All language subtitles for The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City – S5E2

Does your G -Wagon have pink lights on
it? Yeah. Do you want the lights purple

to match Freddie?

I like the pink. The pink matches me.
Freddie, you want purple lights?

He probably does.

What did you think of last night?

Okay, so I was unprepared.

I didn't know what was happening with
you and Brittany. She came in a little

with me and more so with Mary.

Bronwyn, I love your costume. My
costume?

We don't wear costumes. We wear fashion.
I have five siblings.

And we never had enough.

I grew up poor.

Why was I poor? I didn't say that.

I grew up poor.

Yeah, I knew Mary did like that. But
that was a lot for me, 30 seconds into

meeting someone.

But actually, I'm still starving from
last night. I couldn't eat. Oh my gosh,

was a lot.

Did you tell Wendy about our
conversation that you had with me and

have both mentioned me. You said plenty
and she said plenty. It's not about who

says plenty. It's about you repeating
what I said. He lied about me and you

it. I have never lied. You said that I
wrote an article.

material oh my gosh i felt like you were
right about most of what you were

saying but i think i was more worried
about the fact that i love angie but i

don't think she was getting that she
wasn't helping whitney as much as she

upsetting you and heather wait can you
hold on one yeah of course can you just

be quiet for a second yeah of course
we'll be quiet hey ang hey how's it

good what's up uh listen i was wondering
if you

Had some time for me this afternoon.

I just wanted to talk to you alone, the
two of us. You know what? I'm running

some errands, but I'll text you as soon
as I'm done. Is that cool?

Yeah. Okay, perfect. All right. Bye,
Ange. Bye.

Thanks. Were you expecting that? No.

Think you can help?

Buddy, will you stop picking the wall?

This is like old people books.

Can you help dial, like maybe do like
old people books and young people books?

Bobby, what is that book called?

Get Your Things Together.

Can I give that to Lisa?

No, I'm going to keep that.

Like, I felt bad for Whitney last night.
I mean, they were all three yelling and

calling her a liar. I couldn't really
get a word in to support Whitney. Then

Lisa felt like I wasn't supporting her.
She lunged forward at me at the table

and she got really aggressive.

It's an intimidation tactic and you
can't allow her to do that.

I need to tell her how I feel. I need to
continue to be more honest with her and

see where it goes.

Sounds great.

Last night, one of the girls said, I'm
just trying to relate to you, Mary,

because I grew up poor, too.

She doesn't even know you.

Don't ever call me poor, because that's
like being ungrateful to God.

Okay, forget it. Let's talk about
another. Let's talk about another.

Want some donuts?

Yeah. It's like a cake one.

Oh, you've already dug it? Okay.

Somebody got the munchies.

Robert is currently at home right now.
He's not in college.

Robert does ask me for money.

And no, he's not working. But I just
feel like he's very sheltered. And I

like that's my fault.

And so that's why I don't mind him
staying at home. You don't need the

napkin? Can you please?

One day I'll give him the boot.

But not right now.

Thank you.

How's Gwen doing?

She wants to open a coffee shop. I love
that idea. It's going to be so cute.

It's going to be so cute. It'll be so
stylish.

And she knows exactly what she wants to
serve.

Your big sister's amazing, Freddie.

She's going to be a coffee connoisseur,
isn't she?

I've known Bronwyn for years, and I love
Bronwyn's daughter, Gwen.

She's beautiful. She's smart. She's
funny.

And, like, I don't know who I like more,
Bronwyn or Gwen.

Have you ever been to Heather? No, I
haven't been to Heather.

Oh, it's cute.

Should I honk the horn? Oh, it's
beautiful.

Look how cute Heather is. I know.

I haven't been honked at in a long time.
Since you were 16.

16,

I think I wasn't honked for. Heather,
you're going to have to tell me where

Wendy's is. Yeah.

You guys ready for Frosty's? Okay.

Okay, what do you guys want? I'll do a
JVC, fries.

No, you guys can't use acronyms. Can I
get an order of the nuggets with three

barbecue sauce on the side?

Oh, my gosh. Can you sort, sir?

We got an extra Diet Coke.

Can I give this back to you? Because we
don't have enough cup holders.

Thank you.

Heather, what did you think of last
night?

I mean, I thought it was crazy.

It was a lot. I was so frustrated
because I feel like I've given Whitney

grace. And when she went on the podcast,
she had a lot of derogatory things to

say about me. I'm like, you're lying
about me and I'm defending myself.

the bottom line.

You know, I'm so disgusted with Whitney
that she would go on a podcast.

She doesn't care about anything else
other than being right.

Lisa's always been the villain.

And I'm even more disappointed in Angie
that she would go behind my back and

repeat my feelings to Whitney.

Why would you do that?

Angie is very close with Whitney. And
I'm like, that's great.

But it changes our dynamic because I
don't want like anything I say to her

venting or like sharing a feeling to be
weaponized against me. Okay, but you're

going to talk to Angie.

So I'm going to talk to Angie. She asked
me if we could meet up. I love Angie. I

think that she wants to support Whitney,
but it's clear Whitney's really messy,

which she's admitted.

But I also woke up in the middle of the
night feeling like, did we totally gang

up on Whitney? No. It didn't seem like a
gang up to me because it felt like the

way it like kept ratcheting up was
Whitney.

The whole, like, do you want to see a
healed Whitney?

I was like, do we practice this in the
mirror at home? Like, little tears were

eking out. I was laughing so hard. I was
like, it's just so trite. I can't.

This is the type of energy that's burned
me in the past.

And I feel very wary of someone who has
such strong, harsh opinions about people

that they're just meeting for the first
time.

I'm going to reach out to Whitney and
see what her take on it all is.

You beat me to it. I was coming to get
this. Thank you, honey.

You're so sweet.

Hello?

Welcome. Hey. Hi, how are you? You must
be my private class today. Yes. Yes. I'm

Chef Chris. Hi, Chef. It's a pleasure to
meet you. Great to meet you, Chef.

Meredith, pleasure to meet you. Are you
guys excited? I'm really excited.

All right, come on back. Maybe more than
he is. You don't like to cook?

He doesn't know how.

You'll learn today.

Since last year, Seth got a new position
back in Ohio again, this time Columbus.

I love you in an apron. This is what I
signed up for.

This company requires a lot more travel
for him. Would you like me to tie you?

Yes, please tie me. You can put your
arms down. I'm not tying those.

But since he's here, I know he knows
absolutely nothing about cooking, so I

thought it was time that he learned a
thing or two.

As you chose shakshuka, this is what
we're going to make today.

This is going to be a garnish. We just
want the little leaves. I thought this

was an Israeli dish. It is a very common
dish in Israel, but it was created

many, many moons before that.

Honey, you picked, like, the best dish
ever.

For our bell pepper, cut the bottom off
now. Open up the pepper. Ah.

Hear that fizzle? That means that oil's
nice and hot. Go ahead and add the

peppers. There you go.

What are you doing?

Really? I was feeling it. Okay, here we
go. Everything is done. Look at that.

Those eggs look poached beautifully.

Beautiful.

Fabulous. Thank you. Beautiful.

Enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Are you trying to listen to me chew?

I'm trying to see if you're having
culinary sex.

It's really good.

Can I have half of that? Absolutely. You
can have all of it, honey.

I don't think you remember. We
definitely did have this at Reed's Bar

Israel. Yes, I do.

So I've been thinking a lot, you know,
about my heritage and just how I

feel about all the, you know, hatred and
anti -Semitism in the world right now.

I've always been very proud to be
Jewish.

I want to get bat mitzvahed.

You're shocked.

I'm rarely at a loss for words, but it's
so powerful, making this commitment,

this later in this back half of our
life.

It's freaking beautiful.

You're going to learn Hebrew and do a
whole Torah portion and do the whole

yards? Of course.

In Judaism, a bar bat mitzvah, marks a
person's coming of age. It's typically

done at 12 or 13 years old.

I'm so proud of you.

Thank you. My family never put a huge
emphasis on religion.

Our roots in Judaism were always our
heritage.

And traditionally, women were not bat
mitzvahed. It was not something my

or I did. It was not something that my
mother or grandmothers did.

And I never really had a strong desire
to do it until recently.

It's my blood.

When you were Jewish and you didn't get
bar mitzvahed, this whole time, to me,

is a little bit of emptiness.

This is really fulfilling. No, you've
encouraged this over the years. You

to get me to get bar mitzvahed with
Chloe.

And I said no.

And it's just, it's so, for me, Deep in
the sense that there's not a lot of Jews

in this world.

No. So it's like, you think, hey, I'm
Jewish.

Not often that the parent does it last.

Leave it to me.

Leave it to me. I'm so proud of you.

I can't wait to talk dirty in Hebrew.

Hey, I need a table for two.

Right this way. Thanks. I love a booth.

Thank you so much.

Okay, thanks.

You guys enjoy? Hey, Angie. Thank you.

Hi. How's it going?

Good. How are you? I'm good. I just went
ahead and ordered a little drink.

I'm going to look at the menu real
quick.

I'm going to check it out.

For the past couple of years, Angie's
been someone I talk to all the time. I

care about her. I care about her
feelings. I've had her back. I take her

feel like I'm such a good friend to her.
And it shocks me that she cares so

little about our friendship and my
feelings that she would take things that

shared with her in confidence and repeat
them to Whitney. It's not only

upsetting, it's beyond hurtful.

Thanks for meeting me.

I didn't sleep well last night. I don't
know how you slept.

Thank you.

Like Lisa, you know, I just, I left
there and I don't think it really hit me

till I got home.

Just how you guys were like, it felt
like a

gang up. You three, you, Heather,
Meredith. I didn't feel like it was a

You took the conversation, me, Heather,
and you had, and you brought it back to

Whitney.

You and I have conversations that are
meant just for you and me. Yeah. Not

for everybody else. And you say things
to me that I don't share with anybody

else. And like, that's what I need to
make sure you and I still have.

I told Whitney what Lisa said, not
because I thought Whitney was in the

for calling her a villain, but because I
thought she probably owed her an

apology so they can move forward.

Listen, at times I do feel like I'm
trying to do everything to prove that

good friend to you. For me, I just feel
like we're good. And then I feel like

these extraneous things happen. And like
you have made it harder at times to be

honest. How? I think other people in the
group do have a fear that, like,

Heather taking up for you last night was
like, I'm going to show you, Lisa, that

I am here.

Oh, wait. Oh, my God. This is a little
frustrating for me. So because she's

frustrated, you think it's taking up for
me? She was taking up for herself. I

can handle myself.

She was frustrated.

Meredith was frustrated.

Because the same thing keeps happening.
I feel like I'm getting labeled, and

this is where I close off. I don't know
if Angie's...

Only deaf when it comes to me. But,
like, if she could stop trying to

me to think exactly like her and would
listen to me with the intent to

understand me, we would get a lot
further.

Because I'm strong, I don't deserve to
be held. No, you do.

But you may not realize that you are
talking over someone or you are talking

louder than someone. Like, somebody like
her, she's not as strong as you. This

is how I talk. This is how I move my
hands when I talk. This is how I am when

I'm passionate.

I am me. I'm not changing. I'm like late
40s and I'm like Lisa Barlow. This is

it. This is what you get.

I've seen this movie before starring
Lisa Barlow. You're expected to just

And I'm not going to do that this time.

I came here with good intentions.

So how are we ever supposed to move
forward if she won't even hear me out?

I know who the... I am. And I don't need
everybody saying, oh, you have good

sides. And, like, people get to know
you. They'll like you. Why is everybody

saying that to you, though? Because
maybe they have a perception because it

keeps getting perpetuated.

And it's so annoying.

It's an easy out. It's an easy out. You
know what? If everyone wants to think

I'm a... I'm a villain and a bitch and
I'm self -centered. I don't really care

anymore. I don't think everyone thinks
that, Lisa. That's not the point of the

conversation. I'm going to go, but I
love you and hope we can continue the

conversation.

Bye, Lisa.

No, don't bite it. No.

No, if you bite it, you're going to get
stuck in there. If you bite it, you're

going to get stuck in there.

You're going to get stuck in there.

Where is your cute face?

Where is it? Freddie.

She's so silly.

She hates it. She keeps trying to bite
it off. Of course she does.

Freddie has a surprise for you.

I hope I don't step in, Freddie.
Surprise is what I hope.

No, Freddie got you a real surprise.

We put out last night. I'm surprised you
didn't even notice that. Well, I

usually do.

But Freddie, well, actually, I got you a
surprise.

I met Todd almost 10 years ago.

I worked in finance at the time in San
Francisco. I was supposed to meet a

client for lunch, and Todd was sitting a
few stools down for me at this bar and

was just...

So funny. This is nice. I like the box.

He asked for my email, and I remember
thinking he was going to, like,

professionally mentor me.

Oh, I think I know what this surprise
is. I went to work the next day.

And I worked on a trading desk with all
men and they were like, he's hitting on

you. And I said, no, he asked for my
email. And they were like, he didn't ask

for your email for work purposes. It's
because he is old. He may not know how

text. Like, does he have, is it a flip
phone?

Is it like one of those old people phone
that has like the life alert? I was

like, okay, he's not that old.

I loved it. This was from the Vegas
Grand Prix, right? Yes.

I loved this. That was really nice of
you.

Freddie, thank you. Todd was an OG in
the tech world.

Todd was the CEO of Palm.

So ask one of your elders about a Palm
pilot or a trio or any of those things.

That was Todd.

Oh, you want me to get him?

Since Todd and I have been together, he
has pivoted and does private equity.

His hedge fund is based in New York. So
I would say he has to be there two to

three days a week.

It's almost like 10 years of Brownman
has really pushed him to the other side

the country.

Cody. Hello, hello.

Good morning and morning.

Look who's back.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Isn't this beautiful
snow?

I know.

I know.

Guys,

what is going on with this furniture?

Like, is it... Did we leave anything in
the showroom? This is very carefully

placed, as is. Don't you like it?

Gwen and Todd and I have lived in this
house in Salt Lake City for a year and a

half. Should we talk about dining room?

Yes. Vision there? Yes, yes, yes.
Because it's kind of... Okay, and this

Well, and so this is super unfinished
right now.

Todd would love if we'd already
decorated it.

Todd is a, like, finished is better than
perfect kind of guy.

We have a lot of pieces that I've
collected from all over the world.

We've got some very unique pieces from
China, some very cool artwork from

Vietnam. The really special thing about
Todd is that he likes me happy. So even

if it's rainbow cheetah carpet, if he
can walk on it...

He's probably not going to complain.

I actually carried the torch in the
London Olympics on my torch.

You carried the torch?

Yes. Todd ran the Olympic torch before
they lit the whole thing during the

London Olympics.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So he has
a version of the torch. Very cool. So

stuff like that's cool to put out.

Maybe we should start with a piece of
art that we bought.

This is a real unboxing. This is not
like when I get a new purse, you know?

Okay. So here we are, a year and a half
later, opening a sculpture that I

bought.

Two days after we closed on the house?

Mazel.

Wow. So it is chairs all stacked on top
of each other with a light installation

that says, you changed my life.

Where's that?

There's a version of this in the
Guggenheim, and it's experimental and

which way is forward?

That way, yeah. Okay.

Like that, yeah.

What'd you do with the scissors? I don't
want to break these while we're ripping

this off.

You want me to find scissors?

You threw upstairs.

I'll be right back. There's a pair in
the bathroom. Yeah, I'll go get it.

Excuse me.

Um,

you know Todd's number here.

You and I have to talk when he's not
here about the closet. Closet. Yeah.

seen the archive that's going in there?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And that Gwen

settled in a bedroom.

Okay. Before she moves out for college.

Todd and I have no kids together, and
Gwen is my daughter from a previous

relationship.

I got pregnant with Gwen when I was 19,
turning 20.

Her dad was not interested in being a
part of it. So Gwen and I are probably

close. I'm curious what you're most
excited about when you graduate. Is it

getting away from me?

I just like to be independent.

You know, I like to do my own thing.

Is that a nice way of saying getting
away from me?

Yeah. She can tell me anything. She can
talk to me about anything.

But I think as she starts to move out
and separate from me.

I'm trying really hard not to let her
know how badly that's going to hurt me,

but it's obvious that it is.

I'd like to do the dining and living
together and the entry piece so we can

at least a statement. When you walk in
the door, you can entertain.

Because right now I'm starting to give
off a little bit of a sus vibe when

people are like, let's get together. And
I'm always like, let's meet at a

restaurant. Let's meet at the gym.

I think they live in a box somewhere
because I won't let people come over.

Hi. Hi.

Yeah, parking back.

Hi. Hi.

You can pick out one crystal as a
special token under $500.

Hi, welcome in.

Hi. If you have any questions, I'll be
here to assist.

Oh, awesome. Thank you.

I'm all up in my feels about seeing
Heather today. Like, the Bezos party

Our relationship is complicated, but we
are very close.

She's my girl. And there's only one way
to get through things, and that is to

work through it. What is this gem?

I don't know. It doesn't have anything
listed. It just is beautiful and feels

calming. Can you show me a crystal that
would have helped at dinner?

There's nothing powerful enough for that
room.

It was a total gang up.

You lied about me in the book. You did.
You lied about that. You accused me of

lying about my father's memorial.

You said that I wrote unauthorized.

You have accused Mary of running a cult
and being a predator.

You have accused everyone in our core
group of having affairs.

You exploited my vagina!

It was not a gang up as much as like,
we're all saying, yeah, it happened to

too, me too, me too. And you were just
like, nope, nope, nope.

I'm lying about feelings, not facts.

If Lisa would have listened to me, then
she wouldn't have had to hear my

feelings on a podcast.

Her calling me a liar over my feelings
is no different than me calling her a

liar for being mad at me.

There's no difference.

But it feels kind of like you just DGAF
about how your friendships go at this

point. Like, you're doing you, you're on
your healing journey, and if it hurts

other people in the process, like, deal
with it.

I'm super frustrated with Whitney, and
even though I love her, does not mean

that I like her.

She does a lot of damage and she expects
all of her friends to just kind of

absorb it and recover from it. And it's
like, we may be strong enough to do

that, but only to a certain point.

And then you're going to be screwed
forever.

And not even blood relatives will save
you.

Bottom line is, I wish you would have
stood up for me a little bit more.

And not piled on. Okay, I apologize for
that. I apologize for my part in it. But

do you see, if three of your friends are
telling you... I do see that. So, yes,

if three of my friends are telling me
something, that means that there's

something I need to look at. Yeah. I
just don't know how we're ever going to

really, like, move forward if we don't
just, like, stop going back.

Before all of this went down, I had
this, like, fun trip planned, and...

You're going to laugh.

Okay, tell me. I'm scared now.

I'm going to Milwaukee.

Shut up. To Trixie's bar.

Trixie has a bar in Milwaukee?

Trixie has a gay bar in Milwaukee.

Hi. Hi.

How are you?

Like, I really wanted all the girls to
come.

Yeah. I had some fun activities planned,
like a Bucks game. There's no way you

can invite everybody right now.

Well, Auntie and Bronwyn can come. Now
Heather can come.

Because I did. I met up with Bronwyn,
and she's awesome, and she was super

supportive.

At the dinner the other night, I was
like, Whitney and I have a lot in

and I was happy talking to you until it
got interrupted. I genuinely was like, I

love Bronwyn. I love people who are very
direct. I really appreciate your

openness.

Really? I want to give Whitney some
credit here, but are we talking about

same Bronwyn? Because the Bronwyn I know
does not like you. In fact, she was

crying, laughing at you. It just does
not track.

Milwaukee is like Laverne and Shirley
land, right?

Milwaukee is like, don't sleep on
Milwaukee.

Milwaukee wants us. Okay, I was going to
get everybody together to do some sort

of like team building exercise, like a
ropes course. I think if I invite

everybody, then you can just kind of see
where the temperature's at. Because I

don't want you to throw this trip away.

I will come to your activity.

Okay, then I shall plan it.

Coming up. If we want to get our words
in order, you're going to need to get

your words in order with all of this
group because you were a team in Lisa

were saying horrible things about
Whitney.

Are you serious?

What do you have going on, madame? I'm
working on bath bombs.

It's like a science project.

Right? I've been working with a lab, but
I wanted to figure out the perfect bath

bomb so that I can give a recipe to the
lab. This bath bomb process is not so

easy. It's quite an undertaking.

Where are my safety goggles?

Here are your goggles.

Oh my God.

I design and have all of my own products
created. So let's start with recipe

one. I don't just slap my label on
anything and call it Meredith Marks. As

guys know, I've been talking about doing
this for like at least a year, maybe

longer. And then Heather came over the
other day and she was like, did you see

Whitney's bath bomb?

I thought.

You taking a bath is creepy.

Like, it's creepy, it's dirty.

Like, everyone knows that baths are my
thing. You know, whatever.

Recipe. So did you pick the bone with
her? Are you letting it fizzle? Oh, no,

I did. I did. She was just like, I've
been doing bath bombs for a long time. I

love when you impersonate her.

And my jewelry is about spirituality.

Yes, girl.

Well, anyway, I'm just so excited you
guys are here and helping me with this.

have so much work. I've been working
like seven days a week. It's a lot.

She's a boss.

And guess what, guys?

What? What?

I'm going to start studying to be
butler.

You're kidding, right?

No, I'm very serious.

I don't think people do that at your
age.

I've never heard of that before.

Wow. I thought you were supposed to do
it when you were 13.

Yeah, you are. So why?

Like, respectfully, why? I'm much more
emotionally in touch and mature, and

my choice. It's what I want. It's not
like, oh, this is what you do because

you're 13.

You're not doing it for the party and
the coins?

No. I don't need any gifts.

Did you tell Dad yet?

Yeah. Dad was so excited. I think this
needs more water.

Because, you know, he's wanted me to do
that for a while. So exciting.

Mazel tov.

Mazel tov, yeah.

My parents actually built a pickleball
court in their backyard.

What? Yeah, because the eight -year -old
wouldn't allow them to do a full tennis

court. She was a tennis snob. Oh, okay,
got it. You know what I mean?

So anyway. Who's better at it, you or
your mom? Oh, my mom. She can cream any

us. Cream?

Brittany's one of my Mormon friends.

I met her through Angie Harrington, and
there's an earnestness and kind of an

open vulnerability to Brittany that I
find really charming.

Here's your paddle.

Thank you. And it's a nice departure
from my other friends that are pretty

defensive and cynical.

Okay, I think I have to, no, not like
that. I think you're supposed to be

the baseline, no? For a serve? I don't
know.

No, I don't think so. Okay. You have to
be behind the line.

You do?

Yep. Okay, never mind. I hate to always
be right, but. You were right, you were

right.

Oh my gosh, I feel so out of shape.

I need some more cardio, this is
perfect.

Hey, your invite was so cute.

I'm excited for your little adventure
get -together.

Do you love adventure?

Do you love the outdoors?

Do you love friendship?

You can have all three if you join me
this weekend for a fun adventure.

I feel like we need that after the other
night.

It's true.

So, how are you and Jared?

Oh, gosh.

We're figuring it out.

I'm Mormon, but I've been married and
divorced twice.

I met Jared right after my second
divorce.

Because my ex -husband and his ex
-fiance started dating, Jared found out

and he called me and we commiserated, we
trauma bonded over it, and our

friendship turned into a romance. I just
want you to know how much you mean to

me. You and I have had a very
interesting seven months as best

But Jared and I have broken up 16 times.

And we always get back together. We just
can't seem to stay broken up.

How come you aren't dating?

I just feel like my life is finally,
like, going in a direction that I

and like. And why would I want to screw
that up with a man?

And you know what? My marriage was
really, really miserable.

Yeah, you and I really have had
extremely similar experiences, I'll put

way. Sacrifice what we want to do for a
man.

It seems like you're only divorced for
like how many months before you're in

another serious relationship?

Yeah, I know.

Actually, the longest I've ever been
single is like eight months.

Why does being alone like make you
uncomfortable?

I guess because I value that romantic
relationship probably more than maybe I

should. What about your kids too? You
know what I mean? How do you juggle all

that and feel not like torn in a
thousand different directions?

I have totally.

sacrifice my kids for a man but it's my
fault that's the problem it's like

that's the worst part well what happened
oh it's a long story i'll tell you

sometime okay britney is mormon and she
reminds me of the mormonism that i was

steeped in my entire life the celestial
law is clear as day you can get into

heaven without children but not without
a husband and so mormonism creates

Women that prize the romantic
relationship above everything else. I

a dozen times where I put my husband's
needs in front of my children. And so I

can understand how Brittany could find
herself in this position, as horrible as

it sounds.

That's the most painful part of life and
regrets, is knowing that you could have

made it with a toy.

But you still didn't lose your zest for
love. I really don't know what that's

about.

Patriarchy.

Maybe. Coming up. Why can't you make
men's with your children?

I don't care. You just shut up. Shut me
up. You seriously. Shut me up.

expensive, but my blow dry stays for
days. This is yesterday's and I woke up

looking like this.

Hi, Andy.

Oh, hi.

You look gorgeous.

I would expect nothing less. Just
serving treats here.

I wanted to come see you. I wanted to
catch up and I've never...

Well, we need to, like, make you a full
-time guest.

Thank God people in Salt Lake City are
so vain and like to get their hair done

because our business is booming.

It feels huge.

We are opening our 10th location, and
Sean and I love working together.

This is Cole.

Hi. So nice to meet you.

It's her first time here. We went
through a lot together last year with

talking about our marriage, rumors about
our business, and it brought us

together, and we're stronger as a couple
today because of it.

Thanks, Meredith.

If you thought you were going to get
your hair done in peace, I'm happy that

did. I was dying to see you independent
of everybody else. Thank you for saying

that because I left Lisa's event
thinking I loved Bronwyn and worried

might be thinking of me because of how
my relationship with Lisa might have

looked that night. I love Lisa and we're
always going to be friends, but nothing

that was said about her was.

I think Whitney does probably feel like
she has to do what Lisa wants a lot.

It's probably okay to be able to say
that. I don't love, you know, saying I

don't want to kiss your ass and stomping
out and that whole work. And I have

that conversation separate with Whitney.
I think she needs to find a different

way to get her point across.

I would love in the future if you have a
problem with me that you would make me

a full scroll. I mean, I hope we never
have a full scroll. Are you kidding?

You're worth a longer scroll full of all
good things.

Bronwyn is easy to get to know. She's
warm. She's witty.

Her fashion alone is enough to put on a
scroll.

I have to tell you, when I met you at
that event last year, I thought your

husband was so sweet.

I can see why you just adore and love
him. I think not everybody sees that

of him. I think people see an
intimidating, serious, kind of

him. So when you were like, oh, your
husband's this big teddy bear, I was

okay, well, nobody recognizes that about
him. So I love that. You know what was

weird about the dinner the other night?
I was talking to somebody else that I

didn't know that night, and they asked
me if I'm hard to get to know. And I

yes, but I didn't feel that. way about
you can i ask who and if you don't want

to tell me you don't have to britney's
all over the place i want to see how

goes a little bit okay i know you know i
saw britney yesterday we went bowling

and she brought the fur heart up twice
yesterday this is being really weird i

don't like to call another woman stupid
i like to be supportive of other women

but i'm not sure this woman can spell
ysl so i'm not really stressed about

whether or not she likes what i was
wearing you know i don't know if she

what i'm not even meaning like yves
saint laurent i mean i don't know if she

put the three letters together There's
no other way to say this. Women like

Brittany are the reason I struggle to
make strong female friendships.

I often think I can trust someone and
then later that ends up not being the

case. I love that she's still worried
about that a week later. Yeah, so you're

really going to have to go over the top
tomorrow.

This reminds me of when I was at BYU and
I was 19 and pregnant and other women

were judging me and talking about me.

And that has not gone away. I'm a little
nervous about this to begin with, but

now I'm really feeling like I have to
really show up tomorrow. Just look

fabulous. Ready for my Navy SEAL tryout.
I've just shoved that down, and so I

don't always feel like I can trust other
people. I'm always waiting for someone

to let me down.

By the way, I am... never going to chit
chat with a friend without a scalp

massage at the same time coming up all
you do is talk in feelings start talking

in facts and then we can have a good
conversation friend you're a friend

a friend

I'm Heather.

Hi, I'm Brinley. Hi, Brinley. Nice to
meet you.

Nice to meet you.

I'm a little scared. As I was walking
up, I was like, I didn't realize it was

this intense.

I'm like one of the sportier ones, if
that gives you any indication of

up today. You'll be fine.

Is this what we're doing?

Oh, my gosh.

You might want to get back in the Range
Rover and drive.

What's going on?

Are you talking to me? No. No, we're
talking. If somebody falls, is that it?

No. I'm sure we're going to be harnessed
towards it.

Hello, ladies.

Hi, Bailey.

You look great.

You have a good time.

Oh, my gosh. Are we going through the
mud?

Oh, lovely.

I think that today is just going to be a
standstill with Lisa.

Like, I'm pissed at her. I feel like she
owes me an apology.

But I'm also smart enough to know that
she probably thinks I owe her an

I don't understand why Mary's so rude to
me.

She's not a listener.

If you think I'm poor, ask me. But she
just assumed I was.

It's because I tried to relate to her.
She's just not.

The sharpest knife in the drawer.

She's not even the sharpest spoon.

Welcome, everyone.

Thank you all for coming.

I'm so excited for this activity. I
think it's going to push all of us a

bit in a good way, hopefully.

And with no further ado, I'm going to
turn the time over to our friend

who will be leading us through this
intense activity.

Awesome. We are going to do a helmet
harness glove. So kind of come up. We'll

harness you guys up. I did not purchase
the additional insurance rider.

My primary goal is that no one dies
because I can't afford it.

How does it make my butt look? And then
hopefully we trauma bond and strengthen

our friendship.

Mary, how are you today?

I'm good. Good. How are you? I'm good.
Good.

Hope you stay that way.

Bear, you're missing out. Are you sure
you don't want to do this? Are you sure?

I feel like you can do it in your little
outfit. No, no, it's not the outfit. I

can't. I have tennis elbow from churning
too much butter.

Two hands. Here we go.

Oh, I thought you were going to say
something else.

I mean, Seth would be so happy if I were
talking in cone.

I got to figure out how I'm going to
push off.

I guess I'm going to be super active
today, actively avoiding Angie and

and actively surviving this road course.

You know it's bad when you're more
excited to see Meredith than Lisa.

When Lisa walked up, it's like automatic
to say hi and be nice, but I'm feeling

a little uncomfortable.

This is awkward. That made my lips chat.
I need some chapstick after this. Put

your chapstick on.

Guys, I think, is everyone harnessed up
and ready to go?

All right, right over here. Okay, let's
go.

Hook me in twice, kids. Twice? Are we
almost there?

Do we have a guide?

I hope so.

There's nothing to hold onto up here.
It's literally just a rope. There's

nothing for it to stand on.

Can it support my body weight?

It isn't. Just testing.

Okay, hold on. Let me just get a little.
Oh, my God. I don't think I like this.

Look at your little booty.

Oh, my God. Let's not.

Angie, do you hate it? Lisa, stop.

We all hate it, babe. Stop.

Good job, man.

Louie's are holding solid, Brittany.
Good job.

Mary, thanks for being so encouraging. I
love you. We're almost here.

Take another step, sis. One more step,
one more step. Yes, Andy.

Thank you.

You guys are doing great up there.

I'm a very proud mama down here.

I'm never giving a handjob again.

That's what this feels like. That's
disgusting. Focus on the task, okay, you

pervs? They're young kids here working.

i guess it'd be like hiding under a desk
what i mean i've done

a time or two i cannot they can't make
me do this my hands hurt i have to have

someone come get me code one removal
please oh you guys are causing a code

okay here grab my hand

Did Heather, I didn't dare like that.
Heather did fall.

Looks like she's giving him a blowy
right now.

Heather,

why are you on your knees?

Oh, my gosh, I love the earth.

Oh, my gosh.

Wow. I could not have recovered from
that. You know what, though? It's not

to stop me from telling her she's a
moron.

Who was that up there with?

Maylee.

I thought Maylee was way thinner than
that.

The ground of America.

I want to kiss the earth.

Let me... Ground. I love you.

It was harder than childbirth.

Okay, who here wants to eat and drink
and relax?

Yay! Okay, good. Come on, you guys.

You guys, is that a food truck?

Heather, did you get us a food truck?
Yes! Oh, my gosh. Yummy.

Hi. I need sustenance. Can I get a
quesadilla?

I'll try the molita, two chicken tacos,
and a hot chocolate. Can I get the

quesadilla, but can I get it with bean
and cheese?

I could have got a quesadilla. I don't
want to have to go number two. I hope

nobody heard me.

Right here. Thank you.

Let's get this back.

Did you have fun today?

I did. You have your food. Come sit
down.

You guys, come on down here.

Heather,

I would have never done this.

Mary, it's so funny.

She is on one, and I love it. Thank you.
Any salsa for you? No, it'll give me

gas. I got to drive home with her.

I have never heard the word sis more
than I have today. Is it me? No, it's

everybody. I think sis a lot. It's like
sis, sis, sis.

That's exactly right, sis. Sis, sis,
sis, sis, sis, sis.

Sis, sis, sis, sis, sis, sis.

Hey,

you guys, I want to make a toast.

Ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting,
ting.

All right, talkers, talkers.

For those of you who know, like, my
relationship drama has been, like, on

get off again.

So last night, Jared took me out, and
then we bought matching jewelry at Louis

Vuitton. Oh. And then he officially
asked me to be his girlfriend.

Oh, my gosh!

And he made an Instagram official, which
doesn't sound like a big deal, but it

is a huge deal because he's never posted
about anyone ever.

But the Instagram I saw, he said, my
best friend, and you guys were at

I'm not giving up anything to go to
Costco with some guy to claim my ass.

Nobody's going to take any shine away
from Costco, certainly not me.

And while a Costco cart has meaning to a
lot of people, and certainly in my

life, I don't think it's the declaration
of love that most young girls are

looking for.

My best friend at Costco was the big
Jeff. Wait, is this the post?

You're not official.

Brittany, you're not official.

I want you to be happy. for me i'm just
trying to figure out why do we care mary

rude

so

last night he officially

asked me to be his girlfriend oh my gosh
i want you to be happy for me i'm just

trying to figure out why do we care mary
rude

Like you were the other night. You were
so rude to me the other night. I was not

rude to you. You were so rude. I don't
even know you.

You said you identified me with poor.

I never called you poor. Yes, you did.

I don't have any idea how you grew up.
You don't. I don't care about you and

your boyfriend.

Like, I don't know why that has to be
announced. I don't care. That is so

I don't think most of us care. Isn't
this a group of friends?

I don't know. I don't even know you.

Are you not open to learning anything
about Brittany?

Do you want me to care about you and
what you're going through? I didn't ask

to. I didn't have an announcement.
Brittany, I would be worried about this.

to me. I feel like Jared's working you
over a little bit.

Do you really?

I've gone to dinner with you and Jared.

Yeah. I've never met someone quite like
Jared.

He seems like a politician to me.

You are really, really into him.

I see that he cares for you. Yeah.

But the concern that Lisa shares, I
share as well because he should be

you as his girlfriend, not best friend.

You're happy with that. You're fine with
that. No, I'm not fine with that. It

hurts my feelings. So last night I
thought that's why I was so excited to

this toast because I felt like, I don't
know. I mean, that's a huge step for us.

Sorry. I'm emotional.

There's a lot going on in Brittany's
life with her kids and her ex and, like,

just trying to figure it out. It's a
little bit chaotic, and she's working on

repairing her relationships with her
nuclear family. Wait, what are the

with your family? Like, what happened
with your family? I have huge, like,

personal issues because neither daughter
will talk to me.

Why? Why?

Oh, it's so complicated, and it's
really, really personal. But you trust

about your boyfriend. Well, you just
told me you don't. Like me or want

to do with me. So I don't want to share
my personal details with you. You're

very difficult.

You need some soul searching, babe.
Mary's not wrong.

I'm kind.

If you're kind, why can't you make
amends with your children?

It kind of bothers me. It's kind of a
little bit of a trigger for me.

Like, it just reminds me of my mom.

My mom, like, she cared about having a
man.

But she forgot she had five kids at
home.

And those five kids at home was not even
fed.

We were running loose. We had no
disciplinarian. We had nobody watching

We didn't even feel like we were loved.

It hurts me to my core. I would never do
that to my son, ever.

Oh, you have no... No idea what you're
talking about. And I don't care. You

shut up. Shut me up. You seriously. Shut
me up. You cannot hit so below the

belt. Shut me up. Don't you ever, ever,
ever bring up my kids ever again. You

shut up. How about that? You just shut
up. But I am not attacking you as a mom.

There cannot be anything lower or meaner
than that. I think anyone that moms

shame should be ashamed of themselves.

Don't you?

ever bring up my kids ever again.
Because you know nothing. This is going

little too far. I don't think it needs
to go this direction.

It ain't going far enough. It's not far
enough. We're going a little bit too

far. Everyone show her some respect if
you respect me, honestly.

I'd like to learn something about
Brittany that didn't feel unhinged.

I feel about Brittany Wright. Wait,
excuse me? Say that again? Everything

learned about you so far feels chaotic
AF.

I'm sorry. And why is that?

You're on again, you're off again,
you're in a Costco cart, you called her

whore, you called me a hoarder. So all I
know about you is the party, and you

came in there hot and wild. I'm sorry,
you did.

Hot and wild? Yeah.

I feel like I've dragged Brittany like
this baby deer in front of all these

wolves, and she's clearly not up for the
fight.

And it's not warranted. They don't know
anything about this woman.

This feels like she is getting kicked in
the teeth, and I hate it.

At a certain place, all these words
matter, and you've got to get in the mix

what the words mean.

Like, girl, get your words tight.

And I know you don't like me saying
that, but it's true. You know I don't

you saying that, because if we want to
get our words in order, you're going to

need to get your words in order with all
of this group, because you have to tell

everybody a different story.

Because I went with Whitney and she said
you were supportive of her. But on our

Wendy's drive with Lisa, you were team
Lisa and were saying terrible things

about Whitney.

Are you serious?

On our Wendy's

drive with Lisa, you were team.

Lisa, and we're saying terrible things
about Whitney.

Are you serious?

And that made me feel like you were
being two -faced to Lisa and me and like

-faced to Whitney. What did she say
about me? Talking about when you said

is a healed Whitney. And you said you
had tears of laughter crying from your

eyes. I said I laughed at this girl, and
I did tell you that, too. Truly, if

that's all Bronwyn said, she's admitted
it to my face.

I'm not saying you were wrong, and it
was quite a moment to be like, do you

to meet the healed me?

I was like, I wonder if they practiced
this in the mirror at home before,

because it was iconic.

I don't even know where it came from. I
really don't think Heather's energy

matches what actually happened.

Lisa, is this all being conflated into
one conversation? I'm not trying to

conflate anything. But the way that
you're saying it is really messy and

confusing. When you said to me, Bronwyn
met with me and she was totally

supportive, I said, really, that
surprises me. Because of the lunch we

and you were in that lunch. Yeah, I left
that car feeling like everything you

said was a little bit poisonous,
especially about Whitney, especially

Maylee. And to find out when I was...
Did you leave the car feeling that way?

I think you have a different way of
speaking. Like, I understand the way she

talks. So you left out lunch thinking
that she likes Maylee and Whitney and

wanted to reach out to them and go to
lunch with them. Maybe Bronwyn got to

Whitney and hear a little bit more about
her side and what she feels the way she

did. And then everyone's entitled to
have a change of heart after they hear

another side.

Yeah, we can all have changes of heart.
Yes, of course.

But you can be friends with Whitney,
too. Bronwyn is very strong about

owning her words. And I'm like, well,
let's all own our words. But you're not

saying... let's all own our words you're
saying i should own my words because

everybody has said something i don't
understand where heather is coming from

because i was not doing a monologue at a
open mic night for lisa and heather so

i'm surprised it's being used against me
when i don't think anyone disagreed

with my opinion it was a communal
conversation and ron when you were

about it too that's what i'm telling her
stop yelling i'm not yelling it's just

the way i talk despite knowing lisa
first Seven or eight years now? I'm just

surprised that she has nothing to say to
defend me. I was not the only bitch in

that car.

Okay? There was four bitches because my
dog was there, too.

It is not helpful, Lisa.

Thanks for making it worse, not better.

At a basic human level, if someone's
being vulnerable with you and telling

about their trauma, do not weaponize it
to hurt them. And don't weaponize it

where you can't do. Who are you saying
this to? Nobody's weaponizing your

trauma. I'm saying as a group of
friends, we need to be better about

all steamrolled me. No, we did not
steamroll you. We're not going to use

word steamrolling because you know what
steamrolling is? Going on a podcast and

talking about your friends when they
can't defend themselves.

That's a steamroll. I haven't done
anything to you. The podcast?

That is it.

My intention was not to hurt you. I'm
sorry that you're receiving it that way,

but I also need you to understand that
there's a reason I was provoked to save

those things and feel this way. All you
do is talk in feelings. Start talking in

facts, and then we can have a good
conversation.

You're a shitty friend.

You're a shitty friend. Where are all
your calls? Where are your messages?

Where are you inviting me to things?
You're a shitty friend to me. You bonded

with me over your hatred of me, and
you're getting busted.

You take out. Things on me that have
nothing to do with me. And I feel the

I'll be totally honest. Oh, I'm clear.

Yeah. I'm sorry that I talked about you
on the podcast.

Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate the apology. It
doesn't take away from the fact that we

still have issues.

Would I also like an apology from
Whitney? Of course.

Is it surprising that I'm not getting
one right now?

Nope. Not at all.

I think that everyone at this table is
amazing.

I'm glad today happened.

I feel like there's still a lot of
things that need to be resolved, but I'm

comfortable to invite all of you to my
next drag show.

Oh, my goodness.

Trixie booked me to host a drag night at
her event in Milwaukee.

Oh, my goodness.

Milwaukee?

Milwaukee?

Nowhere?

This is where my dad is from, even
though he's in heaven. Yes, I've never

I would love for all of you just to come
on the girls trip to be together and

continue the bonding that we've had.

I booked a private jet.

I did some research and there is

a bathtub.

I'm not sure if I can make it, but we'll
discuss that later.

It's not that I don't want to go to
Milwaukee. I mean, who wouldn't want to

to Milwaukee in the middle of winter?

Meredith, there's a bathtub. You have to
come.

It's that I don't necessarily want to go
to Milwaukee with Whitney.

I might not be going. Good. I hope you
don't.

It's getting dark and cold. We have two
solid days together to talk about it. I

hope there's housekeeping.

If these bitches can't get themselves
together for two days, then we have way

bigger problems.

I'll see you in Milwaukee, bitch.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City.

Hello.

This is so cute here.

Red, red, red.

We are going to a seat at the Bucks
game.

Heading for the Bucks game. How are they
going to know you're Greek?

How's Jack doing?

He's just having some health problems.
Oh, sorry.

They're saying Whitney is using designs
and selling them at 10, 20 times the

price.