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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,300 --> 00:00:03,040 Buddy won't let us touch him. 2 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:08,160 She refers to Buddy as her child. 3 00:00:08,420 --> 00:00:09,420 This is what he did. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,400 He's a stray that gets fed. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,980 He's a stray cat. 6 00:00:15,740 --> 00:00:22,060 After every attack, there's always a bloody cat. 7 00:00:22,260 --> 00:00:23,280 She was out to kill. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,640 At the end of the road, for Colleen, she'll be... 9 00:00:32,780 --> 00:00:33,960 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600 I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,880 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 12 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:47,420 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,280 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,320 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,280 When relationships are at an end... I don't have many more options than to 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,959 leave. ...and cat guardians have reached their emotional limit... Just get rid 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,860 of her. ...I'm their last hope. 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,500 You all right? 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,200 Harry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one. 20 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:18,900 Whoa! 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Come on. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,010 Buddy. No. 23 00:01:27,490 --> 00:01:28,490 No. 24 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:38,590 Today I'm going to go see Bob and Stephanie. They've got a cat named Buddy 25 00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:42,610 a Scottish Fold, a rare breed who just wandered into their yard one day pretty 26 00:01:42,610 --> 00:01:46,350 well feral. That means he can't be touched, handled. He doesn't want 27 00:01:46,350 --> 00:01:47,350 do with people. 28 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:51,550 They're heartbroken about this because they just want a pet. 29 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:54,750 I'm going in there today to see if there's any way I can help. I don't 30 00:01:54,850 --> 00:01:55,850 Turn back the clock. 31 00:01:58,250 --> 00:01:59,630 I'm Bob. I'm Stephanie. 32 00:01:59,910 --> 00:02:01,870 We've been together about 15 years. 33 00:02:02,130 --> 00:02:06,450 Bob and I met at a grocery store when I worked there. I used to bag his 34 00:02:06,450 --> 00:02:08,009 groceries, and then I bagged him. 35 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:14,770 Bob and I do not have any children, but we have Buddy, who is our Scottish Fold 36 00:02:14,770 --> 00:02:15,770 cat. 37 00:02:16,850 --> 00:02:22,950 She refers to Buddy as her child. He's a stray that gets fed. 38 00:02:23,330 --> 00:02:24,470 But not a stray cat. 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:35,040 One day I was looking out in the backyard and I see this great cat. He 40 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,060 leave. What are you doing? 41 00:02:36,620 --> 00:02:41,180 I think he's got, you know, his doubts about humans for whatever reason. 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,920 When we do reach out for him, that's his instant reaction is to lash out at us 43 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:45,920 to protect himself. 44 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:48,420 He goes ballistic. He swipes at us. 45 00:02:49,780 --> 00:02:51,180 He's not very happy about this. 46 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,240 And me, I'm scared to death. 47 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,320 He won't let us touch him. He won't let us pet him. I think he thinks that we're 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,119 really going to... 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,680 I don't think with Buddy that's ever been an option to pet him or hold him or 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,680 anything like that. 51 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:04,999 We're hooked. 52 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Okay. 53 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:08,020 Let's go. 54 00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:12,860 Buddy? When I reach out, he lashes out at me. 55 00:03:14,460 --> 00:03:16,740 Stephanie would wish he could become a pet. 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,940 I don't believe there can be any further relationship other than him hanging 57 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:23,420 here to eat and then taking off. 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,620 I disagree. See, I believe that there is hope for him, and I'm not going to give 59 00:03:27,620 --> 00:03:28,620 up on him. 60 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:34,320 Hey. Hey. How are you? 61 00:03:34,540 --> 00:03:35,540 Oh, I get a hug. 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,620 Amazing. Good to know you. 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Me too. Thanks for having me over, guys. 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Thank you for coming. 65 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,100 Yeah. So what's happening? 66 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:49,400 Buddy, he is our Scottish fold that adopted us about two and a half, almost 67 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680 three years now. He showed up at our back door one day. 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,540 I broke down and went and got him chicken from the grocery store, and he's 69 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:56,540 with us ever since. 70 00:03:56,780 --> 00:03:59,880 Scottish Folds are a rare breed, but they're also known as being typically 71 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,120 affectionate and outgoing, so it really saddens me to know that this guy is just 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,360 wandering the community feral for the most part. 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,040 If you move any hand movement, he'll go like that to you. So he's hand shy. 74 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:12,920 He's just defending himself, we assume. 75 00:04:13,630 --> 00:04:18,950 The fact is he spent enough time outside, right, that he started to 76 00:04:18,950 --> 00:04:23,190 to almost a feral nature, which a feral cat is one that doesn't trust human 77 00:04:23,190 --> 00:04:27,830 beings. So what was it about Buddy specifically that made you go, let's 78 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:28,830 a step further? 79 00:04:30,210 --> 00:04:32,890 When I first met Stephanie, she had no hope. 80 00:04:34,910 --> 00:04:40,380 I know how it feels to... need help stephanie is this cat buddy that's all 81 00:04:40,380 --> 00:04:45,500 and she wants to pay forward the vibe that bob paid to her all those years ago 82 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:49,780 i'll tell you i i love a challenge my job is constantly giving me a challenge 83 00:04:49,780 --> 00:04:55,150 yeah he's been a challenge for me what do you do i'm an architect When someone 84 00:04:55,150 --> 00:04:58,910 tells me that their job is an architect, I know that that's something I can work 85 00:04:58,910 --> 00:05:02,410 with. Bob and Stephanie, they're not in the mindset of their client, their 86 00:05:02,410 --> 00:05:05,910 architectural client buddy, and they're going to have to get there in order to 87 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:06,930 invite him into this house. 88 00:05:07,310 --> 00:05:10,650 So I want to see the whole territory, what he considers safe and what he 89 00:05:10,650 --> 00:05:13,490 considers not safe, all that. So if you guys want to guide me around, it would 90 00:05:13,490 --> 00:05:14,189 be great. 91 00:05:14,190 --> 00:05:17,170 I buy Buddy a whole chicken once a week. Yeah, show me the feeding routine that 92 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:20,350 you do with him. He loves his chicken, but he only eats the breast. 93 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:22,550 Get out of here. 94 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:23,870 I'm not kidding. 95 00:05:24,030 --> 00:05:28,190 I love when great things are presented to me on a silver platter, so to speak. 96 00:05:28,270 --> 00:05:31,850 This time it's chicken. If he will come to it, regardless of if he doesn't trust 97 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:33,010 you, that chicken is gold. 98 00:05:33,310 --> 00:05:37,750 That we can work with. All right, let's keep going. Let me see what else you 99 00:05:37,750 --> 00:05:38,750 guys got for me. All right. 100 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:41,530 So this is the backyard. 101 00:05:41,870 --> 00:05:46,710 Okay, so now this is his world part two. This is where he comes from and up 102 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:47,710 through in here. 103 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,820 This is a really nice yard. And I'm starting to think, look, I've got an 104 00:05:50,820 --> 00:05:54,060 architect inside, and I've got a cat that really needs to be part of this 105 00:05:54,140 --> 00:05:56,900 so this could really be part of it. You've got a great yard here. 106 00:05:57,220 --> 00:05:58,260 This is wonderful. 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,600 And so where does he tend to come from? Where does he hang out? Show me. I'd see 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,980 him cross the street to the yard where there's a lot of stuff in it. And then 109 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:10,720 jump over into the other yard or go over there and watch the other cats. Yeah. 110 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:12,500 That's Buddy's favorite spot. Yeah. 111 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Why, if you have this, why do you need all that? 112 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:20,820 We have to make him feel that this whole thing is enough. That's correct. 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,280 Because honestly, this is enough. 114 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:24,880 There's a lot of good stuff here, you know what I mean? 115 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:26,480 So here's what I want to do. 116 00:06:26,940 --> 00:06:31,440 I want to see where his, quote, safe spot is across the street. So if you 117 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,560 want to, you want to put on a jacket, let's go take a walk. Great. 118 00:06:34,140 --> 00:06:39,080 I can't imagine why he would choose to run off across the street to a junkyard 119 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,520 as opposed to being in this beautiful house with these people every day. This 120 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,920 his world, huh? This is his world. 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,360 What an interesting world back here, man. Let's keep walking back here a 122 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:54,640 bit. There's an amazing amount of stuff here. I mean, ancient torture devices to 123 00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:00,260 all kinds of things. But, and it, I don't even know if that's like a 124 00:07:00,260 --> 00:07:03,280 or something. I think it was an incinerator, wasn't it? That or a kiln. 125 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:06,420 Yeah, it is a mess. The house is abandoned. 126 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:09,900 There's just wind blowing through all the windows and everything. 127 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Just junk. 128 00:07:12,270 --> 00:07:13,830 There's just stuff everywhere. 129 00:07:14,130 --> 00:07:19,930 And I could imagine suddenly why a cat like Buddy loved this space. 130 00:07:20,170 --> 00:07:21,970 All I'm seeing when I look around here. 131 00:07:22,330 --> 00:07:23,490 Is places to hide. 132 00:07:23,810 --> 00:07:27,570 Exactly. Exactly. Thank you. You're welcome. Thinking like a cat. There you 133 00:07:27,650 --> 00:07:29,150 I think he's found safety in this. 134 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:30,460 in this spot. 135 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:36,020 Here is the nature of what I would call a cave dweller. He goes into spaces in 136 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:37,020 order to feel secure. 137 00:07:37,260 --> 00:07:39,740 It's not that he feels confident in those spaces. 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,700 He feels safe. It's the only place he feels safe. I love the fact that you 139 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:47,520 are so in tune with him that you go, yes, this is his safe place. 140 00:07:47,780 --> 00:07:49,060 As sad as that seems. 141 00:07:49,630 --> 00:07:54,590 This is his safe place. It's not like I'm going to make you guys recreate the 142 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:57,350 junkyard in your backyard so you can breathe, Bob. 143 00:07:58,270 --> 00:08:03,270 It's not that. But as an architect, it's so important to know your client. 144 00:08:03,410 --> 00:08:07,310 Design a house around this is what I'm saying, but in a constructive, 145 00:08:07,570 --> 00:08:11,470 aesthetically appealing way for the architect. But this is great 146 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:14,230 But let's make this the past. 147 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,860 Let's move forward into the present. 148 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:20,100 Let's do it. Sounds great. Let's go back. All right. The architect's got to 149 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:21,520 on the same page as the cave dweller. 150 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,100 I got some work to do to get these guys together. 151 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,360 See you in the yard. 152 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:26,699 Let's go see Buddy. 153 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:28,820 All right, let's do it. All right, let me grab my cage here. 154 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:32,919 Bob and Steph knew I was coming over, so last night after they fed Buddy... 155 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,159 They closed that door and wouldn't let him out of the house. Now, of course, he 156 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:39,400 hasn't been happy about it for the past 24 hours, but they were really smart. 157 00:08:39,659 --> 00:08:41,659 I need to meet my client. 158 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,340 So it was time to go into the room where I knew Buddy was and get to meet him 159 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:46,099 one -on -one. 160 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:47,100 You have to excuse me. 161 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,320 Okay. 162 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,580 I think he's under here. 163 00:08:54,030 --> 00:08:58,250 I saw where Buddy was. He was pretty much lodged underneath this movable 164 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:02,670 hamper, really caved well to the nth degree. I thought right away this was 165 00:09:02,670 --> 00:09:06,550 to upset Bob and Steph if I kind of meet him the way I want to meet him with 166 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:08,990 them in the room, so I sent them away. I need to see you, man. 167 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:10,390 You're going to hate me. 168 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:11,750 All right, Buddy. 169 00:09:13,630 --> 00:09:14,750 There you are. 170 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:17,130 Hi, Bucko. 171 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:18,910 Hi. 172 00:09:20,290 --> 00:09:22,330 Well, look at your little foldy self. 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,120 I got treats for you, buddy. Look what I got for you. 174 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,080 Come here, bud. 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,160 It's okay. 176 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,480 All right, buddy. 177 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,920 You don't have to be in the corner if you don't want to. 178 00:09:35,620 --> 00:09:37,340 Oh, God, you smell. 179 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,140 What's going on with your jaw? 180 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:41,020 What is that? 181 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,920 I got to see what's going on with your jaw. 182 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Hi. 183 00:09:45,380 --> 00:09:46,380 Okay. 184 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Damn it. 185 00:09:50,940 --> 00:09:51,940 Man. 186 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:54,980 There is something going on in your mouth, man. 187 00:09:55,620 --> 00:09:56,840 Are you going to swipe me or what? 188 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,840 I got this close and bam, he got me. 189 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:05,820 Then he hissed at me and man, that hiss just about knocked me off my feet. It's 190 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:07,780 not just normal cat bad breath. 191 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:11,180 Something in there smells like it died and we got to take care of it. 192 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,760 What is that? 193 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:17,980 You don't like my hands very much, right? 194 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:20,340 It's okay. 195 00:10:21,390 --> 00:10:22,390 It's okay. 196 00:10:24,410 --> 00:10:26,450 Just checking to see if there's actually something in there. 197 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:29,730 I'll be putting some hydrogen peroxide on this wound to make sure I don't get 198 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:30,730 any kind of an infection. 199 00:10:30,970 --> 00:10:33,990 You can never be too careful with a wound inflicted by a feral cat. 200 00:10:34,690 --> 00:10:36,710 Clearly, toys are not something you want. 201 00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:38,690 No toys, no food. 202 00:10:39,610 --> 00:10:42,430 Just big gaping holes in Jackson's body. 203 00:10:43,170 --> 00:10:44,170 All right, buddy. 204 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:45,910 That's enough for you right now. 205 00:10:46,270 --> 00:10:49,430 I got about as much information as I was going to get out of this petrified cat. 206 00:10:49,570 --> 00:10:52,970 I really didn't want to stress him out any further. And now we can decompress 207 00:10:52,970 --> 00:10:55,550 for a second because I'm going to give Bob and Stephanie a whole bunch of 208 00:10:55,550 --> 00:10:59,590 homework. Let's get to the work here because you guys got work to do. The 209 00:10:59,590 --> 00:11:03,250 thing that I wanted to bring up was you guys got to get into the vet. 210 00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:05,410 There's something going on. 211 00:11:05,650 --> 00:11:08,470 When he hissed at me, it was like death. 212 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:12,610 There must be an abscessed tooth in there, a bad wound. 213 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,820 something in his mouth is completely wrong. It smells awful. We've got to get 214 00:11:16,820 --> 00:11:20,280 him to the vet ASAP. Not only does he have to get to the vet, but here's the 215 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,140 catch, getting him into the carrier. 216 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,880 I think the best way for you to do that is just use the chicken to lead him into 217 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:26,880 the carrier, okay? 218 00:11:26,940 --> 00:11:27,719 All right. 219 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:33,660 Now, the second thing that I wanted to bring up was the whole concept of you 220 00:11:33,660 --> 00:11:34,660 being an architect. 221 00:11:34,890 --> 00:11:38,490 and him being your client. So I'm going to have you as the architect build the 222 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:42,770 house around the client in here. Now, let's all get up, go to the kitchen for 223 00:11:42,770 --> 00:11:43,790 second. I've got something else for you. 224 00:11:44,110 --> 00:11:47,630 Typically, I'm all about getting cat guardians to get their cats out of 225 00:11:47,630 --> 00:11:51,150 and moving around the house as quickly as possible. But because Buddy's 226 00:11:51,150 --> 00:11:54,070 basically reverted to a feral state, I have to treat this case differently. 227 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:58,200 What I want Bob to do is start thinking like an architect and create safe spaces 228 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,380 for Buddy around the home where he can cave dwell and feel safe in their home. 229 00:12:02,580 --> 00:12:04,800 Having Buddy feel safe is our first step. 230 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:06,500 All right, guys. 231 00:12:07,380 --> 00:12:08,840 First of all, indulge me. 232 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:10,960 Here you go. Please pass this down. 233 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:13,400 Seriously. All right. Yeah? 234 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:14,620 I love this. 235 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,600 Okay. Now, here's the thing. 236 00:12:18,030 --> 00:12:20,870 Ever since this morning, when you told me what was going on, I started 237 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:25,230 marinating these gloves in the chicken. I want you to keep doing that. This is 238 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:28,430 ridiculous. This is not our normal attire. Because here's the thing, this 239 00:12:28,430 --> 00:12:33,610 going to sound really weird, but I want to start desensitizing the hands by 240 00:12:33,610 --> 00:12:37,230 presenting them as something that is always good to him. 241 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:41,080 Buddy definitely has an issue with hands. Every time Steph goes to pet him 242 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,080 anything like that, he scratches. 243 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:47,400 And that is concerning because that means the feral part of Buddy is strong. 244 00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:51,220 From now on, these meat gloves are going to be this tool for reassociating the 245 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:54,900 presence of hands and the movement of hands with the best thing in the world, 246 00:12:54,980 --> 00:12:56,440 which is the chicken. All right, guys. 247 00:12:56,830 --> 00:13:00,790 If you need me this week, you know where to find me. Keep your aprons. I'll keep 248 00:13:00,790 --> 00:13:02,970 mine. Thank you. We are praying that this works. 249 00:13:03,230 --> 00:13:07,270 I guess I'm one of those practical guys, so I'm not very confident. 250 00:13:07,470 --> 00:13:08,730 Whether you're going to be changed, I don't know. 251 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:23,910 I'm heading in right now to see Bob and Stephanie and their cat Buddy for the 252 00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:27,570 second visit. What I'm really hoping for is that Buddy is just beginning to 253 00:13:27,570 --> 00:13:30,650 trust a little bit more because the last time I was here, I was getting my butt 254 00:13:30,650 --> 00:13:32,010 literally kicked by this cat. 255 00:13:32,690 --> 00:13:37,050 Damn it. As long as he's making his way closer to the home, they've made some 256 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:38,050 significant gains. 257 00:13:39,630 --> 00:13:43,190 So, fill me in. What's happening with Buddy and with you guys? 258 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:47,510 Well, we got Buddy to the vet. 259 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:55,260 She gave him a thorough exam. She was concerned about his chin. She cleaned it 260 00:13:55,260 --> 00:13:59,440 out. She wanted to do a biopsy, so she did a biopsy, and the results were that 261 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,440 it's cancer. 262 00:14:05,660 --> 00:14:07,640 I am sorry. 263 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:11,980 Not good. 264 00:14:12,940 --> 00:14:17,460 I was thinking that maybe he had an abscess wound from a fight, but he has 265 00:14:17,460 --> 00:14:18,460 cancer? 266 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,500 Really didn't see that one coming at all. 267 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:23,320 Trying to get my arms around this one. 268 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Prognosis? 269 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:31,220 The vet said that she spoke to the oncologist and that time is crucial. 270 00:14:32,260 --> 00:14:34,640 But the procedure is $2 ,600. 271 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:41,640 We talked together earlier was that we were going to put it in Jackson's hands. 272 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:48,300 We want your honest opinion as far as what you think. What to do. 273 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:54,620 As soon as Bob and Stephanie put the decision about Buddy's life or death in 274 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:58,640 hands, first of all, the only thing that we're here to care about is Buddy's 275 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,720 well -being. If that cat is as wild as he was the first time I met him, and 276 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:03,780 going to get this surgery... 277 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,120 No life for him. He's going to have to be in a cage. He's going to have to have 278 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,140 recovery while he's completely freaked out, in pain, and still not accepting 279 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:15,380 touch. It's no way to live. 280 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,740 And at that point, you've got to start looking at what's the kindest thing for 281 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:24,780 him. That's not kind. I will, of course, give you my input. I'm going to do my 282 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:27,860 due diligence on this one as well. And I'll come back to you with what I think. 283 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:32,220 But in the meantime, let's talk about possible gains that you might have made 284 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:33,220 with him over the past couple weeks. 285 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:35,240 We've made some great gains. 286 00:15:35,580 --> 00:15:40,200 Really? Yeah. Oh, good. Okay. You guys shot some video for me. I've got it 287 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,300 so here we go. 288 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,680 What are you doing? 289 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,940 Last time I was here, I asked Bob and Stephanie to build out Buddy's safe area 290 00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:51,500 because he's a cave dweller. He needs to have surroundings in order to feel 291 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:57,000 safe. I want to create a whole maze of areas for him to come and hide. 292 00:15:57,260 --> 00:15:59,780 Bob had big plans, and I can't wait to see those plans. 293 00:16:00,580 --> 00:16:02,380 Come on, Buddy. You can do it. 294 00:16:03,530 --> 00:16:04,550 You ready to eat? 295 00:16:05,390 --> 00:16:09,210 We got to see Buddy coming in from outside. 296 00:16:09,490 --> 00:16:13,630 Hey. Stephanie hand -feeding this cat while she's wearing the gloves and 297 00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:18,390 reassociating the presence of hands with chicken. I don't even know if Stephanie 298 00:16:18,390 --> 00:16:22,230 realizes how massive this is. Two weeks ago, impossible. 299 00:16:22,650 --> 00:16:27,410 It wouldn't have happened. His only experience with hands is really 300 00:16:27,410 --> 00:16:31,730 to be able to be fed with a hand is bigger than you'll ever know. Yeah. 301 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:37,860 Oh, that was amazing. 302 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,600 After seeing all this great progress on the video homework, I had to see what 303 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,780 they had done with the expansion of Buddy's safe zone. This is so cool right 304 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:50,240 here. I put a cloth here so we could open and close that and look in as 305 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,380 Bed, carpet, boxes, tunnels. 306 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,680 You've gotten into the mind of a quote -unquote feral cat. 307 00:17:00,270 --> 00:17:04,069 Bob's job as an architect is to get people feeling safe and cozy in their 308 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:07,750 and that's what he's done for Buddy. And basically, you've got to remember that 309 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:12,150 Buddy has reverted to an almost feral state, and he's not going to trust 310 00:17:12,210 --> 00:17:15,630 The only way he's going to be able to confidently walk around this home is if 311 00:17:15,630 --> 00:17:17,770 feels safe first. Where is the boy right now? 312 00:17:18,010 --> 00:17:20,290 He's actually behind the firewood. Okay, then. 313 00:17:20,550 --> 00:17:21,829 We got him down here. 314 00:17:23,089 --> 00:17:24,089 All right, mister. 315 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:28,270 Oh, good morning. 316 00:17:30,510 --> 00:17:31,510 Hi, buddy. 317 00:17:31,690 --> 00:17:36,310 Stephanie, while I'm doing this, what I'd like you to do, go get some chicken. 318 00:17:37,030 --> 00:17:39,410 With your gloves on, please. 319 00:17:39,790 --> 00:17:41,150 Are you going to get some chicken? 320 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:43,830 Good boy. Hi. 321 00:17:45,050 --> 00:17:46,650 I'm going to pull myself to the side. 322 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:49,990 What's out here? 323 00:17:51,910 --> 00:17:52,910 I got chicken. 324 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:54,990 Good boy. 325 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:58,750 Good boy. 326 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Come on, buddy. 327 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:04,860 Good boy. 328 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,320 What? 329 00:18:08,180 --> 00:18:09,460 Look it, I got chicken. 330 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Are you kidding me? 331 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:14,020 What? 332 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,920 Are you kidding me? 333 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,560 When Buddy did come out of the woodpile, he didn't take the chicken. 334 00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:31,130 What he did take was much more important. He took the room. 335 00:18:31,450 --> 00:18:36,570 Yeah, he's acting a little scared, but he's a scared companion cat, not a caged 336 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:37,850 -in wild cat anymore. 337 00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:42,550 When I go away for two weeks and I come back and you see this, it blows you away 338 00:18:42,550 --> 00:18:46,290 because he's not feral trapped inside a house. 339 00:18:47,050 --> 00:18:50,250 He's just sort of a scaredy cat indoors. 340 00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:54,990 He just needed his own little cave, his nook, his cranny. I knew at that moment 341 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:56,370 that Buddy was coming around. 342 00:18:57,550 --> 00:19:02,070 I was ready to tell you that it wasn't fair to him to keep him around. 343 00:19:03,390 --> 00:19:08,130 But I completely changed my mind, and I recommend that you go forward with the 344 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:13,630 surgery. I wouldn't be so sure about saying that if it weren't for what I saw 345 00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:17,630 today. What we're facing here is a new hurdle that's added to this whole 346 00:19:17,630 --> 00:19:18,630 project. 347 00:19:19,870 --> 00:19:24,790 It's terrible, though, so it's not like it's going to... Well, the hurdle here 348 00:19:24,790 --> 00:19:26,870 is the $2 ,600 price tag. 349 00:19:27,290 --> 00:19:28,930 But he will live if he has this procedure. 350 00:19:30,090 --> 00:19:32,670 I don't know what else to say. I mean, I'm going to start crying. 351 00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:36,090 Long story short, I recommend that you go forward with the surgery. 352 00:19:36,510 --> 00:19:37,510 I do too. 353 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:41,850 The cancer itself can be managed, but Bob's in control of all the finances in 354 00:19:41,850 --> 00:19:45,990 this home. So if they're going to cough up nearly $3 ,000 for this surgery, it's 355 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:48,090 going to come from him, and I've got to get his buy -in. 356 00:19:49,090 --> 00:19:50,230 Bob, are you on board on this? 357 00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:53,650 Can I get your commitment that this is going to happen? 358 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,640 I was waiting for your assurance that you felt the right thing. 359 00:20:02,060 --> 00:20:03,060 I'll commit to it. 360 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:06,300 Right on, man. 361 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Thank you. 362 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:18,100 Every cat deserves this, man. Every cat 363 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:19,079 deserves this. 364 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,780 And Buddy gets this today, man. And that is a privilege to watch. 365 00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:28,080 It's been a long process with him, and to know that there's hope still for him, 366 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,380 that means everything to me. 367 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,580 You are already giving him a new lease on life, so thank you. Stephanie is 368 00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:40,960 somebody who was rescued. She was a stray 20 years ago. Bob took her in, and 369 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,460 has desperately wanted to pay it forward. Buddy was that case where she 370 00:20:45,460 --> 00:20:47,160 pay it forward, and she knows it. 371 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:50,890 Knowing that we're going forward with the surgery, There's a few things I want 372 00:20:50,890 --> 00:20:51,890 you to take care of, okay? 373 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:54,490 First of all, I want you to build up a backyard. 374 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:58,550 This belongs to a company that I've worked with before. They're called 375 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:03,430 Fence, and it includes that kind of 45 -degree angle protrusion that comes out 376 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:05,630 so heat won't go out and nobody else comes in. 377 00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:09,770 Once he's inside, we're going to take the caves that you've made in there with 378 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:11,950 tunnels, get more, bring them out here. 379 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:15,690 A lot going on in the next couple of weeks. I'll check in with you after 380 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:17,330 so we know where we're standing, okay? 381 00:21:17,850 --> 00:21:18,850 All right, guys. 382 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:19,980 Hang in there. Thank you. 383 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,040 Now it's time for a kitty bit. 384 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,600 In which country are black cats considered lucky? 385 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:32,920 A, Japan, B, Italy, or C, Germany? 386 00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:34,800 The answer after this break. 387 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:44,600 Now it's time for a kitty bit. 388 00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:47,880 In which country are black cats considered lucky? 389 00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:52,930 The answer is A, Japan. While many Americans and Europeans believe black 390 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:56,110 be unlucky, the opposite is true in many Asian countries. 391 00:21:57,910 --> 00:22:01,290 I'm going in for my last visit with Bob and Stephanie and their cat, Buddy. Now, 392 00:22:01,290 --> 00:22:04,590 this one's been a real roller coaster. I mean, Buddy was pretty much feral the 393 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:05,590 first time I met him. 394 00:22:05,670 --> 00:22:10,050 Now, he's just come out of cancer surgery. I can just hope walking in 395 00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:14,570 that he's that much closer to being a companion and that much further away 396 00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:16,550 being a feral cat. How's the boy? 397 00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:22,530 The boy is doing good. Is he really? 398 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:24,830 They got all the cancer out from his surgery. Really? 399 00:22:25,170 --> 00:22:28,190 How long was he in the hospital? He was in overnight. I picked him up the next 400 00:22:28,190 --> 00:22:31,530 day, and she called me with the results three days later, and she said that they 401 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:32,890 got it all. He's cancer -free. 402 00:22:33,150 --> 00:22:34,410 Oh, yay. 403 00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:40,190 But he wandered this neighborhood for years until somebody who also was thrown 404 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:43,790 away at some point in their life said, nah, this is not going to happen to 405 00:22:43,790 --> 00:22:45,010 another being on my watch. 406 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,340 The next thing I want to do is go over your video homework. 407 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,780 Okay. So let's take a look at what you've done this time. 408 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:56,740 I got to see the guys from Perfect Fence putting up this amazing system in the 409 00:22:56,740 --> 00:22:59,360 backyard, which will keep Buddy safe. 410 00:23:00,140 --> 00:23:01,140 Amazing. Really? 411 00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:05,320 Bob and Stephanie told me that they had continued to expand the safe zone for 412 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,640 Buddy, making him feel like this was really his home. 413 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,080 Are you becoming a cat again? 414 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,880 Hi, Buddy. 415 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,860 I can tell you one thing right now. The feral has left the building. We got to 416 00:23:17,860 --> 00:23:23,640 see Buddy busting out of his shell, walking around with confidence, proving 417 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,620 he had trust, proving that this cat who was living out here wild and cold and 418 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:30,440 scared and without family had one. 419 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:32,060 Hello? 420 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,880 That's incredible. 421 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:37,540 Congratulations. Thank you. 422 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,380 Because he's coming around now. 423 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:43,440 Now, speaking of going around, I really want to go around. 424 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,620 Come on. I wanted to go into the room where I knew Buddy was because on top of 425 00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:49,540 everything else, I wanted to check on his mouth since his cancer surgery. 426 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Hi. How are you doing? 427 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,040 I cannot even tell he's had surgery. And that horrible smell coming from his 428 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,240 mouth? Gone. 429 00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:01,560 It is. Look at how that's healing. 430 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:06,090 When this whole process started, Buddy was back into a feral state, and now he 431 00:24:06,090 --> 00:24:09,130 wants to be out here with us and hang out. Come on, let's go, buddy. 432 00:24:09,790 --> 00:24:10,790 Buddy. 433 00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:12,150 Come on. 434 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:16,290 There we go. Good boy. 435 00:24:16,570 --> 00:24:16,949 Come on, baby. 436 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:19,410 Good boy, buddy. Come back in, Stephanie. 437 00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:20,670 Good boy. Come on, baby. 438 00:24:21,030 --> 00:24:24,110 There we go. Come on, baby. 439 00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:25,390 Let's go. 440 00:24:25,650 --> 00:24:26,650 Oh, 441 00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:27,790 look at how he moved. 442 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:33,630 This cat was pretty much feral just a few weeks ago. He wouldn't come near 443 00:24:33,630 --> 00:24:38,630 guys. So the fact that Stephanie can call this cat and that he responds to 444 00:24:38,730 --> 00:24:42,130 that means to me that Buddy has left his feral days behind. 445 00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:47,530 Man, you have paid it forward, you know? You were trying to show him that love 446 00:24:47,530 --> 00:24:50,050 for two -plus years, and now... 447 00:24:50,330 --> 00:24:54,190 My belief is he knows that love. He does? He gets it. When we first started 448 00:24:54,190 --> 00:24:58,010 feeding him, he didn't want anything to do with human beings. But where he is 449 00:24:58,010 --> 00:25:03,470 today is so much further down the road than where he was. I wasn't a 100 % 450 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:04,770 believer that it could be done. 451 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,360 I am now. I expect you guys to send me some footage of eating out of the hand, 452 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:15,620 petting. So let me know. Keep me in the loop. I am telling you, you're going to 453 00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:20,840 get it. Once I see them petting Buddy, a cat who was basically feral, once I see 454 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,280 that, then I'll be able to say this has an even happier ending. 455 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Thank you, Jackson. 456 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,720 You're totally welcome. 457 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,100 This journey with Jackson and the whole process has been amazing. The rewards 458 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:35,590 have been unexplainable, and the outcome is just... Unbelievable. 459 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:42,370 This is Mama petting you, huh? 460 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:44,730 It's all right. 461 00:25:45,370 --> 00:25:46,810 You're such a good boy. 462 00:25:47,570 --> 00:25:49,390 I just pet him. Thank you very much. 463 00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:52,690 Don't you do it, Tully. 464 00:26:01,390 --> 00:26:03,790 I'm heading over right now to see Gloria and Angela. 465 00:26:04,410 --> 00:26:06,510 They have two cats, Tokyo and Godzilla. 466 00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:10,870 They added a third, Callie, who's a big troublemaker beating up the other cats 467 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:14,090 in the home. As a matter of fact, the trouble is so bad that she's about to 468 00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:16,950 rehomed. I'm going over there right now to make sure that that doesn't happen. 469 00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:19,470 I'm Angela. And I'm Gloria. 470 00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:23,110 And we've been together for ten years. And we've been married four years. 471 00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:26,830 I knew right away that I wanted to be with her. I think what I like the most 472 00:26:26,830 --> 00:26:29,130 about her is she's so funny. She makes me laugh. 473 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:31,130 And we've been together ever since. We've been happy. 474 00:26:31,670 --> 00:26:33,090 Well, until recently. 475 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Don't you do it, Kali. 476 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,820 Get her, get her, get her, get her. 477 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,140 When we just had the two cats, everything was pretty mellow. This is 478 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:46,580 Tokyo. Godzilla's on the right. 479 00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:48,020 Tokyo's on the left. 480 00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:50,240 I've been wanting a third cat for a long time. 481 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,580 So I ran off to the pound and I brought Kali home. 482 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,060 Kali's first real interaction with Godzilla in Tokyo was a full -out war. 483 00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:00,060 was out to kill. 484 00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,630 After every attack, there's always a bloody cat. 485 00:27:09,550 --> 00:27:12,670 When Kali can't get to because they're in Tokyo, she'll attack me. 486 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:14,010 Why are you so mean, Kali? 487 00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:22,210 It's tough on our relationship in general. It's tough to even be in that 488 00:27:22,330 --> 00:27:23,590 I don't want to come home at night. 489 00:27:26,650 --> 00:27:32,090 If we have to take Kali back to the pound, it's basically like giving her a 490 00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:33,090 death sentence. 491 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:39,180 So to take her back to where I know she'll be is pretty rough to think 492 00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,940 we were to send Callie back to the shelter, I wouldn't be able to forgive 493 00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:42,940 myself. 494 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:54,360 Hey, Jackson. How are you? I'm good. All right. 495 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Tell me what's happening. 496 00:27:56,100 --> 00:28:00,300 We have three cats, Godzilla, Tokyo, and Callie. And Callie is absolutely 497 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,120 horrendous. She wants to kill them. 498 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,600 And, you know, she'll attack us as well if we try to interfere. We've both been 499 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,600 to urgent care and stuff. 500 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,640 You've both been to urgent care? 501 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,640 Both Angela and Gloria have been sent to urgent care with cat bites before. 502 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,960 That's not that unusual. 503 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,920 Eighty percent of all cat bites get infected. 504 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:19,360 But I'm glad they called me in because in a household this violent, the odds 505 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,740 that one or both of them will wind up with more infected cat bites, and that's 506 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:23,740 pretty dangerous. 507 00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:24,940 How did you get Kali? 508 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,440 From the panel. She's probably about 15 months now. She was a stray. 509 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,160 Kali has been doing this nonstop since when? 510 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:32,609 Since we got here. 511 00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:33,610 How long ago was that? 512 00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:34,850 So almost six months. 513 00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:38,750 Why do the fights keep happening? How is it allowed that they keep happening? 514 00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:40,010 It's not allowed. 515 00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:42,410 They're totally separate. They are completely separate. 516 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:44,070 Tokyo, you ready for bed? 517 00:28:44,350 --> 00:28:47,170 Godzilla in Tokyo. Sleeping with us and Kali's two rooms away. 518 00:28:47,790 --> 00:28:52,130 About two months ago, I think we hit our limit. I got in touch with this local 519 00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:56,710 no -kill shelter, and they agreed to put her up for adoption for us. 520 00:28:57,929 --> 00:29:01,790 So we drop her off on Saturday mornings and pick her up again Thursday night. 521 00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:03,390 What happens if she doesn't get adopted? 522 00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:07,230 She might end up going back to the shelter. 523 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:11,390 Mistakes just went through the roof on this one. I've got a cat living half her 524 00:29:11,390 --> 00:29:15,690 time at home and half her time in a shelter. It doesn't make any sense 525 00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:19,990 the cat is territorially neither here nor there. This is pressure like I've 526 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:20,990 never felt before. 527 00:29:21,310 --> 00:29:25,170 Now listen, I want to take a look at the place. I want to meet the cats. Okay. 528 00:29:25,270 --> 00:29:26,270 All right, let's do it. 529 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,800 It's time to just see what I can do to maybe minimize the effects of these 530 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,800 attacks. 531 00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,440 Hi, my baby. 532 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:35,500 Wow. 533 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960 So in terms of being carried around, she's pretty cool, isn't she? 534 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,640 I really believe that she could just be saying, you know, I don't own what I 535 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,140 want to own, meaning this territory, so I'm going to grab it from these guys. 536 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:53,040 Kali did spend her early years as a street cat, fending for herself, 537 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,840 food at any cost, which leads me to believe that it's not people that rile 538 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,840 up, it's other cats. 539 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:03,040 And we've got to get her to that point where she feels like she can coexist and 540 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,040 share territory. 541 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,140 Who's in here right now? 542 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:07,700 Godzilla in Tokyo. 543 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:09,140 Let's see what we see down here. 544 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:11,180 Hi. 545 00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:13,780 Hi, guys. 546 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,550 You see that look right now? That look is like... I'm completely trapped. 547 00:30:19,530 --> 00:30:24,790 These two boys are being so terrorized by this 15 -month -old female kitten 548 00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:26,390 they have absolutely no confidence left. 549 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:28,990 We're going to have a controlled meet. 550 00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:33,750 When I say controlled, we're just going to bring them towards each other. I just 551 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:37,110 want to see Colleen's response to these guys. When Jackson told us we're going 552 00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:41,270 to have all three cats in the room together, I was thinking, oh, God, 553 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:42,270 going to kill each other. 554 00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:44,490 This is crazy. This is not going to work. This is going to go bad. 555 00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:49,790 We are going to bring Collie out to the mix and see what happens. 556 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:52,510 Wish us luck. 557 00:30:52,790 --> 00:30:57,010 It's really important for me to see the natural behavior patterns that are going 558 00:30:57,010 --> 00:31:01,290 to emerge when these three cats have to deal with each other without walls, 559 00:31:01,450 --> 00:31:02,790 doors, or anything else. 560 00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:05,450 Okay, good. We got everybody. 561 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:07,330 Now we're going to stay completely calm. 562 00:31:08,270 --> 00:31:11,870 Right? Angela? How you doing over there? I'm good. Come on. 563 00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:13,090 Come on, sit down again. 564 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,340 Sit down for a second. 565 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:19,880 And let's see what transpires at this point. 566 00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:21,540 What are we hissing about? 567 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:25,020 She's totally locked on to these guys right now. 568 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,680 It's okay. 569 00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:29,440 You being scared stiff does not help anybody. 570 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,300 They're both, like, waiting for her to make a move. 571 00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:36,900 Let's let her wander around a little bit. I knew what was going to happen 572 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:40,140 all three of them in the room. It was just a matter of time. I was terrified. 573 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,620 I'm with Angela and Gloria and their cat, Collie. 574 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,980 Collie's been terrorizing their other two cats, Godzilla and Tokyo, so I had 575 00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,700 them bring all three cats into the same room to see how they interact. 576 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:08,500 Now we're just waiting to see what happens. They're both, like, waiting for 577 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:09,500 to make a move. 578 00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:11,140 Let's let her wander around a little bit. 579 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,260 It's really important for me to see the natural behavior patterns that are going 580 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:20,540 to emerge when these three cats have to deal with each other without walls, 581 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,060 doors, or anything else. 582 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,880 Okay, I've seen enough. Let's separate these guys. 583 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:45,340 That was a pretty ugly fight, but there's a silver lining. Godzilla stood 584 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:46,480 Kali. That's huge. 585 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,800 These boys still have some confidence left in them, and that's something I can 586 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,800 work with. 587 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,460 So now, play is something that's going to be hugely important. 588 00:32:57,820 --> 00:33:01,940 It's not just a matter of draining the prey behavior out of the 15 -month -old. 589 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:06,320 It's also about raising up the self -esteem of the cats that have been 590 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,080 on. And Gloria, I want you to be the one to play with Kali. 591 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:14,560 Now, I love using play. It provides a great increased bond between Guardian 592 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,540 Kat. And Kali's attacks on Gloria have been so bad that Gloria's been sent to 593 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:22,940 the hospital. Now, if Kali and Gloria can bond, the attack should end. Gloria 594 00:33:22,940 --> 00:33:26,160 should be safe. We're going to get these guys back together again as if they've 595 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,280 never met before by starting a feeding ritual. 596 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:31,840 I'd like you to install a screen door right here. 597 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:37,330 Your bedroom door. I'd also like you to start by hanging something on it all the 598 00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:42,310 way to the floor, okay? And over time, what you're going to do as you introduce 599 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:47,430 them is raise it up a little bit so that we introduce visual stimulation, okay? 600 00:33:47,770 --> 00:33:51,570 I'm going to reintroduce these guys using a screen door and a feeding ritual 601 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:54,010 that will really help acclimate them towards one another. 602 00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:58,270 Now, I've used this ritual many times before, and it's a surefire way of 603 00:33:58,270 --> 00:34:00,170 if two cats can ever truly get along. 604 00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:04,090 In order to really commit to this thing, we can't have her go into the shelter 605 00:34:04,090 --> 00:34:08,710 during the week and having her come back at the end of the week. Because she 606 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:11,530 won't understand territory if you keep taking it away. 607 00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:12,870 You guys good with that? Yep. 608 00:34:13,090 --> 00:34:14,089 All right, guys. 609 00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:16,130 There's a lot of work to be done. Thank you so much. 610 00:34:16,610 --> 00:34:19,290 We really want to keep our family together, all of it. 611 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:23,750 But this is really the last option for us and for Colleen. It has to work. 612 00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:26,870 Or, you know, it's the end of the road for her. 613 00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:36,980 I'm going to see Angela, Gloria, and their cat, Collie. The last time I was 614 00:34:36,980 --> 00:34:39,820 here, I saw one cat trying to kill two others. 615 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,300 Things had gotten so bad that Gloria was getting attacked constantly, and they 616 00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,340 were considering rehoming Collie or even sending her back to the kill shelter. I 617 00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:51,219 could be walking into mayhem. I have no idea. 618 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,719 Hey, Jackson. 619 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,420 So, guys, how's it going? 620 00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,200 Um, we're making a lot of progress with some things. 621 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,660 We've been doing all the homework. 622 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,800 You still bringing her to adoption? No. No. 623 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:03,019 Okay, you're not. 624 00:35:03,020 --> 00:35:06,180 Tell me what's happening right now that you're excited about. 625 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:10,900 Kali hasn't attacked either of us in I don't know how long. Amazing. I think 626 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:14,600 playing with her at regular times and all that good stuff has brought energy 627 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,220 with us. And we haven't taken Kali to the shelter at all. So she's a lot more 628 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:22,940 loving. You realize how huge that is, right? Yeah, that's big. But Kali's 629 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:25,840 behavior towards the other cats really hasn't improved at all. 630 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,740 Huh. She's still a little crazy. Yeah, she's awful. 631 00:35:33,249 --> 00:35:37,970 Some challenges that we have to work on. But what I want to do now is take a 632 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:39,010 look at your homework, huh? Okay. 633 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:40,910 Today's a good day for Tokyo. 634 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:42,750 Here's planes. 635 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:44,440 The boys are doing much better. 636 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Because of the play and feeding time happening consistently, Godzilla and 637 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,360 their confidence is increasing. They're no longer the terrified boys hiding 638 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,280 under the bed that I met the first time I was here. Next, it was time for the 639 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,540 feeding ritual, where Angela and Gloria have Kali on one side of the visual 640 00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:05,040 barrier. And they slowly acclimate Tokyo and Godzilla to her on the other side. 641 00:36:13,870 --> 00:36:15,510 This is how it's been going every night. 642 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:16,890 Oh. 643 00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:18,130 She goes nuts. 644 00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:21,930 The only mistake they made was that they had the boys a little bit too close to 645 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:26,390 the door. We need to reintroduce them slowly, and they need to follow my 646 00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:28,110 to a T to ensure success. 647 00:36:28,610 --> 00:36:31,410 All right, let's walk around a little bit. Show me the things that you've 648 00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:32,970 what's worked and what hasn't. Okay. 649 00:36:34,270 --> 00:36:37,610 Well, this is pretty outstanding right here. 650 00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:39,990 We've got a great visual barrier here. 651 00:36:40,290 --> 00:36:43,030 What's missing right now is the action, the ritual. 652 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,480 I want to see the feeding on either side of this door. I want to do the feeding 653 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,420 exercise properly by not pushing Tokyo and Godzilla too hard. All I want is for 654 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:56,000 them to eat at the same time they smell Kali and vice versa. This way we can 655 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,380 build a positive association between all the cats. 656 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:00,500 Ready? 657 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,840 Here we go. 658 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Really, Tokyo? 659 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,540 Tokyo and Godzilla scattered. 660 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,940 They didn't want anything to do with that door because they knew who was on 661 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:09,940 other side. 662 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,560 It's okay. 663 00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:23,900 Kali was happy, but I got to do something to increase Tokyo and 664 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,300 confidence or else they're never going to eat. I'm going to go get the toys. We 665 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,720 got the centipede thing. 666 00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:30,000 Let's try that one. 667 00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:34,240 I use toys to boost their confidence levels. If I can get them to hunt, 668 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:38,040 and kill something, then they'll get more confident. If they get more 669 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,480 then they'll eat at that screen door. 670 00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:41,300 Good boy, Godzilla. 671 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,360 Fat boys got to eat, you know. 672 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:44,900 It's true. 673 00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,020 Good. Nice. 674 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,360 Nice, nice, nice. 675 00:37:53,620 --> 00:37:54,620 Not bad. 676 00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:57,280 So right now, we've got the boys eating. 677 00:37:57,780 --> 00:37:58,780 Good dinner. 678 00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:02,980 Gloria, is Kali paying any attention to the door whatsoever? 679 00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:04,900 No, she's not. This is gold. 680 00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:06,380 This is great stuff. 681 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,240 Hey, man, I am completely impressed by Tokyo and Godzilla, but I was so proud 682 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,800 Kali. She's not puffed up. She's not hissing, no growling, no charging the 683 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,900 She's choosing to just eat. Talk about a winning situation. 684 00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:20,140 This is what it feels like. 685 00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:27,570 Okay. I want to start normalizing the experience of the food ritual. And that 686 00:38:27,570 --> 00:38:34,050 means bringing toys into it. Having that movement around the play into the eat. 687 00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:37,550 I want them to continue working with the feeding ritual. And that means getting 688 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:40,770 them to the point where they're a foot away from the door again. Back it up. 689 00:38:40,930 --> 00:38:41,970 Raise the blind. 690 00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:43,450 If we can get them close again. 691 00:38:43,650 --> 00:38:44,650 No attacks. 692 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:45,388 No nothing. 693 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:46,730 Just getting through the meals. 694 00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:48,690 Big, big step forward. 695 00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:50,170 I don't think it's... 696 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,420 In the long run, cool to lock her up every night. So you got to switch it up. 697 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,100 Kali gets your bedroom and the boys will sleep in Kali's room. It's what I call 698 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,078 sight swapping. 699 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,880 Sight swapping is important for several reasons. First of all, it'll give Kali 700 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,980 more bonding time with Angela and Gloria. 701 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Secondly, it'll get the cats more familiar with each other's scent. 702 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,040 And third, it'll give Kali more of a sense of ownership of the space. Once 703 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,300 feels like this is her home, she won't lash out so much at the other cats. 704 00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:19,098 going to get someplace. 705 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,300 At least I have faith. Okay. Are you guys down with that faith, though? Yeah. 706 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:23,300 think so. 707 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:26,760 She's like, yeah. You're like, I think so. We haven't had a good history with 708 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,840 Kali, and so I'm predicting future outcomes based on that history and not 709 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,840 on hopes. 710 00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:35,840 So that's probably why it's hard for me to have faith. 711 00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:45,940 I'm going in right now for my final visit with Gloria and Angela and their 712 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,080 Kali. I watched their homework and I saw they were using play to help boost self 713 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,080 -confidence. 714 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,260 They're sight -swapping and Kali is spending some nights with Gloria and 715 00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:57,260 The beast is sleeping with us tonight. 716 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,360 This is all great, but what I didn't see on video was the feeding exercise and 717 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,020 all three cats in the same room. That's the real test to see if they can finally 718 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:07,040 all live together in peace. 719 00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:08,680 Hey, how are you? Good. 720 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,860 So, tell me what's going on. 721 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,300 Hit me with it. What is it? 722 00:40:17,899 --> 00:40:19,840 Well, we were both in shock. 723 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,360 That went pretty well. 724 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,500 Really? Yeah. Now instead of Kali biting me, she'll come in and just lay and 725 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,320 just hang out. She's snuggling up. I mean, she's really nice to me. She just 726 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,320 hangs out with me. 727 00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:32,140 Why do you think it's happening? 728 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,500 Probably playing with her a lot more, so she's probably more relaxed. 729 00:40:35,860 --> 00:40:39,640 Yeah, Kali's been sleeping with us off and on. Off and on, yeah. And she seems 730 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,399 to love it. 731 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,100 Isn't that amazing, though? Yeah. 732 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:45,530 A little different. It means a lot. 733 00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:49,510 When I first met Gloria, Kali was spending half her time in the shelter, 734 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:54,050 and Gloria never bonded. And now she's coming to Gloria for affection and love, 735 00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:57,650 and it's really wonderful to see Gloria be happy about this relationship. 736 00:40:58,050 --> 00:40:58,888 Good stuff. 737 00:40:58,890 --> 00:40:59,808 What else? 738 00:40:59,810 --> 00:41:03,630 Well, actually, a couple of nights ago, we started feeding without the sight 739 00:41:03,630 --> 00:41:04,950 blocker at all. Wow. 740 00:41:06,610 --> 00:41:07,610 Wow. 741 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:09,030 Oh, my God. 742 00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:21,020 That's amazing. 743 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,920 Now, what I want to do is get all three of these guys into the same room. 744 00:41:27,780 --> 00:41:31,800 This isn't going to work at all because she would probably then start going 745 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,380 nuts. I'm telling you she won't do it because they've been reintroduced with 746 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:36,379 screen door. 747 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:38,220 We're going to lead her out here on a leash. 748 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:44,790 And if she gets a little frisky about it, we break it up. I was very skeptical 749 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:48,190 and very pessimistic about it. I just knew something horrible was going to 750 00:41:48,190 --> 00:41:50,390 happen, and chaos was about to ensue. 751 00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:52,270 How's it going in there, Gloria? 752 00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:55,970 Good. I have the harness on. Whenever you're ready, we're good to go. Good. 753 00:41:56,970 --> 00:41:58,010 Hi, Collie. 754 00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:06,510 Collie settles down, and she makes that Collie noise, that growl, 755 00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:08,950 right in this spot. 756 00:42:09,450 --> 00:42:13,230 Just a few short weeks ago, they were trying to kill each other. There was a 757 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:17,710 huge fight here, one of the worst I've seen between three cats, and I was 758 00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:18,710 nervous. 759 00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:20,530 She's looking at the boys, for sure. 760 00:42:21,450 --> 00:42:22,550 Now let me try something. 761 00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:24,890 Let's see what I can do here. 762 00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:27,010 What is that? 763 00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:32,490 Make that move. 764 00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:34,870 Make that move, girlfriend. 765 00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:37,770 There you go. 766 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,840 Good girl. 767 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,140 Good girl. 768 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,080 And then magically, Collie was back. 769 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,620 She stopped fixating on the boys and turned her attention to play. 770 00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:50,140 We got all three cats in the same space. 771 00:42:50,420 --> 00:42:56,540 One cat, two cats, three cats, no violence, no screen, no nothing. 772 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,840 I don't know what to say. 773 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,060 You don't have to say anything. 774 00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:04,230 Now, these guys still have a ways to go before Kali can be around Tokyo and 775 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:08,290 Godzilla without the vest and the leash. But based on what I've seen today, I 776 00:43:08,290 --> 00:43:11,670 think that Angela and Gloria can feel confident that they're on the right 777 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:14,750 and that in time these safeguards can be a thing of the past. 778 00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:16,930 Well, well, guys. 779 00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:21,330 Let's just put it out on the table. Are you going to keep Kali or not? 780 00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:24,070 Yes, you are going to keep her. 781 00:43:25,259 --> 00:43:27,180 Absolutely. Yes, there we go. 782 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,740 Oh, that's fantastic. 783 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,220 The homework that Jackson gave us to work on with the cats, it's really shown 784 00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:39,060 Kali that she can be a normal cat, and it's brought our family back together. 785 00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:41,560 I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. Oh, absolutely. 786 00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:43,260 It's going to be a happy ending, that's all. 787 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,480 Yeah. 65730

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