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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:07,440 There's a feud. It is cat versus dog. Her cat, Miley, tries to kill my dog. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,340 If Miley killed my dogs, I don't think my relationship would ever be repaired. 3 00:00:14,060 --> 00:00:17,200 First time I met Gracie, giving no warning at all. She just started hacking 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,760 But I warned you. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,980 Gracie's behavior is so bad, we've had cat sitters quit. 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,340 I tell my friends, if you think she's going to attack you, she is. So be ready 7 00:00:32,340 --> 00:00:33,740 for it. She's just a wild animal. 8 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:40,920 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 9 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:44,600 I'm a musician by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 10 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:47,880 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,420 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 12 00:00:54,860 --> 00:00:59,280 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 13 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:03,340 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,280 When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,100 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 16 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:13,840 her. I'm their last hope. 17 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Are you all right? 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,980 Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans? 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,480 Only have one. 20 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 I'm going over to see mother and daughter Melissa and Mariah. 21 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,040 Mariah's got a cat named Miley who is just destroying Melissa's two dogs. And 22 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,520 it's getting worse and worse every day. So I'm going to go over, see if I can... 23 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,640 repair the mother -daughter relationship. 24 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,699 Hi, Melissa. 25 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:03,460 And I'm Mariah. We live together with our two dogs, Makita and Madeline, and 26 00:02:03,460 --> 00:02:04,460 one cat, Miley. 27 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:08,820 Me and my mom are definitely best friends. We do almost everything 28 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,919 Miley is my cat. 29 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,560 Almost two years ago, we rescued her, and I love her to death. 30 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,160 The only problem is her cat, Miley, tries to kill my dog. 31 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:22,120 Miley just watches and waits for me to leave the room. 32 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,240 And then as soon as I leave the room, she attacks. 33 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:33,140 They're totally dependent on us, and then we bring this thing in that hurts 34 00:02:33,140 --> 00:02:36,400 them. She's not just a thing. It's not like she's intentionally trying to kill 35 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,460 them. I don't know if Miley's not intentionally trying to kill Madeline. 36 00:02:45,420 --> 00:02:48,900 I mean, it's not like it's her fault that she pounces. 37 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:50,900 I mean, she's a kitty. She's playing. 38 00:02:53,070 --> 00:02:58,070 I'm sick of all the fighting and bickering and nonsense over her not 39 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:59,870 Miley. Because she hurts my dog. 40 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:04,730 Moving out would be my only option if things don't change between Miley and 41 00:03:04,730 --> 00:03:05,730 dog. 42 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:10,510 To even have the thought of her leaving, you know, just breaks my heart. If 43 00:03:10,510 --> 00:03:14,950 Miley killed my dog, I don't think my relationship would ever be repaired. 44 00:03:15,590 --> 00:03:20,830 It's very important that Miley gets her behavior under control because I don't 45 00:03:20,830 --> 00:03:23,800 want. our relationship to be strained, and it is. It is strained. 46 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,820 We need Jackson to definitely come in and help solve all these problems. 47 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,220 Hey. Hi. 48 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,820 How are you? Good. 49 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:47,000 This is Madeline, and this is Makita. Hi, guys. And that's Miley. And that's 50 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,460 Miley in her box. Okay, we're good. Let's sit down and catch up. 51 00:03:51,150 --> 00:03:55,730 The first thing I noticed walking into the home was that we've got two dogs in 52 00:03:55,730 --> 00:03:58,650 little sundresses with their nails painted pink. 53 00:03:58,910 --> 00:04:02,030 Now, that's one of those button -pushing things for me. I don't like to see 54 00:04:02,030 --> 00:04:06,250 animals dressed up. I don't like to see anything done that is remotely against 55 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:07,250 their nature. 56 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:12,890 So, we've got Miley attacking both dogs or really just one? Well, she attacks 57 00:04:12,890 --> 00:04:14,090 both of them, but... 58 00:04:14,510 --> 00:04:18,870 Like I say, Makita protects herself and, you know, bites back. Right. Every time 59 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:21,390 that these two are left unattended, she attacks. 60 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:29,610 Couldn't help but notice, walking in here, we've got diapers and baby bottles 61 00:04:29,610 --> 00:04:30,589 and playpen. 62 00:04:30,590 --> 00:04:34,170 So to add to all of this, is there a baby? 63 00:04:35,570 --> 00:04:36,570 No. 64 00:04:37,250 --> 00:04:41,070 No, there's not a baby. We have the playpen to keep them separated. 65 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:44,590 Huh. We have to feed them with a bottle. We have to feed them with a fork 66 00:04:44,590 --> 00:04:46,930 because they won't eat because they're so scared of her. 67 00:04:47,450 --> 00:04:52,090 So you're saying because of Miley, they don't eat, drink, or go to the bathroom 68 00:04:52,090 --> 00:04:53,090 by themselves anymore? 69 00:04:53,330 --> 00:04:55,710 Right. I've never heard of that before. 70 00:04:56,350 --> 00:05:01,790 You know, like I say, I worry that she's going to kill him now. I just feel like 71 00:05:01,790 --> 00:05:06,710 they could fend for themselves more, but maybe they're a little bit babied. Is 72 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:07,970 that part of the arguments that you guys have? 73 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:11,070 Sometimes, yeah, because I think it gets a little ridiculous. 74 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:17,510 After getting all the lowdown on not just the dysfunction between the cat and 75 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:21,090 the dog, but between mother and daughter, it was time to start looking 76 00:05:21,090 --> 00:05:24,570 the home to see if there was anything that could be causing Miley's severe 77 00:05:24,570 --> 00:05:28,510 aggression. Diaper -wise, what makes you choose to have it on them? Well, during 78 00:05:28,510 --> 00:05:32,790 the day when I'm not taking them out, we put it on them just so they don't have 79 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:35,730 accidents in the house. And they're only because of Miley they never had. 80 00:05:36,090 --> 00:05:39,790 No. No, they would go to the door and scratch to go out. Right now, that's the 81 00:05:39,790 --> 00:05:41,990 big problem, is they're not going to the door and scratch. Yeah, they can't go 82 00:05:41,990 --> 00:05:44,770 to the door because they're scared Miley's going to come and attack them. 83 00:05:45,530 --> 00:05:50,670 And there's the stroller. I'm confused on this one, too. Look, put her in 84 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:56,790 When we put them in there and zip it up, they're safe from Miley. 85 00:05:57,010 --> 00:06:00,970 So when you're out on the street, you have the stroller as opposed to leashes. 86 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:03,650 Why? Because I don't want them to get germs. 87 00:06:05,230 --> 00:06:06,710 You mean like walking down the street? Sure. 88 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:09,050 Um, huh. 89 00:06:10,690 --> 00:06:13,430 Now listen, I'm used to strange. 90 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:15,330 I'm a cat behaviorist, remember? 91 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:18,010 But this is normal cat behaviorist work. 92 00:06:18,410 --> 00:06:23,910 And this is Melissa and Mariah's house up here. The bar has been set. Every 93 00:06:23,910 --> 00:06:27,670 I take a step through this house, I'm in a new world of weird. I mean, watching 94 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:28,670 these two dogs. 95 00:06:28,780 --> 00:06:31,600 sip off the baby bottle, get put in a stroller afterwards. 96 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,880 I want to run. 97 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Those are just some of Miley's toys that we travel with. A lot of tons. She 98 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,280 likes toilet paper rolls. 99 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,160 Let's see what we got going on here. 100 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:45,940 She's got like a bag of flies and a checker. They're not really like cat 101 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,240 Really? This is what your cat likes to play with? I so doubt that. 102 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:53,260 So, tell me about what goes on. 103 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:54,900 Did she pee? 104 00:06:55,060 --> 00:06:56,600 She peed on the car. Oh, my God. 105 00:06:57,020 --> 00:07:00,300 Ew. See, and the thing is, that makes me want to yell at Madeline. 106 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:04,240 Because if Miley gets yelled at for things, I feel like I should be able to 107 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,019 at her. 108 00:07:05,020 --> 00:07:06,840 It makes me very frustrated. 109 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:08,420 Okay, okay. 110 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,500 It's disgusting. 111 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Yeah. And then I yell at her about this, and then she says, it's because you're 112 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,699 a cat. 113 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:14,700 And I'm just like, no. 114 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:20,460 Correct me. I mean, I'm not seeing the connection between what just happened 115 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:23,740 Miley. Miley's nowhere to be found. Yeah, this is true. 116 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,280 Well, now it's just become a habit. 117 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Okay. 118 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:30,660 But you're seeing how that moment had nothing to do with Miley. 119 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,120 I did not agree with that because, you know, now they're not used to just 120 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,900 running to the door because they don't. It's habit now. Yeah, because they don't 121 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:40,860 run to the door. And that's why I'm frustrated. 122 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,520 And that's why they should have been yelled at today. 123 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,340 But it was my fault for not taking them out. 124 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,660 Hey, well, then you should have said you were sparring. So what happens when the 125 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:53,920 dogs are cornered? Does Makita fight back? 126 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Yeah, Makita does. She'll turn around and start nipping back at her and 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,580 growling. And thus, nothing happens. 128 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Right. 129 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:03,600 Madeline's confidence is gone. 130 00:08:03,980 --> 00:08:07,580 Part of that is that every time she looks at you, you pick her up, you hold 131 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:08,580 like a baby. 132 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,340 It was time to go back in the living room and let's put the dogs on the 133 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,380 Maybe there's a way to find out if there's bad behavior if the dogs are 134 00:08:15,380 --> 00:08:16,700 moving around like little targets. 135 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:20,320 Well, the thing was, every time we put the dogs on the floor, they were looking 136 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,260 to get back up again. So I had Melissa actually leave the room because I felt 137 00:08:24,260 --> 00:08:28,780 like a lot of that clingy behavior was being caused by Melissa just hovering. 138 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:33,280 One of the things I'm sort of suspecting with her, you can go. It's okay. 139 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:38,650 is that she's not getting the kind of play that she needs to get. And that's 140 00:08:38,650 --> 00:08:42,710 she's acting out on Madeline so much, because Madeline presents herself as a 141 00:08:42,710 --> 00:08:43,710 pretty cool toy. 142 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:45,390 Come here, baby. 143 00:08:45,750 --> 00:08:50,050 Now, what I'm trying to demonstrate here is every time I give her this choice, 144 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:52,990 she's like, what is this that I get to hunt? 145 00:08:53,330 --> 00:08:58,070 So it has nothing to do with Madeline. Here, you play for a second. I'm going 146 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:59,070 get your mom. 147 00:08:59,890 --> 00:09:05,330 Honey, did you miss me so much you didn't know what to do? 148 00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:07,210 Oh, okay. 149 00:09:10,030 --> 00:09:14,410 She's got tears in her eyes. You do. Did Miley get you? 150 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:18,130 Did Miley attack Madeline? 151 00:09:18,430 --> 00:09:19,430 Nobody attacked anybody. 152 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:23,970 I'm not lying to you. Look at the way you're holding your dog. Come on. 153 00:09:24,270 --> 00:09:25,670 Come on out. Okay. 154 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:28,530 Did you assume that something was going to happen? 155 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,100 Yeah. Okay, well, go ahead and put her down. 156 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Here we go, man. 157 00:09:32,940 --> 00:09:33,940 Here we go. 158 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:36,020 Is this how you normally handle her? 159 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:39,140 I just hold her, and then she does this. See? 160 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,660 Ow, ow. This. 161 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Why are you still holding your cat? 162 00:09:43,580 --> 00:09:45,320 Because she's having fun. 163 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:46,660 No, she's not. 164 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,520 That's not fun. 165 00:09:49,140 --> 00:09:50,480 That's getting me off. 166 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,540 You're getting beat up because she just doesn't want to be held like that, like 167 00:09:55,540 --> 00:09:56,199 a baby. 168 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,380 Well, if we can't hold her. Yeah. 169 00:09:58,830 --> 00:10:00,110 then how are we going to love her? 170 00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:04,910 I don't care whether it's dog or cat. In Melissa or Mariah's house, they don't 171 00:10:04,910 --> 00:10:09,670 get animals. They don't get any of it. They are trying to put these animals in 172 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:12,910 little baby -shaped boxes, and it's not going to work. 173 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:17,430 Now, the first thing I got to tell you, from what I'm seeing, is you got a 174 00:10:17,430 --> 00:10:18,430 pretty normal cat. 175 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:24,530 What I did see was a lot of sort of animal handling dysfunction, things like 176 00:10:24,530 --> 00:10:27,390 that, that I think that will set up the problem. 177 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:29,640 All that being said, I want to get to your homework. 178 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,140 The first thing is we have to start challenging the dogs, and that means not 179 00:10:34,140 --> 00:10:36,040 really treating them like babies anymore. 180 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:39,900 Also, we're going to put them on the ground and start challenging them with 181 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:43,300 cat. Now, I'm not a dog behaviorist, but I've got to tell you one thing. 182 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:47,440 Madeline has to be on the floor moving around, trying to find some self 183 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,540 -confidence, and that, standing up to Miley, will mean that she won't get beat 184 00:10:51,540 --> 00:10:52,540 up. 185 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:53,980 What's going on? 186 00:10:56,110 --> 00:10:59,050 Do you not like the idea of challenging? 187 00:10:59,350 --> 00:11:02,610 No, I think it's a great idea. I just hope that they can actually do it. 188 00:11:02,830 --> 00:11:03,789 These guys? 189 00:11:03,790 --> 00:11:06,110 I think that it's less about them. 190 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:10,210 I mean, I think that your fear is pretty pervasive right now. 191 00:11:11,970 --> 00:11:17,990 So the cat part of things, no more hand play at all. That's all encouraging her 192 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:21,750 to do damage to you. All that is, is play aggression. 193 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:23,810 Play aggression is... 194 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:30,930 play for a cat is prey they are born to kill stuff all we can do is give 195 00:11:30,930 --> 00:11:36,570 them alternate outlets so the toy that i gave you is just a start all right guys 196 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:40,970 thank you you're welcome good to meet you guys my biggest fear i would say is 197 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:45,430 that it'll all fail and then i'll have to leave or something i'm really 198 00:11:45,430 --> 00:11:46,730 on all this to work so 199 00:11:48,350 --> 00:11:51,570 There's a lot of work that's got to be done here, and it's not just about cats 200 00:11:51,570 --> 00:11:55,150 either. It's about dogs, and it's about humans too. And Melissa and Mariah have 201 00:11:55,150 --> 00:11:57,110 got to know that they're part of the problem. 202 00:11:57,430 --> 00:12:00,270 Did you miss me? It's clear I've got my work cut out for me. 203 00:12:03,710 --> 00:12:07,730 I'm going in for my second visit with mother and daughter Melissa and Mariah, 204 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:12,130 whose two dogs have been terrorized by Mariah's cat, Miley. 205 00:12:13,710 --> 00:12:14,710 Hey. Hello. 206 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:18,730 Now, what I'm hoping is there's been a little bit of understanding going on 207 00:12:18,730 --> 00:12:23,030 Melissa's end because she was terrified before, overprotective of the dogs, and 208 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:24,470 I'm hoping for just a little bit of improvement. 209 00:12:24,770 --> 00:12:25,770 So what's going on? 210 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:30,370 Well, as far as the homework goes, she very much enjoyed the toy. 211 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:32,650 Wow, nice going, little one. 212 00:12:32,910 --> 00:12:36,950 I know that part of the homework last time was for you not to be carrying them 213 00:12:36,950 --> 00:12:38,150 around. Right. 214 00:12:38,350 --> 00:12:39,390 Is that happening? 215 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:42,780 Yeah. You're not carrying the dogs around? I'm trying not to carry them 216 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:45,140 You're trying not to. No, no, no. Tell me, are you carrying the dogs around? 217 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:46,140 I'm really not. 218 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,340 I feel like you're not being honest with me. 219 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,920 There's no way I can help you if you don't tell me what's really going on. 220 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,580 tell me the truth, and we'll make it work. 221 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:58,240 But you tell me right now, spoon feeding, bottle feeding isn't happening 222 00:12:58,740 --> 00:13:02,320 I didn't bottle feed, but I have fed them with pork sometimes. 223 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,520 They don't want to go back over there and eat after Miley attacks them. 224 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:08,920 The bottom line here is in order. 225 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:14,860 To make you, and I'm looking squarely at you, the way to make you feel okay 226 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:18,200 about this is to trust that cat. 227 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,720 I don't trust her. 228 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:21,740 Okay, so that's what we're going to work on. 229 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:26,220 She is not here to hunt and kill these two. 230 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:32,140 When I see Miley jumping on Madeline, I see play. I see play behavior. I see 231 00:13:32,140 --> 00:13:36,300 prey behavior. Remember, if you act like prey, you're going to get treated like 232 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:37,300 prey. 233 00:13:37,310 --> 00:13:41,570 But the attacks really are bad when she does it. Like, they really are. Let's 234 00:13:41,570 --> 00:13:42,570 take a look. 235 00:13:46,090 --> 00:13:50,670 That is just unexpected. 236 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:54,970 And more importantly, what if I wasn't home? What if I wasn't home and Miley 237 00:13:54,970 --> 00:13:55,970 that to Madeline? 238 00:13:56,010 --> 00:13:58,450 Now, first of all, I'm seeing play. 239 00:13:58,690 --> 00:13:59,690 That's play behavior. 240 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,040 It really upset me when Jackson referred to Miley attacking Madeline as play 241 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,080 aggression because it's not fun and games. It's Madeline's life we're 242 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,660 about. It's not fair for her to have to be scared in her own home. 243 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:19,280 I felt really bad looking over at Melissa and watching her tear up and say 244 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,700 these are attacks and this is terrible to see. But it occurred to me on another 245 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:27,920 level that not only do you not understand your cat, you don't even like 246 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:31,210 I have a chance to talk to a small dog expert. 247 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:35,190 So I'm actually going to bow out of here for just a second and go talk and see 248 00:14:35,190 --> 00:14:37,950 if I can get any more information that will help us out here, okay? Okay. Give 249 00:14:37,950 --> 00:14:38,929 me a few minutes. 250 00:14:38,930 --> 00:14:42,470 Look, I'm the cat guy. I'm not a dog guy. So I decided to call a small dog 251 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:46,250 specialist who I've worked with before to help me get Madeline's self 252 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:49,790 -confidence up so that Molly won't see her as prey and beat her up. I need to 253 00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:51,190 take them out real quick. I'll be right back. 254 00:14:51,490 --> 00:14:52,910 Now, you work with small dogs, yeah? 255 00:14:53,790 --> 00:14:55,070 I do. That's my specialty. 256 00:14:55,570 --> 00:14:56,730 Come on, sis. Go inside now. 257 00:14:56,950 --> 00:14:57,950 Come on, girl. 258 00:14:58,010 --> 00:15:02,510 I'm just wondering, you know, a lot of the people who have small dogs tend to 259 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,290 just carry them around excessively. 260 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:08,790 Don't you think that that might actually reduce their confidence just a bit? 261 00:15:09,090 --> 00:15:12,930 Yes, and it actually makes the dog overly protective towards the person. 262 00:15:13,130 --> 00:15:16,430 So if they walk, just encourage them with lots of grace. 263 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:18,690 All right, Jackie. Thank you so much. 264 00:15:18,910 --> 00:15:19,950 Glad to help you. Anytime. 265 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:21,250 All right. We'll talk to you soon. 266 00:15:22,190 --> 00:15:27,290 What is going on here? 267 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,640 After my conversation with Jackie, the dog expert, I went back to the apartment 268 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,120 and was completely blown away to see Melissa washing her dog's paws in the 269 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,300 thing. Now, instead of them wearing diapers, we just take them out every 30 270 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:46,460 minutes. So every 30 minutes, you're going out, you're doing this, and 271 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:47,259 gets washed. 272 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:48,260 Oh, my God. 273 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,740 Melissa tells me the dogs aren't wearing diapers anymore. Why? Because she's 274 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:56,480 taking them out every 30 minutes to go pee. Now, that's just swapping. 275 00:15:56,830 --> 00:15:59,970 One dysfunctional playing card for another one. That doesn't work. 276 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:02,050 There's something that I have to admit. 277 00:16:02,390 --> 00:16:04,270 To make her calm. 278 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:06,370 Okay, I gotta see it. Go ahead. 279 00:16:08,930 --> 00:16:12,630 There you go. 280 00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:14,010 She's pissed. 281 00:16:15,370 --> 00:16:16,510 She's not the only one. 282 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:21,330 You're saying that that makes her... Calm down. 283 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:23,250 That's not calm. 284 00:16:26,180 --> 00:16:31,160 You hear that growl? That is the only time that I've heard that cat growl 285 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,160 I've been here. 286 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:39,040 Mariah puts this dress on Miley, and she clearly is miserable. She hates it. 287 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,220 She's growling. She's scratching and biting. You are the voice of your 288 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,480 They can't speak English. They can't say with language, I don't want to be 289 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,560 dressed up. So if they struggle the way Miley was clearly struggling, it's your 290 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,740 job as a guardian to listen. 291 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:54,600 Want to give you your homework? 292 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,520 The one thing that I asked you to do last time that you are just not doing is 293 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,859 not that, is letting her walk around the world. If Madeline doesn't find her 294 00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:08,440 confidence, she will be picked on, she will be beat up, you're going to be 295 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,440 crazed and upset. 296 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:14,900 Beyond that, I want you to train her a couple of simple things. The sit, maybe 297 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:19,300 paw, reward her. The specialist told me that praise and treat works fantastic 298 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:20,300 with these guys. 299 00:17:20,579 --> 00:17:22,800 Now, just to give you some more work. Okay. 300 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:24,520 Play with the cat. 301 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,180 I can't have you finish playing with her until she is literally on her side 302 00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:34,540 panting. Otherwise, they're going to look for inappropriate victims. 303 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:40,320 Also, divvied up. The reason I wanted to give you playtime with the cat is 304 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,220 because I need you to start learning her language. 305 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:47,740 In order to solve problems that people have with their cats, I teach them to 306 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:51,520 appreciate and maybe to love them a lot more than they do right now. That's what 307 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,460 Cat Mojo is all about. That's my job with Melissa right now. 308 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,620 I come back here, these guys are walking the ground, challenges have been met, 309 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,520 and let's try to work through it. 310 00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:05,780 I am slightly worried that my mom won't stop bathing the dogs because I know 311 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:07,400 it's going to be very, very hard for her. 312 00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:12,800 But hopefully she'll be able to do it because she'll see that by letting go, 313 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:14,040 it's going to benefit us all. 314 00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:16,480 But I think it'll be really hard, definitely. 315 00:18:17,740 --> 00:18:19,420 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 316 00:18:20,540 --> 00:18:22,380 What do you call someone afraid of cats? 317 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:25,250 A. Ilerophobic, B. 318 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:27,010 Cataphobic, or C. 319 00:18:27,670 --> 00:18:30,350 Gamaphobic? The answer, after the break. 320 00:18:33,230 --> 00:18:35,230 What do you call someone afraid of cats? 321 00:18:35,610 --> 00:18:37,750 And the answer is A. 322 00:18:38,110 --> 00:18:44,310 The word Ilerophobic comes from the Greek words Ileros, cat, and Phobos, 323 00:18:48,990 --> 00:18:52,850 I'm going in for my final visit with... mother and daughter, Melissa and Mariah, 324 00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:56,530 their dog, Makita and Madeline, and the cat, Miley. 325 00:18:56,730 --> 00:19:01,290 I was expecting and hoping to see two dogs greeting me at the door, acting 326 00:19:01,290 --> 00:19:04,070 dogs, wagging their tails, hi, how you doing, the way dogs do. 327 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:08,750 Instead, I walked in and for the third time, Melissa was holding them, stood up 328 00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:11,270 to greet me, couldn't shake my hand because she had an armful of dogs. 329 00:19:11,890 --> 00:19:14,530 So tell me, how's life? 330 00:19:15,650 --> 00:19:17,270 Great. I like that. 331 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:20,170 Madeline has gained self -confidence. 332 00:19:20,730 --> 00:19:25,010 And not only did she growl several times at Miley, she tried to bite Miley. 333 00:19:27,730 --> 00:19:28,730 That's amazing. 334 00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:33,430 Amazing. I just decided, you know, to use your tips. We taught her tricks in 335 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:37,710 trying to build her self -confidence. We would practice many times a day, and 336 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:40,650 Mariah would help me, and, you know, just like a child would give Madeline 337 00:19:40,650 --> 00:19:41,650 positive reinforcement. 338 00:19:42,010 --> 00:19:43,250 Down. Down. 339 00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:44,469 Down, Fred. 340 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:46,930 You have to say the same word every time. 341 00:19:47,290 --> 00:19:48,290 Girlfriend. 342 00:19:48,590 --> 00:19:52,050 And it did. It builds her self -esteem enough where now she can protect 343 00:19:53,170 --> 00:19:56,990 And she's been playing with Miley. You've been playing with Miley. We've 344 00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:58,750 bonding. We have been bonding. 345 00:20:00,110 --> 00:20:01,110 Really, 346 00:20:03,690 --> 00:20:07,970 I want to stop for a second and acknowledge you, Melissa, because these 347 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:13,370 challenges. And you're really taking the bull by the horns here. What happened 348 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:16,210 between the last time I was here and this time? 349 00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:17,830 Because it's a huge change. 350 00:20:18,490 --> 00:20:23,390 I didn't want Madeline to have to live out the rest of her life, you know, in 351 00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:25,090 pain and in fear of Miley. 352 00:20:25,450 --> 00:20:29,770 Melissa and Mariah were telling me about Madeline's spike in self -confidence, 353 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:33,350 so I asked her to put them down on the ground again and let's see them interact 354 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:35,750 with Miley so we can see how things actually are. 355 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:42,950 And at that moment, Madeline thought, wait a minute, this is okay. 356 00:20:43,470 --> 00:20:48,090 And then Miley made that move towards the toy, and it was inches. 357 00:20:48,490 --> 00:20:49,490 for Madeline's faith. 358 00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:53,370 There we go. 359 00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:54,970 Look at that. 360 00:20:55,070 --> 00:20:56,750 Madeline didn't even blink. 361 00:20:57,030 --> 00:21:00,670 Kind of a cool thing when you think about it, when you have that one moment 362 00:21:00,670 --> 00:21:05,690 Miley gets to make the choice between dog and toy, and suddenly she chooses 363 00:21:05,890 --> 00:21:11,790 There wasn't this payoff, which equaled, I go for the dog, and she squeals and 364 00:21:11,790 --> 00:21:16,230 runs, and that's because Madeline's self -confidence has been raised, and... 365 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,700 Miley's getting proper playtime now, too. The dynamic has changed. Dog 366 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:21,700 equal toy anymore. 367 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:23,940 Madeline's not looking at you, Melissa. 368 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,840 She's not looking to be rescued by anybody right now. And look at Miley. 369 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,520 looking over here. She doesn't care. 370 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,560 This is why I came over here. The cherry on top, as far as I'm concerned, is 371 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,260 that you know that nobody's going to die right now. Right. 372 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,880 There's an equal chance that when I go to a case, I'm going to be working with 373 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,000 cats more or I'm going to be working with humans more. This case was 374 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,500 more on the human side. I was here really to help Melissa. 375 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,020 Now she can have a relationship with the dogs, relationship with the cat, and 376 00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:59,260 relationship with her daughter. That, to me, was the biggest win that we've had. 377 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,840 I'm on my way. 378 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,040 Okay, thank you. 379 00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:05,730 I'd like to tell Jackson thank you for saving my family. I was so worried that 380 00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:10,070 Miley and Mariah were going to have to split, but now we can all live together 381 00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:11,970 in harmony, and that's what I wanted. 382 00:22:12,290 --> 00:22:14,050 All right, bye -bye. Bye. 383 00:22:16,330 --> 00:22:19,890 First time I met Gracie, she gave me no warning at all. She just started 384 00:22:19,890 --> 00:22:20,890 attacking me. 385 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:22,230 But I warned you. 386 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:27,350 I tell my friends, if you think she's going to attack you, she is. 387 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:29,430 She's just a wild animal. 388 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:33,849 What's up, Gracie? 389 00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:35,130 Yeah, that feels good. 390 00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:46,750 I'm heading over right now to Kristen and Lay's house to see Kristen's cat, 391 00:22:47,030 --> 00:22:49,510 Gracie. Now, Gracie is so aggressive. 392 00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:52,210 They can't go on vacations because testers quit. 393 00:22:53,290 --> 00:22:57,370 They can't have friends and family come over because Gracie stalks and attacks 394 00:22:57,370 --> 00:22:59,130 them. They're being held hostage. 395 00:22:59,370 --> 00:23:02,430 I'm going to go over right now to see if maybe I can negotiate a hostage. 396 00:23:05,549 --> 00:23:06,549 I'm Kristen. 397 00:23:06,750 --> 00:23:07,549 I'm Lay. 398 00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:09,290 And we've been together for a year and a half. 399 00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:12,250 We met on a hike. 400 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:17,010 I had no gear. I had no water, no drinks, no snacks, no jacket. 401 00:23:17,450 --> 00:23:20,230 I had the wine and the marshmallows, right? That's all that mattered. And the 402 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:21,230 vodka. And the vodka. 403 00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:26,710 I have a cat, Gracie. She's a Burmese, and she's six years old. 404 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:31,550 One of the things I really liked about Lay when we first started dating is that 405 00:23:31,550 --> 00:23:34,150 he didn't seem to be afraid of Gracie. Oh, very brave. 406 00:23:34,410 --> 00:23:38,250 Until I met his sister for the first time, and one of the first things she 407 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,550 to me was, oh, I hear you have a totally crazy cat. 408 00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:42,910 And I looked at him like, oh, do I? 409 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:47,830 First time I met Gracie, she was the very sweet to cute cat. 410 00:23:48,050 --> 00:23:50,930 And then, giving no warning at all, she just started hacking me. 411 00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:53,910 But I warned you. 412 00:23:54,570 --> 00:23:55,570 Okay, come on. 413 00:23:57,100 --> 00:24:03,040 Some of her favorite locations to attack are she hides underneath the table 414 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,420 where the television is. 415 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,720 Gracie's behavior is so bad, we've had cat sitters quit. 416 00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:17,240 Basically, when they're here alone, they have called me begging me to 417 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,220 come home because they're trapped in the spare bedroom because Gracie is 418 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:22,220 stalking them. 419 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,000 Attacked through the sweater. 420 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,900 Some of my friends, we've had a falling out because of Gracie. 421 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,300 I tell my friends, if you think she's going to attack you, she is, and be 422 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:39,380 for it. But people aren't saying that he's dating the crazy cat lady. 423 00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:41,520 My sister said that, and your friends say that. 424 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:44,880 I would also say that Gracie is crazy. 425 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:51,380 I'm sure Jackson is very, very good, but it just seems impossible for Gracie to 426 00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:53,460 be trained at this point. She's just a wild animal. 427 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,479 Hi. Hi. 428 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,480 How are you guys? 429 00:25:01,660 --> 00:25:03,040 I'm so glad you're here. I'm Chris. 430 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,740 I'm Leigh. Nice to meet you. Leigh. Good to meet you guys. Have a seat. Thank 431 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:07,740 you very much. 432 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,620 So tell me the story of Gracie. I met someone five years ago who had 433 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:18,580 at the shelter where I adopted her from, and she said they all knew that Gracie 434 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:23,620 was crazy and that two other people had already adopted her and returned her. 435 00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:28,920 So basically what they did to this cat over and over was give her that sense of 436 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,740 security, ditch her back out on the street again, and basically all you're 437 00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:36,900 is postponing killing this cat. I'm glad that she found a home with somebody 438 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,320 like Chris who said, no, I won't return this cat. 439 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:45,240 When she's being really aggressive, I've tried putting her in a timeout. When 440 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,180 Gracie's energetically puffed out, prowling, keeping you at bay, putting 441 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:50,780 the bathroom in a timeout's okay. 442 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:56,840 I've had five different cat sitters, and they've all quit. Are you kidding me? 443 00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:58,160 Yeah, I just quit in the middle of our vacation. 444 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,020 Quit in the middle of my vacation. 445 00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:04,040 A cat's supposed to be emotional support, upliftment. They're supposed to 446 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,060 company. They're not supposed to be... 447 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,260 guards that keep the rest of the world at bay. It's got to affect your 448 00:26:10,260 --> 00:26:11,400 relationship somehow, right? 449 00:26:11,860 --> 00:26:14,080 No, I'm not worried about that at all. 450 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,520 I wouldn't say I'm mad. You're great. 451 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:21,960 I like watching you think because I can see you ticking. 452 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,500 Shouldn't I be worried, dear? 453 00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,380 You shouldn't be worried yet. 454 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,400 Initially, Chris thought that I was not affected by Gracie, but in fact, I'm 455 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,160 trying to put up that front, and if I can't deal with Gracie, we can't 456 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,860 Yeah, I guess you'd have to hit the road. 457 00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:41,780 Yeah. 458 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,620 Getting rid of Gracie is not an option, so... Okay. My goal for you 459 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:52,340 guys is you'll be able to have people over here. 460 00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:53,860 I want you to be able to entertain. 461 00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:58,140 That's the most important thing for us, to be able to welcome people into our 462 00:26:58,140 --> 00:27:00,200 home. This is no way to live with a cat. 463 00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:04,220 This can't happen. You can't have a cat in your life who's going to kick 464 00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:08,780 everyone else out. And I know that Lay will go to a place eventually where he 465 00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:10,540 will say, I've had it, I'm gone. 466 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,860 Oh, look, she's here. She seems so peaceful right now. 467 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,760 The time had really come for me to spend time with Gracie and see if this cat is 468 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,060 really crazy or not. 469 00:27:22,290 --> 00:27:26,590 Why? What I want to find out right away, is there a possession aggression 470 00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:28,490 problem? Hi, baby. 471 00:27:28,790 --> 00:27:32,230 I found out really quickly. The answer was yes. 472 00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:38,090 Possession aggression is something that I call that energy of this is all mine. 473 00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:41,250 And it leads to violence if somebody invades that space. 474 00:27:41,450 --> 00:27:45,330 I want to see what it's like to have her in the room with me without you guys 475 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,950 here. So I'm going to be your guest. 476 00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:49,310 Okay. 477 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:53,420 It was time for me to ask them to leave so that I could actually have some real 478 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:55,020 one -on -one time with Gracie. 479 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,360 All right, Gracie. 480 00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:58,400 I know, girl. 481 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:03,880 What? Gracie takes up a spot right in the middle of the bed, and I join her. I 482 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,880 sit right next to her. 483 00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:05,980 Hi. 484 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000 What's going on? 485 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:09,740 Okay. 486 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,880 Okay, babe. 487 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,920 Okay, babe. 488 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,460 She beat up my arm pretty good. 489 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,200 She didn't let me put my arm next to her. She didn't let me put a hand out. I 490 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,720 had to sit like this, like a good boy. 491 00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:25,960 I'm not going anywhere, man. 492 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,160 Gracie being a Burmese. 493 00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:37,700 It's just like all the other oriental breeds. They're talkers. And so she was 494 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,680 actually telling me the whole time, if you put your hand down there right 495 00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:43,800 I'm going to beat you up. You're making me mad. You're making, oh, I told you. 496 00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:47,500 So it wasn't like it came out of the blue. She was letting me know the entire 497 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:53,080 time, if you do this, I'm going to do that. And I was dumb enough to do this. 498 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,240 And she was smart enough to do that. 499 00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:58,160 Oh, my gosh, what's that? 500 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,140 Gracie 100 % startled me. And I don't get startled easily. So what did I do? 501 00:29:03,550 --> 00:29:04,550 I broke out treats. 502 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:05,910 You smell it? 503 00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:10,070 Ooh. 504 00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:15,070 Oh, what is that? 505 00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:17,030 Oh, I know. 506 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:18,830 If you... 507 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,500 Listen, I worked at a shelter for a long time. 508 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,860 I'm telling you, Gracie could have easily been put to sleep because of a 509 00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:49,860 behavior problem. 510 00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:55,340 But at that one moment, when Gracie took that treat out of my hand with a soft 511 00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:59,780 mouth, I said, well, wait a minute. She's reacting like a normal cat. 512 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,180 And that was pretty amazing because that, in a nutshell, told me this is no 513 00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:06,059 crazy cat. 514 00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:07,140 You want to play with me? 515 00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:11,020 Oh, yes, you do. 516 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:13,300 Good girl. 517 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,780 Gracie is possessive in part because of her past. 518 00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:19,640 She has no sense of belonging anywhere. 519 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:24,440 So what we're going to use is play to redirect and soften that focus. 520 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,100 Let me tell you a few things. My gut is telling me that she's not. 521 00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:32,970 Crazy. She's exhibiting to me a number of different types of aggression. 522 00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:34,330 We have play aggression. 523 00:30:34,590 --> 00:30:38,770 Play aggression is when your ankles get it. If a cat wants to do damage to you, 524 00:30:38,850 --> 00:30:43,550 they will do what's called a kill bite. If they want to just play around, that's 525 00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:45,610 the motion you're going to see. You are a toy. 526 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:50,290 Then we have possession aggression. The hostage taking that goes on here seems 527 00:30:50,290 --> 00:30:51,650 to be all based around that. 528 00:30:51,910 --> 00:30:53,910 So let's get down to your homework. 529 00:30:54,490 --> 00:30:57,830 With the play aggression, we're going to block off the underside of that TV 530 00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:01,650 stand. You can't get to it, whether that's changing the stand itself or 531 00:31:01,650 --> 00:31:02,409 it off completely. 532 00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:04,970 And then the other end of that equation is that. 533 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,280 Actual play has to happen. Right now, all of Gracie's energy is focused on 534 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,580 possession, and that's what's got to change. So part of Kristen and Leigh's 535 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:16,780 homework is to use play to get her to redirect that energy. Why? 536 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:21,360 Because as she hunts the toy, catches it, and kills it, she owns the whole 537 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,040 place. She doesn't have to guard one area because the whole area is hers. Let 538 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040 show you what else you can do. 539 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,300 This is called... 540 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,259 Bully remedy. 541 00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:31,160 It's just a holistic flower essence remedy. 542 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,380 It's something that you guys can give her. It just goes in her wet food, and 543 00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:37,020 just helps keep her calm. 544 00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:41,780 Okay, so this timeout is still okay. If she goes out of control, timeout is 545 00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:42,699 totally okay. 546 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:46,220 Chris and Leia's homework involves touching on every part of the 547 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:49,260 want them to start to know Gracie's body a little bit better. When is she 548 00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:50,260 getting aggressive? 549 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,420 Proactive, not reactive. 550 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480 At the end of the day, I want you guys to be able to have guests here again. 551 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,440 That's our goal, right? One of the things that concern me the most is the 552 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,860 that besides Lay, there's nobody. 553 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,080 If he leaves, everyone's gone out of Chris's life because of Gracie. So I 554 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,860 to keep him in this house. It was great meeting you. Thank you so much. Thank 555 00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:11,200 you so much. I will talk to you soon, right? 556 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,080 Thank you so much. Bye. 557 00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:14,380 I am hopeful. 558 00:32:14,910 --> 00:32:19,990 Skeptical still, but I'm here and I'm ready and willing to do this work 559 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:22,590 Gracie is my cat forever. 560 00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:26,870 So I'm going to have to find a way to make this work. 561 00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:36,490 I'm on my way to see Chris and Lay and their cat Gracie again. 562 00:32:36,770 --> 00:32:41,310 Gracie is so aggressive. They can't go on vacation because cat sitters quit. 563 00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:43,990 they can't have friends or family come over to their house. 564 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,209 Not acceptable. 565 00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:49,890 So I want to see Gracie a little mellowed out, not waiting to hurt me. 566 00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:50,669 would be a start. 567 00:32:50,670 --> 00:32:51,629 Welcome back. 568 00:32:51,630 --> 00:32:52,730 Thank you very much. 569 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:53,950 How are things? 570 00:32:54,290 --> 00:32:55,290 They're better. 571 00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:58,050 They're definitely a lot better. Good. We've definitely played with Gracie a 572 00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:01,570 more. I think that definitely got to calm down a little bit. Just with 573 00:33:01,570 --> 00:33:03,730 strangers, I think we haven't had many strangers over. 574 00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:08,390 They're still acting in fear of Gracie, and it's still preventing them from 575 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:12,050 having friends over, and I don't like it, especially where we are today, the 576 00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:14,190 halfway point. I'd like to see better progress. 577 00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:19,030 Now, I've got some of the video homework that you guys made for me, and I want 578 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:20,030 to watch it with you. 579 00:33:21,670 --> 00:33:22,770 Get it, Gracie, get it. 580 00:33:23,030 --> 00:33:24,030 There you go. 581 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:28,310 Gracie, get off the table. 582 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:31,510 I just put Gracie in timeout. 583 00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:36,720 She jumped up on the kitchen table, which is a no -no. The play that I'm 584 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,460 Leigh do on that homework, fantastic. What I didn't like was why Chris is 585 00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:43,600 putting Gracie into timeout. 586 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,060 Let's redefine detention. 587 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:47,640 When you're throwing a temper tantrum... Mm -hmm. 588 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160 I just want you to settle back in your skin. So when she gets on the kitchen 589 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,400 table ten times, you don't put her in detention? 590 00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:58,880 No. The only thing that we can do is we do an exercise where we have sticky tape 591 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040 that's put on the top of the table so every time she jumps up, it's like, oh, 592 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,779 what's this? 593 00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:06,940 When I told them they could put her in timeout, that meant letting her 594 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:12,800 decompress, not punishing. It just showed me how far away Chris and Leigh 595 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,920 from understanding Gracie. So I got my work cut out for me. First time I was 596 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,250 here. We identified this as being her main little ambush zone. 597 00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:27,770 What we've actually done is we've moved the boxes on the side way back so that 598 00:34:27,770 --> 00:34:32,489 she can get back in there. So now she has a new spot, which is right here with 599 00:34:32,489 --> 00:34:36,170 the ottoman in front of the chair. Yeah, so normally it's like this. And she 600 00:34:36,170 --> 00:34:37,770 paws one of us or scratches. 601 00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:42,719 She'll just run and just... Hide under there. The ottoman makes no sense to me. 602 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,460 Why would Gracie go under that chair to ambush people when it's in the center of 603 00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:48,158 the room? 604 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,719 Okay, she'll tag you and run. 605 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,540 Yeah, sometimes I'm here petting her, and she'll run and get down here. Hiding 606 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,719 there after she's attacked. 607 00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:57,180 Well, okay. 608 00:34:57,580 --> 00:35:00,080 Which is a little bit better, I think. Important distinction. 609 00:35:00,340 --> 00:35:05,300 Well, she hid. That's different from ambushing. That counts as her own self 610 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:09,060 -imposed timeout. Okay. Basically, all it is is hit. 611 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:14,630 Run. Get back in my skin. What she was actually trying to do was decompress, 612 00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:18,490 I wanted them to know that's the difference between ambushing and 613 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:23,610 As long as she has proper outlets for her energy, you're going to see her 614 00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:27,230 herself when she's getting worked up. As I was standing and talking to Kristen 615 00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:31,110 Leigh in the living room, I basically just was looking at Kristen's face as 616 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:35,130 went, Hi, baby. 617 00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:40,690 She's here with you with us. She's not hiding out. This position that she's in 618 00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:44,150 right now, that is exactly what we're looking for. We're looking for her to be 619 00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:48,050 part of this without looking to spring out and attack. 620 00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:52,170 The first time I was here, Gracie exhibited a lot of possession 621 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:54,970 matter of fact, she wouldn't even let me sit on the same bed with her without 622 00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:56,150 getting severely attacked. 623 00:36:00,049 --> 00:36:03,810 Now, this time I was talking to Chris and Lay, and Gracie just jumped up on 624 00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:07,970 back of the couch, completely ignored me. That's a major step in the right 625 00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:11,330 direction. And I needed to point out to Chris and Lay, this is what you get for 626 00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:12,330 following your homework. 627 00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:15,310 Play therapy did pay off. All right, guys. 628 00:36:16,570 --> 00:36:17,990 Let's talk about what I've seen today. 629 00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:20,590 First of all, I've seen improvement. 630 00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:23,570 So playtime is definitely the thing that's helping. 631 00:36:23,810 --> 00:36:26,270 Right. I'm now sending over... 632 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,100 Another cat sitter. She's going to be able to give you great tips that are 633 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,580 to help you find the right cat sitter for Gracie in the future. 634 00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:35,740 With all that being said, let's start giving you some homework, okay? Okay. 635 00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:37,400 First thing, no detention. 636 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,860 For Chris and Leigh's homework, I really wanted them to recognize what's an 637 00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:44,200 ambush zone and where does she just go to decompress because that's okay if she 638 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,520 wants that. And finally, it's time to get some friends over here. My goal for 639 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,320 you guys is you to be able to have people over here. 640 00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:55,480 As long as when we have friends come over, they just don't feel threatened 641 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,440 because, hey, you've already played with her. You've already given her a meal. 642 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920 We've normalized it before they come. 643 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,740 I'm a little afraid that Gracie hasn't changed enough. 644 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:12,340 I think it's her nature to be aggressive, and I'm still not confident 645 00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:15,680 her with friends without fear that she will attack them. 646 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,860 I'm going to take my leave. 647 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,060 I've got to be completely honest with you about Gracie. I'm feeling very 50 648 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,620 The guests can't act with fear. They engage that game, and Gracie will 649 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:31,420 to that game. It's very simple, but it has to work from both sides, the cat 650 00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:33,040 and the human side as well. 651 00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:41,120 I'm going in for my final visit with Chris and Leigh and their cat, Gracie. 652 00:37:41,310 --> 00:37:46,070 Gracie, who has been described as crazy by more than just a few people. But I 653 00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:49,530 took a look at the video homework and I thought they do not employ detention the 654 00:37:49,530 --> 00:37:51,490 way they used to. Timeouts are not punishment. 655 00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:55,590 Also, they brought in my friend, the pet sitter, and she showed these guys the 656 00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:56,930 importance of routine. 657 00:37:57,330 --> 00:38:01,730 The best way for a pet sitter to bond with her with the least amount of stress 658 00:38:01,730 --> 00:38:07,110 is to do everything the same as you do. Is she less aggressive than she was? I'm 659 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:08,110 about to go find out. 660 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:10,710 Tell me, how's Gracie doing? 661 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,100 Better. We put the placemats on the table with a sticky tape on the side. 662 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,760 And I haven't seen Gracie up there. Done. Good. Good, good, good. Okay, 663 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,080 we have people coming over here today? 664 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:26,940 We do. We have a couple friends coming over, and these are friends that have 665 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:29,140 personally been attacked by her. 666 00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:32,840 And how do you feel about them coming here? 667 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:35,740 Still nervous. 668 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,560 The final piece, which hasn't happened quite yet, having friends come over, and 669 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,620 that's going to happen today. 670 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Hi. I'm Jackson. Hi. What's your name? Jennifer. Jennifer. 671 00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:50,100 Eliza. Eliza. Good to meet you guys. The two friends who had had the most 672 00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,880 traumatic time with Gracie, those are the two people I've got to work with 673 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,840 today. First of all, I've heard that you guys have both had harsh experiences 674 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,140 with Gracie. Yeah, if I'm walking by, she'll like... 675 00:39:03,790 --> 00:39:09,430 Do a little snag or... A lot of people mistake play aggression for actual I'm 676 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:10,470 going to kill you aggression. 677 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:14,750 Gracie was not trying to kill her, but actually playing into a game, which 678 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:19,250 included claws, but still it was a game. If it was more than that, then we would 679 00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:23,090 have seen the all four paw wraparound happening because if a cat wants to do 680 00:39:23,090 --> 00:39:25,410 damage to you, they will do damage to you. 681 00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:26,970 Are you okay right now? 682 00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:28,810 I don't feel comfortable. 683 00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:31,330 Are you guys aware of where she is right now? 684 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:32,870 Always. 685 00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:38,190 Don't even worry. 686 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:42,370 Don't even. 687 00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:48,080 I couldn't believe how terrified the Christens friends were standing there 688 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,040 nervous while Gracie was on the other side of the room minding her own 689 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,280 Listen, you can't put that energy out. Gracie will feed off it and then we're 690 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,060 going to have trouble. The key is you just got to act normal. 691 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,440 She is easily overstimulated and all you do is leave her alone. 692 00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,600 And what she does is what she's doing right now, which is she's part of the 693 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,460 room, but she's not. 694 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,500 A part of it. She's not going to come after you just because we're standing 695 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:18,160 here. I've learned that if we don't react to her, then maybe she won't 696 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,400 So I think that's a helpful tool for me, and it'll help me to feel more calm. 697 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,660 Guys, thanks so much for coming back in where I know you've had bad experiences. 698 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,300 This is a beginning, and hopefully you'll keep coming back here because I 699 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,500 things are going to keep getting better with Gracie. Thank you. 700 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:36,420 Thank you so much, you guys. 701 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:41,270 Gracie is just no longer that possessive, aggressive cat we met on day 702 00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:45,530 mean, she proved it by walking into the room with Chris and Leigh and myself and 703 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,510 her friends and just ignoring us completely. 704 00:40:48,030 --> 00:40:52,990 Just having friends come over here today shows what huge strides they've made. I 705 00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:55,670 definitely saw today a beginning. 706 00:40:56,130 --> 00:41:01,370 Yeah, I mean, previously she was definitely more aggressive, but playing 707 00:41:01,370 --> 00:41:03,870 her there, I think that definitely helped. I haven't really... 708 00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:05,038 It's been a time. 709 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,580 Leigh told me that he has a new dynamic with Gracie, and a lot of it comes from 710 00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:12,380 playtime. And I just said, I want to see it, so show me. There you go. You got 711 00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:13,380 her, man. You got her. 712 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360 Good work, Leigh. Again, this is the Gracie that I love. 713 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:18,560 I'm sure you got to love this. Yeah, it's awesome. 714 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,960 She's so happy. 715 00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:25,220 In the beginning, you know, I like Chris, so I had to pretend to tolerate 716 00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:26,460 just... Put up with Gracie. 717 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:30,620 But now with all these things I've learned, I've really come to appreciate 718 00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:33,160 love Gracie almost as much as I love Chris now. 719 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:37,560 So that's good. That's a great thing. I don't want you to love Gracie as much as 720 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,600 you love me. I think almost. 721 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:44,400 I just wanted to give you props for sticking with her. I mean, this is a cat 722 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,560 that other people would have given up on. And they did. 723 00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:48,700 And they did. And we're not going to do that. 724 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,020 That's what I want to hear. 725 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,900 I really just want to thank Jackson. I just want to thank him because he's 726 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:59,140 really made a big difference in our lives and our relationship and the 727 00:41:59,140 --> 00:42:02,140 relationship we have with Gracie, and it's definitely been a huge improvement. 728 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,460 Have a hellish cat? 729 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,260 Get my tips on how to better understand your cat's behavior. 730 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,960 Go to AnimalPlanet .com forward slash MyCatFromHell. 63332

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