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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,870 --> 00:00:07,950 So here's the thing about the National Forest. 2 00:00:08,010 --> 00:00:11,450 If you enjoy isolating yourself from the real world, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,920 a criminal has that same opportunity. 4 00:00:13,990 --> 00:00:18,070 - You don't expect to encounter a monster on a hiking trail. 5 00:00:18,130 --> 00:00:20,700 In northeast Georgia, a search continues 6 00:00:20,770 --> 00:00:22,740 for a missing 24-year-old hiker. 7 00:00:22,810 --> 00:00:25,610 It is impossible to commit a crime 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,750 without leaving evidence. 9 00:00:27,820 --> 00:00:31,290 - There's not much chance that she's still alive. 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,800 - And I realized that I was a potential victim. 11 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:39,780 - He is acting out hunting scenes from a movie. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,756 Young women being set loose in the forest 13 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:43,380 and then hunted down and murdered. 14 00:00:44,350 --> 00:00:45,630 - Everybody was looking for him. 15 00:00:45,690 --> 00:00:46,820 Emergency 911. 16 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:53,270 - At some point, there will be more victims. 17 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:55,670 I got a really weird feeling. 18 00:00:55,740 --> 00:00:57,240 This is a human skull. 19 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:59,680 - It's the stuff of nightmares. 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,260 - One of the most vile murderers 21 00:01:06,330 --> 00:01:07,330 I've ever dealt with. 22 00:01:09,130 --> 00:01:11,240 Secrets in the wild. 23 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:14,640 Beautiful, yet treacherous places. 24 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:17,250 These are the stories of the investigators 25 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,760 who solve crimes in the wilderness. 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,430 We're at the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. 27 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:44,500 It's steep, it's rugged, and it's mountainous. 28 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:49,550 Lots of lakes, streams. 29 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:51,050 Lots of hiking, lots of camping. 30 00:01:54,220 --> 00:01:55,566 The mountains of north Georgia 31 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:57,730 offer a lot of opportunities for the people 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,040 who live and come to this area. 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,820 - It's managed to be more remote and more pristine, 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,490 like its natural state, than other parts 35 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:10,190 of the National Forest. 36 00:02:10,260 --> 00:02:14,600 So backup or law enforcement assistance may be hours away. 37 00:02:14,660 --> 00:02:17,670 - People do let their guard down some up here, 38 00:02:17,740 --> 00:02:20,580 but they should remember that sometimes, 39 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,580 bad things happen in good places. 40 00:02:28,260 --> 00:02:31,570 The first day I met Meredith, I remembered, 41 00:02:31,630 --> 00:02:36,510 because she had a very unique and smart personality. 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,920 You felt connected to her from the first time you met her. 43 00:02:48,870 --> 00:02:52,640 There's a lot of questions and a lot of whys 44 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:55,680 that we'll never know the answer to. 45 00:02:58,180 --> 00:03:04,130 You never really know when you might not see someone again. 46 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:09,340 On January 2, 2008, 47 00:03:09,410 --> 00:03:11,010 the Union County Sheriff's Office 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,050 got a call of a missing hiker that was up on Blood Mountain. 49 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,290 Her name was Meredith Emerson. 50 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,740 The call came in from her roommate... 51 00:03:26,810 --> 00:03:30,580 Saying that Meredith had left a note that she went hiking, 52 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:32,690 and never came home. 53 00:03:32,750 --> 00:03:34,420 She left me a note that just said, 54 00:03:34,490 --> 00:03:35,930 "Gone hiking, took Ella." 55 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:37,930 Um, and that was normal. 56 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,530 She would normally just take her dog. 57 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,970 She loved to do, and take her dog hiking. 58 00:03:43,510 --> 00:03:45,910 She got a little worried. 59 00:03:45,980 --> 00:03:48,790 Meredith did not come home overnight. 60 00:03:48,850 --> 00:03:51,090 And that's when she made the phone call 61 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,800 to Union County for us to go up there and check. 62 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,540 Her boyfriend located her car in the parking lot 63 00:03:58,610 --> 00:04:01,710 of the Byron Herbert Reece connector trail. 64 00:04:01,780 --> 00:04:04,080 He had left a yellow sticky note on it, 65 00:04:04,150 --> 00:04:05,220 telling her to stay there, 66 00:04:05,290 --> 00:04:07,820 that they were looking for her. 67 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,110 As a patrolman, we would get 68 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:18,810 these missing hiker cases all over the state. 69 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,020 Somebody overestimated how fast they could get from point A 70 00:04:22,090 --> 00:04:24,560 to point B and popped out on a different part of the trail, 71 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:26,730 not where they left their car. 72 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,630 So nobody really got overly worried 73 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,940 initially on this case. 74 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:37,380 When we arrived at the trailhead, 75 00:04:37,450 --> 00:04:39,990 Meredith's friends were already there. 76 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:41,860 They started putting search teams together 77 00:04:41,930 --> 00:04:45,330 to go out and search the woods. 78 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:48,046 Blood Mountain is a part of 79 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:50,240 the Chattahoochee-Oconee National Forest 80 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:53,210 in very close proximity to the Appalachian Trail. 81 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:58,060 Atlanta is not very far away, but you'll find yourself 82 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,000 in a totally different area where 83 00:05:00,060 --> 00:05:02,330 it's very rugged and remote. 84 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,740 If you get off the road itself, there's nothing. 85 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:07,640 It's wilderness. 86 00:05:07,710 --> 00:05:10,850 There's no houses, there's no neighborhoods to speak of. 87 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,820 From the parking lot 88 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:15,190 at Byron Herbert Reece Memorial Trail 89 00:05:15,260 --> 00:05:20,700 to the peak, round trip, is a little over four miles. 90 00:05:20,770 --> 00:05:24,010 People come there to get away, to let their guard down, 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,020 which makes them a little bit more vulnerable. 92 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,060 The fact that you have somebody hiking on 93 00:05:32,130 --> 00:05:35,230 a heavily-used trail in the middle of the day 94 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:39,710 just vanish, is extremely unheard of. 95 00:05:41,610 --> 00:05:43,980 - As time went on, we became a little bit 96 00:05:44,050 --> 00:05:47,920 more concerned that maybe some foul play might be involved. 97 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:49,390 This was getting 98 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:51,630 a lot bigger than what we expected. 99 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:54,740 And that's when we called in the GBI. 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,980 GBI stands for Georgia Bureau of Investigation, 101 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 created to assist local law enforcement. 102 00:06:00,950 --> 00:06:02,990 We get requested by the chief of police, 103 00:06:03,050 --> 00:06:04,436 the sheriff, the district attorneys, 104 00:06:04,460 --> 00:06:05,860 Superior Court judges. 105 00:06:05,930 --> 00:06:07,800 The more rural areas have limited resources. 106 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:10,970 They tend to lean on the GBI more than the urban areas. 107 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,580 GBI brings in a level of specialization 108 00:06:15,650 --> 00:06:18,550 and can concentrate with the sheriff's department 109 00:06:18,620 --> 00:06:21,160 on conducting the investigation 110 00:06:21,220 --> 00:06:25,700 into Meredith Emerson's disappearance. 111 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:37,860 My name is John Cagle. 112 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,200 I was the Special Agent in charge 113 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:42,000 of the GBI Regional Office. 114 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:43,716 The Union County Sheriff's Office called me 115 00:06:43,740 --> 00:06:48,080 about 9:00 on the night of January 2. 116 00:06:48,140 --> 00:06:50,780 We knew it was going to take us all to go to Blood Mountain 117 00:06:50,850 --> 00:06:52,490 and get this thing organized. 118 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,470 The GBI has been requested to join in this effort. 119 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:03,340 We have GBI agents on site here, 120 00:07:03,410 --> 00:07:05,650 as well as other law enforcement personnel 121 00:07:05,710 --> 00:07:07,250 from many different agencies. 122 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,390 John is a true mountain man. 123 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:13,160 He's one of the best GBI agents I ever worked with. 124 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:15,230 The motto that I tried to live by 125 00:07:15,300 --> 00:07:16,900 was never get too close. 126 00:07:16,970 --> 00:07:19,710 Never let it get personal. 127 00:07:19,770 --> 00:07:21,610 And I was able to maintain that 128 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,560 until the Meredith Emerson case. 129 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:28,296 Friends of Meredith Emerson sent this picture 130 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,300 to us showing Emerson and her dog. 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,500 They hope it will help authorities find her. 132 00:07:32,570 --> 00:07:34,940 The search for Emerson is taking place on Blood Mountain 133 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:37,180 in Union County right now. 134 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,010 - Meredith's roommate got a lot of media contacts 135 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,090 and sent the world to Blood Mountain. 136 00:07:43,150 --> 00:07:45,390 The one thing we know, if Meredith is there, 137 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:47,000 then her dog is there. 138 00:07:47,060 --> 00:07:50,200 And, um... and just wouldn't leave her side for anything. 139 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:52,710 So, uh, we're hopeful that if they're out there, 140 00:07:52,770 --> 00:07:54,980 that they're together. 141 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,080 So they prepared some posters with a picture 142 00:07:57,150 --> 00:07:58,650 of Meredith that she was missing. 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,060 So they got the word out fairly quickly, too, 144 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,160 to their friends and their network of friends. 145 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:05,970 I went to school with Meredith. 146 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:07,300 Been best friends with Meredith 147 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:08,570 for about six years now. 148 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,280 So, you know, knowing her, 149 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:13,010 everything's going to end up OK 150 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,490 and we're just going to be out here for her until it is. 151 00:08:16,420 --> 00:08:19,090 We do something called victimology 152 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,730 to find out just as much as we could 153 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,030 about Meredith Hope Emerson... 154 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,780 her habits, who she hung out with, what she liked to do. 155 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,110 She was 24 years old 156 00:08:29,180 --> 00:08:31,950 and graduated from the University of Georgia. 157 00:08:32,020 --> 00:08:35,990 And then she adopted her dog, Ella. 158 00:08:40,170 --> 00:08:41,810 Meredith was not the kind of person 159 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:43,810 that would just disappear. 160 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,850 As soon as she didn't come home, 161 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:49,220 then everybody's radar went up. 162 00:08:49,290 --> 00:08:52,290 Growing up in Colorado and being an experienced hiker 163 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,930 that, um, that we are, we are hopeful, 164 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,940 um, but of course, we're also, you know, scared. 165 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,450 - The more we found out about her and her abilities, 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,360 this is probably not an injured hiker 167 00:09:07,420 --> 00:09:11,800 or somebody who got lost on the trail. 168 00:09:11,870 --> 00:09:13,916 Family and friends have been gathering here, 169 00:09:13,940 --> 00:09:16,010 and of course, are staying in close contact 170 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:17,880 with the law enforcement authorities. 171 00:09:19,810 --> 00:09:21,050 In a missing persons case, 172 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,920 you always want to talk with the boyfriend 173 00:09:22,990 --> 00:09:25,030 or the husband or wife. 174 00:09:25,090 --> 00:09:26,760 Were they troubled? Were they mad? 175 00:09:26,830 --> 00:09:28,600 Were they upset about something? 176 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:32,316 The Union County Sheriff's Office 177 00:09:32,340 --> 00:09:34,240 actually thought that the boyfriend might 178 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:36,250 be involved in the disappearance of Meredith. 179 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:41,790 - She's alone wherever she is, 180 00:09:41,860 --> 00:09:43,730 and it's probably very silent there. 181 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,200 It's probably very cold there. 182 00:09:46,970 --> 00:09:51,080 He was very dry, unemotional. 183 00:09:51,140 --> 00:09:54,150 So our Spidey senses definitely went up. 184 00:09:55,890 --> 00:09:57,720 He found her car. 185 00:09:57,790 --> 00:10:00,060 He knew where to look. 186 00:10:00,130 --> 00:10:03,600 That was strange, in and of itself. 187 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:07,210 Things started stacking against him pretty quickly. 188 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:10,850 He told us they had plans 189 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,390 and they talked that morning 190 00:10:12,450 --> 00:10:15,320 and the plans changed, and Meredith decided 191 00:10:15,390 --> 00:10:17,060 just to take Ella and go hiking. 192 00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:20,576 When you're dealing with somebody missing 193 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,540 that you think something may have happened to, 194 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:25,380 90% of all cases 195 00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:27,520 tends to go toward someone that you know, 196 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:28,850 someone that knows you. 197 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,000 He said he was with friends 198 00:10:35,070 --> 00:10:36,500 in metro Atlanta that day. 199 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:38,910 We confirmed that with those friends. 200 00:10:38,970 --> 00:10:41,110 We also accessed his phone records, 201 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:46,020 which showed that his phone was in metro Atlanta all day. 202 00:10:46,090 --> 00:10:48,060 It was very clear that he was nowhere near 203 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,260 Blood Mountain on January 1. 204 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,400 In northeast Georgia, 205 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,070 a search continues in the woods 206 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:58,210 for a missing 24-year-old hiker. 207 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,550 - Meredith! 208 00:10:59,610 --> 00:11:02,020 We had hundreds and hundreds of volunteers 209 00:11:02,090 --> 00:11:03,620 that were scouring the mountain, 210 00:11:03,690 --> 00:11:05,130 looking for any evidence or clues 211 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:08,800 that, uh, would give us a direction. 212 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:10,500 - We literally just hit the ground. 213 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:12,010 Meredith! 214 00:11:12,070 --> 00:11:13,656 There were a number of civilian searchers 215 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:14,980 that were out there. 216 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,326 So we try to say, look, if you find something 217 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:18,150 you think is important, don't touch it, 218 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:19,850 don't pick it up, hold what you have, 219 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,330 let us come photograph it, collect it. 220 00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:24,430 But as 48 hours ticked by, 221 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:27,070 no sign of the woman, nor her dog. 222 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:30,410 And in this case, we needed help. 223 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,880 So one thing we always do in these kinds of cases, 224 00:11:33,950 --> 00:11:36,690 we try to rapidly set up a tip line, 225 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:38,490 so that the public can call. 226 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:41,030 We want to talk to anybody who saw Meredith 227 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:43,070 on the trail New Years Day. 228 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:45,870 - We got to ask the public who have seen something 229 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:49,880 or heard something to get in touch with us. 230 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,640 My father-in-law was looking at 231 00:12:03,710 --> 00:12:06,480 retiring in Georgia, and he loves to hike. 232 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:08,350 It was New Year's morning and I was like, 233 00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:10,420 hey, we should go hike Blood Mountain. 234 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:16,070 It's about an hour and a half from our house. 235 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:20,210 It was a beautiful morning. It was nice and sunny. 236 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,620 I would say there's probably 30 to 40 people 237 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,960 in various places all throughout the mountain. 238 00:12:28,690 --> 00:12:30,800 We were not very far in, 239 00:12:30,860 --> 00:12:35,000 maybe 3/4 of a mile into the trail. 240 00:12:35,070 --> 00:12:38,110 Meredith was jogging down the mountain. 241 00:12:38,180 --> 00:12:39,486 I wouldn't have even noticed, because there were 242 00:12:39,510 --> 00:12:40,990 a lot of people on the trail that day, 243 00:12:41,050 --> 00:12:42,550 except for the fact that 244 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:45,030 I have these two crazy dogs that were puppies. 245 00:12:45,090 --> 00:12:47,500 She had a dog, and my dogs immediately 246 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:49,370 ran up to her and her dog. 247 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:51,870 So I was like, I'm sorry, sorry. 248 00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:55,050 And she's like, it's fine, it's fine. 249 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:58,550 And after we passed by her, 250 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:00,990 the next person I saw was this old guy 251 00:13:01,060 --> 00:13:03,130 in a yellow and black North Face jacket 252 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:06,970 walking down the mountain with his dog. 253 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:11,110 He intentionally avoided us off the trail. 254 00:13:11,180 --> 00:13:13,180 That caught my eye a little, just because everybody 255 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:14,820 kind of stays on the trail, 256 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,690 and he just went around. 257 00:13:16,750 --> 00:13:18,590 Like, it didn't feel right. 258 00:13:18,660 --> 00:13:20,960 It didn't feel... 259 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:23,270 it didn't feel normal. 260 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,956 Another witness had seen Meredith Emerson 261 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:32,420 on January 1 hiking. 262 00:13:32,490 --> 00:13:34,720 And he had also seen a strange-looking individual 263 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:38,300 that seemed to be trying to catch up to her. 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,170 The guy he described was a man in his 50s or 60s. 265 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,340 He was wearing high-end hiking gear. 266 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:47,150 He had a police-style baton, 267 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:51,160 had a bayonet knife on his belt. 268 00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:53,130 What he couldn't shake, was the fact that 269 00:13:53,190 --> 00:13:55,100 he had duct tape on his shoes. 270 00:14:00,110 --> 00:14:02,880 Somebody that's a very experienced hiker, 271 00:14:02,950 --> 00:14:05,490 why would you have duct tape on your shoes? 272 00:14:05,550 --> 00:14:09,330 He didn't give much credence to it at first. 273 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:12,700 But when he was coming back down the trail after hiking, 274 00:14:12,770 --> 00:14:15,970 he noticed two water bottles, 275 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,610 a dog leash, 276 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:22,290 and the expandable police baton on the ground. 277 00:14:22,350 --> 00:14:26,230 - A police baton, it is an expandable baton. 278 00:14:26,290 --> 00:14:31,270 It can go from this short to this long. 279 00:14:31,340 --> 00:14:35,650 It is used to subdue a person to get them to comply. 280 00:14:37,650 --> 00:14:39,950 - It's just not normal to see that on someone 281 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:42,190 other than a police officer. 282 00:14:58,630 --> 00:15:00,266 Some of the reports that we had gotten, 283 00:15:00,290 --> 00:15:04,240 was that along this area in these rocks, 284 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:06,540 they had seen a man kind of crouching down 285 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:09,710 behind the rocks, hiding in this area. 286 00:15:09,780 --> 00:15:12,390 And didn't know exactly what he was doing. 287 00:15:12,450 --> 00:15:16,390 Right at this switchback is where he had found the items. 288 00:15:16,460 --> 00:15:18,200 He said that there was disturbed earth 289 00:15:18,260 --> 00:15:20,070 between this trail and this trail 290 00:15:20,130 --> 00:15:21,940 where it looked like somebody had tumbled off 291 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,940 the trail down to the other. 292 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:29,120 And within that area, he had found the water bottles, 293 00:15:29,190 --> 00:15:32,230 police-style baton, and the dog leash, 294 00:15:32,290 --> 00:15:35,260 and the dog treats. 295 00:15:35,330 --> 00:15:37,570 And the fact that that baton had been found 296 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,040 near items we believed belonged to Meredith, 297 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:43,950 it just scared us to death. 298 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:49,730 This trail on January 1, 2008, had to be a real busy day. 299 00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:52,030 And it had to happen so quickly 300 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:53,246 with that number of people on the trail... 301 00:15:53,270 --> 00:15:54,500 I just don't understand how. 302 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:56,580 There might have been somebody else coming down 303 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,956 that would have heard the commotion 304 00:15:57,980 --> 00:16:00,920 and heard her scream. 305 00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:02,850 This had to be the spot. 306 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,260 She's alone, 307 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,800 and it didn't take long. 308 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,440 I was with my husband, 309 00:16:13,510 --> 00:16:16,010 my father, my stepmother, and a friend. 310 00:16:22,660 --> 00:16:24,500 It was cold, so I started walking 311 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,370 a little faster than my group. 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,280 I turned back and I saw that a man had cut in front of them 313 00:16:32,350 --> 00:16:36,050 and was coming towards me. 314 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,890 As I stepped aside for him to pass me, 315 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,300 I started talking about his dog. 316 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:45,240 I was like, wow, what a beautiful dog. 317 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:46,640 What's her name? 318 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:50,980 He said, his name's Dandy, like a fancy dresser. 319 00:16:51,050 --> 00:16:53,590 Didn't look at him, I was looking at his dog. 320 00:16:53,660 --> 00:16:55,290 When I saw his face, I was like, 321 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,360 this guy's very creepy. 322 00:16:59,870 --> 00:17:01,670 And all of a sudden he goes, you know, 323 00:17:01,740 --> 00:17:04,180 I get so pissed off when I come up here, 324 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,280 because people are not prepared. 325 00:17:06,350 --> 00:17:07,680 He was like, you know, 326 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:10,350 most people carry cell phones these days. 327 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,060 Do you have a cell phone with you? 328 00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:15,100 I was like, well, no. 329 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,270 And he was like, well, are you alone? 330 00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:21,640 As we got to that point where the trail split, 331 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:24,680 my father had caught up to me and was right behind me. 332 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:26,820 I was like, well, it was nice talking to you. 333 00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:31,660 And I didn't really think anything more about it. 334 00:17:31,730 --> 00:17:34,640 And then days later 335 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:39,350 when we found out that Meredith was missing, 336 00:17:39,410 --> 00:17:42,090 everything crashed in 337 00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:46,330 and I realized that I was... 338 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:49,770 a potential victim. 339 00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:54,280 He was hunting people on New Year's Eve. 340 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:56,550 Had she been alone, 341 00:17:56,620 --> 00:18:01,290 then he would have had a victim New Year's Eve. 342 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:02,830 The focus pretty quickly 343 00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:05,060 became that Meredith Emerson had been abducted. 344 00:18:07,540 --> 00:18:11,140 - Things were changing very, very rapidly. 345 00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:13,410 We literally were some of the last people 346 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,980 off the mountain that day. 347 00:18:15,050 --> 00:18:18,160 And when we got down there, almost to the parking lot, 348 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:19,630 I only saw two cars. 349 00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:24,070 I saw the white Astrovan, and like a little smaller car. 350 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,510 Through our interviews with some witnesses, 351 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:29,710 one of them had taken a photograph. 352 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:31,356 And in the background, 353 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:33,660 you could see a man standing by a white van. 354 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,590 And in that picture, 355 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:39,430 he had on a yellow raincoat. 356 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,076 We knew we were on the right track, 357 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:44,110 because of the consistency of all those witnesses 358 00:18:44,180 --> 00:18:45,850 that we wanted to find this man. 359 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:47,880 - Meredith Emerson has been missing now 360 00:18:47,950 --> 00:18:49,290 for two bitterly cold nights. 361 00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:51,290 We just received information from authorities 362 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,866 that they have named a person of interest 363 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,030 in her disappearance. 364 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:55,500 Authorities are looking for 365 00:18:55,570 --> 00:18:58,440 a 50 to 60-year-old white man, about 160 pounds. 366 00:18:58,510 --> 00:19:00,340 He had a dark reddish retriever 367 00:19:00,410 --> 00:19:02,250 and was wearing a yellow jacket and backpack. 368 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:04,850 They are hoping that they will be able to find Emerson alive. 369 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:09,090 - We began to get a lot of information 370 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,306 coming in through the tip line. 371 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 We were literally getting thousands of calls. 372 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:17,580 Some, you could dismiss relatively quickly, 373 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,880 but some of them wound up being extremely valuable. 374 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:23,120 That's when we got a very critical call 375 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:27,700 that just scared everybody. 376 00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:31,070 On January 3, 377 00:19:31,140 --> 00:19:32,470 we received a telephone call 378 00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:34,410 from North Carolina authorities. 379 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,390 It was a Special Agent named Junior Young. 380 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:42,130 He felt like the case that we were investigating 381 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:46,600 was eerily similar to the case that he had in North Carolina. 382 00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:50,070 - He said the person that we were looking for in our case 383 00:19:50,140 --> 00:19:53,520 matched the description of a person they were looking for 384 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:55,590 in an abduction and murder case 385 00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:58,290 in the Pisgah National Forest. 386 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,480 We're overlooking the Pisgah National Forest 387 00:20:09,550 --> 00:20:12,590 on the Pisgah Ranger District here. 388 00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:16,490 Primarily, the area here in Transylvania County. 389 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,570 This was my office. 390 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:21,070 This is where I worked. 391 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:23,010 Great views. 392 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:25,480 Unfortunately, for a few, 393 00:20:25,550 --> 00:20:28,420 this is not such a great place. 394 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,730 My name is Harold Young, Jr. 395 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,530 I'm a retired special agent 396 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,540 with the United States Forest Service. 397 00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:44,080 The Pisgah Ranger District is comprised of approximately 398 00:20:44,150 --> 00:20:45,850 162,000 acres. 399 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,730 That's just this district alone. 400 00:20:48,790 --> 00:20:51,630 For me as an investigator with the forest service, 401 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:57,010 I just primarily focused on crimes in a National Forest. 402 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,680 On November 6, 2007, I was working in my office 403 00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:05,060 and the front desk person at the, uh, visitor center 404 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,200 came back and said there's a gentleman out here, 405 00:21:07,260 --> 00:21:11,440 would like to talk to you about his missing parents. 406 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,480 It was Robert Bryant, 407 00:21:15,550 --> 00:21:18,850 the son of John and Irene Bryant. 408 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,190 He explained to me that somewhere in the vicinity 409 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:24,100 of about two weeks, he had lost contact with them 410 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,430 on October the 21st. 411 00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:31,680 He was trying to figure out what location 412 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:35,220 he needed to focus to try to find his parents. 413 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:42,530 John and Irene Bryant 414 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,240 moved here about the same time we did. 415 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:47,910 And we knew 'em for six, seven years. 416 00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:51,980 And they were directly across the street. 417 00:21:52,050 --> 00:21:54,060 John was... you know, I would call him 418 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:57,100 a self-effacing individual, 419 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,570 an attorney by trade, and a very smart guy. 420 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,980 But you would never know it. 421 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,680 You would just think he was just a Joe next door. 422 00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:10,250 Irene Bryant was a veterinarian 423 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,960 most of her working life. 424 00:22:13,030 --> 00:22:18,000 They were a great couple, easy to get along with. 425 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:19,510 Easy to like. 426 00:22:23,850 --> 00:22:28,760 I believe it was the love of the mountains 427 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:32,430 that brought John and Irene to Western North Carolina. 428 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:41,680 Folks on our street started noticing 429 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:44,960 the newspapers were piling up on the doorstep. 430 00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:48,100 And we all started getting a little concerned. 431 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,810 The sheriff called John and Irene's son. 432 00:22:56,410 --> 00:23:00,320 Bob flew up the next day from Texas and knocked on my door. 433 00:23:00,390 --> 00:23:04,760 Said, Matt, do you know where the key is to my dad's house? 434 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:09,840 I said, no, but let's go break in. 435 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:12,110 And Bob knew I think right away 436 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:16,190 that something bad was happening, or had happened. 437 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:22,230 The fruit was in the fruit bowl, had already rotted. 438 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,700 And there was laundry in the washing machine 439 00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:27,810 that hadn't been laundered. 440 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,520 It was an eerie feeling, because you were breaking 441 00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:32,490 into someone's house that hadn't been there 442 00:23:32,550 --> 00:23:35,560 for, you know, a week or more. 443 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,270 We said, this is not good. 444 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:45,310 Robert had found several photographs of them 445 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:47,250 in the Pisgah National Forest, 446 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,690 and he explained that they loved to come up 447 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:51,890 into the forest and hike. 448 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,300 And he felt like, based on photographs, 449 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,930 that they frequented the area 450 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,470 near the Pisgah Ranger District. 451 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:04,680 I suggested he focus on the area around the fish hatchery 452 00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:06,990 and cut off of that onto Yellow Gap Road, 453 00:24:07,050 --> 00:24:09,390 which circles back into Hendersonville 454 00:24:09,460 --> 00:24:12,030 where the Bryants lived. 455 00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:19,980 Probably about 45 minutes to an hour later, 456 00:24:20,050 --> 00:24:21,850 Robert returns to my office and he said, 457 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,590 I found my dad's vehicle, 458 00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:28,730 which kind of sent a few cold chills down my spine. 459 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:35,040 So, showed me exactly where the car is, and in the meantime, 460 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:36,786 I'm calling a rescue squad to get them up here 461 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:39,790 and we'll start a search. 462 00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:43,530 - In the rescue squad, we have been very active 463 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,100 in years past for search for lost persons 464 00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:50,980 and rescues of injured persons on trails. 465 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,880 Pisgah National Forest is very widespread 466 00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:57,720 with various areas of terrain. 467 00:24:57,790 --> 00:25:02,030 It is very dense in a lot of locations. 468 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:06,470 This is Transylvania County, which means across the valley. 469 00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:08,550 Of course, people associate us more 470 00:25:08,610 --> 00:25:12,950 with the typical Transylvania stigma of vampires and bats 471 00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:14,920 and Dracula and all that. 472 00:25:14,990 --> 00:25:16,590 We do have a lot of bats. 473 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:22,610 This is our busiest recreation area 474 00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:24,410 and time of year. 475 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,980 The fall of the year, 476 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:30,590 this area is just unbelievably beautiful. 477 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:33,090 So at the time that they disappeared, 478 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,630 there would have been an unbelievable amount 479 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,440 of visitors in the National Forest. 480 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,050 I followed Robert up to where the car was located 481 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,630 in a little parking area right beside the trail 482 00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:50,730 at Bennett Gap. 483 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,160 You could see all of the dust 484 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:54,740 that had accumulated on the car, 485 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,780 so obviously, it had been there a while. 486 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,380 The car was not broken into. 487 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:02,050 The car was locked. 488 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:06,490 And there didn't seem to be anything amiss with the car. 489 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,930 We start getting maps out, 490 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,440 look at where the vehicle's located, 491 00:26:12,510 --> 00:26:15,880 and we consider that what we call a point last seen. 492 00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:19,750 And deploy personnel on various trails 493 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:23,030 that the lost persons could have taken. 494 00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:29,610 - I want to be involved, because this was my... 495 00:26:29,670 --> 00:26:31,640 my neighborhood, my patrol area. 496 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,390 Out of the 400 miles of roads and trails, 497 00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:40,860 Yellow Gap Road was one of the main roads I patrolled. 498 00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:44,100 And it was an all-out search. 499 00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:48,650 Then after, say eight, 10, 12 hour-day, you go home. 500 00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:53,790 And then you start the process all over again the next day. 501 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:55,990 We had been unsuccessful 502 00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:58,200 in locating anything 503 00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:01,340 related to them on all the trails. 504 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:05,580 Something's just not adding up. 505 00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:08,650 We need to change the focus of this search 506 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,120 and do a much more methodical search 507 00:27:12,190 --> 00:27:14,560 from a law enforcement perspective at that point. 508 00:27:15,930 --> 00:27:17,230 We're looking for a body. 509 00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:18,780 We're looking for a piece of clothing. 510 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,580 We're looking for a purse, maybe. 511 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,420 We're looking for a wallet that they may have dropped. 512 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,060 We formalized a plan to start doing a grid search. 513 00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:32,100 Basically, start walking through an area, 514 00:27:32,170 --> 00:27:35,610 arms width apart, looking at everything on the ground 515 00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:38,440 and covering a certain area. 516 00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:40,250 - Did not take very long at all 517 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:43,450 before we unfortunately found Ms. Bryant. 518 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,470 We responded, and a little bit of frustration 519 00:27:50,540 --> 00:27:51,900 and embarrassment. 520 00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:53,970 The body was found 521 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,750 maybe 150 feet from the car. 522 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,990 When I arrived at the scene, 523 00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:03,730 rescue squad members met me here 524 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,700 and they pointed this direction and said, 525 00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:08,140 we found skeletal remains down here. 526 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,180 They pointed down this direction here. 527 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,650 We walked down this area, keeping in mind, 528 00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:15,180 that particular day, 529 00:28:15,250 --> 00:28:19,460 all the foliage was much greater than it is now. 530 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:22,300 At about this point, I could see skeletal remains 531 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,440 and some clothing items laying on the ground 532 00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,340 just in front of me here, about 30 feet. 533 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:30,410 I was confident we had a criminal investigation 534 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,190 because the proximity to the car, just... 535 00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:35,590 there was no reason for that body to be here. 536 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:37,290 But I immediately... 537 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,940 I'm starting to look around. And where is John? 538 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,820 The perpetrator did not want Irene Bryant found, 539 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,560 at least immediately. 540 00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:55,160 She was in a state of decomposition, 541 00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:57,270 and it was apparent to us 542 00:28:57,340 --> 00:29:00,680 that she had suffered some sort of blunt force trauma 543 00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:03,580 to her head. 544 00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:08,190 Up close and personal in contact with the victim, 545 00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:13,640 overpowering her with an object to the head. 546 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:15,770 Maybe something round, 547 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,410 uh, like a piece of pipe or something 548 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,710 similar to that. 549 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:25,120 And the scene was... 550 00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:28,630 I'm trying to think of a decent way to say... 551 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,870 had been disturbed by wildlife in the area. 552 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,780 - The collection of evidence always 553 00:29:36,850 --> 00:29:39,120 revolves around timeliness. 554 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:41,390 At this point, the leaves are starting to fall, 555 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:46,000 so you have even further camouflage, if you will. 556 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,810 So we began to document that area through photographs 557 00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:53,350 and try to collect as much evidence as we could. 558 00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:58,560 We started processing the car for evidence. 559 00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:01,530 Latent fingerprints, fibers, 560 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,670 anything that could possibly lead to a suspect. 561 00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:07,310 My experience has always been, 562 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:09,310 especially in murder investigations, 563 00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:11,180 it's the small things that solve the crimes. 564 00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:13,390 It's not the large things. 565 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,630 I knew that on board diagnostic tests on cars 566 00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:23,510 could tell mechanics a lot of things about a vehicle. 567 00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:27,010 I had the Bryants' car towed to the local Ford dealership, 568 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,420 and they were able to tell me 569 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,590 that the vehicle was last running 570 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:35,600 on October the 21st at 1:59 p.m. 571 00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:40,510 Based on that information, we started having a timeline. 572 00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:42,910 Everything of our investigation 573 00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:45,990 started at 1:59 p.m. 574 00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:49,890 on the 21st of October. 575 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,130 - The working theory is that they had arrived 576 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,110 back at the vehicle and met someone 577 00:30:56,170 --> 00:31:00,750 who probably attacked at least Ms. Bryant, 578 00:31:00,820 --> 00:31:06,260 and then disposed of her body in that wooded location. 579 00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,260 In terms of a working theory on Mr. Bryant, 580 00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:12,510 I don't know that we necessarily had one. 581 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:14,880 Anything could have been possible. 582 00:31:18,850 --> 00:31:22,430 I got called in to secure her remains 583 00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:25,930 and to prevent people from going beyond 584 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,300 that taped area for the night. 585 00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:32,410 Up until probably 7:00 or 8:00 the next morning... 586 00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:36,120 Her death was on my mind. 587 00:31:36,190 --> 00:31:38,930 And what can I do to make amends, 588 00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:42,670 to right a wrong? 589 00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:44,000 I try not to take it personal, 590 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:46,710 but I took it a little personal that it was under my watch, 591 00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:49,650 and it made me angry. 592 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,726 And I'd like to have five minutes with him in a room, 593 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:54,220 whoever did that. 594 00:31:54,290 --> 00:31:56,690 It's something I'll never forget. 595 00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,140 In reference to what happened 596 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,180 to Robert and the family 597 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,950 after we discovered the body, 598 00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:09,620 I remember when we told him we'd found the... 599 00:32:09,690 --> 00:32:12,560 a body that we believed was his mom. 600 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:15,970 You could tell it's setting in. 601 00:32:16,030 --> 00:32:19,670 "My mom's not coming home." 602 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:21,910 And we don't know where dad is. 603 00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:26,020 And you could see tears in his eyes 604 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:28,720 and he's just reliving his whole life 605 00:32:28,790 --> 00:32:32,770 with his mom that is no longer going to be around. 606 00:32:32,830 --> 00:32:37,240 When they found Irene's body in the National Forest, 607 00:32:37,310 --> 00:32:39,650 that was a tough day. 608 00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:43,550 I think everyone that knew Jack and Irene were totally 609 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:46,890 in disbelief that this could happen 610 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,100 in our little section of Western North Carolina, 611 00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:54,480 and the way it did. 612 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:58,480 You go through a lot of different scenarios 613 00:32:58,550 --> 00:33:00,450 in your mind. 614 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,900 Why was John not with Irene? 615 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,580 When someone wants to conceal evidence 616 00:33:13,650 --> 00:33:17,250 of a crime in a area this vast, 617 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,730 it's extremely difficult to find. 618 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,970 I mean, as far as you can see here, 619 00:33:23,030 --> 00:33:25,340 this is primarily National Forest lands. 620 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,070 And where do you look? 621 00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:31,680 It's hard to imagine 622 00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:34,660 doing a crime scene in this big of an area. 623 00:33:37,290 --> 00:33:38,860 Once we found Irene, 624 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:43,610 I almost became two investigators in one. 625 00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:47,850 One of me was trying to solve who did this horrendous crime 626 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120 to Irene, and the other is, 627 00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:54,260 what have they done or what are they going to do with John? 628 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:59,270 Where is John Bryant? 629 00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:02,580 - In this case, there was pressure to find Mr. Bryant. 630 00:34:02,650 --> 00:34:05,590 There was pressure to find the individual 631 00:34:05,650 --> 00:34:10,760 or individuals responsible for committing these crimes. 632 00:34:10,830 --> 00:34:13,230 We had hundreds of thousands of people 633 00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:17,470 patronize Pisgah National Forest in Transylvania County. 634 00:34:17,540 --> 00:34:20,920 It could be anyone that came into the area from anywhere. 635 00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:25,120 And you have to rely on where they messed up. 636 00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:31,200 - We get the phone records of John Bryant, 637 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:35,340 and lo and behold, on the 21st of October, 638 00:34:35,410 --> 00:34:39,120 it shows a 911 call 639 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:43,490 at 3:59 p.m., I believe it is. 640 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,670 So the call from John Bryant's phone 641 00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:49,840 made it to the cell tower, but the cell tower 642 00:34:49,910 --> 00:34:53,180 was unable to forward it on to the 911 system 643 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:57,690 because of lack of, uh, signal. 644 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,060 Very frustrating, and very sad 645 00:35:00,130 --> 00:35:02,970 that there was a possibility we could have helped 646 00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:06,270 or stopped this incident. 647 00:35:09,610 --> 00:35:11,320 We knew from investigations 648 00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:14,590 that cell carriers can actually triangulate 649 00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:18,560 if there is at least three towers involved. 650 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:20,100 They could tell you almost exactly 651 00:35:20,170 --> 00:35:22,370 where the phone call was made. 652 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,450 That area is approximately 15 to a 20-minute drive 653 00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:29,150 from the site of where Irene's body was found, 654 00:35:29,220 --> 00:35:31,920 and where the car was found. 655 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:35,400 I believed that that call was probably 656 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:37,870 made by John Bryant, 657 00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:41,880 who was in the vehicle with the suspect. 658 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:45,580 He may have gotten caught trying to make that call. 659 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:49,790 My working theory was that John was abducted, 660 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:51,300 Irene was killed, 661 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,630 probably because the perpetrator 662 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:55,870 did not want to keep two people with him. 663 00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:01,956 I remember having a feeling 664 00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:04,560 that it was somehow bigger than anything 665 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,390 we had seen at that point. 666 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:09,020 And so we know that we're already 667 00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:13,070 two weeks behind locating what happened and who did it. 668 00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:26,930 We want to talk to every single person 669 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000 that was in the National Forest 670 00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:31,740 on the Pisgah Ranger District in Transylvania County 671 00:36:31,810 --> 00:36:35,380 on October 21. 672 00:36:35,450 --> 00:36:39,090 We were hopeful that someone in the area 673 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560 may have seen something and can provide us 674 00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:42,830 with any information. 675 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:47,040 Someone acting funny, acting strange. 676 00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:49,140 We did not have the social media 677 00:36:49,210 --> 00:36:51,250 that we have nowadays back then. 678 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,320 So we had local media, newspapers, 679 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:57,260 radio stations, television. 680 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,240 We had hundreds and hundreds of leads called in. 681 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:06,550 And they ranged from, I saw a suspicious person, 682 00:37:06,610 --> 00:37:09,520 or I saw this campsite that had been abandoned 683 00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:11,090 that just didn't really look right. 684 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,030 And you never know when that one lead is the one. 685 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:19,770 That's where we started getting reports 686 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,610 of the white van and a older man 687 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,350 with a dog from numerous individuals. 688 00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:29,260 We interviewed two females 689 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,570 that was at the Pink Beds Picnic Area 690 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:37,680 just near the crime scene on the 21st of October. 691 00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:40,920 They explained having an encounter with an older man 692 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:44,490 driving a white van with a dog that approached them, 693 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,430 and they believe tried to befriend them, 694 00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:48,200 because they had two dogs. 695 00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:51,400 And he kind of wanted their dogs to play together. 696 00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:57,820 They described that something inside them 697 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,050 set off alarms with this person. 698 00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:04,530 The hair on the back of her neck kind of stood up 699 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,870 like, something's not right here. 700 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:09,710 We need to get away from this guy. 701 00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:16,290 We had another witness come forward 702 00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:20,930 that said they had observed this older male in a white van 703 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,400 with a dog say that he had an extendable baton 704 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:29,850 and that he knew how to use that baton to protect himself. 705 00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:33,120 We know that Irene Bryant was killed 706 00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:34,760 as a result of blunt trauma 707 00:38:34,820 --> 00:38:37,230 with something with a cylindrical shape, 708 00:38:37,290 --> 00:38:39,670 according to the medical examiner. 709 00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:42,770 So now we've got a possible murder weapon 710 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,880 associated with older model white van 711 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:48,280 in the area of the crime scene. 712 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:51,960 Old man with a dog. 713 00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:53,930 This started to paint a picture to me. 714 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:58,340 I'm dealing with somebody that is here constantly. 715 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,410 He's making the effort to make some kind of contact 716 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,580 with a potential victim or victims. 717 00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:07,350 He's confident. 718 00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:10,330 He still has that determination. 719 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:13,200 "I'm going to commit a crime." 720 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:16,040 But unfortunately, for whatever reason, 721 00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:18,640 the Bryants turned into a victim. 722 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,980 We're hopeful that we'll be able to locate this person, 723 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,520 uh, and interview him concerning his contact, 724 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:41,760 uh, with Ms. Emerson there at the trailhead. 725 00:39:41,820 --> 00:39:44,160 The suspect in North Carolina 726 00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:47,400 was an exact match for the person that we believed 727 00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:50,340 abducted Meredith Emerson. 728 00:39:50,410 --> 00:39:53,480 For somebody to take somebody from the trail 729 00:39:53,550 --> 00:39:55,850 down the side of a mountain to a van... 730 00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:02,060 With nobody seeing anything, with nobody hearing anything, 731 00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:05,240 is just absolutely unheard of to law enforcement. 732 00:40:11,350 --> 00:40:15,260 Meredith's phone was shut off, so we started initially, 733 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,700 looking for electronic trails. 734 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:23,740 The sheriff's office had contacted Meredith's bank 735 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:27,150 and asked, had there been any banking activity. 736 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:29,190 We asked the bank to let us know 737 00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:32,560 in the event there was any activity with the ATM card 738 00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:34,360 or anything like that. 739 00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:37,840 The bank reported no activity on her debit card 740 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,410 or her bank accounts at all. 741 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:43,310 We knew that there was one killing in North Carolina, 742 00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:46,190 but we didn't know where John Bryant was. 743 00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:47,290 That was disturbing. 744 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:53,670 If we had a chance of recovering Meredith Emerson 745 00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:55,300 and saving her life, 746 00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:57,940 we were going to do everything possible to do that. 747 00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:01,980 - If you can't find out what happened 748 00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:06,660 within a couple of days, it's going to go cold quickly. 749 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,990 Looking at the obituary 750 00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:28,240 for Irene Woods Bryant that is dated November the 25th, 2007. 751 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:30,640 And heartbreaking to me, 752 00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:33,110 is that this one paragraph here, 753 00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:35,350 that Irene is survived by her husband, 754 00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:37,420 John Davis Bryant. 755 00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:45,640 The Bryants disappeared on the 21st of October, 756 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:48,240 and this is the 25th of November, 757 00:41:48,310 --> 00:41:51,150 so we're talking four weeks plus. 758 00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:54,720 For the family to go through this service 759 00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:57,360 and know that their mother is deceased, 760 00:41:57,430 --> 00:42:00,700 yet their father is missing, 761 00:42:00,770 --> 00:42:02,300 but they don't know where he's at. 762 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,180 I think a lot of people thought after Irene's body 763 00:42:08,250 --> 00:42:11,890 was found that maybe there was hope for Jack 764 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,760 and that he had survived or escaped 765 00:42:14,830 --> 00:42:18,270 or overtaken his assailant. 766 00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:20,270 But as every day went by, 767 00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:23,050 uh, there was just less and less hope. 768 00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:29,830 I believe that it is absolutely impossible 769 00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:33,670 to commit a crime without leaving evidence. 770 00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:35,770 It's your job as an investigator 771 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,250 to find that evidence and link it to a suspect. 772 00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:43,090 A lot of crimes that I investigated, 773 00:42:43,150 --> 00:42:45,460 especially people crimes, are associated with 774 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,800 a sexual drive or money-driven. 775 00:42:49,870 --> 00:42:53,740 I didn't think that John was a sex-driven incident, 776 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:55,480 so we figured it was money. 777 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:59,250 That's why the bank ATM cards and bank information 778 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,020 is critical to find out, 779 00:43:01,090 --> 00:43:03,660 did somebody take money from the victim? 780 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,240 - It was determined that John Bryant's credit card 781 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,750 was used at an ATM in Ducktown, Tennessee, 782 00:43:13,810 --> 00:43:17,220 over a two-hour drive from where 783 00:43:17,290 --> 00:43:19,890 John and Irene Bryant's vehicle was located 784 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,170 in Pisgah National Forest. 785 00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:27,010 - $300 was taken from their account, which at that time, 786 00:43:27,070 --> 00:43:29,680 I believe was the limit that you could get on an ATM 787 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:32,380 in one transaction. 788 00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:35,320 The murder occurs on the 21st 789 00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:38,730 at about 2:00. 790 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,300 911 call's made right at 3:59. 791 00:43:43,740 --> 00:43:46,350 The ATM is used the following day 792 00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:49,750 at about 7:00 p.m. on the 22nd. 793 00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:52,120 It's got to be John, or it's got to be somebody 794 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:56,360 using John's card with John's consent, 795 00:43:56,430 --> 00:43:59,340 or against his will. 796 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,480 When we got the video from the ATM, 797 00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:04,820 we clearly saw a person who had spent some time 798 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,450 trying to disguise themselves 799 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,860 so that they could not be identified as they were using 800 00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:12,200 that ATM card. 801 00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:16,210 As you can see, fairly grainy, not very much detail. 802 00:44:16,270 --> 00:44:18,740 He's clearly aware there's cameras. 803 00:44:18,810 --> 00:44:21,820 He's using camouflage of covering his face. 804 00:44:24,090 --> 00:44:27,630 Also of interest in this, you can see this yellow jacket. 805 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:31,070 There's duct tape across the front here. 806 00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:34,610 I have no clue what that's for or why, 807 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,550 but it's just kind of unusual. 808 00:44:37,610 --> 00:44:39,380 Whether it was Mr. Bryant or whether 809 00:44:39,450 --> 00:44:43,230 it was some other suspect, at that moment, we... 810 00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:45,760 we couldn't tell. 811 00:44:47,540 --> 00:44:50,270 We were interested in a height and least a weight, 812 00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:52,950 at least to eliminate him from being a possibility 813 00:44:53,010 --> 00:44:55,150 of John Bryant doing it. 814 00:44:55,220 --> 00:44:58,360 We took measurements of the known points that 815 00:44:58,420 --> 00:45:01,390 could be seen in photographs, such as the post for the porch 816 00:45:01,460 --> 00:45:03,430 that covered the ATM. 817 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,910 5' 10", slender build, not a heavyset person, 818 00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:12,120 which did not match John Bryant's descriptive. 819 00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:14,350 After this perpetrator got the money, 820 00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:18,060 which direction did they go, which unfortunately, 821 00:45:18,130 --> 00:45:20,570 this surveillance system was not aimed in a way 822 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:22,970 that we were able to tell the direction of travel 823 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,010 after he gained access 824 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,550 to John and Irene Bryant's bank account. 825 00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:31,820 Whoever our suspect was, 826 00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:34,090 they picked remote locations 827 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,030 both in the forest and also the ATM usage 828 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,370 in Ducktown, Tennessee. 829 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,080 It's no longer just Transylvania County. 830 00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:45,920 It's Western North Carolina, 831 00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:48,490 and then Tennessee. 832 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,190 Everybody's job just became more complicated 833 00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:54,570 by adding all of this volume of land and roads 834 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,840 and businesses and homes and forest. 835 00:45:58,910 --> 00:46:01,520 Where could John be? 836 00:46:01,580 --> 00:46:03,220 If you have an individual 837 00:46:03,290 --> 00:46:06,530 who doesn't mind giving up a few creature comforts, 838 00:46:06,590 --> 00:46:08,100 it's incredibly difficult 839 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,330 to try to track those folks down. 840 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,870 So I'm two, three, four weeks into this. 841 00:46:13,940 --> 00:46:16,080 It's almost just like throwing darts. 842 00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:18,280 Things were slowing down. 843 00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:20,990 We wasn't getting anywhere that I could tell 844 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:23,760 with the investigation. 845 00:46:23,830 --> 00:46:26,700 The road was leading nowhere. 846 00:46:26,770 --> 00:46:28,676 There was an incredible amount of pressure 847 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:30,410 from our community asking me 848 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:32,080 if it was safe for our residents 849 00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:34,980 to take their family into the forest. 850 00:46:35,050 --> 00:46:36,566 We need to catch the person responsible 851 00:46:36,590 --> 00:46:38,220 and bring him to justice. 852 00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:48,680 One of our detectives came to me and said, 853 00:46:48,740 --> 00:46:51,620 hey, Sheriff, you might want to take a look at this. 854 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,390 It was a news article that had a photograph of an individual 855 00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:59,200 disguised attempting to use an ATM card 856 00:46:59,260 --> 00:47:02,770 belonging to a young lady in Florida. 857 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,440 And I remember seeing that article 858 00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:07,550 and seeing that photograph and having chills 859 00:47:07,610 --> 00:47:10,350 run down my back, thinking, 860 00:47:10,420 --> 00:47:15,600 my God, that's just like what we saw with the Bryants' card. 861 00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:19,870 I think immediately we all thought, 862 00:47:19,940 --> 00:47:22,540 there's got to be a connection somehow. 863 00:47:22,610 --> 00:47:25,750 We still had Mr. Bryant that was missing. 864 00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:29,060 We had female victims, Forest Service land, 865 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,330 a disguise. 866 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,200 As we were searching for Meredith, 867 00:47:34,270 --> 00:47:36,270 we were contacted by the Florida authorities, 868 00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:39,210 who were investigating the disappearance of a female 869 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,620 in the Apalachicola National Forest near Tallahassee. 870 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,360 Same circumstances. Same MO. 871 00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:48,660 This is a person that knew 872 00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:52,470 how to target and victimize 873 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:55,210 people visiting the National Forest. 874 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,220 I think that was the first time 875 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,220 that that initial thought I had, 876 00:48:00,290 --> 00:48:03,020 that this is somehow bigger than... than here, 877 00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:06,530 I think that was the first time that we had something to say, 878 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,670 yes, it is. 64180

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