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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,019 Monty, did you do this? Our cat Monty eats everything. 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:07,340 I can't wear this. You know, just some tax documents. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,880 No big deal. My t -shirt, my underwear, my bras, all part of his diet. 4 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:14,360 It is a strain on the relationship. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:20,040 We argue about her leaving stuff out. One day he might eat something that 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,460 doesn't come out. 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,480 If Monty dies, my husband will never forgive me. 8 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:31,070 Jesus. Thumbelina. 9 00:00:31,430 --> 00:00:33,070 Our problem child is Thumbelina. 10 00:00:33,710 --> 00:00:36,230 Thumbelina. I run a cupcake business out of my house. 11 00:00:36,590 --> 00:00:38,450 The cat's fighting is definitely affecting my business. 12 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:39,830 Get off the counter or I'm going to bake. 13 00:00:40,090 --> 00:00:43,770 There have been times where I have burned my cupcakes because I have to 14 00:00:43,770 --> 00:00:45,050 them from fighting with each other. 15 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:50,350 We have four cats. Tiggerbell and Thumbelina used to be best friends, and 16 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:53,990 brought Tigger and Sahara into the house, and that's when the fighting 17 00:00:55,810 --> 00:00:57,850 God. It's causing us fighting. 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 I don't think I could live this way if it caused me too much stress. 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,440 I don't want to give any of my cats. 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,640 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 21 00:01:10,860 --> 00:01:14,340 I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,620 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 23 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:24,180 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,020 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,100 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,020 When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to 27 00:01:38,020 --> 00:01:41,840 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,580 her. I'm their last hope. 29 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:53,440 Are you all right? Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,440 have one. 31 00:02:00,669 --> 00:02:02,010 Monty, did you do this? 32 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:05,910 Nope. This is disgusting, Monty. 33 00:02:16,910 --> 00:02:20,730 I'm on my way to go see Amy and Marco and their cat, Monty, and Monty's got an 34 00:02:20,730 --> 00:02:24,550 appetite for destruction. I mean, he will chew up anything and everything 35 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:25,810 not nailed down in their house. 36 00:02:26,250 --> 00:02:27,250 Freshly chewed. 37 00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:31,740 Amy is so sick and tired of changing her lifestyle around the cat, and Marco 38 00:02:31,740 --> 00:02:33,480 just wishes she'd be a little bit more helpful. 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,440 It is one huge mess, and I'm going to go over there and try to help clean it up. 40 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:40,980 I'm Amy. I'm Marco. 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,240 And we've been together for two and a half years, and we just got married. 42 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,100 Our cat, Monty, is about four years old. He's a domestic short hair. And he 43 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:52,750 eats. Everything. 44 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:54,870 This is disgusting, Monty. 45 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:56,990 My t -shirt. 46 00:02:57,350 --> 00:03:00,210 Freshly chewed. My underwear. My bras. 47 00:03:00,610 --> 00:03:05,590 Are you serious, Monty? Did you do this? I can't wear this in public. 48 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:07,090 It's all part of his diet. 49 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:08,470 Hey. 50 00:03:08,510 --> 00:03:12,710 Ever since he was a little kitten, I noticed that Monty had a chewing and 51 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:16,250 issue. What I eventually started doing was picking up my stuff and putting it 52 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:20,670 away. And then after two and a half years, when Amy came to live with me, it 53 00:03:20,670 --> 00:03:24,650 interesting because she tends to leave stuff out and he gets into it. Brand new 54 00:03:24,650 --> 00:03:26,510 towels, completely destroyed. 55 00:03:26,910 --> 00:03:29,770 He's a neat freak, and I am not a neat freak. 56 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:32,090 You know, just some tax documents. 57 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:34,850 No big deal. Didn't need those for the IRA. 58 00:03:35,570 --> 00:03:36,570 It's a problem. 59 00:03:37,730 --> 00:03:41,950 It is the string on the relationship. We argue about... 60 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,900 We're leaving stuff out. Right, but at the same time, I don't want to live in a 61 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:52,340 place that's completely devoid of all decoration. I want pillows on our couch. 62 00:03:52,340 --> 00:03:56,040 want to be able to have sheets in our guest room. And I want to be able to 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,460 towels. I get it. 64 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:01,100 Put your stuff away. 65 00:04:02,860 --> 00:04:09,100 It scares me that one day he might eat something that doesn't come out. 66 00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:15,400 If we can't get help from Jackson, Monty is going to die. 67 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,019 If Monty dies, my husband will never forgive me. 68 00:04:34,190 --> 00:04:36,730 How are you, man? Good. Marco, nice to meet you. Marco, I'm Jackson. Good to 69 00:04:36,730 --> 00:04:37,930 meet you, man. Come on in, man, please. 70 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:41,790 I'm Amy. Amy, I'm Jackson. Good to meet you. Thank you so much for coming. Oh, 71 00:04:41,790 --> 00:04:44,770 of course. Of course. Well, tell me. Tell me about your cat troubles. You 72 00:04:44,770 --> 00:04:46,150 not have come at a better time. 73 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:49,690 Just last night, we had to take Monty to the emergency room. 74 00:04:50,070 --> 00:04:52,810 Get out of here. Yeah. He had recently eaten a towel. 75 00:04:53,290 --> 00:04:56,290 He stopped eating and stopped drinking. And Saturday and Sunday, every time he 76 00:04:56,290 --> 00:05:00,290 went to the water bowl, he would drink water, walk out into the living room, 77 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:01,290 throw up. Oh, wow. 78 00:05:01,610 --> 00:05:04,090 So it sounds like the towel he ate didn't pass through his system. 79 00:05:04,290 --> 00:05:05,290 So what did the vet do? 80 00:05:05,410 --> 00:05:09,210 They did an x -ray that was inconclusive, and they gave him fluids, 81 00:05:09,210 --> 00:05:13,570 pepped up. Is he here? He is here. Oh, he came home. He came home. Good. He 82 00:05:13,570 --> 00:05:15,510 home last night. He still hasn't used the litter box. 83 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:21,750 Yikes. The towel that Monty ate is still in his system, and Amy and Marker were 84 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:25,310 just waiting for him to expel it somehow, poop it out, or throw it up. 85 00:05:25,530 --> 00:05:28,690 And if that doesn't happen, then the towel can be wrapped up inside his 86 00:05:28,690 --> 00:05:32,050 intestines, and that can be a life -or -death situation that requires surgery. 87 00:05:32,250 --> 00:05:35,250 So we need to be ready to take him back to the vet at a moment's notice. 88 00:05:35,650 --> 00:05:39,170 Have you ever seen anything like this before? Yeah. If it is what I'm thinking 89 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:40,950 it is, it's pica. 90 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,640 Now, pica simply means eating non -food items, but that's deceiving. It is a 91 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,780 really complex behavior pattern. 92 00:05:49,260 --> 00:05:53,440 Obsessive -compulsive, sure, but it baffles vets, it baffles behaviorists, 93 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,440 baffles everybody. There is no single reason why cats will target certain 94 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,280 to obsessively chew, and unfortunately, the cause is as elusive as the cure. 95 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,900 Is there anything you can think of that triggered his last two sessions? 96 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,660 Every weekend, I run with a car club. 97 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:09,400 Do you really? You race cars too? Cool. 98 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,660 Yeah. And we left town. 99 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:16,140 That's what I'm talking about. Now, I don't know whether Monty's acting out 100 00:06:16,140 --> 00:06:20,380 because of separation anxiety or whether separation anxiety is triggering an 101 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:23,780 underlying condition like pica. All I know is I've got a lot left to learn. 102 00:06:24,140 --> 00:06:27,280 Have you gotten to that point where you're just not living a normal life 103 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:30,680 you're putting stuff away? I'll answer that. Well, wait a minute. It's really 104 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,420 difficult. We get in a lot of arguments. I'm an adult, and I don't like when my 105 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:38,660 husband tells me to put my stuff away. It makes me feel like I'm living at home 106 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:39,660 with my dad again. 107 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,160 Do you give a lot of grief about the stuff? I give her tons of grief. 108 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:48,820 What's going to happen when Monty dies? It's going to be my fault, and Marco 109 00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:51,780 will never be able to look at me the same again. 110 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,600 It scared me a lot. 111 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,300 This problem is not just affecting Monty. You can feel the tension between 112 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:04,020 and Amy. Amy's living in fear and guilt of what could happen to Monty. And in 113 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:08,340 the meantime, Marco seems completely unsympathetic to all that Amy's going 114 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:09,340 through. 115 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:10,500 Okay. 116 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,620 Oh, wow. It doesn't take long, man. Look at that. 117 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,660 Yeah. Holy. This is just part of his handiwork. This is the thing that made 118 00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:17,660 sick? Yeah. 119 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:23,720 You can see that he's really worked through almost every single corner. 120 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Holy! 121 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Now, I was expecting to see the towel that Monty chewed on. I didn't think it 122 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,840 was going to be towel, plural. 123 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,280 It's just a matter of time. This cat's going to kill himself. 124 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:33,820 Hey, buddy. 125 00:07:34,940 --> 00:07:35,960 There's our boy. 126 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Normally, with new people, he doesn't want to run away. He wants to come up 127 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,480 kind of rub and sniff. 128 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,120 Monty is clearly feeling pretty lousy, and it worries me that he's not eating 129 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,200 drinking because that's how he would push that towel through his system. 130 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,840 I'm going to do my best to tempt him with some food, but if he refuses it, 131 00:07:55,940 --> 00:07:57,760 action will have to be taken. 132 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,400 That's fishy. 133 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,860 Well, yes, it is. 134 00:08:01,820 --> 00:08:05,020 He's like, I want some of that. Look at how he's licking his lips. I love it, 135 00:08:05,060 --> 00:08:06,060 man. Please eat. 136 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,060 Go for that, buddy. Come on, bud. 137 00:08:09,060 --> 00:08:10,560 It's okay. It's okay. 138 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 He wants it. 139 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Try it out, bunny. 140 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:18,540 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come here. 141 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:21,440 It's okay, brother. It's okay. 142 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,900 I just saw Monty salivate over food and then walk away from it. He's hungry, but 143 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:28,760 he can't eat. That's bad news. 144 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:34,559 So, I mean, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm worrying that the towel might be in 145 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,559 him right now. 146 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:37,140 We've got to get him to the vet again. 147 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,440 That way you guys can hopefully get a blood test, so if there are meds we can 148 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,720 put him on, he'll be ready for meds, okay? Of course, you guys are going to 149 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,400 check in with me later? Yeah, absolutely. 150 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,340 In the case of a cat with potential intestinal blockage, I can't even assign 151 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:52,760 homework until I know that he's out of danger. 152 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Then, once he's out of the woods, a simple blood test will determine if it's 153 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,880 nutritional deficiency that's causing him to chew. If it's not, we'll know 154 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,300 it's indeed pica, and then we can focus on managing it. 155 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,100 All right, guys, well, I'm going to take off. Please make sure to call me 156 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:07,720 tonight, okay? Okay, thank you so much. 157 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,900 I don't want my cat to die, so we're going to take the cat to the vet 158 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,460 and... See if he's feeling better. If it turns out to be pica and it's a forever 159 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:21,880 issue, we're going to learn to live with it and work around Monty's issue. 160 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:23,300 Simple. 161 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:28,900 Thinking about having to deal with this for the next 20 -something years is 162 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:32,400 absolutely exhausting to me, and I'm not sure that I'll be able to do it. 163 00:09:45,439 --> 00:09:48,640 All right, I'm here for my second visit with Amy and Marco and their cat, Monty. 164 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:51,120 Now, a couple days ago, I was here for my first visit, and it was pretty 165 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,800 stressful. When I met Monty, he was in the midst of a medical emergency, so we 166 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,800 had to act fast. 167 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,580 Hopefully, I walk in today, Monty is happier and healthier. 168 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,200 But in cases like this, you never know. 169 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,220 Hey, Marco, man. How are you? Good, Jackson. Come on in. We've got a lot to 170 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:08,120 about. Oh, okay. Let's get to it, man. 171 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Hey, Amy. Hi. 172 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Thanks for coming. Good to see you again. 173 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:12,820 You too. 174 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,780 Things feel serious here, guys. Tell me what's going on. 175 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:20,620 The vet we went to was phenomenal. 176 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:25,220 They took great care of Monty. Good. He started eating and drinking again, so he 177 00:10:25,220 --> 00:10:29,600 did eventually move the towel out. There was towel in his system. Yeah. 178 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,740 Now, the last time I was here, I wasn't sure if Monty was going to live or die 179 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:34,840 after eating that towel. 180 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,860 He wasn't being social, and he didn't want to eat. So to hear that he passed 181 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:43,060 that towel through his system is a huge relief. Did the vet that I sent you to 182 00:10:43,060 --> 00:10:45,380 confirm that we're dealing with pica? Yes. 183 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,640 How are you feeling about hearing that? 184 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,920 It's very scary. There's no hard, fast solution. 185 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:52,260 No. No, there isn't. 186 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,540 Did you discuss meds with her? We did discuss that with her. Medication can 187 00:10:56,540 --> 00:10:59,640 reduce that compulsion to engage in pica. 188 00:11:00,140 --> 00:11:01,160 You're going to do it, right? 189 00:11:01,780 --> 00:11:02,920 Yes. Okay, good. 190 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:07,760 Now, there's no cure for pica, but with anti -anxiety medication and a lot of 191 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,380 hard work, hopefully I can teach Marco and Amy how to live with a pica cat. 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,080 So what else is going on? 193 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:16,820 Friday night we came home from dinner to find this. 194 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:19,420 That used to be a whole sandal. 195 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:23,560 Uh -oh. It's just, it's not fair. 196 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Are you pretty quick to put that blame on Amy? I am, because there are her 197 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,520 left for the cat to get to. 198 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:32,760 Aye. 199 00:11:32,830 --> 00:11:36,810 freaked out thinking like this is it this was my fault and then what's gonna 200 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:43,730 happen when monty dies so i stayed up all night and at four in the morning he 201 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:50,330 threw up two very large pieces of leather wow i want to check out monty 202 00:11:50,330 --> 00:11:51,830 how he's doing okay okay okay 203 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:57,360 Monty's pica is still completely out of control, and so in order to manage this 204 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,280 mysterious condition, I gotta see if Monty can be more social than he was on 205 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,620 last visit. If he can't, then we're all in trouble. 206 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,980 All right, so, where's our boy? 207 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,440 He went back under the bed. 208 00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:10,060 Hi. 209 00:12:14,420 --> 00:12:15,600 Monty, come here. 210 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:20,140 Come here, buddy. 211 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Hello. 212 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Hey, buddy. 213 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,300 Oh, don't go back there. 214 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,040 The fact that Monty doesn't want to come out and play concerns me. I'm hoping 215 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,360 that I could lure him out with treats, because if he doesn't want to play or 216 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,500 eat, then he could be headed to the ER again. 217 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:37,120 What do we have here? 218 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,440 What is it, Bubba? 219 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:42,500 There we go. 220 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,960 You will come to me. 221 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:49,060 Where are you, Bubba? He's there. He's waiting right there for you. 222 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:50,300 Oh, hi. 223 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:52,500 Come here, puppy. 224 00:12:58,540 --> 00:13:00,060 Magic. Food motivated. 225 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,340 Like magic. 226 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,400 I am so relieved that Monty came out from under the bed for food. I mean, 227 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,660 means he's recovering from chewing Amy's sandal, and he's capable of being 228 00:13:09,660 --> 00:13:15,340 motivated. So, I got some stuff for you. A beta. That is a real fish. 229 00:13:15,620 --> 00:13:17,780 There ain't nothing wrong with a little beta fish. 230 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:21,830 We know that Monty's chewing kicks in when he's alone. Every minute that he 231 00:13:21,830 --> 00:13:25,590 spends watching a fish is one minute that he's not chewing on something that 232 00:13:25,590 --> 00:13:26,590 potentially kill him. 233 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:31,330 Also, we got plant life here. Wheatgrass, ryegrass, catnip. These are 234 00:13:31,330 --> 00:13:34,830 that he can graze on. Actually good for his digestion. Things that can entertain 235 00:13:34,830 --> 00:13:39,710 him while you're not there. I also want you to change up your leaving routine 236 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:43,550 because he knows everything that you do before you leave the house. 237 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,280 I'm going to leave you with some hard plastic toys that are safe for Pika Cat. 238 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,580 And you're going to want to put away those other houseplants so he doesn't 239 00:13:51,580 --> 00:13:54,500 down on them. Let's see if that helps. All right? Yeah. 240 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,820 And lastly, Marco, you need to let Amy off the hook. This is causing her way 241 00:13:59,820 --> 00:14:00,820 much stress. 242 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,040 If there's any problems at all, you give me a shout, okay? 243 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Thank you. All right. Thank you. 244 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,840 Bye -bye. 245 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,680 I hope we can find some sort of solution. 246 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Because I don't want my cat to die. 247 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:20,360 I don't think I can last much longer under the stress of thinking about what 248 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,960 Monty has or hasn't eaten. I can't handle it. 249 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:26,780 Now it's time for a kitty bit. 250 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,440 Cats are unable to taste what flavor? 251 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:32,160 A. Sour. B. 252 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,620 Sweet. C. 253 00:14:33,980 --> 00:14:35,260 Bitter. Or D. 254 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,860 Salty. Find out after this break. 255 00:14:43,180 --> 00:14:44,840 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 256 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,120 Cats are unable to taste what flavor? 257 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:51,700 And the answer is B, sweet. 258 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,520 And by the way, compared to humans, the cat's sense of taste is weak. 259 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,120 Humans have 9 ,000 taste buds, while cats only have 473. 260 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:07,930 Marco and Amy's cat, Monty, has a dangerous condition called pica, which 261 00:15:07,930 --> 00:15:10,410 uncontrollable urge to eat non -food items. 262 00:15:10,630 --> 00:15:14,130 If we don't get a handle on this fast, it could cost Monty his life. 263 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:23,890 I've come all the way out here to the Chuckwalla Valley Raceway to talk to 264 00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:25,650 Marco. He's out here this weekend racing. 265 00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:26,910 Hey, Marco. 266 00:15:27,850 --> 00:15:31,030 Jackson, what are you doing here, man? How you doing? Good. I figured it's a 267 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:32,470 great chance to see what he does. 268 00:15:32,810 --> 00:15:37,470 But most importantly, I want to talk to him without Amy about Amy. He's blaming 269 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:39,970 her way too much about what's going on with Monty. 270 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:43,130 What are you doing here? 271 00:15:43,370 --> 00:15:46,390 I'm here to talk to you, man. Got some time? Yeah, I got some time. 272 00:15:46,650 --> 00:15:47,650 You want to go for a ride? 273 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:49,230 In the air? 274 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:02,700 Unbelievable. Unbelievable, man. 275 00:16:03,260 --> 00:16:04,260 Unbelievable. 276 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:08,560 That was so, so effing cool. 277 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:11,560 Was it scary? Yes, it was scary out there. 278 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,760 That was amazing. Dude, thank you so much. I thought you'd have a good time 279 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,820 that. I had an amazing time. Here's what I want to talk to you about. I want to 280 00:16:20,820 --> 00:16:21,820 talk about Amy. 281 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,740 That thing that went down with the sandal was crazy. 282 00:16:25,980 --> 00:16:30,420 Are you pretty quick to put that blame on Amy? I am, because they're her shoes. 283 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:32,420 You're pretty hard on her. 284 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,260 When she was following him around all night long, waiting for him to puke, at 285 00:16:38,260 --> 00:16:41,260 what point did you let her off the hook? When he did. 286 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,580 See, that's what I'm saying to you, man. You need to stop blaming Amy for 287 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:47,000 Monty's behavior. Can you do that? 288 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:52,350 I'm absolutely willing to make that effort. 289 00:16:53,050 --> 00:16:55,690 I'm glad I came out here, man. You're so pliable today. 290 00:16:56,350 --> 00:16:59,750 That's only because we got to go fast. I know. I feel like coming out here 291 00:16:59,750 --> 00:17:02,390 today, not only was I able to bond a little bit with Marco, which is really 292 00:17:02,390 --> 00:17:07,369 cool, but also I got his sign -off on some really important matters. I am so 293 00:17:07,369 --> 00:17:12,369 psyched now to get back in there with Monty, with Marco and Amy. I can't wait 294 00:17:12,369 --> 00:17:13,369 for it. 295 00:17:21,139 --> 00:17:24,420 I'm out in front of Marco and Amy's house for my last visit with them and 296 00:17:24,420 --> 00:17:25,219 cat, Monty. 297 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:28,560 Now, I saw their video homework, and I noticed that Monty was interested in his 298 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,100 new fish and chewing the edible plants I left. You like the mint, buddy? 299 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,500 I also saw Marco and Amy changing up their routine when leaving the house. 300 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,560 What shall I leave out today when I go to work? Maybe this catnip boy? 301 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:45,200 Hopefully today I'm going to walk in here, and the two of them are on the 302 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,380 page, and that means that Monty's energy is much more focused. 303 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:52,500 on doing the positive things and not on chewing. But that's a long shot, I'm 304 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:53,900 hoping here. Hey, Marco. 305 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,740 How are you, Jackson? I'm great, man. How are you doing? Good. Welcome back. 306 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Thank you, man. Now listen, I've got to ask you right off the bat, since the 307 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,020 last time I was here, is Monty okay? 308 00:18:04,420 --> 00:18:08,240 We're doing great. No hospital, no chewing, no nothing. 309 00:18:08,740 --> 00:18:09,860 Ow! Yay! 310 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,020 I've had this cat five years now. I've never had that. 311 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,840 Ah, music to my ears right there. 312 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:21,700 The thing that Jackson gave us that was the most helpful was to avoid routine so 313 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:26,660 that Monty is always thinking about that instead of chewing on things. So now 314 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:28,440 it's just all good Monty all the time. 315 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Where is he today? Behind the table. 316 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,660 Now here's the thing. Each time I've come here, I've seen a cat not well at 317 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:42,620 Right. Not social at all. I need to see him out here playing. If I could just 318 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:45,320 get him out here, I know we've gotten somewhere, okay? 319 00:18:46,030 --> 00:18:49,190 Now, last time I was here, I couldn't get Monty out from under the bed with 320 00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:52,750 play. I had to lure him out with food. Now, today, I want to see that he's a 321 00:18:52,750 --> 00:18:56,810 confident cat. That means he's following the toy out on his own. Come on, buddy. 322 00:18:58,690 --> 00:18:59,690 Come on, bud. 323 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:02,770 Let's not do this again. 324 00:19:04,990 --> 00:19:05,990 Come on, buddy. 325 00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:13,070 I've got to see him playing. This cat is the happy, healthy cat I want him to 326 00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:14,250 be. Come on. 327 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:16,500 Come on. 328 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,840 What is it? 329 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,920 Good boy! 330 00:19:19,260 --> 00:19:20,300 Good boy! 331 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:23,600 This is a cat that we were digging out from under the bed a couple weeks ago. 332 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,160 This level of focus from him right now means he's not going to chew. 333 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,880 Finally, it happens. Monty focuses on the laser and he goes for it. I mean, 334 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,980 a vengeance. That's all I was waiting for. A chance to see Monty free from the 335 00:19:37,980 --> 00:19:42,040 obsessive anxiety he suffers from and playing with reckless abandon. 336 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,680 I didn't realize. 337 00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:48,620 that our dynamic affected the cat so much and that the stress between us 338 00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:49,660 trickled down. 339 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:53,200 I know how much you love Monty. Cats got pica. 340 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:56,880 Accidents happen, and it's not ever your fault. 341 00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:01,260 Thank you. You're welcome. I love you. I love you, too. 342 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Working with cats and people. Well, here's the funny part. It is all tied 343 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,080 together. 344 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,700 With that being said, I feel like I'm done. 345 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,480 We're in a really good place with Monty right now. 346 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:18,040 I have the tools that I need to feel confident that I'm not going to kill 347 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:18,839 poor cat. 348 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,860 Goodbye, Monty. 349 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,440 Goodbye, Marco. 350 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Goodbye, Amy. Take care, all right? 351 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,500 Jackson's given Monty a greater shot at living longer. 352 00:20:28,820 --> 00:20:32,760 Obviously, Pika, there is no cure for something like that. But he's given us 353 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,360 tools we need to help give Monty the quality of life that he deserves. 354 00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:37,840 He's such an awesome little cat. 355 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:43,850 Ooh! Our problem child is Thumbelina. 356 00:20:44,490 --> 00:20:47,970 Thumbelina. I run a cupcake business out of my house. The cat fighting is 357 00:20:47,970 --> 00:20:48,970 definitely affecting my business. 358 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:50,290 I've got to get off the counter. I've got to bake. 359 00:20:50,590 --> 00:20:54,570 There have been times where I burn my cupcakes because I have to stop them 360 00:20:54,570 --> 00:20:55,570 fighting with each other. 361 00:20:57,070 --> 00:20:58,290 Jesus. Thumbelina. 362 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:02,750 I'm at the point where I'm like, just get rid of Thumbelina. I don't want to 363 00:21:02,750 --> 00:21:03,750 under my cat. 364 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:25,150 I'm in San Diego, and I'm on my way to go see Leilani and Michael and their cat 365 00:21:25,150 --> 00:21:29,030 Thumbelina, who's just one of their many cats ruining their chill SoCal 366 00:21:29,030 --> 00:21:30,030 lifestyle. 367 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:34,690 I'm hoping to return them and their cats back to something totally awesome, 368 00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:35,810 dude. 369 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:38,590 I'm Leilani. 370 00:21:38,670 --> 00:21:39,549 I'm Michael. 371 00:21:39,550 --> 00:21:42,650 And we've been together for 15 years and married almost 10 years. 372 00:21:43,330 --> 00:21:44,490 We have four cats. 373 00:21:45,010 --> 00:21:49,410 Thumbelina is a Balinese, and so is Tinkerbell, and there's Tahira and 374 00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:50,550 and they're both Savannah cats. 375 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,380 Our problem child was Thumbelina. 376 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,360 Tinkerbell and Thumbelina used to be best friends, and then I brought Pigger 377 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,980 Sahara into the house, and that's when the fighting started. 378 00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:08,780 Thumbelina! 379 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,380 Thumbelina, basically, she'll stalk whoever she's pissed off at the time, or 380 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:15,360 at, then she'll just go after him and hit him. 381 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:20,730 Some days there's catfights, like, all day long. 382 00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:27,870 The fights have gotten so bad, we're afraid that somebody is seriously going 383 00:22:27,870 --> 00:22:28,870 hurt somebody. 384 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:30,550 God, 385 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:36,470 what did I do to you? I run a cupcake business out of my house. I make custom 386 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:37,470 cupcakes. 387 00:22:38,610 --> 00:22:42,550 It's difficult for me to run my business and keep the cats from, you know, 388 00:22:42,550 --> 00:22:43,550 tearing each other apart. 389 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,480 There have been times where I burn my cupcakes because I have to stop them 390 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,480 fighting with each other. 391 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,300 The cats fighting is definitely affecting my business. 392 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,060 And then we fight over it. 393 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,760 I'm at the point where I'm like, just get rid of a ballina. 394 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:03,660 If Jackson can't help us, we'd have to give up somebody. 395 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,980 I don't want to give up any of my cats. 396 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:10,420 You know, they're my kids. 397 00:23:16,340 --> 00:23:20,640 Hi, Jackson. I'm your mommy. Hey, good to meet you. Welcome to San Diego. Thank 398 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,920 you so much. How are you? Good, how are you? I'm Michael. Michael, good to meet 399 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,659 you, man. 400 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:28,500 I've been a fan of Jackson for years, and I was really excited to see him 401 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,300 because we really, really needed help. 402 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,560 I appreciate the work that he does for animals and everything, but I have some 403 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,560 doubts. 404 00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:39,540 So, guys, tell me, what's going on with Zambolina? 405 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,440 She's bullying the other cats in the house. We have three other cats. 406 00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:45,710 We have Pigger, Sahara, and Tinkerbell. 407 00:23:45,910 --> 00:23:50,090 Okay. And she's chasing them around the house. She's smacking them around. 408 00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:54,610 And this has been going on for how long? 409 00:23:54,830 --> 00:23:57,330 Starting to get aggressive once we got Pigger. 410 00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:59,390 He's a Savannah cat. 411 00:23:59,610 --> 00:24:01,550 Oh. And, yeah. Oh. 412 00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:03,070 Okay. 413 00:24:03,410 --> 00:24:08,390 Yeah, and then we brought Sahara in. Sahara is another Savannah. Oh. 414 00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:09,799 Oh, my God. 415 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,540 Savannas are a hybrid between a domestic cat and a serval, which is an African 416 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:17,720 wildcat. And because of their wild heritage, Savannas can often be violent, 417 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,020 destructive, or both. 418 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:21,400 What kind of cats are Thumbelina and Tinkerbell? 419 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:23,160 They're a Balinese cat. 420 00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:27,780 Okay. Now, Balinese are typically very sweet -natured, so when Leilani and 421 00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:31,620 Michael tell me that Thumbelina is their problem child, I suspect that there's a 422 00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:35,620 lot more going on here, because four cats is a lot to have in this small 423 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,040 How is the bullying manifesting? 424 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:42,210 There's a fight every day. Fights every day. Every day. Okay. And a lot of times 425 00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:44,710 that affects me and it puts me behind for my business. What do you do? 426 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:46,810 I make cupcakes for a living. 427 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:50,530 There'll be something in the oven and it will burn because I'm upstairs trying 428 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:51,530 to break up the fight. 429 00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:57,150 I'm putting the blame on her. 430 00:24:58,730 --> 00:25:00,250 It's kind of like the I told you so. 431 00:25:00,730 --> 00:25:01,730 Why? 432 00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:04,950 She wanted Savannah. Because I brought the Savannah cats in the house. 433 00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:06,390 I was against it. 434 00:25:07,649 --> 00:25:09,750 Let's get up and move around a little bit. Come on, guys. 435 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:12,390 There is so much violence going on in this house. 436 00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:17,330 You can tell it's taking a toll on the humans. Just get rid of a balloon. 437 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:22,330 So, I need to meet all the cats in this crowded house because that's the only 438 00:25:22,330 --> 00:25:23,670 way I'm going to get the full picture. 439 00:25:26,110 --> 00:25:27,470 And we've got a cat! 440 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:29,770 Hi! That's Sahara. 441 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Wow, there's a lot of Sahara to love. 442 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:36,800 Hi, Sahara. I would love for you to say hi to me, baby. 443 00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:38,060 Hi, my love. 444 00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:40,660 Hello, my love. 445 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,880 Ooh, it's okay. 446 00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:45,320 Ouch. God. 447 00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:50,840 Wow, I was not expecting that. When a cat is this territorially defensive, you 448 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,380 know there's a lot of tension in the house. 449 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Ooh. 450 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:55,540 Ouch. 451 00:25:56,620 --> 00:26:00,120 I haven't even met somebody yet, but right away I can tell it's not going to 452 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,940 easy sharing a space with a Savannah who's this big and this defensive. 453 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,340 Let's keep moving, guys. Okay. I really wanted to see the kitchen because you 454 00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:12,980 put four cats, violence, and food in the same barrel, there's going to be an 455 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:13,980 explosion. 456 00:26:14,260 --> 00:26:17,000 Okay, so, into the kitchen. Well, hi. 457 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,880 Hi. So this would be... That's a tiger. 458 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:23,820 That's Tigger. That's a lot of cat, man. 459 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,540 Yeah. Like Sahara, Tigger is an F2 Savannah, which means that he's very 460 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:32,800 related to a wild cat. So after what happened outside... Ooh. 461 00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:34,420 Ouch. 462 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,540 I'm going to give him his space. 463 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,820 Now, I see bulls down here. Do they fight around food? 464 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:43,640 Um, yeah. Tinkerbell and Stumblinos are swatting at the other cats. 465 00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:48,720 Here's the thing. Nothing is more important to a cat than where food comes 466 00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:53,290 Those tiny Balinese don't stand a chance of getting their share of the food when 467 00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:56,970 they're competing with savannas. And now that I finally met the wild side of the 468 00:26:56,970 --> 00:26:59,210 family, it's time to meet the domesticated side. 469 00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:04,490 Oh, we have cats. 470 00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:05,870 Yeah. 471 00:27:07,330 --> 00:27:14,190 So, guys, we got 472 00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:16,070 Thumbelina and Tinkerbell. 473 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,700 In a little cat ball together here. 474 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:22,760 The Thumbelina that I'm seeing is not the Thumbelina that these guys are 475 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,060 describing. She's not vicious. She's not a bully. 476 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:27,200 She's just your typical sweet -natured Balinese. 477 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Here's the thing. Just because they started fighting doesn't mean that 478 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,959 mortal enemies. 479 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,920 But I need to see that for sure. And I'm not seeing it right now. So hold on a 480 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,920 minute. I'm going to grab something, okay? 481 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Thumbelina and Tinkerbell are very cute and cuddly now, but I'm worried that my 482 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,560 presence is throwing them off their normal behavior. 483 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,200 I want to see what happens when I'm not in the room. This is my cat cam case, 484 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,360 right? Okay. 485 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,300 Okay, so here's one of them. 486 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,040 Okay, we're going to start right here. 487 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,200 Now I'm going to see behavior as it actually goes down as opposed to what 488 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,260 happens when I'm around. 489 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,380 Meantime, you guys just hang, and I will get you when I'm ready, okay? All 490 00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:13,380 right. Cool. 491 00:28:24,699 --> 00:28:26,020 Let's see what you guys are up to. 492 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Come on. 493 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,320 Fighting? No. 494 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:36,780 There you go. 495 00:28:39,260 --> 00:28:40,260 There it is. 496 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,180 Now I'm seeing the aggression that Michael and Leilani are describing. 497 00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:49,920 And yeah, it's pretty bad. But I'm more worried about the overall picture I'm 498 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,080 seeing in this household. I mean, you have these two huge, half -wild 499 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,380 who are dominating both mealtimes and territory. 500 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,260 And you have two Balinese who are being marginalized. 501 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:05,940 Thumbelina's violence is not the cause of the chaos in this house. It's just a 502 00:29:05,940 --> 00:29:09,840 symptom. Let me tell you what I saw. I saw a lot of territorial aggression. 503 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,160 And that's what we have to work on in this house. 504 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,840 You guys obviously love the beach. 505 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,480 So I'm going to put this in as many beach terms as I can. The first thing 506 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,800 guys need to have here, you've got to have a life preserver, okay? 507 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,520 And that means that when you see things starting to go down, grab a piece of 508 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,560 cardboard, put it in between them. That sight locker makes it for that instant 509 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,600 the cats are like, what's going on? 510 00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:34,460 Then you can just sort of shoo them off. 511 00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:37,170 The second big need here is meal time structure. 512 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:41,610 You can feed the savannas outside, close the door, then come in here and feed 513 00:29:41,610 --> 00:29:45,850 the other two. Boom, we're done. Make sure you keep them separated because if 514 00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:48,950 the savannas finish their food, they will rush in and they will make the 515 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:50,290 Balinese feel totally insecure. 516 00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:53,970 We don't want that to happen at all. Then I need you to catify the space. 517 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:57,230 I need to have other things around here that Thumbelina can own. Hold on one 518 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:58,230 second. 519 00:29:58,870 --> 00:30:00,780 Oh. Okay, guys. 520 00:30:00,980 --> 00:30:04,060 Oh, wow. So these are your beach blankets, right? 521 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,180 We're going to use all of these to mark territory. 522 00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:10,280 And looking around this house, I can't help but notice that while it may look 523 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520 like a tropical paradise for the humans, there's really not a lot of territory 524 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,380 for the cats to own. When you have four cats in a small house, especially when 525 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:23,000 two of them are big, half -wild savannas, you need to have things that 526 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,840 can identify as their own. So let's give Thumbelina and the rest of these guys 527 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,140 some beds that they can soak their scent into. 528 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:35,000 To wrap this whole thing up, it's so important that you guys stop 529 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Zambolina. 530 00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:40,960 She's throwing up an SOS, and she has been for years now, and you guys got to 531 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,160 listen to that SOS, okay? When Jackson was pointing out that it was actually 532 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,780 Tigger and Sahara, it definitely confirms my worst fears. 533 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000 I told you so. 534 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,180 Guys, I'm going to take off. If you've got any questions at all, you let me 535 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,720 know, and I will talk to you soon, okay? Thank you very much. 536 00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:59,160 Bye -bye, guys. Nice meeting you. Nice meeting you. 537 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,760 Homework needs to work. 538 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:04,300 We're going to have to rehome Tigger and Sahara. 539 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,060 All right, I'm back in San Diego for my second visit with Leilani, Michael, and 540 00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:21,940 their cats, Thumbelina, Tinkerbell, Sahara, and Tigger. 541 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:25,640 Now, the last time I was here... Jesus, Thumbelina! 542 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,560 Thumbelina's aggression towards the other cats had Michael and Leilani 543 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,140 the blame game. I'm at the point where I'm like, just get rid of Thumbelina. 544 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,840 I don't want to get rid of my cats. 545 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,220 Now, this time around, I want to see the Balinese cats getting an equal share of 546 00:31:39,220 --> 00:31:44,020 the territory in the house, because if this house is still totally taken over 547 00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:45,020 the Savannas... 548 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:47,650 Oh, we're going to have trouble. 549 00:31:50,670 --> 00:31:54,750 Hey, Michael. How are you, man? Welcome back to San Diego. Good to see you, man. 550 00:31:55,630 --> 00:31:58,270 Leilani, how are you? Good to see you again. 551 00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:58,909 You too. 552 00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:00,830 So, guys, how's it going with the cat? Tell me. 553 00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:02,070 We definitely see improvement. 554 00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:04,350 But they're still fighting. 555 00:32:06,490 --> 00:32:07,490 Okay. 556 00:32:08,410 --> 00:32:12,510 We started using the fight blocker. Okay. But then Thumbelina comes back. 557 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:14,470 Yeah, and then she'll come back 10 minutes later and fight. 558 00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:15,810 Right, right. 559 00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:17,630 Would have been hoping for a little more progress. 560 00:32:17,850 --> 00:32:19,650 What else? Tell me anything else that's going on. 561 00:32:19,930 --> 00:32:20,930 The pain. 562 00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:25,330 What? Did I know about this last time I was here? I don't think we knew. I don't 563 00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:29,010 think it came up. I was doing cleaning and I went underneath the couch and I'm 564 00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:29,889 like, oh. 565 00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:35,070 As soon as I thought it just made me mad and so I ended up yelling at her and 566 00:32:35,070 --> 00:32:37,470 then it's, you know, just bickering back and forth. 567 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,700 When I heard that Leilani and Michael had discovered their cats were peeing, 568 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:46,980 heart sank. I mean, peeing outside the box is another way that cats respond to 569 00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:50,420 territorial insecurity. So that just means that things in this house are even 570 00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:54,360 worse than we thought, especially since it's increasing the tension between the 571 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,340 couple. Let's take a look at what you guys have been doing. 572 00:32:57,820 --> 00:33:01,180 Okay, so I'm feeding the Savannah cats outside. 573 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:06,730 We had all four cats eating in different camps. There wasn't competition over 574 00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:09,270 food, which is really important among four cats. 575 00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:14,110 And I saw them using those beds, which hopefully is giving the cats more 576 00:33:14,110 --> 00:33:15,630 territory to own around the house. 577 00:33:18,130 --> 00:33:25,130 I saw a fight between Tinkerbell and Thumbelina, and 578 00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:26,450 that concerns me. 579 00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:28,150 Okay. 580 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,800 I'm so feeling it's frustrating. 581 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,960 I mean, it makes me sad. 582 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,340 I don't want to give up any of my cat. 583 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,400 I don't think we can live this way in general. It's causing too much stress. 584 00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:51,700 We're going to get through this. 585 00:33:52,260 --> 00:33:54,860 And I'm with you guys until we get through this. 586 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,060 We still have a lot of work to do. Let's get on top of this. Come on. Let's go. 587 00:34:00,820 --> 00:34:01,820 Look who's here. 588 00:34:02,699 --> 00:34:08,420 Last time I was here, all she was curious about was, like, how far she 589 00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:09,639 strike me to the bone. 590 00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:15,260 Oh. Now, although Sahara seems a little less violent, she's still protecting her 591 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:18,000 territory more than I'd like, so I want to see if I can get her to play with me. 592 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:19,580 Hello, good girl. 593 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,300 I would love to see you come down from there. 594 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,320 Look at how brave you are today. 595 00:34:25,179 --> 00:34:26,400 Are you going to go after it? 596 00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:30,139 Do you know it to me? 597 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,300 I want to bring out one other toy for you, baby. I want to see if you like 598 00:34:41,860 --> 00:34:43,520 Good girl. 599 00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,780 When Sahara went after that toy, she lost every trace of that defensiveness I 600 00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:49,780 saw when she attacked me. 601 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,719 She just looks like a happy cat. I want to bring this to all of the cats in the 602 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,140 house because I think if we can get them all playing in the same room, they'll 603 00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:00,740 start to realize they can share space. 604 00:35:01,230 --> 00:35:02,510 without being threatened by one another. 605 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:05,150 Okay, so now I know that we've got to start here at the pee. 606 00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:09,170 Yeah, it's underneath the couch part right there. You mind pulling that back 607 00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:10,170 me? 608 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,230 Let's lift it up for you. You can kind of get an idea of what it looks like 609 00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:15,230 right there. 610 00:35:15,710 --> 00:35:18,010 So this is a... Oh, my God, it's wet. 611 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:19,550 Oh! 612 00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:21,890 Oh, that's awful. 613 00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:24,610 The pee smell is overwhelming. 614 00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:27,410 So how many litter boxes do you have? 615 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,010 Two. What? 616 00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:32,490 Come on now, you know you can't have two litter boxes in this house. 617 00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:35,170 You have four cats. 618 00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:38,670 I don't know, it doesn't look very... I don't know, I don't feel like having 619 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:39,750 that litter box. 620 00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:42,109 Little honey. 621 00:35:42,110 --> 00:35:43,110 I know. 622 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:47,510 We have to have a reality check here. As a rule, you want one more litter box 623 00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:50,630 than the number of cats in the house. And for a house with two huge savannah 624 00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:54,970 cats who dominate the territory, two boxes are definitely not enough. 625 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:58,090 Having ample litter boxes is another way for a cat to feel... 626 00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:01,820 ownership of their territory. And when you don't have ownership, that's when 627 00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:02,820 get fighting and peeing. 628 00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:05,480 Guys, this is what I want to talk about right here. 629 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,640 Miss Thumbelina, good to see you again. 630 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,920 Oh, look at who. 631 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,300 This is the tree in the video, Homer. 632 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:14,380 Oh! 633 00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,640 And you're telling me that that's something that happens regularly. 634 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,799 Yeah, every day. 635 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,900 Daily. Every day? Every day. I have to break up them fighting over the top. 636 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,840 All right, let's start talking about the vertical world here. These guys are 637 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,040 telling us that's not enough. We're still fighting over resources. 638 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,580 You know, one thing that strikes me about this living room is its bareness, 639 00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:37,220 especially when you're considering how badly these cats are struggling for 640 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:38,220 territory. 641 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,600 Oh! 642 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,200 We've got to open up that vertical world, or else these Balinese don't 643 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,879 chance here. 644 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,600 All right, guys, are you ready for some homework? 645 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,260 Sure. Now, the first thing I want to start talking about is the vertical 646 00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:53,820 I really want to see shelving in here. 647 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,040 Now, the next thing I want you guys to do, I want to make sure that you're 648 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,120 playing every day. Play with all of the cats in the same room. 649 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,580 Good girl. 650 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,060 If you play with something, it'll wear you down, and it allows everyone's 651 00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:09,940 to chill out a little bit. 652 00:37:10,540 --> 00:37:12,180 Finally, here's the fun part. 653 00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:14,700 Five litter boxes. 654 00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:17,920 I want to see them out in socially significant areas. 655 00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:21,640 Out in the open where these cats demand it. Guys, I'm going to cut out. Thank 656 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,940 you. All right. Take care, guys. 657 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,320 Bye. Bye. 658 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,680 If things don't get better, I think that there's going to be a major fight. 659 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,340 I don't know if this is important to work out because I don't want to give up 660 00:37:33,340 --> 00:37:34,340 son. 661 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,020 All right, I'm back in San Diego for my final visit with Leilani and Michael and 662 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:53,180 their cats, Thumbelina, Tinkerbell Sahara, and Tigger. And the last time I 663 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:54,640 here, it was bad. 664 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:56,240 Oh! 665 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,259 That's awful. 666 00:37:57,260 --> 00:38:00,660 There was pee ringing up the floor, fighting going on unchecked. Oh! 667 00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,900 Now, I got a chance to take a look at their video homework, and they put up 668 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,220 shelves, which is great, and some litter boxes, and I saw them playing with the 669 00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:11,940 cats all together. Now, hopefully, I'm going to walk in this time to see no 670 00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:16,350 aggression. No peeing out of the litter box, and Leilani is finally able to 671 00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:17,350 focus on her baking. 672 00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:19,770 She's asking for a lot, but I'm pretty hopeful. 673 00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:23,290 Tell me, how are things going with your cats? 674 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:29,050 They're going a lot better than last visit, for sure. 675 00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:30,750 Okay, good. 676 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:35,590 Since you came, we put down more litter boxes all over the house. We have five 677 00:38:35,590 --> 00:38:36,569 of them now. 678 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:37,630 Any peeing whatsoever? 679 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:42,560 Zero. No peeing. No peeing. No peeing. Oh, in this house? 680 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,320 Yeah. That's insane. 681 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,280 So what else? The fighting has definitely gone down a lot since we've, 682 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,600 had the catification going on, the beds everywhere. 683 00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:55,700 Boom. When cats have more to own, like litter boxes and shelves, they don't act 684 00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:59,840 out in insecure ways like peeing or fighting. How are you guys doing 685 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,779 this point? 686 00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:01,780 We're doing good. 687 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,720 I'm not putting a blame game on her anymore. 688 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,980 We have to be a team. 689 00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:11,820 We've definitely bonded closer doing the projects, doing the homework. I love 690 00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:15,440 hearing that. Now, I've got to go look at the Cat Superhighway and how the cats 691 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,440 are taken to it. 692 00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:22,460 Now, let's start talking about your Cat Superhighway here. I mean, I like a lot 693 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:27,080 of the elements to it, but what I need you to do is expand it out. I need you 694 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,460 make it friendly for four cats. 695 00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:30,920 Two of whom are only 20 pounds. 696 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:32,038 You did? Yeah. 697 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,580 You knew I was going to say it. Why didn't you do it? We have a surprise for 698 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:36,100 you. We're going to go show you. So come on. 699 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,558 Oh, sweet. 700 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Okay. 701 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,240 What? 702 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,020 Did you do in here? 703 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,120 So we walk into the office, and I mean, how? 704 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,300 I mean, it was floor to ceiling, beautiful. 705 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:07,800 Cats sitting everywhere. I am in cat heaven right now. 706 00:40:08,020 --> 00:40:09,020 Poor cat. 707 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,480 No fighting, no tension. 708 00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:12,940 Oh, oh, oh. 709 00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:19,300 Okay. Look at this. Look at what she's doing right now. She's looking for other 710 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:20,300 routes, right? 711 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,600 You have set this up. 712 00:40:21,930 --> 00:40:24,670 So that you're not competing for the resources because the resources go on 713 00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:28,750 forever in here, you know? So Thumbelina jumps up there, and the beautiful thing 714 00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:31,630 was she saw no competition of resources. 715 00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:36,350 And that's a game changer. That means that I can leave here knowing that these 716 00:40:36,350 --> 00:40:41,250 guys are going to be okay. So, guys, tell me, is there any chance at all of 717 00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:42,990 cats being rehomed in this house? No. 718 00:40:43,710 --> 00:40:44,710 No, never. 719 00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:48,910 That must feel really good to know you've made them so happy. Oh, 720 00:40:48,910 --> 00:40:49,910 mean, it's... 721 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440 Why? I don't know. Seeing my cats happy. 722 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,820 I'm happy for you. I really am. I really am. 723 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,280 It makes me extremely happy to see my cats happy. I mean, I don't think 724 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,980 enough words we can say how grateful we are. 725 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,900 Hey, I'm going to cut out. Hold on. 726 00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:14,640 Wait here. We'll be right back. We've got one more surprise for you. 727 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,580 We'll be right back. I ain't going anywhere. All right. 728 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,540 Right? Just you and me? 729 00:41:21,410 --> 00:41:24,590 Thank you, President, for all the work you've done for us. 730 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:28,090 Leilani's passion is baking. 731 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:33,550 The fact that she could get back to this again is because of the fact that she's 732 00:41:33,550 --> 00:41:36,810 not breaking up fights, and that makes me really, really happy. I'm going to 733 00:41:36,810 --> 00:41:37,810 take my cake and run. 734 00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:42,590 Thank you again so much. Thank you so much. When Jackson first came in, I was 735 00:41:42,590 --> 00:41:43,590 kind of skeptical. 736 00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:49,120 Ooh! I made him a fan. He's definitely not a Jackson fan. I'm on board. Thanks 737 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,660 lot, Jackson. Now that the cats are not fighting and we're not fighting and 738 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:57,140 everybody can kind of just chill and we are all a big, happy family. 61862

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