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Ozzie and Lily weren't best friends until one night.

Ozzie is trying to kill Lily.

It's terrifying.

I am trapped with two cats that want to kill each other.

Get back, get back, get back, get back.

I'm definitely terrified of being a crazy cat lady.

I want my mom to have a companion.

But I don't want one that's going to be attacking me.

I'm terrified of my cat.

I'm Jackson Galaxy.

I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day.

I've met cats with all kinds of problems.

But I've never met one I couldn't help.

Oh, hello.

In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, analyzing their

behaviors and retraining them and their guardians.

When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to

leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of

her. I'm their last hope.

Are you all right?

Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one.

I'm heading over right now to see Debra and her two cats, Ozzie and Lily. Now,

her two cats are so aggressive with one another, they and their behavior got

them kicked out of their old house and kicked into this teeny little studio

apartment where they're driving each other crazy. So I'm going to go over

right now and see if I can just untangle this mess.

I'm Debra. I'm Michael.

And we've been friends for 16 years. And up until just recently, we were

roommates.

I have two cats.

Ozzy and Lily. Ozzy is eight and a half. Lily is four and a half.

Two years ago, I decided to move back to California from New York, and I called

Michael up. When I found out Debra was moving back, I told her, please, yeah,

come stay with me. And so it was a perfect situation.

So in the beginning, everything was amazing.

The cast were incredibly happy to be there. They loved Michael.

They were best, best friends.

And then one night, Ozzy was attacking Lily.

flipping all over the apartment. I was terrified.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We had to keep Ozzie in my room and keep Lily in her room. Get back, get back,

get back, get back. Ozzie would yell at Michael's door wanting to get out and

he's got lungs.

It is 3 a .m. and you hear this.

That's Ozzie.

I never in a million years thought I was going to have to move out because of my

cat. And now I am trapped with two cats that want to kill each other. I have

gone from a three -bedroom house down to a studio.

It's a little bit insane right now. That first night, I had to sleep with Ozzy

in the bathtub to keep him calm.

I'm just going to try to let him out of the tub and try to get some sleep.

I'm definitely terrified of being a crazy cat lady.

I'm not going to let him out, baby.

I love my cats.

I need Jackson to come and help me out.

It's very important to get this solved for Deborah's sake.

She needs sleep.

She needs less stress in her life. I'm worried about her.

In my line of work, what I'm always trying to prevent is people being split

apart and being forced to move because of their cats.

So this case represents one of my worst fears come true. I got my work cut out

for me, both in human terms and in cat terms.

Hi.

Come on in. It's great to have you. Welcome.

Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming.

Okay. So tell me about your cats.

Ozzie and Lily used to be best friends until a few months ago.

Tell me about that.

I got home really late from work one night. Ozzie was insane going after

Okay. Look, I've had this happen with littermates before.

They're sitting in a window, and they see something going from over there, and

one goes, what's that?

And the other one goes, oh, what'd you just do? And they beat them up. And the

second that happens, I don't know who the hell you are anymore.

That sounds about right. It's called redirected aggression.

With redirected aggression, if a traumatized cat can't lash out at

making them crazy in the first place, they're going to turn that aggression

an innocent bystander. In this case, Lily.

You have gone...

From living in a three -bedroom house, we are... Your roommate's name is...

Michael. Michael. In a studio apartment with the cats who are still, I assume,

fighting? Yeah. Lulu's developing bald spots. She's either chewing or over

-grooming, so it breaks my heart. Okay. Now...

Another challenge that I feel right now is that I don't feel that Michael is

part of the conversation.

Yeah. Is it okay if I talk to him? I would love that, and I kind of expected

that. So he's going to come over. Oh, great. He can meet you. Fantastic.

It's going to really help to see that part that's missing, the partner in the

trench.

That's him.

Cool. Let's meet Mike. You want to hear a story from a witness to say, this is

what concerned me.

As her friend of 16 years, I think I know the whole story. What I want to

is your end of that story.

The bulk of the breaking point for me was I was worried about Deborah.

She was not getting any sleep. She was stressed out of her mind.

There's also a third roommate.

And so I think more of the stress and the friction was really... Was being

that way? Yeah. Okay. I got it. I got it. The other thing that I have to ask

in this process is I need your participation and your buy -in when it

to... the exercises I'll be giving. Sure. Okay, great. Absolutely.

Now, if I can make the cats get along better in here, are you open to having

Debra, Ozzy, and Lily back over at your house as roommates?

Yeah. Absolutely.

It was really important for me to get something out of Michael that says,

I'm willing to participate in the exercises because the healing's not

so these guys can move back in with Michael if they want to. Now, I want to

the territory.

Where do we start? We're going to start with Lily.

Lily being in the closet. She is in the closet.

When I went to meet Lily, she's hiding in the closet. I turn and I see Ozzy,

he is right up against the screen door.

Lily is so terrified. She has got herself caved in this tight space.

Hello, my baby.

And that is the problem.

This is where Ozzy lives now. I had this screen installed.

You did this?

I did this in order to keep these two apart. Oh, I see. I see.

This is an idiot.

Bitty space here. Poor Ozzy. I mean, that is not a space big enough for a

Plus, he lives in there. I need to see the two of them together. I need to see

what happens. I gotta see whether when Ozzy sees Lily, he just goes right for

her, or can he be distracted by anything?

Closet.

She's got a stressed out face.

Okay.

The biggest problem in this small space is that there's not many places for Lily

to go to hide. So she made a bad choice, which was to try to make herself as

small as possible in this chair.

That is not going to end well.

She just started to make some noise.

And she hissed.

All right.

don't have to pick him up once lily ran back into the closet it was game over i

had seen enough to know how bad things were it just is an endless vicious cycle

of fear and loathing and panic i'm so sorry are you okay and i'm here to end

that cycle let's get to it huh first we need to bring both of these cats to

their challenge line okay it's the uncaving of lily That's her challenge

Okay. Right there, you need to provide her with this beautiful breadcrumb

Yes. Salmon trail. This is like cat geometry.

We have the cave there.

Okay. And the promised land right there. Because right over there is where Ozzy

lives. I want Lily to take that center of the room, seeing equally I can escape

this way, and I can see Ozzy through that door, and I choose to be right

There's another challenge line with Lily that I think is really important, and

that's the environmental challenge line. Just start looking at things in terms

of the cat superhighway, right? And on a cat superhighway, there are no dead

ends. We can catify the studio and give them more levels to get around, build

that superhighway to keep them away from each other. I can make this work.

Every time they eat, I'm going to have you establish that challenge line on

either side of the door. Start far away, with a curtain, slowly, as these guys

eat and walk away.

Every meal, just a little bit more, a little bit more.

We've got to get him out of there.

Yeah. He can't live in there.

So now we're going to deal with the concept of sight -swapping.

That means on different days, she goes in there, he comes out here. Okay? No

biggie. We're going to fight really hard for this.

If we decide together that...

For the sake of everyone's health and well -being and sanity, this is not a

thing. Then we have to start thinking about where one of these guys can live

that's not here. Just because two cats got along at one point does not mean

they're ever going to get together again. For the greater good, we may have

rehome one of these cats.

You've got challenges ahead of you. It's not just about challenging them, it's

about challenging you too. For me, getting rid of one of these cats is not

option, so...

All of this homework that Jackson's giving me, it's just going to have to

We're going in for my second visit with Deborah, Ozzie, and Lily. Now, the

situation had gotten so bad that it forced Deborah to move out of her old

where she had been living with her friend Michael, into a tiny studio

The last time I was here, Ozzie wanted to kill Lily.

My second days are either really good or really bad. It depends on the person

and their commitment to the process.

I'm just hoping for a good day.

Hi. How are you doing? Good, how are you? I'm great. Good to see you. Good to

see you. Come on in.

You're all smiley. Well, Lily stopped over grooming and her fur is coming

Yeah, that's pretty cool. Her stopping that grooming that fast is miraculous.

Lily stopped over grooming, just like that, meaning that Lily had found a

solution for her anxiety.

She self -sued in order to make all of this horrible feeling go away, and now

she didn't have the feeling anymore, so she didn't have to do the action.

So that's great, but Ozzy is still wound up, and so he's yelling

a lot still and charging.

The cat version of the squeaky wheel.

He is a very squeaky wheel. He's very squeaky. Well, it's great that Lily's

improving. It's not going to last long if we can't get Ozzie under control. So

that has to be a priority.

Now, we've got some video footage here of the homework that you were doing. So

if you don't mind, I'm going to come over here.

Okay. And let's go over it together.

So Ozzie's kind of at the screen.

Hey, girl, we're just going to have you eat right here. I got to see salmon

marks the spot. This cat is now coming out, eating treats.

obliterating challenge lines, and just roaming the house.

Feeding them at 5 '6 today, Lily would look at Ozzie. We also saw the feeding

ritual itself, which was great, because food source is probably the most

important thing in a cat's life. We're going to find the balance of their

relationship around food.

It's simultaneous playtime.

That's right.

There we go. Now that's what I want to see.

I did see Debra playing with both cats with her friend Michael's help. And

everything that I saw in that video was great except for one thing.

Ozzie is still in the kitchen trying to play from his tree perch, and this ain't

going to cut it. All right. The thing is, you can't play with him in there.

That's why you're having the problems that you're having. You're never going

poop him out in there. One of the most important things about a cat like Ozzie

is he's high energy.

If you don't choose where to channel it, it's going to wind up on Lily. So let's

start taking a look around, huh? Okay.

So I put in some shelves for Lily.

Hey, Matt, this is the superhighway. It's the superhighway. You totally have

concept down pat.

But she doesn't really want to use that side yet because of you -know -who.

Oh, right.

Debra put shelves in the closet after the last time I was here, and that's

great. But I want to see Lily going up those shelves, around, and down, right

front of the kitchen, a .k .a. Ozzy's lair. Now that would be huge. This is

really important because she's got to know.

that when he charges, there's different exits to the freeway here in order to

escape Squeaky McWheel.

So what I'm going to do is tempt her.

What is that? What?

Okay, so immediately we're over here.

See, now it's getting a little tentative.

What is that?

What?

Can I get you? Oh.

Hello, challenge line.

And goodbye, challenge line.

My God, you're so good.

You're so good.

Where's it going?

There we go.

We got this step done.

Now, here's the challenge.

Get her back and up.

One of the greatest parts of today.

was seeing Lily go bang, bang, bang, get over to the other side and down again.

I'm telling you, my mouth fell open. Lily was feeling secure and full of self

-esteem, so I'm really happy. So this level of our equation is so set right

So I want to get Ozzy out here, and we're going to be relaxed about this.

Let's make it happen. I am a little bit nervous now that I've boosted Lily up a

little bit because I don't want to push her too far so that she backslides.

Come on, man.

Sit. Sit.

See, now, the thing is, he's going to do this.

He's just never out here. Do you know what I mean?

Since the last time I was here, Debra hasn't let Ozzy out, so for him to want

explore the room is natural, but I've got to keep his attention on the toy,

on Lily.

All right. What about this?

What is this?

What is this?

Oh, what is that?

It is hard to get his attention.

The first time I was here and let Ozzy out, Ozzy wanted to kill Lily.

Oh, my God!

I'm just hoping he doesn't attack her again today. I mean, we've made so much

great progress, we can't afford a setback. I don't think that Lily can

it, and I know Deborah can. He's kind of scattered. He's there one minute, and

then just kind of not there the next.

He wants to know everything in this room.

Mm -hmm.

Uh -oh.

There you are.

Now we got him going. There we go. There you go.

That's the level of energy I want. That's amazing.

He is 100 % with me. This happening however many times a day that you can do

will make it so that he doesn't charge that door.

Okay. Right?

Let me start giving you the homework.

Yeah. Sight swapping every day. It's more important getting Ozzy to start

actually playing out here, getting his energy out. The cats have to own

different parts of the world in order for all of us to own it at the end of

day. When Ozzy starts meowing like crazy, you can't reinforce that squeaky

wheel. Wait for a 10 count of silence and reward that. Also, you're going to

start feeding in full view. Full view, no curtain, no sight blocker. Exactly. I

want to see this feeding ritual work.

Raise the curtain, move it up. When we get to that place, Let's use something

else. You're going to put this in the door, cut a piece right out of here, and

then you're going to use this dish.

One is going to be on one side, one's going to be on the other. When I come

here next time, I want to see them eating out of that dish just with the

of a little bit of poster board, and then I think we're home free.

I'll talk to you soon. Tell me if you have any problems, all right? Will do.

Thank you.

Lily's confidence is building, but... She is not going to be able to move

forward if I can't get Ozzie to calm down.

Jackson has given me a ton of great tools today. I am just really hoping and

praying that it works because I really, really want Ozzie and Lola to get back

together again.

And now it's time for a kitty bit.

Cat bites are more likely than dog bites to become infected.

True or false? The answer after the break.

True or false? Cat bites are more likely than dog bites to become infected.

And the answer is true.

Of course, all animal bites are potentially dangerous and require

attention, but cat saliva will actually break down tissue, which is why cat

bites are especially likely to become infected.

I'm going in for my final visit with Debra and her cats, Ozzie and Lily. So

last time I was here, both Ozzie and Lily had made gains, but it was Debra

was holding them back from not sight swapping.

I watched the homework video and Debra's finally doing some sight swapping,

which means putting each cat in the other space so they can get used to each

other's scent.

Awesome.

Now we have Ozzie out in the main room playing. Good girl, Lil.

While Lily's in the kitchen chilling. When you get 10 seconds of quiet, we'll

set down the food dishes simultaneously.

Wow.

Kind of miraculous, right? Also, Debra's friend and old roommate, Michael,

continues to come over to help. Now, this is all great stuff, but I still

haven't seen the long dish feeding exercise.

This time, that's my goal. I want to see these guys share this teeny little

studio apartment.

Hi, how are you? I'm great.

How are you doing?

Good, thank you.

All right, well, it's good to see you. Good to see you. It's good to see her.

Yes. Look at that, my little girl.

Hi.

The first time I was here, Lily was up in a closet. You couldn't pry her down.

But today she's up, tail held high.

Fantastic.

I'm sorry. Was I ignoring you, Ozzy? Hi.

He looks pretty chill, too.

He's doing better. He's not yelling at the screen door.

What? What?

And so the only thing left is really the feeding.

Yeah. It seemed a little overly ambitious to try to feed them through

I mean, you've got to try everything and see where they're at.

It was time to do the long dish feeding exercise.

We put the dish down with the sight blocker on top of it.

Everything's set up, and the scary part for Debra, and a little bit for me, is

that the screen door is open through this entire process.

Okay. Good boy.

All right, we have Ozzy eating.

Give me a little update. What you got going on over there? She's about to walk

over my lap with any luck. She's very interested.

Hi, Fizz. Hi.

Good boy.

Okay. Makes it happen fairly fast.

Yeah.

Good boy.

Oh, she just turned and walked away. She's torn. She wants it really bad.

We were so close, but Lily smelled Ozzy and decided at the last moment to run

away. So I wanted Debra to lure her back using Salmon Mark's The Spot, and

that's using those little trails of treats to lure her back to the dish.

There we go.

Keep it moving.

Just be with me.

Ozzy's back here just chilling. His goal is not to get at the girl. Right there,

yeah, there we go, there we go. Keep it moving.

Here she comes. She's all the way.

A little bit of food.

A little bit of food.

Pretty cool.

Okay, now, Ozzie.

Lily. Now, it's way too soon to pick up the sight blocker, but just the fact

that these two cats can eat so close together with just a piece of cardboard

separating them tells me that I can feel confident. The groundwork has been laid

for these two cats.

to be friends once again honestly unbelievable congratulations thank you

watching lily walk up and approach that open door it was another one of those

moments where i could see the progress that she's made

Hey, man. How are you? Good to see you again, man. Good to see you, too. How

have you been? I've honestly been pretty blown away by what I've seen.

It's night and day.

Debra's different. You take a look at her then, and now you see a woman that

just gotten more sleep.

Seeing Debra so much less stressed makes me so happy and so relieved. It was

really great to see.

From what you've seen here, you would be okay if they moved back in.

Yeah. How are you feeling about that?

Amazing.

I feel like we're on the safe side of things now. And I can finally relax and

breathe in a very real way.

This has been life changing.

You'll do.

This is a happy ending. And thank you does not even cover it.

I want my mom to have a companion, but I don't want one that's going to be

attacking her.

I'm terrified of my cat.

I'm on my way to go see Callie. Now, Callie has survived World War II. She's

seen a lot in life.

Now, she's seen a lot in the shape of a four -legged hellion named Allie. And

Allie is just beating on her all the time. We can't have that. I mean, as she

gets older, we've got lots of health problems that can come along with being

scratched and bit. So I'm going over right now to see what I can do to help

I'm Pam.

And I'm Callie. And I'm 95 years old.

And Pam is my oldest daughter.

I don't think until the last few years Mom was an animal person. She's more of

an animal tolerator.

Never expected to have a cat, but I like the one I've got.

This little bitty kitten was crying pitifully in the backyard. I brought it

the house. I bottle fed her. I expected that I would keep her until

I could have her neutered.

I just opened the door and said goodbye, and she didn't go anyplace. She just

stayed.

Allie's about three years old now.

She's a wild cat.

She's a dangerous cat.

My mom's got very thin, thin skin, and so sometimes when the cat scratches her,

like the skin comes off.

Ow!

And her doctor actually said to get rid of that cat.

My husband died 12 years ago, and I do live alone, and I am attached to Allie.

It's nice just to have some companionship in the house.

I am not giving Allie up.

See? No love in those eyes.

I want my mom to have a companion, but I don't want one that's going to be

attacking her.

I lived through World War II, but I'm terrified of my cat.

Callie got a cat because she wants a companion. Of course, there's nothing

with that, but we have to make sure that she's a safe companion.

Jackson? Yes. I'm Pam.

Hello, Pam.

Very nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well.

At 95 years old, Callie doesn't need someone who's going to attack her.

needs somebody who's just going to sit and be with her.

Hi, how are you, Mr. Jack? I'm great, Mr. Kelly.

Good to meet you.

Hope I can help.

So tell me, why am I here today?

Well, I have a cat, and she bites and scratches.

She's a feral cat, and we can't pick her up at all. I don't even remember how we

managed to get her to the vet to get her spayed.

But since then, she hasn't been back to the vet. She hasn't had shots.

Wow.

Now, see, now that.

is dangerous for you.

And then Allie goes outside where there are other cats, and she has been in cat

bites. This cat hasn't been to the vet since she was a kitten, and that means

she could be carrying dangerous diseases, and every time she attacks Pam

Callie, she could be giving them infections.

Callie just can't afford the infection from a cat bite at her age.

What I really want to do is take a look around the whole territory here. So if

you guys don't mind walking me around here, that'd be great. All right. My

stop was the dining room, and that just seems to be the hub of all bad behavior.

She'll be sitting under the table, and if we walk by on the way to the kitchen

or to go outside, she'll just rush right out. I have proof, if you'd like to see

it, from my most recent attack, which happened right over there.

Oh, wow.

And I'm seeing this claw.

And that is deep. Wow.

Pam showed me that ankle wound, and that was bad. I mean, that was bites. That

was scratches.

Not a good thing. She does come and go as she pleases, sort of, in the

In the backyard. Can you show me the backyard?

Yeah.

Okay. This is fantastic.

This is Cat Wonderland over here. I might have some really fun ideas to work

with this, because I would like to see her not exposed to disease, and I'd

really like to make sure that you and the cat are safe. So let's head back

inside. You can show me some more, okay?

So I've seen this whole house, and I've yet to see Allie. So that's our next

stop. Hi, baby.

I see you.

Hello, love.

Suddenly, Allie goes across the room and into the closet, and she's assuming

some of that quote -unquote feral behavior. Her ears are flat. Her eyes

dilated. She's breathing shallow. She's hugging the walls. I mean, this is

exactly what she would do if she was threatened out in the wild.

I've got my work cut out for me in every aspect on this one.

Here's the deal, pumpkin. I just want you out of here.

I know.

When Jackson got really close to her, I was thinking, oh, my God, what is she

going to do? I was horrified at the thought of what might happen.

Look at me.

Come on.

I know, I know, you're all worked up, but you've got to get out of here.

Pumpkin, I just want you out of here.

Ow! Putting your hand near a semi -feral cat in this state is like putting your

hand in a garbage disposal.

I was terrified.

I need you out.

I don't want you in the corner.

I've got to get her out of this closet. I mean, as long as she's in there, she's

going to live in this constant state of fear, and that's just going to set us

back.

I've dealt with a lot of feral cats over the years, and it's just patience.

So what I wound up doing was just backing away. I just wanted Allie to

you can leave this closet whenever you want.

Good girl.

For a basically feral cat to come out of hiding versus staying hidden, show

signs of socialization. I mean, she basically wants to interact with humans.

that is something I can work with.

It's been a long day.

Thank you for your patience.

Now, we can't get her to the vet, and what I want to do is I want to have the

vet come to you.

What? You can find vets that come to you? Of course. There's house call vets

everywhere. So we can have somebody come here.

and give her that tip -to -tail checkup. And what I'd like to get on her is

nylon tips that go on the claws.

I always recommend soft paws on claws as a humane alternative to declawing. And

my main priority right now is to keep Callie safe, so I really would feel much

safer if I got these soft paws on Allie ASAP so that Callie can't get scratched.

I'd like you to take these flags, and I'd like you to put them wherever this

misbehaved. We have to know where and why Allie attacks, but at the same time,

we've got to encourage good behavior by playing with Allie. The three -year -old

cat has very specific exercise needs. If you're playing with her every day, she

will love you.

Finally, keep Allie indoors as much as possible.

Allie doesn't have her shots, and she's out here getting into fights with other

cats. Now, the best way to keep her safe and the best way to keep Callie safe is

to keep her inside.

You guys got a lot of work ahead of you, and I'm here for you. Just call me if

you need me, all right?

I certainly hope that the things that Jackson left will make a difference.

I'm going to take off.

I do want a nice cat.

It was wonderful to meet you.

Take care. After three years, I'm hoping this works. This is the last resort we

have for this cat.

I'm heading in right now for my second visit with Pam, Callie, and Callie's

Allie. Allie is a three -year -old tortoise who was born feral and has been

relentlessly attacking Pam and her 95 -year -old mother, Callie.

Hi, Jackson. Good to see you again. I'm good. The last time I was here, Allie

beat me up pretty good.

Ow.

I'm really hoping that I go into that house and Callie hasn't been scratched a

bit. I'm going in, kind of holding my breath and hoping for the best. How are

things going?

I think things are going really well.

Now, you tell me, what do you think happened that made that happen? We put

where Allie attacks us, and we've stayed away from that particular area.

And now Allie hasn't been attacking as much as she had.

That is great. And maybe she decided from all the playing that we were doing

that we weren't so bad after all.

I'm really happy that things are going so well with Allie. And as Pam is

me in on all this good stuff, I look down and I see a bandage on Callie's

And I think to myself, man, this cannot be good.

When did that happen?

About a week ago. She bounced and bit me.

I have a picture if you'd like to see it. My sister sent it to me the next

morning. Oh, my God. One huge bombshell that was dropped on me today was that

Callie got bit.

Pam showed me a picture of the damage, and it took my breath away. It was

bad. All right, so I'm a little concerned about that. The damage put on

was not okay with me.

This cat doesn't really stand a chance outside this house, but Callie doesn't

stand a chance if she keeps getting attacked by Allie.

I have more information that we can go over in the form of this homework.

I got to see Callie playing with Allie, which was amazing. I got to see Pam

playing with Allie, also cool.

Oh, here we go.

Oh, that's the vet.

This is a heavy -duty sedative we're going to give to our friend here.

Heavy -duty sedative.

I got to see the vet putting on the nylon tips and also giving Allie her

inoculations, which are key components, but...

Pam and Callie also told me that they're making every effort to keep Allie

indoors. And this, behaviorally, is so important.

Because if Allie is out here, basically fending for herself, picking fights,

she'll be acting like the feral she was born as, as opposed to the house cat we

want her to be.

So, now, I see flags staring at me right now, so let's head that way.

I asked them to put up flags where Allie attacks so I could just see where the

bad behavior is happening. Because the flags represent a pattern. Now they can

look at Allie and say she's not a collection of random acts.

I know that this area here, Pam, is where you tend to get your legs beat up,

right? Exactly. That's where she'll leap out from if someone is walking by.

And, of course, that is now we can identify as classic play aggression.

If Allie's really wound up.

And she hasn't played that day.

When legs go by that dining room table, what are they? They're prey and she's

going to attack them.

There you are, baby.

As we wrapped up the tour, boom, out comes Allie, who I hadn't seen all day.

Now, the last time I was here, I saw the damage that Allie inflicted on Pam's

leg when she tried to interact with her. But really, Allie is Callie's pet, and

she's going to be spending the most time with the cat. So it was time to see

Callie interacting with Allie and to see if we could form some kind of a

connection, because we can't. There's no hope for this cat at all.

What I want to see, Callie, is I just want to see how her bond is with you,

vocally. Normal talk that you would usually have with her.

Okay.

Hey, little Allie.

Are you my pretty little girl?

Hmm?

Pretty, pretty Allie.

Oh, there you go. My little girl.

And just when I thought it couldn't get any better, Callie started petting

Allie. That is a massive, massive moment.

Pretty, pretty Allie.

So we're all sitting there, and I look over to Callie, and she's got this kind

of wistful look in her eyes. And I'm thinking to myself, man, this woman's 95

years old, and she deserves a full relationship with her cat.

I'm going to put in every ounce of effort that I've got to make sure these

stay together.

I've never seen that before.

You've never seen this before?

No. Do you think there's a possibility that this is a meaningful breakthrough

for Allie? Oh, I know that that's what this is.

Oh, yeah. They did their homework.

They're playing with her. They're spending time with her. And they put on

nylon tips and avoided all of Allie's attack areas.

And now she's a much calmer cat.

Let's start talking about homework.

I want you to really draw her out to the middle of the room. All play here.

Really avoid around the table. All those flags around the room demonstrated one

thing. We have a battlefield around the dining room table. That dining room

table can't be made in play anymore.

Now, there's a few other things. When people walk in here, give Allie a treat.

And so basically when people walk in, boom, there's food on the floor.

I want people to come into this home and give her treats. And my hope is that

she won't retreat to corners, to curtains, to closets at that point. Now,

finally, this is the key to some success that we're going to have.

So if you guys come with me.

I'd like to show you something, okay? Okay. I've got to make Allie an indoor

cat. It's what's safer for her, and in the long run, it's safer for Callie as

well. If we have this over this fencing, she can't get out and nobody else can

get in, and she's safe.

I'm a little skeptical about cutting off her access to the outside. If she's not

happy on just the catio, we may let her out again. We'll just have to wait and

see how she responds.

You know, we'll take care of fencing this in. You take care of making a world

for her in here that she wants to be in, okay? I got high expectations.

When I come back here the next time around, I'm expecting Allie to be an

cat. At the end of the day, this is about Callie's safety. At her age, she

cannot afford to have another attack on her.

I'm heading in for my final visit now with Callie, her cat, Allie, and her

daughter, Pam.

Nice to see you, Jackson.

Good to see you. And the last time I was here, they were telling me that Allie

was a brand -new cat. Well, that's great, but Allie still bit Callie, and

a pretty nasty -looking wound. It's just something I don't want to ever see

again on a 95 -year -old woman, so I'm hoping no wounds, all love.

I can dream big, right?

Well, give me some good news. Have you gotten any more scratches or bites since

the last time I was here?

No. Yay.

Yay.

Oh, God.

Okay, good.

We continue to see steady progress with Allie. We spend a lot of time playing

with her.

We've been trying to make a point that when anybody new comes in the house,

offer her a treat.

Hi, Allie.

So far, Allie seems to be open to playing with new people when they come

house. That would have been unheard of a couple of weeks ago.

If I call her, she comes. That cat will trot right over to you.

Allie, come here.

Well, that's got to feel pretty good for you.

She likes me now.

She'll come and sit on the arm of my chair or maybe get in my lap and sit,

is nice.

I'm really pleased with Allie's progress, but there's one unfinished

business, and that is the last time I was here. Allie was still going outside

whenever she wanted to, and that's not safe for her. So I had somebody screen

Callie's patio, make it into a catio, and now I'm just hoping that Allie's an

indoor cat.

So tell me, is she an indoor cat or is she an outdoor cat at this point?

She's an indoor cat now.

Do you have any idea how relieved I am?

Cats don't belong outside, in my opinion, so I just wanted this cat to be

I didn't want Callie to have to worry about her either. So we go out onto the

catio, and all I'm hoping for is that Allie isn't going to exhibit those feral

qualities she did the last time I was here. So I don't want to see any

attacking, no running away, and no hugging of the walls.

Man, I got my fingers crossed on this one.

I'm so impressed by this.

This is exactly what I pictured.

Where's she?

She's under the chaise lounge.

Hello, girlfriend.

She looks so sweet.

Not at all.

That level of crazy fear that I saw the first day that I was here. I think the

catio is definitely a good addition. It's really brought out a whole new side

her. And she just interacts with us a lot more, like she enjoys being in the

same house with us.

has feelings for me, I know, and she wants to be wherever I am.

You've fought hard for this relationship, and I feel like you're

back right now. Now that Allie is an indoor cat, she's not acting wild, she's

not picking fights with the neighborhood cats, she feels safe.

And a secure cat is one that won't lash out at Callie or Pam. When I first got

here... She was most definitely a threat, and she proved that over and

again, doing much damage to you. I want to make sure that I can walk away now,

and you can tell me, Pam, that you feel safe walking away tonight, that

Allie and Callie are fine together.

I feel completely confident that they're safe together.

I feel safe.

I don't have a question in my mind.

The fact that I can walk away today, not just thinking, okay, there's not a

threat, but there's a solid relationship, that this woman and this

companions for each other. One is a guardian and one is a companion.

It doesn't get any better than that.

I think we're a success story.

Yeah, I'll second that. I am happy that Jackson came here. We are truly

thankful for the improvement.

Allie, and things are better.

Okay. It was absolutely wonderful to meet you. Oh, thank you. And you as

You too, Jackson. You as well, of course. All right, guys. Take care.

Take care.