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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,936 --> 00:00:21,147 On the whole, there are two people in me. 2 00:00:21,147 --> 00:00:23,566 I would like to be Maria, 3 00:00:23,566 --> 00:00:26,527 but there is the Callas that I have to live up to. 4 00:00:26,527 --> 00:00:30,156 So I'm coping with both as much as I can. 5 00:00:30,573 --> 00:00:32,783 [David Frost] And in a... in a crunch, 6 00:00:32,783 --> 00:00:35,119 who has to win, Maria or Callas? 7 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:38,080 I like to think that they both go together, 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,208 because Callas has been Maria. 9 00:00:41,208 --> 00:00:46,630 In my singing and in my work, my own self has been there every second. 10 00:00:47,006 --> 00:00:49,758 I've done nothing falsely. I've worked with all honesty. 11 00:00:49,758 --> 00:00:55,139 So Maria has... if somebody really tries to listen to me seriously, 12 00:00:55,139 --> 00:00:57,725 one will find all of myself in there. 13 00:00:58,475 --> 00:01:01,645 [Callas singing] 14 00:01:49,735 --> 00:01:53,197 [singing continues] 15 00:02:16,262 --> 00:02:19,265 [singing continues] 16 00:02:42,705 --> 00:02:45,040 [singing continues] 17 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:26,540 "Madame Callas," one music critic notes, 18 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:29,877 "has restored the ancient luster to the title of prima donna." 19 00:03:30,502 --> 00:03:33,380 Leonard Bernstein calls her "pure electricity." 20 00:03:35,174 --> 00:03:36,592 Good evening, Madame Callas. 21 00:03:36,592 --> 00:03:39,428 - Good evening, Mr. Murrow. - And welcome home. 22 00:03:39,428 --> 00:03:41,638 - Thank you very much. - I... I know that many people 23 00:03:41,638 --> 00:03:44,308 are under the impression that you're Italian, 24 00:03:44,308 --> 00:03:47,644 and are not aware that actually you grew up in New York. 25 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:49,104 - Isn't that right? - Yes. 26 00:03:49,104 --> 00:03:51,648 Not only was I born in New York, 27 00:03:51,648 --> 00:03:53,525 not in Brooklyn, as they say-- 28 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:55,903 [laughs] Not that there's anything wrong with Brooklyn, of course, 29 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:57,446 but just for the sake of truth, 30 00:03:58,072 --> 00:04:02,368 but, uh, I was brought up in America, in New York, 31 00:04:02,368 --> 00:04:04,370 and I'm rather proud of that, too. 32 00:04:04,370 --> 00:04:08,290 Madame Callas, uh, what do you remember most about your school days? 33 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:12,086 Well, very happy days, I must say, carefree days. 34 00:04:12,544 --> 00:04:14,755 I remember we had a principal who was very severe, 35 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:18,092 and he kept on saying, "Now, children, self-control. 36 00:04:18,092 --> 00:04:20,636 - Remember that all your life." - [Murrow chuckling] 37 00:04:20,636 --> 00:04:22,346 [laughing] I am, but... 38 00:04:23,055 --> 00:04:24,973 Though it's hard sometimes to remember it. 39 00:04:24,973 --> 00:04:29,103 And also, uh, I always used to sing each year for the graduation. 40 00:04:29,103 --> 00:04:32,022 You know, I was the little, uh, singer of the school. 41 00:04:32,022 --> 00:04:35,025 - Mm-hmm. - I sang operettas, and I sang, uh... 42 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:38,112 Well, uh, Chinese princes and the sailors 43 00:04:38,112 --> 00:04:40,447 and certain things like that, as much as I remember. 44 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:42,408 [piano playing Intermezzo from "Cavalleria Rusticana"] 45 00:04:42,408 --> 00:04:45,869 [interviewer] I've never been able to pronounce the last name. 46 00:04:46,036 --> 00:04:48,080 - Would you do it for me? - In Greek? 47 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,873 [interviewer] In Greek. 48 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,042 - [Callas] Here, you ready? - Yes. 49 00:04:52,209 --> 00:04:54,545 Kalogeropoulou. Well, it's rather long. 50 00:04:54,753 --> 00:04:57,381 [interviewer] And that's why your father changed it to Callas? 51 00:04:57,381 --> 00:04:58,590 Yes, I'm afraid so. 52 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:03,011 It was already done by the time I understood any difference. 53 00:05:08,016 --> 00:05:10,561 My mother was rather ambitious, 54 00:05:10,561 --> 00:05:15,441 and, uh, my father wanted me to have a musical education. 55 00:05:15,441 --> 00:05:18,735 I started on piano at eight years old. 56 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,156 [Callas speaking French] These were the times of Deanna Durbin 57 00:05:22,156 --> 00:05:24,241 and Shirley Temple, 58 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:26,869 and of course my mother was dreaming... 59 00:05:27,161 --> 00:05:29,246 Dreaming of what? Glory of course. 60 00:05:29,246 --> 00:05:34,418 She decided that I should become a great singer. 61 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:37,546 And I probably did have some talent, 62 00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:40,340 otherwise she would not have carried on. 63 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:43,427 And I couldn't fight it because in those days, 64 00:05:43,427 --> 00:05:45,429 one did as the parents decided. 65 00:05:45,429 --> 00:05:48,891 What could I have done? Protest? 66 00:05:48,891 --> 00:05:51,643 A girl like me against a temperament like my mother's? 67 00:05:52,644 --> 00:05:54,271 It's cruelty, I think. 68 00:05:54,271 --> 00:05:58,692 In fact, please forgive me, but I must say there must be a law against it. 69 00:05:58,692 --> 00:06:01,487 Children should not be given this responsibility. 70 00:06:01,487 --> 00:06:03,030 They don't last long. 71 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:04,823 Children should have a wonderful childhood. 72 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,534 I had not had it. I wish I could have. 73 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:13,749 We left for Greece in 1937, 74 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:16,293 so I had just gone into high school. 75 00:06:16,293 --> 00:06:18,545 So, uh, I went to Greece, 76 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:20,964 and, uh, I couldn't continue school there, 77 00:06:20,964 --> 00:06:24,593 because my mother decided on my singing career. 78 00:06:26,637 --> 00:06:29,473 [Frost] You enjoyed your childhood? You enjoyed being young, did you? 79 00:06:29,473 --> 00:06:32,768 Ah, yes, the little I did have of it, I really did enjoy it. 80 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:35,646 And then you went to Greece, and you were caught in Greece 81 00:06:35,646 --> 00:06:37,481 - for the duration... - The war. 82 00:06:37,481 --> 00:06:39,066 - ...duration of the war. - Yes. 83 00:06:39,983 --> 00:06:41,777 What are your memories of that? 84 00:06:41,777 --> 00:06:43,695 Uh, that was hard. 85 00:06:44,488 --> 00:06:48,951 I confess that that was a bit hard, but, uh, it doesn't hurt anybody. 86 00:06:48,951 --> 00:06:51,703 You know, uh, hardship does one good. 87 00:06:52,329 --> 00:06:54,456 And as soon as I went to Greece, I was, uh, 88 00:06:54,456 --> 00:06:58,335 put into the Conservatoire, but I had an age problem. 89 00:06:59,127 --> 00:07:01,755 My age problem was that I was only 13 years old, 90 00:07:01,755 --> 00:07:03,340 and I couldn't enter the, uh... 91 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:07,052 [laughs] ...the conservatory unless I was at least 17. 92 00:07:07,553 --> 00:07:09,972 But I was a tall girl, 93 00:07:09,972 --> 00:07:12,724 and, uh, I could justify very well saying a lie. 94 00:07:13,225 --> 00:07:15,227 [laughing] It was the first lie in my life. 95 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:20,274 [actress as Maria Callas] My mother didn't allow me 96 00:07:20,274 --> 00:07:23,277 to stay in front of the mirror for more than five minutes. 97 00:07:23,277 --> 00:07:24,861 I had to study. 98 00:07:25,487 --> 00:07:27,864 I couldn't waste time with such nonsense. 99 00:07:27,864 --> 00:07:30,492 And certainly, I owe it to her strictness 100 00:07:30,492 --> 00:07:34,288 if today I have vast and extensive artistic experience. 101 00:07:35,497 --> 00:07:39,042 I was finally accepted at the Conservatoire of Athens, 102 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:42,045 where I was entrusted to the wonderful teacher, 103 00:07:42,045 --> 00:07:44,256 Elvira de Hidalgo. 104 00:07:44,256 --> 00:07:46,758 To this illustrious Spanish artist, 105 00:07:46,758 --> 00:07:51,221 I say, with a moved, devoted and grateful heart, 106 00:07:51,221 --> 00:07:53,974 I owe all my stage and musical training. 107 00:07:54,725 --> 00:07:59,146 This elect creature, who besides giving me her precious teachings, 108 00:07:59,730 --> 00:08:01,857 gave me her whole heart, 109 00:08:01,857 --> 00:08:04,735 and was a witness to all my life in Athens. 110 00:08:05,402 --> 00:08:09,948 With her, more than anyone, I felt like family. 111 00:08:09,948 --> 00:08:13,577 [speaking French] She had this look in her eyes. 112 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:16,580 And a way of interpreting the... 113 00:08:18,081 --> 00:08:19,082 the arias. 114 00:08:19,082 --> 00:08:22,502 She didn't know much Italian but was singing in Italian. 115 00:08:23,754 --> 00:08:26,923 That really struck me. She watched me the whole time. 116 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:30,218 With that large mouth of hers 117 00:08:30,761 --> 00:08:33,221 and her expressive eyes. 118 00:08:33,805 --> 00:08:36,892 That impressed me. I thought, "She is someone!" 119 00:08:38,101 --> 00:08:40,812 [speaking French] What was she like as a student? 120 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:43,607 - Perfect. - Meaning? 121 00:08:43,607 --> 00:08:45,942 Obedient, intelligent, 122 00:08:46,777 --> 00:08:48,362 a really hard worker... 123 00:08:48,362 --> 00:08:52,366 Such a hard worker. That was incredible. 124 00:08:52,824 --> 00:08:54,868 I never had to tell her... 125 00:08:55,619 --> 00:08:58,330 anything twice. 126 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:01,041 She'd say, "Yes, capito." 127 00:09:02,459 --> 00:09:03,794 The next day... 128 00:09:04,836 --> 00:09:05,837 Magnificent! 129 00:09:06,463 --> 00:09:07,798 And everything was like that. 130 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:12,344 She was very musical and a musician, she knew a lot about music. 131 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:15,013 She played the piano really well. 132 00:09:15,931 --> 00:09:20,894 And she always arrived first and was the last to leave. 133 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:22,396 That was astonishing. 134 00:09:22,396 --> 00:09:25,732 How could she keep it up like that for five hours? 135 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:28,026 She'd listen to all the other students. 136 00:09:28,735 --> 00:09:32,072 The coloraturas, the tenors, all of them. 137 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:35,075 That's why she got this... 138 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:40,288 this idea to sing, and especially the high notes. 139 00:09:40,288 --> 00:09:42,499 She'd say: "Will I be able to do the pichetatti?" 140 00:09:42,499 --> 00:09:46,670 I'd reply: "If you carry on like that, yes, you'll be able to do anything. 141 00:09:47,546 --> 00:09:50,215 Anything. But only if you keep on working like now." 142 00:09:50,716 --> 00:09:54,344 [music plays] 143 00:10:01,852 --> 00:10:06,356 [Callas singing aria] 144 00:10:21,872 --> 00:10:25,292 -[singing continues] -[no audible dialogue] 145 00:10:50,317 --> 00:10:52,486 -[singing] -[no audible dialogue] 146 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:07,292 -[singing continues] -[no audible dialogue] 147 00:11:13,715 --> 00:11:15,926 [Callas hits high notes] 148 00:11:15,926 --> 00:11:17,803 [applause] 149 00:11:17,803 --> 00:11:20,013 [music continues] 150 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,983 [indistinct chatter] 151 00:11:45,914 --> 00:11:49,876 -[singing continues] -[no audible dialogue] 152 00:12:00,095 --> 00:12:02,180 [singing continues] 153 00:12:03,014 --> 00:12:05,183 [audience applauds] 154 00:12:22,826 --> 00:12:26,955 -[singing continues] -[no audible dialogue] 155 00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:39,217 -[singing continues] -[no audible dialogue] 156 00:13:06,369 --> 00:13:09,414 [singing continues] 157 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:30,810 [singing continues] 158 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:44,658 [music ends] 159 00:13:44,658 --> 00:13:46,743 [applause] 160 00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:01,967 I would have preferred, uh... 161 00:14:01,967 --> 00:14:04,970 to have a happy-- a happy family and have children. 162 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:07,847 I think that is the main vocation of a woman. 163 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:10,809 But destiny brought me into this career. 164 00:14:10,809 --> 00:14:13,061 Uh, I couldn't get out, and, uh... 165 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:19,317 I was forced into it quite frequently, first by my mother, then by my husband. 166 00:14:19,317 --> 00:14:21,319 I would have given it up with pleasure, 167 00:14:21,987 --> 00:14:25,115 but destiny is destiny, and there is no way out. 168 00:14:35,166 --> 00:14:37,544 [cameras clicking] 169 00:14:39,921 --> 00:14:44,801 [man speaking French] Madam Callas, what is your impression 170 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:48,138 on the eve of this gala, which is your Paris debut? 171 00:14:48,138 --> 00:14:50,765 [Callas speaking French] I promised I would come to Paris. 172 00:14:50,765 --> 00:14:56,187 So I ask you to wish... for your sake too, 173 00:14:56,187 --> 00:14:59,899 for me to sing like never before. That's all I want now. 174 00:16:13,723 --> 00:16:20,730 Chaste Goddess 175 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:33,326 Whose silver lights bathe 176 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:54,347 These holy ancient plants 177 00:17:01,146 --> 00:17:05,859 Cast upon us 178 00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:11,406 Your beautiful face 179 00:17:13,867 --> 00:17:19,372 Cast upon us... 180 00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:40,143 Your beautiful face 181 00:17:40,143 --> 00:17:45,231 Unclouded 182 00:17:45,231 --> 00:17:52,238 And unveiled 183 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:09,315 Temper, O Goddess 184 00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:19,742 Temper the ardent hearts 185 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:34,257 Temper again 186 00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:50,857 Their brave zeal 187 00:19:51,983 --> 00:19:57,113 Spread on earth 188 00:19:58,489 --> 00:20:02,327 That peace 189 00:20:04,454 --> 00:20:10,460 Spread on earth... 190 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:30,730 That peace which you cause... 191 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:43,117 To reign in heaven 192 00:21:31,416 --> 00:21:33,251 [music ends] 193 00:21:34,168 --> 00:21:37,171 [applause] 194 00:21:47,014 --> 00:21:48,891 [applause continues] 195 00:21:58,985 --> 00:22:01,362 [applause continues] 196 00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:10,705 [indistinct chattering] 197 00:22:21,591 --> 00:22:24,510 [interviewer] You have a reputation for being a good actress. 198 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:27,847 Do you consider it necessary and essential to be an actress? 199 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:29,474 Yes. I should say. 200 00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,018 I don't think you would even want an artist, 201 00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:35,146 a real artist, uh, that cannot act. 202 00:22:35,771 --> 00:22:37,231 I'm quite sure you don't. 203 00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:39,192 You just don't bother to go to the opera anymore. 204 00:22:39,192 --> 00:22:41,402 And opera can be a very silly thing, 205 00:22:41,402 --> 00:22:43,946 but it can be the most gorgeous thing in the world. 206 00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,073 You also have a reputation 207 00:22:46,073 --> 00:22:48,910 as one of the most tempestuous opera stars in the world. 208 00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:52,413 Well, um, I don't know what you mean by "tempestuous." 209 00:22:53,122 --> 00:22:55,583 Uh, there's been lots of, uh, talk about it, too, 210 00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:58,044 and I haven't quite understood what it means. 211 00:23:01,923 --> 00:23:05,551 [orchestral music playing] 212 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,933 [actress as Maria Callas] The saddest evening of my career 213 00:23:11,933 --> 00:23:14,060 started out as a very promising one. 214 00:23:15,478 --> 00:23:19,148 I could never have predicted the wave of violence and cruelty 215 00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:20,775 that would be unleashed upon me 216 00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:25,071 after that performance so painfully aborted on January the 2nd. 217 00:23:26,989 --> 00:23:30,952 The papers, not only in Rome and Italy, but all over Europe and America, 218 00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:35,915 with few exceptions that moved me for being so rare, 219 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:40,336 set aside all international political events and reserved their front pages, 220 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:44,423 their headlines and their chronicles to my poor name. 221 00:23:45,341 --> 00:23:48,177 It was the ideal time to drag it through the mud 222 00:23:48,177 --> 00:23:51,013 and make me pay dearly for my successes. 223 00:23:53,349 --> 00:23:57,478 Yet everything had begun so well, superbly well, even. 224 00:23:58,396 --> 00:24:01,649 The rehearsals had gone to everybody's satisfaction, 225 00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:04,068 but when I returned to my dressing room, 226 00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:09,073 a freezing room in a theater that had been closed and unused for several months, 227 00:24:09,574 --> 00:24:12,243 a cold wind was blowing through the cracks. 228 00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:17,790 I felt a sudden chill and the beginnings of a rasp in my throat. 229 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,419 I woke up in the middle of the night and realized 230 00:24:21,419 --> 00:24:25,464 that not a sound could come out of my mouth, not one word. 231 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:27,883 I was completely mute. 232 00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:34,473 But that evening was sold out. People were expecting to see La Callas. 233 00:24:35,558 --> 00:24:38,352 I was suddenly swamped with fear. 234 00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:41,272 [dramatic orchestral music playing] 235 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:51,157 I have been called the Tigress, 236 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:57,455 and on that evening, the Tigress entered the splendid yet terrifying theater. 237 00:24:58,122 --> 00:25:03,753 In my dressing room, I was getting ready, with my voice hanging by a thread. 238 00:25:04,545 --> 00:25:05,880 [music plays] 239 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:10,676 [applause] 240 00:25:22,563 --> 00:25:26,108 The numerous remedies had temporarily soothed my throat, 241 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:28,152 but that was not enough. 242 00:25:28,986 --> 00:25:33,908 I had bronchitis, which, of course, could not be cured in such short time. 243 00:25:34,784 --> 00:25:40,039 Once the effect of the treatments wore off, my voice just disappeared. 244 00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:48,339 [man] Due to major unforeseen circumstances, 245 00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:50,758 the rest of the performance is canceled. 246 00:25:51,342 --> 00:25:54,595 [jeering, whistling] 247 00:26:02,353 --> 00:26:04,939 [actress as Callas] Yes, the head of state was there that evening, 248 00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:07,608 but there was another figure in the theater 249 00:26:07,608 --> 00:26:09,610 worthy of utmost respect, 250 00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:13,656 someone whose name had even been printed on the posters. 251 00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:15,574 Vincenzo Bellini. 252 00:26:16,742 --> 00:26:19,537 I could not, for the sake of protocol, 253 00:26:19,537 --> 00:26:23,999 offend this great musician by moaning rather than singing 254 00:26:23,999 --> 00:26:26,127 the other acts of his Norma. 255 00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:30,089 So on that evening of January 2 256 00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:34,385 at the Rome Opera, the first act of Norma was performed, 257 00:26:34,385 --> 00:26:37,304 perhaps not perfectly, but well enough. 258 00:26:38,055 --> 00:26:41,016 The other acts were not insulted. 259 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,232 CALLAS LEAVE THE OPERA 260 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:54,613 The following day, I realized my lynching had begun 261 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:56,490 with unprecedented violence. 262 00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:02,037 Yet, I didn't outrage the public or the institutions. 263 00:27:02,037 --> 00:27:04,331 I didn't disgrace the president. 264 00:27:04,331 --> 00:27:08,461 I didn't endanger the life of Italian lyric theater. 265 00:27:08,461 --> 00:27:10,963 I simply had bronchitis. 266 00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:17,511 Then I recalled the words from La Traviata, 267 00:27:17,511 --> 00:27:19,221 the words of my Violetta, 268 00:27:19,221 --> 00:27:22,057 which Verdi had cloaked in a bitter melody: 269 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:27,730 "Hence to the miserable soul who one day has fallen, 270 00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:31,442 any hope of resurrection is forever stolen." 271 00:27:36,906 --> 00:27:39,533 [no audible dialogue] 272 00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:55,424 [Verdi's "Addio del Passato" playing] 273 00:28:03,891 --> 00:28:07,520 Farewell 274 00:28:08,437 --> 00:28:11,357 To the past 275 00:28:11,357 --> 00:28:16,237 Happy dreams of days gone by 276 00:28:23,577 --> 00:28:30,584 The rose in my cheeks 277 00:28:31,377 --> 00:28:38,384 Already are faded 278 00:28:42,972 --> 00:28:49,937 Alfredo's love 279 00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:59,780 I miss it more than ever 280 00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:09,540 The comfort and sustenance 281 00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:18,382 Of my weary soul 282 00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:34,315 Comfort... 283 00:29:38,903 --> 00:29:44,617 Sustenance ... 284 00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:56,587 Smile at the one who strayed 285 00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:10,100 Forgive her 286 00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:15,439 And welcome her 287 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:20,027 O God 288 00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:40,422 All is over 289 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,934 Now all is over 290 00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:01,068 [holding final note] 291 00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:10,869 [music ends] 292 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:12,997 [indistinct chattering nearby] 293 00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:17,918 [reporter] Mrs. Callas, welcome to Chicago. 294 00:31:17,918 --> 00:31:20,170 - How do you feel? - Thank you. Fine, thank you. 295 00:31:21,547 --> 00:31:24,550 [music plays] 296 00:31:30,848 --> 00:31:32,808 Why won't you talk to the press, Mrs. Callas? 297 00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:34,977 Why won't you talk to us? You have a bad press 298 00:31:34,977 --> 00:31:36,770 because you won't talk to newsmen. 299 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:39,815 - Will you discuss the Rome incident? - I didn't discuss the Rome incident. 300 00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:41,358 It's closed for me. Please, gentlemen, 301 00:31:41,358 --> 00:31:42,985 I'm here for Chicago. 302 00:31:42,985 --> 00:31:44,361 [indistinct dialogue] 303 00:31:44,361 --> 00:31:45,362 Thank you. 304 00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:51,535 [man] Maria! Look over here, please. 305 00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:53,037 [man 2] Can we get in closer? 306 00:31:53,037 --> 00:31:55,164 - Maria! -[indistinct chatter] 307 00:32:06,050 --> 00:32:08,594 Uh, Madame Callas, in the last few years, 308 00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:12,056 uh, particularly since you've been associated with the Met, 309 00:32:12,056 --> 00:32:16,560 you've received a tremendous amount of adverse publicity. 310 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,978 How do you account for that? 311 00:32:17,978 --> 00:32:21,315 I have been brought to exasperating situations, 312 00:32:21,315 --> 00:32:23,400 as you fully realize, 313 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,486 and yet I have borne them with... 314 00:32:26,487 --> 00:32:28,614 calmness and with patience. 315 00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:30,908 Time does heal lots of things, 316 00:32:30,908 --> 00:32:35,746 and I'm quite sure time will prove what I am, actually. 317 00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:38,957 [Rudolf Bing] There came the point where I had to decide, 318 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:42,753 now, is Madame Callas running the Met, or am I running the Met? 319 00:32:42,753 --> 00:32:45,005 And at that time, I was still running the Met 320 00:32:45,005 --> 00:32:48,300 and said so and canceled our agreement. 321 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:52,304 [interviewer] So you really did fire Maria Callas from the Metropolitan? 322 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:56,308 If you want to use that ugly word, that is so, yes. 323 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,560 I don't think Maria Callas is fired. 324 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,271 Maria Callas is severed from our relationship. 325 00:33:01,271 --> 00:33:04,691 [applause] 326 00:33:04,691 --> 00:33:06,777 [spectator] Bravo! Bravo! 327 00:33:08,362 --> 00:33:10,906 Why in Dallas and not here? 328 00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:12,741 That's something I'd like to tell him. 329 00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:15,285 Why doesn't he do these performances at the Met? 330 00:33:15,285 --> 00:33:16,995 And I would be there with pleasure. 331 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:22,918 [Calla] Did he have to go and say, "Aah! She's an impossible person!" Why? 332 00:33:22,918 --> 00:33:25,879 I'm quite sure he's met so many other impossible people. 333 00:33:25,879 --> 00:33:29,466 He just completely got even with me for all the things 334 00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:31,760 that he could not get even with other people. 335 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,805 That is what I call bad destiny. I was unlucky. 336 00:33:34,805 --> 00:33:37,683 Because my other colleagues have really hurt him much more. 337 00:33:37,683 --> 00:33:41,645 That's why he respects me and he really, sincerely, I'm sure, loves me. 338 00:33:41,645 --> 00:33:43,564 But he's a weak man. 339 00:33:43,564 --> 00:33:45,524 I suppose I pay the consequences 340 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:48,110 of so many other, you know, like a glass that fills up, 341 00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:50,946 and then I was the thing that filled his glass up. 342 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:58,412 Of course I was appalled. I just refused, uh, 343 00:33:58,412 --> 00:34:00,664 next year's contract, because he offered me 344 00:34:00,664 --> 00:34:04,585 the old repertoire-- that is, the old "Norma" staging. 345 00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:06,420 Which you all saw. 346 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:08,714 [man] Which she's done time and time again. 347 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,800 Norma, Barbiere... Barber of Seville, 348 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,597 Traviata, Lucia, and I said, "No, I'm sorry, I cannot do routine." 349 00:34:16,597 --> 00:34:19,433 I want new performances, staged well. 350 00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:24,563 You know, like here, like a little young Dallas is doing. My God. 351 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:27,649 Yes, I suppose that made him angry. I don't know. 352 00:34:27,649 --> 00:34:29,902 I mean, I can't explain it otherwise. 353 00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:32,529 And then yesterday, I received a telegram saying, 354 00:34:32,529 --> 00:34:34,323 "Either you answer me--" 355 00:34:34,323 --> 00:34:37,576 Yesterday at, uh, around 3:30, I think, 356 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:41,330 uh, just before I left for the theater, and he said, 357 00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:45,250 "Either you answer me tomorrow or breach of agreement and contract terminated." 358 00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:47,461 I don't know what got into the man. 359 00:34:47,461 --> 00:34:51,256 I cannot do those, excuse me, lousy performances, 360 00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:54,593 and I cannot change artists every performance, now you can know it. 361 00:34:54,593 --> 00:34:57,179 Each performance we have, if we do ten Macbeths, 362 00:34:57,179 --> 00:34:59,389 ten different tenors, ten baritones... 363 00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:02,392 So I'm sorry, I can't do that. That's not art. 364 00:35:02,392 --> 00:35:05,437 Well, I mean, let's get it out now while we're at it. 365 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:09,942 Do you know that last year I did Traviata never seeing the set? 366 00:35:09,942 --> 00:35:13,904 Never seeing the set, never seeing my colleagues. 367 00:35:13,904 --> 00:35:16,990 Do you think that's right? ls that seriously good theater? 368 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:19,785 Now, I kept these things quiet. All my friends knew about it. 369 00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:22,913 [applause] 370 00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:35,050 [Callas speaking French] Our job is very serious, 371 00:35:35,592 --> 00:35:37,803 and it helps too, 372 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:40,597 but all experiences help on the whole. 373 00:35:40,597 --> 00:35:42,683 But of course I'm human like everyone, 374 00:35:42,683 --> 00:35:45,394 and I like to be entertained with nice shows, 375 00:35:45,394 --> 00:35:50,232 things that are not too serious, not dramatic all the time, 376 00:35:50,232 --> 00:35:52,651 and all those tragedies, that we get so fed up with... 377 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:55,195 [orchestral music playing] 378 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:04,037 -[dog barks] -[Callas laughs] 379 00:36:04,037 --> 00:36:07,874 [interviewer] When you're not busy, uh, recording or appearing in opera... 380 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,502 [Callas] I know what you're going to ask. What do I do? 381 00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:11,545 - There you are. - Yes. Hobbies? 382 00:36:11,545 --> 00:36:13,880 - Nothing. Nothing. - Nothing? 383 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,967 - I just live a human life. - Well, well, good for you. 384 00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:18,927 - I have lots of fresh air. - Good for you. 385 00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:21,930 I just, uh-- When it rains, I go out, and I don't care 386 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:24,308 if I get wet, you know, just to relax the nerves. 387 00:36:24,308 --> 00:36:26,977 - I do some cooking. I love to cook. - Do you? 388 00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:30,314 Now, for instance, my husband bought a little house on the lake, 389 00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:32,107 and he's buying a little motorboat. 390 00:36:32,107 --> 00:36:33,775 - In Italy? - In Italy. 391 00:36:33,775 --> 00:36:38,322 And so I'm dying to learn how to drive the little thing and just go and enjoy myself. 392 00:36:38,322 --> 00:36:42,743 And, well, I must say, I have a very ridiculous and embarrassing hobby. 393 00:36:42,743 --> 00:36:45,203 - Ah. - My husband always pulls my leg for it. 394 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:49,249 But it's just something, you know, a... a mania, shall we call it. 395 00:36:49,249 --> 00:36:51,001 I love recipes. 396 00:36:51,001 --> 00:36:52,836 - I know I'll never use them. - Mm-hmm. 397 00:36:52,836 --> 00:36:55,964 But I-- Wherever I find a recipe, on a newspaper, on a magazine, 398 00:36:55,964 --> 00:36:58,258 I just tear it out and I stick it in a book, 399 00:36:58,258 --> 00:37:00,135 you know, I paste it on. 400 00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:02,471 It's, uh, the only hobby, really, that I have. 401 00:37:02,471 --> 00:37:04,056 - Isn't it ridiculous? -[interviewer chuckles] 402 00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:05,932 [Callas] I know it is, but there you are. 403 00:37:05,932 --> 00:37:07,559 [interviewer] I'm going to cut out something 404 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,353 I saw the other day and send it to you, because... 405 00:37:09,353 --> 00:37:10,979 Oh, thank you. I'd love it. 406 00:37:10,979 --> 00:37:14,066 ...for no reason, because I don't cook if I can avoid it. 407 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:17,527 [Callas] Then there is another hobby that I would like to pick up. 408 00:37:17,527 --> 00:37:19,446 - It is the carillon. - Oh, really? 409 00:37:19,446 --> 00:37:21,823 Although there is one trouble, that I have too good an ear, 410 00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:23,241 so when I hear them, you know, 411 00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,952 mm, doing something I don't like, I get angry. 412 00:37:25,952 --> 00:37:28,747 - But I do love carillons. - But I don't know how they... 413 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,541 [Callas] I'm afraid I'm very old-fashioned even in that. 414 00:37:31,541 --> 00:37:33,752 -[Callas laughs] - Well, old-fashioned or no, 415 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:37,255 have you ever considered doing musical comedies, Madame Callas? 416 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:40,050 [Callas] Well, I've been offered musical comedy. 417 00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,302 - I make a confession. - Uh-huh. 418 00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:44,596 I think that's going a little too far, though. 419 00:37:45,389 --> 00:37:48,975 Can you imagine me, the tragic dame, singing musical comedy? 420 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:51,603 Though I admit, I would enjoy myself sometimes. 421 00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:54,189 -[dog barks] - Though it bothers the dog. 422 00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:57,526 He's my little one, my little monster of the house. 423 00:37:57,526 --> 00:37:59,611 - What's his name? - Toy. 424 00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:02,697 Well, what name could you give a little thing like that? 425 00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:05,951 So, um, that's why I, uh... 426 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:08,245 [barking] 427 00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:14,418 You are so sweet! 428 00:38:14,418 --> 00:38:16,169 My darling... 429 00:38:17,129 --> 00:38:18,338 My joy. 430 00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,810 I think it is more difficult for a woman 431 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:35,689 to run a fabulously wonderful family than a career. 432 00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:39,317 - But to do both is very...? - I have made a career. 433 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:40,902 Uh, it doesn't work together. 434 00:38:40,902 --> 00:38:44,531 I doubt whether, uh... being a good mother at home 435 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,783 can make you also a wonderful career woman. 436 00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:48,952 Not my job. 437 00:38:48,952 --> 00:38:51,163 - It doesn't work. - Really? What would you... 438 00:38:51,163 --> 00:38:53,165 It's a full-time job, my career. 439 00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:55,834 [music plays] 440 00:38:58,295 --> 00:39:02,048 [Callas singing] 441 00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:25,655 [singing continues] 442 00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:48,261 [clamoring] 443 00:39:48,261 --> 00:39:52,265 [singing continues] 444 00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:13,828 [singing continues] 445 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:35,725 [holding note] 446 00:40:58,415 --> 00:41:03,378 -[singing continues on soundtrack] -[applause from audience] 447 00:41:21,605 --> 00:41:25,775 [singing continues] 448 00:41:52,469 --> 00:41:53,595 [music ends] 449 00:41:53,595 --> 00:41:56,181 [applause] 450 00:42:02,187 --> 00:42:03,938 [no audible dialogue] 451 00:42:13,490 --> 00:42:17,285 I was dying to ask a question, and I was trying to think of how to ask it. 452 00:42:17,285 --> 00:42:21,873 The gentleman, Aristotle Onassis, is a... a mutual friend, he's a good friend, 453 00:42:21,873 --> 00:42:24,668 and I think he's a delightful man, 454 00:42:24,668 --> 00:42:27,337 and I wondered what you thought were his greatest qualities. 455 00:42:27,337 --> 00:42:30,757 Oh, you can ask. We're-We're the finest of friends. 456 00:42:30,757 --> 00:42:32,801 I've always said that, and... 457 00:42:32,801 --> 00:42:38,056 I'm quite sure that he considers me his best friend, and that's a lot in life. 458 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:41,351 Uh, he's charming, 459 00:42:42,018 --> 00:42:45,146 very sincere, um... 460 00:42:46,147 --> 00:42:47,273 spontaneous. 461 00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:51,486 So, these are qualities that are very good. 462 00:42:51,486 --> 00:42:54,447 Absolutely. When did you first meet? A long time ago or...? 463 00:42:54,989 --> 00:42:57,534 1957, I think, in Venice. 464 00:42:58,785 --> 00:43:03,707 And, uh, we were on the beach, and we met, and we became fine friends, 465 00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:06,209 and we've stayed, and we will be... 466 00:43:07,711 --> 00:43:09,504 all our lives, we hope. 467 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,346 [actress as Maria Callas] It was destiny that gave birth 468 00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:21,182 to my friendship with Aristo. 469 00:43:21,182 --> 00:43:24,352 I joined the cruise on the Christina to please my husband, 470 00:43:24,352 --> 00:43:26,271 who was very keen to go. 471 00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:30,233 Battista only cared for money and position. 472 00:43:33,486 --> 00:43:37,532 What can you do when you no longer trust your husband? 473 00:43:37,532 --> 00:43:40,952 I thought of Meneghini as a sheltering screen at first 474 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:43,955 to protect me from the outside world, 475 00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:47,667 and he did that, until my fame went to his head. 476 00:43:48,251 --> 00:43:53,423 Battista should have used more diplomacy in his negotiations with the theaters. 477 00:43:53,423 --> 00:43:57,343 His methods backfired, and I had to pay the consequences. 478 00:43:58,386 --> 00:44:00,847 That was the beginning of the end of our marriage. 479 00:44:01,556 --> 00:44:04,851 It was not Onassis or the money. 480 00:44:11,441 --> 00:44:13,651 From the very beginning of the cruise, 481 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:17,989 I realized that Aristo was the kind of friend I had been looking for. 482 00:44:19,532 --> 00:44:21,993 I was very impressed by his charm, 483 00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:23,995 his strong personality, 484 00:44:23,995 --> 00:44:27,165 and the charismatic way he held everyone's attention. 485 00:44:27,957 --> 00:44:32,587 He was not only full of life, he was a source of life. 486 00:44:33,755 --> 00:44:34,672 One night, 487 00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:38,134 after a long and irritating argument with my husband, 488 00:44:38,134 --> 00:44:41,679 I went out on deck for some air and some solitude. 489 00:44:43,056 --> 00:44:47,060 There was Aristo, contemplating the dark sea. 490 00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:51,272 I'm sure our friendship began there. 491 00:44:51,856 --> 00:44:56,444 I had found something I deeply needed and had never encountered before. 492 00:44:57,487 --> 00:45:02,033 He made me feel liberated and very feminine. 493 00:45:02,909 --> 00:45:05,286 I came to love him deeply. 494 00:45:11,668 --> 00:45:15,839 Dear Walter and Judy, I've had a wonderful time on the cruise, 495 00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:18,299 and we were back one week later than planned. 496 00:45:18,842 --> 00:45:22,428 I'm afraid I'm going to give you some bad and shocking news. 497 00:45:22,929 --> 00:45:25,223 I'm separating from Battista. 498 00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:28,893 I hope, dear friends, that this won't murder me. 499 00:45:28,893 --> 00:45:32,438 I've been through quite a bit, and there's a lot of disillusionment. 500 00:45:32,438 --> 00:45:36,484 Don't be alarmed by newspapers if and when they come out. 501 00:45:36,484 --> 00:45:39,112 Dear friends, pray for your poor Maria. 502 00:45:45,869 --> 00:45:48,705 [reporters shouting] 503 00:45:48,705 --> 00:45:50,748 [reporter] Can you talk for a minute, please, for us? 504 00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:52,333 Oh, I'm sorry. 505 00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:55,837 - Can you tell us why you left Dallas? - I'm sorry. I can't talk. 506 00:45:55,837 --> 00:45:58,882 - When are you gonna be going to Italy? - I'm leaving this afternoon on the jet. 507 00:45:58,882 --> 00:46:01,676 How do you feel about the court litigation that's coming up? 508 00:46:01,676 --> 00:46:03,803 I'm giving no interviews. Do you mind, gentlemen? 509 00:46:03,803 --> 00:46:04,762 Please, gentlemen. 510 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:06,890 Mrs. Callas, did you have any disagreement in Dallas? 511 00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:08,933 - Did that have anything to do with it? - I'm giving no interview. 512 00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:11,019 Did you have any trouble in Dallas? Any disagreement? 513 00:46:11,019 --> 00:46:13,730 None at all. I'm giving no interview at all. 514 00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:15,982 - Why did you cut short your trip? - Don't push me, please. 515 00:46:15,982 --> 00:46:18,109 - Are you going to marry Mr. Onassis? - I said don't... 516 00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:20,987 I'm not answering any interview. Now, stop it. 517 00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:31,831 Mrs. Callas, does all this attention disturb you? 518 00:46:31,831 --> 00:46:35,251 [chuckles] Why not? When you're nice, I smile. 519 00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,045 - We try to always be nice. - We try to be nice. 520 00:46:37,045 --> 00:46:40,214 - When you push me around, I don't like it. - Well, we don't mean to push you around. 521 00:46:40,214 --> 00:46:42,342 I wish you'd stand still so I wouldn't have to. 522 00:46:42,342 --> 00:46:44,552 -[Callas] But I have to walk, you know. -[laughing] 523 00:46:44,552 --> 00:46:50,475 Mrs. Callas, do you hope this trip, uh, in Italy will end this romantic squabble? 524 00:46:50,475 --> 00:46:52,477 This is no romantic squabble. 525 00:46:52,477 --> 00:46:55,229 It's a separation. That's what it is. 526 00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:59,275 Have you talked to Mr. Onassis? 527 00:46:59,275 --> 00:47:01,486 I talk to all my friends. 528 00:47:01,486 --> 00:47:04,614 Can you tell us when the last time you spoke to him was? 529 00:47:04,614 --> 00:47:07,283 Do you expect to see Mr. Onassis when you go to Europe? 530 00:47:07,283 --> 00:47:11,788 I hope I see all my friends, and I hope I see Mr. Onassis. Why not? 531 00:47:11,788 --> 00:47:14,374 [reporter] Do you deny the--? 532 00:47:14,374 --> 00:47:16,918 I am answering no more questions. 533 00:47:16,918 --> 00:47:18,753 That's all, gentlemen. 534 00:47:20,213 --> 00:47:21,589 [laughing] 535 00:47:37,689 --> 00:47:39,899 [crowd clamoring] 536 00:47:39,899 --> 00:47:42,902 [orchestral music] 537 00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:08,094 [music continues] 538 00:48:26,070 --> 00:48:28,573 [actress as Maria Callas] It would be so nice to be able 539 00:48:28,573 --> 00:48:32,118 to come home and have a nice, honest shoulder to lean on. 540 00:48:32,118 --> 00:48:33,828 I had hoped that of my husband. 541 00:48:33,828 --> 00:48:35,371 I was so wrong. 542 00:48:35,371 --> 00:48:37,290 Glory went to his head. 543 00:48:37,290 --> 00:48:40,168 Glory goes to people's heads. Not my head. 544 00:48:40,168 --> 00:48:41,794 Glory terrifies me, 545 00:48:41,794 --> 00:48:44,505 because you're quite uncomfortable up there. 546 00:48:44,505 --> 00:48:47,258 But other people around you... [mock gasp] they get drunk. 547 00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:50,261 It's a wine that goes to the head. 548 00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:56,059 He was a good person, I thought. 549 00:48:56,059 --> 00:48:59,312 And, uh, with my mother, I was not well off, 550 00:48:59,312 --> 00:49:00,813 and I was alone, 551 00:49:00,813 --> 00:49:03,107 and I felt that this person really loved me, 552 00:49:03,107 --> 00:49:07,278 but, uh, I'm afraid that he loved, uh, what I represented. 553 00:49:07,278 --> 00:49:11,282 He wanted so much that I be La Divina. 554 00:49:11,282 --> 00:49:14,285 For instance, he was taking things, um, out on people, 555 00:49:14,285 --> 00:49:16,954 as he was nothing special. 556 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,759 [Frost] You mentioned you were persecuted. 557 00:49:29,759 --> 00:49:31,594 When were you-- What period of your life 558 00:49:31,594 --> 00:49:33,346 were you referring to? At the end of your...? 559 00:49:33,346 --> 00:49:36,307 Oh, when I separated from my husband, that was very hard, 560 00:49:36,307 --> 00:49:38,267 and about two years before. 561 00:49:38,267 --> 00:49:41,646 I don't know why it was sort of a style to attack... 562 00:49:42,522 --> 00:49:43,856 to attack me. 563 00:49:43,856 --> 00:49:46,484 And I'm the kind of type that cannot defend myself, 564 00:49:46,484 --> 00:49:47,777 because I find it useless. 565 00:49:47,777 --> 00:49:51,155 First of all, the newspapermen have the last word, 566 00:49:51,155 --> 00:49:53,116 so it's no use-- You fight. 567 00:49:53,116 --> 00:49:56,244 And then I... I don't like to defend myself. 568 00:49:56,244 --> 00:49:58,412 I feel that time takes care of things. 569 00:49:58,412 --> 00:50:01,707 In what way were you pers-- You were blamed for things that weren't your-- 570 00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:03,251 Well, I was blamed for things. 571 00:50:03,251 --> 00:50:04,919 I was misunderstood. 572 00:50:04,919 --> 00:50:08,172 Uh, they took me for fiery, tempestuous, 573 00:50:08,172 --> 00:50:12,593 canceling performances, and this and that, and there was no end to that. 574 00:50:12,593 --> 00:50:14,470 I have canceled performances, uh, 575 00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:16,848 but very few in comparison to other singers. 576 00:50:16,848 --> 00:50:18,599 I was very famous, I suppose. 577 00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:21,769 It's a compliment, again, but when I was not well, 578 00:50:21,769 --> 00:50:24,355 I could not do performances, so... 579 00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:26,858 I was blamed that, you know... 580 00:50:26,858 --> 00:50:29,318 And so these things, uh, you know, hurt, 581 00:50:29,318 --> 00:50:33,322 and at a certain moment you have to rest to, urn... 582 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,325 re-dimension things and to... 583 00:50:37,785 --> 00:50:41,122 You say you plan to get divorced when this new law comes in... in Italy? 584 00:50:41,122 --> 00:50:42,331 Yes. 585 00:50:42,331 --> 00:50:44,834 I've been separated for 11 years. 586 00:50:44,834 --> 00:50:47,086 - Yes. -[laughing] It's a long time. 587 00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,881 [jazz piano plays] 588 00:50:55,887 --> 00:50:59,432 [jazz band plays "Stormy Weather"] 589 00:50:59,432 --> 00:51:02,268 [distant chattering, laughter] 590 00:51:08,357 --> 00:51:11,527 [actress as Maria Callas] Aristo was adorable. 591 00:51:11,527 --> 00:51:12,987 Straight and fearless. 592 00:51:13,946 --> 00:51:16,991 And his boyish attitude made him irresistible. 593 00:51:18,367 --> 00:51:22,163 He was only rarely difficult and uncompromising, 594 00:51:22,163 --> 00:51:24,624 unlike some of his friends. 595 00:51:24,624 --> 00:51:26,667 He could be generous to a fault, 596 00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:30,463 and I don't mean only materialistically. 597 00:51:30,463 --> 00:51:31,881 He was never petty. 598 00:51:32,798 --> 00:51:37,845 He never interfered with my art, except to tell me that I should not feel 599 00:51:37,845 --> 00:51:41,641 under any obligation to continue my singing career. 600 00:51:42,558 --> 00:51:46,145 Obviously, he said, the stress had come to be too great, 601 00:51:46,145 --> 00:51:48,648 and as I had more than done my duty-- 602 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:51,275 His words, not mine-- 603 00:51:51,275 --> 00:51:56,239 I was entitled to relax and enjoy my well-earned money. 604 00:51:58,532 --> 00:52:00,701 He would have liked for me to make films, 605 00:52:00,701 --> 00:52:04,538 as he believed it would have been less tiring for me. 606 00:52:04,538 --> 00:52:06,874 [jazz continues] 607 00:52:10,628 --> 00:52:16,092 Dear Walter, I'll probably rest for the beginning of the coming year. 608 00:52:16,509 --> 00:52:19,887 I owe it to myself and to my voice. 609 00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:27,311 Next year I'll start again, but right now, I'll just let myself be tired of resting 610 00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:31,274 until I feel like working again, and will then work. 611 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,485 I've really lost interest in my art, 612 00:52:34,485 --> 00:52:36,487 with all the pushing my husband did, 613 00:52:37,321 --> 00:52:42,576 so now I intend to love my art by desiring it. 614 00:52:43,869 --> 00:52:48,124 [jazz continues] 615 00:52:48,124 --> 00:52:50,626 But I must confirm what everybody says. 616 00:52:50,626 --> 00:52:52,295 You've really changed completely. 617 00:52:52,295 --> 00:52:54,422 You're another woman. Are you happy? 618 00:52:55,631 --> 00:52:57,091 Well, uh... 619 00:52:57,091 --> 00:53:01,220 I am much happier, but no real artist could be happy. 620 00:53:01,220 --> 00:53:06,058 It has been said that even your voice has changed in quality. 621 00:53:07,143 --> 00:53:09,854 An artist develops in years. 622 00:53:09,854 --> 00:53:14,734 Um, shall we say that now you've become a tamed animal? 623 00:53:14,734 --> 00:53:18,612 Before, you're just... you know, you just do things by instinct. 624 00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:23,784 I still do. In fact, if people come during... to my performances, 625 00:53:23,784 --> 00:53:26,162 they will never find them exactly the same. 626 00:53:26,162 --> 00:53:29,832 Because I feel that it should be, at the moment, given... 627 00:53:30,791 --> 00:53:31,959 uh, instinctively. 628 00:53:31,959 --> 00:53:37,965 But, uh, we also learn, we suffer, we develop, we mature, 629 00:53:37,965 --> 00:53:44,096 so therefore, from year to year, we, of course, change our interpretation. 630 00:53:44,096 --> 00:53:47,224 But, uh, I have to feel what I do. 631 00:53:47,725 --> 00:53:49,852 I have to like people to be with them. 632 00:53:50,728 --> 00:53:54,482 I just cannot learn the art of being a hypocrite. 633 00:53:54,482 --> 00:53:55,608 - That's-- - I wish I could. 634 00:53:57,568 --> 00:54:00,696 [intro to Bizet's Habanera playing] 635 00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:07,328 Love is a rebellious child 636 00:54:07,328 --> 00:54:11,165 That no one can tame 637 00:54:11,165 --> 00:54:14,668 And it's in vain that we call for it 638 00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:18,714 If it suits him to refuse 639 00:54:18,714 --> 00:54:22,385 Nothing does it, threats or prayers 640 00:54:22,385 --> 00:54:26,222 One speaks well The other remains silent 641 00:54:26,222 --> 00:54:30,184 And it's the latter that I prefer 642 00:54:30,184 --> 00:54:35,731 He didn't say anything but I like him 643 00:54:36,232 --> 00:54:39,235 Love... 644 00:54:47,410 --> 00:54:50,955 Love is a bohemian child 645 00:54:50,955 --> 00:54:54,208 It has never, never known any law 646 00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:58,254 If you don't love me, I love you 647 00:54:58,254 --> 00:55:01,966 And if I love you, beware 648 00:55:03,092 --> 00:55:05,886 If you don't love me 649 00:55:05,886 --> 00:55:10,182 If you don't love me, I love you 650 00:55:11,225 --> 00:55:13,477 But if I love you 651 00:55:13,477 --> 00:55:18,983 If I love you 652 00:55:18,983 --> 00:55:24,738 Beware 653 00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:40,754 If you don't love me 654 00:55:40,754 --> 00:55:45,092 If you don't love me, I love you 655 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:48,596 But if I love you 656 00:55:48,596 --> 00:55:55,603 If I love you, beware 657 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:05,613 The bird you hoped to catch 658 00:56:05,613 --> 00:56:08,991 Flapped its wings and flew away 659 00:56:08,991 --> 00:56:12,495 Love is far, if you wait for it 660 00:56:12,495 --> 00:56:16,457 When you wait for it no longer It's there 661 00:56:16,457 --> 00:56:20,127 All around you, quickly, quickly 662 00:56:20,127 --> 00:56:23,881 It goes and then it comes back 663 00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:27,676 You think you hold it, it avoids you 664 00:56:27,676 --> 00:56:32,890 You think you avoid it, it holds you 665 00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:36,519 Love... 666 00:56:44,652 --> 00:56:48,030 Love is a bohemian child 667 00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:51,367 It has never, never known any law 668 00:56:51,367 --> 00:56:55,496 If you don't love me, I love you 669 00:56:55,496 --> 00:56:58,916 And if I love you, beware 670 00:57:00,334 --> 00:57:03,003 If you don't love me 671 00:57:03,003 --> 00:57:07,299 If you don't love me, I love you 672 00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:10,719 But if I love you 673 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,558 If I love you 674 00:57:16,183 --> 00:57:23,190 Beware 675 00:57:35,536 --> 00:57:38,455 If you don't love me 676 00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:42,918 If you don't love me, I love you 677 00:57:43,877 --> 00:57:46,255 But if I love you 678 00:57:46,255 --> 00:57:49,466 If I love you 679 00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:56,473 Beware 680 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,437 -[music ends] -[cheering, applause] 681 00:58:19,204 --> 00:58:21,498 [applause fades] 682 00:58:26,003 --> 00:58:29,340 [gentle piano music] 683 00:58:37,181 --> 00:58:39,391 [Callas speaking French] In France, people let you be. 684 00:58:39,391 --> 00:58:41,518 That's something I really enjoy. 685 00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:45,439 That's why I chose to stay here for now, 686 00:58:45,439 --> 00:58:48,567 at least for a few months, because anyhow, we travel all the time. 687 00:58:48,567 --> 00:58:51,195 Sure, I stay at home a lot. 688 00:58:51,195 --> 00:58:53,739 People leave you alone, here. 689 00:58:53,739 --> 00:58:56,158 They don't smother or bother you. 690 00:58:56,158 --> 00:58:58,535 French people have a very special way... 691 00:58:59,578 --> 00:59:03,040 of loving and respecting artists. 692 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,417 People have a particular subtlety here. 693 00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:09,588 No one comes at your door to watch you like some kind of strange beast. 694 00:59:09,588 --> 00:59:14,426 Whereas in some countries, people do that. You're in a city to give a concert 695 00:59:14,426 --> 00:59:16,887 and you can't even walk the streets. 696 00:59:16,887 --> 00:59:19,723 They don't let you go shopping. 697 00:59:19,723 --> 00:59:23,060 It's bad because then you stay locked up inside. 698 00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:25,896 But we all need to get some fresh air 699 00:59:25,896 --> 00:59:28,607 and to live freely, it's vital for our nerves. 700 00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:35,531 [piano continues] 701 00:59:38,867 --> 00:59:42,329 I think that, as a woman, I'm perfectly normal. 702 00:59:42,830 --> 00:59:44,581 As for my character, 703 00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:49,545 do you mean on the stage of life or on the theater stage? 704 00:59:49,545 --> 00:59:50,963 [man speaking French] Maybe both? 705 00:59:50,963 --> 00:59:54,591 No, they're two completely different things. 706 00:59:54,591 --> 01:00:00,305 Yet equal. The spiritual part is always mine. 707 01:00:00,848 --> 01:00:03,142 It belongs to me, and... 708 01:00:03,767 --> 01:00:07,354 You don't see that in life, because you see just a woman 709 01:00:07,354 --> 01:00:11,024 who likes to walk down the streets, simple, joyful... 710 01:00:12,401 --> 01:00:17,614 who doesn't like to be watched because, frankly, I get embarrassed. 711 01:00:17,614 --> 01:00:22,536 When I'm complimented on the street, I don't know where to hide. 712 01:00:22,536 --> 01:00:24,621 Because obviously it... 713 01:00:25,205 --> 01:00:27,583 it's a bit embarrassing. 714 01:00:28,709 --> 01:00:31,462 Call it shyness or whatever. 715 01:00:31,462 --> 01:00:33,255 And that's hard to believe 716 01:00:33,255 --> 01:00:37,593 because people have a different impression of me as Callas. 717 01:00:37,593 --> 01:00:41,722 Whereas the woman has simple tastes, likes to watch TV, read nonsense, 718 01:00:41,722 --> 01:00:46,477 listen to pretty things, of course, read... 719 01:00:47,102 --> 01:00:51,064 and play the intellectual, which I'm not as I've never had the time. 720 01:00:51,940 --> 01:00:55,110 I've always been working on the stage, so... 721 01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:58,655 As an intellectual, I just learn here and there, that's all. 722 01:00:59,281 --> 01:01:03,076 ["Zorba's Dance" playing] 723 01:01:06,371 --> 01:01:10,250 [no audible dialogue] 724 01:01:21,887 --> 01:01:24,389 [music continues] 725 01:01:30,062 --> 01:01:32,856 [no audible dialogue] 726 01:01:41,073 --> 01:01:43,325 [music continues] 727 01:02:02,761 --> 01:02:06,348 [music continues] 728 01:02:20,988 --> 01:02:24,032 -[music continues on soundtrack] -[audience applauds] 729 01:02:31,582 --> 01:02:33,166 [announcer] Maria Callas! 730 01:02:40,841 --> 01:02:45,095 [Callas speaking Greek] For the last few months, I only opened my mouth to laugh, 731 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:47,723 thank God! 732 01:02:47,723 --> 01:02:52,185 I haven't practiced every day for a long time, 733 01:02:52,185 --> 01:02:54,688 and I just had a look at the lyrics, 734 01:02:54,688 --> 01:02:56,773 so I may stumble on the words. 735 01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:58,233 I'll do my best. 736 01:02:58,233 --> 01:02:59,067 [applause] 737 01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:09,620 [piano music playing] 738 01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:14,082 [begins singing] 739 01:03:31,475 --> 01:03:34,478 [singing continues] 740 01:03:42,194 --> 01:03:45,822 -[song ends] -[applause] 741 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,586 [actress as Maria Callas] My dear and illustrious colleague, 742 01:03:59,586 --> 01:04:02,381 as I explained to you in my letter from Monte Carlo, 743 01:04:02,381 --> 01:04:07,135 I was operated on for a hernia and was unable to offer my beloved maestro 744 01:04:07,135 --> 01:04:09,805 the apogean performance he well-deserved. 745 01:04:10,931 --> 01:04:13,934 I do not have, dear friend, the physical strength 746 01:04:13,934 --> 01:04:15,936 to face the arena once more. 747 01:04:16,687 --> 01:04:21,149 Everyone has faith in me-- you, the maestro, the critics, 748 01:04:21,149 --> 01:04:25,946 but I cannot get over that evening at the Rome Opera and how much I suffered. 749 01:04:26,613 --> 01:04:30,283 Perhaps if I had been 20 or 30, I wouldn't care. 750 01:04:30,283 --> 01:04:33,453 And the joyful dance of the spirit, as you say, 751 01:04:33,453 --> 01:04:36,081 would help me forget and move forward. 752 01:04:36,081 --> 01:04:41,086 But I don't think I have the strength to risk facing such cruelty any longer. 753 01:04:41,086 --> 01:04:43,672 My soul would not recover. 754 01:04:44,548 --> 01:04:46,133 At least that's how I feel now. 755 01:04:48,051 --> 01:04:49,428 I need time. 756 01:04:50,178 --> 01:04:54,433 I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for having written to me 757 01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:57,436 and for the respect you have shown me. 758 01:04:57,436 --> 01:05:00,147 Please know that I will never forget it. 759 01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:03,066 And thank your wife also. 760 01:05:03,066 --> 01:05:04,860 I envy your family. 761 01:05:05,402 --> 01:05:08,071 There is no greater wealth on Earth. 762 01:05:08,071 --> 01:05:10,449 [music plays on soundtrack] 763 01:05:17,164 --> 01:05:19,499 [no audible dialogue] 764 01:05:39,144 --> 01:05:46,151 I lived for art 765 01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:54,826 I lived for love 766 01:05:56,620 --> 01:06:01,416 I never harmed 767 01:06:01,416 --> 01:06:07,214 A living soul 768 01:06:08,507 --> 01:06:15,472 With a furtive hand 769 01:06:15,806 --> 01:06:22,813 I soothed as many misfortunes That I knew of 770 01:06:39,037 --> 01:06:46,044 Always with true faith 771 01:06:46,962 --> 01:06:50,632 My prayer 772 01:06:50,632 --> 01:06:57,305 Rose to the holy shrines 773 01:06:57,305 --> 01:07:04,312 Always with true faith 774 01:07:04,855 --> 01:07:11,695 I brought flowers to the altar 775 01:07:16,992 --> 01:07:22,497 In my hour of sorrow 776 01:07:22,497 --> 01:07:28,336 Why, why, Lord? 777 01:07:28,336 --> 01:07:35,343 Why do you repay me so? 778 01:07:45,187 --> 01:07:50,025 I gave jewels 779 01:07:50,025 --> 01:07:54,738 To the Madonna's mantle 780 01:07:54,738 --> 01:07:59,910 And I offered my singing 781 01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:06,917 To the stars, to heaven Which shone more beautifully 782 01:08:07,709 --> 01:08:12,464 In my hour of sorrow 783 01:08:12,464 --> 01:08:19,471 Why, why, Lord? 784 01:08:37,989 --> 01:08:44,996 Why do you repay me... 785 01:08:52,587 --> 01:08:56,841 So? 786 01:08:56,841 --> 01:08:58,843 [holding final note] 787 01:09:01,137 --> 01:09:03,974 -[music ends] -[applause] 788 01:09:28,623 --> 01:09:29,833 [applause fades] 789 01:09:29,833 --> 01:09:34,129 As you look back, are there things you'd like to change, 790 01:09:34,129 --> 01:09:37,173 or do you buy the package wholesale? 791 01:09:37,173 --> 01:09:38,675 I'll buy the package wholesale. 792 01:09:38,675 --> 01:09:43,430 My God, I never would have dreamed to come to such a privileged position, 793 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:45,348 with its good and with its bad. 794 01:09:46,349 --> 01:09:49,185 I have been... I have had the possibility 795 01:09:49,185 --> 01:09:53,023 of having inside, something that I could expose to the people, 796 01:09:53,023 --> 01:09:55,108 give to the people and be understood. 797 01:09:56,109 --> 01:09:59,070 [sighs] You call this, uh, little? 798 01:10:00,322 --> 01:10:02,407 I have had-- On the other hand, 799 01:10:02,407 --> 01:10:06,953 I didn't have a family, as I wanted to, and this and that, but... 800 01:10:08,121 --> 01:10:10,540 being right here is already a privilege. 801 01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:15,879 Being able to talk, even if I'm talking badly, is a privilege. 802 01:10:18,506 --> 01:10:20,467 [siren wailing in distance] 803 01:10:22,469 --> 01:10:25,555 [interviewer] Miss Callas, how did it feel 804 01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:28,183 to come back to New York and the Metropolitan 805 01:10:28,183 --> 01:10:31,728 after an absence of seven long years? 806 01:10:31,728 --> 01:10:34,522 [Callas] First of all, enormous happiness to, uh, 807 01:10:34,522 --> 01:10:36,441 be, shall we say, at home. 808 01:10:36,441 --> 01:10:40,653 Then I must say, though, that, uh, all the New Yorkers 809 01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:43,406 really made it, uh... 810 01:10:43,406 --> 01:10:46,159 quite clear that they've considered me back home, 811 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:49,704 which was, of course, the first happy thought about it. 812 01:10:49,704 --> 01:10:53,458 Before I went back, I really sincerely tell you, 813 01:10:53,458 --> 01:10:55,251 - I was terrified. -[chuckles] 814 01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:56,336 I didn't want to, 815 01:10:56,336 --> 01:10:58,838 and I was trying to find excuses not to go. 816 01:11:03,635 --> 01:11:05,804 Dennis, how about you? What brings you out to the line? 817 01:11:05,804 --> 01:11:08,223 Is it Miss Callas or just plain a love of opera? 818 01:11:08,223 --> 01:11:10,433 Maria Callas. She's the greatest. 819 01:11:10,433 --> 01:11:12,936 Only for her would I do this. Nobody else. 820 01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,980 How about you, Lex? What brings you out in the line? 821 01:11:15,980 --> 01:11:18,066 Well, I've come specifically to see Callas. 822 01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:20,568 I think it's a shame that she hasn't been here. 823 01:11:20,568 --> 01:11:22,862 And now that she has agreed to come back, 824 01:11:22,862 --> 01:11:25,365 I think to miss her would be really a crime. 825 01:11:25,365 --> 01:11:28,952 This woman is undoubtedly the greatest singer of this century and... 826 01:11:28,952 --> 01:11:31,037 Why do you think she's so great? 827 01:11:31,037 --> 01:11:34,332 Well, first of all, as a technician, she's magnificent. 828 01:11:34,332 --> 01:11:38,878 As an actress, she is-- There's no word to describe her. 829 01:11:38,878 --> 01:11:42,173 And just her magnetism. She could sing a poor performance-- 830 01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:44,968 uh, I've never had an occasion to hear it-- but she could, 831 01:11:44,968 --> 01:11:47,345 and she would still be just as magnetic as ever. 832 01:11:47,345 --> 01:11:49,514 This woman is just amazing. 833 01:11:49,514 --> 01:11:52,684 Every line, every... every rest in the score 834 01:11:52,684 --> 01:11:55,145 has some meaning to Madame Callas. 835 01:11:55,145 --> 01:11:57,856 In your eyes, then, it's just pure, raw genius. 836 01:11:57,856 --> 01:11:59,983 You bet. [chuckles] 837 01:11:59,983 --> 01:12:01,985 How long have you been in the line? 838 01:12:01,985 --> 01:12:04,320 I've been in line since yesterday at 4:00. 839 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,322 How have you passed the time? 840 01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:09,826 I've... just sat, and went across and had something to eat. 841 01:12:10,076 --> 01:12:12,787 [interviewer] What's going to happen when she finally gets to appear here 842 01:12:12,787 --> 01:12:14,330 after seven years? 843 01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:17,959 She'll get around a 30-minute ovation, and most likely it will be standing, 844 01:12:17,959 --> 01:12:20,211 even if I have to be the only one to stand. 845 01:12:20,211 --> 01:12:22,547 - I'm very sure. - You think you'll have company? 846 01:12:22,547 --> 01:12:24,883 Oh, I'm sure I will. Very sure, yes. 847 01:12:24,883 --> 01:12:28,052 [music plays] 848 01:12:28,052 --> 01:12:32,307 [cheering, applause] 849 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:43,151 [Callas] As soon as I came out, the applause started enormously. 850 01:12:43,151 --> 01:12:45,236 [interviewer] And you had to stand there freezed-- 851 01:12:45,236 --> 01:12:47,280 - freezing in a position. - I had to... Exactly, freezing 852 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,241 in a position that you don't know how and what to do about, 853 01:12:50,241 --> 01:12:52,076 but especially the great emotion. 854 01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:53,828 I wish we weren't emotional. 855 01:12:53,828 --> 01:12:56,831 I mean, I really was, uh, crying, and I had to sing. 856 01:12:56,831 --> 01:13:00,293 You know, it kept on for about ten minutes during my singing. 857 01:13:00,293 --> 01:13:03,713 I was just too emotional to do anything really properly well. 858 01:13:03,713 --> 01:13:06,841 It was so overwhelming. Really incredible. 859 01:13:06,841 --> 01:13:09,260 [interviewer] I think that the warmth of the reception itself is... 860 01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:12,263 [Callas] The warmth of the American public, I'm afraid, is unique. 861 01:13:12,263 --> 01:13:15,767 And they made a point of showing me how much they love me, 862 01:13:15,767 --> 01:13:19,270 so they deserve every best part of me, actually. 863 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:22,607 I couldn't even start to thank all of the people, 864 01:13:22,607 --> 01:13:25,568 the letters, the presents, the flowers, 865 01:13:25,568 --> 01:13:29,822 the adoration that I have had, which I never, never thought, honestly. 866 01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:32,450 That was really unique. 867 01:13:32,450 --> 01:13:34,536 [clamoring] 868 01:13:44,462 --> 01:13:48,174 [man speaking French] It seems nowadays, the public is much more aware 869 01:13:48,174 --> 01:13:52,679 of the effort you put in, of all the tension it involves, 870 01:13:52,679 --> 01:13:54,639 - and the love... -[speaking French] That's true. 871 01:13:54,639 --> 01:13:57,892 A lot of love and a lot of gratitude, curiously. 872 01:13:58,309 --> 01:14:01,854 They thank me all the time. It surprises me, you know. 873 01:14:01,854 --> 01:14:03,773 [man] So you're a happy woman? 874 01:14:03,773 --> 01:14:07,110 That's true, I should think so more often. 875 01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:08,695 - You should. - I should. 876 01:14:08,695 --> 01:14:11,906 - It's the best way to be... - I just don't always realize it. 877 01:14:12,907 --> 01:14:16,744 What sort of music makes you feel... at home? 878 01:14:17,036 --> 01:14:19,122 Of course, the music 879 01:14:19,122 --> 01:14:22,041 of Rossini, Donizetti, Bellini especially... 880 01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:24,544 - That's... - Bel canto. 881 01:14:24,544 --> 01:14:26,421 Bel canto, exactly. 882 01:14:26,421 --> 01:14:32,844 Do you feel you've given Bel canto something special, which is yourself? 883 01:14:34,304 --> 01:14:37,265 I realize people like it a lot more. 884 01:14:37,265 --> 01:14:40,727 Rather than saying: "Opera is so boring!" 885 01:14:40,727 --> 01:14:43,313 Unfortunately, opera was considered boring. 886 01:14:43,313 --> 01:14:48,234 Obviously, if it's sung badly, it can be very boring. 887 01:14:48,901 --> 01:14:50,945 But also... 888 01:14:51,404 --> 01:14:55,533 it's the way in which I express myself best. 889 01:14:55,533 --> 01:14:59,704 It's my world, if you like. 890 01:15:01,247 --> 01:15:05,126 I feel elevated above everything. 891 01:15:05,126 --> 01:15:10,214 It's my way of expressing myself and of giving, perhaps... 892 01:15:11,090 --> 01:15:16,095 giving the public perhaps an illusion of something better in life. 893 01:15:16,638 --> 01:15:19,140 [music plays] 894 01:15:27,607 --> 01:15:34,614 I didn't think I would see you 895 01:15:37,408 --> 01:15:44,415 So quickly extinct, o flower 896 01:15:48,711 --> 01:15:53,132 You have faded 897 01:15:53,132 --> 01:15:58,096 As love 898 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:04,894 That lasted only one day 899 01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:20,493 That lasted only one day 900 01:16:39,429 --> 01:16:46,436 You have faded as love 901 01:17:01,075 --> 01:17:08,082 That lasted only one day 902 01:17:17,759 --> 01:17:24,766 Perhaps new strength 903 01:17:27,185 --> 01:17:34,192 My tears will bring to you 904 01:17:36,778 --> 01:17:43,785 But our love 905 01:17:53,544 --> 01:18:00,635 My tears cannot revive 906 01:18:00,635 --> 01:18:05,473 I didn't believe 907 01:18:12,355 --> 01:18:19,362 That love 908 01:18:20,154 --> 01:18:25,660 Would only last one day 909 01:18:29,413 --> 01:18:36,170 Would only last one day 910 01:18:44,053 --> 01:18:51,060 As love... 911 01:19:31,017 --> 01:19:34,312 [holding final note] 912 01:19:38,858 --> 01:19:40,860 [music ends] 913 01:19:43,529 --> 01:19:46,824 [actress as Maria Callas] February 18, 1965. 914 01:19:46,824 --> 01:19:48,784 To Elvira de Hidalgo. 915 01:19:49,327 --> 01:19:54,832 Dear Elvira, my gratitude for your affection is immeasurable. 916 01:19:54,832 --> 01:19:58,336 You know me. I'm shy and rather strange, 917 01:19:58,336 --> 01:20:00,963 but you know how to love me as I am. 918 01:20:01,756 --> 01:20:07,929 The rehearsals went magnificently well, with the high notes just like before. 919 01:20:07,929 --> 01:20:11,557 In the third act, I had a moment of panic and fatigue, 920 01:20:11,557 --> 01:20:17,229 but I still sang the C well, and even the last time, superbly well. 921 01:20:17,229 --> 01:20:22,443 If I manage to control myself, everything should go as planned. 922 01:20:22,443 --> 01:20:28,240 I am still studying, and I think of you with so much love and respect. 923 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:29,575 Your Maria. 924 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:32,578 To Grace Kelly. 925 01:20:33,329 --> 01:20:36,082 Dear Grace, I wanted to answer you sooner, 926 01:20:36,082 --> 01:20:38,834 but I was busy gathering my nerves and strength 927 01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:41,420 to fight back on the next performance. 928 01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:43,965 It went perfectly, thank God. 929 01:20:44,882 --> 01:20:47,051 It's hard work, isn't it? 930 01:20:47,051 --> 01:20:50,262 There's always some enemy ready for a moment of weakness. 931 01:20:51,305 --> 01:20:54,725 Well, I'm dying to finish my work so I can take a nice rest. 932 01:20:54,725 --> 01:20:56,727 I certainly need it. 933 01:20:56,727 --> 01:20:59,480 I do so hope to see you and Rainier very soon. 934 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:04,360 And thank you, dear Grace, for your lovely flowers and letters. 935 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,737 Lots of love, Maria. 936 01:21:06,737 --> 01:21:09,991 PS Aristo sends you both his love. 937 01:21:09,991 --> 01:21:13,244 -[applause] -[spectator] Bravo, Maria! 938 01:21:13,244 --> 01:21:18,124 -[applause] -[spectators] Bravo! Bravo! 939 01:21:18,124 --> 01:21:21,377 [cheering, applause continue] 940 01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:24,380 [singing begins] 941 01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:53,826 -[holding final note] -[cheering, applause] 942 01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:58,122 [singing] 943 01:22:05,129 --> 01:22:07,882 [singing continues] 944 01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:24,982 [singing continues] 945 01:22:43,459 --> 01:22:45,920 [applause, cheering] 946 01:22:48,005 --> 01:22:49,632 [music ends] 947 01:22:49,632 --> 01:22:52,927 [applause continues] 948 01:22:52,927 --> 01:22:55,054 [spectator] Bravo! Bravo! 949 01:22:55,054 --> 01:22:56,347 [applause fades] 950 01:22:57,473 --> 01:22:59,975 [indistinct chattering] 951 01:23:05,856 --> 01:23:07,274 [no audible dialogue] 952 01:23:07,817 --> 01:23:09,777 Ladies and gentlemen, 953 01:23:09,777 --> 01:23:12,988 since the beginning of this performance, 954 01:23:12,988 --> 01:23:16,951 madam Maria Callas has been trying to overcome extreme weakness 955 01:23:16,951 --> 01:23:18,619 and severe depression. 956 01:23:19,161 --> 01:23:23,207 Unfortunately, despite her exceptional courage, 957 01:23:23,207 --> 01:23:26,919 for which we thank her, and the care of her doctor, 958 01:23:26,919 --> 01:23:30,631 it is absolutely impossible for her to finish this performance. 959 01:23:30,631 --> 01:23:31,549 [chattering] 960 01:23:31,549 --> 01:23:34,051 She is deeply distraught about this, 961 01:23:34,051 --> 01:23:37,513 and we ask you to join us in excusing her. 962 01:23:37,888 --> 01:23:39,974 [applause, murmuring] 963 01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:49,525 [applause fading] 964 01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:17,469 [actress as Maria Callas] June 4, 1965. 965 01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:22,016 Dear Elvira, I've wanted to write to you for a while now, 966 01:24:22,016 --> 01:24:25,102 but I couldn't find the time or, rather, the energy. 967 01:24:26,103 --> 01:24:27,897 Changing my voice and technique 968 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:30,941 during the performances did no good for my nerves, 969 01:24:30,941 --> 01:24:34,570 which were already strained after all these years. 970 01:24:35,946 --> 01:24:39,241 After New York, my body shut down. 971 01:24:39,241 --> 01:24:41,327 My blood pressure dropped to seven. 972 01:24:42,119 --> 01:24:43,621 I took a month off to rest, 973 01:24:43,621 --> 01:24:47,958 but it was obvious that my nerves could not bear a huge role like Norma. 974 01:24:49,043 --> 01:24:51,295 Now my fatigue is endless, 975 01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,841 and my rage even more so for having crumbled like this. 976 01:24:58,010 --> 01:25:02,348 I found an apartment, and I'm taking care of it for the moment. 977 01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:05,309 36 Avenue Georges Mandel. 978 01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:08,729 I am at peace here at home. 979 01:25:09,855 --> 01:25:12,900 Peace that has nothing to do with happiness, 980 01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:15,527 but which at least allows my nerves to calm down. 981 01:25:16,528 --> 01:25:19,865 They were the real culprit for everything, as you once said. 982 01:25:21,867 --> 01:25:26,455 I began at 13... and now I am 41. 983 01:25:26,455 --> 01:25:29,750 I'm not complaining, but it's a long time. 984 01:25:30,501 --> 01:25:33,587 The soul burns out, and the energy, too. 985 01:25:35,381 --> 01:25:36,924 I'm studying alone. 986 01:25:36,924 --> 01:25:39,885 I have my records to teach me what I used to do 987 01:25:39,885 --> 01:25:43,055 and my tape recorder to play me back what I do now 988 01:25:43,055 --> 01:25:44,473 and what I shouldn't do. 989 01:25:44,473 --> 01:25:46,267 If it works, all the better. 990 01:25:46,267 --> 01:25:48,269 If not, I'll give it all up. 991 01:25:49,144 --> 01:25:51,272 Besides, I have Aristo. 992 01:25:51,272 --> 01:25:53,023 What more could I want? 993 01:25:53,983 --> 01:25:58,112 Don't you find Aristo has changed a lot for the better? 994 01:26:08,914 --> 01:26:10,916 [no audible dialogue] 995 01:26:15,170 --> 01:26:17,131 [reporter] You've given up your, uh, citizenship. 996 01:26:17,131 --> 01:26:18,716 - That's correct? - Yes, that is correct. 997 01:26:18,716 --> 01:26:20,592 And you're taking your Greek citizenship back? 998 01:26:20,592 --> 01:26:22,594 I've already taken my Greek citizenship back. 999 01:26:22,594 --> 01:26:24,680 What is the reason behind this, Madame Callas? 1000 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,308 Well, the real reason I could even say it 1001 01:26:27,308 --> 01:26:32,563 is that I am a free woman, you see, because, uh, during, um... 1002 01:26:32,563 --> 01:26:34,773 with the Greek law, 1003 01:26:34,773 --> 01:26:37,901 who is not married after 1946, in church, 1004 01:26:38,652 --> 01:26:40,070 is not married. 1005 01:26:41,363 --> 01:26:43,365 -[sighs] So you understand? - I understand completely. 1006 01:26:43,365 --> 01:26:46,243 Now, do you have any intention to marry Mr. Onassis? 1007 01:26:46,243 --> 01:26:49,371 Oh, well, those are not questions to, uh... 1008 01:26:50,372 --> 01:26:52,833 No, right now I'm a free woman, and very happy to be, 1009 01:26:52,833 --> 01:26:56,545 so that is why I had to give up this American citizenship, unfortunately. 1010 01:26:56,545 --> 01:26:58,464 You got... you understand? 1011 01:27:02,801 --> 01:27:05,471 [actress as Maria Callas] Aristo, my love, 1012 01:27:05,471 --> 01:27:08,307 I know this is a meager birthday present, 1013 01:27:08,307 --> 01:27:11,977 but I must tell you that, after eight and a half years, 1014 01:27:11,977 --> 01:27:14,730 with so much we went through, 1015 01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:18,776 I am happy to tell you from the depths of my heart, 1016 01:27:18,776 --> 01:27:20,361 I am proud of you. 1017 01:27:20,944 --> 01:27:23,614 I love you, body and soul, 1018 01:27:23,614 --> 01:27:26,283 and only wish that you feel the same. 1019 01:27:27,117 --> 01:27:31,663 I feel privileged to have reached the highest level in a tough career 1020 01:27:31,663 --> 01:27:34,666 and to be graced by God to have found you, 1021 01:27:34,666 --> 01:27:38,212 who went through hell also and reached the heights, 1022 01:27:38,212 --> 01:27:41,131 and to have us together, as we are. 1023 01:27:43,175 --> 01:27:48,263 Try, oh, please do, to keep us united always, 1024 01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:51,850 for I do need your love and respect forever. 1025 01:27:54,144 --> 01:28:01,026 I am too proud to admit it, but know that you are my very breath, 1026 01:28:01,735 --> 01:28:04,780 brain, pride and tenderness, 1027 01:28:05,322 --> 01:28:08,492 that if you could see into my feelings for you, 1028 01:28:08,492 --> 01:28:13,539 you would feel the strongest and richest man in the entire world. 1029 01:28:15,416 --> 01:28:17,835 This is not a child's letter. 1030 01:28:18,585 --> 01:28:23,715 This is a hurt, tired, proud woman that gives you 1031 01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:27,678 the most fresh and youthful sentiments ever felt. 1032 01:28:28,512 --> 01:28:30,180 Never forget that, 1033 01:28:31,056 --> 01:28:34,143 and be always as tender with me as these days. 1034 01:28:35,394 --> 01:28:37,896 And you make me the queen of the world... 1035 01:28:38,981 --> 01:28:40,065 my love. 1036 01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:43,444 I need affection and tenderness. 1037 01:28:44,361 --> 01:28:45,904 I am yours. 1038 01:28:45,904 --> 01:28:47,656 Do as you will with me. 1039 01:28:51,869 --> 01:28:53,036 Your soul... 1040 01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:55,205 Maria. 1041 01:29:09,052 --> 01:29:12,055 There is one prayer that I do. It's my own. 1042 01:29:12,055 --> 01:29:15,267 - I hope you won't laugh at me. - No. What is it? 1043 01:29:15,267 --> 01:29:18,437 Every now and then, I say, God, help me, uh... 1044 01:29:18,437 --> 01:29:22,149 give me what you want-- I have no choice, good or bad-- 1045 01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:26,403 but give me the strength also to be able to overcome it. 1046 01:29:37,539 --> 01:29:39,124 [actress as Maria Callas] Dear Elvira, 1047 01:29:39,124 --> 01:29:42,377 I'm doing fairly well, given the circumstances. 1048 01:29:42,377 --> 01:29:45,088 It's as if I've been hit hard over the head 1049 01:29:45,088 --> 01:29:47,174 and I still can't catch my breath. 1050 01:29:48,634 --> 01:29:51,011 I received three phone calls, 1051 01:29:51,011 --> 01:29:52,596 one I didn't answer. 1052 01:29:53,555 --> 01:29:57,309 When I answered the two others, it was... it was horrible for me. 1053 01:29:58,310 --> 01:30:03,398 As I told you, he is irresponsible, and therefore it's really disgusting for me. 1054 01:30:04,608 --> 01:30:08,612 I'm at home in Paris, trying to sort things out in my head, 1055 01:30:08,612 --> 01:30:10,781 which hurts so terribly. 1056 01:30:11,865 --> 01:30:14,576 I'm just trying to survive these few months. 1057 01:30:15,410 --> 01:30:18,580 I don't make too much effort, as my mind is weakened... 1058 01:30:19,581 --> 01:30:21,208 and so my psyche, too. 1059 01:30:22,918 --> 01:30:26,171 I really wouldn't know where to go to get a little rest. 1060 01:30:27,798 --> 01:30:29,216 I am so lost, 1061 01:30:29,758 --> 01:30:34,680 after so many years of work and sacrifices for one man, 1062 01:30:35,597 --> 01:30:38,892 that I find myself incapable of knowing where to go. 1063 01:30:39,685 --> 01:30:41,436 It's the last straw. 1064 01:30:45,357 --> 01:30:48,735 Anyway, if you wish, write to me here. 1065 01:30:49,570 --> 01:30:51,196 I send you all my love. 1066 01:30:51,989 --> 01:30:54,241 I hope that you don't worry too much about me. 1067 01:30:55,742 --> 01:30:57,578 God has always been my guide. 1068 01:30:58,704 --> 01:31:00,455 He will show me the way again, 1069 01:31:01,206 --> 01:31:05,127 and I hope that he will give me the strength to get through this crisis, too. 1070 01:31:07,087 --> 01:31:09,840 My dear, sweet, longtime friend. 1071 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,678 Your Maria, always. 1072 01:31:22,769 --> 01:31:26,148 [no audible dialogue] 1073 01:31:27,316 --> 01:31:30,360 [crowd cheering, whistling] 1074 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:31,987 [actress as Maria Callas] Thank you, dear Elvira, 1075 01:31:31,987 --> 01:31:33,739 thank you for your kind letter. 1076 01:31:34,448 --> 01:31:35,866 It's cruel, isn't it? 1077 01:31:35,866 --> 01:31:37,784 But they're both paying for it. 1078 01:31:37,784 --> 01:31:39,953 Or they will pay. You'll see. 1079 01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:44,541 What is worst of all is that he said nothing to me about the marriage. 1080 01:31:44,541 --> 01:31:48,795 I think he at least owed me that after nine years by his side. 1081 01:31:48,795 --> 01:31:52,215 I shouldn't have found out about it in the papers. 1082 01:31:52,215 --> 01:31:57,095 But I consider him a fool, and as such, I am erasing him from my mind. 1083 01:31:57,804 --> 01:32:00,140 I need to work as soon as possible. 1084 01:32:00,724 --> 01:32:03,852 Anyhow, I won't be able to do anything until next year. 1085 01:32:05,103 --> 01:32:08,357 I'm coping rather well under the circumstances, 1086 01:32:08,357 --> 01:32:11,193 and I thank you for all of your affection. 1087 01:32:11,193 --> 01:32:15,197 I will write to you soon to tell you about my possible projects, 1088 01:32:15,197 --> 01:32:17,699 given that I haven't decided anything for now. 1089 01:32:18,533 --> 01:32:20,786 All my affection and respect. 1090 01:32:21,620 --> 01:32:24,289 As always, your Maria. 1091 01:32:28,669 --> 01:32:32,464 [Callas] For nine years, you've been living a hidden life 1092 01:32:32,464 --> 01:32:35,676 and a humiliating life for a person like I am, 1093 01:32:35,676 --> 01:32:38,553 and you're not cured in two months, 1094 01:32:38,553 --> 01:32:41,473 and I don't have that much time to get cured. 1095 01:32:41,473 --> 01:32:43,892 Next year I've got to sing, somehow or another, 1096 01:32:43,892 --> 01:32:46,228 I don't care at what price. 1097 01:32:46,228 --> 01:32:48,146 I've given up a hell of a career, 1098 01:32:48,146 --> 01:32:51,650 and it's too easy to say, "Oh, thank you very much." 1099 01:32:51,650 --> 01:32:54,820 For eight years, nine years, we did our best to be happy. 1100 01:32:54,820 --> 01:32:57,197 "Oh, ain't that sweet?" as they say of all this. 1101 01:32:57,197 --> 01:32:59,157 It's so easy to say no one is immature. 1102 01:32:59,157 --> 01:33:03,537 Christianity says you must forgive, you must have no resentment. 1103 01:33:03,537 --> 01:33:05,330 I don't have resentment, but I have hurt. 1104 01:33:05,330 --> 01:33:07,082 How can I get rid of that? 1105 01:33:08,083 --> 01:33:10,335 One last cigarette, and you drive me home? 1106 01:33:10,335 --> 01:33:11,878 [lighter flicks] 1107 01:33:18,301 --> 01:33:21,054 [Frost] The phenomenal publicity that surrounds your friendship 1108 01:33:21,596 --> 01:33:22,973 with Aristotle Onassis, uh, 1109 01:33:22,973 --> 01:33:24,766 to what extent does that limit your life? 1110 01:33:24,766 --> 01:33:27,644 Does that, in fact, create a barrier that prevents you 1111 01:33:27,644 --> 01:33:30,981 meeting and talking because you know that flashbulbs are going to flash? 1112 01:33:31,606 --> 01:33:36,445 Of course, it's not pleasant, because, uh... there is no relaxation. 1113 01:33:36,445 --> 01:33:39,948 Uh, he is a married man. Before, I was a married woman. 1114 01:33:39,948 --> 01:33:43,577 I still am, but I'm going to get a divorce if the divorce law comes out. 1115 01:33:44,119 --> 01:33:47,205 And, uh, well, they have created problems. 1116 01:33:47,205 --> 01:33:49,583 He had a family. He had children. 1117 01:33:49,583 --> 01:33:51,585 Now he has a wife. I've never met her. 1118 01:33:52,502 --> 01:33:54,296 Never. And, uh, so... 1119 01:33:55,255 --> 01:33:58,508 naturally, not having met her, it could create problems. 1120 01:33:58,508 --> 01:33:59,843 I don't know. 1121 01:33:59,843 --> 01:34:00,802 I hope not. 1122 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,015 'Cause I'm not the, uh, kind of type that would create problems. 1123 01:34:05,682 --> 01:34:08,226 But I mean, a meeting like that is made much more difficult 1124 01:34:08,226 --> 01:34:09,895 by all the publicity, presumably. 1125 01:34:10,645 --> 01:34:12,189 Well, uh, I don't know. 1126 01:34:12,189 --> 01:34:15,358 It depends on whether the man, uh... needs you. 1127 01:34:15,358 --> 01:34:20,989 There are many a time that I'm sure, uh, Onassis needs me as a friend, 1128 01:34:20,989 --> 01:34:22,616 because I would tell him the truth. 1129 01:34:23,742 --> 01:34:25,702 Not that you men like the truth. 1130 01:34:26,453 --> 01:34:27,454 -[Frost] Oh. - Nah... 1131 01:34:27,454 --> 01:34:28,789 [audience laughs] 1132 01:34:28,789 --> 01:34:31,249 - Hey, well... - Don't we? Oh, we love it. 1133 01:34:31,249 --> 01:34:32,751 - Oh, no. - We're so grateful for it. 1134 01:34:32,751 --> 01:34:37,130 - Mmm! You're lying. - We're so grateful for the truth. 1135 01:34:37,130 --> 01:34:39,382 - We can't get enough of it. -[audience laughs] 1136 01:34:39,382 --> 01:34:44,429 I'm quite sure, though, that Mr. Onassis would always come to me with his problems, 1137 01:34:44,429 --> 01:34:49,851 knowing that I would never repeat and he would find an objective mind. 1138 01:34:51,353 --> 01:34:55,857 Now, I'm wond-- I bet you're wondering, would I need his friendship? 1139 01:34:55,857 --> 01:34:57,192 Yes, I suppose. 1140 01:34:57,692 --> 01:34:59,444 And would you go to him with a problem? 1141 01:35:00,445 --> 01:35:04,991 Yes, but I have many friends, also, that in the meantime have taken place. 1142 01:35:04,991 --> 01:35:06,993 I mean, just plain good friends. 1143 01:35:07,786 --> 01:35:10,163 I would. I would. 1144 01:35:18,004 --> 01:35:20,006 [chatter in Italian] 1145 01:35:26,388 --> 01:35:28,306 [man speaking French] Medea is your first film, 1146 01:35:28,306 --> 01:35:31,685 but is it the first film you've ever been offered? 1147 01:35:31,685 --> 01:35:33,937 [Callas speaking French] No, I've been offered several, 1148 01:35:33,937 --> 01:35:38,024 but it's the first one I thought was worthy enough 1149 01:35:38,024 --> 01:35:39,985 for me not to say no. 1150 01:35:39,985 --> 01:35:44,197 For an actress, I think it's a wonderful role. 1151 01:35:46,825 --> 01:35:49,327 [man] You're a friend of Pasolini, I believe. 1152 01:35:49,327 --> 01:35:52,080 I've become his friend, I think. 1153 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,709 My collaboration with Mr. Pasolini has really been... 1154 01:35:57,168 --> 01:35:59,671 It's been very... 1155 01:36:00,297 --> 01:36:04,134 very moving and very real, every minute of the day. 1156 01:36:06,678 --> 01:36:08,680 [speaking French] 1157 01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:16,104 [Callas] Everything is timing in life. 1158 01:36:16,855 --> 01:36:22,068 What we are trying, I may say, is to find the human part of, uh, Medea. 1159 01:36:22,068 --> 01:36:23,194 A woman. 1160 01:36:25,614 --> 01:36:27,616 With all the experiences of a woman. 1161 01:36:28,909 --> 01:36:30,076 Even more so. 1162 01:36:30,577 --> 01:36:31,786 Everything is bigger. 1163 01:36:32,787 --> 01:36:34,789 Bigger sacrifice, big-- 1164 01:36:34,789 --> 01:36:36,791 Everything is bigger. The scenery is bigger. 1165 01:36:37,250 --> 01:36:40,462 But the hurt is just there, just the same as any other woman. 1166 01:36:41,129 --> 01:36:42,255 Even more so. 1167 01:37:01,191 --> 01:37:03,818 [interviewer] How much would you like to make more films? 1168 01:37:05,111 --> 01:37:07,572 [sighs] I don't have that much experience. 1169 01:37:07,572 --> 01:37:09,658 I don't know what this experience will bring me, 1170 01:37:09,658 --> 01:37:12,744 so I think, uh, we should talk about that a little later 1171 01:37:12,744 --> 01:37:15,747 when I've finished, uh, this work. 1172 01:37:16,414 --> 01:37:18,667 But I must say that this role is the... 1173 01:37:19,167 --> 01:37:21,044 Uh, at least the way we've built it up. 1174 01:37:21,044 --> 01:37:23,630 I don't know whether you know it, and I don't know how the public will take it, 1175 01:37:23,630 --> 01:37:29,844 but... I don't think you can find roles, uh, as hard and as vast as this one. 1176 01:37:29,844 --> 01:37:33,014 I think we are starting at the end instead of at the beginning. 1177 01:37:34,975 --> 01:37:38,311 [chatter] 1178 01:38:01,751 --> 01:38:06,089 [speaking French] I'll let Mr. Pasolini speak because he's got to know me. 1179 01:38:06,089 --> 01:38:09,092 He can judge me objectively. 1180 01:38:09,092 --> 01:38:11,761 What am I like, Pier Paolo, really? 1181 01:38:11,761 --> 01:38:14,556 [man speaking French] The thing you like most is work. 1182 01:38:14,556 --> 01:38:16,850 - That's true. -[man] And then life. 1183 01:38:16,850 --> 01:38:18,184 Life itself. 1184 01:38:18,184 --> 01:38:21,354 [Callas] So you see me as a life enthusiast. 1185 01:38:21,354 --> 01:38:24,232 - I take part... -[man] You always have strong feelings. 1186 01:38:24,232 --> 01:38:27,986 When you're happy, you're completely and utterly happy. 1187 01:38:28,319 --> 01:38:30,613 The same when you're unhappy. 1188 01:38:30,613 --> 01:38:32,323 [Callas] Yes, but I hide, don't I? 1189 01:38:32,323 --> 01:38:35,618 -[man] Is there room for love then? - Yes, but love is so difficult. 1190 01:38:35,618 --> 01:38:38,496 And you pay a heavy price. 1191 01:38:38,496 --> 01:38:42,417 Good God, love is something very noble, 1192 01:38:42,417 --> 01:38:45,045 but, my God, it can be difficult... 1193 01:38:49,716 --> 01:38:54,137 [speaking French] In the coming years, you have to realize 1194 01:38:54,137 --> 01:38:57,432 that I can't go on singing forever, obviously. 1195 01:38:57,432 --> 01:39:01,144 If I'm considered, at least, a decent actress, 1196 01:39:01,144 --> 01:39:02,979 that's already a great deal for me. 1197 01:39:04,856 --> 01:39:08,109 And it opens up the possibility of working, 1198 01:39:08,109 --> 01:39:10,612 in the few young years which I have left. 1199 01:39:10,987 --> 01:39:11,988 Honestly. 1200 01:39:11,988 --> 01:39:14,240 [woman speaking French] Why do you say "young years"? 1201 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,118 Surely one can act at any age? 1202 01:39:17,118 --> 01:39:19,913 That's true. That's true. 1203 01:39:19,913 --> 01:39:23,208 But I can see very clearly into the future, 1204 01:39:23,208 --> 01:39:25,585 and I'm a young woman... 1205 01:39:25,585 --> 01:39:27,796 but not so young anymore. 1206 01:39:27,796 --> 01:39:32,258 [woman] You say you need to work, so why haven't you sung for four years? 1207 01:39:32,258 --> 01:39:33,635 I wasn't well. 1208 01:39:34,886 --> 01:39:37,639 My health was... 1209 01:39:37,639 --> 01:39:40,308 I can't say I fell apart, but... 1210 01:39:40,767 --> 01:39:43,061 ever since I was a child, 1211 01:39:44,145 --> 01:39:46,856 I seem really, really strong, 1212 01:39:47,357 --> 01:39:49,275 but in fact, I'm not. 1213 01:39:49,943 --> 01:39:53,196 Then there was my career, which was really tough 1214 01:39:53,196 --> 01:39:54,781 though really wonderful, 1215 01:39:55,448 --> 01:39:57,659 with all the stress and so on... 1216 01:39:57,659 --> 01:40:00,912 And of course, the body cannot withstand it all. 1217 01:40:01,538 --> 01:40:03,164 I'm a woman, after all. 1218 01:40:04,207 --> 01:40:09,212 [woman] Do you have a precise plan or a desire you would like to fulfill? 1219 01:40:11,172 --> 01:40:14,634 I'm open to any... to any... 1220 01:40:15,844 --> 01:40:17,303 temptation. 1221 01:40:17,303 --> 01:40:20,265 Now that I've made a start, if people like me, 1222 01:40:21,266 --> 01:40:23,643 maybe I can start having a little fun. 1223 01:40:24,352 --> 01:40:25,770 [woman] Lady Macbeth? 1224 01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:30,024 That's very tempting. I've done it on the opera stage. 1225 01:40:30,525 --> 01:40:32,819 I have to admit, I'd be tempted. 1226 01:40:33,278 --> 01:40:34,404 [woman] What else? 1227 01:40:34,404 --> 01:40:36,823 Even comic roles, I'd like that. 1228 01:40:37,699 --> 01:40:39,742 [music plays] 1229 01:40:43,663 --> 01:40:45,707 [man speaking French] Madam President! 1230 01:41:12,483 --> 01:41:16,279 [speaking French] The 38th Artists' Gala is now open. 1231 01:41:16,738 --> 01:41:18,656 Let the attractions begin! 1232 01:41:29,584 --> 01:41:31,419 [audience laughs] 1233 01:41:34,547 --> 01:41:36,674 [music continues] 1234 01:41:46,935 --> 01:41:48,811 [audience laughs] 1235 01:41:59,322 --> 01:42:01,908 Maria? Maria! 1236 01:42:01,908 --> 01:42:04,160 -[music continues] -[audience laughing] 1237 01:42:46,828 --> 01:42:50,415 [actress as Maria Callas] At first, I would not let him into the flat... 1238 01:42:51,207 --> 01:42:54,919 but imagine that one day, he kept on whistling outside, 1239 01:42:54,919 --> 01:42:58,965 as young men used to do in Greece 50 years ago. 1240 01:42:59,716 --> 01:43:02,218 They wooed their sweethearts with song. 1241 01:43:03,094 --> 01:43:06,014 So I had to let him in before the press realized 1242 01:43:06,014 --> 01:43:08,850 what was going on in Avenue Georges Mandel. 1243 01:43:09,726 --> 01:43:13,896 Nevertheless, at the time, I was terribly upset 1244 01:43:13,896 --> 01:43:16,399 and thought him a proper bastard. 1245 01:43:17,233 --> 01:43:20,403 I used other words I do not care to repeat. 1246 01:43:21,487 --> 01:43:24,699 It was later, when he came back, 1247 01:43:24,699 --> 01:43:28,411 and when I began to regain my lost pride, 1248 01:43:28,411 --> 01:43:33,958 that I was able to put things in a wiser and more realistic perspective. 1249 01:43:35,084 --> 01:43:39,964 Of course, his immediate explanation was that his marriage was a mistake. 1250 01:43:39,964 --> 01:43:44,260 His mistake, not his wife's, as I bluntly told him. 1251 01:43:44,761 --> 01:43:50,308 He got exactly what he had bargained for, and he had only himself to blame. 1252 01:43:50,975 --> 01:43:53,144 His so-called "marriage contract" 1253 01:43:53,144 --> 01:43:56,105 was a bizarre arrangement I could never understand. 1254 01:43:58,191 --> 01:43:59,567 I took him back. 1255 01:44:01,110 --> 01:44:04,655 That is how my great friendship with Aristo was born. 1256 01:44:04,655 --> 01:44:07,617 Let's say, a passionate friendship. 1257 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,707 After his marriage, we never quarreled. 1258 01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:18,127 We talked things through constructively. 1259 01:44:18,127 --> 01:44:19,712 He stopped arguing. 1260 01:44:21,255 --> 01:44:23,925 There was no longer the need to prove anything, 1261 01:44:23,925 --> 01:44:26,928 either to ourselves or to one another. 1262 01:44:29,555 --> 01:44:31,933 My affair with Onassis was a failure... 1263 01:44:33,184 --> 01:44:34,977 but my friendship with him... 1264 01:44:36,062 --> 01:44:37,647 was a success. 1265 01:44:47,698 --> 01:44:51,077 You recently said in a newspaper interview, 1266 01:44:51,077 --> 01:44:55,498 "I believe I must be just a little American kid, at the back of my mind, 1267 01:44:55,498 --> 01:45:00,586 because I wanted someone, Prince Charming, to come in and take me away." 1268 01:45:01,254 --> 01:45:03,214 - Very true. - Do you think he ever will? 1269 01:45:03,214 --> 01:45:05,466 [chuckles] Up to now, he hasn't. 1270 01:45:05,466 --> 01:45:06,968 Or rather, he has. 1271 01:45:07,677 --> 01:45:10,471 Uh... you know the man I'm talking, of course. 1272 01:45:10,471 --> 01:45:13,808 It was only the second man and probably the only one, 1273 01:45:13,808 --> 01:45:16,894 a non-husband, Mr. Onassis. 1274 01:45:16,894 --> 01:45:19,772 And, you see, uh... 1275 01:45:21,190 --> 01:45:22,275 you hope a lot. 1276 01:45:22,275 --> 01:45:25,570 Maybe it's my fault. I put a man on a pedestal, 1277 01:45:25,570 --> 01:45:30,116 and, uh... I hoped a lot, and I probably was disappointed, 1278 01:45:30,116 --> 01:45:32,660 and it probably was my fault. 1279 01:45:32,660 --> 01:45:36,539 - Do you still hope? - Hope in what? To find...? 1280 01:45:36,539 --> 01:45:38,332 Do you still hope Prince Charming will come? 1281 01:45:38,332 --> 01:45:40,626 Well, it won't be Prince Charming at our age. 1282 01:45:40,626 --> 01:45:43,296 Uh, at my age, I don't expect a Prince Charming. 1283 01:45:43,296 --> 01:45:47,884 I expect a mature man who will accept me as I am and will guide me... 1284 01:45:47,884 --> 01:45:49,385 Would you give up singing then? 1285 01:45:49,385 --> 01:45:51,053 - Oh, naturally. - You would? 1286 01:45:51,053 --> 01:45:53,431 Well, at this age, yes. 1287 01:45:53,431 --> 01:45:59,187 It has been said Maria Callas gave up singing for Aristotle Onassis. 1288 01:45:59,187 --> 01:46:00,938 [sighs] Uh... 1289 01:46:00,938 --> 01:46:04,692 well, I could- I could do without answering that, 1290 01:46:04,692 --> 01:46:08,070 but I think it's an honest question. 1291 01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:09,655 Uh... 1292 01:46:10,156 --> 01:46:14,535 I thought that when I met a man I loved that I didn't need to sing. 1293 01:46:15,244 --> 01:46:17,872 Because I think that a woman necess... 1294 01:46:17,872 --> 01:46:20,166 the most important thing in a woman 1295 01:46:20,166 --> 01:46:24,295 is to have a man of her own and to make him happy. 1296 01:46:24,295 --> 01:46:28,007 And I have integrity, which is a very expensive, uh-- 1297 01:46:28,007 --> 01:46:29,258 Using Onassis's words-- 1298 01:46:29,258 --> 01:46:34,055 It's a very expensive, uh, price to pay for integrity and honesty. 1299 01:46:35,598 --> 01:46:37,016 But I can pay that price. 1300 01:46:37,850 --> 01:46:40,144 [applause] 1301 01:46:45,650 --> 01:46:48,486 [cheering, applause] 1302 01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:53,783 [cheering, applause continue] 1303 01:47:05,503 --> 01:47:08,714 [chanting] Maria! Maria! 1304 01:47:08,714 --> 01:47:14,053 Maria! Maria! Maria! 1305 01:47:35,324 --> 01:47:37,159 [woman] Maria! 1306 01:47:37,159 --> 01:47:39,996 [audience laughs, applauds] 1307 01:47:39,996 --> 01:47:41,747 [applause fades] 1308 01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:43,791 I must say, this evening, 1309 01:47:43,791 --> 01:47:48,713 I was a little more emotion than usual, because when a public loves me that much, 1310 01:47:48,713 --> 01:47:50,298 I have to give that much more... 1311 01:47:50,881 --> 01:47:52,633 [exhales] ...and there's no end to it. 1312 01:47:52,633 --> 01:47:55,720 [applause] 1313 01:47:58,306 --> 01:48:01,934 So I'll try a little more, and I'll do the usual song, 1314 01:48:01,934 --> 01:48:06,522 which I... "O, mio babbino caro." "O, my public caro." 1315 01:48:06,522 --> 01:48:09,233 [cheering, applause] 1316 01:48:17,617 --> 01:48:19,035 [no audible dialogue] 1317 01:48:30,463 --> 01:48:32,548 [no audible dialogue] 1318 01:48:36,427 --> 01:48:39,013 [Callas] It's really very, very rewarding. 1319 01:48:39,013 --> 01:48:44,810 Um, they were probably applauding what, uh, they were hoping to hear. 1320 01:48:44,810 --> 01:48:49,023 I don't know if they were really, uh... if I deserved all that, 1321 01:48:49,023 --> 01:48:51,609 but, uh, you can never fight the public. 1322 01:48:51,609 --> 01:48:54,695 So they seem very happy, but I must say also, 1323 01:48:54,695 --> 01:48:58,616 they were, uh, very grateful, as I was also, 1324 01:48:58,616 --> 01:49:01,619 that I was able to come back. 1325 01:49:01,619 --> 01:49:03,746 You can't just applaud the legend, 1326 01:49:03,746 --> 01:49:07,041 uh, if you don't give them something to, uh... 1327 01:49:07,041 --> 01:49:09,210 And after all, what is the legend? 1328 01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:11,170 The public made me. 1329 01:49:11,170 --> 01:49:14,173 - What is a legend? - Hmm. [chuckles] 1330 01:49:14,173 --> 01:49:17,134 I think I'm a very human, human being. 1331 01:49:17,134 --> 01:49:20,680 If I wasn't human, I probably would have sung better. 1332 01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,058 I had a touch of nerves in the beginning, and, uh... 1333 01:49:25,059 --> 01:49:29,063 You see, when a public loves you so much, you want to do so much more. 1334 01:49:29,063 --> 01:49:33,526 And what I want more is, uh, never what I would like to. 1335 01:49:33,526 --> 01:49:35,736 Not even in the good old days. 1336 01:49:35,736 --> 01:49:38,072 [cheering] 1337 01:50:05,099 --> 01:50:07,393 [no audible dialogue] 1338 01:50:12,022 --> 01:50:14,608 [no audible dialogue] 1339 01:50:19,697 --> 01:50:22,283 [rhythmic clapping] 1340 01:50:34,795 --> 01:50:36,881 [clapping continues] 1341 01:50:51,061 --> 01:50:53,856 [actress as Maria Callas] When I saw Aristo for the last time, 1342 01:50:54,607 --> 01:50:58,569 he was calm and, I think, at peace with himself. 1343 01:50:59,153 --> 01:51:01,614 He was very ill, and he knew 1344 01:51:01,614 --> 01:51:05,576 that the end was near, though he tried to ignore it. 1345 01:51:09,371 --> 01:51:14,418 We did not speak about old times or much about anything else. 1346 01:51:16,003 --> 01:51:19,548 We mostly communicated with each other in silence. 1347 01:51:21,383 --> 01:51:25,888 As I was about to leave, he made a special effort to tell me... 1348 01:51:29,475 --> 01:51:30,810 "I loved you. 1349 01:51:31,977 --> 01:51:33,562 Not always well, 1350 01:51:33,562 --> 01:51:36,315 but as much and the best I could. 1351 01:51:37,399 --> 01:51:38,692 I tried." 1352 01:51:38,692 --> 01:51:42,613 [Callas singing] 1353 01:51:42,613 --> 01:51:44,782 I have written my memoirs. 1354 01:51:46,075 --> 01:51:48,285 They are in the music I interpret... 1355 01:51:49,411 --> 01:51:52,122 the only language I really know. 1356 01:51:52,122 --> 01:51:54,124 [singing continues] 1357 01:52:11,851 --> 01:52:15,020 [singing continues] 1358 01:52:41,422 --> 01:52:44,425 [singing continues] 1359 01:52:56,812 --> 01:52:59,440 [singing continues] 1360 01:53:21,253 --> 01:53:24,256 [singing continues] 1361 01:53:40,773 --> 01:53:44,193 [singing continues] 1362 01:53:57,289 --> 01:53:59,500 [singing continues] 1363 01:54:08,676 --> 01:54:14,932 Yet you keep on living 1364 01:54:14,932 --> 01:54:21,939 I am life itself 1365 01:54:23,107 --> 01:54:30,114 Your heaven is in my eyes 1366 01:54:33,033 --> 01:54:38,998 You're not alone 1367 01:54:39,456 --> 01:54:45,337 I'll gather all your tears 1368 01:54:46,088 --> 01:54:53,095 I'll walk your path and support you 1369 01:54:55,472 --> 01:55:02,479 Smile and hope 1370 01:55:04,398 --> 01:55:08,694 I am love 1371 01:55:51,403 --> 01:55:54,990 I am love 1372 01:55:54,990 --> 01:56:01,997 Love 1373 01:56:03,791 --> 01:56:06,293 [applause, cheering] 1374 01:56:06,293 --> 01:56:11,131 [Callas, speaking French] I want to thank all the public, who remained close to me, 1375 01:56:11,131 --> 01:56:15,427 in difficult times, not only in times of glory. 1376 01:56:16,136 --> 01:56:18,639 They wrote to me, they adored me, 1377 01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:22,309 they understood me, generally they loved me. 1378 01:56:22,309 --> 01:56:25,437 So for that too I am very grateful. 1379 01:56:25,437 --> 01:56:27,981 I feel only gratitude towards the world. 1380 01:56:28,524 --> 01:56:29,525 That's all. 1381 01:56:31,944 --> 01:56:33,362 [music begins] 1382 01:56:41,995 --> 01:56:44,998 [singing "O, mio babbino caro"] 1383 01:58:31,188 --> 01:58:34,191 [music fades] 107970

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