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Hi, Terry. Thank you so much for
inviting us here today.
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Now, we are going to go on an incredible
journey with your life.
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You have had some amazing experiences
since you were a child, basically
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connected around extraterrestrials.
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Now, you call your friends the
extraterrestrials, your Orion friends.
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But what we'd like to know is really
when and how did it all begin for you?
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I don't call them my Orion friends.
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Oh, you don't? No, it's when I had the
book published that the publishers
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them my Orion friends. Oh, apologies.
OK.
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That's all right.
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But it all started for me, I suppose,
from the time when I could acknowledge
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things and realise that, yeah, I'm here.
But at a very young age, when
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I knew that I could probably, if I sat
and concentrated, I could probably...
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realised what people were thinking.
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And to me, I didn't think that was
anything strange, because why should I?
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little kid, I wouldn't know that.
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And I did know there was things going on
in people's lives with sicknesses at a
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very young age, and I felt the ability
that I might be able to help them as
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well.
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But as the years went on, I think the
most amazing thing was when I had some
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back surgery done, which...
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It couldn't be done where we are now. It
had to have been done outside of this
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planet. So that was when it all came
home to me that, big time, there's more
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this than just a psychic ability or a
healing ability.
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There's also a real seriousness to it as
to where all this stuff's coming from.
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I'm not a UFO researcher.
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I don't sit in my garden and look up at
the stars all night or anything silly
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like that.
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I listen to a lot of people, what they
have to say about the subject.
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But I try to distance myself from what
they're saying as to what really happens
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to me.
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So when I researched it, because I'm not
a UFO researcher, I researched myself.
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It was what I thought was happening.
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And actually took the trouble to get
copies of x -rays. So I got the proof. I
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got medical reports.
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So I got the proof as to what's been
happening.
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So I suppose from sort of 15 or 16 was a
bit of a hard time for me when you're
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suddenly becoming an adult.
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And you've got to deal with things in
real life. And when you get friends that
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you don't want them to think, it's a bit
weird, there's something going on here.
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But friends of mine have contacted me
since, back from when I was 14 or 15.
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There was one incident that some guy
came to my home probably about 10 years
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ago, because I'm getting on for about 33
now, about 10 years
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ago. He turned up and he said, we hadn't
seen each other for about 20 years.
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Okay. And he said, do you remember the
time when we was in this particular
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And I said, yes.
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He said, and you went to the corner of
the park. He said, and there was like a
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greenish mist hanging over the park. And
I thought then it had something to do
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with the street that ran through the
park.
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And I went across there and then there
was a little boy with similar colour
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to yours and these big blue eyes and
invited me into somewhere, which at the
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time it could have been the pavilion. I
don't know.
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Oh, so you were invited into a building?
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Into something, yeah. Oh, into
something. But when I went in there, I
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recognise it. It was obviously strange,
you know. Okay.
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It was a building, though.
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No, it wasn't a building, no.
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To me, I was trying to, in my mind,
accept it as a building. Okay. Because
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never experienced anything like this
before.
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And so I went inside and it was very
clinical.
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And then he just took a nick out of my
shin.
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Was this someone the same age as you?
Yeah, just the youngster. Might have
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been younger than me.
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With this beautiful blonde hair.
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Can I just ask how they were dressed?
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How they were dressed? Well,
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yeah, I can remember. Didn't have a
shirt and tie on.
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Didn't have overalls on.
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Sort of a bluey, sort of bluey clothes
they had on.
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I can't remember.
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whether it was trousers or what they had
on, but like a bluey, I wouldn't take
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that much notice, really.
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I was quite sugar to what he would want
to sort of nick my shoe. So they took
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you into a building, or one person took
you into a building?
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Yes. And then they took a... I was
assuming it was a blood sample.
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Okay. Did you not wonder why they were
doing that? Of course I did.
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Did you not object?
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No, because I just went on the floor.
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In a state of shock, I suppose.
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But I did have a feeling that there was
no harm in what was happening. Okay.
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You know.
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So you were quite at peace with the
situation.
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Yeah, and of course then, later years, I
can only assume that it was a craft
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that I went on. Okay.
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Some sort of a, if you like, alien
craft. But my granddaughter said to me,
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you don't see UFOs, Grandad. How can you
call them UFOs when you claim to be on
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board these things? So you know what
they are.
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You know, they're ships from somewhere
else. Exactly.
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So... That was probably a bit of a wake
-up call when I was a kid.
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But this is my friend telling me that at
the time he remembered it, he didn't go
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inside himself. There was two boys.
There was Dave and a guy called Roy.
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And they said that they felt as though
they were frozen at the time. They
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couldn't move.
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Did you feel like time had stopped or
changed or anything like that? No,
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I was sort of in a shock.
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It's not until you get older and you
realise... You look back.
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Yeah, that you put an explanation to
what happened. Okay.
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And so he said, but we always thought
you were going to harm us. And I said,
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there's no reason to harm you.
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And he wanted me then to explain what
happened, and I told him what my
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experience was with that.
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But why they don't know, I don't know. I
don't know. There's no sort of
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explanation for that.
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But that was, let's say, one of the
first things that I started thinking
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well, what is going on?
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Does this happen to other people?
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Can't ask the question because people
just think you're completely crazy.
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So it wasn't an illusion. So now
somebody's told me that they saw it as
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Two people there that saw this thing
happen.
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I got home that evening and I said to my
mother that I'd been in the river down
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there and I'd caught my chin on a piece
of glass.
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So you didn't want to tell anyone what
happened to you? So I actually made an
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excuse. So why should I want to make an
excuse? But I did. That's what happened.
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But I know my mother knew different.
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She knows, and she's still alive, and
she knows what went on. But she won't
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admit to any of it. Could you... I know
it's really gone back in time for you,
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but can you remember anything about this
place that you were taken into where
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they took a nick of your skin? What was
it like? To me, it was like a clinic.
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Oh, okay.
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Very clinical.
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That's the only thing. And were there
other people there?
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No, just that one person.
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It was a person. It wasn't a slut with a
little grave.
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No grave.
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No, it was quite human -looking.
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Now, you don't believe in the grave of
sluts, do you?
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Well, I'd have to believe if I saw one,
wouldn't I?
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Okay. But I haven't experienced that.
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And I don't know, I think it's a bit of
a myth, and I think that...
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I can't say too much because I don't
want to be thinking that more women seem
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have experiences with them than not.
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And I don't know why.
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Well, I've come across this in other
cases where I've spoke to people.
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And what the general consensus is, is
because women only produce
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one egg per month, whereas the male
obviously produces a lot of sperm.
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less need for them to take the men
because people seem to think that they
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cross -breeding or making a new
population of alien -human
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hybrids. We're not really sure what the
bottom of it is, but that is why more
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women are taken than men because they
can get quite a lot from men. That's
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you know, it's not very often that
happens. But we're not sure why they
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particular men.
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Is it just a lottery, or is there a
specific reason that a certain male is
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taken? Is it because maybe someone in
their family, their genetic line has
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taken before them, so they want to carry
on a certain line?
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What do you think about that theory?
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Well, I hear what you say, but I don't
really have an interest. I think that
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women have their thing every month, and
it affects their body big time.
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And I've known of women that have told
me stories about things, but I found out
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that they've had miscarriages or upsets
in their life.
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And it's a way for them to react,
because I don't think there's any
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proof that little grey aliens have come
along and kidnapped somebody and taken
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them away and probed them or prodded
them. I don't...
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I can't see why they should do. But
they're not always grey, are they?
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I don't know.
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To me, it's always the grey aliens.
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I don't know any other aliens.
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I mean, the guys that I talk about, I
don't even call them aliens.
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And to me, they're not aliens. I think
that we've all come from other planets
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come onto this Earth. So we're not
aliens.
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We've been brought here by other
planets.
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And I think they could do that.
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They could fetch you here. That
technology is so advanced to what ours
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do they want to mess around with sperm
and eggs and things?
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Well, this is the question. What is
going on? So why do they want a new
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generation of what?
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But if they are coming and taking a nick
out of your skin as such, what is the
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purpose for that?
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Well, I can only put mine down to that
my blood test comes back ever so
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Okay? And so does my mother's.
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And I got the proof of that. I got the
blood test done.
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There's something like, is it bubbles in
your blood?
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Oh, that's another thing.
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Like you've been out of space.
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Yes,
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that's right. Like you've been living in
Mexico City for years, or you've been
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out in space as an astronaut.
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So there's that, which I got the blood
test done back.
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So I can only think that that was done
for a purpose when I was young. Like the
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experiences I've had, which have been
very frightening when I was young,
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say to you look this you're going to
experience these things in life so this
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what's going to happen so when i was a
kid i used to have some frightening
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experiences and i've seen some
frightening things you have haven't you
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reading your book yeah very unusual
things some frightening people as well i
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think we all see them but i don't you
see i don't talk about anything else
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than what happened for me but i don't
know and if people are seeing gray
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running around or weird things then
obviously they've seen them It's not for
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to question.
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And if they've had implants done well,
then they have.
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I mean, I don't know. I can't recall
anything like that happening to me.
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You know, mine's been a different sort
of a thing that's been happening over
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years. So why is it happening to you?
Why is what is happening to you
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to you? I don't know.
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They haven't told you? No, why should
they?
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Well, I don't know. They should give you
a heads up, I think, at least. No, no.
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I think I would probably... realize that
what's happening is quite a natural
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thing so it's part of my life but part
of your life but you're not curious to
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know why because you you wrote in your
book about you have this connection with
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with egypt yeah i think it goes back
possibly a past life to egypt that you
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believe that you were there And it was a
connection with the pharaohs, wasn't
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it? Well, that was interesting, because
that's something that Robert Bovell...
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Because you've been reading... Yeah, I
went with Robert and Graham Hancock, but
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I think that's how Robert worked it out,
that maybe I was a pharaoh years and
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years ago. A very important one, of
course.
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Do you know which one?
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No, but I always feel very impotent.
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Impotent or important?
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I was obviously an important pharaoh, of
course.
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They had a capability, this is what
Robert's telling me through his
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that they could go as a human person
into the spirit world if there was a
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certain place in Egypt by the pyramids,
and they would go into the spirit world.
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Do you mean as in actual projecting?
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I don't know what that means.
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Well, I think the posh word today is
remote viewing.
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That's a lot of crap, isn't it?
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Is it?
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Yeah, it's a lot of rubbish.
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Why do you think that?
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You see, you're going to find that when
you're in a dream state, all weird
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things can happen, can't they? You know,
in a dream state.
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So I don't know with these things.
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I'd have to be on some very strong
drugs, I think, to do this.
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astral projecting well i have to i have
to personally say i have astral
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projected oh my wife says she's all
remote viewed and i know a lot of people
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have and it is different to a dream well
then okay so i can i can not remote
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view but um i could i can see things
going on Okay. And everybody has been in
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different ways, don't they?
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I don't put names on the things that
happened to me. I just think it's an
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thing, an actual occurrence, if you
like.
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So I don't have to put a box or a tab to
it that, oh, I just remote viewed,
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because I didn't. I saw something. In
the book, I predicted the thing that
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happened, the tsunami.
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Okay. Yeah. But the publishers wouldn't
put the full story, because it would
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frighten people.
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Okay. Now, to me, that's not remote
viewing.
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That's...
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my computer in my brain waking up like
they did years ago and saying look this
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is what you're capable of seeing you can
see these things that go on but to me
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that's not a remote viewing I think
there's so many different things that we
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to figure out when we get messages or
feelings not necessarily everything is a
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remote viewing or an astral projection
because you usually have to be in a
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strange state of a deep consciousness or
a meditation to go on an astral
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projection but sometimes you just get a
flash don't you or a feeling that
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something's going to happen and you get
a lot of these don't you yes yeah i get
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nine things um you know i mean the thing
in egypt is that i'd get a regular
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occurrence i mean probably every other
week i've seen something and um it would
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be um standing back from the pyramids
and seeing like a big sun coming over
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and to emerge me. And I think that's the
feeling of going into the spirit world,
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but not as an actual astral projection,
but as actually physically going there
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as a human being into the spirit world.
So I put the brakes on it, because I
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don't want to go there.
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So you actually had an experience,
didn't you, in one of the Egyptian
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didn't you?
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So did you feel like you were, like in
the movie Stargate, actually going to
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In the movie Stargate, they are used as,
like, transportation machines.
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You know, I think that... Is that what
you think they are? Well, all the... You
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see the comic and all these things.
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Why do they put these things? Because
obviously they've happened.
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Well, exactly.
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There's always a different truth in it,
maybe. Yeah, yeah.
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I think that... I was trying to explain
to Robert and Graham that the
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sarcophagus is actually...
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It's a machine that travels through
space.
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And you don't need a door in the Pyramid
to get this thing in and out, because
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when it's up and running, it's
transparent anyway.
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So the whole thing moves?
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No, it just goes like a big jelly.
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So things can travel in and out. This
thing travels like a superconductor, so
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can whiz around the space.
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But I think they brought spirits and
souls back in this thing, because it's
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of granite.
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And it was a sealed thing.
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Were you not curious to just let go and
go?
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No.
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No. Why?
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Because something tells me it wouldn't
be the thing to do.
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Because I think I'd just go and be stone
dead on the spot.
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And I didn't want that to happen.
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Because I think you've got to be dead.
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And I think these fairies used to die
when they had that experience. They'd go
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into the spirit world. That's where you
would be.
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Which is a far better place, apparently,
to be than what it is here.
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So I've heard.
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Sign me up.
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That's what the pharaohs were like.
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They wanted their body to last longer on
this earth.
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Because when it rotted away, then they'd
probably come back.
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Do you know anything of monatomic gold
that the pharaohs were supposed to eat,
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believe? Well, what they do is powdered
gold.
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Yeah. And what they would do, yeah, in
carrots, there's like the carotene in
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carrots. In certain foods, there is
this...
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And what it would do, it would give you
telepathy.
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And so you'd be very telepathic.
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And that's what the other pharaohs, I
don't think, I think before the
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I don't think that we used to talk as
we're talking.
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Because I think, I watched a programme
about wolves, and I reckon that wolves
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talk without a speak.
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Sorry, can you repeat that?
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Yeah, told us how to speak.
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Because of that grunting, because I
think we used to grunt a lot. I grunt a
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now and sniff a lot.
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But that's got something to do with it,
because we lost the telepathy.
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We didn't have to talk to people.
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You know, we could just sort of do this
through our minds.
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your pharaohs which you believe you're
in contact with the the actual threshold
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from orion are they did they genetically
engineer mankind
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are they connected with the uh the
anarchy well i don't know i mean um
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it's interesting because when i see the
program on the crystal skull okay and
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that's supposed to be some sort of
computer device of of what our brain is
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supposed to be or something.
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Is this the one... Dove child?
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No, no, no.
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There's several crystal skulls, but I
think there's possibly supposed to be
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genuine one. Oh, yes, I know. See, I'm
not talking to me, I'm talking to what
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you might see on the TV.
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Now, and the Anunnaki, I mean, I don't
know. I've heard stories about that sort
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of thing, you know.
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But I don't think that we were
particularly... Maybe we were modified
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atmosphere on this planet.
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to be able to breathe on this planet,
and things like that.
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Maybe there were things done like that,
but I think we were human beings before
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we come here, but maybe adjusted to suit
the planet.
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You know, like we get different
nationalities, so like the Mayan Indians
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come from their planet, the Tibetan
monks, and also they've got some
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of the bodies of the star people, like
the Tibetan monks in one of their
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and the Egyptians have got.
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They're bodies of the star people.
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So they've all got the people there, but
you're not going to get to see them,
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obviously. But these are the first
people to come to the Earth from the
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beginning. But, yeah, I think we were
probably just adjusted or finely tuned
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settle down on this planet, just to hate
each other and kill each other and
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shoot each other and cause a lot of
problems.
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But I don't think we've realised yet
that we don't need that.
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That's not part of it.
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So we've got a bit of a journey to go.
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What do you know of...
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extraterrestrials from wherever actually
having bases on here on earth or in the
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sea lots of other things to think they
they have bases underwater and also
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on the moon if you could tell us about
what you know about anything who
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are here i'll only know what you know
because i only know what i've seen on
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tv and whether i want to bleed that or
not well i just wondered because you
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a lot of very interesting contacts who
maybe can share things with you in
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confidence or not in confidence.
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Do you think that we're actually moving
towards some kind of contact,
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big contact as such?
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I think that's happened.
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I think that's happened.
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We have got contact, but I'm saying the
general public too. Yeah, well, you've
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only got to look at old churches.
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And if you look at the lead light in old
churches, and a lot of the churches
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have had their UFOs taken away because
of different people, like I think one of
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the kings of France got a bit of lead
and stuff.
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So I think that's happened.
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And what you're saying is, is that going
to happen again?
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Possibly it will.
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Because it's happened. Because you're
going to look at the religious side of
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things, and the Bible's full of UFOs.
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And you look at old churches, you look
at...
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Monuments around the world and in caves,
the drawing of UFOs. Well, this is it,
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isn't it? It goes back thousands of
years, the cave drawings. Yeah, and
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people have seen them. Yeah. It
happened.
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So whether it's going to come around
again, why not?
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But I couldn't put a date on when.
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But I'm sure that people are getting,
like, a load of UFOs in Mexico.
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There must be some contact there. In
Sweden, there must be contact there with
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people. So I think it is happening, but
we don't get to hear about it.
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You talk about your alien friends,
blonde hair, blue eyes, but what about
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aliens from other planets?
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Do you know of aliens coming from other
stars?
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No, because over the years I've worked
it out. And are they all friendly?
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Well, I've only worked it out that, in
my mind, through my experience, is that
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we've got two spirits and a soul, like
some of the native Indians say. So one
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our spirits is not particularly here,
it's somewhere else.
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so that spirit is that the spirit that
you see when you're in need to call for
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help is that another replica of us
somewhere else um so i just think that
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the beginning when we came and as things
came around that we came from different
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styles and we were put here as humans
and i think that um we did leave behind
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that other spirit um i think um the one
lot of indians that like the uh a little
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doll a little replica of themselves when
they was on another planet i think it's
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called the katina doll something like
that which was then on another planet
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which the dress was completely different
that's the way they dressed before
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actually that we have a replica and i
have heard the connection with orion
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so not not just from your phone but from
others that we have a body duplicate
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it's not like the body snatchers But
there is a body duplicate and we are
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heading towards some change where that
body is going to be becoming the main
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body. Do you know anything about that?
Well, that could happen.
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I mean, the Americans have for years
with their rockets and things, they want
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get out into space. They're trying to
get to Orion.
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Because they think, I think, they seem
to think that that's heaven.
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That's where it's actually heaven.
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And I heard a story a while back that
the Hubble telescope had picked up this
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big white city out in space.
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One of the newspapers had published it,
and they were told to keep quiet about
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it.
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Can you just say that again?
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Yeah, the Hubble telescope picked up a
big white city.
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Why did he? In faith.
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Yeah. Okay.
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And the newspapers published it, and it
was told not to publish it.
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And the Pope finished up with all the
information.
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Because if you want to know the truth,
you just go to the Vatican.
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Well, yeah, but they don't give
anything. They won't even give us the
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Bible. They're not going to tell you.
It's all closed and locked doors.
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They're not going to tell you. So they
do know what's going on, you know.
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And very controlling people.
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Not very nice, is it?
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Well, no, because knowledge is power,
isn't it? Of course.
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And ultimate knowledge is ultimate
power.
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And it has to come out in the end, which
it has to come out eventually.
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Well, this is what people seem to think
that we are heading towards.
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And they seem to think...
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Something is going to happen very soon.
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Well, that's a good thought.
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But I've heard this for a few years now,
like, you know, the Indies and I. But
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I've heard that, you know, they're going
to turn up on that doorstep. People
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with their placards going down Oxford
Street. Yeah, it never happened, did it?
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Well, I don't know.
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No, because there wasn't a specific
date. I think we're coming up to the
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Oh, dear.
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The Mayan calendar, I think. But you
can't predict the end of the world.
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Well, people aren't saying it is the end
of the world, but what they're saying
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is there's supposed to be a huge shift,
isn't there? A shift in consciousness or
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the way we live.
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Do you think it might be something to do
with maybe what's happening now with
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the American, now they've got their
president and things, and things are
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round, and I don't know.
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I don't put a lot of faith in that. He
won't be running America.
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The Bush family will.
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And Clinton will be running America.
Well, they always have, haven't they?
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will run it.
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And unless he slips up and says
something openly, you know, which I hope
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do, you know, they're all controlled
people.
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But it's always the same faces in power,
isn't it? Of course. Always the same
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faces.
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This is where I was going with the ET
contact before, because we hear of
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Roswell. I mean, Roswell is just,
everybody knows about Roswell. But what
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the things behind closed doors where
there's supposed to have been multiple
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crashes of UFOs? But we are supposed to
be, one hears, working with
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ETs. You know, we have got ET contact.
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They are from Orion or from elsewhere.
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Have you spoken to Marcus Allen at all?
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Michael? Marcus Allen.
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Oh, Marcus Allen, no. Yeah, he does talk
on maybe some of the technology we've
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got that's come from these fresh crafts,
like Velcro and things like that. He
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does the Nexus magazine.
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00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
446
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,620
And interesting guy. I've given some
lectures and he's been there and very
447
00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:18,060
interesting to listen to. And then the
stuff that you're talking about, maybe
448
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:21,360
later he would probably know more than I
do about that because he's researched
449
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
it. But most of what happens to me is
what happens to me.
450
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,960
Yes. So I can't really give you proper
answers on other things, only my
451
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Have you come across other people who've
had similar experiences to you? Never.
452
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Never? No.
453
00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:41,280
No, there's nobody that I can say, like
I was saying to you earlier, that can
454
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,780
say that their father used to go to a
certain place every morning to meet
455
00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:49,100
extraterrestrials, which I found out
recently.
456
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Do you think your father was an
extraterrestrial?
457
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:59,260
I don't know. There was one lady that I
did a TV, and she told me
458
00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:01,680
I was part of an experiment that
happened back in the 40s.
459
00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:05,670
Now I've found out the background of
this lady. I think she's dreaming.
460
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:08,330
Unless you've got the real proof.
461
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:10,850
I've got all the proof of what happened
to me happened.
462
00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:14,490
So when I talk about other things, I've
got no proof of. It could just be
463
00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:15,710
hearsay, if you like.
464
00:31:16,030 --> 00:31:19,210
And I can't write too much into what
other people say about me. Because a lot
465
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:20,210
people say, well, I'm like you.
466
00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:22,190
No, you're not. You wouldn't want to be
like me.
467
00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:24,350
Why are you like me? You're like me that
I'm a human being.
468
00:31:24,730 --> 00:31:25,850
But you wouldn't want to be me.
469
00:31:26,390 --> 00:31:29,250
My wife would tell you that. You
wouldn't want to be me.
470
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400
I'm telling you, you just wouldn't.
Because all the weird things that happen
471
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,400
me, it's hard to control.
472
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,680
But I've met some people, some famous
people, which maybe I can't name names
473
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,680
because of the TV.
474
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,300
No, that's fine. But one particular
celebrity who's a comedian, and the
475
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:50,520
he told me, and he had an experience
when he was about seven, and he predicts
476
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,680
things, he heals people, he sees things,
but he can't contain it. And he's
477
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,140
permanently on drugs because of it.
478
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:22,220
I did a radio show with Reg Presley, I
think it was Capital Radio, and they
479
00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:25,800
said, how do you get these messages? And
Reg said, well, they usually contact me
480
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,160
through my mobile phone and I hand it
over to Terry so he can talk to them.
481
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:32,880
And we said, well, it's not nothing like
that.
482
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,140
It's just knowing something and acting
on what you know.
483
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,520
So I'm not going to get a voice in my
head saying, it's 10 o 'clock, it's
484
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,200
time we got out of bed, because I know
it isn't.
485
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:43,820
I want to get up at 11 o 'clock.
486
00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:46,880
But I don't get nothing like that.
487
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,340
I might get some visions, which can
happen any time. Yeah.
488
00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:54,960
Some disaster or something happens.
Because you have had quite a few,
489
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,560
you? Yeah. Yeah, there's that sort of
thing.
490
00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:59,180
But to explain how it really happens, I
don't know.
491
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,720
It's just part of me, you know. And to
me, it's not weird or anything like
492
00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:08,720
You know, I don't, you know, if I cut
myself, it bleeds. Or if I get a cold, I
493
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,720
get a cold.
494
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:14,610
But the thing on the healing side of it,
I don't claim to heal anybody.
495
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:17,290
I don't claim that. They claim it, not
me.
496
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:22,610
So I don't put, say... But you help
people with their healing process.
497
00:33:23,030 --> 00:33:26,390
I think about people, you know. You
know, I think about them when they was
498
00:33:26,390 --> 00:33:28,090
and sort of do it that way.
499
00:33:28,290 --> 00:33:29,910
But not everybody, you know.
500
00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:35,370
So do you think that your... Well, you
don't call them your around friends.
501
00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:36,370
do you call them then?
502
00:33:36,530 --> 00:33:37,530
I don't call them anything.
503
00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:38,870
They're just part of me.
504
00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:42,070
An extended part of me, I suppose, like
my spiritual self. Do you call them your
505
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:45,590
extraterrestrial? No. You don't call
them anything? No, no.
506
00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:48,130
No, nothing at all.
507
00:33:48,550 --> 00:33:52,290
I've got a name on it. But if you have
to refer to them, how do you refer to
508
00:33:52,290 --> 00:33:55,810
them? Well, now I'd say it's a spiritual
me.
509
00:33:56,590 --> 00:34:00,490
Okay. Another me, like we've said
earlier on, like it's a replica of
510
00:34:00,490 --> 00:34:05,830
somewhere else, you know, that can make
these things happen.
511
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:14,179
So if you've got contact with Orion,
what do you think it's like on
512
00:34:14,179 --> 00:34:15,179
their planet?
513
00:34:15,460 --> 00:34:16,520
I've thought about that.
514
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:19,560
Yeah, loads of times. Do you know how
they dream? What do you think their
515
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,440
buildings are like or how they live?
516
00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:26,480
Do you know how they dream or things?
And I think this must be the street that
517
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,540
they live in. You know, it might be
somewhere like a nice town or something.
518
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,840
But then I get all...
519
00:34:32,090 --> 00:34:35,230
a bit fed up a few days later because
i've been in the car we go somewhere
520
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:38,750
that's the town that i dreamt about and
i think oh god it's not where they live
521
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:45,449
it's here you know now so i don't know i
can only imagine things you know but it
522
00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:49,130
wouldn't be right would it that i'm
imagining that and it's not real you
523
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:53,230
maybe they go around like um like a
ghost or something and they go
524
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,540
All the time.
525
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,560
Well, you believe, because your back's
been healed, that their technology is so
526
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,500
much more advanced. So they wouldn't be
driving around in cars and flying around
527
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:10,140
in planes and using petrol like we do.
Maybe it's a very tranquil place that
528
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,600
they just sit there playing cards all
day or something.
529
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Do you think they're sort of... Well,
you said when you seen the boy who took
530
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,700
you into the building that he looked
like you.
531
00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:28,100
but would that have just been an image
that he would have projected for you? Do
532
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:32,640
you think they'd be more of like an
etheric being, like a lighter type of
533
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:38,380
Not quite a ghost -like, but not as
dense as what a human being is. Well,
534
00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:43,120
one that I did see that came into the
bedroom that time was quite a normal
535
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,120
-looking person.
536
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,940
But whether there's a trick there, and
that was a hologram or something, or
537
00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:52,500
something like that, I don't know, but
to me that was real.
538
00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:56,090
But if it was a spiritual thing, maybe
there's no body attached.
539
00:35:56,950 --> 00:36:01,250
I mean, I don't know. I don't want to go
down that path and start imagining all
540
00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:05,310
sorts of things and driving myself
around the bend, you know. I don't think
541
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:06,129
would be fair to me.
542
00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:08,610
So I try to accept what happens to me
happens.
543
00:36:09,590 --> 00:36:15,550
And then not, I think if I knew too
much, then it would all go wrong, you
544
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,620
I just try to look at things as I can.
Are you happy to have these experiences
545
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:32,160
all the time? Whether I'm happy or not,
I've got them.
546
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,280
Sometimes I'm not.
547
00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:39,640
Could you give us an example when you've
not been happy?
548
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,160
If it's not too personal.
549
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:43,340
Yeah, because it can be embarrassing.
550
00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:50,400
Where I was living before, there was me,
Diane, and a friend.
551
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:54,320
A lady friend of Diane's. And we was
watching the television.
552
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:59,730
I said, oh, look at them poor children.
That coach has left the road and gone
553
00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:01,450
into a tree. It's on the news on the
telly.
554
00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,930
But the news wasn't on the TV, but
that's what I could see.
555
00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:07,950
I said, them poor children, some of them
have died, you know, it's terrible.
556
00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:11,650
And this lady said, but you're not
watching the news, you're watching
557
00:37:11,650 --> 00:37:12,770
programme, so what are you talking
about?
558
00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:17,870
I said, I've just seen this coach leave
the road and go into a tree.
559
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:21,970
And she rang me about an hour later and
she got the news on. She said, that just
560
00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:23,670
happened. How did you know it happened
before it happened?
561
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,440
So that then, that does annoy me, to
think that why should it be so precise
562
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,620
that moment that I have to blurt it out.
563
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:37,940
My grandson's very psychic, and I said
to him, just don't say anything to
564
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:38,940
anybody.
565
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:42,960
Don't tell them anything, don't say
anything, just let it go, you know. And
566
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,780
try to do that a lot, but I do,
sometimes I think it's important that I
567
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:53,200
illness in somebody, I would advise them
to see a doctor, or, you know, or to
568
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,580
see a specialist about it.
569
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:59,400
And I've done it on quite a few
occasions, and the results come back
570
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,180
thank me that there was something wrong.
Well, that's it, you've found
571
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:05,940
something. But you've got to remember
that this might be something, because
572
00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:11,800
have a very sensitive thing to their
owners and to other people. I was just
573
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,340
sitting in the barber's the other day,
and a dog came up and started licking my
574
00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:15,340
hand because I cut him.
575
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,900
And they're supposed to have an
antiseptic in their tongue.
576
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,660
Yeah, I've heard that actually. And one
dog's owner kept licking him on his leg,
577
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:23,860
and he had cancer there.
578
00:38:24,350 --> 00:38:29,130
And they found it. I've heard that dogs
can pick up cancerous cells. So maybe
579
00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:33,110
I've got that ability to pick up on
people, put it in a different light.
580
00:38:33,110 --> 00:38:34,009
a dog, really.
581
00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:35,010
Yeah, I know.
582
00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:47,970
Now, you've had quite an experience with
something called the time machine.
583
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:51,490
In Bath, if... You could just share that
story.
584
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:52,990
Well,
585
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:58,690
it was a few years ago when I started
trying to find out what this thing was
586
00:38:58,690 --> 00:39:02,950
about and people's experiences. And
maybe I meet somebody with a similar
587
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:03,950
experience, you know.
588
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:08,130
And then I was giving lectures for UFO
groups.
589
00:39:08,450 --> 00:39:12,530
And I came across this. Well, they rung
me up this group over at Cambly and
590
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:14,890
said, would I give a talk for them? I
said, yeah, sure, do that.
591
00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:16,130
So I did.
592
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:19,900
And then a few weeks later they rang me,
and we all got friends, and they said,
593
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,140
we'd like to take you down to Bath to
show you the time machine.
594
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:25,700
And I thought, right.
595
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,980
And I said, Diane, I think we might have
hit the jackpot here. These people have
596
00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:29,980
really lost it.
597
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:34,040
And so I thought, well, we'll have a go.
598
00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:41,080
So we drove down there the first time,
and the chap's car actually broke down
599
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,038
the way down there.
600
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,100
And they all thought it was a bad omen
or something, you know, these people.
601
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,200
and I just thought, no, your gearbox is
gone.
602
00:39:47,980 --> 00:39:49,460
So we didn't make the first trip.
603
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Then the second trip came around, and so
we went down there, not knowing what to
604
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,600
expect. Now, if you can imagine a
private terrace house, this is the end
605
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,480
house in Bath.
606
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,240
Very, very tiny house.
607
00:40:03,580 --> 00:40:07,440
It was on the left -hand side, and so we
went up to the door.
608
00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:12,440
They knocked on the door, and this guy
came to the door, and they went in there
609
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,440
pretty fast.
610
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,760
But I didn't, because I didn't know I
had to.
611
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,720
And the guy literally pulled me in the
door.
612
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:20,240
Why?
613
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:26,300
Because when you went in there, the
thing opened up to a big massive hall, a
614
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,040
room, which wasn't possible for a small
town like that.
615
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,260
Are we talking tardive like here? Yeah,
like a tardive. Oh, OK.
616
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,300
And the reason he pulled me through, he
said, if you don't do that, you'll be
617
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:37,300
sick.
618
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:40,740
It'll just make you sick. So he just
whipped me in there.
619
00:40:41,380 --> 00:40:45,940
So... Then I looked all around, very,
very curious at the place.
620
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,000
He had lots of antiques in there.
621
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:55,020
Then he had what he called the healing
machine, which was like a table you'd do
622
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:56,020
operations on.
623
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,640
You've got the pictures of that, haven't
you? Yeah, you'd look at people on if
624
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,538
they weren't very well.
625
00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:06,760
And over the top of it was like a big
massive bright light.
626
00:41:07,610 --> 00:41:12,450
where he told me there was £250 ,000
worth of precious gemstones in there
627
00:41:12,450 --> 00:41:13,650
big helium lights at the back.
628
00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:17,670
People have since said that it was
impossible because those helium lights
629
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:19,790
probably radiate you. It wasn't healthy.
630
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:21,270
Worse than going on the sunbed.
631
00:41:23,330 --> 00:41:27,470
So then he was explaining how it worked
and I said, where did you get the idea
632
00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:29,970
from? He said, well, I wanted to meet
you, he said, because...
633
00:41:30,810 --> 00:41:33,510
I'd read your book and you talk about
Orion, etc.
634
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:37,270
He said, I had an experience, he said,
that I met these people from Orion.
635
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:40,650
I'd been in their ship and they gave me
the blueprints of this machine.
636
00:41:41,350 --> 00:41:45,230
And I had to go to Hewlett -Packard to
tell them to build this machine.
637
00:41:45,830 --> 00:41:49,650
Well, this was like back in the 60s, the
early 60s, that this happened to him.
638
00:41:51,730 --> 00:41:56,150
And I had heard that Hewlett -Packard,
when they started, their idea was to
639
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:57,150
build a time machine.
640
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Then it sort of ended with computers.
641
00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:04,840
So maybe this is part. But they built a
computer for him, which he had there.
642
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:07,700
And he put an audio tape in his
computer.
643
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,500
And the most weird things happened.
644
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,960
So he said, but with this machine, this
healing machine, he was charging like
645
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,700
£20 an hour. But he was taking more
electric than that, I think.
646
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,340
I actually shoved my agent on there
because he had migraine.
647
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,140
And we put him on there. And it did help
him. It helped him. But he said he'd
648
00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:29,280
had loads and loads of famous people
there.
649
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Maggie Thatcher.
650
00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:34,160
But he had a book that they'd all
signed. Okay.
651
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,820
Okay. Did you have a peek?
652
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:39,460
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He had a look, yeah. And
they were. They'd all signed the book.
653
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:47,320
And he said that he had this... The
other end of the room was this big dome
654
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,080
in the ceiling, which he said was a time
travel machine.
655
00:42:52,810 --> 00:42:55,330
And I thought, well, we'll have a go at
that one. There was something unusual
656
00:42:55,330 --> 00:42:56,850
about the dome, wasn't there? Yeah.
657
00:42:57,150 --> 00:43:00,730
I, being a bit curious, asked him if I
could use his toilet.
658
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:05,790
But what I did, I went upstairs over
this room to see where the dome came up
659
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:06,428
the room.
660
00:43:06,430 --> 00:43:09,970
Now, the dome should have gone through
the room, I would have thought, at
661
00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:12,130
I don't know, maybe getting on for three
feet.
662
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:16,330
OK. Now, I know the distance between the
ceilings is not that, because I worked
663
00:43:16,330 --> 00:43:17,330
on the building.
664
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:18,730
So how did he hide that?
665
00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:20,970
But the ceiling level downstairs...
666
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,480
It was constant right the way through.
667
00:43:22,780 --> 00:43:24,780
So the ceiling level was as it is.
668
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:28,120
Now, he got his hand and he went like
that and he put it through the dome.
669
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:31,180
Now, I'm thinking, that's a trick.
670
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,820
He put it actually through the dome of
the ceiling?
671
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,100
Yeah.
672
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,700
Then he said, well, I can, on this
occasion, I won't use the time machine.
673
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,320
But if you come back and we get ready
for it, we can use it.
674
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,900
So I said, well, fair enough.
675
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:51,550
I was looking all around the place, and
it was the most unusual place I've ever
676
00:43:51,550 --> 00:43:55,050
seen. This guy was about 78 years old.
677
00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:58,850
I think his name was Gordon Pringle,
something like that, Pringle, something
678
00:43:58,850 --> 00:43:59,629
like that.
679
00:43:59,630 --> 00:44:03,250
He's passed away now. But this machine
was keeping him alive because he had
680
00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:04,250
kidney problems.
681
00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:09,750
My friend was on their land, and it was
cooking him. He went quite black.
682
00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:13,610
But he said, within 20 minutes of
getting off, you'll come to your normal
683
00:44:13,610 --> 00:44:14,610
colour. Okay.
684
00:44:15,230 --> 00:44:16,230
Which he did.
685
00:44:17,879 --> 00:44:19,060
Don't do a nice turn.
686
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,320
Yeah.
687
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,820
And the second time I visited, I went
down and I explained it to Lionel
688
00:44:27,820 --> 00:44:29,800
Fanthorpe about this thing, and he
wanted to see it.
689
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,680
So I said, I'll get you an invite.
690
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:35,360
So we all met there, and Lionel, his
wife, and one of his daughters.
691
00:44:35,940 --> 00:44:38,300
Sounds a bit like the Famous Five going
on an adventure.
692
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Yeah, well, I said, no, I'm not going.
693
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,540
I think now she's... Although she says I
think she wished she had it done,
694
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,740
because that was an experience.
695
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,920
So the second time we turned up there,
and I took my friend who's a security
696
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,360
person to check the house out, because
he said that they tried to blow his
697
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,560
up, and he had a steel front door and
reinforced windows.
698
00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:00,800
Every time you went in there, he would
pull the blinds, so it was completely
699
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,260
dark in there. Can we just rewind there?
Who tried to blow up his house?
700
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Well, he seems to think it was the
pharmaceutical people.
701
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,120
And how did they try to do that? Because
they sell drugs.
702
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:11,140
I don't know.
703
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:14,650
But there was explosions. We checked up
and there was explosions in the street
704
00:45:14,650 --> 00:45:16,510
because the people said they'd brought
their windows out.
705
00:45:17,070 --> 00:45:19,050
So something did happen, take place
there.
706
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:26,230
So anyway, so my friend is actually
checking the place out to see how secure
707
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:27,230
was, and it was.
708
00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:31,790
And he was curious about this dome in
the ceiling, where did it go to, etc.
709
00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:33,690
Who built the dome?
710
00:45:33,970 --> 00:45:34,970
I don't know.
711
00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:36,090
Hewlett -Packard, I suppose.
712
00:45:36,430 --> 00:45:39,150
Because we know Hewlett -Packard built
the machine. I don't know. He never
713
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,820
That would have been interesting to know
who did the dome.
714
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,580
It's all taken away now.
715
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,500
Perhaps it's gone somewhere in time.
716
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Perhaps they use it on Doctor Who.
717
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,300
Who knows?
718
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,180
Anyway, so we sat round.
719
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,220
Government. The government must have it.
Do you think so? Yeah.
720
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,420
Anyway, we sat round underneath this
dome.
721
00:46:00,420 --> 00:46:03,940
And he played this music, like the 60s
music.
722
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,020
And I thought, no big deal. I ain't
going anywhere.
723
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Then the next thing, I'm in Rome.
724
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,880
I'm there.
725
00:46:12,260 --> 00:46:17,520
And, I mean, I'm sure, I don't know, I'm
sure that maybe they couldn't see me.
726
00:46:17,780 --> 00:46:18,780
Maybe it was a dream.
727
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:21,960
But then it would seem so real. But I've
been to Rome.
728
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,740
I've been to the places there. So maybe
because I've been there, I knew what it
729
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:30,620
was like. But then I've gone to places I
didn't recognise in Rome.
730
00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:32,660
And they were doing some building work
there.
731
00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:34,840
And then...
732
00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:37,080
How do you mean? Modern day or old? Old.
733
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,320
Okay.
734
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,520
Then the next thing is that we're sort
of all dozy looking at each other, and
735
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,840
asked questions, what happened, and we
all said, yeah, we've been to Rome.
736
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,340
All said the same thing. All had been to
Rome. Yeah.
737
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:54,940
I don't know whether... Dino doesn't
seem to think he was there for that
738
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:59,060
experience. I'm not sure, so I can't say
whether he did or not, really. Do you
739
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:01,700
know what the time period was when you
were supposed to be there? No.
740
00:47:03,370 --> 00:47:07,930
No. No, I don't know at all, but it was
old, you know? Edie? I don't know.
741
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:14,390
So then we were just sitting there and
we thought, we were just talking about
742
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:19,450
things. Then the chap that owned the
place, he said, oh, I think it's time
743
00:47:19,450 --> 00:47:20,450
left now, it's getting on.
744
00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:22,730
Now, we got there from around about
12ish.
745
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:28,150
Midday? Yeah. Okay. Now we're talking,
maybe an hour we spent, but now we're
746
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:29,410
talking at six o 'clock in the evening.
747
00:47:29,610 --> 00:47:31,330
So where were we for that five hours?
748
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:33,600
you know, that was gone.
749
00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:35,340
When we came out, it was dark.
750
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:36,940
We came out, it was dark.
751
00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:39,740
And we felt a little bit tired and a bit
groggy, you know.
752
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:43,000
And coming back home in the drive, he
even said, he said, I just don't feel
753
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,440
right, you know. And we said, well, we
pulled over into a cafe and had a cup of
754
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,220
tea and sort of dealt with it until we
got our senses back to us.
755
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,060
So that happened.
756
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,920
Then I've heard that people have gone
down there and have tried to steal
757
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,738
from him.
758
00:47:57,740 --> 00:48:00,940
Oh, that's horrible. Yeah, all sorts of
things. And trying to get the idea of
759
00:48:00,940 --> 00:48:01,940
what goes on.
760
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:06,300
There's another one, another machine my
publishers found at the bottom of the
761
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:07,300
Pyrenees.
762
00:48:08,140 --> 00:48:09,380
What, the same as this one?
763
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:12,140
No. There's a group of people there.
764
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,920
I forget what they call themselves now,
but they're self -sufficient, and they
765
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,320
sell, like, pasta to Harrods and things
like that. But it was an insurance guy
766
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,900
that made a load of money and built into
this mountain and put this big glass
767
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:24,900
thing in there.
768
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:29,590
And introduced this time machine, which
apparently was working.
769
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:34,830
Well, funny enough, that was going to be
my next question was, do you know of
770
00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:35,589
any others?
771
00:48:35,590 --> 00:48:39,410
And there was supposed to be one in
Russia and one in Sweden.
772
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:45,990
I mean, it was interesting when my son,
when he was working for this company,
773
00:48:46,170 --> 00:48:50,030
and one of the chaps come in and said,
he'd just been to Sweden.
774
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:52,350
And he said, he'd been to this place.
775
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:55,860
And he said, I saw some strange lights
in that guy.
776
00:48:56,180 --> 00:48:58,880
He said, then they came in bigger. And
he said, it was like big craft.
777
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:03,100
He said, we all got frightened. And we
went into the hotel and was looking out
778
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,520
the windows. And the people in the hotel
said, you have to be frightened.
779
00:49:05,620 --> 00:49:08,300
They're coming all the time. They've
come from stars to see us.
780
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:11,940
And they would go to the village and
talk to the children in the village.
781
00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:14,620
And they were blue -eyed with blonde
hair as well.
782
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,300
I mean, I was looking back at the time
machine here.
783
00:49:19,340 --> 00:49:20,340
If they're...
784
00:49:20,570 --> 00:49:24,610
This chap in Bath had this one in his
house, and there's supposed to be others
785
00:49:24,610 --> 00:49:30,410
in the Pyrenees, but if the government
or others have something like this, and
786
00:49:30,410 --> 00:49:36,850
it's in the wrong hands, the
implications of this are absolutely
787
00:49:36,850 --> 00:49:39,230
things could be taken back.
788
00:49:39,790 --> 00:49:43,030
Well, go back in history or in the
future and things have changed.
789
00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:47,730
I mean, you just need to take out one
person in a timeline and it alters
790
00:49:47,730 --> 00:49:50,830
everything. It's a bit like the film,
isn't it, with the old DeLorean car
791
00:49:50,830 --> 00:49:53,230
into time and back in time and changing
things.
792
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:58,690
Well, they say the ripple effect, I
mean, it could be absolutely huge,
793
00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:02,170
it? Just you change one thing in
history.
794
00:50:02,430 --> 00:50:03,430
It's gone, yeah.
795
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:04,970
It's actually quite dangerous.
796
00:50:05,210 --> 00:50:07,850
And how do we know that it hasn't
happened?
797
00:50:08,110 --> 00:50:12,010
Something could have happened. When you
went to Rome, something could have
798
00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:14,330
happened, couldn't it? Something could
be changed.
799
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:16,230
Yeah, and why did I go to Rome?
800
00:50:16,570 --> 00:50:18,010
I've never wanted to go to Rome.
801
00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:23,410
And then it was just that me and Diane
went to Rome prior to that. Why?
802
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:29,750
Do you know of anybody else who used the
time machine in this chap's house that
803
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:30,770
went anywhere else?
804
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:36,570
The only story that I heard from the guy
that owned it was that he sent somebody
805
00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:42,750
back in time, but when he came back to
our time, he was badly bruised and been
806
00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:45,010
beaten up, and he had to take him to
hospital.
807
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:50,050
And they couldn't explain to the
hospital what happened, but he knew that
808
00:50:50,050 --> 00:50:51,050
been attacked.
809
00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:55,630
Where? I don't know the story. You
wouldn't tell me. He just said, you
810
00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:56,730
it's very dangerous.
811
00:50:57,530 --> 00:50:59,490
Exactly. Well, that's what I was
thinking.
812
00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:00,790
What if...
813
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,640
If someone had gone into the time
machine, not that I want to put a damper
814
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,900
this because it sounds like a fantastic
experience, but they actually died in
815
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,160
their experience, something had happened
like this trap.
816
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600
I mean, that again must have some
implications. Well, I'm thinking on that
817
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,640
feeling that I'm there, but these people
are ignoring me.
818
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:26,550
You know, I've got my normal clothes on.
That would be questionable, wouldn't
819
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:31,470
it? Well, yeah. So you're saying they
can't see you? Maybe there's two things
820
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:35,550
here, because he said, if I put this
other audio tape on, it's different to
821
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:40,370
one I'm putting on. So maybe there's one
that you actually are there, you know?
822
00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:42,450
Because he was holding back on a load of
things.
823
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:45,210
So what you're saying is like you're
just an observer.
824
00:51:45,730 --> 00:51:46,910
Yeah. They can't see you.
825
00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:51,050
It's like you're just being a voyeur,
and you can see what is happening at
826
00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:52,050
time.
827
00:51:52,270 --> 00:51:56,950
So it's really like your, I suppose we
could say, psychic eye.
828
00:51:57,210 --> 00:52:01,750
Your psychic eye is seeing it, but your
physical body isn't necessarily there.
829
00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:07,230
That's quite a scary experience. But for
it to happen to six or seven people
830
00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:10,930
with the same story. Yes, well, they've
all tuned in on a frequency.
831
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:15,490
But science is progressing all the time.
832
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,140
And we have no idea really what goes on
behind closed doors.
833
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:22,800
The other one is called Damaha in Italy.
834
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,320
Okay. So that might be worth looking up.
I think it's Damaha. I've actually got
835
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,060
a tape of it, but not in use.
836
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,940
But they went there and they said
there's lots of copper pipe running
837
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:39,200
walls, copper, like big thick copper
stuff around the walls and that.
838
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,260
There's some sort of an earthy thing,
whatever it is, you know. But I think
839
00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:44,480
the ones that we don't know about which
are there.
840
00:52:45,050 --> 00:52:48,570
That other motorway, and why they're
being used. Apparently the Germans had a
841
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:52,430
similar thing, or were delving into it,
and I saw a programme about that, which
842
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:53,590
was quite interesting.
843
00:52:53,810 --> 00:52:55,330
And it reminded me of this guy.
844
00:52:55,530 --> 00:53:00,690
I mean, he was 78 years old, and he was
quite fit for his age, but then we lost
845
00:53:00,690 --> 00:53:05,030
contact, and unfortunately he's passed
away. But where all that stuff's gone, I
846
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:09,830
just don't know. Well, where there's
anything like this, of a new technology,
847
00:53:09,830 --> 00:53:12,490
goes usually into the government's
hands.
848
00:53:12,910 --> 00:53:13,910
Probably.
849
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,360
And that's why I didn't understand why
the ships were half buried in their own
850
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,760
planet. A third of the ships couldn't be
used here. Of course they couldn't.
851
00:53:39,820 --> 00:53:41,200
They were dead inside anyway.
852
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:43,620
And in that case, the entire planet is
dead.
853
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,900
So they were back up, they got there.
854
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:52,000
And that's, you know, they'll never be
used. They'll be there as monuments to
855
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,000
evil culture.
856
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,160
If that's what's happening, we should
find out. Not really, because they're
857
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,158
light years away.
858
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Long time, we can never know.
859
00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:03,640
Unless we know the technology. So they
actually travel through some sort of a
860
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,240
time walker. They can open doors.
861
00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:10,100
They sit there. Within two days of that
going on, they can open doors in the
862
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:11,240
time walk and escape it.
863
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,540
I don't know.
864
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,860
Lancet had those.
865
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,240
Not like that there. Maybe they had a
disc with 12 stones in it.
866
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,240
Two discs there. They were called the
Silmarils.
867
00:54:23,860 --> 00:54:28,320
And then the priests held them. And they
used to use a sun to shine through.
868
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,660
They're big stuff, every little one,
they're big ones.
869
00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:35,380
And they had a limited amount of heat
from them, which was in those days
870
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:38,200
powerful, you know, green magic, Merlin
and all that.
871
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:42,980
And they were in the war apparently, and
according to one of the contacts with
872
00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:47,120
Grand Master, I was one of those that
blew a latches up or had a good hand in
873
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:52,100
it. So they say, this is my tennis, I've
got to put this right there, so it may
874
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:53,100
be right, I don't know.
875
00:54:53,310 --> 00:54:55,330
But it took 50 years to be down.
876
00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:56,530
There's stones.
877
00:54:56,590 --> 00:54:57,590
There's stones.
878
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:59,670
And look under there.
879
00:54:59,910 --> 00:55:01,010
Look underneath that one.
880
00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:03,950
Good grief, that's beautiful, isn't it?
881
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:06,810
Biggest plate of jewels ever put
together in the history of mankind.
882
00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:08,410
In the plate of gold.
883
00:55:09,830 --> 00:55:10,910
That's really beautiful.
884
00:55:11,370 --> 00:55:12,470
That's gold, Tom.
885
00:55:12,770 --> 00:55:13,770
You'll agree.
886
00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:16,470
Yeah.
887
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:17,730
Wow.
888
00:55:18,830 --> 00:55:19,970
What a million pounds.
889
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:24,130
Absolutely gorgeous, isn't it?
890
00:55:24,350 --> 00:55:27,330
The colours coming off of there, yeah.
891
00:55:28,850 --> 00:55:29,850
It's only money, Arthur.
892
00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:31,050
Yeah.
893
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:33,550
It's not, it's energy.
894
00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:37,130
That's it, I mean, what are you, you
know, money's not important, that is.
895
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:39,030
it is. It's amazing what you can do.
Yeah.
896
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:41,870
Well,
897
00:55:41,930 --> 00:55:45,950
me going there to be with Kat, if you
look at me, and we've, um, we've played,
898
00:55:45,950 --> 00:55:50,630
we've paid out the houses, Dr Carson and
I, it's a good moment, and, um, put the
899
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:51,750
mic right by the way, kind of thing.
900
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,800
And they took one look and said, oh,
come and look at that sort of thing. He
901
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,800
said, oh, yes, you can.
902
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,820
But we, well, which one? That one?
903
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,160
You only don't write, do you?
904
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,260
But I wouldn't mind getting this within
a second.
905
00:56:09,740 --> 00:56:13,380
Does it work on the energy field in some
way? I don't know what. You don't know,
906
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,900
really. What is it? It's a mix.
907
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,280
Many other things.
908
00:56:20,330 --> 00:56:21,330
Lockham Palace.
909
00:56:21,590 --> 00:56:22,590
Lockham Palace.
910
00:56:23,890 --> 00:56:24,890
Chris Patton.
911
00:56:25,150 --> 00:56:26,590
All of them were in it. Mrs. Patter.
912
00:56:28,310 --> 00:56:29,690
Down in the street.
913
00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:31,530
But it didn't have to be anywhere.
914
00:56:32,110 --> 00:56:33,690
Yeah. Too good.
915
00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:34,930
Above and below.
916
00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:37,170
Can you see it in there?
917
00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:41,350
No, it looks as though you're behind it.
Does it? Yeah, come forward.
918
00:56:41,770 --> 00:56:44,710
Well, I am right forward of it. Yeah,
come forward more.
919
00:56:45,070 --> 00:56:47,470
Well, I am now two foot in front of it
still.
920
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:52,100
It still looks as though your hands are
becoming big. But I can actually feel.
921
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,220
Yeah, you can. It's a wonderful thing.
922
00:56:55,420 --> 00:56:57,300
It's fantastic, isn't it? It really is.
923
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,080
Put your hands under that one.
924
00:57:02,380 --> 00:57:08,440
Yeah, that is... That is something else.
That doesn't feel... Yeah, you're going
925
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,500
to have to just... I'll see you.
926
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,120
I'll see you soon, mate.
927
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,340
Get rid of... What's it called?
928
00:57:14,740 --> 00:57:16,120
It's either acrylic or it's...
929
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:37,140
On Monday evening I was with a guy who
is very, he is a healer, and
930
00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:38,180
he's also,
931
00:57:39,460 --> 00:57:42,840
he's a bit of a bad boy and all the rest
of it.
932
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,320
And I was talking to him.
933
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:51,440
There's another friend of mine who
makes, he's got a camera, you know the
934
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:58,500
the ordinary video camera, and they have
a program which they use, and they're
935
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:00,700
trying to look at the aura.
936
00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:06,740
It's like the energy field around you,
but using a video camera. I'm sure it
937
00:58:07,460 --> 00:58:11,920
Similar sort of thing, but not quite the
same.
938
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:17,780
It's not the sort of principle, but the
idea is to try and see what is around
939
00:58:17,780 --> 00:58:24,780
you. Four years ago, another friend of
mine who I met while I was down here,
940
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,880
he came along to understand color.
941
00:58:34,180 --> 00:58:37,960
A computer fan to keep the computer
cool.
942
00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:41,800
It's an old computer I put in there over
20 years ago.
943
00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:51,490
And you're working on a new book, aren't
you, Terry?
944
00:58:51,830 --> 00:58:54,510
Well, we have been for about the last 20
years.
945
00:58:56,170 --> 00:58:57,650
You're taking it home.
946
00:58:58,190 --> 00:59:03,210
This one is to do, funnily enough, about
how you can travel from planets, you
947
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:08,130
know, and different things that will
throw you from one planet to another and
948
00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:12,430
maybe the way that they bend in space.
But there was a guy now, I'll tell you
949
00:59:12,430 --> 00:59:15,670
this, there was a guy, I got a phone
call from a guy who puts all those
950
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:16,638
out in space.
951
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,840
and he works for this university in
Guildford.
952
00:59:19,180 --> 00:59:23,900
He's very, very clever. And they wanted
to do a 3D picture of the Earth, and
953
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:24,900
he'd done it with mirrors.
954
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:26,760
You know, he's a clever person.
955
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,440
And I gave a talk once, and I was
talking about how you can finish up.
956
00:59:32,700 --> 00:59:36,060
Because the stars are nearer than what
we think they are, and they can finish
957
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:37,220
there quicker, OK?
958
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,880
But we are drifting away from the stars
now.
959
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:43,180
Within years, they're going to be so
distant.
960
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,350
So I was explaining... how you can
travel.
961
00:59:46,930 --> 00:59:52,910
And if you were to travel out in space,
there are things out there like gravity
962
00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:57,210
that will slow you down because of the
wind from the planets. It causes the
963
00:59:57,210 --> 00:59:58,149
gravity.
964
00:59:58,150 --> 01:00:01,190
And this guy said, well, I don't think
so, you know.
965
01:00:01,650 --> 01:00:04,170
Anyway, so I get a call from this guy
called Arthur.
966
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:07,930
And he said, the guy who works for the
BBC, I think he was called Cook or
967
01:00:07,930 --> 01:00:09,470
somebody, has done this report.
968
01:00:09,850 --> 01:00:13,270
And they're wondering why one of the
satellites is not moving on, it's
969
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:15,570
buffeting. But they found out it's
buffeting against gravity.
970
01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:20,850
So you would need a magnetic energy to
get through that, to get through that,
971
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:23,010
which these guys from the stars can do.
972
01:00:23,690 --> 01:00:27,510
So he said, he's prepared to send you
the report and you can use it in your
973
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:28,510
book. So I've got his report.
974
01:00:29,310 --> 01:00:32,850
So I can do, if the book comes out, I
can do all sorts of things, you know.
975
01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:38,350
There was an airline pilot locally in
Crowthorne that I met, was told to keep
976
01:00:38,350 --> 01:00:39,650
quiet, mustn't say anything.
977
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,620
And I happened to be on a small
aeroplane with one of my friends.
978
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,680
And she brought him along with us. And
she said, this is Captain so -and -so.
979
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,220
Worked for British Airways and worked
for somebody else.
980
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,680
And he's had an experience and wants to
talk to you.
981
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,640
And his experience was that he was
coming into Heathrow.
982
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,740
He said, we were quite a bit out, but
that was our course in Heathrow.
983
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,760
He said, and two crafts come across the
front of the aeroplane.
984
01:01:05,260 --> 01:01:06,440
He said, and we saw them.
985
01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:09,320
He said, within a few seconds, he said.
986
01:01:09,980 --> 01:01:14,040
The people on the aeroplane could see
these things, but they couldn't make out
987
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,040
just what they were.
988
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,280
He said, but we know what they were
because we've seen them before.
989
01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:20,200
He said, then they come across the front
of us again.
990
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,960
He said, then they come left to right,
and then they just shut off.
991
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:28,500
He said, I had to do a report when I got
back, but I was told not to tell
992
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:29,500
anybody anything.
993
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,560
He said, when I retire in two years'
time, here's my card. He said, you come
994
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,560
see me, and if you want to put that in
the book, I'll tell you exactly what
995
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,360
happened, times, places, and everything.
996
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,880
Since the book was out, I've had loads
of people come forward, loads of
997
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,980
celebrities and loads of people,
military people, that told me stories
998
01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:51,720
only convinced me that what happened to
me was real, it was true.
999
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,580
It had to be, you know?
1000
01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:55,400
So that's the good side of it.
1001
01:01:56,020 --> 01:01:57,960
So I can sleep at night not worrying.
1002
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,620
Well, you know your truth, don't you?
1003
01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:01,860
Yeah.
1004
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:07,420
So, on a final thought, just before we
finish, two questions, I guess.
1005
01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:12,410
Do you think that we will have mass
alien contact soon?
1006
01:02:13,030 --> 01:02:18,450
And if you do, do you think it will be
like close encounters or will it be like
1007
01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:20,330
independency, friend or foe?
1008
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:22,690
So it will be like mashing your potato
up?
1009
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:26,790
Or blowing up the White House? Will they
come in peace?
1010
01:02:27,450 --> 01:02:28,630
What do you think?
1011
01:02:29,050 --> 01:02:32,230
Well, the only experience I've had has
been peaceful, beneficial.
1012
01:02:32,490 --> 01:02:33,910
Somebody said once, well...
1013
01:02:34,330 --> 01:02:37,930
If you've been on board a UFO and this
happened, why don't you bring something
1014
01:02:37,930 --> 01:02:41,270
back? I suppose you go into hospital and
have an operation, you don't go around
1015
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:42,270
nicking things, do you?
1016
01:02:42,490 --> 01:02:47,950
Under them circumstances, what am I
supposed to do? I've brought back an
1017
01:02:47,950 --> 01:02:49,470
operation which I'm very grateful for.
1018
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:52,990
That's what I've brought back. You've
brought back a new body. Yeah, that's
1019
01:02:52,990 --> 01:02:55,290
I've brought back. And you're grateful
at that? Yeah.
1020
01:02:56,830 --> 01:03:02,090
You can't... I suppose really some
people, when they don't believe these
1021
01:03:02,170 --> 01:03:03,170
it's very difficult.
1022
01:03:03,710 --> 01:03:05,170
But why should I have to explain myself?
1023
01:03:05,790 --> 01:03:08,510
Well, you don't have to. I don't have
to, do I? You believe it or you don't. I
1024
01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:09,348
really don't care.
1025
01:03:09,350 --> 01:03:10,350
I'm past that.
1026
01:03:10,970 --> 01:03:15,930
I never went into that anyway. Because
I'm so convinced all the way through my
1027
01:03:15,930 --> 01:03:17,950
life that I didn't have to prove
anything to anybody.
1028
01:03:18,290 --> 01:03:21,190
I've got all the x -rays and things for
my own benefit.
1029
01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:23,070
And my blood tests for my own benefit.
1030
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:25,530
You know, that's what really happened.
1031
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:27,890
But at the end of the day...
1032
01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:32,460
it's benefited your life and the people
around you. It's made it easier for me
1033
01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:33,319
to understand.
1034
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,800
Exactly. I don't have to go looking.
1035
01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:38,560
It happens for a reason, whether you
know what the reason is or not.
1036
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,140
Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Like I say in the
book, I don't think I'm here to save the
1037
01:03:43,140 --> 01:03:45,820
world, or they are, but I think they're
keeping a very close eye on it.
1038
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,840
You know, I mean, when you see, like,
bent waters, what happened up there, and
1039
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,180
they disarmed all the nuclear warheads,
you know, and they were in this country.
1040
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,380
We didn't even know they were in this
country. Our government didn't even know
1041
01:03:55,380 --> 01:03:57,340
they were in this country, you know.
1042
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,620
And when you see these, like the things
on UFOs, which I watch on the telly
1043
01:04:01,620 --> 01:04:04,980
sometimes, and when these guys are
around, they're always doing good
1044
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,480
You know, apart from the little guys
that go around probing you, I don't
1045
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,880
And on that probing note, thank you so
much, Terry, for your time. It's been
1046
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:21,220
absolutely fascinating, the experiences
that you've had, and I'd love to be able
1047
01:04:21,220 --> 01:04:22,220
to have some of them myself.
1048
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,279
Maybe you will.
1049
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:23,939
I do.
1050
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:26,580
Thanks for taking your time out. Thank
you so much.
1051
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,160
Cheers.
1052
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,020
Hello there and welcome to Gardeners
World.
1053
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,940
Thanks for joining me. I just want to
say one thing to all the people at Edge.
1054
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:54,820
Well done. I think it's a fantastic
thing you're all doing.
1055
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,320
Now tonight on Gardeners World, we're
going to have a special show because
1056
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,320
going to have some music.
1057
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,740
A good friend of mine, Nick Ashron, who
is actually a musician, an award
1058
01:07:05,740 --> 01:07:10,200
-winning writer and presenter and
artist.
1059
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,780
So this is going to be an interesting
show.
1060
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,260
Nick has made...
1061
01:07:15,580 --> 01:07:22,000
Many albums. This one in particular is a
really nice collection of his work.
1062
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,320
It's called Nick Akron Selections, and
it's got different songs from various
1063
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,180
albums that he's produced over the
years.
1064
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,020
And these are some of the different
albums that he's done.
1065
01:07:31,340 --> 01:07:36,840
He's done it with himself and with his
own band known as Elfin Spiral, where he
1066
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:42,560
regularly has guest artists and female
artists on there. So it's really
1067
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:43,560
fascinating stuff.
1068
01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:50,200
And Nick's book, By the Light of the
Star, tells us all about his life,
1069
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,160
it's a fascinating life, isn't it, Nick?
1070
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,940
Nick, thank you for coming on the show.
1071
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,160
Thank you for having me. Really
appreciate it, my friend. Pleasure.
1072
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,300
Thank you. Now, a little introduction.
That cannot do you justice, because your
1073
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:06,180
history, I know, is a remarkable one and
very varied.
1074
01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:10,740
And before we get into some of the
things that you do now, just tell us a
1075
01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:13,060
bit about your varied past.
1076
01:08:13,610 --> 01:08:18,090
my varied past well i suppose they have
to go right back to the very early
1077
01:08:18,090 --> 01:08:25,029
beginning of really with the seeds for
what i'm doing now um and this
1078
01:08:25,029 --> 01:08:31,310
occurred when i was eight years old
there i was eight years old and i'm
1079
01:08:31,310 --> 01:08:35,350
in a comp and we used to have compulsory
religious education classes
1080
01:08:37,010 --> 01:08:40,109
Most of the time I used to stare out the
window. I just wanted to be in the
1081
01:08:40,109 --> 01:08:44,250
trees because I used to spend all my
childhood in trees. I loved being in
1082
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:50,550
nature. But my attention was drawn to
back into the classroom when they were
1083
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:56,529
talking about an individual that went
around healing people and had such an
1084
01:08:56,529 --> 01:08:58,290
immense amount of love and compassion.
1085
01:08:58,689 --> 01:09:04,450
And something really just triggered
inside me that was really profound.
1086
01:09:06,189 --> 01:09:10,029
That's what I want to do. At that age?
At that age. At eight years old? At
1087
01:09:10,029 --> 01:09:12,390
years old, yeah. Interesting, isn't it?
It is.
1088
01:09:12,689 --> 01:09:17,630
It's almost like, I start the beginning
of the book by saying that
1089
01:09:17,630 --> 01:09:24,490
it's like we do have an inner knowing,
but
1090
01:09:24,490 --> 01:09:29,130
we don't actually know what it is we
know. And our journey, to a large
1091
01:09:29,210 --> 01:09:31,689
is discovering actually what we already
know.
1092
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:37,520
But in the process of that, we discover,
if you like, how things are not in
1093
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,939
order to then find out how things are.
And that kind of thing has been how my
1094
01:09:41,939 --> 01:09:42,898
journey has been.
1095
01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:47,779
And from that early age of eight,
obviously I'm thinking, you know, I
1096
01:09:47,779 --> 01:09:48,459
any different.
1097
01:09:48,460 --> 01:09:51,060
You know, they're talking about a guy
that goes down healing and I'm going,
1098
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:52,180
I want to do that.
1099
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,060
So how and where?
1100
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:02,460
Now, because the source that was
presenting that information was
1101
01:10:02,460 --> 01:10:05,060
the church, I thought I'll start going
to church.
1102
01:10:06,030 --> 01:10:07,550
natural thing to do.
1103
01:10:08,150 --> 01:10:11,930
And yet I used to go and I'd look around
and I'd think, where are the people
1104
01:10:11,930 --> 01:10:12,930
doing the healing?
1105
01:10:13,330 --> 01:10:17,690
And I'd actually question either the
priests or the reverends and I'd
1106
01:10:17,690 --> 01:10:20,490
go up and I'd say to them, where are the
people doing healing?
1107
01:10:21,330 --> 01:10:22,950
In the straightforward Church of
England?
1108
01:10:23,410 --> 01:10:26,690
Yeah, yeah, in the Church of England.
And I'd just get the response,
1109
01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:29,130
no, only Jesus could heal.
1110
01:10:29,670 --> 01:10:32,310
That's what they told me. And I'm like
puzzled because...
1111
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,540
They're all talking about the Bible,
which is the tone that they are
1112
01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:39,200
that Jesus' words are in, right?
1113
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:45,940
And I recall distinctly being told that
Jesus said, well, I do, you can do, and
1114
01:10:45,940 --> 01:10:46,940
much more.
1115
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,240
So I quote this. I go, well, why does
your Bible say that then? Oh, no, only
1116
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,160
Jesus can hear. And I was just
dismissed. Christ is all and in all,
1117
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,080
So...
1118
01:10:57,309 --> 01:11:02,390
And because my early childhood was quite
unusual in that my father was a
1119
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:03,670
commercial airline pilot.
1120
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:04,910
All right.
1121
01:11:05,150 --> 01:11:06,590
This is his jacket.
1122
01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:09,070
Sorry? This isn't his jacket. No, it's
not his jacket.
1123
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:16,950
We spent most of my sort of early
teenage years or childhood and early
1124
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:18,470
years living in different countries.
1125
01:11:18,690 --> 01:11:19,608
Right.
1126
01:11:19,610 --> 01:11:23,130
The only schooling that was really
available was some kind of priest -run
1127
01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:26,730
school, be it Catholic or Anglican or
whatever.
1128
01:11:27,550 --> 01:11:32,950
And, you know, there was still this lack
of seeing anybody doing healing.
1129
01:11:33,210 --> 01:11:38,390
So by the time I got to sort of about
18, 19, I didn't want anything to do
1130
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:40,070
conventional religion.
1131
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:41,269
Right.
1132
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:45,370
You know, kind of like it didn't
resonate with me. You know, like I was
1133
01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:50,350
we know things, but... We don't
necessarily know what we know, but we
1134
01:11:50,350 --> 01:11:52,990
something resonates with us or not. Like
a ring of truth.
1135
01:11:53,410 --> 01:11:54,410
That's the one.
1136
01:11:54,590 --> 01:11:59,590
And it's interesting that you brought
that up because that was also something
1137
01:11:59,590 --> 01:12:04,370
that was very profound to me when there
were people talking about what's the
1138
01:12:04,370 --> 01:12:08,710
truth? What's the truth of things? I
used to ponder that and I used to go,
1139
01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:11,930
how can we ascertain what the truth is?
1140
01:12:13,070 --> 01:12:20,030
And I thought in my simple logistical
mind as a young that if I want to know
1141
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:22,950
what the truth is, I have to live
truthfully.
1142
01:12:23,970 --> 01:12:30,830
And as long as I live as truthful to
myself and to others, then I'm like
1143
01:12:30,830 --> 01:12:32,150
in the vibration of truth.
1144
01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:36,730
Therefore, it will resonate with me or
not.
1145
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,360
if something is presented you have those
feelings that that perception then of
1146
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,060
this resonance and this frequency to
that or or you know is that something
1147
01:12:47,060 --> 01:12:52,360
bought later in life well it's almost
like i always knew but i didn't really
1148
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,940
know what i knew and the journey is
really the terms that you're using right
1149
01:12:56,940 --> 01:13:02,780
frequency wavelength well yeah they
might not been the terms that i used
1150
01:13:02,780 --> 01:13:08,330
was more like just i had this this kind
of knowing and a sense An intuition.
1151
01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:12,470
Yeah, very much an intuition because
that's the way I work, very much
1152
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:13,470
intuitively.
1153
01:13:14,370 --> 01:13:15,370
Teaching within.
1154
01:13:15,850 --> 01:13:16,850
Yeah, yeah.
1155
01:13:17,470 --> 01:13:22,450
And it wasn't until I got to the age of
about 21, 22 that I was introduced to
1156
01:13:22,450 --> 01:13:24,810
people that were actually doing healing.
Right.
1157
01:13:25,170 --> 01:13:27,230
And they called it spiritual healing.
1158
01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:32,230
And I went up to one of the healers and
I said, you know, I've been looking for
1159
01:13:32,230 --> 01:13:33,370
this for a long, long time.
1160
01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:35,870
Can I do it?
1161
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:40,040
I don't know anything about the human
anatomy or anything like that.
1162
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,060
And the healer said to me, yes, of
course you can.
1163
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,460
I said, well, what do I do then? And he
said, well, put out your intent.
1164
01:13:48,860 --> 01:13:53,600
And that has still stuck with me. The
power of intent is still very much a key
1165
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:59,980
understanding that I still adhere to.
The power of making your intention.
1166
01:14:00,180 --> 01:14:04,560
This is something that seems to be
fairly widespread in these fields.
1167
01:14:04,780 --> 01:14:06,100
For instance, in dowsing.
1168
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:09,350
You know, if you're going to go and
douse, there's no point in going out
1169
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:12,710
wondering what it is you're going to
find. You supposedly have to go out
1170
01:14:12,710 --> 01:14:15,130
and say, I want to find a nice clean
water system.
1171
01:14:15,530 --> 01:14:19,210
Right, right. You have to put the
intention out. And again, that's a very
1172
01:14:19,210 --> 01:14:22,670
frequency -led, supposedly, concept,
isn't it?
1173
01:14:22,930 --> 01:14:25,150
Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of...
You're putting out a vibe.
1174
01:14:25,450 --> 01:14:30,430
Yeah, the way I think in terms of
intention, that is the most powerful
1175
01:14:30,430 --> 01:14:31,850
act that we can ever make.
1176
01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:36,050
Nothing would manifest in our realities
unless we made... Yeah.
1177
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:40,780
There's an intention for it. The will
shall be the whole of the law, as Mr.
1178
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:41,800
Crowley would say.
1179
01:14:41,980 --> 01:14:46,760
So he basically said, put out your
intention to be an instrument to channel
1180
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:47,760
healing energies.
1181
01:14:47,780 --> 01:14:49,520
I was like, that's it?
1182
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,020
Simple as that? Yeah. And did it work?
1183
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,320
And it did.
1184
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:58,580
And, you know, I... So did you go on and
heal people?
1185
01:14:59,470 --> 01:15:04,570
When the occasion arose of any kind of
situation where I knew someone that was
1186
01:15:04,570 --> 01:15:11,030
suffering in some kind of way... How
would you go and heal somebody?
1187
01:15:11,410 --> 01:15:15,770
Let's say I have done a cake right now,
what sort of thing would it be?
1188
01:15:16,090 --> 01:15:20,010
Well, the way that I did it and the way
that I was told to do it was that I
1189
01:15:20,010 --> 01:15:25,410
would sit the person down, tell them
just to close their eyes and think of
1190
01:15:25,410 --> 01:15:26,410
something serene.
1191
01:15:26,780 --> 01:15:30,240
not worry I wouldn't necessarily tell
them what I'm doing because I didn't
1192
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:35,160
to create a kind of I just said oh I
think I can help in some way to sit in
1193
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:40,740
chair and close your eyes and then I
would literally make that intent that
1194
01:15:40,740 --> 01:15:46,260
healing energy is coming through me and
I just allow my hands to pass around the
1195
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:51,460
person I wouldn't touch them I'd be a
distance away from them but I would feel
1196
01:15:51,460 --> 01:15:52,780
that my hands got very warm
1197
01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:54,900
I did notice that.
1198
01:15:55,180 --> 01:16:00,680
And then I would, as the healer had
explained to me, just go where you feel,
1199
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,240
know, so if I felt drawn to a particular
area, I'd sit and linger there for a
1200
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,240
moment.
1201
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:10,040
And basically that's as simple as it
was.
1202
01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:11,760
Was it ever not worked?
1203
01:16:13,540 --> 01:16:17,140
Not in the sense, it might not have been
an immediate.
1204
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,560
There might not have been an immediate.
1205
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,440
Although... Most people have always
expressed some kind of... I mean, one
1206
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:31,140
who had a back problem was convinced
that I'd held some big
1207
01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:35,260
metal rod, pushed it up against his
back.
1208
01:16:35,530 --> 01:16:39,470
I didn't feel physical things before. He
felt like his back straightened and he
1209
01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:44,430
thought, he said, oh, what was that
metal rod you put up against my spine? I
1210
01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:48,130
went, I didn't even touch it. But what
do you think about maybe, you know, what
1211
01:16:48,130 --> 01:16:51,930
a psychologist would sit here and say
that this is psychosomatic and that
1212
01:16:51,930 --> 01:16:56,810
are creating these feelings of a metal
thing behind them inside their own mind,
1213
01:16:56,890 --> 01:16:58,850
etc. Do you just not care?
1214
01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:01,430
Or do you look into that?
1215
01:17:03,850 --> 01:17:09,910
I haven't needed, let's say, scientific
proof or anything like that in my
1216
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:15,790
journey because experience to me is a
big part.
1217
01:17:16,190 --> 01:17:20,210
That doesn't mean to say I haven't kept
an eye. I have always kept an eye on
1218
01:17:20,210 --> 01:17:27,010
what scientific explanations of things,
particularly recently with the advent
1219
01:17:27,010 --> 01:17:32,610
of quantum physics and what's coming out
of that camp, I find fascinating in the
1220
01:17:32,610 --> 01:17:33,610
light of...
1221
01:17:33,630 --> 01:17:38,010
what my understanding, which has come
very much from more spiritually kind of,
1222
01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:42,370
if you like, to use the term channeled
kind of. Almost as if we're, as a
1223
01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:45,110
society, coming full circle back to our
ancestors.
1224
01:17:45,550 --> 01:17:51,450
Definitely. The science is putting us
back that way. Well, you know, science,
1225
01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:54,110
some respect, what science said wasn't
possible.
1226
01:17:55,140 --> 01:17:58,800
Yesterday they're saying it's possible
now and so on and so on. I mean, people
1227
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,480
have been using certain processes for
aeons without needing scientific proof
1228
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:07,180
because they've worked. And then
suddenly they find the scientific
1229
01:18:07,480 --> 01:18:10,560
When you sit down and you think about
how the Greeks and the Egyptians used to
1230
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,400
have their healing centers and things,
these are very holistic places.
1231
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,340
Now, speaking of holistic things, one of
the things that you've got into that
1232
01:18:17,340 --> 01:18:22,000
I'm fascinated with, and I hope you'll
do for us now, is your music.
1233
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:26,790
Your music has been found to be very
healing to people, and I think that
1234
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:30,070
is science to a lot of things, and I
think that it's very provable that
1235
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:34,530
frequencies can... They did experiments
with plants and things like that.
1236
01:18:35,050 --> 01:18:40,430
Certain kinds of music, as Hugh
Montgomery was on the show recently,
1237
01:18:40,430 --> 01:18:44,210
privately, you know, as a PhD in
audiology, that certain kinds of music
1238
01:18:44,210 --> 01:18:45,270
disturb you as well.
1239
01:18:45,570 --> 01:18:51,130
Absolutely. So will you very kindly go
and pick up your guitar and give us a
1240
01:18:51,130 --> 01:18:52,130
moments of...
1241
01:18:52,580 --> 01:18:54,080
All right, I'll do that.
1242
01:18:54,460 --> 01:18:55,379
Thank you.
1243
01:18:55,380 --> 01:19:00,020
So we're going to listen to a nice
little bit of music now from Nick
1244
01:19:00,020 --> 01:19:03,720
you ever want to listen to any more of
Nick Asheron's stuff, he's got plenty of
1245
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:09,020
CDs out, and he's got a website,
nickasheron .com, is that right?
1246
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:14,040
Yes. Yes, nickasheron .com. So there's
plenty of music on there I think you can
1247
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,800
click and listen to a few bits. So are
we ready, Nick?
1248
01:19:17,140 --> 01:19:18,119
We are indeed.
1249
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,120
Take it away.
1250
01:19:19,380 --> 01:19:20,660
It's called Lover's Lullaby.
1251
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,240
Hi there, welcome back to Gardens World.
Before the break we had the wonderful
1252
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,840
music of Nick Asheron, and it certainly
prepared the soul for many things, I'm
1253
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:57,840
sure.
1254
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:03,560
I was listening to you, and it brought
back some memories from my childhood,
1255
01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:08,580
when I was in a little band, which back
then we called Mind Machine.
1256
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,580
So God knows what we were thinking at
the time.
1257
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,380
But I distinctly remember I was on the
keyboard and we would jam.
1258
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:22,480
I remember being in a loft in
Nottingham, watching the sun go down,
1259
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:25,980
on the bass and the guitar stood there
with whatever it was they were smoking,
1260
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,600
and, you know, I never touched the
stuff.
1261
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:33,180
But we were jamming, and the most
beautiful thing that I remember about it
1262
01:22:33,180 --> 01:22:34,700
that we were all like one.
1263
01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:40,440
It was as if we all knew exactly what
the next person, next chord the next
1264
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:45,280
person would play, and who would play
the little riffs, and whatever. You
1265
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:49,640
just... Strangely knew where to put your
fingers on the keyboard. I've had that
1266
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:54,160
a lot when working with other musicians
you go into this kind of always like a
1267
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:59,580
Group consciousness if you like where
you're totally in tune with everyone and
1268
01:22:59,580 --> 01:23:04,400
you just kind of you're improvising and
but somehow you managed to go all kind
1269
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:09,560
of Come together in this amazing space.
What I find fascinating about it. Of
1270
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:14,300
course is I'm not well known for being
mr. Spiritual Yeah, I'm known for me.
1271
01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:16,630
Logic and all that all the rest of it.
1272
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:19,650
You know, it's what you mean by the word
spiritual though, isn't it?
1273
01:23:19,850 --> 01:23:22,990
Absolutely. God, spirituality, all those
things you have to define.
1274
01:23:23,250 --> 01:23:27,810
But I'm not well known for being
spiritual and I would class that
1275
01:23:27,810 --> 01:23:29,850
my own mind as a kind of spiritual
experience.
1276
01:23:30,630 --> 01:23:36,270
You know, like similar experiences I've
had in, for instance, Australia where,
1277
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:40,550
you know, I walked out in the morning
and there is a kangaroo, seven foot
1278
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:44,550
kangaroo, this far away from me and
everybody is going, get me out of the
1279
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:48,220
quickly. And I'm going, I don't need to.
I know this kangaroo means no harm.
1280
01:23:48,460 --> 01:23:51,960
I have no idea how to say, how to
express. I knew.
1281
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:54,840
And I've had similar experiences. I've
had one with a brown bear.
1282
01:23:55,780 --> 01:23:57,320
I've had one even with a scorpion.
1283
01:23:57,580 --> 01:24:01,600
Do not fear the animals because I know
that I'm expressing a certain kind of
1284
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,600
frequency.
1285
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,000
This is similar to the kind of things
that you're doing with the healing of
1286
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,040
music, isn't it? You're expressing a
frequency which resonates with people.
1287
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:15,590
Yeah, and when I made the comment about
spiritual, to me, what's... spirituality
1288
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:21,350
means is the understanding that
everything is connected that we're all
1289
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:28,330
we are all connected and following a
spiritual pathway again to me is with
1290
01:24:28,330 --> 01:24:32,270
that awareness and with that
understanding is naturally going to
1291
01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:38,470
compassion and caring and and being
aware of other people's feelings
1292
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:45,020
um it's that connectedness that oneness,
and that's what
1293
01:24:45,020 --> 01:24:49,260
I like to convey through the music. To
me, nature is very, very important,
1294
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:51,660
always been really important to me,
still is.
1295
01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:56,360
I need to spend frequent times just
being at one in the natural environment.
1296
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,400
I spent all my childhood, as I said, in
trees.
1297
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,380
What would you do if, I mean, how would
you advise somebody, for instance, who
1298
01:25:02,380 --> 01:25:03,380
is...
1299
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:09,980
deeply into the material world, their
life is spent 40, 50, 60 hours a week at
1300
01:25:09,980 --> 01:25:13,040
the office. They have to drive through
the traffic on the way home.
1301
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,020
They've got the bills, all those other
things.
1302
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:21,000
How would you advise them to go about
getting back into some sort of balance
1303
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,000
with nature in that way?
1304
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:28,420
Well, apart from making the time to go
and spend some time in nature, the other
1305
01:25:28,420 --> 01:25:30,860
alternative to that would be
1306
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:37,840
either listening to some music that can
create that kind of space, because music
1307
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,000
is very powerful for creating that kind
of space, even if you're not in it.
1308
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:49,760
And of course meditation too, where you
just allow yourself a silence, a space
1309
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,560
of stillness within you, and imagine
you're in that environment. If you can't
1310
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,760
physically get there, at least you can
connect with it within your own mind.
1311
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:04,580
Just to me, it's so, so important in
terms of nurturing my well -being, which
1312
01:26:04,580 --> 01:26:05,580
really important.
1313
01:26:05,660 --> 01:26:12,200
I see that our well -being is one of the
most fundamental states to be in
1314
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,640
because when you're in your well -being,
when you're feeling really good about
1315
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,480
yourself particularly, that then mirrors
itself in your reality.
1316
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,640
And spreads outwards to others.
1317
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:25,980
And it's like you increase your
vibrations, if you like, when you're in
1318
01:26:25,980 --> 01:26:27,200
of feeling good about yourself.
1319
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:28,500
And unfortunately,
1320
01:26:30,089 --> 01:26:34,010
most human beings don't feel good about
themselves because of the amount of
1321
01:26:34,010 --> 01:26:38,810
conditioning, the fear programming that
humanity has been subjected to for
1322
01:26:38,810 --> 01:26:43,810
thousands of years in variety of
different forms and still going on.
1323
01:26:45,410 --> 01:26:52,190
When I'm talking to people in the
context of the work that I'm doing,
1324
01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:56,170
working with guides, which is the
psychic art side of things,
1325
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:02,120
the main things that come through are
not telling people you know what job
1326
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,320
should have or where they should be
going out with this girl or whatever
1327
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:11,900
about practical tools that the
individual can use that will empower
1328
01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:17,480
thus empowering them assisting them in
being able to create realities that are
1329
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:23,080
more desirable because there are some
very simple understandings of processes
1330
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,980
that you can utilize
1331
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:31,180
where you can then start manifesting
realities that are more, you know, of
1332
01:27:31,180 --> 01:27:33,560
choice, like co -creating your reality.
1333
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:38,920
The interesting thing with that is,
though I'm not one that necessarily
1334
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:44,260
have scientific proof of things, I've
always kept an eye on what has been
1335
01:27:44,260 --> 01:27:49,260
out of the scientific camp, particularly
with the quantum physics thing. I
1336
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:53,580
remember when there was a series of
scientists who were...
1337
01:27:53,950 --> 01:27:59,430
discovered the quark, and it was a bit
of an enigma to them, because when they
1338
01:27:59,430 --> 01:28:05,710
were trying to ascertain what it did, it
did whatever they thought it would do.
1339
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:10,390
And I'm thinking, in my very simplistic
way, we're talking about one of the
1340
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:16,990
building blocks of our physical universe
being directly affected by thought, and
1341
01:28:16,990 --> 01:28:21,810
ancient esoteric teachings have always
said, we create our own reality, and I'm
1342
01:28:21,810 --> 01:28:25,380
going, well, you know, Here they've
actually discovered it.
1343
01:28:26,460 --> 01:28:31,300
I think you're right though from the
very start in many respects.
1344
01:28:31,660 --> 01:28:36,540
The science is important in order to
help balance certain things out and to
1345
01:28:36,540 --> 01:28:38,600
when certain things may or may not be
right.
1346
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,760
It's a work in progress anyway itself.
1347
01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:43,380
But the experience, the knowledge.
1348
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,480
that these things are true you know that
that there is a connection between us
1349
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:52,800
all you have to certainly experience it
a lot for yourself don't you well this
1350
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:57,800
would be very much you know the line
that perhaps shaman or medicine men
1351
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,680
take in in introducing
1352
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:06,760
an individual into the understanding of
other dimensional realities or what they
1353
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,440
might call dream time or whatever, they
would have to put them through an
1354
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:14,060
experience because without them having
gone through that experience it doesn't
1355
01:29:14,060 --> 01:29:15,060
mean anything.
1356
01:29:15,140 --> 01:29:18,900
You can't describe, there are certain
things you cannot actually put into
1357
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,980
Well I could sit here and talk to you
all day about this fascinating stuff and
1358
01:29:23,980 --> 01:29:27,420
if anybody wants to know more about you
and book you for lectures
1359
01:29:30,580 --> 01:29:33,640
You're doing a workshop on this kind of
stuff, so that's great. If anybody wants
1360
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,320
to do that, they go to nickashron .com.
1361
01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:41,780
And your books and your DVDs are
available on the internet, on Amazon,
1362
01:29:41,780 --> 01:29:42,780
kind of places too.
1363
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:49,900
I've also got an Elfin Spiral website,
which is elfinspiral .com. E -L -F -I
1364
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,220
spiral .com.
1365
01:29:51,660 --> 01:29:53,000
Nick, thank you very much.
1366
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:56,120
for coming on. I do appreciate it. Thank
you. I'm bringing your wisdom along.
1367
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,400
Thank you.
1368
01:29:58,060 --> 01:30:04,020
Fascinating stuff about self -help that
we're getting there from Nick, who now
1369
01:30:04,020 --> 01:30:06,300
has to swap, I'm afraid, for Brian.
1370
01:30:06,580 --> 01:30:12,140
We've got Brian Main coming on now,
which is also about a lot of self -help
1371
01:30:12,140 --> 01:30:17,100
stuff, and it's probably solely about
that stuff, actually. And I'm fascinated
1372
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:20,300
by this character and by what he's done.
1373
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,740
Brian made millions.
1374
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:24,360
and then lost it all.
1375
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,680
He then went and made more money and
millions with a nightclub and then lost
1376
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:30,539
all again.
1377
01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:37,260
Brian, now you're a successful author,
speaker, and
1378
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:41,740
many other things. Do tell us all about
this past and what it is that you do
1379
01:30:41,740 --> 01:30:43,120
now. What, from the very beginning?
1380
01:30:43,580 --> 01:30:46,980
From the... You tell us, whatever you
feel happy telling me.
1381
01:30:47,860 --> 01:30:51,080
I was born into a travelling thumb fair
family.
1382
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,180
On both sides of my family and related
to circus. On my mum's side to Smart
1383
01:30:55,180 --> 01:30:57,780
Circus and my dad's side to
Chipperfield. Big names.
1384
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,980
Yeah, both the main circus families.
1385
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:05,600
And my family have been in the funfair
business for generations. But the year I
1386
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,940
was born, my father decided to take a
lease on an amusement arcade on the Isle
1387
01:31:09,940 --> 01:31:10,938
of Wight.
1388
01:31:10,940 --> 01:31:13,780
And so I grew up always having several
different homes each year, one on the
1389
01:31:13,780 --> 01:31:17,560
Isle of Wight for the summer season,
one's travelling around on the fares, so
1390
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,620
kept touch with our route, and then a
third home, which was our winter base,
1391
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,340
just outside of Heathrow Airport.
1392
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,520
And that continued right up until I was
18.
1393
01:31:25,780 --> 01:31:29,880
And like a lot of fairground people, I
left school early. I left school at 13
1394
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:30,880
with no qualifications.
1395
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,060
I have dyslexia, so I found this.
1396
01:31:33,370 --> 01:31:39,390
reading particularly hard. There are a
few enlightened
1397
01:31:39,390 --> 01:31:43,910
teachers that knew something was wrong
and sent me for special classes and my
1398
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:46,410
parents made a real effort sending me
for private education.
1399
01:31:46,690 --> 01:31:50,730
I just couldn't seem to get the hang of
it and once I left school I made no
1400
01:31:50,730 --> 01:31:53,870
effort to practice it and by the age of
18 I'd lost it.
1401
01:31:54,590 --> 01:31:57,690
At 18, my ability to read and write was
so poor, I couldn't fill out a
1402
01:31:57,690 --> 01:31:58,690
checkbook. Really?
1403
01:31:58,790 --> 01:32:02,170
I couldn't spell words like 7 or 8 or
12. It was beyond me. I needed to get
1404
01:32:02,170 --> 01:32:04,850
somebody else to do that for me. And yet
you became a millionaire.
1405
01:32:05,150 --> 01:32:07,390
Well, I went on to run the family
business.
1406
01:32:07,730 --> 01:32:11,690
And my father could never read or write
either, and I was desperately
1407
01:32:11,690 --> 01:32:14,730
embarrassed about not being able to read
and write. But I had some good role
1408
01:32:14,730 --> 01:32:18,270
models who were doing well for
themselves, even though they were
1409
01:32:18,270 --> 01:32:22,070
academically, my father being one. And
by the time I was...
1410
01:32:22,590 --> 01:32:26,550
About 18, 19, he owned half a dozen
different amusement arcades.
1411
01:32:26,970 --> 01:32:29,910
And one of them had a big empty space
above it, which he didn't know what to
1412
01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:33,950
with. And so at 19, I had the bright
idea of turning it into a disco.
1413
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:37,870
And I've become, for a little while, the
youngest licensee in the UK to hold a
1414
01:32:37,870 --> 01:32:38,910
liquor and entertainment license.
1415
01:32:40,190 --> 01:32:44,010
Opened up in 1981, which was the crest
of the new Romantics wave.
1416
01:32:44,230 --> 01:32:46,350
Oh, yeah. I remember it well.
1417
01:32:46,570 --> 01:32:47,570
Oh, yeah.
1418
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:50,030
Had a lot of fun, made a lot of money.
1419
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,980
And then in the late 80s, early 90s, a
lot of change came. Firstly, the
1420
01:32:54,980 --> 01:32:59,300
changed. It went from the disco scene in
various guises into the rave scene.
1421
01:32:59,660 --> 01:33:02,800
We flew a flag for that. It was one of
the first rave clubs on the South Coast.
1422
01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:06,240
Not really realizing the challenges that
would bring us with the authorities.
1423
01:33:06,820 --> 01:33:11,800
The economy changed. We opened up a
second place at a disastrous time just
1424
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,760
before interest rates doubled and people
spending power halved.
1425
01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:19,210
But the worst thing was me. I just made
some really poor decisions and buried my
1426
01:33:19,210 --> 01:33:22,790
head in the sand and hoped it would all
sort itself out and it didn't. And
1427
01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:27,110
around about age 29, I woke up one day
and was forced to lift my head from the
1428
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:28,110
sand and it was all gone.
1429
01:33:28,290 --> 01:33:32,110
Business was gone and savings were gone
and possessions were gone and I ended up
1430
01:33:32,110 --> 01:33:33,110
a million pound in debt.
1431
01:33:34,010 --> 01:33:38,450
And I moved back into my old bedroom in
my parents' house on charity and again
1432
01:33:38,450 --> 01:33:39,830
tried to hide from it all.
1433
01:33:40,770 --> 01:33:44,130
And then some friends come knocking on
the door one day and basically said,
1434
01:33:44,130 --> 01:33:45,099
stock.
1435
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:49,140
A million pounds of debt with nothing
left to sell, no qualifications, no
1436
01:33:49,140 --> 01:33:52,320
work experience. You've always worked
for your father. Nothing to put on a CV.
1437
01:33:52,420 --> 01:33:53,420
That's if you could put one together.
1438
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,460
Because at age 29, you can't read and
write properly.
1439
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,840
We think you're ideally suited for a
career in sales.
1440
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:06,260
So I've become a salesperson for a
little while and didn't really enjoy the
1441
01:34:06,260 --> 01:34:11,740
selling side, but it was a great
blessing because I was introduced to
1442
01:34:11,740 --> 01:34:13,080
training, the philosophy.
1443
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:14,840
of positive thinking.
1444
01:34:15,500 --> 01:34:20,340
That by altering the attitude or
condition of your heart and mind, you
1445
01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:22,500
change the circumstances of your life.
1446
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:27,480
And some very simple truths were shared
with me. And I remember the trainer at
1447
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:29,920
the front of the room saying, Brian, if
you think that you can, you can.
1448
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:34,160
And if you think that you can't, you
can't. And I'd heard it before
1449
01:34:34,420 --> 01:34:37,800
I now know it's a paraphrase of
something Henry Ford said over a hundred
1450
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,760
ago. But it just washed past my mind in
the past.
1451
01:34:41,630 --> 01:34:44,590
But this man put a little bit of science
against it, and like Nick was saying,
1452
01:34:44,630 --> 01:34:46,410
sometimes it's good to have a little bit
of science.
1453
01:34:47,470 --> 01:34:50,750
The right brain is connected to
intuition, and my intuition was saying,
1454
01:34:50,750 --> 01:34:51,750
feels right.
1455
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:56,410
My left brain, and the left brain is
connected to ego and fear response, was
1456
01:34:56,410 --> 01:34:57,970
saying, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but.
1457
01:34:58,710 --> 01:35:02,310
So a little bit of science helped me.
You also did a timing thing as well,
1458
01:35:02,350 --> 01:35:03,350
hadn't you?
1459
01:35:03,470 --> 01:35:06,990
Yeah, the timing, I was looking for some
answers.
1460
01:35:08,030 --> 01:35:10,130
I learned that when you think
positively...
1461
01:35:10,730 --> 01:35:14,270
You trigger the release. You spark an
electrical impulse in the heart of the
1462
01:35:14,270 --> 01:35:17,910
brain cell. It travels out on the brain
cell arms, the dendrite arms, and it
1463
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:21,290
triggers the release of a chemical
called serotonin, the feel -good
1464
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:25,810
that helps you make a connection between
the brain cells. And by thinking
1465
01:35:25,810 --> 01:35:29,910
positively and forming these connections
through the chemical release, you
1466
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:34,130
activate the whole of your brain, the
left side, which is primarily logical
1467
01:35:34,130 --> 01:35:38,190
analytical, and the right side, which is
more spiritual, creative, intuitive.
1468
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,360
By activating the whole of your brain,
it helps you to find answers to
1469
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,480
And I just become fascinated in that
material, that work.
1470
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,300
And I set goals and used positive
thinking to overcome my dyslexia. It
1471
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:52,960
about a year to teach myself to read
well.
1472
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:59,680
And I decided to honor the gift by only
reading more information around the
1473
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:04,820
brain, personal development, how we can
develop our potential.
1474
01:36:05,690 --> 01:36:09,210
And that sort of led me then into
psychology, philosophy, and
1475
01:36:09,450 --> 01:36:13,730
And everything that I learned that made
sense, that felt right, I applied it. I
1476
01:36:13,730 --> 01:36:16,050
put it into practice. And little by
little, life took off.
1477
01:36:16,450 --> 01:36:21,030
And a lot of people want to know how I
was making the difference that I was
1478
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:24,750
making to my life. And so I started
sharing it with others, just because I
1479
01:36:24,750 --> 01:36:25,750
wanted to at first.
1480
01:36:26,210 --> 01:36:29,470
And then gradually, I started running
seminars and workshops.
1481
01:36:29,850 --> 01:36:33,230
And that's been my life for about the
last 14 years now.
1482
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:49,980
For those who have stepped forth into
the enigmatic and complicated world of
1483
01:36:49,980 --> 01:36:53,320
research, they know that it is rife with
division.
1484
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:05,040
But here, just like religion, we have
another reason for the numerous splits,
1485
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,900
the enigma really comes down to the
individual human experience.
1486
01:37:13,420 --> 01:37:17,080
There are many who have claimed that
they have been visited by aliens or
1487
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:18,080
from other dimensions.
1488
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:23,420
The vast majority, like people who see
ghosts and apparitions, believe in the
1489
01:37:23,420 --> 01:37:26,680
data from experiences they encountered
with their very own eyes.
1490
01:37:33,460 --> 01:37:39,200
The unconscious mind remains a mystery
because we are simply not conscious of
1491
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:44,350
it. We must imagine what it is like
inside this huge domain on the other
1492
01:37:44,350 --> 01:37:45,410
our daily realities.
1493
01:37:49,890 --> 01:37:54,090
Occasionally, people recall their
encounters in this strange world in
1494
01:37:54,250 --> 01:37:59,850
and more interestingly, lucid dreams,
whereby we become conscious of elements
1495
01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:02,510
our unconscious world and even interact
with them.
1496
01:38:17,710 --> 01:38:22,370
If we remain neutral, then we avoid
excluding any possibilities that have
1497
01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:24,850
emerge in our conscious and unconscious
minds.
1498
01:38:25,210 --> 01:38:30,210
We avoid putting ourselves into any
framed paradigm as in the case of
1499
01:38:30,210 --> 01:38:31,169
and logic.
1500
01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:36,170
Perhaps we need to abandon any previous
notions or ideas about this phenomenon
1501
01:38:36,170 --> 01:38:39,070
to gain headway into the unknown.
1502
01:38:43,130 --> 01:38:45,370
What are the UFOs?
1503
01:38:48,620 --> 01:38:50,220
Are they emanating from ourselves?
1504
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,380
Are they here only because we have the
capacity to perceive them?
1505
01:38:56,020 --> 01:39:00,120
Perhaps they are ancient archetypes that
we have forgotten within the sands of
1506
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,120
time.
1507
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:06,680
Whatever they are, they are very real to
the experiencer. They are real to
1508
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:11,340
countless thousands who encounter them
more and more each year as the sightings
1509
01:39:11,340 --> 01:39:12,400
continue to multiply.
1510
01:39:13,020 --> 01:39:15,040
What are they trying to tell us?
1511
01:39:49,930 --> 01:39:54,170
If we can understand the UFOs, perhaps
we can better understand ourselves.
1512
01:40:20,170 --> 01:40:24,070
Fox Mulder is free of the demands placed
upon him by government.
1513
01:40:26,590 --> 01:40:31,750
What are his opinions on ancient
astronauts, black technology, and the
1514
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:37,930
psychology of belief in UFOs? And last,
but not least, aliens.
1515
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:27,440
At the end of the 20th century, many
predicted the advent of doom, or the
1516
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:28,438
of Christ.
1517
01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:34,260
The 16th century French prophet
Nostradamus had spoken of the solar
1518
01:41:34,260 --> 01:41:36,060
August 11, 1999.
1519
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:39,980
Could this astronomical phenomena be a
sign?
1520
01:41:40,180 --> 01:41:42,240
Could it be the end of an era?
1521
01:41:42,860 --> 01:41:49,200
It soon became clear that September 11,
2001 has changed our world much more
1522
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,320
than August 11, 1999.
1523
01:41:56,820 --> 01:42:02,740
But in recent years, the new end date,
our meeting with destiny itself, has
1524
01:42:02,740 --> 01:42:05,500
moved to December 21, 2012.
1525
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:10,980
What events are predicted to occur
during this time?
1526
01:42:16,750 --> 01:42:21,770
Climate change, unprecedented
hurricanes, and the most violent
1527
01:42:21,770 --> 01:42:24,550
experienced dominate the news regularly.
1528
01:42:26,250 --> 01:42:30,990
With so many false alarms, is time
finally running out?
1529
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:38,450
Though climate change might be man
-made, hurricanes and definitely
1530
01:42:38,450 --> 01:42:40,130
are clearly out of our hands.
1531
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:42,010
So what is causing this?
1532
01:42:42,230 --> 01:42:43,990
Some look towards the sun.
1533
01:42:44,510 --> 01:42:48,630
Some scientists even hold the sun
responsible for the climate change,
1534
01:42:48,630 --> 01:42:53,330
that the global warming is not just
happening on this planet, but all
1535
01:42:53,330 --> 01:42:54,330
the solar system.
1536
01:42:56,450 --> 01:43:03,230
Unlike 1999, December 21, 2012 is indeed
the end of something. The Long
1537
01:43:03,230 --> 01:43:07,770
Count Calendar, a calendar system used
by the Mayan civilization of Central
1538
01:43:07,770 --> 01:43:08,770
America.
1539
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,740
On that day, the 13th Bakhtun cycle will
be completed.
1540
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:21,880
Some Mayan and other Mesoamerican
groups, such as the Aztecs, say we live
1541
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:22,880
5th age.
1542
01:43:23,060 --> 01:43:28,540
The next age to be born in 2012 will be
therefore that of the 6th sun.
1543
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:35,160
Our age started on August 11, 3114 B .C.
1544
01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:41,250
But as it is known, that time did not
mark the beginning of the world.
1545
01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:45,290
Why should we consider 2012 to be the
end of the world?
1546
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:47,870
Or is it the birth of a new world?
1547
01:44:09,070 --> 01:44:15,470
Over the past 5 ,000 years,
civilizations were born and
1548
01:44:15,470 --> 01:44:16,470
destroyed.
1549
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:22,510
On the other side of the world were a
people who held a calendar that had
1550
01:44:22,510 --> 01:44:27,090
that were five millennia long and that
new astronomical knowledge we have only
1551
01:44:27,090 --> 01:44:30,750
recently been able to confirm as
scientifically real.
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01:44:32,410 --> 01:44:35,670
So on December 21st, 2012,
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01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:40,540
In the region where the sun is aligning
with the heart of the Milky Way, known
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01:44:40,540 --> 01:44:45,860
as the galactic center, we will
encounter a feature known as the dark
1555
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:52,680
In the Mayan creation mythology, this is
called the Zibalba Bay, the road to the
1556
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:53,680
underworld.
1557
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,600
I mean, we've got a situation today in
this country where the mainstream media
1558
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,320
is just not getting the truth across.
1559
01:45:43,660 --> 01:45:47,860
I'd say I'm awake, and I think you're
awake too. Being awake is like knowing
1560
01:45:47,860 --> 01:45:49,840
that this is an illusion, you know?
1561
01:45:54,860 --> 01:45:57,920
George Bush himself came out and said
that there was a spy network operating
1562
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,920
inside the United States that was linked
with the events of 9 -11.
1563
01:46:02,730 --> 01:46:06,350
People need to understand that there is
a war, but it's not a war on terror,
1564
01:46:06,490 --> 01:46:07,490
it's a war of terror.
1565
01:46:07,610 --> 01:46:08,690
And it's against us.
1566
01:46:09,470 --> 01:46:12,790
It's against the people of the world,
the ordinary people of the world.
1567
01:46:13,990 --> 01:46:17,030
This is what happened in Nazi Germany,
Hitler Youth.
1568
01:46:18,770 --> 01:46:25,770
What they're actually doing is reframing
people to follow their set of values.
1569
01:46:27,170 --> 01:46:30,230
What is actually happening is we are
losing our freedoms, we are losing our
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01:46:30,230 --> 01:46:31,670
right to free movement.
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01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,400
to remain anonymous in front of our
governments, to all the things that are
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01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:36,720
considered basic freedoms historically.
1573
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:42,320
And it all stems from 9 -11. There is a
war and we are its victims. And people
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01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:43,320
need to understand that.
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01:46:44,420 --> 01:46:49,620
I look at the papers or I look at the
news and I know that it's not quite what
1576
01:46:49,620 --> 01:46:51,140
it seems. There's more to it.
1577
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,060
They are looking for a...
1578
01:46:59,660 --> 01:47:05,120
New society with a new form of
government, the post -democratic era.
1579
01:47:05,380 --> 01:47:09,860
As an ex -military person, we are
heading towards a vicious police state.
1580
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:18,860
You speak out about what's actually
happening, fraud, corruption, bullying,
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01:47:18,860 --> 01:47:23,960
get victimised. And we need to do
something to stop the slide into a
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01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:28,680
state. I believe the whole of our
society is under an attack.
1583
01:47:35,950 --> 01:47:39,270
be in a way just by knowing that this is
an illusion, you know?
1584
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,180
contact has been established.
1585
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,660
UFOs or some of them began to attack our
aircraft.
1586
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,820
I believe it's a conflict situation
which continues to this day to some
1587
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,620
That's not to say they're all hostile by
any means.
1588
01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:06,280
People have been abducted. That's the
bottom line.
1589
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,720
Probably tens of thousands of people.
1590
01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:22,500
We found alien life and here it is. The
problem is, but we've been lying to you
1591
01:49:22,500 --> 01:49:27,060
about it for 60 years by previously
denying it. So that's a constitutional
1592
01:49:27,060 --> 01:49:28,060
problem.
1593
01:49:31,380 --> 01:49:36,200
I would say I'd had about four
encounters with aliens in my life, but
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01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:37,940
emergency situation was declared.
1595
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:47,220
John Kennedy requested the...
1596
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:52,360
observation of actual alien bodies,
which he had learned had been recovered
1597
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:53,360
the military.
1598
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,740
And his wish was granted.
1599
01:50:00,980 --> 01:50:02,780
It was a top secret mission.
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01:50:03,300 --> 01:50:08,240
Kennedy saw the bodies. He was taken to
Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida, and
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01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:12,760
the bodies were located at a special
medical facility at that site.
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01:50:20,590 --> 01:50:25,150
You need very, very high security
currencies to get anywhere near these
1603
01:50:25,150 --> 01:50:27,930
programs, which include an alien liaison
program.
1604
01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:30,590
Contact has been established.
1605
01:50:32,170 --> 01:50:34,850
We found alien life and here it is.
1606
01:51:25,580 --> 01:51:28,960
I'm going beyond the ancient Egyptian
civilization.
1607
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,660
And everything is changing now because
the evidence is coming out strong, hard,
1608
01:51:34,860 --> 01:51:36,700
solid stone evidence.
1609
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:41,700
And in a place where we didn't expect it
at all, where I wasn't looking at all.
1610
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:48,120
The centipede of this is a stone
serpent.
1611
01:51:48,860 --> 01:51:51,840
We call it the stone henry of the devil.
1612
01:51:53,710 --> 01:51:56,930
You know, we're realizing that there was
a prehistoric culture all over the
1613
01:51:56,930 --> 01:51:57,930
place.
1614
01:51:58,570 --> 01:52:00,350
Megalithic prehistoric culture.
1615
01:52:03,470 --> 01:52:08,050
They were integrated with the machinery
of the cycles of nature.
1616
01:52:11,810 --> 01:52:16,950
They survived for 3 ,000 years until we
brought our own man -made religion,
1617
01:52:17,090 --> 01:52:19,950
which didn't make sense at all, and look
what happened to Egypt, you know?
1618
01:52:24,910 --> 01:52:29,270
We're bankrupt compared to these people
who are spending thousands of years
1619
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:33,630
studying and looking and trying to make
sense of it from a spiritual point of
1620
01:52:33,630 --> 01:52:34,549
view.
1621
01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:36,110
This is what is wrong.
1622
01:52:36,590 --> 01:52:42,930
And we need to realize that we are
creatures that are essentially
1623
01:52:43,710 --> 01:52:45,770
I don't care what scientists want to
say.
1624
01:52:46,230 --> 01:52:49,430
If you're uncomfortable with that, well,
that's too bad, because that's what we
1625
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:52,010
are. And we need to wake up again.
1626
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:34,640
Roslyn Chapel was built upon an area
that was a noted place of healing from
1627
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:35,640
word go.
1628
01:53:39,020 --> 01:53:45,580
I can tell you that when I first went
there in the early 1990s that the
1629
01:53:45,580 --> 01:53:50,240
impression that I had when I walked
through the door was of immense latent
1630
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:51,240
power.
1631
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:59,400
It's a nexus of earth energy and as I
found out through hard experimentation,
1632
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:04,220
there is an operable portal between this
world and the next inside that chapel.
1633
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,520
It wasn't just another building. It was
a powerhouse of spirit. It was a
1634
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:12,520
powerful place.
1635
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:17,940
And I think the chapel was built in such
proportions that it would take and
1636
01:54:17,940 --> 01:54:22,380
harmonize that energy. I think it would
amplify. It was acting almost as an
1637
01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:23,920
amplifier, a stone -built amplifier.
1638
01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:32,600
The chapel is actually moving in time,
not in this time, but 0 .1 % in another
1639
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:33,600
time.
1640
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,240
I was asked would I like to experience
this energy.
1641
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,840
I literally came off the floor.
1642
01:54:52,140 --> 01:54:55,820
It wasn't feet off the floor, maybe half
an inch I actually lifted from the
1643
01:54:55,820 --> 01:54:56,820
floor, fell forward.
1644
01:54:59,260 --> 01:55:02,920
I was absolutely amazed, completely
astounded, I hadn't a clue what had
1645
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:03,920
happened.
1646
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,060
You could see the faces on the other
side, they wanted to be brought through
1647
01:55:09,060 --> 01:55:10,840
this side, this side of reality.
1648
01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:22,600
The purpose of the augmented force was
to induce a feeling of an easiness or
1649
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:27,840
instability in the listener and if you
like introduce the devil into music.
1650
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:35,260
That augmented force was inducing some
of them to experience altered states of
1651
01:55:35,260 --> 01:55:36,260
consciousness.
1652
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:49,360
Why would Sir William go to all the
trouble of introducing this devil's
1653
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:40,740
the wilderness road they come behind
them the struggles of the Revolutionary
1654
01:56:40,740 --> 01:56:47,240
before them the conquest of a wilderness
the journey is long and
1655
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:53,520
arduous but it leads to a land of
promise day after day the party follows
1656
01:56:53,520 --> 01:57:00,300
unfamiliar trail Bigfoot also known in
North America as the
1657
01:57:00,300 --> 01:57:02,040
Sasquatch or the Oma
1658
01:57:02,860 --> 01:57:05,480
Was the Sasquatch here before the
Indians?
1659
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:14,060
Thousands of Indian locations are named
after the boss of the mountain, or the
1660
01:57:14,060 --> 01:57:18,240
wild man, as the Bigfoot was originally
called by the Amerindians.
1661
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:23,340
Indian cultures generally regard the
wild man with the greatest respect.
1662
01:57:23,780 --> 01:57:28,860
He is viewed as a special kind of being,
perhaps because of his seemingly close
1663
01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:30,320
relationship to humans.
1664
01:57:31,070 --> 01:57:36,210
Many Indian elders regard him as
standing on the border between animal
1665
01:57:36,210 --> 01:57:39,890
consciousness, giving him a supernatural
kind of power.
1666
01:57:41,270 --> 01:57:46,350
But as special as he may be, there is no
tribe that suggests that he is anything
1667
01:57:46,350 --> 01:57:51,430
other than a physical being, living in
the same physical dimensions as humans
1668
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:52,430
and other animals.
1669
01:57:52,910 --> 01:57:58,790
He eats, he sleeps, gathers and
communicates with family members.
1670
01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:11,590
It seems that the wild man may indeed be
of a varied and widespread clan,
1671
01:58:11,730 --> 01:58:13,810
encompassing every continent of the
world.
1672
01:58:14,030 --> 01:58:20,070
They all have one very distinct trait in
common, an exceptionally big human
1673
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:21,070
-like foot.
1674
01:58:35,340 --> 01:58:40,360
Our search for this film brings us to
the great state of Kentucky, the
1675
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,100
state and the home of the Kentucky
Derby.
1676
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:49,260
Throughout the last 100 years, there
have been many wild man sightings in
1677
01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:50,260
Kentucky.
1678
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,880
The light from the road, the blue light.
1679
01:59:25,940 --> 01:59:30,960
It's getting brighter and brighter and
brighter.
1680
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:43,860
Dude, look through here.
1681
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:46,240
Look through there right now. What is
it?
1682
01:59:47,850 --> 01:59:50,130
You can't see it, but the camera picks
it up.
1683
01:59:51,190 --> 01:59:53,230
Holy shit. Let me see. Look at that.
1684
01:59:53,950 --> 01:59:54,950
Look at that.
1685
01:59:54,990 --> 01:59:55,990
What is that?
1686
01:59:56,050 --> 01:59:57,050
I don't know.
1687
01:59:57,410 --> 01:59:58,409
Oh, here.
1688
01:59:58,410 --> 01:59:59,410
Back up. Look at that.
1689
01:59:59,650 --> 02:00:01,110
Whoa. I'm going to walk over there.
1690
02:00:01,410 --> 02:00:02,530
Can you zoom in on it?
1691
02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:05,430
Let's go up there. Come on.
1692
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:40,400
There is a darkness upon the land.
1693
02:00:41,260 --> 02:00:43,940
It is a time of oppression.
1694
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,700
The people are under a new rule.
1695
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,140
The Normans have come.
1696
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:58,280
They have brought with them a new way of
life, a new language, and the old ways
1697
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:01,540
are being lost in the mists of time.
1698
02:01:02,620 --> 02:01:05,320
But some tales have survived.
1699
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,460
The people remember.
1700
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:14,200
A great hero comes to them from the dark
woods.
1701
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:18,580
He is the hooded man.
1702
02:02:15,690 --> 02:02:18,230
His legend has lived on to this very
day.
1703
02:02:18,950 --> 02:02:23,210
His memory still shines bright like the
May Day sun.
1704
02:02:24,170 --> 02:02:26,330
If only we could remember.
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