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Pip suffers from a condition called
cerebellar hyperplasia, overextension of
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front paws, but he is a fighter.
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I'm terrified of Pip.
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The fights are loud. They wake me up
every night.
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If nothing gets better, I have to move
out. I certainly will never get rid of
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Pip.
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Autumn is a cat peeing machine.
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She peed on this.
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I think the smell of cat urine is like
the most toxic substance on the planet.
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Oh. She pees on everything she can get
her paws on.
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Autumn has done a ton of damage, and
it's been expensive.
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This is a computer monitor, and you can
still even see the pee stains on it. The
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cat has created a lot of stress in the
family.
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And you know what you did. The only
option would be to make her a full -time
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outdoor cat.
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Sometimes you can hear coyotes howling
up in the hills.
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I don't want to lose my chick.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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but I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello.
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In my career, I've worked with thousands
of cats one -on -one, analyzing their
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behaviors and retraining them and their
guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but
humans only have one.
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No!
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I'm here in San Francisco, and I'm going
over to see Louise and her roommate
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Tara. I've got a cat named Pip, and Pip
is a special needs cat, but that doesn't
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mean that Pip's not a bully, too.
Bullying your other cat, Red. I'm going
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over there right now, try to stop that
behavior.
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My name is Tara.
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Hi, I'm Louise.
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And we're roommates.
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And I have a beautiful, black, short
-haired cat with one eye named Pip.
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I have another cat named Red, and Pip
hates them.
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When Pip is aggressive, he is scary to
be around.
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I love Red.
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He's welcome in my room anytime, but I'm
terrified of Pip.
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Pip suffers from a condition called
cerebellar hyperplasia, overextension of
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front paws, and the back legs splay out.
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So he has a lot of difficulty walking.
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But he is a fighter.
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The fights are loud.
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They wake me up every night.
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The fight is a problem with my roommate.
It has been a problem with previous
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roommates.
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I need to keep a roommate here to keep a
roof over my head. If nothing gets
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better, then I have to move out. I
certainly will never get rid of this.
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And that's enough.
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I finished.
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Hi! Hi!
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How are you? Finally!
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Oh, my God. As I walked into Louise and
Tara's place, there was that immediate
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vibe of relief.
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This is going to be the end of the
problem, which I felt good getting, but
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the same time, pressure from the second
I walked in.
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Amazing to be here. I wish I was coming
here to just hang, but we got issues.
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Luis has a cat named Pip.
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Okay. And he has a lot of challenges.
He's not your average cat. Pip was born
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into my hand. I took his mom off the
streets, and she was very, very sick.
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So he had a little brain damage because
she was sick. So he ended up with this
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condition, cerebellar hyperplasia.
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Cerebellar hyperplasia, also known as
CH, is a problem in the cerebellum,
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is the part of the brain that controls
movement and coordination.
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There's no cure. There's no medication
for cerebellar hyperplasia. It is what
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is. They've got to kind of live with it.
A one -eyed CH cat. That's interesting.
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Well, I have this other cat named Red.
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Somebody was getting rid of him, so I
took him on with the intention of
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rehoming him.
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And here we are a couple of years later,
and I still have him. And Pip hates
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him.
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He'll fly at Red. He positions himself
so that he can pounce on him.
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And Red's terrified of him.
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Seeing how Pip is with Red kind of
scares me to go near Pip. I couldn't
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that a special needs cat to this degree,
missing an eye and also having CH,
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could even get to Red, let alone cause
damage. But yet, Tara is terrified of
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said special needs cat. I really love
Red.
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But, I mean, if push came to shove, I
could never let go of Pip.
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I bottle fed him, and he slipped.
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Close to me. I mean, we're just bonded.
What can I? I don't know how else to put
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it. Well, you know, bottle moms and
bottle babies.
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Like this. The bond between a bottle
baby and the mother is stronger than
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any other I've seen between animal and
human. They are your surrogate children.
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You are their surrogate mother. Do you
feel like Red feels home?
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No.
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I cannot keep him in. The slightest
chance you will.
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Climb out of a skylight.
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No.
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No. No. Red.
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Then he's out. Then, before you know it,
every few weeks, there's a puncture.
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They abscess. And you know how nasty
that is.
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Yeah. I mean, it's $300 here, $400
there.
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We did a parable.
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Red is causing a little bit of
disruption in the neighborhood. He's out
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getting into fights, and somehow he
can't be kept in the house. Cats really
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need to be indoors these days. It's not
fair to let them wander around where
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predators can pick them off, where
people can do things to them. We want
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live long, healthy lives.
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Our issue is my roommate has just about
had it with me and them, and I
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don't want her to move out.
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Are you close?
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Um, yeah.
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I'm woken up.
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Every night, sometimes multiple times
during the night. Because of the fight?
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Because of the fight. Tara's not getting
any sleep.
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She says she's woken up two, three times
a night. Let's get up. Let's start
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walking around. Tara's one foot out the
door right now.
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Sure, there's high feline stakes, but
there's high human stakes here as well.
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got a lot of problems to work through
here.
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Hi.
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Hi, buddy.
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Oh, my gosh, you're adorable.
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Mommy's little baby.
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You're adorable, even when you hit.
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Hey, Mark.
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What I just saw in terms of your
physicality with Pip is right back to
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baby. Oh, yeah.
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It's a little troublesome in this
context because what we have to be
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for is the victim here.
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And in this case, he's not the victim.
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I'm completely conflicted.
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Because everything in you wants to
sympathize with the CH cat. And on this
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I'm saying, well, wait a minute. He's
also making this other cat feel like he
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doesn't have a home.
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He's forcing him away from the only
territory that he knows.
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He's a bully.
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Tara, do you see the hissing a lot?
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Yeah. I just try to avoid them.
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Well. I just walk in from the door and
straight to my room.
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Louise was very protective of that cat.
But at the same time, there is no
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investment from Tara towards Pip. She
doesn't like him. She's scared of him.
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I think the thing that Louise is missing
out on is that it does take a village
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to raise a CH cat.
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So if Tara would take ownership of Pip
just a little bit, then I think we're
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going to start seeing a different
dynamic. But if she doesn't, Louise is
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to be looking for a new roommate.
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I got to see him walking around a little
bit.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And I'll back up a little bit.
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You used to be down here with me, too.
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You just put him down. Let's see where
he goes.
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Okay, so he immediately splays. That's
his thing, right? Yes. Literally. Oh,
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hello, my buddy.
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I'm watching Pip struggle, not just to
walk, but, hell, just to get up.
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And I couldn't stop thinking I'm
surrounded by wood floors. What are we
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about here?
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It astounds me that he can get after
Red.
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The CH cat, the special needs cat,
stalks and attacks Red. I just didn't
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it. Down comes Red.
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I gotta see these cats together.
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Okay.
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Good boy.
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Good boy. It shocked me to think of this
cat being tortured by a cat that can't
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even get her out.
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But then, I saw it.
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Oh, my God.
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Pip is a special needs cat. He's got
cerebellar hyperplasia, which means he
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can't even stand up straight. So it
shocked me that Red was being tortured
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cat who couldn't even get around.
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Oh, he hit out of nowhere.
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Man, I had seen enough today. So I got
the cats to break it up, at least for
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now. What happened there? Red doesn't
recognize Pip as a cat in terms of his
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movement. Red goes, what are you saying?
What are you saying? Are you
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threatening? Do you want food? What is
it that you want? I don't know. I don't
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know. I don't know. Red is trying to
read Pip, and he can't. So let me give
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some homework.
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What I want to start working on is the
shelves so that basically Red can go
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upstairs and down here and then sit up
in the vertical world and watch Pip's
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body language. For Pip, on the floor in
here.
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Let's experiment with different types of
textures.
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Let's have shag. Let's have the yoga mat
type of substance. I asked him to
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really start building up the floor for
Pip because he was slipping around like
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crazy. He was insecure.
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And special needs cats don't know
they're different. We have to let him
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his own four feet, gain self
-confidence, and walk through the world
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Louise, your connection with Pip, it's
almost too strong.
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And we don't want to break the bond. But
we have to modify it. Her hand language
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around Pip is not doing anybody any
favors. Because kind of reassuring him
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his behavior, whether good or bad, is
okay with her. It's not okay.
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And it's time for her to let go just a
little bit. And I think the way to do
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that is to get Tara more invested.
Because really, at the end of the day,
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wants to stay here, she's got to develop
a relationship with Pip, not just Red.
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Tara, I don't want you to move out. So
I've got to get you involved.
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You got to take ownership of Pip a
little bit. I have to admit, I'm a
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intimidated. Pip is just scary.
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Now I'm going back to L .A. Call me when
you need me, all right?
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Thank you so much.
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Tara's got to be invested in Pip for
this to have any chance of working,
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if she isn't, she and Red are going to
be on the streets for good.
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Bye, sister. Have a great night.
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Bye.
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I'm heading in for my second visit with
Louise and Tara and the cats Red and
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Pip.
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So I took a look at Tara and Louise's
video homework. They took that concept
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the cat superhighway and they just
really knocked it out of the park.
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Now at the same time, I asked them to
experiment with different types of
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flooring so that Pip could feel more
secure.
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Can't wait to take a look at that
myself.
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But at the end of the day, I did see a
little clip of Red standing out in the
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rain because he couldn't come in the
door.
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That picture is what we need to get
erased because I can't stand seeing that
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one.
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Hi. Hello, Louise.
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Come on in. Thank you. We've got lots to
tell you. Good, good, good.
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Right? Yeah.
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Can you believe it? Yes, exactly.
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I think that's an amazing first sign
right there. Last time I was here, I
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that you really needed to start
accepting Pip into your... I've gotten a
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better. Have you? Yes, I'm able to feed
him now.
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Whoa, that's amazing. I just don't feel
comfortable yet picking him up. Tara is
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really starting to get over the fear she
had of Pip. I just try to avoid him.
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I just walk in from the door and
straight to my room.
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And that is really important because at
the end of the day, what I really want
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is to keep Tara in this house with
Louise. The next thing we're going to
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up, start looking around this place. And
really, let's start right here, up to
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Redland. Now, the reason why I had to
build all this was partially so that Red
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could look down.
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and watch Pip as if he was watching TV,
because with CH, a cat moves in very
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unpredictable ways. Now that he's within
the same space but separate, he's
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beginning to feel more confident around
him.
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Red, all he knows of Pip in the past is
he doesn't move like a cat, he doesn't
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act like a cat. Is he a cat? I don't
know what he is. And then he's getting
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attacked. Now he can watch him from a
safe distance. And the best part is,
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down on the floor.
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Looking up at Red.
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These guys are taking one another in,
learning the language of the other cat
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a place where threats don't happen. This
is how peace begins, with dialogue.
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These two are able to have that
dialogue, and I loved seeing it. Now
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looked up high, let's look down low.
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Now, he's not getting snagged on any of
this?
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No, this one is looped. So we came up
with the idea of putting little toys in
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there that he plays with. I love...
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This right at this moment. He's not a
special needs cat. He's hunting like any
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other cat hunts I felt very torn about
pulling back from him, but the way he's
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responding just makes it all come
together for me Yeah, and the more he
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this on something like this the less
he's going to do something
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on someone like that, right? This is a
challenge for him. We've seen Red up
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and we've seen Pip down low enjoying
their life, and that's amazing, but at
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same time, there's got to be some things
that indicate that we're only halfway
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through this process, and sure enough,
as we move towards the kitchen, that's
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where the challenges start to emerge.
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Red went to go get some water and Pip
automatically was like, hey, what are
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doing down here? This is my territory.
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Pip went after Red like he normally
would, but this time Red had somewhere
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to go. And Louise had a little mini
terrarium on the dining room table with
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butterfly, which was not here the last
time I was here.
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He didn't even reference Pip, even
though they just had a fight. He was
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like, hey.
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Butterfly. Yeah. And off he goes, right?
I'm telling you, Red was like, oh, this
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is really cool. This is like outside.
After you have a fight like this and the
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cat's calm, that is information I can
work with in a big way.
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So let me give you some homework.
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We're going to start working towards the
collision of the two worlds, but in a
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peaceful way. Start looking at places
about two and a half, three feet off the
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ground, just like that table by the
staircase.
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and start looking about how he can get
around the world low.
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Tara, we want to see you really still
take Pip in.
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Pip's playground gets brought into your
room, ending in one more rug that's in
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your room with the toys in it, because,
again, that is a brilliant idea.
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Tara's relationship with Pip is
improving, but to ensure she doesn't
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need her to completely get over her fear
of Pip and invite him into her space.
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Now, here's the biggest piece of your
homework.
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I want you to construct a bigger
terrarium so that when Red looks at
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like, this doesn't get any better. For a
cat like Red, who's used to being
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outdoors most of the time, cat TV is a
big, big concept. It is bringing the
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outdoors in for him, which represents
all the things that will keep Red at
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So unless you guys have any more
questions, I've got a plane to catch.
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to get back to L .A.
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I just don't. I don't think that all of
this work is going to be worth it
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because I think his behavior is not
going to change.
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Oh, see you, Red. Getting the cats on
the same level, I'm a little bit dubious
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that it's going to be able to happen.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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How much does the average U .S. cat
guardian spend per year on one cat?
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Eight? $201.
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B, $527.
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Or C, $1 ,123. The answer after this
break.
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How much do the average U .S. cat
guardians spend per year on one cat? The
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answer is B, $527.
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That means the average cat guardian will
spend over $7 ,700 on one cat during
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their lifetime.
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Money well spent.
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I'm going in for my final visit to see
Louise and Tara and the cats Pip and
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And last time I was here, Pip, who is a
special needs cat, he's got cerebellar
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hyperplasia, is absolutely terrorizing
Red.
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I think this needs to go back this way a
touch.
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So I took a look at the video homework.
Let me tell you, everything I saw was
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just a miracle.
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I saw Red being Red.
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He's using every level to come from top
to bottom, which means he's meeting Pip
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at his level, and he's doing it with
confidence. But at the end of the day,
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I want to see is Pip and Red meeting on
the floor, no attacks.
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If everything came together, we're going
to have a happy ending.
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Hey! Hello!
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Hi! How are you?
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What's up, Pip?
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That is a nice thing to see.
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Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful.
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How you guys been? We have lots to tell
you. Pip's got lots to tell you. So I
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walk into Louise and Tara's place. Let
me tell you something. I see cats in the
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middle of the room, both Pip and Red.
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It makes me nervous because the last
time I was here, I was still seeing some
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fighting in this house.
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Well, well, well.
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Hello, Mr. Red.
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Walking around the floor.
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Yeah, that's pretty remarkable.
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When you consider that the first time I
came here, you basically couldn't put
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these two cats on the floor together
without mayhem breaking out. Now, none
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that's happening.
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Really remarkable. How much fighting are
we having right now?
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I'm not getting woken up in the middle
of the night to fight.
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I haven't at all. There you go. I
haven't at all. Pip has been going into
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room on his own accord.
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And now, like, just being able to be on
his level, have him feel comfortable
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with me is just incredible.
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I've never bonded with a cat like that
before.
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To see Tara and Pip actually have a
relationship now is enormous to me.
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First day I got here, I was equally
worried that you would be without a cat
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without a human. And at this point?
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I think I'm definitely going to be sane.
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Yeah. I know, right?
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Congratulations.
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I'm so thankful.
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Jackson, I mean, to me, it's opened up a
whole, like, just a new kind of way of
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living here.
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Let's get up. I've got to see stuff.
Let's do this. Come on.
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Now, this terrarium.
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I got to tell you, above and beyond.
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The last time I was here as part of
their homework, I had Louise and Tara
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a bigger terrarium, bringing the outside
inside.
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We have Australian tree frogs.
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Oh, my God.
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And you see them at night when these
little guys come alive and start jumping
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all over the place and eating their
crickets.
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He is riveted.
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Part of why Red is so comfortable at
home is that we've given him every
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to stay.
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And I look down and there's Pip playing
in his playground, feeling secure.
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These guys didn't just do their
homework. They really went to town on
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I had them do. And the result is we have
peace between these two cats. We have a
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confident Red. We have a Pip who's not
acting out.
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That's what you get when you do your
homework.
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Since the last time I was here, you have
added a whole bunch of things.
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Really nice advance in this whole thing.
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This gives the idea to a CH cat that I
can conquer something.
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And it relieves frustration.
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And by relieving that frustration, you
actually relieve the tremors themselves.
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Because you lower down anxiety.
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Both Tara and Louise did things that
people don't normally do.
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It's okay.
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Tara took in Pip when she was terrified
of him, and Louise let go of Pip. She
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said, okay, the world can have more of
him, and I'll take less so that I can
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have Red as well.
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Hello, Maggie.
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This is a job well done.
Congratulations, guys.
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Couldn't have done it without you,
Jackson Galaxy.
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Safe flight back.
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It is such a relief that Tara isn't
halfway out the door as she was some
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ago. I have absolutely no desire to move
out now.
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That's a relief to me, too.
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Here's the microwave that she peed on.
Totally gross.
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Here she is. This is the little pee
bandit. You've been a naughty girl.
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I'm here in San Francisco, and I'm here
to see Debra and Brian.
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Debra and Brian have a cat named Autumn,
and she is peeing everywhere. I mean,
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if it's not nailed down, it's urinated
on. It's upsetting everyone.
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I'm going to see if I can calm the
motions a little.
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Hi, I'm Deb. Hi, I'm Brian.
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And our kids are Brendan, who is 11, and
Aaron, who is 9.
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We own a few cats, Max, and Autumn.
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We got Autumn for Aaron's birthday, and
we thought we were getting a sweet
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little kitten, and instead we got a cat
peeing machine.
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You can totally smell it.
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And she peed inside there.
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She's peed all over the couch, too.
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I think the smell of cat urine is like
the most toxic substance on the planet.
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Nice puddle of cat pee.
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I'd say garbage smells better than cat
pee.
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Oh. Right there, you peed on that.
Autumn has done a ton of damage, and
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been expensive.
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This is a computer monitor, and you can
still even see the pee stains on it. She
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pees on everything she can get her paws
on.
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We had to buy a new microwave and a
toaster oven cover.
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We kind of have a graveyard of peed -on
items.
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One of the possible solutions to
Autumn's problem has been to put her
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and make her a full -time outdoor cat.
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She's my cat.
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Sometimes you can hear coyotes howling
up in the hills.
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That means she might get... Eatin'.
We're at our wit's end. We really don't
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what to do.
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I really want Jackson to take care of
our cat.
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I just don't want our cat to be outside
forever.
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Hi. Hello.
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How are you?
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My name's Erin.
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Hello, Erin. I'm Jackson. My family's in
here.
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Wow, look at this.
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Hey, Jackson. I'm Deb.
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Hey, Deb.
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I'm Brian. Brian. This is you.
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Hey, I'm Brendan. What's up, Brendan?
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I adore working with kids. For me, it's
a constant reminder that we have another
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generation of people who are going to
take care of animals, who are going to
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their guardians, who are going to look
out for them.
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There must be some cat issues going on
here. The cat is Autumn.
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And Autumn we got for Erin a year ago as
her birthday present.
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Peeing started not long after that.
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And then just start hitting things in
the house? Just everything. So she peed,
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like, all over the couch.
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Anything left out.
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anywhere. So the kids come home from
school and they drop their backpack on
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floor over there.
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Bang. Bang.
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These are one of those homes where the
outside meets the inside. From a cat's
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point of view, it's like living in a big
glass box.
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Not only is something outside
threatening Autumn territorially, but if
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Brian make her an outdoor cat, that
seems something could cost her her life
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well. Where are we with Autumn? Where
are you, Brian? You know, the only
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that we really have left would be to
make her a full -time outdoor cat.
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We are in coyote country here. I mean,
the hills are right behind us. The
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coyotes come down, along with, I'm sure,
other predators.
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These guys do not stand a chance. Now,
that means that my job has just gotten a
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lot harder, because if that's what's
going to happen to this cat, I've got to
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move fast.
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Just to be brutally honest, I mean, you
might as well rehome her.
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It could be a better option. Yeah.
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You'd be okay with her having a new
home?
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Well, I really wanted to stay here
because she really likes me.
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You could feel the weight of it all on a
nine -year -old's shoulders, and that's
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just not right.
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If you don't mind, can you take me
around your house? It would help me a
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Absolutely. All right, come on, let's
go.
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So she loves to pee on the papasan
chair.
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The bear blanket was actually left out
on the couch, and she peed on that.
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Oh, God.
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The smell coming off this bear rug made
whatever hair I don't have stand up on
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end. And then...
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Over here is where the microwave and the
toaster oven are.
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So that's where it begins to get a
little... It gets weird, right? Yeah,
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exactly. We got this microwave a month
ago to replace the other microwave,
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we could never get the smell out of.
Right.
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I take a moment to look at Brian's face
and make no mistake, the frustration
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level is up to here. It tells me the
clock is ticking. Okay, good. So we've
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the... Well, hello.
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And that would be autumn. That would be
autumn.
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Hello, my little one.
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Autumn does get a little scared, but she
comes right out. She wants to have her
452
00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:04,990
freedom, but as soon as you give her
space, she comes right to you.
453
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:06,410
She's so soft.
454
00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:08,590
But she does have a lot of energy.
455
00:27:09,050 --> 00:27:12,750
So we head outside, and they said they
wanted to take me around the house.
456
00:27:12,770 --> 00:27:15,810
Where? To the graveyard of peed on
things.
457
00:27:16,210 --> 00:27:18,370
With a name like that, I gotta see it.
458
00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:24,290
So this is the graveyard of peed on
items. Are you kidding me? So basically
459
00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:28,750
these are all things that she's peed on
at various times. Cat urine is built.
460
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:33,000
to break things down. People get really
upset with me because I'm telling them
461
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,920
their carpet is stained beyond
recognition, that even if they clean it,
462
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,700
down into the floorboards, they're going
to have to rip things up. That's one
463
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,260
thing. When you take a look at the
graveyard of Pete on things, I mean,
464
00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:44,139
are electronics.
465
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:47,360
These are ovens. This is a microwave.
466
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,940
These are a lot of things that in terms
of material goods, it's pretty far up
467
00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:53,000
there. It really...
468
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:57,890
shows you very graphically what these
guys have had to put up with. You've got
469
00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:00,270
microwave. You've got a toaster oven.
470
00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:04,090
It's frustrating dealing with it all.
471
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:05,109
It's really expensive.
472
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:06,890
We've had to replace all this stuff.
473
00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:11,790
And the new microwave that we have,
she's peeing on that now too. So that
474
00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:13,570
end up out here in a couple weeks.
475
00:28:13,790 --> 00:28:14,790
This is pretty severe.
476
00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:16,510
Show me what else we got. Okay.
477
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,120
This is one of her zones where if she
gets into this room, she'll go pee on
478
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,480
something. Where does she tend to go the
most? She goes over here on this bed.
479
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:31,460
This is a favorite spot. She's gone over
there in the corner, and actually, it's
480
00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:35,680
still wet down here. So one question
I've always got to ask when we've got a
481
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240
peeing in a multiple cat household is,
are you sure it's just Autumn?
482
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,800
So you see, it starts up this high.
483
00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:47,250
Are you sure it's Autumn doing all of
the spraying?
484
00:28:47,530 --> 00:28:50,530
Well, you know, if that's not Autumn,
that turns everything on its head.
485
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:51,950
Yeah.
486
00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:55,010
Now, cat pee is not like fingerprints.
487
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:58,630
You can't tell who's doing it just by
looking at it. We have to catch them in
488
00:28:58,630 --> 00:29:01,850
the act. So I needed to go visit with
Autumn and Aaron and get some more
489
00:29:01,850 --> 00:29:02,850
information.
490
00:29:03,310 --> 00:29:04,530
Aaron? Yes?
491
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:06,410
Hello. Do you mind if I come in? No.
492
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:08,510
I want to meet Autumn.
493
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:10,070
Hey, she's like rented. I see her.
494
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:12,230
Aw, scared?
495
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:13,710
Good girl.
496
00:29:14,629 --> 00:29:18,670
Autumn seemed to me to be a pretty
normal cat, a little kiddish. Let me ask
497
00:29:18,670 --> 00:29:19,670
a few questions.
498
00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:22,290
You do know this cat better than
anybody, I would assume, right?
499
00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:26,930
Yeah. Have you worried about her not
being with the family?
500
00:29:27,610 --> 00:29:29,930
Yeah, I mean, cats are a family, too.
501
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:31,750
I'm glad you think that.
502
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:33,070
She's a kitten.
503
00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:37,410
She can't, like, protect herself like
Max can.
504
00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:43,290
You play with her with toys?
505
00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:45,850
Yeah, I have some I made myself.
506
00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:48,950
You made toys for her? How rock star is
that of you?
507
00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:50,510
I like the way it moves.
508
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:55,910
Do you know that I have to teach about
99 % of my clients how to play with
509
00:29:55,910 --> 00:30:01,170
cats? And out comes a toy that a nine
-year -old built. I mean, that is
510
00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:02,410
Hi.
511
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:06,730
It was great to hang out with Erin, talk
to her about Autumn. She is really
512
00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:08,350
going to be the linchpin of this whole
thing.
513
00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:10,869
Hey, guys.
514
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:12,290
Let me sit.
515
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,520
First thing, we're all going to have
homework.
516
00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:19,360
Your job, should you choose to accept
it, is to be mistress of toys.
517
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:23,000
And before you go to bed, you're going
to really play with her. I've got to
518
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,060
convince this cat that her world is
safe.
519
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:29,540
And Erin is the one who can really
facilitate that real bravery, that
520
00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:34,260
confidence, coming out in a more
consistent way. And having a play
521
00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:37,240
think, is really going to help a lot.
And the second thing, we've got to
522
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,300
out who's doing the peeing.
523
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,400
because I don't think it's just autumn.
Cats, of course, are suspect to UTIs,
524
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,880
but before I send these cats to the vet
to test for these things, I want to make
525
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,480
sure I know who's doing all the peeing
and if it's behavioral.
526
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,700
Now, this is a webcam.
527
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,320
We're going to put this on all night
long, and we're going to catch whoever
528
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,240
is peeing. We're not going to have to
guess anymore. We're going to know.
529
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,020
Let's move on to what's going on around
your house.
530
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,420
We don't know. We have to know.
531
00:31:08,939 --> 00:31:13,440
because someone's outside in the
backyard making them nervous. Wow.
532
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,580
This camera, this is a motion -activated
camera. We're going to put it out
533
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:22,060
there. And any time someone comes into
your yard, we're going to know who it
534
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:26,860
We've got to get a grip on this problem
quickly, because if Autumn is made into
535
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:30,860
an outdoor cat, she will not make it
through the week. I'll be back in a few
536
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:32,860
weeks. Thank you so much. You're totally
welcome.
537
00:31:33,370 --> 00:31:37,310
We have, like, raccoons and dogs, like,
next door around the neighborhood.
538
00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:41,230
It's really scary for me because she's
smaller than them.
539
00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:55,830
I'm back here for my second visit with
Brian and Debra and their kids and the
540
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:59,110
cat, Autumn, who has been peeing up a
storm since she was a kitten.
541
00:31:59,510 --> 00:32:03,450
Now, the last time I was here, we could
not figure out which of their two cats
542
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:04,450
was peeing everywhere.
543
00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:10,250
Hi, Brian. Welcome back, Jackson. Thank
you so much. How have you been? Good.
544
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:13,930
So, got a lot to tell me?
545
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:14,949
We do.
546
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:16,250
We have a lot to talk about.
547
00:32:16,830 --> 00:32:19,910
The second I looked at their faces, I
knew I was in trouble. Where are the
548
00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:22,490
by the way? Oh, they're at school right
now. They'll be back a little bit later.
549
00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:27,290
Okay. Since you were last here, the
problem has really escalated,
550
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:28,749
Got worse?
551
00:32:28,750 --> 00:32:30,550
It got way, way worse. Wow.
552
00:32:30,890 --> 00:32:36,110
To be honest, it got so bad that we
really started having serious
553
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:41,310
about putting her in a new home.
554
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,320
I feel like I've been punched in the
gut, because honestly, at that point,
555
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,260
family has said, we're not that invested
anymore, and that means trouble for me
556
00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:54,220
and for Autumn. How did the kids react
to that?
557
00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,040
They were sad and upset, you know? They
really want to keep her here.
558
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,660
I really thought that when I left here,
I had a grip.
559
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,800
Whatever I gave this cat...
560
00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:09,410
moved her to do something.
561
00:33:09,730 --> 00:33:13,630
So even if it went in the wrong
direction, we hit something. We just got
562
00:33:13,630 --> 00:33:15,090
of take it apart and find out what that
was.
563
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:18,150
Now, what you guys did get for me is
some footage.
564
00:33:18,410 --> 00:33:20,390
It was time to take a look at their
video homework.
565
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:22,390
Okay, so here we are.
566
00:33:22,690 --> 00:33:28,150
And one of the homework items that
Jackson gave us was to set up this wall
567
00:33:28,570 --> 00:33:33,110
And by this window, there's no doubt in
my mind that the black cat has been
568
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:36,650
coming at night. The black cat has been
coming at night. Sure enough, in the
569
00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:39,430
middle of the night, They got the proof.
Can you believe that?
570
00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:43,190
I did get to see Aaron building a great
new toy.
571
00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:45,650
Turkey feather cat toy.
572
00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:49,790
Aaron playing with Autumn with these new
toys on a regular basis means this
573
00:33:49,790 --> 00:33:51,110
cat's confidence has returned.
574
00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:53,350
That translates into territorial
security.
575
00:33:53,930 --> 00:33:55,010
Oh, look at her.
576
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:59,250
On the negative side, I did get to see
pee everywhere.
577
00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:01,650
I went to pick up these placemats.
578
00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:03,990
And that huge spot there is cat pee.
579
00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:07,670
You know, we've been talking and we
can't continue to live like this.
580
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:09,429
Look at me.
581
00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:10,448
I know.
582
00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:12,070
She was so hot. I was obsessed.
583
00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:17,330
It's terrible stuff that's going on
here. Yeah. And now I get to see it. Now
584
00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:19,050
let's talk about this webcam footage.
585
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:23,570
We set up a webcam in the office that
was pointing to our bed.
586
00:34:27,449 --> 00:34:30,030
And it's all right there on tape. Got it
on tape.
587
00:34:32,580 --> 00:34:36,840
Wow. I cannot wait to see that. So if
you don't mind, can we go back in the
588
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,719
office and watch that? You bet.
Definitely. Now we have to go into the
589
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,540
see proof of whoever it is that's
peeing.
590
00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:48,280
This is the computer where we have the
webcam set up, and about nine hours in,
591
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,400
this is what happens.
592
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:50,500
Here she comes.
593
00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:58,180
I can't even begin to tell you how just
seeing this webcam footage blows my
594
00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:59,580
mind. Oh, she's peeing?
595
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,840
Mm -hmm.
596
00:35:04,810 --> 00:35:05,810
So she does her business.
597
00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:08,410
Now she's going to kind of clean up.
598
00:35:09,010 --> 00:35:10,010
Awfully thorough.
599
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:14,370
It almost looks like she had a little...
She just squirted again. She did. She
600
00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:16,350
was making sure that it's everywhere,
basically.
601
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:21,070
So wait a minute. She squats and she
marks. It's almost like she doesn't know
602
00:35:21,070 --> 00:35:24,650
what to do, but she's so anxious, she
has to do everything at the same time.
603
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:27,370
then, as she's getting ready to leave,
she freezes.
604
00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:31,590
And she's looking at something. And I
know that whatever she's looking at is
605
00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:32,670
going to give me some good information.
606
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,020
So after I watch the video, I really
want to sort of relive it as if I'm
607
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,120
She comes in.
608
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,620
She comes here.
609
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,360
She's facing there.
610
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:45,500
She's looking right at that backyard.
That's the place that's been all this
611
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:50,780
trouble for all this time. She's just
plain anxious and living in a post
612
00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:53,840
-traumatic stress loop that we just have
to break.
613
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Let's go hit the backyard.
614
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,840
Jackson was putting the pieces of the
puzzle together.
615
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,540
He continues to just see things in the
cats that we never see.
616
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:06,840
Okay. I wanted to go outside with Deb
and Brian to see if there was anything
617
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200
else attracting that black cat into
their backyard.
618
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:13,160
Now, we know that other cats wind up
right here, right? Mm -hmm. The thing I
619
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,580
worry about a little bit is the dirt.
Yeah. And it's being used as a litter
620
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:19,960
over here. Right. Does it get used? It
does, yeah.
621
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080
The way this house is designed, it's
like bringing the outdoors indoors.
622
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,200
And if you're a cat with some
territorial and security problems to
623
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,980
boy, that's just hellish.
624
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:31,850
Oh, hey. Hey.
625
00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:33,850
What's up, man?
626
00:36:34,070 --> 00:36:37,850
Now that Erin and Brendan are home, what
I want to see this time is Autumn
627
00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:40,370
playing with that new toy that Erin
built for her.
628
00:36:40,570 --> 00:36:44,570
Watching Erin play with Autumn. She
really does jump with that one. Oh, nice
629
00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:48,670
jump. Just take her homemade toy, take
my toy. Good girl.
630
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:53,530
Get that cat just jumping around. I
mean, this cat was jumping around.
631
00:36:53,950 --> 00:36:54,950
Oh, nice.
632
00:36:55,950 --> 00:36:59,490
And at that moment, I look over at this
little girl's face, and it's very
633
00:36:59,490 --> 00:37:04,050
simple. It's a girl, it's her kitten,
and it's the bond between them. A bond
634
00:37:04,050 --> 00:37:07,850
that we would be so foolish to break up.
And I'm not going to let that happen.
635
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:09,750
Okay.
636
00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:14,310
Now we know what's going on. So that
leads us to our homework.
637
00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:16,550
We're going to talk a little bit about
litter boxes.
638
00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:19,490
Now here's what I want you to do. You're
going to love this part.
639
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:22,170
I want you to have one of the litter
boxes on the counter.
640
00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:25,910
I know, I know.
641
00:37:26,570 --> 00:37:29,270
It's gross to have litter boxes in your
living space.
642
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:34,320
because this counter really kind of
symbolizes something destructive.
643
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,220
Litter boxes have got to be in socially
significant areas for these cats,
644
00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:40,000
because when they're anxious, they pee.
645
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Here's the other thing.
646
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,920
If they're being threatened by something
outside, we've got to take care of that
647
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,499
as well.
648
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:49,540
I would put something down instead of
that soil in the backyard to deny any
649
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,020
would -be invaders a litter box.
650
00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:56,630
There's no point in letting those cats
come on up here and threaten. She might
651
00:37:56,630 --> 00:38:00,390
see someone through the window, get all
worked up, and then pee someplace.
652
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:04,690
Now, in terms of cleaning up the mess, I
use this all the time, and it's really
653
00:38:04,690 --> 00:38:08,890
cool. It's a CO2 -based cleaner, and all
you do is fill this up with warm water,
654
00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:13,310
drop the tablets in here, and it works
really, really well.
655
00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:16,030
And the last thing I want you to do is
build a catio.
656
00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:17,350
Do you know what a catio is?
657
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:23,770
Yeah. A catio will define not just her
sense of territorial ownership, but also
658
00:38:23,770 --> 00:38:26,490
give her a safe retreat from outdoor
predators.
659
00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:29,450
Where do I want you to build it? The
atrium.
660
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:33,250
Every time I walk into their home, I
have to walk through that central
661
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:36,890
It's a perfect spot for Max and Autumn
to play away from all the neighborhood
662
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:37,890
cats.
663
00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:41,550
All right, guys. It was great to see
you. Thank you so much for coming.
664
00:38:41,550 --> 00:38:42,550
totally welcome.
665
00:38:42,590 --> 00:38:45,670
When we brought Jackson here, we really
thought, okay, we're going to fix this
666
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:46,670
problem right away.
667
00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:52,130
And to have things get worse and to get
so much worse was really disheartening.
668
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:55,390
And if this doesn't work, that cat's out
of here.
669
00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:03,090
I'm going in for my final visit with
Deborah and Brian, their kids, and their
670
00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:07,090
cat, Autumn. The last time I was here,
we took a major step backwards. Autumn
671
00:39:07,090 --> 00:39:08,290
was still peeing all over the house.
672
00:39:08,530 --> 00:39:10,170
That huge spot there is cat pee.
673
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:14,020
And what does that mean? It means the
concept of rehoming this cat is still on
674
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:18,140
the table. What I'm hoping is these guys
did their homework, and that concept is
675
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,140
gone.
676
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:22,660
What's up, guys?
677
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,680
Hey. Hey, Jackson. Good to see you.
678
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,300
So, how's life?
679
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:33,320
We've been completely pee -free for
days.
680
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Yay! Yay!
681
00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:35,859
That's amazing.
682
00:39:35,860 --> 00:39:38,900
That's really great. A round of applause
for this family. Very good. Take a bow,
683
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,020
please. Thank you very much.
684
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:44,580
Having Jackson come here and really help
us figure out some solutions was really
685
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:48,720
key. I mean, it's really amazing what he
can do just by watching cat behavior.
686
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:50,740
Let's take a look at what we've got
going on here.
687
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:53,300
So, we are working on the catio.
688
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,200
One of the first things that struck me
was the building of the catio. Now,
689
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,120
guys put a lot of work into it.
690
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,460
Right here, we're going to put like a
giant big board.
691
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,840
This board right here. Yeah, that board
right there.
692
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:08,700
Okay. And then we also did the flashing
so she can't get on the roof.
693
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,740
All you've got to do is put bendable
steel right around the tree itself, and
694
00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:17,160
flashing discourages the cat from
shimmying all the way up the tree.
695
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:18,960
Okay, big, big day today.
696
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,580
We are going to clean up the cat poo,
and it's going to hopefully keep the
697
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:24,580
neighborhood cats away. Right, guys?
698
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,820
Right. All right, let's do it.
699
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,080
So, we are all done. No cat would ever
want to go poo there.
700
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,940
They changed out all the topsoil that
was out there with rocks. What does that
701
00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:40,140
mean? It's not a friendly place to put a
marker down if you're a cat.
702
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,800
And there is the X graveyard of pedon
items.
703
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:46,360
Better soak it good.
704
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:47,720
I will.
705
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,400
Cool. Good work.
706
00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:54,020
Now listen, I want to get up and walk
around a little bit. Great. Sounds good.
707
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:55,460
We took a storage container.
708
00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:57,680
And with a top.
709
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,080
So, voila.
710
00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:03,440
Asking anyone to put a litter box on
their kitchen counter is something
711
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,680
usually met with a lot of resistance.
They went with it, and since then, she
712
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,500
hasn't gone on the counter. That's big
news.
713
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,920
So here's the caveat.
714
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,600
You make it to a week. Yeah. We start
getting rid of that.
715
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,840
Oh, yay. Really?
716
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Yes, yes.
717
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,240
That was very exciting, actually. Yeah,
we were putting it up there for the
718
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,178
first time.
719
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:24,000
The thought wasn't going through my head
of how long is this going to be up
720
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,620
here? Is this like a permanent thing?
721
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,780
Come on. Let's go take a look at that
catio.
722
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:30,500
Oh, my God.
723
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,020
Guys, this is exactly what we were
talking about last time.
724
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,720
You have a catio.
725
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,780
I'm really proud of you guys.
726
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:45,760
So we're out on the catio, and I'm
watching Autumn take shelf after shelf
727
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,500
catio. And you know what she never does?
728
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,120
She never looks behind her. She never
wants to see who's out to get her. She's
729
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,180
different cat than the first cat that I
met just a few short weeks ago. She's
730
00:41:56,180 --> 00:42:00,820
not a hunted animal anymore. And because
of that, Autumn has been peeing in the
731
00:42:00,820 --> 00:42:01,820
litter box.
732
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:03,000
Talk about this one.
733
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,920
So you are absolutely 100 % on the right
track.
734
00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:10,060
You've got to be pretty happy.
735
00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:11,868
I would hope.
736
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:15,950
I'm happy that Autumn stopped peeing
everywhere because if she never stopped,
737
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:18,110
then we wouldn't have her today.
738
00:42:18,890 --> 00:42:22,890
I just want to make sure that Autumn is
going to spend the rest of her life with
739
00:42:22,890 --> 00:42:26,230
you guys. Is that true? Autumn is going
to spend the rest of her life here with
740
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:31,130
us. That's all I need to hear, and I'm a
happy man. And I think that the reason
741
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:34,410
why Autumn is here, it's because of you.
742
00:42:34,850 --> 00:42:38,330
And now listen, before I leave, I got
something. Give me one second, okay?
743
00:42:39,210 --> 00:42:41,370
I just wanted Erin to know how proud I
was of her.
744
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:43,110
Oh, my God.
745
00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:46,370
Erin, I just wanted to present this to
you.
746
00:42:46,570 --> 00:42:51,070
I wanted her to know that her work was
not going unnoticed. I brought her in a
747
00:42:51,070 --> 00:42:55,390
craft pack, something so she could build
some more toys. I was blown away. When
748
00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:58,870
I first came in here the first day, she
had bamboo with a string and a feather
749
00:42:58,870 --> 00:43:03,190
on the end of it, and she was playing
with Autumn with a toy that she made.
750
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:07,690
is Erin's toy building toolbox.
751
00:43:08,510 --> 00:43:09,510
Oh, that is awesome.
752
00:43:09,730 --> 00:43:12,090
Erin's really creative, and she's always
coming up with ideas.
753
00:43:12,350 --> 00:43:16,830
And so that's one of the things that she
was really enthusiastic about.
754
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:21,250
You got all that you need in here to
build toys. We got some more sticks for
755
00:43:21,250 --> 00:43:25,210
you. I know that you prefer bamboo, so
you can do that whenever you want. But
756
00:43:25,210 --> 00:43:28,490
also in here, we have all the tools that
you'll need.
757
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:29,710
We have toys.
758
00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:33,830
We have Velcro in here for you to get
all that stuff down.
759
00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:35,030
I'm keeping it.
760
00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:36,550
You're keeping the whole thing.
761
00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:39,750
I'm going to make toys for the cat.
762
00:43:39,970 --> 00:43:42,470
And enjoy growing up with your cat.
763
00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:46,650
You've got a lot of years left with her.
Her kids and the cat are going to grow
764
00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:47,249
up together.
765
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:51,330
They're going to be companions for one
another, and that is so invaluable for
766
00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:52,350
both human and animal.
767
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:54,750
Let me know if you need me for anything,
okay?
768
00:43:54,970 --> 00:43:56,330
All right. Thank you for coming.
769
00:43:56,670 --> 00:44:00,150
Jackson, we just want to say thank you
so much for coming all the way up to San
770
00:44:00,150 --> 00:44:04,770
Francisco. You've really helped to save
a cat and reunite a cat with a little
771
00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:10,680
girl. There's Autumn sleeping on Aaron's
bed, so we're very happy about that.
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