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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,535 --> 00:00:02,636 [woman 1] You, you were telling me before, there's a great organization here, 2 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:05,239 in fact, the title to your new 3 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:05,239 movie is 9 to 5. And you 4 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:05,239 really advocate 5 00:00:05,239 --> 00:00:07,174 women getting together, Jane, as a force to-- 6 00:00:07,174 --> 00:00:11,345 It's an organization of clerical workers, office workers. 7 00:00:11,345 --> 00:00:14,481 Uh, some people don't know what women who work in offices have to put up with-- 8 00:00:14,481 --> 00:00:16,283 how many people in the audience are office workers? 9 00:00:16,283 --> 00:00:16,917 Any of you work in offices? 10 00:00:19,353 --> 00:00:21,622 -You a-- [laughs] you're not an office worker. -[woman 1 laughing] 11 00:00:21,622 --> 00:00:23,490 -Oh, you said women? Oh-- You raised your hand! -I'm making a mov-- 12 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:26,293 -Oh, I raised it! -...a comedy about, about office workers. 13 00:00:26,293 --> 00:00:28,128 -Are you gonna hire-- is Dolly Parton playing the lead? -Dolly Parton, I think, 14 00:00:28,128 --> 00:00:31,031 is gonna be in it. She plays the boss's personal secretary. 15 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:33,800 -[laughter] -[woman 1] Is that funny? 16 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,204 It's a movie about secretaries fantasizing about murdering their boss. 17 00:00:37,204 --> 00:00:39,339 -So, it's not a political statement, is-- is it? -[man] Okay. 18 00:00:39,339 --> 00:00:40,807 ["9 to 5" by Dolly Parton] 19 00:00:42,976 --> 00:00:44,378 -[scratching] -[sharp ding] 20 00:00:49,449 --> 00:00:51,852 ♪ Well, I tumble out of bed and stumble to the kitchen ♪ 21 00:00:51,852 --> 00:00:54,321 ♪ Pour myself a cup of ambition ♪ 22 00:00:54,321 --> 00:00:55,656 ♪ Yawn and stretch and try to come to life ♪ 23 00:00:58,659 --> 00:01:01,128 ♪ I jump in the shower and the blood starts pumpin' ♪ 24 00:01:01,128 --> 00:01:03,163 ♪ Out on the street the traffic starts jumpin' ♪ 25 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:06,967 ♪ With folks like me on the job from nine to five ♪ 26 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:12,139 ♪ Yeah! Workin' nine to five what a way to make a livin' ♪ 27 00:01:12,139 --> 00:01:15,676 -♪ Barely... ♪ -[Ellen] One working woman in three in 28 00:01:12,139 --> 00:01:15,676 the 1970s 29 00:01:15,676 --> 00:01:20,180 was a clerical worker. It was the largest job category in America. 30 00:01:20,180 --> 00:01:22,549 [Karen] So, when the movie 9 to 5 came out in 1980... 31 00:01:22,549 --> 00:01:24,584 Typewriter, Dictaphone, adding machine. 32 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:26,853 ...the film was a tipping point. 33 00:01:26,853 --> 00:01:29,923 We were reaching millions of women. 34 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:32,492 Everybody was very nervous about the movie, 35 00:01:32,492 --> 00:01:34,895 because it was three female leads. 36 00:01:34,895 --> 00:01:36,863 And I got some flack working with Jane, 37 00:01:36,863 --> 00:01:39,433 being such a radical gal. 38 00:01:39,433 --> 00:01:41,835 [Jane] I've always believed that film is a good way 39 00:01:41,835 --> 00:01:44,705 to throw light into dark corners. 40 00:01:44,705 --> 00:01:48,041 Uplift voices that aren't often heard. 41 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:51,678 It really connected with me and women of every generation. 42 00:01:51,678 --> 00:01:54,548 My mother and my aunties, there's the sisterhood on screen, 43 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:55,582 the fabulous frocks. 44 00:01:56,917 --> 00:01:58,618 [Violet] Welcome to the front lines. 45 00:01:58,618 --> 00:02:00,620 [Dame Jenni] And for the first time ever, 46 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:04,458 you saw on screen exactly what you knew 47 00:02:04,458 --> 00:02:06,059 was happening in offices. 48 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:09,896 Hold it right there. 49 00:02:10,263 --> 00:02:10,897 What? 50 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:14,534 Turn around a second. 51 00:02:14,534 --> 00:02:17,070 Did I think that 9 to 5 52 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:20,540 would be relevant 40 years after its initial release? 53 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:22,409 At the time, no. 54 00:02:24,745 --> 00:02:27,748 [Amaya] It's 40 years later, right? We still have corporations 55 00:02:27,748 --> 00:02:29,883 reinventing ways to really abuse 56 00:02:29,883 --> 00:02:32,619 and take advantage of vulnerable workers. 57 00:02:32,619 --> 00:02:34,888 I didn't think anybody would want to see it if it was a drama. 58 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:37,224 -[laugher] -[Jane] And once Lily Tomlin 59 00:02:37,224 --> 00:02:38,458 and Dolly Parton came into the picture, 60 00:02:38,458 --> 00:02:40,127 it couldn't be a drama. 61 00:02:40,127 --> 00:02:42,162 Obviously, it was gonna be comedy. 62 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:44,297 You know, we use metaphors in the film 63 00:02:44,297 --> 00:02:46,266 to show how the women couldn't break the glass ceiling. 64 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:47,901 Going up, girls? 65 00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:49,903 No, we're going down. 66 00:02:49,903 --> 00:02:51,605 -[soft clattering] -[elevator door closes] 67 00:02:51,605 --> 00:02:53,907 When I first read this script, 68 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:55,742 I thought it was going to be a hit. 69 00:02:55,742 --> 00:02:59,312 Because of the three gals, Lily, Jane, Dolly. 70 00:02:59,312 --> 00:03:01,081 "Stand up for yourselves." These words were being uttered 71 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:03,183 by these icons. 72 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:03,984 "Don't put up with shit." [chuckles] 73 00:03:05,986 --> 00:03:08,955 "Demand respect." It's a great message. 74 00:03:08,955 --> 00:03:12,359 It was the top-grossing comedy film of the year. 75 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:15,862 It did more than a $100 million at the box office. 76 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:17,631 It was very much radical and transformative 77 00:03:17,631 --> 00:03:19,433 in a way that was funny. 78 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:21,101 -[machine beeping] -[gasps] 79 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:22,169 [Bruce] It was our intention to have 80 00:03:22,169 --> 00:03:24,504 more diversity in the cast. 81 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:27,374 -[Violet] Two... -[Bruce] When there were five secretaries, 82 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:30,343 we really wanted Diahann Carroll to be one of the leads. 83 00:03:30,343 --> 00:03:32,546 And there was a real commitment to hiring 84 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:35,615 a diverse supporting cast. 85 00:03:35,615 --> 00:03:39,686 At the time, there were very, very few roles for Hispanics. 86 00:03:39,686 --> 00:03:42,522 But a big feature 87 00:03:39,686 --> 00:03:42,522 film, like 9 to 5, 88 00:03:42,522 --> 00:03:46,493 to have a Hispanic character, was a big advancement. 89 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:50,197 It was a gift from Jane, who doesn't stand by injustice. 90 00:03:50,197 --> 00:03:53,066 The real Jane, but also her character. 91 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,702 Well, I'm gonna tell her, this is a disgrace! 92 00:03:55,702 --> 00:03:57,537 Attagirl. 93 00:03:57,537 --> 00:03:58,905 But it did touch a nerve. 94 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,475 It was based in reality. 95 00:04:01,475 --> 00:04:03,677 Wait, wait a minute. Weren't you checked out on this machine? 96 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:05,579 I mean, any moron could operate this thing. 97 00:04:05,579 --> 00:04:08,548 It did resonate with enough people 98 00:04:08,548 --> 00:04:10,650 that it really, right out of the box, 99 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:12,085 it just kept getting bigger and bigger. 100 00:04:12,085 --> 00:04:15,155 Something wrong? I got something on my dress? 101 00:04:15,155 --> 00:04:16,890 [man] Nothing's wrong. 102 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:19,426 As a matter of fact, everything is... 103 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:22,062 -...very, very right. -[Zoe] Because it was about 104 00:04:22,062 --> 00:04:24,898 an experience most working women were having in America, 105 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:28,735 it was a breakout moment. 106 00:04:28,735 --> 00:04:30,737 You're so intimidated by any woman 107 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:32,172 that won't sit at the back of the bus. 108 00:04:32,172 --> 00:04:35,242 Spare me the women's lib crap, okay? 109 00:04:35,609 --> 00:04:39,279 If a movie was advertised as a women's liberation movie... 110 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,915 -[man] Mm-hmm. Right. -...me personally, would probably not wanna go to it. 111 00:04:42,916 --> 00:04:44,951 [Bruce] Jane and I had been working on something called 112 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:48,255 the Indochina Peace Campaign and other issues, 113 00:04:48,255 --> 00:04:52,058 and out of that, we decided to try to move forward 114 00:04:52,058 --> 00:04:55,428 to do films that were about the same kinds of social issues 115 00:04:55,428 --> 00:04:57,063 that we'd been involved with 116 00:04:57,063 --> 00:05:00,600 as social activists and organizers. 117 00:05:01,401 --> 00:05:02,769 [Jane] If you're gonna make a movie 118 00:05:02,769 --> 00:05:04,437 and what you're really trying to do is 119 00:05:04,437 --> 00:05:06,873 inform people about an issue 120 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:08,475 that you think is important, 121 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:12,546 you have to embed it in a style. 122 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,951 [narrator] It's about people faced with the agony of telling 123 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,951 the truth. 124 00:05:17,951 --> 00:05:20,620 [Bruce] We made The China Syndrome, which was about 125 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:23,456 -the dangers of nuclear 126 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:23,456 power. -[narrator] The 127 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:23,456 closer they get, 128 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:24,724 -the more threatening it will 129 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:24,724 become. -[Bruce] And a 130 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:24,724 movie about 131 00:05:24,724 --> 00:05:27,160 the Vietnam War, Coming Home. 132 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:32,098 It was nominated for Best Picture and Best Screenplay, 133 00:05:32,098 --> 00:05:36,136 it won for screenplay and actor and actress. 134 00:05:36,136 --> 00:05:40,173 Jane won her second Academy Award with that movie. 135 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:43,577 Even if people don't agree with what you're saying 136 00:05:43,577 --> 00:05:45,312 or don't care about the issue, they're gonna wanna see it, 137 00:05:45,312 --> 00:05:47,080 'cause it's a good thriller or a good, 138 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,649 sexy love story or a good comedy. 139 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:52,652 [upbeat whimsical music playing] 140 00:05:52,652 --> 00:05:55,155 [grunting and indistinctly mumbling] 141 00:05:55,155 --> 00:05:58,191 Well, 9 to 5 was the 142 00:05:55,155 --> 00:05:58,191 name of the movie, 143 00:05:58,191 --> 00:06:01,161 because that was the name of the organization 144 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:05,932 about working women looking for equal pay for equal work. 145 00:06:05,932 --> 00:06:07,033 [woman] Would one of you like to tell me 146 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:09,369 how did this project get started? 147 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:12,038 I think Jane should probably 148 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:12,038 tell you that, 149 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:13,707 because she's the one who started this mess. 150 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,610 -[woman] Jane? -[laughter] 151 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:17,844 Well, I just thought the time had come 152 00:06:17,844 --> 00:06:20,146 to make a movie about office workers, 153 00:06:20,146 --> 00:06:21,815 and I wanted to work with these two women, 154 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:23,717 particularly these two women. 155 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:25,885 -It's a comedy? -God, yes. 156 00:06:25,885 --> 00:06:27,821 -It's a comedy with-- -Very farcical, very funny. 157 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:30,056 -[man] Filled with truth? Right. -Yes. 158 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:33,560 Women are on the lower end of the pay scale 159 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,695 -and in 9 to 5, you know, 160 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,695 it's a depiction really... 161 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,695 -[man] Right. 162 00:06:35,695 --> 00:06:37,297 -...of those kinds of conditions. -[man] Yeah. 163 00:06:37,297 --> 00:06:39,232 -What was your boss like? -Now, you got that? 164 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:41,368 You're the boss. 165 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:44,204 You might remember that a little more often. 166 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:46,072 Women feel their work is important. 167 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:48,908 They know that, uh, that it's skilled work, 168 00:06:48,908 --> 00:06:50,844 and they wanna be treated with respect, 169 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,712 that manifests itself both in the paycheck 170 00:06:52,712 --> 00:06:54,147 and in their treatment in the office. 171 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:57,751 Boston has the third lowest pay scale 172 00:06:57,751 --> 00:07:01,888 for clerical workers, uh, of the 15 largest cities in, in the United States. 173 00:07:01,888 --> 00:07:04,557 Plus, we have the highest cost of living. 174 00:07:04,557 --> 00:07:07,727 [Bruce] Karen Nussbaum was a powerhouse organizer, 175 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:10,597 and Jane and I had known her for many of the social movements 176 00:07:10,597 --> 00:07:14,167 that had been going on in the late '60s and early '70s. 177 00:07:14,901 --> 00:07:17,170 [Jane] So, whenever I would see Karen, you know, 178 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:20,607 her day job was organizing women office workers. 179 00:07:20,607 --> 00:07:23,843 And she would tell me stories about what they would have to put up with. 180 00:07:23,843 --> 00:07:27,080 Not just in terms of sexual harassment, 181 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,084 although that was pretty bad, but, uh, wage theft, 182 00:07:31,084 --> 00:07:32,385 being fired if they were pregnant. 183 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:33,853 [soft clacking] 184 00:07:33,853 --> 00:07:35,221 [Karen] In the 1970s, 185 00:07:35,221 --> 00:07:36,723 there were 20 million 186 00:07:36,723 --> 00:07:38,058 women office workers in the country, 187 00:07:38,058 --> 00:07:40,126 but we were totally invisible. 188 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:43,763 We didn't exist in the popular culture. 189 00:07:43,763 --> 00:07:45,131 [light whimsical music] 190 00:07:46,766 --> 00:07:48,435 We started an organization 191 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:51,871 called 9to5 in 1973 in Boston. 192 00:07:51,871 --> 00:07:54,974 We'd gotten a little bitty office at the YWCA, 193 00:07:54,974 --> 00:07:58,111 where two of us were working for 9to5, 194 00:07:58,111 --> 00:08:01,314 while we also had our day jobs as clerical workers. 195 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:04,584 I was very taken with the history of garment workers, 196 00:08:04,584 --> 00:08:06,953 young women at the turn of the 20th century 197 00:08:06,953 --> 00:08:10,990 who led these huge strikes, 198 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:12,492 walked out of the garment factories 199 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:15,462 and won the eight-hour day, 200 00:08:15,462 --> 00:08:17,831 protection from accidents on the job. 201 00:08:17,831 --> 00:08:22,168 And here I was, sitting in a room full of women, 202 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:24,904 and I thought, "Hmm, this is kind of the same thing." 203 00:08:24,904 --> 00:08:26,339 And of course, working in an office 204 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:28,808 was a lot more pleasant and safe 205 00:08:28,808 --> 00:08:31,678 than working in a garment factory 100 years before. 206 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:34,647 But there were certain things in common. 207 00:08:34,647 --> 00:08:36,516 The job itself is good because, you see, 208 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:38,918 besides that women that have the children, 209 00:08:38,918 --> 00:08:42,989 that stays home and, and cleans the house or cooks dinner, 210 00:08:42,989 --> 00:08:46,860 the job enable us to see ourselves as independent women. 211 00:08:46,860 --> 00:08:48,661 [Karen] I look back on it now 212 00:08:48,661 --> 00:08:52,365 and we were so modest in our demands. 213 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:56,102 "We should have job posting. 214 00:08:56,102 --> 00:08:58,171 We should at least know what the jobs are!" 215 00:08:58,171 --> 00:09:00,707 That was one of our big demands, job posting. 216 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:04,677 But we were also new to this. 217 00:09:05,178 --> 00:09:07,514 We were reaching into women who were not activists 218 00:09:07,514 --> 00:09:08,181 in any part of their lives. 219 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:13,686 [Ellen] Women were not able to march into their boss' office 220 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:16,723 and demand a raise. So we provided forums 221 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:19,192 where people could speak up. 222 00:09:19,192 --> 00:09:21,027 [Karen] And share their concerns. 223 00:09:21,027 --> 00:09:22,529 And so, we were all there together. 224 00:09:22,529 --> 00:09:24,697 Every class, racially-mixed. 225 00:09:24,697 --> 00:09:27,200 And our motto was, 226 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,335 "Raises, Rights, and Respect." 227 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:31,805 [Ellen] The issue of respect, 228 00:09:31,805 --> 00:09:35,708 of being taken seriously as a worker and as a woman, 229 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:37,744 was something that office workers 230 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:40,980 needed to express, bosses needed to hear, 231 00:09:40,980 --> 00:09:44,417 members of the public needed to hear, the media needed to hear. 232 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:47,187 -Okay, okay-- -[Ellen] And 233 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:47,187 Violet really expressed it 234 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:47,187 beautifully. 235 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:49,689 I am your employee. 236 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:52,892 And as such, I expect to be treated equally. 237 00:09:52,892 --> 00:09:56,229 With a little dignity and a little respect! 238 00:09:56,229 --> 00:09:59,065 [women singing] ♪ Secretaries unite ♪ 239 00:09:59,065 --> 00:10:01,334 ♪ Let's show them how we fight ♪ 240 00:10:01,334 --> 00:10:03,570 ♪ For better pay promotion and respect ♪ 241 00:10:05,338 --> 00:10:07,407 ♪ We've sat back long enough... ♪ 242 00:10:07,407 --> 00:10:09,509 [reporter] The point that secretaries, as working people, 243 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:12,245 might have legitimate labor grievances is not a new one. 244 00:10:12,245 --> 00:10:14,414 What is new is the particular forum for dissent. 245 00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:16,049 It's not the disembodied voice 246 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:17,584 of the amorphous feminist movement. 247 00:10:17,584 --> 00:10:19,352 It's this city's secretaries 248 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:22,355 talking about this city secretary's problems. 249 00:10:22,355 --> 00:10:26,059 I got very tired of apologizing for being an office worker. 250 00:10:26,059 --> 00:10:28,394 And I really believe that what I'm doing 251 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:31,130 is very important to the economy 252 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:33,900 and that I should have some respect for what I'm doing. 253 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:36,603 [Karen] Equal pay, sexual harassment, 254 00:10:36,603 --> 00:10:41,441 childcare, those issues unite people 255 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:47,280 who had been divided across different kinds of jobs. 256 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,748 So, we developed what we called 257 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,748 the 9 to 5 Bill of 258 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,748 Rights. 259 00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:53,052 The more our members found their voice, 260 00:10:53,052 --> 00:10:55,722 our demands became more serious. 261 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,291 There was a point at which the women said, 262 00:10:58,291 --> 00:11:02,161 "Wait a damn minute! I'm not gonna take it anymore." 263 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:08,101 Jane has this uncanny ability to see a social trend 264 00:11:08,101 --> 00:11:11,671 and how that can be brought to the public, 265 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:14,574 and so, she met with some of our members 266 00:11:14,574 --> 00:11:16,276 to talk with them about their experiences. 267 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:17,777 [gentle music] 268 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:24,817 After hearing a lot of the stories, I said, 269 00:11:24,817 --> 00:11:27,253 "I-- I would like to make a movie about this." 270 00:11:28,621 --> 00:11:29,822 [Karen] I put together background stats 271 00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:33,593 for Jane to give to the studio that said, 272 00:11:33,593 --> 00:11:36,329 "There's an audience for this." 273 00:11:36,763 --> 00:11:39,866 When popular culture thought about work, 274 00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:41,968 they thought about men in hard hats. 275 00:11:41,968 --> 00:11:44,938 But there're 20 million women office workers, 276 00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:49,309 and they were starving for this kind of representation. 277 00:11:50,009 --> 00:11:54,647 That was important in getting a studio to take a, a gamble. 278 00:11:55,214 --> 00:11:57,383 [Bruce] Karen's background information was just data 279 00:11:57,383 --> 00:12:01,654 and newspaper clippings, it wasn't a movie story. 280 00:12:01,654 --> 00:12:03,856 I couldn't see doing a straight dramatic movie 281 00:12:03,856 --> 00:12:05,892 that would be interesting enough 282 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:09,362 for a mainstream audience to be able to deal 283 00:12:09,362 --> 00:12:12,732 with the subject matter and entertain them at the same time. 284 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:15,168 And that's a lot harder than people think it is. 285 00:12:15,168 --> 00:12:17,904 -[train bell dinging] -[loud rumbling] 286 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:21,474 Preston Sturges films were what I would call "social comedies." 287 00:12:21,874 --> 00:12:24,711 One in particular that stands out is Sullivan's Travels. 288 00:12:24,711 --> 00:12:26,646 We made it. 289 00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:28,581 Amateurs. 290 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,049 Sturges would put his protagonists 291 00:12:30,049 --> 00:12:32,752 in a really unusual situation. 292 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:34,053 [brakes screeching] 293 00:12:37,724 --> 00:12:39,092 -What you doing down there? -[Bruce] They were very funny, 294 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:41,828 but they were a real commentary on the times. 295 00:12:41,828 --> 00:12:43,062 I want this picture to be a document. 296 00:12:43,062 --> 00:12:44,731 I wanna hold a mirror up to life. 297 00:12:44,731 --> 00:12:46,699 I want this to be a picture of dignity! 298 00:12:46,699 --> 00:12:48,901 A true canvas of the suffering of humanity. 299 00:12:48,901 --> 00:12:51,004 -But with a little sex in it? -With a little sex in it. 300 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:53,006 -How about a nice musical? -How can you talk 301 00:12:53,006 --> 00:12:55,341 -about musicals-- -[Bruce] Just boom, it just hit me. 302 00:12:55,341 --> 00:13:00,279 "The way to do this movie about women in the workplace 303 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:03,282 is to do it as an ensemble social comedy, 304 00:13:03,282 --> 00:13:05,184 like Preston Sturges." 305 00:13:05,184 --> 00:13:06,119 -[upbeat dance music] -[horn blaring] 306 00:13:08,388 --> 00:13:10,523 [Lily] Well, Jane came to see me at the Ahmanson, 307 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:11,958 I was doing 308 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:11,958 Appearing Nitely, 309 00:13:11,958 --> 00:13:14,927 which was my first Broadway show. 310 00:13:14,927 --> 00:13:16,362 And I was really excited that she was coming to the show, 311 00:13:16,362 --> 00:13:18,598 and she came backstage, 312 00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:21,267 and I'd been a fan of hers for many years. 313 00:13:21,267 --> 00:13:23,903 [Jane] Just had blown my mind and made me feel that, 314 00:13:23,903 --> 00:13:25,938 "I don't wanna make a movie about women office workers 315 00:13:25,938 --> 00:13:29,108 if Lily Tomlin isn't one of them." 316 00:13:29,108 --> 00:13:31,944 -I was smitten. -Boogie's not a meaning, boogie is a feeling. 317 00:13:31,944 --> 00:13:33,880 Don't try to understand it, try to feel it. 318 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,449 -Do ya feel it? -[crowd laughing] 319 00:13:36,449 --> 00:13:38,751 [Jane] And then, um, true story. 320 00:13:38,751 --> 00:13:41,788 I was driving home from that event 321 00:13:41,788 --> 00:13:44,757 and I turned on the radio, it was Dolly Parton singing "Two Doors Down." 322 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:46,926 -♪ Two doors down... ♪ -[Jane] I thought, "Wow." 323 00:13:46,926 --> 00:13:48,928 ♪ ...and drinkin' and having a party... ♪ 324 00:13:48,928 --> 00:13:50,496 [Jane] She's never 325 00:13:48,928 --> 00:13:50,496 been in a movie... 326 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:52,065 ♪ Doors down they're not aware... ♪ 327 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:54,133 ...but I bet she can be herself on camera 328 00:13:54,133 --> 00:13:57,303 and herself is so multi-layered 329 00:13:57,303 --> 00:13:59,839 and interesting that that would be just fine. 330 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:03,676 ♪ Having a party just two doors down ♪ 331 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:05,945 [Jane] And I could see her, you know, 332 00:14:05,945 --> 00:14:09,482 just the visual of... [laughing] she can't see her fingers 333 00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:12,318 and she's got these long nails, I thought it would be a really cool thing. 334 00:14:12,318 --> 00:14:14,954 -Hi, Violet. How's everything going? -[Violet] Oh, d-- 335 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:16,856 [Dolly] I was getting to be popular in country music, 336 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:21,027 and Jane Fonda called me up and said, 337 00:14:21,027 --> 00:14:23,162 "You're Dolly Parton." I said, "Yes, I am." 338 00:14:23,162 --> 00:14:24,797 She said, "Well, I'm Jane Fonda." And I said, 339 00:14:24,797 --> 00:14:27,700 "Yes, you are." [chuckling] Anyway, 340 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,870 I was really excited that I was even gonna get to work with Jane. 341 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:34,006 This is Judy Burnley. Judy's gonna be working over in my section, DoraLee Rhodes. 342 00:14:34,006 --> 00:14:36,375 -Hi, Judy. Nice to meet you. -How do you do? 343 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:38,478 Hope everybody's been treatin' you real friendly. 344 00:14:38,478 --> 00:14:40,179 -Showin' you around? -[Dolly] Well, when I first started 345 00:14:40,179 --> 00:14:42,181 working with Jane, I thought, "Nah, no, 346 00:14:42,181 --> 00:14:44,183 I hope she's not gonna be so radical 347 00:14:44,183 --> 00:14:47,053 and so opinionated and so political 348 00:14:47,053 --> 00:14:49,455 that I'm gonna be uncomfortable." 349 00:14:49,455 --> 00:14:51,891 And I even said that to her. You know, when we started, 350 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,327 I said, "Now, I'm not a political person." 351 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:58,865 ♪ My mistakes are no worse than yours ♪ 352 00:14:58,865 --> 00:15:03,302 ♪ Just because I'm a woman ♪ 353 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,038 -♪ My... ♪ -[Dolly] I 354 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,038 didn't have to march up and down 355 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,038 the streets 356 00:15:06,038 --> 00:15:09,842 as I still don't. I try to live my convictions. 357 00:15:09,842 --> 00:15:12,044 I'd been writing songs about women 358 00:15:12,044 --> 00:15:15,014 and their strengths since my first album. 359 00:15:16,182 --> 00:15:20,253 But I was dealing with Jane Fonda, the actress, the producer, 360 00:15:20,253 --> 00:15:22,989 and that we were doing a good film that had a good message. 361 00:15:22,989 --> 00:15:25,758 We cast this movie before the movie was written, 362 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:29,362 and I've never done this before, uh, or since. 363 00:15:29,362 --> 00:15:34,167 Um, it really helped in-- inform the development of the characters. 364 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:38,037 So, we pitched the idea to 20th Century Fox 365 00:15:38,037 --> 00:15:41,874 and they made a commitment to a script. 366 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:48,447 Not to the production, but just to the writing of a script based on this idea. 367 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:51,751 So, there are three secretaries working for the worst boss in the world, 368 00:15:51,751 --> 00:15:54,620 and they, they decide to try to kill him. 369 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,856 And that's where we started from. 370 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:59,559 I went and applied for a job as a secretary, 371 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:02,094 and this guy who was hiring said, 372 00:16:02,094 --> 00:16:04,297 "Well, she can't really type, but I'd take her out." 373 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:07,266 [laughing] So, tells you a little bit about, um, 374 00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:09,902 when we were. And the characters, particularly, 375 00:16:09,902 --> 00:16:11,938 what ended up being Dolly's character, 376 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:14,440 very much based on the research that I did. 377 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,610 But we were not entirely happy 378 00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:20,313 with the tone that, uh, emerged. 379 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,949 It was a comedy, but it was a very dark comedy. 380 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:25,384 I had them try to kill him, 381 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:30,156 in funny ways, but it's still-- it's a black comedy. 382 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:33,626 [Bruce] To me, the tone was of utmost importance... 383 00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:36,762 -[frantic music playing] -...because of the nature of the subject matter, 384 00:16:36,762 --> 00:16:39,398 where the three women were going to be 385 00:16:39,398 --> 00:16:41,634 the protagonists in the film, and there was going to be a boss 386 00:16:41,634 --> 00:16:45,438 who was definitely not very attractive, antagonist. 387 00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:46,806 -[muffled groaning] -[Violet] So, what are we gonna do now? 388 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,076 To have men watch that 389 00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:53,346 and identify with the women was very important. 390 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:58,017 So, uh, we adapted the script to the new situation 391 00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:01,020 and hired Colin Higgins, the wonderful writer-director. 392 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,589 [gentle music] 393 00:17:03,589 --> 00:17:05,625 You know, he wrote Harold and Maude. [chuckles] 394 00:17:06,325 --> 00:17:08,628 [Lily] Isn't that enough? 395 00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:12,498 I just love Harold and 396 00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:12,498 Maude, and I was so excited 397 00:17:12,498 --> 00:17:14,634 when he got involved with our movie. 398 00:17:14,634 --> 00:17:18,704 Oh, Harold. I am happy. 399 00:17:19,438 --> 00:17:23,442 He had a quirky view of people. 400 00:17:23,442 --> 00:17:26,479 -[shouts] What? -[siren blaring] 401 00:17:26,479 --> 00:17:29,382 [Jane] And he had a kind of feminist sensibility. 402 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,150 He loved women. 403 00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:32,818 I love you. 404 00:17:32,818 --> 00:17:34,387 There was no hidden agenda. 405 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,622 We always knew what he felt 406 00:17:36,622 --> 00:17:38,190 and what he-- what he wanted. 407 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:40,559 So, it was very easy for all of us, 408 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,862 but that was especially important for Dolly, 409 00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:45,131 because she'd never made a movie before. 410 00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:47,833 [Dolly] Colin was so gentle, so sweet. 411 00:17:47,833 --> 00:17:50,303 He was not, like, scary or demanding, 412 00:17:50,303 --> 00:17:53,339 he was not loud. And that was good, 413 00:17:53,339 --> 00:17:55,908 because I would've not enjoyed a first movie 414 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:57,677 with someone like that. 415 00:17:57,677 --> 00:18:00,680 Those three ladies are just the best. 416 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,882 It was very hard for me because I had my vision, 417 00:18:02,882 --> 00:18:04,917 it was different than his vision. 418 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:09,422 He had little cartoon birds and... 419 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:14,260 ...fantasies, and it was pretty slapsticky. 420 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:15,928 -Violet, get me some coffee. -[sparkly music playing] 421 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:18,164 Yes, sir! 422 00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:21,734 [Bruce] Colin came up with the fantasy sequences 423 00:18:21,734 --> 00:18:26,238 during this process of trying to come up with a new story for 9 to 5. 424 00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:29,041 [Jane] We got about 40 women together 425 00:18:29,041 --> 00:18:32,345 from the 9to5, National Association of Women Office Workers, 426 00:18:32,345 --> 00:18:34,780 and they went around in a circle and they told their story. 427 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:39,952 It was a very stiff and stilted conversation. 428 00:18:39,952 --> 00:18:42,888 [deeply inhales] And just when the meeting was about to end, 429 00:18:42,888 --> 00:18:45,124 Colin said, "Do any of you ever fantasize 430 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,727 what you'd like to do to your boss?" [laughs] 431 00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:51,297 I just thought, "What a genius!" 432 00:18:51,697 --> 00:18:53,566 And we went around the circle again. 433 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:55,101 [upbeat jazz music] 434 00:18:58,437 --> 00:19:00,606 One woman wanted to cut her boss up into little pieces 435 00:19:00,606 --> 00:19:02,608 and put him in the coffee grinder, 436 00:19:02,608 --> 00:19:03,909 and then put him in the coffee machine 437 00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:05,277 and have him... [laughing] drip out. 438 00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:08,114 "Put rat poison in his coffee." 439 00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:10,950 One woman wanted to shred her boss in a paper shredder. 440 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:12,952 I could laugh, Colin could laugh, 441 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:15,755 as men, in this room full of women, 442 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:18,391 listening to their very visual fantasies 443 00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:21,127 about doing in their bosses in very graphic, 444 00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:23,262 -almost cartoonish ways. -[whooshing and dogs barking] 445 00:19:23,262 --> 00:19:25,331 [loudly gasps] Who's there? 446 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:28,300 Looks like you've got yourself in a spot of trouble. 447 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:31,470 [Dabney] When I think of that movie, I always think of Jane 448 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:36,409 when she came out in that outfit dressed like a safari hunter. 449 00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:39,512 You're a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot. 450 00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:40,813 So, I have a few faults, who doesn't? 451 00:19:40,813 --> 00:19:43,149 Is that any reason to kill me? 452 00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:45,351 -[gunshot] -[Dabney] And it was funny, 453 00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:47,486 which is the best way to convince anybody 454 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:48,854 of anything, in my opinion. 455 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,423 I know it's kind of controversial 456 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:52,291 to kidnap your boss... 457 00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:53,859 [announcer] ...Miss DoraLee Rhodes... 458 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,361 ...and, um, hold them hostage, but... 459 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:57,997 [indistinct mumbling] 460 00:19:57,997 --> 00:20:01,333 ...it seemed like th-- the right thing to do. 461 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:04,336 [Lily] Well, I was living in New York at the time. 462 00:20:04,336 --> 00:20:07,540 And, uh, I didn't like some of the humor 463 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:12,812 in the 9 to 5 script, so 464 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:12,812 I turned it down... at first. 465 00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:14,346 There was, you know, things in it 466 00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:16,682 that I would consider kind of silly or empty. 467 00:20:16,682 --> 00:20:18,350 [jazz music] 468 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:19,552 Like, when we were drinking 469 00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:21,854 in the bar after work. 470 00:20:22,188 --> 00:20:25,057 Would you two show a little spunk? 471 00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:28,894 I mean, what are you, a man or a mouse? 472 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:30,896 I mean, a woman or a wouse. [laughs] 473 00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:33,165 -Hey... -[Bruce] When Lily Tomlin 474 00:20:33,165 --> 00:20:36,335 turns down your script and tells you it's not very good, 475 00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:38,704 you start to worry 476 00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:41,740 because she's such a comedic genius 477 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,909 that you begin to think, 478 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:47,546 "What am I not seeing in this script? 479 00:20:47,546 --> 00:20:49,715 -What is she seeing?" -I said first, "man or a mouse," 480 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:51,917 then I say, "woman or a wouse." 481 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:55,488 I don't know, that's just sort of foolish rhyming. 482 00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:58,757 [laughs] And so, I, I tried to get Colin to change that. 483 00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:01,060 And my partner, Jane, she said, 484 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,363 "You threw that script back in Jane Fonda's face. 485 00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:06,732 She developed that movie for you and Dolly. 486 00:21:06,732 --> 00:21:09,335 What is wrong with you?" 487 00:21:09,335 --> 00:21:12,838 [sighs] "I don't know." [laughs] 488 00:21:12,838 --> 00:21:15,741 And I-- but I-- you know, I was-- I don't know. 489 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,043 [Dolly] Well, it wasn't hard 490 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,043 for me to make the decision 491 00:21:18,043 --> 00:21:19,678 to do the movie, because when they said 492 00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,780 its Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin, 493 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,415 I thought, "Well, how hard can this be? 494 00:21:23,415 --> 00:21:25,417 If it's a big hit, 495 00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:27,887 I'll get to, you know, roll around in the glory. 496 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:29,355 And if it's a flop, I can blame it on them, 497 00:21:29,355 --> 00:21:32,358 'cause nobody knows me, anyway, in the business." 498 00:21:33,692 --> 00:21:37,029 -Morning. -[Dolly] And Dabney and I had such fun reversing roles. 499 00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:39,064 -Turn around for a second. -[sighing] Oh. 500 00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:42,968 [whistles] Oh, you got a nice ass, Frank. 501 00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:45,804 No wonder we were all scared to death to work with this dynamo. 502 00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:47,773 She's frightening. 503 00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,208 [Dolly] I got to 504 00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,208 do what Mr. Hart 505 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:51,977 had been doing to us girls in the office! 506 00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:54,880 [sniffs] Boy, that's great cologne you're wearing, Frank. 507 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,316 Oh, thank you. [chuckles] 508 00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,486 That stuff's turning me on. What's that called? 509 00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:03,255 -STUD. -STUD! 510 00:22:03,255 --> 00:22:06,559 [Bruce] Dolly came on board right away. 511 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:10,229 Colin Higgins and I had actually flown to New York 512 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:13,799 to talk to Gilda Radner about possibly replacing Lily. 513 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:17,236 -...selection, Gilda. -Gilda. Oh, 514 00:22:17,236 --> 00:22:19,905 that struck a knife in my soul. I adore Gilda. 515 00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:21,840 And she's from Detroit. 516 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,676 I said, "Oh, God, Gilda'll get this part. 517 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,611 I don't know, I don't know." 518 00:22:25,611 --> 00:22:28,147 And so, I went home, and I told Jane 519 00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:31,016 that I had turned it down. That's when Jane really hit the roof. 520 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,585 She said, "You get on the phone and call them 521 00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:34,353 and tell them you want that part." 522 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:39,325 Yeah. She came to her senses, so all was good. 523 00:22:39,325 --> 00:22:41,193 [woman] What about playing a secretary that appeals to you? 524 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:43,495 I mean, you've played almost everything now. 525 00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:47,199 Well, I play a woman who's, um, 526 00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:49,768 never worked in her life. She's a middle-class woman 527 00:22:49,768 --> 00:22:51,937 who's just been left by her husband, 528 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:55,107 and who goes into the job market, 529 00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:57,343 enters this working world of 9 to 5 for the first time. 530 00:22:57,343 --> 00:22:59,845 [upbeat whimsical music] 531 00:22:59,845 --> 00:23:01,347 [young Lily] In 9 to 5, what's depicted is 532 00:23:01,347 --> 00:23:02,648 just how much we keep the office running. 533 00:23:02,648 --> 00:23:06,151 That's 2:10, at thirty-- 534 00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:07,653 [young Lily] Because I'm a supervisor, I'm not an executive, 535 00:23:07,653 --> 00:23:09,855 but I'm, I'm kind of in charge of a big section, 536 00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:11,390 and I'm an old veteran, I've been there 12 years. 537 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,525 I'm a widow. I have four kids, 538 00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,027 and I really have to keep my job, 539 00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:16,695 but the boss-- I trained the boss, 540 00:23:16,695 --> 00:23:18,998 -I've trained everybody. -Right. 541 00:23:18,998 --> 00:23:20,833 -We could improve efficiency by up to 20%-- -Oh, well, 542 00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:23,002 color-coding, sure, I looked into that, 543 00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:24,703 but that, that needs a little work. I mean, I'm gonna have 544 00:23:24,703 --> 00:23:26,405 to get back to you on that. Yeah. Mm-hmm. 545 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:29,208 [sniffs] Okay. 546 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:31,543 But they never promote me to a-- any executive position, 547 00:23:31,543 --> 00:23:34,046 and he steals my ideas. 548 00:23:34,046 --> 00:23:37,850 We are gonna start color-coding the accounts from now on. 549 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:40,185 -Frank's done a brilliant study with efficiency-- -Yeah, thank you, sir. 550 00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:43,989 Really? Congratulations, Mr. Hart. 551 00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:45,591 [man] What was new to you about doing a film? 552 00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:46,892 Now, as I understand it, you hadn't even seen 553 00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:49,228 a film being made, is that correct? 554 00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:51,697 That's true. I had went through the Universal Tour. 555 00:23:51,697 --> 00:23:55,200 [laughter] 556 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,337 Dolly has this, you know, giggly persona 557 00:23:58,337 --> 00:24:02,675 that is so a-- approachable, and she's so funny. 558 00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,944 -It wasn't really a surprise that she could act. -Oh, hi, Judy. 559 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047 -How's everything going? 560 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047 -[Bruce] She plays the 561 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047 beautiful assistant 562 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047 secretary. 563 00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:09,882 Hey, how would you like to have lunch with me today? 564 00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:12,084 Well, I'm afraid I, I can't, thanks. 565 00:24:12,084 --> 00:24:14,286 -[indistinct chatter] -[Bruce] 566 00:24:12,084 --> 00:24:14,286 That is looked at 567 00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:17,756 by some of the other women as being kind of less than. 568 00:24:17,756 --> 00:24:19,925 Well, I think I should stay in the office an-- 569 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:23,562 and get to know the routine, uh, but thanks, anyway. 570 00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:28,067 -Yeah, sure. -[Bruce] It's kind of a, a reverse sexism, 571 00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:28,067 actually. 572 00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:32,204 Because of their looks, they're viewed as not having top-notch skills. 573 00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:37,776 Those stereotypes really seeped into women's consciousness, 574 00:24:37,776 --> 00:24:40,979 and it took a lot for women to really examine that, 575 00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:45,417 and say, "Is that really me? Am I the office girl? 576 00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:49,822 Or am I a working woman who deserves to be taken seriously?" 577 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,257 -Franklin Hart's office. -[Bruce] In a funny kind of way, 578 00:24:52,257 --> 00:24:55,294 these three very different actresses 579 00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:59,665 also sh-- [chuckling] you know, shared several things 580 00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:03,335 of, uh, trying to make it in a, in a male-dominated industry, 581 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:07,506 playing characters in a movie about women in a male-dominated industry. 582 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,509 That really lent itself to developing that close personal relationship. 583 00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:14,980 Sometimes, during the movie, it was like in high school. 584 00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:17,583 You know, like, I'd see the two of them talking together, 585 00:25:17,583 --> 00:25:19,852 and then I'd think, 586 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:21,820 "They like each other better than they like me." 587 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:24,189 -[laughter] I always thought that... -Lily was always-- 588 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,691 ...th-- especially the first couple of weeks, because you two 589 00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:27,326 started before I did, and I'd come in, 590 00:25:27,326 --> 00:25:28,827 and you'd be in there working in the kitchen, 591 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:30,996 th-- you know, the office kitchen, 592 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:33,832 and I was just sure that they were, like, best friends, 593 00:25:33,832 --> 00:25:35,300 -and they sort of liked me. -[laughter] 594 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,035 I do remember that coming on the set 595 00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:38,804 the first day with Dolly was-- 596 00:25:38,804 --> 00:25:42,708 uh, she had-- 597 00:25:42,708 --> 00:25:45,310 uh, was quite surprised we were not shooting 598 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:48,180 the first scene first. That we were, you know, 599 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,883 shooting the office scenes, because she had, uh, 600 00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:53,652 memorized the whole script. 601 00:25:54,653 --> 00:25:57,122 -[young Dolly] I just assumed we had to-- -[man] Like a play. 602 00:25:57,122 --> 00:25:59,858 -Everybody's part, though. -Yeah, my part and her part 603 00:25:59,858 --> 00:26:02,027 -and her part and Dabney's part. -[laughing] 604 00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:03,862 But I'm not-- just knew the script back and forth. 605 00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,031 And I just, every week, I would, you know, 606 00:26:06,031 --> 00:26:09,034 I would read it and I would read it with my secretary. 607 00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,203 -Uh, I'd have her read the other parts. -Did y-- did you practice-- 608 00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:14,306 -did you pra-- -Yeah, I would practice, yeah. And, uh, that was fun. 609 00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:15,507 -It was-- I tri-- -How were you in my part? 610 00:26:15,507 --> 00:26:17,576 I was great in your part. 611 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,545 [Lily] The first day of shooting, 612 00:26:19,545 --> 00:26:21,647 I had to shoot for the animation, 613 00:26:21,647 --> 00:26:24,049 and of course, the animation wasn't there. 614 00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:26,218 So, it's, like, I had to, like, you know, 615 00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,253 like, little birds are flying around me and all that stuff. 616 00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:30,222 [animated music playing] 617 00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:35,027 I just thought I was terrible. 618 00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,930 I saw my image and I thought, 619 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:40,732 "Ugh, how so stupid, I just can't go through with this." 620 00:26:40,732 --> 00:26:43,068 So, I went to Bruce Gilbert and I said, 621 00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:44,603 "Bruce, you gotta let me out of the movie, 622 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,205 you don't have to pay me or anything." 623 00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:49,241 Those 24 hours, when Lily Tomlin said 624 00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:51,910 she thought she should quit the film 625 00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:55,214 or that I should release her from the film 626 00:26:55,214 --> 00:26:58,383 because her performance wasn't up to snuff, 627 00:26:58,383 --> 00:27:01,720 wa-- you know, w-- was o-- one of those moments, 628 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,889 especially since Lily Tomlin 629 00:27:03,889 --> 00:27:07,192 was so key to playing the demented Snow White, 630 00:27:07,192 --> 00:27:09,728 and she had turned the project down once before. 631 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:12,030 I saw my life flashing before my eyes. 632 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:14,800 Just the first day of shooting in film, 633 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,202 and one of the lead actresses wants to quit the picture. 634 00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:19,872 Now, nobody tells Lily 635 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:21,707 in their right mind how to be funny. 636 00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:24,776 [whimsical music playing] 637 00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:28,714 And if it's not funny now, it will be in five seconds. 638 00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:33,785 And funnier the next day because she knows how to be funny. 639 00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:35,454 We loved Dabney 'cause he was a scoundrel that-- 640 00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:37,890 just lovable scoundrel. 641 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:39,591 You girls, of course, never got a chance 642 00:27:39,591 --> 00:27:42,160 to play football or baseball. 643 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,229 [Lily] And Mr. Hart's walking around, 644 00:27:44,229 --> 00:27:48,300 pontificating about teamwork and playing football. 645 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,603 ...it's probably the best place to learn what teamwork is all about. 646 00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:55,641 And I said to Colin, "Can I just say to Judy, sotto voce, 647 00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:58,310 'Well, I've got the bad back to prove it.'" 648 00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:00,779 And Colin'd say, "Oh, no, no, they'll never hear that." 649 00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:03,148 -It's weakest link-- Goddammit! -[chair clacks] 650 00:28:03,148 --> 00:28:05,117 [Lily] And sure enough, they didn't. They were laughing 651 00:28:05,117 --> 00:28:08,320 at Dabney so much, they would never have heard me. 652 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,455 -Well, I-- -I like someone who knows where the laughs are 653 00:28:10,455 --> 00:28:12,591 ahead of time. 654 00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:15,127 -Good God. -Oh. 655 00:28:15,827 --> 00:28:18,096 [indistinct mumbling] 656 00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:19,998 -[door closes] -Who was that? 657 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:22,668 -A friend. -Obviously. 658 00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:25,003 So, that's what you're into now. Bondage? 659 00:28:25,003 --> 00:28:27,306 -What's that? -And later, Jane says, 660 00:28:27,306 --> 00:28:29,141 "And if I want to do M&Ms or..." 661 00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:31,510 ...have an affair or, or play, play sex games, 662 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:34,846 or do M&Ms, you can't stop me! 663 00:28:34,846 --> 00:28:37,215 -M&Ms? -[Lily] I said, "Well, I don't like that joke. 664 00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:39,985 That's just too lame." And every time, 665 00:28:39,985 --> 00:28:44,990 I'd go to the, to the screening and there'd be riotous laughter. 666 00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:48,694 Colin always knew his audience. 667 00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:52,564 And he knew where the laughs were, he was really kind of divine that way. 668 00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:55,867 So I learned that Lily's first reaction 669 00:28:55,867 --> 00:28:57,903 is not always the best reaction. 670 00:28:57,903 --> 00:28:59,538 [light melancholic music] 671 00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:04,209 [Jane] Back when we made 672 00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:04,209 9 to 5 in the late '70s, 673 00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:07,579 women earned less than 60 cents to the dollar 674 00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:10,649 that a man would earn doing the same work. 675 00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:14,252 And it wasn't easy for women to talk about money. 676 00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:18,657 So, we wanted to show how... 677 00:29:19,558 --> 00:29:21,660 ...biased the system is against women. 678 00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:24,096 All I have done is be a housewife. 679 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:27,899 -Mm. -Oh, I wanted to ask you about my salary. 680 00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:30,235 -I don't think I c-- -It's a very touchy subject around here. 681 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:32,337 You'll have to take that up with our boss, Mr. Hart. 682 00:29:32,337 --> 00:29:34,740 Only six out of 100 women 683 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:37,676 ever made it into management out of the typing pool. 684 00:29:37,676 --> 00:29:40,379 [Jane] So, a very smart woman like Violet... 685 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:44,016 -Would you look at this? -...could train a new guy, 686 00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,184 and then, he would just be promoted right past her. 687 00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:48,020 For Christ's sake, I trained him. 688 00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:49,554 I know that, but see, the, the company-- 689 00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:52,024 Oh, the company bullshit! 690 00:29:52,024 --> 00:29:54,393 It's your decision, you promoted him. You tell me why. 691 00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:57,095 -He does have a family to support. -And I don't? 692 00:29:57,095 --> 00:29:58,597 [man] You don't like women out on a job? 693 00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:01,266 Well, uh, homemaking has its-- 694 00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:03,535 there's two things must clarify, there are homemakers 695 00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:06,104 and there are women that work o-- outside of the home. 696 00:30:06,104 --> 00:30:08,106 Uh, putting these things in proper perspective. 697 00:30:08,106 --> 00:30:10,942 Women should st-- still should be women, you know. 698 00:30:10,942 --> 00:30:13,378 The girls, I think, uh, got it over the guys. 699 00:30:13,378 --> 00:30:15,947 They get everything paid for and everything else. 700 00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:19,251 I don't see what, what they're really... arguing about. 701 00:30:19,251 --> 00:30:22,120 I think they have just as m-- many rights as the guys have. 702 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,057 Well, women that, uh, probably have been divorced or something 703 00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:28,126 have to go out and work. I think there's a special type of work that they should do. 704 00:30:28,126 --> 00:30:30,962 But I think they, uh, should do feminine work. 705 00:30:30,962 --> 00:30:31,830 [young Jane] You know, a lot of people believe 706 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,132 that women who go to work, uh, 707 00:30:34,132 --> 00:30:36,802 do it s-- out of some trip, they wanna be liberated. 708 00:30:36,802 --> 00:30:38,804 And, uh, you know, I think it's important 709 00:30:38,804 --> 00:30:41,139 to recognize that women work 'cause they have to. 710 00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:43,909 [Violet] Norman, she has never worked in her life before! 711 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:46,311 She needs the job. She's recently divorced. 712 00:30:46,311 --> 00:30:48,580 And so? And I'm a widow with four kids. 713 00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:50,449 Jerry should've never died, I c-- 714 00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:51,817 I'd be better off, I could have divorced him. 715 00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:54,286 [light whimsical music] 716 00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:56,321 Many women are the sole supporters of families, 717 00:30:56,321 --> 00:30:58,323 and many women have to work to supplement 718 00:30:58,323 --> 00:31:00,192 their husband's income in order to raise the family income 719 00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:02,294 above the poverty level. 720 00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:06,431 My husband's income did not cover all of our needs. 721 00:31:06,431 --> 00:31:09,267 So I started pursuing a job. 722 00:31:09,267 --> 00:31:12,337 And everywhere I went, they turned me down. 723 00:31:12,337 --> 00:31:16,007 They said, "We do not have work for any women." 724 00:31:16,007 --> 00:31:18,176 Wouldn't even let me fill out an application. 725 00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:21,146 I'd even offer to work free for a week 726 00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:22,514 to prove that I could do the job, 727 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,551 and they still were not interested. 728 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,520 I have four children. 729 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,489 Are you the sole support of the children? 730 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:33,625 -Yes. And I do have-- -That's a pretty strong issue. 731 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:37,028 And I do have to work. 732 00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:39,631 [Patricia] But there was no childcare. 733 00:31:39,631 --> 00:31:43,168 Where were you supposed to leave your kids? 734 00:31:43,168 --> 00:31:46,505 Women are expected to be the primary caretakers 735 00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:51,042 and still show up at offices. 736 00:31:51,042 --> 00:31:55,013 I don't think you can go out to work not knowing, 737 00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:57,382 you know, whether your child is being cared for properly. 738 00:31:57,382 --> 00:32:00,719 It's definitely a, a thought in your mind at all times. 739 00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,721 [gentle music] 740 00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:13,398 [Ellen] It used to be the man working at a job 741 00:32:13,398 --> 00:32:16,568 and the woman staying home and taking care of the children. 742 00:32:16,568 --> 00:32:18,737 Now, all of sudden, we have the syndrome 743 00:32:18,737 --> 00:32:21,339 of women office workers being expected 744 00:32:21,339 --> 00:32:24,409 just kind of take care of men in the office. 745 00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:27,179 Coffee, Violet. 746 00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:30,549 Now. 747 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,784 Yes, sir. 748 00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,286 [Karen] This notion that you were there 749 00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:37,923 to get their coffee just drove us insane. 750 00:32:37,923 --> 00:32:39,791 [Rita] I would call them the Bustelo woman. 751 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,093 Bustelo is a brand of coffee. 752 00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:45,430 And, uh, that's all I was offered, 753 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,266 those kinds of parts after I did 754 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,266 West Side Story. You 755 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,266 know, coffee pourer. 756 00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:51,136 The old thing about coffee and who gets coffee, 757 00:32:51,136 --> 00:32:53,939 I mean, that's not such a big deal, it's just a symbol. 758 00:32:53,939 --> 00:32:56,107 -[man] Oh, right, yeah. -Uh, but when people get 759 00:32:56,107 --> 00:32:59,211 a little more aware about symbols, it means a lot. 760 00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:01,146 Your coffee, Mr. Hart. 761 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,048 I'm glad I had the presence of mind 762 00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:05,417 to be a liberated Snow White. 763 00:33:05,417 --> 00:33:08,286 [whimsical music playing] 764 00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:09,621 I think there was something in that coffee! 765 00:33:09,621 --> 00:33:11,590 Bingo. 766 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,992 [Mr. Hart screaming] 767 00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:15,994 We used to call it, "being the office wife." 768 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,263 You had to take over all of the daily duties 769 00:33:18,263 --> 00:33:21,299 of whatever man you were working for. 770 00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:28,173 The things that bosses felt free to ask their secretaries was just jaw-dropping. 771 00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:31,142 We had a boss who required his secretary 772 00:33:31,142 --> 00:33:35,914 to sew a seam in his pants while he still had them on. 773 00:33:37,082 --> 00:33:40,986 Another boss who required a secretary to clean his dentures. 774 00:33:40,986 --> 00:33:45,490 One who gave his secretary his beeper 775 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:49,327 to go cruise in the bar downstairs from the office, 776 00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:50,996 and let him know if there'd be any women there 777 00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:54,032 who met his specifications. 778 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:59,204 And so, the movie is trying to grapple with these issues. 779 00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:01,506 Oh, Violet, by the way, my wife is coming by later on. 780 00:34:01,506 --> 00:34:02,641 I'd like to get her a little present. Could you pick her out 781 00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:04,342 a nice scarf or something? 782 00:34:04,342 --> 00:34:06,344 All I'm saying, Mr. Hart, 783 00:34:06,344 --> 00:34:08,213 is that my job description doesn't say anything 784 00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:10,115 -about making purchases for your wife. -Goddammit! 785 00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:11,850 When I ask an employee, especially one 786 00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:13,518 who wants to be promoted to management, 787 00:34:13,518 --> 00:34:15,720 I expect a little cooperation-- 788 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,689 [Jane] The issue that got the most attention 789 00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:21,693 because it has to do with sex is sexual harassment. 790 00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:23,561 [phone ringing] 791 00:34:26,331 --> 00:34:29,134 -Hello. -[Shirley] The calls come in every single night. 792 00:34:29,134 --> 00:34:32,737 They range from a very young woman 793 00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:36,174 being harassed by her employer for sexual favors 794 00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:39,344 to a very elderly woman being harassed. 795 00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:43,715 Fortune 500, small companies, school systems. 796 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,052 I can't think of any particular kind of work environment 797 00:34:47,052 --> 00:34:49,254 from which we haven't received a call 798 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:52,057 of either discrimination or sexual harassment. 799 00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:54,225 These women need their jobs 800 00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:56,728 and they have to put up with the kind of remarks 801 00:34:56,728 --> 00:34:58,730 and the kind of attitude 802 00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:01,099 that no worker should have to tolerate. 803 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,935 You know what the man needs? The man needs a good piece of ass. 804 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,837 Why don't you fix him up with your secretary? 805 00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:06,838 -She's the choicest piece around here. -No, no, no. 806 00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:08,840 That's baby's for papa. 807 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,542 [Bruce] You know, we cut down on some 808 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,877 of the sexual harassment scenes. 809 00:35:12,877 --> 00:35:15,280 Some of them were just too cringeworthy, 810 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,382 but the ones we left in were certainly reflective 811 00:35:17,382 --> 00:35:21,052 of women's everyday experiences. 812 00:35:21,419 --> 00:35:23,688 It's five o'clock, Mr. Hart. You wanted to see me? 813 00:35:23,688 --> 00:35:25,690 [Mr. Hart] Oh, I did, DoraLee. Uh, 814 00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:27,926 I'd like you to come over to my house tonight. 815 00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:29,627 Oh, wait now. I'm not, uh, working tonight, Mr. Hart. 816 00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:31,096 This is Friday, remember? 817 00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:34,232 Uh, who said anything about work? 818 00:35:34,432 --> 00:35:36,735 -[chuckles] -[Dolly] I don't take life too serious, 819 00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:38,737 but 9 to 5, it touched on some things 820 00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:40,739 that needed to be touched on at the time, 821 00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,541 back when we did this in, uh, '79, '80. 822 00:35:43,541 --> 00:35:46,311 -Now, let's don't get excited. -Get your scummy hands off of me. 823 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,246 Look, I've been straight with you from the first day I got here, 824 00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:50,248 and I put up with all your pinchin' and starin' 825 00:35:50,248 --> 00:35:52,484 and chasing me around the desk 'cause I need this job. 826 00:35:52,484 --> 00:35:55,620 -But this is the last straw! -Sexual harassment. 827 00:35:55,620 --> 00:36:00,225 It wasn't talked about then. Now, it seems like, "Duh." 828 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,794 -Look, I got a gun out there in my purse. -[grunts] 829 00:36:02,794 --> 00:36:04,562 And up till now, I've been forgiving and forgetting 830 00:36:04,562 --> 00:36:05,663 because of the way I was brought up. 831 00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:08,566 Like DoraLee, I've always known 832 00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:11,603 how to stand my ground based on who, who I am and where I'm from 833 00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:13,738 and how my daddy told me to handle it. 834 00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:15,640 If you ever say another word about me 835 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,909 or make another indecent proposal, 836 00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:20,311 I'm gonna get that gun of mine and I'm gonna change you 837 00:36:20,311 --> 00:36:21,613 from a rooster to a hen with one shot! 838 00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:23,481 [whimpers] 839 00:36:23,481 --> 00:36:26,284 [DoraLee] Don't think I can't do it. 840 00:36:26,584 --> 00:36:27,018 [door bangs] 841 00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:32,323 -Shit. -Somebody was once talking 842 00:36:32,323 --> 00:36:34,859 about doing comedy, they said, if you are doing comedy, 843 00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:38,663 if you're doing funny-- something that's funny, 844 00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:40,799 you shouldn't think of yourself as being funny while you're doing it. 845 00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:45,370 Oh, it's so fragile and elusive, you know, the-- 846 00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:48,807 It's easier to make people cry, 847 00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:52,277 but the thin line that brings someone over the edge 848 00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:55,447 to make them laugh is really easy to miss. 849 00:36:55,847 --> 00:36:59,284 It's very subtle. Very, very subtle. 850 00:36:59,284 --> 00:37:01,886 And, uh, Dabney Coleman, who plays the boss, 851 00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,889 and Lily Tomlin, their timing... 852 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:09,360 -[indistinct chatter] -...their choices are, as any other actor 853 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,364 or director who knows comedy will tell you, brilliant. 854 00:37:13,364 --> 00:37:15,366 Oh, I'm sorry, Violet, why, why don't you sit down. Sit down over there! 855 00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:17,035 I'm just getting ready to play my last card. 856 00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:19,838 I'm gonna send you three bitches to jail. 857 00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:22,373 Originally, the studio wanted a movie star 858 00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:24,209 in the boss's role. 859 00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:26,711 Not a TV actor. 860 00:37:26,711 --> 00:37:28,847 They're going like, "Dabney who?" 861 00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:31,082 At the time, culturally, 862 00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:34,052 there were TV actors and film actors, 863 00:37:34,052 --> 00:37:36,221 and there was a huge gulf in-between. 864 00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:38,857 -Mr. Hart, if you'd only listen. -You listen to me. 865 00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:41,025 I'll see y'all in prison before I'm through. 866 00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:45,830 Steve Martin, Richard Dreyfuss, and other names came up. 867 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:47,866 And we had kind of an uphill battle 868 00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:50,535 because it was a revelation to a lot of people 869 00:37:50,535 --> 00:37:52,837 that women could carry a movie. 870 00:37:52,837 --> 00:37:55,206 And I kept saying to them, 871 00:37:55,206 --> 00:37:57,909 "The women are the star of this movie." 872 00:37:57,909 --> 00:37:59,944 And we had to struggle with the studio 873 00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:02,780 to approve Dabney Coleman in that role 874 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,083 and get the green light to make the movie. 875 00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:06,718 -[rattling] -[indistinct chatter] 876 00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:10,288 I was virtually the only man in the movie. 877 00:38:11,356 --> 00:38:14,259 -And it was thrilling. -I'm gonna get loose. 878 00:38:14,259 --> 00:38:16,461 [Dabney] I mean, I'm stepping in there with three giants. 879 00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:19,063 You start tangling with me, 880 00:38:19,063 --> 00:38:21,232 you better be prepared to play very rough. 881 00:38:21,232 --> 00:38:23,935 So, how important was Dabney Coleman 882 00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:27,038 in the making of this movie or in the success of this movie? 883 00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:29,140 -Enormous. -As you know, 884 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:32,777 the chairman of the board of Consolidated Companies, 885 00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:34,612 -working on consequent-- -[clattering] 886 00:38:34,612 --> 00:38:36,781 Ooh! Oh, the pencils, yeah. 887 00:38:36,781 --> 00:38:40,084 [chuckling] It's all right. I'll get it. 888 00:38:40,084 --> 00:38:42,453 [Bruce] Doing a Preston Sturges type comedy 889 00:38:42,453 --> 00:38:45,757 is extremely hard and actually pull it off. 890 00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:46,791 -Let me help you with those. -No, that's okay. 891 00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:48,760 [Bruce] Dabney plays a role 892 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,096 where he does absolutely despicable things. 893 00:38:52,096 --> 00:38:55,300 You know, you mean so much more to me than just... 894 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:56,935 ...a dumb secretary, so I-- 895 00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,670 [Bruce] And at 896 00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,670 the same time, 897 00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,939 you never really hate him. 898 00:39:00,939 --> 00:39:02,106 -You didn't have to do that. -[Dabney] Well, it is a comedy 899 00:39:02,106 --> 00:39:04,008 and comedies are tricky. 900 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,244 You never know what's gonna work or not. 901 00:39:06,244 --> 00:39:09,814 Mr. Hart, I've told you before, I'm a married woman! 902 00:39:09,814 --> 00:39:11,983 And I'm a married man, that's what makes it so perfect. 903 00:39:11,983 --> 00:39:14,686 -Oh, Mr. Hart. Oh! -No. DoraLee, please. 904 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:18,089 But the trick of it, for all comedy, in my opinion, 905 00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:21,492 is do it straight, especially when you're being bad. 906 00:39:21,492 --> 00:39:22,961 -Oh, for heaven's sake! -I need you-- 907 00:39:22,961 --> 00:39:25,163 What are you doing, Mr. Hart? 908 00:39:25,163 --> 00:39:25,697 Call me, Frank. 909 00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:28,466 Any amount of rottenness 910 00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:29,767 that he wants to display 911 00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:32,003 is perfect for this character, 912 00:39:32,003 --> 00:39:34,038 because he has no redeeming qualities at all. 913 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,841 He is a bad person. But that's the fun of it. 914 00:39:36,841 --> 00:39:40,445 -Oh! Whoa! No. -Oh-- Did you hurt yourself? 915 00:39:40,845 --> 00:39:43,181 Wha-- what are you doing down here? 916 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,150 Anyone who would take, uh, that seriously 917 00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:49,887 and say, "Well, that is not what all, uh, male bosses are like," 918 00:39:49,887 --> 00:39:51,889 -is missing the point. -Dabney Coleman is not 919 00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:53,658 all that different from Mr. Hart! 920 00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:55,526 He's a Texas boy for real. 921 00:39:55,526 --> 00:39:57,528 [upbeat inspirational music] 922 00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:59,864 But he's such a pro, though. 923 00:39:59,864 --> 00:40:02,533 He knew all about male chauvinists, 924 00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:05,003 growing up there in Texas with those good ole boys. 925 00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:06,971 Mr. Hart, if you touch that phone, I'm gonna jerk it 926 00:40:06,971 --> 00:40:07,972 -clean out of the wall. -[Dolly] And so, 927 00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:09,574 we had a real good time 928 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:10,742 -on the set. -Whoa. 929 00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,076 -[grunts] I mean it. -Oh! 930 00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:13,978 I know you think this is all a joke. 931 00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:16,247 [Mr. Hart indistinctly mumbling] 932 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,849 [Bruce] I credit 933 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,849 Colin with giving us 934 00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:20,218 the device of kidnapping the boss. 935 00:40:20,218 --> 00:40:22,587 That structure gave us the ability 936 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:25,490 to put in the issues that the feminist movement 937 00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:28,226 and the 9to5 organization wanted to see happen in real life. 938 00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:30,000 -Like equal pay, 939 00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:30,695 -[typewriter clacking] 940 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,695 -Like equal pay, 941 00:40:30,695 --> 00:40:33,865 like who gets promoted, like maternity leave. 942 00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:35,366 Not to mention, sexual harassment. 943 00:40:35,366 --> 00:40:38,169 [typewriter dings and clacks] 944 00:40:38,169 --> 00:40:41,105 The movie really pointed out a lot things, 945 00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:43,341 a lot of issues that needed to be dealt with. 946 00:40:43,341 --> 00:40:47,011 And the fact that it was what it was at that time, 947 00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:50,748 you know, it's almost like a protest movie of a sort. 948 00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:52,684 [women chanting] 949 00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:52,684 ♪ Join us now! ♪ 950 00:40:52,684 --> 00:40:56,587 ♪ Sisterhood is powerful! Join us now! ♪ 951 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,424 -♪ Sisterhood is powerful! 952 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,424 -[Zoe] Second-wave 953 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,424 American feminism 954 00:40:59,424 --> 00:41:04,028 started in the '60s alongside the civil rights movement. 955 00:41:04,028 --> 00:41:08,433 Women were saying, "I want equity, I want parity, 956 00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:12,203 I want equality, I want equal rights under the law." 957 00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:14,539 [reporter] "Join us now. Sisterhood is powerful." 958 00:41:14,539 --> 00:41:17,575 The battle cry of the women's liberation movement, 959 00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:20,144 to protest against all kinds of discrimination, 960 00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:23,414 which they say they suffer in a world run largely by men. 961 00:41:23,414 --> 00:41:25,249 [women chanting] ♪ Free our sisters! Free ourselves! ♪ 962 00:41:25,249 --> 00:41:27,719 ♪ Free our sisters! Free ourselves ♪ 963 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,120 -♪ Free our sisters! ♪ -[Zoe] We were on the upswing 964 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,091 of human right, and it was all gonna turn out great. 965 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:35,960 We were on the road to right. 966 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,397 To morality and ethics and civil rights. 967 00:41:39,397 --> 00:41:43,468 [Rita] I thought that feminists were extreme 968 00:41:43,468 --> 00:41:47,839 and terribly embarrassing and pushy and aggressive. 969 00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:52,143 And I could not conceive of myself ever saying publicly, 970 00:41:52,143 --> 00:41:54,679 "I don't deserve this terrible treatment." 971 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:55,947 I didn't think it was terrible treatment. 972 00:41:55,947 --> 00:41:57,482 I thought it was-- that was the norm. 973 00:41:57,482 --> 00:41:58,950 [suspenseful music] 974 00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:01,319 [Karen] By the late '70s, 975 00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:04,322 there was a huge backlash against the women's movement, 976 00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:07,625 and "feminism" was a hot word. 977 00:42:07,625 --> 00:42:09,360 The Equal Rights Amendment 978 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,165 will die 16 months from Tuesday. 979 00:42:14,499 --> 00:42:18,536 [Karen] There were forces that would take the language of feminism, 980 00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:23,374 and it was used as a weapon against women's equality. 981 00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,877 We wanted to sidestep that. 982 00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:29,814 [melancholic music] 983 00:42:29,814 --> 00:42:32,283 [Ellen] Many 9to5 members would join the organization saying, 984 00:42:32,283 --> 00:42:34,852 "I'm not a feminist." 985 00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:36,821 I don't understand what women's lib is, anyway. 986 00:42:36,821 --> 00:42:40,525 Women are becoming less women. 987 00:42:40,525 --> 00:42:43,227 I wanna be a woman, I wanna be treated like a woman and feminine, 988 00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:46,631 and the way we always were treated. 989 00:42:46,631 --> 00:42:49,500 "But I believe in fair pay, I believe in women's equality." 990 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,670 Well, pay could be better, yes. 991 00:42:54,205 --> 00:42:57,675 [Jane] In 9 to 5, we were drilling down into the 992 00:42:54,205 --> 00:42:57,675 issues. 993 00:43:00,044 --> 00:43:03,748 We wanted to show how three very different women came together. 994 00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:06,684 It's lookin' good. But if we're gonna do this, 995 00:43:06,684 --> 00:43:09,253 why don't we make changes that really count? 996 00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:12,590 There was a point at which the women said, 997 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,326 "We're just gonna take over! We can do it better. We're doing it, anyway. 998 00:43:15,326 --> 00:43:18,062 We're not given the credit or the pay, but we're doing it. 999 00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:20,665 This guy doesn't know what the hell he's doing. 1000 00:43:20,665 --> 00:43:22,400 If it wasn't for Violet, he'd run the thing 1001 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,169 into the ground." And so, they just took over. 1002 00:43:25,169 --> 00:43:27,004 -Hold it right there. -[door opens] 1003 00:43:27,939 --> 00:43:30,374 My God, you're as crazy as the other two. 1004 00:43:30,374 --> 00:43:32,944 Not that feminism means that women have to take over, 1005 00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:35,913 but it means coming into your own, 1006 00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:39,450 it means having agency. 1007 00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:43,454 The women began to feel they had agency over their jobs, 1008 00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:45,056 their workplace, and their lives. 1009 00:43:45,056 --> 00:43:46,457 [gentle music] 1010 00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,926 [Lily] I admired Jane. 1011 00:43:48,926 --> 00:43:52,396 I didn't think she was a radical feminist by any means. 1012 00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:55,533 But I knew her pretty well 1013 00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:55,533 from her movies, 1014 00:43:55,533 --> 00:43:58,269 her earlier movies, 1015 00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:02,273 gossip sheets, and movie magazines. 1016 00:44:02,273 --> 00:44:04,775 But she certainly was a, 1017 00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:08,446 a person of consciousness and awareness. 1018 00:44:08,446 --> 00:44:10,781 [Bruce] Jane was, by this time, a major movie star 1019 00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:13,584 when we were making 1020 00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:13,584 the movie 9 to 5. 1021 00:44:14,051 --> 00:44:17,455 And one of the things she had developed as an actress 1022 00:44:17,455 --> 00:44:23,728 was the relationship between the costumes and the actress, 1023 00:44:23,728 --> 00:44:25,963 being able to develop a character 1024 00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:28,966 who's got a whole backstory. 1025 00:44:28,966 --> 00:44:33,571 Costumes are always very important to an actor, 1026 00:44:33,571 --> 00:44:38,943 and Ann Roth is the quintessential actor's costumier. 1027 00:44:38,943 --> 00:44:41,612 [Ann] I had worked 1028 00:44:38,943 --> 00:44:41,612 with Jane on Klute 1029 00:44:41,612 --> 00:44:44,982 and Jane is the consummate actor. 1030 00:44:44,982 --> 00:44:48,452 I was most interested in making them 1031 00:44:48,452 --> 00:44:52,490 look like working girls who punched a time clock. 1032 00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:55,660 Very normal. The kind of women 1033 00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:57,862 that you would see 1034 00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:57,862 in Life Magazine, 1035 00:44:57,862 --> 00:44:59,964 not Mademoiselle, not Vogue. 1036 00:44:59,964 --> 00:45:03,000 -[Violet] Is that her? -[man] Yes. 1037 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,168 We're gonna need a special locker for the hat. 1038 00:45:04,168 --> 00:45:06,170 [elevator dings] 1039 00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:09,006 You figure out each one of those women, 1040 00:45:09,006 --> 00:45:11,609 where she comes from, where she lives, 1041 00:45:11,609 --> 00:45:13,678 how much she spends on her clothes. 1042 00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:16,280 And they should look real. 1043 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,550 Although, of course, Dolly was expected to be Dolly. 1044 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:22,286 I will soitenly tell him, Roz. 1045 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,657 [Bruce] Everything with the costumes was to underscore 1046 00:45:26,657 --> 00:45:29,226 that these three very different characters 1047 00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:31,963 would come across as three smart girls, 1048 00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:34,699 and I think it paid off in the film. 1049 00:45:35,399 --> 00:45:37,301 [young Dolly] But I love the character that Jane played, 1050 00:45:37,301 --> 00:45:39,203 because oddly enough, 1051 00:45:39,203 --> 00:45:42,840 I saw in that character a great deal of you, 1052 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,042 of another side of Jane that, that people don't see all the time. 1053 00:45:45,042 --> 00:45:47,345 She's very outspoken as a rule, 1054 00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:50,548 and people think sometimes, you know, even hard. 1055 00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:54,852 But there was this sweet, gentle little girl side in Jane 1056 00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:58,222 that I think is, is so sweet and loveable. 1057 00:45:58,222 --> 00:46:01,826 And that was one of the big surprises, you know, in working with, with her. 1058 00:46:01,826 --> 00:46:04,328 This particular trip I've spent talking about boobs 1059 00:46:04,328 --> 00:46:06,897 and, uh, and how I deal with Jane 1060 00:46:06,897 --> 00:46:09,166 -and what my folks think about Jane... -[laughter] 1061 00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:12,203 ...and what the south thinks about me being friends with Jane, 1062 00:46:12,203 --> 00:46:13,904 -but, you know, if we had agreed to do it-- -[laughter] 1063 00:46:13,904 --> 00:46:15,106 -[cross talk] -I can't believe it, can you? 1064 00:46:15,106 --> 00:46:15,906 [Dolly] You wouldn't believe the things 1065 00:46:15,906 --> 00:46:17,508 they're asking me, honestly. 1066 00:46:17,508 --> 00:46:18,542 -[cross talk] -I'm dumbfounded. 1067 00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,011 ...she reappeared three ro-- 1068 00:46:20,011 --> 00:46:21,278 Well, I'm just saying, I, you know, 1069 00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:23,047 -and I've said, you know-- -[laughter] 1070 00:46:23,047 --> 00:46:23,848 [Dolly] The three of us were so 1071 00:46:23,848 --> 00:46:25,716 completely different, 1072 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:27,251 -but we were so connected. -Wait-- 1073 00:46:27,251 --> 00:46:28,586 -I forgot my line. -That's all right-- 1074 00:46:28,586 --> 00:46:29,920 [Dolly] We really respected 1075 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,422 and admired each other 1076 00:46:31,422 --> 00:46:33,591 for our own beliefs 1077 00:46:33,591 --> 00:46:34,925 and for our own principles and values, 1078 00:46:34,925 --> 00:46:36,560 and it really showed on screen, 1079 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,595 'cause we really liked each other. 1080 00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:39,230 Like our characters, 1081 00:46:39,230 --> 00:46:42,199 we were, at that time, very smart gals, 1082 00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,101 proud that we were accomplishing all these things, 1083 00:46:44,101 --> 00:46:45,469 being strong women. 1084 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:48,606 -How's Lily? -[laughs] 1085 00:46:48,606 --> 00:46:50,775 -[beeps] -[Jane] Dolly, Lily, and I 1086 00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:52,710 are kind of cool. 1087 00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:52,710 [chuckles] I don't know, 1088 00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:52,710 we're fun. 1089 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:55,446 Wow. I thought I have a V-8. [laughs] 1090 00:46:55,446 --> 00:46:56,647 [Jane] And so, when you get the three of us together... 1091 00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:59,050 [laughter] 1092 00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:01,318 -...it's even funner. -Wait. No. W-- wait. 1093 00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:03,254 -[laughing] -No, you're hysterical. Now, stop it, Violet. 1094 00:47:03,254 --> 00:47:05,790 -You're completely hysterical. Calm down. -I can't help it. 1095 00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:08,626 -I really admire Dolly. -Violet, honey? Could you-- 1096 00:47:08,626 --> 00:47:10,928 -[laughter] -[Jane] It's not just the things 1097 00:47:10,928 --> 00:47:12,730 that you know about her, but she's got 1098 00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:15,800 a very deep side to her. 1099 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,803 Very perceptive, very smart, and playful. 1100 00:47:18,803 --> 00:47:21,138 -[laughter] -[beeps] 1101 00:47:21,138 --> 00:47:23,808 Do-- what's green and smell like Miss Piggy, Judy? 1102 00:47:23,808 --> 00:47:25,810 -[laughing] No! -[laughter] 1103 00:47:25,810 --> 00:47:27,411 Kermit's finger. Look at that. 1104 00:47:27,411 --> 00:47:29,480 -[laughter and cross talk] -[beeps] 1105 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,816 When Jane and I first started working with her, 1106 00:47:31,816 --> 00:47:34,485 it was just astonishing, especially for Dabney. 1107 00:47:34,485 --> 00:47:37,154 Aw, that wasn't so bad, was it? 1108 00:47:37,154 --> 00:47:39,623 -[Lily] Because Dolly's figure... -No. 1109 00:47:39,623 --> 00:47:42,660 ...is out of the scale of human proportions. 1110 00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:45,429 Jane and I would be turning, we go, "Oh, Dolly! I'm so sorry." 1111 00:47:45,429 --> 00:47:48,365 Her head would be way back here. And a couple times, 1112 00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:52,803 we did, like, have a collision with Dolly. 1113 00:47:52,803 --> 00:47:55,172 Have you always been, um, 1114 00:47:57,208 --> 00:48:00,778 uh, you know, well-endowed? I mean, even in school 1115 00:48:00,778 --> 00:48:02,546 were you like that? 1116 00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:04,148 Yeah, I couldn't leave them home. 1117 00:48:04,148 --> 00:48:07,551 [crowd laughing] 1118 00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:11,956 ♪ Workin' nine to five what a way to make a livin' ♪ 1119 00:48:11,956 --> 00:48:16,160 -♪ Barely gettin' by... ♪ 1120 00:48:11,956 --> 00:48:16,160 -I said to Jane, 1121 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,029 "Yes, I would love to do this movie, under one condition. 1122 00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:21,532 I get to write the theme song and sing it." 1123 00:48:21,532 --> 00:48:23,534 That was part of my deal. 1124 00:48:23,534 --> 00:48:25,703 And she said, "Well, fair enough." 1125 00:48:25,703 --> 00:48:27,571 ♪ ...nine to five ♪ 1126 00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:29,306 [Nicholas] We were shooting on the Fox lot, 1127 00:48:29,306 --> 00:48:33,043 and one day, I was walking to the stage, 1128 00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:37,148 and it was Dolly's day off, but Dolly had come to the set 1129 00:48:37,148 --> 00:48:40,050 and she was in the, uh, teamster's car, she's in the back seat, 1130 00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:42,052 and she had the window down and she said, "Nicholas, 1131 00:48:42,052 --> 00:48:44,355 come over here, come over here!" And I went, "Oh, hi, Dolly." 1132 00:48:44,355 --> 00:48:46,991 And I went over there, and she had her guitar. 1133 00:48:46,991 --> 00:48:49,059 And she is, "Listen to this. What do you think?" 1134 00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:51,595 -Yeah, I-- I'll start it now. Yeah. -She wrote it pretty much. 1135 00:48:51,595 --> 00:48:53,731 -I mean, you guys, you guys-- -Perfectly, but we know-- 1136 00:48:53,731 --> 00:48:56,167 Uh, yeah. Don't start until I point a-- 1137 00:48:56,167 --> 00:49:00,671 -an accusing finger, okay? So, it goes-- -[throats clearing] 1138 00:49:00,671 --> 00:49:05,342 -♪ I'm... ♪ -♪ Workin' nine to five what a way to make a livin' ♪ 1139 00:49:05,342 --> 00:49:08,679 ♪ Barely gettin' by it's all... ♪ 1140 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,080 [young Dolly] We recorded this last week, and we had 1141 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,516 all the secretaries come on set, 1142 00:49:12,516 --> 00:49:14,685 and Jane and Lily come over, and we did, like, a sing-along. 1143 00:49:14,685 --> 00:49:20,591 ♪ ...it's enough to drive you crazy if you let it ♪ 1144 00:49:20,591 --> 00:49:24,228 -♪ Nine to five for service and devotion... ♪ -[laughing] 1145 00:49:24,228 --> 00:49:26,063 ♪ Nine to five ♪ 1146 00:49:26,063 --> 00:49:28,132 And she was clicking with her fingernails 1147 00:49:28,132 --> 00:49:30,201 and everything. I said, "What's that?" 1148 00:49:30,201 --> 00:49:31,602 And she said, "I just wrote that for the film. 1149 00:49:31,602 --> 00:49:33,637 Do you think it's any good?" 1150 00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:35,139 I said, "I've only heard 20 seconds, 1151 00:49:35,139 --> 00:49:36,373 but it's a hit, Dolly." 1152 00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:38,742 [fingernails clicking] 1153 00:49:38,742 --> 00:49:40,878 That's how she said she wrote "9 to 5." 1154 00:49:42,112 --> 00:49:44,281 I'm not very good at that either. 1155 00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:46,984 Just, "Do you think I should play it for Jane and Colin?" 1156 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:49,620 "Yes!" So, I think I might've been 1157 00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:51,956 the first person to ever hear that song. 1158 00:49:51,956 --> 00:49:54,124 [Lily] I said to Bruce Gilbert and Jane, 1159 00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:56,627 "If this movie is not a big hit, this song will be. 1160 00:49:56,627 --> 00:49:58,062 It will make us a hit." 1161 00:49:58,062 --> 00:50:00,598 [upbeat music] 1162 00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,634 [Bruce] 9 to 5 was 1163 00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,634 released in December of 1980. 1164 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:10,407 Obviously, we were not a Christmas movie. 1165 00:50:10,407 --> 00:50:13,811 So, there was certainly some trepidation from the studio 1166 00:50:13,811 --> 00:50:16,647 about whether this would be a very popular film. 1167 00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:18,782 And there were a lot of other comedies 1168 00:50:18,782 --> 00:50:20,951 being released at the exact same time. 1169 00:50:20,951 --> 00:50:24,255 I sentence you to 125 years. 1170 00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:26,156 [yelling] What? What? 1171 00:50:26,156 --> 00:50:27,658 [loud thuds] 1172 00:50:27,658 --> 00:50:30,127 Have you got the right case? 1173 00:50:30,127 --> 00:50:32,930 [Dolly] I'm sure that Jane was really sweating it, 1174 00:50:32,930 --> 00:50:36,166 hoping that she was right, hoping that it would do well, 1175 00:50:36,166 --> 00:50:38,769 but I just remember thinkin', "This could go either way." 1176 00:50:38,769 --> 00:50:41,305 [camera shutters clicking] 1177 00:50:41,305 --> 00:50:43,641 [reporter] Another major movie premiere here in Hollywood. 1178 00:50:43,641 --> 00:50:45,943 Tonight, it's 9 to 5, 1179 00:50:45,943 --> 00:50:48,345 the movie that's starring Lily Tomlin, 1180 00:50:48,345 --> 00:50:51,482 Jane Fonda, and Dolly Parton, 1181 00:50:51,482 --> 00:50:55,052 who up until tonight has been known as a singing star. 1182 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:57,154 -She steals the movie. She's-- absolutely. -Does she-- 1183 00:50:57,154 --> 00:50:59,523 She's absolutely wonderful. She's a natural. 1184 00:50:59,523 --> 00:51:02,126 [Ellen] The movie also had it's New York premiere, 1185 00:51:02,126 --> 00:51:03,961 and we were sitting in the audience. 1186 00:51:03,961 --> 00:51:06,030 I remember Karen squeezing my hand 1187 00:51:06,030 --> 00:51:08,732 and just-- we were just so thrilled. 1188 00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:10,701 [Karen] We knew that we couldn't do this on our own. 1189 00:51:10,701 --> 00:51:14,338 And the glamour of Hollywood! 1190 00:51:14,338 --> 00:51:18,676 Jane Fonda, Dolly Parton, and Lily Tomlin had our backs now. 1191 00:51:18,676 --> 00:51:21,011 -You look great tonight. How does one go about choosing... -Oh, thank you! 1192 00:51:21,011 --> 00:51:23,414 ...uh, what she wears to her movie premiere? 1193 00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:26,250 Well, one just has to have somebody 1194 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:28,919 make a couple of things a-- and pick from 'em. 1195 00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:32,222 And Ann Roth did this dress, and I love white. 1196 00:51:32,523 --> 00:51:35,326 [Lilly] We all went to see it, and we were just floored 1197 00:51:35,326 --> 00:51:39,563 with how accurate even the comedy parts were. 1198 00:51:39,563 --> 00:51:41,832 [Ellen] Jane was asked, "Are you lighting a fire 1199 00:51:41,832 --> 00:51:45,235 under the desks in the offices of America?" 1200 00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:48,172 And she said, "No. Secretaries are lighting those fires, 1201 00:51:48,172 --> 00:51:50,741 and we are just fanning the flames." 1202 00:51:50,741 --> 00:51:53,077 [young Jane] We've shown it to a lot of audiences and they just roar. 1203 00:51:53,077 --> 00:51:54,611 And men love it just as much as women. 1204 00:51:54,611 --> 00:51:56,547 I think it's gonna... 1205 00:51:57,948 --> 00:52:00,851 -...it's gonna make a lot of people very happy. -[laughter] 1206 00:52:01,618 --> 00:52:04,254 [Roger] Unfortunately, this is a comedy that's kind of dumb, 1207 00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:06,056 where the three secretaries in a giant corporation, 1208 00:52:06,056 --> 00:52:08,258 and they are, of course, the victims 1209 00:52:08,258 --> 00:52:11,261 of rampaging corporate male chauvinist piggism. 1210 00:52:11,261 --> 00:52:13,597 -[chuckles] -But, uh, when it doesn't get on its high horse 1211 00:52:13,597 --> 00:52:15,466 and isn't trying to hit us over the head with its message, 1212 00:52:15,466 --> 00:52:16,567 the movie's great fun to watch. 1213 00:52:16,567 --> 00:52:18,102 [upbeat rock music] 1214 00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:37,087 [Bruce] 9 to 5 was the second highest-grossing film, 1215 00:52:37,087 --> 00:52:39,957 only coming in behind one of the Star Wars films. 1216 00:52:39,957 --> 00:52:42,126 And some critics had a problem with the movie, 1217 00:52:42,126 --> 00:52:44,161 but the important thing is that 9 to 5 1218 00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,830 became popular all over the world. 1219 00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:51,635 And 40 years later, it's a classic film. 1220 00:52:52,269 --> 00:52:54,838 As very earnest activists, 1221 00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:57,574 we sometimes had a problem with the comedy. 1222 00:52:57,574 --> 00:52:58,575 [upbeat suspenseful music playing] 1223 00:53:01,111 --> 00:53:04,481 -[shakily] Hi? -It was not some... [sighs] po-faced 1224 00:53:04,481 --> 00:53:06,950 feminist bangin' on. 1225 00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:10,654 It was a group of brilliant actors 1226 00:53:10,654 --> 00:53:15,192 being funny and succeeding. 1227 00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:18,128 I remember seeing the film and going, "Oh, my goodness! 1228 00:53:18,128 --> 00:53:21,331 I don't believe it. They've done it." 1229 00:53:21,331 --> 00:53:24,034 [Zoe] I'm hoping that the women went to work that day 1230 00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:27,604 and fantasized, "Now, I wonder if we could get that 1231 00:53:27,604 --> 00:53:30,340 attached to the ceiling." 1232 00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:31,975 You know, you just don't know what silliness 1233 00:53:31,975 --> 00:53:33,710 they might've been inspired to do, 1234 00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:36,346 but they were emboldened... 1235 00:53:36,346 --> 00:53:38,315 -[dings] -[Mr. Hart screaming] 1236 00:53:38,315 --> 00:53:40,451 ...because it was on screen and it was fun. 1237 00:53:40,451 --> 00:53:41,685 DoraLee! [indistinctly mumbles] 1238 00:53:43,287 --> 00:53:45,689 [Lily] When we were promoting the film, 1239 00:53:45,689 --> 00:53:47,991 we were, uh, counseled by some media person. 1240 00:53:52,029 --> 00:53:56,800 And he told us that we should emphasize that it's a comedy. 1241 00:53:57,167 --> 00:53:59,837 The movie 9 to 5 is 1242 00:53:57,167 --> 00:53:59,837 a message movie, uh, 1243 00:53:59,837 --> 00:54:01,705 a little heavy-handed, in my estimation. 1244 00:54:01,705 --> 00:54:03,240 -Do ya think so? -Yeah, and I'm a very active feminist. 1245 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,375 -Uh-- -Oh. 1246 00:54:06,477 --> 00:54:11,081 They must have known how certain issues, uh, might be perceived. 1247 00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:13,050 [mimicking woman] Phoenicia, 1248 00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:13,050 last night, I saw 9 to 5, 1249 00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:15,853 and let me tell you, it opened my eyes to new horizons. 1250 00:54:15,853 --> 00:54:18,021 I've taken enough gaffe and enough crud 1251 00:54:18,021 --> 00:54:20,257 around this place for long enough. 1252 00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:23,060 I've been a-- [stutters] I've been a retiring person, 1253 00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:25,729 I've tried to please everyone. I've had a pleasant personality 1254 00:54:25,729 --> 00:54:27,598 under t-- under the duress of it all, 1255 00:54:27,598 --> 00:54:29,399 but believe me, things are gonna change, 1256 00:54:29,399 --> 00:54:31,602 and I'm gonna give the old boss's plug a yank. 1257 00:54:32,436 --> 00:54:35,239 [Rita] The film was giving permission to women, 1258 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,576 who maybe were still reticent, like myself. 1259 00:54:39,576 --> 00:54:41,678 "Don't put with that." 1260 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,249 And a lot of women in America 1261 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,249 loved that message. 1262 00:54:45,249 --> 00:54:46,750 [gentle music] 1263 00:54:50,687 --> 00:54:52,890 [upbeat music playing] 1264 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:54,892 [reporter] And the fabulous Dolly Parton, 1265 00:54:54,892 --> 00:54:56,693 nominated in the Best Song category 1266 00:54:56,693 --> 00:54:58,729 for her composition, "9 to 5." 1267 00:54:58,729 --> 00:55:00,931 ♪ Nine to five ♪ 1268 00:55:00,931 --> 00:55:03,100 [Dolly] I was nominated for an Oscar 1269 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,537 for Best Song, and that was a great honor. 1270 00:55:06,537 --> 00:55:10,974 I'd been hoping and praying that the song would be a hit and it was. 1271 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:13,777 -♪ ...want to move ahead... ♪ -And the music video 1272 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:13,777 was very popular. 1273 00:55:13,777 --> 00:55:15,546 -♪ ...to let me... ♪ 1274 00:55:13,777 --> 00:55:15,546 -[Karen] "9 to 5" became an 1275 00:55:13,777 --> 00:55:15,546 anthem 1276 00:55:15,546 --> 00:55:19,283 for the women's movement. So she captured the individual 1277 00:55:19,283 --> 00:55:23,086 trying to live her life to the fullest. 1278 00:55:24,054 --> 00:55:26,723 ♪ They let you dream just to watch you shatter ♪ 1279 00:55:26,723 --> 00:55:27,491 -♪ You're just a step... 1280 00:55:26,723 --> 00:55:27,491 -[Karen] "You're just a 1281 00:55:26,723 --> 00:55:27,491 step 1282 00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,726 on the bossman's ladder." 1283 00:55:29,726 --> 00:55:32,095 And then, it's a collective response 1284 00:55:32,095 --> 00:55:34,264 when we realize that we're in the same boat, 1285 00:55:34,264 --> 00:55:36,466 -that's where we get our 1286 00:55:34,264 --> 00:55:36,466 power. -[indistinct chatter] 1287 00:55:36,466 --> 00:55:39,269 Anyone who is turned off by a movie like this is possibly, 1288 00:55:39,269 --> 00:55:41,838 uh, a little hung up somewhere, 1289 00:55:41,838 --> 00:55:44,107 unless they could possibly not-- uh, like the movie. 1290 00:55:44,107 --> 00:55:45,342 But if you are talking about what I think you are, 1291 00:55:45,342 --> 00:55:47,477 which is a, a chauvinistic type 1292 00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,680 -of, uh, anti-ERA... -[woman] Mm-hmm. 1293 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,483 ...or anti-feminist, uh, uh, uh, philosophy, 1294 00:55:53,483 --> 00:55:56,853 if you are talking about that, then I think that, uh, 1295 00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:59,022 they may be a little hung up. 1296 00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:02,426 [Zoe] Just imagine all these secretaries 1297 00:56:02,426 --> 00:56:04,828 going to this movie together! 1298 00:56:04,828 --> 00:56:08,999 Maybe movies were $2 at the time. 1299 00:56:08,999 --> 00:56:12,936 And the secretaries, they are the ones moving the office. 1300 00:56:12,936 --> 00:56:15,272 They are the ones taking the calls. 1301 00:56:15,272 --> 00:56:18,342 They are the ones making Mr. Hart look smart... 1302 00:56:18,342 --> 00:56:21,011 -What? When? -...when, in fact, he's a fool. 1303 00:56:21,011 --> 00:56:23,680 -[sharp rustling] -Holy shit. 1304 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,283 Uh-- no, no! No, no problem. 1305 00:56:26,283 --> 00:56:28,318 [Zoe] So, that's 1306 00:56:26,283 --> 00:56:28,318 the breakout. 1307 00:56:28,318 --> 00:56:30,153 That's the wonder of this movie. 1308 00:56:30,153 --> 00:56:31,989 Holy shit. There he is. [chuckles nervously] 1309 00:56:31,989 --> 00:56:34,958 [shakily] It's really emotional. 1310 00:56:34,958 --> 00:56:37,327 -[indistinct shouting] 1311 00:56:34,958 --> 00:56:37,327 -The movie 9 to 5, 1312 00:56:37,327 --> 00:56:39,963 coming out when it did, 1313 00:56:39,963 --> 00:56:42,966 perfectly synced with the Equal Rights Amendment. 1314 00:56:43,667 --> 00:56:46,737 Many women now joining, who worked in offices, 1315 00:56:46,737 --> 00:56:49,406 were inspired by the film. 1316 00:56:50,374 --> 00:56:52,376 So, remember, men, if you come to work tomorrow 1317 00:56:52,376 --> 00:56:54,678 and your secretary refuses to do the filing, 1318 00:56:54,678 --> 00:56:56,346 and then go home and find that your wife 1319 00:56:56,346 --> 00:56:58,982 has refused to do the cooking, don't blame them. 1320 00:56:58,982 --> 00:57:02,019 Remember, you gave them the vote 50 years ago. 1321 00:57:02,019 --> 00:57:05,489 This is Mike Scott, male chauvinist. TV9, Eyewitness News. 1322 00:57:05,489 --> 00:57:07,190 [light dramatic music] 1323 00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:08,892 [Zoe] Equal Rights Amendment 1324 00:57:08,892 --> 00:57:13,363 was written in 1923 by Alice Paul. 1325 00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,065 -She was a Republican. 1326 00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,065 -[man] The Equal Rights 1327 00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,065 Amendment... 1328 00:57:15,065 --> 00:57:17,934 [Zoe] The ERA was an amendment to say, 1329 00:57:17,934 --> 00:57:21,071 "You cannot discriminate between men and women 1330 00:57:21,071 --> 00:57:24,608 when it comes to things that are ruled by the law." 1331 00:57:25,342 --> 00:57:27,110 It seemed obvious. 1332 00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:30,747 In almost every Congress since 1923, 1333 00:57:30,747 --> 00:57:32,949 there's been proposed a constitutional amendment 1334 00:57:32,949 --> 00:57:35,185 to guarantee equal rights for women. 1335 00:57:35,185 --> 00:57:37,587 Well, today, it finally won approval. 1336 00:57:37,587 --> 00:57:40,223 Proclaiming once and for all that women have 1337 00:57:40,223 --> 00:57:42,693 all the same rights as that other sex. 1338 00:57:42,693 --> 00:57:45,262 [Zoe] So, in 1971, 1339 00:57:45,262 --> 00:57:48,031 there were hearings in Congress. 1340 00:57:48,031 --> 00:57:51,301 In 1972, it went out to the states for ratification, 1341 00:57:51,301 --> 00:57:53,637 and the requirement was three fifths, 1342 00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:56,573 which would've been 38 states. 1343 00:57:56,573 --> 00:57:59,109 And they were given a deadline. 1344 00:57:59,109 --> 00:58:01,278 Virginia is the only unratified state 1345 00:58:01,278 --> 00:58:03,413 with elections this year. 1346 00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:05,415 When you vote next Tuesday, you are not voting 1347 00:58:05,415 --> 00:58:06,983 for yourselves only, 1348 00:58:06,983 --> 00:58:09,119 you are voting for all of us. 1349 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:10,654 -[crowd cheering and clapping] -The whole country 1350 00:58:10,654 --> 00:58:12,789 is looking to Virginia for a sign, 1351 00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:15,592 a sign that the ERA can win. 1352 00:58:15,592 --> 00:58:17,294 The Equal Rights Amendment will put women 1353 00:58:17,294 --> 00:58:19,763 where they've never been before. 1354 00:58:19,763 --> 00:58:21,798 In the constitution of the United States of America. 1355 00:58:21,798 --> 00:58:24,000 [clapping and cheering increase] 1356 00:58:26,136 --> 00:58:28,438 For more than four years, no state has ratified 1357 00:58:28,438 --> 00:58:30,674 The Equal Rights Amendment. Now, there's just a year left 1358 00:58:30,674 --> 00:58:32,843 to get the three more states 1359 00:58:32,843 --> 00:58:35,679 needed to reach the 38 required for ratification, 1360 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:36,613 or the amendment will die. 1361 00:58:36,613 --> 00:58:38,348 [dramatic music] 1362 00:58:38,348 --> 00:58:39,149 [woman] Are you still working 1363 00:58:39,149 --> 00:58:41,985 actively for ERA? 1364 00:58:41,985 --> 00:58:44,788 Are you making speeches on behalf of ERA? 1365 00:58:44,788 --> 00:58:46,790 Uh, I'm part of an organization in California 1366 00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:48,992 that works primarily on economic issues, 1367 00:58:48,992 --> 00:58:50,827 and that would certainly include the Equal Rights Amendment, 1368 00:58:50,827 --> 00:58:53,196 but we deal, uh, essentially 1369 00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:56,666 with, um, the problems of inflation and unemployment. 1370 00:58:56,666 --> 00:58:59,169 -[woman] Mm-hmm. -Economic issues. 1371 00:59:00,303 --> 00:59:03,273 We ask that you would give us your divine wisdom. 1372 00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:05,108 [reporter] Opposing both the 1373 00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:05,108 state and the federal 1374 00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:05,108 amendment 1375 00:59:05,108 --> 00:59:09,279 are women like these, members of STOP ERA. 1376 00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:12,182 According to them, the ERA is anti-family, 1377 00:59:12,182 --> 00:59:14,851 anti-God, a government intrusion 1378 00:59:14,851 --> 00:59:16,987 that will remove the legal protections 1379 00:59:16,987 --> 00:59:19,389 that have shaped women's lives for centuries. 1380 00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:21,858 [Sonia] This society has said to us, and said to me, 1381 00:59:21,858 --> 00:59:23,827 "Being a wife and a mother 1382 00:59:23,827 --> 00:59:26,730 is the most important thing you can do." 1383 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:28,698 And then, when we do it for 20 years, 1384 00:59:28,698 --> 00:59:30,133 and my husband walks out, 1385 00:59:30,133 --> 00:59:32,169 decides he's not gonna pay anything, 1386 00:59:32,169 --> 00:59:34,070 and certainly not enough to support the children, 1387 00:59:34,070 --> 00:59:36,039 what do I find out this society is gonna do for me? 1388 00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,642 Nothing. I have no hospitalization, 1389 00:59:38,642 --> 00:59:41,211 I have no pension, I have no social security, 1390 00:59:41,211 --> 00:59:44,347 I have nothing at all. 1391 00:59:44,347 --> 00:59:46,983 [Phyllis] Aren't we lucky that we don't have the Equal Rights Amendment? 1392 00:59:46,983 --> 00:59:49,753 Else that would have to apply to women in the draft 1393 00:59:49,753 --> 00:59:52,389 and in combat and in everything to do with the military 1394 00:59:52,389 --> 00:59:56,159 since the military is all a matter of federal law. 1395 00:59:56,159 --> 01:00:00,664 -I ask you to... -STOP ERA is a front for great corporations 1396 01:00:00,664 --> 01:00:03,200 who wou-- to whom it would be devastating 1397 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,570 if women had even equal pay for equal work in this country. 1398 01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:08,738 -The insurance company-- -But, but people from STOP ERA will say, 1399 01:00:08,738 --> 01:00:11,107 "But women are already protected." 1400 01:00:12,075 --> 01:00:13,910 -Well, uh-- -As far as equal pay is concerned. 1401 01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:16,079 Oh, that's just nonsense. 1402 01:00:16,713 --> 01:00:18,381 -[young Jane] I was recently down in Roanoke Rapids... -[man] Mm. 1403 01:00:18,381 --> 01:00:20,250 ...North Carolina, visiting some of the workers there, 1404 01:00:20,250 --> 01:00:22,419 and they can't afford to go to movies. 1405 01:00:22,419 --> 01:00:24,454 Not only 'cause the ticket prices are so high, 1406 01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:26,389 -but, you know, babysitters, transportation... -[man] Yes. 1407 01:00:26,389 --> 01:00:28,625 ...parking, all that. And those are the kind of people 1408 01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:32,295 that I'd also like to, to be working for. 1409 01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:35,365 That is true. Uh, there's still a percentage of people who don't get out 1410 01:00:35,365 --> 01:00:37,868 -to the movie theaters. -Yeah. Uh, I wanna go into television. 1411 01:00:37,868 --> 01:00:40,070 I guess my main motivation is to-- 1412 01:00:40,070 --> 01:00:42,973 is to try to reach large numbers of people. 1413 01:00:42,973 --> 01:00:45,308 -[alarm ringing] -["9 to 5" by Dolly Parton] 1414 01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:51,915 [Bruce] After 9 to 5 came 1415 01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:51,915 out and it was so successful, 1416 01:00:51,915 --> 01:00:56,753 20th Century Fox Television wanted a TV show spinoff of the movie, 1417 01:00:56,753 --> 01:01:00,123 and we were very open to that idea. 1418 01:01:00,123 --> 01:01:04,794 So, Jane and I became executive producers. 1419 01:01:04,794 --> 01:01:07,130 [young Jane] Because they're women, they're at the bottom of the ladder. 1420 01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:09,933 They're rarely promoted. Uh, they're discriminated against 1421 01:01:09,933 --> 01:01:11,835 in many different ways. And they've always been ignored 1422 01:01:11,835 --> 01:01:13,770 by the traditional labor movement. 1423 01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:15,138 "You know, these broads, you can't organize them." 1424 01:01:15,138 --> 01:01:17,574 Well, they're organizing themselves. 1425 01:01:17,574 --> 01:01:20,810 And hopefully, with the movie and with the television series, 1426 01:01:20,810 --> 01:01:24,314 -we'll give it a boost! -Oh, the nerve of that man, 1427 01:01:24,314 --> 01:01:26,483 -threatening me-- -[Carol] We got a call 1428 01:01:26,483 --> 01:01:28,485 from Jane Fonda and she said, 1429 01:01:28,485 --> 01:01:31,821 "You know, we would like someone from the organization 1430 01:01:31,821 --> 01:01:34,991 to come out and work with us on the TV series." 1431 01:01:34,991 --> 01:01:39,162 To kind of make sure that the TV show stayed true 1432 01:01:39,162 --> 01:01:42,432 to the principles that the film had been so great about. 1433 01:01:42,432 --> 01:01:43,433 Now, who here knows how to type? 1434 01:01:43,433 --> 01:01:45,635 [crowd laughing] 1435 01:01:49,506 --> 01:01:51,374 Uh, excuse me? 1436 01:01:51,374 --> 01:01:53,843 Could you direct me to Mr. Hart's office? 1437 01:01:54,344 --> 01:01:57,180 -Thank you. -[Ellen] As the TV show went on, 1438 01:01:57,180 --> 01:02:00,350 it strayed from the message of our organization. 1439 01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:03,320 A lot of times, I noticed that you would be siding with the boss. 1440 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,188 "Oh, poor boss has to put up 1441 01:02:05,188 --> 01:02:08,525 with such a silly creature as the secretary." 1442 01:02:08,525 --> 01:02:09,693 [indistinct singing] 1443 01:02:09,693 --> 01:02:10,827 The television executives, 1444 01:02:10,827 --> 01:02:11,995 who all had their opinions, 1445 01:02:11,995 --> 01:02:13,229 and there were several... 1446 01:02:13,229 --> 01:02:14,698 Just one of the boys. 1447 01:02:14,698 --> 01:02:16,166 ...and then you had these executives 1448 01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:18,234 from the network, much more meddling. 1449 01:02:18,234 --> 01:02:21,071 That was a shock to me. 1450 01:02:21,071 --> 01:02:24,407 -Call me stupid, I don't know where this goes. -[crowd laughing] 1451 01:02:24,407 --> 01:02:27,544 [Bruce] It became obvious that we were not capturing 1452 01:02:27,544 --> 01:02:30,000 the movie 9 to 5. 1453 01:02:27,544 --> 01:02:30,714 the flavor of 1454 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,714 the movie 9 to 5. 1455 01:02:30,714 --> 01:02:33,850 It was, uh, a-- 1456 01:02:34,217 --> 01:02:38,355 just a tremendous burden on me, psychologically. 1457 01:02:38,355 --> 01:02:40,357 Okay, party's over. Don't you girls have anything to do? 1458 01:02:40,357 --> 01:02:43,159 [Jane] I wasn't very involved... 1459 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:48,064 ...in that... part of it. 1460 01:02:48,064 --> 01:02:51,434 And I, I... I don't know if it would've worked more 1461 01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:54,037 if I had been, I don't know. 1462 01:02:54,037 --> 01:02:57,207 Jane and I decided to take our names off of the show, 1463 01:02:57,207 --> 01:03:00,744 because it no longer reflected our input. 1464 01:03:01,344 --> 01:03:02,612 [light suspenseful music] 1465 01:03:02,912 --> 01:03:07,550 So, we advance... [chuckles] and we go back, 1466 01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:09,786 and we advance, and we go back. 1467 01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:12,889 The deadline for the ERA 1468 01:03:12,889 --> 01:03:17,227 had been extended to June 30th, 1982. 1469 01:03:17,227 --> 01:03:18,862 [reporter 1] Local ERA supporters 1470 01:03:18,862 --> 01:03:21,031 say they will key their efforts in Illinois, 1471 01:03:21,031 --> 01:03:23,266 Florida, Mississippi, and North Carolina, 1472 01:03:23,266 --> 01:03:25,969 four states they feel can be persuaded 1473 01:03:25,969 --> 01:03:28,638 to ratify the amendment, or the proposal will die. 1474 01:03:28,638 --> 01:03:30,540 ERA will not pass in this century. 1475 01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:31,975 [indistinct shouting] ...ERA! 1476 01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:33,543 [Zoe] So, we backed it up 1477 01:03:33,543 --> 01:03:36,579 and we started fasting 40 days 1478 01:03:36,579 --> 01:03:38,648 before that deadline. 1479 01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,550 [reporter 2] Seven 1480 01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,550 women have fasted now 1481 01:03:40,550 --> 01:03:43,253 for 22 days. Women who chained themselves together, 1482 01:03:43,253 --> 01:03:45,422 blocking the Senate, were removed. 1483 01:03:45,422 --> 01:03:47,424 [reporter 3] One of the fasters, Sonia Johnson, 1484 01:03:47,424 --> 01:03:50,994 is now using a wheelchair, because she feels so weak. 1485 01:03:50,994 --> 01:03:54,164 But all of the women say there are no plans to stop now. 1486 01:03:54,164 --> 01:03:56,999 [Zoe] We fasted only on water. 1487 01:03:57,767 --> 01:04:00,336 And had the time of our lives. 1488 01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:05,408 ERA supporters conceded defeat this week, 1489 01:04:05,408 --> 01:04:08,945 falling three states short of the 38 needed to ratify. 1490 01:04:08,945 --> 01:04:11,114 Opponents to the amendment are celebrating tonight. 1491 01:04:11,114 --> 01:04:12,649 -[ethereal music] 1492 01:04:11,114 --> 01:04:12,649 -♪ ...America...♪ 1493 01:04:12,649 --> 01:04:15,085 [crowd clapping and cheering] 1494 01:04:15,085 --> 01:04:17,420 [Zoe] Of course, I was willing to die for the ERA. 1495 01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:19,789 Of course, I'm willing to die for equality. 1496 01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:21,257 Of course, that's what activists do. 1497 01:04:21,257 --> 01:04:24,527 [dramatic music] 1498 01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:29,966 Hey, we have a two o'clock campus tour you can take. 1499 01:04:29,966 --> 01:04:32,035 [Karen] Ultimately, at the end of the 1980s, 1500 01:04:32,035 --> 01:04:34,337 corporate America decided, "Actually, 1501 01:04:34,337 --> 01:04:37,140 they're gonna have to let women in on the game," 1502 01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:40,276 and began to let women in as managers 1503 01:04:40,276 --> 01:04:42,779 and supervisors and professionals 1504 01:04:42,779 --> 01:04:44,347 in numbers that we've never seen before. 1505 01:04:44,347 --> 01:04:47,050 [indistinct chatter] 1506 01:04:51,788 --> 01:04:53,289 [dramatic music] 1507 01:04:55,291 --> 01:04:57,827 [reporter 1] Shocking charges of sexual harassment. 1508 01:04:57,827 --> 01:05:00,530 The judge pleads "not guilty." 1509 01:05:00,530 --> 01:05:04,000 Someone's lying under oath, under the dome. 1510 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,337 I have not said or done the things 1511 01:05:07,337 --> 01:05:09,973 that Anita Hill has alleged. 1512 01:05:09,973 --> 01:05:11,641 After a brief discussion of work, 1513 01:05:11,641 --> 01:05:13,843 he would turn the conversation 1514 01:05:13,843 --> 01:05:17,147 to a discussion of sexual matters. 1515 01:05:17,147 --> 01:05:20,750 His conversations were very vivid. 1516 01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:25,355 [Karen] Suddenly, sexual harassment emerged as a popular issue. 1517 01:05:25,355 --> 01:05:27,323 These kinds of experiences 1518 01:05:27,323 --> 01:05:29,993 were taking place across the country, 1519 01:05:29,993 --> 01:05:32,395 and so, women were beginning to realize 1520 01:05:32,395 --> 01:05:36,533 that it's about power in the workplace, 1521 01:05:36,533 --> 01:05:41,938 then it was kind of just part of this whole morass of indignities 1522 01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:43,540 that women were just beginning to sort through. 1523 01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:46,009 [crowd clapping and cheering] 1524 01:05:46,009 --> 01:05:48,111 [reporter 2] A year since the Hill Thomas hearings, 1525 01:05:48,111 --> 01:05:49,879 women candidates running for the Senate this year 1526 01:05:49,879 --> 01:05:52,282 in unprecedented numbers. 1527 01:05:52,282 --> 01:05:54,384 [reporter 3] Carol Moseley 1528 01:05:52,282 --> 01:05:54,384 Braun added to gains 1529 01:05:54,384 --> 01:05:56,686 made in what's being called, "The Year of the Woman." 1530 01:05:56,686 --> 01:05:58,354 [woman] Walking up those steps 1531 01:05:58,354 --> 01:06:00,590 to the United States Senate, 1532 01:06:00,590 --> 01:06:03,059 knocking on the door, and it opens, 1533 01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:06,896 and we all come inside, all of us, together! 1534 01:06:06,896 --> 01:06:09,432 [Fatima] And it was Anita Hill. 1535 01:06:09,432 --> 01:06:14,404 And the outrage that drove more women to Congress. 1536 01:06:14,404 --> 01:06:17,907 And now, they're fighting for change at a policy level, 1537 01:06:17,907 --> 01:06:21,277 including equal pay and fair wages. 1538 01:06:21,277 --> 01:06:23,279 [indistinct chatter] 1539 01:06:24,881 --> 01:06:28,318 [Lilly] I went to work February 5th, 1979, 1540 01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:30,153 for Goodyear Tire & Rubber in Gadsden, Alabama. 1541 01:06:32,255 --> 01:06:36,659 It was the same year the 9 to 5 movie was being made. 1542 01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,761 And later on, I became my area manager, 1543 01:06:38,761 --> 01:06:41,264 and some of the men resented me. 1544 01:06:42,232 --> 01:06:46,803 They said, um, "We've never taken orders from a woman." 1545 01:06:46,803 --> 01:06:50,106 They made my job really difficult 1546 01:06:50,106 --> 01:06:52,575 and there were several times I was concerned for my life. 1547 01:06:52,575 --> 01:06:55,011 [light ominous music] 1548 01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:58,848 But I'd think back about the movie. 1549 01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:02,085 Well, I say we hire a couple of wranglers to go upstairs and beat the shit out of him. 1550 01:07:02,085 --> 01:07:06,189 [Lilly] And Jane and Dolly and Lily encouraged me. 1551 01:07:06,189 --> 01:07:10,326 In the 19 years that I worked at Goodyear as a supervisor, 1552 01:07:10,326 --> 01:07:12,929 no one ever discussed their pay. 1553 01:07:12,929 --> 01:07:15,765 I started suspecting 1554 01:07:15,765 --> 01:07:18,868 I was not getting what the men were getting. 1555 01:07:18,868 --> 01:07:22,438 We four supervisors had the exact same job, 1556 01:07:22,438 --> 01:07:24,841 just a different shift. 1557 01:07:24,841 --> 01:07:28,278 And their pay was almost $6000 a month, 1558 01:07:28,278 --> 01:07:30,280 and that's base pay, 1559 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,616 and mine was just a little over three. 1560 01:07:33,616 --> 01:07:37,353 [Zoe] Imagine, after working 20 years, 1561 01:07:37,353 --> 01:07:42,859 that she found out that this man is doing the same job as she did, 1562 01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,962 was getting paid two times more, 1563 01:07:45,962 --> 01:07:47,664 which affected his social security, 1564 01:07:47,664 --> 01:07:50,667 which affected his, his pension, 1565 01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:54,237 which affected his ability to retire. 1566 01:07:54,237 --> 01:07:57,140 [Lilly] My daughter and son were still going to college, 1567 01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:00,810 and I had a mortgage to pay, and I had to pay my bills. 1568 01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,980 [reporter 1] Ledbetter sued, but the US Supreme Court threw 1569 01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,980 out her case, 1570 01:08:03,980 --> 01:08:05,982 saying she filed her lawsuit too late. 1571 01:08:05,982 --> 01:08:07,917 [Lilly] Those five justices, 1572 01:08:07,917 --> 01:08:10,353 they didn't only rule against Lilly Ledbetter, 1573 01:08:10,353 --> 01:08:15,024 they ruled against every family across this nation. 1574 01:08:15,024 --> 01:08:18,528 [Fatima] So, in 2009, we saw a huge change happen. 1575 01:08:18,528 --> 01:08:23,232 It was a mix of law and policy change that was happening, 1576 01:08:23,232 --> 01:08:26,869 because in 2007, when the Supreme Court got it wrong, 1577 01:08:26,869 --> 01:08:28,871 Justice Ginsburg wrote a powerful dissent 1578 01:08:28,871 --> 01:08:31,407 that eventually changed the law. 1579 01:08:31,407 --> 01:08:33,910 First of all, it is fitting 1580 01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:38,881 that the very first bill that I sign... 1581 01:08:38,881 --> 01:08:42,118 ...the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act. 1582 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:43,553 [crowd clapping and cheering] 1583 01:08:43,553 --> 01:08:45,355 Equal pay is by no means 1584 01:08:45,355 --> 01:08:47,290 just a women's issue. 1585 01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:49,525 It's a family issue. 1586 01:08:50,426 --> 01:08:52,895 [reporter 2] But Ledbetter 1587 01:08:50,426 --> 01:08:52,895 herself will never see a 1588 01:08:50,426 --> 01:08:52,895 dime 1589 01:08:52,895 --> 01:08:56,966 of the $200,000 in lost salary she claims. 1590 01:08:56,966 --> 01:08:59,035 [woman] You lost your case, but what did you win? 1591 01:08:59,035 --> 01:09:02,405 Something that money could never buy. 1592 01:09:02,405 --> 01:09:06,142 ♪ Workin' nine to five what a way to make a livin' ♪ 1593 01:09:06,142 --> 01:09:09,379 ♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ 1594 01:09:09,379 --> 01:09:13,049 [Dolly] I've always been saying, "I don't chew my tobacco but once," 1595 01:09:13,049 --> 01:09:16,419 or some corny thing like that. Meaning, "I don't like to go back and do something again." 1596 01:09:16,419 --> 01:09:18,221 [crowd singing and clapping] 1597 01:09:20,590 --> 01:09:23,259 You know that better than me! 1598 01:09:23,259 --> 01:09:25,161 [Bob] There's a big trend in the theater business, 1599 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:28,064 taking successful movies and turning them into musicals. 1600 01:09:28,064 --> 01:09:32,335 ♪ Nine to five what a way to make a livin'... ♪ 1601 01:09:32,335 --> 01:09:35,304 The movie felt so dated that it was kind of like, 1602 01:09:35,304 --> 01:09:39,509 "Why are we doing a revival of this very dated movie?" 1603 01:09:39,509 --> 01:09:42,078 And then, realized that, 1604 01:09:42,078 --> 01:09:43,980 "We're not so far off from this movie, 1605 01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:47,917 these things are still going on." 1606 01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:50,086 [Joe] I was thinking of the message of the film and the musical. 1607 01:09:50,086 --> 01:09:53,589 We were looking at it as a time 1608 01:09:53,589 --> 01:09:55,925 in our history that we were past. 1609 01:09:55,925 --> 01:09:58,628 -In my memo-- -Did you hear what I said? Fire the bitch. 1610 01:09:58,628 --> 01:10:00,163 And that's just not the case. 1611 01:10:00,163 --> 01:10:03,866 So, you need to keep telling people, 1612 01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:08,938 "This is where we've come from. This is where we've been. And this is where we're at." 1613 01:10:08,938 --> 01:10:11,441 [woman] Are you surprised that it's had this kind of-- you know, 1614 01:10:11,441 --> 01:10:13,609 we're talking about 29 years, this kind of response from all generations. 1615 01:10:13,609 --> 01:10:15,945 -Well, I'm not-- I'm not really surprised. No-- -No, no. 1616 01:10:15,945 --> 01:10:19,882 It's iconic. And partly, it's because the issues, 1617 01:10:19,882 --> 01:10:23,453 the things that it speaks to are universal and still very much alive. 1618 01:10:23,453 --> 01:10:26,522 It's women emancipation. 1619 01:10:26,522 --> 01:10:29,792 Secondly, it's about women wanting to kill their boss. 1620 01:10:29,792 --> 01:10:30,860 And third of all, I know that everybody 1621 01:10:30,860 --> 01:10:32,962 in my company wants to kill me, 1622 01:10:32,962 --> 01:10:34,797 and they bought multiple tickets. 1623 01:10:34,797 --> 01:10:36,799 I think if this, this movie could survive, 1624 01:10:36,799 --> 01:10:38,901 this show could survive on just my company. 1625 01:10:38,901 --> 01:10:40,970 [tense music playing] 1626 01:10:55,318 --> 01:10:57,420 [woman] Later, Harvey Weinstein was accused 1627 01:10:57,420 --> 01:10:59,989 by several women of sexual harassment, 1628 01:10:59,989 --> 01:11:02,158 energizing the MeToo movement, 1629 01:11:02,158 --> 01:11:04,494 which quickly spread around the world. 1630 01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:07,930 [indistinct shouting] 1631 01:11:11,501 --> 01:11:14,203 [women shouting] No means no! No means no! 1632 01:11:14,203 --> 01:11:19,175 When MeToo went viral, it was if the earth shook. 1633 01:11:19,175 --> 01:11:22,345 -[crowd] MeToo. MeToo-- -[woman] MeToo! 1634 01:11:22,345 --> 01:11:23,446 [women shouting] TimesUp! 1635 01:11:23,446 --> 01:11:25,748 [women chanting in French] 1636 01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:32,188 [chanting in Spanish] 1637 01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,296 [loud clanking and banging] 1638 01:11:42,865 --> 01:11:44,934 [women chanting] ♪ Stop the violence! Stop the rape! ♪ 1639 01:11:44,934 --> 01:11:47,203 ♪ Rise up for the women of the world! ♪ 1640 01:11:47,203 --> 01:11:49,038 ♪ For the women of the world rise up! ♪ 1641 01:11:49,038 --> 01:11:51,240 [Tarana] What we represent by gathering 1642 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,076 and marching in the streets is a living breathing reminder 1643 01:11:54,076 --> 01:11:57,113 that we are human beings, not hashtags! 1644 01:11:57,113 --> 01:11:58,915 -[crowd cheering and clapping] -[Ellen] Some people might be surprised 1645 01:11:58,915 --> 01:12:02,084 by MeToo, TimesUp, 1646 01:12:02,084 --> 01:12:04,220 and the whole issue of sexual harassment. 1647 01:12:04,220 --> 01:12:06,923 These are new slogans, but they're not new issues. 1648 01:12:06,923 --> 01:12:09,892 [Jane] Now, women who speak up about assault 1649 01:12:09,892 --> 01:12:14,263 and sexual harassment are taken more seriously. 1650 01:12:14,263 --> 01:12:17,600 Um, I think people are realizing that it's epidemic. 1651 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,102 Of course, it's rampant. 1652 01:12:20,102 --> 01:12:22,238 It's very-- but the men are acculturated 1653 01:12:22,238 --> 01:12:24,941 by whatever forces are near them. 1654 01:12:24,941 --> 01:12:26,776 Their fathers, their brothers, their uncles, 1655 01:12:26,776 --> 01:12:28,945 kids at school, just their own natural, 1656 01:12:28,945 --> 01:12:32,448 uh, a-- absorbing the-- the, uh, 1657 01:12:32,448 --> 01:12:35,651 whatever the entertainment puts out-- Cartoons! 1658 01:12:35,651 --> 01:12:38,821 Now, I'm gonna grab me some sweet. 1659 01:12:38,821 --> 01:12:41,958 No, Mr. Simpson, that's sexual harassment! 1660 01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:44,961 If you keep it up, I'll yell so loud, the whole country will hear! 1661 01:12:44,961 --> 01:12:48,331 [laughing] With the man in the White House... [laughs] 1662 01:12:48,331 --> 01:12:50,433 ...not likely. [laughs] 1663 01:12:52,435 --> 01:12:55,271 I hope it's not a real cultural shift, 1664 01:12:55,271 --> 01:12:58,941 that men feel like they don't know how to behave around women. 1665 01:12:58,941 --> 01:13:02,144 You know, it's not hard. Like, just don't be a jerk. 1666 01:13:02,144 --> 01:13:04,280 -Violet-- -[Amaya] Keep your hands to yourself. 1667 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,349 No one else is your property. 1668 01:13:06,349 --> 01:13:09,118 -Damn pretty too, if I might add. -Thank you, sir. 1669 01:13:09,118 --> 01:13:10,386 You should see some of the crones that have been 1670 01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:12,154 coming through here lately, real pathetic. 1671 01:13:12,154 --> 01:13:14,290 [Amaya] Like the 1672 01:13:12,154 --> 01:13:14,290 boss in 9 to 5, 1673 01:13:14,290 --> 01:13:17,460 nobody thinks your inappropriate jokes are funny. 1674 01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:21,664 I mean, a lot of it is just being an adult, right? [laughs] 1675 01:13:21,664 --> 01:13:24,233 [Dolly] When the MeToo movement started, I think it really helped a lot. 1676 01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:26,502 It's given us a really good opportunity 1677 01:13:26,502 --> 01:13:29,138 to make more, uh, corrections 1678 01:13:29,138 --> 01:13:32,408 and to just do more good things for, for women especially, 1679 01:13:32,408 --> 01:13:34,810 'cause really, it's not a matter of politics, 1680 01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:37,380 it's just downright fairness. 1681 01:13:37,380 --> 01:13:38,914 [Vanessa] It doesn't matter what industry you're in, 1682 01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:41,817 it doesn't matter what department you work for, 1683 01:13:41,817 --> 01:13:43,819 I know that we've held workshops in the past 1684 01:13:43,819 --> 01:13:46,355 where assistants find out that peers of theirs 1685 01:13:46,355 --> 01:13:49,892 are actually making double or triple the money. 1686 01:13:49,892 --> 01:13:53,496 Here he is, with nowhere near the years of experience, 1687 01:13:53,496 --> 01:13:57,099 no degree, and you're gonna offer him $12,000 more. 1688 01:13:58,034 --> 01:14:00,336 An employee got upset because we didn't get a bonus. 1689 01:14:00,336 --> 01:14:02,271 And so, he literally said everybody's salary 1690 01:14:02,271 --> 01:14:05,041 in front of everybody. And I found out, 1691 01:14:05,041 --> 01:14:07,209 not only was I the lowest paid person, 1692 01:14:07,209 --> 01:14:11,080 but I was making almost $17,000 less 1693 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,349 than the lowest paid person on my team, 1694 01:14:13,349 --> 01:14:16,052 with the highest stats, 1695 01:14:16,052 --> 01:14:19,021 the highest customer retention, all of that. 1696 01:14:19,588 --> 01:14:21,390 Humanity still has a long way to go 1697 01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:23,059 in the fight for gender equality. 1698 01:14:23,059 --> 01:14:24,527 This is according to a new report 1699 01:14:24,527 --> 01:14:26,429 from the World Economic Forum. 1700 01:14:26,429 --> 01:14:29,965 It will take more than 200 years 1701 01:14:29,965 --> 01:14:33,936 to close the gender pay gap at our current pays worldwide. 1702 01:14:34,370 --> 01:14:38,207 [Miranda] In America, Black women are 61 cents to the dollar 1703 01:14:38,207 --> 01:14:40,976 in comparison to white male and their counterparts. 1704 01:14:40,976 --> 01:14:44,380 So, we're still far behind on that, on that pay grade. 1705 01:14:44,380 --> 01:14:47,717 [Yanira] For Latinas, it's 54 cents 1706 01:14:47,717 --> 01:14:50,319 compared to a non-Hispanic white man. 1707 01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:52,955 You might be a PhD, 1708 01:14:52,955 --> 01:14:55,324 and you will make less as a Latina, 1709 01:14:56,058 --> 01:14:59,895 not only compared to white men, but also white women. 1710 01:15:00,596 --> 01:15:03,232 [Tara] In the 1711 01:15:00,596 --> 01:15:03,232 United States today, 1712 01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:06,102 never mind when 9 to 5 1713 01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:06,102 was made, if someone like 1714 01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:06,102 Violet, 1715 01:15:06,102 --> 01:15:08,904 a single mother, was working full-time 1716 01:15:08,904 --> 01:15:11,006 at the Federal minimum wage, 1717 01:15:11,006 --> 01:15:14,744 which it's still $7.25 an hour... 1718 01:15:16,078 --> 01:15:20,149 Violet News-- Oh, come on kids! No-- come on, no fighting! 1719 01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:23,252 ...she would earn about $14,500 a year. 1720 01:15:25,488 --> 01:15:28,958 And she would be expected to, um, pull up her bootstraps 1721 01:15:28,958 --> 01:15:32,828 and somehow feed four children and pay for a car 1722 01:15:32,828 --> 01:15:35,831 and pay for clothes to go to work. 1723 01:15:35,831 --> 01:15:38,601 Back then, getting a promotion was a pipe dream. 1724 01:15:38,601 --> 01:15:40,970 We've got to do something. He just can't treat people like that. 1725 01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:44,106 [scoffs] "Do." What's to do? Quit? 1726 01:15:44,106 --> 01:15:47,543 -Well, I can't quit. -It's the same all over, anyway. 1727 01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:50,880 Well, look, couldn't we just all get together and, and complain? 1728 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,215 -[laughs] Complain to who? -Let's face it, 1729 01:15:53,215 --> 01:15:56,986 we're in a pink-collar ghetto. Let's have another drink. 1730 01:15:56,986 --> 01:15:59,288 [Jane] It's worse today than it was when we made 9 to 5, 1731 01:15:59,288 --> 01:16:01,991 because now, most of those women 1732 01:16:01,991 --> 01:16:06,796 would be hired by a contracting company and subcontracted. 1733 01:16:06,796 --> 01:16:10,032 They may never see the boss. 1734 01:16:10,032 --> 01:16:13,569 Where do you go to complain when you're part of the gig economy? 1735 01:16:13,569 --> 01:16:15,638 Never mind having union jobs. 1736 01:16:15,638 --> 01:16:17,039 [light melancholic music] 1737 01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:19,375 What the movie showed was 1738 01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:21,177 there was a systemic issue. 1739 01:16:21,177 --> 01:16:23,145 Did you get my memo? 1740 01:16:23,145 --> 01:16:25,381 I did, Roz. I tore right through it. 1741 01:16:25,381 --> 01:16:27,917 Good! You know, we must, uh, clamp down hard 1742 01:16:27,917 --> 01:16:31,320 on any signs of unionization. 1743 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,057 [Jane] The whole notion of promotions and benefits 1744 01:16:35,057 --> 01:16:39,762 and being respected for your work is a thing of the past. 1745 01:16:41,497 --> 01:16:42,932 We see that 9 to 5 1746 01:16:41,497 --> 01:16:42,932 was ahead of the game 1747 01:16:42,932 --> 01:16:45,434 with the idea of flexible hours, 1748 01:16:45,434 --> 01:16:47,169 trying to work part-time 1749 01:16:47,169 --> 01:16:49,371 or trying to work around their mothering. 1750 01:16:49,371 --> 01:16:52,074 What the hell is going on? Who authorized all this? 1751 01:16:52,074 --> 01:16:55,744 You did, Mr. Hart. It's, uh, your signature. 1752 01:16:55,744 --> 01:16:58,848 [Arianna] Once they have children and leave the workplace, 1753 01:16:58,848 --> 01:17:01,684 three quarters of women return, 1754 01:17:01,684 --> 01:17:05,421 but only 40% are returning full-time. 1755 01:17:05,421 --> 01:17:10,559 The primary responsibility going to women, largely. 1756 01:17:10,559 --> 01:17:13,262 If a culture is fueled by burnout, 1757 01:17:13,262 --> 01:17:17,399 women are going to pay a disproportionate price. 1758 01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:19,068 [reporter 1] The current health crisis is impacting 1759 01:17:19,068 --> 01:17:21,871 the working women more than men, 1760 01:17:21,871 --> 01:17:23,739 and there are a number of reasons why. 1761 01:17:23,739 --> 01:17:25,107 During this pandemic, many parents, 1762 01:17:25,107 --> 01:17:27,409 especially moms, have been working 1763 01:17:27,409 --> 01:17:30,546 and helping their kids with schoolwork at home. 1764 01:17:30,546 --> 01:17:32,882 One in three mothers may be forced to scale back 1765 01:17:32,882 --> 01:17:35,985 or opt out of the workforce. 1766 01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:39,054 [Karen] So, childcare, 1767 01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:39,054 maternity leave, 1768 01:17:39,054 --> 01:17:41,924 health insurance, paid sick time, 1769 01:17:41,924 --> 01:17:44,960 all of those things, 1770 01:17:41,924 --> 01:17:44,960 you saw in 9 to 5. 1771 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,896 So, you pulled it off, Frank, huh? 1772 01:17:46,896 --> 01:17:48,898 Well, I, I like to think we did, anyway. 1773 01:17:48,898 --> 01:17:50,399 -[laughter] -Good. Like the day-care center. 1774 01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:51,901 Center-- day-care center? 1775 01:17:51,901 --> 01:17:53,435 [Karen] All of those things, 1776 01:17:53,435 --> 01:17:55,304 women are still fighting for. 1777 01:17:55,304 --> 01:17:58,407 And we have to be clear-eyed about that. 1778 01:17:58,407 --> 01:18:00,743 Those issues, which were at the center 1779 01:18:00,743 --> 01:18:03,178 of the 9 to 5 movie, 1780 01:18:00,743 --> 01:18:03,178 are not resolved. 1781 01:18:03,178 --> 01:18:04,780 [Violet] We transformed, but the cost was minimal. 1782 01:18:04,780 --> 01:18:06,849 It's cut down on absenteeism 1783 01:18:06,849 --> 01:18:08,684 and we had a wonderful time doing it. 1784 01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:11,020 Well, Frank, I gotta give you credit. 1785 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,023 -You really pulled it off here. -[chuckles] 1786 01:18:14,023 --> 01:18:16,458 And, uh, that equal pay thing, though, that's, uh, that's got to go. Hmm? 1787 01:18:16,458 --> 01:18:18,427 -Oh, yes. -Oh, yeah, it's all right as an incentive, 1788 01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:20,763 but, uh, we don't need to keep on priming the pump. 1789 01:18:20,763 --> 01:18:23,432 We need to be talking about money. 1790 01:18:23,432 --> 01:18:25,601 We need to say it out loud. 1791 01:18:25,601 --> 01:18:28,203 And spreading the message of women knowing their worth 1792 01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:30,639 and asking for what they're worth. 1793 01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:34,777 [crowd cheering, clapping, and chanting] ...pay! Equal pay! 1794 01:18:34,777 --> 01:18:37,613 How long have I been chanting "equal pay"? 1795 01:18:37,613 --> 01:18:39,348 [reporter 2] They rolled down Broadway, down the stretch 1796 01:18:39,348 --> 01:18:41,617 known as the Canyon of Heroes, 1797 01:18:41,617 --> 01:18:44,353 brandishing what they'd been sent to France to retrieve, 1798 01:18:44,353 --> 01:18:46,622 the World Cup Trophy. 1799 01:18:46,622 --> 01:18:49,325 [all shouting] Equal pay! Equal pay! 1800 01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:51,527 [Zoe] I am 1801 01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:51,527 hoping that it is 1802 01:18:51,527 --> 01:18:55,965 through those ground-breaking women in sports, 1803 01:18:55,965 --> 01:19:00,202 in the arts, in politics and activism... 1804 01:19:00,202 --> 01:19:03,906 Marching to the front lines as we often do. 1805 01:19:03,906 --> 01:19:06,542 ...in all the visible places, 1806 01:19:06,542 --> 01:19:10,212 we're gonna finally have equality for women 1807 01:19:10,212 --> 01:19:13,649 in the Constitution of the United States. 1808 01:19:15,317 --> 01:19:18,687 [Fatima] In order to ratify any amendment, 1809 01:19:18,687 --> 01:19:20,889 we not only need Congress to act, 1810 01:19:20,889 --> 01:19:23,926 you also need states to act. 1811 01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:26,261 [Lily] I came to Virginia 1812 01:19:26,261 --> 01:19:28,263 because your elections next Tuesday 1813 01:19:28,263 --> 01:19:30,866 transcend the borders of your state. 1814 01:19:30,866 --> 01:19:32,668 [crowd clapping and cheering] 1815 01:19:32,668 --> 01:19:34,169 [gentle music] 1816 01:19:35,838 --> 01:19:38,841 [Fatima] And you need 38 states. 1817 01:19:38,841 --> 01:19:42,778 Over the years, we have gotten to 37. 1818 01:19:42,778 --> 01:19:45,447 We are one state away. 1819 01:19:45,447 --> 01:19:49,084 [Patricia] Did the Civil Rights Act eliminate prejudice? 1820 01:19:49,084 --> 01:19:52,254 No, of course not. And has it made an equal playing field? No. 1821 01:19:52,254 --> 01:19:55,524 But at least it gives you some laws that help protect you. 1822 01:19:55,524 --> 01:19:59,428 ♪ ...dreams have wings ♪ 1823 01:19:59,428 --> 01:20:02,297 [Zoe] If you ask eight graders across the country, 1824 01:20:02,297 --> 01:20:05,801 "Are you in the constitution?" They would all say, "Yes." 1825 01:20:05,801 --> 01:20:07,803 And then, I have to tell the girls, 1826 01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:10,572 "I have some very bad news for you. 1827 01:20:10,572 --> 01:20:12,908 -No, you're not." -♪ ...yeah, dreams have... ♪ 1828 01:20:12,908 --> 01:20:15,711 All those in favor say, "Aye." 1829 01:20:15,711 --> 01:20:17,246 [crowd] Aye. 1830 01:20:17,246 --> 01:20:18,647 [cheering and clapping] 1831 01:20:23,585 --> 01:20:25,087 [gentle music] 1832 01:20:37,132 --> 01:20:40,569 9 to 5 changed my life, 1833 01:20:37,132 --> 01:20:40,569 and I can say beyond a doubt 1834 01:20:40,569 --> 01:20:44,006 that it changed the office, bosses, 1835 01:20:44,006 --> 01:20:47,309 and the whole atmosphere of office work. 1836 01:20:47,309 --> 01:20:48,944 [Bruce] I'm under no illusion that any single film 1837 01:20:48,944 --> 01:20:50,612 can change the culture. 1838 01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:52,614 There are just so many factors 1839 01:20:52,614 --> 01:20:55,417 that effect change. 1840 01:20:55,417 --> 01:20:59,755 As filmmakers, we just try to do our part. 1841 01:20:59,755 --> 01:21:04,193 I recognized the value of being a woman, 1842 01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:07,796 because it was lauded in the film. 1843 01:21:07,796 --> 01:21:11,100 [Amaya] Regardless of age, regardless of race, 1844 01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:14,136 regardless of orientation, 1845 01:21:14,136 --> 01:21:16,004 having solidarity in the women's movement 1846 01:21:16,004 --> 01:21:18,874 is really what's gonna push us forward. 1847 01:21:18,874 --> 01:21:22,111 [Dame Jenni] It's young women respecting older women 1848 01:21:22,111 --> 01:21:23,679 and older women giving them a leg up. 1849 01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:26,548 [music continues] 1850 01:21:26,548 --> 01:21:29,384 [Yanira] I can tell you that it's gonna be a fight, 1851 01:21:29,384 --> 01:21:31,987 but I can also tell you that it's gonna be a good fight, 1852 01:21:31,987 --> 01:21:33,655 because it's gonna be with your sisters, 1853 01:21:33,655 --> 01:21:36,125 with people who understand you and want the same goals. 1854 01:21:36,125 --> 01:21:39,795 And ultimately, you'll get there. 1855 01:21:40,395 --> 01:21:43,632 [Karen] Unless we're able to truly understand what we're up against 1856 01:21:43,632 --> 01:21:46,535 and build the power we need to win against that, 1857 01:21:46,535 --> 01:21:49,304 then we'll be engaged in 40 1858 01:21:49,304 --> 01:21:51,206 and 50-year struggles like we are today. 1859 01:21:51,206 --> 01:21:53,509 [dramatic music] 1860 01:21:53,509 --> 01:21:55,544 And the more women we get into positions of power, 1861 01:21:55,544 --> 01:21:58,147 the more that that will dissipate. 1862 01:21:58,147 --> 01:22:00,716 While I may be the first woman in this office, 1863 01:22:00,716 --> 01:22:02,518 I will not be the last. 1864 01:22:02,518 --> 01:22:06,255 [crowd cheering and clapping] 1865 01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:13,095 Because every little girl watching tonight 1866 01:22:13,095 --> 01:22:17,232 sees that this is a country of possibilities. 1867 01:22:18,567 --> 01:22:21,503 And to the children of our country, 1868 01:22:21,503 --> 01:22:22,704 regardless of your gender, 1869 01:22:24,273 --> 01:22:26,842 our country has sent you a clear message. 1870 01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:30,412 Dream with ambition. 1871 01:22:30,412 --> 01:22:31,847 [cheering continues] 1872 01:22:33,282 --> 01:22:35,217 There's something very exciting and dynamic 1873 01:22:35,217 --> 01:22:37,352 in this moment, which is why now, 1874 01:22:37,352 --> 01:22:39,188 making change in the world 1875 01:22:39,188 --> 01:22:42,357 has to reach down the generational line. 1876 01:22:42,357 --> 01:22:45,394 It's so important that people who've been, you know, 1877 01:22:45,394 --> 01:22:48,864 suffering because of injustice 1878 01:22:48,864 --> 01:22:51,900 realize that they're seen. 1879 01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:53,302 [Lily] As women, we need to still fight. 1880 01:22:53,302 --> 01:22:55,137 ...the earth! Rights for the trees! 1881 01:22:55,137 --> 01:22:57,039 We've got so much more to do. 1882 01:22:57,039 --> 01:23:01,143 How can anybody ever do enough? 1883 01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:02,811 No matter what you're doing, is never gonna be enough. 1884 01:23:02,811 --> 01:23:05,080 My Lord, it's 40 years now. 1885 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,982 Those fairy godmothers accomplished a lot, 1886 01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:09,051 but we've got a long way to go. 1887 01:23:09,051 --> 01:23:12,054 Just like DoraLee and Violet and Judy in the film. 1888 01:23:12,054 --> 01:23:14,823 -[cork pops] -[laughter] 1889 01:23:14,823 --> 01:23:17,159 And Tinsworthy loved what we did! 1890 01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:19,094 Yeah, everything, except that part about the money. 1891 01:23:19,094 --> 01:23:20,963 What are we gonna do about that? 1892 01:23:20,963 --> 01:23:22,898 Hey, we've come this far, haven't we? 1893 01:23:22,898 --> 01:23:24,666 This is just the beginning. 1894 01:23:24,666 --> 01:23:26,802 And here's to the beginning! 1895 01:23:26,802 --> 01:23:27,936 -[laughs] -I'll drink to that. 1896 01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:29,938 -To the beginning. -Yay. 1897 01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:31,740 ["9 to 5 (FROM THE STILL WORKING 9 TO 5 DOCUMENTARY)" 1898 01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:32,808 by Kelly Clarkson & Dolly Parton] 1899 01:23:40,349 --> 01:23:41,316 ♪ Nine to five ♪ 1900 01:23:45,787 --> 01:23:48,257 ♪ Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen ♪ 1901 01:23:48,257 --> 01:23:50,759 ♪ Pour myself a cup of ambition ♪ 1902 01:23:50,759 --> 01:23:52,761 ♪ And yawn and stretch and try to come to life ♪ 1903 01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:58,533 ♪ Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumpin' ♪ 1904 01:23:58,533 --> 01:24:00,636 ♪ Out on the street the traffic is jumpin' ♪ 1905 01:24:00,636 --> 01:24:04,773 ♪ With folks like me on the job from nine to five ♪ 1906 01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,943 -♪ Mm, yeah, nine to five 1907 01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,943 -♪ Workin' nine to five 1908 01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,943 1909 01:24:07,943 --> 01:24:10,712 ♪ What a way to make a livin' ♪ 1910 01:24:10,712 --> 01:24:13,048 -♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ -♪ Gettin' by ♪ 1911 01:24:13,048 --> 01:24:16,451 ♪ It's all takin' and no givin' ♪ 1912 01:24:16,451 --> 01:24:18,153 -♪ They just use your mind 1913 01:24:16,451 --> 01:24:18,153 -♪ They just use your 1914 01:24:16,451 --> 01:24:18,153 mind ♪ 1915 01:24:18,153 --> 01:24:21,056 ♪ And they never give you credit ♪ 1916 01:24:21,056 --> 01:24:25,460 ♪ It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it ♪ 1917 01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:28,397 -♪ If you let it, nine to five ♪ -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ 1918 01:24:28,397 --> 01:24:31,733 ♪ For service and devotion ♪ 1919 01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,468 -♪ You would think that I 1920 01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,468 -♪ You would think that 1921 01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,468 I ♪ 1922 01:24:33,468 --> 01:24:36,338 ♪ Would deserve a fair promotion ♪ 1923 01:24:36,338 --> 01:24:38,540 -♪ Want to move ahead ♪ 1924 01:24:36,338 --> 01:24:38,540 -♪ Move ahead ♪ 1925 01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:41,643 ♪ But the boss won't seem to let me ♪ 1926 01:24:41,643 --> 01:24:44,546 ♪ I swear sometimes that man is out to get me ♪ 1927 01:24:44,546 --> 01:24:47,316 ♪ He's out to get me! ♪ 1928 01:24:47,316 --> 01:24:47,649 -♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1929 01:24:49,318 --> 01:24:52,487 ♪ Nine to five ♪ 1930 01:24:52,487 --> 01:24:52,854 -♪ Workin', workin', workin' ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1931 01:24:54,990 --> 01:24:58,327 ♪ Nine to five they let you dream ♪ 1932 01:24:58,327 --> 01:25:01,263 ♪ Just to watch 'em shatter you're just a step ♪ 1933 01:25:01,263 --> 01:25:03,999 -♪ On the bossman's ladder 1934 01:25:01,263 --> 01:25:03,999 -♪ But you've got 1935 01:25:01,263 --> 01:25:03,999 dreams ♪ 1936 01:25:03,999 --> 01:25:07,502 -♪ He'll never take away 1937 01:25:03,999 --> 01:25:07,502 -♪ He'll never take 'em 1938 01:25:03,999 --> 01:25:07,502 away ♪ 1939 01:25:07,502 --> 01:25:09,671 ♪ You're in the same boat with a lot of your friends ♪ 1940 01:25:09,671 --> 01:25:12,407 ♪ Waitin' for the day your ship'll come in ♪ 1941 01:25:12,407 --> 01:25:14,409 -♪ And when the tide's gonna turn and it's all ♪ -♪ Mm ♪ 1942 01:25:14,409 --> 01:25:17,179 -♪ Gonna roll your way ♪ -♪ I just know it ♪ 1943 01:25:17,179 --> 01:25:19,348 -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1944 01:25:19,348 --> 01:25:22,351 ♪ What a way to make a livin' ♪ 1945 01:25:22,351 --> 01:25:24,519 -♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ -♪ Gettin' by ♪ 1946 01:25:24,519 --> 01:25:28,023 ♪ It's all takin' and no givin' ♪ 1947 01:25:28,023 --> 01:25:29,591 -♪ They just use your mind 1948 01:25:28,023 --> 01:25:29,591 -♪ They just use your 1949 01:25:28,023 --> 01:25:29,591 mind ♪ 1950 01:25:29,591 --> 01:25:32,461 ♪ And they never give you credit ♪ 1951 01:25:32,461 --> 01:25:35,864 ♪ It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it ♪ 1952 01:25:35,864 --> 01:25:39,968 -♪ But you won't let it ♪ -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ 1953 01:25:39,968 --> 01:25:43,205 ♪ Yeah, they got you where they want you ♪ 1954 01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,807 -♪ There's a better life 1955 01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,807 -♪ There's a better 1956 01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,807 life ♪ 1957 01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:48,310 -♪ And you dream about it 1958 01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:48,310 don't you ♪ -♪ You dream 1959 01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:48,310 1960 01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:50,312 -♪ About it, rich man's game ♪ -♪ It's a rich man's 1961 01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:50,312 game ♪ 1962 01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:52,581 ♪ No matter what they call it ♪ 1963 01:25:52,581 --> 01:25:55,984 ♪ And you spend your life puttin' money ♪ 1964 01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,786 -♪ In his wallet ♪ -♪ 1965 01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,786 Puttin' money in his wallet 1966 01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,786 1967 01:25:57,786 --> 01:26:00,222 -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1968 01:26:00,222 --> 01:26:03,158 ♪ What a way to make a livin' ♪ 1969 01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:05,327 -♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ -♪ Gettin' by ♪ 1970 01:26:05,327 --> 01:26:08,897 ♪ It's all takin' and no givin' ♪ 1971 01:26:08,897 --> 01:26:10,432 -♪ They just use your mind 1972 01:26:08,897 --> 01:26:10,432 -♪ They just use your 1973 01:26:08,897 --> 01:26:10,432 mind ♪ 1974 01:26:10,432 --> 01:26:13,301 ♪ And they never give you credit ♪ 1975 01:26:13,301 --> 01:26:15,904 ♪ It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it ♪ 1976 01:26:15,904 --> 01:26:18,573 ♪ Crazy if you let it ♪ 1977 01:26:18,573 --> 01:26:23,412 -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five, ooh ♪ 1978 01:26:23,412 --> 01:26:24,780 -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1979 01:26:27,682 --> 01:26:30,000 rich man's game ♪ 1980 01:26:27,682 --> 01:26:31,253 -♪ Will-- ♪ -♪ It's a 1981 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,253 rich man's game ♪ 1982 01:26:31,253 --> 01:26:33,488 ♪ No matter what they call it ♪ 1983 01:26:33,488 --> 01:26:36,758 ♪ And you spend your life puttin' money ♪ 1984 01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:39,528 -♪ In his wallet ♪ -♪ 1985 01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:39,528 Puttin' money in his wallet 1986 01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:39,528 1987 01:26:39,528 --> 01:26:41,430 -♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1988 01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:42,364 ♪ Just workin' workin', workin' ♪ 1989 01:26:44,032 --> 01:26:46,468 ♪ Nine to five ♪ 1990 01:26:46,468 --> 01:26:47,869 ♪ Just workin' workin', workin' ♪ 1991 01:26:49,871 --> 01:26:51,306 -♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 1992 01:26:51,306 --> 01:26:53,008 ♪ And you think about it don't you ♪ 1993 01:26:54,342 --> 01:26:56,445 ♪ Nine to five ♪ 1994 01:26:56,445 --> 01:26:57,946 ♪ Yeah, you think about it don't you ♪ 1995 01:27:00,015 --> 01:27:00,615 -♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪ 156130

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