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Sina will have breakout attacks.
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My son Chris doesn't understand what's
going on. He's afraid to be in his own
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room because there's a cat growling
under his bed.
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Gigi was very affectionate, but when we
introduced the kittens, he's basically
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had a complete personal alter change.
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Gigi's attacks are normally focused on
Princess Fuki, but there's collateral
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damage as well.
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I'm Jackson
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Galaxy. I'm a musician
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by night and a cat behaviorist by day.
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I've met cats with all kinds of
problems.
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But I've never met one I couldn't help.
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Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked
with thousands of cats one -on -one,
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analyzing their behaviors and retraining
them and their guardians.
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When relationships are at an end, I
don't have many more options than to
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leave. And cat guardians have reached
their emotional limit. Just get rid of
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her. I'm their last hope.
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Are you all right?
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Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine
lives, but humans?
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Only have one.
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Whoa!
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Ow! Ow!
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I'm heading over to Jen's house and her
five -year -old son, Chris, and their
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cat, Zena.
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Xena's been acting out unpredictably,
seemingly unprovoked, and with a lot of
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violence.
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I'm looking at footage right now. It's
basically cat versus child, and you know
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that's never going to end well. I'm
going to get over there right now and
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I can help out.
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I'm Jen. I live here with my parents.
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and my son Chris, who's five years old,
and Xena, my one -year -old cat.
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I got Xena when she was just three weeks
old. Xena was very playful, very
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energetic, and my son Chris fell in love
with him.
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For the last few months, Xena goes
through sporadic
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freakouts. Be nice.
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And then she'll start tearing through
the house.
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screaming and hissing.
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My dad teaches vocal lessons out of his
office in the house.
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You need to go now.
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Zeno will have one of her freak -out
attacks.
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She'll latch herself onto his chair or
under his bed.
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Really?
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My dad is so frustrated with the cat
that he's ready to see her go.
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You have to be able to work in here.
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If this behavior isn't stopped in some
way, the cat can no longer be in the
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house.
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And the end of that story is obvious,
which Jeff's response then is, fine,
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you explain to my son why that cat has
to die.
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Are you scared having her under your
bed, baby? Yeah.
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Chris doesn't understand what's going
on. There's been times that he's tried
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play with Xena, and she just lashes out.
She's scratched him already.
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He's afraid to be in his own room
because there's a cat growling under his
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Are you scared of her?
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Okay, what do you want to have happen to
Zena?
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I want her to feel better.
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Yeah?
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Jackson, please help us. I know that
something is going on with Zena, and
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the only one that I know that might be
able to help.
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How are you? Good. I'm Jen. Jen, I'm
Jackson. Come on in. As soon as Jackson
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walked in the door, I was like, oh, my
gosh, it's him. He's here.
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How's the day going?
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So far, so good.
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Zena's been locked in the bathroom most
of the day.
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Oh.
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Yeah. So what's going on with Zena?
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She kind of goes into these episodes
where her ears go back and she starts
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growling and hissing and scratches at
me.
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Ow! Ow!
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The only way that I can ever get her out
of those episodes.
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is if I literally go in the back, take a
towel, burrito her in the towel, and
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hold her like a stinking baby.
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How long has it been going on since you
just started doing this?
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It's been about four months.
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She had gotten out. You said that she
got out? So she didn't normally go out?
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No, no. Right after that was when she
had her first incident. She was in the
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backyard, and my son came running into
the house screaming, going, Mom, Xena's
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freaking out. And she was running in
circles around the house.
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screaming. And so I took her straight to
the vet and they ran a bunch of tests.
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They can't figure out anything.
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She's still freaking out like that?
Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, Jen's giving me bits and
pieces of very specific information, but
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of it is lining up for me at all. And I
feel like this is a road I've never been
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down before. I'm glad that Chris was out
there.
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Because Chris is going to be our main
link to that information.
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Right. Mind if I go say hi? Go for it.
All right, I'll be back.
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I figured the only way I could get
information that did make sense was to
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to the only witness to the crime, and
that was her five -year -old son, Chris.
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Is Zena your buddy?
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Yes, but sometimes she hisses and
squashes.
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Zena did that?
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Yeah. Okay, so you're out there with her
and your dog, and you were playing.
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And then she flipped out and...
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It was like running around hissing all
the time. Did that scare you?
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Yes. Yeah, that scared me too.
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Well, you know what?
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Me and you, we're going to go out there,
and we're going to try to figure out
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what happened to her. Come on, let's go,
man.
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So it's raining, and it's raining hard.
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Chris and I grabbed our umbrellas to
recreate exactly what happened so we can
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figure out where we're going.
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Where was Zena when she started hissing?
Let's do it together. Go.
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All right. So we got these circles.
Okay, we're going in circles like that.
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Okay, cool.
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Pretend she's right here, okay? And
she's running around in circles.
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Yep. Now, what did her ears look like?
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They were like... Here, I'll hold this
for you. They were like, they were
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backwards. Backwards, good. Now, tell me
about her eyes. What were her eyes
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doing? They were like this.
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Yeah. Tell me about the noise she was
making. What noise?
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Like that, right? So Chris and I are out
there doing our detective bit. We are
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running around in circles in the pouring
rain, and he finally drops it on me.
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Where were you with Gina?
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Gina was, like, right over here.
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And when I petted her, then I petted
Zina.
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Ah, wait a minute. Now, you were petting
Gina.
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Then you said, I want to pet Zina,
right?
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Yes. Okay, so you came right over here.
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I pet Zena and then you started it.
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That's when it started.
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That one piece of information, he turned
around to play with his cat. Now
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remember, this is the first time that
Zena had ever been in the backyard.
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She's exploring in a very tentative way.
He goes to pet her. She probably didn't
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see him coming. Maybe there was a loud
bang from a school bus or a delivery
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truck. Bang! She goes crazy. And from
that moment on, her life changed.
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All right.
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Wow. That was incredibly good.
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Scooby -Doo work. Another high five,
please.
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That was a high five. Let's go find your
mommy, okay? The next place I wanted to
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see was where the family drama's been
playing out the most, which is her dad's
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music studio.
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He has vocal lessons in here.
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All right, now here she comes.
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She's going into her little area here.
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If you could just go under and just try
to get a pet for me. Sure.
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Show me how you approach her when she's
in this spot and your dad wants her out.
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Okay. Let's see what happens.
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Yeah, there it is.
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Yeah. Hey, baby doll.
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One more time.
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It's okay.
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You're okay, Levi.
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You're okay.
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Chris is scared now.
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I got to see the burrito technique,
okay? Okay.
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So the burrito technique is something
you use to comfort her. Yep.
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Burritoing is taking an animal and
swaddling them tightly to calm them
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Is this what you do?
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Yep. I try to sneak up behind her
because obviously when she sees it, she
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Seeing Jen go through this with Zena is
really hard to watch, but I know that
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this is information that is absolutely
invaluable because this cat's going to
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tell us, I can go here, and once I go
past here, the world turns red.
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Oh, she got you. Oh, yeah.
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Once a week, this is what you wind up
doing. Yeah.
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Where do we have her now? She ran to the
front. I just saw her.
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Now this, now what she's doing now.
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Yeah. This is what you call the fit.
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Uh -huh.
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Xena is now fully running all over the
room. She goes into this place where it
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was like she was seeing ghosts. She was
hearing voices. And then she scooted up
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her little staircase.
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And that's when it hit me. And I figured
out what it was.
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Come on now.
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Dina is fully out there. I asked Jen to
go and try to burrito her. And that's
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where things went horribly wrong.
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And that's when it hit me.
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This was post -traumatic stress
disorder. Oh, good girl.
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Okay, so now she peed on you.
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Mm -hmm.
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This level of hyper -reactivity, of
disassociation, of reliving that, what I
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call this feedback loop of trauma, it
was all right there.
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All right, let her go, let her go, let
her go. It was time now to go sort of
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decompress. Both of us were pretty shook
up at this point.
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I'm really sorry that I had to take her
there, but the information we just got
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was pretty priceless.
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Okay. To me, it's clear cut that this
cat is suffering from PTSD.
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She's clearly in moments of suffering.
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Your son was just killer. We were out
there, and he told me he turned to play
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with Xena.
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That's when she flipped out.
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So just simply trying to pet her could
have caused all this? It's not just
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trying to pet her. At the same time, a
delivery truck could have driven by and
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gone, bang!
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This motion now becomes, for her, a
predictor of bad things to come.
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The wild card X factor here is I don't
think she can see.
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There was something really wrong with
her eyes.
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Cats have what's called a nicotating
membrane or a third eyelid. That
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comes across their eyeballs to basically
protect them against things like dust.
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But if they're thick, it also comes
halfway across to let you know that
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something's not right.
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I'd like you to see a specialist and
figure that out. Good? Great.
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All right. Let me give you some homework
now. The first thing that we're going
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to start doing is introduce her again to
the backyard.
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I want her to do prolonged exposure
therapy.
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That means expose her to the things that
scare her, the sounds of the backyard
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and the smells of the backyard. Find
that challenge line and start expanding
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slowly until she can deal with it again.
We want to get a big piece of sod for
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her to smell. Close to the door,
actually. And then every day with that
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we expose her to the smell as well.
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Okay. I'm psyched. Great. Me too. Good.
Good. I'm going to get out of here. Hey,
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Chris. You want to say goodbye?
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Goodbye, Dustin.
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Goodbye, man. Give me a high five.
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That's right, man.
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I'll see you soon, okay?
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Bye. All right, bye.
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I'm going in right now to see Jen and
Chris and Zena the cat. Now, since the
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last time I was here, Zena was sent to
the ophthalmologist. Just like I
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suspected, the results proved to be a
game changer.
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I honestly don't know what to expect
when I go in here this time. Hey, come
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in. Whether things are settling in or
just getting worse. So, a little crazy?
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Way crazy.
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So you went to the specialist that I
recommended to you. Let's take a look at
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the video homework.
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Hey, sweetie pie.
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We cannot see through the recording.
They're cloudy.
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There's lesions on the retina as well.
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The ophthalmologist confirmed that it's
cataracts.
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The last time I was here, I found out I
had my first PTSD case.
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Now, I've got a cat who's blind and has
PTSD on top of that. The challenge is
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enormous. She might have how much of
sight? 10 % maybe?
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I'm down on the ground like this. I'm
not above her.
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So with the limited sight, this is still
going to be okay.
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So now we have to do eye drop.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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All right.
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Incredibly positive.
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Yay. I don't see that level of fear and
shrinking back.
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That's fantastic.
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I saw a lot of Chris footage and
everything. I didn't see a lot of you in
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Yeah, a lot of it is it's the new job.
Pretty much the only time that I get to
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spend with Xena is when I'm here to give
her her eye drops.
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The only time she's around her cat is
when she's giving her medication.
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Bad association.
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We got to change that.
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It's going to have to be something
that's just not horrible.
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Every time it happens. My wheelhouse
with giving cats eye drops is waiting
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they're just sitting there sleeping and
you announce yourself.
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Remember, with Xena, you always announce
yourself verbally.
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Right. You come down to her level. Hey,
baby, how you doing?
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And then, boink.
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Okay? Now, the next thing I want to do
is take a look around. Okay.
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Office being right there. All right.
Great place to start. Let's go. Sure.
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Xena is basically blind.
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but she does suffer from post -traumatic
stress because of that blindness.
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Taking a look around this environment
was crucial.
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The whole world has to change.
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I remember how contentious it was with
your dad and Xena. How's that going?
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It's a lot better now that my dad
understands that she's in pain.
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You know, he's had eye problems all of
his life, and, I mean, he still has eye
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drops that he has to take. Your dad has
to take eye drops every day. So he gets
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it. That's wonderful.
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Let's keep moving. All right.
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Since this family has gotten the news
that they've got basically a blind cat,
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their attitude has completely changed.
I've got the graph that you said to do.
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And she can sit right in front of the
door, smell, sight, sound. Great. The
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time I was here, I had Jen institute
what's called prolonged exposure therapy
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for the PTSD.
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I wanted her to take the sounds of the
backyard.
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At the same time, I wanted her to have
the smell of the grass, the feel of the
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grass to re -expose Xena to the
backyard. Because we're dealing with
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blind cat.
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It's way too dangerous. It's
irresponsible to send her outside.
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brilliant. All right. Jen, you want to
call for Chris?
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I really wanted to go check in with
Chris. Come over here, man. When you're
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dealing with a cat that's suddenly gone
blind, you have to now cater even more
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to the other senses.
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We've got to start playing with toys
that maybe she can hear them coming, but
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you've got to teach everybody in this
house. You're the cat teacher in this
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house. So you hold on for one second,
because I've got something for you,
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All right.
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I want to see Chris taking the lead.
He's the cat daddy now. I want to give
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something so he remembers who he is,
that he is the cat teacher in this
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You ready?
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And now it's time for a kitty bit.
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Cats can hear up to 1 .6 octaves above
the range of humans and one octave
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than dogs.
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True or false?
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The answer after the break.
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True or false? Cats can hear up to 1 .6
octaves above the range of humans and
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one octave higher than dogs.
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The answer is true.
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I got something for you, okay? All
right.
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I want to see Chris taking the lead. He
is the cat teacher in this house.
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I got a little something for you, buddy.
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I got Chris's own cat daddy guitar case,
which it was just so much fun to bring
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it in for him. You are now the cat daddy
in this house.
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Okay, so let me show you what we got
going on in here. I got toys for her
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make sound.
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There's one. Now watch this.
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Oh, you see? See how she hears it? What
are you doing, baby?
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Now she's a nut.
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You got crinkle balls in here?
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We know she loves crinkle balls. Look at
this thing.
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Chris immediately started interacting
with Xena. He did remind me of the way I
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was when I discovered the cats and I got
along.
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You are the cat teacher in the house.
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It was really one of those cool moments,
you know, because he is the next
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generation of...
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Cat guardian.
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So you promise me you're going to be a
teacher?
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I promise.
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Rock on, Chris.
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We're coming around the home turn here,
so I don't want to see one more attack
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or freak out in those two weeks because
it's important for Chris to have that
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stability of knowledge that this is
normal, not what we saw before. This is
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normal. Great seeing you again, and
we'll see you in a few weeks. All right.
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Sure, Chris feels better about Zena. Her
mom and her dad feel better about Zena.
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But the action plan rests with Jen. This
is not a done deal. Bye.
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I'm going in for my last visit with Jen
and her son Chris and her cat Zena.
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Now, this cat is pretty well blind,
which changed our action plan
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Remember, we were just dealing with...
Post -traumatic stress disorder, which
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was a tall order to begin with.
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Hey, come on in.
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Anything's possible. I don't know what
to expect walking in. Very nice.
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How is it? How's things going?
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Fizzy, but it's good. Yeah, well, of
course.
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Sitting down with Jen was pretty
immediate right away that she was just
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eat. You had your follow -up with the
vet?
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Yeah, she said that she is doing better.
Unfortunately, we can't get the
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lubricant gel into her eyes yet.
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But she still saw improvement.
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In her vision? In her vision. Get out of
here.
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Yay. Amazing.
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Yay.
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Man, let me tell you something. This
eyedrop situation is a challenge for the
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best cat wrangler. So far, she's in a
happy, sleepy mode.
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And Jen's been having a whale of a time
with it. Good girl.
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But still getting the job done. Well, we
got one eye.
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And that deserves a lot of praise.
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Hey, Dad.
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Hey. We ran into Jen's dad, Mike, and I
had an opportunity to ask him how things
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were going in his point of view. He
lives on eye drops now, and I can
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with that. I had a ton of eye problems
and had to do eye drops. I get that.
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What about the way she is or isn't
sharing space with you in your office?
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Things have chilled quite a bit.
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Yeah, if he's there, he kind of kicks it
under the desk.
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Chilling, breathing, we're fine.
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I'm really thankful that Jackson got
involved.
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There's not really a price you can put
on kids having a cool pet.
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Jackson has given his family a big gift.
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I'm just a little sleepy.
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The first time I had come to this home,
I believed squarely.
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that I didn't think that Xena was a safe
cat to be around a five -year -old
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child. You're going fishing for Xena.
There you go, man.
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But from what I've seen, Xena is a more
accepting cat. Nice going, dude.
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Now that we've met with Jackson, she's
not hiding under bed. She doesn't
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automatically get into defense mode, and
she doesn't cause contention in my dad.
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She plays when she's supposed to play.
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I don't know that I could ask for
anything more.
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You've got to understand, from where I
come from, from the shelter world,
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gave up their cats for far less reason.
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Not only are you saving this cat's life,
and you know you've done that, but
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you're teaching that kid.
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He's going to be the reason why we don't
kill cats.
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So thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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I'm so grateful that I get to see Chris
and be best friends.
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Thank you.
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Oh, you rock, man.
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You're amazing.
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I thought it would be nice to get
another rescue.
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And Nick was reluctant.
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I was against the idea because I thought
Gigi would react badly.
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At this point, shall I say I told you
so?
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I'm going over to see Nick and Julie and
their cat Gigi. Hello Gigi.
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Hello Suki.
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Who is terrorizing their new kitten.
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They're afraid that Gigi being the size
she is, she's just going to kill this
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poor little kitten.
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So I'm going over there right now to
make sure that that doesn't happen.
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I'm Julie.
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I'm Nick.
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And we've been together for four and a
half years.
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We're both journalists in the UK and we
were on an assignment in Paris when we
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actually started to get to know each
other. And we got together a few weeks
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later. Say hello, Gigi.
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I don't think you should talk over the
video.
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Gigi's an American short hair. She's a
rescue.
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We got her just over two years ago and I
thought it would be nice to get another
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rescue. And Nick was reluctant.
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I was against the idea because I thought
Gigi would react badly.
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And we were told that she'd been bullied
by the other cat at the centre where
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she was. But I was persuaded to get this
very cute kitten.
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And I don't think it was necessarily a
good idea.
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In hindsight, yes.
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So before we got the kitten, Gigi was
very affectionate. But when we
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the kitten, she basically had a complete
personality change.
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Gigi's attacks are normally focused on
Princess Suki, but there's collateral
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damage as well.
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You can probably see, actually, my lip
and the side of my mouth is all cut
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up and bruised.
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And Gigi did that in the middle of the
night last night.
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In my opinion, Princess Suki, if this
doesn't work out, has to go.
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Hi, Jackson.
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How are you? Very well. How are you
doing?
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I am. How are you, Nick?
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Okay.
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I'm glad I could be here for you. You
must be Julie. Hi, nice to meet you.
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to meet you.
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Oh, guys.
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Nice place you got here.
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Thank you. And nice cat.
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This is Gigi.
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Gigi.
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She's the troublemaker.
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What's the trouble? So we've had Gigi
for just over two years. Okay. She's a
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rescue cat.
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And Gigi, we just...
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I met a woman on the street who had some
kittens and we said we would foster one
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and she was going to pick any one and
she's been probably a bit spoiled by us.
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She's the centre of our household.
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She's a very affectionate cat so we
thought she would take well to a kitten
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she hasn't.
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Some of the attacks have been so vicious
that I was starting to get concerned
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that she was actually trying to kill the
kitten. I don't know whether that is
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even a possibility.
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Yeah.
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Do I think that Gigi could kill Princess
Tuki? Of course I do. It's a no
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-brainer.
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This is a cat with a history of fighting
off other cats in order to survive
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against a kitten who knows nothing. She
hasn't learned anything.
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She's going to lose, and she's going to
lose badly.
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And so you've moved on past the point
where you realize that it really had
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nothing to do with Gigi, that it was
really, you wanted a kitten.
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No, that's not the case.
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She was a cat who was terrorized by
other cats.
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And you said that regardless, I think
she wants a kitten.
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I thought...
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Given time, that's Gigi would like the
company.
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I thought it would be nice. You have to
know that this cat specifically... At
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this point, shall I say I told you so?
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No, I'm not. All I'm saying is it's more
important for you to get past that. The
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reason I'm doing this is because your
expectations have to be realistic.
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Your expectations have to be that no
one's going to get killed.
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These guys aren't going to wind up on
the bed together, grooming one another,
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and being like, you're my buddy.
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Have you ever seen a situation where the
cats don't get on and then get along
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fine? Well, to me, get along fine is,
I'm not going to kill you. Or we can
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a space.
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This has got to stop. We've either got
to do something drastic to solve this,
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Princess Siki needs to go.
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She needs to go. Now?
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Now. Oh. I mean, I want to give it more
time. I don't want to rush to hand her
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back. If I think that she's miserable,
I'm going to agree with you and say
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and we're going to have to think about
finding her a new home. I didn't think
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was that serious.
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I want to take a look around.
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Okay. That one, it couldn't be resolved,
and two, that we had to act straight
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away to remove the kitten.
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Yeah.
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Gigi, who used to sleep on the bed, Gigi
spends most of the time, day and night,
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in the living area.
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She has the room of all this area.
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And Sookie is predominantly in the
bedroom all day and all night.
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This poor kitten never leaves the
bedroom.
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She should be exploring, asserting
herself, and Gigi never gets in the
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which is a really important place.
That's something we have to put an end
458
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As we started to go through the house, I
want to establish the anti -treasure
459
00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:07,770
map. Every step we take, wherever you
say a fight has occurred, we're going to
460
00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:09,930
imaginarily put an X on the ground.
461
00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:14,050
Where in here are the X's where she
would get beat up?
462
00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:15,850
Okay, well, X.
463
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:17,390
We go X.
464
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:20,990
X right here.
465
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:25,750
Were these X spots that we defined as we
went along where all the fights
466
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:30,380
happened? The couch, the floor by the
couch, the bed. Were they surprised? Of
467
00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:31,319
course not.
468
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,140
These, territorially, are the most
important spots for a cat in the house.
469
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,660
Because they smell like the people.
470
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,380
This is the throne of the territory.
471
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:46,960
Queen Gigi has been displaced from the
throne by this little princess. And
472
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,280
that's what's causing the grief.
473
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:54,720
Okay, so Princess Suki spends most of
her time in the bedroom, which I don't
474
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,900
her. No, I suspect she's under the bed.
She'll be under the bed. I get this
475
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:00,560
feeling that she was quite adventurous
to start with, and she's kind of being
476
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,560
beaten into submission.
477
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,700
If you can grab her, meet us out on the
couch. Poor Princess Suki is learning to
478
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:12,680
choose fear over bravery, learning to
choose disappearing into this small ball
479
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,120
as opposed to being expansive and going
out there and conquering like any
480
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,000
teenager should do. She's an eight
-month -old kitten. This is
481
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,700
What I'd like you to do...
482
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,160
Pick her up, because you always carry
her around anyway.
483
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,140
I'd like you to pick her up, bring her
back to the couch, and sit with her.
484
00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:33,940
Jackson said that we were going to put
the cats together, I just thought it
485
00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:36,640
wasn't going to work. There was either
going to be a fight or they'd both run
486
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,620
off straight away. It's more than
important for me to see the behavior.
487
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,680
If anything happens, I'm here.
488
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,300
All right?
489
00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:47,400
Just start petting Sookie.
490
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Just pet.
491
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Yeah, see how that's starting to...
492
00:29:52,670 --> 00:29:55,850
I was very impressed. I don't know what
he had, some kind of energy or
493
00:29:55,850 --> 00:30:00,790
something, but they just kind of seemed
to coexist at that time, and that was
494
00:30:00,790 --> 00:30:02,090
the perfect moment.
495
00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:06,710
So, Nick, what I'd like you to do is
take Gigi, take her off the couch. You
496
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:09,550
put her sort of in the middle of the
floor there, and let's see what happens
497
00:30:09,550 --> 00:30:12,810
from there, okay? And then you can just,
once you've done that, you can just sit
498
00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:13,810
down.
499
00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:16,710
All right.
500
00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:21,790
And I'm going to come in.
501
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,740
Hey, baby.
502
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Oh, here we go.
503
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,940
You know, so I was, you know, bracing.
504
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,660
I was waiting for something bad to
happen.
505
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,420
Take Gigi, take her off the couch, and
let's see what happens from there, okay?
506
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,640
Oh, here we go.
507
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:51,480
You know, so I was, you know, bracing.
508
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,140
I was waiting for something bad to
happen.
509
00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:06,930
Stay cool.
510
00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:09,990
Stay cool. We're here. Breathe. Breathe
for me. Come on.
511
00:31:10,810 --> 00:31:12,010
Do you see what she just did?
512
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:16,590
Sent a message, starts walking away. The
overriding thing in big neon letters
513
00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:20,750
that I saw today was territorial
insecurity taken to new heights.
514
00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:25,170
So Nick and Julie's homework this week
revolves around a very simple concept,
515
00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:27,370
reclaiming the throne for Queen Gigi.
516
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,010
Now, let me give you some homework for
today.
517
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:36,680
The first thing, in terms of
reestablishing the throne, The most
518
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,340
is that Gigi has to be in your bed.
519
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,140
What we're going to start doing is sight
swapping, okay? And it's going to be
520
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:46,560
regimented. It's going to happen daily.
521
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:52,160
So on opposite days, this one sleeps
with you. On the other day, she sleeps
522
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,400
you. It's that simple.
523
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,860
Gigi has to feel like there is a pecking
order in this home, and she's on top.
524
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,200
So part of that is to do what I call
sight swapping. Sight swapping is
525
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,620
cats gather information through scent.
526
00:32:04,990 --> 00:32:08,850
They get to go in, smell the same
things, put their mark on things. It's a
527
00:32:08,850 --> 00:32:13,310
to get to know each other. So at any
time, Gigi's in one room and the
528
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:18,790
in the other room. The second thing is
really getting that energy, what could
529
00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:21,830
play energy, out of them. They get
played with every day.
530
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:23,790
Now we want to do the respecting the
hierarchy.
531
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,090
The thing that I'd like you to start
doing is cracking the door.
532
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,000
And I want to have feeding done on
opposite sides of the door. You can use
533
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,520
stops. Basically, we're going to have
them fed on opposite sides of the door
534
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,560
with door stoppers so that everybody is
safe. A little bit of visual
535
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,200
stimulation, more scent stimulation, and
a slow moving towards each other.
536
00:32:44,260 --> 00:32:47,240
They're at a nice distance, and they're
going to eat. But what you're going to
537
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,100
do is you're going to put her food down
first.
538
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,980
You're going to say, you are the queen.
539
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,460
And give it a couple of beats, let her
start eating. You are the princess.
540
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:56,020
She gets it second.
541
00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:58,800
And finally, I want you guys to journal,
journal, journal.
542
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,720
So that next time I'm here, we're going
to know these guys so well that your
543
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,380
fear and your feeling of lack of power
will be out the window. Okay, thank you.
544
00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,379
Okay, fantastic.
545
00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:12,100
I'm excited about the days to come. I
have renewed hope that we're going to be
546
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:15,960
able to work things out and that maybe I
didn't make the terrible mistake that I
547
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,720
feared I had when I brought her home.
548
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880
I know there's a long way to go. There's
going to be some hard work and there's
549
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,040
probably still going to be a bit of
thirst lying.
550
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,240
Mm -hmm.
551
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:34,320
It's been a few weeks since the last
time I saw Nick and Julie, Gigi and
552
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:36,860
So I went over their video homework.
553
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:42,220
I saw them starting to play, which was
good, and starting to go through the
554
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:44,860
process of the feeding and the site
swapping.
555
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:51,640
That was good, but what I saw that was
missing was an actual adherence to the
556
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,860
program I put forward with play and with
feeding. They were jumping ahead.
557
00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:00,760
They used a screen door, which lets in
all of this information.
558
00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:05,500
Too much sight, too much smell, and of
course the cats got too stimulated and
559
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,500
fights followed.
560
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:08,739
So how's it going?
561
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:15,159
Um, I don't really know what to tell
you. It's kind of up and down. Okay. Day
562
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,639
day. There was something about Julie
this time.
563
00:34:18,010 --> 00:34:22,590
that just wasn't there the last time. I
got to tell you, I feel you.
564
00:34:22,889 --> 00:34:25,710
Like, you're just, like, radiating over
here.
565
00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:27,830
What's going on with you right now?
566
00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:30,270
I think I felt we were going backwards a
little bit.
567
00:34:30,650 --> 00:34:34,210
I think I thought that... Yeah, I was
ready to throw the towel in there. Yeah,
568
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:37,409
mean, I've been away for a few days, so
Nick has been basically taking care of
569
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,489
them both, and has been at his wit's end
at times, and I've called him. He's
570
00:34:40,489 --> 00:34:42,090
just been, I can't cope with this.
571
00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:44,429
When you don't really see a lot of...
572
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,900
then you just think, well, is this
really working?
573
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,780
And is it time to get rid of one of
them?
574
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,080
And it's the way I've felt from the
start, that it just wasn't going to
575
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,160
I don't think there's enough improvement
that both cats are happy.
576
00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:01,580
What do you think specifically is
upsetting you?
577
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:03,020
It's still the attack.
578
00:35:04,460 --> 00:35:08,240
Nick and Julie are both journalists,
which means they're, first of all, used
579
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,240
working on deadlines.
580
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,980
It's their process. Well, guess what?
This isn't their process. Now, what we
581
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,440
need to do is get up and explore.
582
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,260
They have to move at the speed of cat.
There is no deadline when it comes to
583
00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:20,260
cat.
584
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,160
So, because Nick and Julie really didn't
do the homework with play as well as
585
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,180
I'd like to have seen them do, and nor
did they do the feeding exercise the way
586
00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:32,120
I wanted them to do, I had to step in
and do the homework with them. Now, with
587
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,890
cats... Everything is ritual.
588
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:37,770
So what we're going to do with her is
we're going to go straight from the
589
00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:43,810
and after she's caught something, then
we go into the eat, right?
590
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:47,250
Good girl.
591
00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:50,610
I hate speaking in generalities, but
here it goes with cats.
592
00:35:50,910 --> 00:35:56,210
Every cat, hunt, catch, kill, eat. You
play, you move into food, they go into
593
00:35:56,210 --> 00:36:00,850
grooming, then they sleep. It's a
natural life cycle of a cat. Ten minutes
594
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,519
Like that?
595
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,660
That's all I'm asking. You will not see
fights.
596
00:36:05,140 --> 00:36:09,160
Nick and Julie did not accomplish my
feeding homework the way I asked them
597
00:36:09,220 --> 00:36:13,020
so it was important that I step in, take
them through it exactly the way I want
598
00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:14,280
to see it for the next couple of weeks.
599
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:15,900
Here's our door stops.
600
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,260
You just keep her interested in that.
601
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,260
All right, Nick, here I come.
602
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,780
I want you to put this door stop on your
side. Don't put it down because I do
603
00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:26,080
want her to, once again, respect the
hierarchy here.
604
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,680
We're going to put Gigi's food down
first, let the kitten see it, and let
605
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,140
start exploring her food first. So,
Nick, whenever you're ready. And that
606
00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:37,680
she says, that's right, I'm the queen. I
get fed first, you can watch.
607
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,740
We've got Suki right near the door right
now.
608
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,360
We've got Gigi completely eating.
609
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,920
That's what I wanted to see.
610
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:49,980
The most important thing about this is
that both cats know where the other cat
611
00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:54,080
is if they're making the choice for
either toy or food or both.
612
00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:59,370
And if you look at Gigi right now,
there's none of that, you know, I'm
613
00:36:59,370 --> 00:37:03,790
kill you type of thing going on. When
those two cats ate near that door, it
614
00:37:03,790 --> 00:37:05,370
wasn't just a game changer for the cats.
615
00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:10,650
It was also a massive moment for Julie.
She just reinvested. And now we can get
616
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:11,529
some work done.
617
00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:15,230
Finally, the throne work here is very
important.
618
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,480
We still have to continue this.
619
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,200
Success is that by the next time I come
here, these guys can eat around each
620
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,740
other. We can open that door.
621
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:27,240
Really? By the next time? Okay. Unless
you rush and you open the door and we
622
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,158
have an attack.
623
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,820
I think we realize now that things
aren't going to happen quickly.
624
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:32,140
What is that?
625
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,320
What is that?
626
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,500
When we see Jackson next, we'll have to
make a decision one way or the other.
627
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,780
And hopefully that's a good one. But if
it doesn't work, then we'll have to find
628
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:41,479
another home.
629
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,480
Come on.
630
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:51,450
I'm going in for my final visit with
Nick and Julie and Sookie and Gigi.
631
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:57,310
The last time I left them, we had made
some gains, but just to get these cats
632
00:37:57,310 --> 00:38:01,490
eating within six feet of one another
with a cracked door was kind of major
633
00:38:01,490 --> 00:38:05,030
surgery. So I'm not sure what to expect.
If these guys really took their
634
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:07,330
homework to heart, maybe we'll have a
breakthrough. I don't know.
635
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:14,170
I think I might actually have the answer
to my question.
636
00:38:15,319 --> 00:38:17,900
How are things going? How have things
been since the last time I was here?
637
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,920
Pretty good, as you can see.
638
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:23,960
I mean, talk about a turnaround.
639
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,020
There's Nick and Julie and Suki and Gigi
all sitting on the couch together. Look
640
00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:29,678
at this.
641
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,860
Yeah, things have just changed
dramatically in the last eight days or
642
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:35,940
you were last here.
643
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,140
I mean, the playing seems to have made a
big difference. I think Suki has got
644
00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:42,400
more confident with the playing.
645
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:48,560
They play together sometimes with the
feather, which is pretty dramatic.
646
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:50,620
Tell me about how feeding has been
going.
647
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,580
Yeah, feeding's been going okay.
648
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,860
Between the door and... Yeah, we did
that, we did that, and then I have to
649
00:38:56,860 --> 00:39:00,080
confess, on one occasion I had them in
the same room together.
650
00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:04,980
When I had the cats in the room together
feeding, I felt a bit naughty because I
651
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,160
wasn't doing what Jackson told me to do.
They were doing so well, and I just...
652
00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:11,190
I thought it would be okay, and it was.
Nick, were you there when this was
653
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:15,030
happening? No. He wouldn't have let me
do it. I wouldn't have allowed it.
654
00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:17,150
I would have done the same thing.
655
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:23,610
But if that's working for you, then I'd
like to see it again, actually. Okay.
656
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:26,470
I wanted her to recreate it because she
said it went fine.
657
00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:29,370
I wanted to make sure she hadn't just
gotten lucky one time.
658
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:34,190
I'm glad that you're respecting the
hierarchy here.
659
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:35,670
Okay. There she goes.
660
00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:41,260
Right now, you can put that bowl down
right where she is. There you go.
661
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,440
Leave her alone. Back up a little bit.
662
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,760
That's it.
663
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:51,000
Yeah. Okay, good.
664
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,140
Okay, good. Guess what? She didn't get
lucky.
665
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,220
It actually worked. Let's take it one
step further. What I'd like you to do,
666
00:39:56,260 --> 00:40:00,340
Nick, first, pretty easy for you, just
to get up and move away.
667
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,060
Now. It's my job to push the challenge
line. We have two cats sitting together
668
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:10,380
inches from one another with the humans
next to them with total peace radiating
669
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:14,200
from this couch. Well, if that's the
case, let's push it a little bit. I want
670
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,820
see this as our crowning achievement.
671
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,640
Now, we're just going to sit here for a
minute.
672
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:21,880
We're just going to see what happens.
673
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,658
This is amazing.
674
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:35,660
Good girl.
675
00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:40,500
It's interesting now to look back at the
place where we were when we started and
676
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,060
then look at where we are today.
677
00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:43,680
Yeah, it's been a pretty dramatic
change.
678
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,880
I don't think we really expected to
change that much. And to have them both
679
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,860
of sitting nearby on the sofa without
any problems is totally unexpected.
680
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,700
All the things that Gigi was working at
so hard.
681
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,900
In that rescue situation and in here,
overowning. She doesn't feel like she
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needs to do it anymore. She doesn't feel
so threatened.
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Huge. Yeah.
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Huge. I can't imagine why we would
rehome this kitten at this point. I
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there's no threat. It was great to see
Jackson's reaction to how we'd
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progressed. And I think it would be
pretty devastating now to have to get
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her, especially as we've made such
progress.
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We brought you something from England.
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Oh, really?
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You got an English present?
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Remind you of us. Oh, my God. When I
first started with Nick and
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Julie, with Gigi and with Suki, thank
you so much.
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00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,740
I had one cat who literally just wanted
to kill another.
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We fast forward just a few weeks.
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What we have, these two cats sitting on
the couch next to one another with no
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hint of violence to come.
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00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,020
And that makes this job pretty
worthwhile. I just couldn't be happier.
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couldn't get any closer without kissing.
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00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,060
Have a hellish cat?
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Get my tips on how to better understand
your cat's behavior.
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cat from hell.
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