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Have you ever had
a kind of dream
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where you're so awake
in the dream,
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you're not sure if
you're really awake or asleep?
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You ever had that kind of dream?
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I once had a dream
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where this weird creature
walked through the wall
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and says, "quick, who wrote the
famous novel by Herman Melville",
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and what was the author's name?"
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And I go, "ooh, don't tell me."
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I know; It's on the tip
of my tongue."
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I don't know where it came from,
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but it's such
a complicated answer.
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Associated Press, this is Nicole.
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Is Matt there?
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Matt Slagle, Matt Otero,
or Matt Curry?
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Oh, it's for Matt Slagle.
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Okay, just a second.
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Thank you.
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When you have finished
recording,
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you may hang up or press one
for more options.
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Beep!
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So, Matt, this is Walter Day
calling back from Twin Galaxies
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about the Pac-man
25th anniversary story.
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In 1981, the arcade scene
was very big.
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Twin Galaxies opened up
on November 10, 1981.
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It was an absolute
magical place.
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It seemed to be so free
of worries
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and just so full of happiness
and excitement.
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We've gained a lot of notoriety
and the reputation
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for being the video gaming
capital of the world.
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We used to refer to it as
the dodge city of video games,
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because that's the place
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where all the fast guns
would congregate.
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We had all the classics.
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We had Wizard of Wor...
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Donkey Kong, Missile Command,
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Space Invaders, Tempest,
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Gorf, Asteroids,
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TRON, Joust,
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Burgertime, Pac-man,
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Centipede, Berzerk,
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Dragon's Lair, Star Wars,
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Frogger, Galaga,
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Robotron,
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Eagle?
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Something like Eagle.
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There were several games
that sucked.
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I could spot an arcade
a mile away.
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Before I could drive,
I was walking to the arcade.
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It was sort of like
my second home in a way.
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You didn't know what to expect.
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You'd walk in,
and there was always a chance
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there would be a new game
out there.
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The game would arrive,
and yet you'd have, like,
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people stacked up and lined up
waiting to play.
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But, yeah, it was packed.
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You could not get on that game.
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There was a line
out to the door.
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You could find a video game
anywhere.
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And it was just a different era.
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Then the opportunity suddenly
popped up.
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A kid named Steve Joraszek
played Defender
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nonstop on one quarter and
ended up with 23 million points.
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So I called up
Williams Electronics in Chicago
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and asked them
if this was a world record.
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And they said, "we don't know."
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So I offered to keep track
of the scores for the industry.
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For some crazy reason
of divine fate,
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they all said, "yeah."
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When anybody calls about scores,
we're gonna send them to you"
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send your playing techniques
or high scores
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to the international scoreboard
in Ottumwa.
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I was the official scorekeeper
for the video game industry.
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Here are the top finalists.
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Within months, we were getting
30, 40, 50 phone calls a day.
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And so I called out
to Ottumwa, Iowa,
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and talked to these people.
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And we ended up
calling up Walter.
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I contacted Walter.
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Walter put together
the only infrastructure
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that serious video game players
could even become attracted to.
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There was nobody else
trying to do this.
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Walter was the only person.
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I remember talking to him
on the phone.
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I think you just called him.
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And I called the phone number,
and Walter answered.
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Walter. Walter.
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Walter. Walter Day.
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I looked at the scoreboard,
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and I saw that there were
some people
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who were just obviously
superstars.
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What I found out was, though,
was that I wasn't just
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the best player in my arcade.
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I was one of the best players
in the country.
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Well, in the back seat,
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we have the entire spare boards
and the entire board system
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from my Berzerk machine.
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And, uh,
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we can play some Berzerk.
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That's the whole key right here
is to play some Berzerk.
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My dad worked two jobs
most of the time
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to make a living.
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He went to one baseball game
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in my entire life when I was
about 11 years old.
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And I still remember that game.
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Our team lost,
but my dad was there, you know.
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He died in march of '78.
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He died of a heart attack.
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He died in my arms.
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I tried CPR on him,
and he just didn't make it.
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It really devastated me.
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And I was just very lonely,
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seeking things that didn't
have any direction.
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And one day I walked into
the underground arcade
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in Shelby, North Carolina.
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There was these two guys
in business suits over there
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playing a game called Berzerk.
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What a winner does is,
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they find something
that they can do well,
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and they just do it over
and over and over.
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And that's where you get
your specialist at.
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Well, I became a specialist
in Berzerk.
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In Berzerk, you are a humanoid.
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And you are just running through
this very simple maze,
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and there are these robots
who don't like it.
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What happens is,
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a lot of robots appear
on the screen.
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And you can't move
your humanoid,
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and they're shooting at you.
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And you just got to pray
that joystick will kick in.
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Intruder alert.
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Kill the humanoid.
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There's also a Nemesis,
evil Otto,
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it's a stop sign,
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stop sign smiley face.
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And if he pounces on you,
he kills you.
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When somebody smiles
and yet wants to kill you,
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that is the ultimate in...
He was a maniac.
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Kill the humanoid.
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Stop the intruder.
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In the game of Berzerk,
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there are 64,000
room combinations.
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Well, no one had figured
that out yet.
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I mapped out every room,
every combination.
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I was on the top,
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but if you don't have someone
to help you go even higher,
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you wane.
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I was a chemical engineer,
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mostly in the lithium industry.
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I was laid off from work
in 1982.
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And Ron Bailey would prove to be
an interesting fellow to me.
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His major interest in his life
was ham radio.
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I thought he'd have, you know,
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a little box sitting
on the table.
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This guy had rooms
full of stuff.
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I have a motto.
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"Nothing in moderation."
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He had a tower that was
over 90 foot high
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that you could actually
walk up a ladder on.
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Destroy the intruder.
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Kill the humanoid.
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I didn't know this guy was
a closet Berzerk player.
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He made me feel good
because of the fact
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that someone older
was having an interest in me.
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Boys, even if you're
a boy at 22,
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you need encouragement
from older fellas.
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We knew as the two of us,
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we could beat everybody
in the world.
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When you play a video game,
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there are days when you're
playing the game,
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and it's fighting you.
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Then there are days when you
and the game become one.
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At some point in time,
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I felt as if I could get inside
the machine mentally.
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You're fluid.
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You're focused.
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You're with the game.
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You're right there with it,
and everything is right.
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There's nothing that's wrong.
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And you can even hear
what's going on outside
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of your realm.
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You're so focused.
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There's nothing.
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It is almost like
a spiritual experience.
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I've had spiritual experiences,
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and it's a very
similar feeling...
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When you're playing that game,
and you're totally focused,
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and you're totally one
with that game.
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It's a unity,
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and it's just like
a spiritual experience.
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When it's right, it's right.
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The name that I used to go by
when I was playing video games
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in my past life
was Darren Olson.
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When my mom and dad
got divorced,
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it had been something that...
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We always wanted
to change our name.
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There was a show
we used to watch on TV
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called Remington Steele.
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Pierce Bronson, was it?
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I'm trying to remember it.
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I think he was a detective.
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And that's actually where
I picked up the name Steele.
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He could just play Centipede
and maneuver a track ball
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in a way that should not
have been able to be done.
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He's been demonstrating tonight
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his unique approach
to playing Centipede,
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which is to clear off the bottom
part of the screen
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and then live for as long
as possible while the Centipede
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continues to go around.
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He was what I considered
the best player in the world
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in video games, period.
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He was just someone that even
champions just chose to idolize.
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And Kent was another one.
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Kent was just as good
as Darren was.
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I probably had world records on
games like Stargate,
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Centipede maybe at one point.
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Donkey Kong Jr., Robotron.
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We would actually beat
each other's scores at one time.
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And we didn't know each other.
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That was Kent.
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Probably Space Invaders
that I met him.
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It would have been in
around there,
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'cause there was somebody else
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that was getting some
high scores on this game,
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and, you know, I'm in there
playing the same game.
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And, you know, of course,
the next thing you know,
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we're trying to compete against
each other.
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Games, you know,
before that were pretty simple
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with just a couple, you know,
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the character you control,
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and here's a couple enemies
you can play with.
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And here's 55 enemies
coming at you, you know.
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That was different
than playing Pong
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or Breakout
or any of the other games.
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And of a sudden,
here you were protecting earth.
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You could store your high score.
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So other people could,
like, come in and try
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to beat your high score.
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That was kind of a new...
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I mean, that was a new idea
at the time.
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Originally, we used to have
separate initials.
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And then finally we teamed up
and go,
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"let's just decide on one."
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I think one day somebody called
us "whiz kids" or something,
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so we go,
"okay, what can we use?"
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"Wiz."
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We used W-I-Z.
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'Cause you're only allowed
three initials.
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We'd go on one game,
play two players,
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and just fill up
the top five scores, ten scores.
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It was all "WIZ."
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Nobody else would have their
initials in there.
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And everybody wanted to know
who WIZ was.
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People were asking us,
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"you know, who's WIZ?"
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And we would go,
"I don't know who he is."
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This really applied in the game
track and field.
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Some people that would just hit
the buttons
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really hard like this, right,
260
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and make a lot of noise.
261
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The next thing, there's this
thing called the double flap,
262
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which we used in joust
all the time.
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Did you do the double flap?
264
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'Cause you can't hit it
as fast this way
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as you can
with two fingers going.
266
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The would do, like,
two fingers on each button.
267
00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:59,046
Oh, I do remember
the pencil trick.
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They would balance a pencil
between the two run buttons
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and sort of, like, toggle it.
270
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By the pressure pushing down
on the pencil,
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it flicks back very quickly.
272
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That's really cool that somebody
actually adapted
273
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the use of a pencil
to play a video game.
274
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That's rare.
275
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That takes a genius.
276
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After that, we started thinking
and going,
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"oh, I grab my mom's electric
knife, right?"
278
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I haven't heard of that.
279
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Where the blade stuck in,
it actually moved
280
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just like my double flap did.
281
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That's amazing.
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The first time we tried it,
283
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nothing.
284
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"Oh, okay."
285
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But I had the dimmer switch
on it.
286
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We had it going too fast.
287
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So we turned it down.
288
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The next thing you know,
we're jumping six feet.
289
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We're jumping eight feet.
290
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Turn it up, and we found
the perfect spot.
291
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We're just blowing away.
292
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That blows me away.
293
00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:41,955
And there's initials,
"WIZ" again.
294
00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:44,024
So I was like,
"who are these guys," you know.
295
00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:46,059
Then we went and decided
to conquer Calgary.
296
00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,864
Let's take on every game
in every 7-Eleven, every arcade.
297
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Let's go beat every high score.
298
00:13:52,732 --> 00:13:54,968
Everybody wanted to be better
than everybody else.
299
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Everybody wanted to showcase.
300
00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:59,039
To use a sports analogy,
these are the all-pro guys.
301
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You could walk in,
302
00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:03,110
and you could be the biggest,
strongest guy in the place.
303
00:14:03,143 --> 00:14:05,345
Well, if you couldn't play
a video game,
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00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:06,346
you were nothing.
305
00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:07,680
He smoked everybody else.
306
00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:09,682
We would essentially dominate
the game.
307
00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:12,219
'Cause we would win almost every
tournament we went to.
308
00:14:12,252 --> 00:14:13,887
I'm the best there is
in the world.
309
00:14:13,921 --> 00:14:16,289
There's all these video game
players that have egos
310
00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:17,357
the size of cathedrals.
311
00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:18,791
I couldn't accept the fact
312
00:14:18,825 --> 00:14:20,369
that a computer's programmed
to beat me.
313
00:14:20,393 --> 00:14:21,661
I used to go and play a game
314
00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:23,163
to destroy the game.
315
00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:24,507
I could walk into
a strange arcade
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and step up to a game,
317
00:14:25,933 --> 00:14:28,311
and I could have half an arcade
full of people around watching.
318
00:14:28,335 --> 00:14:30,603
It's not just, like,
the best person at your arcade.
319
00:14:30,637 --> 00:14:32,505
You would actually be
the best person ever.
320
00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:42,449
They were just, like, in awe
of what you're doing, right?
321
00:14:42,482 --> 00:14:44,084
Every game has a weakness.
322
00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,286
You've got to be ready.
You've got to shoot quick.
323
00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:47,487
A t-shirt is a big part of it.
324
00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,356
If you don't have a t-shirt,
you're nobody.
325
00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,959
They'd all backed out of the way
with their line of quarters
326
00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:53,369
and let us play
so they could watch.
327
00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:54,761
That's just the way it was.
328
00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:56,563
You can go from shit to god
for a quarter.
329
00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:57,797
That's incredible.
330
00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,832
That's... no,
these guys are unbelievable.
331
00:14:59,866 --> 00:15:02,169
To an arcade owner,
I am their worst nightmare.
332
00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:04,938
I go in there and spend
a quarter and last all day long.
333
00:15:04,972 --> 00:15:07,174
They're at a level where people
can't hardly see
334
00:15:07,207 --> 00:15:08,175
what's going on.
335
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:09,409
"Look at that move.
336
00:15:09,442 --> 00:15:10,410
That's amazing."
337
00:15:10,443 --> 00:15:11,811
People just have to stop.
338
00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:12,812
They'd just come by.
339
00:15:12,845 --> 00:15:14,047
"Whoa, man.
340
00:15:14,081 --> 00:15:15,082
Good heavens."
341
00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:17,084
Boom, baby.
342
00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:20,187
That's how you play Donkey Kong.
343
00:15:20,220 --> 00:15:23,690
The regular circulation of the
magazine is like 1 1/2 million.
344
00:15:23,723 --> 00:15:24,924
That's paid circulation,
345
00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:27,627
so the readership had got to be
at about 4 million.
346
00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:30,630
I was a reporter
at life magazine at the time.
347
00:15:30,663 --> 00:15:31,831
It was, like, 1982.
348
00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:35,435
And we were trying to come up
with pictures
349
00:15:35,468 --> 00:15:37,670
that would be good to capture
the culture of the year.
350
00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:38,781
Walter called me up and said,
351
00:15:38,805 --> 00:15:40,216
"we're having all of the best
players
352
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,808
"from around the country come,
353
00:15:41,841 --> 00:15:45,012
and life magazine's gonna be
there to shoot the picture."
354
00:15:45,045 --> 00:15:47,247
We didn't know what to expect.
355
00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,416
We don't know
who's gonna be there.
356
00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,417
We don't know if we're just
357
00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:51,851
getting buffaloed
into something.
358
00:15:51,884 --> 00:15:53,520
"Hey, you want to go to Iowa?"
359
00:15:53,553 --> 00:15:54,521
And I'm like, "where?"
360
00:15:54,554 --> 00:15:55,522
We're kids.
361
00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:56,523
We don't really care.
362
00:15:56,556 --> 00:15:57,524
We're gonna go, you know.
363
00:15:57,557 --> 00:15:58,525
We're gonna see the world.
364
00:15:58,558 --> 00:15:59,726
It was pretty exciting.
365
00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,194
There was people from all over.
366
00:16:01,228 --> 00:16:03,572
It was California, Florida,
I think one guy was from Alaska.
367
00:16:03,596 --> 00:16:05,832
Well, actually, I flew out
with two friends of mine.
368
00:16:05,865 --> 00:16:08,235
And I thought we were gonna land
in a cornfield in Ottumwa.
369
00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:10,903
I was in a 1972 Ford LTD.
370
00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:12,472
When I went through Cincinnati,
371
00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:14,574
I went over that big bridge
coming in from Kentucky,
372
00:16:14,607 --> 00:16:15,875
and it horrified me.
373
00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:18,478
Poor little North Carolina boy
had never been anywhere.
374
00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:20,047
I borrowed my mom's car.
375
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,149
They were coming down
from Canada
376
00:16:22,182 --> 00:16:23,492
and that that was
a possible swoop
377
00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:24,851
that they could pick me up.
378
00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:26,319
It was an old Toronado.
379
00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:27,887
It was not easy to sleep
380
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,198
in the company
of these two guys.
381
00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:31,758
I didn't know if we were gonna
get there or not.
382
00:16:31,791 --> 00:16:35,895
We got there, and it was
a pretty small town.
383
00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:38,331
I have never seen a city
so square.
384
00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:39,966
You pull in to Ottumwa, Iowa,
385
00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,377
I don't know what it was
at the time,
386
00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:42,402
20,000 or something.
387
00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:43,803
It was a little hick town,
right?
388
00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:46,173
The highway map for Iowa
is like this.
389
00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,175
If he hit it over the wall,
390
00:17:22,209 --> 00:17:24,344
it would have been
just another accomplishment.
391
00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:26,613
What made it different was,
he pointed at the wall.
392
00:17:26,646 --> 00:17:28,781
Well, that's what I was out
to do then.
393
00:17:28,815 --> 00:17:30,083
And it was risky.
394
00:17:40,493 --> 00:17:43,263
Billy Mitchell, video game
player of the century.
395
00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:52,872
It's rather simple.
396
00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:55,342
If you want to get
a perfect game, you walk up.
397
00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:57,076
You put your quarter in.
398
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:58,211
You press start.
399
00:17:58,245 --> 00:17:59,846
You eat every dot.
400
00:17:59,879 --> 00:18:02,982
You eat every prize,
every energizer.
401
00:18:03,015 --> 00:18:04,217
And on every energizer,
402
00:18:04,251 --> 00:18:06,653
you've got to get all four guys
every time.
403
00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,555
If you miss a guy, you're done.
404
00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,723
If you miss a prize,
you're done.
405
00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:12,159
If you miss anything,
you're done.
406
00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:13,960
You die one time, you're done.
407
00:18:13,993 --> 00:18:16,396
Just to give you an idea,
watch how fast they turn back.
408
00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:20,099
And you got to get all four.
409
00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:23,203
256 boards over many,
many hours,
410
00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:26,105
never dying once,
never missing a point.
411
00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:29,142
I had all kinds of people,
"oh, you can't do it.
412
00:18:29,176 --> 00:18:31,043
"Oh, no one's ever done that.
413
00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:32,355
"There's no way you can do that.
414
00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:33,646
Bet you you can't."
415
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,182
I'd say, "don't bet your life."
416
00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:46,159
Sorry, I'm just
showing off here.
417
00:18:46,193 --> 00:18:48,204
Bill Mitchell is the Jerry Rice
or the Michael Jordan
418
00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:49,462
of all video game players.
419
00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:51,164
Man, he's phenomenal.
420
00:18:51,198 --> 00:18:54,066
Very loud, very outspoken,
very confrontational.
421
00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:56,636
And one of the lines
he would always say to me is,
422
00:18:56,669 --> 00:18:59,339
"Steve, when I met you,
I was but the learner.
423
00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:02,108
But now I am the master."
424
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,277
And I turned around.
425
00:19:04,311 --> 00:19:07,314
I stopped playing for a moment,
and I looked at Bill Mitchell,
426
00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:09,482
and I said,
"fuck you, Bill Mitchell.
427
00:19:09,516 --> 00:19:11,218
Fuck you."
428
00:19:11,251 --> 00:19:13,686
Mr. Nakamoto, he's the father
of Pac-man,
429
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,264
he presented me with an award
for Pac-man
430
00:19:15,288 --> 00:19:17,657
for having done the world's
first perfect game.
431
00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:19,759
So sometimes
when I'm with someone,
432
00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:21,437
"oh, you think you know more
about the games
433
00:19:21,461 --> 00:19:23,496
than the people who made them?"
434
00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:24,964
Um, yeah, they told me I do.
435
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,633
It's a very interesting
experience
436
00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,506
to see the whole video game
hobby become so big
437
00:19:28,535 --> 00:19:31,204
that there are now stars
like Billy.
438
00:19:31,238 --> 00:19:33,440
I'd be lying to you
if I told you it wasn't fun.
439
00:19:33,473 --> 00:19:35,284
I'd be lying to you
if I told you didn't enjoy it.
440
00:19:35,308 --> 00:19:36,276
Look at him.
441
00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:37,520
He sticks out like a sore thumb.
442
00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:38,978
He's got... what is this?
443
00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,113
What do they call that,
that hairdo?
444
00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:43,082
Business up front,
party in the back.
445
00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:45,318
He has this hairdo
like a country western singer.
446
00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:46,353
What do they call those?
447
00:19:46,386 --> 00:19:47,787
Short on top and long in back?
448
00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:48,888
Uh...
449
00:19:48,921 --> 00:19:50,122
Ah, that's a mullet.
450
00:19:50,156 --> 00:19:51,190
A mullet?
451
00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:52,859
That's called a mullet.
The mullet.
452
00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:53,860
Mullets rock.
453
00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:55,194
So he's very, very noticeable.
454
00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:56,763
Walter will say Billy Mitchell
455
00:19:56,796 --> 00:19:58,531
is the most famous
video game player.
456
00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:00,243
And I tend to disagree with that
to a point.
457
00:20:00,267 --> 00:20:01,577
There's a lot of jealousy
involved
458
00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:02,702
with this video game stuff.
459
00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:04,371
I mean, these guys
who play video games,
460
00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:05,438
I mean, let's face it.
461
00:20:05,472 --> 00:20:06,739
I mean, they couldn't get laid
462
00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:08,933
in a whorehouse with a handful
of hundred dollar bills.
463
00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:18,518
My name is Roy Shildt.
464
00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:21,020
I'm the world champion of
Missile Command,
465
00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:27,260
1,695,265 points,
which I achieved in 1985.
466
00:20:27,294 --> 00:20:30,697
The prestige of Missile Command
is a lot greater,
467
00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:32,465
because it's a macho game.
468
00:20:32,499 --> 00:20:34,066
You know, it's Missile Command.
469
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,669
It has a lot of paramilitary
association.
470
00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:40,673
It has a lot of phallic
association associated with it,
471
00:20:40,707 --> 00:20:43,042
just like a missile is like
a penis, you know.
472
00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:45,235
It's kind of like there's a lot
of penis envy involved.
473
00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:47,880
Of course I was famous.
474
00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:50,617
You know, he goes around saying
he's the world's most famous
475
00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:51,851
video game player,
476
00:20:51,884 --> 00:20:53,629
like people are walking up
to him all the time
477
00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:55,087
recognizing him.
478
00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:57,957
I said, "well, it's probably
the hookers on Park Avenue."
479
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:59,692
You know.
480
00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:02,194
I wouldn't play a candy-ass game
like Pac-man.
481
00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,996
That's for girls and chumps.
482
00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:05,908
The guys who play Pac-man
are not very talented.
483
00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:07,667
They can't handle games like
Missile Command
484
00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:09,135
or any of the real tough games.
485
00:21:09,168 --> 00:21:11,514
Those games are more popular
because they're easier to play.
486
00:21:11,538 --> 00:21:13,578
The games like Missile Command
are not that popular,
487
00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:15,141
because they're really hard
to master,
488
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:16,719
and it takes a lot of skill
to play them.
489
00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:20,246
And track balls are a lot harder
to control than a joystick.
490
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,350
And there's three buttons,
three different missile bases,
491
00:21:23,383 --> 00:21:25,352
and missiles that travel
at different speeds.
492
00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,019
The Missile Command record
493
00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:29,522
is a super record,
and his records are mediocre.
494
00:21:29,556 --> 00:21:31,724
One great record is worth
20 mediocre records,
495
00:21:31,758 --> 00:21:33,025
as far as I'm concerned.
496
00:21:37,464 --> 00:21:39,432
That's why I refer to him
as Silly Bitchell,
497
00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:42,268
because he really is nothing
but a silly bitch.
498
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,636
Billy Mitchell broke my score.
499
00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:45,538
Oh, sorry.
500
00:21:45,572 --> 00:21:47,740
Todd Rogers, I mean,
that guy is so high on himself.
501
00:21:47,774 --> 00:21:49,208
You can't even talk to him.
502
00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:51,844
There's a number of players out
there that are insanely jealous,
503
00:21:51,878 --> 00:21:54,614
which I won't mention names,
of Billy's achievements.
504
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:56,325
How would you like it
if you worked that hard
505
00:21:56,349 --> 00:21:57,750
to achieve something
506
00:21:57,784 --> 00:22:00,319
and some jackass came along
and tried to say it was fake?
507
00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:01,988
You know, I never threatened
Walter Day,
508
00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,155
but he thinks I did.
509
00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:05,091
I tried to call him after that,
and he says,
510
00:22:05,124 --> 00:22:06,258
"I can't talk to you.
511
00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:07,703
My attorney says
not to talk to you."
512
00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:09,462
And he hangs the phone up.
513
00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:14,634
Well, I had my attorney
send Walter Day a letter
514
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:17,236
saying, "you better
tell the truth about my score",
515
00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:20,006
"or else we're gonna file
an injunction against you,
516
00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,174
go in to court,
and all this other stuff."
517
00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,377
And the truth is Bill Mitchell
doesn't have any talent,
518
00:22:24,411 --> 00:22:25,454
and he's not a great player.
519
00:22:25,478 --> 00:22:26,913
He's completely full of shit.
520
00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:28,981
The Missile Command score
is a genuine achievement.
521
00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:30,393
And that's gonna be
the truth of it,
522
00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:31,384
and he knows it.
523
00:22:31,418 --> 00:22:32,661
Is that why I'm fighting so hard
524
00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:35,087
to hold on to
the Missile Command score?
525
00:22:35,121 --> 00:22:38,625
Yes.
526
00:22:38,658 --> 00:22:41,861
Because it makes me special.
527
00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:42,862
It gives me recognition.
528
00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:44,063
Of course I want to keep it.
529
00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:45,741
I don't want someone to say
it was fake or...
530
00:22:45,765 --> 00:22:48,635
I mean, it's kind of obvious,
isn't it?
531
00:22:48,668 --> 00:22:50,588
Is that really a question
that needs to be asked?
532
00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:55,041
Well, life magazine
has come to town to photograph
533
00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:58,210
early on this Sunday morning
at 7:30
534
00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:00,413
the downtown main street.
535
00:23:03,983 --> 00:23:05,384
Life magazine has come to town...
536
00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:07,086
So that Life magazine
could come to town...
537
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,087
Life magazine has come...
538
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,088
Life magazine...
539
00:23:09,121 --> 00:23:10,256
Give me a break.
540
00:23:10,289 --> 00:23:11,734
And so that's when
I first met Walter.
541
00:23:11,758 --> 00:23:12,992
I had not met him at all
542
00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:15,394
before I actually went out
for that photo shoot.
543
00:23:15,428 --> 00:23:18,831
I was impressed by his charisma
and his bizarrity.
544
00:23:18,865 --> 00:23:21,968
He definitely reminded me
a little bit of gene Wilder.
545
00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:25,271
Walter Day is a product
of the Berkeley era of the '60s.
546
00:23:25,304 --> 00:23:27,273
He's a renaissance man.
547
00:23:27,306 --> 00:23:28,541
He's a big dreamer,
548
00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:31,878
always coming up
with great plans and dreams.
549
00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:40,086
I had 50 million business cards,
the king of the card collectors.
550
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,155
I used to do
genealogical research
551
00:23:43,189 --> 00:23:44,857
and all sorts
of historical research.
552
00:23:44,891 --> 00:23:46,325
He was an oil broker.
553
00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,327
I'd be on the telephone
speaking to conoco.
554
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,830
"Oh, you want 20,000 barrels
of 2 oil?"
555
00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:52,765
He sold old newspapers.
556
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,467
And I have 7 million newspapers.
557
00:23:54,501 --> 00:23:56,402
They weigh about
a thousand tons.
558
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,337
One more step into eccentric
559
00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:01,040
probably wouldn't be
functioning in society.
560
00:24:01,073 --> 00:24:02,975
You keep them in a dark place.
561
00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:05,244
Try not to fold them,
and keep them flat.
562
00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:06,378
Walter's in the house.
563
00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:07,714
Well, it's that time of year
564
00:24:07,747 --> 00:24:09,549
when we're getting all
the champions lined up.
565
00:24:09,582 --> 00:24:11,684
I thought he was a guy
who belonged onstage
566
00:24:11,718 --> 00:24:13,158
dancing around a bunch
of video games
567
00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:14,687
with a microphone.
568
00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,823
For me, video games
were pulling out the sword,
569
00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:19,258
getting on the horse, and
leading the army into battle,
570
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:22,629
fighting, battle,
winning, rivalry, warfare.
571
00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:25,197
Video games were fighting
and winning.
572
00:24:25,231 --> 00:24:28,200
He was just that edge of, like,
brilliant
573
00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:30,469
"I could sell snow to Eskimos"
kind of thing.
574
00:24:30,503 --> 00:24:32,615
We were the most famous
video game arcade in the world,
575
00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:34,406
so the mayor went along with it.
576
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,376
I proclaimed Ottumwa the video
game capital of the world,
577
00:24:37,409 --> 00:24:40,747
and we just challenge anybody
to prove that we're wrong.
578
00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:42,081
And then a little bit later,
579
00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:44,216
the governor of Iowa
came and confirmed it
580
00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:46,753
by announcing that Iowa
officially recognized
581
00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:48,564
Ottumwa as the video game
capital of the world.
582
00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:50,356
That's amazing
what he pulled off.
583
00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:52,559
Yeah, 'cause there's no
Internet back then,
584
00:24:52,592 --> 00:24:53,793
no mass communication.
585
00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:55,762
You know, outside
of the local arcade,
586
00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:58,030
you didn't know across the city
587
00:24:58,064 --> 00:24:59,498
if there's somebody better
than you.
588
00:24:59,532 --> 00:25:02,434
Just the sense, the feel,
the electricity
589
00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:06,706
in Twin Galaxies, Ottumwa,
that Walter brought to that,
590
00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:09,041
instantly you felt
that there's someone
591
00:25:09,075 --> 00:25:11,177
who really cared about
video game players,
592
00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,244
about high scores.
593
00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:13,379
You could feel that.
594
00:25:13,412 --> 00:25:16,415
And at that point,
everything was great.
595
00:25:20,887 --> 00:25:23,623
Here we have my 11-inch
Parahybana.
596
00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:25,457
She was eating a dead squirrel.
597
00:25:25,491 --> 00:25:26,659
At the end of three days,
598
00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:28,595
the squirrel didn't have
a head or an arm.
599
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,645
I got stung by a bee
when I was four years old.
600
00:25:45,678 --> 00:25:47,279
My way of getting back
at the bee
601
00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:50,149
was throwing bees
in a spider's web.
602
00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:51,860
I got some critters for you
to take a look at.
603
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:52,919
I'll bring 'em in there.
604
00:25:52,952 --> 00:25:55,354
Oh, wow.
605
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:56,455
They got big.
606
00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:57,857
This is the USA Flea Market,
607
00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:01,027
one of the flea markets in
central Florida that I frequent.
608
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,394
How you doing?
609
00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:05,540
It's a little off-center here.
610
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,966
Hang on,
I've got the glasses there.
611
00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:08,868
There you go.
612
00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:09,902
And how.
613
00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:14,941
And there's a few shops
that I stop at in here
614
00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:16,976
to purchase either lizard
or spider food.
615
00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:20,546
I probably have
40 different large ones,
616
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:25,685
and total overall,
maybe 200 total in my closet.
617
00:26:25,718 --> 00:26:26,819
Oh, yeah.
618
00:26:26,853 --> 00:26:27,820
Oh, yeah, both of them.
619
00:26:27,854 --> 00:26:28,888
Excellent.
620
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:29,889
There's a variety of ones.
621
00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,791
I have Goliath bird spiders
622
00:26:31,824 --> 00:26:34,326
that range
from 8 inches to 10 1/2.
623
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,595
Baby pink toe, south American
birch spider
624
00:26:36,629 --> 00:26:39,065
about the size of your little
pinky fingernail.
625
00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:40,566
Spiders have eight eyes,
eight legs,
626
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,401
and they live 25 to 40 years,
627
00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:44,036
hear your heartbeat
30 feet away.
628
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,438
We tried mating and putting
those males with her.
629
00:26:46,472 --> 00:26:47,807
That was a joke.
630
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,108
She came out... "rrr."
631
00:26:49,141 --> 00:26:50,342
Oh, no; Oh, no.
632
00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:52,178
Wow, it's hot in here.
633
00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:56,716
17-year-old Todd Rogers is,
well, a video game freak.
634
00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:59,919
The young man from Chicago
got the bug at 14
635
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:03,022
and now,
by almost anyone's definition,
636
00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:05,424
might well be considered
one of the world champions
637
00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:07,326
in home video competition.
638
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,496
Oh, Barnstorming,
you have to fly over windmills
639
00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:12,198
and through a barn
and avoiding geese.
640
00:27:12,231 --> 00:27:13,766
Every time you tap that stick,
641
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,703
it's 0.30 of a second that's
counted off on your time.
642
00:27:16,736 --> 00:27:19,371
I, of course, want to be
the best at what I do.
643
00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:20,840
If I'm gonna fly a perfect game,
644
00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:23,375
what's the bare minimum
that you can get on a game?
645
00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:26,078
The tape marks the top
of the windmill.
646
00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:28,881
And then the second set of tape
marks the very top
647
00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:30,416
of the bottom
inside of the barn.
648
00:27:30,449 --> 00:27:34,787
I had set 32.50 on it in front
of three Twin Galaxies referees
649
00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:35,922
and about 30 people.
650
00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:38,090
I have over 2,000 high scores.
651
00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:41,327
Toddzilla,
652
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,663
the king of video games,
Mr. Activision.
653
00:27:44,697 --> 00:27:47,333
A lot of companies look to have
talented gamers
654
00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:48,500
promote their products.
655
00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:50,036
"Well, why don't you do
a show for us?
656
00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:51,847
"We're gonna fly you in,
gonna pay your hotel.
657
00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:52,839
We're gonna feed you."
658
00:27:52,872 --> 00:27:54,173
And in my case, feeding me,
659
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:57,877
oh, that's worth its weight
in gold, you know.
660
00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:00,747
What could be better in life
than a 64-ounce Pepsi
661
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,081
and a piece of pizza
662
00:28:02,114 --> 00:28:03,850
and all the video games
you could play?
663
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,221
A few years ago,
664
00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:11,457
I tried to recreate a German
enigma cipher machine,
665
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,226
one of the first machine
encipherment things
666
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:16,628
that was used by the Germans
in World War II.
667
00:28:16,662 --> 00:28:21,233
I draw a lot of pleasure
from solving problems.
668
00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:24,670
I had a girlfriend one time.
669
00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:26,839
I was an introvert
with a broken heart.
670
00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:28,841
My one true love in my life
at that time
671
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,376
was a girl named
Kimberly Fennel.
672
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:31,543
She broke up with me.
673
00:28:31,577 --> 00:28:33,345
Heart was completely broken.
674
00:28:33,379 --> 00:28:34,914
And so I had all this time.
675
00:28:34,947 --> 00:28:36,715
And so what's gonna
fill the void?
676
00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:38,751
All the time you would spend
with a girlfriend
677
00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:41,287
I was spending with video games.
678
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,890
Battlezone, it was the game
that I was the best at,
679
00:28:43,923 --> 00:28:45,324
because I was very,
very aggressive
680
00:28:45,357 --> 00:28:47,093
in my style to that game.
681
00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:48,294
Most folks, when the tanks,
682
00:28:48,327 --> 00:28:50,205
the super tanks or the missiles
would come at you,
683
00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:53,165
they would back up so they'd
have more time to shoot.
684
00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:55,701
But I figured out the rhythm
of how they all moved,
685
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:56,812
so I would always go forward.
686
00:28:56,836 --> 00:28:58,037
Like Patton, right?
687
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:59,247
Patton had one standing order.
688
00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:00,807
Always attack.
689
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,075
If you're concentrating on
missiles coming to shoot you,
690
00:29:03,109 --> 00:29:06,846
you're not really wondering
where your ex-girlfriend is now.
691
00:29:06,879 --> 00:29:12,084
So I tried to go for the
Robotron world record.
692
00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:14,653
But I only lasted, like,
25 hours.
693
00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:18,324
I played frenzied
for 24 hours and five minutes.
694
00:29:18,357 --> 00:29:20,592
For me, 36 hours,
that was brutal.
695
00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:22,161
41 hours; That was brutal.
696
00:29:22,194 --> 00:29:23,129
42 hours.
697
00:29:23,162 --> 00:29:24,130
48 hours.
698
00:29:24,163 --> 00:29:25,397
60 hours straight.
699
00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:26,966
I think it was
68 hours straight.
700
00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:29,201
I started on a Saturday
and ended up on a Tuesday.
701
00:29:29,235 --> 00:29:30,675
I could be here
until Monday morning,
702
00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:31,880
but I have to go back to work.
703
00:29:31,904 --> 00:29:32,972
I had played, like,
704
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:34,673
Asteroids for something like
705
00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:37,009
I don't know,
eight days or something.
706
00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:49,788
Eventually the game gives out
or you give out.
707
00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:52,324
The only breaks I would take
would be to run to the bathroom.
708
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:53,893
You want to hydrate yourself,
709
00:29:53,926 --> 00:29:55,603
but you don't want to get
to the point where,
710
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:57,296
"oh, my god, I got to make mud."
711
00:29:57,329 --> 00:30:01,067
It gets to a certain point where
the average person will wither.
712
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,535
They just cannot take
the intensity.
713
00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:06,072
It's too fast
at the highest levels.
714
00:30:11,677 --> 00:30:12,644
My name is Robert Mruczek.
715
00:30:12,678 --> 00:30:14,613
I am the chief referee
716
00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:17,283
for the Twin Galaxies
intergalactic scoreboard.
717
00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:20,086
I've been chief referee
for the last four years.
718
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,654
I've been gaming since 1969.
719
00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:32,531
As a referee for Twin Galaxies,
it's my responsibilities,
720
00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:35,902
as quickly as I can, pending,
of course, my own availability,
721
00:30:35,935 --> 00:30:37,803
to watch these performances,
722
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,371
authenticate and make sure
they're done
723
00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:40,539
at the correct settings,
724
00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:41,908
and then when they are,
725
00:30:41,941 --> 00:30:44,476
to enter them into
the Twin Galaxies database.
726
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:47,179
I know the tournament settings
and the marathon settings
727
00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:48,514
in the back of my head.
728
00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:50,282
I'm familiar with
the world record holders,
729
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,617
what the scores are.
730
00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:55,387
I have video tapes, and I have
a few CD-ROMs and DVDs.
731
00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,323
The longest performance
is Nibbler.
732
00:30:57,356 --> 00:31:00,859
It's an expected
30-to 40-hour performance.
733
00:31:00,893 --> 00:31:05,131
I've seen or witnessed
more than 20,000 video tapes
734
00:31:05,164 --> 00:31:08,901
or world record scores
over the last 4 1/2 years.
735
00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:10,269
I almost don't sleep.
736
00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:11,403
I go to sleep between
737
00:31:11,437 --> 00:31:14,773
3:30 and 5:00
in the morning weekdays.
738
00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:17,376
There are days when I do 24-hour
stretches doing nothing
739
00:31:17,409 --> 00:31:18,877
but watching games
740
00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:21,547
on top of my regular job,
which is accounting,
741
00:31:21,580 --> 00:31:24,183
which I do 60 to 70 hours
a week.
742
00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:27,853
This is my 22-pound cat, Rusty.
743
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,991
He helps me watch my video tape
submissions sometimes
744
00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:34,526
by keeping me company while
I'm watching a tape.
745
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,562
Watching
a world's record performance
746
00:31:36,595 --> 00:31:38,497
is the ultimate satisfaction,
747
00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:40,732
seeing the game taken where
no one else has been able
748
00:31:40,766 --> 00:31:42,101
to take it before.
749
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:46,372
I think it is the single best
job I could possible have.
750
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,773
It doesn't pay anything,
751
00:31:47,806 --> 00:31:51,710
but as far as for what a gamer
likes to do, this is it.
752
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:54,746
It's not easy,
but I get it done.
753
00:31:58,184 --> 00:31:59,818
Welcome to
Video Game News Update.
754
00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:01,153
I'm Walter Day
755
00:32:01,187 --> 00:32:03,155
of the Twin Galaxies
international scoreboard.
756
00:32:03,189 --> 00:32:06,858
Imagine playing a video game
for 36 1/2 hours on one quarter.
757
00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:09,061
That's how Leo Daniels
of North Carolina
758
00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:12,664
earned a world record score of
169 million points on Robotron.
759
00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:14,300
Leo was a gaming genius.
760
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:15,701
He's very bright and brilliant.
761
00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:17,436
He was Mr. Video games.
762
00:32:17,469 --> 00:32:19,705
He had lightning-fast reflexes.
763
00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:23,175
It was just insane to watch him
in some of these games.
764
00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:27,813
It wasn't long until Leo had
records on multiple games.
765
00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:29,781
I didn't really start playing
the video games
766
00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:32,318
until Asteroids came out.
767
00:32:32,351 --> 00:32:35,187
I went down to...
It was Kure Beach Pier.
768
00:32:35,221 --> 00:32:37,856
There was a little, like,
putt-putt golf course thing.
769
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:39,258
And so I went back there,
770
00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:43,029
and there was this short little
guy with dark hair and glasses.
771
00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:45,631
You know, kind of roped off
from everybody else.
772
00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:48,967
And I remember just seeing all
these ships he had.
773
00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,236
He would leave one asteroid
774
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:52,214
and then fly from the bottom
to the top of the screen
775
00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:54,373
and then just kill the little
saucers for 300 points.
776
00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:55,974
And then it got me thinking,
777
00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:59,011
"wow, he outsmarted the game."
778
00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:19,965
The people you hang around
really reflects on you.
779
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,733
If you want to be
somebody successful,
780
00:33:21,767 --> 00:33:23,669
surround yourself
with successful people.
781
00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:26,405
Some people get married,
and they let that be the end
782
00:33:26,438 --> 00:33:27,873
where it should be
a new beginning.
783
00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:29,641
They, you know,
get a humdrum job
784
00:33:29,675 --> 00:33:31,110
that they don't like
going in to.
785
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,379
And they let that interfere
with their marriage.
786
00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:34,846
That wouldn't be fun for me.
787
00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:42,421
Hello?
788
00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:43,889
I'm still doing the interview.
789
00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:45,567
I told you I'd call
when they were through.
790
00:33:45,591 --> 00:33:47,359
She has the most super
personality
791
00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,095
of anybody I've ever met,
792
00:33:49,128 --> 00:33:51,163
out of any woman.
793
00:33:51,197 --> 00:33:53,099
I mean, look at this face.
794
00:33:53,132 --> 00:33:54,366
She smiles all the time,
795
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,935
which makes me smile
all the time.
796
00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:57,936
There's a lot of stuff.
797
00:33:57,969 --> 00:34:00,872
He's met a lot of people.
798
00:34:00,906 --> 00:34:02,541
But that's cool.
799
00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:04,943
He's the type of person
that always has an angle
800
00:34:04,976 --> 00:34:06,645
on something going somewhere.
801
00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:08,680
Everything that he did
in a video game,
802
00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,283
not cheating, but, again, like,
what we always used to do is
803
00:34:11,317 --> 00:34:13,185
go around the original rules
of the game
804
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:16,288
as the programmers
had thought of it to get ahead.
805
00:34:16,322 --> 00:34:19,225
And I think Leo does
the same kind of thing
806
00:34:19,258 --> 00:34:20,226
in real life too.
807
00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:21,227
I don't know.
808
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,528
Some folks never grow up.
809
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:25,097
Maybe they're just like
the whole Peter Pan thing,
810
00:34:25,131 --> 00:34:26,732
stuck in a video game.
811
00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:28,867
I continue to play games
812
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,412
not just because
it's a part of my past.
813
00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:32,238
Because it's a part of me.
814
00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:33,639
I grew up with them.
815
00:34:33,672 --> 00:34:34,849
You know, I don't feel my age.
816
00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:37,343
I don't think
I act my age at all.
817
00:34:37,376 --> 00:34:40,346
I think age is just a number.
818
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,816
This was the first time
video game players
819
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,685
on this level had ever met.
820
00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:49,087
It was the first time in my life
I met people at my level.
821
00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:52,691
And suddenly, I could not be
the best at every video game.
822
00:34:52,724 --> 00:34:54,293
Okay, these guys were too good.
823
00:34:54,326 --> 00:34:58,264
I hope in the near future to be
one of the very top players,
824
00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,500
between first and third
for video games.
825
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:05,837
When Joel and I met today,
we challenged each other.
826
00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:08,039
We can go right through
monsters.
827
00:35:08,073 --> 00:35:09,040
It's totally amazing.
828
00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:10,242
It's just totally amazing.
829
00:35:10,276 --> 00:35:12,154
It really made me look at
the way I play my game.
830
00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:13,145
And it was fun.
831
00:35:13,179 --> 00:35:14,346
It was humbling too,
832
00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:15,747
'cause they were better
than I was.
833
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,425
As all the other players
have seen you play
834
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,261
say that you are possibly one of
the best players
835
00:35:19,285 --> 00:35:20,752
they've ever seen.
836
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:24,556
We were just sort of,
in a sense, brothers.
837
00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:26,358
I think Steve Sanders
is probably
838
00:35:26,392 --> 00:35:28,059
the most outgoing player.
839
00:35:28,093 --> 00:35:29,995
He was really into
his Donkey Kong.
840
00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:33,399
Steve has set over
3 million points on Donkey Kong,
841
00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:35,401
which is an extremely high score
for that game.
842
00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:38,003
That is at once
a very proud moment for me
843
00:35:38,036 --> 00:35:40,539
and a very shameful,
embarrassing moment for me.
844
00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:41,707
And I'll tell you why.
845
00:35:51,217 --> 00:35:53,151
Lord, forgive us.
846
00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:56,021
We're hypocrites.
847
00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,457
We're just like those Pharisees.
848
00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:01,092
Help us to be Jesus
to the world.
849
00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:05,764
Help us to take his kindness
and compassion to everyone.
850
00:36:05,797 --> 00:36:10,269
We pray it for the sake
of Jesus and in his name.
851
00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:13,905
Amen.
852
00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:15,574
Thank you all.
853
00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,843
When I was 17, 18 years old,
854
00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:20,512
I had these license plates.
855
00:36:20,546 --> 00:36:22,581
He was trying to be famous
or whatever,
856
00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:23,749
which he was for a while.
857
00:36:23,782 --> 00:36:25,551
You know, he got a book deal
out of it.
858
00:36:25,584 --> 00:36:26,585
Unlike most people
859
00:36:26,618 --> 00:36:27,986
who have heard about
Twin Galaxies
860
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:30,155
either in a magazine
or on the radio,
861
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,157
I heard about it
when I was writing a book
862
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,393
called the video master's
guide to Donkey Kong.
863
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:38,063
When I was playing Donkey Kong,
invariably, some kid would go,
864
00:36:38,096 --> 00:36:41,233
"man, you must have read
the book."
865
00:36:41,267 --> 00:36:44,270
And my buddy would say,
"he wrote the book."
866
00:36:44,303 --> 00:36:45,971
So...
867
00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:51,610
Well, I guess
I had the attitude,
868
00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:52,911
particularly on Donkey Kong,
869
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,280
that nobody could beat me,
period.
870
00:36:54,313 --> 00:36:56,882
And I wouldn't tolerate anybody
telling me they could.
871
00:36:56,915 --> 00:36:58,717
By the time I knew
that I was right
872
00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:00,952
was when I was at Life magazine.
873
00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:02,426
It was very interesting
at that time.
874
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:04,031
In fact, I remember back,
like, you know,
875
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:05,733
somebody would be getting close
to a record,
876
00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,435
and it was like everybody would
almost stop.
877
00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:09,737
Boy, how could this guy get
3 million points at Donkey Kong?
878
00:37:09,761 --> 00:37:12,531
Like, I'm having trouble getting
6,000 or 7,000 points.
879
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,132
In front of what we'd believed
880
00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:16,735
was the 20 best players
in the world,
881
00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,470
I played him a game of
Donkey Kong.
882
00:37:18,504 --> 00:37:20,639
He got 190,000 in his game.
883
00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:21,973
After watching him
not being able
884
00:37:22,007 --> 00:37:25,477
to get over 250,000
to 300,000 points,
885
00:37:25,511 --> 00:37:29,481
which was 10% of his score
that he claimed to have...
886
00:37:29,515 --> 00:37:34,786
I got 849,000 points
on my first guy.
887
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:36,555
That was the end
of the questions.
888
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:40,859
And I just felt like the wind
had been taken out of my sails.
889
00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:41,993
I felt sucker punched.
890
00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:43,995
I forever put him in his place.
891
00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:46,965
My game play absolutely
intimidated him.
892
00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:48,900
In the spring of 1982,
893
00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:53,639
Walter came out
with a poster of high scores.
894
00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:56,742
When my score of 450,000
was reported
895
00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:59,177
as having been beaten
by somebody,
896
00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:01,813
I think from Leo Daniels'
arcade,
897
00:38:01,847 --> 00:38:02,914
I should have said,
898
00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:04,850
"Walter, I'll believe it
when I see it."
899
00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:07,185
What I did instead was, I lied.
900
00:38:07,218 --> 00:38:09,655
When I discovered players
were cheating,
901
00:38:09,688 --> 00:38:12,190
I was absolutely dumbfounded.
902
00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:14,493
I was silly enough to submit
that to Walter Day,
903
00:38:14,526 --> 00:38:16,662
and he was silly enough
to print that.
904
00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:19,465
And that score got in the
guinness book of world records.
905
00:38:19,498 --> 00:38:21,800
I was floored,
'cause I thought he was the,
906
00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:23,402
you know,
the Donkey Kong master.
907
00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:26,405
Some people, if they're good
at selling used cars,
908
00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:28,173
and they can lie
straight to somebody's face
909
00:38:28,206 --> 00:38:30,084
and feel good about it...
Some people can do that.
910
00:38:30,108 --> 00:38:32,310
The letter reads, "dear friends",
911
00:38:32,344 --> 00:38:35,681
to some of you, this letter
will be rather shocking news."
912
00:38:35,714 --> 00:38:37,649
But he sent everybody a letter
saying that,
913
00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:39,150
"look, I exaggerated my scores.
914
00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:40,819
This wasn't true."
915
00:38:40,852 --> 00:38:44,756
I am very sorry and very ashamed
of this whole ordeal.
916
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:48,293
"I have hurt Walter, Bill,
and Darren by my lies."
917
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:49,561
That kind of got me mad.
918
00:38:49,595 --> 00:38:51,606
It never occurred to me that
somebody could do that.
919
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:52,864
I didn't like him much.
920
00:38:52,898 --> 00:38:57,102
"My sincerest apologies
to you all, Steve Sanders."
921
00:38:57,135 --> 00:39:00,271
That was a hard letter to write,
but after I wrote it,
922
00:39:00,305 --> 00:39:02,774
I felt like the weight
of the world
923
00:39:02,808 --> 00:39:04,275
was lifted off my shoulders.
924
00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:09,214
By God's grace,
that event in my life,
925
00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:11,517
it is sort of a signpost,
926
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,520
a midnight star to guide
my direction now.
927
00:39:14,553 --> 00:39:15,687
Amen.
928
00:39:15,721 --> 00:39:17,956
Twin Galaxies
with the champions here,
929
00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:22,293
I think it was... made Ottumwa
kind of famous, kind of.
930
00:39:22,327 --> 00:39:23,629
We were like celebrities there.
931
00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:25,330
You know,
here's this small town,
932
00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,274
and all of a sudden you've got
these guys coming.
933
00:39:27,298 --> 00:39:29,200
The day we got there
and went to the arcade,
934
00:39:29,234 --> 00:39:31,202
they had to get us in
a side door,
935
00:39:31,236 --> 00:39:33,271
'cause the arcade was
overflowing with people.
936
00:39:33,304 --> 00:39:34,882
A lot of the guys
were out there partying.
937
00:39:34,906 --> 00:39:36,942
I mean, I was...
Maybe I was too much of a nerd.
938
00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:38,944
They had a 19-year-old
drinking age,
939
00:39:38,977 --> 00:39:41,880
so we were able to...
Or maybe it was 18.
940
00:39:41,913 --> 00:39:43,190
It might have been 18 back then.
941
00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,083
I remember the cheerleaders.
942
00:39:45,116 --> 00:39:46,918
They were from
the Ottumwa high school.
943
00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:49,421
We went up and introduced
ourselves, started talking,
944
00:39:49,455 --> 00:39:51,690
and then we ended up
spending some time together.
945
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:56,462
I'd never seen groupies before.
946
00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:57,696
That was pretty exciting.
947
00:39:57,729 --> 00:39:59,598
There were actually video game
groupies.
948
00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:01,399
We'd have groupies
hanging around us.
949
00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:03,635
Yeah, there were groupies.
950
00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:10,408
It's pretty weird,
951
00:40:10,442 --> 00:40:12,511
'cause Ottumwa doesn't seem like
a very big town,
952
00:40:12,544 --> 00:40:13,612
but now it is.
953
00:40:13,645 --> 00:40:14,980
I was shocked and thrilled,
954
00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:16,982
because I'm a goddess
appreciator.
955
00:40:17,015 --> 00:40:19,150
Just like there's
the Grateful Dead Deadheads
956
00:40:19,184 --> 00:40:20,318
who follow the group around.
957
00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:22,053
I'm married right now.
958
00:40:22,087 --> 00:40:23,565
I potentially have a very
jealous wife,
959
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:28,159
so I don't know if I can really
go down that road.
960
00:40:35,567 --> 00:40:38,169
Everybody said, "oh, Ben, I'll
bet you had girls after you."
961
00:40:38,203 --> 00:40:39,705
Not really.
962
00:40:39,738 --> 00:40:42,273
I was just fortunate that people
could look at me and,
963
00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:43,609
you know, not throw up.
964
00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:45,744
To me, that was not as much
of a social occasion
965
00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:50,148
as perhaps it could have been.
966
00:40:59,257 --> 00:41:02,160
I was never that coordinated
at sports.
967
00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:04,029
As I've always enjoyed
watching sports,
968
00:41:04,062 --> 00:41:05,531
but I was never that good
at playing.
969
00:41:05,564 --> 00:41:07,074
And I think when it came
to video games,
970
00:41:07,098 --> 00:41:08,366
I was good at them.
971
00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:10,311
And it was, you know, one of the
first things I found
972
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:11,779
that I was, you know,
able to excel at.
973
00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:14,606
And so that's probably
what drew me to it.
974
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,741
The first one was Frogger.
975
00:41:15,774 --> 00:41:17,475
I played and actually
beat the score
976
00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:19,978
that was listed on Walter Day's
record list.
977
00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:23,214
His hands were so cool,
and his head was so cool,
978
00:41:23,248 --> 00:41:25,951
whereas I would be gripping
ferociously to the joystick
979
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,185
trying to will it around.
980
00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:28,520
And so with Frogger,
981
00:41:28,554 --> 00:41:30,989
and again, my style was
not to just go as fast as I can
982
00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,057
and get to the home.
983
00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:34,492
My style was, take my time.
984
00:41:34,526 --> 00:41:36,695
If the traffic gets a little
too busy at the front,
985
00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:38,697
back up and start over again.
986
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:41,032
You know, there was enough time
for me to be patient,
987
00:41:41,066 --> 00:41:42,333
make sure I do it right,
988
00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:44,936
and to not worry about going
as fast as possible.
989
00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:47,939
He reminds me of a gunslinger
who's got a cool hand,
990
00:41:47,973 --> 00:41:50,542
almost like
a Clint Eastwood movie.
991
00:41:52,077 --> 00:41:53,077
Ooh!
992
00:41:54,379 --> 00:41:56,347
First of all,
it involves a lot of time
993
00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:58,183
and particularly patience.
994
00:41:58,216 --> 00:41:59,184
I'm very organized,
995
00:41:59,217 --> 00:42:01,352
a very organized person.
996
00:42:01,386 --> 00:42:02,353
If I go on a trip, you know,
997
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:03,789
I follow my list
of what to bring.
998
00:42:03,822 --> 00:42:07,058
Back then I always kept track of
my own personal top five songs.
999
00:42:07,092 --> 00:42:09,227
My number one song is
Play That Funky Music.
1000
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,196
Three song is Ballroom Blitz,
1001
00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:12,898
Hammer, back when he was called
MC Hammer,
1002
00:42:12,931 --> 00:42:14,600
some of the Tone-loc songs,
1003
00:42:14,633 --> 00:42:16,902
Wild Thing, you know,
Funky Cold Medina.
1004
00:42:16,935 --> 00:42:18,704
I work really hard
when I do work.
1005
00:42:18,737 --> 00:42:19,971
And so when I come home,
1006
00:42:20,005 --> 00:42:21,873
I'd like to be able to sit down
in my recliner
1007
00:42:21,907 --> 00:42:23,742
and just think about not much.
1008
00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:29,781
You know, even as a little kid,
1009
00:42:29,815 --> 00:42:31,650
I liked to do things
in a logical way.
1010
00:42:32,818 --> 00:42:34,653
You know, Mr. Spock
was one of my idols.
1011
00:42:36,221 --> 00:42:40,058
And so I think for me, you know,
it fit with my personality
1012
00:42:40,091 --> 00:42:46,164
of having patience
and persistence.
1013
00:42:46,197 --> 00:42:48,266
Let me read this letter to you.
1014
00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:50,836
I think this is one of
the funniest letters.
1015
00:42:50,869 --> 00:42:53,739
"I would like to enquire
about my name in video games
1016
00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:56,074
"under the heading
of high scores.
1017
00:42:56,107 --> 00:43:01,012
"My personal high score
on Q-Bert is 287,000 points.
1018
00:43:01,046 --> 00:43:03,882
"I noticed you do not have
a listing for Q-Bert.
1019
00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:05,183
"I was wondering if this is
1020
00:43:05,216 --> 00:43:08,219
"because you have not received
word of any high scores.
1021
00:43:08,253 --> 00:43:10,297
"Also, do I need to have this
high score made official,
1022
00:43:10,321 --> 00:43:11,556
"and how do I do it?
1023
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,591
I would appreciate you giving me
this information."
1024
00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:15,060
And it says,
1025
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:17,996
"your score isn't high enough
to qualify as number one.
1026
00:43:18,029 --> 00:43:20,431
"Presently, Ben Gold of Dallas
has that honor
1027
00:43:20,465 --> 00:43:26,271
with 17,899,325 points."
1028
00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:34,379
I thought that was really funny.
1029
00:43:34,412 --> 00:43:37,048
Okay.
1030
00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:40,752
Anyway...
1031
00:43:40,786 --> 00:43:43,254
Today on
the video game challenge,
1032
00:43:43,288 --> 00:43:45,857
expert players share
their winning secrets
1033
00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:47,392
and the championship match
1034
00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:50,595
between the world's highest
scoring players on Millipede.
1035
00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,597
Video games are sweeping
the world,
1036
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:54,532
and the revolution
is just beginning.
1037
00:43:54,565 --> 00:43:56,201
Practicing for this contest,
1038
00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:59,104
I was going at it about
eight to ten hours a day
1039
00:43:59,137 --> 00:44:00,872
every day
during Christmas break.
1040
00:44:00,906 --> 00:44:03,842
He was somebody that I always
thought, under pressure,
1041
00:44:03,875 --> 00:44:06,044
was one of the toughest guys
to beat.
1042
00:44:06,077 --> 00:44:09,214
He played in a Millipede contest
against Eric Ginner.
1043
00:44:09,247 --> 00:44:10,548
Are the players ready?
1044
00:44:10,581 --> 00:44:13,752
All right, for the World
Championship of Millipede,
1045
00:44:13,785 --> 00:44:16,154
three, two, one, shoot.
1046
00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:20,491
Eric was ahead of Ben,
and Ben was on his last guy.
1047
00:44:20,525 --> 00:44:23,394
And he just wasn't
gonna let Eric win.
1048
00:44:23,428 --> 00:44:26,264
And on that one last guy
that he had...
1049
00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:30,035
It looks like Ben Gold may be
in trouble in the high 800s.
1050
00:44:30,068 --> 00:44:31,803
He went 80,000 points.
1051
00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:34,305
And our winner is Ben Gold.
1052
00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:36,117
Eric, thank you very much
for a terrific game.
1053
00:44:36,141 --> 00:44:38,209
Sorry it didn't turn out better.
1054
00:44:38,243 --> 00:44:40,645
And, Ben, you're the world
champion Millipede shooter.
1055
00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:42,113
Here's the Millipede machine
1056
00:44:42,147 --> 00:44:45,116
that I won on
in that competition.
1057
00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:50,221
June 23, 1983: 892,304 points.
1058
00:44:50,255 --> 00:44:53,091
When young Ben Gold decides
to take on a video game,
1059
00:44:53,124 --> 00:44:54,793
he takes it on seriously.
1060
00:44:54,826 --> 00:44:57,128
At 16, he has mastered
some of the most complex games
1061
00:44:57,162 --> 00:44:58,429
in the world.
1062
00:44:58,463 --> 00:45:00,598
Mythology surrounded Ben
in what he did.
1063
00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:02,143
The rumors were,
"hey, I heard that Ben
1064
00:45:02,167 --> 00:45:04,502
"had this special gurney made
1065
00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:08,039
where he can lean back and still
be able to work the controls."
1066
00:45:08,073 --> 00:45:09,607
Even rumored
that he would go into
1067
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,109
a semi kind of sleep.
1068
00:45:11,142 --> 00:45:13,244
Other guys would be talking
smack or something,
1069
00:45:13,278 --> 00:45:15,256
and he would just get up
and say, "no, you're wrong"
1070
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,581
and then show them.
1071
00:45:16,614 --> 00:45:18,516
What am I gonna do, walk around,
you know,
1072
00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:22,553
"hey, I am the cool and groovy,
you know, video game master.
1073
00:45:22,587 --> 00:45:23,621
Do you want to touch me?"
1074
00:45:23,654 --> 00:45:26,825
I thought he was
the coolest guy ever.
1075
00:45:26,858 --> 00:45:30,061
At that point in time,
I was flying blind.
1076
00:45:30,095 --> 00:45:32,697
I didn't know what could
possibly come out of this.
1077
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,866
We got up there very early
in the morning.
1078
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,868
And for a while
it was kind of cold.
1079
00:45:36,902 --> 00:45:38,970
And for a while
it was kind of dark,
1080
00:45:39,004 --> 00:45:40,438
but then the sun began
to come up.
1081
00:45:40,471 --> 00:45:41,973
Well, we were in the street.
1082
00:45:42,007 --> 00:45:43,641
They wanted to avoid traffic,
1083
00:45:43,674 --> 00:45:45,143
not that there was much
in Ottumwa.
1084
00:45:45,176 --> 00:45:47,712
But more importantly is, I think
where the sun was rising,
1085
00:45:47,745 --> 00:45:49,347
they didn't want
to catch the sun...
1086
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:50,949
Or Life magazine was really
particular
1087
00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:52,383
in how they wanted to do...
1088
00:45:52,417 --> 00:45:54,352
This is the best sunlight
for the picture.
1089
00:45:54,385 --> 00:45:57,288
We were supposed to be there at
sunrise or something ridiculous.
1090
00:45:57,322 --> 00:45:59,224
Whenever we were there,
it was freezing.
1091
00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:01,392
I mean, the saying, if you're
from California,
1092
00:46:01,426 --> 00:46:02,736
anything that's 50 degrees
or less,
1093
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,728
you wear your down jacket.
1094
00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:04,996
For me, that was true.
1095
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:07,332
Boy, you know, I felt cold
wearing my down jacket.
1096
00:46:07,365 --> 00:46:09,543
And I saw these cheerleaders
wearing their short skirts.
1097
00:46:09,567 --> 00:46:11,369
I thought,
"they must be freezing."
1098
00:46:12,437 --> 00:46:13,839
I always wondered why Walter
1099
00:46:13,872 --> 00:46:15,306
didn't want to get
in the picture.
1100
00:46:15,340 --> 00:46:17,475
The kids shouted for me
to get in the photograph,
1101
00:46:17,508 --> 00:46:19,020
and I said,
"no, no, this is your glory.
1102
00:46:19,044 --> 00:46:20,244
I'll stand here and watch it."
1103
00:46:52,277 --> 00:46:54,412
Life magazine
was quite incredible.
1104
00:46:54,445 --> 00:46:55,847
I mean, as far as those players,
1105
00:46:55,881 --> 00:46:57,892
we just thought that was
the best thing in the world.
1106
00:46:57,916 --> 00:46:59,885
Oh, yeah, it was
an idyllic dream for them.
1107
00:46:59,918 --> 00:47:02,888
This is one of their biggest
fantasy moments in their life.
1108
00:47:02,921 --> 00:47:05,156
Video game VIPs.
1109
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:06,824
I'd walk in the arcade.
1110
00:47:06,858 --> 00:47:08,293
People knew who I was.
1111
00:47:08,326 --> 00:47:09,928
They saw these tournaments.
1112
00:47:09,961 --> 00:47:11,196
They saw the TV shows.
1113
00:47:11,229 --> 00:47:13,131
They saw the Life magazine.
1114
00:47:13,164 --> 00:47:14,265
It was a big deal.
1115
00:47:14,299 --> 00:47:15,833
I would walk in supermarkets.
1116
00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:17,435
"Oh, you're Ben Gold."
1117
00:47:17,468 --> 00:47:19,804
Everywhere they went, people
poured attention on them.
1118
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:20,915
Girls fell in love with them.
1119
00:47:20,939 --> 00:47:22,273
Adventures happened to them.
1120
00:47:22,307 --> 00:47:24,175
I personally don't know
anyone else
1121
00:47:24,209 --> 00:47:25,476
who's been in Life magazine.
1122
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:26,844
I just remember a few things.
1123
00:47:26,878 --> 00:47:28,856
God, I haven't looked at that
picture in a long time.
1124
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,448
And if I had to do it
all over again,
1125
00:47:30,481 --> 00:47:31,849
I would have been in
the photograph
1126
00:47:31,883 --> 00:47:33,151
with my game in the lineup too,
1127
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,552
which would have been Make Trax,
1128
00:47:34,585 --> 00:47:36,087
which I was
the world champion of.
1129
00:47:36,121 --> 00:47:38,957
For video games, this is the
equivalent
1130
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:40,325
of the Sgt. Pepper's album.
1131
00:47:48,233 --> 00:47:51,102
I had no idea
what this was gonna mean.
1132
00:47:51,136 --> 00:47:52,670
All I knew is I was having fun.
1133
00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:54,305
This was excitement.
1134
00:47:54,339 --> 00:47:58,609
It was something no other arcade
probably has equaled since.
1135
00:47:58,643 --> 00:47:59,644
You need to be still.
1136
00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:02,113
Wait a second.
1137
00:48:05,984 --> 00:48:11,156
When somebody comes along
that is good and challenges you,
1138
00:48:11,189 --> 00:48:13,224
that's iron sharpening iron.
1139
00:48:13,258 --> 00:48:16,227
It goes back to taking an ax
and sharpening it
1140
00:48:16,261 --> 00:48:17,695
against a piece of iron.
1141
00:48:17,728 --> 00:48:20,331
That's the only way it's gonna
become better, sharper.
1142
00:48:20,365 --> 00:48:23,168
And what Ron Bailey did for me,
he sharpened me.
1143
00:48:23,201 --> 00:48:24,635
I hate to call him
a father figure
1144
00:48:24,669 --> 00:48:26,371
if he doesn't want
to be called that,
1145
00:48:26,404 --> 00:48:28,773
but he was a good mentor.
1146
00:48:28,806 --> 00:48:32,243
For some reason, I was eating
breakfast up here in Shelby.
1147
00:48:32,277 --> 00:48:34,745
And I walked in,
and there sat Joel.
1148
00:48:34,779 --> 00:48:37,082
He came in,
and I was having breakfast.
1149
00:48:37,115 --> 00:48:38,683
I had met someone for breakfast,
1150
00:48:38,716 --> 00:48:41,286
a young lady I was trying
to impress, you know.
1151
00:48:41,319 --> 00:48:43,955
Hadn't seen him in a while.
1152
00:48:43,989 --> 00:48:47,225
And he came off very arrogant
and very braggadocios
1153
00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:51,229
and told me, he said,
"I just beat your world record."
1154
00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:53,931
He was real upset.
1155
00:48:53,965 --> 00:48:56,667
There's some things
you don't do.
1156
00:48:56,701 --> 00:49:00,871
You don't put a man down
in front of his girl.
1157
00:49:00,905 --> 00:49:04,542
And I have not seen him
since that day.
1158
00:49:04,575 --> 00:49:07,712
I haven't talked to him
in over 20 years.
1159
00:49:07,745 --> 00:49:09,547
I didn't know
if he was still around.
1160
00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:12,550
I was told he was in Gastonia.
1161
00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:15,320
Probably less than 30 miles.
1162
00:49:15,353 --> 00:49:17,088
It's amazing.
1163
00:49:17,122 --> 00:49:21,959
That's why I say it's so
bizarre, some of the episodes.
1164
00:49:21,993 --> 00:49:23,561
I would put such great
importance
1165
00:49:23,594 --> 00:49:24,829
on these kind of things,
1166
00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:26,640
and they'd stick
in your mind like this but...
1167
00:49:26,664 --> 00:49:29,067
They say I'm gonna meet him
tomorrow.
1168
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:30,468
And I look forward to that.
1169
00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:31,836
I figure we'll go in,
1170
00:49:31,869 --> 00:49:33,338
and we'll trash talk
a little bit
1171
00:49:33,371 --> 00:49:35,706
and get down to some playing
1172
00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:38,543
and see if the camaraderie
is still there
1173
00:49:38,576 --> 00:49:41,179
or if the competitiveness has
made us, you know,
1174
00:49:41,212 --> 00:49:44,215
rivals or something.
1175
00:49:52,423 --> 00:49:56,227
The power is coming on
once I turn it on,
1176
00:49:56,261 --> 00:50:02,067
but the screen is cycling,
but it's not wanting to come on.
1177
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,169
Ron's an engineer.
1178
00:50:04,202 --> 00:50:06,003
He's a ham radio operator,
1179
00:50:06,037 --> 00:50:08,406
so I figure he would have more
experience
1180
00:50:08,439 --> 00:50:09,640
in doing something like this.
1181
00:50:09,674 --> 00:50:11,314
And since maybe we're gonna
battle anyway,
1182
00:50:11,342 --> 00:50:12,943
maybe our two machines
can become one
1183
00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:14,912
or something after 20 years.
1184
00:50:16,214 --> 00:50:17,654
It's gonna be interesting
to see him,
1185
00:50:17,682 --> 00:50:19,793
you know, you have this picture
of someone in your mind,
1186
00:50:19,817 --> 00:50:26,391
how they looked 20,
22 years ago.
1187
00:50:26,424 --> 00:50:31,896
I'm the age now that he was
the last time I saw him.
1188
00:50:31,929 --> 00:50:34,632
It's gonna be interesting.
1189
00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:49,914
That's the house,
'cause there's the radio towers.
1190
00:51:15,373 --> 00:51:18,176
The first time Chris and I met
I was playing Ms. Pac-man,
1191
00:51:18,209 --> 00:51:19,710
and he was looking over
my shoulder.
1192
00:51:19,744 --> 00:51:20,811
I finished five boards.
1193
00:51:20,845 --> 00:51:21,946
He says, "wow."
1194
00:51:21,979 --> 00:51:22,947
He sat down next to me.
1195
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:24,149
He put a quarter in, and bang.
1196
00:51:24,182 --> 00:51:26,751
He had 776,000
on the first shot.
1197
00:51:26,784 --> 00:51:27,918
It's in your DNA.
1198
00:51:27,952 --> 00:51:29,454
You have it, or you don't.
1199
00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:33,691
He is every reason why I am
the video game champion.
1200
00:51:33,724 --> 00:51:35,360
Everything I've done
I owe to him.
1201
00:51:35,393 --> 00:51:37,928
If I hadn't met him,
if we hadn't pushed each other,
1202
00:51:37,962 --> 00:51:39,730
I would not have achieved
what I've achieved,
1203
00:51:39,764 --> 00:51:41,466
similar to Mark McGwire
and Sammy Sosa
1204
00:51:41,499 --> 00:51:42,900
in the home run derby.
1205
00:51:42,933 --> 00:51:45,403
This pattern
is called tunnel terror.
1206
00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:48,506
It's called that because it's
considered the safest pattern.
1207
00:51:48,539 --> 00:51:53,511
It's 56 seconds long,
and 28 of the 56 seconds,
1208
00:51:53,544 --> 00:51:57,215
the three priority monsters
are in the tunnel.
1209
00:51:57,248 --> 00:52:00,751
As long as you're in the tunnel,
they can't do you any harm.
1210
00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:03,888
That's exactly one half
of the maze.
1211
00:52:03,921 --> 00:52:06,557
They get put in the tunnel here,
1212
00:52:06,591 --> 00:52:09,727
and they just continually
get pushed back and forth.
1213
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,729
The only reason they're let out
of the tunnel
1214
00:52:11,762 --> 00:52:13,531
for any period of time
1215
00:52:13,564 --> 00:52:16,567
is when we have to get the key
in the center of the screen.
1216
00:52:16,601 --> 00:52:18,303
The key in the center
of the screen we need
1217
00:52:18,336 --> 00:52:20,605
simply 'cause
we need the points.
1218
00:52:20,638 --> 00:52:23,641
Otherwise we just keep them
locked in the tunnel.
1219
00:52:23,674 --> 00:52:25,142
So we got the key,
1220
00:52:25,176 --> 00:52:28,513
and now we're gonna
send them back in the tunnel.
1221
00:52:28,546 --> 00:52:34,519
Again, they spend their life
in the tunnel.
1222
00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:42,927
That was close.
1223
00:52:45,095 --> 00:52:47,332
Well, I started playing
Missile Command
1224
00:52:47,365 --> 00:52:50,401
because it was put into the
lobby of my student dorm
1225
00:52:50,435 --> 00:52:52,537
at the university co-op at UCLA,
1226
00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:54,305
'cause when people were playing
video games,
1227
00:52:54,339 --> 00:52:55,873
they say, "oh, you're awesome."
1228
00:52:55,906 --> 00:52:57,618
And I was kind of like...
And all of a sudden,
1229
00:52:57,642 --> 00:52:59,886
some girl pinched me on the ass
and called me Mr. Awesome.
1230
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:01,279
And it kind of, like, stuck on.
1231
00:53:01,312 --> 00:53:02,647
So I liked it after that.
1232
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,016
It's like a psychological escape
place for me.
1233
00:53:06,050 --> 00:53:08,018
It's where I pretend
I'm king of the world,
1234
00:53:08,052 --> 00:53:09,796
you know, who can get
any chick that he wants,
1235
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,289
and he's a video game stud.
1236
00:53:11,322 --> 00:53:12,399
And he walks down the street,
1237
00:53:12,423 --> 00:53:13,791
and everyone
wants his autograph.
1238
00:53:13,824 --> 00:53:15,264
I mean, everybody
wants to be famous.
1239
00:53:15,293 --> 00:53:17,161
I mean, everybody
wants to be somebody special.
1240
00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:20,431
I mean, you know,
unless they're walking around
1241
00:53:20,465 --> 00:53:21,708
without a pair of balls, I mean.
1242
00:53:21,732 --> 00:53:24,134
This book is in fact
the most important
1243
00:53:24,168 --> 00:53:26,537
literary accomplishment
in American history,
1244
00:53:26,571 --> 00:53:29,940
because it reveals the truth
about success in America today.
1245
00:53:29,974 --> 00:53:31,742
You know, America is a country
of immigrants,
1246
00:53:31,776 --> 00:53:34,345
and immigrants is what make
this country great.
1247
00:53:34,379 --> 00:53:36,747
The most successful immigrant
this country has ever had
1248
00:53:36,781 --> 00:53:38,549
is in fact
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
1249
00:53:38,583 --> 00:53:41,185
The Mr. Awesome program
is kind of like an expose
1250
00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:44,722
on exactly the footsteps that
Arnold used to be successful.
1251
00:53:44,755 --> 00:53:46,624
And not many people
really notice.
1252
00:53:46,657 --> 00:53:48,926
I mean, I don't have any direct
proof of it,
1253
00:53:48,959 --> 00:53:51,662
but he made his entire fortune
1254
00:53:51,696 --> 00:53:53,798
as a drug dealer
and a prostitute.
1255
00:53:53,831 --> 00:53:56,200
Yeah, I'm being serious.
1256
00:53:56,233 --> 00:53:58,102
All these players will be on
That's Incredible.
1257
00:53:58,135 --> 00:53:59,470
In Life magazine,
1258
00:53:59,504 --> 00:54:01,739
they did announce there was
gonna be this competition.
1259
00:54:01,772 --> 00:54:03,684
And whoever wins gets to go on
That's Incredible!
1260
00:54:03,708 --> 00:54:05,376
You may not ultimately win.
1261
00:54:05,410 --> 00:54:06,511
If you're in the top three,
1262
00:54:06,544 --> 00:54:07,912
you get to go on
That's Incredible!
1263
00:54:07,945 --> 00:54:09,113
Like, whatever.
1264
00:54:09,146 --> 00:54:11,015
That's Incredible!
Was incredible.
1265
00:54:11,048 --> 00:54:12,717
It was a great show.
1266
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:15,653
When I was asked to go to the
That's Incredible tournament,
1267
00:54:15,686 --> 00:54:17,322
it was the highlight
of my career.
1268
00:54:17,355 --> 00:54:19,490
People outside looking in
through the windows,
1269
00:54:19,524 --> 00:54:21,826
watching all of us.
1270
00:54:21,859 --> 00:54:23,461
I was wearing a hooded
gray sweatshirt,
1271
00:54:23,494 --> 00:54:25,763
and I'm looking in as if, like,
you know,
1272
00:54:25,796 --> 00:54:27,374
it's like the coolest thing
in the world.
1273
00:54:27,398 --> 00:54:29,634
Ottumwa teens have spent
about a thousand hours
1274
00:54:29,667 --> 00:54:32,337
since Christmas building
a computer network
1275
00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:34,104
that made Twin Galaxies
scoreboard
1276
00:54:34,138 --> 00:54:35,673
a marvel of high tech.
1277
00:54:35,706 --> 00:54:37,475
On your mark.
1278
00:54:37,508 --> 00:54:38,543
Get set.
1279
00:54:38,576 --> 00:54:40,277
Go.
1280
00:54:40,311 --> 00:54:41,278
Oh, it was very intense.
1281
00:54:41,312 --> 00:54:42,447
People were very focused.
1282
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,382
People were very serious
about the competition.
1283
00:54:44,415 --> 00:54:45,816
I wanted so much to do well
1284
00:54:45,850 --> 00:54:49,487
and get on the actual stage
TV show.
1285
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,789
It's really easy
to mess the tournament up.
1286
00:54:51,822 --> 00:54:54,058
You either qualified
in one of those three places,
1287
00:54:54,091 --> 00:54:55,560
or you went home.
1288
00:54:55,593 --> 00:54:58,095
The games were set on their hard
setting, and one chance.
1289
00:54:58,128 --> 00:55:00,565
It was so close
1290
00:55:00,598 --> 00:55:03,834
that no one knew who had won
except me.
1291
00:55:03,868 --> 00:55:06,203
After all five games
being completed,
1292
00:55:06,236 --> 00:55:07,838
here are the top finalists.
1293
00:55:07,872 --> 00:55:09,474
Ben Gold.
1294
00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:11,942
Well, I thought I was doomed
right before the Frogger.
1295
00:55:11,976 --> 00:55:13,344
But then everyone choked.
1296
00:55:13,378 --> 00:55:16,747
Darren Olson, Todd Walker.
1297
00:55:16,781 --> 00:55:18,349
In Iowa I was first.
1298
00:55:18,383 --> 00:55:20,518
Darren came in second,
and I came in third.
1299
00:55:20,551 --> 00:55:21,752
That's Incredible!
1300
00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:28,359
I remember going to the studio.
1301
00:55:28,393 --> 00:55:29,460
That was real fun.
1302
00:55:29,494 --> 00:55:31,729
We got to eat with the stars,
1303
00:55:31,762 --> 00:55:34,632
Cathy Lee Crosby, John Davidson,
Fran Tarkenton
1304
00:55:34,665 --> 00:55:36,667
right at our table,
right across from us.
1305
00:55:36,701 --> 00:55:40,237
There was either four or five
games that were on stage.
1306
00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:41,906
This game is called Burgertime.
1307
00:55:41,939 --> 00:55:45,342
The pickles,
there was, like, an egg
1308
00:55:45,376 --> 00:55:47,311
that would run around
and chase...
1309
00:55:47,344 --> 00:55:49,146
Yeah, he'd throw salt.
1310
00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:51,882
Or, no, no, he throws pepper
at the various food items
1311
00:55:51,916 --> 00:55:54,284
that are chasing him
in order to shock them
1312
00:55:54,318 --> 00:55:56,296
and make them sort of, like,
stop for a little while
1313
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,157
so he has a little more time
to go and do the burger making.
1314
00:56:00,190 --> 00:56:02,359
Burgertime
I had never played before.
1315
00:56:02,393 --> 00:56:04,895
And both Ben and Todd had.
1316
00:56:04,929 --> 00:56:07,064
And I remember approaching them
and asking them,
1317
00:56:07,097 --> 00:56:09,567
"can you guys just show me a
little bit something on there?"
1318
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,368
And both of them say,
"absolutely not.
1319
00:56:11,402 --> 00:56:13,337
It's Canada against the U.S."
1320
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:17,041
Let's welcome Darren Olson from
Calgary, Alberta, in Canada;
1321
00:56:17,074 --> 00:56:20,344
Todd Walker, from Milpitas,
California;
1322
00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:22,847
And Ben Gold, from Dallas,
Texas.
1323
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,148
There was an audience.
1324
00:56:24,181 --> 00:56:26,984
And we did it, like,
a live filming.
1325
00:56:27,017 --> 00:56:28,018
On your mark.
1326
00:56:28,052 --> 00:56:29,954
Get set.
1327
00:56:29,987 --> 00:56:30,988
Go.
1328
00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:32,423
It was really intense.
1329
00:56:32,457 --> 00:56:34,391
There was no sense
of friendship.
1330
00:56:34,425 --> 00:56:36,060
It was... everybody was an enemy.
1331
00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:37,828
Todd was the best player.
1332
00:56:37,862 --> 00:56:39,997
You know,
and at that point in time,
1333
00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:41,799
he was the best player
in all of the U.S.
1334
00:56:41,832 --> 00:56:45,536
I had to perform at my peak
and had to have some people
1335
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:46,804
perform below their peaks
1336
00:56:46,837 --> 00:56:49,206
in order to win
this competition.
1337
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,542
I misfired on a Burgertime.
1338
00:56:51,576 --> 00:56:52,986
I think it was
a salt or pepper shaker
1339
00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:54,378
or something, you know.
1340
00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:56,380
Todd's about to make a costly
mistake.
1341
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:57,848
The pepper's
in the wrong direction,
1342
00:56:57,882 --> 00:56:59,383
and loses the chef.
1343
00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:02,620
Is every gold medalist the best
player in their sport?
1344
00:57:02,653 --> 00:57:03,888
Maybe not.
1345
00:57:03,921 --> 00:57:07,625
But in that one moment in time,
they were the best.
1346
00:57:07,658 --> 00:57:10,227
He's got it.
1347
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:11,500
Anybody could have won any day.
1348
00:57:11,529 --> 00:57:12,630
Darren was just as good.
1349
00:57:12,663 --> 00:57:13,964
It would have made
no difference.
1350
00:57:13,998 --> 00:57:15,866
I ended up getting through it.
1351
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:17,602
But I ended up
getting third place
1352
00:57:17,635 --> 00:57:22,707
instead of what I was hoping for
was a first.
1353
00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:28,679
I know how a famous person
feels, because, like,
1354
00:57:28,713 --> 00:57:30,247
"click, click, click,
click, click,"
1355
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,551
you know, a hundred flashes in,
you know, in ten seconds,
1356
00:57:33,584 --> 00:57:36,453
just the entire place
just flashing pictures.
1357
00:57:36,487 --> 00:57:37,855
I mean,
anytime that I did anything
1358
00:57:37,888 --> 00:57:38,989
in the video game world,
1359
00:57:39,023 --> 00:57:40,758
it was like,
"world champion Ben Gold,
1360
00:57:40,791 --> 00:57:42,960
blah, blah, blah, blah."
1361
00:57:42,993 --> 00:57:44,595
I'm like, "yeah, whatever."
1362
00:57:50,801 --> 00:57:53,871
In February of '83,
the phone rang.
1363
00:57:53,904 --> 00:57:56,707
And it was a man from a company
called meeting planners,
1364
00:57:56,741 --> 00:57:57,808
which was in Boston.
1365
00:57:57,842 --> 00:57:59,109
His name was Jim Reilly,
1366
00:57:59,143 --> 00:58:01,812
and explained to me that he had
stayed up all night
1367
00:58:01,846 --> 00:58:03,781
thinking about this creative
idea
1368
00:58:03,814 --> 00:58:05,850
for doing an electronic circus.
1369
00:58:05,883 --> 00:58:08,152
Almost like
a video game theme park
1370
00:58:08,185 --> 00:58:09,787
in different cities
around the country.
1371
00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:12,489
Like the big car shows
that go from city to city.
1372
00:58:12,523 --> 00:58:13,924
I would be the ring master,
1373
00:58:13,958 --> 00:58:16,193
and my superstars would be
an actual circus act.
1374
00:58:16,226 --> 00:58:18,663
People could and challenge
the video game players,
1375
00:58:18,696 --> 00:58:20,006
try to beat us
on our world records
1376
00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:21,999
or at least have fun trying,
anyway.
1377
00:58:22,032 --> 00:58:24,869
They were gonna start paying us
to play.
1378
00:58:24,902 --> 00:58:27,071
It was easy to think it would
be like a sport.
1379
00:58:27,104 --> 00:58:28,505
Playing video games
for a living?
1380
00:58:28,539 --> 00:58:30,708
Going from town to town
playing video games.
1381
00:58:30,741 --> 00:58:32,276
It was kind of like a dream job.
1382
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:34,545
And then when somebody actually
put us on a plane
1383
00:58:34,579 --> 00:58:36,557
and flew us to Boston,
"well, maybe this could be."
1384
00:58:36,581 --> 00:58:39,216
Boston ruled.
1385
00:58:57,401 --> 00:58:59,637
And they had hundreds, like,
500 games.
1386
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,438
The battle of the superstars,
1387
00:59:01,471 --> 00:59:04,008
video game champions
from across the United States
1388
00:59:04,041 --> 00:59:05,710
compete daily
to set new high scores.
1389
00:59:05,743 --> 00:59:07,712
They had different little
theme areas,
1390
00:59:07,745 --> 00:59:09,413
so if they'd have, like, say,
Donkey Kong,
1391
00:59:09,446 --> 00:59:11,181
we'd be, like, in a jungle room.
1392
00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:13,584
Plus they were gonna have
rock bands there.
1393
00:59:13,618 --> 00:59:15,219
Air supply was there.
1394
00:59:15,252 --> 00:59:17,287
If I remember right,
we had a curfew.
1395
00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:22,392
And we had beer cans and stuff
stacked all up.
1396
00:59:25,462 --> 00:59:26,840
But, I mean, like, they would,
like,
1397
00:59:26,864 --> 00:59:28,198
drop firecrackers in the toilet.
1398
00:59:28,232 --> 00:59:29,776
I remember them saying that if,
you know,
1399
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,578
if we do anything like that,
we're kicked off.
1400
00:59:31,602 --> 00:59:33,938
And within our contract it
specifically stated
1401
00:59:33,971 --> 00:59:36,073
how it was we had to conduct
ourselves with groupies.
1402
00:59:36,106 --> 00:59:37,274
It was kind of crazy.
1403
00:59:37,307 --> 00:59:39,076
We were all, you know,
late-teen boys.
1404
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:40,845
It was kind of typical, I guess.
1405
00:59:40,878 --> 00:59:44,581
"Therefore, I, Kevin H. White,
urge the citizens of Boston
1406
00:59:44,615 --> 00:59:46,917
to recognize
this special occasion."
1407
00:59:46,951 --> 00:59:47,952
They didn't.
1408
00:59:47,985 --> 00:59:49,754
Very few people showed up.
1409
00:59:49,787 --> 00:59:51,889
It didn't last much more
than five days.
1410
00:59:51,922 --> 00:59:53,390
And it was very obvious.
1411
00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:55,525
That first day,
then the second day, nobody.
1412
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,795
So they literally just closed
everything down.
1413
00:59:57,828 --> 01:00:00,530
They told us we were gonna have
to pay for our own ticket home,
1414
01:00:00,564 --> 01:00:02,244
and they were gonna take it
out of our pay.
1415
01:00:03,167 --> 01:00:04,769
So it got kind of crummy
at that point.
1416
01:00:04,802 --> 01:00:09,840
That was the one that really
just literally
1417
01:00:09,874 --> 01:00:13,010
just kind of crushed
all my dreams.
1418
01:00:13,043 --> 01:00:16,280
I think partly 'cause of,
whatever, naivety of the age
1419
01:00:16,313 --> 01:00:17,953
but also because it was
a brand-new thing,
1420
01:00:17,982 --> 01:00:19,549
and nobody knew
what it would become.
1421
01:00:19,583 --> 01:00:23,353
My entire career as a
professional video game player,
1422
01:00:23,387 --> 01:00:25,823
it mostly was about hopes
and dreams and plans.
1423
01:00:25,856 --> 01:00:27,958
It never was about
any real money.
1424
01:00:27,992 --> 01:00:31,561
And who knows why each thing
would crash and burn?
1425
01:00:31,595 --> 01:00:32,997
But we're still moving forward,
1426
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:34,675
and I'm still putting foot
in front of foot
1427
01:00:34,699 --> 01:00:35,733
in front of foot,
1428
01:00:35,766 --> 01:00:37,177
and I accept the whole fun
experience
1429
01:00:37,201 --> 01:00:39,469
on the level
of the adventure it is.
1430
01:01:14,805 --> 01:01:17,141
We both share the same passion
for the industry.
1431
01:01:17,174 --> 01:01:19,877
And we certainly both share
the same passion for history
1432
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:21,912
and that history
is worth preserving.
1433
01:01:21,946 --> 01:01:25,082
Here in Washington, we're gonna
go to the Library of Congress.
1434
01:01:25,115 --> 01:01:27,484
'Cause they have magazines like
Play Meter and Vending Times
1435
01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:29,019
and Cashbox and Billboard
1436
01:01:29,053 --> 01:01:31,555
that have
all these historic moments.
1437
01:01:31,588 --> 01:01:33,490
The whole history of video games
are there.
1438
01:01:38,295 --> 01:01:41,331
"Newspaper urges pinball
to describe bagatelle."
1439
01:01:41,365 --> 01:01:42,508
This is right at the beginning
1440
01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:44,444
when they first started using
the word "pinball."
1441
01:01:44,468 --> 01:01:46,536
We're the first people to
revisit the long,
1442
01:01:46,570 --> 01:01:48,739
glorious history
of electronic gaming,
1443
01:01:48,773 --> 01:01:52,142
just like you find happening
to the history of the NFL
1444
01:01:52,176 --> 01:01:54,912
or the history of the NHL
or baseball history.
1445
01:01:54,945 --> 01:01:57,081
It's bigger than movies.
1446
01:01:57,114 --> 01:01:58,282
It's bigger than music.
1447
01:01:58,315 --> 01:02:00,517
It's the biggest business
in America.
1448
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:02,352
It's only gonna continue
to grow.
1449
01:02:02,386 --> 01:02:03,620
It grows each and every year.
1450
01:02:03,653 --> 01:02:07,758
So not to capture the history
of that would be sinful.
1451
01:02:07,792 --> 01:02:10,527
There's no way our book could go
to press without coming here
1452
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,629
and going page by page
in all these magazines,
1453
01:02:12,662 --> 01:02:14,474
not knowing where we were gonna
find the story,
1454
01:02:14,498 --> 01:02:15,665
but just looking for them
1455
01:02:15,699 --> 01:02:17,434
and getting all that stuff
that would finish
1456
01:02:17,467 --> 01:02:19,203
our book of records.
1457
01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:23,941
I often feel guilt
that I'm out going and doing
1458
01:02:23,974 --> 01:02:25,542
this video game stuff
1459
01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:29,313
when I know that it would really
be much more beneficial
1460
01:02:29,346 --> 01:02:34,819
to the world having a music
career and writing my novels.
1461
01:02:34,852 --> 01:02:37,855
That's right, it's popcorn.
1462
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,269
Yeah, we were under the gun
four times last year
1463
01:02:52,302 --> 01:02:54,939
with the hurricanes
that had gone through.
1464
01:02:54,972 --> 01:02:56,506
And, oh, look at that.
1465
01:02:56,540 --> 01:02:57,540
Uh.
1466
01:03:03,413 --> 01:03:06,150
The last year it rained so hard,
when the wind kicked up,
1467
01:03:06,183 --> 01:03:08,886
it blew the carport back
like a tuna can.
1468
01:03:08,919 --> 01:03:11,922
It looks like shit.
1469
01:03:14,424 --> 01:03:15,459
They sell you the stuff.
1470
01:03:15,492 --> 01:03:17,494
And I would like
to program some some day
1471
01:03:17,527 --> 01:03:19,167
and make people...
When they see my games...
1472
01:03:19,196 --> 01:03:20,264
They're going to buy them
1473
01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:21,937
just as much as they buy
these cartridges.
1474
01:03:21,966 --> 01:03:24,568
So you want to get in
the business then, huh?
1475
01:03:24,601 --> 01:03:26,470
And play my own games
if I make any.
1476
01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:28,638
Yeah, yeah, you got some ideas?
1477
01:03:28,672 --> 01:03:29,639
I got a few.
1478
01:03:29,673 --> 01:03:30,640
I don't know.
1479
01:03:30,674 --> 01:03:31,842
I don't know.
1480
01:03:31,876 --> 01:03:33,944
I really don't know
where it went downhill.
1481
01:03:33,978 --> 01:03:36,881
Alls I know is,
the magazine went belly-up.
1482
01:03:36,914 --> 01:03:38,448
I stopped receiving money
from them.
1483
01:03:38,482 --> 01:03:39,716
The joysticks that I endorsed,
1484
01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:42,786
they only came out
with three or four joysticks.
1485
01:03:42,819 --> 01:03:44,754
You know, I had to improvise.
1486
01:03:44,788 --> 01:03:47,357
I had to do other work besides
playing video games.
1487
01:03:47,391 --> 01:03:48,558
It was fun while it lasted.
1488
01:03:48,592 --> 01:03:50,460
Game, reality,
two different things.
1489
01:03:50,494 --> 01:03:52,762
My wife was having people
live in my house.
1490
01:03:52,796 --> 01:03:54,198
She had 15 different people.
1491
01:03:54,231 --> 01:03:56,666
I'm not paying a mortgage
for people to live in my house.
1492
01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:58,879
The car that I had was a Neon,
which was a real piece of shit,
1493
01:03:58,903 --> 01:04:00,070
'cause I got laid off.
1494
01:04:00,104 --> 01:04:01,814
And six months later on,
I was in an auto wreck.
1495
01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,140
Broke my clavicle.
1496
01:04:03,173 --> 01:04:04,384
And I was spitting out my teeth.
1497
01:04:04,408 --> 01:04:05,976
"Oh, it's raining,
but it's red."
1498
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:07,677
Flatlined for 28 seconds.
1499
01:04:07,711 --> 01:04:09,213
Shock paddled me back to life.
1500
01:04:09,246 --> 01:04:10,290
You know, I lost my brother.
1501
01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:11,281
He drowned.
1502
01:04:11,315 --> 01:04:12,282
After our house burnt,
1503
01:04:12,316 --> 01:04:13,593
my dog got ran over
by a squad car.
1504
01:04:13,617 --> 01:04:14,584
Lost a wife.
1505
01:04:14,618 --> 01:04:15,585
She overdosed.
1506
01:04:15,619 --> 01:04:16,753
Holy Christmas.
1507
01:04:16,786 --> 01:04:18,598
I feel like one of those
country western songs.
1508
01:04:18,622 --> 01:04:19,589
Just don't play it back.
1509
01:04:19,623 --> 01:04:20,590
I don't need it, you know?
1510
01:04:20,624 --> 01:04:21,858
It's done.
1511
01:04:21,892 --> 01:04:23,827
And my late wife knew nothing
of my video past.
1512
01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,930
I just told them
absolutely zilch.
1513
01:04:25,963 --> 01:04:27,173
I didn't think it was important,
1514
01:04:27,197 --> 01:04:28,999
because I was in
an abusive relationship.
1515
01:04:29,033 --> 01:04:30,300
I mean, she'd get drunk.
1516
01:04:30,334 --> 01:04:31,701
You know,
they love you one minute,
1517
01:04:31,735 --> 01:04:32,812
"get the fuck out," the next.
1518
01:04:32,836 --> 01:04:34,414
Who the hell wants to hear
shit like that?
1519
01:04:34,438 --> 01:04:36,606
So I figured, "anything
that's important to me",
1520
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,985
"anything that makes me happy,
she's not gonna know about it,
1521
01:04:39,009 --> 01:04:40,887
"because she'll use it against
me and throw it out,
1522
01:04:40,911 --> 01:04:41,988
burn it, sell it, whatever."
1523
01:04:42,012 --> 01:04:43,013
Then after she died,
1524
01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:44,581
I have no more leash
over my head.
1525
01:04:44,614 --> 01:04:47,284
I don't have to explain myself
to anyone.
1526
01:04:47,317 --> 01:04:50,220
If myself is unwinding
and playing video games,
1527
01:04:50,254 --> 01:04:52,156
playing with spiders,
or looking at spiders,
1528
01:04:52,189 --> 01:04:54,691
feeding the spiders,
then that's me, you know.
1529
01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:58,462
It's something to get your mind
off of what's wrong,
1530
01:04:58,495 --> 01:05:00,697
because you know
once the game is done,
1531
01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:02,299
you have to go back
to the sad reality
1532
01:05:02,332 --> 01:05:03,800
of what your life
is at that point
1533
01:05:03,833 --> 01:05:05,202
if it's bad or good.
1534
01:05:05,235 --> 01:05:07,972
Oh, this is my room, and this is
where I sleep on the floor.
1535
01:05:08,005 --> 01:05:09,549
I usually have my blankets
arranged here
1536
01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,675
so I'm in the middle
so I don't bump into anything.
1537
01:05:11,708 --> 01:05:13,353
As you can tell,
I have quite a bit of fans,
1538
01:05:13,377 --> 01:05:14,687
'cause I like air
being blown on me
1539
01:05:14,711 --> 01:05:16,246
when I'm sleeping
to be comfortable.
1540
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,350
I think video games has offered
me the opportunity to shine out
1541
01:05:20,384 --> 01:05:24,921
amongst other people and say,
"hey, I have a niche in life."
1542
01:05:24,955 --> 01:05:28,592
It's actually brought me
out of being a nobody.
1543
01:05:28,625 --> 01:05:30,160
You know,
you'd ask the general public,
1544
01:05:30,194 --> 01:05:32,829
they probably wouldn't know me
from shit from Shinola,
1545
01:05:32,862 --> 01:05:35,799
but in the video gaming world,
I'm somebody.
1546
01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:43,772
Oh, my gosh.
1547
01:05:45,342 --> 01:05:46,776
I'm twice the size I used to be.
1548
01:05:46,810 --> 01:05:48,045
This is unreal.
1549
01:05:48,078 --> 01:05:49,046
RKB.
1550
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:50,914
I thought I recognized
your voice.
1551
01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:52,082
Sit down.
1552
01:05:52,116 --> 01:05:53,994
I was just headed uptown
to do some errands here.
1553
01:05:54,018 --> 01:05:57,021
But you're welcome to stay
a while.
1554
01:05:57,054 --> 01:05:59,089
What have you been doing
with yourself?
1555
01:05:59,123 --> 01:06:01,358
Well, gained a little weight.
1556
01:06:01,391 --> 01:06:03,027
Yeah, well, me too.
1557
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:05,795
I don't usually keep grudges
or anything.
1558
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:08,032
Life took us
in different directions.
1559
01:06:08,065 --> 01:06:12,536
When I met Ron Bailey in that
video game arcade that day
1560
01:06:12,569 --> 01:06:14,838
and he showed interest
in what I was doing,
1561
01:06:14,871 --> 01:06:16,340
I felt important again.
1562
01:06:16,373 --> 01:06:19,909
You know, how important
in the overall picture of life
1563
01:06:19,943 --> 01:06:21,945
is him learning how
to play Berzerk
1564
01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,914
versus the guidance he gave me
that, you know,
1565
01:06:24,948 --> 01:06:27,184
helped me make better decisions?
1566
01:06:27,217 --> 01:06:28,852
Well, probably not much,
1567
01:06:28,885 --> 01:06:30,820
but it's what he wanted
at the time.
1568
01:06:30,854 --> 01:06:33,790
Now, this guy in Florida who...
1569
01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:34,958
Don't get me started.
1570
01:06:34,991 --> 01:06:36,126
Who took the record,
1571
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,695
well, I've issued
a challenge to him
1572
01:06:38,728 --> 01:06:40,297
that he needs to play one of us,
1573
01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:42,766
because what I have said
is simply this,
1574
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:45,702
that the man,
if you could call him that
1575
01:06:45,735 --> 01:06:46,903
because of what he did,
1576
01:06:46,936 --> 01:06:48,772
the man broke the spirit
of the game.
1577
01:06:50,174 --> 01:06:51,675
Chris has a strategy he uses
1578
01:06:51,708 --> 01:06:56,012
which is known as
the box pattern.
1579
01:06:56,046 --> 01:06:57,347
It loops around so you can go
1580
01:06:57,381 --> 01:07:00,450
from grid one, two, three,
and four and back again.
1581
01:07:00,484 --> 01:07:03,420
The robots will always be
in the same starting positions.
1582
01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:05,822
We respected the game enough
not to do that,
1583
01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:10,227
because we felt that that was
not in the spirit of the game.
1584
01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:12,396
I think maybe he was
a little bit shocked that...
1585
01:07:12,429 --> 01:07:13,863
Not that his score got beaten,
1586
01:07:13,897 --> 01:07:17,601
but that it got beaten by such
a tremendous amount, double.
1587
01:07:17,634 --> 01:07:19,269
He has the top score on paper,
1588
01:07:19,303 --> 01:07:21,047
but he's not a better Berzerk
player than I am.
1589
01:07:21,071 --> 01:07:23,240
So you're gonna see
it's the same four boards
1590
01:07:23,273 --> 01:07:24,341
over and over again.
1591
01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:25,509
That is not a Berzerk player.
1592
01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:26,943
That's a monkey.
1593
01:07:26,976 --> 01:07:31,981
You can teach a monkey how to
play a certain number of rooms.
1594
01:07:32,015 --> 01:07:36,786
But you cannot teach a man how
to play Berzerk.
1595
01:07:42,025 --> 01:07:42,992
Ready for me to plug it in?
1596
01:07:43,026 --> 01:07:43,993
Yeah.
1597
01:07:44,027 --> 01:07:48,031
All right.
1598
01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:49,399
All right, there we go.
1599
01:07:49,433 --> 01:07:50,734
Look out.
1600
01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:52,136
Whoa, look out.
1601
01:07:52,169 --> 01:07:53,603
It's trying to cycle.
1602
01:07:53,637 --> 01:07:55,004
It is?
1603
01:07:55,038 --> 01:07:57,607
Mm-hmm.
1604
01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:03,180
My finger's getting sore.
1605
01:08:04,714 --> 01:08:06,015
Well, we're gonna see right here
1606
01:08:06,049 --> 01:08:09,586
if we have a vision
of high scores.
1607
01:08:10,587 --> 01:08:12,789
Well, don't expect me...
1608
01:08:12,822 --> 01:08:15,024
The fact of the matter
is that, you know,
1609
01:08:15,058 --> 01:08:16,502
if they dropped a bomb
here right now,
1610
01:08:16,526 --> 01:08:18,671
the two best Berzerk players
in the world would be gone.
1611
01:08:18,695 --> 01:08:21,064
That's true.
1612
01:08:24,801 --> 01:08:26,936
I don't necessarily like to talk
about this,
1613
01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:28,438
'cause it makes me really sad.
1614
01:08:28,472 --> 01:08:30,039
And Moon Patrol
was the first game that,
1615
01:08:30,073 --> 01:08:32,409
like, you could put a quarter
in and continue your game.
1616
01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:35,078
You could continue on
at the level you just left.
1617
01:08:35,111 --> 01:08:37,747
And that was an incentive
to keep on playing that game.
1618
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,816
He who has a machine
that can get
1619
01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:41,551
more people sticking
quarters in,
1620
01:08:41,585 --> 01:08:43,753
those are the ones
that are gonna make money.
1621
01:08:43,787 --> 01:08:45,589
I felt like it was
kind of cheating
1622
01:08:45,622 --> 01:08:46,832
when you put another quarter in,
1623
01:08:46,856 --> 01:08:48,401
because, really, the whole
concept to me
1624
01:08:48,425 --> 01:08:49,626
of playing these early games
1625
01:08:49,659 --> 01:08:51,828
was to see how far you could go
on one credit.
1626
01:08:51,861 --> 01:08:54,106
So that's how a lot of the kids
were setting the high scores.
1627
01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,565
They just keep throwing
quarters in.
1628
01:08:55,599 --> 01:08:57,567
That to me is like,
the richest person,
1629
01:08:57,601 --> 01:08:58,802
the one with the most quarters
1630
01:08:58,835 --> 01:09:00,537
is going to get
the highest score.
1631
01:09:00,570 --> 01:09:02,948
Somebody tells me today they got
a high score on a game, I say,
1632
01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:04,474
"yeah, how much
did it cost you?"
1633
01:09:26,763 --> 01:09:30,567
Arcade video games had really
already started the decline.
1634
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,512
I mean, you could already tell
that it was waning,
1635
01:09:32,536 --> 01:09:35,138
because fewer and fewer people
were going to the arcade.
1636
01:09:35,171 --> 01:09:38,542
'Cause the games in the arcades
started to suck.
1637
01:09:38,575 --> 01:09:40,577
The games that were there
were not the games
1638
01:09:40,610 --> 01:09:41,678
I wanted to play anymore.
1639
01:09:41,711 --> 01:09:42,879
Graphics were nice,
1640
01:09:42,912 --> 01:09:44,548
but the game play itself?
1641
01:09:44,581 --> 01:09:46,250
It's pretty hard
to control here.
1642
01:09:46,283 --> 01:09:48,752
They started, in my opinion,
losing their creativity
1643
01:09:48,785 --> 01:09:51,655
on creating truly new ideas.
1644
01:09:51,688 --> 01:09:53,790
Like when Street Fighter games
1645
01:09:53,823 --> 01:09:57,193
where suddenly you've got these
lizard head lions
1646
01:09:57,227 --> 01:09:59,028
with fangs, you know, going...
1647
01:09:59,062 --> 01:10:01,731
One guy facing the other guy
in profile
1648
01:10:01,765 --> 01:10:04,033
and just going at it.
1649
01:10:04,067 --> 01:10:07,170
You know, who wants to see
an Egyptian lion's head
1650
01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,473
go against a ghost or something?
1651
01:10:09,506 --> 01:10:11,007
You're, like, going,
1652
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,376
"this is stupid."
1653
01:10:12,409 --> 01:10:14,043
I think some of the older gamers
1654
01:10:14,077 --> 01:10:15,645
are still stuck back
in the '80s.
1655
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:18,014
With those games instantly
came a different crowd.
1656
01:10:18,047 --> 01:10:20,350
I don't think you understand.
1657
01:10:20,384 --> 01:10:22,319
It's my turn.
1658
01:10:22,352 --> 01:10:25,121
Some gang members,
punk people that were coming in,
1659
01:10:25,154 --> 01:10:27,123
and they were causing trouble
in the arcades,
1660
01:10:27,156 --> 01:10:28,692
and we didn't want to be there.
1661
01:10:28,725 --> 01:10:30,327
So we just stopped going.
1662
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,697
Which of these games is the
closest thing to the real thing?
1663
01:10:33,730 --> 01:10:36,566
"A," Intellivision
Major League Baseball,
1664
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,068
"B," Atari Baseball?
1665
01:10:39,102 --> 01:10:42,205
A lot of the uniqueness stopped
appearing in arcades
1666
01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:43,740
and started appearing at home.
1667
01:10:43,773 --> 01:10:45,041
We have the Pong here,
1668
01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:47,210
which is one of the earlier
systems that I have.
1669
01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:48,545
We have a Colecovision,
1670
01:10:48,578 --> 01:10:50,814
an Atari 800,
one of my first computers,
1671
01:10:50,847 --> 01:10:52,716
a Odyssey,
1672
01:10:52,749 --> 01:10:54,050
an Atari 5200,
1673
01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:55,151
an Intellivision.
1674
01:10:55,184 --> 01:10:56,486
I have a couple
handheld systems.
1675
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,487
The Bentley system,
1676
01:10:57,521 --> 01:10:58,755
the Rally 4,
1677
01:10:58,788 --> 01:11:00,023
Atari 2600,
1678
01:11:00,056 --> 01:11:01,558
everything a home could want.
1679
01:11:01,591 --> 01:11:04,227
When Nintendo came out,
that was a huge thing.
1680
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:05,829
When computers became more
advanced,
1681
01:11:05,862 --> 01:11:07,931
you could start playing games
on computers.
1682
01:11:07,964 --> 01:11:10,099
Who the hell's gonna want to go
to an arcade
1683
01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:13,069
when you can stay at home,
sit on a chair,
1684
01:11:13,102 --> 01:11:15,014
get a drink, go to
the bathroom whenever you want?
1685
01:11:15,038 --> 01:11:17,407
Just another example
of how technology
1686
01:11:17,441 --> 01:11:18,775
has sort of made us lazy.
1687
01:11:18,808 --> 01:11:20,544
To me that was the beginning
of the end
1688
01:11:20,577 --> 01:11:23,012
of what I call
the classic gaming era.
1689
01:11:25,782 --> 01:11:27,784
In today's world,
things get so popular
1690
01:11:27,817 --> 01:11:29,252
and then so unpopular.
1691
01:11:29,285 --> 01:11:31,054
You know,
you've got maybe a year or so.
1692
01:11:31,087 --> 01:11:32,489
I mean, it was just a fad,
1693
01:11:32,522 --> 01:11:35,525
and it didn't really
last that long.
1694
01:11:37,861 --> 01:11:40,964
For whatever reason,
the arcade as the place to go
1695
01:11:40,997 --> 01:11:42,265
just wasn't true anymore.
1696
01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:43,467
It is kind of sad.
1697
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:45,301
I didn't see it lasting forever,
1698
01:11:45,335 --> 01:11:47,771
but I didn't think it was gonna
crash the way it did.
1699
01:11:47,804 --> 01:11:49,444
It was almost like
the stock market crash,
1700
01:11:49,473 --> 01:11:52,809
everything at once just gone.
1701
01:12:39,456 --> 01:12:41,391
I'm posing for the cover
of my album,
1702
01:12:41,425 --> 01:12:43,893
Walter Day in a mellow mood.
1703
01:12:43,927 --> 01:12:46,996
I'd like to be on the stage
doing the whole thing,
1704
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:52,268
maybe a half a dozen
show dates a year, you know.
1705
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:30,106
I want to retire, because I want
to do things that are now,
1706
01:13:30,139 --> 01:13:32,676
at this point in my life,
more valuable to me.
1707
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:34,386
'Cause the video game thing
is a fun thing,
1708
01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:35,979
and it's an adventure.
1709
01:13:36,012 --> 01:13:38,582
But it's not the thing that's
most important to my heart.
1710
01:13:42,786 --> 01:13:45,955
I have no excuses
after that book's out
1711
01:13:45,989 --> 01:13:47,624
to stay in here any longer.
1712
01:13:47,657 --> 01:13:49,258
I will definitely be moving on.
1713
01:14:01,337 --> 01:14:02,872
Wow.
1714
01:14:02,906 --> 01:14:05,074
How can we improve
on this thing?
1715
01:14:09,946 --> 01:14:11,815
That's how I remember Walter.
1716
01:14:11,848 --> 01:14:14,584
It's kind of funny to think that
Walter is probably, what,
1717
01:14:14,618 --> 01:14:15,885
in his 30s at that point?
1718
01:14:15,919 --> 01:14:20,524
So today I'm as old as he was
in that point.
1719
01:14:20,557 --> 01:14:24,027
Can you bring the wires
so that that thing...
1720
01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:26,663
Closer.
1721
01:14:26,696 --> 01:14:29,799
Yeah, he's looking pretty good.
1722
01:14:34,337 --> 01:14:36,339
Oh, man.
1723
01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:41,244
Cover your mouth
when you yawn, you dork.
1724
01:14:41,277 --> 01:14:42,646
I hope... there's Kent!
1725
01:14:42,679 --> 01:14:44,480
Holy smokes.
1726
01:14:47,651 --> 01:14:49,753
Two or three of us
went to Ottumwa, Iowa,
1727
01:14:49,786 --> 01:14:50,787
to be with Walter.
1728
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:53,489
And I remember waking up
one morning
1729
01:14:53,523 --> 01:14:56,459
and having an event
that still to this day
1730
01:14:56,492 --> 01:15:00,997
I consider to be sort of maybe...
1731
01:15:01,030 --> 01:15:03,567
If not the pivotal moment,
maybe a...
1732
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,836
Definitely a pivotal moment
in my spiritual life.
1733
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:09,038
I woke up about 6:00
in the morning
1734
01:15:09,072 --> 01:15:11,207
in this filthy attic
1735
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,610
of Walter Day's
above the arcade,
1736
01:15:13,643 --> 01:15:20,316
and I can't really
put it into words very well.
1737
01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,018
But it was like I felt
1738
01:15:22,051 --> 01:15:24,253
the presence of God
in that room.
1739
01:15:29,626 --> 01:15:33,362
And the message that I got
from the Lord was,
1740
01:15:33,396 --> 01:15:34,598
"you're wasting your life.
1741
01:15:34,631 --> 01:15:37,466
"You are headed nowhere.
1742
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:39,936
"You need to go home
and settle down
1743
01:15:39,969 --> 01:15:43,139
"and go back to school
and go to a Christian school
1744
01:15:43,172 --> 01:15:45,208
and do something
with your life."
1745
01:15:45,241 --> 01:15:47,711
And that's what I did.
1746
01:15:47,744 --> 01:15:49,512
The video game player
became someone
1747
01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:51,314
who needed to find a paycheck.
1748
01:15:51,347 --> 01:15:54,751
I stopped playing, I would say,
about 1983.
1749
01:15:54,784 --> 01:15:56,653
I moved to Reno.
1750
01:15:56,686 --> 01:15:58,321
Todd perhaps, you know,
1751
01:15:58,354 --> 01:15:59,856
earlier than anybody else
in our group
1752
01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:02,491
decided to pursue real life.
1753
01:16:02,525 --> 01:16:03,492
He had a real job.
1754
01:16:03,526 --> 01:16:04,828
He was a plumber.
1755
01:16:04,861 --> 01:16:06,672
So I don't know if you remember
the game Bubbles.
1756
01:16:06,696 --> 01:16:08,336
So we all picked on him,
saying, you know,
1757
01:16:08,364 --> 01:16:09,733
he's playing Bubbles
for a living.
1758
01:16:10,834 --> 01:16:13,202
I began really
a massive withdrawal,
1759
01:16:13,236 --> 01:16:15,471
and in '85 I was out.
1760
01:16:15,504 --> 01:16:16,682
They took the bull by the horns
1761
01:16:16,706 --> 01:16:18,241
and actually
accomplished something.
1762
01:16:18,274 --> 01:16:20,076
Most of them
seem to have nice jobs
1763
01:16:20,109 --> 01:16:21,577
and nice lives and nice homes.
1764
01:16:21,611 --> 01:16:23,146
I went into the military,
1765
01:16:23,179 --> 01:16:25,749
had a whole new set of problems
to play with there.
1766
01:16:25,782 --> 01:16:27,283
I got a job traveling.
1767
01:16:27,316 --> 01:16:29,753
I've been in organized baseball
now 54 years.
1768
01:16:29,786 --> 01:16:31,220
I buy computers.
1769
01:16:31,254 --> 01:16:33,222
I'm a senior
technical specialist.
1770
01:16:33,256 --> 01:16:35,659
I've been a partier off and on
1771
01:16:35,692 --> 01:16:37,426
through different stages
of my life.
1772
01:16:37,460 --> 01:16:41,030
I can't really devote too much
time to doing an everyday job,
1773
01:16:41,064 --> 01:16:42,666
because I take care
of my parents.
1774
01:16:42,699 --> 01:16:45,034
A sales rep
for a payroll company.
1775
01:16:45,068 --> 01:16:47,170
Quality assurance manager
for a company
1776
01:16:47,203 --> 01:16:49,338
that manufactures satellite
communication equipment.
1777
01:16:49,372 --> 01:16:52,375
We were the first ones in our
area to serve chicken wings.
1778
01:16:52,408 --> 01:16:54,377
So that's what I am;
I'm a trial lawyer.
1779
01:16:54,410 --> 01:16:57,280
I'm not like a pimp or anything,
but, I mean, I just...
1780
01:16:57,313 --> 01:16:58,414
I have a lot of friends,
1781
01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:01,184
and they happen to be
good-looking.
1782
01:17:01,217 --> 01:17:02,728
And that journey ended
when I found out
1783
01:17:02,752 --> 01:17:03,887
I was going to be a father.
1784
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,122
And that was the end
of almost completely
1785
01:17:06,155 --> 01:17:07,523
of playing video games.
1786
01:17:07,556 --> 01:17:11,895
I went to Romania, met my wife,
and came back with two kids.
1787
01:17:13,196 --> 01:17:16,700
All right, let's pray.
1788
01:17:16,733 --> 01:17:18,902
Heavenly father, we thank you
for this day,
1789
01:17:18,935 --> 01:17:20,336
and we thank you for our family,
1790
01:17:20,369 --> 01:17:22,147
for the many blessings
that you have given us.
1791
01:17:22,171 --> 01:17:23,306
Our youngest baby, Elijah,
1792
01:17:23,339 --> 01:17:24,273
who just turned a year old
1793
01:17:24,307 --> 01:17:26,342
and is very fussy.
1794
01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:28,978
This is our oldest boy, Isaiah,
1795
01:17:29,012 --> 01:17:29,979
and Zachariah.
1796
01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:31,480
Isaiah is 12.
1797
01:17:31,514 --> 01:17:32,982
Zachariah is ten.
1798
01:17:33,016 --> 01:17:33,983
And I'm five.
1799
01:17:34,017 --> 01:17:35,719
And Josiah is five.
1800
01:17:38,554 --> 01:17:39,723
Are you helping daddy?
1801
01:17:39,756 --> 01:17:42,458
We've been talking about trying
for a girl.
1802
01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:43,927
We've talked about adopting.
1803
01:17:44,961 --> 01:17:46,529
You think that's funny?
1804
01:17:46,562 --> 01:17:48,965
Trying to figure out
why your child is screaming
1805
01:17:48,998 --> 01:17:51,034
is pretty good
problem solving exercise.
1806
01:17:51,067 --> 01:17:52,535
Melt down, melt down.
1807
01:17:52,568 --> 01:17:55,705
I really didn't slow down
extracurricular activities
1808
01:17:55,739 --> 01:17:57,140
a lot until my kids came.
1809
01:17:57,173 --> 01:18:00,576
And then my whole life kind of
revolves around what my kids do.
1810
01:18:00,609 --> 01:18:02,611
I do have a son.
1811
01:18:02,645 --> 01:18:05,681
It was out of
the only one-night stand
1812
01:18:05,715 --> 01:18:08,985
I've ever had in my life.
1813
01:18:09,018 --> 01:18:12,455
It's a story I really don't want
to go into, but...
1814
01:18:12,488 --> 01:18:16,793
I always wanted to do something
absolutely unequivocal.
1815
01:18:16,826 --> 01:18:20,797
But tremendous responsibilities
keep pulling at me.
1816
01:18:20,830 --> 01:18:23,800
He's the Pac-man champion.
1817
01:18:23,833 --> 01:18:27,236
And he's beaten the whole level
a couple of times,
1818
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:29,705
or maybe more than
a couple of times.
1819
01:18:29,739 --> 01:18:33,276
Maybe a thousand or maybe 2,000.
1820
01:18:33,309 --> 01:18:34,577
Maybe google.
1821
01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:36,679
That's the highest.
1822
01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:38,614
Billy, numbers never stop.
1823
01:18:38,647 --> 01:18:40,249
Do they?
1824
01:18:40,283 --> 01:18:41,450
Besar.
1825
01:18:41,484 --> 01:18:42,786
Besar.
1826
01:18:42,819 --> 01:18:46,455
To kiss.
1827
01:18:46,489 --> 01:18:48,324
Bajar.
1828
01:18:48,357 --> 01:18:49,458
Bajar.
1829
01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:51,460
To go down.
1830
01:18:51,494 --> 01:18:53,462
Oh, that's my girlfriend
right there.
1831
01:18:53,496 --> 01:18:54,864
She lives in Mexico City.
1832
01:18:54,898 --> 01:18:56,538
She hasn't been as quick
learning English,
1833
01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:57,743
so I'm trying to learn Spanish.
1834
01:18:57,767 --> 01:18:59,402
So we have to learn
to communicate.
1835
01:18:59,435 --> 01:19:00,870
Desvestir.
1836
01:19:00,904 --> 01:19:02,638
Desvestir.
1837
01:19:02,671 --> 01:19:04,440
To undress.
1838
01:19:04,473 --> 01:19:07,610
I live at home with my parents.
1839
01:19:07,643 --> 01:19:09,478
Other than my cat, it's just us.
1840
01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:12,648
I've got two cats currently.
1841
01:19:12,681 --> 01:19:14,951
Their names are Impy and Sparks.
1842
01:19:14,984 --> 01:19:16,528
I've always preferred the sound
of a purr
1843
01:19:16,552 --> 01:19:17,854
to the sound of a bark.
1844
01:19:17,887 --> 01:19:18,955
And I have a fiancee now.
1845
01:19:18,988 --> 01:19:20,223
So on a personal level,
1846
01:19:20,256 --> 01:19:22,491
my goal is to actually spend
the rest of my life
1847
01:19:22,525 --> 01:19:23,726
with someone I love.
1848
01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:25,361
It turns out she's not
a game player,
1849
01:19:25,394 --> 01:19:26,629
which is kind of interesting.
1850
01:19:26,662 --> 01:19:28,774
I never thought I would,
you know, meet and fall in love
1851
01:19:28,798 --> 01:19:31,000
with someone who did not play
or enjoy video games.
1852
01:19:32,035 --> 01:19:33,336
That's the lady frog.
1853
01:19:33,369 --> 01:19:35,338
500 bonus points
if you bring her home.
1854
01:19:35,371 --> 01:19:37,673
There are a handful of video
game players
1855
01:19:37,706 --> 01:19:41,077
that have made more money
and achieved more success
1856
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:44,080
and more notoriety
than Walter ever has.
1857
01:19:44,113 --> 01:19:48,051
I see that really as sort of
a cruel irony.
1858
01:19:48,084 --> 01:19:50,353
Sometimes I guess
that happens to people
1859
01:19:50,386 --> 01:19:53,756
that they get
their father-like energies
1860
01:19:53,789 --> 01:19:56,025
directed in a different kind of
way than normally,
1861
01:19:56,059 --> 01:19:57,026
having their children.
1862
01:19:57,060 --> 01:19:58,661
I've been very aware of the fact
1863
01:19:58,694 --> 01:20:01,965
that I've been babysitting
other people's kids for years
1864
01:20:01,998 --> 01:20:04,700
and that a lot of them
might have even been my children
1865
01:20:04,733 --> 01:20:08,071
in a sense, you know, because of
that same kind of relationship
1866
01:20:08,104 --> 01:20:11,875
where I've had a...
1867
01:20:11,908 --> 01:20:14,110
I've just had people
under my wing.
1868
01:20:52,916 --> 01:20:55,484
They probably did impact
each others' lives,
1869
01:20:55,518 --> 01:20:57,453
because it was all
a common thing they all had.
1870
01:20:57,486 --> 01:20:59,155
They only had video games
in common.
1871
01:20:59,188 --> 01:21:01,657
By finding that one thread
they had in common,
1872
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,327
to see where that commonality
could take them
1873
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,162
down such different avenues,
1874
01:21:06,195 --> 01:21:09,198
everybody was launched
on a voyage by Twin Galaxies.
1875
01:21:09,232 --> 01:21:10,934
Who would have guessed
at the beginning
1876
01:21:10,967 --> 01:21:12,868
where that voyage
was gonna lead them?
1877
01:21:42,966 --> 01:21:45,101
Everything that we do
is an experience,
1878
01:21:45,134 --> 01:21:48,204
because that was truly
the golden age of video games,
1879
01:21:48,237 --> 01:21:49,838
and we were pioneers.
1880
01:21:49,872 --> 01:21:51,540
I wouldn't trade that
for anything.
1881
01:21:51,574 --> 01:21:55,744
If getting old has to be
being serious, being a grump,
1882
01:21:55,778 --> 01:21:58,647
I don't want to become
that more serious grumpy person.
1883
01:21:58,681 --> 01:21:59,949
I want to be myself.
1884
01:21:59,983 --> 01:22:02,986
And if myself is unwinding
and playing video games,
1885
01:22:03,019 --> 01:22:04,520
then that's me, you know.
1886
01:22:04,553 --> 01:22:06,189
I enjoy that.
1887
01:22:06,222 --> 01:22:07,723
Like, if I really look back,
1888
01:22:07,756 --> 01:22:09,692
I think video games
really helped me.
1889
01:22:09,725 --> 01:22:12,128
I know how to win,
and I want to win.
1890
01:22:12,161 --> 01:22:14,830
You know, I wanted to succeed
in life.
1891
01:22:14,863 --> 01:22:16,532
I'm gonna keep playing
and playing
1892
01:22:16,565 --> 01:22:21,470
until I have at least
ten or more world records.
1893
01:22:21,504 --> 01:22:23,706
Joel, you have changed.
1894
01:22:23,739 --> 01:22:24,739
I have changed.
1895
01:22:25,841 --> 01:22:27,521
I went into the witness
protection program.
1896
01:22:28,978 --> 01:22:32,715
You know, each experience,
each day in a person's life
1897
01:22:32,748 --> 01:22:34,883
is something they'll never
relive again.
1898
01:22:34,917 --> 01:22:36,552
It's like the pages
of a fine book.
1899
01:22:36,585 --> 01:22:39,088
If you remember it,
even though it's, you know,
1900
01:22:39,122 --> 01:22:41,657
much later in time,
it is important to you,
1901
01:22:41,690 --> 01:22:43,559
the memory part.
1902
01:22:43,592 --> 01:22:45,995
As I look back on it,
it was a lot of fun
1903
01:22:46,029 --> 01:22:48,998
to have all the fame
and notoriety and so on.
1904
01:22:49,032 --> 01:22:52,168
But the only thing that has
really stayed with me
1905
01:22:52,201 --> 01:22:54,003
for 23 years is the friendship
1906
01:22:54,037 --> 01:22:55,338
that I've got
with Bill Mitchell.
1907
01:22:55,371 --> 01:22:56,505
And I treasure that.
1908
01:22:56,539 --> 01:22:57,806
Holy hair, Batman.
1909
01:22:58,841 --> 01:23:00,343
Is that little Benny?
1910
01:23:00,376 --> 01:23:04,147
Hey, just because I'm follicly
challenged does not mean...
1911
01:23:04,180 --> 01:23:07,250
The game of Berzerk
is like life.
1912
01:23:07,283 --> 01:23:11,554
You get too confident,
you're gonna get wiped out.
1913
01:23:11,587 --> 01:23:13,856
And in point of fact,
you die at the end.
1914
01:23:15,024 --> 01:23:17,060
And that's the great finality
of it.
1915
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:19,895
After your five lives are over,
game over.
1916
01:23:19,928 --> 01:23:21,097
Game over.
1917
01:26:05,194 --> 01:26:08,197
Well, I talked to a few people
about the name of the movie,
1918
01:26:08,231 --> 01:26:09,365
Chasing Ghosts,
1919
01:26:09,398 --> 01:26:12,000
and I talked to my wife
and a few other folks,
1920
01:26:12,034 --> 01:26:14,403
and they said,
"sounds like a horror movie."
1921
01:26:14,437 --> 01:26:19,508
If I had a vote or an opinion
to put in,
1922
01:26:19,542 --> 01:26:22,911
I would just say that,
search for something else.
1923
01:26:22,945 --> 01:26:26,349
I began racking my brain as to
what would be a good suggestion.
1924
01:26:26,382 --> 01:26:31,287
So I envisioned an arcade
and a kid walking by a machine,
1925
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,956
and it scanned him,
and then it said,
1926
01:26:33,989 --> 01:26:35,358
"coin detected in pocket,"
1927
01:26:35,391 --> 01:26:36,725
and he walked over
and played it.
1928
01:26:36,759 --> 01:26:38,961
That's essentially
how I got started with Berzerk.
1929
01:26:38,994 --> 01:26:42,097
So I suggested the name
"Coins Detected in Pocket."
1930
01:26:42,130 --> 01:26:43,866
Everyone that I've talked to,
1931
01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:45,801
they really think that it's
a more fitting name
1932
01:26:45,834 --> 01:26:46,834
for the project.
1933
01:26:56,645 --> 01:27:00,716
Coins Detected in Pocket.
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