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Achilles is extremely aggressive.
He likes to attack. I feel like he's a demon.
And there's nothing that's going to stop him.
Maybe I should pack my bags and get my own place.
We have two cats, Chompy and Bitten, and they're both a little crazy.
I've never seen them get along. Ever.
It was like a creepy stalker.
My main concern is about our daughter's safety.
You know, the cats, they're just too crazy.
If she got clawed by one of the cats, they'd be done.
I'm Jackson Galaxy.
I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day.
I've met cats with all kinds of problems.
But I've never met one I couldn't help.
Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one,
analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians.
When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to
leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of
her. I'm their last hope.
Are you all right?
Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans only have one.
Whoa!
Ow!
I'm going over to Amy's house right now. Her cat Achilles is so aggressive.
that her boyfriend Mike's got one foot out the door right now, and I don't
him. I've seen that cat in action.
I'm going over right now to see if I can restore some peace to this house.
I'm Amy. I'm a pediatric nurse. I'm Mike. I work at UCLA.
We've been dating for a little over a year. And we've lived together for eight
months. Achilles' mom had kittens, and my best friend wanted to get the kittens
away, and she gave me Achilles.
He'd always been scratching me, and I thought that's what cats do, but he
Probably six months old when he just attacked.
He is extremely aggressive.
He likes to attack unprovoked.
I feel like he's a demon.
I feel like there's something in there.
It's okay.
You need to go in the bedroom.
I feel like I should get rid of the cat, but I can't.
Achilles and I have been through boyfriends. We've been through sick
He's been there for me. I can't give up on him. It just frustrates me, and I
start thinking, well, why do we have a cat that's just going to torture us?
I have lost a lot of boyfriends over Achilles.
Mike is the first guy I've ever felt this way about. I don't want to lose
another boyfriend because of Achilles.
Are you okay?
No, we're not okay?
I'll pack my bags and I'll get ready to leave. Amy will be really upset.
I'll be really upset. I said things like, you're not helping us. This is
we're doing wrong. We need to change these behaviors.
And as I was pleading with Mike over tears, the cat attacked me.
Mid -fighting for him.
And I just lost it.
Maybe it's better if I just didn't live here.
I don't want Mike to move out.
I want to fix Kelly's because Jackson is our only hope so we can save our
relationship.
Hey. Hey, Mike.
What's up, Mike? Amy. Hey, Amy. How are you guys doing? Thanks for coming.
Of course. Of course.
So tell me, why am I here?
We've been having a lot of problems with the killings. First it was biting the
calves, and then it has turned into unprovoked attacks.
What does attack look like to you guys? He'll be purring, and all of a sudden
his eyes go black, his ears go flat. He's purring, and he wants to attack.
So he can just be sitting there, and the next second he's somebody else.
I've been asleep in the bed, and I've been bitten in the back of the head
before. Turned around, he's ready to go again.
And when he bites you, does he break skin?
Yes. He does?
Yes. Okay.
I know he looks like a cat, but I really don't think he's a cat. What is he?
Maybe a dragon?
I don't know. Do you freaking tell people this?
If you're calling your cat, who you love, a dragon or a demon, they pick up
that. They soak up that energy. At some point, they're going to spit that back
out. He doesn't let Mike sleep at night when I'm not here. Mike's meeting. Does
he work nights?
I work night shifts, though. So you guys have a totally opposite schedule. Oh,
yeah. So he's vulnerable all the time, and it makes me scared for him.
Have you been attacked in your sleep?
I haven't been attacked in my sleep because I use the blanket under the door
he can't claw the carpet, and then I shut the door.
He's out.
When we are able to actually sleep in the bed together, which is two to three
nights a week, I leave the door open, and every time Achilles gets in the bed,
Mike sits up.
Why do you still have Achilles?
Before Achilles came into my life, I was not the nicest person, just kind of
angry. And I felt like the minute I got him, he took it from me.
Amy shared this piece of information with me, which was so deep. She said
at one point she was a very angry person. And she thought that Achilles
that energy. So I know now that part of my work with her is helping that energy
pass through him.
I think Amy has allowed Achilles to do things far beyond what anyone should
allow their pet to do.
It's gotten to the point where I've been, like, bags packed, ready to go.
Okay. We've got a lot of work in front of us.
As I see it, there are really high stakes involved with Achilles because
though Mike is being a little secretive about his desire to fix it or leave, I
know he's frustrated. I know he's getting barely any sleep. I know that
tries to project a future with Amy, he doesn't see it with Achilles. That's a
big hurdle that we're going to try to get over. Hello, cat.
He looks awfully nice right now. Right? I just want you to sit down and just be
with him for a minute, the way you would normally do it, just the way you would
normally be with him. Hey, buddy.
This is when he sleeps. It's during the day. It's at night that he's a little
more crazy and up and physically a little more demanding.
So, time to bring Mike over and see the same thing.
I mean, see if I pet him, he'll... I just want to see what you would normally
do.
Yeah, I don't... I can't always tell if he likes that, because he'll come over,
see, and he won't like that.
That's tricky now with his head turned the way it is. You can run this side.
I mean, I normally would come, but he's going to turn his head. See, I move
quickly. Yeah, you do.
This we can't have.
This looks like prey. It looks like a rabbit running away.
Mike has no confidence whatsoever, and that was really important for me to see.
He does that thing.
What thing was that? He just opens his mouth and does a little thing.
See, that's your cue. I need to see this behavior because that information is so
key to moving forward and getting these guys on the right track. So I'm going to
come back tomorrow night when he's known to act up. But for right now, we can't
waste any time. I'm going to get Amy and Mike started on their homework.
All right. Well, he needs to get to a vet. And my guess is he needs to be on
some kind of med because he doesn't have to be this unpredictable source of
blood and pain.
Listen, I'm not a doctor, but let's be plain.
When a cat goes blank like this, you're sitting with them one second, and the
next second they are all over you trying to claw your eyes out. That means that
there is no stimulation from the environment. There is nothing coming
environment to cause it. It's probably his brain doing it.
Mike, you get to build a new relationship with him.
You are the player. You are the feeder. You are the bringer of all good things,
okay? On the downside of things, you're also going to be sleeping with the door
open. No more towel under the door. You are going to let him come into the room
and be with you at night.
Now what? Tell me what you guys are thinking right now.
I'm scared for him.
That is so helpful. Thank you so much.
Why not act as if this is a trustworthy cat? Listen to his body, watch his
responses, and Achilles will respond accordingly over a certain amount of
There's no point in you going like this all the time. Amy, with you, I'd like
you to come up with a list of what we call affirmations.
Positive, visualized mantras.
Amy has been holding on to the shame and the guilt about Achilles, giving him
this negative, bad energy that she had in herself.
So I gave her an exercise where I want her to start saying affirmations because
it's time for no one to have that energy anymore. The fact that you told me
right off the bat that you've lost relationships over Achilles, Mike, I
keep you here.
I really do.
I think the hardest part for me is believe in my head that nothing bad is
to happen.
Achilles has definitely not made this place. I feel like home ever since I
in. It's been his place, not mine.
Thank you so much.
Amy just keeps presenting Achilles to the world unmedicated and hoping that he
doesn't shred people.
And he keeps shredding people.
In a way, this is kind of the worst case scenario because I've got a cat who
seems to be neurologically damaged. I've got a guy who's got one foot out the
door. I don't expect great things. I've got to be honest with you.
Hey, man. How you doing? Hey, Mike.
What's going down, man?
The last time I was here, we didn't quite get the behavior from Achilles
Mike and Amy said that they see on a regular basis that has almost sent Mike
packing. I don't really want to get bit.
I've heard that Achilles tends to activate a little bit more at night when
goes to work, and Mike is stuck alone with him to deal with it. So I'm coming
back today to see if there's anything that I can see that I didn't see
yesterday.
Ow. Come on, bud. Ow.
Come on now.
Let's get you out of there. I don't want you all cornered up in there.
Ow. All right, bud.
Damn. So this is a different cat than I saw the first time I was here. Yeah,
he's full on crazy mode now.
Achilles and Amy both sleep during the day right now. She's wide awake at work
at the hospital, and Achilles is wide awake here at their home, ready to do
damage on either Mike or, I think, me.
Dude.
But, dude, that one hurt.
Bite, scratches, both hands kind of shaking a little bit because that
last bite really hurt. I mean, he went kind of to the bone a little bit. I
want to tell Mike, actually, because I'm going to freak him out too much.
I know. You're growling, and at the same time, I know I can give you food out of
my damn hand.
What's up with that?
That was pretty severe.
Not what I was expecting at all.
I'm going to give it the rest of tonight. I'm going to see these guys in
more days and hopefully have a better plan.
I'm going in for my second visit with Mike and Amy and their cat, Achilles.
The last time I was here, I saw what Amy has been seeing for just about six
years, a highly unpredictable, aggressive cat.
Hello. Hi.
How are you? Good. How are you? I'm great. Come on in.
Hey, tell me what you've accomplished since the last time I was here.
The first thing we did was we went to the vet and we started him on
Good, good. She went to the vet. She got him put on psych meds, which is great
because it was so important for him to get on those meds in the first place to
give him time to stabilize and help improve his behavior.
I'm able to sleep through the night because I've been leaving the door open.
Let's stop right there.
So you've been leaving the door open, which I give you all the props in the
world for. That's amazing.
He's telling me that he opens the door every night, allowed Achilles in, and
what happened? Nothing.
Space sharing is so important to cats because cats have territorial needs.
And the bed has become this place where space sharing is starting to take hold.
Big time change.
I am playing the role of a good cop. I bring out the toys and I feed them. But
Amy also pulls out the toys and she feeds them. You don't get to look like a
good cop when there's two good cops, right? In the very beginning.
I wasn't sure. I didn't know if Mike had played with him or fed him, and he
looked like he needed to play. You have to trust Mike to do that loving part.
If that's us having a whiteboard here saying, check, check, check, that might
sound silly to you, but I think we should do it.
I felt the tension between them immediately.
Mike is trying to be the good cop, and Amy's not letting it happen. So now
got good cop and better cop.
That's not going to work. Right. I'm just...
That's so fearful that if he does one of his dragon Jekyll Hyde things that he's
really going to hurt Mike.
Is it the hurt that you're worried about or the aftermath?
The aftermath.
Which is what? That he just leaves and can't live with it because it's not
Amy is still that person that I met during my first visit. I mean, she is
absolutely scared that Mike is going to leave her at any time. So that's an
obstacle we're going to have to work on. Let's take a look at your video
homework.
Mike was doing things, Phil, completely wrong and full of fear about being
tagged by Achilles.
Oh, what?
How is it that he's just standing there? He didn't make that happen at all. It's
not the environment. It's not the territory. It's nothing. The catch is
him. It is really concerning and leads me to think that it's neurological.
So I want them to keep going on the meds that they just started on so we can see
if there's any progress with his unpredictability.
Want to play?
He's going to stare at me? I really have to show Mike how to approach Achilles.
I knew from my experience with Achilles that he's so food motivated that he
could want to beat me up and he could strike out at me and then I could
food and he'd be like, oh, what you got?
It gave me an idea. I know that I've got something to keep Mike busy for the
next couple of weeks.
Here, Grump.
Here you go.
Let me show you.
Because this was me and him all night, right? Where he's demanding, he's
demanding, he's demanding. Uh -uh.
Not that I reward. You wait for the behavior, and then he has to know, I did
this so I get that.
Who's next?
Take the bowl.
I actually thought to myself, how am I going to get Mike to approach this cat
without fear? And I feel like maybe if he was invested in an action, he
be so worried about Achilles striking out to him.
Come here.
Sit. Sit down. Hey, sit.
No.
No.
No, that's my hand. Leave him onto his tree.
Okay.
Hey, buddy.
Right up here.
Good boy.
There you go. Achilles was so willing to do whatever it took for the food that
you could see Mike finally go from fear to no fear just like that. That was a
great moment.
Let's sit down.
I'll tell you what I've seen today. Oh, and by the way.
This is where I want that whiteboard to be. I want you guys to be checking off
the good cop stuff, the bad cop stuff. I think it's going to help a lot.
I'm going to have you guys sit on the floor.
All right. I know.
I want to hear you do your affirmations.
Amy has been holding on to the bad energy that she had in herself, so I
an exercise where I want her to start saying affirmations because I believe
will help change the energy. Hey, Kelly.
You're such a good boy.
In our future, I see you, me, and Mike getting along really well.
I feel like the affirmation, like it's connecting Achilles and I more, and it's
so positive, and then not using Dragon or anything negative. I haven't said
anything negative, and I feel like that has been beneficial for us.
As you're talking to him, he's perfectly still right now. I love it. Now, with
that in mind, let's get into homework.
I'm going to give you my clicker, okay? The way clickers work is...
We're going to have him do something like we were just doing sit with him.
go sit, that's the command, butt hits the ground.
Click. Treat. Now you have a magical tool. This is your homework
Mike, over the next couple of weeks. Another great benefit of giving Mike
clicker training his homework is that instead of having his hand right near
cat, we had the extended pointer.
That way, Mike has sort of an extension of himself because really, in terms of
getting his hands in the mix, he was really hesitant.
Overall, Mike has to do more of the bonding work. Amy has to release a
bit. Back away from the cat. He has to be...
Mike's as well. That's the only way Mike is ever going to feel home here, and
it's the only way the two of you are ever going to have that affirmative life
that you're both imagining.
And now it's time for a kitty bit.
True or false, cats are nocturnal animals?
The answer when we come back.
True or false, cats are nocturnal animals?
And the answer is false.
Cats are actually crepuscular. That is to say, they're most active during the
dawn and dusk hours.
And why is that? Well, it's because their prey is also most active when the
comes up and when the sun goes down.
I'm going in for my final visit with Mike and Amy and Achilles.
Seriously, all I care about is that I walk into this home and there's no
packed anywhere.
That makes it a good day.
Hey, man. Hey, brother.
Tell me that there's great news to be had here. I need good news today. It's
been good. There's been no attacks.
He's been... Mellow.
Mellowed out, yeah. Acting more normal. That's amazing. Getting a lot of play
in. Mike is doing most of the playing and feeding, and I'm covering what he
can't do, and it's really working.
I think we've moved past co -occupants to buddies.
I'm shocked.
No, seriously.
It's not everybody who does this. I'm not kidding you. Mike stepping up had
Amy know that she could relax around this relationship.
She wasn't afraid that Mike was going to leave at every turn.
It's just, it's so different than any other relationship I've ever been in.
it's more comfortable here. I mean, now that I have a relationship with
everything that lives in this house, it definitely feels like home for me. Well,
hi.
Hello. Hi, friendly.
Oh, my buddy.
It's good to see you.
This is so weird.
Right?
Hello, my good boy.
The homework was really well planned. Like, each little step, you see a little
result. Definitely more active. I played with him and done the whiteboards and
stuff. Kept up with the affirmations.
It worked. Like, we went through the steps and we went through the homework
it shows a different cat. That cat is not the same cat that I met a few weeks
ago, even remotely.
This is seriously the most energy Achilles has put towards play in
years. I got to watch Mike and Amy's video homework, and really the big thing
there was that Mike not only did the actions, the task of playing, which he
amazingly well, it was this hidden gem underneath all of it, which was this
level of investment.
Yeah, that's okay.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's fine if the clicker training is not perfect. I didn't give
them as homework to accomplish a specific task with Achilles. What I gave
them for was to accomplish a certain task with Mike. Mike needed something to
so he wasn't consumed by fear every time his hand was near Achilles. I mean, if
every time you go near that cat, you're like this.
Bad stuff's going to happen. Now, the last time I was here, there was a lot of
tension between you guys based on who's doing what.
This makes sure that that doesn't happen anymore.
We have a great board, a great system.
Three times a day, we've got the play and then feed and the check boxes.
And then Amy has a whole separate one for pills, so we know it's on his meds.
Open.
Oh, boy.
Mike and Amy told me that Achilles is still on his psych meds, which is great
hear, because that means he's no longer an unpredictable source of pain and
violence for them.
Good boy, Achilles.
Good boy. I'm going to come back over here, let him play with you. I asked
to bring Achilles in because the level of fear that Mike exhibited with
the first time I met him bordered on the phobic. So, I mean, I normally would...
Cunk, but he can turn his head.
I move quickly.
Yeah, you do.
This was a different guy playing with a different cat. He really stepped up his
game, and he turned himself around.
So, at this point in the game, relationally, bags packed?
Where are you?
Bags are in the closet. I am staying where I belong.
I'm so happy for both of you guys, because, honestly...
Knowing that Achilles is actually bringing us closer together is... I
would have imagined.
Right? It's incredible.
It is. It's actually amazing. It's the number one thing I'm most thankful for.
Yeah. All of us, yeah. I would imagine.
I could tell this was no longer the girl that I had met who felt that years ago
she had passed all this negative energy onto her cat and the cat was just
holding onto it. I knew that whatever storm had been there when I first met
these guys had passed.
We have two cats, Chompy and Bitten, and they're both a little crazy.
I've never seen them get along. Ever. Ever.
Bitten is constantly on her. She's like a creepy stalker.
My main concern is about our daughter's safety.
You know, the cats, they're just too crazy.
If she got clawed by one of the cats, they'd be done.
I'm heading over right now to Kevin and Megan's house and talk about a mess.
We've got two cats, Chompy and Bitten, that are just beating the snot out of
each other. We've got Kevin on Team Chompy and Megan on Team Bitten. And
got a one -year -old child involved here, and if anything happens to her,
afraid both of these cats are hitting the street. So I've got to get over
right now and make sure that doesn't happen.
I'm Megan.
I'm Kevin. We've been married for six years.
And we have a one -year -old daughter named Quinn.
And she is everywhere and full of energy.
And we have two cats.
One's chompy and one's bitten.
They're both domestic short hairs and they're both a little crazy.
Life's okay.
We had chompy for like three years before we got bitten. The cats do not
along. I've never seen them get along. Ever. Ever.
Bitten.
hunt down the honor. She's like a creepy stalker.
He'll just hide behind there. Yeah, or he'll be under the table waiting for her
to jump down if she jumps down right there.
Hey, hey, hey!
No.
Get away from the cat. And I'm trying to corral the baby and I'm trying to
corral the cats and it's just a big mess.
The biggest reason we're doing this is for our daughter.
One, because I want her to be safe around the cats, and two, because we
can't be constantly breaking up fights between them.
I'm definitely on Team Bitten, because he's a much better cat.
He'll sit with me, and he'll cuddle with me, and I love Bitten. I'm definitely
Team Chompy.
It's okay.
It'd be nothing off my nose if Bitten was gone.
Bitten would be a perfect cat if it wasn't for Chompy. If you didn't have
to, like... fight with all the time, he would be a perfect cat. He's nice.
He's an a -hole.
Jackson is our last hope. I saw the show, and I was like, oh, my God.
If he can come here and do something for these cats, because I'm out of ideas,
please come help us.
Hey, man. Hey, Kevin.
I'm Jackson. I'm glad you made it. Hey. Hi, Megan.
Hey, Megan. Hey.
This is Quinn.
Hey, Quinn.
So tell me, what brings me here today?
Well, our two cats, their psychotic behavior, and our daughter.
The cat's, one's name's Chompy. She wandered into the backyard, and I said,
kitty. We got a call one day from the neighbor of her previous owners, and she
spoke to me on the phone and basically said her old owners were very abusive.
She'd seen them kick her. Oh, wow.
She was underfed. Yeah.
Kevin and Megan tell me that the history with Chompy is really sad.
They rescued her from neighbors who clearly abused this cat. That gave me a
of insight into who these people are, and I really like them.
Bitten is after Chompy all the time. He jumps on her at least five times a day,
but he stalks her relentlessly. He just follows her around. Which it never
stops. No.
They're, at this point, just allowed out at each other 24 -7? During the day,
Chompy, we actually let her outside a lot to get her out of the house so she
doesn't have to deal with bitten.
Started putting her in the garage. She's much happier there at night, but it's
still stuck. It's cold and it's hot.
She's only happy there because she's not getting... Yeah, because she's giving
me a load. Right, right.
I mean, I understand that Kevin and Megan have... A purpose by putting
the garage.
On the other hand, if Chompy got to vote, would her vote be to be in the
at night? I don't think so. In the middle of all this mayhem, Quinn comes.
Yeah. Okay.
How often do you spend breaking up fights in a given day?
I probably break up at least five a day. A day?
A day.
Wow. I'm constantly dividing my time between dealing with the cats,
the cats, and trying to spend time with my daughter.
If there had to be a one cat home, who would it be? Bitten.
Chompy. Oh.
Yeah. Oh, this is going to be fun.
Simultaneously, Chompy Bitten from both of these guys.
That would be a divide.
That would be a huge problem that we've got moving forward.
Chompy had a lot harder life.
I don't want to give up a cat that was abused.
It's just not fair to her. And so I wanted to get rid of him.
And then she gets really pissed off when I say stuff like that. And, you know,
we got into a couple arguments where finally I've just kind of stopped, you
know, because it just.
Leave too much stress between us. I don't think it's an option to get rid of
Bitten.
What I'm hearing is that Bitten is the one who's instigating all the fight.
Between the cats, yeah. Okay, so why would Bitten be the one that would stay
here? Thank you. Thank you.
We're not getting rid of one of those cats. I don't care what he says. Like,
not doing that.
I'm, like, all about the undercat, so I'm, like, thinking about Chompy right
now. And I'm thinking about what's the right life for her.
Right now, at the very outset here, I'm seeing one cat who's being tortured.
Chompy is already a traumatized cat who's lived through a lot before.
So I want them to be ready to know that at some point you may have to do the
responsible and loving thing and find the right home because this might not be
it. So this is the bedroom.
Right now, I guarantee Chompy's under the bed. Okay, so here we have it. Here
have it.
Something's got to be going on down here, right?
Mm -hmm. So what do we have? Well, hello.
When we walked in the bedroom, not only was Chompy under the bed, but Bitten was
just standing there patrolling like it was a border. He was just waiting for
to come out, and he would get her when the time came.
I was trying to get her to come out from underneath Kevin and Megan's bed with
no success.
This is our cat box.
We used to have two, but one moved to the garage when we started moving Chompy
out there.
Does she pee in here?
She does, yeah.
But a lot of times she'll hold it until she can go outside or until the night
because it attacks her when she uses it.
This breaks my heart because this is one of those things where she's basically
saying no place is safe for me.
It made me feel really bad to hear him, in his words, replay the fact that as an
abused cat, she's now being abused in my home, albeit not by people, but by a
cat. And I felt really bad about that and really want that to change.
As I was talking to Kevin and Megan, I saw Chompy just dash from one side of
room to the other. She was being stalked by Bitten. And what she did, what she
always does, she looks for a hiding place. And this time, it was under the
couch.
Now she's going under, and he's going to follow her. I think that Bitten is a
little play aggressive.
He's a little boy. He likes to chase things around, and he's finding a great
thing to chase around.
Chompy runs from him, and that's what's causing a lot of this problem. The good
news, the silver lining, is that to me it's not a dominant issue.
It's, ooh, look at her move.
Look at the way she, ooh, she moves like a weasel.
Ooh, she moves like a snake. I'm going to go get her. And that's what we have
deal with.
If you guys are ready, I'm going to start giving you homework.
All right. All right. The first thing that I want to get into is switching up
the team, which means I want you, for instance, to start taking control of
Chompy.
See?
You're right. I want you to be the one taking charge of raising her self
-esteem. Likewise, you get to be in charge of Team Bitten, which is a little
more about... getting his energy out in a positive way. So the homework for
Kevin is I want him to play a lot with Bitten because Bitten's energy has never
been expressed out of his body in any other way but by chasing Chompy. At the
same time, I want them blocking off under the couch, under the bed, because
want to see Chompy moving through space confidently. So every time Bitten looks
at Chompy, he sees more and more confidence. He doesn't see a scared
doesn't chase her.
Also, making sure that the litter box is not this huge ambush zone.
I basically want these guys to be able to appreciate the other cats they have
their house because they're so willing to give up on the other one. Bottom line
is this. I want you guys to be one team.
That's our goal. Okay. And I think that we're going to definitely start getting
there. Chompy has been abused in the past.
And I think that she needs to find her self -esteem within the house and with
this family. And I think all the assignments that I gave Megan and Kevin
help in that respect.
But I'm still keeping it on the table that one of these cats may need to leave
this home.
Great to meet you. You too, man. Thanks for coming. Thank you. All right. We'll
talk to you soon. All right. Bye, guys.
I'm heading in for my second visit with Megan and Kevin and their cats, Chompy
and Bitten.
Now, these two cats are at each other. There's violence every single day, which
is a problem enough in itself, but there is a one -year -old daughter in the
picture as well, and the parents are at their end.
Hey, man.
How are you? Good, yourself?
I'm good, I'm good. Hey, hey.
So, tell me, things are looking a little better, maybe?
Yeah. All right, talk about it. Let me hear.
Well, since we started playing with them, Bitten's really calmed down, and
Chompy's coming out a bit more.
For four days, their fights were cut in half, like at least in half. Right on.
Yeah. We have gone from five to six major screaming matches a day, and the
of the time, having Bitten stalk Chompy, gone except for maybe one fight between
the cats per day. That is a major bridge that we've crossed.
I've got a bunch of...
video homework footage from you guys. I'd like to go over it with you and
take a look. Yeah? Okay.
You gotta let go, bud.
Hey, Benton, are you tired?
You panting a little bit, huh?
Are you playing with Benton, Quinn?
Do you like it, Chompy?
Yeah, good girl, Chompy.
Come on, Chompy.
So underneath, I put two by four, three, the block on the underside, and this
left side.
Good work.
Really nice.
Got to see Kevin and Megan's video homework.
The great stuff is there's great play going on, not just with Bitten, but hey,
with Chompy as well. Chompy playing is a big deal. Yeah, she wouldn't play
before. Here's where play becomes such this fascinating thing, right? For
Bitten, it's about draining off that destructive energy. For her...
It's about raising up self -esteem.
One other thing that I really loved was Quinn playing with Bitten because you're
setting up a relationship between Quinn and the cat.
And she's going to grow up with respect for the cat, and it's really cool. All
in all, those were really wonderful things to see. But you are still seeing
fights. You're still seeing some arguments.
It's time to take a look around the house again and see what they had and
done.
Okay, so now the last time I was here, litter box was over there. Yeah.
What I'm seeing now, litter box over here.
I still got a minor problem with it, though.
If I'm chompy and I'm in here and I'm doing that, then
that sound alone is causing Bitten to come in here. Sure enough, as I
in the litter box.
Bitten came out of nowhere.
You see that? Yeah, see, look at that face.
He's like, what are you doing in my ball? Look at him. He doesn't even like
in there. We have to change up that sound altogether.
And my idea is that we try a completely different type of litter. Oh. Because if
we could just change up the sound, then we change up the association.
As I was standing there with Kevin and Megan, I looked into Quinn's room. I see
Chompy under the crib. So it was time to go into Quinn's room and spend some
time with Chompy.
It's okay.
Little chompy.
Even though she was under the crib, I felt really confident that with some
treats, I'd be able to pull her out.
Little chompy.
Come on.
Hi, girlfriend.
Hi, girlfriend.
Good girl.
This is pretty amazing. I mean, the last time I was here, she wouldn't have
anything to do with me.
Oh.
I'm just shocked that she came out.
Even with me, she wouldn't let me pet her for very long.
Right? Yeah, I know. Not bad.
Yeah.
Chompy coming out from under the crib and feeling comfortable around us was
huge. Now our next goal is to get Bitten and Chompy in the same room without
killing one another, and that's where the circle game comes in. I want these
guys moving in circles, but opposite each other. The idea is I don't want her
even know that Bitten's in the room, kind of. Chompy. Do you see how between
every treat she's still looking around, she's still trying to figure out what's
going on, she's still a little hesitant? Yeah. By the time I come back here, I
don't want to see any hesitance whatsoever.
Chompy kept looking behind her. That was her acting like prey again. Those are
the moments we have to eliminate all together in order for these guys to ever
have a chance of living in peace together.
You guys ready for some homework?
Yeah. All right. Now, the first thing is I want you to continue the circle game.
The next thing, I don't want Chompy going to the garage at night.
We have tried bringing Chompy in overnight, and it usually results in
fights in the middle of the night. It was like running through the house,
growling, hissing, screaming kind of a fight. So I am really not looking
to having Chompy inside at night.
Bitten's big play session.
Let's space it about, I would say, an hour to an hour and a half before you go
to bed at night. Okay. I'm hoping to see a more confident Chompy, you know, a
cat that isn't going to hide and act like this is her home.
I never thought about it until you just said it right now, that Chompy does not
act like this is her home. She acts like the garage and outside is her home.
Yeah. He's saying that really is like, yeah, I'd really like to see that.
Remember, at the end of the day, I want you to be able to spend more time with
Quinn without worrying about Kat and Fight.
And catfights. Yeah, there are some miraculous changes going on in that
But all it takes is one stare down, one weird look, one time the chompy's
feeling a little edgy and run, and we're back to square one. So I'm not sure at
all how this is going to end unless these guys stay 110 % vigilant.
It was great to see you. You too. All right. We'll talk to you soon. All
Jen. Bye -bye. Bye.
I'm going in for my final visit with Megan and Kevin, Chompy and Bitten.
Now, these cats hate each other, but there is a one -year -old daughter in
picture as well.
So I'm just hoping that the momentum that we established from the last time I
was here just continued because these guys were doing well. There were just
backslides in terms of the violence. I just want to see that completely over.
What is this?
I'm absolutely, I'm like, I'm blown away right now. Yeah.
Chompy is out walking around, being a part of everything, rubbing up against
legs, jumping up on the couch.
Not the cat that I know. We did the circle game and we noticed that Chompy
more intent on the toy. So then we started playing with both of them in the
space at the same time.
And they would give each other the respect.
No aggression between them at all.
It was none. No attacks.
No attacks.
No attacks.
Yeah. When I first met Chompy, she was invisible. As a matter of fact, I didn't
meet Chompy. I didn't meet Chompy until the second time I came over here because
she was so petrified. She had no confidence.
She felt like she was going to get attacked at all times. And to see her
around this room with all the self -confidence in the world and this, I
here. This is mine.
I knew that everything was going to be okay. Keeping her in all the time, I
think, has really helped her to realize that this is her house. Yeah. She is
safe in it. And I think it helped Bitten understand that, you know, this is her
house, and she is here all the time, so back off.
The fact that Chompy...
Doesn't have to sleep in the garage anymore.
That's part of the reason why we're seeing that cat today the way we are.
finally, in the words of Megan, home. Do you feel differently towards Chompy at
this point? Oh, yeah. I love Chompy. How are you feeling about Bitten? I
actually like Bitten now.
Very nice.
It's much nicer. And for you as well.
Team Chompy, team Bitten no more. Makes me very happy. Great. I can say that I
love Bitten just as much as I love Chompy now.
What else? Tell me what else.
We changed cat litter, and she's been able to use the box now.
Bitten had a whole bunch of signals that said it's time to attack Chompy. One of
those things was the litter. So my idea was, let's get a different type of
litter that's not clay, so every time that Chompy scratches, it doesn't make
sound, and she gets to go in peace.
Team Bitten, Team Chompy, done.
We don't have to worry about anything anymore. These guys are a family now.
is huge news.
It makes me so happy to see her enjoy the cat now. You know, she's really
developing a relationship with them.
Watch out for crazy chompy cat. They feel like chompy is at home now. She
doesn't have to worry about being attacked anymore by anyone or anything.
So it's so much nicer. Thank you so much. Yeah. We were really at a loss.
we didn't know what to do. And honestly, no offense, I thought you were a load
of BS.
Obviously. You were talking all this math before you got here. This guy's not
going to do anything.
I'll take that. That's fine.
But obviously, you definitely said that. Shut up, Kevin.
Because I was completely wrong. You know absolutely what you're talking about,
and it 100 % surpassed any expectation I could have had. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, thank you. I really appreciate it. You have given me time
with our daughter, you know? I mean, we get to spend time with her.
And it's because of you and all of your work. So we really, really, really do
appreciate it. You're absolutely welcome.
Overall today, everything came together in a way that you only fantasize about.
This is what I dream of, being able to work with people who love their animals
and are just missing some tools.
I give them the tools, and that makes my job something that I would do for the
rest of my life. Thank you for everything.
You're absolutely welcome.
Totally psyched to walk away right now with this level of peace that we have.
Bye, guys. Bye. Thank you.
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