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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,038 --> 00:00:06,306 Friday, February 13th 2 00:00:06,406 --> 00:00:09,142 started out, for me, like any other day. 3 00:00:10,377 --> 00:00:12,779 I got up, it was kind of drizzling outside, 4 00:00:12,879 --> 00:00:14,647 about 6:37. 5 00:00:17,283 --> 00:00:19,719 I Went into my daughter, Amber's room 6 00:00:19,819 --> 00:00:21,688 and I told her that I would try to get off work early 7 00:00:21,788 --> 00:00:23,189 and we could go see a movie. 8 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:26,059 And she said, "OK." Told her I loved her, 9 00:00:26,159 --> 00:00:28,261 and told me she loved me back. 10 00:00:30,397 --> 00:00:35,335 I never worried about... Amber walking to school. 11 00:00:38,671 --> 00:00:40,440 It as never an issue. 12 00:00:42,175 --> 00:00:43,810 But, as it turns out, 13 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:45,445 that was the day that my daughter walked 14 00:00:45,545 --> 00:00:47,113 to school and never came home. 15 00:01:23,516 --> 00:01:25,985 My daughter, Amber, was 14 years old. 16 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:29,489 Her favorite subject in school was agriculture. 17 00:01:29,589 --> 00:01:31,558 She told me about this program that they had 18 00:01:31,658 --> 00:01:33,193 at Escondido High School. 19 00:01:33,293 --> 00:01:34,627 She was going to raise a lamb. 20 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:39,866 And that morning was the day that her check was due 21 00:01:39,966 --> 00:01:41,067 for her lamb. 22 00:01:42,669 --> 00:01:45,438 Amber was ecstatic about this day. 23 00:01:46,973 --> 00:01:48,408 But, at 4:30 pm, 24 00:01:50,009 --> 00:01:52,212 my boyfriend, Dave, called me and said that there was 25 00:01:52,312 --> 00:01:54,414 a message from her friend, Jade, saying, 26 00:01:54,514 --> 00:01:55,982 "Hey, Amber, where are you? 27 00:01:56,082 --> 00:01:57,817 "I thought we were going to meet up at break. 28 00:01:57,917 --> 00:01:59,586 I'm looking everywhere for you." 29 00:02:01,054 --> 00:02:02,522 And then there was a message from the high school 30 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:05,325 that Amber wasn't at school that day. 31 00:02:12,632 --> 00:02:14,968 Dave was like a stepfather to Amber. 32 00:02:15,068 --> 00:02:17,036 So he said, "I'll go ahead and go over there 33 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,506 and look for her." 34 00:02:19,606 --> 00:02:22,142 And then I drove over to the high school, 35 00:02:22,242 --> 00:02:23,943 drove around looking for her, 36 00:02:24,043 --> 00:02:25,545 called some of my friends... 37 00:02:26,846 --> 00:02:28,414 and told them that Amber was gone 38 00:02:28,515 --> 00:02:29,816 and I couldn't find her anywhere. 39 00:02:32,051 --> 00:02:34,087 It's a horrible, helpless feeling. 40 00:02:38,758 --> 00:02:41,628 I Knew instantly that something had happened to her. 41 00:02:43,263 --> 00:02:44,964 She would not miss this day of school. 42 00:02:45,064 --> 00:02:46,966 She'd been waiting a year for this day of school. 43 00:02:49,602 --> 00:02:51,171 That's when the panic set in. 44 00:02:53,406 --> 00:02:54,374 The Escondido Police Department 45 00:02:54,474 --> 00:02:56,309 received a call from Dave Cave, 46 00:02:56,409 --> 00:02:57,977 Amber Dubois' stepfather. 47 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:02,615 The officer and the other officers, 48 00:03:02,715 --> 00:03:03,883 and the K-9 officer 49 00:03:03,983 --> 00:03:05,451 immediately went to the school 50 00:03:05,552 --> 00:03:08,955 and started searching for Amber Dubois. 51 00:03:09,055 --> 00:03:12,892 Escondido High School is a large campus 52 00:03:12,992 --> 00:03:16,329 located within a mile of Amber's house. 53 00:03:16,429 --> 00:03:20,333 As a parent myself, I found this very concerning. 54 00:03:20,433 --> 00:03:22,335 Children are top priority 55 00:03:22,435 --> 00:03:25,071 when it comes to them being missing 56 00:03:25,171 --> 00:03:26,706 or victims of crimes. 57 00:03:31,311 --> 00:03:34,013 Escondido is eastern part of San Diego County. 58 00:03:35,748 --> 00:03:39,519 Nestled in a valley surrounded by mountains 59 00:03:39,619 --> 00:03:42,755 on almost all sides, except for the south, 60 00:03:42,855 --> 00:03:44,624 which is bordered by Lake Hodges 61 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:46,359 and then the City of San Diego. 62 00:03:47,727 --> 00:03:52,799 In 2009, it was about 120,000 population. 63 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:56,669 Escondido was called Rancho Rincon del Diablo-- 64 00:03:58,705 --> 00:03:59,806 the Devil's Corner. 65 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:04,277 It was called the Devil's Corner 66 00:04:04,377 --> 00:04:06,613 because the missionaries back then 67 00:04:06,713 --> 00:04:09,983 did not like the fact that it wasn't held by the church. 68 00:04:11,451 --> 00:04:14,454 And also, visually, you had these foothills 69 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:17,357 that cast long shadows across the land. 70 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:21,661 I was a reporter at NBC San Diego 71 00:04:21,761 --> 00:04:23,630 when the media found out 72 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:27,100 she really was missing on Friday the 13th. 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,335 It's like an omen. 74 00:04:29,435 --> 00:04:32,472 That's the night you need to make sure you lock your doors 75 00:04:32,572 --> 00:04:35,608 and keep your children safe because... 76 00:04:35,708 --> 00:04:36,709 the devil's out there. 77 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:41,681 In this community that is so safe, 78 00:04:42,982 --> 00:04:45,351 so many families love living there, 79 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:47,320 she vanished. 80 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:48,588 And that's scary. 81 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:53,426 That sends a shockwave through an entire community. 82 00:04:53,526 --> 00:04:56,663 If you're a parent, that is the worst case scenario. 83 00:04:56,763 --> 00:04:57,864 "Where is my kid?" 84 00:04:58,998 --> 00:05:01,067 "Where's Amber? Where's Amber? 85 00:05:01,167 --> 00:05:04,203 Have you seen Amber? We have to find Amber." 86 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,109 When we have these kinds of cases-- 87 00:05:10,209 --> 00:05:11,611 missing teens-- 88 00:05:11,711 --> 00:05:14,447 typically we'll start with the person who last saw 89 00:05:14,547 --> 00:05:17,317 the missing teen and get every detail 90 00:05:17,417 --> 00:05:19,986 of what they did that day, 91 00:05:20,086 --> 00:05:23,056 anything that might be of concern. 92 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:26,526 Even the smallest detail might crack a case open. 93 00:05:28,127 --> 00:05:30,930 In this case, it was Dave Cave. 94 00:05:31,030 --> 00:05:34,300 Dave's day started with going to the gym. 95 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,938 He last saw Amber at the house at 7 in the morning. 96 00:05:39,038 --> 00:05:40,506 Well, by the time he was coming back home, 97 00:05:40,606 --> 00:05:41,708 which would be the time 98 00:05:41,808 --> 00:05:43,643 that Amber would be walking to school. 99 00:05:43,743 --> 00:05:45,244 There's only two ways to get to our house, 100 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:47,980 and he couldn't remember which way he took. 101 00:05:48,081 --> 00:05:49,615 We thought that was very unusual. 102 00:05:49,716 --> 00:05:52,285 Why wouldn't he be able to remember which way 103 00:05:52,385 --> 00:05:54,320 he drove home? 104 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:56,656 Dave came to my work that day, 105 00:05:56,756 --> 00:05:58,891 Friday, February 13th, 106 00:05:58,991 --> 00:06:01,527 and he brought me chocolate-covered strawberries 107 00:06:01,627 --> 00:06:04,364 and some other stuff for Valentine's Day. 108 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:06,866 Dave and I didn't celebrate Valentine's Day 109 00:06:06,966 --> 00:06:09,068 because that was his anniversary of his ex-wife, 110 00:06:09,168 --> 00:06:11,738 so it was kind of a sore subject. 111 00:06:11,838 --> 00:06:13,973 So for him to come to my work and bring this 112 00:06:14,073 --> 00:06:16,109 was really not normal. 113 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:18,444 And he stayed at my work for over an hour. 114 00:06:18,544 --> 00:06:20,046 I had to tell him to leave. 115 00:06:20,146 --> 00:06:21,447 From there, he went to see a movie, 116 00:06:21,547 --> 00:06:23,783 which is completely out of character for Dave. 117 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:25,718 I'm questioning everything he did because, like, 118 00:06:25,818 --> 00:06:27,220 'cause his whole day was just weird. 119 00:06:28,287 --> 00:06:31,057 So once we started to interview the family, 120 00:06:31,157 --> 00:06:34,260 we realized that there was quite a bit of friction 121 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,797 between Amber and Dave Cave, the stepfather. 122 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:42,735 A lot of that friction stemmed from her wanting to be 123 00:06:42,835 --> 00:06:46,005 in her room most of the time reading. 124 00:06:46,105 --> 00:06:47,874 Dave didn't appreciate that. 125 00:06:47,974 --> 00:06:51,043 He thought she should be more part of the family. 126 00:06:53,179 --> 00:06:56,949 We found that they had continual verbal disagreements. 127 00:06:58,251 --> 00:07:01,721 At one point, Dave took the door off of Amber's room 128 00:07:01,821 --> 00:07:04,090 so she couldn't hide in her room to read. 129 00:07:05,792 --> 00:07:08,728 One of the things that we found while interviewing Carrie 130 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:12,365 was that Dave and Amber had just called a truce, 131 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:15,568 and Dave took her to a bookstore to buy some more books. 132 00:07:17,336 --> 00:07:21,007 And less than 12 hours later, Amber went missing. 133 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:28,181 Statistics show with missing person cases, 134 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,317 it's likely that somebody close to the family 135 00:07:31,417 --> 00:07:33,653 or a family member has something to do with it. 136 00:07:34,921 --> 00:07:38,524 When we confronted Dave Cave about Amber's disappearance, 137 00:07:38,624 --> 00:07:40,793 he denied knowing anything about it 138 00:07:40,893 --> 00:07:42,862 or being responsible for it. 139 00:07:42,962 --> 00:07:46,899 He said, despite the friction and their verbal arguments, 140 00:07:46,999 --> 00:07:48,568 he would never hurt her. 141 00:07:48,668 --> 00:07:50,870 Dave was holding his innocence, 142 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:53,139 telling police he had nothing to do with it. 143 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:55,107 And then I was up in my room. 144 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:58,077 I had thought Amber was wearing a necklace that morning. 145 00:07:59,545 --> 00:08:01,581 And then all of a sudden I found the necklace 146 00:08:01,681 --> 00:08:03,349 in the headboard of my bed. 147 00:08:05,751 --> 00:08:09,188 Which completely threw me over the edge. 148 00:08:09,288 --> 00:08:10,923 And I went down to the police, 149 00:08:11,023 --> 00:08:12,024 and I was crying, freaking out. 150 00:08:12,124 --> 00:08:13,626 I asked them, "Please come to the house. 151 00:08:13,726 --> 00:08:14,760 "You don't need a search warrant. 152 00:08:14,861 --> 00:08:16,963 Just come to the house and search." 153 00:08:17,063 --> 00:08:18,464 Maybe they had an argument 154 00:08:18,564 --> 00:08:20,500 and she fell down the stairs... 155 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,634 ...or something happened. 156 00:08:21,734 --> 00:08:23,569 Carrie had actually mentioned that to us-- 157 00:08:23,669 --> 00:08:25,471 "Just arrest him." 158 00:08:25,571 --> 00:08:27,540 However, in order to arrest Dave, 159 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,743 we would need probable cause, which would include evidence. 160 00:08:33,412 --> 00:08:37,917 And so one of the things that we do have is a polygraph test. 161 00:08:38,017 --> 00:08:40,319 Dave Cave took three polygraph tests. 162 00:08:41,454 --> 00:08:42,688 He was very nervous. 163 00:08:43,656 --> 00:08:46,325 And as the polygraph test came back and we started 164 00:08:46,425 --> 00:08:48,294 to review the results, 165 00:08:48,394 --> 00:08:49,929 the polygrapher came to me 166 00:08:50,029 --> 00:08:52,932 and said that he had some concerns about Dave. 167 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:55,434 There was inconsistencies in his statement, 168 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:58,070 and his nervousness seemed unreasonable. 169 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:01,707 And we continued to focus more on Dave. 170 00:09:03,075 --> 00:09:05,945 This was the first time that I didn't feel like I knew 171 00:09:06,045 --> 00:09:08,347 the person that I decided to spend my life with. 172 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:12,084 It must have been absolutely frightening for Carrie 173 00:09:12,184 --> 00:09:14,921 to, A, have a missing child, 174 00:09:15,021 --> 00:09:17,890 but then sleep next to the person 175 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:21,193 who is considered by police, a prime suspect. 176 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:33,973 We realized how troubling it must be for Carrie 177 00:09:34,073 --> 00:09:35,708 to be under the same roof... 178 00:09:36,809 --> 00:09:38,344 with somebody that may be responsible 179 00:09:38,444 --> 00:09:40,947 for her daughter's disappearance. 180 00:09:41,047 --> 00:09:43,149 And of course, if he was capable of that, 181 00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:46,819 what else could he be capable of? 182 00:10:00,733 --> 00:10:01,934 Time is of the essence 183 00:10:02,034 --> 00:10:04,236 in all missing person cases. 184 00:10:04,337 --> 00:10:06,439 The more that this case continued, 185 00:10:08,407 --> 00:10:10,509 we realized the potential 186 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:13,713 of finding Amber Dubois alive diminished. 187 00:10:19,151 --> 00:10:22,388 I probably called Amber every 15 to 20 minutes, 188 00:10:22,488 --> 00:10:24,724 all night long, trying to get a hold of her. 189 00:10:24,824 --> 00:10:27,493 I sat up that night after I made my rounds 190 00:10:27,593 --> 00:10:29,595 through the neighborhood trying to find her. 191 00:10:29,695 --> 00:10:32,431 I was on the computer, just looking at how I could get 192 00:10:32,531 --> 00:10:34,667 search dogs or anything really. 193 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:36,702 I remember being like 3:30, 4:00 in the morning 194 00:10:36,802 --> 00:10:37,903 and I'm still on the computer 195 00:10:38,004 --> 00:10:41,107 just bawling and trying to figure out what I do next. 196 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:46,245 We set up a search center right near the house. 197 00:10:46,345 --> 00:10:48,514 The community came out a lot 198 00:10:48,614 --> 00:10:50,883 and was searching for my daughter. 199 00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:54,420 I wanted to be out there searching for her and myself. 200 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,391 And every night I would go out looking for her. 201 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:01,961 At one of these search briefings, 202 00:11:02,061 --> 00:11:06,198 Dave Cave had introduced himself to the searchers. 203 00:11:08,434 --> 00:11:12,438 Because Dave was a potential suspect in this case, 204 00:11:12,538 --> 00:11:15,074 we told him not to be one of the searchers 205 00:11:15,174 --> 00:11:17,510 because if he were to find something, 206 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:20,880 we didn't want him to contaminate the location. 207 00:11:23,549 --> 00:11:25,418 It gets harder every day. 208 00:11:25,518 --> 00:11:27,787 The only thing that keeps me going is... 209 00:11:27,887 --> 00:11:29,121 knowing I'll find her. 210 00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:34,226 As the investigation continued, 211 00:11:34,326 --> 00:11:38,364 one of the things we had to do was either focus on Dave 212 00:11:38,464 --> 00:11:41,300 or completely eliminate him. 213 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,103 And what we had to do was recreate his day, 214 00:11:44,203 --> 00:11:46,005 Friday, February 13th, 215 00:11:46,105 --> 00:11:50,009 and verify his whereabouts at every part of that day. 216 00:11:51,477 --> 00:11:55,147 We went to the gym. We pulled up video. 217 00:11:55,247 --> 00:11:57,750 We pulled up video from the school 218 00:11:57,850 --> 00:12:00,820 to verify which way he did drive home. 219 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,122 We talked to the dealership. 220 00:12:03,222 --> 00:12:05,157 We did confirm he was there. 221 00:12:05,257 --> 00:12:07,460 We also talked to and pulled video 222 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:08,894 from the movie theater. 223 00:12:08,994 --> 00:12:11,931 We did confirm he was by himself. 224 00:12:12,031 --> 00:12:14,834 We were able to verify everything that he had said 225 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:16,302 he did that day. 226 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:19,238 Based on that, we were able to rule Dave out. 227 00:12:20,306 --> 00:12:22,341 He had nothing to do with her disappearance. 228 00:12:25,277 --> 00:12:27,613 That's when the fear really set in. 229 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:31,016 Is there a monster among us? 230 00:12:35,254 --> 00:12:38,958 A lot of parents, especially at Escondido High School, 231 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,662 were thinking, "Well, if somebody took Amber, 232 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:44,730 who's next?" 233 00:12:46,165 --> 00:12:48,601 Everybody was on guard. 234 00:12:48,701 --> 00:12:50,870 Parents were driving their kids to school. 235 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:55,174 There was certainly a lot of fear 236 00:12:56,408 --> 00:12:57,877 because they didn't want their child 237 00:12:57,977 --> 00:12:59,812 to go missing like Amber. 238 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:05,484 So February 13th, 2010 came around 239 00:13:05,584 --> 00:13:08,621 and we had decided to do a jog-a-thon 240 00:13:08,721 --> 00:13:10,489 at the high school to raise money 241 00:13:10,589 --> 00:13:12,525 to continue searching for Amber. 242 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,461 And the police came to the school that day 243 00:13:15,561 --> 00:13:18,197 and told me that they were no further along on the case 244 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,698 than they were a year before. 245 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:23,102 Kind of sets in the whole heartbreak and let down. 246 00:13:24,236 --> 00:13:26,639 They really had no idea what had happened to her. 247 00:13:28,541 --> 00:13:31,143 I remember doing a story with Carrie 248 00:13:32,411 --> 00:13:34,914 because it was a year later. 249 00:13:35,014 --> 00:13:38,651 And the hope was never lost with Carrie. 250 00:13:40,319 --> 00:13:43,155 I'm trying to keep things positive, 251 00:13:43,255 --> 00:13:44,256 but it's really hard. 252 00:13:45,624 --> 00:13:47,660 It takes a toll on you. 253 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,028 I mean, I tried to go back to work, 254 00:13:49,128 --> 00:13:50,129 and I couldn't work. 255 00:13:50,229 --> 00:13:52,832 I couldn't be in an enclosed office 256 00:13:52,932 --> 00:13:54,834 without getting anxiety. 257 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:56,569 Come home, please. 258 00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:01,473 We just want her home. 259 00:14:03,809 --> 00:14:05,945 That one-year mark 260 00:14:06,045 --> 00:14:08,581 was excruciating for Carrie. 261 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:11,417 365 days, 262 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:14,386 no sign of your daughter. How would that affect you? 263 00:14:17,389 --> 00:14:19,525 What we knew is if this predator was still 264 00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:21,861 on the loose, we were on borrowed time, 265 00:14:21,961 --> 00:14:23,796 and we didn't want to have another victim. 266 00:14:26,832 --> 00:14:28,467 We had to get a break in this case. 267 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:31,737 We just didn't know how or what that would be. 268 00:14:35,641 --> 00:14:36,675 So here we are, 269 00:14:36,775 --> 00:14:40,646 about 10 miles south of Escondido. 270 00:14:43,015 --> 00:14:46,752 17-year-old Chelsea King just getting ready to go on her run. 271 00:14:49,855 --> 00:14:51,724 She was on the cross-country team. 272 00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:56,629 But then she was also training for a half-marathon 273 00:14:56,729 --> 00:14:57,863 because she wanted to accomplish that 274 00:14:57,963 --> 00:14:59,265 before she left for college. 275 00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:04,370 Chelsea used running to settle herself. 276 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:07,172 A kid in high school, especially a kid in high school 277 00:15:07,273 --> 00:15:08,474 that wants to achieve big things, 278 00:15:08,574 --> 00:15:11,043 has lots of pressure on them. 279 00:15:11,143 --> 00:15:14,213 And Chelsea found ways to relieve that pressure. 280 00:15:14,313 --> 00:15:15,681 We normally would have heard from her 281 00:15:15,781 --> 00:15:17,616 by about 3 in the afternoon, 282 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:21,120 and we hadn't heard from her at all, 283 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:22,588 so we became concerned. 284 00:15:24,123 --> 00:15:25,824 You almost think it's overreactionary, 285 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:28,027 but knowing Chelsea, it wasn't overreactionary-- 286 00:15:28,127 --> 00:15:29,495 something's wrong. 287 00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:46,812 Well, my daughter, Chelsea, 288 00:15:46,912 --> 00:15:49,648 she used to leave for school very early in the morning, 289 00:15:49,748 --> 00:15:51,884 about 6:30-ish. 290 00:15:51,984 --> 00:15:53,819 She had finished her breakfast and she said, 291 00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:55,688 "Bye, Daddy, off to school." 292 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:57,022 I said, "OK, I love you, bye." 293 00:15:58,924 --> 00:15:59,925 That was it. 294 00:16:04,463 --> 00:16:06,231 I knew about Amber's story. 295 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:09,435 We knew that she was missing, 296 00:16:10,703 --> 00:16:11,837 but it didn't resonate 297 00:16:11,937 --> 00:16:14,473 because it hadn't happened to us. 298 00:16:17,309 --> 00:16:19,111 But that morning that she went missing, 299 00:16:19,211 --> 00:16:20,612 we spread a very broad net 300 00:16:20,713 --> 00:16:22,948 in the first 30 minutes of trying to find Chelsea. 301 00:16:24,149 --> 00:16:27,319 Chelsea's mom called one of Chelsea's friends, 302 00:16:27,419 --> 00:16:28,754 and that friend suggested 303 00:16:28,854 --> 00:16:32,157 that we use the AT&T reverse technology at the time, 304 00:16:32,257 --> 00:16:33,959 that we could look at where her phone was 305 00:16:34,059 --> 00:16:36,195 and we could ping it. 306 00:16:36,295 --> 00:16:37,629 We did that, and we saw that it pinged 307 00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:39,498 right at the Rancho Bernardo Community Park, 308 00:16:40,532 --> 00:16:41,667 and that's when I said, 309 00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:43,602 "I'm gonna drive over there and try and find her." 310 00:16:48,374 --> 00:16:49,842 I need to find my little girl. 311 00:16:54,913 --> 00:16:57,349 It started becoming dusk, and I pulled up. 312 00:16:57,449 --> 00:16:59,585 I found her car. 313 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:00,819 I looked inside of her car, 314 00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:05,991 and I saw that her school clothes had all been folded, 315 00:17:06,091 --> 00:17:09,294 sitting on the passenger seat with her phone. 316 00:17:09,395 --> 00:17:11,030 I called Chelsea's mom and said, 317 00:17:11,130 --> 00:17:12,031 "Call the police right now. 318 00:17:12,131 --> 00:17:13,365 I'm gonna go try and find her." 319 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,068 And I took off running down the trails, 320 00:17:16,168 --> 00:17:17,636 calling her name. - Chelsea! 321 00:17:21,273 --> 00:17:24,877 I received a phone call from our supervisor to assist 322 00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:27,012 with a missing persons investigation. 323 00:17:29,648 --> 00:17:32,951 When I got there, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 324 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:38,190 There were agents and agencies that were already present. 325 00:17:38,290 --> 00:17:41,927 Search and rescue teams, K-9 units, 326 00:17:42,027 --> 00:17:46,198 agents from the FBI, agents from the DOJ. 327 00:17:46,298 --> 00:17:49,635 There was just combined effort of resources 328 00:17:50,936 --> 00:17:53,672 all poured into this investigation. 329 00:17:56,842 --> 00:17:58,510 We had to find Chelsea King. 330 00:18:03,982 --> 00:18:06,118 The Kings were obviously worried. 331 00:18:06,218 --> 00:18:07,553 They explained that their daughter was 332 00:18:07,653 --> 00:18:09,688 a model daughter, 333 00:18:09,788 --> 00:18:12,658 very intelligent, very active, very social, 334 00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:15,094 and it is out of the ordinary 335 00:18:15,194 --> 00:18:17,796 for her not to be in contact with them, 336 00:18:17,896 --> 00:18:19,364 to not carry her cell phone 337 00:18:19,465 --> 00:18:21,633 even when she was jogging at the park. 338 00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:24,803 As a dad, as a parent, 339 00:18:24,903 --> 00:18:30,075 the worst nightmare is for your child to be missing, 340 00:18:30,175 --> 00:18:33,078 especially under suspicious circumstances. 341 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:37,316 You start, sort of, taking it personal. 342 00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:40,452 I thought about Chelsea's parents, 343 00:18:40,552 --> 00:18:44,490 and I felt like I, we-- we had to find her 344 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,492 for the sake of Chelsea, for the sake of parents, 345 00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:48,827 for the sake of the entire San Diego community. 346 00:18:53,031 --> 00:18:55,634 Our hearts sunk when we saw another missing girl 347 00:18:55,734 --> 00:18:57,803 so close to our city. 348 00:18:57,903 --> 00:19:00,873 This was another girl that had gone missing 349 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:03,041 in broad daylight, in a public place. 350 00:19:04,610 --> 00:19:05,711 Very concerning. 351 00:19:07,446 --> 00:19:10,949 I was in bed, and my roommate came in and said, 352 00:19:11,049 --> 00:19:12,784 "Another girl's gone missing." 353 00:19:12,885 --> 00:19:14,686 I turned on the news to see 354 00:19:14,786 --> 00:19:16,822 that there was a 17-year-old girl 355 00:19:16,922 --> 00:19:18,557 missing in Poway, 356 00:19:18,657 --> 00:19:21,393 which is only about a 20-minute drive on the freeway 357 00:19:21,493 --> 00:19:23,795 from where we were. 358 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:26,598 When you have two girls within a year go missing 359 00:19:26,698 --> 00:19:28,167 within 30 miles of each other, 360 00:19:28,267 --> 00:19:29,902 it's kind of hard to ignore that. 361 00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:32,304 And instantly, 362 00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:34,840 because I had such a great group of people, 363 00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:37,309 I wanted to reach out and help them. 364 00:19:37,409 --> 00:19:38,710 My phone was ringing off the hook, 365 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:39,978 and everyone was saying, 366 00:19:40,078 --> 00:19:41,880 "We've got to help this family find this girl." 367 00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:45,918 The morning that they started the first search center, 368 00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:48,921 I was told that there were 3,000 people lined up 369 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:50,289 to go out and search for my daughter. 370 00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:52,591 I had not slept all night. 371 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:55,027 I went over there and walked to the line, 372 00:19:55,127 --> 00:19:56,862 thanking every single person. 373 00:19:56,962 --> 00:19:58,764 Thank you so much for coming out. 374 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,033 I saw Carrie at the search center, 375 00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:03,268 and I recognized who she was. 376 00:20:03,368 --> 00:20:06,371 And I walked over to her, and I gave her a big hug. 377 00:20:08,974 --> 00:20:11,009 And he said, "I don't know you, 378 00:20:11,109 --> 00:20:13,912 "but I want to tell you that I love you 379 00:20:14,012 --> 00:20:16,715 "and that thank you so much for helping 380 00:20:16,815 --> 00:20:19,084 "with-- with my daughter 381 00:20:19,184 --> 00:20:21,353 "when you're going through the same stuff 382 00:20:21,453 --> 00:20:22,688 with your daughter." 383 00:20:24,122 --> 00:20:25,457 That's what bonds us together. 384 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:33,198 Rancho Bernardo Park is very large, 385 00:20:33,298 --> 00:20:36,768 and a lot of it is left in its natural state. 386 00:20:38,136 --> 00:20:42,274 The search-and-rescue team, fantastic people, volunteers. 387 00:20:43,342 --> 00:20:44,676 You give them a mission, 388 00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:47,879 and they will find the proverbial needle in a haystack. 389 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:53,619 You don't want to miss anything 390 00:20:53,719 --> 00:20:56,088 that may have been tossed into the area. 391 00:20:56,188 --> 00:20:58,323 So you're not just on the trail searching, 392 00:20:58,423 --> 00:21:01,893 but you're also fanning out and you're moving, 393 00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:04,162 looking for anything that could be considered evidence. 394 00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:26,151 Our first real break 395 00:21:26,251 --> 00:21:30,522 came from a citizen locating clothing objects on the trail. 396 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:34,493 We determined those articles of clothing included 397 00:21:34,593 --> 00:21:36,695 a pair of women's underwear. 398 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:41,800 We wanted to know if there was any evidence 399 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,302 in the underwear 400 00:21:43,402 --> 00:21:46,371 that would link us to the suspect. 401 00:21:47,673 --> 00:21:50,976 We showed the photographs to the Kings, 402 00:21:51,076 --> 00:21:55,113 and they stated that those items that were recovered 403 00:21:55,213 --> 00:21:58,550 were consistent with what Chelsea would wear. 404 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,887 And, at that point, 405 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:04,189 Mrs. King became extremely distraught 406 00:22:04,289 --> 00:22:06,191 and she left. 407 00:22:09,261 --> 00:22:11,129 When they shared with me the evidence, 408 00:22:11,229 --> 00:22:14,399 I still believed my daughter was able to be found. 409 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:21,540 I received a phone call from our crime lab, 410 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,141 they stated, from the blood found 411 00:22:23,241 --> 00:22:25,610 in the underwear at the crime scene, 412 00:22:25,711 --> 00:22:30,115 they found the victim Chelsea King's DNA on it. 413 00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:35,153 And they also found a second DNA profile 414 00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:38,790 from bodily fluid recovered from the underwear also. 415 00:22:41,259 --> 00:22:44,396 That team was tasked with finding, 416 00:22:44,496 --> 00:22:49,668 and contacting, and interviewing anybody within that area 417 00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:52,904 that were registered sex offenders. 418 00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:57,309 Investigators asked me to look through a book 419 00:22:57,409 --> 00:23:00,979 of registered sex offenders in San Diego County 420 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:03,582 that were within a 50-mile geographic area. 421 00:23:03,682 --> 00:23:05,684 And there were over 40 pictures in the book. 422 00:23:06,818 --> 00:23:10,689 These were all extremely high-risk predators. 423 00:23:11,723 --> 00:23:12,924 I had no idea that many of them 424 00:23:13,024 --> 00:23:15,460 in our community, that close. 425 00:23:16,528 --> 00:23:18,497 I was terrified. 426 00:23:18,597 --> 00:23:20,098 Yes, we had somebody 427 00:23:20,198 --> 00:23:23,668 in our community that was hunting young girls. 428 00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:28,173 And so there was fear, fear all through. 429 00:23:28,273 --> 00:23:30,409 Every kid that you asked that was between the ages of 13 430 00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:32,811 and 17 was very afraid. 431 00:23:36,314 --> 00:23:39,551 We started looking for any reports 432 00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:41,219 of any assaults 433 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,923 that may have or did take place within that area. 434 00:23:52,197 --> 00:23:54,132 We came across an incident that took place 435 00:23:54,232 --> 00:23:57,302 on December 27th, 2009. 436 00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:02,941 So it's a beautiful, sunny San Diego day. 437 00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:06,378 22-year-old Candace Moncayo goes on a run 438 00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:08,146 in Rancho Bernardo Park. 439 00:24:14,186 --> 00:24:16,188 I noticed a man who was walking towards me. 440 00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:21,593 He waited until we were next to each other. 441 00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:35,140 I thought that he was trying to rape me. 442 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:39,377 And then I said, "Well, you're gonna have to kill me first." 443 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:42,013 And he said, 444 00:24:42,113 --> 00:24:43,215 "That can be arranged." 445 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,393 22-year-old Candace Moncayo 446 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:58,029 goes on a run in Rancho Bernardo Park, 447 00:24:58,129 --> 00:25:00,065 something she's done many, many times. 448 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,470 She felt the presence of another person. 449 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:07,205 She kept running, 450 00:25:07,305 --> 00:25:08,840 but that presence didn't go away. 451 00:25:14,813 --> 00:25:16,748 Suddenly, she was knocked to the ground. 452 00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:18,583 She's kicking, she's screaming. 453 00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:20,552 She senses what's coming. 454 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:25,223 Candace Montayo is fighting for her life. 455 00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:30,762 At one point, I managed to get one hand on the ground, 456 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:34,766 and I took my right elbow and I bashed him in the nose. 457 00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:40,472 And I got up and I ran faster 458 00:25:40,572 --> 00:25:42,207 than I think I've ever run in my life. 459 00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:48,446 She told police her attacker was a white male, 460 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:53,051 possibly in his 20s, stocky, muscular, 461 00:25:53,151 --> 00:25:56,454 and he had a military-style haircut. 462 00:25:58,089 --> 00:26:01,359 This is when police were able to start putting 463 00:26:01,459 --> 00:26:03,762 the pieces together. 464 00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,431 You had Chelsea King, 465 00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:09,868 who went missing on February 25th. 466 00:26:12,170 --> 00:26:16,508 Just a few months earlier, 22-year-old Candace Moncayo 467 00:26:16,608 --> 00:26:19,844 attacked in basically the same area. 468 00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:25,884 And then on the morning of Friday the 13th, 469 00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:27,385 it was February, 470 00:26:27,485 --> 00:26:31,189 Amber Dubois goes only a few miles away. 471 00:26:34,292 --> 00:26:37,095 That's when they really understood 472 00:26:37,195 --> 00:26:40,665 there could be a serial rapist, 473 00:26:40,765 --> 00:26:43,335 possibly a serial killer out there. 474 00:26:47,172 --> 00:26:50,875 With this information, it becomes even more imperative 475 00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:53,445 that we locate this suspect. 476 00:26:57,115 --> 00:26:59,384 I was still hoping beyond hope 477 00:26:59,484 --> 00:27:02,087 that somehow she had found shelter 478 00:27:02,187 --> 00:27:04,589 or was being held against her will 479 00:27:04,689 --> 00:27:06,424 and they might find her. 480 00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:12,631 All I wanted to do as a dad was get a blanket to her. 481 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:16,568 She was outside, it was cold, it was rainy. 482 00:27:16,668 --> 00:27:19,504 I just wanted to comfort her. 483 00:27:19,604 --> 00:27:21,139 I wanted that for five days. 484 00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:27,012 I was still under the thought of, 485 00:27:27,112 --> 00:27:28,279 oh, God, a mountain lion, 486 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,883 a snake bite, uh-- fell into a canyon. 487 00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:36,621 I couldn't think about a sexual predator taking my daughter. 488 00:27:41,292 --> 00:27:43,895 Our supervisor received a phone call. 489 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:49,901 They had recovered the remains of a young female 490 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,805 in a shallow grave just outside of Lake Hodges. 491 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,179 That was-- that's something that I'll never forget. 492 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:08,386 We literally used paintbrushes 493 00:28:08,486 --> 00:28:13,091 to remove the sand and the dirt from her body. 494 00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:16,461 It was tough to deal with. 495 00:28:16,561 --> 00:28:17,762 I'm thinking about the parents, 496 00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:20,532 I'm thinking about what Chelsea went through. 497 00:28:21,666 --> 00:28:26,204 How she must have been thinking, 498 00:28:26,304 --> 00:28:28,907 "Dad, Mom..." you know, 499 00:28:29,007 --> 00:28:31,476 "...please, come get me." 500 00:28:31,576 --> 00:28:34,946 You know, "Somebody find me. Get me away from here. 501 00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:37,682 Bring me home." 502 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:44,956 When you get told that your child is dead 503 00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:48,493 and, um... 504 00:28:48,593 --> 00:28:51,196 every part of you empties, 505 00:28:51,296 --> 00:28:54,432 you're outside of yourself. You don't feel. 506 00:28:54,532 --> 00:28:57,402 You just go, I hope there's no deeper pain 507 00:28:57,502 --> 00:28:59,437 than you can experience than that. 508 00:28:59,537 --> 00:29:01,339 I don't want to experience anything worse. 509 00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:07,679 I got the phone call 510 00:29:07,779 --> 00:29:11,282 that they had a positive match on a suspect. 511 00:29:11,382 --> 00:29:12,584 The DNA hit came back 512 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:14,586 to a 30-year-old sexual registrant 513 00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:15,954 named John Gardner. 514 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:20,258 John Gardner's bodily fluid was found 515 00:29:20,358 --> 00:29:22,727 on victim Chelsea King's underwear. 516 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:27,132 I actually heard the name John Gardner for the first time 517 00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:28,633 from a law enforcement source. 518 00:29:28,733 --> 00:29:33,505 In 2000, he attacked and raped a 13-year-old girl. 519 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,573 He actually spent time in prison. 520 00:29:35,673 --> 00:29:39,344 He got 10 years, but he only served about five. 521 00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,012 And he was out there, 522 00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:47,819 and he had violated his probation many, many times, 523 00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:51,022 but seemed to always find a way to get out of jail... 524 00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:54,025 and just wander the streets. 525 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,429 Once we knew he was a sexual predator, 526 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,131 it's a different ballgame now. 527 00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:03,968 When I found out his history, 528 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:06,604 I had no doubt in my mind 529 00:30:06,704 --> 00:30:10,842 he was the man who's been committing these crimes. 530 00:30:10,942 --> 00:30:13,178 He was the monster. 531 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:21,653 Once we had positively identified John Gardner, 532 00:30:21,753 --> 00:30:24,055 we did what we called, you know, make him famous. 533 00:30:24,155 --> 00:30:25,757 We put his picture out for the media, 534 00:30:25,857 --> 00:30:27,725 and a call was received 535 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:31,162 that someone had identified who they believed 536 00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:32,363 was John Gardner. 537 00:30:33,798 --> 00:30:36,134 The Fugitive Task Force tracked his cell phone 538 00:30:36,234 --> 00:30:39,571 in the area of a restaurant called Hernandez Hide-a-way, 539 00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:43,341 which is actually on the north end of Lake Hodges, 540 00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:46,811 just outside Rancho Bernardo Community Park. 541 00:30:46,911 --> 00:30:47,979 They surrounded him, 542 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,581 they took John Gardner down at gunpoint, 543 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,816 handcuffed him, and arrested him. 544 00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:02,260 Gardner is wet. 545 00:31:03,628 --> 00:31:05,563 He's intoxicated. 546 00:31:05,663 --> 00:31:07,131 You could smell the alcohol on him. 547 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:11,369 We immediately went towards, 548 00:31:11,469 --> 00:31:13,538 "Hey, we know you have something to do 549 00:31:13,638 --> 00:31:15,206 with the disappearance of Chelsea King." 550 00:31:17,008 --> 00:31:18,142 In the state of mind he was in, 551 00:31:18,243 --> 00:31:20,879 being intoxicated and belligerent, 552 00:31:20,979 --> 00:31:21,880 he basically said, "Hey, 553 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:23,681 "I don't know what you're talking about. 554 00:31:23,781 --> 00:31:25,617 I want an attorney." 555 00:31:26,751 --> 00:31:27,652 Part of the processing 556 00:31:27,752 --> 00:31:29,721 was to take his clothing as evidence. 557 00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:32,390 Once he was disrobed, 558 00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:35,894 we could see obvious abrasions on his arms, on his legs. 559 00:31:35,994 --> 00:31:39,497 You know, he had some abrasions or bruise on his face. 560 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,469 It was incredibly important for detectives 561 00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:49,340 to have Candace Moncayo identify John Gardner. 562 00:31:51,175 --> 00:31:52,777 There was no doubt whatsoever, 563 00:31:52,877 --> 00:31:54,078 no hesitation. 564 00:31:54,178 --> 00:31:57,615 She was able to positively identify John Gardner 565 00:31:57,715 --> 00:31:59,851 as the person that attacked her. 566 00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:03,922 March 5th, we're in our office, 567 00:32:04,022 --> 00:32:07,492 and we get a call from the sheriff, Sheriff Gore, 568 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:10,962 and we are to meet him in his office, like, right now. 569 00:32:12,397 --> 00:32:13,398 To our surprise, 570 00:32:13,498 --> 00:32:15,199 we were to pick up John Gardner, 571 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:17,568 and he would be taking us to a location. 572 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:19,203 We had no idea what was going on. 573 00:32:20,705 --> 00:32:23,708 It was really odd, the way he was acting. 574 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:27,211 To our surprise, he said something 575 00:32:27,312 --> 00:32:28,913 that was kind of red-flagged. 576 00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:36,955 John Gardner said something quite unusual, 577 00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:38,656 quite unexpected-- 578 00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:41,259 he's going to show us where he deposited 579 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:43,194 the body of another victim. 580 00:32:53,504 --> 00:32:56,040 The district attorney asked us to come down to their office 581 00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:57,976 to let us know that they got a confession 582 00:32:58,076 --> 00:33:00,244 out of John Gardner about Chelsea, 583 00:33:00,345 --> 00:33:02,080 and they think 584 00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:04,415 he's also responsible for another girl. 585 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:08,886 Part of John Gardner's deal would be 586 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:11,456 they would take the death penalty off the table for him 587 00:33:11,556 --> 00:33:16,294 if he agreed to take us to where Amber Dubois' remains 588 00:33:16,394 --> 00:33:17,495 could be found. 589 00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:20,064 For me, it was a very hard decision, 590 00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:22,834 personally, to say, "I'm OK with him 591 00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:25,470 not having the death penalty on him," 592 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:27,472 but emotionally, 593 00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:31,943 there's no way I couldn't give that to Amber's family. 594 00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:33,711 They've been through so much, 595 00:33:33,811 --> 00:33:36,781 and her and I share that bond, so... 596 00:33:38,483 --> 00:33:40,618 there's no way I couldn't agree to the terms. 597 00:33:40,718 --> 00:33:41,919 I couldn't live with myself. 598 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,291 So March 5th, 599 00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:49,694 we went down to the San Diego County Jail 600 00:33:49,794 --> 00:33:51,829 where John Gardner was being held... 601 00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:54,999 and we picked him up. 602 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:58,169 He's between Palmer and I 603 00:33:58,269 --> 00:33:59,604 in the back seat of a sedan 604 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:02,573 being followed by heavily armed swat officers 605 00:34:02,673 --> 00:34:04,475 in front and back of us. 606 00:34:04,575 --> 00:34:06,110 We had been briefed 607 00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:10,815 that we should be uber conscious 608 00:34:10,915 --> 00:34:15,253 of any movement or any attempts by John Gardner 609 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:18,556 to escape or to do anything. 610 00:34:19,757 --> 00:34:22,760 And that if we got the sense 611 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:25,263 that something was gonna go amiss, 612 00:34:25,363 --> 00:34:29,667 that we should neutralize any threat that he may present. 613 00:34:32,136 --> 00:34:34,705 I'm sitting next to a murderer. 614 00:34:35,773 --> 00:34:39,110 So we're trying not to be so hard, 615 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:42,413 perhaps make him less amenable 616 00:34:42,513 --> 00:34:44,715 to showing us where the body was. 617 00:34:44,816 --> 00:34:47,318 But then again, in my mind, I'm thinking, 618 00:34:47,418 --> 00:34:50,755 "You son of a bitch, you-- you murderer." 619 00:34:52,557 --> 00:34:54,092 It was a difficult ride. 620 00:34:54,192 --> 00:34:56,227 It lasted over an hour. 621 00:34:58,229 --> 00:35:00,598 We finally got to a location, a remote area 622 00:35:00,698 --> 00:35:02,800 up in North County known as Pala. 623 00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:08,706 We opened up the back doors, got Mr. Gardner out. 624 00:35:08,806 --> 00:35:10,208 He had waist chains on. 625 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:14,245 He liked being the center of attention, 626 00:35:14,345 --> 00:35:16,080 you know, he is very arrogant. 627 00:35:18,683 --> 00:35:20,485 You know, he's out of custody temporarily. 628 00:35:20,585 --> 00:35:23,721 You know, he's the king for the day out there. 629 00:35:25,056 --> 00:35:26,290 Pointing out all this stuff, 630 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:27,725 telling us where to check. 631 00:35:31,929 --> 00:35:34,165 It's a very steep hillside. 632 00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,768 As he shuffled over to the edge of the cliff, 633 00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:41,205 he pointed down the cliff a short distance. 634 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:45,343 We were able to sift through that area, 635 00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:48,779 ultimately found a human bone. 636 00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:52,150 And then, you know, some minutes later, 637 00:35:53,751 --> 00:35:55,753 we discovered a skull. 638 00:35:58,756 --> 00:36:00,825 By this time, it's getting dark, 639 00:36:00,925 --> 00:36:02,560 it's getting foggy, 640 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:05,329 and we spent the night with lights 641 00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:07,565 and flashlights, exhuming Amber 642 00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:09,167 from the side of the mountain. 643 00:36:11,769 --> 00:36:15,873 We had been searching for Amber for over a year. 644 00:36:15,973 --> 00:36:20,077 I was on the one side so elated that we finally found Amber. 645 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:22,180 We were going to be able to provide closure, 646 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,849 but then obviously, how tragic that was. 647 00:36:24,949 --> 00:36:26,517 She was only 14 years old. 648 00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:30,855 And I could not imagine what that poor girl 649 00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:32,256 had to go through. 650 00:36:35,593 --> 00:36:37,762 It was devastating to hear that her remains were found, 651 00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,330 but it was also a relief. 652 00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:45,269 We went to court and he pled guilty to killing Amber. 653 00:36:45,369 --> 00:36:47,405 - What is your plea? - Guilty. 654 00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:51,175 But then, in a final calculated move, 655 00:36:51,275 --> 00:36:55,413 he refused to give any details about Amber's murder. 656 00:36:55,513 --> 00:36:58,216 I reached out to his attorneys, 657 00:36:58,316 --> 00:37:00,651 telling them that I just want answers, 658 00:37:00,751 --> 00:37:03,321 that I wanted to know what happened to Amber. 659 00:37:04,422 --> 00:37:06,357 He said, "If you want to know anything 660 00:37:06,457 --> 00:37:07,992 "about Amber or Chelsea, 661 00:37:08,092 --> 00:37:10,094 I'm only gonna tell her parents." 662 00:37:11,696 --> 00:37:13,130 And at that point, that's all I had to hear, 663 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,633 and I was going to get the answers I wanted. 664 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:22,206 I was allowed to go to the San Diego County Jail 665 00:37:22,306 --> 00:37:23,908 and meet with Gardner 666 00:37:24,008 --> 00:37:25,610 about what he did to my daughter. 667 00:37:33,818 --> 00:37:36,187 I Was on a mission to find out what happened. 668 00:37:36,287 --> 00:37:38,256 I wanted closure. 669 00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:41,626 It's something out of "Silence of the Lambs," 670 00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:44,295 like he's Hannibal Lecter. 671 00:37:44,395 --> 00:37:49,267 This big, strong monster wanted to control the situation, 672 00:37:49,367 --> 00:37:51,569 to dominate women. 673 00:37:51,669 --> 00:37:53,638 That was his pattern. 674 00:37:53,738 --> 00:37:55,106 Because he's a psychopath. 675 00:37:56,374 --> 00:37:57,408 He's sitting there with Carrie. 676 00:37:57,508 --> 00:37:59,377 They have a glass partition between them. 677 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:03,114 And he basically tells her 678 00:38:03,214 --> 00:38:05,716 everything that she had dreaded... 679 00:38:06,917 --> 00:38:08,352 but needed to know... 680 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,022 about her daughter. 681 00:38:15,926 --> 00:38:18,229 I passed her driving down the street, 682 00:38:18,329 --> 00:38:20,598 and that's the first time that I saw her. 683 00:38:21,866 --> 00:38:23,567 I pulled up next to her. 684 00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:25,469 With the windows down in the car. 685 00:38:25,569 --> 00:38:29,707 I had the knife out and visible 686 00:38:29,807 --> 00:38:32,143 and told her that I also had a gun 687 00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:33,611 and to get in the car 688 00:38:33,711 --> 00:38:35,446 or it was gonna be a lot worse. 689 00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:43,154 She actually looked at me 690 00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:46,223 in kind of shock and disbelief. 691 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:48,926 She asked me why I was doing it, what was wrong. 692 00:38:52,063 --> 00:38:55,433 When we got up to the Paula area, 693 00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,468 it's a little plateau, dirt area 694 00:38:57,568 --> 00:38:59,236 that was just off of that road. 695 00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:04,208 And that's where everything, the rest of it took place. 696 00:39:06,477 --> 00:39:08,779 This remote area, 697 00:39:08,879 --> 00:39:10,348 he raped her, 698 00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:12,516 and that's when he stabbed her. 699 00:39:32,770 --> 00:39:34,905 He didn't have remorse. 700 00:39:35,005 --> 00:39:36,874 After telling me the horrific way 701 00:39:36,974 --> 00:39:38,542 that he killed my daughter, he said, 702 00:39:38,642 --> 00:39:41,746 "I'm ready for you to tell me how you feel about me." 703 00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:43,814 I just hung up the phone and walked out. 704 00:39:45,449 --> 00:39:46,384 And I have to tell you, 705 00:39:46,484 --> 00:39:47,752 it was the best thing I ever did. 706 00:39:49,086 --> 00:39:50,154 And I left with closure. 707 00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:54,792 On April 16, 2010, 708 00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:58,462 I attended the sentencing of John Gardner in San Diego. 709 00:39:58,562 --> 00:40:00,998 For the crime of murder in the first degree, 710 00:40:01,098 --> 00:40:04,001 Chelsea King under special circumstances-- 711 00:40:04,101 --> 00:40:06,537 life without the possibility of parole. 712 00:40:07,638 --> 00:40:10,274 For the crime of murder in the first degree 713 00:40:10,374 --> 00:40:13,544 of Amber Dubois under special circumstances-- 714 00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:17,214 life in prison without the possibility of parole. 715 00:40:19,316 --> 00:40:21,018 One of the most satisfying things 716 00:40:21,118 --> 00:40:23,754 about being in law enforcement 717 00:40:23,854 --> 00:40:26,457 is to take evil off the streets 718 00:40:26,557 --> 00:40:29,126 and being able to take John Gardner off the streets 719 00:40:29,226 --> 00:40:31,095 was one of our greatest accomplishments. 720 00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:35,533 John Gardner was obviously 721 00:40:35,633 --> 00:40:38,269 someone that had no respect for women, 722 00:40:38,369 --> 00:40:40,971 and he definitely had an anger issue. 723 00:40:42,473 --> 00:40:46,110 If he wasn't caught, he would definitely continue 724 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:47,478 preying on young girls. 725 00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:50,981 I'm on meds right now. 726 00:40:51,081 --> 00:40:53,017 You can see the anger in my eyes 727 00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:54,485 just of trying to talk. 728 00:40:54,585 --> 00:40:57,621 I get angry, I blow up, I explode. 729 00:40:57,721 --> 00:41:00,357 I will kill. I know I will. 730 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,427 I'm the most dangerous type of sexual predator. 731 00:41:03,527 --> 00:41:05,930 I am the type that needs to be locked up... 732 00:41:07,164 --> 00:41:08,299 forever. 733 00:41:18,909 --> 00:41:20,344 Putting people in the ground is one thing, 734 00:41:20,444 --> 00:41:23,347 but digging them back up is a lot different. 735 00:41:24,515 --> 00:41:26,817 The fingernails, they'd been ripped off. 736 00:41:26,917 --> 00:41:27,885 That's torture. 737 00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:30,120 Whoever did do this... they're still out there. 738 00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:32,323 On this Friday the 13th the past refused to stay buried. 56434

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