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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,260 Lucy has a mean streak, and my biggest fear is that Lucy will hurt the baby. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Hey, girl. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,180 If it came down to a choice between my family and a cat, my 4 00:00:15,180 --> 00:00:16,420 child comes first. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Chubbs is very aggressive, very dominating, and Cole's blind. 6 00:00:23,260 --> 00:00:25,500 It's literally a fight every single day. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,700 just wearing us out, and we want our sanity back. My goal in life is to go 8 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:38,280 behaviorist work with cats, and if I can't get these two to get along, then I 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,960 can never achieve those goals. 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,760 I'm Jackson Galaxy. I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,060 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 12 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:02,600 but I've never met one I couldn't help. 13 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:07,420 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 14 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,480 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 15 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:16,440 When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,260 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 17 00:01:20,260 --> 00:01:21,980 her. I'm their last hope. 18 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,700 Are you all right? 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,380 I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one. 20 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,920 Hey, 21 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,520 girl. 22 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:54,340 So what do you get when you cross an incredibly aggressive cat who's biting 23 00:01:54,340 --> 00:01:58,360 scratching, drawing blood on a daily basis, and a six -month pregnant woman? 24 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,740 get a powder keg of a situation, and that's what I'm dealing with right now. 25 00:02:01,740 --> 00:02:04,220 I'm heading over to make sure that powder keg just doesn't go off. 26 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,619 I'm John. 27 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:07,559 I'm Sarah. 28 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,560 And we're dating. 29 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,720 With a baby on the way. 30 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:13,260 We have two cats that don't get along very well. 31 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:16,420 Lucy is my cat. 32 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,940 I call her Lucifer sometimes. 33 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:19,860 I've had her for three years. 34 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:25,220 My cat's Kylie, and I've had her for about 10 years. We've been dating, Sarah 35 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:29,420 and I, for about 15 months, and we were longtime friends before that. The only 36 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:31,880 stress in our relationship is Lucy. 37 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,140 Lucy has a mean streak. Lucy likes to sneak up on Kylie. 38 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:44,900 She never had that problem before we moved in here a year ago. 39 00:02:45,140 --> 00:02:48,820 You'll be petting her, and she'll be purring, and all of a sudden, she'll 40 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:50,020 unleash and attack you. 41 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:52,270 Oh, my God. 42 00:02:52,650 --> 00:02:56,190 She'll wrap herself around you. She'll bite down and pierce your skin. 43 00:02:56,970 --> 00:03:00,750 Lucy is locked onto my arm, and I can't get her off, and I want to cry. 44 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:03,970 If you try to shove her off, she'll come back even harder. 45 00:03:04,330 --> 00:03:05,490 Ow! Ow, ow, ow. 46 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:08,210 And they usually leave a mark. 47 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:12,150 Even with the sweatshirt on, she dug right through. I don't know what to do 48 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:13,150 this cat. 49 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:18,590 She sent me to the hospital with a cat bite that got infected and immobilized 50 00:03:18,590 --> 00:03:19,590 entire arm. 51 00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:25,100 We want to bring our baby into the world knowing that our home is safe. 52 00:03:25,340 --> 00:03:31,960 If it came down to a choice between my family and a cat, my child comes first. 53 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:34,940 Just thinking about giving her up breaks my heart. 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,780 I mean, she's my first baby. 55 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,320 One of our cats is going to have to go, and I'm afraid it's going to be Lucy. 56 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,900 That's the most honest answer I think I've heard. 57 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:53,670 I'm going in right now for my first visit with John and Sarah. 58 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:56,970 They got a hard deadline here. We got three months and we're going to have a 59 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,350 baby. Hey, how are you? 60 00:03:59,590 --> 00:04:01,010 Hey, Sarah. Hey, I'm John. 61 00:04:01,270 --> 00:04:04,250 I'm good to meet you guys. I got to be honest with you. This one makes me a 62 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:07,430 little nervous because Sarah's six months pregnant. They've got an 63 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:11,570 cat named Lucy. I'm concerned as well as them. So I'm going to go in right now. 64 00:04:11,590 --> 00:04:15,650 See if there's anything I can do about it. Tell me what's going on. We have 65 00:04:15,650 --> 00:04:19,160 Lucy. Our younger cat, she's got a lot of energy. 66 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:23,660 She's really rambunctious. She likes to scratch and bite. 67 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,220 Wait, hold on. This is rambunctious? Yeah. 68 00:04:26,780 --> 00:04:30,580 Most of the time when I see cats biting and biting hard, it's because they could 69 00:04:30,580 --> 00:04:32,660 have been taught by humans that hands are toys. 70 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:35,340 So they go after the hands with teeth. 71 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:40,120 Kylie is our other cat. We keep Lucy in the back of the house all day, and Kylie 72 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,800 has the front. They don't get along. 73 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:46,580 Lucy will creep up on Kylie, wait until she has let her guard down, and then 74 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:47,580 sneak attack her. 75 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:53,820 About six months ago, she actually sent me to the hospital with a cat bite. 76 00:04:54,990 --> 00:04:59,510 She grabbed on with her back claws here, so she was like this, you know, biting 77 00:04:59,510 --> 00:05:02,170 and immediately got infected within three days. 78 00:05:02,490 --> 00:05:05,290 Huge swollen, couldn't use my hand for anything. 79 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:06,830 It's pretty bad. 80 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:11,510 When the cat sends you to the hospital, that's when my meter goes to red, and I 81 00:05:11,510 --> 00:05:13,830 know we've got to step in and make something happen right now. 82 00:05:14,130 --> 00:05:18,910 If I had a bite of that magnitude, I don't know what I would do. I can't take 83 00:05:18,910 --> 00:05:20,630 antibiotics being pregnant. 84 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:21,970 I hadn't even thought of that. 85 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:49,290 I wouldn't hesitate to find a new home for Lucy. 86 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:54,020 It's... It's heartbreaking to think about giving up my pet that I adore. 87 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,040 I could tell that we had a major problem on our hands. They were both panicked, 88 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,180 it seemed to me, and I don't blame them. They're about to have a baby, and we've 89 00:06:03,180 --> 00:06:04,180 got an aggressive cat. 90 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:06,440 Lucy draws blood on a daily basis. 91 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:09,980 We've got a lot of things to look at, what I need to look at. 92 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:11,259 It's the territory. 93 00:06:11,260 --> 00:06:15,340 So let's get cracking. Let's move on. I had to see who owned what. What part of 94 00:06:15,340 --> 00:06:18,900 the house does Lucy own? What part of the house does Kylie own? But I do want 95 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,440 make sure I'm not putting a pregnant woman in danger. 96 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:24,520 Kylie has the habit of cornering herself over here. 97 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:25,740 There's Kylie. 98 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,900 Baby doll. 99 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:29,500 Hi, my love. 100 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,840 When I see a cat like Kylie scrunched behind a TV, it's the epitome of lack of 101 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,680 confidence. Do you mind if I get you out of there? Is that okay? 102 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,320 You're a lot of cat. 103 00:06:42,020 --> 00:06:46,000 She's inviting attack. If you act like prey, you're going to be treated like 104 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,160 prey. And that's what Kylie was doing. So we have to really up her confidence 105 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,820 level. So, obviously something that we're going to have to look at. 106 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:54,180 Let's keep going. 107 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,740 What do we got? This is our soon -to -be nursery. 108 00:06:58,620 --> 00:07:01,340 Obviously it's a little cluttered, a little crowded right now. 109 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:03,100 How soon are we looking at getting this done? 110 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:06,040 Basically within six to eight weeks. 111 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:09,570 Guess what? 112 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:12,650 Probably a little sooner, huh? A lot sooner. 113 00:07:12,890 --> 00:07:17,150 It's not just going to be about the architecture in here. It's the smells, 114 00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:21,850 sights, the sounds. We're going to work all that stuff in here before the baby's 115 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:25,430 born, way before the baby's born. They have to get used to the environment. 116 00:07:25,850 --> 00:07:30,390 Basically, cats are really big creatures of habit, and I've got to start getting 117 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:34,170 them used to this space so when the new baby comes, Lucy won't feel threatened 118 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:36,570 and attack John, Sarah, or the baby. 119 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:39,260 Okay, so we got Lucy in here. 120 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:40,580 Hi, Lucy. 121 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,420 John, I'm going to ask you to come in here and just show me what it is that 122 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:48,080 would normally do. I want to see John handling her. I got to think there's 123 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,780 way that he pets her that sets her up. 124 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,760 I'm not trying to get you sent back to the hospital. Believe me. 125 00:07:54,420 --> 00:07:59,220 What I'm trying to do is approach that line with her, what I call the challenge 126 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:00,480 line. Hey, girl. 127 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Oh, okay, okay. 128 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:05,600 Ow. Sorry, sorry, sorry. That stings. 129 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,680 I can't believe this. I turn my head for one second, and boom. Sarah puts her 130 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:15,480 hand the one place I didn't want it, on Lucy, and Lucy attacks her. The last 131 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,140 thing I wanted to happen for Lucy to attack Sarah, who's pregnant. 132 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:25,680 Sarah immediately jumped out and ran out of the room. Her wounds were kind of 133 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,660 nasty looking, considering they happened so fast, but there were no bites. The 134 00:08:29,660 --> 00:08:34,580 vast majority of cat bites get infected, so I was just really relieved not to 135 00:08:34,580 --> 00:08:35,580 see a puncture mark. 136 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,640 I don't like the fact when I look at this. I mean, it's okay for me. It's not 137 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,700 okay for you. When Lucy finally went after Sarah the way she did, just 138 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:48,420 onto her arm, she did it with the natural ferocity of the hunter that she 139 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:50,720 realize that our deadline is not when this baby is born. 140 00:08:50,980 --> 00:08:55,800 Our deadline is now. We're dealing with a cat that's predictable, and that is a 141 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,800 huge plus. 142 00:08:56,950 --> 00:09:01,470 John and Sarah think that this is totally unprovoked. No. What she is is a 143 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:05,730 bomb. This is the cat who's locked away in the back of the house all the time. A 144 00:09:05,730 --> 00:09:10,430 cat with incredible drive is a hunter, and all of that energy is going to come 145 00:09:10,430 --> 00:09:14,510 out where you don't want it unless you take the responsibility to drain it 146 00:09:15,490 --> 00:09:17,690 That baby is like a prime target. 147 00:09:18,030 --> 00:09:19,570 I mean, no, it's true, right? 148 00:09:20,010 --> 00:09:23,630 Now, the nursery has got to be done, and it's got to be done by the time I get 149 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:24,349 back here. 150 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:27,870 You are going to be in charge of the play time. 151 00:09:28,290 --> 00:09:31,030 You're going to have two play sessions a day, morning and night. 152 00:09:31,420 --> 00:09:33,540 Playtime is essential for Lucy, who bites. 153 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:37,300 We've got to get her moving on something that will drain energy off of her in a 154 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:41,120 natural way. Give her what she needs, but don't present humans as targets. 155 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:44,640 In the middle of your workday, I want you to start taking breaks and have 156 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,600 supervised visits with them. When I use supervised visits, it's basically a way 157 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,320 of taking extra responsibility with two cats who just don't get along. 158 00:09:51,620 --> 00:09:54,440 If the cats wanted to kill each other, they would have done it by now, and it 159 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,279 hasn't happened. 160 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,100 Over the first week, you're going to start seeing a change in her behavior 161 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:03,680 because she's not going to be looking at Kylie to be a target. And if Kylie's 162 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,920 not a target, she's not going to act like a scared cat. 163 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:09,760 And that will up her confidence level. Okay. Got it? Yeah. All right, good. It 164 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,000 was really scary seeing Sarah being attacked by Lucy. Lucy is the one that's 165 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,180 aggressor. I would like to just give up Lucy. 166 00:10:27,850 --> 00:10:31,390 I'm going in for my second visit now with John and Sarah, who's very pregnant 167 00:10:31,390 --> 00:10:35,130 this point. Now, I gave them basic homework last time about their cat, 168 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:37,230 whose violence I saw firsthand. 169 00:10:37,550 --> 00:10:38,329 Hey, girl. 170 00:10:38,330 --> 00:10:39,330 Oh, God. 171 00:10:40,670 --> 00:10:41,670 Jackson! John! 172 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:45,790 Hi! All I can hope for this time is the attacks are down, because we really 173 00:10:45,790 --> 00:10:47,250 don't have a lot of room to work with. 174 00:10:47,450 --> 00:10:49,790 So let me just ask you one thing so we can get it out of the way, okay? 175 00:10:50,630 --> 00:10:51,630 Have we had blood? 176 00:10:53,090 --> 00:10:55,030 Well... Uh -oh. 177 00:10:56,910 --> 00:10:58,990 We have seen blood. We have seen blood. 178 00:10:59,210 --> 00:11:03,270 She came up and she was purring and she sat right on my belly. 179 00:11:03,610 --> 00:11:08,570 I went to kind of like adjust and that's when she just went right for my arm. 180 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:13,550 Holy God, that was one. Both sides of my arm. 181 00:11:14,830 --> 00:11:19,130 Really disturbing news today. I mean, I walk in, the first thing that I hear is 182 00:11:19,130 --> 00:11:22,450 that Sarah's been attacked within the last week. I mean, the scars all over 183 00:11:22,450 --> 00:11:23,450 arms are ridiculous. 184 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:25,810 How did you feel when you found out? 185 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,220 Angry to see Farrah get beat up time after time. 186 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,020 This completely bums me out. Gets me thinking that maybe Lucy doesn't belong 187 00:11:35,020 --> 00:11:35,999 the film. 188 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,280 What wasn't happening at that point? 189 00:11:38,620 --> 00:11:44,980 She wouldn't react to any of the toys. And two, we didn't have supervised time 190 00:11:44,980 --> 00:11:46,220 for two days. 191 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:50,340 The thing that really concerns me is that if you spend two days not taking 192 00:11:50,340 --> 00:11:54,800 gunpowder out of the bomb, the bomb builds up again and goes off to that 193 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:59,380 We just can't have that. If they're not playing with her and they're not letting 194 00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:03,120 Lucy out to share the space with Kylie, then they're creating the cat bomb 195 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,320 that's ready to explode. 196 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:09,120 I know that you guys filmed some homework for me on video, so let's take 197 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:11,880 We have Kylie over here. 198 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:18,900 We have Lucy sneaking up on Kylie, so I'm going to do this and just block her 199 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:20,760 off. Go find something else to do. 200 00:12:21,580 --> 00:12:24,980 That's the idea of these supervised get -togethers between the two cats. 201 00:12:25,310 --> 00:12:28,650 And I thought it was great that Sarah thought to use a sight blocker to get 202 00:12:28,650 --> 00:12:34,110 between Kylie and Lucy. It keeps Sarah's body out of the way. Lucy just attacked 203 00:12:34,110 --> 00:12:34,889 me again. 204 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:35,930 It's really disheartening. 205 00:12:36,370 --> 00:12:38,570 I'm just starting to worry that it's not going to work. 206 00:12:38,830 --> 00:12:41,970 The worst thing I've seen in video homework in quite a long time was the 207 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:46,050 aftermath of that attack, and I needed some good news. It was time to get up 208 00:12:46,050 --> 00:12:47,610 definitely take a look around this house. 209 00:12:48,430 --> 00:12:49,510 Okay, let's take a look. 210 00:12:49,930 --> 00:12:50,930 Bang! 211 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:53,270 It's a nursery. 212 00:12:53,610 --> 00:12:55,090 Guys, that's amazing. 213 00:12:56,130 --> 00:13:01,690 Lucy is roaming in that room and seeing all the changes. She seems to enjoy 214 00:13:01,690 --> 00:13:02,850 being in the nursery. 215 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:05,270 It feels like you're expecting a baby. 216 00:13:05,550 --> 00:13:09,330 This wasn't just about building up a nursery for John and for Sarah. It was 217 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:13,130 for Lucy. This is desensitizing, positive association. 218 00:13:13,450 --> 00:13:17,030 So a cat like Lucy is not going to feel threatened around a newborn and attack. 219 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:19,810 So let's keep moving. Okay. 220 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:24,180 Hi, Kylie. 221 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,620 She's a back rub type of girl. 222 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Yeah, she loves it. With Kylie this comfortable, what better time to bring 223 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,700 in to have the supervised playtime? We might as well. 224 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:38,080 Suddenly she zoomed in onto Kylie. 225 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:44,400 Lucy is locked. 226 00:13:45,020 --> 00:13:48,500 She's getting ready here. What am I going to do? Distract her with this. 227 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,680 The reason why I wanted to distract Lucy with a toy is because I wanted to make 228 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:56,120 it more interesting than attacking Kylie. 229 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,960 It's really tough with her. 230 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Oh, no. No, no. 231 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,200 Uh -huh. 232 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,540 This is the place where you would have your sight blocker, right? 233 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,740 I put it down. Look at that. Immediately. 234 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:15,700 Immediately she's off. 235 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,100 That's the goal, okay? 236 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,660 Lucy just went after Kylie, and I don't want her to redirect that energy onto 237 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:24,740 John and Sarah, so I've got to find something that calms her. 238 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:28,340 Hello, honey. 239 00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:30,260 Hi. 240 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,380 The one thing that you never want to do with a prey animal like a cat is stare 241 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:42,260 them in the eyes. What I wanted to do was soften my gaze. I call it a slow 242 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:44,420 blink. It's just a way to communicate with cats. 243 00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:48,790 Hi. 244 00:14:49,870 --> 00:14:50,890 Hi, baby. 245 00:14:55,490 --> 00:14:56,490 Hi. 246 00:14:58,630 --> 00:14:59,630 Hi. 247 00:15:00,010 --> 00:15:03,130 You see how the blink made that happen? 248 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:07,850 When Jackson blinked his eyes at Lucy, she sort of like flopped over and mewed 249 00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:12,930 at him. His blinking just really seduced her. I mean, look. Hi. 250 00:15:13,819 --> 00:15:17,840 You give her that look and she just kind of goes belly up. I have never actually 251 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,840 seen her do that. 252 00:15:18,860 --> 00:15:22,460 I looked over at Sarah and John. We all thought at the same time, this is the 253 00:15:22,460 --> 00:15:26,200 cat we love. This is the cat we want to save. Come on, guys. I want to sit down 254 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,440 for a bit and give you guys homework for today, okay? Okay. 255 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,120 First of all, let's start talking about the nursery. I think it's really 256 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,500 important for both her and Kylie to be able to watch this thing in motion. I'd 257 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:41,600 like you to put up a shelf or two around the crib itself. Safe distance away, 258 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:42,660 but above it a little bit. 259 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,500 I do want both cats to be able to get up above the crib. They can see what's 260 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:49,860 going on. They're not deprived from the baby, and that means they'll be less 261 00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:51,100 prone to attack the new baby. 262 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:58,100 I want Kylie to have more home. That seat is her home. More, more, more. 263 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:01,480 little stairway up and down on that big piece of sliding glass window. What I 264 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,820 want is for Sarah and John to start catering to Kylie's needs. Then she'll 265 00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:08,960 safe, not cornered, and her confidence will skyrocket. 266 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,080 And the final thing is... 267 00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,710 You guys got fascinated by the eye blink, but here's what I'm going to do. 268 00:16:15,290 --> 00:16:19,810 I'm going to video myself doing it, and I'm going to give it to you guys, and 269 00:16:19,810 --> 00:16:23,950 I'd like you to play it on that big screen TV while you're doing the 270 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:27,270 visit. John and Sarah have both been attacked by Lucy in the past, and I just 271 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:30,830 don't want to have their faces anywhere near her right now. And until there are 272 00:16:30,830 --> 00:16:32,370 no more attacks, we'll just use the video. 273 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,260 All right, guys. Have a great night. 274 00:16:34,540 --> 00:16:38,820 I am scared because I don't want to get rid of my cat, and I don't want to bring 275 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:43,320 my baby into a home where he or she might get hurt. I need to feel self 276 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,860 that my child's going to be safe. 277 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,200 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 278 00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:54,840 Who invented the cat door? Was it A, Sir Isaac Newton, B, Thomas Edison, or C, 279 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:56,680 Alexander Graham Bell? 280 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,500 The answer is A. 281 00:17:01,130 --> 00:17:05,589 Sir Isaac Newton, who discovered the principles of gravity, also invented the 282 00:17:05,589 --> 00:17:06,589 cat door. 283 00:17:09,950 --> 00:17:13,510 I'm here for my final visit with John and Sarah and their cats, Lucy and 284 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:16,550 Now, we've still got a baby on the way, and the clock is ticking. 285 00:17:16,849 --> 00:17:21,569 When I first met Lucy, she was attacking Sarah all the time. There was also some 286 00:17:21,569 --> 00:17:23,869 cat -on -cat aggression that I wasn't thrilled about. 287 00:17:24,250 --> 00:17:25,250 Jackson's blinking. 288 00:17:25,430 --> 00:17:28,030 On their video homework, I got to see the iBlink TV. 289 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,660 Oh, she's watching the eyes. 290 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,340 Very intrigue. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I just wanted to see if 291 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:44,320 would respond to it. And sure enough, Lucy walked up to it, and she began to 292 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,480 really experience it in a positive way. Her body was relaxed. She's just still. 293 00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:52,200 I'm hoping we're just that much closer to having peace in the house. 294 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Jackson, welcome back. 295 00:17:55,220 --> 00:17:58,100 The stakes were so high in this home, and I'm just hoping that Lucy's less 296 00:17:58,100 --> 00:18:00,720 aggressive and not posing such a big threat to the baby. 297 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,080 So, guys. 298 00:18:02,590 --> 00:18:05,130 First day I met you, you were getting attacked on a regular basis. 299 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:07,110 Okay, okay. 300 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:11,590 So, let's do an arm check. Please show me what's going on. 301 00:18:11,910 --> 00:18:13,390 Do we have any new ones? 302 00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:16,530 No. 303 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:18,150 Yeah. 304 00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:19,980 Give me some. 305 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Since Jackson's been here, I don't feel like I'm tiptoeing around her as much. I 306 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,100 don't feel like, oh, this is going to end in an attack. I have a way to work 307 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:34,620 with her now that will just take that energy and just dispel it right away. 308 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:35,559 What else? 309 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,760 The supervised visit's going real well. 310 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Kylie falls asleep, even. With Lucy out here? 311 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Yeah. Wow. 312 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,380 Last time I was here, I had to throw my body in between these two. 313 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,840 in order for mayhem to not break out. Yeah. 314 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,220 So really, really positive news. 315 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:55,300 So guys, the first thing I noticed when I walked in here was the shelving. So 316 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,420 let's get up and take a look at that. The last time I was here, I asked them 317 00:18:58,420 --> 00:18:59,600 build more shelves for Kylie. 318 00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:05,620 So that rocks right there. So Kylie will go one, two, three. 319 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,100 I've seen her do that, yes. 320 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Great. 321 00:19:08,670 --> 00:19:12,790 The thing with Kylie was to get that confidence up. We took this cat, we got 322 00:19:12,790 --> 00:19:16,210 off the ground, and once we did, she didn't present herself on the level of 323 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:18,710 target that Lucy needed in order to be activated. 324 00:19:19,030 --> 00:19:23,230 So now, Lucy's activated by the things that we want her to be activated by. 325 00:19:25,670 --> 00:19:29,550 So our next stop was the nursery. The first day that I was here, that space 326 00:19:29,550 --> 00:19:32,650 like a second garage. There wasn't anything in there that even resembled a 327 00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:35,410 nursery. First of all, this is a complete nursery. 328 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:37,620 You've got it. I believe so. 329 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,260 These shelves are a great step in the right direction, and I just love the 330 00:19:42,260 --> 00:19:43,540 that everything's in place here. 331 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Settling into this baby's arrival also means the cats can settle into this 332 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,539 baby's arrival. 333 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:52,080 These guys knocked my socks off. They really did. 334 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:53,299 Fantastic work. 335 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:56,380 Exciting. Exciting in here, right? Let's keep moving. I know there's other stuff 336 00:19:56,380 --> 00:19:57,980 we want to see before I leave today, so come on. 337 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,680 I sent John into the next room where Kylie was, and I had Lucy come on over 338 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,020 hang out at that point. 339 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:08,770 I had John bring Kylie into the room and sit down. 340 00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:10,770 Now watch. She's looking over there. 341 00:20:11,090 --> 00:20:16,050 See how I got her attention? She's doing the blink. She's calmed down. Now we 342 00:20:16,050 --> 00:20:17,070 could see what was going to happen. 343 00:20:21,210 --> 00:20:22,210 There's Kylie. 344 00:20:24,370 --> 00:20:25,710 Go, girl! Yeah! 345 00:20:26,170 --> 00:20:29,890 See, this is the kind of thing I could not get the last time I was here. Right 346 00:20:29,890 --> 00:20:34,870 now, I know that I can keep getting her attention away from Kylie. It's so cool. 347 00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:39,030 Lucy's no longer that cat bomb ready to go off because they're learning how to 348 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:42,930 get rid of that energy in the correct way, which means she's no longer going 349 00:20:42,930 --> 00:20:43,990 after them or Kylie. 350 00:20:44,290 --> 00:20:47,350 That is a cat that has changed dramatically. 351 00:20:47,850 --> 00:20:48,890 One last question. 352 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:50,990 We got a baby coming soon. 353 00:20:51,530 --> 00:20:53,830 How are you feeling now about having baby and cat together? 354 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,880 I really feel confident that we've got this now. I see results, and I'm eager 355 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,000 see what it looks like six more weeks from now. Yeah, totally. 356 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,760 There was a point where I was definitely ready to kind of give up and rehome 357 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Lucy, but now I have the knowledge that I need in order to make the situation 358 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,600 work. So that's a pretty big deal. I couldn't be more thankful because 359 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,700 kept our family together. 360 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Have a nice, easy birth. 361 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Thank you. 362 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:26,550 I'm completely confident walking away from here today knowing that there's a 363 00:21:26,550 --> 00:21:30,950 baby coming into this world safe from attacks from a cat. I couldn't be 364 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:34,330 when a child grows up with animals because they're the next generation of 365 00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:37,290 lovers. And with this family, I know that's the case. 366 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:51,510 Hey, hey. 367 00:21:51,870 --> 00:21:52,870 No, no, no. 368 00:22:01,889 --> 00:22:04,030 I'm heading over to see Perry and Jonathan. 369 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:07,590 They've got a cat named Chubbs, a three -year -old Maine Coon who is incredibly 370 00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:11,130 violent towards their newer cat, Cole, who happens to be flying. 371 00:22:12,510 --> 00:22:16,490 Now, this cat, Cole, can't even see Chubbs coming. I've got to go over there 372 00:22:16,490 --> 00:22:18,890 right now and make sure that Cole has a fighting chance. 373 00:22:20,790 --> 00:22:22,230 I'm Carrie. I'm Jonathan. 374 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,360 And we've been together for... Two and a half years. Two and a half years. 375 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 And we own Chubbs and Cole. 376 00:22:30,340 --> 00:22:31,960 Chubbs is a Maine Coon. 377 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,760 I've had him ever since he was a kitten. Cole, we've had him for about a year 378 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,359 and a half. 379 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:40,800 We brought Chubbs home, as well as Cole, from a kennel at a vet clinic. 380 00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:45,880 Chubbs was born too young, never had a mother, grew up with a terrible immune 381 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:51,760 system. Cole had a respiratory infection so bad that his eyes were bulging out 382 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,639 of his head. 383 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,660 Now he's blind. 384 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,340 We saved both of them, and now we've brought them into their own little war 385 00:22:58,340 --> 00:22:59,460 zone. It's okay. 386 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,800 It's okay. 387 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,980 No, no, no. Hey. 388 00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:08,420 Chubbs has issues with aggression. 389 00:23:12,010 --> 00:23:17,130 I'm a certified veterinary technician, and my goal in life is to go into 390 00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:22,670 behaviorist work with cats, and if I can't get these two to get along, then I 391 00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:24,350 can never achieve those goals. 392 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:27,870 The cats are a hindrance to a lot of our daily activities. 393 00:23:28,090 --> 00:23:29,450 They fight all the time. 394 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:32,890 Six, seven, fight every single day. 395 00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:34,870 We're losing sleep over them. 396 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:39,550 We didn't save them to get them in a situation of where they were just going 397 00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:41,390 be living terrible lives. 398 00:23:45,030 --> 00:23:48,410 It's just wearing us out, and we want our sanity back. 399 00:23:53,470 --> 00:23:54,670 Hey, man. I'm Jonathan. 400 00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:55,549 I'm Carrie. 401 00:23:55,550 --> 00:23:59,250 We are big fans of Jackson, and I look to him as a mentor. 402 00:24:00,070 --> 00:24:04,130 Well, glad to be here. I hear things are getting pretty hairy around here, 403 00:24:04,170 --> 00:24:05,169 right? A little bit. 404 00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:06,330 Yeah, well, tell me a little bit about it. 405 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,880 Chubbs, he was pretty aggressive when Cole came into the picture about a year 406 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,619 and a half ago. 407 00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:14,740 When they started interacting, that's when they started fighting. 408 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,400 Chubbs would start immediately getting aggressive towards him. It's literally a 409 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,700 fight every single day. 410 00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:26,620 We had one severe fight. Cole and Chubbs were in the bathroom, and we came home, 411 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:29,140 and there was blood everywhere. 412 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,860 And Chubbs nailed... 413 00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:36,450 actually had popped off. 414 00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:41,330 Carrie and Jonathan were telling me right away that basically Chubbs is 415 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:46,190 relentless about trying to get to Cole. The victim is a blind cat, and that 416 00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:50,790 makes me feel awful. I really, really want to help Cole out. So there's 417 00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:54,890 fights. Right. I got to say, this ain't a lot of taste. Right. 418 00:24:55,390 --> 00:24:59,190 We're sitting in a very small environment. This studio is teeny. 419 00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:03,390 It felt claustrophobic, and I know that the cats just don't deal well with that, 420 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:06,470 especially when there's one stalking the other in the first place. 421 00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:10,950 Jonathan and I had really considered having to rehome one of these cats. 422 00:25:11,230 --> 00:25:13,970 This is, what, a year and a half now? Yeah. They're still fighting. 423 00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:20,970 I constantly feel like I'm agitated, I'm upset. I saved both of these cats, and 424 00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:21,970 now they're just fighting. 425 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:29,200 And that upsets me to my core because my goal in life is being a behaviorist 426 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,900 and, you know. So you actually want to become a behaviorist? Yeah, yeah. 427 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:37,660 Oh, cool. Yeah. I really love the fact that Carrie wants to be a cat 428 00:25:37,660 --> 00:25:43,260 behaviorist. I'm here to just help these cats but also to bring her up into this 429 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:46,260 occupation. So what I'd like to do is actually just. 430 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Every nook and cranny in here. Let's take it apart. 431 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:51,920 Okay. And then we can figure out what makes the cats tick, right? Okay. All 432 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,420 right, so let's start over there. Okay. 433 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,160 So, where's Cole right now? He's underneath that shelf. 434 00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:01,380 Hello, Cole. 435 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,200 Cole hangs out down here normally? 436 00:26:04,660 --> 00:26:08,960 Yeah, he sleeps down there a lot. I smell pee down here. Yeah, he's actually 437 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880 done it in his little spot. That's what I'm smelling. 438 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,640 If he's peeing where he sleeps... 439 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,420 You don't get any more of a red flag, right? Yeah. 440 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:22,780 He's marking it and saying, this is my only safe place. Not a good thing. I 441 00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:25,980 really wanted to see things under the scope of my black light. 442 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:29,980 This, to me, was what smelled really bad before. 443 00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:32,640 Why don't you guys come down here and join me, man? This is your stuff. 444 00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:35,740 Come here, start smelling around. You tell me. 445 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,520 Where do you... I mean, I can smell it. 446 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:41,980 It's under the record. 447 00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:44,370 Under the records? 448 00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:47,290 These didn't used to be here. 449 00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:49,850 And it would show on the blanket, right? 450 00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:51,290 It should. If it would. 451 00:26:51,670 --> 00:26:53,070 It should, but let's give it a whiff. 452 00:26:55,470 --> 00:26:58,830 I'm telling you guys, it smells like pee down here. So he's hitting something. 453 00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:01,290 And this is where I get to do the fun stuff. 454 00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:05,670 Oh, that's it? 455 00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:07,570 Yeah, it's all wet down here. 456 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:12,890 So this is actually pretty fresh down here. So we'll have to clean that up. 457 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,720 It had all pooled down on the floor, on the cement, plus the carpet right in 458 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:23,180 front of there. It's sad that Cole can only mark with urine to make himself 459 00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:25,360 safe, and we've got to do something about it. 460 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:32,260 Having his perimeters defined and realizing that in this small space, he 461 00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:36,840 out even a smaller space and said, this is the only area I feel safe in, then... 462 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:39,260 That gives us all the ammunition we're going to need. 463 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:43,660 These guys don't have anything around him that plays into challenging a cat 464 00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:48,540 can't see. No toys that are sensory. Nothing to lead him from one place to 465 00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:52,360 other. And I find that suspicious when we're dealing with Carrie, who wants to 466 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,120 be a behaviorist, and she's not dealing with this cat's behavior. 467 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,080 And there's our boy. 468 00:27:57,740 --> 00:27:59,020 Hello, Mr. Man. 469 00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:00,460 Oh, hello. 470 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,980 Now, here's the thing. 471 00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:05,420 I need to see the two cats together. 472 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:12,080 So if you can get Cole from his den and bring him on over here, and let's put 473 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,799 him on the bed. 474 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,160 I wanted Carrie to bring Cole over to where Chubbs was on the bed. That said, 475 00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:21,240 there's no way I'm going to let this fight escalate because we're dealing 476 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,880 blind cat who's basically helpless. 477 00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,540 Okay. Hi, Cole. 478 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:33,410 I feel anxious because we've had, you know, Bad fights, and 479 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:35,630 blood can be drawn from this. 480 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:42,850 This is the first look I've been able to have at his eye, too. 481 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:56,750 Oh, 482 00:28:57,450 --> 00:28:58,450 okay. 483 00:29:00,310 --> 00:29:01,330 Up, up, up, up, up. 484 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Come here. 485 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,240 Hey. 486 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Okay. All right, well, at least I had the good sense to run away. 487 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,380 We've got two cats who don't speak the same language. 488 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:20,780 One can't see, and Chubb's a bottle baby, who at three days old was brought 489 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:24,220 by a human. That means he's going to have holes in his language when it comes 490 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:27,440 dealing with other cats. They're just learning how to have dialogue, and it's 491 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,440 not going too well. 492 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,380 All right, guys, so... 493 00:29:30,730 --> 00:29:33,930 I don't think they know how to communicate or play with each other 494 00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:38,430 So I want to start going over what I saw today. You know what? Give me a second, 495 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:39,570 okay? I'll be right back. Okay. 496 00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:46,510 It is time to go to school. 497 00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:48,730 Homework begins with you, Carrie. 498 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:52,490 You want to be a cat behaviorist, so basically you've got to know what 499 00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:57,550 to every cat. The only thing that's important to a cat is, do I own this 500 00:29:57,810 --> 00:30:02,770 We see Chubbs, who walks around the world like, I own this. Now, we have 501 00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:05,610 on the other hand. His behavior is saying, I don't own anything. 502 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:08,730 Carrie was telling me that she really wanted to be a behaviorist. So for 503 00:30:08,730 --> 00:30:12,450 Carrie's homework, I want Carrie to put on her cat glasses and start acting like 504 00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:13,449 a cat detective. 505 00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:17,590 She's got to write down all her observations and put it on their Cat 506 00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:21,430 homework board. I think we're seeing a lot of play aggression here. So give 507 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:25,870 toys that cater to them, meaning that Chubbs gets the kind of toy he can chase 508 00:30:25,870 --> 00:30:30,110 around. Cole, we've got to be much more imaginative about catering to the senses 509 00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:33,910 that are heightened that he already has. They have got to find sensory toys, 510 00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:38,710 things that turn him on in a smell sense, in a hearing sense, and really 511 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:43,010 getting him around the house, owning the world by hunting things, so he becomes 512 00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:44,010 a confident cat. 513 00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:48,290 The next thing we've got to do in here is declutter a little bit. I want to 514 00:30:48,290 --> 00:30:52,030 sure that we have areas for these guys to say, oh, yeah, I can get out of your 515 00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:55,490 way. Cole's an easy target for Chubbs in this cluttered apartment. 516 00:30:55,910 --> 00:31:00,330 Because Cole can't see Chubbs coming and because Chubbs has a lot of places to 517 00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:03,470 hide here, if you've got any questions in the next couple weeks, just give me a 518 00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:05,270 shout, okay? Okay. Sounds good. All right, guys. 519 00:31:05,910 --> 00:31:10,590 Jackson is in a field of work that I definitely want to be in, and it really 520 00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:14,570 does add the pressure because I want to be walking in his footsteps one day. 521 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:15,810 Goodbye, my lovely boy. 522 00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:18,890 And you guys, take care. You too. I'll talk to you soon. 523 00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:20,170 I can't. 524 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:25,710 Strive in any of my other goals if I can't even get my own cat to get along 525 00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:32,630 I'm here for my second visit with Carrie Jonathan 526 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:36,670 and their two cats Chubbs and Cole the first time I was here We had cat on cat 527 00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:40,170 aggression. We had a really confined space and that really didn't help the 528 00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:41,170 two problems at all 529 00:31:42,140 --> 00:31:46,040 And to compound that, Carrie is a veterinary technician who wants to be an 530 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,740 animal behaviorist. She can't be a behaviorist if she can't sort out the 531 00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:50,940 with her own cats. 532 00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:55,080 Hey. Hi. How are you? Nice to see you again. Nice to see you. I'm just hoping 533 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,940 they open the space and put my homework to use. You guys nail the work around 534 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:03,820 here. This is twice the space that you had before. I feel like I can breathe. 535 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Like you can breathe. That's exactly what I was going to say. Now, if we feel 536 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,080 that way, these guys, they've got territory. 537 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,240 They can claim that territory. 538 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,840 Now, while it's true that cats can feel around with their whiskers, blind cats 539 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,000 are still at a disadvantage because they can't see something coming, especially 540 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,620 if that's something attacks from behind. 541 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320 The aggression has gone way down. That's fantastic. How many fights were we 542 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,320 having before? 543 00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:30,380 Six, seven, a day. Right? Where are we at now? 544 00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:31,980 One or two. 545 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,800 That's pretty amazing. 546 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:40,300 I really took the homework of being a behaviorist to heart because this is 547 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:41,300 I want to do. 548 00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:44,350 Last time I was here, Carrie was telling me that she really wanted to be a 549 00:32:44,350 --> 00:32:48,090 behaviorist. And I said, go for it. What I need you to do is observe, report, 550 00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:51,490 and put it on their Cat Mojo 101 homework board. 551 00:32:51,710 --> 00:32:54,170 I noticed it's actually the complete opposite now. 552 00:32:54,970 --> 00:32:59,870 Cole will actually go after Chubbs if he hears him walking around the room. 553 00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:03,770 Interesting. Confidence level through the roof. Yeah, probably because we play 554 00:33:03,770 --> 00:33:05,010 with Cole a lot more now. 555 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,550 Yeah. Do we have any sprain going on from Cole? 556 00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:14,990 None. Cole standing up for himself, showing a little bit of confidence in a 557 00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:19,830 territorial way is what we needed here. It's the pendulum swinging. As you raise 558 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:24,210 the confidence level of one cat, he's going to test those limits. And that's 559 00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:27,330 that Cole is doing. Now, I want to go over your video homework with you. 560 00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:33,150 I saw them using a fetter toy with Chubbs that he can now chase and hunt. 561 00:33:33,150 --> 00:33:34,150 okay, Wubby? 562 00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:38,140 I was also really happy to see Cole playing with his fuzzy toy. That meant 563 00:33:38,140 --> 00:33:41,520 Carrie really did her homework and found a toy that catered to the needs of this 564 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,700 blind cat, and that alone really raised his confidence. 565 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,380 Jonathan and Carrie made it a livable area for both cats. They have 566 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:53,460 the house in a big way, but at the same time, the fights are still happening. 567 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,360 It's really important that they finish their work in terms of getting rid of 568 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,560 anything that can be an ambush zone or a corridor. Now... 569 00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:06,830 The sort of aggressive behavior we're still seeing, I was hoping to see a 570 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:07,830 less than that. 571 00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:11,610 Now, what we need to do is get up and look around, okay? 572 00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:17,409 All right, so we got Cole out and about. Where's Chubbs at? 573 00:34:18,730 --> 00:34:19,989 Chubbs is actually under there. 574 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:27,770 So now we've got Chubbs in Cole's old area on this shelf, and we've got 575 00:34:27,770 --> 00:34:28,770 Cole. 576 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:33,080 basically in the exact same position Chubbs was in the last time I was here. 577 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,400 Things had really changed. 578 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,480 They had been playing with Cole, and they had opened up the room for him, 579 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,960 allowing him to move through the space more freely, and now he's claimed it as 580 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,960 his own. Now... 581 00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:45,429 What we need to do is double back with Chubbs. My thought is that if he doesn't 582 00:34:45,429 --> 00:34:48,550 feel all the way comfortable in here anymore because coal's starting to take 583 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:50,850 over, the rest of the world could be his, okay? 584 00:34:51,070 --> 00:34:55,389 Now, they still have a yard right outside, so I think let's put him in a 585 00:34:55,389 --> 00:34:58,650 and let's walk him around the neighborhood a little bit so he gets 586 00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:00,650 -body stimulation that you just can't replace. 587 00:35:00,910 --> 00:35:03,810 I want you to pick him up. We're going to have a spot that we're always going 588 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:06,410 start the walks at, and then I'll reward him once he hits that spot. 589 00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:07,710 Okay. So go ahead and pick him up. 590 00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:11,370 I'm not too confident with getting Chubbs. 591 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,840 Out on a walk, a full -blown walk. He's like, I want to go back. Yep. Go ahead. 592 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,900 Walk with him. Let him go? Okay. It's a very fine line we've got to walk between 593 00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,060 scaring him and challenging him. Come on. 594 00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:24,180 You're all right. 595 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,240 If we could just get Chubbs to quit fixating on going back inside and be 596 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,420 comfortable outside, we'd be on the right track to boosting his confidence. 597 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Come here, please. 598 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,800 Turn your head. 599 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:38,080 All I want you to do, buddy, is turn your head. 600 00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:40,260 There you go. Good boy. 601 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,400 Now you see he is moving in the right direction. You see how his body's 602 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,720 to relax out here? Yeah. He's not constantly going backwards, right? He's 603 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:51,320 starting to find his mojo right now. 604 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:55,660 In the past, we had tried to get Chubbs outside on a harness with little luck. 605 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:59,100 And Jackson helped show us that once we start getting him outside, he'll start 606 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,100 getting more comfortable. 607 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,960 We're ending it on a totally high note. 608 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,820 He's finding his confidence out here. We're done. 609 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:10,100 And Chubbs chose to follow the food instead of following the fear back into 610 00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:14,080 home. You could sense the breakthrough. Now, I'm used to that, but Carrie 611 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,660 wasn't. Now, here's somebody who's studying to do what I do. It's a really 612 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:22,120 special feeling to know that the fascination, the discovery is going to 613 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,118 else now. 614 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,120 All right. 615 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,600 Great work. 616 00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:28,700 You guys have really gotten halfway there. 617 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:30,380 So let me give you guys some homework. 618 00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:35,920 Now, Cole, we can't ask him to go too high. It's a little dangerous for him. 619 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,420 with Chubbs, we're going to build. 620 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,860 Up with just a few shelves around connecting spot to spot. Cole is going 621 00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:42,839 dominate the floor. 622 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Let's have Chubbs start to be able to walk up at the same time. Let's get him 623 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,200 walking around the neighborhood a little bit, exploring and saying, you know, I 624 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,260 can get away from Cole. I can get away from his territory a little bit and 625 00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:55,420 establish myself outside. 626 00:36:55,820 --> 00:36:58,080 I got something else for you. Hold on one sec. Okay. 627 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,940 Okay. So this is kind of exciting. 628 00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:05,980 Obviously, we want Chubbs to go outside, we want him to go on walks, but I also 629 00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:09,380 thought it would be really cool if we could have sort of a, you know, a place 630 00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:10,820 for him that's more like a tunnel. 631 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,400 By putting the tunnel in the yard, they're giving Chubbs an additional 632 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:15,500 It's all his. 633 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,360 He'll own it. And ownership is something that really increases a cat's 634 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,500 confidence. Plus, it's enclosed, so it's safe. 635 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:26,890 And the other thing is, Carrie, because you are looking to become a behaviorist, 636 00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:30,470 I want you to continue this detective work. Okay. Even though these guys put 637 00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:33,850 their cat detective glasses, they still need to open up the space even more, and 638 00:37:33,850 --> 00:37:37,590 I want them to move the couch to prevent fights. Through the work that you're 639 00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:40,990 doing here, you're going to find all the answers you need, and make sure you 640 00:37:40,990 --> 00:37:45,150 follow those answers. That's the one thing that we've got to do, okay? Okay. 641 00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:47,990 I am going to take off. Okay. No problem. 642 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:52,290 This case is also unique because Carrie wants to become a behaviorist like me. 643 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:55,910 And if she begins to doubt herself during this process, that could mean an 644 00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:59,530 to her career. So I'm feeling extra pressure here, and I'm hoping that these 645 00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:02,570 guys do their homework so I can finish what I came here to do. 646 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,060 I'm here for my final visit with Carrie and Jonathan, Chubbs and Cole. Now, the 647 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:19,660 last time I was here, we saw Cole's confidence just skyrocketing. But at the 648 00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:24,040 same time, Chubbs' confidence was taking a nosedive. The pendulum was swinging. 649 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,240 Now, this time around, I want to see it centered. 650 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,800 Two cats getting along. 651 00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:28,638 Hey, man. 652 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,640 And I'll be happy. 653 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,840 Hi, Jackson. 654 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,040 Nice to see you. 655 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,340 Holy cow. 656 00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:35,220 Look at this. 657 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,140 Walking into Carrie and Jonathan's place, first of all, this space speaks 658 00:38:39,220 --> 00:38:43,480 It's finally decluttered. It's wide open. It's wonderful. The two cats, 659 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,140 coexisting peacefully on a bed together. This is one of the biggest and best 660 00:38:48,140 --> 00:38:50,740 transformations that I've ever seen in any of my cases. 661 00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:53,220 Isn't that incredible? 662 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Yeah, definitely. 663 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,580 The fact that Chubbs and Cole are on the bed next to each other, sleeping and 664 00:38:59,580 --> 00:39:01,540 not fighting, is huge. 665 00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:04,080 The fighting has stopped. 666 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:08,280 That. is what we came here for, touchdown, right? 667 00:39:09,020 --> 00:39:14,260 I think the playing is a really big part of that. I've definitely been writing 668 00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:18,600 more notes on the wall, just being really critical in what I'm looking at. 669 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,500 definitely say that I finally have my own pair of cat glasses. I feel so 670 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:28,480 confident now. I've been able to look at the little things that the cats do, and 671 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,920 it's like, let's... take a step back. When were they fed? When were they 672 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,240 with? What's going on? So I feel like I've really embraced it. So cool. 673 00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:40,360 I want to get up and move around here a little bit. All right. Let's go. 674 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:46,200 It's so intense to believe that this is the same space. 675 00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:50,340 You have created this wonderful open plan. 676 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,940 First day, this was Chubbs' place. 677 00:39:54,460 --> 00:39:58,040 Second day I'm here, Cole is like, I think I'll own this. And Chubbs is like, 678 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,080 oh, what about me? 679 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,300 Today, we come back here, and there's peace in the valley. 680 00:40:02,860 --> 00:40:08,840 Fantastic. I was really hesitant to think that they were both going to be 681 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,160 to, you know, live in the same vicinity and be okay with one another and respect 682 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,320 one another. And, I mean, it's gone beyond that. 683 00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:19,080 Now that's what I want to hear. 684 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:20,820 Look at him now. Look at that. 685 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,820 Look at where he's sitting right now. From unconfident and miserable to 686 00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:27,580 confident and happy. 687 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,000 Cole is completely blind, but there's something about a cat who overcomes any 688 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:38,380 perceived handicap, an animal who everybody had given up on, who was going 689 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:42,560 euthanized. And one person said, no, no, no, I know there's potential in him. 690 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,780 This is the proof, and it's so beautiful to see him. I'm telling you, I'm all 691 00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:48,900 goosebumps out right now. 692 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,580 Oh, my God, that's so cool. 693 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,660 No, that's really beautiful. 694 00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:00,320 Wow. And I don't even live with him, David. 695 00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:05,240 For you guys, it's just got to feel like you've done right by this cat, you 696 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:09,900 know? Carrie and Jonathan told me pretty fast all the problems were done. No 697 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:14,540 more aggression. No more insecurity from either cat. The pendulum has evened 698 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:18,460 out. We have a balance between these two cats, and that was really the important 699 00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:21,960 thing. All right, so let's take a look at what you guys did in the last couple 700 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,960 weeks. 701 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,860 Looking at Carrie and Jonathan's video homework, the happiness is just 702 00:41:26,860 --> 00:41:31,080 today. First of all, moving that couch to another end of the place, opening up 703 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,560 the whole middle, that was great. 704 00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:38,920 I also got to see Chubbs getting up on the shelves that Jonathan had built for 705 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,920 him. Good boy! 706 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,400 Well, you're not monkeying around. 707 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,240 Now Chubbs can watch Colt move around the world from a totally safe distance, 708 00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:52,300 and that way we have a dialogue between these cats, not a bully and a victim. I 709 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:56,460 also got to see Chubbs in the tunnel and on a leash still outside exploring the 710 00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:58,400 world. Great stuff. 711 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,940 When you just take the homework by the horns, this is what you get. The last 712 00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:07,320 thing I want to do is observe Chubbs in his tunnel toy that I brought over last 713 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,100 time because they said he really enjoyed it. 714 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,440 Here comes Chubbs into the tunnel. 715 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,800 But wait. 716 00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:16,870 Cole is following Chubbs into the tunnel, and I wonder, is he going to 717 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:18,930 around and attack him like he's done in the past? 718 00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:24,850 Oh, 719 00:42:24,850 --> 00:42:33,310 my 720 00:42:33,310 --> 00:42:35,110 God. Oh, man. 721 00:42:35,570 --> 00:42:38,210 He smells Chubbs, and he says this is safe. 722 00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:42,110 That, to me, is the biggest success that we've had. 723 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,439 All together. 724 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,140 Seeing Cole and Chubbs in that tunnel together did my heart good. The 725 00:42:48,140 --> 00:42:52,520 transformation has been too big for words. When you have an aspiring cat 726 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,020 behaviorist like Carrie, she now has the tools that she needs to move forward. I 727 00:42:57,020 --> 00:43:01,300 can't thank you enough for all the information that you have given us. 728 00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:03,100 I'm sorry. 729 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,920 You've made me that much more confident. 730 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,960 about what I want to do, about being a behaviorist. 731 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:22,460 And you're going to set me off to my future, to being what I want to be. 732 00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:24,360 And I can't thank you enough. 733 00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:29,720 Carrie, I feel secure about her. I know that she's picked the right path. 734 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,200 Little does she know that she's motivated me to keep going on as well. 735 00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:38,680 You have the foundation, not just knowledge -wise now. 736 00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:44,540 But you've got two teachers who all you ever have to do is look at them. And 737 00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:48,100 remember, if you save one, you're going to save hundreds more. 738 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,860 So keep your glasses on. You know what I mean? I'll definitely keep them on. 739 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,700 Okay, good, good, good. Before Jackson came by, Jonathan and I had really 740 00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,160 considered having to rehome one of these cats. 741 00:44:00,580 --> 00:44:06,580 And now that Jackson has come by, we can just live as a happy family now. 742 00:44:06,820 --> 00:44:08,540 All right, bye, guys. Bye, Jackson. Bye. 65017

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