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You know what you guys are good?

Oh.

What I've done for the last 20 years is
direct response marketing.

I make millions.

Hey, you got to do what you got to do
for money.

I'm like the Wizard of Oz.

Lisa and I met the first Sundance that I
lived in Utah. I know she has my back.

I know she wants what's best for me. I
know there's no ulterior motive there.

She was like...

Oh, my God, you're amazing. And I just
felt the same way about her. I just

really like that Meredith is 100 %
Meredith all the time.

She's super consistent, and she's a
great person.

Heather and I have been friends for
years. We are actually cousins. We are

bloodline relatives.

She's the best human I know, and she's
such a good friend to me. She never

explodes on me. I can tell her anything
I want, critical or otherwise, and I

know that she will listen, and we can
talk it out.

our time is coming i just can't lie to
you this is a test for all of us i want

to kill myself jen you know what right
now i'm being here everything's been

taken away from me everything i've never
confided in you lisa because i never

fully trusted you i was talking to
myself i was ranting like normal people

speak about your yes you're a friend
that way okay

You are my girl, Heather.

Is it possible you're wrong and making
it all about you? No.

So what for your people?

You are saying our friendship is both?

That hurts me, Heather.

Thank you for calling me a liar.

You called me a liar. You lost me,
bitch. You lost me.

But what people don't know about Salt
Lake City?

is what lies beneath that image of
perfection.

Let me say that again.

So unnerving.

Hey, John.

Oh, you look great.

Thanks. I'm going to head out. I'm going
to head to lunch right now.

Oh, yeah? How are you feeling about it?

I'll let you know when I'm done.

Okay. Looking forward to it. Okay. Love
you. All right. Love you.

Hi. How are you?

I'm good. I'm actually on my way to meet
someone.

I'll probably be, like, a little
unreachable for a few hours.

Well, hello.

You were literally around the corner.

I wasn't kidding. No.

How are you? You look cute. Oh, I love
you.

Hey, Heather. Hi. How are you? Good. How
are you?

Good to see you.

This is beautiful.

Isn't it nice?

Oh, my gosh.

What a gorgeous view.

Not too chilly, and the hot tub will
feel nice and warm.

Okay.

Can I step in the locker?

Someone asked me eight months ago if I'd
be hanging out with Jen.

I would look at them like they were
crazy.

Did you like a comment referring to my
son as a sissy bitch?

No! You're in Twitter, Jen!

Miracles do happen.

When Jen and I were in L .A., I

think that she sort of got an
understanding of everything that I went

last winter.

I had some very serious issues well
beyond just losing my father.

My reactions, everything was amplified a
million times over.

I totally understand. And Meredith,
honestly, when I saw you, I saw myself a

year ago.

Thank you.

Cheers. Cheers to a new year.

And a new us.

I will drink to that. No more fighting.
No more fighting.

It's just all love from here on out.
Yes.

It was tough.

Winter for both of us, you know?

Yeah. What are you feeling right now
after Lisa going on her tirade?

I've never seen her stuff. I'm done with
her. Because I'm not a fucking whore

and I don't cheat on my husband. Her and
her dumb fucking family that poses.

I felt that. It's a process and I'm
still dealing with it. And I'm sure I

be for a while, you know?

I've been going through so much and, you
know, my trial starts in like a month

and a half.

And so I'm trying to plan a birthday
party for Coach Shaw.

Just to show Coach how much I appreciate
him. And so I was planning on inviting

Lisa and Josh.

How's everything going?

I mean, good.

She's going to take a V -diploma, too.

Excellent. I trust Lisa implicitly with
alcohol.

I agreed to meet with Lisa because she
said she needed me.

And she's never said she's needed me
before.

I never called Heather a threat. Oh,
you've called me horrible things. I have

never called you a threat. You've called
me a Lego figurine.

The fact that she's scraping the bottom
of the barrel to call me is probably the

last person on the earth that she wants
to call.

If I can do something of value for Lisa,
then maybe she won't hate me as much.

To us.

I didn't expect that, but okay.

For me, it's, like, very uncomfortable
to say this, but, like, I need some help

with Meredith.

I feel like you are able to navigate
situations differently. Like, I feel

you say what you're thinking, you say
what you're feeling, and you, like, end

up, like, fine. And I feel like now I'm,
like, like the worst person on earth.

And, like, Meredith, I'm banished. I
need your advice. I need help. Well,

is most sacred to Meredith? If I were to
ask you without any... Her family.

Okay. Yeah.

Her family. Yeah. And you came for her
family?

I didn't feel like I came for a family.
It wasn't a blind rage. It wasn't

intentional.

Regardless, it's on the table. You did.
So you have to make it right.

The questions that are going to be asked
are, is that how you really feel about

Meredith? What do you think?

I think that's how you really feel about
Meredith. No, no, no, no.

I don't know. I'm still trying to figure
out where I stand on everything.

I mean, she went through and completely
defamed my character on things that just

aren't true.

Haters. She's a whore. She's half of New
York.

And so then you say, well, where did
this come from? Are you listening to

and spreading rumors?

Because at the end of the day, I'm
hearing rumors left, right, and center

Lisa. And am I spreading them?

No.

So, let's see.

Is it just her protecting her own truth?

Or is it just she decided to be a total
asshole because she was angry?

Lisa Barlow said about her sister and
best friend.

What Meredith needs to do is monetize
that. Make garbage trash whore t

So what rumors are you hearing?

Um, there have been question marks
surrounding her marriage.

Do I really want to dig into Lisa's
stuff? No, I really have no interest.

you're going to sit there talking about
everyone else, fair game on her at this

point.

Fair game.

I mean, there are fair rumors. I'm not
getting into any of it, but there are

rumors. I don't know if they're true or
false.

But they exist.

Yeah, I've heard the same thing.

Even if you feel like what you said...

It's justified if you feel like what you
said. I didn't feel like it was

justified. I mean, we have to be clear
about that. I'm very clear about that.

doesn't even matter. Like, you're in the
position where you have to say, I

didn't mean it. It was a moment, and I'm
going to have to eat for it for a long

time.

I don't think humble pie is something
that Lisa likes to eat, will ever eat,

will for sure never pretend to enjoy
eating.

And all three of those things need to
occur for her to bridge this gap with

Meredith. I've eaten so much humble pie.
It's amazing I still fit in this dress.

I think there needs to be give on both
sides, honestly.

But the bigger side has to come from you
because you said the mean things that

are out there forever.

Okay, I hear you.

I hear you.

Coming up... If you say to the church, I
want you to excommunicate me, I want to

remove my name from the record, what
changes in your day -to -day life?

Is that Bobby Rose?

I'm spreading some pros and cons about
guys.

Wait, what?

Some pros and cons about guys?

What do you mean by guys?

Like men.

Like men?

Yes. How old are you, Barbara?

Let me see what you got.

Pros.

Athletic.

Good style.

Nice. That's a big one.

Hi, Dad.

Hey. Dad, come look at this. She's
writing a pros and cons list about guys.

You're going to have to take that one up
with your daddy.

Well, I'm really worried that there's
not as many cons as there are pros.

I don't know how I feel about that.

Whit? Hello?

Hey! Get in here. I need a rescue right
now. Hi. Hi. You need a rescue?

What's going on? I need you to tag in
here.

Hi, Bobby. This is a department I don't
know much about. Hey, what's up? What

are we working on?

Pros and cons about guys.

Well, it's going to be hard to get any
cons from me, Bobby.

She's completely and utterly boy crazy.

Sixth grade, like, think of sixth grade.

I didn't have my first kiss till 15.

That's too long.

I didn't have my first kiss till 15
either. Oh, my gosh. But I still wanted

in sixth grade.

I was a good little Mormon girl, and I
followed all the rules. I was not

interested in boys until the Mormon
handbook told me I could be.

I just put doesn't do what asked of me,
so like if they don't listen to me.

Honey, you got to take that off your
list.

You don't want someone that does exactly
what you ask them to do all the time.

Bobby Rose has some ridiculously high
standards. I think you can dress a guy.

don't think style matters.

That is true.

I just want to take like a sharpie and
just be like, never going to get it,

never going to get it, never going to
get it. Settle, settle, settle.

Not attractive, ugly sex is going to
change your life. Let's put that one

too.

I want to be as hopeful as Bobby Rose
when I make out my pros and cons list,

honestly. Let's go downstairs.

What can I get you to drink?

Whatever you guys are drinking.

There's rosé or a really nice tequila.
You know what? In a nod to me being Team

Lisa Barlow lately, let's do a tequila.
All right. I got you.

Hi. Hey, I need to talk to you. I'm
dying. What's going on?

It's good. As much as I want to be like,
no, run.

We need to get over our... Yeah, we made
it a speakeasy.

Yeah, and you can lock the bookshelf.
Lock up top.

This is so cool, you guys.

Yeah. Feels good to me, too.

I love it. And, like, close the door,
padlock it. Don't let the kids in. The

fact that we have a bar in our home is a
big deal. I never knew anyone with a

bar. I remember, like, going to my
friend's house and, like, seeing her

like, drinking wine and being like, OMG.

But, no, I, you know, I've been, like,
on this, like, healing journey. And I

a big healing session with Megan the
other day.

So the past keeps showing up over and
over.

Because I don't have a memory of it.
Yeah. And I think that's what's

in your gut. It's wanting to stay in the
past. It's trying to resolve what

happened in the past.

The great thing about this trauma with
your early childhood is clearing out

old energy allows you to move forward.

This energy we're going to hand to the
universe up and over your body.

Think of this trauma.

Ask yourself, is it still here?

Yes, please do.

And it really hit me that one of the
biggest heathers or like wounds they

is the church.

came to the realization that I'm ready
to close that chapter and leave

officially and ask them to remove my
name.

If you say to the church, I want you to
excommunicate me, I want to remove my

name from the record, what changes in
your day -to -day life?

Nothing changes in my day -to -day life.

But to know Whitney is to know that the
freedom that comes with the release is

what sees through. So this is about
inner...

I'm doing this for Bobby and Brooke so
that they do not fall into my cycle of

limited beliefs, of not being good
enough, and not being heard.

Having my name on the record of the
Mormon Church means that they're still

tracking what I'm doing.

That means that they still send people
to my house to check on me. They still

come to collect money. Even when you
move, they know where you moved and your

record transferred.

You have to understand this. I still
have this tether.

To this programming, to this mindset.
And so like the treatment of women

women are subordinate to men. I want to
break that because I am a woman and I

can do whatever I want because I'm a
human.

When you do this process, you are saying
I choose outer darkness and no

communion with God over being numbered
as a member of the Mormon church.

The Mormons believe that our names are
recorded like in a ledger for God.

When you elect to have your name removed
from the list, it's like a steel door

on their version of heaven and their
community forever.

What do you have to do right now? Like,
what's going to happen? I can literally,

literally go to QuitMormon .com.

How will you do that?

I mean, there's no doubt watching her do
this that I'm thinking, can I, will I,

would I ever do this?

I demand that you remove my name
completely from your records within five

business days of receipt.

Wow. I printed it. But, like, even with
my dad gone, I still want to be a good

daughter. And even with my mom not
speaking to me, I still want to be a

daughter.

And I don't know if my family would
recover if they knew I did that. I've

lot of shitty things to Mormonism.

You know, I've hurt my family in so many
ways, but I feel like that would be

like the final knife in their back.

And I'm not there yet.

Heather. You printed it?

This is the letter.

Do you feel like there's anything there
for you?

Babe, I can't sign this fast enough.

Thank you for being care for me,
Heather.

Babe, I know you hate... You are my
exemplar. You are fearless. I know you

when I get on the list and put P. Philly
on your list. Bring it in. I love a

little miss.

I love you.

You are totally fearless.

Coming up... She's questioning, are
finances yet ICSEC documents that

say that their company was not making
money?

Hey, you know the fireplace?

How do you turn that on?

Okay, I didn't put it on FaceTime. Okay,
hold on.

Okay, bring it closer. It's on the left.

Right here.

Okay. And then to the right, you see
those knobs?

Oh, right here.

Put it on pilot and then push that red
button.

I've been adjusting to the new house,
okay? I went from 9 ,000 square feet.

To half of that, I went from the Barbie
dream house closet, okay?

Oh, my God. Jenny, I love this.

To, like, a normal -sized closet.

Huh? Yeah, but it's not good.

Coach Shaw, who is the voice of reason
in our marriage, sat me down, and we

discussed this.

We can get a smaller spot. We don't have
to pay as much because the most

important thing is being able to fight
for your freedom.

Hi, honey. What are you doing?

I'm trying to start the fireplace.

Oh, honey. It's better just to leave it
alone.

Along with downsizing the house, I also
had to downsize the Shaw squad.

Okay, I'll talk to you later.

So I'm doing my best. That's all I can
say. I'm doing my very, very best.

How was work today? Long, long, baby.

Maybe can I get a coffee? That'd be
nice.

Okay.

A coffee, a tea, or something.

Um, let's talk about the party.

Okay. This is Coach's 51st birthday.

Angie Katsuneva said I could use her
house to hold it.

Angie and I have been friends since
college.

She also went to high school with
Heather. She's good friends with Lisa,

When she offered up her house, I'm like,
this will be perfect.

Obviously, this will be little cocktail
tables. We've got the piano player in

the corner. Oh, with an actual piano?
Jen's got a piano player. We're dropping

piano here Friday.

I'm used to hosting these parties at my
house.

But every penny is literally going to
fighting my case.

You might not think this, but I can
operate on a budget.

The theme of the party is Harlem Nights
because you love that movie.

Okay, honey.

You remember we're in Utah, okay? Salt
Lake City and Harlem Nights in Harlem.

A lot of black folks, which we're devoid
of here.

Are we going to import black people
here? Yes. What are we going to do? Yes,

are. So I'm inviting the brides. Who?

Your fraternity brothers.

Which ones? The ones here are coming.

Okay? Good. Some of our family's coming.

Who else is coming? I invited Heather
with me.

Was planning on inviting Lisa and John,
because I know you would want John there

at your party, but Meredith's going to
be there.

What I don't want is to use a party at
some platform for somebody to confront

something. Oh, I need to tell her about
how I feel. Do that shit someplace else.

There's a lot of other things that are
so much more important than this. And

what I want to do is have a good time.

As we...

come closer to, you know, the trial
date. That in and of itself is a lot to

with. My trial is seven weeks from
today. It's on March 22nd.

I'm the only defendant left that is
still going to trial.

I have no idea what's going on with the
other defendants in this case.

I have no idea why they've taken a plea
deal, but I'm not going to take a plea

deal when I'm not guilty, I'm innocent.

We need to get to New York for a
pretrial meeting, and more than

just millions and tons of documents that
we have to continue to review and

analyze. I would be lying if I said I
wasn't scared.

I'm not thinking about myself, I'm
thinking about my family.

I can't imagine being away from them.

It would literally kill me.

There's still other individuals we need
to talk to regarding their participation

in the trial.

There's a bunch of deadlines they were
telling me about, you know, coming up

next week.

We have a lot of things that we have to
get ready for.

What did you get ramen noodles for? Do
you think we're college students or

something? Who wants ramen noodles?

Really?

For a guy who can't keep a job, this is
what we eat.

Why don't you own a house?

Wait, you can't. You haven't changed a
job in five minutes?

Next time I can't send you. That's what
happens when you send me to the grocery

store. I should have never.

I mean, really? Jelly?

Well, the best brand in the world.

This is crazy.

This is a lot of stuff.

The groceries? No, just getting like
situated here and figuring it all out.

Question is, where do you want to?

trench down.

I'm not ready to trench down quite yet.
I'm kind of having fun being like an

empty nester wanderer.

Our children are out of the house. Beth
is working remotely for the most part.

So we're enjoying being able to go
wherever we want, whenever we want. And

despite what Lisa says, I could own
multiple homes if I wanted to.

The only reason I even care about that
commentary is not only could she own you

and your career with spewing her
nonsense BS, but you have 4 ,000

that her negative commentary can impact
their livelihoods. That's pretty self

-centered. What does Seth do, really?
Well, what does John Barlow do for a

living, other than follow Lisa around?

I need a Diet Coke from Sun.

I want Taco Bell.

Two tables and four chairs. I'm going to
go inside because it's cold. John is

the best.

Because I would not do that for him.

We'll hurry because I've got to send
wires. Sorry,

I'm keeping you from doing your job.

Honestly, I totally understand John
Barlow.

What can I do for you right now? We have
our own business together, so it's Lisa

and I doing the business with Vita.

We own everything together.

Did Lisa prep you for this interview?

I can neither confirm nor deny.

Is she responsible for 4 ,000 employees?

I mean, I hear that they own this
distillery in Mexico. Have they ever

Mexico since we met them?

She's questioning our, you know,
finances yet ICSEC documents that

their company is not making money.

Fact. It's a legal public document that
anyone can read.

It just shows that the Barlows were
crowdfunding for their business. In

the company was reporting losses and had
some outstanding debt.

It raises a question mark, that's for
sure.

Is this just like a projection, like
she's busy questioning our relationship,

affairs, cheating, whatever you want to
call it, sleeping with people, yet those

rumors are flying about her.

Lisa tries to show this life of
perfection.

What I hear from others of everything
I'm hearing is actually true. Her life

not so great.

Like, that's the most absurd thing,
unless you're super defensive because

hiding something else.

I have never exchanged sex for money.
That's what a whore is.

Maybe someone else has. I don't know.

Are you insinuating that Lisa has fucked
with someone from here?

Do you reach out to her?

Why would I reach out to her?

I'm not reaching out to her to ask her
to apologize to me. That doesn't work.

It's very sad that somebody just wants
to throw away a 10 -year friendship over

some skeletons in their own closet.

I'm not convinced that these buttons are
going to work, but...

Really in there.

Cut the party and just pop.

Did I wear panties today?

I probably would.

I'm a filthy jerk.

Let's get you in your dress, Jen.

Let me go put my spanks on.

Okay.

Have you got brown?

No. First of all, that's not the vibe.
What is it? Brooklyn Nights?

Harlem. Really?

Wow, it's beautiful. Thank you so much.

I love the cake.

This was so good.

Would you like a drink?

I've known Angie Kay since I moved to
Utah when I was 15 years old.

At our 10 -year reunion, she pulled up
in a Lamborghini.

The rest of us had, like, six kids and,
like, were wearing, like, outfits from

Old Navy.

She was for sure the coolest girl at the
10 -year reunion.

Oh,

this is pretty.

It sounds like there's fun happening. I
love that.

You know, I mean, I don't know what I'm
walking into tonight.

Like seeing Meredith and Seth at this
point, it's going to be awkward. Hi, how

are you?

I know if the roles reversed, I would at
least be open to hearing the apology.

And if it's sincere, I'm sure I would
accept it. You look gorgeous.

I wouldn't throw away a 10 year
friendship over one bad moment.

Yeah,

this is what it's supposed to look like.

Too much.

Too much. Too much.

That's why I've got to get out of the
scene.

The party looks absolutely beautiful.

Now, if I hosted this at my home, it
would have been a little bit different.

It was hard for me to, like, let go.

Thanks for having us.

And we're here for you guys if you need
anything.

T -shirt from college. This is Meredith.

It's so nice to meet you.

I'm getting me a drink, babe.

Yeah, what do you want?

Something with Vita. I need tequila.

Hey,

your oldest baby.

I got to ask you, Santa Barbara?

Santa Barbara. She loves it. Tell her to
go to class because she's beautiful.

Listen, she's going to class. She's got
straight A's, first quarter.

Oh, mom.

I am a big fan. I love your game

From Big Daddy to Big Baby is like going
from a Shirley Temple to a piña colada.

I heard you're the Big Easy.

Are you not? I heard you're the Big
Easy.

Anything to drink to?

You know what? Could I do a cranberry
and orange juice?

Oh, God.

Oh, yes, yes.

I mean, I have not had a housewarming
party.

love that meredith is a woman of
principle but on that same note there's

mormon proverb that says where much is
given much is expected so if you've

10 years to a friendship you're expected
to have a conversation about a path to

forgiveness it is brave of you to be
here you can also just walk away and say

i'm not going to be around that you have
that option you know coming up

Oh, give me 50 on that hardcore, Randy.

I'm so glad you're having a good time.
I'm so happy.

Enjoy yourself.

Enjoy yourself.

I'm so happy. I'm happy you're having a
good time. You never relax. I know, huh?

All right, go, boy. Come on, you want to
get a little sip of something to sip

on?

Everybody, we need Jen to make a seat.

Everybody, we need Jen to make a little
toast to the birthday boy.

Coach doesn't really like celebrating
his birthdays that much. I don't.

But, you know, this year was very
special.

It was important for me to show you how
much I love and appreciate you.

I know we've been through a lot.

And because of everything we've been
going through, it means more to me than

ever in my life to have people that I
know that really, truly love me

and love our family.

And to everybody that has been there and
just thank you for being here

too.

Wish coach a happy birthday because this
birthday I think means more to me than

anything because we can still be here
together to celebrate The

one

thing that can bring me to tears almost
instantly is Thinking of

life without my wife by my side that's
hard to

Hard to stomach.

You look good.

We'll see you then.

Are you in town long?

This week, yeah.

Well, if you can break away, let me
know.

Yeah.

Whatever our wives are up, that's...

accountable for Mary's behavior, I know
you're not accountable for Lisa's

behavior.

I have to believe that. Yes. Because I
know it's true for me. Oh, for sure. For

sure. No, never change.

Never change at all.

I do like your tie.

Thank you, man. You look sharp.

Oh, look at you.

I'm going to pinch you some chips. How
are you doing?

Good. Oh my gosh, good.

Are you going to say anything to
Meredith or Seth?

I don't think the time's right right
now.

I don't think it's the right time.

Tonight's not about that. You know what
I mean? We can save it for later.

Especially with everything Jen has going
on, I really just want to be here for

her. It's like hard now. It's about to
get harder.

Well, that's the theme. That's what we
keep hearing is that she just really

needs us to be there for her.

before she goes to New York. We need to.
Where should we go? Where should we go?

Somewhere close, not a long flight.

Somewhere warm, the sunshine, us can see
Arizona.

All right, I will take care of
everything. I'll take care of all the

You've had two months nearly now to
reach out to me and tell me you want to

to me. I just want you to know I love
you, and I'm really, really sorry. Leave

me alone.

Look, look, look, look.

That's fine. We can talk.

Okay.

Hey, Seth.

How are you?

Can I hug you?

Is it okay?

You don't have to.

That's cute.

It was crazy, so I'm still trying. Yeah,
I'm sorry.

It was devastating.

I know, I know.

It was hard on me.

Yeah, I know.

You made some comments about me that I
couldn't believe either. I regret all of

that. I can't even believe I said those
things. I don't feel that way about

narrative. I don't feel that way about
you. Like, I don't. Like, I don't.

I hope

you

can understand this. I literally have
been able to...

Like, it's been weighing on me. And,
like, John's like, it's going to be

But, like, it doesn't feel like it.

What is happening there?

She said to Mom, she didn't text me. She
didn't text me. She didn't text me. She

hasn't said anything, right? No. Like,
if you want to talk to me, tell us. But

why are you talking to my husband right
now while we're trying to have fun and

celebrate your birthday?

I literally thought that was, like, a
blind, like, rant.

Do you know what? what the root of that
was it was never before that trip like

i'd never thought those things i don't
even think those things now but like on

the van on the way down everyone's like
she's not your friend like that's not

your friend and then like just hearing
it over and over again does that make

sense none of it makes sense to me like
to get to where you got to i can

never imagine myself saying something
like that about someone we love

And Seth, I understand that. Like, I
don't even remember saying those things.

And I did feel hurt. Like, I understand
Meredith was hurting. I was hurting,

too.

I'm not making excuses, but I was coming
from a place of hurt.

It just seemed so hateful. It wasn't. It
was hurt. I'm human and I was hurting.

It wasn't a hate. It was hurt.

I'm one of five girls.

And, like, I'm a girl's girl. I have...

Four sisters that I'm, like, very
responsible for.

And, like, I have my stuff going on too.
Nobody knows what goes on for me.

Nobody asks me. And then I'm trying to,
like, be there for others.

I've never talked badly about marrying
into anyone.

There's not one person in this friend
group that can say I've ever said

about her.

I know, but I thought I was in a private
space just, like, hurting.

It wasn't meant for anybody else to
hear.

And, like, I don't expect you to, like,
like, forgive.

I don't expect that. She's hurt more
than me, and rightfully so.

It's hard right now to, like, just keep
moving forward.

Thanks for listening to me.

Do I have a problem saying I'm sorry?
Never. Do I have a problem taking

accountability for my actions or my
words? Not at all.

But at some point, if it's not being
heard and the apology isn't being

there's nothing more I can do. I have to
move on.

Do you care if we leave?

You okay?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine.

What was she saying?

I wasn't ready for it.

Why did you even go there?

What was I going to do?

I was saying that it's not the time and
place.

Bad news is she seems to be accusing it
and not taking accountability for it.

Is it?

An apology when you're excusing the
behavior.

Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Love
you. Bye. Good night.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City. We're going to plan a little

party. It's going to be called the
Garbage Trash Whore Lingerie Party.

I'll just say GTW.

GTW.

I love Arizona in the winter.

What's up?

I miss you.

Do you feel like saying hi, Lisa?

No.

I love you both, and maybe it's at the
point now where there can be a

conversation, and she can hear you. Have
you talked to her about it?

Yes.

Meredith brought up rumors about Lisa
having affairs.

I just heard that she was, you know,
doing favors to help get places to pick

them for you to pick you up. You have to
swallow it and bury it.

We have a shaman coming.

She recommended not drinking.

Yeah. How are we feeling?

I had some anxiety.

Well, I used to feel like I was a safe
space for you. You are not a safe space,

Lisa.

And that's not a lie.