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Lucy has a mean streak, and my biggest fear is that Lucy will hurt the baby.
Hey, girl.
If it came down to a choice between my family and a cat, my
child comes first.
Chubbs is very aggressive, very dominating, and Cole's blind.
It's literally a fight every single day.
just wearing us out, and we want our sanity back. My goal in life is to go
behaviorist work with cats, and if I can't get these two to get along, then I
can never achieve those goals.
I'm Jackson Galaxy. I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day.
I've met cats with all kinds of problems.
but I've never met one I couldn't help.
Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one,
analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians.
When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to
leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of
her. I'm their last hope.
Are you all right?
I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one.
Hey,
girl.
So what do you get when you cross an incredibly aggressive cat who's biting
scratching, drawing blood on a daily basis, and a six -month pregnant woman?
get a powder keg of a situation, and that's what I'm dealing with right now.
I'm heading over to make sure that powder keg just doesn't go off.
I'm John.
I'm Sarah.
And we're dating.
With a baby on the way.
We have two cats that don't get along very well.
Lucy is my cat.
I call her Lucifer sometimes.
I've had her for three years.
My cat's Kylie, and I've had her for about 10 years. We've been dating, Sarah
and I, for about 15 months, and we were longtime friends before that. The only
stress in our relationship is Lucy.
Lucy has a mean streak. Lucy likes to sneak up on Kylie.
She never had that problem before we moved in here a year ago.
You'll be petting her, and she'll be purring, and all of a sudden, she'll
unleash and attack you.
Oh, my God.
She'll wrap herself around you. She'll bite down and pierce your skin.
Lucy is locked onto my arm, and I can't get her off, and I want to cry.
If you try to shove her off, she'll come back even harder.
Ow! Ow, ow, ow.
And they usually leave a mark.
Even with the sweatshirt on, she dug right through. I don't know what to do
this cat.
She sent me to the hospital with a cat bite that got infected and immobilized
entire arm.
We want to bring our baby into the world knowing that our home is safe.
If it came down to a choice between my family and a cat, my child comes first.
Just thinking about giving her up breaks my heart.
I mean, she's my first baby.
One of our cats is going to have to go, and I'm afraid it's going to be Lucy.
That's the most honest answer I think I've heard.
I'm going in right now for my first visit with John and Sarah.
They got a hard deadline here. We got three months and we're going to have a
baby. Hey, how are you?
Hey, Sarah. Hey, I'm John.
I'm good to meet you guys. I got to be honest with you. This one makes me a
little nervous because Sarah's six months pregnant. They've got an
cat named Lucy. I'm concerned as well as them. So I'm going to go in right now.
See if there's anything I can do about it. Tell me what's going on. We have
Lucy. Our younger cat, she's got a lot of energy.
She's really rambunctious. She likes to scratch and bite.
Wait, hold on. This is rambunctious? Yeah.
Most of the time when I see cats biting and biting hard, it's because they could
have been taught by humans that hands are toys.
So they go after the hands with teeth.
Kylie is our other cat. We keep Lucy in the back of the house all day, and Kylie
has the front. They don't get along.
Lucy will creep up on Kylie, wait until she has let her guard down, and then
sneak attack her.
About six months ago, she actually sent me to the hospital with a cat bite.
She grabbed on with her back claws here, so she was like this, you know, biting
and immediately got infected within three days.
Huge swollen, couldn't use my hand for anything.
It's pretty bad.
When the cat sends you to the hospital, that's when my meter goes to red, and I
know we've got to step in and make something happen right now.
If I had a bite of that magnitude, I don't know what I would do. I can't take
antibiotics being pregnant.
I hadn't even thought of that.
I wouldn't hesitate to find a new home for Lucy.
It's... It's heartbreaking to think about giving up my pet that I adore.
I could tell that we had a major problem on our hands. They were both panicked,
it seemed to me, and I don't blame them. They're about to have a baby, and we've
got an aggressive cat.
Lucy draws blood on a daily basis.
We've got a lot of things to look at, what I need to look at.
It's the territory.
So let's get cracking. Let's move on. I had to see who owned what. What part of
the house does Lucy own? What part of the house does Kylie own? But I do want
make sure I'm not putting a pregnant woman in danger.
Kylie has the habit of cornering herself over here.
There's Kylie.
Baby doll.
Hi, my love.
When I see a cat like Kylie scrunched behind a TV, it's the epitome of lack of
confidence. Do you mind if I get you out of there? Is that okay?
You're a lot of cat.
She's inviting attack. If you act like prey, you're going to be treated like
prey. And that's what Kylie was doing. So we have to really up her confidence
level. So, obviously something that we're going to have to look at.
Let's keep going.
What do we got? This is our soon -to -be nursery.
Obviously it's a little cluttered, a little crowded right now.
How soon are we looking at getting this done?
Basically within six to eight weeks.
Guess what?
Probably a little sooner, huh? A lot sooner.
It's not just going to be about the architecture in here. It's the smells,
sights, the sounds. We're going to work all that stuff in here before the baby's
born, way before the baby's born. They have to get used to the environment.
Basically, cats are really big creatures of habit, and I've got to start getting
them used to this space so when the new baby comes, Lucy won't feel threatened
and attack John, Sarah, or the baby.
Okay, so we got Lucy in here.
Hi, Lucy.
John, I'm going to ask you to come in here and just show me what it is that
would normally do. I want to see John handling her. I got to think there's
way that he pets her that sets her up.
I'm not trying to get you sent back to the hospital. Believe me.
What I'm trying to do is approach that line with her, what I call the challenge
line. Hey, girl.
Oh, okay, okay.
Ow. Sorry, sorry, sorry. That stings.
I can't believe this. I turn my head for one second, and boom. Sarah puts her
hand the one place I didn't want it, on Lucy, and Lucy attacks her. The last
thing I wanted to happen for Lucy to attack Sarah, who's pregnant.
Sarah immediately jumped out and ran out of the room. Her wounds were kind of
nasty looking, considering they happened so fast, but there were no bites. The
vast majority of cat bites get infected, so I was just really relieved not to
see a puncture mark.
I don't like the fact when I look at this. I mean, it's okay for me. It's not
okay for you. When Lucy finally went after Sarah the way she did, just
onto her arm, she did it with the natural ferocity of the hunter that she
realize that our deadline is not when this baby is born.
Our deadline is now. We're dealing with a cat that's predictable, and that is a
huge plus.
John and Sarah think that this is totally unprovoked. No. What she is is a
bomb. This is the cat who's locked away in the back of the house all the time. A
cat with incredible drive is a hunter, and all of that energy is going to come
out where you don't want it unless you take the responsibility to drain it
That baby is like a prime target.
I mean, no, it's true, right?
Now, the nursery has got to be done, and it's got to be done by the time I get
back here.
You are going to be in charge of the play time.
You're going to have two play sessions a day, morning and night.
Playtime is essential for Lucy, who bites.
We've got to get her moving on something that will drain energy off of her in a
natural way. Give her what she needs, but don't present humans as targets.
In the middle of your workday, I want you to start taking breaks and have
supervised visits with them. When I use supervised visits, it's basically a way
of taking extra responsibility with two cats who just don't get along.
If the cats wanted to kill each other, they would have done it by now, and it
hasn't happened.
Over the first week, you're going to start seeing a change in her behavior
because she's not going to be looking at Kylie to be a target. And if Kylie's
not a target, she's not going to act like a scared cat.
And that will up her confidence level. Okay. Got it? Yeah. All right, good. It
was really scary seeing Sarah being attacked by Lucy. Lucy is the one that's
aggressor. I would like to just give up Lucy.
I'm going in for my second visit now with John and Sarah, who's very pregnant
this point. Now, I gave them basic homework last time about their cat,
whose violence I saw firsthand.
Hey, girl.
Oh, God.
Jackson! John!
Hi! All I can hope for this time is the attacks are down, because we really
don't have a lot of room to work with.
So let me just ask you one thing so we can get it out of the way, okay?
Have we had blood?
Well... Uh -oh.
We have seen blood. We have seen blood.
She came up and she was purring and she sat right on my belly.
I went to kind of like adjust and that's when she just went right for my arm.
Holy God, that was one. Both sides of my arm.
Really disturbing news today. I mean, I walk in, the first thing that I hear is
that Sarah's been attacked within the last week. I mean, the scars all over
arms are ridiculous.
How did you feel when you found out?
Angry to see Farrah get beat up time after time.
This completely bums me out. Gets me thinking that maybe Lucy doesn't belong
the film.
What wasn't happening at that point?
She wouldn't react to any of the toys. And two, we didn't have supervised time
for two days.
The thing that really concerns me is that if you spend two days not taking
gunpowder out of the bomb, the bomb builds up again and goes off to that
We just can't have that. If they're not playing with her and they're not letting
Lucy out to share the space with Kylie, then they're creating the cat bomb
that's ready to explode.
I know that you guys filmed some homework for me on video, so let's take
We have Kylie over here.
We have Lucy sneaking up on Kylie, so I'm going to do this and just block her
off. Go find something else to do.
That's the idea of these supervised get -togethers between the two cats.
And I thought it was great that Sarah thought to use a sight blocker to get
between Kylie and Lucy. It keeps Sarah's body out of the way. Lucy just attacked
me again.
It's really disheartening.
I'm just starting to worry that it's not going to work.
The worst thing I've seen in video homework in quite a long time was the
aftermath of that attack, and I needed some good news. It was time to get up
definitely take a look around this house.
Okay, let's take a look.
Bang!
It's a nursery.
Guys, that's amazing.
Lucy is roaming in that room and seeing all the changes. She seems to enjoy
being in the nursery.
It feels like you're expecting a baby.
This wasn't just about building up a nursery for John and for Sarah. It was
for Lucy. This is desensitizing, positive association.
So a cat like Lucy is not going to feel threatened around a newborn and attack.
So let's keep moving. Okay.
Hi, Kylie.
She's a back rub type of girl.
Yeah, she loves it. With Kylie this comfortable, what better time to bring
in to have the supervised playtime? We might as well.
Suddenly she zoomed in onto Kylie.
Lucy is locked.
She's getting ready here. What am I going to do? Distract her with this.
The reason why I wanted to distract Lucy with a toy is because I wanted to make
it more interesting than attacking Kylie.
It's really tough with her.
Oh, no. No, no.
Uh -huh.
This is the place where you would have your sight blocker, right?
I put it down. Look at that. Immediately.
Immediately she's off.
That's the goal, okay?
Lucy just went after Kylie, and I don't want her to redirect that energy onto
John and Sarah, so I've got to find something that calms her.
Hello, honey.
Hi.
The one thing that you never want to do with a prey animal like a cat is stare
them in the eyes. What I wanted to do was soften my gaze. I call it a slow
blink. It's just a way to communicate with cats.
Hi.
Hi, baby.
Hi.
Hi.
You see how the blink made that happen?
When Jackson blinked his eyes at Lucy, she sort of like flopped over and mewed
at him. His blinking just really seduced her. I mean, look. Hi.
You give her that look and she just kind of goes belly up. I have never actually
seen her do that.
I looked over at Sarah and John. We all thought at the same time, this is the
cat we love. This is the cat we want to save. Come on, guys. I want to sit down
for a bit and give you guys homework for today, okay? Okay.
First of all, let's start talking about the nursery. I think it's really
important for both her and Kylie to be able to watch this thing in motion. I'd
like you to put up a shelf or two around the crib itself. Safe distance away,
but above it a little bit.
I do want both cats to be able to get up above the crib. They can see what's
going on. They're not deprived from the baby, and that means they'll be less
prone to attack the new baby.
I want Kylie to have more home. That seat is her home. More, more, more.
little stairway up and down on that big piece of sliding glass window. What I
want is for Sarah and John to start catering to Kylie's needs. Then she'll
safe, not cornered, and her confidence will skyrocket.
And the final thing is...
You guys got fascinated by the eye blink, but here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to video myself doing it, and I'm going to give it to you guys, and
I'd like you to play it on that big screen TV while you're doing the
visit. John and Sarah have both been attacked by Lucy in the past, and I just
don't want to have their faces anywhere near her right now. And until there are
no more attacks, we'll just use the video.
All right, guys. Have a great night.
I am scared because I don't want to get rid of my cat, and I don't want to bring
my baby into a home where he or she might get hurt. I need to feel self
that my child's going to be safe.
And now it's time for a kitty bit.
Who invented the cat door? Was it A, Sir Isaac Newton, B, Thomas Edison, or C,
Alexander Graham Bell?
The answer is A.
Sir Isaac Newton, who discovered the principles of gravity, also invented the
cat door.
I'm here for my final visit with John and Sarah and their cats, Lucy and
Now, we've still got a baby on the way, and the clock is ticking.
When I first met Lucy, she was attacking Sarah all the time. There was also some
cat -on -cat aggression that I wasn't thrilled about.
Jackson's blinking.
On their video homework, I got to see the iBlink TV.
Oh, she's watching the eyes.
Very intrigue. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I just wanted to see if
would respond to it. And sure enough, Lucy walked up to it, and she began to
really experience it in a positive way. Her body was relaxed. She's just still.
I'm hoping we're just that much closer to having peace in the house.
Jackson, welcome back.
The stakes were so high in this home, and I'm just hoping that Lucy's less
aggressive and not posing such a big threat to the baby.
So, guys.
First day I met you, you were getting attacked on a regular basis.
Okay, okay.
So, let's do an arm check. Please show me what's going on.
Do we have any new ones?
No.
Yeah.
Give me some.
Since Jackson's been here, I don't feel like I'm tiptoeing around her as much. I
don't feel like, oh, this is going to end in an attack. I have a way to work
with her now that will just take that energy and just dispel it right away.
What else?
The supervised visit's going real well.
Kylie falls asleep, even. With Lucy out here?
Yeah. Wow.
Last time I was here, I had to throw my body in between these two.
in order for mayhem to not break out. Yeah.
So really, really positive news.
So guys, the first thing I noticed when I walked in here was the shelving. So
let's get up and take a look at that. The last time I was here, I asked them
build more shelves for Kylie.
So that rocks right there. So Kylie will go one, two, three.
I've seen her do that, yes.
Great.
The thing with Kylie was to get that confidence up. We took this cat, we got
off the ground, and once we did, she didn't present herself on the level of
target that Lucy needed in order to be activated.
So now, Lucy's activated by the things that we want her to be activated by.
So our next stop was the nursery. The first day that I was here, that space
like a second garage. There wasn't anything in there that even resembled a
nursery. First of all, this is a complete nursery.
You've got it. I believe so.
These shelves are a great step in the right direction, and I just love the
that everything's in place here.
Settling into this baby's arrival also means the cats can settle into this
baby's arrival.
These guys knocked my socks off. They really did.
Fantastic work.
Exciting. Exciting in here, right? Let's keep moving. I know there's other stuff
we want to see before I leave today, so come on.
I sent John into the next room where Kylie was, and I had Lucy come on over
hang out at that point.
I had John bring Kylie into the room and sit down.
Now watch. She's looking over there.
See how I got her attention? She's doing the blink. She's calmed down. Now we
could see what was going to happen.
There's Kylie.
Go, girl! Yeah!
See, this is the kind of thing I could not get the last time I was here. Right
now, I know that I can keep getting her attention away from Kylie. It's so cool.
Lucy's no longer that cat bomb ready to go off because they're learning how to
get rid of that energy in the correct way, which means she's no longer going
after them or Kylie.
That is a cat that has changed dramatically.
One last question.
We got a baby coming soon.
How are you feeling now about having baby and cat together?
I really feel confident that we've got this now. I see results, and I'm eager
see what it looks like six more weeks from now. Yeah, totally.
There was a point where I was definitely ready to kind of give up and rehome
Lucy, but now I have the knowledge that I need in order to make the situation
work. So that's a pretty big deal. I couldn't be more thankful because
kept our family together.
Have a nice, easy birth.
Thank you.
I'm completely confident walking away from here today knowing that there's a
baby coming into this world safe from attacks from a cat. I couldn't be
when a child grows up with animals because they're the next generation of
lovers. And with this family, I know that's the case.
Hey, hey.
No, no, no.
I'm heading over to see Perry and Jonathan.
They've got a cat named Chubbs, a three -year -old Maine Coon who is incredibly
violent towards their newer cat, Cole, who happens to be flying.
Now, this cat, Cole, can't even see Chubbs coming. I've got to go over there
right now and make sure that Cole has a fighting chance.
I'm Carrie. I'm Jonathan.
And we've been together for... Two and a half years. Two and a half years.
And we own Chubbs and Cole.
Chubbs is a Maine Coon.
I've had him ever since he was a kitten. Cole, we've had him for about a year
and a half.
We brought Chubbs home, as well as Cole, from a kennel at a vet clinic.
Chubbs was born too young, never had a mother, grew up with a terrible immune
system. Cole had a respiratory infection so bad that his eyes were bulging out
of his head.
Now he's blind.
We saved both of them, and now we've brought them into their own little war
zone. It's okay.
It's okay.
No, no, no. Hey.
Chubbs has issues with aggression.
I'm a certified veterinary technician, and my goal in life is to go into
behaviorist work with cats, and if I can't get these two to get along, then I
can never achieve those goals.
The cats are a hindrance to a lot of our daily activities.
They fight all the time.
Six, seven, fight every single day.
We're losing sleep over them.
We didn't save them to get them in a situation of where they were just going
be living terrible lives.
It's just wearing us out, and we want our sanity back.
Hey, man. I'm Jonathan.
I'm Carrie.
We are big fans of Jackson, and I look to him as a mentor.
Well, glad to be here. I hear things are getting pretty hairy around here,
right? A little bit.
Yeah, well, tell me a little bit about it.
Chubbs, he was pretty aggressive when Cole came into the picture about a year
and a half ago.
When they started interacting, that's when they started fighting.
Chubbs would start immediately getting aggressive towards him. It's literally a
fight every single day.
We had one severe fight. Cole and Chubbs were in the bathroom, and we came home,
and there was blood everywhere.
And Chubbs nailed...
actually had popped off.
Carrie and Jonathan were telling me right away that basically Chubbs is
relentless about trying to get to Cole. The victim is a blind cat, and that
makes me feel awful. I really, really want to help Cole out. So there's
fights. Right. I got to say, this ain't a lot of taste. Right.
We're sitting in a very small environment. This studio is teeny.
It felt claustrophobic, and I know that the cats just don't deal well with that,
especially when there's one stalking the other in the first place.
Jonathan and I had really considered having to rehome one of these cats.
This is, what, a year and a half now? Yeah. They're still fighting.
I constantly feel like I'm agitated, I'm upset. I saved both of these cats, and
now they're just fighting.
And that upsets me to my core because my goal in life is being a behaviorist
and, you know. So you actually want to become a behaviorist? Yeah, yeah.
Oh, cool. Yeah. I really love the fact that Carrie wants to be a cat
behaviorist. I'm here to just help these cats but also to bring her up into this
occupation. So what I'd like to do is actually just.
Every nook and cranny in here. Let's take it apart.
Okay. And then we can figure out what makes the cats tick, right? Okay. All
right, so let's start over there. Okay.
So, where's Cole right now? He's underneath that shelf.
Hello, Cole.
Cole hangs out down here normally?
Yeah, he sleeps down there a lot. I smell pee down here. Yeah, he's actually
done it in his little spot. That's what I'm smelling.
If he's peeing where he sleeps...
You don't get any more of a red flag, right? Yeah.
He's marking it and saying, this is my only safe place. Not a good thing. I
really wanted to see things under the scope of my black light.
This, to me, was what smelled really bad before.
Why don't you guys come down here and join me, man? This is your stuff.
Come here, start smelling around. You tell me.
Where do you... I mean, I can smell it.
It's under the record.
Under the records?
These didn't used to be here.
And it would show on the blanket, right?
It should. If it would.
It should, but let's give it a whiff.
I'm telling you guys, it smells like pee down here. So he's hitting something.
And this is where I get to do the fun stuff.
Oh, that's it?
Yeah, it's all wet down here.
So this is actually pretty fresh down here. So we'll have to clean that up.
It had all pooled down on the floor, on the cement, plus the carpet right in
front of there. It's sad that Cole can only mark with urine to make himself
safe, and we've got to do something about it.
Having his perimeters defined and realizing that in this small space, he
out even a smaller space and said, this is the only area I feel safe in, then...
That gives us all the ammunition we're going to need.
These guys don't have anything around him that plays into challenging a cat
can't see. No toys that are sensory. Nothing to lead him from one place to
other. And I find that suspicious when we're dealing with Carrie, who wants to
be a behaviorist, and she's not dealing with this cat's behavior.
And there's our boy.
Hello, Mr. Man.
Oh, hello.
Now, here's the thing.
I need to see the two cats together.
So if you can get Cole from his den and bring him on over here, and let's put
him on the bed.
I wanted Carrie to bring Cole over to where Chubbs was on the bed. That said,
there's no way I'm going to let this fight escalate because we're dealing
blind cat who's basically helpless.
Okay. Hi, Cole.
I feel anxious because we've had, you know, Bad fights, and
blood can be drawn from this.
This is the first look I've been able to have at his eye, too.
Oh,
okay.
Up, up, up, up, up.
Come here.
Hey.
Okay. All right, well, at least I had the good sense to run away.
We've got two cats who don't speak the same language.
One can't see, and Chubb's a bottle baby, who at three days old was brought
by a human. That means he's going to have holes in his language when it comes
dealing with other cats. They're just learning how to have dialogue, and it's
not going too well.
All right, guys, so...
I don't think they know how to communicate or play with each other
So I want to start going over what I saw today. You know what? Give me a second,
okay? I'll be right back. Okay.
It is time to go to school.
Homework begins with you, Carrie.
You want to be a cat behaviorist, so basically you've got to know what
to every cat. The only thing that's important to a cat is, do I own this
We see Chubbs, who walks around the world like, I own this. Now, we have
on the other hand. His behavior is saying, I don't own anything.
Carrie was telling me that she really wanted to be a behaviorist. So for
Carrie's homework, I want Carrie to put on her cat glasses and start acting like
a cat detective.
She's got to write down all her observations and put it on their Cat
homework board. I think we're seeing a lot of play aggression here. So give
toys that cater to them, meaning that Chubbs gets the kind of toy he can chase
around. Cole, we've got to be much more imaginative about catering to the senses
that are heightened that he already has. They have got to find sensory toys,
things that turn him on in a smell sense, in a hearing sense, and really
getting him around the house, owning the world by hunting things, so he becomes
a confident cat.
The next thing we've got to do in here is declutter a little bit. I want to
sure that we have areas for these guys to say, oh, yeah, I can get out of your
way. Cole's an easy target for Chubbs in this cluttered apartment.
Because Cole can't see Chubbs coming and because Chubbs has a lot of places to
hide here, if you've got any questions in the next couple weeks, just give me a
shout, okay? Okay. Sounds good. All right, guys.
Jackson is in a field of work that I definitely want to be in, and it really
does add the pressure because I want to be walking in his footsteps one day.
Goodbye, my lovely boy.
And you guys, take care. You too. I'll talk to you soon.
I can't.
Strive in any of my other goals if I can't even get my own cat to get along
I'm here for my second visit with Carrie Jonathan
and their two cats Chubbs and Cole the first time I was here We had cat on cat
aggression. We had a really confined space and that really didn't help the
two problems at all
And to compound that, Carrie is a veterinary technician who wants to be an
animal behaviorist. She can't be a behaviorist if she can't sort out the
with her own cats.
Hey. Hi. How are you? Nice to see you again. Nice to see you. I'm just hoping
they open the space and put my homework to use. You guys nail the work around
here. This is twice the space that you had before. I feel like I can breathe.
Like you can breathe. That's exactly what I was going to say. Now, if we feel
that way, these guys, they've got territory.
They can claim that territory.
Now, while it's true that cats can feel around with their whiskers, blind cats
are still at a disadvantage because they can't see something coming, especially
if that's something attacks from behind.
The aggression has gone way down. That's fantastic. How many fights were we
having before?
Six, seven, a day. Right? Where are we at now?
One or two.
That's pretty amazing.
I really took the homework of being a behaviorist to heart because this is
I want to do.
Last time I was here, Carrie was telling me that she really wanted to be a
behaviorist. And I said, go for it. What I need you to do is observe, report,
and put it on their Cat Mojo 101 homework board.
I noticed it's actually the complete opposite now.
Cole will actually go after Chubbs if he hears him walking around the room.
Interesting. Confidence level through the roof. Yeah, probably because we play
with Cole a lot more now.
Yeah. Do we have any sprain going on from Cole?
None. Cole standing up for himself, showing a little bit of confidence in a
territorial way is what we needed here. It's the pendulum swinging. As you raise
the confidence level of one cat, he's going to test those limits. And that's
that Cole is doing. Now, I want to go over your video homework with you.
I saw them using a fetter toy with Chubbs that he can now chase and hunt.
okay, Wubby?
I was also really happy to see Cole playing with his fuzzy toy. That meant
Carrie really did her homework and found a toy that catered to the needs of this
blind cat, and that alone really raised his confidence.
Jonathan and Carrie made it a livable area for both cats. They have
the house in a big way, but at the same time, the fights are still happening.
It's really important that they finish their work in terms of getting rid of
anything that can be an ambush zone or a corridor. Now...
The sort of aggressive behavior we're still seeing, I was hoping to see a
less than that.
Now, what we need to do is get up and look around, okay?
All right, so we got Cole out and about. Where's Chubbs at?
Chubbs is actually under there.
So now we've got Chubbs in Cole's old area on this shelf, and we've got
Cole.
basically in the exact same position Chubbs was in the last time I was here.
Things had really changed.
They had been playing with Cole, and they had opened up the room for him,
allowing him to move through the space more freely, and now he's claimed it as
his own. Now...
What we need to do is double back with Chubbs. My thought is that if he doesn't
feel all the way comfortable in here anymore because coal's starting to take
over, the rest of the world could be his, okay?
Now, they still have a yard right outside, so I think let's put him in a
and let's walk him around the neighborhood a little bit so he gets
-body stimulation that you just can't replace.
I want you to pick him up. We're going to have a spot that we're always going
start the walks at, and then I'll reward him once he hits that spot.
Okay. So go ahead and pick him up.
I'm not too confident with getting Chubbs.
Out on a walk, a full -blown walk. He's like, I want to go back. Yep. Go ahead.
Walk with him. Let him go? Okay. It's a very fine line we've got to walk between
scaring him and challenging him. Come on.
You're all right.
If we could just get Chubbs to quit fixating on going back inside and be
comfortable outside, we'd be on the right track to boosting his confidence.
Come here, please.
Turn your head.
All I want you to do, buddy, is turn your head.
There you go. Good boy.
Now you see he is moving in the right direction. You see how his body's
to relax out here? Yeah. He's not constantly going backwards, right? He's
starting to find his mojo right now.
In the past, we had tried to get Chubbs outside on a harness with little luck.
And Jackson helped show us that once we start getting him outside, he'll start
getting more comfortable.
We're ending it on a totally high note.
He's finding his confidence out here. We're done.
And Chubbs chose to follow the food instead of following the fear back into
home. You could sense the breakthrough. Now, I'm used to that, but Carrie
wasn't. Now, here's somebody who's studying to do what I do. It's a really
special feeling to know that the fascination, the discovery is going to
else now.
All right.
Great work.
You guys have really gotten halfway there.
So let me give you guys some homework.
Now, Cole, we can't ask him to go too high. It's a little dangerous for him.
with Chubbs, we're going to build.
Up with just a few shelves around connecting spot to spot. Cole is going
dominate the floor.
Let's have Chubbs start to be able to walk up at the same time. Let's get him
walking around the neighborhood a little bit, exploring and saying, you know, I
can get away from Cole. I can get away from his territory a little bit and
establish myself outside.
I got something else for you. Hold on one sec. Okay.
Okay. So this is kind of exciting.
Obviously, we want Chubbs to go outside, we want him to go on walks, but I also
thought it would be really cool if we could have sort of a, you know, a place
for him that's more like a tunnel.
By putting the tunnel in the yard, they're giving Chubbs an additional
It's all his.
He'll own it. And ownership is something that really increases a cat's
confidence. Plus, it's enclosed, so it's safe.
And the other thing is, Carrie, because you are looking to become a behaviorist,
I want you to continue this detective work. Okay. Even though these guys put
their cat detective glasses, they still need to open up the space even more, and
I want them to move the couch to prevent fights. Through the work that you're
doing here, you're going to find all the answers you need, and make sure you
follow those answers. That's the one thing that we've got to do, okay? Okay.
I am going to take off. Okay. No problem.
This case is also unique because Carrie wants to become a behaviorist like me.
And if she begins to doubt herself during this process, that could mean an
to her career. So I'm feeling extra pressure here, and I'm hoping that these
guys do their homework so I can finish what I came here to do.
I'm here for my final visit with Carrie and Jonathan, Chubbs and Cole. Now, the
last time I was here, we saw Cole's confidence just skyrocketing. But at the
same time, Chubbs' confidence was taking a nosedive. The pendulum was swinging.
Now, this time around, I want to see it centered.
Two cats getting along.
Hey, man.
And I'll be happy.
Hi, Jackson.
Nice to see you.
Holy cow.
Look at this.
Walking into Carrie and Jonathan's place, first of all, this space speaks
It's finally decluttered. It's wide open. It's wonderful. The two cats,
coexisting peacefully on a bed together. This is one of the biggest and best
transformations that I've ever seen in any of my cases.
Isn't that incredible?
Yeah, definitely.
The fact that Chubbs and Cole are on the bed next to each other, sleeping and
not fighting, is huge.
The fighting has stopped.
That. is what we came here for, touchdown, right?
I think the playing is a really big part of that. I've definitely been writing
more notes on the wall, just being really critical in what I'm looking at.
definitely say that I finally have my own pair of cat glasses. I feel so
confident now. I've been able to look at the little things that the cats do, and
it's like, let's... take a step back. When were they fed? When were they
with? What's going on? So I feel like I've really embraced it. So cool.
I want to get up and move around here a little bit. All right. Let's go.
It's so intense to believe that this is the same space.
You have created this wonderful open plan.
First day, this was Chubbs' place.
Second day I'm here, Cole is like, I think I'll own this. And Chubbs is like,
oh, what about me?
Today, we come back here, and there's peace in the valley.
Fantastic. I was really hesitant to think that they were both going to be
to, you know, live in the same vicinity and be okay with one another and respect
one another. And, I mean, it's gone beyond that.
Now that's what I want to hear.
Look at him now. Look at that.
Look at where he's sitting right now. From unconfident and miserable to
confident and happy.
Cole is completely blind, but there's something about a cat who overcomes any
perceived handicap, an animal who everybody had given up on, who was going
euthanized. And one person said, no, no, no, I know there's potential in him.
This is the proof, and it's so beautiful to see him. I'm telling you, I'm all
goosebumps out right now.
Oh, my God, that's so cool.
No, that's really beautiful.
Wow. And I don't even live with him, David.
For you guys, it's just got to feel like you've done right by this cat, you
know? Carrie and Jonathan told me pretty fast all the problems were done. No
more aggression. No more insecurity from either cat. The pendulum has evened
out. We have a balance between these two cats, and that was really the important
thing. All right, so let's take a look at what you guys did in the last couple
weeks.
Looking at Carrie and Jonathan's video homework, the happiness is just
today. First of all, moving that couch to another end of the place, opening up
the whole middle, that was great.
I also got to see Chubbs getting up on the shelves that Jonathan had built for
him. Good boy!
Well, you're not monkeying around.
Now Chubbs can watch Colt move around the world from a totally safe distance,
and that way we have a dialogue between these cats, not a bully and a victim. I
also got to see Chubbs in the tunnel and on a leash still outside exploring the
world. Great stuff.
When you just take the homework by the horns, this is what you get. The last
thing I want to do is observe Chubbs in his tunnel toy that I brought over last
time because they said he really enjoyed it.
Here comes Chubbs into the tunnel.
But wait.
Cole is following Chubbs into the tunnel, and I wonder, is he going to
around and attack him like he's done in the past?
Oh,
my
God. Oh, man.
He smells Chubbs, and he says this is safe.
That, to me, is the biggest success that we've had.
All together.
Seeing Cole and Chubbs in that tunnel together did my heart good. The
transformation has been too big for words. When you have an aspiring cat
behaviorist like Carrie, she now has the tools that she needs to move forward. I
can't thank you enough for all the information that you have given us.
I'm sorry.
You've made me that much more confident.
about what I want to do, about being a behaviorist.
And you're going to set me off to my future, to being what I want to be.
And I can't thank you enough.
Carrie, I feel secure about her. I know that she's picked the right path.
Little does she know that she's motivated me to keep going on as well.
You have the foundation, not just knowledge -wise now.
But you've got two teachers who all you ever have to do is look at them. And
remember, if you save one, you're going to save hundreds more.
So keep your glasses on. You know what I mean? I'll definitely keep them on.
Okay, good, good, good. Before Jackson came by, Jonathan and I had really
considered having to rehome one of these cats.
And now that Jackson has come by, we can just live as a happy family now.
All right, bye, guys. Bye, Jackson. Bye.
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