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This is KQQK Talk Radio with Stella Sidney.

Ms. Sidney's guest today is Dr. Jeremy Lodge,

psychologist, lecturer, leading authority on incest,

and best-selling author of "Incest, the Family Taboo".

Welcome, Dr. Lodge.

Dr. Lodge, your book "Incest, the Family Taboo"

seems quite unorthodox in that you blame what you call today's permissive society as

being responsible for today's alarming increase in reported cases of incest.

Would you care to amplify your position before we take our first call?

Well, first I'd like to say that my research in this field

is the most extensive in the field and it has proven me right time and time again.

In my forthcoming book I discuss adultery as the primary cause of incest.

Now, unorthodox as it may sound,

I'm convinced that women that cheat on their husbands

are the primary causal factor in many fathers turning to their daughters

as a means of getting even.

Now, I speak in layman's terms for the radio audience.

On the other hand,

many wives turn to adolescent sons as substitute lovers

for either errant or inept husbands.

We'll take a break before our first call. Now, don't go away.

Have you been listening to your crazy husband on the radio?

Don't forget, he's your crazy brother as well as my crazy husband.

Besides, maybe he's crazy like a fox.

You better be more careful.

Yeah, sure.

Hello, you're on the air.

Hello?

Hello, you're on the air.

This is Charles from San Mateo.

I've read your book, and I think you're off your rocker.

To my knowledge, no one has ever correlated incest with infidelity.

Huh, Charles, I beg to differ with you.

There is a very definite correlation between adultery and incest.

In my forthcoming book...

- Oh, you're full of shit! - Thank you. Thank you, Charles.

Hello, KQQK Talk Radio. You're on the air.

I've been married for two months,

and my husband loves to watch me have sex with other men.

And it wasn't until after we got married that I found out.

And now I'm beginning to like it.

Would you call that adultery?

Yes, I would definitely, and I...

I recommend that you and your husband seek counseling immediately.

Thank you.

We are talking to Dr. Jeremy Lodge on the subject of incest.

Please try to keep your phone calls on that subject.

I'm sorry, Dr. Lodge, but it seems to me that...

there would have to be more emotional,

deeper, more traumatic reasons for incest than simple adultery.

Well yes, in fact there is one other significant causal factor.

I believe that the lack of discipline...

in today's family is one of the primary roots of society's problems.

And I firmly believe that until they are mature adults...

that both sexes should be segregated...

to protect them... from outside stimulation.

For example, in my own family, I have two daughters.

They have a very strict upbringing,

and they will be going to private girl schools, until they graduate.

How come you're fixing yourself up?

You're not sneaking out again tonight, are you, Naomi?

Don't bug me, Robin.

No, I'm not sneaking out again tonight, okay?

Richie's coming here.

What?

Don't you ever get enough?

What if we get caught?

God knows what Dad will say or do. You heard him on the radio today.

No one's going to know.

We're not going to get caught.

That's what you always say.

Well, you just better be sure he's out of here by bed check.

He'll be out of here before bed check.

Don't worry.

Well, good night, Naomi.

Come on Richie, come on, you're late, come on.

Shh.

Make sure she's asleep.

- Take your pants off. - Oh.

Hurry.

Hurry.

Richie?

I've got to get my sister in on this, so she won't have anything on me.

Like what?

Blackmail.

Come here.

Come on Richie, let's go.

I don't see how anybody could sleep through something like this.

All right, young man!

Young man, what do you think you're doing here?

Get out of here this instant!

Oh, crud!

Oh, no!

I've warned you repeatedly, Naomi Lodge.

We will not tolerate behavior of this sort at Miss Fletcher's school.

But Miss, Miss, Miss Allison.

I'm calling your father in the morning.

You may as well start packing your things.

We will not stand for this sort of shenanigans.

I cannot tell you how... upset this will make your father, Naomi.

You may as well go out the front door, young man.

No, thanks.

Sorry, Naomi.

Your dear, lovely, sweet father will be heartbroken.

Now see what you did, Naomi.

You are always getting me in trouble.

Oh, shut up, Robin.

You're not the one who's in trouble.

You think I can face anyone in this school again?

Then why didn't you stop us earlier?

You weren't sleeping.

You were enjoying yourself.

And this is the thanks I get.

The thanks you get?

I just don't see how I'll be able to talk about the things I've done.

Ah, hell. Joanne?

Mm-hmm.

Well, Joanne, now Dr. Lodge has a way of getting you to let it all hang out,

so that you can deal with your incest problem.

Good morning, everybody. Nice to see you.

Uh!

Joyce McBride should be here in a minute, and then I'll introduce Miss Cove.

Miss Cove, I'm glad you decided to come.

I'm so nervous, Dr. Lodge.

No, there's nothing to be nervous about.

Everyone here has been through the same pain and stress that you have.

I'm so ashamed.

No recriminations.

And I'll help you through the catharsis necessary for you to shed your past.

Do you want me to pick you up at three or

do you want to just call me when group is over?

Just pick me up, Junior, okay?

Mom?

I still don't see why you have to discuss us with the group.

I mean, I know you said no one will know, but...

sure as hell we'll end up in one of Dr. Lodge's books if you tell about us.

Look, if Dr. Lodge says I talk about us, then I talk.

I've got problems.

He says I need help.

He had to start fucking around with...

- Brian. - Don't you dare use that word with me.

Sorry, Mom.

It's just that everything was fine until you and Brian started doing this.

If you hadn't left home, darling, I wouldn't have turned to your brother.

Ah.

You better go in.

I don't want to get into that with you.

You're right. This isn't the time or the place.

Unless you want to join the group.

No way.

See you at three.

I know I'm late. I was arguing with my son.

Sorry, everyone.

Um...

I thought Barbara Scott might be coming with you.

Well, Barbara decided that she'd rather continue her private sessions.

Well, I have to tell somebody. It's been driving me crazy.

Go on. Let it out, honey.

It's this incest thing. I hate it.

It's become like an obsession to me.

I can't think of anything else.

And now...

It's Jimmy. Now I want him too.

First I seduced one son, now the other.

She's... not ready for the group yet.

Okay, well now that we're all here, I'd like you all to, huh...

meet Joanne Cove, our newest Thursday session member.

Hi everybody.

Would you all please...

introduce yourselves to...

Joanne and tell her why you're here so that she doesn't feel all alone.

Hello, I'm Richard Knight, and I'm here because I seduced my daughter.

Hi. I'm Betty Rice, and I had an affair with my brother.

My name is Jeff Moore, and I raped my aunt.

But she asked for it.

Come on, Jeff.

All right. Huh, I thought she asked for it.

I'm Joyce McBride, and I made love to both my sons.

Now, Joanne,

would you like to tell the group why you're here?

No.

Well then, who would like to go first today?

How about you, Joyce?

Me?

All right.

I have two wonderful sons, Greg Jr. and Brian,

and a lovely daughter, Sherry.

One... One day I... caught Junior with his sister.

I can't tell you how awful I thought my children were.

I thought my world had come to an end.

I started drinking heavily.

I just kept seeing them wrapped... their arms around each other.

I kept thinking how handsome my son was.

Not what he was doing,

but how much he reminded me of my husband...

when we were first married.

Passionate...

virile.

You see, my marriage was shaky at the time.

Junior is...

has a wonderful body.

I mean, he...

he's built like a Greek god.

Well... the more I drank,

the more I... fantasized about him being with me.

And later that night, he came up to my room and he... wanted to...

get me to... promise I wouldn't tell his father.

Well, one thing led to another,

and... I tried to fight it,

but I was... weak.

I was really weak.

♪ She's on fire ♪

♪ She's on fire ♪

♪ She can't deny her ♪

♪ Deepest desire ♪

♪ She's on fire ♪ ♪ Loving it so ♪

♪ Oh, oh, oh ,oh ♪

♪ Oh, oh, oh ,oh ♪

Bill comes in, what are you doing here?

I gotta see Jeremy and I gotta see him right now.

He's in a session,

and he's gonna be for at least another hour.

- Oh, shit. - Come on.

What?

Let me get you a drink.

Okay.

Naomi called me this morning.

Really?

- She called you? - Yeah.

School's already called him this morning.

Girls are on their way home.

What did Naomi have to say?

Poor kid, she's scared to death.

She wanted me to talk to Jeremy. That's why I wanted to see him right now.

I don't know what good he can do.

I've already tried to talk to him.

I know my brother. He's a fucking moral tyrant.

But she's a good kid. She's my daughter, not Jeremy's.

Even if he doesn't know it.

I don't want him fucking her head up.

I know what you mean, but you can't talk to him right now.

And I know. You said so.

Every night that Junior's father would leave town on business,

Junior would come up the stairs and slip into bed with me.

I could feel his enormous, hard cock pressing against me.

Oh, I tried to resist.

He would... rub his cock against my wet pussy.

How could I resist it, sliding in and penetrating my body and soul?

How long did you say this... session was going to go on?

Long enough for us.

Just last night I got down on my knees...

and I took him in my mouth.

And just sucking him, I had an orgasm.