All language subtitles for The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City – S5E7

Previously on The Real Housewives of
Salt Lake City. Look at these mobsters.

Wow, you guys look amazing.

Look at you.

This thing that I have with my friends
is not always copacetic.

But I think you made a comment about
Lisa's parents.

Why are you getting in my relationship
with Angela? You are in charge and you

can manage everyone's relationship.

You trust her feedback over our history.
What are you doing? What are you doing?

What are you doing, Heather?

People are talking about prism.

Basically that you're like white
labeling jewelry from China.

Done. I reached out to someone and
verbally confirmed that it's Lisa

I didn't do it to you!

Shut the f*** up about that!

doing something I did not do.

So I want you to get the police
involved, and I want you to prove her

because she's lying right now, and I'm
living. I am not lying. I'm living. You

know what? Every time I think we're
friends, you fuck.

You have to deal with the lies and sit
through this. I would never, ever, ever.

She is a liar. Don't call my wife a
liar. She's a liar, Justin.

She's not a liar. She's a liar.

She's a liar.

Hey, whoa.

Stop,

stop, stop, stop.

Don't put your hand in my chest.

Don't say the word to my wife.

I didn't say that. Yeah, you did. He
said he's not a liar.

What Lisa just did by charging at my
husband is wildly inappropriate because

is trying to incite the husband into
this drama now. And what does she expect

happen?

You and my friends are not friends.
We're not friends. We're not friends. My

friends don't lie about me. We're going
to have Mary. We've got Mary doing a

blessing for my union.

She's a liar. Good luck with that.

This is slander. You're accusing me
vehemently, stating that I did something

that I know I did not do.

Somebody take her temperature because
she's clearly sick.

Stay away from him.

Well, hi, everyone. Why would you
believe her?

She keeps calling her attorney. Give her
the benefit of the doubt. I didn't call

my attorney.

You're lying about me.

You're lying about me.

I am not lying about you. You're lying
about me. I need you all to take a deep

breath.

My daughter's here. I did not do that or
anything around it. I did not do it.

Okay, fingers down. I don't need chaos
to ensue in my home. I did not do it.

going to keep my fingers going. If I had
rented an event center, you guys go at

it, pull hair, take each other out. But
this is my house, so we're not going to

do that here.

I'm just going to ask everyone to be
quiet for a minute because Mary's going

give us a blessing. We probably should
have done this hours ago. Yeah, we

have.

It is so warm in here, or is it just me?

Okay, if I can ask everybody to, like,
join hands. This is someone you love.

Lisa, will you please grab Whitney's
hand? Thank you, Mary. Whitney, will you

hold Lisa's hand? I'm good. It's very
important.

Don't lie about me. And don't call me a
liar.

Well, then don't tell lies about me.
Okay.

Heavenly Father, we want to thank you
right now.

Lord, we ask you to bless Angie, bless
Electra and Sean, and bless all the ones

under the sounds of my voice.

We want to feel your spirit, and we pray
in the name of Jesus.

Thank you. Amen.

Amen. I did nothing to you. Through DMs,
through fake accounts, none of that is

from me.

So just remember that. I wouldn't do
that to you. I could hate you, and I

wouldn't do that to you. And I don't
hate you.

Because you're lying about that.

Don't you lie.

Stay out of it. Stay out of it. John,
John. If you talk to me again, John. You

don't need to talk to Lisa. Lisa, we are
fine. We can handle ourselves. This

feels big, though. I have never seen the
husbands fight before. Even when we are

at each other's throats, they get along.

So this scares me. It feels
unrecoverable.

Angie, son, thank you for having us.
Before it gets too heated, we're going

go.

I'm exhausted by it because every time I
feel like we take two steps forward,

she, like, goes back to the school. And
then for her to accuse me of that, bull.

I bought her first piece of jewelry.

Wow. That was awkward.

I do not like my character question.

I didn't do anything to her and I put up
with enough. I'm not forgiving for

this. We're done.

You know, let's go. This is crazy.

All right. See you guys.

Hey. I cooked up the chicken. Oh, my
gosh. I love that chicken.

Are you good with salad?

Yeah, that sounds really good.

What have you been doing?

Not much. I've had a quiet day.

You've had a quiet day? I needed it
after last night, Mr.

Boxer. No, Mr.

I'm going to stand up for my mouthy
wife.

No, mouthy. You better get ready to
fight again.

You're dumping out all the blue jays?

Yeah.

If they're not going to support us, why
would we support them?

Do you want to, like, give it to
someone?

Yeah, to the drain.

Do you disagree? You're going to dump
out all the Vita's Kila, too?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, that is a gift.

I guess we don't accept gifts anymore
from the bottle.

You're going to dump a brand new bottle?

All right, I feel better. How do you
feel?

I was so surprised at Justin's reaction
last night. He went from a smile to, I'm

going to kill you, Faith, within a
blink.

And that's when my alarm, my protector
alarm, whatever you want to call it,

off. I don't think you're in the wrong.
I thought Justin's reaction to me was

super aggressive. Like, if Whitney
walked over to John and just said, your

did this to me, John would be like,
okay, Whitney, whatever.

Like, he wouldn't get aggressive in tone
toward her.

Like, he's never going to do that.

He was pissed.

The impact of John, like, I had a rage
that I haven't had in a long time, and I

tried to stay calm, and I know you were,
like, freaking out.

I was freaking out because I've never
seen you do that before.

When have you seen someone come into my
space like that?

Never. All you said is, don't call my
wife a liar.

A liar?

How do you feel about Justin right now?
Like, do you want to talk to him?

If it comes down to it, I like Justin.

I'm not going to let this get in the way
of us being friends. I think he's a

cool dude.

And now we have to figure out a way to
move forward.

Well, it's the first time that John and
I have ever had a situation.

Like, even the first time that I felt
uncomfortable around John.

I think she wanted a fight to distract
from what I had just called her out for.

She's defaming my character. She's,
like, using a lie to attack me. So I'm

you have no proof because I didn't do
it.

If I wanted to get something out there,
I would go to the Post, New York Times,

maybe go on Good Morning America.

But, like, nobody gives a f*** about
your jewelry anyway, Whitney. You're

that this gets you $100 ,000 in sales
when it airs. Good luck.

We feel so bad for Whitney. We're going
to buy her healing necklaces.

She's going to have to beg me to ever
even look at her again.

You want matcha? Yes, thank you. I'm so
glad you're on break.

You're on holiday. The boss let me take
a 15 -minuter.

Yeah. She's so nice. I hear the boss is
amazing. I hear the boss is amazing.

Okay, I am dying.

I mean, what in the world?

How did that...

happened like did you see the fight
happen no oh with johnny dustin yeah

did you oh i was talking about jared
showing oh that's i mean you know what

let's take it a step at a time there
were so many traumas first of all erin

like to how did wedding honestly i'm
like yeah i'm missing right i have

questions oh jared shows up at the party
his girlfriend's there with another day

you look like a war bit widow

You can't do this. What in the world?

We could see your pain. I was like, oh,
my gosh. I love him. I know.

And I'm so confused because he's so good
to me on the one hand. And so not all

in. On the other hand, my heart's with
you. And you know that.

Well, Aaron's a great guy. And he seems
like a great guy. No, he seems like a

great guy. You should probably go hang
out with him.

What happened to I'm going to repair my
relationship with my daughters and I'm

going to be single. That's still on the
table.

I'm single.

I'm going to give it to you straight.

All right.

I love you. I don't want you to look
crazy, but you're talking crazy.

I don't know how to even talk to you
about it because we've had the same

over and over. I have totally sacrificed
my kids for a man.

I should probably be single for a while.
Are you in love with him?

Yes, I am in love with him.

I feel like that's so condescending.

I'm not trying to be condescending. I
understand that that might be hurtful.

trying to get it to you straight.

And that's just common sense. Have you
ever loved someone and then been stuck,

like found yourself right back? I've had
toxic relationships, yes.

And what did you do?

That my entire life.

It's just hard. I mean, I'm just still
searching for the love I've never

And I feel so alone with my kids being
gone and my mom passing

away with my best friend.

No, I get it. I just feel alone.

I am lonely. It's hard without my girls.
It's hard to be a mom without being

able to be a mom.

But I don't feel like it's an either or.
I can still be the mom that I'm trying

to be and date and find some happiness
of my own.

I don't want to hurt you. I don't want
you to feel like you can't share your

crazy with me.

I am crazy.

If you're crazy, you're in a very good
group. I hope so.

I'm starving. I haven't eaten today. Me
either.

Table for two, yeah? Table for two,
right this way. Thank you. You're

So cute. Thank you.

Oh,

it's nice and warm in here. It's so cute
in here.

Like the ones at Deer Valley.

Yep. I grabbed you guys some water.
Thank you.

Thanks. Can I get a nice tea, too,
please? Sounds great. Anything for you,

'am? The Kodo, please.

I'm going to have the seared salmon,
please. Sounds great. Thank you. I'll

that right out.

Well, how was your trip? You got
everything done?

Uh -huh.

Everybody was asking, you know, where
you were.

But they all know I work in New York,
so.

Todd really travels three to four days a
week, which provides an opportunity for

my favorite thing, which is to do an
airport pickup in a costume.

Oink, oink.

What? I said oink, oink.

Don't ask.

You want to dance with me?

Hello! After ten years together, it
keeps it spicy.

I mean, I think he'd prefer I picked him
up in the airport in, like, something

hot, maybe a different colored wig, but
he gets a pig or a shark or a frog

print, you know? Exactly what he wants.

Okay, so tell me your schedule for next
week, because we've been talking about

doing a 10 -year anniversary party, but
I was thinking the first big thing we

did together was going to that Indy race
in Long Beach.

That was the race when I set you up to
drive with Mario Andretti, and all you

wanted to do was see that guy from The
Bachelor.

It should have been your first clue. We
were not from the same generation.

So I looked, and this race in thermal is
a big deal, so it's...

10 years almost to the day that you and
I went to Long Beach. So I thought we'd

take all the ladies, take their
husbands.

But that thing I'm a little on the fence
about is this Britney woman I was

explaining to you. This is the woman
that brought one date to the party and

boyfriend showed up. Okay, I forgot I
did drop you that text, but there was

dates.

I mean, I know there's polygamy in Utah,
but that's... Not polygamy in Utah,

Todd. Did they do a threesome in the car
or what?

Only on the way home because we came
separate.

You never know.

So I am not going to be having her.
Cool.

Is that the right take you think on
that? Well, you have to have room for

more guys.

Right.

The other thing I'm a little on the
fence about is, you know, I told you

Heather and I have never really clicked.

So I'm on the fence. I think if I don't
invite her.

I don't know how that fixes whatever is
going on between us. It's just going to

make it worse.

It's a lot of work to get people to go
on that fabulous trip.

For you, ma 'am. Thank you so much. Oh,
it's perfect. Can I get another ice tea,

too? Please do, Sam, and then I'll have
another tea right out. Thank you. Here

you go, baby doll.

So you and I haven't even talked about
Gwen yet.

It's been a rollercoaster ride with her
in this. Look, I know you were upset

that this came up with Lisa.

I met with her yesterday.

I think there's regret and hurt there.

They've never done anything nice for
Gwendolyn, and these people are kind of

despicable human beings.

I know. I know. Todd is very protective
of Gwen and her feelings. He sees

himself as a father figure to her, and I
think he sees this as a potential

sandpit that feels too messy for him.

So as I've been trying to figure out how
to communicate with them and how to get

this set up, there were some weird...

messages that read really cold.

And Gwen got crazy upset by it, very
hurt.

I didn't like how they phrased certain
things about like if I was ready or not,

when I feel like I've always been ready,
you know, it was more on their side

that wasn't ready.

It's exactly what I was worried about,
which is a re -traumatization of what

happened forever ago.

And I had this realization as I'm going
through this with Gwen, I'm pretty

angry.

So, about everything that happened.

You deserve to be angry.

So does Gwen.

I know, but I don't want to tell her to
be angry just because I am.

She's not angry that I want her to get
along with them, you know? We've talked

about this enough.

You know how I feel about all of it.

So I'm done.

How are you?

I have a reservation for two under
Barlow.

Thank you.

I love it in here. It's so pretty. It's
so pretty.

Good afternoon.

How are you? Fantastic.

Have you two been in before? I have not.
I'm visiting. This is her first time.

She's in from Austin.

Denise is my younger sister.

I'm number three of six, and she's
number four of six. I love all of my

I just have a super soft spot for
Denise. She was my only sibling in Utah,

were like...

so involved in each other's lives. Can I
get a spicy margarita with Vita? Do you

want one too?

Yes, please. And then can we start with
Brussels sprouts and the charcuterie

plate? Yeah, of course. I'll get that
going. Thank you.

I miss it here. I miss the mountain. You
do? I miss New York.

Well, of course. Hold on.

It's John real quick. Hold on. Hey, I'm
just sitting at lunch with Denise. Let

me call you back on the way home, okay?

All right. Love you. Bye.

Is he okay?

No, we're codependent.

It's a problem.

I love that. I called him, what, like
six times on the way here?

Possibly. Possibly. Cheers.

Cheers. Thank you. This looks amazing.
Thank you.

But, I mean, I think, like, John and I
complement each other really well. We

were at a party, and...

You know, he just wanted to protect me
and he just wants to, like, make me feel

supported and loved. And, like, you
know, we have our morning routine where

drop Henry off at school and then we go
and get breakfast. And then we go to the

office and check in on everything.

How was Henry?

I think it's hard with Jack on.

Henry's not as social as Jack.

He had all of Jack's friends to, like,
hype him up. And they would include him

in everything. And I feel like he lost,
like, all of that.

It's, like, hard as a mom to seeing him,
like, mitigate things kind of like

alone i think what was really hard is
like around his birthday party he sent

like a last minute invite to kids and
they went to another kid's party instead

of his i know i was like and then he
like was so embarrassed

he's like i don't even want to go i
don't even want to go and like when we

driving there i was like in full -on
panic mode Then I have like this

guilt. I'm like, did I let him down?

Because hearing him so upset in the
backseat of the car, I like felt so bad

him. And I was like, girl, I'm okay. I
just like.

The one thing I dissect is how I am as a
mom. And I feel like mom tried to make

like our childhood magical, even though
it was like hard because she had six

very different kids. And so like, I try
to be like that with Henry.

You are. And it makes me so sad having a
friend call me a bad mom because it

must be like what she's always thought
about me.

That was truth serum for her.

You are an amazing mom.

I'm like such a baby.

I'm pissed.

I'm pissed off. I think that Lisa and
John owe my husband.

A major apology.

Do you think they think they owe him an
apology, or do you think they... Well,

John did text Justin, so we'll see.

I just got a text from John. He said,
hey, Justin, you and I should probably

talk things out about what went down the
other night.

I'm just going to be really direct back
to him and just say, sounds good.

Definitely want to talk things out.

to ask lisa a few clarifying questions
on what i had found out that's what i

wanted to hear is why you think it's
lisa we narrowed it down that it was

barlow i don't want to believe that she
would do this but i think when she gets

angry either this is how she gets
revenge lisa

hurts other people to make herself feel
better. I don't have that experience

with her.

I know, but that is what Bronwyn... I
know. I hear what you're saying. I'm not

saying I don't believe you. I hear you.
I hear both of you, and I'm sad that

that's what's happened.

I just can't say right now I've ever
seen that. She's going to treat you

differently because you have everything
that she wants.

Oh, I don't love that. I hope that's not
the case.

If you're throwing a glamorous party,
she'll be there.

I'm not questioning my friendship with
Lisa. Lisa has never been vindictive to

me. But you have to love Lisa for
exactly who she is.

Because she's not going to be anybody
different.

Well, speaking of parties, it was Todd
and I's anniversary this week too. Not

our wedding anniversary, but like when I
met Todd 10 years ago.

So I have a big surprise for everyone.

Next week, I want to invite everybody
and their husbands to go to Thermal, so

outside of Palm Springs, to the Indie
Race. Oh, my gosh. That's the same

We're all going to take our husbands.

We're staying in a house together.

It's amazing.

So we've got to talk. If Justin, John,
Lisa, Whitney can all be in the same

house.

Obviously, Brittany is not.

And I'm on the fence about Heather. I
think Heather stirs the pot and then

refuses to acknowledge what she does. I
think Heather and I could have been

friends. And you probably will someday.
And in the meantime, I think Heather is

losing out on relationships.

She's only fully supporting Lisa.

She's not trying to see both sides.

She's taking things I say when I think
it's in confidence, taking it to Lisa

without giving me the opportunity to
have that conversation with Lisa on my

So she is meddling.

And I know she knows I've been a good
friend.

So that's not fair to me.

Can

I ask

you a favor? Can you guys grab some of
these benches over here?

Let's do benches and chairs. Maybe set
up the chairs like right here.

Hi.

I'm Brittany's dad, Mort.

Oh, I'm Heather. It's so nice to meet
you.

I've been wanting to meet you.

I love Brittany.

We're having a big shindig here. A big
shindig?

Nice to meet you guys.

Yeah, this is part war, part family.
Okay, what is it? It's family night,

fireside. Okay, I wanted a name.

I led church groups like this.

Twice a week, my entire life.

It's a chance for Mormons to get
together outside of regular church

a more informal setting and share their
testimonies. Angie's coming, too. Oh,

good. Yay.

Come sit over here. Hi.

Big church party. It's probably been
five years since I've been to a fireside

any church activity like this,
surrounded by Mormons and without a bag

head.

I feel like I should stand up and help
you. Do you want to? Do you want to

conduct? Are you sure? It's like going
back to your first apartment.

I would never want to live there again,
but I can remember what it felt like,

and I can remember how happy I was when
I lived there.

Oh, my goodness!

I'm so happy you came! Thank you for the
invitation.

Oh, my gosh. Look at this.

Prayer night appropriate.

Yes. Yes, absolutely.

This is casual family night. Thank you.
I brought you a little bottle of wine.

You're so sweet. When we pray at church
on Sunday, we take communion.

Like, does she really not know? Come in.
Come in.

Mormons don't drink.

Newsflash.

Hi. To walk into Mormon family night
with a bottle of wine.

It's just so inappropriate.

Look, I've seen Brittany suckling down
wine at every event I've been with her.

know Mormons don't drink, but I know
Brittany does.

So it felt like the perfect hostess
gift.

No wine tonight, but... Okay, so
everyone's here. We're going to start.

such a huge group this month. Thank you
so much.

This is my mom's thing.

And as you, as almost all of you know,
my mom passed away last year. And so...

We're going to honor her in our lessons
tonight.

We're going to start with an opening
hymn, Come, Come, Ye Saints.

Okay. Dad?

Katrina, my precious angel, she died and
then I cried every day, day and night,

for two weeks.

Because we did everything together. We
ran our business together. We played

pickleball every day together.

And she won 60 % of the time.

It's like playing against a 75 -year
-old gazelle.

She's just...

I couldn't hit it where she couldn't get
it.

The reason I love love is because my
parents had the perfect fairytale

They dated for six days, got engaged,
were married three months later, and

happily married for 53 years. I want
that fairytale relationship, and I

the perfect guy is out there.

Thanks, Dad.

Thanks, you guys.

There's plenty of treats, so let's mix
and mingle and let's eat.

Thank you so much for coming.

I would not miss this.

How was that? It was beautiful. Was that
just like you remember?

It's been a minute since I've been
surrounded by Mormons. I loved every

of it. I have stuff to tell you guys.

Ron would invite me to her house
tomorrow.

I actually feel like she wants to be
friends with Heather because I'm getting

know her.

So do you feel like you're getting
schmoozed by her?

I mean, to be truthful, my experience
with her is different. I thought she was

very direct.

You think you made a comment about
Lisa's parents to Heather?

She brought that information directly to
me from Lisa to me.

But what she was saying is that you
should have come to me and not taken my

information. I did come to you. I gasped
when you said it. And I said, don't mom

shame Lisa, that electronic wasn't mom
shaming her.

My daughter does need me. She's a
present mother. Like I don't let her sit

in game till two in the morning.

So I can like leave the computer as a
babysitter.

I never said anything about her being a
bad parent. I never said anything about

her parenting style.

All I said was exactly what you said.

Who told you I took it to her like that?

Bronwyn said she was crying.

Well, she cried to me. Bronwyn doesn't
know.

Bronwyn wasn't there.

Let me ask you this. How do you think I
felt when she said that about me? Like,

where was the support from me? What do
you mean? You're sitting here watching

her call me a bitch and tell me to...

I don't give a fuck what you do!

Don't do that to me! You fucking bitch!
Don't do that! I'm fucking mad right

now! Are you telling her? You've kind of
been a shitty friend to Angie, too.

Like, maybe she needs to hear that from
you.

I've known Heather since I was 15, and
she has always wanted to sit at the cool

kids' table.

And she'll do anything to be at that
table, even if it means sometimes taking

for the wrong person.

I've seen you do this before.

With someone.

With friends.

What are you trying to get at? I've seen
you report people whether they're right

or wrong. What? Who are you talking
about?

Jen? Yeah.

I've seen you do this before. I've seen
you report people whether they're right

or wrong. What? Who are you talking
about?

Jen? Yeah.

This feels like a low blow.

And that hurts my feelings.

I think I have a very cloudy past with
being blindly loyal to my church, to my

friends. What's wrong?

I don't know how this happened.

But this is not what's happening right
now. This is about the problem in Lisa

and Angie's friendship, which is exactly
why I told Lisa in the first place. To

make it about me and my loyalty is to
miss the mark.

But I'll let you know when I wake up
with a black eye.

I feel like you are in this place where
you want to prove your loyalty to Lisa.

Absolutely. I don't even know that she
deserves this much support from you.

Seriously. Well, tell me more so I can
understand your side.

I've seen you guys in the past. We've
moved on, and Bermuda changed a lot for

and her, and she's been a good friend to
me, and I'm going to support that. And

I've been a good friend to you, and
you're not treating me the same.

Why aren't you treating me the same?

Because I think I am. But you're not
holding her to the same standard that

you're holding me to.

Okay, well, that's food for thought. I
had never considered that. Yeah. This is

the first time you've communicated this
to me, and this is making me think and

take pause. I love you. I respect you. I
want you to feel supported by me, and I

don't think that you should question my
loyalty just because I'm a loyal friend

to her, too.

I feel bad that you guys are in the
place you're at, but you can fix it.

She can fix it, too. She has stuff she's
got to do, too, I'm sure. We all do.

Yep, I see who I'm meeting. Perfect.
Thank you.

How you doing, man?

I'm all right.

I, uh... You know... Do you want

to... Should we get any appetizers?

I heard someone talking about the
smashed potatoes, so I think we

need to get the smashed potatoes. All
right.

How you doing, gentlemen? Doing great,
thanks.

Get a chance to look over the menus? We
definitely want the smashed potatoes.

Can I do it old -fashioned?

Sure. Yeah, that'd be great.

Make that two.

That's a good start.

Before we go any further, obviously we
have different perspectives

on it. Yeah. If you'll hear me out, I
can hear you out.

I definitely want to understand what
provoked that.

the fact that that went down the way it
did and one it surprised me i think

which part surprised you um the conflict
itself like when lisa came directly at

me yeah and i like obviously i'm going
to defend my wife like i didn't feel

what she was saying was appropriate in
any sense more or less like the whole

party heard that and i'm obviously going
to respond

What scared me, I guess, is the way to
put it is you got angry fast and you

a step towards Lisa.

If I were to take a step towards
Whitney, I guarantee you'd be like,

you got to stop.

Yeah.

Well, if I give you the fact that maybe
you thought I was approaching Lisa.

How did it happen the second time?
Because the second time, it was a lean

and it was just a simple, what is she
lying about?

Why do you keep calling her a liar,
though? Because she's lying about it.

No, she's not.

John,

John, John.

I apologize for doing that.

It was a snap reaction, kind of still
from what had happened before, and just

trying to get...

Any type of separation.

All right, gentlemen.

Got the mashed potatoes. That is
awesome. Thank you. And house fries.

Enjoy. Appreciate it.

But, so, do you feel like you're in a
position where you should apologize to

Lisa?

Wow.

I'm just saying.

I think Lisa would like an apology, and
I feel like she deserves an apology

because it felt more aggressive than it
should have been.

Yeah, I'll have to think about that one
for sure.

Obviously, I'm a little caught off
guard. I don't feel like my reaction was

anything different than what we see from
her all the time. So I don't feel like

an apology is something that I want to
do right now.

Let's go set the tap, huh?

Okay.

This is not for dogs.

Hi.

Come on in.

Thank you. Are you okay with dogs?

Yes. I have tons, but I only have the
nice two out today. Don't you have like

eight? I have six.

Thank you for inviting me over. Yeah, of
course. I'm glad you could come.

Thanks. Hi. Good to see you. Good to see
you, too. I love the earrings.

So festive.

Thank you. I think I have a lot of blame
thus far. Heather has not seen a well

-rounded version of me. Here, you want
to just put your coat here? But I think

Heather's very funny. I think she's very
smart and very witty. And I think we

don't get along because we're a little
bit similar.

I'm really surprised that Bronwyn
invited me to come over.

I can only assume that she wants to
apologize and make amends for the way

she's been behaving.

Because she's kind of been an asshole.

We bought this house like two years ago
and we're still remodeling. I love it.

This is like your front entrance. This
is all the Salt Lake Valley. That's

incredible. Mostly just the U and the
mountains.

Nothing is done. I don't even have any
art on the walls hardly, but you can

see. You'll be the first one to get a
peek at it. I want to see everything.

Um, if Mary's house reminded me of
Whoville... Wow, this is fantastic.

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Bronwyn's house reminds me of the Pound
Puppy's Palace.

I want to keep eye contact, but I also
want to be careful where I step.

I wanted hot pink, but it's this color
now.

It's beautiful. It's beautiful.

Might I suggest next time that the first
person you have see your home be the

Pooper Scoopers.

This is your kitchen. Very cool. Do you
cook a lot? I don't cook. What are these

mugs? So Todd collects them everywhere
Todd travels. He's on his way to Korea

right now. He buys the mugs? He buys the
Starbucks mug. We have boxes and boxes

and boxes of these Starbucks.

Oh, my gosh. What a fun little thing to
cook.

And then Gwen started collecting the
little espresso ones.

All right, come on. Come sit down. Let's
chat.

Snacks? Oh, I'm so happy.

I don't cook, but I can put, you know,
pre -made snacks on a plate.

Come on, Claire.

I'm a sucker for a crumb crust.

I'm glad you wanted to come over. I
wasn't sure you were going to say yes.

No, I wasn't surprised you invited me
because it seems like you don't like me

very much.

I wasn't surprised you invited me
because it seems like you don't like me

much. I was surprised you wanted to come
because it seems like you don't like me

very much either.

Look, I can say I'm sorry that it's
gone.

And it didn't go the way I wanted with
you.

What didn't go the way you wanted? I
think we chatted very little at Lisa's

event when I first kind of got to know
you. And then we got together a couple

days after and talked about the event.

The whole, like, do you want to see a
healed Whitney?

I was like, do we practice this in the
mirror at home?

And I left thinking, like, you and I
were having fun. I thought we were

about everybody. I didn't know them
super well.

I thought you were telling Whitney
things that I'd said to you maybe in a

different tone than I'd said them. So
when I heard that you and Angie were

talking about Lisa, sure, of course, I
was messy and I told Angie.

So that's not a great way to handle that
either. So I can apologize for those

kind of things.

I thought if Heather thinks she can tell
everybody what I said with her stank on

top of it, then I can tell Angie exactly
what was said.

That, by definition, is messy.

I know you feel that way. So I said, I
can apologize. It comes across messy. It

comes across messy or is messy.

If for us to move forward, I have to say
it was messy, I will own that it was

messy. You don't have to say anything
you don't want to say for us to move

forward. I want to because I'd want us
to move forward. But this is not the end

of it. Because I have not yet heard you
say one time you were messy, you were

inappropriate, you were too far.

From meeting Heather.

She has been telling people that I am
vicious and two -faced. So I am happy to

be her fallible friend and apologize for
my part in this. But I need to know

that Heather at least understands that
she has been a part of what's wrong

between the two of us. I mean, you are a
saint. You are better than me. You

understand everything.

You don't ever talk to people.

You're never messy. No, that's not fair,
Heather.

I don't feel like any of this is
genuine.

I don't understand why you even invited
me over.

Okay, I'll be honest with you. I invited
you over because I am inviting

everybody on a trip this weekend, and I
don't know that you and I are in a place

for you to come, but I think if I don't
invite you, that that is going to cause

a huge issue, and you and I will never
move past it. So you're planning a trip,

and I'm here to sing for my supper and
earn an invite?

Heather, I think you want to feel that
way about me. At this point, you're

saying I'm very confused.

I thought you wanted me to come over so
you could apologize for the things

you've done. Why do you think you should
come over and I should apologize and

you should take no responsibility for
any of what's gone on between the two of

us? That's really what you thought was
going to happen when you came over.

I wasn't sure what was going to happen.

Because you're pretty unpredictable.

I think you say different things to
different people. And I didn't know what

were going to say to me in this moment.

And I don't know if it's what you say
about me behind my back.

because I've seen how you talk about
people behind their back, and that makes

very terrified that that's probably how
you talk about me behind my back, too.

And you do have a skewering humor.

You also have a skewering humor, and you
have come very hard for me. I am not a

good friend. I am terrifying.

My husband was stupid not to have a
prenup with me. You are putting words in

mouth. No, Heather, those are all words
you have said.

I think it is stupid for anyone to not
have a prenup. Marriage is a financial

transaction, and you and I both know
this.

No way, shape, or form was that a
friendly comment.

I could apologize for asking about the
prenup. I don't give two shits about the

prenup. But this was just her trying to
find a reason to not include me on the

trip. She's not only shown me her shitty
house, she's shown me her shitty

intentions. And I don't really care for
either of them.

Not me, Heather. Why do you want to
mince words with me? I'm not mincing

I'm repeating exactly as I said it. I
feel exhausted.

I'm sure you do. I feel exhausted
because you are trying to keep up this

And I want to leave.

I appreciate the invite for having me
over.

Your home is lovely.

I feel exhausted and sick to my stomach.
This is not like the type of friendship

I want to have.

Okay. And I'm glad that you have so many
new friends to supplement.

I am truly hurt by this because I was
willing to take responsibility. I was

willing to apologize sincerely.

To not be able to say anything that
you've done in this is truly lacking

-awareness. I'll work on my self
-awareness. I appreciate the tip.

Okay. I'm not giving Heather a phony
version of me, but I did think about

the best version of me that could show
up in this conversation was. And if

that's not good enough for Heather, that
taps into one of my most serious fears,

is that the very best of me is not good
enough for someone else.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City.

Thank you guys for having us.

Bronwyn, oh my God.

What is your husband's favorite facial
position?

I don't want to write it.

Meredith, I didn't say anything about
Brooke. You did.

And I'll double down on it. Brooke,
biatch.

I felt very uneasy. Oh, yes, I'm sure
you felt so uneasy. Like I felt when

husband's like...

To me.

You're so crazy. When it's me and
somebody else, it's my responsibility to

out. But if I'm with someone else, my
ass better ride your dick like it's my

job, Lisa.

What did Todd just say to you? He just
said Bronwyn's real upset and he wants

to go.