All language subtitles for The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City – S5E8

Previously on The Real Housewives of
Salt Lake City.

Welcome. Look at these mobsters.

You look gorgeous.

Should we do a big hug?

Yeah.

Maybe high fives.

They verified that you were the one that
said these things about prison.

I didn't do it to you!

Justin, how do you do this? You have to
deal with the lies and sit through this.

I would never, ever, ever. She is a
liar. Don't call my wife a liar. She's a

liar, Justin.

She's a liar.

Stop,

stop, stop.

Don't say that word to my wife.

Yeah, I'm going to pound her back.

I think Lisa would like an apology. I
feel like she deserves an apology.

Yeah, I'll have to think about that one.

I want to invite everybody and their
husbands to go to Thermal. Obviously,

Brittany is not.

invited and i'm on the fence about
heather so you're planning a trip and

here to like sing for my supper and like
earn an invite and you have come very

hard for me i am not a good friend i am
terrifying this is not like the type of

friendship i want to have

How are you? Thank you.

Hi. How's it going?

Good. How are you? You look so pretty.
I'm like so casual.

I'm so happy to have a spa day. I know.
Me too.

Hi. How are you?

Are you checking in for an appointment?

We are under Meredith.

This is so pretty. This is really
beautiful.

Heather's going to come over and meet us
for coffee.

Oh, amazing.

Have you talked to Bronwyn about this
couple's trip that she planned?

Bronwyn invited me over to her house.

You know, Bronwyn... What?

What? Oh, my God.

I'm on my way to the Stillwater Spa to
meet Meredith. Come up here. I want to

hear everything. This is so weird.

I, like, love getting massages.

We have tea waiting for you guys on the
balcony if you want to get your robes

on. Okay. All right. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.

Oh, it's actually kind of nice, though.

Look at this.

Oh, it's bright.

I'm trying to get my whole family into
the bat mitzvah. You need to.

Like, who would we bring in?

Myra? I mean, yeah. Like, it's my bat
mitzvah. My mother just confirmed today

that she'll come. I'm like, okay. Oh, my
gosh. I love that.

Keys are in it.

Thank you so much.

How's it going?

Good. I love this jacket.

What's happening? Guess what I'm doing.

I don't know. What is it? I'm getting
buttoned. It's fun.

You are personally?

Yes. I never did it.

I know. Isn't that amazing? I'm doing
it.

So I'm super excited.

Well, make sure I'm invited to the bat
mitzvah. I don't want to get left out.

Honey, I wasn't telling you because you
weren't invited.

I mean, that seems to be what would
happen with me and Bronwyn. Wait, what

going on?

Okay, so this morning, Bronwyn invited
me over to her house.

I assumed it was because she wanted to
make up and, like, just move forward.

But, like, I was invited for her to tell
me how I'm a shitty person.

Yeah, but she doesn't even really spend
any time with you. Like, how does she

know what kind of person you are?

She basically told me that she has this
group trip planned and she was going to

wait and see if she was going to include
me or not. What?

She brought up a lot of weird stuff. She
was apologizing to me. I never really

heard her say she was sorry. I was
confused about what she was even

about. And then she was like, now, what
would you like to apologize to me for?

What? She was talking all over the
place, mincing words. And she's like

mad at me for asking if she has a
prenup. Like, can you see the world

living in? I lack self -awareness. Like,
you are manipulating me and you are

spinning this. It was weird. And then
apparently I needed to apologize for it

and make good. Otherwise, I wasn't going
to be included on the friend trip.

We're going around in circles. It was
clear like we weren't getting anywhere.

And then I grabbed my stuff and I left.

This makes me sad. Like, I want you to
come on the trip with us. Well, like,

what's your version of your friendship
with her? Because when I got there, she

told me that she had to FaceTime you and
to make sure that everything was cool

so that you could come on the trip, too.

I got off the call and was very
irritated because I'm like, it's not

said. It's the way she said it. She's
like, is John and Justin going to be

I just want to make sure they're going
to be okay. And I'm like, my husband is

CEO of a company. Like, he's going to be
just fine. I was a little worried you

might not want to come.

Because I did invite Whitney and Justin.

You guys are okay, right? You can be
there with Whitney and Justin?

Oh, that's not... I mean, I'm fine.
That's not an issue?

You're fine. Okay. I'm not too worried
about that. But, like, what was your

perspective on the call? I was
frustrated because, like, I was

while we were on the phone. I'm like,
wait a minute. Are you, like, basically

saying me and John created this problem?

I'm like, I'm not going to defend my
character and my husband's character on

this phone call. And when I got off, I
was upset.

Like... Whitney is lying about me. And
the fact that she's not even like, hey,

that sucks for you. I'm sorry you were
crying. I'm sorry you were upset. I

how do you feel about going, Meredith?

It's really, like, confusing because I
was accused of being behind all those

rumors last year.

You know what? You want me to go there
with her husband?

I can go there.

So Sean went on this podcast and made a
statement about Brooke saying that

I'm basically...

Using him as like a pawn to deflect from
my own wrongdoing.

So the other night at Angie's, I was
speaking with Sean.

I said that really hurt me. It was
hurtful to me in all honesty when you

son and said that I was playing with a
pawn to deflect from something that I

didn't even do. That's how I felt.

And that once was it. I should not have
talked about your son and I am sorry.

I would be hurt by that. And I was just
like blown away.

Why would you bring Brooke into this
mess? He has absolutely nothing to do

it. He wants nothing to do with it.
Like, leave him alone.

So great time for you two to get on a
private plane.

Maybe I'll go commercial.

Quick little jaunt since Palm Springs
sounds like it might be more like a

hell.

you getting into trouble while i'm
packing come on come on come on come on

don't girl should we try calling dad
should we call him and see what he has

say i wonder if he's awake hi

what's going on how's korea um it was
very good i had some very good meetings

yesterday you know i'm in korea i went
to there's a japanese restaurant in the

hotel of course you did of course you
did Are you ready to fly all the way

here so you can fly to Palm Springs with
me on Saturday?

So how's your stuff going with your
friends?

Mary can't make the trip.

Thank you for the invite.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to come.

Okay. I'm going to spend the weekend
with my son.

Okay. And I told you Heather came over,
and it didn't go well.

So I didn't obviously extend an
invitation. She was storming out.

So she's not coming. So I'm really
hoping it goes well, Todd, at this

talked about this before. I really don't
want to have a weekend of drama with

these people.

I don't either.

I'm not going to make this trip about
that, right? It's about you and I.

This really means a lot to me that we're
doing this.

We'll see, I guess, is the wise man
said. Yep, we'll see.

I'm assuming that...

We can pack pretty light, but it's going
to be warm.

Private jet. It can't weigh too much.

I got this little Ferrari outfit.

Very cool. I got that.

Fancy dinner outfit.

I got my new shoes.

Got a little package coming for the
trip.

I didn't see that one hit the AMX.

I can't believe we're going on a
couple's trip. I think it's going to be

Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about your
dynamic with Lisa right now?

You know, right now, our friendship is
not what it was, and I don't know how

we'll get back to that. And it's like
I've let her kind of get away with being

kind of mean to me at times.

A lot.

Yeah. You've let her get away with that
a lot.

I know.

Not good.

Are you packing already?

Yeah, I've got to pick my outfits. I
ordered some stuff.

You think it's going to be fun? Yeah.

What do you think it's going to be like
with you and John?

I feel like John and I are going to be
fine. The only thing that was kind of

lingering was he asked if I would be
willing to give Lisa an apology.

No, she owes you an apology.

Are you ready for this trip?

Looks like you are. All these
sunglasses.

Are you bringing them all? I don't know
what I'm supposed to bring, no. I'm

probably going to bring like...

One, two, probably three pair, maybe
four.

That's it?

So I shouldn't bring these?

John Barlow, I'm going to threaten to
divorce you for the millionth time.

Are you excited about going?

You know, probably not so much. Like,
things aren't great with Angie, and

the way I left things with Whitney after
the mob party, you know, I don't really

want to hang out with her.

Yeah. You know?

Justin still owes me an apology, too.

Well, he essentially said he's going to
think about it. Okay.

So I'm not going to force you. I have a
lot to think about with them too.

Oh, I'm sure you do.

I mean, it's just going to be
interesting. Like, I think we're going

good time. Yeah, we will. I'm glad
Denise could watch Henry.

How was your guys' lunch?

It was good. It got a little emotional.

Oh, really?

Which I hate.

How was Henry?

Around his birthday party, he sent out
like a last minute invite to kids and

they went to another kid's party instead
of his.

I like felt so bad for him. And I was
like, Girl.

Aw.

And then I feel bad for Henry where I'm
like, I just hope I'm being the mom he

needs, you know?

You totally are.

I don't second -guess myself a lot, but,
like, the one thing I dissect is how I

am as a mom.

Having a friend call me a bad mom
magnifies everything, like, a million

more.

Like, I think it's the meanest thing you
can say to me.

Sorry. I don't know why it makes me
emotional.

Thank you.

It's pretty today.

It's too early.

Hello?

Happy anniversary, Google.

Hi!

Good morning!

Todd Justin.

Justin, nice to meet you.

Absolute pleasure.

Do you want to stay away from Lisa and
John?

Yeah, okay.

I don't want to have any... No, no, no,
no, no, no. I don't want any drama

either. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard
Bronwyn Air Flight 323 bound for Palm

Springs, California.

Please make sure all of your luxury
carry -on items are safely stowed,

I doubt some of the baggage you ladies
are carrying will fit in the overhead

compartments. Todd, good morning. There
she is. Good morning. How are you?

Okay, where is everybody sitting?

For the safety of everyone, please make
sure you are not seated next to anyone

you are currently feuding with.

Is this a dry flight or a wet flight?

Are you drinking at 7 in the morning?
What is wrong with you?

Now sit back, relax, and try to enjoy
the flight.

After all, it's a private jet I'm paying
for.

Coming up... I wasn't coming to spend
the weekend here to sit through a bunch

arguments.

Lisa's got to stop, or you guys got to
go.

All right, come with me. We're going to
go in the car over here, yeah?

Oh, wow.

I'll be your driver. Okay, perfect.

We're getting in a car.

Ready to go.

It's dangerous right now to be between
the husbands in this group. So that's

why. At your house it was the other
night.

You know, I want to be. I'm not stepping
towards you. Okay, don't step at me

because I'm Greek and I'll step back.
Okay. And you won't like it.

I've been so out to lunch. Meredith told
me there was an altercation with you

and Justin.

Lisa came over, as Lisa does, and she's
like, how do you deal with your wife?

She's a liar.

And in the past.

You know, we've always had this kind of
understanding from the beginning that we

just... The pact.

Yeah. The brotherhood. Yeah, we just
kind of... Stay out of our wives'

You got it back to balance? I think it's
balanced. It's close to. I don't know

if it's completely balanced. Not for me.
I think... And then it's not balanced.

I have to tell you, it was so awkward
for me when I got on the plane.

And, like, I saw Justin Whitney. I went,
I'm like, your wife's a liar, and

you're lying for her.

I get that Ron went and invited him.

But it's awkward. It doesn't make it
less awkward.

Right.

It was kind of weird on the plane. I was
talking to Lisa and Meredith. We were

talking about Heather and I's
conversation.

What happened with Heather? I had
Heather over and tried to talk things

her, and it just didn't go well.

You guys didn't get anywhere?

No. Heather left upset in the middle of
the conversation. Yeah.

Shocks. I didn't think anything was that
deep, you know? I don't know. I started

out by saying to her, I want to
understand what I've done that's upset

much. And she was like, do you want to
give me an insincere apology?

And I was like, no, I will give you a
sincere apology if I just understand

it is you're upset about. And she
couldn't really tell me what she was

about. When Heather's your friend, she's
really your friend.

They were trying to explain to me what
Heather's point of view was.

Are they agreeing with her? Yeah. I
mean, I'm incredibly hurt by my

with Meredith and Lisa from the plane.
If they spoke to Heather and heard her

side of things, I don't know why they
weren't open to hearing my side of

I just think there's two sides to every
story, and I feel like Heather and

Bronwyn are 180 from each other, and
Bronwyn might be 180 from me, too.

Like, if you agree with Heather that I'm
two -faced and bitchy and Todd's too

stupid to realize I'm a gold digger, why
the f*** are you here?

It's not okay.

Oh, wow.

Beautiful.

Todd, you did a great job.

Hey, okay. We can take a tour and pick
rooms.

Hey, thank you. This house is
incredible, Bronwyn. Beautiful.

Thank you guys for having us.

Bronwyn, oh my God. This is like
amazing.

So pretty.

Oh my gosh.

Wow. It goes on and on.

I know. It's beautiful.

The nicest thing about this house is
it's large with two wings.

And the best part about it is I don't
have to be near Whitney if I don't want

be.

Look at this.

Oh, my gosh. Pool and pond. Are you
kidding me?

And there's stables, too.

I need to go find one with a bathtub. No
joke.

You know, I've been traveling a lot.

for work this past year.

It is so damn important with limited
time I'm with Meredith for Meredith to

happy. No bathtub.

This is a bad dream right now.

Bad dream.

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit, holy
shit. What are you going to do if

no bathtubs? Check out. We know what
makes each other happy and it is the

hanging fruit to know Meredith loves a
bath.

There's no bathtub?

No bathtub.

Anytime we're sleeping somewhere, head
on a swivel looking for the tub.

Oh, my gosh, the whole thing's been
redone. Look how pretty this is. Yeah,

is beautiful.

Uh -oh.

There's no bathtub. Do you and Lisa want
to stay in a room and John and I will

stay in a room?

There's three rooms over here and two
over there. So it looks like maybe when

they went in that door, they took the
two rooms.

So I guess pick a room on this side.

Please.

I mean, there's a bad vibe with Lisa.

I have gone above and beyond making sure
she's comfortable with Whitney coming.

And now I don't even know where she is
on the property. So where do I think

goes from here?

Nowhere good.

It feels like a little odd. Yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Coming up. When it's me and somebody
else, it's my responsibility to work

When it's you and someone else, my ass
is going to rot your dick like it's my

job.

incredibly awkward so divided but we
have to try to salvage this trip because

bronwyn i have never had a friend go
this above and beyond on a trip this

is incredible you know we've been on
some good trips with friends yeah this

next level you guys should meet us in
europe

We're doing, like, all of Italy.

I don't really like the food in Italy,
so I don't want to stay there too long.

You don't like the food? No. I love the
food. No, I think it's too fresh. In

Italy, I don't love the food. It's too
fresh?

Lisa, I love you, but you sound insane
here.

Food being too fresh is not a thing.

Hey,

how are you? Hi, good afternoon.

I'm Rocky.

Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

Bronwyn's excited to see you.

Yeah, for sure. We're excited to see
what you brought anyway.

Here, let me go grab Ron when you can
jump this, grab this table, and I'll be

right back. All right. She'll be right
back. Okay.

I don't know what's bigger, your purse
or the suitcase.

I know, just all of it.

Oh, my gosh, we have volleyball.

Let me see. Oh, my gosh, there's paddle
boards and surfboards. Yeah.

Thank you for driving down. A long day
for you from L .A., huh?

Yeah. Okay.

So these are the pieces I talked to
Norman about that I was thinking.

Happy anniversary to me.

Yes. This is a jeweler I've worked with
before. I actually was just at their

vault a couple weeks ago. I had my puppy
with me, and she got to try on Charlize

Theron's Oscar necklace.

This is an Oscar necklace, and it's 170
carats.

Wow. It's beautiful. It's so insane.

Todd likes to buy jewelry for me. It's a
big expenditure.

So these are all pieces I liked at the
jeweler that I would like Todd to also

like for me.

Let's see if I still got it.

Am I an athlete?

Well, my dad was a soccer player. He was
the MVP on the Greek team.

And so I just assume I inherited his
skills with balls.

Oh, no.

This way.

Apparently,

I assumed wrong.

Did it go in? It went in.

Wait, I can read that. Hold on.

Okay.

Come to mama.

Hold on, watch this.

All right.

Well, I'm trying not to fall in because
my hair and makeup are done.

Does tuds are a 10 -carat each?

They're each 10 -carat, and they're like
a perfect match, right? They are. Well,

pretty and gross.

Right? It is.

Just tap the water.

Tap the water? Like that?

Yep.

It'll push it this way.

Yeah.

They're like headlights.

Yeah.

Yep.

I did it.

I got the ball back.

I'm going to try them both on, and we'll
think about it, and then I'll get back

to you and Norman when we settle on
something.

I'd pick both.

Thank you. Thanks so much. I appreciate
it. You know what I'm actually really

good at?

What? Soccer.

Oh! Ellie!

I'll let you go, okay?

No, thanks.

Do you think we're going out for lunch?
No, I think we're having lunch here

because the table's set.

Hey, babe.

Is Seth exhausted?

Is he coming out? You know, he's been
working so much lately, so he's probably

on a call.

Oh, my God, it's Saturday. He's got to
take a day off. I know. It's a little

of control. I'm just glad he was able to
come out and do this. I'm so glad we

were all able to do this, you know? Good
point.

Look who's here.

I was looking all over for you. Oh,
somebody got drinks. What is that?

It is a martini. It's Kalamata. I don't
even know what Kalamata is. Cheers,

honey. This is awesome, by the way. I
love it. Isn't it beautiful?

It's so awesome to hang out with you
guys.

Meredith, I have some bad news.

I have to leave early to go back to
Ohio.

What do you mean?

I got to leave first thing tomorrow
morning.

No.

I'm so irritated.

Like, it's a couple's trip.

I'd like the other half to my couple.

It's Sunday. Yeah, but it's Sunday. You
can wait till Monday.

Getting from Palm Springs to Columbus
requires like... That's going to be like

all day. Yeah. Well, I got to fly to
Minneapolis.

I don't like this whole thing. I think
this is like, this doesn't add up.

Hold on. I don't like this whole thing.
I think this is like, this doesn't add

up. What doesn't add up? Because I told
you that this was like an overnight trip

and you were like, yeah, great. I'm
coming. I'll be there. And you've been

like the last two weeks entirely.

And you're leaving again next week.

This is starting to feel like Toronto
again.

This is not the first time that Seth and
I have had problems.

And now it's like we're back to this.

pattern that didn't work so well the
first time.

When he started this position in Ohio, I
didn't think he would be gone all that

much, but I don't think he sees it as
big of a problem as I do.

The thing is, we've had these problems
before. We know that we need to address

this before it snowballs, and him
leaving early makes me feel like he

want to fix it.

So, work with me, Seth.

Help me help us.

I mean, you got

Delayed coming in, so I didn't see you
until yesterday afternoon, and you're

leaving tomorrow morning.

I need a minute, if you don't mind.

I hear you.

Meredith has an insanely high
expectation level, and sometimes I can't

all. Like, every day I can't meet them
all.

She got, yeah, I don't know, she seemed
very upset.

That literally was when we started
growing apart because I was gone so

Five days a week you come home and then
you leave.

Oh, yeah. You're here home for a day or
two and then you take coffee. Yeah.

I'm just frustrated because I feel like
it's two days. Like, it's not that big

of a deal. And he literally got home
yesterday afternoon and has been gone so

much. I get it. Look, no one appreciates
somebody working hard more than me. You

know that. Yeah.

But it's taking its toll on me.

I think lesson learned when they're in
bikinis laying in a beautiful spot,

they're at their best.

And when you first arrive, don't drop a
bomb like that.

Well, you know, it was really hard. I
walked out and I was like, where should

go? I looked over there. I wasn't really
feeling any welcome vibes. So here I

am. I see you're just going over there
and sitting down. I went and talked to

them when they were picking rooms and
they said nothing's going on, nothing's

weird. Your rooms are okay? Yeah, I know
they're great. And everything's okay?

You feel okay? You guys are comfortable?

No drama? No,

we avoid drama.

Okay.

And I was like, okay.

And they came and sat over there.

It's so bizarre.

I feel like someone has to break the
ice. Right?

Where's Todd?

He just went to do a phone call. He'll
be back.

I was doing work.

You guys want to flip a coin for car and
hold teams here? Yeah. Or is it you

guys against us?

Did you guys get permission to do this
from your wife? No.

There's kind of like another reason why
it's awkward. It's because Lisa wants an

apology from Justin.

Oh. And Justin and I both agree that we
feel like he did not do anything wrong.

She said apologize to my husband.

Oh, you want an apology for Justin.

Oh, God.

Whitney wants an apology from Lisa, and
Lisa wants an apology from Justin.

Oh. Totally off. I don't know if there's
a fourth person in this equation, so

maybe that's a triangle, not a box.

I'm not good with geometry. I don't
know, but I am going to tell you this.

Lisa was to give someone an apology,
first she would have to admit, God

she was wrong.

Can the apologies that are wanted cancel
each other out and no one needs to

apologize? I know, right?

We need to break the ice. I'm going to
go grab some shots.

And to do the right thing, it's going to
be needed tequila shots.

Okay, so I'll be right back.

Yes!

Aren't you hot? Not at all. You aren't?
No.

And this is like nothing. It's like open
nothing.

Justin's a pro.

Jeez, we're getting smoked.

Do you think I'm pouring too much? Do
you only go halfway?

I mean, vacation's vacation.

You're right. Okay, let's go all the
way, right?

Where's my wife?

That is like the worst question on a
couple's trip. It's like, where's my

Todd, I want to do a little toast for
your anniversary.

Cheers. Hi, everyone. I just got some
Vita tequila for y 'all. Get the party

started. Hi, girls. Hi.

Would you like a little shot of Vita
tequila, ma 'am? Oh, I will take one.

you. Beautiful.

Beautiful. Cheers,

guys. Cheers.

Cheers.

How's it going?

Oh, good. We're breaking the ice over
here.

It was good.

Did you win? Me and Justin won.

You and Justin won? We did. Oh, I like
this. I like the bubbles. It's all the

husbands in the pool, huh?

Set this pod to UBFF.

I can find my phone. This jet is giving
me a great salt massage.

Meredith, are your ears okay?

Well, this is the thing, ladies.

So, I got hearing aids.

Well, I think I'm headed in that same
direction, so tell me about it.

you guys have been saying about me, I
will now be able to hear.

Watch out.

Watch out.

I'm actually very excited about my
hearing aids. They did my test, and they

I do have hearing loss and recommended
the hearing aids, and I think it's the

best thing I ever did.

And they also work as AirPods.

I can listen to my music and tune all
those ladies out.

And they won't even know it.

One thing I always say, you judge a
straight man by their wife, period.

And we crushed it. We all crushed it.
Way above our weight. Way above our

weight. We outkicked our coverage.

I'm going to make a different point. I'm
going to make a different point.

I can say I outkicked their coverage.

You guys, has anyone talked to Heather?

No, I was going to text her from my room
and say hi. I feel kind of sad that

she's not here. I feel bad for her. I
feel really bad.

I know that Bronwyn tried to apologize
and reparent and fight a past spoiler.

I didn't hear that same story from
Heather.

It might be a little more complicated.

Yeah, I think it was a little more
complicated.

I don't think it's that complicated. I
think Bronwyn invited her over to work

out to get her here. I know Bronwyn
wanted him here. When I talked to

heard a totally different interpretation
of, I think that they're

misunderstanding each other.

They're saying the exact same thing
about each other. You know what? I think

it's better that Heather just speaks for
herself.

I agree. You know, like, I don't feel
comfortable. I don't want to get in this

game of telephone. I agree.

Well, let's call her. Look,

I do miss Heather, but I'm not dumb
enough to pick up the phone and call her

a trip that Bronwyn is hostessing. Hey.

Hey, Heather. Oh, my gosh. Hi.

Hi.

It's a double standard.

Like, if you had called Lisa's mortal
enemy, you'd be in the pool right now.

Everybody says they wish that you were
here.

I know, I'm sad.

Did you guys have fun with the fight,
kids?

Should I come back from the bathroom
now?

We were talking about why you weren't
here.

Why are you doing this right now?

I don't know.

Oh, my God.

We miss you. We wish you were here.

Have so much fun. It looks gorgeous.

We

miss

you. We wish you were here.

Have so much fun. It looks gorgeous.

I'm furious when I find out she's on the
phone with Heather.

Like, up until this point, I've been
like, maybe I did something wrong. Maybe

said something meaner than I remember.

Maybe Lisa and I are in a weird place.
No, this bitch dead ass wrong.

All right, bye.

All right, bye.

It feels a little weird I went to the
bathroom when you guys call Heather.

I feel like we're just telling her we
miss her. Like, I think we all miss her

and wish that things went better with
you guys.

I invited Heather over with the
intention very clearly to fix it with

that Heather could come.

It feels a little shady to call her and
be like, we miss you, we miss you.

We're just sad that she's not here.
That's all. I'm sad Heather's not here

without a relationship.

And I believe you. It's more of a
situation. I don't care if you believe

over me. No, it's not. It's kind of
weird you came if you do.

think you and I have a long
relationship. Yeah, we do. And I don't

when somebody talks poorly about you. I
don't.

I don't think she was talking poorly
about you. I think she was explaining

side of the story and how she felt.
That's what I was listening to.

You assume that I invited Heather over
to have a fight with her so she could

have come on a trip. That just was.

You're putting words in my mouth now. I
didn't say that.

Actually, I'm not putting words in your
mouth. I'm asking you, is that what it

was? Because I don't hear a lot of words
coming out of your mouth. And that does

kind of bother me because these two and
a lot of other people can attest that

words actually do come out of my mouth.
And you said very clearly words matter.

Words matter. They do, which is why when
somebody says to me, Lisa this or Lisa

that, I say, I don't believe that.
That's not a Lisa I know.

I am very thrown off by what's happening
with Lisa not defending me. And I did

recently go on a hike where Lisa was
very poorly talked about, and I defended

her. Lisa, unfortunately, is the type of
person that hurts other people to make

herself feel better.

I'm sad that that's what's happened. I
just can't say right now I've ever seen

that. So you'd think at some point that
if I wasn't owed loyalty because of our

friendship, I'd probably have bought it
by now with the trip I'm taking her on.

You don't have to be the same friend
that I am. We all show our own ways. But

it's starting to feel a little bit odd
to me that you're so tight with Heather

and you're so tight with Brittany. But
never once when Brittany has yelled at

have you called me the next day and
said, are you cool? Are you fine?

Do you feel okay?

Never once when Heather and I have had a
problem have you called me and said,

are you cool? Are you fine? Do you feel
okay?

The volume's going up, that's for sure.

I'm not going to say a word.

That's not my business.

I don't want to have anything to do with
it. This is really stupid.

I don't like it.

I can listen to Heather's feelings. She
did not throw you under the bus. That I

did. Ron was never thrown you under the
bus.

What did I do?

Here's the thing. You don't have to
defend me. No, no, no.

Don't defend me. And then you tell me
this is how they're feeling. This is how

they're feeling. And then the second I
have to take a leak, you call Heather.

Bronwyn, I am so glad you invite me and
I am so glad I'm here and I came as your

friend. I also listened to my other
friend who was speaking to me out of

And you didn't feel like maybe I should
check in with Bronwyn before I go on a

trip with her. Did you check in on me?
Whitney and I went to blows. I feel like

Whitney's lying about me. Did you check
in on me? I absolutely did.

Look at how great I stayed about Jen. I
don't want to insult myself.

I don't like being accused of things. If
I do something, I will take full

accountability. I do not like my
character question. I don't like when

accuse me of doing things I didn't do.

When I left Angie's house, I looked both
you and John in your face and said, are

you guys cool? I don't want to leave if
you guys are upset. Is there anything

else I could say? There's nothing more,
but we didn't have a conversation and

you didn't say, hey, this girl is
calling you a liar. All right, we've got

down there now. She's getting wound up.

Why don't we call Heather?

We did, Todd. That's why we're fighting.
Thank you, though.

Oh, okay.

I want to speak for myself. I don't want
anybody else in between. I will sit

over here because I'm not going to have
a million other people in between us.

You know what? I am your friend. I did
listen to Heather's perspective.

It's a little weird that Heather's
allowed to tell you two how she feels

me, and that's totally cool, and you
guys have to listen, but I'm not allowed

tell anybody how I feel.

Heather is saying Bronwyn is two -faced,
Bronwyn is untrustworthy, Bronwyn this.

Bronwyn is saying I want to be friends
with Heather. I tried to apologize to

Heather. Listen to the difference.

Heather is stalking me or stalking
someone else while I'm trying to fix it.

everybody thinks that Heather's the one
that's missed?

Figure it out, Lisa.

Yeah, I don't want to fight with you
about Heather and Heather being here. I

don't want to be involved in it. I
listen to Heather. She's my friend.

And I listen to you. I think the bottom
line is, like, you and Heather need to

work out the things with you and
Heather. And I don't like when people

involved in my life.

That's an absolute double standard.
Because you're telling me that when she

something about you, I should call and
check on you. But when Heather and I

an argument, I'm supposed to work it out
with Heather. It didn't happen.

It didn't happen. That's exactly what
I'm talking about.

When it's me and somebody else, it's my
responsibility to work out. But when

it's you and someone else, mine has to
ride your dick like it's my job, Lisa.

and somebody else it's my responsibility
to work out but when it's you and

someone else my ass better ride your
dick like it's my job lisa lisa and i

known each other for years but this trip
is becoming a turning point for me

where lisa is not mourning this crack in
our friendship lisa is jamming down

that crack to make this divide bigger
and if she thinks that like her and

heather's friendship is enough of a
consolation that she and i won't

be friends

You can go with God, Mazel. Like, I hope
so.

I have never asked for this, so, like,
this is just amazing. I didn't do

anything wrong, so I don't even feel a
little bit bad. And, like, she'll hear

from Heather, and they'll work it out,
and, like, everyone can apologize to me.

I just want to make sure you're okay.

I just need a break from that insanity.

Like it's insanity.

It is. What infuriates me is that I'm
kind of your friend when I need to be.

what she doesn't want to say is Heather
was wrong to storm out of your house.

Heather was wrong to not take an
apology. And it's wrong of us to call

bring this.

up and stir it on your trip that we came
on. Lisa and Meredith didn't need to

come if they feel weird about it. They
really, like, I don't pity need them to

come on my trip with me. Because if they
were truly neutral, they wouldn't be

saying to me, well, here's why this went
weird with Heather. Why didn't you say

to Heather, I know Bronwyn, she's very
direct. If it went sideways, you must

have said something to her. Yes, that's
what I would have said.

This is between Bronwyn and Heather, so
I don't know.

Who is in the wrong here? But I can see
how Bronwyn is really hurt that Lisa is

now spokesperson for Heather Gay.

Like if Lisa could just stay out of it,
this wouldn't even be a thing.

It's an excellent thought.

And I feel like for me, I can be a good
friend, but I didn't hear from Bronwyn

and she didn't say, Heather came to my
house and she said this and this. But

can I say to Heather, you're wrong, your
feelings are wrong. Nope, I don't

believe you. Here's the problem.

Not only is Lisa blind loyal to Heather,
even to my face when Heather is not in

the room, but Lisa is a big part of some
stuff that's going on with my family

right now. She knows things are hard for
me. She has not checked in on me. And

then the second I say, maybe not you're
being a bad friend. I didn't even say

that. I just said, you're not being the
friend I am to you.

She says, well, you didn't check on me.

Absolute bullshit. I did all of the
things Lisa wants me to have done, but

hasn't done any of them. She has not
done it for you. She's still not doing

for me, and then the second I call her
out, it's like I didn't do something.

What's that?

Do you want me to let you have a private
conversation?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me one sec. Thank
you. Of course.

Sorry, Todd.

I told you I wasn't going to deal with
this with these people. I know. I think

told you specifically her that I
wouldn't do this. Neither I would leave

could leave.

And I'm getting there.

I know.

I should just tell John and Lisa they
should leave.

We'll give them some money, get them a
car, they can leave.

Maybe I should tell them because I'm
nicer than you.

Todd can be an asshole, but in this
case, he's kind of like my knight in

asshole. You know what I mean? Like, he
is riding into battle for me.

And I appreciate Todd coming to my
rescue, but I would like Todd to come to

rescue with a Nerf gun, not a machete.
And I know Todd only operates the

machetes.

Look, I'm not sitting through this all
weekend, and this is bullshit.

All right, dude, this is getting out of
control.

Lisa and Bronwyn.

What's going on?

All the bullshit.

I told Bronwyn I wasn't coming to spend
the weekend here to sit through a bunch

of arguments.

So it's got to stop.

Lisa's got to stop, or you guys got to
go.

I'll go talk to Lisa.

Okay. All right, man.

Lisa, are you in here?

All right, Amanda, let's go eat lunch.

Do you figure it out with John or what
happened with John?

I said we're not going to deal with
this.

And he said, well, then I'll go talk to
Lisa. Okay.

Okay. I've had enough of this.

I've had a whole weekend's worth in
three hours.

Yeah.

What's going on with you and Bronwyn?
Because Todd just came out pretty

Bronwyn's like, you're not having my
side with Heather.

But I'm like, Heather's my friend, too.

And she expressed her feelings with me,
too.

So I'm like, it's all confusing.

What did Todd just say to you?

He just said Bronwyn's real upset.

And he said, if it can't be settled out.

then he wants us to go.