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Morning. Morning.
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How's it going? You good? Good, you?
Yeah, not bad.
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I always had this passion of eventually
setting up kind of my own racing team.
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We decided to create the Sapper .com
Racing.
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At the moment, of course, you're re
-driving in the GT3 car.
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Especially after all the right -handed,
when you get that chicane.
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But it's much better like this. There's
so much more confidence on the braking,
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on the entry to the corner. It's just
much more stable.
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What I also enjoy is to see young talent
coming through.
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So that's why to try and create your own
team and seeing that growth of drivers
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also coming through is something that I
enjoy.
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Max, you are the Greek Thai World
Champion. That's absolutely
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Very lovely.
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People sometimes ask me, what do you do
in your free time? And they expect you
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to be something completely different to
anyone else. But I also just enjoy the
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normal stuff.
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He will do everything to win. You see
the competitiveness coming out for sure.
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Hey, you shut up.
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I think my life off track is very
normal.
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You know what I would like right now?
Kebab.
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You know, very simple, how it should be.
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I mean, we're only 55 minutes late.
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I thought you read Magnus the Master.
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He's insane.
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Nice and simple.
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We were thinking
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about something what Max was doing for a
long time in several topics.
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It was Tim Racing, he was very engaged
in GT3.
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And Jos was doing rally.
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And we thought to bring everything under
one umbrella, in one look and feel,
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where Max is basically overviewing all
three pillars, with the passion what he
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has for racing in general.
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My main focus of course is still on F1.
I can't dedicate my own time fully on
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it.
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I mean, it's something that I grew up
with in the back of my mind.
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One day, you know, when let's say F1 is
enough, you don't want to continue
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driving anymore. You want to run your
own team.
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Eventually, I would like to have
Verstappen .com Racing as a team.
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At the moment, we are at a team with our
drivers, with our own libraries and
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sponsors, but the target is to just have
fully your own team.
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My son is driving in the GTM this year,
and we have to learn a lot in GT because
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it's a different ballgame than Formula
1.
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I think it's the toughest GT3 category
out there at the moment. All the good
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drivers are in it, and to come in as a
kind of a rookie with not much
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is tough, but it's a good learning
school.
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Of course, there's moments where he's
maybe not so happy with a certain
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performance, but he will be also the
first one to say how I can do better. So
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it's not just pointing fingers, it's
always pushing me forward to improve and
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learn from my mistakes.
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I'm there to coach him, I'm there to
help him. He sees the data, he sees what
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I'm doing differently to him, and it's
all about processing and learning.
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The car he's driving with at the moment
is still very new, so it's normal that
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you are still learning and finding a lot
of things.
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I jumped in the car myself, so I wanted
to feel what was going on.
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Of
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course,
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it's a new car for him, so just talking
about the buttons, how everything works,
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every car is a little bit different.
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With the handle that's here.
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Actually, if you're in the pit now, if
you press the brake hard and the button
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here on the back of the steering wheel,
then this goes from white to green.
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And now you can... Where is that button?
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Ah, here. Yes.
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You don't have to press it. Just click
once. So now it's activated because it's
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green.
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And then you immediately start when
we're in the air.
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Then you just have a drop start and then
you can just drive away without
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pressing anything. Without pressing
anything? Yes. And when you come back
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I
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think
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he feels the limitation of the car in
the second lap.
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He's steering the car with his body. He
feels everything.
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He knows exactly what the car is missing
to go faster.
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For Thierry, Max is the master.
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He's a three -time world champion, so if
he said you have to do this and this,
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then he's listening.
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The second round, the first time I
really started it, I almost spun it off.
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At the end of the round, I went all the
way to the right.
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And then I went in, I went all the way
to the left.
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I just didn't get the round together,
because theoretically I have seven.
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You get fast in the second sector.
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I had it very difficult because of those
two cells.
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You just didn't feel it there.
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But that's good.
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I think if you have a bit of that
confidence, you can go into that box so
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It's
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still
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warm.
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We don't want to make Max too difficult.
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I think he just woke up.
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Can you see him?
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No,
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quarter over.
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Quarter past nine, huh? That's Max.
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Oh,
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he said 9 .45.
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Breakfast 9 .45, first thing 10 .15. Oh,
10 .15.
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Okay.
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I looked at the schedule, it says 9 .45.
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Arrival. Yeah, but it says 9 .45 to like
10 .05, arrival.
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Breakfast 9 .45 and first thing 10 .15.
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It's time to qualify in Monaco. The
streets here in Monte Carlo.
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Well,
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Max, enjoy your day.
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So welcome everybody to Osher Schleben
as we get set for our first qualifying
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session of the new DTM season 2023.
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When I watch
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my friends racing, I'm probably more
nervous than I ever am in the car myself
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Once you're in control, you know what
you're doing but then someone else is
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controlling their job, right, their
driving.
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Nobody has put in a bank a lap at the
moment. They've all done their system
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checks, their installation lap. They're
back into the pits. There's just two
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cars out on the track at the moment.
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The stopwatch for Thierry is the same as
the stopwatch for the rest.
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On the end, you are competing with the
rest of the field, and Thierry has to
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prove his speed.
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And, of course...
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With Verstappen .com and Red Bull on the
car, we want to compete in the front.
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So he knows what the outlines are. To be
part of this program, he has to
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perform.
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On the end, we want to be competitive.
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I told my son, I'm happy to support you,
but we have to compete in the front.
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I didn't feel super confident.
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Just struggled a lot.
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Then you start, as a driver, to push
even more, try things which are just not
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possible, you know? You just try to
bring more speed into the corner, and
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it's only getting worse.
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I remember just... Talking to yourself
like, what the fuck are you doing, you
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know?
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Nope, little sleep.
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He should
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have, the lap he did at 34, he
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should have slowed it down instead of
then continue pushing.
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You look at the screens and you are just
in the bottom half.
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It's just frustrating because you put so
much effort into it. You try to prepare
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yourself so much and you have moments
where it's going really well and then
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one moment to the other moment it's not
working anymore.
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He did a bit of go -karting here and did
very little, not much at all.
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I think step by step he started to pick
up a little bit the virus of the racing
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as well. So at one point we were like,
well, why don't we give him...
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A go in a GT4 car.
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See how it goes. We did those track
days.
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And you could see, like, with no
basically racing experience, that he
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up quite naturally, I would say.
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He did a drifting course in Germany, and
he was FaceTiming me when he was doing
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his lap.
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Half an hour later, I got the first
picture that he was crashed.
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So... Yeah, it goes with crashes.
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He's racing against guys who grew up
with me, who have a lot of racing
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experience. So it's not easy to
immediately, you know, be in the fight
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them, know exactly what to do.
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But it's good.
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It's the hard way.
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In things you cannot really train, that
just comes naturally.
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It's just that those racing scenarios
and just progressing through a race
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weekend, knowing when to push, when to
be on the limit or not.
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But again, that I also didn't learn in
one or two years. It's just every year
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you just get a bit better at it.
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I'm curious to see how Jos will play.
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He will cheat for sure.
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Look who's behind me.
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This is the director.
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This is Max.
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Well, let's see who's going to win.
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Good morning.
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Good morning.
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Good morning. Yes.
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Yes. Yes.
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Yes. Yes.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Yes.
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Still eating them out.
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I wonder if my dad finds it.
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Cherie is, of course, the son of my
manager, first of all, but I know him
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he was basically born.
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We kind of, you know, like, grew up.
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My first real memory with Max was
probably when I was about six and I had
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remote control Formula One car.
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And he will for sure remember this
story.
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We were playing with the car. He was
like, can I give it a try?
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So I gave the remote control to him. And
about five seconds later, the car ended
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up in the water.
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That was my birthday present gone.
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I need to still ask him if he can get me
a new one.
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During pedal you see more his
competitive side. At the end, you know,
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to win and he will do everything to win.
So he wants to have the best racket, he
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wants to have the best technique
playing, he wants to feel ready so he
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sure that he's fully prepared.
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For me it was also funny seeing kind of
that side in him in a friendship because
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I mean during pedal it's still pretty
relaxed but you see the competitiveness
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coming out for sure.
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Normally they always say you shouldn't
start a business with friends or
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whatever, but it doesn't depend.
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I mean, if I believe and I see that
they're well qualified, then why can you
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be friends?
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Everyone has to do their job to the
best, so at the end of the day, the
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performance, of course, comes over
friendship. But everyone knows that that
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should be, I think, the standard anyway
when you set up a team, that it's not
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there just to have an easygoing time and
I'm there to win.
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I'm not there to just fill up the field.
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I love it.
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Even when you play shit, it's still fun.
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It's all about trying to get better.
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What do you do in the start? Do you just
brake, gas, brake, gas?
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You have to brake the gas a little bit.
Even if you have a turbo lag, you have
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to keep the gas on.
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We try that, but sometimes we get a
gearbox that is too hot.
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Well, then I'll just warm it up a little
bit.
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But like this, a little bit, not of
course, I'm going to put a full rim on
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but just like that.
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It's always good to come to a test day
where there's no pressure, there's no
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around. You can just focus on your own
things and also try a lot of different
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things to really know what direction to
go to.
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struggle a little bit it's the on the
curb the car on the front doesn't seem
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absorb the curb very nice it's like the
car was very oversteering which i
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normally don't mind but it was too much
i i want to feel under like
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try to get to an understeer balance
because every corner i'm just fighting
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rear yeah it just feels a bit light on
the rear the more you can find there
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When he was speaking, it was getting
straight on the point.
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And also for the magnitude of the issue,
it was clear how much I had to do.
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Because, of course, being an F1, they
listen to you a little bit more.
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It's normal.
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Cherie is a bit more of a rookie.
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And, of course, the engineers are also
quite stubborn. That's how they are.
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I think he was already complaining a
bit, like, ah, the car's a bit on the
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opposite side. It's not, you know, very
stable on the rear. But they were like,
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yeah. Do we trust his feedback fully or
not?
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But then I jumped in the car and I said
the same thing to what Cherie said.
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That's also very important for them to
know that what I say is the same as
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Cherie's, so they can trust his
feedback.
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I had a lot of interaction with
different drivers in the past, also
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important drivers, but no one, let's
say, at the level of Mark.
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You know, everyone can do a fast lap.
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probably the least hardest thing but
it's also understanding why you did a
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lap or understand where can i improve
more just work for it like you know work
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hard understand the mechanical side of
the cars as well the whole package that
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needs to come together and that's what i
try to explain step by step
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I think also what I feel this car... I
think it's commitment and
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it's precision.
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Always looking to the details, which I
try to do the best myself.
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But I think with the experience he has,
he's really good at that and always
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thinking in advance.
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It's very quick with the talk process.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I don't know.
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I'm really curious.
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Look at our top speed this now.
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They're up 20. They gave us 20. Fucking
hell, green, mate.
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See him go directly up to speed.
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Everyone at one point can put a quite
quick lap.
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But for him it just comes so quick. Even
if it's a new car, he can just drive
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around the problems and use his talent
and his experience to directly be on the
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pace.
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I know what to expect from this kind of
guy.
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In this case was something really
unexpected in a way that he was
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lap time at a level which normally is
not existing in the real life. So you
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surprised even if you expect.
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So yes, then you remember it's something
to say.
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with your friends when you are in the
future in the bar
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you could just see the eyes
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lit up from end of day one to day two
and you could see the comfort in the
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behavior for them it's like when we did
the lap time they're like wow you know
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the car is quick we made it quick it
really feels a lot quicker like feels
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a different car
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So again, it's like a whole boost to the
team at the end of the day. So they all
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went to the next race, I think, full of
confidence that, yes, now we have a car
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that we can fight up front.
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So it was great to be in Mugello because
over the two days I gained a lot of
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confidence back.
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I think also with the team, they started
to trust me a bit more, maybe with
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certain set -up feedback.
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So it just kind of makes you forget the
bad moments before and like a fresh
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start for the next weekend.
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Looks so good, I like the way it moves.
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Unbelievable guys.
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You deserve that. What an unbelievable
season we're having.
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Unbelievable. Large and in charge.
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Because I did Max Verstappen, what a
great race, and he stinted on medium.
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Later, when this race was.
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Yes, because it's very soft and very
painful, of course.
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Yes, and it doesn't really hurt.
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But yes, that's what it is. But why were
you lower in pressure compared to the
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tests? Yes, I think the temperature is
just lower and that's why it came up
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quickly. But is it colder now than
Friday?
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Yes, it's a lot colder.
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Yes, it's something to be learned for
the next time.
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I'll tell you that, yes.
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I'm curious. We're trying to follow the
plane.
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Hopefully it's a bit okay.
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Well, that's good.
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I'll let you know later.
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Hopefully we'll have a good trip.
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Yes. That's good. Good luck there.
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Bye bye. Bye bye.
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Bye bye.
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Any more tips, dad?
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What did he say? Any more tips?
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Yes.
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Let him go first.
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And take a little more speed with you.
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Next question.
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Okay.
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From GT4 into Porsche Cup to now into
GT3.
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Yeah, it's a tough learning school, but
he's around, he's there. So I see the
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potential is there.
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I think in one or two years, you know,
like he can pick up so much more
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experience and then you become a more
all -rounded driver.
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Okay.
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Easy.
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I'm pretty confident that he can really
fight for, you know, race wins and who
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knows.
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Championship.
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