 Aha! That's fantastic. 343 00:19:42,530 --> 00:19:44,630 I have been collecting all your video. 344 00:19:45,070 --> 00:19:47,750 And time to watch it. Let's take a look. 345 00:19:48,370 --> 00:19:49,370 Ooh! 346 00:19:50,170 --> 00:19:51,170 It's a treat. 347 00:19:51,470 --> 00:19:52,630 Aren't you sweet? 348 00:19:53,290 --> 00:19:55,150 You talk to your cat. 349 00:19:58,050 --> 00:19:59,050 Nice. 350 00:19:59,310 --> 00:20:00,410 Oh, get out. 351 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:03,590 Oh, my God. 352 00:20:04,350 --> 00:20:05,390 How cool. 353 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:12,450 Oh, no. You're kidding me. 354 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:15,450 Oh, my God. That's the sweetest thing ever. 355 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:20,410 Yeah. Oh, that's so great, guys. 356 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:23,070 There's so much good stuff on here. 357 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:28,260 There's so much that I'm just kind of bursting with right now because I know 358 00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:30,720 that you guys are on such a good track. 359 00:20:31,020 --> 00:20:35,220 I feel like my bond with Jedi now is so much stronger than it's ever been 360 00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:38,940 before. I used to think that Jedi was jealous of Laura. 361 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:43,780 Now I'm jealous of Jedi going after Laura all the time. I'm like, what 362 00:20:43,780 --> 00:20:44,780 to my baby cat? 363 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:46,500 Hi. 364 00:20:47,260 --> 00:20:48,260 Hi. 365 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,420 Killer, man. Look what you've built, Laura. 366 00:20:52,940 --> 00:20:53,940 Look what you built. 367 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,000 He's never been just like, oh, let me just be a friendly cat. 368 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,280 I love him. 369 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:02,900 Yay! 370 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:07,780 He's my cat, and Rascal's my dog, and I love them both. 371 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:11,800 Nothing is a nicer thing for a cat guy to hear than that. 372 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:18,560 This whole experience has helped myself claim Jedi as mine, and in turn, Jedi 373 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,700 now can claim me as his human. 374 00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:24,980 Through Jackson's teaching, I have a changed cat and a happy girlfriend. 375 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:27,280 So, Laura, I have something for you. 376 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:39,020 What do you think? That's cute. Thank you. I present to you. Thank 377 00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:39,899 you. 378 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:42,660 It speaks the truth. I love my baby Jedi. 379 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:44,920 Pretty disappointed that I didn't get one. 380 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,260 And there's our boy. 381 00:21:51,820 --> 00:21:52,820 That's it. 382 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:57,720 Cats are all about energy. When I first met these guys, the energy was chaotic 383 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,860 and polarized. 384 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Now, by changing their attitude towards the cat, they've created positive 385 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,540 energy. And by exercising the dog on a regular basis, they've gotten rid of the 386 00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:07,540 chaotic energy. 387 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:08,579 Bye. Bye. 388 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:12,100 Now, Jedi is part of a harmonious, loving family. 389 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,620 We have four cats. 390 00:22:20,030 --> 00:22:24,090 We cannot trust them. They cannot be together because they will kill each 391 00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:27,250 We've tried everything that we can try. Nothing works. 392 00:22:27,490 --> 00:22:30,150 If we can't make this work, boy cats have to go. 393 00:22:40,290 --> 00:22:41,870 Malice. Malice. No! 394 00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:43,490 No! 395 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,200 So I'm heading over to see Mark and Catalina and their four cats. 396 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,720 The girl cats in this situation are beating up the boy cats on a daily 397 00:22:56,980 --> 00:22:59,640 The cats are tearing each other up, and I'm just afraid they're going to tear 398 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,700 this marriage up as well. 399 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,500 I'm Mark. I'm Catalina, and we have been together for eight years. 400 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:11,660 So we have four cats, two girls, Kamal and Mipo, and two boys, Norman and 401 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:15,860 Sebastian. The combination of the four cats is not a good combination. 402 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,240 Back when we just had the two cats, life wasn't great. It wasn't until we 403 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,400 brought the other two cats in here that things really got crazy. 404 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:27,560 The four cats cannot be together, ever, because we cannot trust them that they 405 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,560 will not kill each other. 406 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,160 Mark, 407 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:39,460 he wasn't so excited about having them. They really never liked each other that 408 00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:43,540 much. The boys are standoffish. When I pick them up, they don't like it. 409 00:23:43,540 --> 00:23:44,540 scratch at me. 410 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,980 I got a big scratch yesterday where post -fight I was getting another cat out of 411 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:57,120 the way. Unless we keep them locked in completely separate places, something 412 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,120 happens. 413 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:06,000 Our solution to have a glimpse of a normal life is to keep the cats apart. 414 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,560 But that is not a solution. 415 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,460 It's not a solution. 416 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:11,400 And we're sleeping in different bedrooms. 417 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:13,880 This is where I sleep with the boys at night. 418 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,880 And the girls will either be free or with my husband. 419 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,200 It's a nightmare. 420 00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:23,020 No! We are stressing each other. Sometimes in the mornings we don't want 421 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:26,100 to each other. We can't always focus on the cat's needs. 422 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,920 We all have needs in this family. 423 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,440 It's clearly not a sustainable arrangement. 424 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:31,819 Nobody's happy. 425 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:36,100 And if we can't make this work with Jackson, then... 426 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:40,500 It's really our last option, which means, boy, cats have to go. 427 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,620 I know it would break your heart. 428 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,900 The part that kills me is their future, like what will happen. 429 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,900 Sending the cat back will be so painful. 430 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:01,380 Hey, let's talk cats. 431 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,020 Sounds great. Well, now, where's your husband? Well, he's working. 432 00:25:04,650 --> 00:25:08,830 So I walk in to talk to Catalina and Mark and no Mark. And that's a problem 433 00:25:08,830 --> 00:25:11,430 right off the bat because I know we're going to have a lot of work to do in 434 00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:14,350 home and we can't do it with just one partner. We have four cats. 435 00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:16,310 Yes. Two boys, two girls. Correct. 436 00:25:16,530 --> 00:25:17,810 The girls are Meatball. 437 00:25:18,010 --> 00:25:21,710 And Tamale. And Tamale. And the boys are Snowman and... Sebastian. 438 00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:23,030 Tell me a little bit about the girls. 439 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:27,210 So the girls were about four months old when we got them. And we have been with 440 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:30,470 them for about two years and a half. So where'd you get the boys from? The 441 00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:31,610 regional owner of the cats. 442 00:25:32,090 --> 00:25:34,190 took the cats to the vet and left them there. 443 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:37,510 And they had been there for nine months in a cage. 444 00:25:37,730 --> 00:25:41,570 They were in a cage for nine months? How old were they? They are now like a 445 00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:45,070 year. So most of their life was spent in a cage. 446 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:49,050 Wow. You can't imagine what it's like to be Sebastian and Snowman. I mean, their 447 00:25:49,050 --> 00:25:51,930 entire formative period was spent in a cage. 448 00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:55,410 They had no social life to speak of with other cats or with other humans. 449 00:25:55,630 --> 00:25:58,930 And that puts a dent in their development that I'm not so sure we can 450 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,760 The fighting among the cats has affected their lives tremendously, from fighting 451 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,600 with my husband, from having to sleep. 452 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,340 Are you guys sleeping separately? 453 00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:09,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know. 454 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,980 Once the couples have gone to that place, I know they're in different 455 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:17,580 they have no level of intimacy because of the problem in their home. When it 456 00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:21,120 comes to the concept of rehoming the boys, is that okay with you? No. 457 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,880 I'm not ready to give up. 458 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:25,860 Was Mark for or against? 459 00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:27,249 The boy's coming. 460 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:29,230 He wasn't so excited about having them. 461 00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:30,610 Who's his favorite? What would he say? 462 00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:34,630 Tamale. If you had to pick one cat that is the instigator? 463 00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:36,830 Tamale. Isn't that interesting? 464 00:26:37,210 --> 00:26:40,710 Is Mark saying, let's just give up? Correct. 465 00:26:41,550 --> 00:26:42,930 We got our work cut out for us. 466 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:46,430 If this doesn't work, it will be very difficult and very painful. 467 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:47,940 Here's the kitchen. 468 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,740 Okay, then we have cats. And we have some cats there. This is Somali. Somali, 469 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:52,740 the red color. 470 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,120 So he's cornered already. 471 00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:55,920 There you go. Let's go this way. 472 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,140 Oh, there they are. Okay, we don't want to break this up. I've got to be able to 473 00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:00,959 see this. 474 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,860 That's Sebastian there. Now you see how Sebastian is acting like prey, right? 475 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,820 See how frozen he is? And as he starts to move, see, now she's getting 476 00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:10,820 interested. 477 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,080 See? 478 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,380 Now, Sebastian knows what he's doing. You see? He's turning over on his side. 479 00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:18,470 He's saying, I'm not a threat. 480 00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:20,530 Now she's done. 481 00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:22,530 Oh, no, no, no. There they go. Come on. 482 00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:27,170 From what I'm seeing, Tamale's not trying to assert dominance over 483 00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:28,170 all. She's hunting. 484 00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:31,530 He acted like prey. She acted like a predator. It's really pretty black and 485 00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:32,429 white. 486 00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:33,430 OK, close the door. 487 00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:38,390 Stop right here. Yeah, yeah. We have the boys, the girls. 488 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:41,450 So see how he goes up? She goes up, right? 489 00:27:41,890 --> 00:27:43,390 So now he's trapped up here. 490 00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:45,530 And now you've got Sebastian. 491 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,439 I want to go too. 492 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000 No, see, he can't. And now he's surrounded. 493 00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:55,940 What we have here is not a male versus female issue. What we have here is a 494 00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:58,200 clear -cut case of prey versus predator. 495 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920 The boys are acting like prey, so they're being hunted and attacked by the 496 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,480 girls. Plain and simple. So we took them into another room to work on that. And 497 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,380 Sebastian immediately disappeared. 498 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:11,620 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Come on. I know. But Snowman didn't, 499 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,880 which gives me the opportunity to get to know Snowman. 500 00:28:14,699 --> 00:28:16,800 This boy, you see his challenge line? 501 00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:22,900 Mm -hmm. Right here. Mm -hmm. Right? You get him to jump on this here. 502 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:25,740 We have a whole new story for him. 503 00:28:26,140 --> 00:28:29,760 He can come out and take the middle of the room. What that tells me about a cat 504 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,040 is that he has confidence. 505 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,980 Look at him. He so badly wants to. 506 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Almost there, buddy. 507 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560 Oh, God. 508 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,140 Good boy. Good boy. 509 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:47,630 It is so huge. The snowman came out and met the challenge line that I set for 510 00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:50,190 him. Sebastian, on the other hand, he's another story. 511 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:53,330 But, you know, I... Hey. Hey, how are you? 512 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:56,510 Good. I'm Mark. I'm Jack. Good to meet you, man. Good to meet you. Thank you. 513 00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:59,350 how has this entire problem been affecting you guys? 514 00:28:59,550 --> 00:29:01,750 Well, it certainly has a lot of stress to our relationship. 515 00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:04,950 Sometimes we argue about it. Sometimes I get angry. 516 00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:07,470 So tell me emotionally, where are you? 517 00:29:07,730 --> 00:29:08,850 We're really at the end. 518 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,160 This is our last opportunity to have the cats work together. And if it doesn't 519 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,560 work out, then I think we need to rehome the boys. 520 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 No, I'm not ready to give up. 521 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,080 They are our cats. 522 00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:24,120 I mean, the future is uncertain if they cannot stay here. What is going to 523 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,440 happen to them? And that will totally kill me. 524 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,880 The tension between Mark and Catalina is clear. Though Mark knows getting rid of 525 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,180 the boys would break Catalina's heart, he's not going to be moved on this 526 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,740 I have to get all of these cats properly socialized and keep this family 527 00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:43,020 together. All right, guys. So I want you to do sight swapping. Every hour the 528 00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:44,840 boys spend with you, the girls spend with you. 529 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,100 Sight swapping is simply switching environments with the cats so they can 530 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,660 know one another without actually being in the same room. 531 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:55,460 Now, this is the first step towards getting all four cats being able to 532 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:57,260 in the same space. Let's talk about play. 533 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:02,080 First job is yours, Mark. You're going to have the boys, and the boys need to 534 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,640 achieve that ownership. 535 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,480 This piece of homework is crucial. It's going to help the boys' mojo come out 536 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200 while getting them to explore the house, and at the same time help Mark develop 537 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,460 a bond with them, which he currently doesn't have. 538 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:17,930 And for you, Catalina, girl play time. I want them to really get that energy 539 00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:22,170 out. Kamal has got predatory instincts that are not being drained away. That's 540 00:30:22,170 --> 00:30:23,170 your job, okay? 541 00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:27,550 Next time I come back here, the sleeping apart thing cannot happen anymore. 542 00:30:28,050 --> 00:30:29,050 Groovy? Yes. 543 00:30:29,170 --> 00:30:32,870 Okay. Great meeting you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. All right. I'll 544 00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:34,970 see you in a few weeks, okay? All right. Awesome. Thank you. All right, guys. 545 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:35,679 Bye -bye. 546 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600 I'm super hopeful. I'm super willing to do everything. 547 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,180 I'm hopeful, but I'm also apprehensive because we don't want to get our hopes 548 00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:44,920 up. If it fails, we're out of options. 549 00:30:56,580 --> 00:31:00,460 I'm here for my second visit with Mark and Catalina and their cats Snowman, 550 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,480 Sebastian, Meatball, and Tamale. And the last time I was here, we were dealing 551 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,350 with... Serious cat -on -cat aggression. 552 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:08,190 There was a lot of problems. 553 00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:11,710 So I took a look at their video homework. I saw Mark's been playing with 554 00:31:11,710 --> 00:31:15,430 boys and Catalina with the girls, and they've been sight -swapping and getting 555 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:16,590 the cats used to each other since. 556 00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:20,310 We're in a really tough spot right now. I mean, Mark can't live with four 557 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:24,270 constantly feeding cats under the same roof, and Catalina refuses to let the 558 00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:28,110 boys go. I hope I can get these boys socialized properly and keep this family 559 00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:29,850 together. So tell me, what's been going on? 560 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,520 Where to start? 561 00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:36,240 Uh -oh. I don't like the sound of that. Let's start by the most exciting part, 562 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,460 which is the snowman. He is doing amazing. Is he really? Amazing, amazing, 563 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:45,560 amazing. So much more confident, so much more relaxed. So basically what we had 564 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,200 seen last time with him coming out and playing more of that. Yes. I like that. 565 00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,400 I've been playing with the boys every day. 566 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,340 Good. But Sebastian is still very timid. What do you think the reason for that 567 00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,440 is? We don't know. 568 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,880 It's great that the homework has paid off with Snowman. A cat with confidence 569 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,320 will not look like prey to the others. But if I can't help Sebastian find his 570 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800 mojo as well, Meepo and Tamale are still going to see him as prey, and the 571 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,020 fights are still going to continue. 572 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:16,700 How are you feeling in terms of the sake of having to rehome somebody? 573 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,620 There's encouragement and there's frustration together. We're encouraged 574 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:25,720 see progress in three of the cats, but unfortunately it's an all -or -nothing 575 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,920 situation. And it will totally, totally break my heart to send them somewhere. 576 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,020 The situation managed to become even more complicated, and I wasn't sure what 577 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:40,420 make of it quite yet. I just knew that I needed to see Sebastian and assess his 578 00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:42,420 condition. Where's my boy at? 579 00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:44,320 Well, there you are. 580 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,300 Hi, Sebastian. 581 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:49,940 He's like a rock. 582 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,460 Yeah, he's petrified, yeah. 583 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,320 Where did this blanket even come from? Well, I put it there, yeah. 584 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,620 So he could be covered. Yes. 585 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,260 I saw Sebastian in the bathtub under a blanket. And when I took that blanket 586 00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:06,700 away, the portrait of fear that was Sebastian was pretty shocking. 587 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,600 So I decided to focus on the positive, which was Snowman's incredible progress, 588 00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:15,600 and start mixing things up between him and Tamale, one of the girls. 589 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,720 Okay, our goal here is to have Snowman and Tamale exist together here in the 590 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,460 same room. We have the cats in basically opposite sides of the room, and we're 591 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:29,860 going to occupy them. Name of the game is, how long can we just keep them in 592 00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:34,260 here without anything breaking out? These cats only know life as boys on one 593 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:38,100 side, girls on the other. Now we need to break up this dynamic by building new 594 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,460 relationships, one co -ed pair at a time. 595 00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:44,880 Oh, what are we doing? 596 00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:47,060 I do not want her focusing in on him. 597 00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:51,800 So I thought to Molly, come up to Snowman and kind of corner him. That's 598 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,800 we get into trouble. 599 00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:58,060 If you can get her, even with a toy, to turn her head that way, we're great. 600 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,600 You got her going right now, man. Fantastic. 601 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Great. Good move. 602 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,280 There you go. Exactly right. 603 00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:13,219 Now, get her to move. 604 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:19,730 If she takes one step in that direction, I'm psyched. This exercise is all about 605 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:20,730 redirecting focus. 606 00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:24,690 And there we go. 607 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:29,389 This is just fantastic. She's got her back totally turned to snow. 608 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:34,690 So now the goal is let's get him out a little bit. Let me take over for you for 609 00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:38,929 just a sec. Now we've got Tamale occupied, but the longer that snowman 610 00:34:38,929 --> 00:34:43,360 under that tree, acting like a scared rabbit, the more of a chance is that 611 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,280 Tamale's going to turn and chase him. And then everything falls apart. 612 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,020 Let me see if I can get him. Good boy. 613 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,179 There we go. 614 00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:52,719 There's my boy. 615 00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:54,560 There's my boy. 616 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:01,400 Seeing Snowman come and play and don't pay attention to Tamale at all, huge. 617 00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:03,200 We're so excited about that. 618 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,060 Talk to me about, are we all sleeping in this room now? Mm -hmm. All the time? 619 00:35:09,879 --> 00:35:11,080 Not all the time. 620 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,240 Most of the time we are. There have been a couple of instances when we haven't 621 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,240 because of the cat. 622 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,620 The cat can't be trusted. 623 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 The situation still isn't where it needs to be. 624 00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:24,780 Now, I've got a surprise for you guys. I will be right back. Okay. 625 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,720 Come on in. Hey, guys. 626 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:30,120 I'd like to introduce you to Kate Benjamin. 627 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,450 Hi. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 628 00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:37,690 And if you know catification at all, you know it's about making your house into 629 00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:42,030 a really appealing place for you and your cat. We are going to catify this 630 00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:43,830 in a big way, okay? 631 00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:46,770 Mark, I know you got an opinion, man. I know you do. 632 00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:51,330 What is it? I mean, I'm kind of a minimalist guy when it comes to 633 00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:54,670 but I think that you can have a lot without looking like it's a lot. 634 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,900 And this room is so important, being the bedroom, for you both to coexist, 635 00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:01,760 right? Kate, I know you've got a lot of work to do, and you guys are going to 636 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,380 have some homework to do. Awesome. Let's go out there, and I'll give it to you, 637 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,379 okay? 638 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:08,900 First of all, what I'm going to want is couples playtime, which is exactly what 639 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:11,960 we just did, but I want you to expand it out to different groups. 640 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:13,260 Boy, girl, boy, girl. 641 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,800 We saw today that Snowman and Tamale can be fine in the same room together. 642 00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:21,700 They need to repeat the exercise every day with these two, and also separately 643 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,300 with Sebastian and Meatball. 644 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,660 And the next time I'm here, we can get all four of them together without a war 645 00:36:26,660 --> 00:36:27,618 breaking out. 646 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:28,620 Fingers crossed. 647 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,760 Mark, been kind of quiet through this whole thing. How are you feeling right 648 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,760 now? 649 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:36,020 I feel confident and I feel ready to take on the challenge. 650 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,000 But we're concerned a little bit that Sebastian isn't coming along enough. 651 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,900 And it's certainly added a lot of stress to our relationship. 652 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,320 Don't get discouraged. 653 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,800 It's lots of work, but let's keep working, okay? 654 00:36:48,490 --> 00:36:51,530 All the cats really need to progress and be in a better place. 655 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:54,570 Or else we're back to square one, which is finding a new home for the boys. 656 00:36:59,310 --> 00:36:59,710 All 657 00:36:59,710 --> 00:37:07,270 right, 658 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:10,290 I'm here for my third and final visit with Mark and Catalina and their four 659 00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:11,290 cats. 660 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:15,530 Now, the first time I was here, it was total chaos with the girls, Meatball and 661 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:19,950 Tamale, hunting and attacking the boys, Sebastian and Snowman, every chance they 662 00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:24,050 had. So, I'm taking a look at their video homework, and couples' playtime 663 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:25,050 to be going well. 664 00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:26,630 Also, 665 00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:34,950 Kate's catification is a work of art, giving four cats plenty of room to do 666 00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:37,910 their thing without infringing on anyone else's space. 667 00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:42,610 And I saw Meatball and Sebastian within a few inches of each other. I hope it 668 00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:46,050 didn't end badly because the option of rehoming the boys is still on the table. 669 00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:50,590 Tell me, since the last time I was here, have there been any full -on fights 670 00:37:50,590 --> 00:37:51,590 between the cats? 671 00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:55,690 Nothing. 672 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:58,350 That's a starting place. Fantastic. 673 00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:02,550 So I had you guys mixing up the couples. How did that progress? 674 00:38:02,850 --> 00:38:07,190 I think the best part has been Meatball and Sebastian. 675 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,920 We think they're like this close to be friends. Friends? 676 00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:15,020 Yeah. Few changes from day one to today. 677 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600 The power of play, it has been so clear. 678 00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:24,760 Now Sebastian is the one that is like not hiding. He's not afraid anymore. 679 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,078 Good. 680 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,920 Today, we're going to get all four cats in the same room. 681 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:32,820 So these guys have been working on couples play time with one boy cat and 682 00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:34,540 girl cat over the last couple of weeks. 683 00:38:34,910 --> 00:38:37,910 But today is going to be the first time that we're going to get all four cats in 684 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:41,590 the room at the same time. You guys ready? I am ready for it. 685 00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:44,010 And I am worried about it. Yeah, me too. Let's go. 686 00:38:44,330 --> 00:38:48,310 I got to see this. And more importantly, Mark needs to see this if the boys have 687 00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:52,150 any chance of remaining in this house. Now, the cool part is we've got Meatball 688 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:55,850 and Tamale here in the room, both of whom seem pretty relaxed. 689 00:38:56,350 --> 00:38:58,270 Let's have you start working with the girls. Sure. 690 00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:59,970 And I'll bring the snow. 691 00:39:00,350 --> 00:39:03,830 The girls were already comfortable in the room, so I sent Catalina out to 692 00:39:03,830 --> 00:39:06,950 the boys in one by one, starting with Snowman. 693 00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:12,950 And Snowman made a beeline for the corner with Tamale Fast on his heels. 694 00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:19,610 But this time, rather than lay down and look like prey, Snowman hisses at 695 00:39:19,610 --> 00:39:23,310 Tamale. Now, this is a strong display of confidence. Snowman's telling Tamale, 696 00:39:23,410 --> 00:39:24,450 don't mess with me. 697 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,560 Okay, see, here's where I step in. 698 00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:35,980 I'm the human diffusion post here, right? 699 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,920 You see what happens the second I walk in front of Tamale. She's not as drawn 700 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,380 into him. She's lost interest in Snowman because I'm distracting her with a toy. 701 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,320 The whole idea here is movement. 702 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:52,040 Basis is our enemy. Yes, I'm acting as the human diffusion post in the middle 703 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,320 the room, more like a traffic cop. But as the cats learn how traffic works... 704 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,660 They're not going to need the cop. Once she's not after him, Snowman relaxes 705 00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,420 too. She's like, there's no payoff in this for me. Awesome. 706 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,680 And off she goes. 707 00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:10,820 Yeah. With Snowman safe from Tamale's unwanted advances, it's time to focus on 708 00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:11,860 shy little Sebastian. 709 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,780 Hello, little Sebastian. 710 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,640 What's that? 711 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,580 Sebastian does feel comfortable. 712 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:19,140 The last time I was here. 713 00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:22,770 He was so scared, I thought his heart was going to come out of his chest. But 714 00:40:22,770 --> 00:40:26,670 giving him this vertical space, he does feel protected. 715 00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:31,090 You know, the great thing about the catification is Sebastian coming out 716 00:40:31,090 --> 00:40:35,210 that room, getting on a shelf and finding safety up in the world, that was 717 00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:39,870 deal. This is probably the first time that he discovers that being high saves 718 00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:40,870 him. Yeah. 719 00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:45,030 Thinking back to where we were before compared to where we are now, the change 720 00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:46,050 has really been tremendous. 721 00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:47,830 It used to be I couldn't pick up Sebastian. 722 00:40:50,110 --> 00:40:52,670 Sebastian's the one that clawed me, but we're now best friends. 723 00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:55,970 You are best friends? Yeah, Sebastian comes to me for play. 724 00:40:56,250 --> 00:41:00,570 So no more getting clawed? No. In terms of the first time that all four of these 725 00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:03,950 cats are in the same room together, pretty remarkable. Watching things come 726 00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:06,150 together today was intensely satisfying. 727 00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:11,330 both on the human side and the cat side. Now, I know the job was really hard for 728 00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:14,710 you, Mark. The first day that I was here, you were the one talking about, 729 00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:17,850 if this keeps up, we're going to have to find another home for the boys. Where 730 00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:18,850 are you now? 731 00:41:19,530 --> 00:41:22,410 Well, we no longer have conversations about rehoming the boy. 732 00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:25,910 We used to talk about it every day, and I don't think we've mentioned it for 733 00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:26,910 quite a while now. Really? 734 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:30,310 Absolutely. That must feel nice. Yeah. I got to ask you, because we're standing 735 00:41:30,310 --> 00:41:33,930 here by the bed here, are we here now? Are we all here? 736 00:41:34,210 --> 00:41:35,210 We are here. 737 00:41:35,390 --> 00:41:37,510 Good. No sleep to be suffered. No sleep to be suffered. 738 00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:39,250 Then my job is done. 739 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:40,750 Thank you so much. 740 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:44,310 And we're so lucky we were able to work with you. Yeah. You really were our last 741 00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:47,450 hope. Thank you so much. Through this process and the homework that we were 742 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:50,210 given, we were able to rebuild the relationships between the cats. 743 00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:54,530 And in turn, we rebuilt our relationship as well. The boys are part of the 744 00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:55,348 family now. 745 00:41:55,350 --> 00:41:56,990 I couldn't even think about rehoming them. 746 00:41:57,310 --> 00:42:00,670 Jackson, we are eternally grateful for your collaboration. 747 00:42:01,090 --> 00:42:02,090 Thank you very much. 748 00:42:04,270 --> 00:42:08,330 Now you can find out how the cats I've helped are doing today. Check out my new 749 00:42:08,330 --> 00:42:13,290 series, How Do You Like Meow, available only online at AnimalPlanet .com. 64325

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