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You're peeing on the wall.
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Her cat Frankie is turning our dream
home into a nightmare.
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Frankie, stop.
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Frankie was the perfect cat before my
mom brought Sawyer.
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Then Frankie started peeing. Our bedroom
has become the litter box. What are you
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doing? I'm cleaning up your cat's urine
all over the place. Go.
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It's not sanitary for the kids.
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Kids, stay away. Stay away, Oliver.
That's disgusting. It's killing our
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relationship. I'm done. I'm done. It's
me or the cats.
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When Dinah and Sugar fight, they blow
up. I really think that the cats should
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fight it out. Well, I disagree.
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My biggest fear, honestly, is that one's
going to get hurt.
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Sugar's more my cat, and Dinah is more
of your cat. And Dinah is the boy, so
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we have to get rid of her.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy. I'm a musician by
night.
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and a cat behavior by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats, one -on -one, analyzing their
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behaviors and retraining them and their
guardians.
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When relationships are at an end. I
don't have many more options than to
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lean. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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I'm their last hope.
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You all right?
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Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans only have one.
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I'm on my way to go see Daniel and
Desiree and their cat Frankie.
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Frankie, who has turned their gorgeous
house into his own personal litter box.
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I'm giving the kids a bath, and he's in
here pooping on the bed.
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Daniel is so completely over this, and
Desiree is holding out hope that I'm
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going to come in and save the day. So,
wish me luck.
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I'm Desiree. I'm Daniel.
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And we've been married for six years.
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We just moved with our family to our
big, beautiful dream home in Calabasas.
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And her cat Frankie is turning our dream
into a nightmare.
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You're peeing on the wall. Oh, my God.
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Frankie is nine years old. He's called a
flame point Siamese. I adopted Frankie
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when he was six weeks old. I promised
Frankie the day that I adopted him that
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would never feel sad or scared again.
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He's my baby.
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We have three children.
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We have twins that are three.
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Zoe and Oliver.
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And then we have Amelia, who is 10
months old.
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My mom came to help me with the children
and brought her cat, Sawyer. My cat
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won't leave Frankie alone.
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This has been causing a lot of tension
between my daughter, her husband.
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I don't want to hear it. But you're part
of this family. Figure it out. I'm
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done. I'm done. I think they're going to
get divorced over Frankie. Frankie was
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the perfect cat before Sawyer. Then he
started peeing in the room.
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Oh, my God. Daniel is going to kill you,
Frankie.
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I come to our bedroom every night before
we go to bed. I think our bedroom has
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become the litter box. What are you
doing?
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I'm cleaning up your cat's urine all
over the place.
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It's not sanitary for the kids.
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Kids, stay away. Stay away, Oliver.
That's disgusting. It's killing our
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relationship. Frankie is Desiree's cat.
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It's Desiree's responsibility to fix
this problem.
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It's our responsibility because he's
part of our family.
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I didn't take an oath with respect to
Frankie. You took an oath with respect
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me.
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I've seen Jackson work miracles.
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I don't know if he could work them here.
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It has to help.
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He has to fix Frankie.
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Me or Frankie.
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Hey, Jackson.
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Hi. Thank God you're here.
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We've been waiting for you. I assume so.
Well, good.
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I'm Desiree. Desiree, I'm Jackson. Good
to meet you. Good to meet you. Guys, I
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know a little bit about what's going on
with Frankie, but fill me in.
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Frankie has been part of our life for
nine years. Okay. My mom moved in to
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us with our children, and she had to
bring her cat, Sawyer. And right after
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moved in, Frankie started acting out.
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He started with pooping on our bed.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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Now, when a cat poops in your bed,
they're not doing it out of spite. It's
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desperate cry for help. Now, I haven't
met Frankie yet, but normally it's a
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that a cat is really territorially
insecure.
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Then it went to peeing on the wall. But
it's primarily two walls, one in our
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bedroom, right next to our bed, and one
in the family room where the kids are
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playing. Cats 101.
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Cats do not like change. They can become
very territorially insecure. You've got
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to feel really, really sorry for
Frankie. I mean, he had a perfect life.
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a sudden, they move into a new house.
They have twins that are born.
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Desiree's mom moves in with another cat.
I mean, the whole world exploded. I
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have no patience for Frankie. Oh. You
can't come home and live in this
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disgusting environment.
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I mean, I hate to say it, it's me or the
cat.
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Seriously? Yes.
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Daniel said it's me or the cat.
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You don't hear that all that often, that
someone puts that kind of an ultimatum
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on the table while I'm standing there.
So if that's the case, it is serious.
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I got here just in time.
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Oh, well, here we go. Hey, how are you?
This is my mother -in -law, Cheryl.
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Cheryl, good to meet you. This is Oliver
and Zoe, our three -year -old twins.
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Well, hello, Oliver and Zoe.
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Amelia, our two -month -old is sleeping
upstairs.
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How do you do?
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What? It's the funny cat guy.
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Oh, is this Sawyer?
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Oh, my God, he's huge.
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Sawyer's a beast of a cat. Seems
friendly enough, but if I were Frankie,
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kids and new people and a new house and
a 20 -pound cat, yeah, I get it. This is
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nothing here. I got to tell you right
now, man, I don't have kids. I have
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and I'm telling you, when I walked into
that room and the three -year -olds were
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running around like that, I could feel
it. Let's keep moving. Come on, guys.
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Let's go.
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So this is our bathroom.
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Okay. Well, okay, we've got a litter box
here. So we head upstairs to the
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bathroom, and the first thing I see on
the floor is a litter box. First litter
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box I've seen all day. At least that's a
good sign. That's a step in the right
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direction. I like that.
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Why did you place it right there?
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Just because we really...
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don't want a litter box in our bedroom.
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Oh, okay.
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Or in the middle of the floor.
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The cats make a mess with it. Is there
anything about his box behavior that
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you've seen you don't like? Like, for
instance, when he's in the box, does he
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cover? Does he run away from the box?
Does he shake his paws when he leaves
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box? Does he act paranoid when he leaves
the box?
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I've never seen him pee in the litter
box.
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You've never seen him pee in the litter
box? I've never seen him pee in the
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litter box. Ever? No.
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When he was a baby, I did. So when you
say you haven't seen him pee in a litter
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box. In the last four years.
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That every time this cat pees, and most
cats pee two to three times a day, it's
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somewhere else in your house besides a
litter box. I think so.
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Wow.
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That's pretty incredible. Yeah, I have
not seen him. That's a lot of pee.
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What other behaviors do I need to know
about in here?
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Frankie.
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occasionally will poop not in the litter
box, but beside the litter box. But
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beside the litter box, okay. And we
actually had a situation one time where
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kids were here right after he did it.
Kids, stay away. Stay away, Oliver.
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disgusting. The kids almost putting
their hands right into the poop.
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When we were in the bathroom talking
about the fact that Frankie actually
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outside the box, right outside the box,
which is interesting, to me, it gets
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upsetting to Daniel.
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Is that something that has amped it up
for you in terms of Frankie's behavior?
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mean, it was one thing before the kids
were born.
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Well, it just makes it that much worse
because it's not just me having to deal
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with the terrible smell and my wife
having to deal with me dealing with the
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terrible smell. It's my poor kids. They
didn't do anything to deserve this. They
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don't know it's a bad thing. But I can't
imagine it's good for them to be
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playing in cat feces all the time. No,
of course it's not. Daniel knows that
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kids are getting closer and closer to
actually handling these feces. They want
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to know what's going on outside that
box. I don't think that his reaction is
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even remotely in proportion to what's
going on.
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Jackson, this is our bedroom.
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What's with the suitcases? This is our
attempt to stop this lunatic cat from
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peeing all over my wall. This is where
problems are concentrated?
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Yes. He's taken over the entire room.
Well, let's talk about that for a
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So, you didn't think I didn't notice
this, Tarp. This is not normal. It's not
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normal to walk into your master bedroom
and for it to smell like cat poop. It's
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not normal to have a cat taking a shit
on your bed.
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Yeah. Watching Daniel get really upset,
I'm picking up on who he is. Yes, he's a
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control freak. I'm thinking, man, it's
okay. This will be okay.
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Then he starts to explode.
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This is not normal.
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No. This is not how normal people live.
And we've been doing this for three
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years, and I'm done with it. Yeah. No, I
hear you. I hear you.
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This is not how people with pets live.
Pets are supposed to enhance your life.
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The animal's taking a poop on my bed.
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He's peeing all over my bedroom. I sleep
in this bedroom. What are you doing?
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Why are you doing this?
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Hello, Frankie, my love. Hi.
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It's okay, baby boy. It's okay, little
scaredy cat.
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Siamese are known to be genetically more
sensitive.
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than other cats see how dilated the eyes
are right now and how weepy the eyes
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are right and also you can tell he
manifests stress i'm seeing it even
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it's me sitting here and everything now
frankie is a really scared cat the fact
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that he's marking their bedroom tells me
that this is the one place that he
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feels the safest but i know the
atmosphere in the house is affecting his
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behavior so i need to give them some
homework and help frankie better adapt
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his new family okay guys
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Let's start talking some homework here.
As for you, Desiree, it's time for you
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to have a little bit of mommy time with
Frankie. So I want you to start trying
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to lead him out of that bedroom.
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Play, love, do whatever, because here's
the thing. If he is feeling separated
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from you, then for some reason he might
be doing what he's doing. Frankie is
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experiencing separation anxiety.
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Frankie's world has changed, and the
only thing that's been consistent in his
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life is Desiree. Now it's up to her to
help him feel more secure.
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Guys, obviously the suitcases are not
working.
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We're going to replace suitcases with
five different litter boxes in the area
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where he's been peeing in the first
place. Let's make him successful in that
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room that he's choosing to mark. Let's
put down litter boxes instead of
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suitcases. I want to have an experiment
here and see if there's anything,
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anything that he will use to do his
business besides the bed and the walls.
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Is there anything you recommend we do
with respect to Sawyer?
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I would like you to do this. Hold on one
second.
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This here is a collar cam, okay? I'd
like you to put this on Frankie and just
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let it go. You're going to get a view
into his life that may include a lot
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bullying than you think.
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All right, guys, I'm going to take off.
If you have any questions at all, you
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call me, all right? Thank you. Great to
meet you. Take care, guys. I know this
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is going to help him. I'm feeling very
optimistic.
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The eternal optimist. I hope it pays
off.
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And if not, Frankie's gone.
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All right, I'm out in front of Daniel
and Desiree's house for my second visit
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with them and their cat, Frankie. Now,
the last time I was here, Frankie was
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pooping and peeing all over the house,
but the energy in the house wasn't
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helping. From rambunctious children, to
grandma's cat, to angry guardians.
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We've been doing this for three years,
and I'm done with it. Yeah. I got a
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chance to take a look at their video
homework.
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I got to see these guys putting five
different litter boxes. I saw Frankie in
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Mommy Time, which was great to see.
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Thank you, Miss Mommy.
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And I saw the best thing of all.
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Collar cam. Frankie's collar cam was a
wealth of information, and I will
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definitely use all of it. Hopefully,
this time around, I come back. The
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are being addressed. Daniel's temper is
coming down a little bit, and we are
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getting somewhere, but that's hoping for
a lot.
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Hey, Desiree. How are you? Good to see
you again. I'm doing okay. Thanks. Of
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course, the most important thing here,
how are things going with Frankie?
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Well, Frankie has stopped pooping on the
bed. Whoa!
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It hasn't happened once since you put
the boxes down.
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Congratulations. Yes. Great.
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Daniel's been a little better spirits
with Frankie. Even petted him this
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morning. I like him a whole lot more now
because he doesn't pee in my bed
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anymore. Ugh.
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Ever since we put the five litter boxes
down, for the first time in three years,
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he's actually using the litter box to
pee.
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What? That's amazing, man. So putting
the litter boxes against the wall where
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Frankie was peeing anyway was giving him
an appropriate place to do his
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business. So no pooping in the bed.
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No peeing anywhere but litter boxes.
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Well, well, we went away on vacation for
a few days. Within a couple days after
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we got back, Frankie was peeing or
spraying on the wall behind the litter
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Desiree and Daniel say as soon as we get
back, he starts peeing, which is to say
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it can't be a problem with the cat
litter or separation anxiety since the
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anxiety happened when they got home. I
am really excited to take a look at your
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collar cam on Frankie, and this is what
Frankie saw.
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Up in the window?
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What's up?
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That's interesting. He looks out the
window, then heads straight for the
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boxes. Now, here we go. Five litter
boxes.
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He's going from box to box to box. Now,
this is the one that he likes the most.
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Yes. Which is why I'm so glad we have
this collar cam.
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Oh, and what's that?
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Whoa, look at that.
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Oh, oh, there it is. That was Sawyer.
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And of course, he freaks out. He has
every right to be territorially
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His territory is actually threatened.
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Those eyes piercing out of the dark,
that made me scared. So think how
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must feel. That's pretty amazing footage
right there. Now we know in the past
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what probably happened is that he went
to the litter box and he was scared out
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of there. Okay, we know that since
Desiree's been spending one -on -one
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with Frankie, he stopped pooping on the
bed.
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We know that giving him litter box
options, he's peeing in a box for the
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time in three years. We've seen in the
collar cam footage that he's running
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because he's spooked by Sawyer. What we
haven't figured out is why he's still
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spraying the wall. So I'm ready to find
the last piece of the puzzle.
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Yeah, there we have it. There we have
it. Five litter boxes lined up along the
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wall where Frankie likes to pee.
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So you guys told me that when he started
marking behind the litter box, right
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under the window.
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Okay, now I saw on his collar cam, he
opened the window and he's like, there,
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I'm going there.
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So what I want you to get is just sight
blockers, something that goes on top of
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the window itself so that when he's
sitting here, he's looking, he's seeing
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nothing. Let me get into the mind of
Frankie for a second. He may think
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something outside trying to get him.
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Maybe he doesn't think that way until
the stress level in the house has gotten
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so high that he starts getting freaked
out in the first place. So it's real or
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imagined outside.
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That's inconsequential.
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What's important is that we've got to
keep his stress level inside down.
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Guys, now the most important thing that
we can do is spend some time with both
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Frankie and Sawyer today. There's one
thing that's still really bothering me,
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and that's the dynamic between Frankie
and Sawyer, or lack of dynamic. I don't
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even know yet. The thing is, there's
only one way to find out. I've got to
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those two together.
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Okay, well, hi there.
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Sawyer. All right. Hey, guys, let me
have some time with these guys. I'll
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out and get you guys in the bed, okay?
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Hi, Sawyer. How about if I take a seat
here?
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Hi, Frankie.
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Hello, Bubba.
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Oh, good boy.
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Come here, my man.
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Come here. I'm going to lift you up
here.
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This is how we get social.
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Frankie.
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Definitely not the cat I met last time.
This cat is coming out. He's soliciting
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attention even. He's allowing me to pet
him. There were no problems whatsoever
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in terms of him acting scared, wanting
to get away, acting like prey.
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None of that was happening, and the best
part about it was he was totally
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ignoring Sawyer.
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I think that what we're seeing right
here, this is a failure to communicate.
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I think they kind of throw you guys
together and hope you're going to work
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out.
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Now look at this. Look at you two.
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Watch that.
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They're both looking this way.
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Not looking at each other.
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You're just going straight towards
Sawyer? This is perfect.
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First day I met you, there's no way you
would have done that.
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Sawyer doesn't care about you at all,
Frankie.
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Frankie gets up off my lap. He walks
right by Sawyer. He doesn't pay him any
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mind. We're seeing bully victim?
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No. I'm seeing two cats who have never
been introduced properly.
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Everything about their relationship is
right there in front of my eyes. I got
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everything I need.
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That was incredibly interesting.
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So what did they tell you?
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I think we have two cats who weren't
introduced properly, nor for a long
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period of time. I don't understand this
whole, we need to formally introduce the
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cats.
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What do we need to do? Put Frankie in a
tuxedo with a little top hat?
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Put Sawyer in a beautiful dress? Maybe
they'll dance together to really form a
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tight -knit relationship?
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Cats are not people. I don't understand
them.
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Are you guys ready for some homework?
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First thing, when they have meals,
they're in the same room. Also, playtime
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happens while the cats are in the same
room together because then they're
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associating each other with just the
most positive things in the world.
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Now, I would like to establish a timeout
room for Frankie.
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Timeouts for animals are totally
different from timeouts for children.
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It's not think about what you did wrong.
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It's I want to allow you to settle back
into your skin.
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In that room.
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We're going to have his favorite types
of things, toys and whatever else, okay?
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When the energy rises in this home, put
Frankie in the time -out room. Let him
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out again as soon as things quiet down,
okay?
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All right, guys, I'm going to leave. You
can stay right there, and I will be
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back in just a couple of weeks, okay?
Thank you, Jackson.
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If Jackson can't solve this problem
100%, I'm not having a cat. That pees on
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walls. He has one more chance.
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But if he pees on my walls one time,
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he's out.
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Now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Cat pee is a favorable term used to
describe the aromas in what kind of
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A, Chardonnay, B, Sauvignon Blanc, or C,
Zinfandel.
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The answer, after this break.
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Cat pee is a favorable term used to
describe the aromas in what kind of
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The answer is B, Sauvignon Blanc. The
term usually means grassy or tangy and
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the result of the phenolic chemical
compounds, not cats in the vineyard.
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All right, I'm outside of Daniel and
Desiree's house for my last visit with
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Frankie. Now, the last time I was
here... We're really getting somewhere.
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His pooping and peeing issues were down,
but not altogether gone.
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Now, I've watched their video homework,
and they've put up sight blockers,
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they've created a time -out room, which
is a place where Frankie can go and be
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by himself a little bit when the house
is getting out of control, and they've
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been working on reintroducing Sawyer
into Frankie's world.
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Coming out, guys.
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Today, I want to see that Frankie's
confidence is up, because that should
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translate into no accidents whatsoever,
and I'll be a happy guy. I can't wait to
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hear. Tell me how Frankie's doing.
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Well. Perfect.
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Perfect? You got no pee on the walls?
No. You've got no poop on the bed? None.
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No pee anywhere in the house? No.
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Yes.
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Fantastic, man. Daniel and Desiree tell
me there's no accidents whatsoever since
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the last time I was here.
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Hallelujah. So, guys, tell me what made
the biggest difference from the homework
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I gave you. We put the side blockers up
all over the master bedroom so we can't
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see out any window. The transformation.
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Unbelievable. I love that.
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Now, what about the whole time out room?
How did that go?
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He seems really happy in the room. He
really likes it, and he's really
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comfortable in there. Yeah. Last time I
was here, I saw the cats starting to
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interact in a really positive way.
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Have you seen any changes in their
relationship?
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I haven't seen Sawyer chase Frankie,
which is really good. I think with them
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playing together in the room, it helps
them be more calm around each other.
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I first met them, the place was a zoo,
and they didn't even know it. They had
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become numb to the whole thing. Now they
get it because they're looking through
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Frankie's eyes. And through Frankie's
eyes, this place is a little bananas.
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Daniel, I mean, you had just about had
it with Frankie. How are you doing with
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him at this point?
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Things have really changed. I don't have
all the terrible...
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energy around frankie anymore because
frankie's being a really really
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cat daniel has turned around completely
he was seeing red and yelling at me the
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first day that i met him and today he is
very genuinely talking about how he's
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regaining the friendship that he had
with this cat that to me is the miracle
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here fantastic news Here's what I'd like
to do.
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I'd love to see Frankie in his time -out
room, and I want to see the kids in
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there. So, Daniel, you come with me, and
Desiree, maybe you can get the kids and
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just meet us up there, okay?
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That's great. Come on.
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Success in each case is measured
differently. Right now, I don't need to
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cat jumping from cat tree to cat tree. I
don't need to see a social cat ready to
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play. Right now, I need to see a cat
who's confident, energetically balanced,
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and most of all, relaxed.
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And there's my man Frankie.
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Hello, Frankie.
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This is a nice time -out room between
the cat who wanted to get away from us
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first day and that.
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I mean, that's a huge difference.
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Well, hi.
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Come in, guys.
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Look at how adorable you guys are. Hi.
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So do you guys like the cats?
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You do? Good.
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Right now, we're in a quiet place, okay?
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Whenever we got cats in the room, this
is what we do. Ready? Go like this.
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For a couple of three -year -olds, these
kids were quiet. And because of that,
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Frankie didn't notice them at all.
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You guys have come so far.
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And I just want to give you guys all of
the credit in the world.
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Everything about Frankie that's changed
is because the energy in the house has
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changed for him. This room is sort of
the key to why he's so much better. So I
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think that's pretty amazing. Thank you,
Jake.
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I'm going to leave you guys, okay?
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So if there's anything you guys need at
all, you let me know, okay?
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Wait, bye -bye.
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Before Jackson started helping us solve
this problem, every time I would look at
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Frankie, I'd want to slaughter the cat.
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Now, I like Frankie.
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I'm not stressed to come home anymore.
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Jackson, thank you so much for restoring
balance in our home and to make our
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household happy again.
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Dinah.
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I'm on my way to go see Joey and Leanne
and their cat, Dinah. Now, they got
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Dinah to be a companion for their other
cat, Sugar, and ever since then it's
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been cat on cat chaos.
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Really pulling this couple apart.
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So I'm going to go over there right now
and see if I can help.
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I'm Joey. I'm Leanne. We've been
together four years.
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And we recently got engaged.
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We have two cats.
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This is our team, Dinah. This is Sugar.
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Sugar's more my cat because I adopted
her before we were together.
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We just recently got Dinah. When Dinah
and Sugar fight, they just blow up.
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Dinah sees Sugar.
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Sugar doesn't know what to do. She can't
get away quick enough.
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So I really think that the cats should
just fight it out. Then they'll be able
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to know who's dominant and they won't be
scared anymore.
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I believe the opposite. I hate to see
them fight. My biggest fear is that
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going to get hurt and we're going to
lose one. It's so bad that we have to
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Dinah locked up during the day when
we're not here.
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This is Dinah's room, also known as our
guest bedroom.
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She is not allowed to be out in the
house because she wants to kill my cat.
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Come here.
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Dinah, no.
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Hi. Dinah, no.
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I think Dinah is the bully and Sugar is
the victim.
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00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:59,070
It's just hard to see her as an
aggressive cat when she's loving me and
442
00:24:59,070 --> 00:25:00,130
me kisses all the time.
443
00:25:00,650 --> 00:25:06,390
If Jackson can't help us and Dinah
doesn't stop the aggression, then we
444
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:07,390
get rid of her.
445
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:11,210
Why do we have to get rid of Dinah? Why
can't we get rid of Sugar?
446
00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:12,470
She was here first.
447
00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:19,850
Hey. Hey, Jackson. Welcome to San Diego.
Thank you. Nice to meet you. I'm Joey.
448
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:23,410
Hey, how are you? Good. How are you,
Leanne? Leanne, good to meet you, too.
449
00:25:24,430 --> 00:25:28,470
So, guys, tell me about your cat
problem.
450
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:31,270
Dinah is aggressive towards Sugar.
451
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:35,270
Okay, how old is Sugar? She's about five
years old. Okay. And Dinah's a year and
452
00:25:35,270 --> 00:25:35,789
a half.
453
00:25:35,790 --> 00:25:37,550
What happens every time these guys are
together?
454
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:39,550
A lot of hissing, a lot of burping.
455
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:41,330
Yeah, yeah, that's no fun.
456
00:25:41,850 --> 00:25:45,250
Now, when you introduced Dinah, did you
just adopt her because you were like,
457
00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:48,270
oh, we have to have this cat? The thing
is, both of us work full -time jobs. She
458
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:52,150
nannies. And I'm a correctional officer.
I work in probation system.
459
00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:55,130
OK. We're not home a lot. So our
thought.
460
00:25:55,530 --> 00:25:58,570
Get her another friend. You can get
another cat. Oh, it's the get her
461
00:25:58,570 --> 00:25:59,570
friend thing.
462
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:03,170
Here's the thing. Oftentimes people
think they need to get their pet a
463
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:06,990
companion, but it's a tricky thing. Some
cats get along fine being alone.
464
00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:08,570
Others do better with companions.
465
00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:12,430
And it's not uncommon for the original
cat, like Sugar, to feel threatened when
466
00:26:12,430 --> 00:26:13,850
a new cat comes into their territory.
467
00:26:14,190 --> 00:26:18,130
Pretty much the first month we got
Dinah, we tried to socialize them, and
468
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:19,570
didn't work. We decided...
469
00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:21,070
We can't have them out in the house
together.
470
00:26:21,450 --> 00:26:22,850
Dinah gets the extra bedroom.
471
00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:26,430
Sugar gets free reign of the house while
we're not home. We've kept them
472
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:30,070
separate for nine months now. You guys
have been doing this for nine months?
473
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:34,810
Yeah. I think that the cats should just
fight it out. Never going to happen.
474
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,460
Of all people, Joey, who works as a
corrections officer in the probation
475
00:26:39,740 --> 00:26:43,100
should know the repercussions of letting
humans just fight it out. So, of
476
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,500
course, he should know that for animals
as well.
477
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Someone is going to get hurt.
478
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,940
Not to mention the toll it's taking on
Dinah being locked up in a tiny room for
479
00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:52,940
80 % of the day.
480
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,920
When you finally open up that door,
she's going to be that much more crazy.
481
00:26:57,140 --> 00:26:59,600
What would the alternative be if I
wasn't here today?
482
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:00,900
We rehome Dinah.
483
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,760
I don't want to get rid of her, but I
don't know what to do. I'm lost.
484
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,400
Both of our patients are running really
thin.
485
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000
It's hard because we're on opposite
sides of the team.
486
00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:14,620
Believe me, I've seen this a lot, where
it starts to sort of domino, that the
487
00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:17,720
cats wind up being the source of you
guys kind of getting on each other.
488
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:22,240
My heart really goes out to these two,
because really, all they wanted was to
489
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,220
get Sugar a companion, and boy, did it
backfire. I mean, it's bad enough that
490
00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:29,820
these two cats are living in a house
divided, but we have the couple living
491
00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:30,820
odds, too.
492
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,120
So. I think Sugar's actually under
there.
493
00:27:34,510 --> 00:27:35,510
Oh, really? Right now.
494
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:39,890
My first impression of Sugar was that
she was a really scared cat, so I wanted
495
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:42,290
to try and calm her down to let her know
that I wasn't a threat.
496
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:44,350
Come here, my sweet. Hi.
497
00:27:45,150 --> 00:27:46,150
What happened?
498
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:47,890
What happened?
499
00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:52,750
As soon as I started petting her, Sugar
ran right off the bed. And now, watching
500
00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:57,150
her do what she's doing, this kind of
behavior, that's what you'll see when
501
00:27:57,150 --> 00:28:00,430
Dinah's around, yeah? Yeah. See, and
that is what we've got to change.
502
00:28:00,650 --> 00:28:04,190
Sugar is acting like prey, and this
gives me a big clue as to why Dinah
503
00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:07,450
attacking her. So next, I need to head
off to solitary confinement where I can
504
00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:08,730
meet Dinah and find out more.
505
00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:11,450
This is Dinah. Hi, Dinah.
506
00:28:11,710 --> 00:28:12,710
Hi, sweetheart.
507
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:15,330
How are you? are you, my love?
508
00:28:15,530 --> 00:28:18,030
Oh, now she is absolutely gorgeous.
509
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:22,330
I was not expecting to meet such a sweet
and loving cat. I mean, this cat came
510
00:28:22,330 --> 00:28:26,290
right up to me like she was starving for
attention, and that is because she's
511
00:28:26,290 --> 00:28:29,350
being jailed in this room all alone for
18 hours a day.
512
00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:34,170
This cat is not a criminal and shouldn't
be treated like one. This is not a big
513
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:34,869
enough room.
514
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:39,890
This is a problem because you can't ask
a cat who has aggressive tendencies to
515
00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:43,890
come out of a place like this and be
balanced and normal. I mean, that's not
516
00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:47,970
going to happen. But we've got to spring
her out of here, like now. And we have
517
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:51,010
to make sure that, of course, because I
can see the look on your face, that
518
00:28:51,010 --> 00:28:51,849
sugar is safe.
519
00:28:51,850 --> 00:28:53,600
Yeah. Got to feed the two of them
together.
520
00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:56,820
So did you go get sugar for me? Yeah,
I'll go grab her. I want to be alone
521
00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:00,440
the energy between these two cats in a
very safe way, and I don't want the
522
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,520
humans getting in the way either.
523
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,560
I'm just going to put you right here.
524
00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:05,940
There you go, baby.
525
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,820
There you go. Now, what is it?
526
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,620
This right now is one of the hardest
parts of my job because I've got to
527
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:19,080
it play out between these two cats. I
have to know what they're capable of,
528
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,480
I have to know what they're capable of
in a positive way as well.
529
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:35,050
Whoa,
530
00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:37,530
whoa, whoa, whoa. That didn't take long.
531
00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:38,950
Whoa, whoa.
532
00:29:39,550 --> 00:29:40,730
Hey, no, no, come on.
533
00:29:41,930 --> 00:29:42,909
Come on, come on, come on.
534
00:29:42,910 --> 00:29:43,910
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
535
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:45,750
No, no, no, no, no.
536
00:29:46,030 --> 00:29:50,750
As soon as the cats are alone, Dinah
gives Sugar that warning hiss, and it's
537
00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:51,750
game on.
538
00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:54,010
There we go, my love.
539
00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:58,290
Sugar is acting like prey, and Dinah is
not only feeding on that, but she's had
540
00:29:58,290 --> 00:30:01,590
so much pent -up energy from being
locked away in this room that she's just
541
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:03,050
releasing it onto Sugar.
542
00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:05,430
Let's talk some homework.
543
00:30:05,650 --> 00:30:09,930
First, what we're going to do is a game
I call Eat, Play, Love. I want them to
544
00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:13,330
put up a gate, and on one side you've
got Joey with Dinah and Leanne and Sugar
545
00:30:13,330 --> 00:30:16,930
on the other. I want to see these cats
being able to see each other, get fed.
546
00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:20,960
played with and loved at the same time.
Next thing you're going to do is the
547
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,260
jailbreak. We're doing this in the form
of site swapping. What I want you guys
548
00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:26,180
to do is invest in both cats equally.
549
00:30:26,420 --> 00:30:29,640
It's time for Dinah to get out of that
room, but under strict supervision, of
550
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,800
course, because it's too small a space
for any cat, but especially for one that
551
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,100
has the energy of Dinah and the social
needs of Dinah. We've got to make it so
552
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:41,900
that Dinah owns this place equally to
Sugar.
553
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,360
I'm nervous about the jailbreak.
554
00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:49,640
I would like to keep Dinah locked up in
the room, and I don't want her to hurt
555
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,580
Sugar. The last thing I have is the cat
superhighway. I want to make sure that
556
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:56,600
if a cat wants to walk into a room and
go all the way around, they can do that
557
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,600
without even hitting the floor. Now, I
know that Leanne is nervous that Dinah
558
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,300
going to go after Sugar, and I don't
blame her. That's why we're going to
559
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:06,100
sure that instead of getting cornered,
she'll have all types of escape routes
560
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,860
around the house. So if Sugar wants to
get away, she'll have plenty of ways to
561
00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:10,399
do it.
562
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,980
If you have any questions at all, you
let me know, all right? All right, thank
563
00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:18,100
you. All right, take care, guys. I am
hopeful at this point that Jackson will
564
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:22,780
able to help us and Sugar and Dinah. If
Jackson can't fix Dinah, I'm sorry, but
565
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:23,780
we're going to have to rehome her.
566
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,900
All right, I'm back in San Diego for my
second visit with Leanne and Joey and
567
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:39,000
their cat Dinah and Sugar.
568
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,590
Hey! The last time I was here, we were
dealing with some serious cat -on -cat
569
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:47,510
aggression, which was causing a rift
between the couple because Leanne was
570
00:31:47,510 --> 00:31:50,790
Sugar and Joey was Team Dinah. Now, I
got a chance to look at their video
571
00:31:50,790 --> 00:31:53,590
homework, and I loved seeing Joey
building those shelves for the Cat
572
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:57,810
Superhighway. But what I didn't see was
Dinah coming out of confinement, and I
573
00:31:57,810 --> 00:32:00,450
asked them to jailbreak her out of that
room.
574
00:32:00,770 --> 00:32:05,290
And speaking of jails... After you. I'm
at the La Mesa Police Department in San
575
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:09,390
Diego County, and I'm here because I'm
bringing Leanne and Joey to jail.
576
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:13,770
Let's, the three of us go in here, okay?
Come on. I want them to see what it's
577
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:17,470
like to be Dinah, to be cooped up all
day in a room, what that does to you
578
00:32:17,470 --> 00:32:20,990
energetically, physically, mentally,
what it does to your whole being.
579
00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:24,650
They're going to find out. Guys, I'm
going to close that door, and I just
580
00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:26,030
you to see the world through Dinah's
eyes.
581
00:32:26,370 --> 00:32:27,370
I'll be back.
582
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,560
If you want to live life through the
eyes of Dinah, you've got to take
583
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,640
of it. You've got to have those walls
closing in. You've got to know what it's
584
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,880
like to feel that static go through your
body.
585
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,700
So it's like totally freaking me out.
586
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,100
In her room that we have, we have a bed
for her, and we have her litter box.
587
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:46,940
A window.
588
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,300
A window, yeah.
589
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,340
It's making me feel bad for what we do
to Dinah, for her to be locked up. I
590
00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:57,460
honestly felt super claustrophobic and
was ready to get out.
591
00:32:59,390 --> 00:33:00,390
You guys good?
592
00:33:00,610 --> 00:33:01,610
Yeah.
593
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:05,010
Let me out. All right. Give me the
lowdown. How do you feel? I don't like
594
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:06,430
I didn't want to be in there.
595
00:33:06,790 --> 00:33:08,230
Now, that's never going to happen again.
596
00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:10,130
And this is history.
597
00:33:10,450 --> 00:33:14,450
Yep. After Jackson locked us up in the
jail cell, it really shed a light on
598
00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:19,510
Dinah's world and taught us a lesson on
how it feels to be confined every day.
599
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:21,530
Let's go to your house, huh? Let's get
out of here.
600
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:25,910
Well, let's get back down to business
here. So let's talk about what went on
601
00:33:25,910 --> 00:33:26,809
last couple weeks.
602
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:31,330
At first, it was a lot more challenging
with the homework than we anticipated.
603
00:33:31,650 --> 00:33:36,390
Right. I think the most challenging
thing was getting Sugar to use the cat
604
00:33:36,390 --> 00:33:40,730
superhighway. Right. And, of course,
Dinah never got to use her cat
605
00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:42,130
since she was keeping her locked up.
606
00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:44,850
The other thing was the eat, play, love.
607
00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:48,690
Step one is to try to get Sugar out from
under the bed.
608
00:33:48,910 --> 00:33:50,830
At first, we really struggled.
609
00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:55,730
But as the homework went on, we had some
progress. We had Sugar, you know, out.
610
00:33:56,010 --> 00:34:01,190
pretty close to the gate, within six
inches maybe, that she still doesn't
611
00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:05,690
like to see Dinah. And I think Dinah is
still intimidating Sugar.
612
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:10,949
I'm really concerned that if we remove
the gate, Dinah will attack her and
613
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:12,750
go after Sugar. You think it's a
certainty?
614
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:16,530
Yeah, I'm probably 99 .9 % sure that it
will happen.
615
00:34:17,350 --> 00:34:21,770
Okay. I'm not hearing a lot of progress
today, and I think much of it has to do
616
00:34:21,770 --> 00:34:23,290
with them keeping Dinah locked up.
617
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,880
It's not only unfair to Dinah, but it
also doesn't give Sugar a chance to get
618
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440
comfortable with Dinah's scent being
around the house.
619
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,520
We've got a lot of work to do, so let's
get to it. I want to get up and walk
620
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,100
around and, of course, see the cats.
621
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,118
Come on.
622
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,800
Now it's time to go see Eat, Play, Love.
Now, the last time I was here, I
623
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,239
assigned this exercise to see if we
could get the cats on either side of the
624
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,760
gate without any issues. So today, I
need to see both cats comfortable around
625
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,420
each other. Most importantly, I need to
see Dinah, not be the vicious cat I
626
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:51,420
witnessed before.
627
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,380
Who's going to want to go in there with
Sugar?
628
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,960
I'll try and grab her. Good, good, cool.
Now, Sugar, as usual, was in her
629
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,720
favorite hiding spot underneath the bed.
So as Leanne was doing her best to lure
630
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,240
Sugar out, I sent Joey in to retrieve
Dinah.
631
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,320
Now, Joey, basically all I want you to
do is distract her somehow, because
632
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,580
now she's got her eyeballs on Sugar, and
I want those eyeballs off.
633
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,580
She doesn't really want to entertain the
idea of daring Dinah in the face.
634
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,720
Wow. This is bad.
635
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,820
Leanne, I need you to hold on extra
tight to Sugar.
636
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,580
I'm worried if she runs that Dinah could
hurt herself trying to jump that gate.
637
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,340
This is worse than I imagined. I was
hoping to see Sugar on the floor taking
638
00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:38,100
middle of the room with Dinah on the
other side. But I know.
639
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Okay, Leanne, let's go first. We'll be
back under the bed. Now, I'm just hoping
640
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,660
that Dinah doesn't feed on Sugar's fear
and try to attack.
641
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,700
Stop looking at Sugar and all will be
good.
642
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,280
There you go.
643
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:52,350
Nice going, Joey.
644
00:35:53,010 --> 00:35:54,010
There you go.
645
00:35:54,990 --> 00:35:56,210
Stop looking over there, baby.
646
00:35:56,510 --> 00:35:57,510
Sugar, you're okay.
647
00:35:57,870 --> 00:35:58,870
It's okay, Sugar.
648
00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:00,450
It's okay.
649
00:36:00,530 --> 00:36:03,650
Joey, if you could leave Dinah away a
bit with Treat.
650
00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:08,370
I'm challenging Joey at this moment to
find something right now to distract
651
00:36:08,370 --> 00:36:10,710
Dinah to redirect her away from that
gate.
652
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,510
Leanne, I need you to calm Sugar down.
653
00:36:13,850 --> 00:36:14,850
Calm down. It's okay.
654
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:16,950
Keep it together. Just one more minute.
655
00:36:18,450 --> 00:36:19,450
And she's gone.
656
00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:20,908
It's okay.
657
00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:22,830
So this was a breakthrough moment.
658
00:36:23,110 --> 00:36:27,210
Joey was able to use treats to redirect
Dinah's attention off of Sugar. But even
659
00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:31,410
though Dinah left, Sugar is still frozen
in fear. She's hiding in Leanne's arms.
660
00:36:31,570 --> 00:36:33,990
I mean, Sugar's fear level is off the
charts.
661
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:36,230
And it's a really sad thing to watch.
662
00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:41,010
Did the fear start before Dinah came
along?
663
00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:43,890
No. She played.
664
00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:45,630
She seemed happier.
665
00:36:47,340 --> 00:36:49,240
I feel like all she does is live in
fear.
666
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,420
Now, seeing these two cats interact with
one another and having a heart -to
667
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:59,020
-heart chat with Leanne hasn't led me to
the breakthrough that I've been hoping
668
00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:02,400
for because Dinah is making progress,
but Sugar isn't.
669
00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:05,260
All right, let's go, and I can give you
some homework, okay? Okay.
670
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,240
Guys, let's have a seat.
671
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,880
Sugar's fear level is disproportionate
to reality.
672
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,260
Dinah's not a super predator. Sugar is
super prey.
673
00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:20,270
And that's the problem. When Sugar sees
Dinah and runs underneath the bed,
674
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:24,270
that's acting like prey. So she has to
stop running, and then Dinah will stop
675
00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:27,390
chasing. So, first thing is, under the
bed, gotta go.
676
00:37:27,630 --> 00:37:31,330
Sugar needs to come out from underneath
the bed and find comfort in socially
677
00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:34,730
significant areas of the house, like the
living room. Hopefully, once she gains
678
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:38,450
confidence in her territory, she'll be
able to feel more confident around
679
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,260
At the same time, we're also going to
expand the cat superhighway. And we need
680
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:46,700
to stop locking up Dinah and get her on
that superhighway as well.
681
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,120
I want them to create different levels
on the superhighway so that Dinah can be
682
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,360
on one level, Sugar can be on the other,
and that way Sugar won't be hiding and
683
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Dinah won't see her as prey.
684
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,580
Leon, I've got a homework assignment for
you. I want you to make this downstairs
685
00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:03,360
as absolutely...
686
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Heavenly as possible for Sugar. I want
Leanne to bring all of Sugar's favorite
687
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,280
toys and treats and get her a cat bed
downstairs so that she can soak her
688
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,700
into it and feel safe.
689
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,280
You guys got a lot of work ahead of you,
but I got confidence in you and I'm
690
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,360
around. Give me a call, okay?
691
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,260
Sounds good. All right, I'm off to L .A.
692
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,720
I'll see you guys in a few weeks.
Thanks, Jackson. All right, bye guys.
693
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Drive safe.
694
00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:27,660
I think there's been a lot of progress.
695
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,420
Dinah still intimidates Sugar, though,
and if she doesn't move forward from
696
00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:34,440
here, then she's got to go.
697
00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:42,180
I'm back in San Diego for my final visit
with Leanne, Joey, and their cats Dinah
698
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:46,240
and Sugar, whose cat -on -cat aggression
issues led Dinah to be locked up in her
699
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,240
room all day.
700
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:51,240
Now, I got a chance to look at their
video homework, and I saw that they
701
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,260
released Dinah out of solitary
confinement.
702
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Are you going to jump?
703
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,740
Whoa, crazy girl.
704
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:00,580
And from the looks of it, she loves her
new freedom on the expanded cat
705
00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:04,180
superhighway. I also got to see that
they blocked off underneath the bed. So
706
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:08,100
instead of hiding, Sugar's spending more
time downstairs in socially significant
707
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,100
areas.
708
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,840
Hopefully today I'm going to see a
confident Sugar and a less aggressive
709
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,280
And if not, I'm concerned that Dinah's
going to be sent back to kitty jail or
710
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,240
even worse, rehoming her is still an
option. And this would tear this couple
711
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,880
apart because Joey doesn't want to get
rid of Dinah at all.
712
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,180
How are things going with Sugar and
Dinah?
713
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:31,780
It's been going good.
714
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:33,760
Really? Yeah, we've seen a lot of
improvement.
715
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,140
How's Sugar, first of all?
716
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,400
She's been doing a lot better. Is she
hanging out down here? Yeah. That's
717
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,320
You know, she loves the perch by the
couch.
718
00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:43,580
That's so cool.
719
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Yeah. Is the new Sugar a little bit more
like the old Sugar? Yeah, definitely.
720
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Wow.
721
00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:51,330
Things around here are looking really
good.
722
00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:55,770
I mean, Sugar's confidence has just gone
sky high. She's not hanging out under
723
00:39:55,770 --> 00:39:57,430
the bed anymore. She is coming
downstairs.
724
00:39:57,710 --> 00:40:01,650
She is hanging out with Joey and Leanne.
That's all I wanted to hear because now
725
00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:03,310
Dinah will follow suit.
726
00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:07,790
Now, since the last time I was here,
have there been any attacks? And I mean
727
00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:08,790
anything.
728
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:10,150
Nothing.
729
00:40:10,890 --> 00:40:12,630
Guys, that's incredible.
730
00:40:13,630 --> 00:40:17,430
Sugar's not running, so therefore
Dinah's not chasing.
731
00:40:17,770 --> 00:40:18,970
Ah, that's so amazing.
732
00:40:19,390 --> 00:40:25,250
Getting Sugar downstairs has really
changed Dinah and Sugar's relationship
733
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:29,390
each other and helped, you know,
rehabilitate Sugar back to the cat that
734
00:40:29,390 --> 00:40:36,230
used to be. All right, guys. Now, this
is so much different than the last
735
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:39,470
time I was here. I mean, it's so much
better. I haven't seen a cat since I've
736
00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:40,470
been here.
737
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,500
So what is it that's keeping them away
from you? It's hard because, you know,
738
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:48,460
the video homework, you see them down
here, you see them around, it's fine.
739
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:52,200
as soon as the camera and the crews and
everybody comes in and out, they both
740
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,058
head for the hills.
741
00:40:53,060 --> 00:40:56,540
So what are the odds that I get to see
both cats down here today?
742
00:40:57,260 --> 00:41:00,620
As long as everybody's in here, it's
going to be slim to none.
743
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Huh.
744
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,880
You know what?
745
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:08,180
Hey, guys, you get out of here.
746
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:12,990
You know, the crew and the lights and
the cameras and all that stuff, it's
747
00:41:12,990 --> 00:41:17,050
freaking the cats out. And if the only
way that I can see them is without
748
00:41:17,050 --> 00:41:21,010
cameras, then that's what I got to do.
So I go outside and I just jump on the
749
00:41:21,010 --> 00:41:24,010
monitors right away. I want to see
everything go down for myself.
750
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:26,990
It seems like she's calmed down a lot
already.
751
00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:30,750
So if we, like, ignore her and let her
get comfortable, she'll calm down, you
752
00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:31,850
know? Come here.
753
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:38,510
Now, what I'd really love to see happen
is for Sugar to sit on Leanne's lap and
754
00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:41,550
for Dinah to join the family on the
couch without any violence.
755
00:41:42,050 --> 00:41:43,050
Come here.
756
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:44,710
Come on.
757
00:41:45,850 --> 00:41:46,850
Look, here she comes.
758
00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:48,490
Going some of these?
759
00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:50,630
Look at Joey go, man.
760
00:41:50,890 --> 00:41:55,470
And on cue almost, Joey starts coming
downstairs with Dinah. He's guiding her
761
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:59,690
down with treats. She's taking the bait.
A little bit wary at first, but now
762
00:41:59,690 --> 00:42:00,990
things are taking shape.
763
00:42:01,330 --> 00:42:03,130
It's all right.
764
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:09,200
Hang out, babies. Hang out. I am
watching for any motion, anything that I
765
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,620
is threatening. Okay. We got Dinah, we
got Sugar staring at each other, and
766
00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:17,080
Sugar just makes that move, and I know
that if she just gets to her feet, it is
767
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,080
game over. Hang out.
768
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:21,540
Settled in.
769
00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:28,060
Sit. But she doesn't. For the first time
in these cats' history, it's crisis
770
00:42:28,060 --> 00:42:30,120
averted. That's it, man.
771
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,940
That's what I came here for.
772
00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:34,038
Hi, baby.
773
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,340
When I walk in the house, both cats kind
of scatter and they go to go upstairs.
774
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600
I check in with the two cats. There is
no violence.
775
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:45,100
They're not interested in one another.
So once again, I am psyched. Well, look
776
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:47,140
at that. They've never been that close
in their lives.
777
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:49,340
Nice, guys.
778
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,558
This is it.
779
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,940
This is what we needed to see.
780
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,660
Now, where are you guys now?
781
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,440
I'm pretty confident in saying that
Dinah has a home here and will stay.
782
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,800
Good.
783
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,240
I think Dinah...
784
00:43:02,490 --> 00:43:07,570
more of our cat now than just his cat.
Jackson has helped our relationship just
785
00:43:07,570 --> 00:43:09,950
as much as he's helped Dinah and Sugar's
relationship.
786
00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:11,390
All right, take care of those cats.
787
00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:15,550
Jackson, I just want to say thank you so
much. Without you, I don't think we'd
788
00:43:15,550 --> 00:43:18,970
ever be able to have Sugar and Dinah and
us in the house.
69673
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