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I have a cat named Puma. He's 10 years
old. He lifts his butt into the air, so
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he is coming out like a fountain.
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He pees on my clothes. He pees on my
pants. I am nine weeks pregnant, and now
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can't change the litter box.
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He's gone. If Jackson can't fix it.
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Riley has FIV.
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FIV would mean that his immune system is
low.
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If Riley does bite Mia, Mia could be
contaminated with FIV.
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He starts seeing a lot of tension
between us. He starts to yell and he
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agitated. We're probably going to end up
giving up Mia. I want you to help us.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy. I'm a musician by
night and a cat behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats, one -on -one, analyzing their
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behaviors and retraining them and their
guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Harry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans only have one.
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I'm on my way to go see John and
Samantha about their cat, Puma.
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We got Puma hacking John's beloved dog,
Daisy.
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But we also have peeing issues. I mean,
not just where he pees, but how he pees.
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And John is sick of it.
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He's ready to get rid of Puma
permanently, and I can't let that
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hoping I'm not too late.
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I'm Samantha.
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I'm John. We've been married for two
years. I bought a home right after we
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started dating, and then Samantha moved
in with me. I have a cat named Puma.
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He's 10 years old.
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Here is Mr.
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Puma Cat.
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I love Puma. He cuddles and he gives
kisses and... He pees everywhere.
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nothing normal about the way Puma pees.
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As the pee comes out, he lifts his butt
into the air. His butt is completely
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vertical. It's spraying all over his
walls.
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It's getting into the baseboards. It's
getting into the drywall.
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It's in our kitchen.
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It's in our bathroom.
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He pees on my clothes.
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He pees on my pants. He pees in my
underwear drawer.
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$600 worth of soup thrown by Puma. I was
in a meeting, and I'm trying to impress
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these people, and I reeked of urine.
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He is definitely doing it.
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As the pee comes out, he lifts his butt
into the air, so pee is coming out like
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a fountain.
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I have created a litter box.
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Fortress. Fortress, really?
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Don't bring it over, I'll gag.
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Okay, yeah.
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Johnny has a sort of gag reflex.
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He can't do this.
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We have two litter boxes, so if you want
to clean the whole area, it takes two
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hours to clean both of them. We just
found out that I am nine weeks pregnant,
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and now I can't change the litter box,
so it is now Johnny's job.
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Every time I clean that litter box, I
gag.
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Thanks. I'm borderline throwing up. It
is that disgusting.
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The last few years, I've tolerated Puma.
But now that we found out that we're
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going to have a baby, it's either Puma
gets corrected or we get rid of him.
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I have Daisy, who's a six -year -old
chihuahua mix.
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Daisy's my baby. Puma definitely
terrorizes Daisy.
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Daisy's scared to walk over and eat her
own food.
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We left the animals together alone.
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And Puma had attacked Daisy and slit her
ear open.
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She's got like a little tear in her ear.
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I don't want to be in this house that
smells like urine. My stuff's getting
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destroyed. If Jackson can't make Puma
stop peeing all over the house, stop
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attacking Daisy, then he's got to go.
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That cat means so much to me. It would
really break my heart. It really would.
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Hey. Hi, Jackson. I'm Samantha.
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Samantha, good to meet you. Good to meet
you. You too. Come on in. Okay.
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Jackson, this is John. Hey, John. How
are you? Good. Tell me.
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What's going on with your cat?
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You're here for Puma.
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He sprays over the edge of his litter
box when he's peeing. Okay. He also pees
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in various places around the house.
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I think he personally comes after my
stuff.
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It's my clothes that he pees on more
often than not. My bath mat. My rug has
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been peed on again. Thanks a lot.
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Do you think that Puma's got it out for
you? I do. Now, obviously, I haven't met
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Puma yet, but normally cats don't pee on
your stuff because they don't like you.
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They do it because they're territorially
insecure.
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I also am seeing this little one.
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Daisy's my dog. She goes to work with me
every day. So how does Daisy and Puma
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get along?
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There has been some aggressive behavior
with Puma. I mean, she's terrified of
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him. It's coming to the point where we
need something to be done.
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We're actually expecting now.
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Oh, congratulations.
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Thank you. Now that we have a baby
coming, this cat might urinate on him or
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urinate on his clothes or make him sick.
Okay, what's your solution right now?
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If we can't get this situation worked
out by the time the baby comes, then
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have no choice but to get rid of the
cat.
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Wow. Never going to happen.
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I just don't see any other option.
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They have a baby coming into this world,
and when this baby is born, cat is
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gone. They need to get up, walk around,
get some answers about what's going on
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with Puma. So this is Puma's litter box
right here. Okay. You can see that I've
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covered the entire area with puppy pads
to try to catch the pee.
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That's a lot of pee.
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Obviously, you're changing puppy pads
pretty often, right? Right. Now I have
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do it since Samantha's expecting, so I'm
the one changing the litter box. Wow.
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It's disgusting. I gag every time I do
it. What?
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Yeah.
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Your cat has elevator butt.
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Elevator butt spraying like robo -spray
all over the house. The cats would do
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this. Usually these are orphans from
when they were little kittens and they
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never learned how to squat.
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So look, this is something that Puma
can't control.
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But the good news is that there are
definitely ways to make it more
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So I need to go wash my hands, then
let's keep moving.
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I've talked to a behaviorist. I've
talked to two veterinarians, and
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says, I've never heard of a cat that's
done that before.
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And Jackson walks in, and he goes, oh,
yeah, elevator butt.
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This way into the bathroom. Okay.
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Now, between the scooping and then the
tape job that you're doing here, this is
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not a small job.
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It takes me, if I want to clean the
whole area, at least an hour.
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Every day? Every day. Wow, man, that's
heavy.
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I mean, this goes high up here. I mean,
there are times when I'll take a bath,
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and he has to break into the bath.
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Yeah. Not while you're sitting there.
Yeah, while I'm in there. Oh!
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While I'm in there. Oh, that's terrible.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
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Into the tub while I'm there, yeah.
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You feel for this guy. It's like, I want
to like the cat. I want to like the
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cat. He peed on me.
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It makes it kind of tough.
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So this is our front door.
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Where Puma's been peeing as well.
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Right, of course. Now, he's marking
there, litter box number one, litter box
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number two. Correct. All right, so I've
got about all the information I'm going
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to get. What I still don't know about is
Daisy and Puma's relationship today,
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and I just want to see them interact,
okay? Okay. All right, let's grab those
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guys. Come on. If emotions run hot,
that's when we have trouble. So I wanted
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see those two animals doing just that,
crossing one another in the hallway.
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So here's what I'm going to do.
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is when I say go, we're just going to
let Puma and Daisy get on the ground,
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I just want to see what happens when
they cross paths, okay?
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When Jackson said that he wanted to see
Daisy and Puma cross paths, I was upset.
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I didn't like it because I figured I
knew what would happen.
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So, Daisy, are you looking over here,
baby? Go ahead and just let them go. Go
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for it.
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Look at it immediately.
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Look at that. That's not ignoring. That
is fear.
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She's purposely not looking at him. She
knows he's there. The most unbelievably
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submissive move I've ever seen a dog
perform toward a cat. And I mean ever.
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And then away goes Puma. And look at
that. She wouldn't even look at him.
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I'm still filled with question marks,
and as a matter of fact, so are Samantha
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and John. I wish I had answers for them.
What I do have is homework. I think
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it's time for Puma and Daisy to call a
truth, okay? So I want to do an exercise
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called the Pet Path. I want you to hold
Daisy, okay? John, you will have Puma.
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Okay. And then call Daisy to you. You're
going to just help support Daisy while
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she's sitting there.
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What I'm hoping for is that Daisy's
going to want to be with Dad so badly
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be drawn towards Puma and make that
happen over and over again until we've
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erased whatever's happened to them in
the past.
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Let's move on to territorial problems,
okay?
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He is clearly marking, but he's doing it
in a very ineffective, strange way. I'm
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going to help you out a lot, John. Okay,
thank you. Between the gag reflex and
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an hour's worth of work doing this every
day.
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I'm going to provide you guys with
litter boxes that are capable of
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the spray from Elevator Bud.
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Cats get in them through the top. They
also cut down on the smell of urine, so
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it may even help your gag reflex.
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If he gets in that box, which I'm hoping
he does, there's no way that the pee
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comes out anywhere but where he's
peeing. And I want you to put them in
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important territorial areas where you
catch Puma spraying.
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Okay. One here, one in the bathroom, one
at the front door itself.
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Okay. Finally, Cat Common Sense 101.
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Pick up your clothes, close the closet
door. Okay. See if that helps.
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I just need to gauge, is it a relational
thing between you and him? And then
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we'll take it from there.
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If not, it's just about litter boxes. I
got answers for that.
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Okay. You know, I'll try these little
things. If that doesn't work, then we
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that Puma doesn't like me, and that's
the problem.
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Thank you. All right. Take care. Thank
you. Bye -bye. At this point, I think
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I've bought Puma as much time as
Johnny's going to give him. Jackson is
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hope. Puma's out of here.
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All right, I'm outside Samantha and
John's house for my second visit with
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and their cat Puma.
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And the last time I was here, man, what
a mess. I mean, Puma was peeing all over
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the place and having a pretty
antagonistic relationship with John's
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There's the dog wanting her food.
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Puma, go wait.
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So all I'm hoping for this time around
is that John is building a relationship
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with Puma and that Puma's not peeing all
over this house. If I got that, man,
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I'm good.
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Hey, John, how are you, man? Hey,
welcome back. Thank you very much.
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Hey, how are you?
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Good. How are you?
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I'm fantastic. Good to see you again.
Good to see you, too.
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So, give me some good news.
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I wouldn't necessarily say it's great
news, but it's new. Oh, okay. Tell me.
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Puma is using the new litter boxes.
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Okay. Which is good. That is? Wait a
minute. That's fantastic.
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What's the bad part?
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It's still pretty nasty to clean the
area, to clean the lid, to take the lid
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off. It still smells like urine in the
area.
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That's a tough one.
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There's no problems anymore with the
pee, but John's still repulsed by the
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that he has to clean pee from the inside
of a litter box.
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John has a sensitive gag reflex and a
really short temper. And what am I
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supposed to do with that? It's a cat.
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I think I might be hitting a dead end
here. I asked you guys to video journal.
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everything that was going on. So let's
take a look at Puma, shall we? So we
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fixed the bathroom.
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Here's our new litter box.
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Puma is using it. Covered litter boxes
are great for cats with elevator butt. I
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mean, Puma can spray wherever he wants
to, but the pee is staying in the box.
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Good boy.
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Also, I saw the pet pass.
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And he plays dead.
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Now, we know that animals absorb the
energy around them. So if we want
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to get along, we're going to have to
change the energy between John and Puma.
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here is our bedroom closet. This is
where we hide all of our clothes that we
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don't want Puma to pee on.
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I see they're following their cat common
sense homework.
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If you don't want your cat to pee on
your clothes, pick them up. It's that
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simple. John, now that you're shutting
closets and putting stuff up, has Puma
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peed on any of your stuff?
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No. So him not liking me?
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It's not the problem.
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Okay, well, good. So that, you know, I
want to talk to you about what you
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I still don't feel that it's where it
should be for us to keep him, really.
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Now that I'm the one in charge of
cleaning all these litter boxes, the
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level is hard to take, especially when I
know that we're expecting.
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Oh, that's important.
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Yeah. Now, obviously, we still got work
to do. Let's get to it. Ready? Ready.
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Okay. All right, come on, guys.
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As I'm talking to Samantha and John, I
realize that my work really is with
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I needed John to get his head around the
fact that Puma peeing while standing up
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will not go away. And if I want to keep
this cat in this home, I've got to get
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John to like Puma.
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Let's talk about the litter boxes here.
We've got the Buddha dome sitting here.
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But we've got puppy pads still here.
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Yes. I'm going to ask you to trust me.
Okay. Trust Puma.
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And John, would you please take these
puppy pads off this wall?
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Gross.
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Good. It's pink down here.
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Good.
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Done. I am going to do the honors of
putting this back here.
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Bang. Beautiful.
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It's normal. It's a normal litter box.
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You're making your wife awfully happy
because you're just like glowing right
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now. I am.
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Never having to put puppy pads up again
is amazing.
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Okay. I'll try it.
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If it does happen outside the litter
box, Jackson can put the damn pads back
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Listen, I want to do the pet pass again,
but I want to reverse it up.
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Hello there, Puma.
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So here's what we're going to do, guys.
I know you guys have been practicing it.
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I want to see what it's like, John, when
Daisy has to come towards you. I just
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want to see you calming Puma while this
whole exercise is going on.
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Let's get this going. I wanted to get
John to form a bond with Puma, but at
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same time, I'm worried that if Puma
lashes out at Daisy, I'll lose John
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I just want to give you, like, a little
more Cat 101 because it helps.
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One of the things that just calms cats
like crazy, these kind of touches. Yeah.
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You know, cheek, under chin, big time.
I've never had a cat before. I don't
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how they're supposed to be held or how
they're supposed to be talked to or
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with.
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They don't do stuff like dogs do. Dogs
are normal.
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Cats aren't.
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Here you go. Here's one Puma for you.
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Okay, the object is, I want to see if
these guys have a little bit of a
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connection, okay?
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So you're calling Daisy.
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Come here, dude.
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Daisy. Come on, girl.
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Daisy, come here. There we go. Now let
go with Puma.
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Jackson kept pushing the limits, and I
was nervous Puma would take a swipe.
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Look, they're looking at each other.
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That is the pet path.
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So proud of you.
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Good girl, dude.
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That wouldn't have happened the first
day. No way. It just wouldn't have
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happened. John is making Puma feel safe,
and that's building Puma's confidence.
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And a confident cat has no reason to
attack when there's no threat present.
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believe me, Daisy's no threat. If they
keep practicing this pet path, Daisy and
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Puma will be able to live and play in
the same space without incident. I just
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know it.
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All right, so guys, for your homework,
first thing is you continue what you
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doing with the Pet Pass. Obviously, it's
working really well.
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Also, John, your second assignment is to
practice holding Puma until you feel
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him relax in your arms. I think it's
really important that you stay in
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of Puma. Okay. The key here is in
getting John to enjoy Puma. If he can
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how to make Puma feel calm and secure
while he's holding him, then we can make
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this relationship mutually beneficial.
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All right, the next part of your
homework, John, I'm going to do
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never done before, which is I'm going to
leave you my entire page.
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Who carries around that many cat toys
with them?
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Everything that's in here, every last
toy, it is yours. I want you to spend
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time with this cat than you have ever
spent before.
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Even though Puma's using the litter
boxes, his future in this house is
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uncertain. The problem is, John has no
patience when it comes to Puma. With all
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the homework I'm giving him right now,
I'm going to make him learn to love
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When I come back here, I want to hear
John say that Puma is his family. Then
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I'll know Puma's safe.
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All right, I will talk to you in just a
few weeks. Thank you. All right, bye
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-bye.
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Wow.
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That is a lot of toys.
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Puma is still not 100 % trustworthy to
me.
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He's already gotten her once, and I
think she'll always be afraid of him
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of that one incident.
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If I can't trust Puma, we won't be able
to keep him when the baby comes.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Which country was the first to put a cat
in outer space?
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Was it A, Russia, B, France, or C, the
United States?
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Find out the answer after this break.
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Which country was the first to put a cat
in outer space?
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The answer is B, France.
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In 1963, French scientists launched a
capsule containing a cat named Felicette
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so they could measure her neurological
responses during her journey.
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All right, I'm outside John and
Samantha's house for my final visit with
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and their cat, Puma. Now, the last time
I was here, not only was I working on a
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relationship between John and Puma.
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But I was also working on containing
Puma's elevator butt, which is a
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that arises in cats who never learn the
correct way to pee.
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Hopefully today, John is focusing on the
relationship with his cat instead of
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cleaning up after his cat.
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Who is that?
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Hey, Jackson. Hey, Samantha.
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Hey, John. How are you, man? Good.
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It's good to see you again. How have you
been? Very good.
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Good, good. Well, more importantly, how
are things going with Puma?
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They're better. They're better. Really?
Good. When I first met you, you were
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dealing with an hour of changing puppy
pads and changing litter. Where are you
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at right now? How long is it taking you
to clean litter boxes every day? It was
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one hour of misery, and now it's down to
about ten minutes. Ten minutes? Ten
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minutes. You realize that that's normal,
right? You realize that that's a normal
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life. I timed him. It was just over ten
minutes one day.
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I think I've come to realize maybe this
is something that's not going to go
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away, and we're just trying to see what
works.
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So you can live with Elevator, but as
long as it's contained inside the litter
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box and he's not peeing on your stuff?
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Is that what you're saying?
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Yeah. Yeah. Good.
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You feel a little relieved?
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I do. I feel so relieved.
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Woo! All right. Now we can move forward.
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Before Jackson got here, I just assumed
that when Puma was spraying in the
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litter box, it was because he didn't
like me or he was just an aggro cat.
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But since then, I've learned that there
are reasons for him doing what he does.
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All right, guys, as always, I had your
video document, everything that you were
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doing when I was gone, and I do want to
go over that. So let's take a look here.
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I think you found his favorite toy.
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First thing is John playing with Puma,
forging that relationship.
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Nice. That's what I like to see.
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Oh, baby.
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Good girl.
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Wow, that was awesome.
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Very nice. That was a good one.
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Also, I got to see the Pet Pass
continue, and Daisy continued to get
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confidence walking past Puma. Oh, so
sweet.
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That's love.
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And that's what I like.
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Puma loves licking my face. It's a
little annoying, but it's okay. Yeah,
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it's sweet.
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There's really good stuff in there.
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I'm hearing great things about your new
relationship with Puma, John. I would
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actually like to see that in action. So
if you guys don't mind, let's go find
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Puma. Sure. I can tell from the video
homework that John is forming a bond
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Puma. He's playing and petting and
slowly realizing that he has two pets.
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For this case to have any kind of
success, I need to hear John say that
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not in danger of being kicked to the
curb. John, do you mind getting Puma
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here? Because I really do want to see if
he'll be confident enough to play while
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Daisy's sitting right here. That's a big
one. Sure.
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Oh.
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Hi, baby.
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Good boy.
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Puma, what do we got here? A man and his
cat.
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We're bonding.
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I can tell from the video homework that
John is starting to form a bond with
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Puma, although I know he still has his
doubts about Puma's relationship with
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Daisy. So I need to prove to him that
these two can coexist peacefully. You
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break out that laser pointer and see if
he'll play while Daisy's sitting right
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here. That's a big one.
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Take out that laser.
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Great. Nice going.
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There we have a cat.
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And in comes Daisy.
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Fantastic stuff.
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Wow.
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Hang on, guys. Don't feel like you need
to break this up.
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Yeah, this would have never happened the
first time we were here.
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Very nice. They've gotten pretty close
before, but... He would have never just
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walked right through the middle of us.
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That's the proof.
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All right, now I've got to put the
question to you, John.
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Are you going to get rid of him?
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No, I don't think so.
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I feel that he's more our cat now
instead of just Sam's cat. That's a huge
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deal, man. As far as I'm concerned, it's
a huge deal.
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Puma has been living in this house with
us for five years, and Johnny has never
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once referred to him as our cat.
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So to hear him say that felt really
good.
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All right, I hope you guys and Puma have
a wonderful life together with your
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baby. Thank you so much. And please let
me know if I can help you out. It was
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great to meet you. Will do, will do.
Take care, guys.
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Jackson, I just really want to thank you
for coming here and helping us with
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Puma. All the tools that you've given us
have made us better partners. I think
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it's going to make us better parents. I
know that if I have to clean the litter
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boxes at least for the next couple of
months, I'll do it.
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So I'm on my way over to go see Jimmy
and Maggie about their cats, Riley and
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I've already seen the footage.
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The violence is really bad between these
two cats. And Riley has FIV, a
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potentially deadly disease, which is
spread through deep wounds, usually from
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bites. I don't know how I'm going to
handle this one, but I've got to handle
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I'm Maggie.
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I'm Jimmy. And we've been married for 45
years.
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Right? Yes.
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So this is Riley.
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We have two cats, Riley and Mia.
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Hi. Riley is a snowshoe cat, very
friendly and very sweet.
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Until Mia could show up.
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No, no, no. We've had Mia for about
eight months now.
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Riley went after her right away.
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Scared me. Mia. We put Riley in a
harness every time she's out because he
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aggressive. No, no, no, not over there.
We got to do something.
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The cat fighting, it's causing a lot of
tension between us. I get really
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nervous. I get very protective.
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And then he starts to yell and he gets
agitated.
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We want to retire peacefully, but
because of the Mia and the Riley
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we're unable to do so.
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I'd rather spend my retirement playing
golf rather than breaking up cat fights.
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If Jackson doesn't fix the cat, we're
probably going to end up giving up Mia.
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I don't know if I can do it.
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We don't have any children.
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Riley and Mia are definitely our babies.
I can't see our lives without her.
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But Mia's life is at stake.
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Hi, Jackson.
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I'm Maggie. Maggie, good to meet you.
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Hey there.
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Hi, Jackson. I'm Jimmy. Good to meet
you.
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So, guys, tell me, what's going on?
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We got two cats, Riley and Mia.
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And the two of them are fighting.
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And Riley's got FIB.
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The stakes couldn't be any higher for
these cats.
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Now, in the past, FIV was referred to as
feline AIDS, and all that did was cause
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a lot of hysteria. We don't want that
because cats can live relatively normal
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lives with FIV, and they can't transmit
it to humans, just other cats.
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That said, FIV is still a deadly immune
deficiency disease, and with one bite,
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he can easily transmit it to Mia. So
this is literally a matter of life or
446
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:56,490
for the cats, and I am not sure that
this is a safe home for Mia.
447
00:25:56,970 --> 00:26:01,330
Right now, I fall squarely on the side
of rehoming Mia.
448
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:07,850
Ugh, you're killing me right now. I'm
sorry.
449
00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:11,450
Talk to me.
450
00:26:13,950 --> 00:26:14,950
What's going on?
451
00:26:15,130 --> 00:26:16,230
I want a solution.
452
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,710
I want you to help us.
453
00:26:17,950 --> 00:26:18,609
Me too.
454
00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:22,430
Of course that's what I want. I just
have a primary... I just believe in you
455
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:24,750
much. So I need your help.
456
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:28,630
Just looking at Maggie, I was going to
cry myself.
457
00:26:30,010 --> 00:26:31,970
I want to be able to try.
458
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:33,230
Please.
459
00:26:33,930 --> 00:26:36,110
I will give you everything I got.
460
00:26:36,330 --> 00:26:37,330
Everything I got.
461
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:38,470
I understand.
462
00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:40,770
Okay, come on, let's go.
463
00:26:41,490 --> 00:26:45,810
It is so rare that I'm going to walk
into a home and within minutes start
464
00:26:45,810 --> 00:26:49,750
talking about rehoming cats. But I've
seen the footage of these two cats. I
465
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:51,150
what's at stake here.
466
00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:53,470
It's a serious thing.
467
00:26:53,730 --> 00:26:55,030
All right, well, there's Riley.
468
00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:56,430
Come on up here. Maybe.
469
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:59,510
Come here, mister.
470
00:27:00,190 --> 00:27:01,430
Hi, Riley.
471
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:04,350
So he's really, really sweet.
472
00:27:04,610 --> 00:27:07,610
So he's got those ears that look like he
was out there, huh?
473
00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:09,130
Mm -hmm. Now, how old is he?
474
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:11,130
He's about seven.
475
00:27:11,969 --> 00:27:16,830
Seven, okay. They think when we got him
he was five. So he's clearly been on the
476
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:21,230
street. He's clearly had to defend
himself or, you know, scare others away
477
00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:21,889
his territory.
478
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:25,190
And that makes things harder to begin
with, you know, in terms of integrating
479
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:30,070
him with Mia because he's used to
defending his turf, right? He's used to
480
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:33,830
to say, hey, hey, this is mine, right?
Because back out on the street, he would
481
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:35,530
have to fend for food.
482
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:40,700
Now, although Riley's demeanor is very
calm, very cool and collected, he does
483
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:46,220
have the markings of a tomcat, of a cat
who's been on the prowl for years and
484
00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:50,300
years. His body tells you what he's been
through. It's been a tough life. I
485
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,360
mean, he's got scars on his ears. He's
got those jowls of a tomcat.
486
00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:59,620
And also, we know that he's gotten FIV
probably the same way that we're afraid
487
00:27:59,620 --> 00:28:04,200
he's going to give it to Mia. It's a
pretty sure bet that Riley got FIV in
488
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,119
first place.
489
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:10,200
in a fight out here. I mean, FIV among
the stray cats is rampant. That's how
490
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720
they transmit it, by fighting with one
another. Maggie, on the other hand,
491
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:18,440
you're kind of... You're a little
nervous. Yes, I am. But I don't even
492
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,100
doing it. Every time I mention it, she
gets mad. What's your theory? That's how
493
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:25,200
we fight, because she's overprotective
of him.
494
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,500
What Maggie doesn't realize is that she
can actually be putting so much nervous
495
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:34,800
energy into Riley that when she lets him
go in front of Mia, bang, there's a
496
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,800
fight.
497
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:39,660
And on that note, let's go meet Mia. All
right. Come on, let's go.
498
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,000
Mia!
499
00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:45,540
Oh, hello, little black cat.
500
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,980
So we head down to what they call the
den.
501
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:52,620
What are you kidding me? It's like a 10
by 10 room crowded with exercise
502
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:57,120
equipment and barbells and golfing stuff
and one little cat tree. That's no life
503
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,919
for any cat.
504
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,900
It's very heartbreaking having Mia in
the den.
505
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,880
We hate hearing her cry.
506
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,420
This kind of heightens the stakes for
me. This has to end. In order for this
507
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:13,540
be successful, these guys have to have
equal time with you.
508
00:29:13,950 --> 00:29:15,070
Equal time, okay?
509
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:18,730
So what we're going to do right now,
we're going to open the door, and I want
510
00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:20,450
you to get Riley on his harness.
511
00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:23,490
Let's let Mia out of here. Let her
explore the house.
512
00:29:23,710 --> 00:29:24,710
Here comes Riley.
513
00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:27,010
I just want to see what Riley's response
is.
514
00:29:27,550 --> 00:29:32,950
Does he give her just enough room to
move around without diving after her? If
515
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:35,150
that's the case, we've got something to
work with.
516
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:41,750
When we put the cats down, I thought
Riley was going to react.
517
00:29:44,140 --> 00:29:45,620
I was really nerve -wracking.
518
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,040
Come here, baby.
519
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,960
The cool thing is, watching her walk
around here, now here's where it gets
520
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,960
interesting.
521
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:55,640
You see that?
522
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Nothing.
523
00:29:57,460 --> 00:29:58,880
Pretty cool, right?
524
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,180
When Mia ran by Riley, we were all
expecting the worst. I mean, after all,
525
00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:06,740
months ago, these guys couldn't be in
the same room without violence. But now,
526
00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:11,080
it looks like Riley had months to get
used to the sound and scent of Mia in
527
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,400
den, so he's not instantly lunging for
her anymore. And that is huge.
528
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:17,040
That means we still have a chance.
529
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,220
We got something we can work with.
530
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,690
Great. But remember, this all depends on
the homework that I give you guys. So
531
00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:26,350
you guys ready for that homework?
Absolutely.
532
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:29,250
All right, here we go. Now, I still
don't trust these cats together without
533
00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:34,250
Riley in a harness. Mia is running
around like prey, which can easily tempt
534
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:35,490
aggressive cat into attacking.
535
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:39,030
And it wasn't that long ago that Riley
wanted to kill Mia on sight.
536
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,800
Even though things have calmed down, I'm
not taking any chances. I mean, the
537
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,800
stakes are just too high.
538
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,800
We've already started the first thing,
and that is letting Mia out. But what
539
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,900
we're going to do is site swap.
540
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440
When he's out here, she's in your master
bedroom.
541
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Mia's got to feel like she owns the
joint. Now she gets to be out in the
542
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,740
just at separate times.
543
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,560
The next thing I'm going to have you
guys do, I want you to be Mia's advocate
544
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,720
for the next couple of weeks.
545
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,840
Maggie's energy towards Mia is
alienating, and her energy towards Riley
546
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,220
smothering. So she has to back off from
both, but I want her to take care of Mia
547
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,560
in the same way that she's used to
taking care of Riley.
548
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:18,080
All right, and finally, now, Jimmy, I
know you're a golfer, so I got something
549
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,520
for you. Hold on one second.
550
00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:22,760
So, Jimmy, I present to you...
551
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:24,210
Jimmy's scorecard.
552
00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:28,590
Basically, as scorekeeper Jimmy, you're
going to make sure that you put one of
553
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:32,170
these stickers on every time you notice
something good or bad that Maggie's
554
00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:33,530
doing when it comes to the cats.
555
00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:35,210
Maggie, stop hovering.
556
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:37,970
That's going to be hard for her.
557
00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:42,790
And again, I'm going to have to keep
this on the table, that when I come back
558
00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:47,530
here next time, if it's just not looking
good, we may have to find me another
559
00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:48,530
home.
560
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,860
I'm nervous about the coming few weeks
because if we don't have a positive
561
00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:55,820
result, that would only mean rehoming
me, and that's not what we want.
562
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,300
All right, I'm taking off.
563
00:31:57,580 --> 00:31:58,580
Great to meet you.
564
00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:01,060
Thank you very much. We have to make it
work.
565
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,280
All right, I'm outside Jimmy and
Maggie's house for my second visit with
566
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,700
and their cats, Riley and Mia. Now,
Riley has FIV, a potentially deadly
567
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:25,520
deficiency disease, and one bite could
mean a death sentence for Mia.
568
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Last time I was here, Maggie's heart was
breaking at the thought of rehoming
569
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,140
Mia. And all Jimmy wanted was a peaceful
retirement.
570
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:38,380
I want you to help us. I can't leave
this home knowing that Mia's in danger.
571
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,960
Now, all I'm hoping for this time around
is we got these two cats getting
572
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,480
acclimated to each other even a little
bit, because if they're not doing it, I
573
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,880
have to reiterate, rehoming Mia is still
very much on the table.
574
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,920
Hey, Jimmy. How are you, man? Nice
seeing you again.
575
00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:54,119
Maggie, hi.
576
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,580
Hi, Jackson. Nice to see you again.
577
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,800
Welcome.
578
00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:01,680
So, guys, you have been on my mind quite
a bit.
579
00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:05,860
Tell me, how are things going with Riley
and Mia? Well, we have been doing your
580
00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,500
homework, and the swapping is working
really well. It is. She started roaming
581
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,780
around the house, and she loves it.
She's really happy right now. Good,
582
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,080
Hearing that Mia is getting equal
exposure to the house is huge. Not only
583
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,920
gaining more confidence not being locked
up in the den, but she and Riley are
584
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,500
getting more exposure to one another's
scent, which is essential in getting
585
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:26,940
these two cats reintroduced peacefully.
586
00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,400
Good, good news.
587
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:32,660
Jimmy, the homework I gave you last
time, you're already smiling because I
588
00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:36,820
you the scorecard. The last time I was
here, I gave Jimmy a golfing scorecard,
589
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,320
and I had him give Maggie birdies for
good behavior and bogeys for bad
590
00:33:41,540 --> 00:33:43,960
So let's take a look at what we got
here.
591
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,000
All right. So, Maggie, if you can't be
too happy about the bogeys I'm seeing.
592
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,240
I think he was being unfair.
593
00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:53,980
I'm already being nice. We had a few
arguments here and there. Well, the
594
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:55,240
hovering, they're still hovering.
595
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:59,250
Now the scorecard comes out and it shows
that Jimmy believes that Maggie is
596
00:33:59,250 --> 00:34:03,090
still hovering. And that worries me
because we can't be putting nervous
597
00:34:03,090 --> 00:34:06,830
into these cats when we're trying to
peacefully reintroduce them. And that's
598
00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:08,650
something we still have a lot of work to
do on.
599
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:11,830
Let's take a look at what you guys
recorded for me.
600
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:13,310
Whoa,
601
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:15,190
whoa, whoa, wait. Hold on.
602
00:34:15,370 --> 00:34:19,469
Why are they eating on opposite sides of
a gate? I never told you to do that.
603
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:22,370
You did that on one of your episodes. I
thought it was great.
604
00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:23,670
Yeah, but that's a...
605
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,280
different cat. Those cats didn't have
FIV.
606
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,500
Maggie and Jimmy are playing with fire
here. I mean, it's great that they're
607
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:36,420
taking advice from previous cases, but
when you have a violent cat with FIV,
608
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:41,940
have to remember that advice isn't one
size fits all. You had both cats maybe a
609
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:46,460
foot away from each other on opposite
sides of that gate eat it, which it
610
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:49,780
doesn't get any more perfect than that.
That's perfect.
611
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,760
Now, even though I didn't assign them
the feeding exercise, it seems to be
612
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,060
working, so I want to see it for myself.
But if I see one thing from Riley that
613
00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:00,560
I don't like, then I am one step closer
to rehoming Mia.
614
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,720
Well, hello, Mr. Riley.
615
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,320
There's Mia.
616
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,660
Come here. There you go.
617
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Good boy.
618
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:11,000
Oh, there's Mia.
619
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:17,440
Riley took one look at Mia and started
growling, and Mia knew she was in
620
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,440
and ran.
621
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Now, this flimsy baby gate is being
propped up against the wall. All it
622
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Riley charging Mia, and it's over.
623
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,180
Mia, hi, love.
624
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,300
Jimmy, try to get him over here.
625
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,800
You want some food?
626
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,240
There you go, baby.
627
00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:33,820
Let's go, Riley.
628
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,720
There we go. She's eating.
629
00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:38,140
Good girl.
630
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Come on, babies.
631
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:41,260
Come on.
632
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,100
There you go.
633
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:45,820
Good boy. There we go. That's what I
want.
634
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:47,319
That's it.
635
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,400
Let him make that decision.
636
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:55,420
Yeah.
637
00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:57,820
You go, Kat.
638
00:35:58,180 --> 00:35:59,180
Yeah.
639
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,080
That's it.
640
00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:03,120
Exactly right. Very nice.
641
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,900
Well, I was so happy that they're eating
together. I couldn't be happier with
642
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,180
that. Yes, I just love it.
643
00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:13,890
I'm feeling good about what I just saw.
I mean, he chooses food over Mia. That's
644
00:36:13,890 --> 00:36:17,770
encouraging. But we still have a lot of
work left to do before these two cats
645
00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:19,950
can be trusted in the same room
together.
646
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:24,810
Let's not forget, Riley is FIV positive,
and one bite could mean a death
647
00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:25,810
sentence for Mia.
648
00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:29,330
I did want to spend some time alone with
Riley. Just check in with him. Come on
649
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:30,229
in, Jimmy.
650
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,490
Now look at that boy. He's got his
harness on.
651
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:34,610
Very nice. Hi, Riley.
652
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,380
He is such a peaceful cat.
653
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,160
I'm going to take him up here for a
second.
654
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:42,280
This boy could be like a poster child.
655
00:36:42,620 --> 00:36:45,500
I mean, we put him out there as being
like, this is the face of FIV.
656
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,460
Because when people think of FIV cats,
they think of cats who will transmit
657
00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:51,320
disease, you know, cause harm.
658
00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:57,100
It brings out hysteria in people, you
know, where they think that you can
659
00:36:57,100 --> 00:37:01,560
it through the air, that if they lick
your nose or, you know, if they rub up
660
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,080
against you, they can give it to cats
and dogs and people.
661
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,680
We know.
662
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:09,350
Can't give it to people. Can't give it
to dogs. And the only way the cats are
663
00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:11,870
going to get it is what I call the death
bite, right?
664
00:37:12,350 --> 00:37:18,110
And that's all we got left here. But
really, baby, you have got to be a
665
00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:19,830
cat so you can be a poster child.
666
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:22,490
He is so adorable.
667
00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:29,950
So here's what I want to do. For your
homework, the hovering thing still
668
00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,030
dominates a little bit.
669
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,180
I don't want to see any more scooping up
of Riley, the hugging and kissing. That
670
00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:36,980
doesn't happen. I know it's going to be
hard.
671
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,060
Now, let's talk about the feeding.
672
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,400
I want you to step up the exercise
itself.
673
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,240
When they start eating, I want you to
pick the gate up a foot off the ground.
674
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,109
That's it.
675
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:51,650
Now, I may not have assigned that
feeding exercise, but since we just saw
676
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:55,350
it could be done safely, I want to step
it up and build on it. The next thing
677
00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:58,810
I'm going to have you guys do, harness
work. What I want you to do is I want
678
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:02,870
to be on a harness, for sure, but I also
want her to be on a harness as well. I
679
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:07,390
want to see you do it every single day.
If Riley's calm and Mia's controlled so
680
00:38:07,390 --> 00:38:11,310
she's not darting around the room like
prey, we have a chance at peacefully
681
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:13,190
reintegrating these guys with less
attacks.
682
00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:18,100
Now, I need to see this work, because
with life and death still on the table,
683
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,420
can't leave this house if I still think
she's in danger.
684
00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:25,200
All right, guys, I will be back in a few
weeks if you have any questions at all,
685
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:27,180
any concerns, any problems. You call me,
okay?
686
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,158
Will do.
687
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,700
This homework needs to work because we
really love to have Mia be part of our
688
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:36,200
family. We had a good day today, but the
stakes are still there.
689
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,160
There's definitely no room for mistake
because that's going to mean rehoming
690
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,860
Mia, and that's going to break my heart.
691
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:49,120
All right, I'm outside Maggie and
Jimmy's house for my final visit with
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00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,360
their cats, Riley and Mia. Now, when I
first met them, Riley, who has FIV,
693
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,200
wanted to kill Mia. And one bite from
Riley could mean that Mia would contract
694
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,200
the disease.
695
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:02,780
But the thought of rehoming Mia was
devastating to Maggie.
696
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:04,240
I want you to help her.
697
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:08,600
Now, in their video homework, I saw them
working on the leash exercise and
698
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,420
raising the baby gate during the feeding
exercise to get these cats more
699
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:13,520
acclimated to one another.
700
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,700
Now, today I'm hoping to see less
hovering from Maggie and absolutely no
701
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,820
Riley infecting Mia with FIV.
702
00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:24,760
Otherwise, rehoming is still very much
on the table. Hi, Justin.
703
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Welcome back.
704
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,080
Hey, Jimmy. How are you? Good to see you
again. How you been?
705
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,580
So, tell me, how are things going with
me and Riley?
706
00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:41,840
No fights at all. Then we can throw a
party. That's exactly what I wanted.
707
00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:42,980
That's good news.
708
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,960
We're doing the side swapping every day.
And, of course, the feeding too. But
709
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,560
the most effective piece of homework for
me is the less hovering. I think it's
710
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,560
made Riley a much happier cat.
711
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:56,680
Everything that you're telling me is
really positive.
712
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,620
So here's what I want to do. I want to
get up. We're going to go to the living
713
00:39:59,620 --> 00:40:03,140
room. We're going to get both cats,
start with them on harnesses. Then we're
714
00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:04,140
going to take those harnesses off.
715
00:40:04,340 --> 00:40:05,340
Whoa.
716
00:40:05,509 --> 00:40:09,850
Yeah, I need to see the two cats
together in order to make a final
717
00:40:09,850 --> 00:40:14,970
need to know that these guys can be in a
room without Riley deciding that he's
718
00:40:14,970 --> 00:40:16,070
got to kill Mia.
719
00:40:16,510 --> 00:40:18,610
All right. Let's get in there. All
right. Come on, guys, let's go.
720
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:22,590
We have to bear in mind what we're
dealing with here, an aggressive cat who
721
00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:27,870
FIV positive and a victim cat who is
not. We have to make sure that Mia is
722
00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:31,330
and I'm not going to leave here today
until I'm 100 % convinced.
723
00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:32,870
Come on. It's okay,
724
00:40:33,730 --> 00:40:35,390
baby. You can sit on the floor with him.
725
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:40,990
So I'm going to have you start by
starting to loosen up the harness pieces
726
00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:41,990
little bit, okay?
727
00:40:43,930 --> 00:40:45,530
Okay, you can go ahead and take that
off, Jimmy.
728
00:40:46,990 --> 00:40:52,350
What a good girl you are. I want to let
her do what she's going to do because I
729
00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:56,530
just need to see that Riley is not going
to make the charge.
730
00:40:56,870 --> 00:41:00,330
Now, at some point, Jimmy, you're just
going to stop holding him with your left
731
00:41:00,330 --> 00:41:03,290
hand. There you go. Keep petting. Keep
petting.
732
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:05,190
That's it.
733
00:41:05,530 --> 00:41:07,730
Now, get your hands off, please.
734
00:41:08,450 --> 00:41:09,570
Let's just sit here.
735
00:41:10,690 --> 00:41:11,690
Good girl.
736
00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:14,250
Good girl.
737
00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:16,610
Now I want to see what happens.
738
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:19,230
Now I want to see what happens.
739
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:20,750
It's okay.
740
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:24,970
And what's he going to do?
741
00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:27,050
He's going to walk that way.
742
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:28,750
That's what we wanted.
743
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,520
That's it. You see that? You see that?
744
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Man, that's good news. Riley is not
interested at all in me right in front
745
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,480
him. But it just happened one time, and
I want to make sure I didn't just get
746
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,160
lucky, so we're going to do it again.
747
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,400
We're going to hang.
748
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:47,420
Good girl. Now I want to see what
happens when she walks away, because she
749
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Okay, Riley.
750
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,660
Let's just sit here.
751
00:41:52,340 --> 00:41:53,840
She's going to walk past him.
752
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,760
Look at that.
753
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:59,340
Good girl, Mia.
754
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,420
Come here, my sweet thing.
755
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,740
Now he's watching her. Here's the big
test, right?
756
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,680
Mia, good girl.
757
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,860
You see that? You see that?
758
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:12,740
So I can't believe this.
759
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,038
That's it.
760
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,100
That's what I needed. Three times these
cats have crossed paths.
761
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,040
Three times Riley's not going after her.
Now I know things have substantially
762
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,200
changed in this house.
763
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,820
Fantastic. You.
764
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:28,270
are a champ, little girl.
765
00:42:28,510 --> 00:42:32,090
There you have it. Do you see what's
going on here? It's amazing.
766
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:34,930
I can't believe it. Oh, I'd like to see
you happy.
767
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:40,810
I feel like right now we have an
absolutely fine relationship between
768
00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:43,490
cats, and I feel good.
769
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:46,030
You can breathe, huh? You can breathe?
Are you breathing?
770
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:47,250
Are you breathing?
771
00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:51,490
Now, what I saw today proves to me that
this case is an absolute success.
772
00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:55,850
Now that Mia and Riley don't have to
compete for territory, for food, or for
773
00:42:55,850 --> 00:42:59,610
their guardian's love, Mia's more
confident, and Riley has no interest in
774
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:04,210
attacking her. Now, of course, I can't
change the fact that Riley has FIV, so
775
00:43:04,210 --> 00:43:07,910
Maggie and Jimmy will always need to
supervise Riley around Mia, but I leave
776
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:10,090
here knowing today that they can
cohabitate peacefully.
777
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:14,580
I feel like I can give you the news
right now that I feel like you can keep
778
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:18,060
these two cats here. I really do. I
think that it's going to be okay.
779
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Make you happy?
780
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,720
Well, good. I like making you happy.
781
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,520
I really do.
782
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,280
When Jackson said we could keep Mia, I
felt joy right away.
783
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,740
It was a great relief.
784
00:43:30,980 --> 00:43:32,200
It was such a great relief.
785
00:43:32,620 --> 00:43:33,700
I was so happy.
786
00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:39,550
Take care. We are definitely very, very
grateful to Jackson. If it wasn't for
787
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:41,150
Jackson, we wouldn't have a family
together.
788
00:43:41,590 --> 00:43:44,010
We're looking forward to a peaceful
retirement.
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