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[woman 1] You, you were telling
me before, there's a great
organization here,
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in fact, the title to your new
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movie is 9 to 5. And you
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really advocate
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women getting together, Jane,
as a force to--
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It's an organization of clerical
workers, office workers.
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Uh, some people don't know what
women who work in offices have
to put up with--
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how many people in the
audience are office workers?
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Any of you work in offices?
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-You a-- [laughs] you're not an
office worker. -[woman 1
laughing]
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-Oh, you said women? Oh-- You
raised your hand! -I'm making a
mov--
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-Oh, I raised it! -...a comedy
about, about office workers.
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-Are you gonna hire-- is Dolly
Parton playing the lead? -Dolly
Parton, I think,
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is gonna be in it. She plays
the boss's personal secretary.
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-[laughter]
-[woman 1] Is that funny?
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It's a movie about secretaries
fantasizing about murdering
their boss.
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-So, it's not a political
statement, is-- is it? -[man]
Okay.
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["9 to 5" by Dolly Parton]
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-[scratching]
-[sharp ding]
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♪ Well, I tumble out of bed
and stumble to the kitchen ♪
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♪ Pour myself a
cup of ambition ♪
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♪ Yawn and stretch and
try to come to life ♪
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♪ I jump in the shower and
the blood starts pumpin' ♪
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♪ Out on the street the
traffic starts jumpin' ♪
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♪ With folks like me on
the job from nine to five ♪
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♪ Yeah! Workin' nine to five
what a way to make a livin'
♪
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-♪ Barely... ♪ -[Ellen]
One working woman in three in
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the 1970s
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was a clerical worker. It was
the largest job category in
America.
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[Karen] So, when the movie
9 to 5 came out in 1980...
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Typewriter, Dictaphone,
adding machine.
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...the film was a tipping point.
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We were reaching
millions of women.
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Everybody was very nervous
about the movie,
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because it was
three female leads.
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And I got some flack
working with Jane,
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being such a radical gal.
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[Jane] I've always believed
that film is a good way
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to throw light
into dark corners.
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Uplift voices that
aren't often heard.
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It really connected with me
and women of every generation.
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My mother and my aunties,
there's the sisterhood on
screen,
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the fabulous frocks.
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[Violet] Welcome
to the front lines.
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[Dame Jenni] And for
the first time ever,
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you saw on screen
exactly what you knew
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was happening in offices.
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Hold it right there.
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What?
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Turn around a second.
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Did I think that 9 to 5
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would be relevant 40 years after
its initial release?
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At the time, no.
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[Amaya] It's 40 years later,
right? We still have
corporations
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reinventing ways to really abuse
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and take advantage of
vulnerable workers.
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I didn't think anybody would
want to see it if it was a
drama.
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-[laugher]
-[Jane] And once Lily Tomlin
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and Dolly Parton came
into the picture,
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it couldn't be a drama.
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Obviously, it was
gonna be comedy.
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You know, we use
metaphors in the film
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to show how the women couldn't
break the glass ceiling.
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Going up, girls?
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No, we're going down.
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-[soft clattering]
-[elevator door closes]
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When I first read this script,
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I thought it was
going to be a hit.
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Because of the three gals,
Lily, Jane, Dolly.
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"Stand up for yourselves."
These words were being uttered
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by these icons.
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"Don't put up with
shit." [chuckles]
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"Demand respect."
It's a great message.
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It was the top-grossing comedy
film of the year.
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It did more than a $100
million at the box office.
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It was very much radical and
transformative
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in a way that was funny.
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-[machine beeping]
-[gasps]
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[Bruce] It was our
intention to have
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more diversity
in the cast.
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-[Violet] Two... -[Bruce] When
there were five secretaries,
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we really wanted Diahann
Carroll to be one of the leads.
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And there was a real
commitment to hiring
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a diverse supporting cast.
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At the time, there were very,
very few roles for Hispanics.
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But a big feature
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film, like 9 to 5,
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to have a Hispanic character,
was a big advancement.
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It was a gift from Jane, who
doesn't stand by injustice.
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The real Jane, but
also her character.
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Well, I'm gonna tell her,
this is a disgrace!
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Attagirl.
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But it did touch a nerve.
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It was based in reality.
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Wait, wait a minute. Weren't
you checked out on this machine?
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I mean, any moron could
operate this thing.
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It did resonate
with enough people
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that it really,
right out of the box,
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it just kept getting
bigger and bigger.
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Something wrong? I got something
on my dress?
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[man] Nothing's wrong.
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As a matter of fact,
everything is...
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-...very, very right.
-[Zoe] Because it was about
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an experience most working
women were having in America,
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it was a breakout moment.
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You're so intimidated
by any woman
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that won't sit at
the back of the bus.
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Spare me the women's
lib crap, okay?
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If a movie was advertised as
a women's liberation movie...
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-[man] Mm-hmm. Right. -...me
personally, would probably not
wanna go to it.
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[Bruce] Jane and I had been
working on something called
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the Indochina Peace Campaign
and other issues,
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and out of that, we decided
to try to move forward
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to do films that were about
the same kinds of social issues
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that we'd been involved with
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as social activists
and organizers.
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[Jane] If you're
gonna make a movie
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and what you're
really trying to do is
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inform people about an issue
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that you think is important,
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you have to embed it in a style.
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[narrator] It's about people
faced with the agony of telling
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the truth.
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[Bruce] We made The China
Syndrome, which was about
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-the dangers of nuclear
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power. -[narrator] The
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closer they get,
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-the more threatening it will
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become. -[Bruce] And a
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movie about
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the Vietnam War,
Coming Home.
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It was nominated for Best
Picture and Best Screenplay,
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it won for screenplay and actor and actress.
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Jane won her second Academy
Award with that movie.
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Even if people don't agree with
what you're saying
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or don't care about the issue,
they're gonna wanna see it,
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'cause it's a good
thriller or a good,
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sexy love story
or a good comedy.
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[upbeat whimsical music playing]
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[grunting and
indistinctly mumbling]
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Well, 9 to 5 was the
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name of the movie,
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because that was the name of
the organization
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about working women looking
for equal pay for equal work.
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[woman] Would one of
you like to tell me
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how did this
project get started?
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I think Jane should probably
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tell you that,
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because she's the one
who started this mess.
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-[woman] Jane?
-[laughter]
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Well, I just thought
the time had come
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to make a movie
about office workers,
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and I wanted to work
with these two women,
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particularly these two women.
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-It's a comedy?
-God, yes.
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-It's a comedy with-- -Very
farcical, very funny.
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-[man] Filled with truth? Right.
-Yes.
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Women are on the lower end of
the pay scale
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-and in 9 to 5, you know,
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it's a depiction really...
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-[man] Right.
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-...of those kinds of
conditions. -[man] Yeah.
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-What was your boss like?
-Now, you got that?
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You're the boss.
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You might remember that a little
more often.
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Women feel their
work is important.
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They know that, uh, that it's
skilled work,
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and they wanna be
treated with respect,
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that manifests itself
both in the paycheck
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and in their treatment
in the office.
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Boston has the third
lowest pay scale
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for clerical workers, uh, of the
15 largest cities in, in the
United States.
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Plus, we have the
highest cost of living.
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[Bruce] Karen Nussbaum was
a powerhouse organizer,
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and Jane and I had known her
for many of the social
movements
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that had been going on in the
late '60s and early '70s.
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[Jane] So, whenever I would see
Karen, you know,
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her day job was organizing women
office workers.
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And she would tell me stories
about what they would have to
put up with.
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Not just in terms of
sexual harassment,
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although that was pretty
bad, but, uh, wage theft,
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being fired if
they were pregnant.
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[soft clacking]
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[Karen] In the 1970s,
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there were 20 million
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women office workers
in the country,
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but we were totally invisible.
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We didn't exist in
the popular culture.
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[light whimsical music]
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We started an organization
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called 9to5 in 1973 in Boston.
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We'd gotten a little
bitty office at the YWCA,
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where two of us were
working for 9to5,
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while we also had our day
jobs as clerical workers.
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I was very taken with the
history of garment workers,
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young women at the turn of
the 20th century
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who led these huge strikes,
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walked out of the
garment factories
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and won the eight-hour day,
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protection from
accidents on the job.
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And here I was, sitting
in a room full of women,
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and I thought, "Hmm, this
is kind of the same thing."
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And of course,
working in an office
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was a lot more pleasant and safe
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than working in a garment
factory 100 years before.
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But there were certain
things in common.
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The job itself is
good because, you see,
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besides that women
that have the children,
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that stays home and, and cleans
the house or cooks dinner,
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the job enable us to see
ourselves as independent women.
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[Karen] I look back on it now
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and we were so modest
in our demands.
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"We should have job posting.
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We should at least know what
the jobs are!"
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That was one of our big demands,
job posting.
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But we were also new to this.
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We were reaching into women
who were not activists
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in any part of their lives.
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[Ellen] Women were not able to
march into their boss' office
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and demand a raise.
So we provided forums
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where people could speak up.
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[Karen] And share
their concerns.
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And so, we were
all there together.
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Every class,
racially-mixed.
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And our motto was,
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"Raises, Rights,
and Respect."
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[Ellen] The issue of respect,
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of being taken seriously
as a worker and as a woman,
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was something that
office workers
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needed to express,
bosses needed to hear,
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members of the public needed to
hear, the media needed to hear.
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-Okay, okay-- -[Ellen] And
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Violet really expressed it
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beautifully.
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I am your employee.
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And as such, I expect to be
treated equally.
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With a little dignity and
a little respect!
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[women singing] ♪
Secretaries unite ♪
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♪ Let's show them
how we fight ♪
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♪ For better pay
promotion and respect ♪
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♪ We've sat back
long enough... ♪
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[reporter] The point that
secretaries, as working people,
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might have legitimate labor
grievances is not a new one.
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What is new is the particular
forum for dissent.
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It's not the disembodied voice
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of the amorphous
feminist movement.
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It's this city's secretaries
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talking about this city
secretary's problems.
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I got very tired of apologizing
for being an office worker.
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And I really believe
that what I'm doing
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is very important to the economy
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and that I should have some
respect for what I'm doing.
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[Karen] Equal pay,
sexual harassment,
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childcare, those
issues unite people
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who had been divided across
different kinds of jobs.
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So, we developed what we called
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the 9 to 5 Bill of
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Rights.
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The more our members
found their voice,
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our demands became more serious.
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There was a point at
which the women said,
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"Wait a damn minute! I'm
not gonna take it anymore."
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Jane has this uncanny ability to
see a social trend
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and how that can be
brought to the public,
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and so, she met with
some of our members
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to talk with them about
their experiences.
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[gentle music]
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After hearing a lot of
the stories, I said,
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"I-- I would like to make
a movie about this."
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[Karen] I put together
background stats
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for Jane to give to
the studio that said,
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"There's an audience for this."
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When popular culture
thought about work,
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they thought about
men in hard hats.
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But there're 20 million women
office workers,
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and they were starving for
this kind of representation.
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That was important in getting
a studio to take a, a gamble.
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[Bruce] Karen's background
information was just data
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and newspaper clippings,
it wasn't a movie story.
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I couldn't see doing a straight
dramatic movie
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that would be interesting enough
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for a mainstream audience to
be able to deal
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with the subject matter and
entertain them at the same time.
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And that's a lot harder than
people think it is.
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-[train bell dinging]
-[loud rumbling]
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Preston Sturges films were what
I would call "social comedies."
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One in particular that stands
out is Sullivan's
Travels.
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We made it.
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Amateurs.
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Sturges would put
his protagonists
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in a really unusual situation.
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[brakes screeching]
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-What you doing down there?
-[Bruce] They were very
funny,
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but they were a real
commentary on the times.
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I want this picture
to be a document.
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I wanna hold a
mirror up to life.
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I want this to be a
picture of dignity!
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A true canvas of the suffering
of humanity.
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-But with a little sex in it?
-With a little sex in it.
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-How about a nice musical?
-How can you talk
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-about musicals-- -[Bruce] Just
boom, it just hit me.
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"The way to do this movie
about women in the workplace
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is to do it as an
ensemble social comedy,
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like Preston Sturges."
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-[upbeat dance music]
-[horn blaring]
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[Lily] Well, Jane came to
see me at the Ahmanson,
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I was doing
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Appearing Nitely,
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which was my first
Broadway show.
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And I was really excited that
she was coming to the show,
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and she came backstage,
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and I'd been a fan of
hers for many years.
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[Jane] Just had blown my
mind and made me feel that,
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"I don't wanna make a movie
about women office workers
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if Lily Tomlin
isn't one of them."
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-I was smitten. -Boogie's not a
meaning, boogie is a feeling.
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Don't try to understand it,
try to feel it.
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-Do ya feel it?
-[crowd laughing]
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[Jane] And then,
um, true story.
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I was driving home
from that event
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and I turned on the radio, it
was Dolly Parton singing "Two
Doors Down."
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-♪ Two doors down... ♪
-[Jane] I thought, "Wow."
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♪ ...and drinkin' and
having a party... ♪
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[Jane] She's never
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been in a movie...
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♪ Doors down they're
not aware... ♪
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...but I bet she can
be herself on camera
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and herself is
so multi-layered
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and interesting that
that would be just fine.
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♪ Having a party
just two doors down ♪
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[Jane] And I could
see her, you know,
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just the visual of... [laughing]
she can't see her fingers
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and she's got these long nails,
I thought it would be a really
cool thing.
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-Hi, Violet. How's everything
going? -[Violet] Oh, d--
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[Dolly] I was getting to be
popular in country music,
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and Jane Fonda called
me up and said,
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"You're Dolly Parton." I said,
"Yes, I am."
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She said, "Well, I'm
Jane Fonda." And I said,
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"Yes, you are."
[chuckling] Anyway,
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I was really excited that I was
even gonna get to work with
Jane.
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This is Judy Burnley. Judy's
gonna be working over in my
section, DoraLee Rhodes.
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-Hi, Judy. Nice to meet you.
-How do you do?
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Hope everybody's been treatin'
you real friendly.
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-Showin' you around? -[Dolly]
Well, when I first started
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working with Jane,
I thought, "Nah, no,
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I hope she's not
gonna be so radical
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and so opinionated
and so political
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that I'm gonna be
uncomfortable."
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And I even said that to her.
You know, when we started,
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I said, "Now, I'm not
a political person."
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♪ My mistakes are no
worse than yours ♪
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♪ Just because
I'm a woman ♪
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-♪ My... ♪ -[Dolly] I
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didn't have to march up and down
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the streets
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as I still don't. I try
to live my convictions.
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I'd been writing
songs about women
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and their strengths
since my first album.
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But I was dealing with Jane
Fonda, the actress, the
producer,
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and that we were doing a good
film that had a good message.
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We cast this movie before
the movie was written,
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and I've never done this
before, uh, or since.
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Um, it really helped in-- inform
the development of the
characters.
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So, we pitched the idea to
20th Century Fox
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and they made a
commitment to a script.
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Not to the production, but just
to the writing of a script based
on this idea.
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So, there are three secretaries
working for the worst boss in
the world,
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and they, they decide
to try to kill him.
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And that's where
we started from.
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I went and applied for a job
as a secretary,
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and this guy who
was hiring said,
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"Well, she can't really type,
but I'd take her out."
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[laughing] So, tells you
a little bit about, um,
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when we were. And the
characters, particularly,
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what ended up being
Dolly's character,
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very much based on the research
that I did.
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But we were not entirely happy
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with the tone that, uh, emerged.
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It was a comedy, but it was
a very dark comedy.
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I had them try to kill him,
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in funny ways, but it's
still-- it's a black comedy.
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[Bruce] To me, the tone
was of utmost importance...
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-[frantic music playing]
-...because of the nature of
the subject matter,
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where the three women
were going to be
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the protagonists in the film,
and there was going to be a
boss
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who was definitely not very
attractive, antagonist.
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-[muffled groaning] -[Violet]
So, what are we gonna do now?
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To have men watch that
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and identify with the women was
very important.
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So, uh, we adapted the script to
the new situation
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and hired Colin Higgins, the
wonderful writer-director.
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[gentle music]
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You know, he wrote Harold
and Maude. [chuckles]
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[Lily] Isn't that enough?
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I just love Harold and
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Maude, and I was so excited
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when he got involved
with our movie.
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00:17:14,634 --> 00:17:18,704
Oh, Harold. I am happy.
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He had a quirky view of people.
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-[shouts] What?
-[siren blaring]
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[Jane] And he had a kind
of feminist sensibility.
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He loved women.
403
00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:32,818
I love you.
404
00:17:32,818 --> 00:17:34,387
There was no hidden agenda.
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We always knew what he felt
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and what he-- what he wanted.
407
00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:40,559
So, it was very
easy for all of us,
408
00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,862
but that was especially
important for Dolly,
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because she'd never
made a movie before.
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[Dolly] Colin was
so gentle, so sweet.
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He was not, like,
scary or demanding,
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he was not loud.
And that was good,
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because I would've not enjoyed a first movie
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with someone like that.
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Those three ladies
are just the best.
416
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,882
It was very hard for me because
I had my vision,
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it was different
than his vision.
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He had little
cartoon birds and...
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...fantasies, and it was
pretty slapsticky.
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-Violet, get me some coffee.
-[sparkly music playing]
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Yes, sir!
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[Bruce] Colin came up
with the fantasy sequences
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during this process of trying
to come up with a new story
for 9 to 5.
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[Jane] We got about
40 women together
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from the 9to5, National
Association of Women Office
Workers,
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and they went around in a circle
and they told their story.
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It was a very stiff and stilted
conversation.
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[deeply inhales] And just when
the meeting was about to end,
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Colin said, "Do any
of you ever fantasize
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what you'd like to do to
your boss?" [laughs]
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I just thought, "What a genius!"
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And we went around
the circle again.
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[upbeat jazz music]
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One woman wanted to cut her boss
up into little pieces
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and put him in the
coffee grinder,
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and then put him in
the coffee machine
437
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:05,277
and have him...
[laughing] drip out.
438
00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:08,114
"Put rat poison in his coffee."
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00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:10,950
One woman wanted to shred
her boss in a paper shredder.
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I could laugh,
Colin could laugh,
441
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as men, in this
room full of women,
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listening to their
very visual fantasies
443
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about doing in their bosses in
very graphic,
444
00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:23,262
-almost cartoonish ways.
-[whooshing and dogs barking]
445
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[loudly gasps] Who's there?
446
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Looks like you've got
yourself in a spot of trouble.
447
00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:31,470
[Dabney] When I think of that
movie, I always think of Jane
448
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when she came out in that outfit
dressed like a safari hunter.
449
00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:39,512
You're a sexist, egotistical,
lying, hypocritical bigot.
450
00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:40,813
So, I have a few
faults, who doesn't?
451
00:19:40,813 --> 00:19:43,149
Is that any reason to kill me?
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-[gunshot]
-[Dabney] And it was funny,
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which is the best way
to convince anybody
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of anything, in my opinion.
455
00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,423
I know it's kind
of controversial
456
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to kidnap your boss...
457
00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:53,859
[announcer] ...Miss
DoraLee Rhodes...
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...and, um, hold
them hostage, but...
459
00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:57,997
[indistinct mumbling]
460
00:19:57,997 --> 00:20:01,333
...it seemed like th-- the right
thing to do.
461
00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:04,336
[Lily] Well, I was living in
New York at the time.
462
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And, uh, I didn't
like some of the humor
463
00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:12,812
in the 9 to 5 script, so
464
00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:12,812
I turned it down... at first.
465
00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:14,346
There was, you
know, things in it
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that I would consider kind of
silly or empty.
467
00:20:16,682 --> 00:20:18,350
[jazz music]
468
00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:19,552
Like, when we were drinking
469
00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:21,854
in the bar after work.
470
00:20:22,188 --> 00:20:25,057
Would you two show
a little spunk?
471
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:28,894
I mean, what are you,
a man or a mouse?
472
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:30,896
I mean, a woman or
a wouse. [laughs]
473
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:33,165
-Hey...
-[Bruce] When Lily Tomlin
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turns down your script and tells
you it's not very good,
475
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you start to worry
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00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:41,740
because she's such
a comedic genius
477
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,909
that you begin to think,
478
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:47,546
"What am I not seeing
in this script?
479
00:20:47,546 --> 00:20:49,715
-What is she seeing?"
-I said first, "man or a mouse,"
480
00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:51,917
then I say, "woman or a wouse."
481
00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:55,488
I don't know, that's just
sort of foolish rhyming.
482
00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:58,757
[laughs] And so, I, I tried
to get Colin to change that.
483
00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:01,060
And my partner, Jane, she said,
484
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,363
"You threw that script back in
Jane Fonda's face.
485
00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:06,732
She developed that movie for
you and Dolly.
486
00:21:06,732 --> 00:21:09,335
What is wrong with you?"
487
00:21:09,335 --> 00:21:12,838
[sighs] "I don't know." [laughs]
488
00:21:12,838 --> 00:21:15,741
And I-- but I-- you know,
I was-- I don't know.
489
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,043
[Dolly] Well, it wasn't hard
490
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,043
for me to make the decision
491
00:21:18,043 --> 00:21:19,678
to do the movie,
because when they said
492
00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,780
its Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin,
493
00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,415
I thought, "Well,
how hard can this be?
494
00:21:23,415 --> 00:21:25,417
If it's a big hit,
495
00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:27,887
I'll get to, you know, roll
around in the glory.
496
00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:29,355
And if it's a flop, I can
blame it on them,
497
00:21:29,355 --> 00:21:32,358
'cause nobody knows me, anyway,
in the business."
498
00:21:33,692 --> 00:21:37,029
-Morning. -[Dolly] And Dabney
and I had such fun reversing
roles.
499
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:39,064
-Turn around for a second.
-[sighing] Oh.
500
00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:42,968
[whistles] Oh, you
got a nice ass, Frank.
501
00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:45,804
No wonder we were all scared to
death to work with this dynamo.
502
00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:47,773
She's frightening.
503
00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,208
[Dolly] I got to
504
00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,208
do what Mr. Hart
505
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:51,977
had been doing to us
girls in the office!
506
00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:54,880
[sniffs] Boy, that's great
cologne you're wearing, Frank.
507
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,316
Oh, thank you. [chuckles]
508
00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,486
That stuff's turning me on.
What's that called?
509
00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:03,255
-STUD.
-STUD!
510
00:22:03,255 --> 00:22:06,559
[Bruce] Dolly came
on board right away.
511
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:10,229
Colin Higgins and I had
actually flown to New York
512
00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:13,799
to talk to Gilda Radner about
possibly replacing Lily.
513
00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:17,236
-...selection, Gilda.
-Gilda. Oh,
514
00:22:17,236 --> 00:22:19,905
that struck a knife in my soul.
I adore Gilda.
515
00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:21,840
And she's from Detroit.
516
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,676
I said, "Oh, God,
Gilda'll get this part.
517
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,611
I don't know, I don't know."
518
00:22:25,611 --> 00:22:28,147
And so, I went home,
and I told Jane
519
00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:31,016
that I had turned it down.
That's when Jane really hit the
roof.
520
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,585
She said, "You get on the phone
and call them
521
00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:34,353
and tell them you
want that part."
522
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:39,325
Yeah. She came to her senses,
so all was good.
523
00:22:39,325 --> 00:22:41,193
[woman] What about playing a
secretary that appeals to you?
524
00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:43,495
I mean, you've played almost
everything now.
525
00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:47,199
Well, I play a woman who's, um,
526
00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:49,768
never worked in her life. She's
a middle-class woman
527
00:22:49,768 --> 00:22:51,937
who's just been
left by her husband,
528
00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:55,107
and who goes into
the job market,
529
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:57,343
enters this working world of
9 to 5 for the first time.
530
00:22:57,343 --> 00:22:59,845
[upbeat whimsical music]
531
00:22:59,845 --> 00:23:01,347
[young Lily] In 9 to
5, what's depicted is
532
00:23:01,347 --> 00:23:02,648
just how much we keep
the office running.
533
00:23:02,648 --> 00:23:06,151
That's 2:10, at thirty--
534
00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:07,653
[young Lily] Because I'm a
supervisor, I'm not an
executive,
535
00:23:07,653 --> 00:23:09,855
but I'm, I'm kind of in
charge of a big section,
536
00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:11,390
and I'm an old veteran,
I've been there 12 years.
537
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,525
I'm a widow. I have four kids,
538
00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,027
and I really have
to keep my job,
539
00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:16,695
but the boss-- I
trained the boss,
540
00:23:16,695 --> 00:23:18,998
-I've trained everybody.
-Right.
541
00:23:18,998 --> 00:23:20,833
-We could improve efficiency
by up to 20%-- -Oh, well,
542
00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:23,002
color-coding, sure,
I looked into that,
543
00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:24,703
but that, that needs a little
work. I mean, I'm gonna have
544
00:23:24,703 --> 00:23:26,405
to get back to you on
that. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
545
00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:29,208
[sniffs] Okay.
546
00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:31,543
But they never promote me to
a-- any executive position,
547
00:23:31,543 --> 00:23:34,046
and he steals my ideas.
548
00:23:34,046 --> 00:23:37,850
We are gonna start color-coding
the accounts from now on.
549
00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:40,185
-Frank's done a brilliant study
with efficiency-- -Yeah, thank
you, sir.
550
00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:43,989
Really? Congratulations,
Mr. Hart.
551
00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:45,591
[man] What was new to you about
doing a film?
552
00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:46,892
Now, as I understand it,
you hadn't even seen
553
00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:49,228
a film being made,
is that correct?
554
00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:51,697
That's true. I had went through
the Universal Tour.
555
00:23:51,697 --> 00:23:55,200
[laughter]
556
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,337
Dolly has this, you
know, giggly persona
557
00:23:58,337 --> 00:24:02,675
that is so a-- approachable,
and she's so funny.
558
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,944
-It wasn't really a surprise
that she could act. -Oh, hi,
Judy.
559
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047
-How's everything going?
560
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047
-[Bruce] She plays the
561
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047
beautiful assistant
562
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,047
secretary.
563
00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:09,882
Hey, how would you like to have
lunch with me today?
564
00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:12,084
Well, I'm afraid
I, I can't, thanks.
565
00:24:12,084 --> 00:24:14,286
-[indistinct chatter] -[Bruce]
566
00:24:12,084 --> 00:24:14,286
That is looked at
567
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:17,756
by some of the other women
as being kind of less than.
568
00:24:17,756 --> 00:24:19,925
Well, I think I should stay in
the office an--
569
00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:23,562
and get to know the routine, uh,
but thanks, anyway.
570
00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:28,067
-Yeah, sure. -[Bruce] It's
kind of a, a reverse sexism,
571
00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:28,067
actually.
572
00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:32,204
Because of their looks,
they're viewed as not having
top-notch skills.
573
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:37,776
Those stereotypes really seeped
into women's consciousness,
574
00:24:37,776 --> 00:24:40,979
and it took a lot for women to
really examine that,
575
00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:45,417
and say, "Is that really me?
Am I the office girl?
576
00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:49,822
Or am I a working woman who
deserves to be taken seriously?"
577
00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,257
-Franklin Hart's office.
-[Bruce] In a funny kind of way,
578
00:24:52,257 --> 00:24:55,294
these three very
different actresses
579
00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:59,665
also sh-- [chuckling] you know,
shared several things
580
00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:03,335
of, uh, trying to make it in a,
in a male-dominated industry,
581
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:07,506
playing characters in a movie
about women in a male-dominated
industry.
582
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,509
That really lent itself to
developing that close personal
relationship.
583
00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:14,980
Sometimes, during the movie,
it was like in high school.
584
00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:17,583
You know, like, I'd see the
two of them talking together,
585
00:25:17,583 --> 00:25:19,852
and then I'd think,
586
00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:21,820
"They like each other
better than they like me."
587
00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:24,189
-[laughter] I always thought
that... -Lily was always--
588
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,691
...th-- especially the first
couple of weeks, because you two
589
00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:27,326
started before I
did, and I'd come in,
590
00:25:27,326 --> 00:25:28,827
and you'd be in there working
in the kitchen,
591
00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:30,996
th-- you know, the
office kitchen,
592
00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:33,832
and I was just sure that they
were, like, best friends,
593
00:25:33,832 --> 00:25:35,300
-and they sort of liked me.
-[laughter]
594
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,035
I do remember that
coming on the set
595
00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:38,804
the first day with Dolly was--
596
00:25:38,804 --> 00:25:42,708
uh, she had--
597
00:25:42,708 --> 00:25:45,310
uh, was quite surprised
we were not shooting
598
00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:48,180
the first scene first.
That we were, you know,
599
00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,883
shooting the office scenes,
because she had, uh,
600
00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:53,652
memorized the whole script.
601
00:25:54,653 --> 00:25:57,122
-[young Dolly] I just assumed we
had to-- -[man] Like a play.
602
00:25:57,122 --> 00:25:59,858
-Everybody's part, though.
-Yeah, my part and her part
603
00:25:59,858 --> 00:26:02,027
-and her part and Dabney's part.
-[laughing]
604
00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:03,862
But I'm not-- just knew
the script back and forth.
605
00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,031
And I just, every week,
I would, you know,
606
00:26:06,031 --> 00:26:09,034
I would read it and I would read
it with my secretary.
607
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,203
-Uh, I'd have her read the other
parts. -Did y-- did you
practice--
608
00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:14,306
-did you pra-- -Yeah, I would
practice, yeah. And, uh, that
was fun.
609
00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:15,507
-It was-- I tri-- -How were
you in my part?
610
00:26:15,507 --> 00:26:17,576
I was great in your part.
611
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,545
[Lily] The first
day of shooting,
612
00:26:19,545 --> 00:26:21,647
I had to shoot
for the animation,
613
00:26:21,647 --> 00:26:24,049
and of course, the
animation wasn't there.
614
00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:26,218
So, it's, like, I had
to, like, you know,
615
00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,253
like, little birds are flying
around me and all that stuff.
616
00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:30,222
[animated music playing]
617
00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:35,027
I just thought I was terrible.
618
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,930
I saw my image and I thought,
619
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:40,732
"Ugh, how so stupid, I just
can't go through with this."
620
00:26:40,732 --> 00:26:43,068
So, I went to Bruce
Gilbert and I said,
621
00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:44,603
"Bruce, you gotta let
me out of the movie,
622
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,205
you don't have to
pay me or anything."
623
00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:49,241
Those 24 hours, when
Lily Tomlin said
624
00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:51,910
she thought she
should quit the film
625
00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:55,214
or that I should release
her from the film
626
00:26:55,214 --> 00:26:58,383
because her performance
wasn't up to snuff,
627
00:26:58,383 --> 00:27:01,720
wa-- you know, w-- was
o-- one of those moments,
628
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,889
especially since Lily Tomlin
629
00:27:03,889 --> 00:27:07,192
was so key to playing
the demented Snow White,
630
00:27:07,192 --> 00:27:09,728
and she had turned the project
down once before.
631
00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:12,030
I saw my life flashing
before my eyes.
632
00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:14,800
Just the first day
of shooting in film,
633
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,202
and one of the lead actresses
wants to quit the picture.
634
00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:19,872
Now, nobody tells Lily
635
00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:21,707
in their right mind
how to be funny.
636
00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:24,776
[whimsical music playing]
637
00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:28,714
And if it's not funny now,
it will be in five seconds.
638
00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:33,785
And funnier the next day because
she knows how to be funny.
639
00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:35,454
We loved Dabney 'cause he was
a scoundrel that--
640
00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:37,890
just lovable scoundrel.
641
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:39,591
You girls, of course,
never got a chance
642
00:27:39,591 --> 00:27:42,160
to play football or baseball.
643
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,229
[Lily] And Mr. Hart's
walking around,
644
00:27:44,229 --> 00:27:48,300
pontificating about teamwork
and playing football.
645
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,603
...it's probably the best place
to learn what teamwork is all
about.
646
00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:55,641
And I said to Colin, "Can I
just say to Judy, sotto voce,
647
00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:58,310
'Well, I've got the bad back
to prove it.'"
648
00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:00,779
And Colin'd say, "Oh, no, no,
they'll never hear that."
649
00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:03,148
-It's weakest link-- Goddammit!
-[chair clacks]
650
00:28:03,148 --> 00:28:05,117
[Lily] And sure enough, they
didn't. They were laughing
651
00:28:05,117 --> 00:28:08,320
at Dabney so much, they
would never have heard me.
652
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,455
-Well, I-- -I like someone
who knows where the laughs are
653
00:28:10,455 --> 00:28:12,591
ahead of time.
654
00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:15,127
-Good God.
-Oh.
655
00:28:15,827 --> 00:28:18,096
[indistinct mumbling]
656
00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:19,998
-[door closes]
-Who was that?
657
00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:22,668
-A friend.
-Obviously.
658
00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:25,003
So, that's what you're
into now. Bondage?
659
00:28:25,003 --> 00:28:27,306
-What's that?
-And later, Jane says,
660
00:28:27,306 --> 00:28:29,141
"And if I want to do M&Ms or..."
661
00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:31,510
...have an affair or, or play,
play sex games,
662
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:34,846
or do M&Ms, you can't stop me!
663
00:28:34,846 --> 00:28:37,215
-M&Ms? -[Lily] I said, "Well,
I don't like that joke.
664
00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:39,985
That's just too
lame." And every time,
665
00:28:39,985 --> 00:28:44,990
I'd go to the, to the screening
and there'd be riotous laughter.
666
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:48,694
Colin always knew his audience.
667
00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:52,564
And he knew where the laughs
were, he was really kind of
divine that way.
668
00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:55,867
So I learned that
Lily's first reaction
669
00:28:55,867 --> 00:28:57,903
is not always the best reaction.
670
00:28:57,903 --> 00:28:59,538
[light melancholic music]
671
00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:04,209
[Jane] Back when we made
672
00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:04,209
9 to 5 in the late '70s,
673
00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:07,579
women earned less than 60
cents to the dollar
674
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:10,649
that a man would earn
doing the same work.
675
00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:14,252
And it wasn't easy for women to
talk about money.
676
00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:18,657
So, we wanted to show how...
677
00:29:19,558 --> 00:29:21,660
...biased the system
is against women.
678
00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:24,096
All I have done
is be a housewife.
679
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:27,899
-Mm. -Oh, I wanted to ask you
about my salary.
680
00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:30,235
-I don't think I c-- -It's a
very touchy subject around here.
681
00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:32,337
You'll have to take that up with
our boss, Mr. Hart.
682
00:29:32,337 --> 00:29:34,740
Only six out of 100 women
683
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:37,676
ever made it into management
out of the typing pool.
684
00:29:37,676 --> 00:29:40,379
[Jane] So, a very smart
woman like Violet...
685
00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:44,016
-Would you look at this?
-...could train a new guy,
686
00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,184
and then, he would just be
promoted right past her.
687
00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:48,020
For Christ's sake,
I trained him.
688
00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:49,554
I know that, but see,
the, the company--
689
00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:52,024
Oh, the company bullshit!
690
00:29:52,024 --> 00:29:54,393
It's your decision, you
promoted him. You tell me why.
691
00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:57,095
-He does have a family to
support. -And I don't?
692
00:29:57,095 --> 00:29:58,597
[man] You don't like
women out on a job?
693
00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:01,266
Well, uh, homemaking has its--
694
00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:03,535
there's two things must clarify,
there are homemakers
695
00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:06,104
and there are women that
work o-- outside of the home.
696
00:30:06,104 --> 00:30:08,106
Uh, putting these things in
proper perspective.
697
00:30:08,106 --> 00:30:10,942
Women should st-- still
should be women, you know.
698
00:30:10,942 --> 00:30:13,378
The girls, I think, uh, got
it over the guys.
699
00:30:13,378 --> 00:30:15,947
They get everything paid for and
everything else.
700
00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:19,251
I don't see what, what they're
really... arguing about.
701
00:30:19,251 --> 00:30:22,120
I think they have just as m--
many rights as the guys have.
702
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,057
Well, women that, uh, probably
have been divorced or something
703
00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:28,126
have to go out and work. I think
there's a special type of work
that they should do.
704
00:30:28,126 --> 00:30:30,962
But I think they, uh, should do
feminine work.
705
00:30:30,962 --> 00:30:31,830
[young Jane] You know, a lot of
people believe
706
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,132
that women who go to work, uh,
707
00:30:34,132 --> 00:30:36,802
do it s-- out of some trip,
they wanna be liberated.
708
00:30:36,802 --> 00:30:38,804
And, uh, you know, I
think it's important
709
00:30:38,804 --> 00:30:41,139
to recognize that women work
'cause they have to.
710
00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:43,909
[Violet] Norman, she has never
worked in her life before!
711
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:46,311
She needs the job. She's
recently divorced.
712
00:30:46,311 --> 00:30:48,580
And so? And I'm a
widow with four kids.
713
00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:50,449
Jerry should've
never died, I c--
714
00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:51,817
I'd be better off, I could have
divorced him.
715
00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:54,286
[light whimsical music]
716
00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:56,321
Many women are the sole
supporters of families,
717
00:30:56,321 --> 00:30:58,323
and many women have
to work to supplement
718
00:30:58,323 --> 00:31:00,192
their husband's income in order
to raise the family income
719
00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:02,294
above the poverty level.
720
00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:06,431
My husband's income did
not cover all of our needs.
721
00:31:06,431 --> 00:31:09,267
So I started pursuing a job.
722
00:31:09,267 --> 00:31:12,337
And everywhere I went,
they turned me down.
723
00:31:12,337 --> 00:31:16,007
They said, "We do not have work
for any women."
724
00:31:16,007 --> 00:31:18,176
Wouldn't even let me fill out
an application.
725
00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:21,146
I'd even offer to
work free for a week
726
00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:22,514
to prove that I
could do the job,
727
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,551
and they still were
not interested.
728
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,520
I have four children.
729
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,489
Are you the sole
support of the children?
730
00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:33,625
-Yes. And I do have-- -That's
a pretty strong issue.
731
00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:37,028
And I do have to work.
732
00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:39,631
[Patricia] But there
was no childcare.
733
00:31:39,631 --> 00:31:43,168
Where were you supposed to
leave your kids?
734
00:31:43,168 --> 00:31:46,505
Women are expected to be
the primary caretakers
735
00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:51,042
and still show up at offices.
736
00:31:51,042 --> 00:31:55,013
I don't think you can go out to
work not knowing,
737
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:57,382
you know, whether your child
is being cared for properly.
738
00:31:57,382 --> 00:32:00,719
It's definitely a, a thought in
your mind at all times.
739
00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,721
[gentle music]
740
00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:13,398
[Ellen] It used to be the man
working at a job
741
00:32:13,398 --> 00:32:16,568
and the woman staying home and
taking care of the children.
742
00:32:16,568 --> 00:32:18,737
Now, all of sudden,
we have the syndrome
743
00:32:18,737 --> 00:32:21,339
of women office
workers being expected
744
00:32:21,339 --> 00:32:24,409
just kind of take care of men
in the office.
745
00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:27,179
Coffee, Violet.
746
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:30,549
Now.
747
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,784
Yes, sir.
748
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,286
[Karen] This notion
that you were there
749
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:37,923
to get their coffee
just drove us insane.
750
00:32:37,923 --> 00:32:39,791
[Rita] I would call them
the Bustelo woman.
751
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,093
Bustelo is a brand of coffee.
752
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:45,430
And, uh, that's
all I was offered,
753
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,266
those kinds of parts after I did
754
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,266
West Side Story. You
755
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,266
know, coffee pourer.
756
00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:51,136
The old thing about coffee and
who gets coffee,
757
00:32:51,136 --> 00:32:53,939
I mean, that's not such a
big deal, it's just a symbol.
758
00:32:53,939 --> 00:32:56,107
-[man] Oh, right, yeah.
-Uh, but when people get
759
00:32:56,107 --> 00:32:59,211
a little more aware about
symbols, it means a lot.
760
00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:01,146
Your coffee, Mr. Hart.
761
00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,048
I'm glad I had the
presence of mind
762
00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:05,417
to be a liberated Snow White.
763
00:33:05,417 --> 00:33:08,286
[whimsical music playing]
764
00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:09,621
I think there was something
in that coffee!
765
00:33:09,621 --> 00:33:11,590
Bingo.
766
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,992
[Mr. Hart screaming]
767
00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:15,994
We used to call it, "being
the office wife."
768
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,263
You had to take over all of
the daily duties
769
00:33:18,263 --> 00:33:21,299
of whatever man you
were working for.
770
00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:28,173
The things that bosses felt free
to ask their secretaries was
just jaw-dropping.
771
00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:31,142
We had a boss who
required his secretary
772
00:33:31,142 --> 00:33:35,914
to sew a seam in his pants while
he still had them on.
773
00:33:37,082 --> 00:33:40,986
Another boss who required a
secretary to clean his dentures.
774
00:33:40,986 --> 00:33:45,490
One who gave his
secretary his beeper
775
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:49,327
to go cruise in the bar
downstairs from the office,
776
00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:50,996
and let him know if there'd be
any women there
777
00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:54,032
who met his specifications.
778
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:59,204
And so, the movie is trying
to grapple with these issues.
779
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:01,506
Oh, Violet, by the way, my
wife is coming by later on.
780
00:34:01,506 --> 00:34:02,641
I'd like to get her a little
present. Could you pick her out
781
00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:04,342
a nice scarf or something?
782
00:34:04,342 --> 00:34:06,344
All I'm saying, Mr. Hart,
783
00:34:06,344 --> 00:34:08,213
is that my job description
doesn't say anything
784
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:10,115
-about making purchases for your
wife. -Goddammit!
785
00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:11,850
When I ask an employee,
especially one
786
00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:13,518
who wants to be
promoted to management,
787
00:34:13,518 --> 00:34:15,720
I expect a little cooperation--
788
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,689
[Jane] The issue that got
the most attention
789
00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:21,693
because it has to do with sex is
sexual harassment.
790
00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:23,561
[phone ringing]
791
00:34:26,331 --> 00:34:29,134
-Hello. -[Shirley] The calls
come in every single night.
792
00:34:29,134 --> 00:34:32,737
They range from a
very young woman
793
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:36,174
being harassed by her employer
for sexual favors
794
00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:39,344
to a very elderly
woman being harassed.
795
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:43,715
Fortune 500, small companies,
school systems.
796
00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,052
I can't think of any particular
kind of work environment
797
00:34:47,052 --> 00:34:49,254
from which we haven't
received a call
798
00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:52,057
of either discrimination or
sexual harassment.
799
00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:54,225
These women need their jobs
800
00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:56,728
and they have to put up with
the kind of remarks
801
00:34:56,728 --> 00:34:58,730
and the kind of attitude
802
00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:01,099
that no worker should
have to tolerate.
803
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,935
You know what the man needs? The
man needs a good piece of ass.
804
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,837
Why don't you fix him up with
your secretary?
805
00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:06,838
-She's the choicest piece around
here. -No, no, no.
806
00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:08,840
That's baby's for papa.
807
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,542
[Bruce] You know,
we cut down on some
808
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,877
of the sexual harassment scenes.
809
00:35:12,877 --> 00:35:15,280
Some of them were
just too cringeworthy,
810
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,382
but the ones we left in were
certainly reflective
811
00:35:17,382 --> 00:35:21,052
of women's everyday experiences.
812
00:35:21,419 --> 00:35:23,688
It's five o'clock,
Mr. Hart. You wanted to see me?
813
00:35:23,688 --> 00:35:25,690
[Mr. Hart] Oh, I
did, DoraLee. Uh,
814
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:27,926
I'd like you to come over to my
house tonight.
815
00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:29,627
Oh, wait now. I'm not, uh,
working tonight, Mr. Hart.
816
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:31,096
This is Friday, remember?
817
00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:34,232
Uh, who said
anything about work?
818
00:35:34,432 --> 00:35:36,735
-[chuckles] -[Dolly] I don't
take life too serious,
819
00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:38,737
but 9 to 5, it
touched on some things
820
00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:40,739
that needed to be
touched on at the time,
821
00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,541
back when we did this
in, uh, '79, '80.
822
00:35:43,541 --> 00:35:46,311
-Now, let's don't get excited.
-Get your scummy hands off of
me.
823
00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,246
Look, I've been straight with
you from the first day I got
here,
824
00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:50,248
and I put up with all
your pinchin' and starin'
825
00:35:50,248 --> 00:35:52,484
and chasing me around the desk
'cause I need this job.
826
00:35:52,484 --> 00:35:55,620
-But this is the last straw!
-Sexual harassment.
827
00:35:55,620 --> 00:36:00,225
It wasn't talked about then.
Now, it seems like, "Duh."
828
00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,794
-Look, I got a gun out there in
my purse. -[grunts]
829
00:36:02,794 --> 00:36:04,562
And up till now, I've been
forgiving and forgetting
830
00:36:04,562 --> 00:36:05,663
because of the way
I was brought up.
831
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:08,566
Like DoraLee, I've always known
832
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:11,603
how to stand my ground based on
who, who I am and where I'm from
833
00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:13,738
and how my daddy
told me to handle it.
834
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:15,640
If you ever say
another word about me
835
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,909
or make another
indecent proposal,
836
00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:20,311
I'm gonna get that gun of
mine and I'm gonna change you
837
00:36:20,311 --> 00:36:21,613
from a rooster to a
hen with one shot!
838
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:23,481
[whimpers]
839
00:36:23,481 --> 00:36:26,284
[DoraLee] Don't
think I can't do it.
840
00:36:26,584 --> 00:36:27,018
[door bangs]
841
00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:32,323
-Shit.
-Somebody was once talking
842
00:36:32,323 --> 00:36:34,859
about doing comedy, they said,
if you are doing comedy,
843
00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:38,663
if you're doing funny--
something that's funny,
844
00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:40,799
you shouldn't think of yourself
as being funny while you're
doing it.
845
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:45,370
Oh, it's so fragile and elusive,
you know, the--
846
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:48,807
It's easier to make people cry,
847
00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:52,277
but the thin line that brings
someone over the edge
848
00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:55,447
to make them laugh is
really easy to miss.
849
00:36:55,847 --> 00:36:59,284
It's very subtle.
Very, very subtle.
850
00:36:59,284 --> 00:37:01,886
And, uh, Dabney Coleman,
who plays the boss,
851
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,889
and Lily Tomlin, their timing...
852
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:09,360
-[indistinct chatter] -...their
choices are, as any other actor
853
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,364
or director who knows comedy
will tell you, brilliant.
854
00:37:13,364 --> 00:37:15,366
Oh, I'm sorry, Violet, why, why
don't you sit down. Sit down
over there!
855
00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:17,035
I'm just getting ready to play
my last card.
856
00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:19,838
I'm gonna send you
three bitches to jail.
857
00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:22,373
Originally, the studio
wanted a movie star
858
00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:24,209
in the boss's role.
859
00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:26,711
Not a TV actor.
860
00:37:26,711 --> 00:37:28,847
They're going
like, "Dabney who?"
861
00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:31,082
At the time, culturally,
862
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:34,052
there were TV actors
and film actors,
863
00:37:34,052 --> 00:37:36,221
and there was a huge
gulf in-between.
864
00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:38,857
-Mr. Hart, if you'd only listen.
-You listen to me.
865
00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:41,025
I'll see y'all in prison before
I'm through.
866
00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:45,830
Steve Martin, Richard Dreyfuss,
and other names came up.
867
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:47,866
And we had kind of
an uphill battle
868
00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:50,535
because it was a revelation to
a lot of people
869
00:37:50,535 --> 00:37:52,837
that women could carry a movie.
870
00:37:52,837 --> 00:37:55,206
And I kept saying to them,
871
00:37:55,206 --> 00:37:57,909
"The women are the
star of this movie."
872
00:37:57,909 --> 00:37:59,944
And we had to struggle
with the studio
873
00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:02,780
to approve Dabney
Coleman in that role
874
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,083
and get the green light
to make the movie.
875
00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:06,718
-[rattling]
-[indistinct chatter]
876
00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:10,288
I was virtually the
only man in the movie.
877
00:38:11,356 --> 00:38:14,259
-And it was thrilling.
-I'm gonna get loose.
878
00:38:14,259 --> 00:38:16,461
[Dabney] I mean, I'm stepping
in there with three giants.
879
00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:19,063
You start tangling with me,
880
00:38:19,063 --> 00:38:21,232
you better be prepared
to play very rough.
881
00:38:21,232 --> 00:38:23,935
So, how important
was Dabney Coleman
882
00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:27,038
in the making of this movie or
in the success of this movie?
883
00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:29,140
-Enormous.
-As you know,
884
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:32,777
the chairman of the board of
Consolidated Companies,
885
00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:34,612
-working on consequent--
-[clattering]
886
00:38:34,612 --> 00:38:36,781
Ooh! Oh, the pencils, yeah.
887
00:38:36,781 --> 00:38:40,084
[chuckling] It's all
right. I'll get it.
888
00:38:40,084 --> 00:38:42,453
[Bruce] Doing a Preston
Sturges type comedy
889
00:38:42,453 --> 00:38:45,757
is extremely hard and actually pull it off.
890
00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:46,791
-Let me help you with those.
-No, that's okay.
891
00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:48,760
[Bruce] Dabney plays a role
892
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,096
where he does absolutely
despicable things.
893
00:38:52,096 --> 00:38:55,300
You know, you mean so much more
to me than just...
894
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:56,935
...a dumb secretary, so I--
895
00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,670
[Bruce] And at
896
00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,670
the same time,
897
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,939
you never
really hate him.
898
00:39:00,939 --> 00:39:02,106
-You didn't have to do that.
-[Dabney] Well, it is a comedy
899
00:39:02,106 --> 00:39:04,008
and comedies are tricky.
900
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,244
You never know what's
gonna work or not.
901
00:39:06,244 --> 00:39:09,814
Mr. Hart, I've told you before,
I'm a married woman!
902
00:39:09,814 --> 00:39:11,983
And I'm a married man, that's
what makes it so perfect.
903
00:39:11,983 --> 00:39:14,686
-Oh, Mr. Hart. Oh!
-No. DoraLee, please.
904
00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:18,089
But the trick of it, for
all comedy, in my opinion,
905
00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:21,492
is do it straight, especially
when you're being bad.
906
00:39:21,492 --> 00:39:22,961
-Oh, for heaven's sake!
-I need you--
907
00:39:22,961 --> 00:39:25,163
What are you doing, Mr. Hart?
908
00:39:25,163 --> 00:39:25,697
Call me, Frank.
909
00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:28,466
Any amount of rottenness
910
00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:29,767
that he wants to display
911
00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:32,003
is perfect for this character,
912
00:39:32,003 --> 00:39:34,038
because he has no redeeming
qualities at all.
913
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,841
He is a bad person. But
that's the fun of it.
914
00:39:36,841 --> 00:39:40,445
-Oh! Whoa! No.
-Oh-- Did you hurt yourself?
915
00:39:40,845 --> 00:39:43,181
Wha-- what are you
doing down here?
916
00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,150
Anyone who would take,
uh, that seriously
917
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:49,887
and say, "Well, that is not what
all, uh, male bosses are like,"
918
00:39:49,887 --> 00:39:51,889
-is missing the point.
-Dabney Coleman is not
919
00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:53,658
all that different
from Mr. Hart!
920
00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:55,526
He's a Texas boy for real.
921
00:39:55,526 --> 00:39:57,528
[upbeat inspirational music]
922
00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:59,864
But he's such a pro, though.
923
00:39:59,864 --> 00:40:02,533
He knew all about
male chauvinists,
924
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:05,003
growing up there in Texas
with those good ole boys.
925
00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:06,971
Mr. Hart, if you touch that
phone, I'm gonna jerk it
926
00:40:06,971 --> 00:40:07,972
-clean out of the wall.
-[Dolly] And so,
927
00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:09,574
we had a real good time
928
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:10,742
-on the set.
-Whoa.
929
00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,076
-[grunts] I mean it.
-Oh!
930
00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:13,978
I know you think
this is all a joke.
931
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:16,247
[Mr. Hart indistinctly mumbling]
932
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,849
[Bruce] I credit
933
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,849
Colin with giving us
934
00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:20,218
the device of
kidnapping the boss.
935
00:40:20,218 --> 00:40:22,587
That structure
gave us the ability
936
00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:25,490
to put in the issues that
the feminist movement
937
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:28,226
and the 9to5 organization
wanted to see happen in real
life.
938
00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:30,000
-Like equal pay,
939
00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:30,695
-[typewriter clacking]
940
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,695
-Like equal pay,
941
00:40:30,695 --> 00:40:33,865
like who gets promoted, like maternity leave.
942
00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:35,366
Not to mention,
sexual harassment.
943
00:40:35,366 --> 00:40:38,169
[typewriter dings and clacks]
944
00:40:38,169 --> 00:40:41,105
The movie really pointed
out a lot things,
945
00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:43,341
a lot of issues that needed to
be dealt with.
946
00:40:43,341 --> 00:40:47,011
And the fact that it was what
it was at that time,
947
00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:50,748
you know, it's almost like
a protest movie of a sort.
948
00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:52,684
[women chanting]
949
00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:52,684
♪ Join us now! ♪
950
00:40:52,684 --> 00:40:56,587
♪ Sisterhood is
powerful! Join us now! ♪
951
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,424
-♪ Sisterhood is powerful!
952
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,424
♪ -[Zoe] Second-wave
953
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,424
American feminism
954
00:40:59,424 --> 00:41:04,028
started in the '60s alongside
the civil rights movement.
955
00:41:04,028 --> 00:41:08,433
Women were saying, "I want
equity, I want parity,
956
00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:12,203
I want equality, I want
equal rights under the law."
957
00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:14,539
[reporter] "Join us now.
Sisterhood is powerful."
958
00:41:14,539 --> 00:41:17,575
The battle cry of the
women's liberation movement,
959
00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:20,144
to protest against all
kinds of discrimination,
960
00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:23,414
which they say they suffer in
a world run largely by men.
961
00:41:23,414 --> 00:41:25,249
[women chanting] ♪ Free our
sisters! Free ourselves! ♪
962
00:41:25,249 --> 00:41:27,719
♪ Free our sisters!
Free ourselves ♪
963
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,120
-♪ Free our sisters! ♪
-[Zoe] We were on the upswing
964
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,091
of human right, and it was all
gonna turn out great.
965
00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:35,960
We were on the road to right.
966
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,397
To morality and ethics
and civil rights.
967
00:41:39,397 --> 00:41:43,468
[Rita] I thought that feminists
were extreme
968
00:41:43,468 --> 00:41:47,839
and terribly embarrassing
and pushy and aggressive.
969
00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:52,143
And I could not conceive of
myself ever saying publicly,
970
00:41:52,143 --> 00:41:54,679
"I don't deserve this
terrible treatment."
971
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:55,947
I didn't think it was
terrible treatment.
972
00:41:55,947 --> 00:41:57,482
I thought it was--
that was the norm.
973
00:41:57,482 --> 00:41:58,950
[suspenseful music]
974
00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:01,319
[Karen] By the late '70s,
975
00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:04,322
there was a huge backlash
against the women's movement,
976
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:07,625
and "feminism" was a hot word.
977
00:42:07,625 --> 00:42:09,360
The Equal Rights Amendment
978
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,165
will die 16 months from Tuesday.
979
00:42:14,499 --> 00:42:18,536
[Karen] There were forces that
would take the language of
feminism,
980
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:23,374
and it was used as a weapon
against women's equality.
981
00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,877
We wanted to sidestep that.
982
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:29,814
[melancholic music]
983
00:42:29,814 --> 00:42:32,283
[Ellen] Many 9to5 members
would join the organization
saying,
984
00:42:32,283 --> 00:42:34,852
"I'm not a feminist."
985
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:36,821
I don't understand what women's
lib is, anyway.
986
00:42:36,821 --> 00:42:40,525
Women are becoming less women.
987
00:42:40,525 --> 00:42:43,227
I wanna be a woman, I wanna be
treated like a woman and
feminine,
988
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:46,631
and the way we
always were treated.
989
00:42:46,631 --> 00:42:49,500
"But I believe in fair pay, I
believe in women's equality."
990
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,670
Well, pay could be better, yes.
991
00:42:54,205 --> 00:42:57,675
[Jane] In 9 to 5, we
were drilling down into the
992
00:42:54,205 --> 00:42:57,675
issues.
993
00:43:00,044 --> 00:43:03,748
We wanted to show how three
very different women came
together.
994
00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:06,684
It's lookin' good. But if we're
gonna do this,
995
00:43:06,684 --> 00:43:09,253
why don't we make changes
that really count?
996
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:12,590
There was a point at
which the women said,
997
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,326
"We're just gonna take over! We
can do it better. We're doing
it, anyway.
998
00:43:15,326 --> 00:43:18,062
We're not given the credit or
the pay, but we're doing it.
999
00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:20,665
This guy doesn't know what
the hell he's doing.
1000
00:43:20,665 --> 00:43:22,400
If it wasn't for Violet,
he'd run the thing
1001
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,169
into the ground." And so,
they just took over.
1002
00:43:25,169 --> 00:43:27,004
-Hold it right there.
-[door opens]
1003
00:43:27,939 --> 00:43:30,374
My God, you're as
crazy as the other two.
1004
00:43:30,374 --> 00:43:32,944
Not that feminism means that
women have to take over,
1005
00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:35,913
but it means coming
into your own,
1006
00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:39,450
it means having agency.
1007
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:43,454
The women began to feel they had
agency over their jobs,
1008
00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:45,056
their workplace,
and their lives.
1009
00:43:45,056 --> 00:43:46,457
[gentle music]
1010
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,926
[Lily] I admired Jane.
1011
00:43:48,926 --> 00:43:52,396
I didn't think she was a radical
feminist by any means.
1012
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:55,533
But I knew her pretty well
1013
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:55,533
from her movies,
1014
00:43:55,533 --> 00:43:58,269
her earlier movies,
1015
00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:02,273
gossip sheets, and
movie magazines.
1016
00:44:02,273 --> 00:44:04,775
But she certainly was a,
1017
00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:08,446
a person of consciousness
and awareness.
1018
00:44:08,446 --> 00:44:10,781
[Bruce] Jane was, by this time,
a major movie star
1019
00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:13,584
when we were making
1020
00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:13,584
the movie 9 to 5.
1021
00:44:14,051 --> 00:44:17,455
And one of the things she had
developed as an actress
1022
00:44:17,455 --> 00:44:23,728
was the relationship between
the costumes and the actress,
1023
00:44:23,728 --> 00:44:25,963
being able to
develop a character
1024
00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:28,966
who's got a whole backstory.
1025
00:44:28,966 --> 00:44:33,571
Costumes are always very
important to an actor,
1026
00:44:33,571 --> 00:44:38,943
and Ann Roth is the
quintessential actor's
costumier.
1027
00:44:38,943 --> 00:44:41,612
[Ann] I had worked
1028
00:44:38,943 --> 00:44:41,612
with Jane on Klute
1029
00:44:41,612 --> 00:44:44,982
and Jane is the
consummate actor.
1030
00:44:44,982 --> 00:44:48,452
I was most interested
in making them
1031
00:44:48,452 --> 00:44:52,490
look like working girls
who punched a time clock.
1032
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:55,660
Very normal. The kind of women
1033
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:57,862
that you would see
1034
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:57,862
in Life Magazine,
1035
00:44:57,862 --> 00:44:59,964
not Mademoiselle,
not Vogue.
1036
00:44:59,964 --> 00:45:03,000
-[Violet] Is that her?
-[man] Yes.
1037
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,168
We're gonna need a special
locker for the hat.
1038
00:45:04,168 --> 00:45:06,170
[elevator dings]
1039
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:09,006
You figure out each
one of those women,
1040
00:45:09,006 --> 00:45:11,609
where she comes from,
where she lives,
1041
00:45:11,609 --> 00:45:13,678
how much she spends
on her clothes.
1042
00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:16,280
And they should look real.
1043
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,550
Although, of course, Dolly was
expected to be Dolly.
1044
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:22,286
I will soitenly tell him, Roz.
1045
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,657
[Bruce] Everything with the
costumes was to underscore
1046
00:45:26,657 --> 00:45:29,226
that these three very
different characters
1047
00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:31,963
would come across as
three smart girls,
1048
00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:34,699
and I think it paid
off in the film.
1049
00:45:35,399 --> 00:45:37,301
[young Dolly] But I love the
character that Jane played,
1050
00:45:37,301 --> 00:45:39,203
because oddly enough,
1051
00:45:39,203 --> 00:45:42,840
I saw in that character
a great deal of you,
1052
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,042
of another side of Jane that,
that people don't see all the
time.
1053
00:45:45,042 --> 00:45:47,345
She's very outspoken as a rule,
1054
00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:50,548
and people think sometimes,
you know, even hard.
1055
00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:54,852
But there was this sweet,
gentle little girl side in Jane
1056
00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:58,222
that I think is, is
so sweet and loveable.
1057
00:45:58,222 --> 00:46:01,826
And that was one of the big
surprises, you know, in working
with, with her.
1058
00:46:01,826 --> 00:46:04,328
This particular trip I've spent
talking about boobs
1059
00:46:04,328 --> 00:46:06,897
and, uh, and how
I deal with Jane
1060
00:46:06,897 --> 00:46:09,166
-and what my folks think about
Jane... -[laughter]
1061
00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:12,203
...and what the south thinks
about me being friends with
Jane,
1062
00:46:12,203 --> 00:46:13,904
-but, you know, if we had
agreed to do it-- -[laughter]
1063
00:46:13,904 --> 00:46:15,106
-[cross talk]
-I can't believe it, can you?
1064
00:46:15,106 --> 00:46:15,906
[Dolly] You wouldn't
believe the things
1065
00:46:15,906 --> 00:46:17,508
they're asking me, honestly.
1066
00:46:17,508 --> 00:46:18,542
-[cross talk]
-I'm dumbfounded.
1067
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,011
...she reappeared three ro--
1068
00:46:20,011 --> 00:46:21,278
Well, I'm just
saying, I, you know,
1069
00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:23,047
-and I've said, you
know-- -[laughter]
1070
00:46:23,047 --> 00:46:23,848
[Dolly] The three
of us were so
1071
00:46:23,848 --> 00:46:25,716
completely different,
1072
00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:27,251
-but we were so
connected. -Wait--
1073
00:46:27,251 --> 00:46:28,586
-I forgot my line.
-That's all right--
1074
00:46:28,586 --> 00:46:29,920
[Dolly] We really respected
1075
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,422
and admired each other
1076
00:46:31,422 --> 00:46:33,591
for our own beliefs
1077
00:46:33,591 --> 00:46:34,925
and for our own
principles and values,
1078
00:46:34,925 --> 00:46:36,560
and it really showed on screen,
1079
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,595
'cause we really
liked each other.
1080
00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:39,230
Like our characters,
1081
00:46:39,230 --> 00:46:42,199
we were, at that
time, very smart gals,
1082
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,101
proud that we were accomplishing
all these things,
1083
00:46:44,101 --> 00:46:45,469
being strong women.
1084
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:48,606
-How's Lily?
-[laughs]
1085
00:46:48,606 --> 00:46:50,775
-[beeps] -[Jane] Dolly, Lily,
and I
1086
00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:52,710
are kind of cool.
1087
00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:52,710
[chuckles] I don't know,
1088
00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:52,710
we're fun.
1089
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:55,446
Wow. I thought I
have a V-8. [laughs]
1090
00:46:55,446 --> 00:46:56,647
[Jane] And so, when you get
the three of us together...
1091
00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:59,050
[laughter]
1092
00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:01,318
-...it's even funner.
-Wait. No. W-- wait.
1093
00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:03,254
-[laughing] -No, you're
hysterical. Now, stop it,
Violet.
1094
00:47:03,254 --> 00:47:05,790
-You're completely hysterical.
Calm down. -I can't help it.
1095
00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:08,626
-I really admire Dolly.
-Violet, honey? Could you--
1096
00:47:08,626 --> 00:47:10,928
-[laughter]
-[Jane] It's not just the things
1097
00:47:10,928 --> 00:47:12,730
that you know about
her, but she's got
1098
00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:15,800
a very deep side to her.
1099
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,803
Very perceptive, very
smart, and playful.
1100
00:47:18,803 --> 00:47:21,138
-[laughter]
-[beeps]
1101
00:47:21,138 --> 00:47:23,808
Do-- what's green and smell like
Miss Piggy, Judy?
1102
00:47:23,808 --> 00:47:25,810
-[laughing] No!
-[laughter]
1103
00:47:25,810 --> 00:47:27,411
Kermit's finger. Look at that.
1104
00:47:27,411 --> 00:47:29,480
-[laughter and cross talk]
-[beeps]
1105
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,816
When Jane and I first started
working with her,
1106
00:47:31,816 --> 00:47:34,485
it was just astonishing,
especially for Dabney.
1107
00:47:34,485 --> 00:47:37,154
Aw, that wasn't so bad, was it?
1108
00:47:37,154 --> 00:47:39,623
-[Lily] Because Dolly's
figure... -No.
1109
00:47:39,623 --> 00:47:42,660
...is out of the scale of human
proportions.
1110
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:45,429
Jane and I would be turning, we
go, "Oh, Dolly! I'm so sorry."
1111
00:47:45,429 --> 00:47:48,365
Her head would be way back here.
And a couple times,
1112
00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:52,803
we did, like, have a
collision with Dolly.
1113
00:47:52,803 --> 00:47:55,172
Have you always been, um,
1114
00:47:57,208 --> 00:48:00,778
uh, you know, well-endowed?
I mean, even in school
1115
00:48:00,778 --> 00:48:02,546
were you like that?
1116
00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:04,148
Yeah, I couldn't
leave them home.
1117
00:48:04,148 --> 00:48:07,551
[crowd laughing]
1118
00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:11,956
♪ Workin' nine to five what
a way to make a livin' ♪
1119
00:48:11,956 --> 00:48:16,160
-♪ Barely gettin' by... ♪
1120
00:48:11,956 --> 00:48:16,160
-I said to Jane,
1121
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,029
"Yes, I would love to do this
movie, under one condition.
1122
00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:21,532
I get to write the theme song
and sing it."
1123
00:48:21,532 --> 00:48:23,534
That was part of my deal.
1124
00:48:23,534 --> 00:48:25,703
And she said,
"Well, fair enough."
1125
00:48:25,703 --> 00:48:27,571
♪ ...nine to five ♪
1126
00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:29,306
[Nicholas] We were shooting
on the Fox lot,
1127
00:48:29,306 --> 00:48:33,043
and one day, I was
walking to the stage,
1128
00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:37,148
and it was Dolly's day off,
but Dolly had come to the set
1129
00:48:37,148 --> 00:48:40,050
and she was in the, uh,
teamster's car, she's in the
back seat,
1130
00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:42,052
and she had the window down and
she said, "Nicholas,
1131
00:48:42,052 --> 00:48:44,355
come over here, come over here!"
And I went, "Oh, hi, Dolly."
1132
00:48:44,355 --> 00:48:46,991
And I went over there, and
she had her guitar.
1133
00:48:46,991 --> 00:48:49,059
And she is, "Listen to
this. What do you think?"
1134
00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:51,595
-Yeah, I-- I'll start it now.
Yeah. -She wrote it pretty much.
1135
00:48:51,595 --> 00:48:53,731
-I mean, you guys, you guys--
-Perfectly, but we know--
1136
00:48:53,731 --> 00:48:56,167
Uh, yeah. Don't start
until I point a--
1137
00:48:56,167 --> 00:49:00,671
-an accusing finger, okay? So,
it goes-- -[throats clearing]
1138
00:49:00,671 --> 00:49:05,342
-♪ I'm... ♪ -♪ Workin' nine
to five what a way to make a
livin' ♪
1139
00:49:05,342 --> 00:49:08,679
♪ Barely gettin'
by it's all... ♪
1140
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,080
[young Dolly] We recorded
this last week, and we had
1141
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,516
all the secretaries
come on set,
1142
00:49:12,516 --> 00:49:14,685
and Jane and Lily come over,
and we did, like, a
sing-along.
1143
00:49:14,685 --> 00:49:20,591
♪ ...it's enough to drive
you crazy if you let it ♪
1144
00:49:20,591 --> 00:49:24,228
-♪ Nine to five for service
and devotion... ♪
-[laughing]
1145
00:49:24,228 --> 00:49:26,063
♪ Nine to five ♪
1146
00:49:26,063 --> 00:49:28,132
And she was clicking
with her fingernails
1147
00:49:28,132 --> 00:49:30,201
and everything. I
said, "What's that?"
1148
00:49:30,201 --> 00:49:31,602
And she said, "I just wrote
that for the film.
1149
00:49:31,602 --> 00:49:33,637
Do you think it's any good?"
1150
00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:35,139
I said, "I've only
heard 20 seconds,
1151
00:49:35,139 --> 00:49:36,373
but it's a hit, Dolly."
1152
00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:38,742
[fingernails clicking]
1153
00:49:38,742 --> 00:49:40,878
That's how she said
she wrote "9 to 5."
1154
00:49:42,112 --> 00:49:44,281
I'm not very good
at that either.
1155
00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:46,984
Just, "Do you think I should
play it for Jane and Colin?"
1156
00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:49,620
"Yes!" So, I think
I might've been
1157
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:51,956
the first person to
ever hear that song.
1158
00:49:51,956 --> 00:49:54,124
[Lily] I said to Bruce
Gilbert and Jane,
1159
00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:56,627
"If this movie is not a big hit,
this song will be.
1160
00:49:56,627 --> 00:49:58,062
It will make us a hit."
1161
00:49:58,062 --> 00:50:00,598
[upbeat music]
1162
00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,634
[Bruce] 9 to 5 was
1163
00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,634
released in December of 1980.
1164
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:10,407
Obviously, we were
not a Christmas movie.
1165
00:50:10,407 --> 00:50:13,811
So, there was certainly some
trepidation from the studio
1166
00:50:13,811 --> 00:50:16,647
about whether this would be
a very popular film.
1167
00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:18,782
And there were a lot
of other comedies
1168
00:50:18,782 --> 00:50:20,951
being released at
the exact same time.
1169
00:50:20,951 --> 00:50:24,255
I sentence you to 125 years.
1170
00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:26,156
[yelling] What? What?
1171
00:50:26,156 --> 00:50:27,658
[loud thuds]
1172
00:50:27,658 --> 00:50:30,127
Have you got the right case?
1173
00:50:30,127 --> 00:50:32,930
[Dolly] I'm sure that Jane was
really sweating it,
1174
00:50:32,930 --> 00:50:36,166
hoping that she was right,
hoping that it would do well,
1175
00:50:36,166 --> 00:50:38,769
but I just remember thinkin',
"This could go either way."
1176
00:50:38,769 --> 00:50:41,305
[camera shutters clicking]
1177
00:50:41,305 --> 00:50:43,641
[reporter] Another major movie
premiere here in Hollywood.
1178
00:50:43,641 --> 00:50:45,943
Tonight, it's 9 to 5,
1179
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the movie that's
starring Lily Tomlin,
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Jane Fonda, and Dolly Parton,
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who up until tonight has
been known as a singing star.
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-She steals the movie. She's--
absolutely. -Does she--
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She's absolutely wonderful.
She's a natural.
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[Ellen] The movie also had it's
New York premiere,
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and we were sitting
in the audience.
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I remember Karen
squeezing my hand
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and just-- we were
just so thrilled.
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[Karen] We knew that we
couldn't do this on our own.
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And the glamour of Hollywood!
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Jane Fonda, Dolly Parton, and
Lily Tomlin had our backs now.
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-You look great tonight. How
does one go about choosing...
-Oh, thank you!
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...uh, what she wears to
her movie premiere?
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00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:26,250
Well, one just has
to have somebody
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make a couple of things a-- and
pick from 'em.
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And Ann Roth did this dress,
and I love white.
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[Lilly] We all went to see
it, and we were just floored
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with how accurate even
the comedy parts were.
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[Ellen] Jane was asked,
"Are you lighting a fire
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under the desks in the
offices of America?"
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And she said, "No.
Secretaries are lighting those
fires,
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and we are just
fanning the flames."
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[young Jane] We've shown it to a
lot of audiences and they just
roar.
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And men love it just
as much as women.
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I think it's gonna...
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-...it's gonna make a lot of
people very happy. -[laughter]
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[Roger] Unfortunately, this is
a comedy that's kind of dumb,
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where the three secretaries in
a giant corporation,
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and they are, of
course, the victims
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of rampaging corporate male
chauvinist piggism.
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-[chuckles] -But, uh, when it
doesn't get on its high horse
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and isn't trying to hit us
over the head with its message,
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the movie's great fun to watch.
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[upbeat rock music]
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[Bruce] 9 to 5 was the second
highest-grossing film,
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only coming in behind one of
the Star Wars films.
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And some critics had a
problem with the movie,
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but the important
thing is that 9 to 5
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became popular all
over the world.
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And 40 years later,
it's a classic film.
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As very earnest activists,
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we sometimes had a problem
with the comedy.
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00:52:57,574 --> 00:52:58,575
[upbeat suspenseful
music playing]
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-[shakily] Hi? -It was not
some... [sighs] po-faced
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feminist bangin' on.
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It was a group of
brilliant actors
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being funny and succeeding.
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I remember seeing the film
and going, "Oh, my goodness!
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I don't believe it.
They've done it."
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[Zoe] I'm hoping that the
women went to work that day
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and fantasized, "Now, I
wonder if we could get that
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attached to the ceiling."
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You know, you just don't know
what silliness
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they might've been
inspired to do,
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but they were emboldened...
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-[dings]
-[Mr. Hart screaming]
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00:53:38,315 --> 00:53:40,451
...because it was on screen
and it was fun.
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DoraLee! [indistinctly mumbles]
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[Lily] When we were
promoting the film,
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we were, uh, counseled by some
media person.
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00:53:52,029 --> 00:53:56,800
And he told us that we should
emphasize that it's a comedy.
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00:53:57,167 --> 00:53:59,837
The movie 9 to 5 is
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a message movie, uh,
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00:53:59,837 --> 00:54:01,705
a little heavy-handed,
in my estimation.
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00:54:01,705 --> 00:54:03,240
-Do ya think so? -Yeah, and I'm
a very active feminist.
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00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,375
-Uh-- -Oh.
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They must have known how certain
issues, uh, might be perceived.
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[mimicking woman] Phoenicia,
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last night, I saw 9 to 5,
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and let me tell you, it opened
my eyes to new horizons.
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I've taken enough
gaffe and enough crud
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around this place
for long enough.
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I've been a-- [stutters]
I've been a retiring person,
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I've tried to please everyone.
I've had a pleasant personality
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00:54:25,729 --> 00:54:27,598
under t-- under the
duress of it all,
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but believe me, things
are gonna change,
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and I'm gonna give the old
boss's plug a yank.
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[Rita] The film was giving
permission to women,
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who maybe were still reticent,
like myself.
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"Don't put with that."
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And a lot of women in America
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loved that message.
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[gentle music]
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[upbeat music playing]
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[reporter] And the
fabulous Dolly Parton,
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nominated in the
Best Song category
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for her composition,
"9 to 5."
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♪ Nine to five ♪
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[Dolly] I was
nominated for an Oscar
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for Best Song, and
that was a great honor.
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I'd been hoping and praying that
the song would be a hit and it
was.
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-♪ ...want to move ahead...
♪ -And the music video
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was very popular.
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-♪ ...to let me... ♪
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-[Karen] "9 to 5" became an
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anthem
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for the women's movement. So
she captured the individual
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trying to live her
life to the fullest.
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♪ They let you dream just
to watch you shatter ♪
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-♪ You're just a step...
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♪ -[Karen] "You're just a
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step
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on the bossman's ladder."
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And then, it's a
collective response
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when we realize that
we're in the same boat,
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-that's where we get our
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power. -[indistinct chatter]
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Anyone who is turned off by a
movie like this is possibly,
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uh, a little hung up somewhere,
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unless they could possibly
not-- uh, like the movie.
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00:55:44,107 --> 00:55:45,342
But if you are talking
about what I think you are,
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which is a, a chauvinistic type
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-of, uh, anti-ERA...
-[woman] Mm-hmm.
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...or anti-feminist, uh, uh,
uh, philosophy,
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if you are talking about that,
then I think that, uh,
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they may be a little hung up.
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[Zoe] Just imagine
all these secretaries
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going to this movie together!
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Maybe movies were
$2 at the time.
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And the secretaries, they are
the ones moving the office.
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They are the ones
taking the calls.
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They are the ones making
Mr. Hart look smart...
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-What? When?
-...when, in fact, he's a fool.
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-[sharp rustling]
-Holy shit.
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00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,283
Uh-- no, no! No, no problem.
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[Zoe] So, that's
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the breakout.
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That's the wonder
of this movie.
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Holy shit. There he is.
[chuckles nervously]
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[shakily] It's really emotional.
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00:56:34,958 --> 00:56:37,327
-[indistinct shouting]
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-The movie 9 to 5,
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00:56:37,327 --> 00:56:39,963
coming out when it did,
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00:56:39,963 --> 00:56:42,966
perfectly synced with the
Equal Rights Amendment.
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Many women now joining, who worked in offices,
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were inspired
by the film.
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So, remember, men, if
you come to work tomorrow
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and your secretary refuses to
do the filing,
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and then go home and
find that your wife
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has refused to do the cooking,
don't blame them.
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00:56:58,982 --> 00:57:02,019
Remember, you gave them
the vote 50 years ago.
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00:57:02,019 --> 00:57:05,489
This is Mike Scott, male
chauvinist. TV9, Eyewitness
News.
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00:57:05,489 --> 00:57:07,190
[light dramatic music]
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00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:08,892
[Zoe] Equal
Rights Amendment
1324
00:57:08,892 --> 00:57:13,363
was written in
1923 by Alice Paul.
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00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,065
-She was a Republican.
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00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,065
-[man] The Equal Rights
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00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,065
Amendment...
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[Zoe] The ERA was
an amendment to say,
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"You cannot discriminate between
men and women
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when it comes to things that are
ruled by the law."
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00:57:25,342 --> 00:57:27,110
It seemed obvious.
1332
00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:30,747
In almost every
Congress since 1923,
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there's been proposed
a constitutional amendment
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to guarantee equal
rights for women.
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00:57:35,185 --> 00:57:37,587
Well, today, it
finally won approval.
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00:57:37,587 --> 00:57:40,223
Proclaiming once and for all
that women have
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00:57:40,223 --> 00:57:42,693
all the same rights
as that other sex.
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00:57:42,693 --> 00:57:45,262
[Zoe] So, in 1971,
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there were hearings in Congress.
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00:57:48,031 --> 00:57:51,301
In 1972, it went out to the
states for ratification,
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and the requirement
was three fifths,
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00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:56,573
which would've been 38 states.
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00:57:56,573 --> 00:57:59,109
And they were given a deadline.
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00:57:59,109 --> 00:58:01,278
Virginia is the only
unratified state
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with elections this year.
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00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:05,415
When you vote next Tuesday,
you are not voting
1347
00:58:05,415 --> 00:58:06,983
for yourselves only,
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00:58:06,983 --> 00:58:09,119
you are voting for all of us.
1349
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:10,654
-[crowd cheering and clapping]
-The whole country
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is looking to
Virginia for a sign,
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a sign that the ERA can win.
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00:58:15,592 --> 00:58:17,294
The Equal Rights
Amendment will put women
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00:58:17,294 --> 00:58:19,763
where they've never been before.
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00:58:19,763 --> 00:58:21,798
In the constitution of the
United States of America.
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00:58:21,798 --> 00:58:24,000
[clapping and cheering increase]
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For more than four years,
no state has ratified
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00:58:28,438 --> 00:58:30,674
The Equal Rights Amendment. Now,
there's just a year left
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00:58:30,674 --> 00:58:32,843
to get the three more states
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00:58:32,843 --> 00:58:35,679
needed to reach the 38 required
for ratification,
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or the amendment will die.
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[dramatic music]
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[woman] Are you still working
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00:58:39,149 --> 00:58:41,985
actively for ERA?
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00:58:41,985 --> 00:58:44,788
Are you making speeches
on behalf of ERA?
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00:58:44,788 --> 00:58:46,790
Uh, I'm part of an organization
in California
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00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:48,992
that works primarily
on economic issues,
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00:58:48,992 --> 00:58:50,827
and that would certainly include
the Equal Rights Amendment,
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00:58:50,827 --> 00:58:53,196
but we deal, uh, essentially
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00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:56,666
with, um, the problems of
inflation and unemployment.
1370
00:58:56,666 --> 00:58:59,169
-[woman] Mm-hmm.
-Economic issues.
1371
00:59:00,303 --> 00:59:03,273
We ask that you would give us
your divine wisdom.
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00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:05,108
[reporter] Opposing both the
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00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:05,108
state and the federal
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00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:05,108
amendment
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00:59:05,108 --> 00:59:09,279
are women like these,
members of STOP ERA.
1376
00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:12,182
According to them, the
ERA is anti-family,
1377
00:59:12,182 --> 00:59:14,851
anti-God, a
government intrusion
1378
00:59:14,851 --> 00:59:16,987
that will remove the
legal protections
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00:59:16,987 --> 00:59:19,389
that have shaped women's
lives for centuries.
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00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:21,858
[Sonia] This society has
said to us, and said to me,
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00:59:21,858 --> 00:59:23,827
"Being a wife and a mother
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00:59:23,827 --> 00:59:26,730
is the most important
thing you can do."
1383
00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:28,698
And then, when we
do it for 20 years,
1384
00:59:28,698 --> 00:59:30,133
and my husband walks out,
1385
00:59:30,133 --> 00:59:32,169
decides he's not
gonna pay anything,
1386
00:59:32,169 --> 00:59:34,070
and certainly not enough to
support the children,
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00:59:34,070 --> 00:59:36,039
what do I find out this
society is gonna do for me?
1388
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,642
Nothing. I have no
hospitalization,
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00:59:38,642 --> 00:59:41,211
I have no pension, I have no
social security,
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00:59:41,211 --> 00:59:44,347
I have nothing at all.
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00:59:44,347 --> 00:59:46,983
[Phyllis] Aren't we lucky that
we don't have the Equal Rights
Amendment?
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00:59:46,983 --> 00:59:49,753
Else that would have to apply to
women in the draft
1393
00:59:49,753 --> 00:59:52,389
and in combat and in everything
to do with the military
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00:59:52,389 --> 00:59:56,159
since the military is all
a matter of federal law.
1395
00:59:56,159 --> 01:00:00,664
-I ask you to... -STOP ERA is a
front for great corporations
1396
01:00:00,664 --> 01:00:03,200
who wou-- to whom it
would be devastating
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01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,570
if women had even equal pay
for equal work in this country.
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01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:08,738
-The insurance company-- -But,
but people from STOP ERA will
say,
1399
01:00:08,738 --> 01:00:11,107
"But women are
already protected."
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01:00:12,075 --> 01:00:13,910
-Well, uh-- -As far as equal pay
is concerned.
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01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:16,079
Oh, that's just nonsense.
1402
01:00:16,713 --> 01:00:18,381
-[young Jane] I was recently
down in Roanoke Rapids... -[man]
Mm.
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01:00:18,381 --> 01:00:20,250
...North Carolina, visiting
some of the workers there,
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01:00:20,250 --> 01:00:22,419
and they can't afford
to go to movies.
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01:00:22,419 --> 01:00:24,454
Not only 'cause the ticket
prices are so high,
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01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:26,389
-but, you know, babysitters,
transportation... -[man] Yes.
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01:00:26,389 --> 01:00:28,625
...parking, all that. And
those are the kind of people
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01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:32,295
that I'd also like
to, to be working for.
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01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:35,365
That is true. Uh, there's still
a percentage of people who don't
get out
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01:00:35,365 --> 01:00:37,868
-to the movie theaters. -Yeah.
Uh, I wanna go into television.
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01:00:37,868 --> 01:00:40,070
I guess my main
motivation is to--
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01:00:40,070 --> 01:00:42,973
is to try to reach large
numbers of people.
1413
01:00:42,973 --> 01:00:45,308
-[alarm ringing]
-["9 to 5" by Dolly Parton]
1414
01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:51,915
[Bruce] After 9 to 5 came
1415
01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:51,915
out and it was so successful,
1416
01:00:51,915 --> 01:00:56,753
20th Century Fox Television
wanted a TV show spinoff of the
movie,
1417
01:00:56,753 --> 01:01:00,123
and we were very
open to that idea.
1418
01:01:00,123 --> 01:01:04,794
So, Jane and I became
executive producers.
1419
01:01:04,794 --> 01:01:07,130
[young Jane] Because they're
women, they're at the bottom of
the ladder.
1420
01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:09,933
They're rarely promoted. Uh,
they're discriminated against
1421
01:01:09,933 --> 01:01:11,835
in many different ways. And
they've always been ignored
1422
01:01:11,835 --> 01:01:13,770
by the traditional
labor movement.
1423
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:15,138
"You know, these broads,
you can't organize them."
1424
01:01:15,138 --> 01:01:17,574
Well, they're
organizing themselves.
1425
01:01:17,574 --> 01:01:20,810
And hopefully, with the movie
and with the television series,
1426
01:01:20,810 --> 01:01:24,314
-we'll give it a boost!
-Oh, the nerve of that man,
1427
01:01:24,314 --> 01:01:26,483
-threatening me--
-[Carol] We got a call
1428
01:01:26,483 --> 01:01:28,485
from Jane Fonda and she said,
1429
01:01:28,485 --> 01:01:31,821
"You know, we would like
someone from the organization
1430
01:01:31,821 --> 01:01:34,991
to come out and work with us on
the TV series."
1431
01:01:34,991 --> 01:01:39,162
To kind of make sure that the TV
show stayed true
1432
01:01:39,162 --> 01:01:42,432
to the principles that the
film had been so great about.
1433
01:01:42,432 --> 01:01:43,433
Now, who here knows how to type?
1434
01:01:43,433 --> 01:01:45,635
[crowd laughing]
1435
01:01:49,506 --> 01:01:51,374
Uh, excuse me?
1436
01:01:51,374 --> 01:01:53,843
Could you direct me
to Mr. Hart's office?
1437
01:01:54,344 --> 01:01:57,180
-Thank you.
-[Ellen] As the TV show went on,
1438
01:01:57,180 --> 01:02:00,350
it strayed from the message of
our organization.
1439
01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:03,320
A lot of times, I noticed that
you would be siding with the
boss.
1440
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,188
"Oh, poor boss has to put up
1441
01:02:05,188 --> 01:02:08,525
with such a silly creature as
the secretary."
1442
01:02:08,525 --> 01:02:09,693
[indistinct singing]
1443
01:02:09,693 --> 01:02:10,827
The television executives,
1444
01:02:10,827 --> 01:02:11,995
who all had their opinions,
1445
01:02:11,995 --> 01:02:13,229
and there were several...
1446
01:02:13,229 --> 01:02:14,698
Just one of the boys.
1447
01:02:14,698 --> 01:02:16,166
...and then you had
these executives
1448
01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:18,234
from the network,
much more meddling.
1449
01:02:18,234 --> 01:02:21,071
That was a shock to me.
1450
01:02:21,071 --> 01:02:24,407
-Call me stupid, I don't know
where this goes. -[crowd
laughing]
1451
01:02:24,407 --> 01:02:27,544
[Bruce] It became obvious
that we were not capturing
1452
01:02:27,544 --> 01:02:30,000
the movie 9 to 5.
1453
01:02:27,544 --> 01:02:30,714
the flavor of
1454
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,714
the movie 9 to 5.
1455
01:02:30,714 --> 01:02:33,850
It was, uh, a--
1456
01:02:34,217 --> 01:02:38,355
just a tremendous burden on me,
psychologically.
1457
01:02:38,355 --> 01:02:40,357
Okay, party's over. Don't you
girls have anything to do?
1458
01:02:40,357 --> 01:02:43,159
[Jane] I wasn't very involved...
1459
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:48,064
...in that... part of it.
1460
01:02:48,064 --> 01:02:51,434
And I, I... I don't know
if it would've worked more
1461
01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:54,037
if I had been, I don't know.
1462
01:02:54,037 --> 01:02:57,207
Jane and I decided to take
our names off of the show,
1463
01:02:57,207 --> 01:03:00,744
because it no longer
reflected our input.
1464
01:03:01,344 --> 01:03:02,612
[light suspenseful music]
1465
01:03:02,912 --> 01:03:07,550
So, we advance... [chuckles]
and we go back,
1466
01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:09,786
and we advance, and we go back.
1467
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:12,889
The deadline for the ERA
1468
01:03:12,889 --> 01:03:17,227
had been extended
to June 30th, 1982.
1469
01:03:17,227 --> 01:03:18,862
[reporter 1] Local
ERA supporters
1470
01:03:18,862 --> 01:03:21,031
say they will key their efforts
in Illinois,
1471
01:03:21,031 --> 01:03:23,266
Florida, Mississippi,
and North Carolina,
1472
01:03:23,266 --> 01:03:25,969
four states they
feel can be persuaded
1473
01:03:25,969 --> 01:03:28,638
to ratify the amendment, or
the proposal will die.
1474
01:03:28,638 --> 01:03:30,540
ERA will not pass
in this century.
1475
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:31,975
[indistinct shouting] ...ERA!
1476
01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:33,543
[Zoe] So, we backed it up
1477
01:03:33,543 --> 01:03:36,579
and we started fasting 40 days
1478
01:03:36,579 --> 01:03:38,648
before that deadline.
1479
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,550
[reporter 2] Seven
1480
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,550
women have fasted now
1481
01:03:40,550 --> 01:03:43,253
for 22 days. Women who
chained themselves together,
1482
01:03:43,253 --> 01:03:45,422
blocking the Senate,
were removed.
1483
01:03:45,422 --> 01:03:47,424
[reporter 3] One of the
fasters, Sonia Johnson,
1484
01:03:47,424 --> 01:03:50,994
is now using a wheelchair,
because she feels so weak.
1485
01:03:50,994 --> 01:03:54,164
But all of the women say
there are no plans to stop
now.
1486
01:03:54,164 --> 01:03:56,999
[Zoe] We fasted only on water.
1487
01:03:57,767 --> 01:04:00,336
And had the time of our lives.
1488
01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:05,408
ERA supporters conceded
defeat this week,
1489
01:04:05,408 --> 01:04:08,945
falling three states short
of the 38 needed to ratify.
1490
01:04:08,945 --> 01:04:11,114
Opponents to the amendment are
celebrating tonight.
1491
01:04:11,114 --> 01:04:12,649
-[ethereal music]
1492
01:04:11,114 --> 01:04:12,649
-♪ ...America...♪
1493
01:04:12,649 --> 01:04:15,085
[crowd clapping and cheering]
1494
01:04:15,085 --> 01:04:17,420
[Zoe] Of course, I was
willing to die for the ERA.
1495
01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:19,789
Of course, I'm willing to die
for equality.
1496
01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:21,257
Of course, that's
what activists do.
1497
01:04:21,257 --> 01:04:24,527
[dramatic music]
1498
01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:29,966
Hey, we have a two o'clock
campus tour you can take.
1499
01:04:29,966 --> 01:04:32,035
[Karen] Ultimately, at the end
of the 1980s,
1500
01:04:32,035 --> 01:04:34,337
corporate America
decided, "Actually,
1501
01:04:34,337 --> 01:04:37,140
they're gonna have to let
women in on the game,"
1502
01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:40,276
and began to let
women in as managers
1503
01:04:40,276 --> 01:04:42,779
and supervisors
and professionals
1504
01:04:42,779 --> 01:04:44,347
in numbers that we've
never seen before.
1505
01:04:44,347 --> 01:04:47,050
[indistinct chatter]
1506
01:04:51,788 --> 01:04:53,289
[dramatic music]
1507
01:04:55,291 --> 01:04:57,827
[reporter 1] Shocking charges
of sexual harassment.
1508
01:04:57,827 --> 01:05:00,530
The judge pleads
"not guilty."
1509
01:05:00,530 --> 01:05:04,000
Someone's lying under
oath, under the dome.
1510
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,337
I have not said
or done the things
1511
01:05:07,337 --> 01:05:09,973
that Anita Hill has alleged.
1512
01:05:09,973 --> 01:05:11,641
After a brief
discussion of work,
1513
01:05:11,641 --> 01:05:13,843
he would turn the conversation
1514
01:05:13,843 --> 01:05:17,147
to a discussion
of sexual matters.
1515
01:05:17,147 --> 01:05:20,750
His conversations
were very vivid.
1516
01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:25,355
[Karen] Suddenly, sexual
harassment emerged as a popular
issue.
1517
01:05:25,355 --> 01:05:27,323
These kinds of experiences
1518
01:05:27,323 --> 01:05:29,993
were taking place
across the country,
1519
01:05:29,993 --> 01:05:32,395
and so, women were
beginning to realize
1520
01:05:32,395 --> 01:05:36,533
that it's about power
in the workplace,
1521
01:05:36,533 --> 01:05:41,938
then it was kind of just part of
this whole morass of indignities
1522
01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:43,540
that women were just beginning
to sort through.
1523
01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:46,009
[crowd clapping and cheering]
1524
01:05:46,009 --> 01:05:48,111
[reporter 2] A year since the Hill Thomas hearings,
1525
01:05:48,111 --> 01:05:49,879
women candidates running
for the Senate this year
1526
01:05:49,879 --> 01:05:52,282
in unprecedented numbers.
1527
01:05:52,282 --> 01:05:54,384
[reporter 3] Carol Moseley
1528
01:05:52,282 --> 01:05:54,384
Braun added to gains
1529
01:05:54,384 --> 01:05:56,686
made in what's being called,
"The Year of the Woman."
1530
01:05:56,686 --> 01:05:58,354
[woman] Walking up those steps
1531
01:05:58,354 --> 01:06:00,590
to the United States Senate,
1532
01:06:00,590 --> 01:06:03,059
knocking on the
door, and it opens,
1533
01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:06,896
and we all come inside,
all of us, together!
1534
01:06:06,896 --> 01:06:09,432
[Fatima] And it was Anita Hill.
1535
01:06:09,432 --> 01:06:14,404
And the outrage that drove more
women to Congress.
1536
01:06:14,404 --> 01:06:17,907
And now, they're fighting
for change at a policy level,
1537
01:06:17,907 --> 01:06:21,277
including equal
pay and fair wages.
1538
01:06:21,277 --> 01:06:23,279
[indistinct chatter]
1539
01:06:24,881 --> 01:06:28,318
[Lilly] I went to work
February 5th, 1979,
1540
01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:30,153
for Goodyear Tire & Rubber in
Gadsden, Alabama.
1541
01:06:32,255 --> 01:06:36,659
It was the same year the 9
to 5 movie was being made.
1542
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,761
And later on, I became
my area manager,
1543
01:06:38,761 --> 01:06:41,264
and some of the men resented me.
1544
01:06:42,232 --> 01:06:46,803
They said, um, "We've never
taken orders from a woman."
1545
01:06:46,803 --> 01:06:50,106
They made my job
really difficult
1546
01:06:50,106 --> 01:06:52,575
and there were several times
I was concerned for my life.
1547
01:06:52,575 --> 01:06:55,011
[light ominous music]
1548
01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:58,848
But I'd think back
about the movie.
1549
01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:02,085
Well, I say we hire a couple of
wranglers to go upstairs and
beat the shit out of him.
1550
01:07:02,085 --> 01:07:06,189
[Lilly] And Jane and Dolly
and Lily encouraged me.
1551
01:07:06,189 --> 01:07:10,326
In the 19 years that I worked at
Goodyear as a supervisor,
1552
01:07:10,326 --> 01:07:12,929
no one ever discussed their pay.
1553
01:07:12,929 --> 01:07:15,765
I started suspecting
1554
01:07:15,765 --> 01:07:18,868
I was not getting what the men
were getting.
1555
01:07:18,868 --> 01:07:22,438
We four supervisors had
the exact same job,
1556
01:07:22,438 --> 01:07:24,841
just a different shift.
1557
01:07:24,841 --> 01:07:28,278
And their pay was
almost $6000 a month,
1558
01:07:28,278 --> 01:07:30,280
and that's base pay,
1559
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,616
and mine was just a
little over three.
1560
01:07:33,616 --> 01:07:37,353
[Zoe] Imagine, after
working 20 years,
1561
01:07:37,353 --> 01:07:42,859
that she found out that this man
is doing the same job as she
did,
1562
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,962
was getting paid two times more,
1563
01:07:45,962 --> 01:07:47,664
which affected his
social security,
1564
01:07:47,664 --> 01:07:50,667
which affected his, his pension,
1565
01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:54,237
which affected his
ability to retire.
1566
01:07:54,237 --> 01:07:57,140
[Lilly] My daughter and son
were still going to college,
1567
01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:00,810
and I had a mortgage to pay,
and I had to pay my bills.
1568
01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,980
[reporter 1] Ledbetter sued,
but the US Supreme Court threw
1569
01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,980
out her case,
1570
01:08:03,980 --> 01:08:05,982
saying she filed her
lawsuit too late.
1571
01:08:05,982 --> 01:08:07,917
[Lilly] Those five justices,
1572
01:08:07,917 --> 01:08:10,353
they didn't only rule against
Lilly Ledbetter,
1573
01:08:10,353 --> 01:08:15,024
they ruled against every family
across this nation.
1574
01:08:15,024 --> 01:08:18,528
[Fatima] So, in 2009, we
saw a huge change happen.
1575
01:08:18,528 --> 01:08:23,232
It was a mix of law and policy
change that was happening,
1576
01:08:23,232 --> 01:08:26,869
because in 2007, when the
Supreme Court got it wrong,
1577
01:08:26,869 --> 01:08:28,871
Justice Ginsburg wrote
a powerful dissent
1578
01:08:28,871 --> 01:08:31,407
that eventually changed the law.
1579
01:08:31,407 --> 01:08:33,910
First of all, it is fitting
1580
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:38,881
that the very first
bill that I sign...
1581
01:08:38,881 --> 01:08:42,118
...the Lilly Ledbetter
Fair Pay Restoration Act.
1582
01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:43,553
[crowd clapping and cheering]
1583
01:08:43,553 --> 01:08:45,355
Equal pay is by no means
1584
01:08:45,355 --> 01:08:47,290
just a women's issue.
1585
01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:49,525
It's a family issue.
1586
01:08:50,426 --> 01:08:52,895
[reporter 2] But Ledbetter
1587
01:08:50,426 --> 01:08:52,895
herself will never see a
1588
01:08:50,426 --> 01:08:52,895
dime
1589
01:08:52,895 --> 01:08:56,966
of the $200,000 in
lost salary she claims.
1590
01:08:56,966 --> 01:08:59,035
[woman] You lost your case,
but what did you win?
1591
01:08:59,035 --> 01:09:02,405
Something that money
could never buy.
1592
01:09:02,405 --> 01:09:06,142
♪ Workin' nine to five what
a way to make a livin' ♪
1593
01:09:06,142 --> 01:09:09,379
♪ Barely gettin' by ♪
1594
01:09:09,379 --> 01:09:13,049
[Dolly] I've always been saying,
"I don't chew my tobacco but
once,"
1595
01:09:13,049 --> 01:09:16,419
or some corny thing like that.
Meaning, "I don't like to go
back and do something again."
1596
01:09:16,419 --> 01:09:18,221
[crowd singing and clapping]
1597
01:09:20,590 --> 01:09:23,259
You know that better than me!
1598
01:09:23,259 --> 01:09:25,161
[Bob] There's a big trend in
the theater business,
1599
01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:28,064
taking successful movies and
turning them into musicals.
1600
01:09:28,064 --> 01:09:32,335
♪ Nine to five what a
way to make a livin'... ♪
1601
01:09:32,335 --> 01:09:35,304
The movie felt so dated
that it was kind of like,
1602
01:09:35,304 --> 01:09:39,509
"Why are we doing a revival
of this very dated movie?"
1603
01:09:39,509 --> 01:09:42,078
And then, realized that,
1604
01:09:42,078 --> 01:09:43,980
"We're not so far
off from this movie,
1605
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:47,917
these things are
still going on."
1606
01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:50,086
[Joe] I was thinking of the
message of the film and the
musical.
1607
01:09:50,086 --> 01:09:53,589
We were looking at it as a time
1608
01:09:53,589 --> 01:09:55,925
in our history
that we were past.
1609
01:09:55,925 --> 01:09:58,628
-In my memo-- -Did you hear what
I said? Fire the bitch.
1610
01:09:58,628 --> 01:10:00,163
And that's just not the case.
1611
01:10:00,163 --> 01:10:03,866
So, you need to
keep telling people,
1612
01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:08,938
"This is where we've come from.
This is where we've been. And
this is where we're at."
1613
01:10:08,938 --> 01:10:11,441
[woman] Are you surprised that
it's had this kind of-- you
know,
1614
01:10:11,441 --> 01:10:13,609
we're talking about 29 years,
this kind of response from all
generations.
1615
01:10:13,609 --> 01:10:15,945
-Well, I'm not-- I'm not really
surprised. No-- -No, no.
1616
01:10:15,945 --> 01:10:19,882
It's iconic. And partly, it's
because the issues,
1617
01:10:19,882 --> 01:10:23,453
the things that it speaks to are
universal and still very much
alive.
1618
01:10:23,453 --> 01:10:26,522
It's women emancipation.
1619
01:10:26,522 --> 01:10:29,792
Secondly, it's about women
wanting to kill their boss.
1620
01:10:29,792 --> 01:10:30,860
And third of all, I
know that everybody
1621
01:10:30,860 --> 01:10:32,962
in my company wants to kill me,
1622
01:10:32,962 --> 01:10:34,797
and they bought
multiple tickets.
1623
01:10:34,797 --> 01:10:36,799
I think if this, this
movie could survive,
1624
01:10:36,799 --> 01:10:38,901
this show could survive on just
my company.
1625
01:10:38,901 --> 01:10:40,970
[tense music playing]
1626
01:10:55,318 --> 01:10:57,420
[woman] Later, Harvey
Weinstein was accused
1627
01:10:57,420 --> 01:10:59,989
by several women of
sexual harassment,
1628
01:10:59,989 --> 01:11:02,158
energizing the
MeToo movement,
1629
01:11:02,158 --> 01:11:04,494
which quickly spread
around the world.
1630
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:07,930
[indistinct shouting]
1631
01:11:11,501 --> 01:11:14,203
[women shouting] No
means no! No means no!
1632
01:11:14,203 --> 01:11:19,175
When MeToo went viral, it was if
the earth shook.
1633
01:11:19,175 --> 01:11:22,345
-[crowd] MeToo.
MeToo-- -[woman] MeToo!
1634
01:11:22,345 --> 01:11:23,446
[women shouting] TimesUp!
1635
01:11:23,446 --> 01:11:25,748
[women chanting in French]
1636
01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:32,188
[chanting in Spanish]
1637
01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,296
[loud clanking and banging]
1638
01:11:42,865 --> 01:11:44,934
[women chanting] ♪ Stop the
violence! Stop the rape! ♪
1639
01:11:44,934 --> 01:11:47,203
♪ Rise up for the
women of the world! ♪
1640
01:11:47,203 --> 01:11:49,038
♪ For the women of
the world rise up! ♪
1641
01:11:49,038 --> 01:11:51,240
[Tarana] What we
represent by gathering
1642
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,076
and marching in the streets
is a living breathing reminder
1643
01:11:54,076 --> 01:11:57,113
that we are human
beings, not hashtags!
1644
01:11:57,113 --> 01:11:58,915
-[crowd cheering and clapping]
-[Ellen] Some people might be
surprised
1645
01:11:58,915 --> 01:12:02,084
by MeToo, TimesUp,
1646
01:12:02,084 --> 01:12:04,220
and the whole issue
of sexual harassment.
1647
01:12:04,220 --> 01:12:06,923
These are new slogans, but
they're not new issues.
1648
01:12:06,923 --> 01:12:09,892
[Jane] Now, women who speak
up about assault
1649
01:12:09,892 --> 01:12:14,263
and sexual harassment are taken
more seriously.
1650
01:12:14,263 --> 01:12:17,600
Um, I think people are realizing
that it's epidemic.
1651
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,102
Of course, it's rampant.
1652
01:12:20,102 --> 01:12:22,238
It's very-- but the
men are acculturated
1653
01:12:22,238 --> 01:12:24,941
by whatever forces
are near them.
1654
01:12:24,941 --> 01:12:26,776
Their fathers, their brothers,
their uncles,
1655
01:12:26,776 --> 01:12:28,945
kids at school, just
their own natural,
1656
01:12:28,945 --> 01:12:32,448
uh, a-- absorbing the-- the, uh,
1657
01:12:32,448 --> 01:12:35,651
whatever the entertainment puts
out-- Cartoons!
1658
01:12:35,651 --> 01:12:38,821
Now, I'm gonna
grab me some sweet.
1659
01:12:38,821 --> 01:12:41,958
No, Mr. Simpson, that's
sexual harassment!
1660
01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:44,961
If you keep it up, I'll yell so
loud, the whole country will
hear!
1661
01:12:44,961 --> 01:12:48,331
[laughing] With the man in
the White House... [laughs]
1662
01:12:48,331 --> 01:12:50,433
...not likely. [laughs]
1663
01:12:52,435 --> 01:12:55,271
I hope it's not a
real cultural shift,
1664
01:12:55,271 --> 01:12:58,941
that men feel like they don't
know how to behave around women.
1665
01:12:58,941 --> 01:13:02,144
You know, it's not hard. Like,
just don't be a jerk.
1666
01:13:02,144 --> 01:13:04,280
-Violet-- -[Amaya] Keep
your hands to yourself.
1667
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,349
No one else is
your property.
1668
01:13:06,349 --> 01:13:09,118
-Damn pretty too, if I might
add. -Thank you, sir.
1669
01:13:09,118 --> 01:13:10,386
You should see some of
the crones that have been
1670
01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:12,154
coming through here
lately, real pathetic.
1671
01:13:12,154 --> 01:13:14,290
[Amaya] Like the
1672
01:13:12,154 --> 01:13:14,290
boss in 9 to 5,
1673
01:13:14,290 --> 01:13:17,460
nobody thinks your inappropriate
jokes are funny.
1674
01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:21,664
I mean, a lot of it is just
being an adult, right? [laughs]
1675
01:13:21,664 --> 01:13:24,233
[Dolly] When the MeToo movement
started, I think it really
helped a lot.
1676
01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:26,502
It's given us a really
good opportunity
1677
01:13:26,502 --> 01:13:29,138
to make more, uh, corrections
1678
01:13:29,138 --> 01:13:32,408
and to just do more good things
for, for women especially,
1679
01:13:32,408 --> 01:13:34,810
'cause really, it's not a matter
of politics,
1680
01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:37,380
it's just downright fairness.
1681
01:13:37,380 --> 01:13:38,914
[Vanessa] It doesn't matter what
industry you're in,
1682
01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:41,817
it doesn't matter what
department you work for,
1683
01:13:41,817 --> 01:13:43,819
I know that we've held workshops
in the past
1684
01:13:43,819 --> 01:13:46,355
where assistants find out
that peers of theirs
1685
01:13:46,355 --> 01:13:49,892
are actually making double or
triple the money.
1686
01:13:49,892 --> 01:13:53,496
Here he is, with nowhere near
the years of experience,
1687
01:13:53,496 --> 01:13:57,099
no degree, and you're gonna
offer him $12,000 more.
1688
01:13:58,034 --> 01:14:00,336
An employee got upset because
we didn't get a bonus.
1689
01:14:00,336 --> 01:14:02,271
And so, he literally said
everybody's salary
1690
01:14:02,271 --> 01:14:05,041
in front of everybody.
And I found out,
1691
01:14:05,041 --> 01:14:07,209
not only was I the
lowest paid person,
1692
01:14:07,209 --> 01:14:11,080
but I was making
almost $17,000 less
1693
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,349
than the lowest paid
person on my team,
1694
01:14:13,349 --> 01:14:16,052
with the highest stats,
1695
01:14:16,052 --> 01:14:19,021
the highest customer retention,
all of that.
1696
01:14:19,588 --> 01:14:21,390
Humanity still has
a long way to go
1697
01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:23,059
in the fight for
gender equality.
1698
01:14:23,059 --> 01:14:24,527
This is according
to a new report
1699
01:14:24,527 --> 01:14:26,429
from the World Economic Forum.
1700
01:14:26,429 --> 01:14:29,965
It will take more than 200 years
1701
01:14:29,965 --> 01:14:33,936
to close the gender pay gap at
our current pays worldwide.
1702
01:14:34,370 --> 01:14:38,207
[Miranda] In America, Black
women are 61 cents to the dollar
1703
01:14:38,207 --> 01:14:40,976
in comparison to white male and
their counterparts.
1704
01:14:40,976 --> 01:14:44,380
So, we're still far behind
on that, on that pay grade.
1705
01:14:44,380 --> 01:14:47,717
[Yanira] For Latinas,
it's 54 cents
1706
01:14:47,717 --> 01:14:50,319
compared to a
non-Hispanic white man.
1707
01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:52,955
You might be a PhD,
1708
01:14:52,955 --> 01:14:55,324
and you will make
less as a Latina,
1709
01:14:56,058 --> 01:14:59,895
not only compared to white men,
but also white women.
1710
01:15:00,596 --> 01:15:03,232
[Tara] In the
1711
01:15:00,596 --> 01:15:03,232
United States today,
1712
01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:06,102
never mind when 9 to 5
1713
01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:06,102
was made, if someone like
1714
01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:06,102
Violet,
1715
01:15:06,102 --> 01:15:08,904
a single mother, was
working full-time
1716
01:15:08,904 --> 01:15:11,006
at the Federal minimum wage,
1717
01:15:11,006 --> 01:15:14,744
which it's still
$7.25 an hour...
1718
01:15:16,078 --> 01:15:20,149
Violet News-- Oh, come on kids!
No-- come on, no fighting!
1719
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:23,252
...she would earn
about $14,500 a year.
1720
01:15:25,488 --> 01:15:28,958
And she would be expected to,
um, pull up her bootstraps
1721
01:15:28,958 --> 01:15:32,828
and somehow feed four children
and pay for a car
1722
01:15:32,828 --> 01:15:35,831
and pay for clothes
to go to work.
1723
01:15:35,831 --> 01:15:38,601
Back then, getting a promotion
was a pipe dream.
1724
01:15:38,601 --> 01:15:40,970
We've got to do something. He
just can't treat people like
that.
1725
01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:44,106
[scoffs] "Do."
What's to do? Quit?
1726
01:15:44,106 --> 01:15:47,543
-Well, I can't quit.
-It's the same all over, anyway.
1727
01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:50,880
Well, look, couldn't we just all
get together and, and complain?
1728
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,215
-[laughs] Complain to who?
-Let's face it,
1729
01:15:53,215 --> 01:15:56,986
we're in a pink-collar ghetto.
Let's have another drink.
1730
01:15:56,986 --> 01:15:59,288
[Jane] It's worse today than it
was when we made 9 to 5,
1731
01:15:59,288 --> 01:16:01,991
because now, most of those women
1732
01:16:01,991 --> 01:16:06,796
would be hired by a contracting
company and subcontracted.
1733
01:16:06,796 --> 01:16:10,032
They may never see the boss.
1734
01:16:10,032 --> 01:16:13,569
Where do you go to complain when
you're part of the gig economy?
1735
01:16:13,569 --> 01:16:15,638
Never mind having union jobs.
1736
01:16:15,638 --> 01:16:17,039
[light melancholic music]
1737
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:19,375
What the movie showed was
1738
01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:21,177
there was a systemic issue.
1739
01:16:21,177 --> 01:16:23,145
Did you get my memo?
1740
01:16:23,145 --> 01:16:25,381
I did, Roz. I tore
right through it.
1741
01:16:25,381 --> 01:16:27,917
Good! You know, we must, uh,
clamp down hard
1742
01:16:27,917 --> 01:16:31,320
on any signs of unionization.
1743
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,057
[Jane] The whole notion
of promotions and benefits
1744
01:16:35,057 --> 01:16:39,762
and being respected for your
work is a thing of the past.
1745
01:16:41,497 --> 01:16:42,932
We see that 9 to 5
1746
01:16:41,497 --> 01:16:42,932
was ahead of the game
1747
01:16:42,932 --> 01:16:45,434
with the idea of flexible hours,
1748
01:16:45,434 --> 01:16:47,169
trying to work part-time
1749
01:16:47,169 --> 01:16:49,371
or trying to work
around their mothering.
1750
01:16:49,371 --> 01:16:52,074
What the hell is going on?
Who authorized all this?
1751
01:16:52,074 --> 01:16:55,744
You did, Mr. Hart. It's, uh,
your signature.
1752
01:16:55,744 --> 01:16:58,848
[Arianna] Once they have
children and leave the
workplace,
1753
01:16:58,848 --> 01:17:01,684
three quarters of women return,
1754
01:17:01,684 --> 01:17:05,421
but only 40% are
returning full-time.
1755
01:17:05,421 --> 01:17:10,559
The primary responsibility
going to women, largely.
1756
01:17:10,559 --> 01:17:13,262
If a culture is
fueled by burnout,
1757
01:17:13,262 --> 01:17:17,399
women are going to pay
a disproportionate price.
1758
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:19,068
[reporter 1] The current health
crisis is impacting
1759
01:17:19,068 --> 01:17:21,871
the working women more than men,
1760
01:17:21,871 --> 01:17:23,739
and there are a
number of reasons why.
1761
01:17:23,739 --> 01:17:25,107
During this pandemic,
many parents,
1762
01:17:25,107 --> 01:17:27,409
especially moms,
have been working
1763
01:17:27,409 --> 01:17:30,546
and helping their kids with
schoolwork at home.
1764
01:17:30,546 --> 01:17:32,882
One in three mothers may be
forced to scale back
1765
01:17:32,882 --> 01:17:35,985
or opt out of the workforce.
1766
01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:39,054
[Karen] So, childcare,
1767
01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:39,054
maternity leave,
1768
01:17:39,054 --> 01:17:41,924
health insurance,
paid sick time,
1769
01:17:41,924 --> 01:17:44,960
all of those things,
1770
01:17:41,924 --> 01:17:44,960
you saw in 9 to 5.
1771
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,896
So, you pulled it
off, Frank, huh?
1772
01:17:46,896 --> 01:17:48,898
Well, I, I like to
think we did, anyway.
1773
01:17:48,898 --> 01:17:50,399
-[laughter]
-Good. Like the day-care center.
1774
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:51,901
Center-- day-care center?
1775
01:17:51,901 --> 01:17:53,435
[Karen] All of those things,
1776
01:17:53,435 --> 01:17:55,304
women are still fighting for.
1777
01:17:55,304 --> 01:17:58,407
And we have to be
clear-eyed about that.
1778
01:17:58,407 --> 01:18:00,743
Those issues, which
were at the center
1779
01:18:00,743 --> 01:18:03,178
of the 9 to 5 movie,
1780
01:18:00,743 --> 01:18:03,178
are not resolved.
1781
01:18:03,178 --> 01:18:04,780
[Violet] We transformed, but
the cost was minimal.
1782
01:18:04,780 --> 01:18:06,849
It's cut down on absenteeism
1783
01:18:06,849 --> 01:18:08,684
and we had a wonderful
time doing it.
1784
01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:11,020
Well, Frank, I gotta
give you credit.
1785
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,023
-You really pulled it off here.
-[chuckles]
1786
01:18:14,023 --> 01:18:16,458
And, uh, that equal pay thing,
though, that's, uh, that's got
to go. Hmm?
1787
01:18:16,458 --> 01:18:18,427
-Oh, yes. -Oh, yeah, it's all
right as an incentive,
1788
01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:20,763
but, uh, we don't need to
keep on priming the pump.
1789
01:18:20,763 --> 01:18:23,432
We need to be
talking about money.
1790
01:18:23,432 --> 01:18:25,601
We need to say it out loud.
1791
01:18:25,601 --> 01:18:28,203
And spreading the message
of women knowing their worth
1792
01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:30,639
and asking for
what they're worth.
1793
01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:34,777
[crowd cheering, clapping, and
chanting] ...pay! Equal pay!
1794
01:18:34,777 --> 01:18:37,613
How long have I been
chanting "equal pay"?
1795
01:18:37,613 --> 01:18:39,348
[reporter 2] They rolled down
Broadway, down the stretch
1796
01:18:39,348 --> 01:18:41,617
known as the
Canyon of Heroes,
1797
01:18:41,617 --> 01:18:44,353
brandishing what they'd been
sent to France to retrieve,
1798
01:18:44,353 --> 01:18:46,622
the World Cup Trophy.
1799
01:18:46,622 --> 01:18:49,325
[all shouting] Equal
pay! Equal pay!
1800
01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:51,527
[Zoe] I am
1801
01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:51,527
hoping that it is
1802
01:18:51,527 --> 01:18:55,965
through those ground-breaking
women in sports,
1803
01:18:55,965 --> 01:19:00,202
in the arts, in
politics and activism...
1804
01:19:00,202 --> 01:19:03,906
Marching to the front lines as
we often do.
1805
01:19:03,906 --> 01:19:06,542
...in all the
visible places,
1806
01:19:06,542 --> 01:19:10,212
we're gonna finally have equality for women
1807
01:19:10,212 --> 01:19:13,649
in the Constitution
of the United States.
1808
01:19:15,317 --> 01:19:18,687
[Fatima] In order to
ratify any amendment,
1809
01:19:18,687 --> 01:19:20,889
we not only need
Congress to act,
1810
01:19:20,889 --> 01:19:23,926
you also need
states to act.
1811
01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:26,261
[Lily] I came to Virginia
1812
01:19:26,261 --> 01:19:28,263
because your
elections next Tuesday
1813
01:19:28,263 --> 01:19:30,866
transcend the borders
of your state.
1814
01:19:30,866 --> 01:19:32,668
[crowd clapping and cheering]
1815
01:19:32,668 --> 01:19:34,169
[gentle music]
1816
01:19:35,838 --> 01:19:38,841
[Fatima] And you need 38 states.
1817
01:19:38,841 --> 01:19:42,778
Over the years, we
have gotten to 37.
1818
01:19:42,778 --> 01:19:45,447
We are one state away.
1819
01:19:45,447 --> 01:19:49,084
[Patricia] Did the Civil
Rights Act eliminate prejudice?
1820
01:19:49,084 --> 01:19:52,254
No, of course not. And has it
made an equal playing field? No.
1821
01:19:52,254 --> 01:19:55,524
But at least it gives you some
laws that help protect you.
1822
01:19:55,524 --> 01:19:59,428
♪ ...dreams have wings ♪
1823
01:19:59,428 --> 01:20:02,297
[Zoe] If you ask eight graders
across the country,
1824
01:20:02,297 --> 01:20:05,801
"Are you in the constitution?"
They would all say, "Yes."
1825
01:20:05,801 --> 01:20:07,803
And then, I have
to tell the girls,
1826
01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:10,572
"I have some very
bad news for you.
1827
01:20:10,572 --> 01:20:12,908
-No, you're not." -♪ ...yeah,
dreams have... ♪
1828
01:20:12,908 --> 01:20:15,711
All those in favor say, "Aye."
1829
01:20:15,711 --> 01:20:17,246
[crowd] Aye.
1830
01:20:17,246 --> 01:20:18,647
[cheering and clapping]
1831
01:20:23,585 --> 01:20:25,087
[gentle music]
1832
01:20:37,132 --> 01:20:40,569
9 to 5 changed my life,
1833
01:20:37,132 --> 01:20:40,569
and I can say beyond a doubt
1834
01:20:40,569 --> 01:20:44,006
that it changed
the office, bosses,
1835
01:20:44,006 --> 01:20:47,309
and the whole atmosphere
of office work.
1836
01:20:47,309 --> 01:20:48,944
[Bruce] I'm under no illusion
that any single film
1837
01:20:48,944 --> 01:20:50,612
can change the culture.
1838
01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:52,614
There are just so many factors
1839
01:20:52,614 --> 01:20:55,417
that effect change.
1840
01:20:55,417 --> 01:20:59,755
As filmmakers, we just
try to do our part.
1841
01:20:59,755 --> 01:21:04,193
I recognized the value
of being a woman,
1842
01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:07,796
because it was
lauded in the film.
1843
01:21:07,796 --> 01:21:11,100
[Amaya] Regardless of age,
regardless of race,
1844
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:14,136
regardless of orientation,
1845
01:21:14,136 --> 01:21:16,004
having solidarity in
the women's movement
1846
01:21:16,004 --> 01:21:18,874
is really what's
gonna push us forward.
1847
01:21:18,874 --> 01:21:22,111
[Dame Jenni] It's young women
respecting older women
1848
01:21:22,111 --> 01:21:23,679
and older women
giving them a leg up.
1849
01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:26,548
[music continues]
1850
01:21:26,548 --> 01:21:29,384
[Yanira] I can tell you
that it's gonna be a fight,
1851
01:21:29,384 --> 01:21:31,987
but I can also tell you that
it's gonna be a good fight,
1852
01:21:31,987 --> 01:21:33,655
because it's gonna
be with your sisters,
1853
01:21:33,655 --> 01:21:36,125
with people who understand
you and want the same goals.
1854
01:21:36,125 --> 01:21:39,795
And ultimately,
you'll get there.
1855
01:21:40,395 --> 01:21:43,632
[Karen] Unless we're able to
truly understand what we're up
against
1856
01:21:43,632 --> 01:21:46,535
and build the power we need to
win against that,
1857
01:21:46,535 --> 01:21:49,304
then we'll be engaged in 40
1858
01:21:49,304 --> 01:21:51,206
and 50-year struggles
like we are today.
1859
01:21:51,206 --> 01:21:53,509
[dramatic music]
1860
01:21:53,509 --> 01:21:55,544
And the more women we get into
positions of power,
1861
01:21:55,544 --> 01:21:58,147
the more that that
will dissipate.
1862
01:21:58,147 --> 01:22:00,716
While I may be the first woman
in this office,
1863
01:22:00,716 --> 01:22:02,518
I will not be the last.
1864
01:22:02,518 --> 01:22:06,255
[crowd cheering and clapping]
1865
01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:13,095
Because every little
girl watching tonight
1866
01:22:13,095 --> 01:22:17,232
sees that this is a country of
possibilities.
1867
01:22:18,567 --> 01:22:21,503
And to the children
of our country,
1868
01:22:21,503 --> 01:22:22,704
regardless of your gender,
1869
01:22:24,273 --> 01:22:26,842
our country has sent
you a clear message.
1870
01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:30,412
Dream with ambition.
1871
01:22:30,412 --> 01:22:31,847
[cheering continues]
1872
01:22:33,282 --> 01:22:35,217
There's something very exciting
and dynamic
1873
01:22:35,217 --> 01:22:37,352
in this moment,
which is why now,
1874
01:22:37,352 --> 01:22:39,188
making change in the world
1875
01:22:39,188 --> 01:22:42,357
has to reach down the
generational line.
1876
01:22:42,357 --> 01:22:45,394
It's so important that
people who've been, you know,
1877
01:22:45,394 --> 01:22:48,864
suffering because of injustice
1878
01:22:48,864 --> 01:22:51,900
realize that they're seen.
1879
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:53,302
[Lily] As women, we
need to still fight.
1880
01:22:53,302 --> 01:22:55,137
...the earth! Rights
for the trees!
1881
01:22:55,137 --> 01:22:57,039
We've got so much more to do.
1882
01:22:57,039 --> 01:23:01,143
How can anybody ever do enough?
1883
01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:02,811
No matter what you're doing,
is never gonna be enough.
1884
01:23:02,811 --> 01:23:05,080
My Lord, it's 40 years now.
1885
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,982
Those fairy godmothers
accomplished a lot,
1886
01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:09,051
but we've got a long way to go.
1887
01:23:09,051 --> 01:23:12,054
Just like DoraLee and Violet and
Judy in the film.
1888
01:23:12,054 --> 01:23:14,823
-[cork pops]
-[laughter]
1889
01:23:14,823 --> 01:23:17,159
And Tinsworthy
loved what we did!
1890
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:19,094
Yeah, everything, except
that part about the money.
1891
01:23:19,094 --> 01:23:20,963
What are we gonna do about that?
1892
01:23:20,963 --> 01:23:22,898
Hey, we've come this
far, haven't we?
1893
01:23:22,898 --> 01:23:24,666
This is just the beginning.
1894
01:23:24,666 --> 01:23:26,802
And here's to the beginning!
1895
01:23:26,802 --> 01:23:27,936
-[laughs]
-I'll drink to that.
1896
01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:29,938
-To the beginning.
-Yay.
1897
01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:31,740
["9 to 5 (FROM THE STILL
WORKING 9 TO 5 DOCUMENTARY)"
1898
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:32,808
by Kelly Clarkson
& Dolly Parton]
1899
01:23:40,349 --> 01:23:41,316
♪ Nine to five ♪
1900
01:23:45,787 --> 01:23:48,257
♪ Tumble out of bed and I
stumble to the kitchen ♪
1901
01:23:48,257 --> 01:23:50,759
♪ Pour myself a
cup of ambition ♪
1902
01:23:50,759 --> 01:23:52,761
♪ And yawn and stretch
and try to come to life ♪
1903
01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:58,533
♪ Jump in the shower and
the blood starts pumpin' ♪
1904
01:23:58,533 --> 01:24:00,636
♪ Out on the street the
traffic is jumpin' ♪
1905
01:24:00,636 --> 01:24:04,773
♪ With folks like me on
the job from nine to five ♪
1906
01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,943
-♪ Mm, yeah, nine to five
1907
01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,943
♪ -♪ Workin' nine to five
1908
01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,943
♪
1909
01:24:07,943 --> 01:24:10,712
♪ What a way to
make a livin' ♪
1910
01:24:10,712 --> 01:24:13,048
-♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ -♪ Gettin' by ♪
1911
01:24:13,048 --> 01:24:16,451
♪ It's all takin'
and no givin' ♪
1912
01:24:16,451 --> 01:24:18,153
-♪ They just use your mind
1913
01:24:16,451 --> 01:24:18,153
♪ -♪ They just use your
1914
01:24:16,451 --> 01:24:18,153
mind ♪
1915
01:24:18,153 --> 01:24:21,056
♪ And they never
give you credit ♪
1916
01:24:21,056 --> 01:24:25,460
♪ It's enough to drive
you crazy if you let it ♪
1917
01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:28,397
-♪ If you let it, nine to
five ♪ -♪ Workin' nine to
five ♪
1918
01:24:28,397 --> 01:24:31,733
♪ For service
and devotion ♪
1919
01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,468
-♪ You would think that I
1920
01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,468
♪ -♪ You would think that
1921
01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,468
I ♪
1922
01:24:33,468 --> 01:24:36,338
♪ Would deserve a
fair promotion ♪
1923
01:24:36,338 --> 01:24:38,540
-♪ Want to move ahead ♪
1924
01:24:36,338 --> 01:24:38,540
-♪ Move ahead ♪
1925
01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:41,643
♪ But the boss won't
seem to let me ♪
1926
01:24:41,643 --> 01:24:44,546
♪ I swear sometimes that
man is out to get me ♪
1927
01:24:44,546 --> 01:24:47,316
♪ He's out to get me! ♪
1928
01:24:47,316 --> 01:24:47,649
-♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1929
01:24:49,318 --> 01:24:52,487
♪ Nine to five ♪
1930
01:24:52,487 --> 01:24:52,854
-♪ Workin', workin', workin'
♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1931
01:24:54,990 --> 01:24:58,327
♪ Nine to five they
let you dream ♪
1932
01:24:58,327 --> 01:25:01,263
♪ Just to watch 'em shatter
you're just a step ♪
1933
01:25:01,263 --> 01:25:03,999
-♪ On the bossman's ladder
1934
01:25:01,263 --> 01:25:03,999
♪ -♪ But you've got
1935
01:25:01,263 --> 01:25:03,999
dreams ♪
1936
01:25:03,999 --> 01:25:07,502
-♪ He'll never take away
1937
01:25:03,999 --> 01:25:07,502
♪ -♪ He'll never take 'em
1938
01:25:03,999 --> 01:25:07,502
away ♪
1939
01:25:07,502 --> 01:25:09,671
♪ You're in the same boat
with a lot of your friends ♪
1940
01:25:09,671 --> 01:25:12,407
♪ Waitin' for the day
your ship'll come in ♪
1941
01:25:12,407 --> 01:25:14,409
-♪ And when the tide's gonna
turn and it's all ♪ -♪ Mm ♪
1942
01:25:14,409 --> 01:25:17,179
-♪ Gonna roll your way ♪ -♪ I just know it ♪
1943
01:25:17,179 --> 01:25:19,348
-♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1944
01:25:19,348 --> 01:25:22,351
♪ What a way to
make a livin' ♪
1945
01:25:22,351 --> 01:25:24,519
-♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ -♪ Gettin' by ♪
1946
01:25:24,519 --> 01:25:28,023
♪ It's all takin'
and no givin' ♪
1947
01:25:28,023 --> 01:25:29,591
-♪ They just use your mind
1948
01:25:28,023 --> 01:25:29,591
♪ -♪ They just use your
1949
01:25:28,023 --> 01:25:29,591
mind ♪
1950
01:25:29,591 --> 01:25:32,461
♪ And they never
give you credit ♪
1951
01:25:32,461 --> 01:25:35,864
♪ It's enough to drive
you crazy if you let it ♪
1952
01:25:35,864 --> 01:25:39,968
-♪ But you won't let it ♪ -♪ Workin' nine to five ♪
1953
01:25:39,968 --> 01:25:43,205
♪ Yeah, they got you
where they want you ♪
1954
01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,807
-♪ There's a better life
1955
01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,807
♪ -♪ There's a better
1956
01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,807
life ♪
1957
01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:48,310
-♪ And you dream about it
1958
01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:48,310
don't you ♪ -♪ You dream
1959
01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:48,310
♪
1960
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:50,312
-♪ About it, rich man's game
♪ -♪ It's a rich man's
1961
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:50,312
game ♪
1962
01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:52,581
♪ No matter what
they call it ♪
1963
01:25:52,581 --> 01:25:55,984
♪ And you spend your
life puttin' money ♪
1964
01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,786
-♪ In his wallet ♪ -♪
1965
01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,786
Puttin' money in his wallet
1966
01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,786
♪
1967
01:25:57,786 --> 01:26:00,222
-♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1968
01:26:00,222 --> 01:26:03,158
♪ What a way to
make a livin' ♪
1969
01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:05,327
-♪ Barely gettin' by ♪ -♪ Gettin' by ♪
1970
01:26:05,327 --> 01:26:08,897
♪ It's all takin'
and no givin' ♪
1971
01:26:08,897 --> 01:26:10,432
-♪ They just use your mind
1972
01:26:08,897 --> 01:26:10,432
♪ -♪ They just use your
1973
01:26:08,897 --> 01:26:10,432
mind ♪
1974
01:26:10,432 --> 01:26:13,301
♪ And they never
give you credit ♪
1975
01:26:13,301 --> 01:26:15,904
♪ It's enough to drive
you crazy if you let it ♪
1976
01:26:15,904 --> 01:26:18,573
♪ Crazy if you let it ♪
1977
01:26:18,573 --> 01:26:23,412
-♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five, ooh ♪
1978
01:26:23,412 --> 01:26:24,780
-♪ Workin' nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1979
01:26:27,682 --> 01:26:30,000
rich man's game ♪
1980
01:26:27,682 --> 01:26:31,253
-♪ Will-- ♪ -♪ It's a
1981
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,253
rich man's game ♪
1982
01:26:31,253 --> 01:26:33,488
♪ No matter what
they call it ♪
1983
01:26:33,488 --> 01:26:36,758
♪ And you spend your
life puttin' money ♪
1984
01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:39,528
-♪ In his wallet ♪ -♪
1985
01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:39,528
Puttin' money in his wallet
1986
01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:39,528
♪
1987
01:26:39,528 --> 01:26:41,430
-♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1988
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:42,364
♪ Just workin'
workin', workin' ♪
1989
01:26:44,032 --> 01:26:46,468
♪ Nine to five ♪
1990
01:26:46,468 --> 01:26:47,869
♪ Just workin'
workin', workin' ♪
1991
01:26:49,871 --> 01:26:51,306
-♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
1992
01:26:51,306 --> 01:26:53,008
♪ And you think
about it don't you ♪
1993
01:26:54,342 --> 01:26:56,445
♪ Nine to five ♪
1994
01:26:56,445 --> 01:26:57,946
♪ Yeah, you think
about it don't you ♪
1995
01:27:00,015 --> 01:27:00,615
-♪ Nine to five ♪ -♪ Nine to five ♪
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