All language subtitles for The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City – S5E5

I don't think you've been a good friend
to me lately. Go hang out with

everybody. I'm here.

Where were you this morning? Call
Electra. Wait, isn't that what you do?

on, it's Electra.

Meredith said that people are talking
about prism. That is stuff.

I'm not sitting here trying to figure
out your business. I'm worrying about my

own. Well, you're certainly talking
about it.

Okay, baby, I got your food.

Henry, what are you doing?

Playing video games.

Oh my gosh, you're in your gaming room?

Yeah. Hey, come get food. I got what you
wanted. Are you hungry?

For real. Are you hungry?

No, not really.

Enough with the gaming.

Eloheinu Adonai Echad.

Awesome.

Well done.

Okay. So what I'll do is I'll send you
all of the prayers with the translation

and the transliteration so that we can
also discuss what they mean. Well, I

don't sing in public, so this is going
to be very interesting.

Well, God will totally understand. Guide
me on the voice.

For sure.

Hi. How's it going?

Good. Oh, my gosh. I'm happy to see you,
too. Are you guys ready? I can bring

you back whenever you guys are ready.
Yes. I'm ready.

We've had a rough week. Yeah. We have
quite a bit to catch up on.

I've been thinking about you all
weekend. I know. I know. I know. I know.

you held up the phone and I saw this
picture, I could have never imagined

like, his family is Gwen's family. Yeah.

Lisa. Gwen and I are sitting at the
airport.

We had a connecting flight back from
Milwaukee and she said something to me

I made a face because I think I'm
hilarious.

And she goes, oh my God, you look like
Gwen.

And I said, no, I don't. And I opened my
phone and I have this picture of Gwen's

dad. And I said, she looks just like her
dad. No one ever thinks she looks like

me. She pulls out a picture and I
literally am like, I know him.

And she's like, you know Gwen's dad? And
I'm like, oh my gosh, I know his

parents. Well, are you okay?

I mean, it's a lot. It's super
complicated.

I got pregnant with Gwen when I was 19,
turning 20.

And her biological father was not
involved and then passed away shortly

when she was turning two.

I didn't ever connect the dots.

That's intentional on my behalf.

I'm careful even still with Gwen because
it's not for me and my feelings and my

experience to taint hers. What happened?

It was my second year at BYU. I was 18.

I found out I was pregnant. And so he
and I went to his parents' house and

them. I literally can't imagine.

It wasn't a pleasant conversation with
them.

His family lives in a very small town,
and I would say probably everybody in

that town is Mormon. His family
absolutely is.

So they were very shocked by this
information.

I took a fair amount of the blame that
night. Yeah. Which is words I won't

repeat, but you know what the
connotation is, right? Yep.

They were not supportive. I can just say
that.

But it was a conversation that deeply
hurt me.

Very quickly, the conversation shifted
to...

That I was awful and damaged and
disgraced and shameful.

I think what they would have preferred
is if I'd like said I was doing a study

abroad and went and just quietly had my
pregnancy and had the baby adopted.

Did they come right out and say that?

I left there knowing I was going to do
this by myself.

Wow. I was very clear on that. Wow.

How did he feel?

I think he had decided it wasn't
something he was going to be a part of.

moved home.

How did your family handle it?

They were not jazzed about it either.

My dad was the recorder at the temple in
Oakland at the time, which is also not

a position you want to be welcoming home
your single pregnant child, right? It's

a lot.

It's embarrassing for my family. It was
never embarrassing for me. I just

didn't, I frankly didn't have time to be
embarrassed about it.

But, I mean, like, Bronwyn, this is so
much on a young 19 -year -old girl. It

very much strained my relationship with
my mom for a long time afterwards, a

long time.

It is a total mind to think this is the
best thing I've ever done, and so

many people thought it was the worst
thing I've ever done.

And I didn't know what was going to
happen with her dad.

But I thought there is no way that this
person can know I have a child somewhere

and someday not come for her, right?

Someday to not register.

No, my dad called Gwen's dad and her,

I guess, grandparents and still waiting
for a phone call back.

She's going to be 18 in a couple months,
you know.

And when Gwen was like 18 months or two
at the time, I found out on Facebook I

saw someone had commented on an obituary
with a

picture of Gwen's dad on it.

I just, my heart breaks for all of you.

I was with Gwen's dad's family after he
passed, and

I know how devastating it is from their
side.

And then to hear it from Bronwyn's side,
I mean, it's breaking my heart all over

again for everybody.

I am having a hard time, Lisa. I'm
having a hard time reconciling this

family that you know with the family
that has not made time in 18 years to

get to know my child. You know, I know
that there's pain on both sides.

Yeah, of course.

And like I met with yesterday.

Gwen's grandmother.

I told her exactly what happened in the
airport. And I said, what are the

chances? And she's like, it's time.

I think there's regret and hurt there.

And they were like, we want to be a part
of Gwen's life. If she wants to be a

part of our life, we really want it.

Gwen wants to know about her dad, and I
think that that is a very natural

curiosity, and she should know
everything that she wants to about him.

I told her this came up. I think she was
very surprised by it, so we kind of

eased into that conversation.

So I don't know where it goes. I want it
to go somewhere wonderful for her. I

really do.

Same. But it is going to physically pain
me to watch her be close with them. It

will. It will.

Mm -hmm.

Yeah.

What kind of dance move was that?

Okay, get your stuff. Let's go.

Okay, here we go.

You got it. You got it.

I'll take up the rear.

Like a little duckling.

Oh, my God. Okay, all right.

Okay.

Oh, God.

Oh, my gosh.

Look at that.

I like that. It's cute.

The cousins.

The cousins and me.

Speaking of videos. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Has she seen it?

No. She sent me a video the night she
got back from Milwaukee.

You won't believe it. Brittany did? Yes.

Press play.

I just walked in from Milwaukee, and
this is sitting on my desk.

There's four dozen roses from my
favorite florist.

beautiful card from jared he wants to
meet up with me obviously he's sending

flowers he's writing me love notes no so
are you considering meeting up with him

i'm thinking about it i do feel like he
deserves closure and the way that the

snarky text that i sent i feel like i
owe it to him to hear him out i know

that you won't love but it's getting a
little complicated

Because one minute we're all pro -Jared.
Not everyone was pro -Jared, I'll tell

you that.

Lisa was so anti -Jared. It really
affected what I did, and maybe it was

best. But then I just think he's way too
invested in my personal life. I felt a

little bit bothered by that, you know?

I'm really upset and hurt by Lisa right
now.

Why? She gave me the biggest F -you
ever.

After we got home from our trip, Charles
from the Kin called me.

The staff came to me and said that they
found a little box. It was a real cream

-colored box with a gold necklace. Does
it say Prism on the box?

Yes. What room was it in?

406. At Lisa Barlow's?

No. Mm -hmm.

Here's the thing. You know, I was going
hard for Meredith that night. Why are

you talking about my business?

But Lisa told Meredith about it.

What?

Lisa's who told Meredith about it.

Lisa told Meredith. Lisa told Meredith.
Meredith told me. I told you.

But, like, it's more than the business
stuff. It feels like you're taking it

really personally.

Because I feel like it is personal.

This is my business, my brand, and it's
not just something that popped up.

Yeah. I feel like this was planted.

By who? By Lisa?

After I got that call from Charles at
the Kin, I started thinking, Lisa is

vindictive. She must still be mad at me
over the podcast.

Lisa's always been the villain.

Because why else would she toss the
necklace I gifted her into the trash?

If Lisa's the one who brought it up.

That is really hurtful, Whitney. And now
hearing that Lisa started this rumor

and not Meredith, I think I have this
wrong.

You need to get to the bottom of that. I
need to get to the bottom of all of it.

Robert. Robert.

You good, babe?

Mm -hmm. Did you eat?

No, I haven't eaten yet.

I'm getting ready to go to a dance
class.

Um, you think I can get you a little
money?

For what?

It's used for good purposes, right?

Like, you know, your body's like a
plant.

And if you don't water a plant, if you
don't feed a plant, what happens to it?

It dies.

We don't want that.

I do support Robert.

But I also want him to get a job. I want
him to be responsible.

I want him to be disciplined.

But right now, he's just not in a good
space to be working because I just feel

like he won't be focused, the attention
span will be bad, and he won't perform.

It has a lot to do with his lifestyle.

Okay, I'm about to go back to my job.

Love you.

Love you too, babe.

Your charity awaits, my lady.

Okay, here I come. Okay, see you in a
minute.

Hi, how are you? Good. My pants are so
tight, I gotta find a way to maneuver.

It smells like onions in here. Does it?
Oh, God, you hate onions. Did you have

onions? I do. No, I didn't have onions.

Welcome, welcome to class, y 'all.

We're gonna start with a bounce because
we are doing some hip -hop.

Yeah, step in here, step in there.

It's so good to see you. It's so good to
see you. This is going to be so fun.

Well, this really shows very nice level
of expertise in the dance department. We

are in a dance class with Georgia Gay,
who is a teenager.

You're going to have to help me. Okay,
I'll help you. Like I'm your mom.

I'd like to think I'm a younger version
of Jennifer Grey, but I don't even think

these kids are old enough to watch Dirty
Dancing.

Go in, go out, single, single, double,
double.

Heather, it should be for two for the
salt cave.

Yep. Perfect. Thank you.

Hi.

Hey, how are you?

Good to see you.

Are you ready for the salt cave?

Yeah, I probably need it. I can take you
guys back.

Can you tell us about it, too? Like,
this is so cool. I didn't even know we

this here. A little zen.

So the room is made out of 16 tons of
Himalayan salt.

What do you mean? This brick? That's all
the brick. It's all salt. Who even

thinks this up? When you're surrounded
by this much salt, there's a negative

healing effect that happens in your
body. So it's super grounding and

just to be sitting in this room. May I
get some tea?

Go put some hot water on. Thank you. I
would love a tea, too.

I'm scared to get in it. Oh, it's
chilly.

It feels good. It's cold?

Yeah, it's cold. Oh, my gosh.

This is much different than the Costco
Himalayan sea salt that I buy in bulk.

It feels so good. Here's a tea for you,
lady.

Thank you. Be careful not to spill it on
the salt because it will dissolve it.

Oh, my gosh. Thank you.

Is it burning? Hot? Burning?

Burning? Burning hot. Oh, my gosh. Let
it chill. Let it chill.

I have no more taste buds on my tongue.

Jam it out.

Jam it out. Jam it out. Thank you guys
again for coming through.

Do you want to cool off for a minute? I
feel like we haven't talked since the

trip. I don't know if you had fun. I had
fun. I had a lot of fun. I loved the

trip. But I left there just really
emotional.

Well, we did have a little blowout. My
exchange with Lisa was so bad.

Saying that like...

Oh, I say I've got to go to take care of
my daughter. That's when the

conversation starts at lunch, and it's
now dinner time. I mean, I'm a committed

mother. I'm home for my daughter. I'm
there for my daughter because my mom

wasn't there for me. And for her to
bring that up, that was like, that was

Lisa's had a problem with every single
one of her friends. She had a problem

with Jen, Heather, Meredith, Whitney,
Angie H., Monica, Mary, and now me.

There's a reason no one can keep Lisa
happy.

She's impossible.

Mary, we were like sisters. We talked
multiple times a day. And now I don't

from her anymore. And Heather's telling
me it's because of me.

What? Heather's blaming me that I pulled
away or I'm not calling Lisa as much.

She's totally siding with Lisa.

How do you feel after the trip? I
haven't recovered yet, you know? The

Museum was so weird, you know? I feel
like Angie is changing the terms of your

friendship. Like, I feel like she's
challenging you unnecessarily.

You don't like that I'm not just doing
whatever you want me to do. I don't give

a f*** what you're doing!

Don't do that to me! You f***ing bitch!
Don't do that! I'm f***ing pissed at

you!

Thank you. I feel that too. I don't like
the way she's treating you.

And I don't like some of the things
like.

It feels shitty. I'll tell you that
much. It feels really shitty.

It feels shitty too. Like she was upset.
I mean, after Harley Davidson, we

talked the next morning and she like
threw out some jabs. Like what?

She was being mean. She said, my
daughter needs me. Like she's just not

room playing video games.

I think the biggest thing that hit me
last night was Lisa saying that I'm not

good friend.

And then for her to bring up that I hang
up with her because I use, oh, I've got

to go. Electra needs me. My daughter
does need me. She's a present mother.

I don't let her sit. No, I mean, we hang
out all the time.

So I can, like, leave the computer as a
king babysitter.

Oh. Oh, wow.

She's talking about my parenting? I'm
like a great mom.

What is she talking about? It felt like
a dig. Yeah, that sounds like a big dig.

That Electra requires more than Henry,
and you don't understand that, and she

can't take time away from Electra to be
your friend.

You know what? If I'm a mom, my kids are
doing pretty good for having this

mother.

I think I could have gone my whole life
and never told Lisa what Angie said, but

I thought what Angie said was mean and
was not indicative of the way that I've

known Angie to feel about Lisa, and it
just felt like something Lisa should

know.

She can take the Mother of the Year
award.

That's a low blow.

Like, I am actually really mad right
now.

I am constantly criticized by people
that don't even know me about how I am

mother because I'm a public figure. So
to have someone that you consider to be

close friend judge you for how you are
as a mom is like the worst cut.

I do everything for my kids, with my
kids. For her to say that is so f***ing

rude.

I think you need to get to the root of
it with Angie. Like, what is her issue

with you? It's not just personality
critiques or friendship critiques. Like,

she's coming after you, and I don't know
why.

Neither do I.

Neither do I.

You ready to go to soccer?

Always.

Has anyone noticed that I gained about
seven new piercings in my earlobe? What

are you doing with your ear?

I want my second piercing.

Can you take me to get my second
piercing?

Let's set a goal, and if you meet the
goal, you can get a second piercing. You

said I could get a second piercing
already.

Remember? Yeah. I get that she's 14 and
she's growing up. Okay, have fun at

soccer, man. Love you. All of her
friends have piercings, but it's like

wholesomeness and the virtue of being a
little kid.

I think I'm just trying to, like, hold
on to that as long as I can.

I still can't believe that we moved into
a home that has a view of a temple from

both of the windows.

Hello. Hey, but it raises your property
value. That's what they say.

Oh, it's Adam.

Hello?

Hey. Hey, how's it going?

Oh, my God. So, I was calling you
because I didn't realize that it was

that you're close to who is putting this
information out?

Adam is a casual friend of mine who is
also a podcaster, and he is friends with

the person that runs the account that
posted that Prism's jewelry comes from

Alibaba. So I asked Adam to reach out to
the account to see if he could find out

who fed the story, because I have my
suspicions, but I need the proof.

Just tell me, what was your
conversation?

Because this is my business, my brand,
my reputation.

I was trying to do my best to figure out
who this person was, right? And they

said, it's definitely somebody in your
group.

And I said, can you tell me who it is?
They said, well, I can't tell you who it

is, but you can ask me questions.

And I said, does this person have a
jewelry brand?

They said, no.

I said, does this person have a beauty
brand?

They said.

No. And then I said, does this person
have a liquor brand? And they said, yes.

And I was like, oh, my God.

No one in my friend group has a liquor
brand besides Lisa Barlow.

Right. Like, catching Lisa in this,
especially after the outrage at Reality

Teese. Let me just process this for a
minute, and then I'll reach back out to

you. Talk to you soon. Okay, take care.

Bye. On one hand, it's validating, but
at the same time, I really didn't want

to be true because it means I have a
friendship that potentially was never

in the first place.

Please, babe.

Well, hey.

You guys already here?

Yeah.

Right there for you.

Thank you.

Hi, how are you? Can I have a hug?

Yeah, yeah. How are

you?

Great. How are you?

I'm nervous.

Why are you nervous? I just... I make
you nervous?

No, I'm just... I'm just nervous. I know
that when I get in front of Jared, he's

very convincing, I would say even
manipulative, and I have a really hard

standing my ground and staying broken
up.

Good to see you, though.

It's been my pattern over and over.

Is it okay if I take your food order
right now?

Let's just do a charcuterie board.

Yeah, let's kind of go from there. I
appreciate that.

But he's been asking, asking to have
some closure.

I feel like I owe him that.

You look beautiful.

Thank you.

I've missed you.

I've missed you, too. Yeah, it's a tough
transition, to be honest. Yeah. I

didn't see it coming.

What makes this different than every
other breakup?

You went to Milwaukee, and when you
left, I thought it was all sunshine and

roses.

And right before the game, you sent me a
little video, and you said, Hey, I'll

call you when the game's over, babe.

Yeah.

Next day rolls around.

Ghosted me.

And then, that second night, I get a
FaceTime call on your phone. And I'm

oh, finally.

Oh, good. I have a chance to resolve it.

And it's Lisa Barlow. And she's been
reading my text messages.

What the hell, Britt?

On the way home from the drag bar, Lisa
grabs my phone and starts messaging

Jared really mean things.

And she FaceTimed him and then started
singing to him some kind of song about

besties and yada yada because Jared
called me his best friend and she

that was ridiculous.

This is what I have a real problem with.

Private conversations between people
that love each other are private.

In the moment, I felt appreciative of
Lisa because I feel like she's got good

intentions and I like that she's looking
out for me. But in hindsight, it was

terrible to let Lisa do that.

Our life should be private. It's okay to
have a public side, a public persona.

You wanted it private, but I don't
necessarily want it private. I just want

be how we are to everybody.

When we're out, I hold your hand.

When we're together, I've kissed you in
public. Why is that even an issue,

though? Do you take any accountability
for me not feeling safe?

Feeling safe?

Yeah.

He doesn't ever post about me on social
media.

He won't get off the dating app.

And when we walk by a cute girl, he'll
drop my hand.

The most important part of a
relationship. It's the part that makes

like you're in a relationship.

And that part is not there.

Jared, you are my best friend.

But are you willing to make me feel safe
and do the things that are

uncomfortable for you to make me feel
safe?

And I don't have to be so confused all
the time.

I've shown up every day for you,
Brittany.

And it's not enough.

I've given you everything I can.

That's the answer to my question. You've
given me everything you can.

Okay, and it's not enough, Brittany. So
that's a no.

Okay.

That's a no.

I'm a really good guy, Brittany. It's
okay.

I don't want to lose the relationship.

But you and I just don't understand each
other.

Let's just put a pin in it.

Okay.

Hello.

Hi. I haven't seen you for a few days. I
know.

I got cookies. Okay. So I got myself the
Lucky Charms one. Do you want

chocolate? No. You want a chocolate
chip? Yeah. Okay.

I'm glad you're back.

Gwen's been with my mom and dad in San
Francisco for a couple days.

As soon as I came back from Milwaukee,
Gwen and I talked.

This isn't something I could kind of
keep to myself. I wanted to tell her

away. And I wanted her to have some time
not with me so that she could have some

space to think about it.

She's pretty so heavy.

I know. She's got kids in her house.

Let's go. Come on.

Also, it was really important for me to
have some space to center back on the

mom that I want to be to Gwen in this
scenario.

Come up here, girl.

Come on, sweet girl.

I don't even know what to say, Gwen. It
was so bizarre in the airport, sitting

there chatting with Lisa.

Yeah. When I told Todd, he was like,
I've never even seen a picture of Gwen's

dad. I can't believe you just whipped a
picture out and showed Lisa. I wasn't

thinking. Obviously, I didn't know they
knew each other.

And then that spiraled out of control.
She's good friends with him. Yeah, that

was the last thing I expected to hear
you say when you came back from your

Yeah. I didn't even know how to tell
you. Yeah. And then I talked to Lisa,

know that they were excited in that
conversation to meet you.

I mean, when they said that they were
excited to see me and they wanted to

me and, like, This was, like, meant to
be, like, whatever. I was like, oh, wow,

like, maybe I, maybe, like, I was right.
Like, they are going, they are excited.

They do want to meet me, like, you know
what I mean? But it doesn't really feel

like that now, you know?

I know since they expressed interest in
getting to know you, the communication

between us has been a little rough with
them. Yeah. I mean, I felt like it was a

little cold and, like, I didn't like how
they phrased certain things about,

like, if I was ready or not.

When I feel like I've always been ready,
like, that wasn't me. That wasn't ever

ready, you know? It was more on their
side that wasn't ready.

They didn't really seem, like, excited
or, like, ready to take the opportunity.

It was kind of like,

well, I mean, I guess we will meet you.
Like, it wasn't very loving, I feel

like. Hmm.

I understand that.

After Lisa and I made this connection,
Gwen wanted to meet them. She was super

excited about it. And then we get a text
from Gwen's grandmother.

that says they are looking forward to
meeting Gwen, but only if Gwen is in a

place in her life where she's ready to
accept them.

And that turned her off.

But even after the text, I know Gwen
wants them so badly to want her.

I feel like they had almost 18 years to
reach out.

I mean, they woke up every day and chose
not to for 18 years.

This isn't just the first chance that
they've gotten, and I feel like...

They've made how they feel pretty clear.

And I want to be really clear that I
don't disagree with what you're saying.

I think your curiosity is about your
dad.

And I think it's about putting together
the pieces of who you are and who you've

come from.

I just think like, it's weird. I've
never, like I've seen one photo of him

four times. Like that's not normal.

Yeah. It's the only picture I have.

I know. So that's the only picture I can
show you. But like, that's just weird.

I just want to feel like I know
something about him.

I want something, like, tangible that I
can be like, this is my dad. You know

what I mean? And not have to, like, have
nothing, you know?

But, like, I can't do that unless I meet
them or have a relationship with them

because they're the people that, like,
know him best, you know?

I really thought when you were born that
if you didn't ever want anything, if I

was like a perfect parent, that you
wouldn't miss something you didn't have.

I kept saying to myself, it's not like
he was here and then left. He was never

here. It was always just you and I,
right?

It was more than enough for me.

And so I felt like maybe I could figure
out a way to make that enough for you.

And I don't think that was fair to you,
Gwen.

Of course you're going to feel an
absence. Of course you're going to feel

I don't know, a whole half of me, right?

Gwen is the only individual in this
scenario who didn't make any choices.

And she is the only one in this scenario
who feels the weight of all of the

choices everyone else made for her.

And that is something that will keep me
up at night.

That will bother me.

You deserve to hear about your dad from
his family, who loved him, who knew him,

who has all the information for you.

Mm -hmm.

I don't want to push you into it.

That's why I'm so conflicted, because I
don't like the way that it's happening,

but also I don't want to be disappointed
in myself that I didn't take the

opportunity later on. I know.

I know.

Welcome.

You guys excited?

Yeah, I'm excited. I'm scared. It feels
windy.

Hey, girls.

Hi. Hi.

Oh, my gosh. A shiver of heroes welcome.

Welcome. Hey, Mary.

Hello. I've lived in Utah for a long
time. I feel like I've done every single

recreational activity that is available.

But I have never gone zip lining until
today.

Put these on like a pair of shorts.

I like a snug harness.

I thought, who are the three people that
I could actually convince to go

ziplining with me? Come on over here.
Let's get some gloves. Oh, we need

I came up with Mary Cosby, the great
outdoorsman.

Oh, my gosh.

Watch your hair. Watch your hair.

Britney, up for anything?

Oh, my gosh.

And Lisa likes everything Barlow. Why do
we have to bond over, like, near -death

experiences? Every time we're together.

Everybody jump in here. We're going to
take you in this can and up to the top.

Oh, Lord, this hasn't had a bath in 10
years.

Do you think we're going to get muddy?

Oh, my God.

Crazy.

Good job.

Good job.

Why did I wear white?

What was I thinking?

I ate it. I ate dirt. Got like chunks on
your lips.

At least I don't have mud all over my
teeth like Heather does.

Oh, I can't do it. I can't do it. I
can't do it. Just use your muscle mass.

Here we go.

Send you guys down at the same time.

Ready? I'm scared. I'm scared.

I'm scared.

I can't watch.

You guys count down.

3, 2, 1, go!

Go!

Oh, my God!

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Woo! Woo!

Yay!

Oh, great, great, great.

You are great, Mary. Good job.

Thank you, Brittany. Did you like it?
Did you have fun? I loved it.

Every time I get a chance to zip line, I
do it. I love it.

I've ziplined in Jamaica.

I've ziplined on a Disney cruise. It
just feels liberating and it's fun.

Harvey, we live.

That was amazing.

Thank you. Thank you so much. That was
great.

We're going to set up a little lunch
right here.

Oh my gosh, charcuterie. I love it. I
got a table and chairs.

This is what we're eating? Like we're
really roughing it today. Why are they

pulling everything out of the trunk?

Oh, and we have China.

All right, let me down.

Mary, how often do you tailgate?

Tailgate?

What is that?

You mean like when we cook our food?
When we have like our ribs and our

and stuff?

I brought something for you as a gift.

That is for you to remember that you're
a strong, magical unicorn. I know you

like unicorns.

Yes, yes.

It's an asterisk. No, I think it's a
jewelry thing. Oh, it is. But when she

back from Milwaukee, Jared sent her like
four dozen roses and a giant stuffed

unicorn. Yeah. But she broke up with him
and wanted closure. And so I wanted to

remind you that you might be alone, but
you're strong.

Yeah. And how did the closure meeting
go?

Wait, did you meet up to break up? Well,
yeah.

I don't want to talk about it. I'm
really kind of upset about it, actually.

You're upset about what? I'm upset.

I'm upset with you, Lisa. Me?

Yes, because you grabbed my phone and
you talked to Jared. You texted him. You

FaceTimed him. And it caused this huge
rift. Wait, wait. What caused the huge

rift? You.

You caused the huge rift. I caused a
huge rift? I don't understand why you're

invested in me and my relationship.

Okay. Why I'm so invested in your
relationship?

I don't understand why you would be mad
at me because Jared's upset with you

because we called him out for his bad
behavior. Yeah, but, like, you asked him

on my behalf. And we were laughing about
it, and we had the best time. Because

you were, like, so mean to him, and it
was something I cared about.

He deserved it. He deserved it. How do
you know? He deserved it because he was

manipulating you. He literally was,
like, writing over and over and over

Bestie, you're not even his girlfriend.

I was his girlfriend. He just likes to
be private about, like, our

No, he's not private about it.

He is, like, somebody.

That I would run from. Lisa, I just want
to be in a good space with him where I

can at least be friends.

And what you did might have ruined it
forever.

I just want to be in a good space with
him where I can

at least be friends.

And what you did might have ruined it
forever.

Okay. I'm so confused right now.

Brittany, you were just thanking us all
for, like, building you up in Milwaukee,

and now you're mad at me for having a
backbone for you. Thank God I took over

your phone, or you'd still be in this
horrible relationship.

Stay out of it.

It's none of your business. I know. Stay
out of it. It's none of y 'all's

business. Leave us out of it.

Gladly. You're wasting a lot of time
about this. I will 100 % leave you out

it. Good. Thank you so much. Leave me
out, too. That's awesome. Thank you.

me out, three. Yeah. Hey, you got it.

Anybody got time for this? Done.

You know what? Let's just enjoy the day.

Moving on.

So, Heather, how are your girls?

They're good.

Oh, Mary, you saw Georgia.

I did.

She had so much fun. You saw Georgia?

Mm -hmm. Wait, where did you see
Georgia?

Oh, I don't know. The wind blew her to
me.

And I blew it back.

How did you see Georgia? I'm confused. I
just said it. Through the wind. The

wind blew us together.

Georgia's in a professional dance group,
and Mary was there at the class.

Oh, my gosh.

That's cool. Right? Is that kind of what
it was?

Mm -hmm. So how did you end up at
Georgia's dance class?

I was just there for the sake of it.

Trying to get a workout.

Hmm. Trying to get a workout?

A little bit.

What style is it? Is it, like, hip -hop,
classic?

It was hip -hop.

How many secrets going on there? I know,
is it like secret? It's like some

clandestine dance class. I was with
Angie.

Oh, fun.

I haven't talked to Angie.

Not since Milwaukee.

Why haven't you talked to her?

Why haven't I talked to Angie? I don't
know.

Are you upset at her?

Because last I'd seen you were calling
her the beaver.

In Milwaukee, I felt like she's not
being a very good friend, and I said it.

like, I don't think you're a good
friend. I can talk to Angie about it.

She's kind of being snarky about Lisa
behind her back. She said I'm a bad mom.

She insinuated I'm a bad mom.

That's like a love with love.

That's the lowest low ever. You want to
talk about not coming back from

anything? That's where you go when you
don't want to come back. 100%. It hurts.

It hurts the most. The stakes are the
highest. When Heather told me, I cried.

Well, why didn't you contact her and ask
her? She can call me and tell me what

her new issue is. If you cried about
something that somebody said, you

them, not anyone else. I don't know why
you cried. I felt like it took you by

surprise. I was shocked. She also feels
like you champion Lisa.

I do champion Lisa.

But you've known Angie since high
school. Yeah, but I mean, I champion

well, but in this situation, I'm on
Lisa's side.

I noticed that Heather says things
that's very hurtful.

She's always in the middle of something,
but yet she hides her hands.

She'll say stuff, but then she's
standing there like she's the innocent

You've been knowing Angie way longer
than any of us.

It doesn't mean I don't love and support
Angie as a person and as my friend. I

think Angie's just kind of taken Lisa
for granted, and she's kind of in this

mode where she feels like she wants to
change the terms of their friendship,

she hasn't really informed Lisa of how
that's going to happen, and she's just

critical and snarky. That's kind of true
for you, Heather.

I don't feel like it is. I would say
everything I'm saying right now is right

Angie's face.

Oh, God, here we go. My thing is with
you, I feel like you leave a trail

of lies.

Like the black eye.

What's wrong?

I don't know how this happened.

Then the fact that you champion body
positivity.

And now that's a lie too.

Why are we saying she's a liar? Because
she said body positivity is a lie. She

didn't say I was lying about it. It
wasn't about me. I'm saying the

people say that they really champion
people with different bodies. But the

is they champion people with beautiful
bodies. Yes.

And the truth is they just really all
want you to be skinny.

The entire world is criticizing the way
that I'm losing weight or not losing

weight or what I look like, Mary. I
don't need it from you two.

I'm just trying to live my goddamn life
and have it not be about my body for

one. I'm not trying to hurt you,
Heather. I know you're not. I know

But it's frustrating because we need to
figure this out. Yeah, we do. And it

feels like we're at an impasse. We do.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City, Sean and I are celebrating

our 25th wedding anniversary and the
theme, Mob Wives.

I was going for like, my Todd father
died and I'm still mourning him.

You love to make stuff up. I love to
make stuff up.

They verified that you were the one that
said this. I did not do that. Shut the

fuck up about that. You have to deal
with the lies and sit through the shit.

Don't call my wife a liar. She's a liar.