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Michael is the one that should be
running after the cat.
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Because I think it's a man's job.
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Here we go again.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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And there goes your cat.
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Does that happen a lot?
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Ow. Man.
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Addie's got the nickname known as the
devil.
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She usually rips my hand apart.
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Addie's caused a few arguments.
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He thinks he likes playing rough.
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I don't agree with the way he plays with
her.
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I know she wants to play rough.
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I'm going to disagree with that.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I'm a musician by night and a cat
behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right? Sorry, I don't know.
Cats have nine lives, but humans?
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Only have one.
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Whoa!
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I'm going over right now to see Michael
and Chris and their cat, Kitty.
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Ow! Oh, man.
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Now, Kitty hates Michael and loves
Chris, but it's no wonder.
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Michael is a disciplinarian. Get down!
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He chases after Kitty when he escapes,
which is all the time.
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And does all the dirty work.
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Chris just gets some love on the cat,
and that's the way she thinks it ought
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be. So I'm going over there right now to
see if I can referee this battle of the
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sexes.
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I'm Chris.
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I'm Michael, and we've been together for
a year.
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Our relationship is bad.
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Calm. Like, we don't fight that much.
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We get along.
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But the one thing that we do fight
about... Is the cat. Is the cat.
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Kitty's my cat, really. But I'm the guy
that has to clean everything and do
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everything for it.
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Kitty also likes to pee and poop on my
clothes.
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I guess Michael gets the worst of it. He
tears up all of our toilet paper rolls.
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We go through, like, 36 toilet paper
rolls.
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In two months, which is kind of a lot,
he will run outside.
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I was all the way up this tree out here,
like 15 feet up. I could definitely
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fall and break a leg trying to get this
cat.
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I think Michael is the one that should
be running after the cat because I think
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it's a man's job.
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Do you really want me to be the one
chasing the cat or cleaning up his poop?
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have to look pretty.
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You're a cat, right?
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The kitty is going to go up for adoption
without Jack's help.
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Hey, man. Hello.
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How are you? How's it going?
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Oh, hey. Oh, oh, oh.
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And there goes your cat. Wow.
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I think that was Kitty that just ran by
me, but all I saw was a great furball.
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Does that happen a lot?
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Yeah, it sure does.
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Every day.
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Oh, there he goes.
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And your job is what?
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My job is just looking.
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This is, like, every day. I was kind of,
like, afraid that we weren't going to
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find him today.
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Is Jackson going to be able to even meet
Kitty?
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Oh, my God.
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Kitty?
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Get on that side.
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Kitty? Kitty, Kitty, Kitty.
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You idiot.
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The cat is everywhere.
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Funny thing was, the entire time, Chris
is like, oh, Michael, oh, Michael.
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God.
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Seriously.
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Oh, he's got him. You heard that hiss?
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He went to go leap over the fence. I
grabbed him by the tail.
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Of course, I completely appreciate the
fact that Michael's chasing Kitty all
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over the neighborhood trying to save
him. But at the same time, I really wish
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wouldn't save him by grabbing him by the
tail. There's between 14 and 28
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vertebrae in a cat's tail alone.
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And not only does that throw off their
entire physiology, but it hurts.
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Now, if they do this every week, man,
they need my help worse than I thought
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they did.
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Kitty.
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Glad you could meet him.
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What's up, Kitty?
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I'm glad that Jackson got to see the cat
run out and, like, exactly what he does
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when he does it.
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And what I have to do when he does it.
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Well, that's one of the things. Nice to
meet you. Yeah.
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That qualifies as a fine how do you do
right there. Yeah.
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Is this?
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Kind of the kiddie MO. This is something
you deal with all the time. This is
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what this guy does.
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Escapes any way it can.
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Yeah, well.
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Out the window, any door that's open.
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Oh, yeah. Mark had it. It'll just
monitor our day and just wait.
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Might as well just launch right into it.
I mean, why am I here?
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Well. The worst problem for me is that
he pees on clothes, especially, like,
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right now. He's mad now because Mike
went and got him. So, like, I'm pretty
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he's going to go and pee somewhere when
we're not looking.
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I'm in school full -time, so I'm always
doing homework, and whenever, like, the
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cat's being mischievous or anything, I'm
like, Michael, take care of it.
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And he doesn't like that. That, like,
caused a problem with us because then we
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started, like, bickering.
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More like Michael cleaning up.
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This, clean up that, go check this, go
feed him, change the litter box. Okay,
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now we know that there's a bit of a
problem there. Michael and Chris are
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displaying that classic good cop, bad
cop behavior, where Chris is the one who
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pets the cat and loves the cat, where
Michael is making sure that this cat
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doesn't die.
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He's actually the guardian.
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What Chris is, I have no idea.
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What have you tried to keep him in?
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I try to overfeed him.
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Overfeed him. So he's too full to move?
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Yeah. The cat likes potato chips and
Snickers. That wasn't a good idea.
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Seriously, you are not being your...
They will lay together and watch TV and
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they're both eating chips.
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So you're hoping that that's going to
keep him from running out of the house.
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I'm going to die.
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Cats are what we call obligate
carnivores. That means that they're only
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to eat meat. They're not chocovores, and
they're not chipivores. As a matter of
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fact, there are certain types of
chocolate in certain quantities that can
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your cats. This is our bedroom.
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Okay. So now in here, I kind of smell
pee.
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It's probably that.
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He goes, hides in the corner, and pisses
on all our clothes in the drawers.
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Is it somebody's clothes that gets hit
more than others?
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Mine usually always.
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It is absolutely ridiculously annoying
that Kitty just pees on my things.
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Has he peed on your bed? He does pee on
his bed. Yeah, he's peed on my bed.
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As Michael and Chris were pointing out
all the spots that Kitty had peed, well,
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you can't see them, but you can sure
smell them, and you can smell it
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in their room.
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I'm just going to go around here and
look for pee.
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So it was time for me to get my black
light out and go around the room. I
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to find a spot that they didn't even
know about.
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So it's this side of the bed that he
tends to go on, right? That's yours.
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So there you have something there. He
definitely peed this up quite a bit,
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actually. In order to wash away cat
urine, and not just the stain, but the
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as well, I found that using the CO2
-based cleaner has worked really well,
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well as some other enzymatic cleaners.
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Oh, hello.
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There is a bunch of pee dripping down.
Oh, my God.
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All the way down to the floor, kind of.
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Again, it is very much your side of
things.
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Well, I got all the information that I
needed from the space itself, from the
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territory. Hi!
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But now it's kind of my favorite time. I
get to spend some one -on -one time
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with Kitty.
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What is that?
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What is that?
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Oh.
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Oh, my God, you're the biggest play
hound ever.
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Watching Kitty play with that toy. Come
on.
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Hot laps.
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I knew that he had never been played
with like this before. He had never had
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interactive toy.
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You know how to hunt.
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It was jackpot beyond anything he had
ever known before.
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And it was great to bring that to his
life. I felt like Santa Claus.
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Hey, guys. Hey, how'd it go?
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Well, it was fun.
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What happened?
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He's a lot of fun. I mean, first of all.
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He's just a normal teenage boy.
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So I'm going to give you really concrete
homework.
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The first thing is, tomorrow we've got
to get this guy set up and get Kitty
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neutered.
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What's that?
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I feel bad for him. He's an unneutered
tom at a year old.
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This is his only job in the whole world,
is to make more little kitties and mark
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his territory. If he remains intact and
he's not allowed outside, he's going to
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become destructive in the house by
making a mess and peeing all over the
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Now, here's the second part. It's going
to be fun for one of you guys anyway.
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We're going to switch roles.
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Good cop, bad cop, bad cop, good cop.
That means no more discipline from you,
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more cleaning, no more scooping. Your
only job is to learn what makes him move
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around the house. I'm going to leave you
with one of the toys that I work with.
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You go crazy with it, you play with it,
and get him tired. That's the kind of
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energy that you want to expend so he's
not going out there looking for fun,
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right? And there he gets that full range
of experience that all comes from you.
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None of it.
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From you. Okay?
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Just for the next couple weeks. This is
great.
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Now, that also means if you've got to
chase him up a tree, if you've got to
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him out from under a car, you're going
to be the one chasing him outside.
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You're going to be the one scooping the
litter boxes.
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You're going to be the one cleaning up
pee and poop.
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And you start giving him his food.
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I honestly don't think that she will
chase the cats.
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I will try my best. But we will see.
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You know, get down to business here,
too. It's not good for your relationship
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you're the only one doing everything and
all the resentment that comes from
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that, and then you guys start fighting
about the weather. All right. It was
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really great meeting you. Great meeting
you, too. All right. If Kitty continues
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to misbehave, I will talk to you guys
really soon. If Jackson can't help me
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Kath, then I just really need to give
him away.
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So I'm heading up to Michael and Chris's
place to see Kitty for our second
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visit. The last time I was here, I asked
for Michael to be good cop and Chris to
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be bad cop. Why?
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Because I want Michael to have positive
interactions with Kitty. And I want
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Chris to learn what it is to be a
responsible pet guardian. When I saw the
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homework, I got to see Michael go and
take Kitty to get neutered. And I'm
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Chris was, I don't know, parking the
car?
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Whoa.
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We good?
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We're good this time.
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Life's doing a lot better.
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Life is doing a lot better? Yes.
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I like that.
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Look it. We don't have to sprint out the
door this time. I was going to say,
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hello.
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What's up?
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That's awfully nice.
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When Jackson showed up, it was not like
the first time at all.
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Oh, oh.
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This time he's just like, what's up,
Jackson?
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Tell me what's happened before I come up
here.
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He'd won time deliberately.
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Oh, really? But he hasn't had that
fighting, like, desire.
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Like, I got to get out of here. Get out
of this house, like you were saying.
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If there's not that biological
imperative to go out there and populate,
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he going to do? Come home. Come home and
eat. Yeah, exactly. So Michael seems
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relaxed. Everything seems fine. Now,
Chris, something is definitely not
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right with her. There's just a weird
vibe coming off of her.
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So do you resent the fact that you're
scooping litter boxes?
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When we first met, you kept talking
about how it was the man's job. Yeah, I
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still think it's the man's job.
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You don't see women, like, digging holes
with shovels. You know what I mean?
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Well, yeah, you do.
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Well, sure you do. But, I mean, maybe
not you.
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Maybe not as much.
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Here's the thing that I fear. I fear
that, like, I'm going to walk out of
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and as soon as I walk out of here,
you're going to be like, I'm done.
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I mean, if you guys don't come to some
kind of sustainable agreement.
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about what jobs get done, then Kitty
will be responsible for you guys going
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on each other. I think Chris can keep up
doing the work for a week.
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What do you think, Chris?
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Can you do it for a week more?
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I don't know.
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Tell me about the trip to the vet. I
didn't get to go.
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You didn't get to go?
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No, I had to work.
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Okay. I took the cat to the vet. How
does that work? You were supposed to be
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vet cop.
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You're supposed to do that.
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I find that completely wrong.
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Unacceptable to put it in Michael's lap.
This is a big thing in her cat's life.
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You want to be a guardian?
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You want to be an advocate?
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Act like it. I took Kitty and then the
only thing I had a problem with was they
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wanted to put a chip in Kitty. I
wouldn't want to chip in myself, so why
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in my animal?
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It doesn't put out anything like a GPS.
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It's inert. It's not a frequency.
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No, it's nothing, like a barcode,
basically.
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Under 2 % of all cats that get brought
to the shelter find their way home
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With a chip in them...
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It goes up to about 53%. A routine part
of getting your cat spayed or neutered
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is also getting them microchipped. It's
accepted practice now. It's a way to get
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cats home if they get lost.
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Well, I wasn't sure what she was going
to think either about the chip. Well,
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which would have been solved if you were
there.
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You seem very calm about this, but this
was the position that you were in from
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the day I met you, which was that you
were on the hook for things.
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While Chris gets off the hook. I'm the
bad guy. You are the bad guy. I'm sorry
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to say this because you weren't there.
You could have made the appointment with
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both of you. You could have been there.
Your specific directions for me was for
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you to be the person to go. I would be
fine if he didn't go.
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I'm not fine that you didn't go.
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So the problem is that Michael gets to
be the one who.
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He gets to get resentful because he's
sitting there getting lectured by the
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to make these decisions without talking
to Chris.
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Don't put more fuel in the fire.
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When Jackson was giving her a little
taste of medicine that I have to deal
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I was like... Enjoying it. Go, Jackson.
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Come on.
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Someone's got to stick up for me. Kind
of vengeful.
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No, not vengeful.
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Okay.
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Last time we were here, we had some
major issues.
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Oh, hello.
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There is a bunch of pee dripping down.
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Oh, my God.
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Since the neutering one time. Right.
Now, on a bigger note, the fact is it's
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only happened one time. One time. It
happened right after he got neutered,
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means it's more biological than it is a
choice. Kitty's not peeing in the house
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anymore because Kitty got neutered. And
without his testosterone running his
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life, he doesn't feel that need to
territorially mark every piece of the
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anymore. Now, who cleaned up that pee?
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Me. You did?
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Yeah. She did.
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I think I was going to touch that.
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Congratulations.
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No, seriously.
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You cleaned up pee, you're scooping, and
you're feeding.
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It definitely felt good that Jackson
recognized the good job I've been doing
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cleaning up, especially after the hard
time he gave me about the vet.
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Ah, it's good to see you, buddy.
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Now, tell me what's been going on with
playtime with him. Oh, he's great. Watch
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this.
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Watch this.
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He's just a... Oh, hello. He just loves
it.
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Hey, I'm going to get out of the way.
Yeah. I want to see you play with him.
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And now you're doing this with him every
day?
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Yeah. He's just so happy. Yeah. That's
great, dude. That's a good thing. Yeah.
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Definitely. Good boy.
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Not only has Michael been playing with
Kitty...
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But there's this element of investment.
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There's this element of fascination. And
when people get fascinated with their
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cats, I know I got them. How is your
feeding schedule right now?
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I just give it to him whenever he
doesn't have any and he meows.
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For your homework this time, I really
want you guys to now get together.
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So what I want you to do, you continue
your play with him, exhaust him, then
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food. The only time he gets food is when
this is happening. When this is done
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and he's exhausted, then we go for food.
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Cool? All right. Let's go.
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If Chris wants to try being a
responsible pet guardian, she can start
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just feeding Kitty the right foods, but
feeding him at least two to three times
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a day. Try doing it after playtime in
the morning and right before bedtime as
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well. By the time I get back here next
time, I want you to come up with a
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sustainable model.
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how, going forward, you guys are
predictably going to take care of
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way we're getting rid of the resentment
that you're doing everything in the
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world and you're not doing anything, or
that you feel like you shouldn't be
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doing so much scooping and Michael
should be doing more.
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Now the two of you can be doing the fun
things together.
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Now, Chris, you have an extra little
piece of homework this week. Okay.
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I want you to get him microchipped.
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Okay. Okay, good.
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So, it's been great.
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Thank you so much. Hey, you're totally
welcome.
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We'll see you guys in a few weeks, all
right? See you. Take care. See you.
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Bye, guys.
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If they want success with Kitty, they
had better both step it up, both invest
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the workforce. It might as well be the
end of Kitty.
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I'm going in for my final visit with
Michael, Chris, and their cat, Kitty.
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Hey. Look at him.
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Here. You missed her?
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Now, here's the thing I'm a little
worried about. The last time I was here,
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Chris actually missed Kitty's neutering
appointment, which I thought was a big
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deal. Tell me about the trip to the vet.
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I didn't get to go.
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She wasn't taking responsibility after I
asked her to be bad cop and really do a
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lot of the work. So all I'm asking for
this time, she get the microchip put in
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Kitty, and I hope that she at least did
that.
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So, Chris, did you go to the vet?
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You got nothing to tell me.
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He's going to find out, Chris. I think I
was a little late.
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You were what?
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I think I was a little late. What's a
little late?
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I don't know, like ten minutes?
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An hour?
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But, you know, she made it there.
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Oh, listen to you, man.
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Oh, playing Prince Charming all of a
sudden. I got to come here and be the
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guy. That's great. That's fine because I
get to leave. That's all well and good.
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You did get the microchip done. I did.
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Now, also, Chris, the first time I met
you, you were all about anything that
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any element of work to it was a man's
job.
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That's my favorite part. We're doing 50
-50.
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What's your favorite part? That she's
doing half the responsibility.
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You're actually doing 50 -50. Yeah, we
are. We're 50 -50.
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I don't have to ask. Chris doesn't have
to ask me lately. It's not as much
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bickering back and forth.
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That's impressive.
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I don't mind doing it like 50 -50
because I feel bad now.
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He has to do it all by himself.
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That was a pretty adult thing for her to
say and not something that I expected.
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She empathized with Michael. She
understood that it was a lot of work for
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and it was time for her to take it on as
well.
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So, Chris, you being the 50 % part of
this equation, I'd like to see you play
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with him just a little bit. See if I
can...
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See how you're doing and maybe give you
a little pointer as you go, okay?
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Kitty.
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Good. Let's get him moving around the
room.
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Good, Chris. Move with him a little bit.
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Let's see you go a little more towards
the center of the room.
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Great. I wanted to see Chris play with
Kitty.
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Basically, I wanted to see if she got
the routine down, if she understood how
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play with him. Use it like the flyer. I
mean, she's not perfect yet, by any
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means.
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She's doing better. Chris, your
turnaround in terms of how you approach
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and how you approach your relationship
with Kitty is...
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Really amazing.
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You now are a cat guardian. You're not
just somebody who says, I like cats and
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just want to pet them. You got the badge
now.
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You got your guardian badge, exactly.
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All right, guys, it's been a pleasure.
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I am a lot happier. She's not yelling.
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I'm not having to run outside.
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Kitty doesn't feel like Kitty's trapped
in a box. I need to get out and ruin
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things. It makes all of our lives better
now that Kitty feels better. Bye, guys.
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Bye, Kitty. Bye.
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Eddie can be sweet and then turn on you
and attack.
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She usually rips my hand apart.
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I don't agree with the way he plays with
her.
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We desperately need Jack's help.
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Eddie is ruling our life right now.
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I'm on my way over now to see Don and
Joy and their cat, Addie.
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Addie is a really aggressive cat.
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Oh, wow.
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Joy blames it squarely on the fact that
Don plays roughly with the cat.
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I'm looking at a cat right now that is
tearing this couple apart literally and
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figuratively.
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I'm Joy. I'm Don.
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We met in college.
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She didn't really like me, actually.
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Then we became friends, and then took
off from there.
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We've been together for about 14 years
now.
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Been married for three.
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We have a cat, Addie. She's about eight
years old. I rescued her, even though he
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said he didn't want a cat.
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I'm a dog person.
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I grew up with dogs. I never had a cat.
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Addie can be sweet, and then next thing
you know, just turn on you and attack.
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She will scratch, like, rip clothes.
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She usually rips my hand apart.
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She's got the nickname known as the
devil.
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There are times where she's sitting
there, and it's like her eyes are
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you like, I want to mess you up.
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Eddie's caused a few arguments. There's
definitely bickering.
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I don't agree with the way he plays with
her.
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He thinks you like playing with her.
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I think just the guy instinct is to play
rough with the cat.
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And he does things on purpose to, like,
squeeze her tail.
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I don't squeeze her tail. I touch her
tail.
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He touches her tail. But why do you
touch it? Because you know she doesn't
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it. I don't think one thing has to do
with the other.
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Like, she jumps on the cat stand.
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I know she wants to play rough.
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I'm going to disagree with that.
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I'm going to say she jumps on the cat
stand maybe to play, but I don't think
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she's like, come on, Don, play rough.
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Yes, she does.
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We desperately need Jack's help.
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Eddie's ruling our life right now. We're
out of options. We just don't know what
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to do anymore.
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00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:39,870
Hey.
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Hi. How are you?
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Joy. Hey, Joy. Don. Hi, Don. I'm Jack.
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
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So.
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Tell me, what brings me today?
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Addie.
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Addie. We just don't trust her because
she will time.
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She has split personality.
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I think why she gets rough sometimes is
because he plays rough with her.
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But I also know when to stop and then I
can go and pet her and she's fine.
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Which I think is just like telling her,
oh, good job.
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What's the worst injury that's happened?
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Here with somebody.
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Bring that over here.
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Damn, man.
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People see my hand and they're like, oh,
did you get in a fight? And I'm like,
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no, I have a cat.
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There's plenty of clothes that are
thrown away because there's holes in
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from her trying to pick her up. And then
she just latches and shreds.
465
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Oh, hello.
466
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Now, I'll tell you right off the bat,
that makes me a little nervous.
467
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:43,220
When I'm sitting here and she's sitting
over at the top of my head.
468
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,120
We've had people over, and you have to
walk by her.
469
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,400
And as you do that?
470
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Yeah.
471
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,440
One step in the door, and she's on them.
472
00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:52,660
Oh, wow, really? Yeah.
473
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,060
She'll swipe at them and hit.
474
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,140
Oh. So now we just don't ever entertain.
475
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Yeah. Nobody can come over the house.
476
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:04,580
Where are you at with her at this point?
She couldn't get rid of Addie, and I
477
00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:06,340
would. Oh, really?
478
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,380
I've told him the fine print on her
marriage license was...
479
00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:12,929
Addie stays?
480
00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:15,390
Yeah. Oh, good. Okay, at least I know
those things.
481
00:26:15,850 --> 00:26:20,270
What I'd like to see now is I want to
see how you play with her, okay? And
482
00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:21,229
switch places.
483
00:26:21,230 --> 00:26:22,230
All right.
484
00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:30,550
Wow.
485
00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:37,230
That is fairly different, huh?
486
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:40,550
I guess playing rough with Addie is my
way of...
487
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,340
Make it up for not having a dog.
488
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,420
So, Joy, when you see this, what?
489
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Tell me what you're thinking right now.
490
00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:53,600
No, I'm just, it's not like she's
playing. She just told him clearly,
491
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,600
don't want to mess with you.
492
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Now she's removing.
493
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Dogs and cats, quite simply, are really
different when it comes to play. I mean,
494
00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:03,540
dogs, you've seen dogs. They love to
wrestle around with you. Cats don't do
495
00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:05,680
that. Cats play equals pray.
496
00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:09,330
It's all about hunting. So if your hand
gets into the mix, what's your hand?
497
00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:13,270
Your hand is a target, it's prey, it'll
get bit, and you'll be very unhappy.
498
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:18,230
Now, what I like to do is spend a little
bit of time with her myself.
499
00:27:18,730 --> 00:27:19,730
Okay, good luck.
500
00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:21,750
I love when they say that.
501
00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:24,290
Addie, baby.
502
00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:25,750
How we doing?
503
00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:26,970
Hi.
504
00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:28,250
Can I come pet you?
505
00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:31,190
No? Okay, it's okay.
506
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:34,510
You don't like that, huh?
507
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,840
The amazing thing about you, baby, no
blood.
508
00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:41,660
You could do so much more damage on me,
baby, and you're not doing it.
509
00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:43,420
What if I really get you going?
510
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,200
All right, all right. It was really
clear to me that Addie was just trying
511
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,080
communicate with me. She was telling me
that I was frightening her, and when I
512
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,480
pushed her even further, she had no
choice but to attack me. Now, that
513
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,140
is good news. What that's telling me is
that she's rational, she's making good
514
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:03,140
choices,
515
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Unpredictable. It's just when I pushed
the limit that I got what was coming to
516
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,040
me. All right, babe.
517
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,920
Let's play a little bit.
518
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,600
After I got Addie all riled up, I tried
to calm her down.
519
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:16,900
Addie, girl.
520
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,840
So I broke out different toys.
521
00:28:19,340 --> 00:28:22,260
You don't like this one very much, do
you? All right, baby. I'm going to try
522
00:28:22,260 --> 00:28:23,260
something different.
523
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:26,700
Nothing.
524
00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:33,720
Nothing? Nothing.
525
00:28:35,020 --> 00:28:39,420
As a stranger, she just wouldn't forgive
me. She just associated me with being
526
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:40,700
kind of a mean president.
527
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,520
What about this?
528
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:44,760
Oh, I know.
529
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,360
What's this?
530
00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:55,980
There you go, baby.
531
00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:01,580
Finally, I broke out a treat that she
likes to have, and she just gobbled it
532
00:29:01,580 --> 00:29:03,540
right up. Can you come out and say hi?
533
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,360
Good girl.
534
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,940
The great thing about Addie is that
she's such a forgiving cat, and that
535
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:12,760
me hope not just for her, but for her
relationship with Don.
536
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:14,340
Good girl.
537
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,540
Wow. That was, uh... How was she? She
was interesting.
538
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,820
Bad news first is that I, you know, I
did get beat up pretty good by her. The
539
00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:29,100
good news is that this level of beating
up took me continually putting my hands
540
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,420
in her face. She inhibits her bites to
say, warning.
541
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:38,170
And then probably if you kept coming at
her, if you kept doing this stroke even
542
00:29:38,170 --> 00:29:43,810
after she warned you, which no rational
human being would do, I
543
00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:46,890
mean, then you would get bit.
544
00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:51,830
So I was acting as a very irrational
human being to prove a point with her.
545
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:53,550
social development as a kitten was
complete.
546
00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:58,030
I have found out that when she's on the
floor, she doesn't feel threatened
547
00:29:58,030 --> 00:30:02,410
remotely. She gets up on the top of that
cat tree, we got problems.
548
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,900
So we know what to avoid.
549
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,420
I think that you guys are also setting
it up in a number of different ways.
550
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080
There's a lot of, like, people
malfunctions going on here. Okay.
551
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,059
All right?
552
00:30:13,060 --> 00:30:17,900
Don't think you really get it in the
back of your head yet what cat mojo is,
553
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,360
that's what I'm here to teach you guys.
So the homework is going to be part
554
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,860
about her, part about you guys.
555
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,120
Okay. All right? You ready?
556
00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:27,040
Yes. All right, let's lay it on.
557
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:28,360
First, of course, Don.
558
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:32,870
I hate to tell you this, but the way you
play with her is done. You can't do it
559
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:33,910
anymore. Okay. Period.
560
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:38,350
Look at how vindicated Joy feels right
now. She's like, that's right.
561
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:43,410
No, but I mean, honestly, I want you to
find different ways with different toys
562
00:30:43,410 --> 00:30:47,110
to get her killing something that
doesn't involve flesh.
563
00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:49,970
You guys are talking about all the
shirts that have been ripped up.
564
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:53,290
she likes that kind of fabric. She likes
going into it. So pick your T -shirts.
565
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:57,250
You rip them up. You make a long toy out
of it. You don't have to spend all this
566
00:30:57,250 --> 00:31:02,080
money. The other thing is she loves
being in the window, right? She loves
567
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,500
able to look out the window, but we
don't want her by the door that as soon
568
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:09,040
somebody walks in, we have trouble. So
where does this go? Over here. Out of
569
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,440
way, no problems.
570
00:31:10,740 --> 00:31:12,040
Start thinking cat.
571
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:13,700
That's really important, okay?
572
00:31:14,140 --> 00:31:17,160
What happens that says to you guys, oh,
trouble ahead.
573
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,340
So let's get going on this, and it's
been great meeting you. Thank you very
574
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:24,400
much. Hey, you're totally welcome. Thank
you very much. You're welcome.
575
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,120
We'll talk to you soon. Okay.
576
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,480
Bye, baby.
577
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,700
I'll give you the minute you go up to
her right away.
578
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000
Oh, yeah, you just said not to do that.
We just got homework not to do that, and
579
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
you touch her.
580
00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:54,400
So the last time I was here, Don and Joy
couldn't have friends or
581
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,890
family over because of their aggressive
cat, Addie. And Don... A die -hard dog
582
00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:02,370
guy was adding fuel to the fire because
he was playing with the cat rough like a
583
00:32:02,370 --> 00:32:07,810
dog. Don is playing nice with Addie. You
can see the cat stand is no longer by
584
00:32:07,810 --> 00:32:08,569
the door.
585
00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:13,210
So this is Joy playing with Addie, tail
by her tail. She's getting excited.
586
00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:15,050
I've seen their video homework.
587
00:32:15,250 --> 00:32:19,130
I'm really encouraged by what I'm
seeing. All I can hope for is that the
588
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:21,730
mellowed out just a little bit and the
attacks have stopped.
589
00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:24,370
Hello!
590
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,820
I definitely was not expecting that when
he walked in with that cat suit.
591
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000
I have a shirt just like that.
592
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:35,700
You're going to have more than that.
593
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,460
Today is about thinking cat.
594
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,700
This is for you.
595
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,020
This would be your cat.
596
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:47,860
When I was putting on that cat suit, I
really thought, oh, gosh, Don is going
597
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:48,860
kill me.
598
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,200
For you, sir.
599
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:53,120
Let's get these suckers on.
600
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,040
This is going to be more fun for me.
601
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,120
There is a reason for doing this.
602
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:03,840
Don just does not get cats. I mean, he
is a diehard dog guy.
603
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:06,060
Great. I'm going to wear a onesie in
forever.
604
00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:09,400
Oh, look, I even got a little flapping
pooch like Eddie.
605
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:14,320
To get Eddie on the right track, it was
time to take Don and Joy on a walk down
606
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,199
Kitty Lane.
607
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,920
So, you're a cat. You walk into a room.
608
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,560
The first thing that's important to you
is ownership.
609
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:25,540
The way cats own things is they mark
them. Talk to me about what you think.
610
00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:28,430
Cat marking is. She rubs up against it.
611
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:29,630
Okay, where?
612
00:33:29,670 --> 00:33:30,670
Her back.
613
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:31,730
She does her side.
614
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:33,690
Yeah. All right, so let's do it. Let's
do it.
615
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:35,950
Let's do it. Thank you very much.
616
00:33:36,390 --> 00:33:37,390
That's very good.
617
00:33:37,470 --> 00:33:40,210
Joy, you'll be my first cat subject. Own
the couch.
618
00:33:40,650 --> 00:33:41,650
Own that couch.
619
00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:48,190
Great. What you just did was you used
your side, right? Yeah. Stent glands all
620
00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:52,150
down the side, right? Where else? Oh,
and then brushing the cheek.
621
00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:53,490
All right, do it.
622
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,340
Exactly, and you did it in the perfect
place.
623
00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:04,480
You're laughing, man. I wanted Joy and
Don to understand what's natural. You
624
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,860
walk into a room, and you start to rub
up against things. Where are your scent
625
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:12,139
glands in the cat? Down your side, top
of your head, your cheeks, your paws,
626
00:34:12,139 --> 00:34:15,800
of those places. That's how you mark
things in a healthy way. So I had them
627
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,239
it. I had them mark places that they
would think was important if they were a
628
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,340
cat. Don, you're next. Where else would
you... How would you mark? I don't know.
629
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,719
I'd, like, scratch it. There you go.
Come down here.
630
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,219
I'm going to be your person. Okay. All
right? So I'm sitting here. You're my
631
00:34:30,219 --> 00:34:31,219
cat. Dude.
632
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,960
And you scratch, right?
633
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,719
Think about this. What purpose is that
serving right now?
634
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,760
Nothing, really.
635
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,580
Just get her... No, big cat. She wants
to own the couch.
636
00:34:42,860 --> 00:34:45,940
Own the couch. Now let's talk about
that. How did you just own the couch?
637
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,659
is she doing it because you're right
there?
638
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,659
I am part of the territory.
639
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:52,420
When she walks into the room, she says,
I have to own the room. What's the most
640
00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:53,980
important part of the room? Me.
641
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:56,719
That's her way of saying, yeah, we
belong together.
642
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,700
So she's going to scratch here.
643
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:05,020
That's a visual and scent marker because
between every paw is more scent glands.
644
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:11,760
So she's leaving visual and scent. And
that way, you, my cat, own me and the
645
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,800
couch as well, right?
646
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,500
Why the couch? Because we sit there. Our
scent is strong there, so of course the
647
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:19,220
cat wants to compliment that scent.
648
00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:20,920
Now they got that as well.
649
00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:23,800
Now the second set was, what about play?
650
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,160
Don, take the toy.
651
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,460
How would you normally play with Addie
right about now? Throw it on the ground
652
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:31,120
and just kind of... Joy?
653
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,480
I would look at it.
654
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,380
Why? Tell me exactly why.
655
00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:36,840
It just gets my attention. If that
didn't work, then I'd...
656
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,420
Like, put it on her head so she sees it.
And you want to know what I do then?
657
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:41,740
Get that away from me.
658
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:42,839
But now she knows it's there.
659
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,900
What? What is that?
660
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,180
Joy had said that Tom was a pretty bad
player when it came to Addie. So it was
661
00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:52,160
my chance to teach him what it's like to
be a healthy hunter.
662
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,660
So the thing I'm missing from you as the
guy doing the playing right now, be the
663
00:35:56,660 --> 00:36:02,640
bird. So, Joy, you start working it. And
until you feel like if you were a cat,
664
00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:03,900
you would go for it, just...
665
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,940
Ignore it. You know what I mean? Which
cats are very good at doing. It's just
666
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:08,940
completely ignoring stuff.
667
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,819
Oh, good.
668
00:36:21,820 --> 00:36:25,640
Good, good, good, good, good. When Don
dove after that toy and just was
669
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,180
instinctively trying to kill that thing,
I knew he was in.
670
00:36:29,380 --> 00:36:31,180
Now I'm a lot more hopeful than I was.
671
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,280
Now, last step to this whole thing.
672
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:35,060
Let's go outside.
673
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,860
Things outside are so important to cats,
and everything that we bring inside in
674
00:36:38,860 --> 00:36:43,140
terms of environmental enrichment and
play enrichment all stems from what's
675
00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:46,620
here. Let's say Addie was indoor
-outdoor. What would she do marking
676
00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:47,519
here?
677
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Go for it.
678
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:50,900
Let me see it, man. Let me see it.
679
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:53,340
Beautiful. Are you seeing what Addie
does?
680
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,280
No. Addie sticks her butt out.
681
00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:59,280
I'm going to come over and do it with
you. All right, here we go. Ready? All
682
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,500
three of us. As you're pulling down, A,
you're leaving Mark.
683
00:37:02,990 --> 00:37:07,390
B, you're exercising this area right
here. And C, you're trimming claws.
684
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:12,110
There's so many things involved in that
one motion. The piece that you guys have
685
00:37:12,110 --> 00:37:15,830
in there that she tends to lie on, show
me how far you can scratch with that
686
00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:16,830
thing.
687
00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:18,350
There you go.
688
00:37:18,810 --> 00:37:21,010
Should we attach the scratcher to the
wall?
689
00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:24,970
Now you're thinking. That's exactly
right. Now you're doing the mojo. These
690
00:37:24,970 --> 00:37:26,150
were the most amazing sports.
691
00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:31,190
I mean, really. Joy came up with the
concept of a wall -mounted scratcher.
692
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:32,630
right, guys, let's go back inside. Come
on.
693
00:37:32,890 --> 00:37:37,110
After the exercises, I'm starting to
appreciate Addie now, knowing, you know,
694
00:37:37,110 --> 00:37:39,370
little bit of their behavior and
understanding it more.
695
00:37:39,610 --> 00:37:40,610
Have a seat, guys.
696
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:46,030
Let's find out what I missed the last
couple of weeks while you've been
697
00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:51,330
with Addie. Tell me about it. We went
out of town for a few days, and we had
698
00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:55,110
girl that usually watches our cats come
over. The last day, she went to feed
699
00:37:55,110 --> 00:37:57,430
Addie, and she went and lunged at her
and bit her.
700
00:37:58,770 --> 00:37:59,770
Yeah.
701
00:38:01,319 --> 00:38:03,060
One leg. On the leg? Yeah.
702
00:38:03,260 --> 00:38:07,700
I still think it's kind of a positive
thing because usually it was every day.
703
00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:11,940
One attack is still one too many. That
means they can't have a cat sitter come
704
00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:15,960
in. They can't have friends come in.
They can't leave the house. So until we
705
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,860
take care of this, we've still got a lot
of work to do.
706
00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:21,500
Now, why don't you guys get out of those
cat suits when you get back. We'll talk
707
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,279
about your homework.
708
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,500
Hey, I felt fantastic about Joey and
Don's progress today. First of all, the
709
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:30,520
willingness. To put on those cat suits
and to run around this neighborhood and
710
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,860
have fun pretending to be cats, that's
huge because I feel the investment from
711
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:38,620
these two. They care about their cat,
and that means that I can feel more
712
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:39,620
positive about the outcome.
713
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Well, good, guys.
714
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Thanks for doing that. It's going to pay
off, I think. Let me start giving you
715
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,180
this week's homework.
716
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:54,460
I'd like you to go to a shelter, and I'd
like you to just spend one day per
717
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:56,460
week giving some dogs some attention.
718
00:38:56,970 --> 00:39:01,090
You just have them act like dogs and
bond with people, which, of course, they
719
00:39:01,090 --> 00:39:06,090
need to do. So it's a great way of
getting your dog fixed and also getting
720
00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:07,090
dogs adopted.
721
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:14,670
On the heels of getting your dog mojo
fixed, get into the love of the cat.
722
00:39:14,910 --> 00:39:18,190
Donathan died in the wool dog person. He
has been his whole life.
723
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:23,570
I want him to enjoy and to love Addie
for what she is, a cat. I'd like you to
724
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:24,570
start journaling.
725
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,380
Just by looking at Addie, what is it
that you love?
726
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:34,340
I want you to love Addie for being a
cat, not for being not a dog. You know
727
00:39:34,340 --> 00:39:37,500
I mean? I want you to love her for what
she is.
728
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,180
Finally, I'd like for you to have a
friend over and see how Addie does. When
729
00:39:41,180 --> 00:39:45,220
people come over, it's about reframing,
saying, you know, hey, we're doing a
730
00:39:45,220 --> 00:39:47,860
little training with Addie, so ignore
her.
731
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,440
That's what we'll do moving forward
because I want to see your family come
732
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,100
here and not think of this one as the
devil.
733
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,379
Yeah. Okay.
734
00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:57,800
I'm going to pet out. All right. Thank
you. Good to see you.
735
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:02,780
I'm just a little hesitant to have our
friends back over.
736
00:40:03,020 --> 00:40:04,020
We'll see you soon.
737
00:40:04,340 --> 00:40:08,640
Who knows? The person might go to pet
her and then just turn on you and
738
00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:15,660
I'm heading in for my last visit with
Joy and Don and their cat, Addie. Joy
739
00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:18,500
Don told me they had really invested in
the homework, and they did.
740
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:23,450
So today we came to the Humane Society
down the street from us. Don is getting
741
00:40:23,450 --> 00:40:24,750
his dog fixation.
742
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:28,410
I mean, these guys are really starting
to think like cats, and I wasn't
743
00:40:28,410 --> 00:40:30,430
expecting that, especially out of Don.
744
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:38,230
But at the end of the day, she's an
overstimulatable cat who is prone to
745
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:40,190
aggression, and I'm not sure what to
expect.
746
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,590
Hello. Hey, Joy. How are you? How are
you doing? Good.
747
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:47,250
How's life with Addie?
748
00:40:48,970 --> 00:40:53,870
Well, she's been a lot more relaxed.
She's been very affectionate. Really?
749
00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:55,089
It's been great.
750
00:40:55,090 --> 00:40:56,290
It's amazing. Quick turnaround.
751
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:59,690
After you guys have some friends over,
tell me about that.
752
00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:02,130
We had people over for a couple hours to
watch a basketball game.
753
00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:03,750
Yeah.
754
00:41:05,770 --> 00:41:08,910
And she never went up to them once?
Yeah.
755
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:12,470
Amazing. This is great.
756
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:14,190
She just laid there.
757
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:17,310
That, and I actually had a friend come
over.
758
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,560
It's never been over before. I turn
around, and he's just petting her with
759
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,600
hands. Are you kidding me? I was like,
whoa.
760
00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:27,540
And he's like, what? And I was like,
nothing.
761
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,200
Nothing. Oh, nothing.
762
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,360
Very nice. Yeah, I was excited.
763
00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:34,040
Now, that's progress, right?
764
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:38,440
Since Jackson's helped, I feel like we
got our life back. We can start planning
765
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,680
to go out of town. We can have friends
over. Not only do we not have to worry
766
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,800
about going out of town and worry about
who's watching or we don't.
767
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,280
I don't have to worry about bickering
about her. There's nothing to worry
768
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,020
anymore. That's pretty stupendous,
right?
769
00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:59,100
Also, as part of your homework, I'd ask
you to sort of make a list that you like
770
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,340
about cats on both sides.
771
00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:01,620
All right, let's hear it.
772
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:05,500
Love it when she plays hide -and -seek.
She, like, meows when I sneeze.
773
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:09,020
It's hilarious, yeah. Three times in a
row, she'll do it every time.
774
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:13,120
When she just comes up to me like that.
There's no talking about me.
775
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:14,540
Oh.
776
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,600
Wow.
777
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,540
And usually she just stays on my lap,
but, like, recently she started walking
778
00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:27,480
his lap. I'm totally seeing that. Wow.
779
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,120
Huh.
780
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,940
Yeah. Isn't it weird when I'm surprised?
781
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,340
Well, it's just amazing because.
782
00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:35,860
Is she? Yeah.
783
00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:45,510
Watching her right now and how
comfortable she is, she's loving every
784
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:49,510
what both of you guys are doing, which
is not what I saw the first time I came
785
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:50,169
over here.
786
00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:54,430
Addie is not just calmer. Addie is
grounded. She's present because Don and
787
00:42:54,430 --> 00:42:58,250
get the cat mojo now, and they cater to
the way that Addie thinks.
788
00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:01,910
So instead of egging her on and getting
her more and more amped up every day,
789
00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:05,210
instead they're always draining that
energy out and keeping her grounded.
790
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:06,390
They've done an amazing job.
791
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:13,380
really props to you in terms of your
sensitivity to what cats need.
792
00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:16,660
At first, I was thinking that there was
no way this was going to work.
793
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:21,900
There wasn't so much her having to work
on things. It was us that we had to work
794
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:24,560
on. Do you still wish that Addie was a
dog?
795
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,000
No, I would say I don't wish she was a
dog. I appreciate her now for who she
796
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:29,919
being a cat.
797
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,460
No, he's a dog and cat lover.
798
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,280
Cool.
799
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:36,320
There was a moment today.
800
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:43,630
Where I was watching Don draw Addie out,
he had cat mojo.
801
00:43:45,490 --> 00:43:48,210
And I knew right then I could leave. All
right, guys.
802
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:50,209
It's been wonderful.
803
00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:52,470
Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Thank
you. All right.
804
00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:54,130
Bye, Addie.
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