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Achilles is extremely aggressive.
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He likes to attack. I feel like he's a
demon.
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And there's nothing that's going to stop
him.
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Maybe I should pack my bags and get my
own place.
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We have two cats, Chompy and Bitten, and
they're both a little crazy.
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I've never seen them get along. Ever.
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It was like a creepy stalker.
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My main concern is about our daughter's
safety.
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You know, the cats, they're just too
crazy.
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If she got clawed by one of the cats,
they'd be done.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans only have one.
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Whoa!
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Ow!
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I'm going over to Amy's house right now.
Her cat Achilles is so aggressive.
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that her boyfriend Mike's got one foot
out the door right now, and I don't
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him. I've seen that cat in action.
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I'm going over right now to see if I can
restore some peace to this house.
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I'm Amy. I'm a pediatric nurse. I'm
Mike. I work at UCLA.
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We've been dating for a little over a
year. And we've lived together for eight
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months. Achilles' mom had kittens, and
my best friend wanted to get the kittens
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away, and she gave me Achilles.
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He'd always been scratching me, and I
thought that's what cats do, but he
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Probably six months old when he just
attacked.
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He is extremely aggressive.
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He likes to attack unprovoked.
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I feel like he's a demon.
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I feel like there's something in there.
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It's okay.
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You need to go in the bedroom.
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I feel like I should get rid of the cat,
but I can't.
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Achilles and I have been through
boyfriends. We've been through sick
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He's been there for me. I can't give up
on him. It just frustrates me, and I
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start thinking, well, why do we have a
cat that's just going to torture us?
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I have lost a lot of boyfriends over
Achilles.
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Mike is the first guy I've ever felt
this way about. I don't want to lose
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another boyfriend because of Achilles.
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Are you okay?
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No, we're not okay?
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I'll pack my bags and I'll get ready to
leave. Amy will be really upset.
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I'll be really upset. I said things
like, you're not helping us. This is
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we're doing wrong. We need to change
these behaviors.
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And as I was pleading with Mike over
tears, the cat attacked me.
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Mid -fighting for him.
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And I just lost it.
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Maybe it's better if I just didn't live
here.
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I don't want Mike to move out.
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I want to fix Kelly's because Jackson is
our only hope so we can save our
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relationship.
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Hey. Hey, Mike.
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What's up, Mike? Amy. Hey, Amy. How are
you guys doing? Thanks for coming.
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Of course. Of course.
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So tell me, why am I here?
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We've been having a lot of problems with
the killings. First it was biting the
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calves, and then it has turned into
unprovoked attacks.
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What does attack look like to you guys?
He'll be purring, and all of a sudden
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his eyes go black, his ears go flat.
He's purring, and he wants to attack.
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So he can just be sitting there, and the
next second he's somebody else.
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I've been asleep in the bed, and I've
been bitten in the back of the head
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before. Turned around, he's ready to go
again.
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And when he bites you, does he break
skin?
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Yes. He does?
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Yes. Okay.
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I know he looks like a cat, but I really
don't think he's a cat. What is he?
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Maybe a dragon?
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I don't know. Do you freaking tell
people this?
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If you're calling your cat, who you
love, a dragon or a demon, they pick up
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that. They soak up that energy. At some
point, they're going to spit that back
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out. He doesn't let Mike sleep at night
when I'm not here. Mike's meeting. Does
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he work nights?
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I work night shifts, though. So you guys
have a totally opposite schedule. Oh,
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yeah. So he's vulnerable all the time,
and it makes me scared for him.
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Have you been attacked in your sleep?
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I haven't been attacked in my sleep
because I use the blanket under the door
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he can't claw the carpet, and then I
shut the door.
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He's out.
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When we are able to actually sleep in
the bed together, which is two to three
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nights a week, I leave the door open,
and every time Achilles gets in the bed,
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Mike sits up.
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Why do you still have Achilles?
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Before Achilles came into my life, I was
not the nicest person, just kind of
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angry. And I felt like the minute I got
him, he took it from me.
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Amy shared this piece of information
with me, which was so deep. She said
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at one point she was a very angry
person. And she thought that Achilles
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that energy. So I know now that part of
my work with her is helping that energy
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pass through him.
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I think Amy has allowed Achilles to do
things far beyond what anyone should
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allow their pet to do.
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It's gotten to the point where I've
been, like, bags packed, ready to go.
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Okay. We've got a lot of work in front
of us.
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As I see it, there are really high
stakes involved with Achilles because
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though Mike is being a little secretive
about his desire to fix it or leave, I
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know he's frustrated. I know he's
getting barely any sleep. I know that
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tries to project a future with Amy, he
doesn't see it with Achilles. That's a
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big hurdle that we're going to try to
get over. Hello, cat.
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He looks awfully nice right now. Right?
I just want you to sit down and just be
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with him for a minute, the way you would
normally do it, just the way you would
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normally be with him. Hey, buddy.
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This is when he sleeps. It's during the
day. It's at night that he's a little
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more crazy and up and physically a
little more demanding.
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So, time to bring Mike over and see the
same thing.
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I mean, see if I pet him, he'll... I
just want to see what you would normally
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do.
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Yeah, I don't... I can't always tell if
he likes that, because he'll come over,
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see, and he won't like that.
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That's tricky now with his head turned
the way it is. You can run this side.
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I mean, I normally would come, but he's
going to turn his head. See, I move
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quickly. Yeah, you do.
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This we can't have.
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This looks like prey. It looks like a
rabbit running away.
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Mike has no confidence whatsoever, and
that was really important for me to see.
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He does that thing.
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What thing was that? He just opens his
mouth and does a little thing.
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See, that's your cue. I need to see this
behavior because that information is so
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key to moving forward and getting these
guys on the right track. So I'm going to
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come back tomorrow night when he's known
to act up. But for right now, we can't
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waste any time. I'm going to get Amy and
Mike started on their homework.
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All right. Well, he needs to get to a
vet. And my guess is he needs to be on
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some kind of med because he doesn't have
to be this unpredictable source of
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blood and pain.
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Listen, I'm not a doctor, but let's be
plain.
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When a cat goes blank like this, you're
sitting with them one second, and the
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next second they are all over you trying
to claw your eyes out. That means that
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there is no stimulation from the
environment. There is nothing coming
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environment to cause it. It's probably
his brain doing it.
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Mike, you get to build a new
relationship with him.
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You are the player. You are the feeder.
You are the bringer of all good things,
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okay? On the downside of things, you're
also going to be sleeping with the door
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open. No more towel under the door. You
are going to let him come into the room
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and be with you at night.
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Now what? Tell me what you guys are
thinking right now.
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I'm scared for him.
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That is so helpful. Thank you so much.
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Why not act as if this is a trustworthy
cat? Listen to his body, watch his
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responses, and Achilles will respond
accordingly over a certain amount of
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There's no point in you going like this
all the time. Amy, with you, I'd like
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you to come up with a list of what we
call affirmations.
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Positive, visualized mantras.
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Amy has been holding on to the shame and
the guilt about Achilles, giving him
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this negative, bad energy that she had
in herself.
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So I gave her an exercise where I want
her to start saying affirmations because
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it's time for no one to have that energy
anymore. The fact that you told me
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right off the bat that you've lost
relationships over Achilles, Mike, I
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keep you here.
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I really do.
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I think the hardest part for me is
believe in my head that nothing bad is
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to happen.
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Achilles has definitely not made this
place. I feel like home ever since I
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in. It's been his place, not mine.
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Thank you so much.
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Amy just keeps presenting Achilles to
the world unmedicated and hoping that he
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doesn't shred people.
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And he keeps shredding people.
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In a way, this is kind of the worst case
scenario because I've got a cat who
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seems to be neurologically damaged. I've
got a guy who's got one foot out the
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door. I don't expect great things. I've
got to be honest with you.
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Hey, man. How you doing? Hey, Mike.
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What's going down, man?
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The last time I was here, we didn't
quite get the behavior from Achilles
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Mike and Amy said that they see on a
regular basis that has almost sent Mike
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packing. I don't really want to get bit.
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I've heard that Achilles tends to
activate a little bit more at night when
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goes to work, and Mike is stuck alone
with him to deal with it. So I'm coming
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back today to see if there's anything
that I can see that I didn't see
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yesterday.
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Ow. Come on, bud. Ow.
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Come on now.
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Let's get you out of there. I don't want
you all cornered up in there.
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Ow. All right, bud.
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Damn. So this is a different cat than I
saw the first time I was here. Yeah,
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he's full on crazy mode now.
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Achilles and Amy both sleep during the
day right now. She's wide awake at work
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at the hospital, and Achilles is wide
awake here at their home, ready to do
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damage on either Mike or, I think, me.
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Dude.
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But, dude, that one hurt.
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Bite, scratches, both hands kind of
shaking a little bit because that
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last bite really hurt. I mean, he went
kind of to the bone a little bit. I
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want to tell Mike, actually, because I'm
going to freak him out too much.
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I know. You're growling, and at the same
time, I know I can give you food out of
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my damn hand.
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What's up with that?
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That was pretty severe.
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Not what I was expecting at all.
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I'm going to give it the rest of
tonight. I'm going to see these guys in
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more days and hopefully have a better
plan.
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I'm going in for my second visit with
Mike and Amy and their cat, Achilles.
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The last time I was here, I saw what Amy
has been seeing for just about six
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years, a highly unpredictable,
aggressive cat.
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Hello. Hi.
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How are you? Good. How are you? I'm
great. Come on in.
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Hey, tell me what you've accomplished
since the last time I was here.
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The first thing we did was we went to
the vet and we started him on
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Good, good. She went to the vet. She got
him put on psych meds, which is great
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because it was so important for him to
get on those meds in the first place to
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give him time to stabilize and help
improve his behavior.
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I'm able to sleep through the night
because I've been leaving the door open.
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Let's stop right there.
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So you've been leaving the door open,
which I give you all the props in the
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world for. That's amazing.
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He's telling me that he opens the door
every night, allowed Achilles in, and
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what happened? Nothing.
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Space sharing is so important to cats
because cats have territorial needs.
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And the bed has become this place where
space sharing is starting to take hold.
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Big time change.
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I am playing the role of a good cop. I
bring out the toys and I feed them. But
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Amy also pulls out the toys and she
feeds them. You don't get to look like a
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good cop when there's two good cops,
right? In the very beginning.
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I wasn't sure. I didn't know if Mike had
played with him or fed him, and he
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looked like he needed to play. You have
to trust Mike to do that loving part.
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If that's us having a whiteboard here
saying, check, check, check, that might
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sound silly to you, but I think we
should do it.
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I felt the tension between them
immediately.
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Mike is trying to be the good cop, and
Amy's not letting it happen. So now
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got good cop and better cop.
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That's not going to work. Right. I'm
just...
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That's so fearful that if he does one of
his dragon Jekyll Hyde things that he's
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really going to hurt Mike.
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Is it the hurt that you're worried about
or the aftermath?
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The aftermath.
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Which is what? That he just leaves and
can't live with it because it's not
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Amy is still that person that I met
during my first visit. I mean, she is
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absolutely scared that Mike is going to
leave her at any time. So that's an
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obstacle we're going to have to work on.
Let's take a look at your video
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homework.
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Mike was doing things, Phil, completely
wrong and full of fear about being
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tagged by Achilles.
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Oh, what?
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How is it that he's just standing there?
He didn't make that happen at all. It's
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not the environment. It's not the
territory. It's nothing. The catch is
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him. It is really concerning and leads
me to think that it's neurological.
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So I want them to keep going on the meds
that they just started on so we can see
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if there's any progress with his
unpredictability.
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Want to play?
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He's going to stare at me? I really have
to show Mike how to approach Achilles.
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I knew from my experience with Achilles
that he's so food motivated that he
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could want to beat me up and he could
strike out at me and then I could
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food and he'd be like, oh, what you got?
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It gave me an idea. I know that I've got
something to keep Mike busy for the
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next couple of weeks.
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Here, Grump.
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Here you go.
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Let me show you.
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Because this was me and him all night,
right? Where he's demanding, he's
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demanding, he's demanding. Uh -uh.
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Not that I reward. You wait for the
behavior, and then he has to know, I did
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this so I get that.
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Who's next?
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Take the bowl.
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I actually thought to myself, how am I
going to get Mike to approach this cat
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without fear? And I feel like maybe if
he was invested in an action, he
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be so worried about Achilles striking
out to him.
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Come here.
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Sit. Sit down. Hey, sit.
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No.
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No.
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No, that's my hand. Leave him onto his
tree.
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Okay.
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Hey, buddy.
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Right up here.
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Good boy.
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There you go. Achilles was so willing to
do whatever it took for the food that
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you could see Mike finally go from fear
to no fear just like that. That was a
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great moment.
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Let's sit down.
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I'll tell you what I've seen today. Oh,
and by the way.
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This is where I want that whiteboard to
be. I want you guys to be checking off
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the good cop stuff, the bad cop stuff. I
think it's going to help a lot.
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I'm going to have you guys sit on the
floor.
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All right. I know.
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I want to hear you do your affirmations.
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Amy has been holding on to the bad
energy that she had in herself, so I
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an exercise where I want her to start
saying affirmations because I believe
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will help change the energy. Hey, Kelly.
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You're such a good boy.
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In our future, I see you, me, and Mike
getting along really well.
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I feel like the affirmation, like it's
connecting Achilles and I more, and it's
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so positive, and then not using Dragon
or anything negative. I haven't said
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anything negative, and I feel like that
has been beneficial for us.
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As you're talking to him, he's perfectly
still right now. I love it. Now, with
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that in mind, let's get into homework.
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I'm going to give you my clicker, okay?
The way clickers work is...
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We're going to have him do something
like we were just doing sit with him.
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go sit, that's the command, butt hits
the ground.
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Click. Treat. Now you have a magical
tool. This is your homework
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Mike, over the next couple of weeks.
Another great benefit of giving Mike
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clicker training his homework is that
instead of having his hand right near
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cat, we had the extended pointer.
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That way, Mike has sort of an extension
of himself because really, in terms of
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getting his hands in the mix, he was
really hesitant.
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Overall, Mike has to do more of the
bonding work. Amy has to release a
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bit. Back away from the cat. He has to
be...
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Mike's as well. That's the only way Mike
is ever going to feel home here, and
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it's the only way the two of you are
ever going to have that affirmative life
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that you're both imagining.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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True or false, cats are nocturnal
animals?
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The answer when we come back.
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True or false, cats are nocturnal
animals?
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And the answer is false.
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Cats are actually crepuscular. That is
to say, they're most active during the
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dawn and dusk hours.
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And why is that? Well, it's because
their prey is also most active when the
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comes up and when the sun goes down.
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I'm going in for my final visit with
Mike and Amy and Achilles.
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Seriously, all I care about is that I
walk into this home and there's no
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packed anywhere.
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That makes it a good day.
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Hey, man. Hey, brother.
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Tell me that there's great news to be
had here. I need good news today. It's
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been good. There's been no attacks.
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He's been... Mellow.
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Mellowed out, yeah. Acting more normal.
That's amazing. Getting a lot of play
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in. Mike is doing most of the playing
and feeding, and I'm covering what he
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can't do, and it's really working.
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I think we've moved past co -occupants
to buddies.
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I'm shocked.
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No, seriously.
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It's not everybody who does this. I'm
not kidding you. Mike stepping up had
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Amy know that she could relax around
this relationship.
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She wasn't afraid that Mike was going to
leave at every turn.
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It's just, it's so different than any
other relationship I've ever been in.
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it's more comfortable here. I mean, now
that I have a relationship with
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everything that lives in this house, it
definitely feels like home for me. Well,
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hi.
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Hello. Hi, friendly.
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Oh, my buddy.
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It's good to see you.
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This is so weird.
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Right?
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Hello, my good boy.
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The homework was really well planned.
Like, each little step, you see a little
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result. Definitely more active. I played
with him and done the whiteboards and
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stuff. Kept up with the affirmations.
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It worked. Like, we went through the
steps and we went through the homework
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it shows a different cat. That cat is
not the same cat that I met a few weeks
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ago, even remotely.
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This is seriously the most energy
Achilles has put towards play in
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years. I got to watch Mike and Amy's
video homework, and really the big thing
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there was that Mike not only did the
actions, the task of playing, which he
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amazingly well, it was this hidden gem
underneath all of it, which was this
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level of investment.
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Yeah, that's okay.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, it's fine if the clicker
training is not perfect. I didn't give
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them as homework to accomplish a
specific task with Achilles. What I gave
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them for was to accomplish a certain
task with Mike. Mike needed something to
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so he wasn't consumed by fear every time
his hand was near Achilles. I mean, if
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every time you go near that cat, you're
like this.
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Bad stuff's going to happen. Now, the
last time I was here, there was a lot of
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tension between you guys based on who's
doing what.
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This makes sure that that doesn't happen
anymore.
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We have a great board, a great system.
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Three times a day, we've got the play
and then feed and the check boxes.
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And then Amy has a whole separate one
for pills, so we know it's on his meds.
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Open.
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Oh, boy.
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Mike and Amy told me that Achilles is
still on his psych meds, which is great
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hear, because that means he's no longer
an unpredictable source of pain and
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violence for them.
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Good boy, Achilles.
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Good boy. I'm going to come back over
here, let him play with you. I asked
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to bring Achilles in because the level
of fear that Mike exhibited with
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the first time I met him bordered on the
phobic. So, I mean, I normally would...
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Cunk, but he can turn his head.
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I move quickly.
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Yeah, you do.
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This was a different guy playing with a
different cat. He really stepped up his
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game, and he turned himself around.
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So, at this point in the game,
relationally, bags packed?
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Where are you?
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Bags are in the closet. I am staying
where I belong.
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I'm so happy for both of you guys,
because, honestly...
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Knowing that Achilles is actually
bringing us closer together is... I
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would have imagined.
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Right? It's incredible.
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It is. It's actually amazing. It's the
number one thing I'm most thankful for.
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Yeah. All of us, yeah. I would imagine.
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I could tell this was no longer the girl
that I had met who felt that years ago
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she had passed all this negative energy
onto her cat and the cat was just
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holding onto it. I knew that whatever
storm had been there when I first met
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these guys had passed.
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We have two cats, Chompy and Bitten, and
they're both a little crazy.
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I've never seen them get along. Ever.
Ever.
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Bitten is constantly on her. She's like
a creepy stalker.
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My main concern is about our daughter's
safety.
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You know, the cats, they're just too
crazy.
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If she got clawed by one of the cats,
they'd be done.
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I'm heading over right now to Kevin and
Megan's house and talk about a mess.
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We've got two cats, Chompy and Bitten,
that are just beating the snot out of
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each other. We've got Kevin on Team
Chompy and Megan on Team Bitten. And
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got a one -year -old child involved
here, and if anything happens to her,
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afraid both of these cats are hitting
the street. So I've got to get over
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right now and make sure that doesn't
happen.
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I'm Megan.
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I'm Kevin. We've been married for six
years.
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And we have a one -year -old daughter
named Quinn.
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And she is everywhere and full of
energy.
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And we have two cats.
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One's chompy and one's bitten.
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They're both domestic short hairs and
they're both a little crazy.
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Life's okay.
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We had chompy for like three years
before we got bitten. The cats do not
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along. I've never seen them get along.
Ever. Ever.
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Bitten.
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hunt down the honor. She's like a creepy
stalker.
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He'll just hide behind there. Yeah, or
he'll be under the table waiting for her
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to jump down if she jumps down right
there.
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Hey, hey, hey!
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No.
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Get away from the cat. And I'm trying to
corral the baby and I'm trying to
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corral the cats and it's just a big
mess.
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The biggest reason we're doing this is
for our daughter.
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One, because I want her to be safe
around the cats, and two, because we
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can't be constantly breaking up fights
between them.
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I'm definitely on Team Bitten, because
he's a much better cat.
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He'll sit with me, and he'll cuddle with
me, and I love Bitten. I'm definitely
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Team Chompy.
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It's okay.
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It'd be nothing off my nose if Bitten
was gone.
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Bitten would be a perfect cat if it
wasn't for Chompy. If you didn't have
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to, like... fight with all the time, he
would be a perfect cat. He's nice.
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He's an a -hole.
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Jackson is our last hope. I saw the
show, and I was like, oh, my God.
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If he can come here and do something for
these cats, because I'm out of ideas,
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please come help us.
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Hey, man. Hey, Kevin.
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I'm Jackson. I'm glad you made it. Hey.
Hi, Megan.
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Hey, Megan. Hey.
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This is Quinn.
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Hey, Quinn.
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So tell me, what brings me here today?
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Well, our two cats, their psychotic
behavior, and our daughter.
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The cat's, one's name's Chompy. She
wandered into the backyard, and I said,
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kitty. We got a call one day from the
neighbor of her previous owners, and she
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spoke to me on the phone and basically
said her old owners were very abusive.
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She'd seen them kick her. Oh, wow.
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She was underfed. Yeah.
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Kevin and Megan tell me that the history
with Chompy is really sad.
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They rescued her from neighbors who
clearly abused this cat. That gave me a
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of insight into who these people are,
and I really like them.
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00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,280
Bitten is after Chompy all the time. He
jumps on her at least five times a day,
452
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,560
but he stalks her relentlessly. He just
follows her around. Which it never
453
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,560
stops. No.
454
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,680
They're, at this point, just allowed out
at each other 24 -7? During the day,
455
00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:18,840
Chompy, we actually let her outside a
lot to get her out of the house so she
456
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,980
doesn't have to deal with bitten.
457
00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:22,940
Started putting her in the garage. She's
much happier there at night, but it's
458
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:24,360
still stuck. It's cold and it's hot.
459
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:28,060
She's only happy there because she's not
getting... Yeah, because she's giving
460
00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:29,360
me a load. Right, right.
461
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,380
I mean, I understand that Kevin and
Megan have... A purpose by putting
462
00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:35,999
the garage.
463
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,380
On the other hand, if Chompy got to
vote, would her vote be to be in the
464
00:26:40,380 --> 00:26:44,300
at night? I don't think so. In the
middle of all this mayhem, Quinn comes.
465
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,560
Yeah. Okay.
466
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,700
How often do you spend breaking up
fights in a given day?
467
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,660
I probably break up at least five a day.
A day?
468
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:53,900
A day.
469
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,460
Wow. I'm constantly dividing my time
between dealing with the cats,
470
00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:01,680
the cats, and trying to spend time with
my daughter.
471
00:27:02,110 --> 00:27:04,910
If there had to be a one cat home, who
would it be? Bitten.
472
00:27:05,230 --> 00:27:06,270
Chompy. Oh.
473
00:27:07,070 --> 00:27:08,410
Yeah. Oh, this is going to be fun.
474
00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:12,330
Simultaneously, Chompy Bitten from both
of these guys.
475
00:27:12,770 --> 00:27:13,910
That would be a divide.
476
00:27:14,150 --> 00:27:16,410
That would be a huge problem that we've
got moving forward.
477
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:18,110
Chompy had a lot harder life.
478
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:19,930
I don't want to give up a cat that was
abused.
479
00:27:20,170 --> 00:27:22,550
It's just not fair to her. And so I
wanted to get rid of him.
480
00:27:22,810 --> 00:27:26,350
And then she gets really pissed off when
I say stuff like that. And, you know,
481
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:29,750
we got into a couple arguments where
finally I've just kind of stopped, you
482
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:30,750
know, because it just.
483
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:34,600
Leave too much stress between us. I
don't think it's an option to get rid of
484
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Bitten.
485
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,820
What I'm hearing is that Bitten is the
one who's instigating all the fight.
486
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:45,860
Between the cats, yeah. Okay, so why
would Bitten be the one that would stay
487
00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:47,540
here? Thank you. Thank you.
488
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:51,640
We're not getting rid of one of those
cats. I don't care what he says. Like,
489
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,280
not doing that.
490
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,240
I'm, like, all about the undercat, so
I'm, like, thinking about Chompy right
491
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520
now. And I'm thinking about what's the
right life for her.
492
00:28:01,379 --> 00:28:06,160
Right now, at the very outset here, I'm
seeing one cat who's being tortured.
493
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,280
Chompy is already a traumatized cat
who's lived through a lot before.
494
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:16,060
So I want them to be ready to know that
at some point you may have to do the
495
00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:19,900
responsible and loving thing and find
the right home because this might not be
496
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,720
it. So this is the bedroom.
497
00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:25,680
Right now, I guarantee Chompy's under
the bed. Okay, so here we have it. Here
498
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,519
have it.
499
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,260
Something's got to be going on down
here, right?
500
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:30,800
Mm -hmm. So what do we have? Well,
hello.
501
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,300
When we walked in the bedroom, not only
was Chompy under the bed, but Bitten was
502
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:40,540
just standing there patrolling like it
was a border. He was just waiting for
503
00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:42,540
to come out, and he would get her when
the time came.
504
00:28:43,050 --> 00:28:47,030
I was trying to get her to come out from
underneath Kevin and Megan's bed with
505
00:28:47,030 --> 00:28:47,749
no success.
506
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:48,729
This is our cat box.
507
00:28:48,730 --> 00:28:52,090
We used to have two, but one moved to
the garage when we started moving Chompy
508
00:28:52,090 --> 00:28:52,629
out there.
509
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:53,670
Does she pee in here?
510
00:28:54,430 --> 00:28:55,430
She does, yeah.
511
00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:59,510
But a lot of times she'll hold it until
she can go outside or until the night
512
00:28:59,510 --> 00:29:01,790
because it attacks her when she uses it.
513
00:29:02,050 --> 00:29:05,970
This breaks my heart because this is one
of those things where she's basically
514
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:07,710
saying no place is safe for me.
515
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,460
It made me feel really bad to hear him,
in his words, replay the fact that as an
516
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:17,480
abused cat, she's now being abused in my
home, albeit not by people, but by a
517
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,000
cat. And I felt really bad about that
and really want that to change.
518
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:27,940
As I was talking to Kevin and Megan, I
saw Chompy just dash from one side of
519
00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:31,940
room to the other. She was being stalked
by Bitten. And what she did, what she
520
00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:35,200
always does, she looks for a hiding
place. And this time, it was under the
521
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,200
couch.
522
00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:41,870
Now she's going under, and he's going to
follow her. I think that Bitten is a
523
00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:42,769
little play aggressive.
524
00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:46,310
He's a little boy. He likes to chase
things around, and he's finding a great
525
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:47,310
thing to chase around.
526
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:50,790
Chompy runs from him, and that's what's
causing a lot of this problem. The good
527
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:54,150
news, the silver lining, is that to me
it's not a dominant issue.
528
00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:55,810
It's, ooh, look at her move.
529
00:29:56,110 --> 00:29:58,630
Look at the way she, ooh, she moves like
a weasel.
530
00:29:58,850 --> 00:30:03,350
Ooh, she moves like a snake. I'm going
to go get her. And that's what we have
531
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:04,350
deal with.
532
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,200
If you guys are ready, I'm going to
start giving you homework.
533
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,620
All right. All right. The first thing
that I want to get into is switching up
534
00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:17,200
the team, which means I want you, for
instance, to start taking control of
535
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Chompy.
536
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,480
See?
537
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,740
You're right. I want you to be the one
taking charge of raising her self
538
00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:30,340
-esteem. Likewise, you get to be in
charge of Team Bitten, which is a little
539
00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:34,000
more about... getting his energy out in
a positive way. So the homework for
540
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,700
Kevin is I want him to play a lot with
Bitten because Bitten's energy has never
541
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:42,620
been expressed out of his body in any
other way but by chasing Chompy. At the
542
00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:47,320
same time, I want them blocking off
under the couch, under the bed, because
543
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,000
want to see Chompy moving through space
confidently. So every time Bitten looks
544
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,040
at Chompy, he sees more and more
confidence. He doesn't see a scared
545
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,040
doesn't chase her.
546
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,140
Also, making sure that the litter box is
not this huge ambush zone.
547
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,460
I basically want these guys to be able
to appreciate the other cats they have
548
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:09,140
their house because they're so willing
to give up on the other one. Bottom line
549
00:31:09,140 --> 00:31:10,960
is this. I want you guys to be one team.
550
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,120
That's our goal. Okay. And I think that
we're going to definitely start getting
551
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,200
there. Chompy has been abused in the
past.
552
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:22,670
And I think that she needs to find her
self -esteem within the house and with
553
00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:26,790
this family. And I think all the
assignments that I gave Megan and Kevin
554
00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:28,050
help in that respect.
555
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:33,110
But I'm still keeping it on the table
that one of these cats may need to leave
556
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:34,109
this home.
557
00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:37,070
Great to meet you. You too, man. Thanks
for coming. Thank you. All right. We'll
558
00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:38,390
talk to you soon. All right. Bye, guys.
559
00:31:44,659 --> 00:31:48,700
I'm heading in for my second visit with
Megan and Kevin and their cats, Chompy
560
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:49,700
and Bitten.
561
00:31:50,020 --> 00:31:53,920
Now, these two cats are at each other.
There's violence every single day, which
562
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,560
is a problem enough in itself, but there
is a one -year -old daughter in the
563
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,700
picture as well, and the parents are at
their end.
564
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:01,900
Hey, man.
565
00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:03,320
How are you? Good, yourself?
566
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,080
I'm good, I'm good. Hey, hey.
567
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,220
So, tell me, things are looking a little
better, maybe?
568
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600
Yeah. All right, talk about it. Let me
hear.
569
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,780
Well, since we started playing with
them, Bitten's really calmed down, and
570
00:32:16,780 --> 00:32:19,300
Chompy's coming out a bit more.
571
00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:24,000
For four days, their fights were cut in
half, like at least in half. Right on.
572
00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:29,760
Yeah. We have gone from five to six
major screaming matches a day, and the
573
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:35,460
of the time, having Bitten stalk Chompy,
gone except for maybe one fight between
574
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:38,480
the cats per day. That is a major bridge
that we've crossed.
575
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,800
I've got a bunch of...
576
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,780
video homework footage from you guys.
I'd like to go over it with you and
577
00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:44,780
take a look. Yeah? Okay.
578
00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:51,680
You gotta let go, bud.
579
00:32:52,420 --> 00:32:53,720
Hey, Benton, are you tired?
580
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,800
You panting a little bit, huh?
581
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:57,820
Are you playing with Benton, Quinn?
582
00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:01,880
Do you like it, Chompy?
583
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:03,920
Yeah, good girl, Chompy.
584
00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:08,960
Come on, Chompy.
585
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:17,770
So underneath, I put two by four, three,
the block on the underside, and this
586
00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:18,649
left side.
587
00:33:18,650 --> 00:33:19,650
Good work.
588
00:33:20,010 --> 00:33:21,010
Really nice.
589
00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:22,970
Got to see Kevin and Megan's video
homework.
590
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:26,850
The great stuff is there's great play
going on, not just with Bitten, but hey,
591
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:30,230
with Chompy as well. Chompy playing is a
big deal. Yeah, she wouldn't play
592
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:34,850
before. Here's where play becomes such
this fascinating thing, right? For
593
00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:38,650
Bitten, it's about draining off that
destructive energy. For her...
594
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,340
It's about raising up self -esteem.
595
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,820
One other thing that I really loved was
Quinn playing with Bitten because you're
596
00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:49,020
setting up a relationship between Quinn
and the cat.
597
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,080
And she's going to grow up with respect
for the cat, and it's really cool. All
598
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,960
in all, those were really wonderful
things to see. But you are still seeing
599
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,160
fights. You're still seeing some
arguments.
600
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,240
It's time to take a look around the
house again and see what they had and
601
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,240
done.
602
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,179
Okay, so now the last time I was here,
litter box was over there. Yeah.
603
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,739
What I'm seeing now, litter box over
here.
604
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:17,480
I still got a minor problem with it,
though.
605
00:34:18,659 --> 00:34:24,800
If I'm chompy and I'm in here and I'm
doing that, then
606
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:31,659
that sound alone is causing Bitten to
come in here. Sure enough, as I
607
00:34:31,659 --> 00:34:32,659
in the litter box.
608
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:33,800
Bitten came out of nowhere.
609
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,639
You see that? Yeah, see, look at that
face.
610
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,139
He's like, what are you doing in my
ball? Look at him. He doesn't even like
611
00:34:39,139 --> 00:34:41,400
in there. We have to change up that
sound altogether.
612
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:46,840
And my idea is that we try a completely
different type of litter. Oh. Because if
613
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,860
we could just change up the sound, then
we change up the association.
614
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,020
As I was standing there with Kevin and
Megan, I looked into Quinn's room. I see
615
00:34:57,020 --> 00:35:01,120
Chompy under the crib. So it was time to
go into Quinn's room and spend some
616
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,120
time with Chompy.
617
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,760
It's okay.
618
00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:08,160
Little chompy.
619
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Even though she was under the crib, I
felt really confident that with some
620
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,460
treats, I'd be able to pull her out.
621
00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:23,880
Little chompy.
622
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,840
Come on.
623
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Hi, girlfriend.
624
00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:32,000
Hi, girlfriend.
625
00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:35,210
Good girl.
626
00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:40,350
This is pretty amazing. I mean, the last
time I was here, she wouldn't have
627
00:35:40,350 --> 00:35:42,030
anything to do with me.
628
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:44,670
Oh.
629
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:46,970
I'm just shocked that she came out.
630
00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:49,450
Even with me, she wouldn't let me pet
her for very long.
631
00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:52,870
Right? Yeah, I know. Not bad.
632
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:54,270
Yeah.
633
00:35:56,430 --> 00:35:59,790
Chompy coming out from under the crib
and feeling comfortable around us was
634
00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:04,360
huge. Now our next goal is to get Bitten
and Chompy in the same room without
635
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,140
killing one another, and that's where
the circle game comes in. I want these
636
00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:13,500
guys moving in circles, but opposite
each other. The idea is I don't want her
637
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:17,660
even know that Bitten's in the room,
kind of. Chompy. Do you see how between
638
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:20,580
every treat she's still looking around,
she's still trying to figure out what's
639
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:25,940
going on, she's still a little hesitant?
Yeah. By the time I come back here, I
640
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:27,520
don't want to see any hesitance
whatsoever.
641
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:33,320
Chompy kept looking behind her. That was
her acting like prey again. Those are
642
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,820
the moments we have to eliminate all
together in order for these guys to ever
643
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:38,380
have a chance of living in peace
together.
644
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,120
You guys ready for some homework?
645
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,260
Yeah. All right. Now, the first thing is
I want you to continue the circle game.
646
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,840
The next thing, I don't want Chompy
going to the garage at night.
647
00:36:48,590 --> 00:36:52,750
We have tried bringing Chompy in
overnight, and it usually results in
648
00:36:52,750 --> 00:36:55,610
fights in the middle of the night. It
was like running through the house,
649
00:36:55,730 --> 00:37:00,070
growling, hissing, screaming kind of a
fight. So I am really not looking
650
00:37:00,070 --> 00:37:02,050
to having Chompy inside at night.
651
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:03,970
Bitten's big play session.
652
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:08,910
Let's space it about, I would say, an
hour to an hour and a half before you go
653
00:37:08,910 --> 00:37:13,550
to bed at night. Okay. I'm hoping to see
a more confident Chompy, you know, a
654
00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:16,950
cat that isn't going to hide and act
like this is her home.
655
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,060
I never thought about it until you just
said it right now, that Chompy does not
656
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:25,220
act like this is her home. She acts like
the garage and outside is her home.
657
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:28,440
Yeah. He's saying that really is like,
yeah, I'd really like to see that.
658
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,720
Remember, at the end of the day, I want
you to be able to spend more time with
659
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:35,180
Quinn without worrying about Kat and
Fight.
660
00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:39,550
And catfights. Yeah, there are some
miraculous changes going on in that
661
00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:43,870
But all it takes is one stare down, one
weird look, one time the chompy's
662
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:48,010
feeling a little edgy and run, and we're
back to square one. So I'm not sure at
663
00:37:48,010 --> 00:37:52,770
all how this is going to end unless
these guys stay 110 % vigilant.
664
00:37:52,990 --> 00:37:56,030
It was great to see you. You too. All
right. We'll talk to you soon. All
665
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:57,030
Jen. Bye -bye. Bye.
666
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,710
I'm going in for my final visit with
Megan and Kevin, Chompy and Bitten.
667
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:10,910
Now, these cats hate each other, but
there is a one -year -old daughter in
668
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:11,808
picture as well.
669
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:16,090
So I'm just hoping that the momentum
that we established from the last time I
670
00:38:16,090 --> 00:38:19,730
was here just continued because these
guys were doing well. There were just
671
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:23,050
backslides in terms of the violence. I
just want to see that completely over.
672
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:26,730
What is this?
673
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:30,560
I'm absolutely, I'm like, I'm blown away
right now. Yeah.
674
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:35,220
Chompy is out walking around, being a
part of everything, rubbing up against
675
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:36,560
legs, jumping up on the couch.
676
00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:41,820
Not the cat that I know. We did the
circle game and we noticed that Chompy
677
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:48,400
more intent on the toy. So then we
started playing with both of them in the
678
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,140
space at the same time.
679
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,040
And they would give each other the
respect.
680
00:38:53,260 --> 00:38:54,720
No aggression between them at all.
681
00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:56,860
It was none. No attacks.
682
00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:57,779
No attacks.
683
00:38:57,780 --> 00:38:58,618
No attacks.
684
00:38:58,620 --> 00:39:03,180
Yeah. When I first met Chompy, she was
invisible. As a matter of fact, I didn't
685
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:07,260
meet Chompy. I didn't meet Chompy until
the second time I came over here because
686
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,620
she was so petrified. She had no
confidence.
687
00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:14,740
She felt like she was going to get
attacked at all times. And to see her
688
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:18,580
around this room with all the self
-confidence in the world and this, I
689
00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:19,660
here. This is mine.
690
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:23,670
I knew that everything was going to be
okay. Keeping her in all the time, I
691
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:27,210
think, has really helped her to realize
that this is her house. Yeah. She is
692
00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:30,490
safe in it. And I think it helped Bitten
understand that, you know, this is her
693
00:39:30,490 --> 00:39:33,050
house, and she is here all the time, so
back off.
694
00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:35,450
The fact that Chompy...
695
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Doesn't have to sleep in the garage
anymore.
696
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,120
That's part of the reason why we're
seeing that cat today the way we are.
697
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,400
finally, in the words of Megan, home. Do
you feel differently towards Chompy at
698
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,720
this point? Oh, yeah. I love Chompy. How
are you feeling about Bitten? I
699
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,400
actually like Bitten now.
700
00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:51,740
Very nice.
701
00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:55,040
It's much nicer. And for you as well.
702
00:39:55,300 --> 00:40:00,260
Team Chompy, team Bitten no more. Makes
me very happy. Great. I can say that I
703
00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:02,080
love Bitten just as much as I love
Chompy now.
704
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:07,170
What else? Tell me what else.
705
00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:11,310
We changed cat litter, and she's been
able to use the box now.
706
00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:16,710
Bitten had a whole bunch of signals that
said it's time to attack Chompy. One of
707
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:20,630
those things was the litter. So my idea
was, let's get a different type of
708
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:24,530
litter that's not clay, so every time
that Chompy scratches, it doesn't make
709
00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:26,330
sound, and she gets to go in peace.
710
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:28,510
Team Bitten, Team Chompy, done.
711
00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:32,270
We don't have to worry about anything
anymore. These guys are a family now.
712
00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:33,570
is huge news.
713
00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:38,500
It makes me so happy to see her enjoy
the cat now. You know, she's really
714
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:39,920
developing a relationship with them.
715
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,300
Watch out for crazy chompy cat. They
feel like chompy is at home now. She
716
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,820
doesn't have to worry about being
attacked anymore by anyone or anything.
717
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,200
So it's so much nicer. Thank you so
much. Yeah. We were really at a loss.
718
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:58,040
we didn't know what to do. And honestly,
no offense, I thought you were a load
719
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,040
of BS.
720
00:41:00,009 --> 00:41:02,690
Obviously. You were talking all this
math before you got here. This guy's not
721
00:41:02,690 --> 00:41:03,690
going to do anything.
722
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:05,810
I'll take that. That's fine.
723
00:41:06,050 --> 00:41:08,770
But obviously, you definitely said that.
Shut up, Kevin.
724
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:15,310
Because I was completely wrong. You know
absolutely what you're talking about,
725
00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:19,370
and it 100 % surpassed any expectation I
could have had. Yeah.
726
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:23,970
Yeah. I mean, thank you. I really
appreciate it. You have given me time
727
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:27,070
with our daughter, you know? I mean, we
get to spend time with her.
728
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,280
And it's because of you and all of your
work. So we really, really, really do
729
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,160
appreciate it. You're absolutely
welcome.
730
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:41,160
Overall today, everything came together
in a way that you only fantasize about.
731
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,240
This is what I dream of, being able to
work with people who love their animals
732
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:47,620
and are just missing some tools.
733
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:52,120
I give them the tools, and that makes my
job something that I would do for the
734
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,680
rest of my life. Thank you for
everything.
735
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960
You're absolutely welcome.
736
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,820
Totally psyched to walk away right now
with this level of peace that we have.
737
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:01,540
Bye, guys. Bye. Thank you.
738
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,060
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