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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,590 --> 00:00:04,670 Sina will have breakout attacks. 2 00:00:09,470 --> 00:00:13,810 My son Chris doesn't understand what's going on. He's afraid to be in his own 3 00:00:13,810 --> 00:00:16,950 room because there's a cat growling under his bed. 4 00:00:20,690 --> 00:00:26,210 Gigi was very affectionate, but when we introduced the kittens, he's basically 5 00:00:26,210 --> 00:00:27,710 had a complete personal alter change. 6 00:00:29,299 --> 00:00:34,560 Gigi's attacks are normally focused on Princess Fuki, but there's collateral 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,560 damage as well. 8 00:00:36,380 --> 00:00:39,160 I'm Jackson 9 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:45,940 Galaxy. I'm a musician 10 00:00:45,940 --> 00:00:48,680 by night and a cat behaviorist by day. 11 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,940 I've met cats with all kinds of problems. 12 00:00:55,220 --> 00:00:58,520 But I've never met one I couldn't help. 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,380 Oh, hello. In my career, I've worked with thousands of cats one -on -one, 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,420 analyzing their behaviors and retraining them and their guardians. 15 00:01:08,020 --> 00:01:12,360 When relationships are at an end, I don't have many more options than to 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,180 leave. And cat guardians have reached their emotional limit. Just get rid of 17 00:01:16,180 --> 00:01:17,920 her. I'm their last hope. 18 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:23,640 Are you all right? 19 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,060 Sorry, I don't know. Cats have nine lives, but humans? 20 00:01:27,580 --> 00:01:28,580 Only have one. 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Whoa! 22 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:37,240 Ow! Ow! 23 00:01:44,940 --> 00:01:49,200 I'm heading over to Jen's house and her five -year -old son, Chris, and their 24 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,200 cat, Zena. 25 00:01:52,060 --> 00:01:56,540 Xena's been acting out unpredictably, seemingly unprovoked, and with a lot of 26 00:01:56,540 --> 00:01:57,540 violence. 27 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,920 I'm looking at footage right now. It's basically cat versus child, and you know 28 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,740 that's never going to end well. I'm going to get over there right now and 29 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:06,740 I can help out. 30 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,360 I'm Jen. I live here with my parents. 31 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,020 and my son Chris, who's five years old, and Xena, my one -year -old cat. 32 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:29,180 I got Xena when she was just three weeks old. Xena was very playful, very 33 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:31,940 energetic, and my son Chris fell in love with him. 34 00:02:34,620 --> 00:02:40,520 For the last few months, Xena goes through sporadic 35 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,680 freakouts. Be nice. 36 00:02:43,540 --> 00:02:47,980 And then she'll start tearing through the house. 37 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:49,720 screaming and hissing. 38 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:55,200 My dad teaches vocal lessons out of his office in the house. 39 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,418 You need to go now. 40 00:02:56,420 --> 00:02:59,520 Zeno will have one of her freak -out attacks. 41 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,800 She'll latch herself onto his chair or under his bed. 42 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Really? 43 00:03:08,820 --> 00:03:13,320 My dad is so frustrated with the cat that he's ready to see her go. 44 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,900 You have to be able to work in here. 45 00:03:17,180 --> 00:03:22,360 If this behavior isn't stopped in some way, the cat can no longer be in the 46 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,360 house. 47 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,200 And the end of that story is obvious, which Jeff's response then is, fine, 48 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,140 you explain to my son why that cat has to die. 49 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:36,540 Are you scared having her under your bed, baby? Yeah. 50 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Chris doesn't understand what's going on. There's been times that he's tried 51 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,920 play with Xena, and she just lashes out. She's scratched him already. 52 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,400 He's afraid to be in his own room because there's a cat growling under his 53 00:03:54,820 --> 00:03:57,280 Are you scared of her? 54 00:03:59,260 --> 00:04:01,780 Okay, what do you want to have happen to Zena? 55 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,280 I want her to feel better. 56 00:04:04,860 --> 00:04:05,860 Yeah? 57 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,300 Jackson, please help us. I know that something is going on with Zena, and 58 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:13,820 the only one that I know that might be able to help. 59 00:04:20,779 --> 00:04:24,940 How are you? Good. I'm Jen. Jen, I'm Jackson. Come on in. As soon as Jackson 60 00:04:24,940 --> 00:04:27,980 walked in the door, I was like, oh, my gosh, it's him. He's here. 61 00:04:28,580 --> 00:04:29,580 How's the day going? 62 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,600 So far, so good. 63 00:04:30,780 --> 00:04:32,880 Zena's been locked in the bathroom most of the day. 64 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:36,500 Oh. 65 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:38,840 Yeah. So what's going on with Zena? 66 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,260 She kind of goes into these episodes where her ears go back and she starts 67 00:04:43,260 --> 00:04:45,560 growling and hissing and scratches at me. 68 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:46,920 Ow! Ow! 69 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:49,780 The only way that I can ever get her out of those episodes. 70 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,660 is if I literally go in the back, take a towel, burrito her in the towel, and 71 00:04:54,660 --> 00:04:56,120 hold her like a stinking baby. 72 00:04:58,060 --> 00:05:00,620 How long has it been going on since you just started doing this? 73 00:05:01,380 --> 00:05:02,860 It's been about four months. 74 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,160 She had gotten out. You said that she got out? So she didn't normally go out? 75 00:05:07,380 --> 00:05:10,840 No, no. Right after that was when she had her first incident. She was in the 76 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:15,720 backyard, and my son came running into the house screaming, going, Mom, Xena's 77 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,520 freaking out. And she was running in circles around the house. 78 00:05:20,050 --> 00:05:26,490 screaming. And so I took her straight to the vet and they ran a bunch of tests. 79 00:05:26,570 --> 00:05:27,650 They can't figure out anything. 80 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:29,410 She's still freaking out like that? Yeah. 81 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:36,590 Yeah. Oh, Jen's giving me bits and pieces of very specific information, but 82 00:05:36,590 --> 00:05:41,130 of it is lining up for me at all. And I feel like this is a road I've never been 83 00:05:41,130 --> 00:05:43,470 down before. I'm glad that Chris was out there. 84 00:05:43,870 --> 00:05:47,030 Because Chris is going to be our main link to that information. 85 00:05:47,290 --> 00:05:49,590 Right. Mind if I go say hi? Go for it. All right, I'll be back. 86 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:54,210 I figured the only way I could get information that did make sense was to 87 00:05:54,210 --> 00:05:57,570 to the only witness to the crime, and that was her five -year -old son, Chris. 88 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:58,890 Is Zena your buddy? 89 00:05:59,630 --> 00:06:03,050 Yes, but sometimes she hisses and squashes. 90 00:06:03,410 --> 00:06:04,410 Zena did that? 91 00:06:04,450 --> 00:06:08,030 Yeah. Okay, so you're out there with her and your dog, and you were playing. 92 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:11,430 And then she flipped out and... 93 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,600 It was like running around hissing all the time. Did that scare you? 94 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,860 Yes. Yeah, that scared me too. 95 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:19,100 Well, you know what? 96 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,700 Me and you, we're going to go out there, and we're going to try to figure out 97 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:24,160 what happened to her. Come on, let's go, man. 98 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:28,120 So it's raining, and it's raining hard. 99 00:06:28,940 --> 00:06:33,540 Chris and I grabbed our umbrellas to recreate exactly what happened so we can 100 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:34,600 figure out where we're going. 101 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:37,660 Where was Zena when she started hissing? Let's do it together. Go. 102 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:42,720 All right. So we got these circles. Okay, we're going in circles like that. 103 00:06:42,740 --> 00:06:43,579 Okay, cool. 104 00:06:43,580 --> 00:06:46,700 Pretend she's right here, okay? And she's running around in circles. 105 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:49,020 Yep. Now, what did her ears look like? 106 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,380 They were like... Here, I'll hold this for you. They were like, they were 107 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:56,460 backwards. Backwards, good. Now, tell me about her eyes. What were her eyes 108 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:57,660 doing? They were like this. 109 00:06:58,780 --> 00:07:01,000 Yeah. Tell me about the noise she was making. What noise? 110 00:07:03,530 --> 00:07:07,790 Like that, right? So Chris and I are out there doing our detective bit. We are 111 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:11,830 running around in circles in the pouring rain, and he finally drops it on me. 112 00:07:11,910 --> 00:07:13,010 Where were you with Gina? 113 00:07:13,490 --> 00:07:16,610 Gina was, like, right over here. 114 00:07:17,410 --> 00:07:20,370 And when I petted her, then I petted Zina. 115 00:07:21,310 --> 00:07:26,490 Ah, wait a minute. Now, you were petting Gina. 116 00:07:26,850 --> 00:07:29,410 Then you said, I want to pet Zina, right? 117 00:07:29,870 --> 00:07:31,910 Yes. Okay, so you came right over here. 118 00:07:32,830 --> 00:07:34,790 I pet Zena and then you started it. 119 00:07:36,610 --> 00:07:37,630 That's when it started. 120 00:07:38,170 --> 00:07:42,530 That one piece of information, he turned around to play with his cat. Now 121 00:07:42,530 --> 00:07:45,630 remember, this is the first time that Zena had ever been in the backyard. 122 00:07:45,930 --> 00:07:50,230 She's exploring in a very tentative way. He goes to pet her. She probably didn't 123 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:53,350 see him coming. Maybe there was a loud bang from a school bus or a delivery 124 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:57,450 truck. Bang! She goes crazy. And from that moment on, her life changed. 125 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:58,489 All right. 126 00:07:58,490 --> 00:08:01,430 Wow. That was incredibly good. 127 00:08:01,950 --> 00:08:03,550 Scooby -Doo work. Another high five, please. 128 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:07,810 That was a high five. Let's go find your mommy, okay? The next place I wanted to 129 00:08:07,810 --> 00:08:11,970 see was where the family drama's been playing out the most, which is her dad's 130 00:08:11,970 --> 00:08:12,889 music studio. 131 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:14,590 He has vocal lessons in here. 132 00:08:16,210 --> 00:08:17,770 All right, now here she comes. 133 00:08:18,270 --> 00:08:20,030 She's going into her little area here. 134 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:23,490 If you could just go under and just try to get a pet for me. Sure. 135 00:08:24,030 --> 00:08:28,190 Show me how you approach her when she's in this spot and your dad wants her out. 136 00:08:28,370 --> 00:08:29,630 Okay. Let's see what happens. 137 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,099 Yeah, there it is. 138 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:37,440 Yeah. Hey, baby doll. 139 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,120 One more time. 140 00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:43,380 It's okay. 141 00:08:43,980 --> 00:08:45,240 You're okay, Levi. 142 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:47,380 You're okay. 143 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Chris is scared now. 144 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 I got to see the burrito technique, okay? Okay. 145 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,400 So the burrito technique is something you use to comfort her. Yep. 146 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:09,300 Burritoing is taking an animal and swaddling them tightly to calm them 147 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:12,340 Is this what you do? 148 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:16,720 Yep. I try to sneak up behind her because obviously when she sees it, she 149 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:22,880 Seeing Jen go through this with Zena is really hard to watch, but I know that 150 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,200 this is information that is absolutely invaluable because this cat's going to 151 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,040 tell us, I can go here, and once I go past here, the world turns red. 152 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,580 Oh, she got you. Oh, yeah. 153 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Once a week, this is what you wind up doing. Yeah. 154 00:09:46,260 --> 00:09:48,680 Where do we have her now? She ran to the front. I just saw her. 155 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,740 Now this, now what she's doing now. 156 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,500 Yeah. This is what you call the fit. 157 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:55,519 Uh -huh. 158 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,220 Xena is now fully running all over the room. She goes into this place where it 159 00:10:00,220 --> 00:10:03,900 was like she was seeing ghosts. She was hearing voices. And then she scooted up 160 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:04,900 her little staircase. 161 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,780 And that's when it hit me. And I figured out what it was. 162 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,540 Come on now. 163 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:23,020 Dina is fully out there. I asked Jen to go and try to burrito her. And that's 164 00:10:23,020 --> 00:10:24,580 where things went horribly wrong. 165 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,040 And that's when it hit me. 166 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,720 This was post -traumatic stress disorder. Oh, good girl. 167 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:34,840 Okay, so now she peed on you. 168 00:10:35,060 --> 00:10:35,719 Mm -hmm. 169 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:42,540 This level of hyper -reactivity, of disassociation, of reliving that, what I 170 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:45,400 call this feedback loop of trauma, it was all right there. 171 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:49,960 All right, let her go, let her go, let her go. It was time now to go sort of 172 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,380 decompress. Both of us were pretty shook up at this point. 173 00:10:53,260 --> 00:10:56,360 I'm really sorry that I had to take her there, but the information we just got 174 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,420 was pretty priceless. 175 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:02,860 Okay. To me, it's clear cut that this cat is suffering from PTSD. 176 00:11:07,470 --> 00:11:10,210 She's clearly in moments of suffering. 177 00:11:11,290 --> 00:11:15,230 Your son was just killer. We were out there, and he told me he turned to play 178 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:16,810 with Xena. 179 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:18,270 That's when she flipped out. 180 00:11:18,510 --> 00:11:22,350 So just simply trying to pet her could have caused all this? It's not just 181 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:26,310 trying to pet her. At the same time, a delivery truck could have driven by and 182 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:27,310 gone, bang! 183 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:31,570 This motion now becomes, for her, a predictor of bad things to come. 184 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:35,350 The wild card X factor here is I don't think she can see. 185 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:40,860 There was something really wrong with her eyes. 186 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:45,240 Cats have what's called a nicotating membrane or a third eyelid. That 187 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,600 comes across their eyeballs to basically protect them against things like dust. 188 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,920 But if they're thick, it also comes halfway across to let you know that 189 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:54,859 something's not right. 190 00:11:54,860 --> 00:11:59,100 I'd like you to see a specialist and figure that out. Good? Great. 191 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,380 All right. Let me give you some homework now. The first thing that we're going 192 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:04,560 to start doing is introduce her again to the backyard. 193 00:12:05,180 --> 00:12:07,500 I want her to do prolonged exposure therapy. 194 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,920 That means expose her to the things that scare her, the sounds of the backyard 195 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,120 and the smells of the backyard. Find that challenge line and start expanding 196 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,160 slowly until she can deal with it again. We want to get a big piece of sod for 197 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,320 her to smell. Close to the door, actually. And then every day with that 198 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,700 we expose her to the smell as well. 199 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:31,360 Okay. I'm psyched. Great. Me too. Good. Good. I'm going to get out of here. Hey, 200 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,510 Chris. You want to say goodbye? 201 00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:33,749 Goodbye, Dustin. 202 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:34,750 Goodbye, man. Give me a high five. 203 00:12:36,610 --> 00:12:37,610 That's right, man. 204 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:38,670 I'll see you soon, okay? 205 00:12:39,070 --> 00:12:40,470 Bye. All right, bye. 206 00:12:46,850 --> 00:12:50,470 I'm going in right now to see Jen and Chris and Zena the cat. Now, since the 207 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:53,930 last time I was here, Zena was sent to the ophthalmologist. Just like I 208 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:56,530 suspected, the results proved to be a game changer. 209 00:12:56,810 --> 00:13:01,270 I honestly don't know what to expect when I go in here this time. Hey, come 210 00:13:01,270 --> 00:13:07,670 in. Whether things are settling in or just getting worse. So, a little crazy? 211 00:13:07,970 --> 00:13:08,909 Way crazy. 212 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:13,350 So you went to the specialist that I recommended to you. Let's take a look at 213 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:14,350 the video homework. 214 00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:16,970 Hey, sweetie pie. 215 00:13:17,490 --> 00:13:20,390 We cannot see through the recording. They're cloudy. 216 00:13:20,690 --> 00:13:23,030 There's lesions on the retina as well. 217 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:26,730 The ophthalmologist confirmed that it's cataracts. 218 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,220 The last time I was here, I found out I had my first PTSD case. 219 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:40,700 Now, I've got a cat who's blind and has PTSD on top of that. The challenge is 220 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:44,380 enormous. She might have how much of sight? 10 % maybe? 221 00:13:53,140 --> 00:13:55,800 I'm down on the ground like this. I'm not above her. 222 00:13:56,750 --> 00:13:59,350 So with the limited sight, this is still going to be okay. 223 00:14:02,730 --> 00:14:04,990 So now we have to do eye drop. 224 00:14:06,210 --> 00:14:08,110 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 225 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:11,330 All right. 226 00:14:11,570 --> 00:14:12,570 Incredibly positive. 227 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:16,800 Yay. I don't see that level of fear and shrinking back. 228 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,080 That's fantastic. 229 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:21,960 I saw a lot of Chris footage and everything. I didn't see a lot of you in 230 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Yeah, a lot of it is it's the new job. Pretty much the only time that I get to 231 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,540 spend with Xena is when I'm here to give her her eye drops. 232 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:34,120 The only time she's around her cat is when she's giving her medication. 233 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Bad association. 234 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:37,300 We got to change that. 235 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:40,780 It's going to have to be something that's just not horrible. 236 00:14:41,310 --> 00:14:47,150 Every time it happens. My wheelhouse with giving cats eye drops is waiting 237 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:49,230 they're just sitting there sleeping and you announce yourself. 238 00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:51,930 Remember, with Xena, you always announce yourself verbally. 239 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:54,670 Right. You come down to her level. Hey, baby, how you doing? 240 00:14:55,190 --> 00:14:56,530 And then, boink. 241 00:14:56,890 --> 00:15:01,790 Okay? Now, the next thing I want to do is take a look around. Okay. 242 00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:04,810 Office being right there. All right. Great place to start. Let's go. Sure. 243 00:15:05,510 --> 00:15:07,070 Xena is basically blind. 244 00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:11,610 but she does suffer from post -traumatic stress because of that blindness. 245 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:15,970 Taking a look around this environment was crucial. 246 00:15:16,250 --> 00:15:17,710 The whole world has to change. 247 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:23,120 I remember how contentious it was with your dad and Xena. How's that going? 248 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,700 It's a lot better now that my dad understands that she's in pain. 249 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,340 You know, he's had eye problems all of his life, and, I mean, he still has eye 250 00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:35,400 drops that he has to take. Your dad has to take eye drops every day. So he gets 251 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,400 it. That's wonderful. 252 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Let's keep moving. All right. 253 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,780 Since this family has gotten the news that they've got basically a blind cat, 254 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:45,680 their attitude has completely changed. I've got the graph that you said to do. 255 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,440 And she can sit right in front of the door, smell, sight, sound. Great. The 256 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,060 time I was here, I had Jen institute what's called prolonged exposure therapy 257 00:15:55,060 --> 00:15:56,060 for the PTSD. 258 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:58,820 I wanted her to take the sounds of the backyard. 259 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:02,800 At the same time, I wanted her to have the smell of the grass, the feel of the 260 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,420 grass to re -expose Xena to the backyard. Because we're dealing with 261 00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:08,279 blind cat. 262 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,080 It's way too dangerous. It's irresponsible to send her outside. 263 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,320 brilliant. All right. Jen, you want to call for Chris? 264 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,740 I really wanted to go check in with Chris. Come over here, man. When you're 265 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:21,960 dealing with a cat that's suddenly gone blind, you have to now cater even more 266 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,960 to the other senses. 267 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,180 We've got to start playing with toys that maybe she can hear them coming, but 268 00:16:27,180 --> 00:16:29,800 you've got to teach everybody in this house. You're the cat teacher in this 269 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,960 house. So you hold on for one second, because I've got something for you, 270 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,059 All right. 271 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:38,060 I want to see Chris taking the lead. He's the cat daddy now. I want to give 272 00:16:38,060 --> 00:16:41,820 something so he remembers who he is, that he is the cat teacher in this 273 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:43,540 You ready? 274 00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:50,780 And now it's time for a kitty bit. 275 00:16:51,060 --> 00:16:56,220 Cats can hear up to 1 .6 octaves above the range of humans and one octave 276 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:57,220 than dogs. 277 00:16:57,420 --> 00:16:58,420 True or false? 278 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,240 The answer after the break. 279 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,680 True or false? Cats can hear up to 1 .6 octaves above the range of humans and 280 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,359 one octave higher than dogs. 281 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,560 The answer is true. 282 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:15,599 I got something for you, okay? All right. 283 00:17:16,060 --> 00:17:19,460 I want to see Chris taking the lead. He is the cat teacher in this house. 284 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,300 I got a little something for you, buddy. 285 00:17:25,579 --> 00:17:30,040 I got Chris's own cat daddy guitar case, which it was just so much fun to bring 286 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,060 it in for him. You are now the cat daddy in this house. 287 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,860 Okay, so let me show you what we got going on in here. I got toys for her 288 00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:40,860 make sound. 289 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:43,460 There's one. Now watch this. 290 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,020 Oh, you see? See how she hears it? What are you doing, baby? 291 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,780 Now she's a nut. 292 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,080 You got crinkle balls in here? 293 00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:58,700 We know she loves crinkle balls. Look at this thing. 294 00:17:58,940 --> 00:18:03,940 Chris immediately started interacting with Xena. He did remind me of the way I 295 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:06,340 was when I discovered the cats and I got along. 296 00:18:06,620 --> 00:18:09,180 You are the cat teacher in the house. 297 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:14,140 It was really one of those cool moments, you know, because he is the next 298 00:18:14,140 --> 00:18:15,320 generation of... 299 00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:16,309 Cat guardian. 300 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:17,930 So you promise me you're going to be a teacher? 301 00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:19,129 I promise. 302 00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:20,130 Rock on, Chris. 303 00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:26,810 We're coming around the home turn here, so I don't want to see one more attack 304 00:18:26,810 --> 00:18:29,710 or freak out in those two weeks because it's important for Chris to have that 305 00:18:29,710 --> 00:18:34,210 stability of knowledge that this is normal, not what we saw before. This is 306 00:18:34,210 --> 00:18:38,750 normal. Great seeing you again, and we'll see you in a few weeks. All right. 307 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Sure, Chris feels better about Zena. Her mom and her dad feel better about Zena. 308 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,820 But the action plan rests with Jen. This is not a done deal. Bye. 309 00:18:54,940 --> 00:18:58,780 I'm going in for my last visit with Jen and her son Chris and her cat Zena. 310 00:18:59,860 --> 00:19:04,580 Now, this cat is pretty well blind, which changed our action plan 311 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:08,160 Remember, we were just dealing with... Post -traumatic stress disorder, which 312 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,440 was a tall order to begin with. 313 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Hey, come on in. 314 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,260 Anything's possible. I don't know what to expect walking in. Very nice. 315 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:16,420 How is it? How's things going? 316 00:19:17,020 --> 00:19:19,040 Fizzy, but it's good. Yeah, well, of course. 317 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,680 Sitting down with Jen was pretty immediate right away that she was just 318 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,740 eat. You had your follow -up with the vet? 319 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:28,120 Yeah, she said that she is doing better. Unfortunately, we can't get the 320 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:30,180 lubricant gel into her eyes yet. 321 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:32,860 But she still saw improvement. 322 00:19:33,790 --> 00:19:36,370 In her vision? In her vision. Get out of here. 323 00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:38,030 Yay. Amazing. 324 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:39,310 Yay. 325 00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:43,630 Man, let me tell you something. This eyedrop situation is a challenge for the 326 00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:47,010 best cat wrangler. So far, she's in a happy, sleepy mode. 327 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:50,430 And Jen's been having a whale of a time with it. Good girl. 328 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:54,170 But still getting the job done. Well, we got one eye. 329 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,570 And that deserves a lot of praise. 330 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:57,669 Hey, Dad. 331 00:19:57,670 --> 00:20:03,540 Hey. We ran into Jen's dad, Mike, and I had an opportunity to ask him how things 332 00:20:03,540 --> 00:20:09,260 were going in his point of view. He lives on eye drops now, and I can 333 00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:14,400 with that. I had a ton of eye problems and had to do eye drops. I get that. 334 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,440 What about the way she is or isn't sharing space with you in your office? 335 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,620 Things have chilled quite a bit. 336 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:28,460 Yeah, if he's there, he kind of kicks it under the desk. 337 00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:31,040 Chilling, breathing, we're fine. 338 00:20:32,060 --> 00:20:35,480 I'm really thankful that Jackson got involved. 339 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:41,000 There's not really a price you can put on kids having a cool pet. 340 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,840 Jackson has given his family a big gift. 341 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,300 I'm just a little sleepy. 342 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,280 The first time I had come to this home, I believed squarely. 343 00:20:52,540 --> 00:20:55,760 that I didn't think that Xena was a safe cat to be around a five -year -old 344 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,240 child. You're going fishing for Xena. There you go, man. 345 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:03,940 But from what I've seen, Xena is a more accepting cat. Nice going, dude. 346 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,300 Now that we've met with Jackson, she's not hiding under bed. She doesn't 347 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:13,940 automatically get into defense mode, and she doesn't cause contention in my dad. 348 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,780 She plays when she's supposed to play. 349 00:21:16,180 --> 00:21:19,060 I don't know that I could ask for anything more. 350 00:21:24,379 --> 00:21:29,320 You've got to understand, from where I come from, from the shelter world, 351 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,600 gave up their cats for far less reason. 352 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,160 Not only are you saving this cat's life, and you know you've done that, but 353 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,180 you're teaching that kid. 354 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:40,220 He's going to be the reason why we don't kill cats. 355 00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:41,420 So thank you. 356 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,620 Thank you very much. 357 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:50,320 I'm so grateful that I get to see Chris and be best friends. 358 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Thank you. 359 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,700 Oh, you rock, man. 360 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,040 You're amazing. 361 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:04,840 I thought it would be nice to get another rescue. 362 00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:07,160 And Nick was reluctant. 363 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,040 I was against the idea because I thought Gigi would react badly. 364 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:15,260 At this point, shall I say I told you so? 365 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,940 I'm going over to see Nick and Julie and their cat Gigi. Hello Gigi. 366 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,320 Hello Suki. 367 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,200 Who is terrorizing their new kitten. 368 00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:44,740 They're afraid that Gigi being the size she is, she's just going to kill this 369 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:45,740 poor little kitten. 370 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:49,680 So I'm going over there right now to make sure that that doesn't happen. 371 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,720 I'm Julie. 372 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,880 I'm Nick. 373 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:57,140 And we've been together for four and a half years. 374 00:22:59,050 --> 00:23:03,750 We're both journalists in the UK and we were on an assignment in Paris when we 375 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:07,510 actually started to get to know each other. And we got together a few weeks 376 00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:09,650 later. Say hello, Gigi. 377 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:12,630 I don't think you should talk over the video. 378 00:23:14,010 --> 00:23:16,290 Gigi's an American short hair. She's a rescue. 379 00:23:16,570 --> 00:23:22,110 We got her just over two years ago and I thought it would be nice to get another 380 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:24,130 rescue. And Nick was reluctant. 381 00:23:24,510 --> 00:23:27,950 I was against the idea because I thought Gigi would react badly. 382 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,580 And we were told that she'd been bullied by the other cat at the centre where 383 00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:37,480 she was. But I was persuaded to get this very cute kitten. 384 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,340 And I don't think it was necessarily a good idea. 385 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:44,660 In hindsight, yes. 386 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:52,160 So before we got the kitten, Gigi was very affectionate. But when we 387 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,920 the kitten, she basically had a complete personality change. 388 00:23:56,550 --> 00:24:02,790 Gigi's attacks are normally focused on Princess Suki, but there's collateral 389 00:24:02,790 --> 00:24:03,810 damage as well. 390 00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:11,830 You can probably see, actually, my lip and the side of my mouth is all cut 391 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:12,830 up and bruised. 392 00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:17,270 And Gigi did that in the middle of the night last night. 393 00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:23,350 In my opinion, Princess Suki, if this doesn't work out, has to go. 394 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:35,830 Hi, Jackson. 395 00:24:35,850 --> 00:24:37,670 How are you? Very well. How are you doing? 396 00:24:37,930 --> 00:24:39,510 I am. How are you, Nick? 397 00:24:40,550 --> 00:24:41,550 Okay. 398 00:24:42,370 --> 00:24:45,570 I'm glad I could be here for you. You must be Julie. Hi, nice to meet you. 399 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:46,570 to meet you. 400 00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:47,910 Oh, guys. 401 00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:50,410 Nice place you got here. 402 00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:52,170 Thank you. And nice cat. 403 00:24:52,510 --> 00:24:53,510 This is Gigi. 404 00:24:54,050 --> 00:24:55,050 Gigi. 405 00:24:55,150 --> 00:24:56,270 She's the troublemaker. 406 00:24:56,570 --> 00:25:01,230 What's the trouble? So we've had Gigi for just over two years. Okay. She's a 407 00:25:01,230 --> 00:25:02,230 rescue cat. 408 00:25:02,490 --> 00:25:04,130 And Gigi, we just... 409 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,340 I met a woman on the street who had some kittens and we said we would foster one 410 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:11,300 and she was going to pick any one and she's been probably a bit spoiled by us. 411 00:25:11,420 --> 00:25:12,820 She's the centre of our household. 412 00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:18,260 She's a very affectionate cat so we thought she would take well to a kitten 413 00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:19,260 she hasn't. 414 00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:27,020 Some of the attacks have been so vicious that I was starting to get concerned 415 00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:30,960 that she was actually trying to kill the kitten. I don't know whether that is 416 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,960 even a possibility. 417 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,120 Yeah. 418 00:25:33,710 --> 00:25:37,870 Do I think that Gigi could kill Princess Tuki? Of course I do. It's a no 419 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:38,870 -brainer. 420 00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:43,450 This is a cat with a history of fighting off other cats in order to survive 421 00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:46,810 against a kitten who knows nothing. She hasn't learned anything. 422 00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:49,230 She's going to lose, and she's going to lose badly. 423 00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:53,730 And so you've moved on past the point where you realize that it really had 424 00:25:53,730 --> 00:25:56,790 nothing to do with Gigi, that it was really, you wanted a kitten. 425 00:26:01,550 --> 00:26:02,550 No, that's not the case. 426 00:26:02,830 --> 00:26:06,490 She was a cat who was terrorized by other cats. 427 00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:10,070 And you said that regardless, I think she wants a kitten. 428 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:11,310 I thought... 429 00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:14,510 Given time, that's Gigi would like the company. 430 00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:20,150 I thought it would be nice. You have to know that this cat specifically... At 431 00:26:20,150 --> 00:26:21,510 this point, shall I say I told you so? 432 00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:27,150 No, I'm not. All I'm saying is it's more important for you to get past that. The 433 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:30,330 reason I'm doing this is because your expectations have to be realistic. 434 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:33,750 Your expectations have to be that no one's going to get killed. 435 00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:37,770 These guys aren't going to wind up on the bed together, grooming one another, 436 00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:39,290 and being like, you're my buddy. 437 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:43,430 Have you ever seen a situation where the cats don't get on and then get along 438 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:50,210 fine? Well, to me, get along fine is, I'm not going to kill you. Or we can 439 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:51,029 a space. 440 00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:55,870 This has got to stop. We've either got to do something drastic to solve this, 441 00:26:55,870 --> 00:26:57,770 Princess Siki needs to go. 442 00:27:01,030 --> 00:27:02,330 She needs to go. Now? 443 00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:08,480 Now. Oh. I mean, I want to give it more time. I don't want to rush to hand her 444 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,460 back. If I think that she's miserable, I'm going to agree with you and say 445 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,320 and we're going to have to think about finding her a new home. I didn't think 446 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,840 was that serious. 447 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:22,460 I want to take a look around. 448 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Okay. That one, it couldn't be resolved, and two, that we had to act straight 449 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,360 away to remove the kitten. 450 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:30,740 Yeah. 451 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,020 Gigi, who used to sleep on the bed, Gigi spends most of the time, day and night, 452 00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:39,320 in the living area. 453 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,360 She has the room of all this area. 454 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:47,440 And Sookie is predominantly in the bedroom all day and all night. 455 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:49,140 This poor kitten never leaves the bedroom. 456 00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:53,900 She should be exploring, asserting herself, and Gigi never gets in the 457 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,220 which is a really important place. That's something we have to put an end 458 00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:03,150 As we started to go through the house, I want to establish the anti -treasure 459 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:07,770 map. Every step we take, wherever you say a fight has occurred, we're going to 460 00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:09,930 imaginarily put an X on the ground. 461 00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:14,050 Where in here are the X's where she would get beat up? 462 00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:15,850 Okay, well, X. 463 00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:17,390 We go X. 464 00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:20,990 X right here. 465 00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:25,750 Were these X spots that we defined as we went along where all the fights 466 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:30,380 happened? The couch, the floor by the couch, the bed. Were they surprised? Of 467 00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:31,319 course not. 468 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,140 These, territorially, are the most important spots for a cat in the house. 469 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,660 Because they smell like the people. 470 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,380 This is the throne of the territory. 471 00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:46,960 Queen Gigi has been displaced from the throne by this little princess. And 472 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,280 that's what's causing the grief. 473 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:54,720 Okay, so Princess Suki spends most of her time in the bedroom, which I don't 474 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,900 her. No, I suspect she's under the bed. She'll be under the bed. I get this 475 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:00,560 feeling that she was quite adventurous to start with, and she's kind of being 476 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,560 beaten into submission. 477 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,700 If you can grab her, meet us out on the couch. Poor Princess Suki is learning to 478 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:12,680 choose fear over bravery, learning to choose disappearing into this small ball 479 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,120 as opposed to being expansive and going out there and conquering like any 480 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,000 teenager should do. She's an eight -month -old kitten. This is 481 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,700 What I'd like you to do... 482 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Pick her up, because you always carry her around anyway. 483 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,140 I'd like you to pick her up, bring her back to the couch, and sit with her. 484 00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:33,940 Jackson said that we were going to put the cats together, I just thought it 485 00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:36,640 wasn't going to work. There was either going to be a fight or they'd both run 486 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,620 off straight away. It's more than important for me to see the behavior. 487 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,680 If anything happens, I'm here. 488 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,300 All right? 489 00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:47,400 Just start petting Sookie. 490 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Just pet. 491 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,000 Yeah, see how that's starting to... 492 00:29:52,670 --> 00:29:55,850 I was very impressed. I don't know what he had, some kind of energy or 493 00:29:55,850 --> 00:30:00,790 something, but they just kind of seemed to coexist at that time, and that was 494 00:30:00,790 --> 00:30:02,090 the perfect moment. 495 00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:06,710 So, Nick, what I'd like you to do is take Gigi, take her off the couch. You 496 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:09,550 put her sort of in the middle of the floor there, and let's see what happens 497 00:30:09,550 --> 00:30:12,810 from there, okay? And then you can just, once you've done that, you can just sit 498 00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:13,810 down. 499 00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:16,710 All right. 500 00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:21,790 And I'm going to come in. 501 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,740 Hey, baby. 502 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000 Oh, here we go. 503 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,940 You know, so I was, you know, bracing. 504 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,660 I was waiting for something bad to happen. 505 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,420 Take Gigi, take her off the couch, and let's see what happens from there, okay? 506 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Oh, here we go. 507 00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:51,480 You know, so I was, you know, bracing. 508 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,140 I was waiting for something bad to happen. 509 00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:06,930 Stay cool. 510 00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:09,990 Stay cool. We're here. Breathe. Breathe for me. Come on. 511 00:31:10,810 --> 00:31:12,010 Do you see what she just did? 512 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:16,590 Sent a message, starts walking away. The overriding thing in big neon letters 513 00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:20,750 that I saw today was territorial insecurity taken to new heights. 514 00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:25,170 So Nick and Julie's homework this week revolves around a very simple concept, 515 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:27,370 reclaiming the throne for Queen Gigi. 516 00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,010 Now, let me give you some homework for today. 517 00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:36,680 The first thing, in terms of reestablishing the throne, The most 518 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,340 is that Gigi has to be in your bed. 519 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,140 What we're going to start doing is sight swapping, okay? And it's going to be 520 00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:46,560 regimented. It's going to happen daily. 521 00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:52,160 So on opposite days, this one sleeps with you. On the other day, she sleeps 522 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,400 you. It's that simple. 523 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,860 Gigi has to feel like there is a pecking order in this home, and she's on top. 524 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,200 So part of that is to do what I call sight swapping. Sight swapping is 525 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,620 cats gather information through scent. 526 00:32:04,990 --> 00:32:08,850 They get to go in, smell the same things, put their mark on things. It's a 527 00:32:08,850 --> 00:32:13,310 to get to know each other. So at any time, Gigi's in one room and the 528 00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:18,790 in the other room. The second thing is really getting that energy, what could 529 00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:21,830 play energy, out of them. They get played with every day. 530 00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:23,790 Now we want to do the respecting the hierarchy. 531 00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,090 The thing that I'd like you to start doing is cracking the door. 532 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,000 And I want to have feeding done on opposite sides of the door. You can use 533 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,520 stops. Basically, we're going to have them fed on opposite sides of the door 534 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,560 with door stoppers so that everybody is safe. A little bit of visual 535 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,200 stimulation, more scent stimulation, and a slow moving towards each other. 536 00:32:44,260 --> 00:32:47,240 They're at a nice distance, and they're going to eat. But what you're going to 537 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,100 do is you're going to put her food down first. 538 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,980 You're going to say, you are the queen. 539 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,460 And give it a couple of beats, let her start eating. You are the princess. 540 00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:56,020 She gets it second. 541 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:58,800 And finally, I want you guys to journal, journal, journal. 542 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,720 So that next time I'm here, we're going to know these guys so well that your 543 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,380 fear and your feeling of lack of power will be out the window. Okay, thank you. 544 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,379 Okay, fantastic. 545 00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:12,100 I'm excited about the days to come. I have renewed hope that we're going to be 546 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:15,960 able to work things out and that maybe I didn't make the terrible mistake that I 547 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,720 feared I had when I brought her home. 548 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880 I know there's a long way to go. There's going to be some hard work and there's 549 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,040 probably still going to be a bit of thirst lying. 550 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,240 Mm -hmm. 551 00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:34,320 It's been a few weeks since the last time I saw Nick and Julie, Gigi and 552 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:36,860 So I went over their video homework. 553 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:42,220 I saw them starting to play, which was good, and starting to go through the 554 00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:44,860 process of the feeding and the site swapping. 555 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:51,640 That was good, but what I saw that was missing was an actual adherence to the 556 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,860 program I put forward with play and with feeding. They were jumping ahead. 557 00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:00,760 They used a screen door, which lets in all of this information. 558 00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:05,500 Too much sight, too much smell, and of course the cats got too stimulated and 559 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,500 fights followed. 560 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:08,739 So how's it going? 561 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:15,159 Um, I don't really know what to tell you. It's kind of up and down. Okay. Day 562 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,639 day. There was something about Julie this time. 563 00:34:18,010 --> 00:34:22,590 that just wasn't there the last time. I got to tell you, I feel you. 564 00:34:22,889 --> 00:34:25,710 Like, you're just, like, radiating over here. 565 00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:27,830 What's going on with you right now? 566 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:30,270 I think I felt we were going backwards a little bit. 567 00:34:30,650 --> 00:34:34,210 I think I thought that... Yeah, I was ready to throw the towel in there. Yeah, 568 00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:37,409 mean, I've been away for a few days, so Nick has been basically taking care of 569 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,489 them both, and has been at his wit's end at times, and I've called him. He's 570 00:34:40,489 --> 00:34:42,090 just been, I can't cope with this. 571 00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:44,429 When you don't really see a lot of... 572 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,900 then you just think, well, is this really working? 573 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,780 And is it time to get rid of one of them? 574 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,080 And it's the way I've felt from the start, that it just wasn't going to 575 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,160 I don't think there's enough improvement that both cats are happy. 576 00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:01,580 What do you think specifically is upsetting you? 577 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:03,020 It's still the attack. 578 00:35:04,460 --> 00:35:08,240 Nick and Julie are both journalists, which means they're, first of all, used 579 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,240 working on deadlines. 580 00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,980 It's their process. Well, guess what? This isn't their process. Now, what we 581 00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,440 need to do is get up and explore. 582 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,260 They have to move at the speed of cat. There is no deadline when it comes to 583 00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:20,260 cat. 584 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,160 So, because Nick and Julie really didn't do the homework with play as well as 585 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,180 I'd like to have seen them do, and nor did they do the feeding exercise the way 586 00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:32,120 I wanted them to do, I had to step in and do the homework with them. Now, with 587 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,890 cats... Everything is ritual. 588 00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:37,770 So what we're going to do with her is we're going to go straight from the 589 00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:43,810 and after she's caught something, then we go into the eat, right? 590 00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:47,250 Good girl. 591 00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:50,610 I hate speaking in generalities, but here it goes with cats. 592 00:35:50,910 --> 00:35:56,210 Every cat, hunt, catch, kill, eat. You play, you move into food, they go into 593 00:35:56,210 --> 00:36:00,850 grooming, then they sleep. It's a natural life cycle of a cat. Ten minutes 594 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,519 Like that? 595 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,660 That's all I'm asking. You will not see fights. 596 00:36:05,140 --> 00:36:09,160 Nick and Julie did not accomplish my feeding homework the way I asked them 597 00:36:09,220 --> 00:36:13,020 so it was important that I step in, take them through it exactly the way I want 598 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:14,280 to see it for the next couple of weeks. 599 00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:15,900 Here's our door stops. 600 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,260 You just keep her interested in that. 601 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,260 All right, Nick, here I come. 602 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,780 I want you to put this door stop on your side. Don't put it down because I do 603 00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:26,080 want her to, once again, respect the hierarchy here. 604 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,680 We're going to put Gigi's food down first, let the kitten see it, and let 605 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,140 start exploring her food first. So, Nick, whenever you're ready. And that 606 00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:37,680 she says, that's right, I'm the queen. I get fed first, you can watch. 607 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,740 We've got Suki right near the door right now. 608 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,360 We've got Gigi completely eating. 609 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,920 That's what I wanted to see. 610 00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:49,980 The most important thing about this is that both cats know where the other cat 611 00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:54,080 is if they're making the choice for either toy or food or both. 612 00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:59,370 And if you look at Gigi right now, there's none of that, you know, I'm 613 00:36:59,370 --> 00:37:03,790 kill you type of thing going on. When those two cats ate near that door, it 614 00:37:03,790 --> 00:37:05,370 wasn't just a game changer for the cats. 615 00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:10,650 It was also a massive moment for Julie. She just reinvested. And now we can get 616 00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:11,529 some work done. 617 00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:15,230 Finally, the throne work here is very important. 618 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,480 We still have to continue this. 619 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,200 Success is that by the next time I come here, these guys can eat around each 620 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,740 other. We can open that door. 621 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:27,240 Really? By the next time? Okay. Unless you rush and you open the door and we 622 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,158 have an attack. 623 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,820 I think we realize now that things aren't going to happen quickly. 624 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:32,140 What is that? 625 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,320 What is that? 626 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,500 When we see Jackson next, we'll have to make a decision one way or the other. 627 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,780 And hopefully that's a good one. But if it doesn't work, then we'll have to find 628 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:41,479 another home. 629 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Come on. 630 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:51,450 I'm going in for my final visit with Nick and Julie and Sookie and Gigi. 631 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:57,310 The last time I left them, we had made some gains, but just to get these cats 632 00:37:57,310 --> 00:38:01,490 eating within six feet of one another with a cracked door was kind of major 633 00:38:01,490 --> 00:38:05,030 surgery. So I'm not sure what to expect. If these guys really took their 634 00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:07,330 homework to heart, maybe we'll have a breakthrough. I don't know. 635 00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:14,170 I think I might actually have the answer to my question. 636 00:38:15,319 --> 00:38:17,900 How are things going? How have things been since the last time I was here? 637 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,920 Pretty good, as you can see. 638 00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:23,960 I mean, talk about a turnaround. 639 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,020 There's Nick and Julie and Suki and Gigi all sitting on the couch together. Look 640 00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:29,678 at this. 641 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,860 Yeah, things have just changed dramatically in the last eight days or 642 00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:35,940 you were last here. 643 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,140 I mean, the playing seems to have made a big difference. I think Suki has got 644 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:42,400 more confident with the playing. 645 00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:48,560 They play together sometimes with the feather, which is pretty dramatic. 646 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:50,620 Tell me about how feeding has been going. 647 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,580 Yeah, feeding's been going okay. 648 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,860 Between the door and... Yeah, we did that, we did that, and then I have to 649 00:38:56,860 --> 00:39:00,080 confess, on one occasion I had them in the same room together. 650 00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:04,980 When I had the cats in the room together feeding, I felt a bit naughty because I 651 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,160 wasn't doing what Jackson told me to do. They were doing so well, and I just... 652 00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:11,190 I thought it would be okay, and it was. Nick, were you there when this was 653 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:15,030 happening? No. He wouldn't have let me do it. I wouldn't have allowed it. 654 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:17,150 I would have done the same thing. 655 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:23,610 But if that's working for you, then I'd like to see it again, actually. Okay. 656 00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:26,470 I wanted her to recreate it because she said it went fine. 657 00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:29,370 I wanted to make sure she hadn't just gotten lucky one time. 658 00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:34,190 I'm glad that you're respecting the hierarchy here. 659 00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:35,670 Okay. There she goes. 660 00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:41,260 Right now, you can put that bowl down right where she is. There you go. 661 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,440 Leave her alone. Back up a little bit. 662 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,760 That's it. 663 00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:51,000 Yeah. Okay, good. 664 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,140 Okay, good. Guess what? She didn't get lucky. 665 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,220 It actually worked. Let's take it one step further. What I'd like you to do, 666 00:39:56,260 --> 00:40:00,340 Nick, first, pretty easy for you, just to get up and move away. 667 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,060 Now. It's my job to push the challenge line. We have two cats sitting together 668 00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:10,380 inches from one another with the humans next to them with total peace radiating 669 00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:14,200 from this couch. Well, if that's the case, let's push it a little bit. I want 670 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,820 see this as our crowning achievement. 671 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,640 Now, we're just going to sit here for a minute. 672 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:21,880 We're just going to see what happens. 673 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,658 This is amazing. 674 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:35,660 Good girl. 675 00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:40,500 It's interesting now to look back at the place where we were when we started and 676 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,060 then look at where we are today. 677 00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:43,680 Yeah, it's been a pretty dramatic change. 678 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,880 I don't think we really expected to change that much. And to have them both 679 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,860 of sitting nearby on the sofa without any problems is totally unexpected. 680 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,700 All the things that Gigi was working at so hard. 681 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,900 In that rescue situation and in here, overowning. She doesn't feel like she 682 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:04,620 needs to do it anymore. She doesn't feel so threatened. 683 00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:06,060 Huge. Yeah. 684 00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:13,260 Huge. I can't imagine why we would rehome this kitten at this point. I 685 00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:18,260 there's no threat. It was great to see Jackson's reaction to how we'd 686 00:41:18,260 --> 00:41:23,320 progressed. And I think it would be pretty devastating now to have to get 687 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,600 her, especially as we've made such progress. 688 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,200 We brought you something from England. 689 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,560 Oh, really? 690 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:31,120 You got an English present? 691 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:38,320 Remind you of us. Oh, my God. When I first started with Nick and 692 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,720 Julie, with Gigi and with Suki, thank you so much. 693 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,740 I had one cat who literally just wanted to kill another. 694 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,560 We fast forward just a few weeks. 695 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,940 What we have, these two cats sitting on the couch next to one another with no 696 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:55,240 hint of violence to come. 697 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,020 And that makes this job pretty worthwhile. I just couldn't be happier. 698 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:02,360 couldn't get any closer without kissing. 699 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,060 Have a hellish cat? 700 00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:09,840 Get my tips on how to better understand your cat's behavior. 701 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:14,460 Go to AnimalPlanet .com forward slash my cat from hell. 59996

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