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There's a feud. It is cat versus dog.
Her cat, Miley, tries to kill my dog.
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If Miley killed my dogs, I don't think
my relationship would ever be repaired.
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First time I met Gracie, giving no
warning at all. She just started hacking
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But I warned you.
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Gracie's behavior is so bad, we've had
cat sitters quit.
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I tell my friends, if you think she's
going to attack you, she is. So be ready
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for it. She's just a wild animal.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans?
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Only have one.
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I'm going over to see mother and
daughter Melissa and Mariah.
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Mariah's got a cat named Miley who is
just destroying Melissa's two dogs. And
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it's getting worse and worse every day.
So I'm going to go over, see if I can...
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repair the mother -daughter
relationship.
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Hi, Melissa.
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And I'm Mariah. We live together with
our two dogs, Makita and Madeline, and
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one cat, Miley.
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Me and my mom are definitely best
friends. We do almost everything
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Miley is my cat.
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Almost two years ago, we rescued her,
and I love her to death.
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The only problem is her cat, Miley,
tries to kill my dog.
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Miley just watches and waits for me to
leave the room.
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And then as soon as I leave the room,
she attacks.
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They're totally dependent on us, and
then we bring this thing in that hurts
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them. She's not just a thing. It's not
like she's intentionally trying to kill
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them. I don't know if Miley's not
intentionally trying to kill Madeline.
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I mean, it's not like it's her fault
that she pounces.
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I mean, she's a kitty. She's playing.
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I'm sick of all the fighting and
bickering and nonsense over her not
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Miley. Because she hurts my dog.
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Moving out would be my only option if
things don't change between Miley and
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dog.
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To even have the thought of her leaving,
you know, just breaks my heart. If
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Miley killed my dog, I don't think my
relationship would ever be repaired.
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It's very important that Miley gets her
behavior under control because I don't
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want. our relationship to be strained,
and it is. It is strained.
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We need Jackson to definitely come in
and help solve all these problems.
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Hey. Hi.
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How are you? Good.
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This is Madeline, and this is Makita.
Hi, guys. And that's Miley. And that's
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Miley in her box. Okay, we're good.
Let's sit down and catch up.
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The first thing I noticed walking into
the home was that we've got two dogs in
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little sundresses with their nails
painted pink.
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Now, that's one of those button -pushing
things for me. I don't like to see
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animals dressed up. I don't like to see
anything done that is remotely against
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their nature.
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So, we've got Miley attacking both dogs
or really just one? Well, she attacks
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both of them, but...
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Like I say, Makita protects herself and,
you know, bites back. Right. Every time
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that these two are left unattended, she
attacks.
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Couldn't help but notice, walking in
here, we've got diapers and baby bottles
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and playpen.
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So to add to all of this, is there a
baby?
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No.
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No, there's not a baby. We have the
playpen to keep them separated.
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Huh. We have to feed them with a bottle.
We have to feed them with a fork
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because they won't eat because they're
so scared of her.
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So you're saying because of Miley, they
don't eat, drink, or go to the bathroom
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by themselves anymore?
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Right. I've never heard of that before.
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You know, like I say, I worry that she's
going to kill him now. I just feel like
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they could fend for themselves more, but
maybe they're a little bit babied. Is
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that part of the arguments that you guys
have?
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Sometimes, yeah, because I think it gets
a little ridiculous.
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After getting all the lowdown on not
just the dysfunction between the cat and
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the dog, but between mother and
daughter, it was time to start looking
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the home to see if there was anything
that could be causing Miley's severe
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aggression. Diaper -wise, what makes you
choose to have it on them? Well, during
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the day when I'm not taking them out, we
put it on them just so they don't have
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accidents in the house. And they're only
because of Miley they never had.
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No. No, they would go to the door and
scratch to go out. Right now, that's the
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big problem, is they're not going to the
door and scratch. Yeah, they can't go
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to the door because they're scared
Miley's going to come and attack them.
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And there's the stroller. I'm confused
on this one, too. Look, put her in
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When we put them in there and zip it up,
they're safe from Miley.
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So when you're out on the street, you
have the stroller as opposed to leashes.
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Why? Because I don't want them to get
germs.
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You mean like walking down the street?
Sure.
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Um, huh.
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Now listen, I'm used to strange.
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I'm a cat behaviorist, remember?
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But this is normal cat behaviorist work.
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And this is Melissa and Mariah's house
up here. The bar has been set. Every
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I take a step through this house, I'm in
a new world of weird. I mean, watching
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these two dogs.
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sip off the baby bottle, get put in a
stroller afterwards.
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I want to run.
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Those are just some of Miley's toys that
we travel with. A lot of tons. She
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likes toilet paper rolls.
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Let's see what we got going on here.
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She's got like a bag of flies and a
checker. They're not really like cat
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Really? This is what your cat likes to
play with? I so doubt that.
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So, tell me about what goes on.
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Did she pee?
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She peed on the car. Oh, my God.
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Ew. See, and the thing is, that makes me
want to yell at Madeline.
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Because if Miley gets yelled at for
things, I feel like I should be able to
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at her.
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It makes me very frustrated.
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Okay, okay.
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It's disgusting.
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Yeah. And then I yell at her about this,
and then she says, it's because you're
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a cat.
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And I'm just like, no.
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Correct me. I mean, I'm not seeing the
connection between what just happened
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Miley. Miley's nowhere to be found.
Yeah, this is true.
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Well, now it's just become a habit.
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Okay.
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But you're seeing how that moment had
nothing to do with Miley.
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I did not agree with that because, you
know, now they're not used to just
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running to the door because they don't.
It's habit now. Yeah, because they don't
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run to the door. And that's why I'm
frustrated.
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And that's why they should have been
yelled at today.
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But it was my fault for not taking them
out.
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Hey, well, then you should have said you
were sparring. So what happens when the
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dogs are cornered? Does Makita fight
back?
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Yeah, Makita does. She'll turn around
and start nipping back at her and
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growling. And thus, nothing happens.
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Right.
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Madeline's confidence is gone.
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Part of that is that every time she
looks at you, you pick her up, you hold
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like a baby.
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It was time to go back in the living
room and let's put the dogs on the
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Maybe there's a way to find out if
there's bad behavior if the dogs are
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moving around like little targets.
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Well, the thing was, every time we put
the dogs on the floor, they were looking
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to get back up again. So I had Melissa
actually leave the room because I felt
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like a lot of that clingy behavior was
being caused by Melissa just hovering.
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One of the things I'm sort of suspecting
with her, you can go. It's okay.
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is that she's not getting the kind of
play that she needs to get. And that's
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she's acting out on Madeline so much,
because Madeline presents herself as a
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pretty cool toy.
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Come here, baby.
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Now, what I'm trying to demonstrate here
is every time I give her this choice,
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she's like, what is this that I get to
hunt?
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So it has nothing to do with Madeline.
Here, you play for a second. I'm going
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get your mom.
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Honey, did you miss me so much you
didn't know what to do?
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Oh, okay.
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She's got tears in her eyes. You do. Did
Miley get you?
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Did Miley attack Madeline?
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Nobody attacked anybody.
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I'm not lying to you. Look at the way
you're holding your dog. Come on.
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Come on out. Okay.
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Did you assume that something was going
to happen?
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Yeah. Okay, well, go ahead and put her
down.
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Here we go, man.
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Here we go.
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Is this how you normally handle her?
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I just hold her, and then she does this.
See?
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Ow, ow. This.
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Why are you still holding your cat?
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Because she's having fun.
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No, she's not.
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That's not fun.
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That's getting me off.
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You're getting beat up because she just
doesn't want to be held like that, like
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a baby.
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Well, if we can't hold her. Yeah.
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then how are we going to love her?
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I don't care whether it's dog or cat. In
Melissa or Mariah's house, they don't
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get animals. They don't get any of it.
They are trying to put these animals in
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little baby -shaped boxes, and it's not
going to work.
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Now, the first thing I got to tell you,
from what I'm seeing, is you got a
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pretty normal cat.
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What I did see was a lot of sort of
animal handling dysfunction, things like
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that, that I think that will set up the
problem.
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All that being said, I want to get to
your homework.
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The first thing is we have to start
challenging the dogs, and that means not
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really treating them like babies
anymore.
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Also, we're going to put them on the
ground and start challenging them with
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cat. Now, I'm not a dog behaviorist, but
I've got to tell you one thing.
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Madeline has to be on the floor moving
around, trying to find some self
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-confidence, and that, standing up to
Miley, will mean that she won't get beat
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up.
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What's going on?
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Do you not like the idea of challenging?
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No, I think it's a great idea. I just
hope that they can actually do it.
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These guys?
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I think that it's less about them.
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I mean, I think that your fear is pretty
pervasive right now.
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So the cat part of things, no more hand
play at all. That's all encouraging her
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to do damage to you. All that is, is
play aggression.
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Play aggression is...
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play for a cat is prey they are born to
kill stuff all we can do is give
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them alternate outlets so the toy that i
gave you is just a start all right guys
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thank you you're welcome good to meet
you guys my biggest fear i would say is
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that it'll all fail and then i'll have
to leave or something i'm really
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on all this to work so
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There's a lot of work that's got to be
done here, and it's not just about cats
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either. It's about dogs, and it's about
humans too. And Melissa and Mariah have
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got to know that they're part of the
problem.
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Did you miss me? It's clear I've got my
work cut out for me.
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I'm going in for my second visit with
mother and daughter Melissa and Mariah,
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whose two dogs have been terrorized by
Mariah's cat, Miley.
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Hey. Hello.
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Now, what I'm hoping is there's been a
little bit of understanding going on
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Melissa's end because she was terrified
before, overprotective of the dogs, and
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I'm hoping for just a little bit of
improvement.
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So what's going on?
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Well, as far as the homework goes, she
very much enjoyed the toy.
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Wow, nice going, little one.
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I know that part of the homework last
time was for you not to be carrying them
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around. Right.
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Is that happening?
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Yeah. You're not carrying the dogs
around? I'm trying not to carry them
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You're trying not to. No, no, no. Tell
me, are you carrying the dogs around?
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I'm really not.
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I feel like you're not being honest with
me.
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There's no way I can help you if you
don't tell me what's really going on.
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tell me the truth, and we'll make it
work.
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But you tell me right now, spoon
feeding, bottle feeding isn't happening
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I didn't bottle feed, but I have fed
them with pork sometimes.
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They don't want to go back over there
and eat after Miley attacks them.
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The bottom line here is in order.
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To make you, and I'm looking squarely at
you, the way to make you feel okay
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about this is to trust that cat.
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I don't trust her.
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Okay, so that's what we're going to work
on.
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She is not here to hunt and kill these
two.
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When I see Miley jumping on Madeline, I
see play. I see play behavior. I see
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prey behavior. Remember, if you act like
prey, you're going to get treated like
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prey.
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But the attacks really are bad when she
does it. Like, they really are. Let's
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take a look.
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That is just unexpected.
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And more importantly, what if I wasn't
home? What if I wasn't home and Miley
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that to Madeline?
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Now, first of all, I'm seeing play.
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That's play behavior.
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It really upset me when Jackson referred
to Miley attacking Madeline as play
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aggression because it's not fun and
games. It's Madeline's life we're
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about. It's not fair for her to have to
be scared in her own home.
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I felt really bad looking over at
Melissa and watching her tear up and say
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these are attacks and this is terrible
to see. But it occurred to me on another
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level that not only do you not
understand your cat, you don't even like
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I have a chance to talk to a small dog
expert.
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So I'm actually going to bow out of here
for just a second and go talk and see
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if I can get any more information that
will help us out here, okay? Okay. Give
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me a few minutes.
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Look, I'm the cat guy. I'm not a dog
guy. So I decided to call a small dog
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specialist who I've worked with before
to help me get Madeline's self
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-confidence up so that Molly won't see
her as prey and beat her up. I need to
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take them out real quick. I'll be right
back.
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Now, you work with small dogs, yeah?
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I do. That's my specialty.
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Come on, sis. Go inside now.
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Come on, girl.
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I'm just wondering, you know, a lot of
the people who have small dogs tend to
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just carry them around excessively.
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Don't you think that that might actually
reduce their confidence just a bit?
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Yes, and it actually makes the dog
overly protective towards the person.
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So if they walk, just encourage them
with lots of grace.
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All right, Jackie. Thank you so much.
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Glad to help you. Anytime.
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All right. We'll talk to you soon.
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What is going on here?
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After my conversation with Jackie, the
dog expert, I went back to the apartment
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and was completely blown away to see
Melissa washing her dog's paws in the
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thing. Now, instead of them wearing
diapers, we just take them out every 30
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minutes. So every 30 minutes, you're
going out, you're doing this, and
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gets washed.
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Oh, my God.
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Melissa tells me the dogs aren't wearing
diapers anymore. Why? Because she's
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taking them out every 30 minutes to go
pee. Now, that's just swapping.
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One dysfunctional playing card for
another one. That doesn't work.
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There's something that I have to admit.
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To make her calm.
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Okay, I gotta see it. Go ahead.
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There you go.
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She's pissed.
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She's not the only one.
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You're saying that that makes her...
Calm down.
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That's not calm.
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You hear that growl? That is the only
time that I've heard that cat growl
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I've been here.
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Mariah puts this dress on Miley, and she
clearly is miserable. She hates it.
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She's growling. She's scratching and
biting. You are the voice of your
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They can't speak English. They can't say
with language, I don't want to be
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dressed up. So if they struggle the way
Miley was clearly struggling, it's your
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job as a guardian to listen.
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Want to give you your homework?
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The one thing that I asked you to do
last time that you are just not doing is
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not that, is letting her walk around the
world. If Madeline doesn't find her
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confidence, she will be picked on, she
will be beat up, you're going to be
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crazed and upset.
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Beyond that, I want you to train her a
couple of simple things. The sit, maybe
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paw, reward her. The specialist told me
that praise and treat works fantastic
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with these guys.
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Now, just to give you some more work.
Okay.
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Play with the cat.
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I can't have you finish playing with her
until she is literally on her side
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panting. Otherwise, they're going to
look for inappropriate victims.
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Also, divvied up. The reason I wanted to
give you playtime with the cat is
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because I need you to start learning her
language.
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In order to solve problems that people
have with their cats, I teach them to
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appreciate and maybe to love them a lot
more than they do right now. That's what
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Cat Mojo is all about. That's my job
with Melissa right now.
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I come back here, these guys are walking
the ground, challenges have been met,
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and let's try to work through it.
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I am slightly worried that my mom won't
stop bathing the dogs because I know
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it's going to be very, very hard for
her.
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But hopefully she'll be able to do it
because she'll see that by letting go,
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it's going to benefit us all.
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But I think it'll be really hard,
definitely.
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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What do you call someone afraid of cats?
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A. Ilerophobic, B.
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Cataphobic, or C.
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Gamaphobic? The answer, after the break.
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What do you call someone afraid of cats?
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And the answer is A.
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The word Ilerophobic comes from the
Greek words Ileros, cat, and Phobos,
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I'm going in for my final visit with...
mother and daughter, Melissa and Mariah,
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their dog, Makita and Madeline, and the
cat, Miley.
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I was expecting and hoping to see two
dogs greeting me at the door, acting
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dogs, wagging their tails, hi, how you
doing, the way dogs do.
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Instead, I walked in and for the third
time, Melissa was holding them, stood up
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to greet me, couldn't shake my hand
because she had an armful of dogs.
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So tell me, how's life?
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Great. I like that.
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Madeline has gained self -confidence.
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And not only did she growl several times
at Miley, she tried to bite Miley.
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That's amazing.
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Amazing. I just decided, you know, to
use your tips. We taught her tricks in
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trying to build her self -confidence. We
would practice many times a day, and
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Mariah would help me, and, you know,
just like a child would give Madeline
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positive reinforcement.
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Down. Down.
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Down, Fred.
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You have to say the same word every
time.
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Girlfriend.
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And it did. It builds her self -esteem
enough where now she can protect
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And she's been playing with Miley.
You've been playing with Miley. We've
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bonding. We have been bonding.
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Really,
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I want to stop for a second and
acknowledge you, Melissa, because these
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challenges. And you're really taking the
bull by the horns here. What happened
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between the last time I was here and
this time?
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Because it's a huge change.
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I didn't want Madeline to have to live
out the rest of her life, you know, in
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pain and in fear of Miley.
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Melissa and Mariah were telling me about
Madeline's spike in self -confidence,
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so I asked her to put them down on the
ground again and let's see them interact
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with Miley so we can see how things
actually are.
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And at that moment, Madeline thought,
wait a minute, this is okay.
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And then Miley made that move towards
the toy, and it was inches.
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for Madeline's faith.
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There we go.
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Look at that.
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Madeline didn't even blink.
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Kind of a cool thing when you think
about it, when you have that one moment
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Miley gets to make the choice between
dog and toy, and suddenly she chooses
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There wasn't this payoff, which equaled,
I go for the dog, and she squeals and
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runs, and that's because Madeline's self
-confidence has been raised, and...
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Miley's getting proper playtime now,
too. The dynamic has changed. Dog
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equal toy anymore.
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Madeline's not looking at you, Melissa.
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She's not looking to be rescued by
anybody right now. And look at Miley.
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looking over here. She doesn't care.
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This is why I came over here. The cherry
on top, as far as I'm concerned, is
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that you know that nobody's going to die
right now. Right.
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There's an equal chance that when I go
to a case, I'm going to be working with
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cats more or I'm going to be working
with humans more. This case was
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more on the human side. I was here
really to help Melissa.
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Now she can have a relationship with the
dogs, relationship with the cat, and
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relationship with her daughter. That, to
me, was the biggest win that we've had.
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I'm on my way.
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Okay, thank you.
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I'd like to tell Jackson thank you for
saving my family. I was so worried that
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Miley and Mariah were going to have to
split, but now we can all live together
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in harmony, and that's what I wanted.
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All right, bye -bye. Bye.
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First time I met Gracie, she gave me no
warning at all. She just started
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attacking me.
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But I warned you.
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I tell my friends, if you think she's
going to attack you, she is.
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She's just a wild animal.
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What's up, Gracie?
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Yeah, that feels good.
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I'm heading over right now to Kristen
and Lay's house to see Kristen's cat,
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Gracie. Now, Gracie is so aggressive.
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They can't go on vacations because
testers quit.
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They can't have friends and family come
over because Gracie stalks and attacks
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them. They're being held hostage.
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I'm going to go over right now to see if
maybe I can negotiate a hostage.
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I'm Kristen.
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I'm Lay.
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And we've been together for a year and a
half.
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We met on a hike.
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I had no gear. I had no water, no
drinks, no snacks, no jacket.
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I had the wine and the marshmallows,
right? That's all that mattered. And the
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vodka. And the vodka.
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I have a cat, Gracie. She's a Burmese,
and she's six years old.
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One of the things I really liked about
Lay when we first started dating is that
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he didn't seem to be afraid of Gracie.
Oh, very brave.
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Until I met his sister for the first
time, and one of the first things she
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to me was, oh, I hear you have a totally
crazy cat.
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And I looked at him like, oh, do I?
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First time I met Gracie, she was the
very sweet to cute cat.
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And then, giving no warning at all, she
just started hacking me.
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But I warned you.
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Okay, come on.
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Some of her favorite locations to attack
are she hides underneath the table
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where the television is.
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Gracie's behavior is so bad, we've had
cat sitters quit.
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Basically, when they're here alone, they
have called me begging me to
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come home because they're trapped in the
spare bedroom because Gracie is
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stalking them.
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Attacked through the sweater.
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Some of my friends, we've had a falling
out because of Gracie.
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I tell my friends, if you think she's
going to attack you, she is, and be
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for it. But people aren't saying that
he's dating the crazy cat lady.
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My sister said that, and your friends
say that.
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I would also say that Gracie is crazy.
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I'm sure Jackson is very, very good, but
it just seems impossible for Gracie to
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be trained at this point. She's just a
wild animal.
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Hi. Hi.
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How are you guys?
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I'm so glad you're here. I'm Chris.
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I'm Leigh. Nice to meet you. Leigh. Good
to meet you guys. Have a seat. Thank
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you very much.
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So tell me the story of Gracie. I met
someone five years ago who had
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at the shelter where I adopted her from,
and she said they all knew that Gracie
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was crazy and that two other people had
already adopted her and returned her.
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So basically what they did to this cat
over and over was give her that sense of
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security, ditch her back out on the
street again, and basically all you're
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is postponing killing this cat. I'm glad
that she found a home with somebody
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like Chris who said, no, I won't return
this cat.
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When she's being really aggressive, I've
tried putting her in a timeout. When
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Gracie's energetically puffed out,
prowling, keeping you at bay, putting
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the bathroom in a timeout's okay.
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I've had five different cat sitters, and
they've all quit. Are you kidding me?
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Yeah, I just quit in the middle of our
vacation.
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Quit in the middle of my vacation.
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A cat's supposed to be emotional
support, upliftment. They're supposed to
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company. They're not supposed to be...
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guards that keep the rest of the world
at bay. It's got to affect your
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relationship somehow, right?
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No, I'm not worried about that at all.
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I wouldn't say I'm mad. You're great.
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00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:21,960
I like watching you think because I can
see you ticking.
452
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,500
Shouldn't I be worried, dear?
453
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,380
You shouldn't be worried yet.
454
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Initially, Chris thought that I was not
affected by Gracie, but in fact, I'm
455
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,160
trying to put up that front, and if I
can't deal with Gracie, we can't
456
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,860
Yeah, I guess you'd have to hit the
road.
457
00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:41,780
Yeah.
458
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,620
Getting rid of Gracie is not an option,
so... Okay. My goal for you
459
00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:52,340
guys is you'll be able to have people
over here.
460
00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:53,860
I want you to be able to entertain.
461
00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:58,140
That's the most important thing for us,
to be able to welcome people into our
462
00:26:58,140 --> 00:27:00,200
home. This is no way to live with a cat.
463
00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:04,220
This can't happen. You can't have a cat
in your life who's going to kick
464
00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:08,780
everyone else out. And I know that Lay
will go to a place eventually where he
465
00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:10,540
will say, I've had it, I'm gone.
466
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,860
Oh, look, she's here. She seems so
peaceful right now.
467
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,760
The time had really come for me to spend
time with Gracie and see if this cat is
468
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,060
really crazy or not.
469
00:27:22,290 --> 00:27:26,590
Why? What I want to find out right away,
is there a possession aggression
470
00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:28,490
problem? Hi, baby.
471
00:27:28,790 --> 00:27:32,230
I found out really quickly. The answer
was yes.
472
00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:38,090
Possession aggression is something that
I call that energy of this is all mine.
473
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:41,250
And it leads to violence if somebody
invades that space.
474
00:27:41,450 --> 00:27:45,330
I want to see what it's like to have her
in the room with me without you guys
475
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,950
here. So I'm going to be your guest.
476
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:49,310
Okay.
477
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:53,420
It was time for me to ask them to leave
so that I could actually have some real
478
00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:55,020
one -on -one time with Gracie.
479
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,360
All right, Gracie.
480
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:58,400
I know, girl.
481
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:03,880
What? Gracie takes up a spot right in
the middle of the bed, and I join her. I
482
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,880
sit right next to her.
483
00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:05,980
Hi.
484
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000
What's going on?
485
00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:09,740
Okay.
486
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,880
Okay, babe.
487
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Okay, babe.
488
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,460
She beat up my arm pretty good.
489
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,200
She didn't let me put my arm next to
her. She didn't let me put a hand out. I
490
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,720
had to sit like this, like a good boy.
491
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:25,960
I'm not going anywhere, man.
492
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,160
Gracie being a Burmese.
493
00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:37,700
It's just like all the other oriental
breeds. They're talkers. And so she was
494
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,680
actually telling me the whole time, if
you put your hand down there right
495
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:43,800
I'm going to beat you up. You're making
me mad. You're making, oh, I told you.
496
00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:47,500
So it wasn't like it came out of the
blue. She was letting me know the entire
497
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:53,080
time, if you do this, I'm going to do
that. And I was dumb enough to do this.
498
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,240
And she was smart enough to do that.
499
00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:58,160
Oh, my gosh, what's that?
500
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,140
Gracie 100 % startled me. And I don't
get startled easily. So what did I do?
501
00:29:03,550 --> 00:29:04,550
I broke out treats.
502
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:05,910
You smell it?
503
00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:10,070
Ooh.
504
00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:15,070
Oh, what is that?
505
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:17,030
Oh, I know.
506
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:18,830
If you...
507
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,500
Listen, I worked at a shelter for a long
time.
508
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,860
I'm telling you, Gracie could have
easily been put to sleep because of a
509
00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:49,860
behavior problem.
510
00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:55,340
But at that one moment, when Gracie took
that treat out of my hand with a soft
511
00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:59,780
mouth, I said, well, wait a minute.
She's reacting like a normal cat.
512
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,180
And that was pretty amazing because
that, in a nutshell, told me this is no
513
00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:06,059
crazy cat.
514
00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:07,140
You want to play with me?
515
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:11,020
Oh, yes, you do.
516
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:13,300
Good girl.
517
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,780
Gracie is possessive in part because of
her past.
518
00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:19,640
She has no sense of belonging anywhere.
519
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:24,440
So what we're going to use is play to
redirect and soften that focus.
520
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,100
Let me tell you a few things. My gut is
telling me that she's not.
521
00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:32,970
Crazy. She's exhibiting to me a number
of different types of aggression.
522
00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:34,330
We have play aggression.
523
00:30:34,590 --> 00:30:38,770
Play aggression is when your ankles get
it. If a cat wants to do damage to you,
524
00:30:38,850 --> 00:30:43,550
they will do what's called a kill bite.
If they want to just play around, that's
525
00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:45,610
the motion you're going to see. You are
a toy.
526
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:50,290
Then we have possession aggression. The
hostage taking that goes on here seems
527
00:30:50,290 --> 00:30:51,650
to be all based around that.
528
00:30:51,910 --> 00:30:53,910
So let's get down to your homework.
529
00:30:54,490 --> 00:30:57,830
With the play aggression, we're going to
block off the underside of that TV
530
00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:01,650
stand. You can't get to it, whether
that's changing the stand itself or
531
00:31:01,650 --> 00:31:02,409
it off completely.
532
00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:04,970
And then the other end of that equation
is that.
533
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Actual play has to happen. Right now,
all of Gracie's energy is focused on
534
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,580
possession, and that's what's got to
change. So part of Kristen and Leigh's
535
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:16,780
homework is to use play to get her to
redirect that energy. Why?
536
00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:21,360
Because as she hunts the toy, catches
it, and kills it, she owns the whole
537
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,040
place. She doesn't have to guard one
area because the whole area is hers. Let
538
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040
show you what else you can do.
539
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,300
This is called...
540
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,259
Bully remedy.
541
00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:31,160
It's just a holistic flower essence
remedy.
542
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,380
It's something that you guys can give
her. It just goes in her wet food, and
543
00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:37,020
just helps keep her calm.
544
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:41,780
Okay, so this timeout is still okay. If
she goes out of control, timeout is
545
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:42,699
totally okay.
546
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:46,220
Chris and Leia's homework involves
touching on every part of the
547
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:49,260
want them to start to know Gracie's body
a little bit better. When is she
548
00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:50,260
getting aggressive?
549
00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,420
Proactive, not reactive.
550
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
At the end of the day, I want you guys
to be able to have guests here again.
551
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,440
That's our goal, right? One of the
things that concern me the most is the
552
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,860
that besides Lay, there's nobody.
553
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,080
If he leaves, everyone's gone out of
Chris's life because of Gracie. So I
554
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,860
to keep him in this house. It was great
meeting you. Thank you so much. Thank
555
00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:11,200
you so much. I will talk to you soon,
right?
556
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Thank you so much. Bye.
557
00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:14,380
I am hopeful.
558
00:32:14,910 --> 00:32:19,990
Skeptical still, but I'm here and I'm
ready and willing to do this work
559
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:22,590
Gracie is my cat forever.
560
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:26,870
So I'm going to have to find a way to
make this work.
561
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:36,490
I'm on my way to see Chris and Lay and
their cat Gracie again.
562
00:32:36,770 --> 00:32:41,310
Gracie is so aggressive. They can't go
on vacation because cat sitters quit.
563
00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:43,990
they can't have friends or family come
over to their house.
564
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,209
Not acceptable.
565
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:49,890
So I want to see Gracie a little
mellowed out, not waiting to hurt me.
566
00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:50,669
would be a start.
567
00:32:50,670 --> 00:32:51,629
Welcome back.
568
00:32:51,630 --> 00:32:52,730
Thank you very much.
569
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:53,950
How are things?
570
00:32:54,290 --> 00:32:55,290
They're better.
571
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:58,050
They're definitely a lot better. Good.
We've definitely played with Gracie a
572
00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:01,570
more. I think that definitely got to
calm down a little bit. Just with
573
00:33:01,570 --> 00:33:03,730
strangers, I think we haven't had many
strangers over.
574
00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:08,390
They're still acting in fear of Gracie,
and it's still preventing them from
575
00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:12,050
having friends over, and I don't like
it, especially where we are today, the
576
00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:14,190
halfway point. I'd like to see better
progress.
577
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:19,030
Now, I've got some of the video homework
that you guys made for me, and I want
578
00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:20,030
to watch it with you.
579
00:33:21,670 --> 00:33:22,770
Get it, Gracie, get it.
580
00:33:23,030 --> 00:33:24,030
There you go.
581
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:28,310
Gracie, get off the table.
582
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:31,510
I just put Gracie in timeout.
583
00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:36,720
She jumped up on the kitchen table,
which is a no -no. The play that I'm
584
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,460
Leigh do on that homework, fantastic.
What I didn't like was why Chris is
585
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:43,600
putting Gracie into timeout.
586
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,060
Let's redefine detention.
587
00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:47,640
When you're throwing a temper tantrum...
Mm -hmm.
588
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160
I just want you to settle back in your
skin. So when she gets on the kitchen
589
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,400
table ten times, you don't put her in
detention?
590
00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:58,880
No. The only thing that we can do is we
do an exercise where we have sticky tape
591
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040
that's put on the top of the table so
every time she jumps up, it's like, oh,
592
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,779
what's this?
593
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:06,940
When I told them they could put her in
timeout, that meant letting her
594
00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:12,800
decompress, not punishing. It just
showed me how far away Chris and Leigh
595
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,920
from understanding Gracie. So I got my
work cut out for me. First time I was
596
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,250
here. We identified this as being her
main little ambush zone.
597
00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:27,770
What we've actually done is we've moved
the boxes on the side way back so that
598
00:34:27,770 --> 00:34:32,489
she can get back in there. So now she
has a new spot, which is right here with
599
00:34:32,489 --> 00:34:36,170
the ottoman in front of the chair. Yeah,
so normally it's like this. And she
600
00:34:36,170 --> 00:34:37,770
paws one of us or scratches.
601
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:42,719
She'll just run and just... Hide under
there. The ottoman makes no sense to me.
602
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,460
Why would Gracie go under that chair to
ambush people when it's in the center of
603
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:48,158
the room?
604
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,719
Okay, she'll tag you and run.
605
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,540
Yeah, sometimes I'm here petting her,
and she'll run and get down here. Hiding
606
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,719
there after she's attacked.
607
00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:57,180
Well, okay.
608
00:34:57,580 --> 00:35:00,080
Which is a little bit better, I think.
Important distinction.
609
00:35:00,340 --> 00:35:05,300
Well, she hid. That's different from
ambushing. That counts as her own self
610
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:09,060
-imposed timeout. Okay. Basically, all
it is is hit.
611
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:14,630
Run. Get back in my skin. What she was
actually trying to do was decompress,
612
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:18,490
I wanted them to know that's the
difference between ambushing and
613
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:23,610
As long as she has proper outlets for
her energy, you're going to see her
614
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:27,230
herself when she's getting worked up. As
I was standing and talking to Kristen
615
00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:31,110
Leigh in the living room, I basically
just was looking at Kristen's face as
616
00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:35,130
went, Hi, baby.
617
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:40,690
She's here with you with us. She's not
hiding out. This position that she's in
618
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:44,150
right now, that is exactly what we're
looking for. We're looking for her to be
619
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:48,050
part of this without looking to spring
out and attack.
620
00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:52,170
The first time I was here, Gracie
exhibited a lot of possession
621
00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:54,970
matter of fact, she wouldn't even let me
sit on the same bed with her without
622
00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:56,150
getting severely attacked.
623
00:36:00,049 --> 00:36:03,810
Now, this time I was talking to Chris
and Lay, and Gracie just jumped up on
624
00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:07,970
back of the couch, completely ignored
me. That's a major step in the right
625
00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:11,330
direction. And I needed to point out to
Chris and Lay, this is what you get for
626
00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:12,330
following your homework.
627
00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:15,310
Play therapy did pay off. All right,
guys.
628
00:36:16,570 --> 00:36:17,990
Let's talk about what I've seen today.
629
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:20,590
First of all, I've seen improvement.
630
00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:23,570
So playtime is definitely the thing
that's helping.
631
00:36:23,810 --> 00:36:26,270
Right. I'm now sending over...
632
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,100
Another cat sitter. She's going to be
able to give you great tips that are
633
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,580
to help you find the right cat sitter
for Gracie in the future.
634
00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:35,740
With all that being said, let's start
giving you some homework, okay? Okay.
635
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:37,400
First thing, no detention.
636
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,860
For Chris and Leigh's homework, I really
wanted them to recognize what's an
637
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:44,200
ambush zone and where does she just go
to decompress because that's okay if she
638
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,520
wants that. And finally, it's time to
get some friends over here. My goal for
639
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,320
you guys is you to be able to have
people over here.
640
00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:55,480
As long as when we have friends come
over, they just don't feel threatened
641
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,440
because, hey, you've already played with
her. You've already given her a meal.
642
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920
We've normalized it before they come.
643
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,740
I'm a little afraid that Gracie hasn't
changed enough.
644
00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:12,340
I think it's her nature to be
aggressive, and I'm still not confident
645
00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:15,680
her with friends without fear that she
will attack them.
646
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,860
I'm going to take my leave.
647
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,060
I've got to be completely honest with
you about Gracie. I'm feeling very 50
648
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,620
The guests can't act with fear. They
engage that game, and Gracie will
649
00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:31,420
to that game. It's very simple, but it
has to work from both sides, the cat
650
00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:33,040
and the human side as well.
651
00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:41,120
I'm going in for my final visit with
Chris and Leigh and their cat, Gracie.
652
00:37:41,310 --> 00:37:46,070
Gracie, who has been described as crazy
by more than just a few people. But I
653
00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:49,530
took a look at the video homework and I
thought they do not employ detention the
654
00:37:49,530 --> 00:37:51,490
way they used to. Timeouts are not
punishment.
655
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:55,590
Also, they brought in my friend, the pet
sitter, and she showed these guys the
656
00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:56,930
importance of routine.
657
00:37:57,330 --> 00:38:01,730
The best way for a pet sitter to bond
with her with the least amount of stress
658
00:38:01,730 --> 00:38:07,110
is to do everything the same as you do.
Is she less aggressive than she was? I'm
659
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:08,110
about to go find out.
660
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:10,710
Tell me, how's Gracie doing?
661
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,100
Better. We put the placemats on the
table with a sticky tape on the side.
662
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,760
And I haven't seen Gracie up there.
Done. Good. Good, good, good. Okay,
663
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,080
we have people coming over here today?
664
00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:26,940
We do. We have a couple friends coming
over, and these are friends that have
665
00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:29,140
personally been attacked by her.
666
00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:32,840
And how do you feel about them coming
here?
667
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:35,740
Still nervous.
668
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,560
The final piece, which hasn't happened
quite yet, having friends come over, and
669
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,620
that's going to happen today.
670
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Hi. I'm Jackson. Hi. What's your name?
Jennifer. Jennifer.
671
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:50,100
Eliza. Eliza. Good to meet you guys. The
two friends who had had the most
672
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,880
traumatic time with Gracie, those are
the two people I've got to work with
673
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,840
today. First of all, I've heard that you
guys have both had harsh experiences
674
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,140
with Gracie. Yeah, if I'm walking by,
she'll like...
675
00:39:03,790 --> 00:39:09,430
Do a little snag or... A lot of people
mistake play aggression for actual I'm
676
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going to kill you aggression.
677
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:14,750
Gracie was not trying to kill her, but
actually playing into a game, which
678
00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:19,250
included claws, but still it was a game.
If it was more than that, then we would
679
00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:23,090
have seen the all four paw wraparound
happening because if a cat wants to do
680
00:39:23,090 --> 00:39:25,410
damage to you, they will do damage to
you.
681
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:26,970
Are you okay right now?
682
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:28,810
I don't feel comfortable.
683
00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:31,330
Are you guys aware of where she is right
now?
684
00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:32,870
Always.
685
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:38,190
Don't even worry.
686
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:42,370
Don't even.
687
00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:48,080
I couldn't believe how terrified the
Christens friends were standing there
688
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,040
nervous while Gracie was on the other
side of the room minding her own
689
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,280
Listen, you can't put that energy out.
Gracie will feed off it and then we're
690
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,060
going to have trouble. The key is you
just got to act normal.
691
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,440
She is easily overstimulated and all you
do is leave her alone.
692
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,600
And what she does is what she's doing
right now, which is she's part of the
693
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,460
room, but she's not.
694
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,500
A part of it. She's not going to come
after you just because we're standing
695
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:18,160
here. I've learned that if we don't
react to her, then maybe she won't
696
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,400
So I think that's a helpful tool for me,
and it'll help me to feel more calm.
697
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,660
Guys, thanks so much for coming back in
where I know you've had bad experiences.
698
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,300
This is a beginning, and hopefully
you'll keep coming back here because I
699
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,500
things are going to keep getting better
with Gracie. Thank you.
700
00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:36,420
Thank you so much, you guys.
701
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:41,270
Gracie is just no longer that
possessive, aggressive cat we met on day
702
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:45,530
mean, she proved it by walking into the
room with Chris and Leigh and myself and
703
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,510
her friends and just ignoring us
completely.
704
00:40:48,030 --> 00:40:52,990
Just having friends come over here today
shows what huge strides they've made. I
705
00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:55,670
definitely saw today a beginning.
706
00:40:56,130 --> 00:41:01,370
Yeah, I mean, previously she was
definitely more aggressive, but playing
707
00:41:01,370 --> 00:41:03,870
her there, I think that definitely
helped. I haven't really...
708
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:05,038
It's been a time.
709
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,580
Leigh told me that he has a new dynamic
with Gracie, and a lot of it comes from
710
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:12,380
playtime. And I just said, I want to see
it, so show me. There you go. You got
711
00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:13,380
her, man. You got her.
712
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360
Good work, Leigh. Again, this is the
Gracie that I love.
713
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:18,560
I'm sure you got to love this. Yeah,
it's awesome.
714
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,960
She's so happy.
715
00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:25,220
In the beginning, you know, I like
Chris, so I had to pretend to tolerate
716
00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:26,460
just... Put up with Gracie.
717
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:30,620
But now with all these things I've
learned, I've really come to appreciate
718
00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:33,160
love Gracie almost as much as I love
Chris now.
719
00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:37,560
So that's good. That's a great thing. I
don't want you to love Gracie as much as
720
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,600
you love me. I think almost.
721
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:44,400
I just wanted to give you props for
sticking with her. I mean, this is a cat
722
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,560
that other people would have given up
on. And they did.
723
00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:48,700
And they did. And we're not going to do
that.
724
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,020
That's what I want to hear.
725
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,900
I really just want to thank Jackson. I
just want to thank him because he's
726
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:59,140
really made a big difference in our
lives and our relationship and the
727
00:41:59,140 --> 00:42:02,140
relationship we have with Gracie, and
it's definitely been a huge improvement.
728
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,460
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