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Previously on The Real Housewives of
Salt Lake City. I want my money back for

this trip!

How's Robert doing?

Robert's in here. Some days he's good,
some days he's not.

I'm still beating myself up because I'm
not completely off and perfect.

Oh, you have to take life day by day.

Bronwyn had been doing all this research
on your businesses and your lawsuits.

Five lawsuits against Lisa Barlow. Lisa
and John. Yeah.

It's everywhere.

Oh, my gosh. Take a look.

Dismiss, dismiss, dismiss.

Dismiss because you paid them back or
dismiss because they were fake? No,

dismiss because it's none of your
business.

This doesn't prove anything, Lisa. How
are you unwinding your business?

I'm fighting for Wild Rose Beauty. And
as a woman in business, you just don't

care. I'm not being accused of owing
people money because I'm paid.

No, you always hurl insults.

If Lisa wants to clear up these
allegations, then she should be

questions and answering them instead of
just jumping down our throats. She's

acting like an irrational toddler.

But I'm not going to stoop to her level.
I'm removing myself until she tuckers

herself out.

You said the nastiest thing about me.

And she compared you to Jen Shaw. She
did not. No, she really did.

But you only own one and a half of
lunatics. Who told you I own one and a

That's not true. The rest are
franchises. They're franchises. Let me

count. Let me help you count my cash.

I have three salons that I own, and the
rest are franchises. It's a model I'm

proud of. Be honest about what you own.
You're always like, I own ten salons.

You own one and a half.

Hello, everyone. My name's Angie Kay. I
own seven salons, and my franchise.

Three of them.

There's no one and a half.

You lied and you throw shit out there to
insult me. I finally figured Lisa's

tactic out. She lies to deflect and make
someone else the target. And everyone's

tired of it. I didn't lie. I didn't do
it to insult you. You took it as an

insult.

You have no idea what I own. You don't
know the facts about my business. You do

French fries. I do franchise. You should
stick to it. French fries?

Everybody loves it. She said, you do
French fries. I do franchise.

That was good.

Just like you, I'm super proud of what I
created. Good for you. And I'm super

proud of all the things I created.
Because it's not just this. Well, so let

ask you this.

I invested in your son's line, put on
myself to support Jack and you and your

family. You're doing nothing to help
market it, but you're out trying to

yourself to get a partnership with their
stuff.

Someone that I've been partners with for
26 years. I need to peddle it. They

love my shiny, pretty hair.

Why are you promoting another product
and leaving Fresh Wolf product on my

without following up? Without marketing?
Promote your own Suns Fresh Wolf

product. It's a sea line. It didn't
really belong on my shelf.

It's actually a luxury men's grooming
line. Yes, it is. It belongs in Walmart.

You are a very jealous human being. No,
bitch, you are.

You question every single...

This is ridiculous at this point.

Like now you're talking about my kids
brand and whether it's an A -list or C

-list and the fact that you're going
this low yet again, like we're at a

of no return.

No one wants to hear the business being
called a C -level business.

Can we just accept that that was not a
nice thing to say?

I would like a word.

I felt like you were absolutely, totally
unfairly attacked when we went camping.

You weren't there to defend yourself.

And I understand your desire to clear
your name, but for you to go low and

count her franchises, count her money,
and then Angie, you just flipped it

back and you're telling her the business
line that she developed with her sons

is a C -line?

And that's like some diss?

It's not a diss.

It is a diss. You're doing it to be a
diss.

That's a diss. And I'm not afraid to say
to you, you don't need to go low. You

don't need to go lower. I didn't go low
with her. I want to be clear.

I want to be able to talk to you
honestly. This was horrible.

I'm not friends with you because of your
legal filings or because of your

tequila. I'm not friends with you
because of your sponsorship.

But I emphasize because I have a great
time with you, and this has not been a

great time.

I think you could probably say the same.
Everyone at the table could say the

same.

That you are a fearless, strong person,
and when you're on someone's side,

you feel invincible.

But when you're against somebody, you
feel completely vulnerable. And I have

felt vulnerable.

Like, there were times where I feel
vulnerable, too. But you don't show it.

love never showing it. I grew up so
different than everybody.

So it looks differently to you guys.

But I am very vulnerable.

Angie Castaneda, it's you.

I love you.

And I'm very sensitive when it comes to
you.

Vulnerability, I'm being extremely
vulnerable.

Because when you love someone hard, when
they do something to you, it hurts way

harder.

And you know what? I have thought we
were in a good place, and then this

conversation happens at camp.

And it's really, really heartbreaking. I
apologize. I accept your apology.

Thank you. You're welcome. And I have
all those things about you. And even

I want to wring your little neck, I do
love you, too. And that's why I do get

emotional. That's why I fight back as
hard as I do.

And you, Heather, I am your biggest
champion.

And, like, I really love you, Heather.

You are still extremely honest with me,
extremely hard on me when you need to be

hard on me.

I feel like you're only as good as the
people you're around, and if you guys

aren't thriving like it, you know, it's
not good. I want everyone to thrive.

And it's from my heart. I think you guys
know I don't say things I don't mean.

Bronwyn and I have work to do, but even
when I am irritated with Bronwyn and can

say I don't like you,

There's things I see in you, I
acknowledge in you, I understand about

if you don't think I see it.

I want to say it clearly in front of
everybody.

I did not take any pride in hearing
about this stuff.

I just wanted you to stop talking about
me.

I know that I hurt you.

I know you hurt me, and when you're
ready to say that, I think that's when

move forward.

Can we raise a glass to friends that
love hard and

hurt hard?

I love each and every single one of you.
Even when I'm mad at you, I still love

you. We love you. Cheers,

everybody. Stay strong.

here's what i'm thinking the front part
of this side i think should be like this

super tiny chic little jewelry store
that people walk into and they go

the back into this speakeasy caviar
lounge in theory we could go up a level

back what's up here it's like an attic
here get on my shoulders no no no no no

oh my gosh

No. It's easy. Watch her head. Watch her
head.

Wait, is it this one? Oh, it's that one.
I think you have to look and watch her

head. There are lights.

Honey. This is a bad idea.

Get me off.

I'm parched.

I over -drank yesterday.

What was me drinking? I took your
tequila, and then I took Angie's tequila

drink. I don't drink tequila. I just
take medicine.

You didn't take the alcohol? It's a
little bit of a hospital taste.

You smell like hospital.

So it's not only a smell, it's also a
taste?

All smells have a taste.

That's very true.

It's like when you pass gas, you can
still say, oh, my mouth was open.

And then you...

Okay, never mind.

All right, so excited to do this.

But it has been a minute, so... Do you
remember how to do it?

Trying to figure out how to, like,
extend this thing.

Well, usually you just give it a good
rub and it goes right up. A little rub.

Okay, so this... I'm excited to get back
into it. It's been a while, babe. I

haven't climbed a pole in a long time.

I mean, you have to be excited.

You have my complete support.

Hold that down.

Put it down.

I'm going to just like that.

Yeah, just like that. Perfect.

I miss the days when people would be
like, Whitney Rose has a pole in her

And everyone.

thought it was the juiciest tea and moms
would gossip about it in carpool.

I remember.

It was like the word around town and I
didn't care.

It made me want to do it even bigger and
more and louder.

I stuffed that away.

Then I became a CEO and the failure of
this business has really taken a toll on

me. I finally see it as an abrupt sign
from the universe and God of like... Get

back on your course. Yeah. Like, you
know, those flowers that close in and

up. It's like I like how to close off.
And now that I'm coming out the other

side, like it's like my.

Your flower is opening up.

I love it.

How's it going?

This is cute in here. Oh my gosh, we
were almost in the same jeans. I'm not

joking. When did you guys start this?

We launched it last June.

Yeah, we had great parties in here
during Sundance. Sure, okay. And like

people on stage, which we love.

That's your favorite.

So what's going on?

You know, I...

Felt like there were so many voices
yesterday. It was hard to hear anything.

Yeah. So I thought it'd be good if we
chatted and kind of like figured things

out. Okay.

I have to talk to Bronwyn alone because
there are things that are private and

personal with her feelings and mine.

And if I don't talk to her one -on -one,
I don't think we're going to have

resolution. And I think we owe it to
each other to figure this out.

Damaging things were said.

And, you know, I'm sorry about those.

And I think it really stemmed from you
feeling hurt about our friendship and me

feeling hurt about our friendship. And I
don't want to sit in that space

anymore. What's going on between you and
I has been, we can be honest, it's been

on purpose. It's been hurtful. I think
what happened was I said things that I

didn't realize.

We're like a big deal for you guys,
which I take accountability for.

You said that you had spoken to his
mother. I did. And she told you that I

a miscarriage. And you have been on the
show long enough to know what saying

that would do.

I'm sorry that that hurt you guys. I'm
sorry that that happened.

What happened? And

I think it was unclear between you and I
for a long time. So I want to be

really. overly clear with you that the
beginning of what happened had i had

nothing but like appreciation and
gratitude when it came out from you and

thanked me in text you said

i can't imagine it being anyone else but
you know i would have only shared that

with you i'm having a hard time
reconciling this wonderful family that

with the family that has not made time
in 18 years to ever get to know my

My heart breaks for all of you.

I never felt any way other than
appreciative you put your time and

your friendship with them in like a
weird place by going to talk to them for

I always felt great about that. It's
over.

I've handled it with the most important
person, which is Gwen. And we're in a

good place about it. So I think it's
just a race to the bottom where we are

right now.

And it's just not who I want to be. I
don't.

I feel like I need to defend myself for
my life.

If there's a mistake I've made, then I
need to be accountable for that. I need

to be remorseful for that. I'm
accountable for doing the same thing.

feel like I'm defensive.

Like, John is like my everything.

A biggest trigger for me is when
somebody brings his name up. Like,

you're like in his business and like in
his bank account, in his day to day,

it's hard for me to hear anything, you
know, nasty about him. And I think at

Amy's house.

That kind of set me off to like another
level.

Me saying maybe John is stressed isn't
the same as you saying I suck dick for

clothes. That's what I'm saying about a
race to the bottom. A low comment is

never okay. I don't want a race to the
bottom. I don't want to make low

comments. When I make a joke to somebody
I think is a friend and four years

later you say you suck dick for clothes,
that's not repeating it the same way I

said it. That's twisting it to make it
dark and say I don't respect my husband

and I'm a whore. It is different.

I don't think you're a whore. I've never
said that. I would never call you a

whore. You're not a whore. Okay, so
here's what I don't feel that way.

what I want to do. I don't want to go
back and parcel out every single thing.

You've been really hurt by the things
that were directed at you because they

were directed at you. And I've been
really hurt by the things that were

at me. So I'm very sorry.

There were times that I said things
accidentally that hurt you.

And I'm going to admit there were times
that I said things to be hurtful.

And I'm sorry for both. Thank you. I
will not be doing it going forward.

And that's all I can offer you. Okay,
thank you very much. I hear everything

said. Sorry for the things I've said to
hurt you.

I'd like to be neutral with you. I'd
like to make it easy for everybody else

be friends with the two of us.

But I don't want any more being said
about Todd.

Todd's off limits and so is John.

Full stop.

And kids.

I've never said anything about the kids.
I've never said anything about the

boys. I haven't. I don't know what's
going on with Jack. I hope he's on his

home soon and it's good. Jack comes home
in like less than two months. Oh, so

soon. His mission flew by.

Gwen is still at home. She graduated and
she has not left.

Oh my gosh, so how was that?

My mom's also living with me right now.
Wow, you have a house full.

She was really upset the other day.

Gwen and I had like a disagreement and
she was like, I am sick to my stomach.

Do you think it triggered her?

That's what she said to me. She was
like, I think we should be grandparents

before we're parents. She was like, I am
so much softer and more open -minded

with Gwen.

And it was really an important moment
for me with my mom for her to

she'd been really hard on me.

And I've noticed as I get older that
there are things about myself that I

really rigidly. I like to control how
people feel about me. And I like to

for myself. I don't like anybody else to
speak for me. And I want to correct

words. And I'm really trying to let go
of that. I know I'm rigid. And I make it

very difficult for people to feel like I
accept them. And I'm trying not to be.

Mostly because I know it doesn't serve
me. And because I don't want to be.

Because I don't want to be like that,
like my mom was.

Is that awful to say?

I'm just glad we can have the
conversation and like, no voices were

No voices were raised? There was no
yelling. That might be more impressive

you than me. Probably more for me. I'm
more cutting and you're more loud.

I hugged you yesterday. You want another
one to feel this? Yeah, another one.

Look at this. Cars are going to stop.

Right. Gee.

Are you nervous?

Don't be nervous.

I'm rolling out.

Here we are.

Wrigley Royal Purple.

We're back.

Yes, ma 'am.

I'm going to walk into a new place.

Oh, my gosh.

Mama looking like you.

That's inspiring.

Yeah. Ooh, Joy looks nice in here.

Oh, my gosh, they got all the chairs
done.

Oh, yes, ma 'am. I love it.

Wait, I feel like the blinds, the top
should be the same color. Yes, ma 'am.

the ventures get done?

Some of them did.

Yeah, well, you can see the ones that
didn't. Those look like nails or studs.

Oh, it sure is.

See, that can't be.

That'd stab somebody.

Well, you don't miss nothing. That's
dangerous.

I'm excited to reopen my church, but why
is there a nail sticking out? You did

all this renovation and forgot that?

It's been a long time.

I know. I'm trying to think how long
it's been.

It's been two years.

Big Joe is my cousin, and he is a
general contractor.

He took one year to give us wood floors
upstairs.

I mean, he's family, and he milks it.

He definitely milks it.

It will be cool to come back.

When the church opens back? Mm -hmm. Oh,
yeah. And Robert is excited.

Oh, that's good.

You remember his first time walking was
right across there?

He did walk, and all the church went,
oh!

How's he doing, Mary?

He's good. I mean, we're probably 100
times closer now.

Really, Mary? Yeah, which is even more
hurtful, because now I know when he's

falling off, especially now that I'm
fully aware of what's going on. I know.

Yeah. Yeah.

Are you crying?

No, I'm just having a moment.

That boy's tough, and his mind is smart.

He is smart.

He's smart. I know. He's got a good
heart. He does.

I'm excited for us to come back to
church.

Church is always good to help.
Absolutely. Bringing to church and have

prayer, that'll help anyone. Yes, ma
'am.

Because that's what happened to me. Even
when I was younger, I remember Mama

called me, and she was like, Mary, I
think it's time for you to come back and

saved and get in church. And I was like,
okay.

And because of her, I am everything I
am. And we're here today still because

you, holding things together. Really?

Thank you, Joe. You batted a storm?

Yeah.

For some reason, my mom thought she was
supposed to take everything over.

Yeah.

How?

I don't know.

You know, you think marry the grand...
That was odd to both of us. Like, marry

me?

He obeyed what Mama wanted. He wasn't
trying to do anything extra. My

grandmother told her.

So we were all clear of what my
grandmother wanted.

But once my grandmother passed, my mom
just started trying to take over

everything. And things got bad.

My mom...

She wanted her way, and she couldn't get
her way.

She wanted that power.

She came in with a crew.

Regular church was going on. They had
like a dark cloud. They had a plan.

She got up like she was going to direct
a choir and said that she was pretty

much leaving.

But the police was called, and they
asked him who he want out.

Someone was escorted out. Somebody that
thought they wasn't going nowhere was

escorted out.

And the fact that it's full circle now
and she's gone,

Yeah. I don't know how I feel about
that. It's like a roller coaster.

It hurts. Yeah.

But it's also a chapter that's closed.

Wow.

I feel like it was a storm or a battle
that I had been in for all those years.

And it was. Because she put articles in
the paper about me. She put lies out

there about us. I mean, it was always
something.

Hurtful. Hurtful stuff.

When my mom walked out of my life, I
felt that absence.

But my mom didn't want to speak to me.
And so I gave her what she wanted.

And when she left the earth a few months
ago, it almost felt like it was

actually official.

Because it became a whole bigger, real,
hurtful reality.

Sorry, I have to use this.

No, you're good, man.

It's a Kleenex, even though it's... It's
a... I think it's a Kleenex.

Oh, my God, it's a movie.

It's a movie, but not a movie.

Oh, goodness.

Oh,

Jesus.

Can I have you grab a little champagne?

Just getting my clients tipsy so they'll
let me do perms on them.

Hi, guys. Is Angie here?

This is so weird to come down. Where's
your station?

I don't even want to touch your hair.
Oh, my gosh. You're getting a perm

Nothing permanent. You said nothing
permanent. It won't be permanent, but

just practicing.

My cosmetology license lapsed a while
ago.

I have not done a perm in like 30 years.

So I have to retake tests on mannequin
heads.

And do you know the last perm I did was
like on a little old lady in beauty

school. I started out as a hairdresser
and it's really important to me that

is my legacy.

I do want you to be able to breathe.

And you never know when you're going to
have to step behind the chair again.

Look how cute you look. You look like
someone's grandmother.

Thank you for that.

So you'll never believe what happened.

What? I'm sitting in here with Sean the
other day.

And this really cute little gal walks
in.

Hi. Hi. I thought she had a hair
appointment. And she said, hi, I'm

assistant. Oh, she wanted me to pick up
the Fresh Wolf products today.

Like her product that's on the shelf?

Well, it was on the shelf, but it was no
longer on the shelf.

And at first I was like, is this a joke?
Is she trying to be funny?

But she wasn't trying to be funny. Lisa
sent her in here. She was dead serious.

I had to go down in the storage room.

I find the product. It's just dusty,
been sitting there.

I pack it up.

This is heavy.

And then she said, Lisa Venmo'd you some
money for the product.

I don't want her money, but...

She apparently had already Venmo'd me.
I'm standing up there at the desk, and I

have a text from Lisa that says, $600
Venmo sent.

I can send my cleaners to help you, too.

Sorry your salon is so dusty.

Sorry your salon is so... My salon's not
dusty.

What did you respond with?

So I just said... You should probably
have sent the $600 to other people that

are claiming that you owe them money. I
didn't say you owed me any money.

And my flan is not dusty.

Your products are, though, because
they've been sitting here for two years.

So there's that.

And then she throws her grenade back.

Well, at least I don't have to borrow
money to take vacations and pay it back

after using a card I should have never
used to begin with.

What could that possibly be about?

I have no f***ing idea. I have my own
credit card in my own name. So at that

point, I just stopped responding.

It's like, I'm not going to...

engaged with her craziness.

I thought we left on a great note. I
thought you guys left great. Like, it

love and tears and hugging.

I'm sick of her throwing out grenades
because she feels like, well, I'm going

deflect. And you talked about my kids. I
didn't talk about your kids.

You talked about her kids' product line.
You talked about Fresh Wolf.

And it would have never come up had she
not said, you're just jealous. You're

jealous of me. You're jealous of my
shiny hair. I'm like, everybody has nice

hair in this room.

Your hair is no better than anyone
else's.

Dye bowling ball black. Like, it's
great, but it's not shiny. When you go

dark, you don't have shine.

That's what makes it hard to support you
is because, like, amidst all the good

and all the hurt, you, like, come in
with some really horrible slams. But,

Heather, saying that I'm using someone's
credit card to go on vacation.

She's taking everything that is being
slung at her and just slinging it back

me. And then now I've got to respond
with something low or walk away.

No, do you?

I'm pissed.

But, like...

You're definitely going to see her
again, and I don't think you should come

hot. I want to be in a good place with
her, but I don't know how I'm going to

react when I see her.

Look how curly your hair got with no
solution.

You know, I'm just in my pretty girl
era, really.

That snapped me.

Oh, oh, sorry. Where do I fill out a
comment card? It's been 30 years.

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Hello. I love this place. You have no
questions whatsoever.

Hey, thank you. Thank you. You know this
place? Yeah, I've actually never been

in the store, but they've done my entire
house plants. You're kidding me.

They're really good prices, too. I need
some plants that I can't kill.

Well. Like, once the kid endure cold, my
bedroom, I keep them super cold. You

know what? I have one of these from
here, and I have halfway killed it, but

still is pretty good.

Thanks for meeting me.

I just wanted to... Yeah, thanks for
inviting me.

I've been wanting to talk to you. Yeah,
yeah, yeah.

I just feel like we got off on a wrong
start.

After the RV trip, Whitney's and my
relationship has been pretty tense.

But when Lisa went after Whitney's
business at her luncheon, I realized

had done the exact same thing.

Your business was getting dropped.

I feel badly about it. I went low

and I apologize for that. Thank you.

I really appreciate that. And I really
feel bad for what I said about you and

Jared. That's not me.

I don't really go to that level. I know.
I have to say, I was a little shocked.

I'm sorry.

I appreciate that.

Wow.

Oh, I love this smell.

Looking at all their green walls. I want
them to come build me a green wall.

I would love that.

I've never seen your house.

No, I've never seen your house either.

There's a lot of stuff I want to do to
it still.

Jared's been helping me.

Are you and Jared? even together i
thought you broke off the engagement we

but we're together what does that mean
that means that we're working toward

getting engaged again britney he's
really good to me like we really are

to take things slow in the name of our
kids do you know what olivia wants from

you has she expressed that i think that
she just wants to see me being

consistent

with not choosing a man over her but
it's super hard because jared and i are

a really good is that her hard like
boundary like she wants you to stop

for a minute i'm not sure maybe you
should ask her because think about the

scheme of life is it really that hard to
stop for a short period of time to

prove to her that she's worth it wow
that would be a big ask if

that's

what she would need you know no offense
she should come first even as an adult

you know I've had my own ups and downs
with my parents especially my mom yeah

were estranged for a very long time you
know I understand that mother -daughter

relationship it's so hard but even when
I like wasn't talking to my mom I never

stopped loving her I never stopped
needing her wanting her especially as

gone through these hard times with my
business failing

I need my mom, so don't give up.

I really want to be there for Olivia. I
want to be that rock for her like my mom

was for me.

But that's kind of impossible because
she doesn't make space for me. Am I just

supposed to sit home?

Just give it 30 days and see what
happens with Olivia.

Think about your ups and downs with
Jared, your dating life.

It's been messy, and you could use a
break.

And if Olivia, if that's what she needs
to see from you, and that's all, it

should be a no -brainer.

Like, put the cactus down.

Like, Brittany. Yes. Literally.

Yeah. It's your daughter.

I know.

You should feel instinctually like I'll
do anything for her.

Yeah. Anything.

Even not dating. Yeah.

Do you feel that? Yeah, I do.

I do.

Because standing here with you
questioning it is making me feel like a

way. Yeah, yeah. It's your daughter.

She's opened up the pathway to move
forward, and she's given you an

Take it.

Because she might not again.

Stop looking for something to do around
my house.

I was trying to get this out of the way.
You don't need to do this. This loss is

ridiculous. You know, I just put it in a
plastic.

We're leaving.

Roll them up. What?

We're going bowling.

You are not going to bowling.

We are.

Yes, we got our league today.

Wait, are you in the league? They're not
in a bowling league. They always say it

to me. Who knows where they go every
Wednesday.

Bye.

They had me going for a couple weeks.
They kept saying, oh, we're in a bowling

league, and I was asking them all these
questions. Where did you hear about it?

Private time. Yeah.

Okay, well, that's got to freak you out.
They don't have enough in the East

Wing. Can you imagine if I had said to
you I'd like my boyfriend to live with

at our house?

Wouldn't happen. Never would have
happened.

Gwen is the same age or very close to
the age that I got pregnant with her at.

So having my mom not only here, but
judging how I try to parent Gwen is

bringing up for me just how much shame I
felt then and how much maybe shame I

still feel.

I'm old generation.

She has this idea of what a perfect
Mormon family looks like, and I'm never

going to fit into that for her.

You know what, Lizzie? It doesn't bother
me.

Yeah, I know it doesn't bother you.
That's why it doesn't bother her.

She's following your example. Okie doke.
Let's be really careful.

Whatever example you're doing, she's
copying.

Okay, let's not say whatever example.
Like, I'm out in the streets, Muzzy.

I just set out to be very different with
her. I don't want any sneaking of

stuff. Just openly tell me you're doing
it. And I like that, but it's parenting

that I've never seen work.

Okay, but did the way you parented me
work?

Because you didn't know what we have in
sex and newsflash. I had a baby by

myself messy. So it didn't stop me from
doing it BYU was trying to make sure I

wasn't having sex you were trying to
make sure I wasn't having sex and guess

what it was happening No matter what I
never once was thinking about that

because I knew that all along you were
taught you don't smoke You don't drink

and you do not have premarital sex And I
would have put my head on the chopping

block that you would not have done any
of those three

Ever. Mm -hmm.

I know.

I know you're a big fan of the tough
love with me. I know. And I'm not a big

of receiving tough love.

But you see how better that works?

It did not work any better, though.
Yeah, it did. We had really hard days,

Yeah.

I would not be jazzed if Gwen had a baby
at the same time that I did.

I would handle it very different. You
did not let me have a baby shower. You

were not happy about it. You did not let
anybody be excited for me.

I was not to be celebrated. It was not
something to be excited about.

There were so many moments that were so
awkward and so hurtful. My mom and I

were at a baby gap because both my
sisters were pregnant the same time that

was. And my mom said, I'm picking
something out for my granddaughter.

And the salesperson said, oh, so you're
having a little girl.

And I said, oh, she means my sister.

And she says, oh, I thought you were
pregnant too. I'm so sorry. I shouldn't

have assumed.

And I said, I am.

And she said, so is grandma buying
something for your baby also?

And my mom said, no.

There are some things you don't get to
go back and redo.

You couldn't have predicted if I was
going to have another one or not. So in

way you did make sure that I never had a
happy pregnancy because I never got to

do it again. But that's not my fault.

But you are the one who made it
miserable.

You know how miserable I was trying to
hide it?

So many times over the years I've
thought, maybe I don't understand. Maybe

didn't mean this. Maybe she would do it
differently now. But I didn't

misunderstand.

My mom still thinks 20 years ago when I
was pregnant that the person who was

most hurt was her.

And Daddy's position where he was in the
job at the temple. I know, it was

embarrassing for Daddy because he worked
for the church. I realized all those

things, but it was also really about me
and what I wanted to do. And I was

really the last person considered in
that.

I also felt there were periods where,
okay, Gwen just dropped in my daycare,

you know.

I do not know what you're talking about,
like Gwen was just dropped at you.

What are you talking about? I was at
work. What would have happened if I

take her? You would have been somewhere
else.

We didn't want her to go into foster
care.

I would have worked a second job and
paid for something. Let's not imply that

was going to let go and go to foster
care. That's so dark.

No, you never wanted her to be adopted.

It was always, I'm keeping her.

Yeah.

I have a lot of grace for the fact that
you had never been in a situation of

raising a child that was doing something
so different than what you wanted them

to do.

Especially the last one.

You're doing your best.

Okay.

Just because I don't say, oh, you're so
wonderful, you're so amazing, doesn't

mean that I don't think you are.

Just busy being careful that you don't
think you're so wonderful.

But you are too good.

in that car i even have a caviar
refrigerator in the center console okay

to test that out hi welcome how are you
oh lavender cold foam oh my goodness

that sounds so good but i may have to go
with a hybrid matcha perfect i would

like an iced tea please awesome anything
else that is it all right and you're

all set thank you thank you look
meredith and i are no laverne and

we've been trying with each other. Thank
you, Meredith.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, it's a holder for the scroll of
tables.

We can now move forward.

So I just want to make Meredith aware
that Lisa's not the Laverne to her,

surely. She thinks she is.

Oh, my gosh. So how's everything been
going?

Crazy busy. How about you?

I'm going to renovate my store and make
a small jewelry store in the front. Oh,

wow. And then, like, a caviar lounge in
the back. Because the lounge is taking

over. Okay. Oh, that's going to do so
well, Meredith. Good for you.

Anyway, though, so what did you think
about everything the other day? Like,

thank you.

That's beautiful. I know. It's so
pretty. Thank you.

Thank you.

So, I mean, there's a lot that's
happened since I've seen you.

And I don't know if Lisa talked to you,
so you may or may not know.

I'm at the salon, and out of the blue,
this girl comes in.

And she said, hi, I'm Lisa's assistant,
and I'm here to pick up the Fresh Wolves

products.

And then Lisa sends me this mean message
and starts this war with me again. It's

like, wait, what happened?

Like, if you really want to be on the
right foot, you don't go backwards.

Perhaps she needs a little bit of grace
because everything that ties back to

kids, we all get very reactive.

I don't want to hurt you, but in the
past when you and I were not really in a

great place, Lisa was calling me and
encouraging me to dig

up information about family members and
relatives of yours.

She was telling me, oh, Google this
person, and here's their name, and this

how you spell it, and there's things out
there about bankruptcy and shoplifting.

To intimidate, so you stopped coming at
me.

And I didn't, and I wouldn't, because
that's not who I am, but obviously it's

who Lisa is.

Like, Lisa's doing her research on
everyone, true or not, and she just...

Keeping it back here in case you come
for her. She's going to have this bomb.

I just don't understand why she would,
like, tell someone who I'm not getting

along with when I am getting along with
her to go try to, like, dig up dirt that

isn't even true about not even me.

But that just would be hurtful to me.

Lisa is loyal.

And Angie's lied about me for two years.

That's why I find it hard to believe
that it's even true.

But I'll find out.

That's very disturbing.

Like, very disturbing for me. Because I
wouldn't do that to her.

You know, I just wouldn't.

I mean, you know I'm going to have to
talk to her about this.

Yeah, I'm okay with that. Because she
said it word for word.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City. Little girl's day,

celebrating love, laughter.

And wine.

I need to know if you spread rumors
about my family.

I'm going to come over there and pull
your ears further back than they've been

pulled by your facelift.

I'm done with you. Bye, Mary.