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Previously on The Real Half -Wives of New York City.

Well, thanks for getting a hold of me. I'm really excited about that. Oh, I was

so excited to find you because I don't know hardly anything about my family

tree. There is a part of me that's excited.

You have good matches, so possibly you could have some half -siblings.

Right. But this is like a shot in the dark.

I just got very angry recently. That's what we don't understand. I'm not a

fucking doormat. Your reactions are just like over the top, and that's what's

concerned us.

So I'm going to do an event next week.

It's actually called Black Shabbat. A Jewish Shabbat dinner?

Correct. For black people? Correct.

I mean, I hope she's not going to get on a soapbox and start preaching to us. I

don't know what to expect. Where's Leah?

Leah, sadly, was exposed potentially to COVID.

Oh, no.

So excited to have...

All of you here, we are having a jubilant Shabbat tonight.

When I went to college, the Jewish people hated me. We're not talking about

that. I'm just saying.

Right now, we're talking about the black race. Oh, I can't talk about everybody.

I wished I was born Jewish.

Ramona, are you freaking kidding me? It's okay that it's not about white

right now.

Ramona, we're not going to make it.

Ramona, baby, we're not going to make it about you and your white isolation.

Are we getting a first course of food? No, we're not doing Shabbat.

This is nuts, Leah.

Like, this is why I needed you here.

I need food.

What did they tell you to do?

I don't even understand what happened to Ramona.

I kind of regret doing this whole thing, by the way.

Why does Sonia get it?

Luann gets it. Ramona doesn't f***ing get it.

I'm just going to have a little something because I'm getting a little

Can I have this? This is my plate. I'll eat it now.

Okay, great. You know, I need food.

You know, I was running all day. That was my accountant. I did business with

real estate.

I mean, I didn't have time to eat. I really didn't eat. And we've been here

for two hours, and I know we're doing all these prayers and stuff.

And, you know, it was delicious, but I need food.

What can I say?

Sometimes when there's no food to put in my mouth, my foot goes in my mouth.

I feel like I'm being so diplomatic.

You're being so good. Honestly, I think she's very low IQ.

You know what I think?

I think we're...

Bustering the host, the hostess.

The host, your hostess. You know, they say, it used to be waiter and waitress,

and now it's just waiter. You know, it used to be like, you know, singular sex.

I mean, it gets so confusing.

Her, she, them.

You know, seriously, things have changed in this world. I'm a little older, and

I'm just, I'm learning the new world.

But right now, I'm starving.

I'm not going to expose you to this. This is a show.

Yeah, I'll call you after.

Thank you. I love you. I'll talk to you later.

Thank you. Love you.

Look, I bring you to a beautiful home with beautiful people, with beautiful

and beautiful drinks.

All you got to do is shut the hell up and enjoy.

And Ramona can't even do that.

I think I left my purse in here.

So it's like a better but better?

I left it in the other room, I think. Oh, those look good.

Oh, here it is. But you didn't add too much of it.

And then the rosé peppers are great. What are you doing?

I'm starving. I haven't eaten, like, all day long. You're kidding me. They want

to bless the bread yet. We have another hour to go.

Ramona's in the kitchen eating.

Lou, let her eat. That's fine.

What does that mean, she's in the kitchen? She's eating in the kitchen.

that hungry?

Yeah. She's a grub.

Like, thank you for making the effort. Oh, effort. I'm having a great time.

This is better than a show.

Good. I'm giggling because it's shocking and embarrassing.

I just feel very misunderstood.

Tonight wasn't even about, actually, it wasn't even about black people. This is

supposed to be about human values that we all have.

Well, everybody doesn't have them. When Ramona's hungry, the human values go out

the window.

Shocking and embarrassing leads to me giggling. I'm going to tell you, that's

how I cope.

Are you okay, baby? I don't know. I think I had a meltdown.

I had a meltdown.

Listen, listen. I didn't eat all day.

No. You haven't eaten a morsel, so you're starving. You're hungry and

No, it's hangry. Hangry. I didn't say you were hangry. Well, we're ready to

serve, right? Yeah, okay, fine. Okay. Yeah, I'm just going to make the

over the wine. Perfect.

We're not going to run the bot.

Where's Leah? She said... I don't blame her.

I'd like to bless with tequila.

Here, here. I don't think the Jews do that. Yes, they do. I'm not Jewish.

Do you belong?

Are you kidding me? I don't belong. Jew belongs to anything.

Let her do the toast. Let her do the toast. You should worry about what

saying. Can I have a little bit of a deal? Wait, wait. Just wait. Baruch atah

Adonai Eloheinu melech haolam borei prihagafen. Everybody say it with me.

Amen. Amen.

Sonia's been drinking nonstop since we got on the bus like three hours ago.

And with no food. So this is not going to be pretty.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you. You look beautiful.

Holla!

Holla! Holla!

Ebony, I feel, are you happy? Are you feeling okay? I'm good.

I just want my friends to see what we do. We do this routinely.

I mean, you know, it's hard. You know, and in many ways, maybe Ramona's

was... Accurate, because everybody doesn't get what we do, Archie. No, no,

this with my friends. A lot of my friends are Jewish, and I've gone to

and I was converted. And I would never think you were anti -Semitic, but what I

do want you to understand, though, Ramona, is the reason this is Black

is because there's a special bond and opportunity, yeah, between blacks and

Jews. It's not meant to alienate Italians or...

Scottish people or anyone else. It's just to say that in this country, we

of share a unique experience. I understand.

That's all. I get it. That's all. Thank you, Ramona, for being open to revisit

it because that's important.

Guys, I hate to do this, but I'm going to pull us back to the Shabbat. Don't

hate to do it. Don't hate to do it at all. It's a Shabbat dinner. Okay.

As I said at the beginning, Shabbat is the perfect time to do soul searching.

But for so many people, it's so hard to show their heart.

Well, show me your heart. Hold on. I'm thinking about it. I have to think about

my question. I don't want to read anymore. I want talking now. I want

conversation. I want everyone to share. Ramona, you're not running questions.

You're not running anything.

The questions about the week are on page 20. So everyone can pick one.

Okay. What makes my heart... Beat. Whoa.

More one -on -one relationships.

Yeah. More of the one -on -one. I need that. And I'm not talking about with my

girlfriends. I'm talking about my philanthropy and my message.

I'm talking about now more on a one -to -one basis for soul food. You know what

I mean? Like, I don't do the $1 ,200 ticket bull.

We raise real money for real causes that a lot of people

don't care about.

Sonia, a lot of times she has one drink too many, she gets diarrhea of the

mouth. She's like a broken record. And she doesn't let anybody else have a

chance to talk. It's annoying.

The dinners that I do don't even cover the wine.

So the wine that's donated is like, I don't know, $1 ,200 a bottle. All right,

what's the next question?

We don't have next.

Excuse me, jealous bitch.

I'm not jealous. Well, why are you cutting me off? Because you took over. A

of people have to answer the question.

You're dominating. Stop and repeat. That's great. I'm going to get to it.

Why don't you tell us what you're doing on a daily basis? Because this woman is

on the ground. She is helping people to come out of prison and get a home and a

job. What are you doing on a daily basis to help somebody?

So don't shut me up. It's okay. All right? So don't you ever shush me for my

work of faith and giving back and passion.

Never shush me. Please have some boundaries and do something for others.

Okay, Sonia, that's enough.

Wow, she's lost her mind. Is it scary? Oh, yeah, I've lost my mind. Why don't

you find one?

Find a purpose. Don't think.

Find a purpose.

Oh,

yeah, I've lost my mind. Why don't you find one?

Find a purpose.

Don't think.

Find a purpose.

Here's the thing. She needs to cool off.

Archie, don't worry about it.

She's upset.

I feel nuts, but I feel like we need to continue Shabbat.

I raised money with Michael for AIDS awareness.

These are not just...

People just socialize.

I know. But she's not doing the hard work. She's not doing the heavy lifting.

She needs to do more. And then she sits at dinner being disruptive.

She needs to get real and do the work and feel the other people. Feel other

people's pain. Stop talking about it.

I'm going to say this, and I mean it with time out on the white people for

tonight. We're going to go with the black people.

We've been segregated.

Oh, my God. Well, I'm both. I'm white.

I'm white.

We're going to hear from the culture. And we're going to go to Lenora.

What question would you like to answer? Yeah, Lenora.

When did I feel that my life was most meaningful?

Last year at this time, I gave birth to a 29 -weeker.

And I was in the NICU for 50. Wait, excuse me, time out.

You gave birth early?

Because normal is what, 40 weeks, right? It's 40 weeks.

So me and my son almost died.

Oh my God, are you serious? I had some poor medical service, as most black

experience. Do you think that the treatment that you got was because you

black? I know the treatment that I got was because I was black. Why? I have

fibroids, and I had a fibroid that was degenerating. They just didn't believe

that I was actually in as much pain as I was communicating.

And so instead, they thought that I was addicted to drugs.

What?

And then treated me, as I was asking for pain medicine for five days, that I was

trying to hurt myself and my baby.

And so because I was in pain for so long, it induced my labor.

So how would a white woman be treated differently than you? That's a good

question.

Medically. Medically. How would they have been treated? Should that have been

you? And there is a study that just came out last week that a white woman, you

would have gotten...

the pain medicine during the time frame in which you needed to in order to

manage it and get ahead of it so that that would have never happened. Well,

me tell you something. I gave birth to my daughter, and I have major pain, and

had a nurse, and she was black.

And I said, I am having so much pain, and she wouldn't believe me. She goes,

you're not having pain. I was screaming.

I'm like.

You, I need painkillers. I mean, I didn't have a second baby because of the

I had from my birth. And I was a white woman. My doctor didn't take care of my

pain. My nurse didn't take care of my pain. That's not how it usually goes.

do you think?

I'm just saying.

This is a runaway train. You jump out the window, you're doomed. If you stay

the train, you're doomed. I mean, either way, you're going to crash.

I feel like you are the most graceful.

Like everything you say is with grace.

Thank you.

Most people would have cussed Ramona the f*** out when you asked them that.

Well, I like to ask questions. I know, but it comes across.

Wait a minute, Archie. Archie, wait one second. I need to speak on this. What

Ramona doesn't realize, and I think I also have a high tolerance for Ramona's

inquisition. At some point, the questioning feels...

Adversarial. That's my personality.

I understand, but I want you to know because I do care about you, Ramona. I

question like you're the lawyer. And we talked about it. I question things.

Because I don't want you, Ramona, looking unlike your spirit. So

have to make space for the fact that when you question this woman about her

experience giving birth prematurely. No, I'm in shock that a doctor like. So

then say I'm in shock. I'm in shock. Thank you for saying that. I am in

Okay. I believe in Ramona Singer.

God help me, I believe in Ramona Singer. And I really want Ramona to understand

that what she's saying is not becoming, and I don't even think it's really her,

on a visceral level.

But I'm really about to run out of patience with Ramona's ass.

That was Lenore's answer. Now Lou's going to pick a number.

I just have one more question. Did you choose a different doctor?

Yes. Are we closing this up soon?

We're not closing it up. You can get an Uber.

It's like 9 o 'clock. I've been here for four hours. I'm tired. I'm going to go

home and sleep.

Yeah, go ahead, Ramona. Oh, my God. Things are happening here tonight. What?

Nobody that doesn't want to be here should be here. No, I'm just tired.

I understand. You should go home, Ramona. Go ahead. I get it. I'm not

anybody hostage at goddamn Black Shabbat. No. If you don't want to be

listen to the spiritual work being done, get the fuck out.

Nathan, I'm tired.

I've been studying, working.

So call me an Uber. I'm going to say goodnight, OK?

OK. I'll put you to sleep tonight.

Sorry, Archie. This is too much. You have went out of your way.

as patient as I know how to be with your f***ing friend Ramona. You don't want

to do the work? Get the f*** out. Don't blame her on me.

I don't know what's going on. Do you really want to leave?

Is this you trying to undermine this evening and what it's about?

Or are you just too damn selfish to appreciate what is in front of you?

Bitch, bye.

I mean, if I wasn't tired, I'd stay for another hour, but I'm tired. And you

know what? I have to listen to my body.

I appreciate that. It was already an hour and a half drive to get there. I've

been there for over three hours. Even weddings don't last more than three or

four hours. And this isn't a wedding.

Well, I'm leaving in a couple of minutes. Oh, you're going to take an

Yeah, I'm tired.

You came and you participated, which is what I appreciate.

Yeah, well, I was going to answer the question, what would I like to change

about myself? To be more filtered.

More what? More filtered.

Oh, more filtered. Because sometimes I say things.

Okay, guys, guys.

But Marla's going to leave us probably a few minutes early, but she wants to

offer her answer first.

If I could change one thing about myself, what would it be? Oh, I love

To be less unfiltered. I sometimes speak without thinking. I didn't mean to

insult anybody tonight. I know I did. I'm sometimes like a two -year -old. I'm

trying to get better.

I know I'm not perfect, but no, that's what I like to change. And I want to

still be honest and say how I feel.

But sometimes I don't think about other people's feelings, and I don't take in

what they're saying before I jump on what I'm feeling and thinking. Oh, wow,

well said. Have you always been like that, even when you were a kid? I was

worse. I've gotten better. No, you're much better.

You don't understand.

Yeah, they say she's better.

She's much better.

No, much better. I still got to get better.

I got to get better.

Ramona's come such a long way, and I thought we exhausted all that bad

So I don't get why he's here.

I heard that you never go out without.

Is that really true? That's like so strange.

At least I have friends. You have no friends. You have nobody in your life.

Right now you have Jason. You'll probably mess that up too.

143 something.

114. Don't you think you should have written it down so you remember so you

don't have to ask me again?

You knew that if Reed was coming down here it was because I have a huge

problem and it would be to get me on the plane. No, you're missing a point.

Don't yell at me.

You're in the press now being naked and doing soft porn.

Has anybody approached your daughter? Have you explained to her the situation?

At six? Yeah, she got approached. No, I'm asking.

You look old for your age and I look young for my age and that's how it

You are a bitch.

Why did I say that was so mean? I'm just amazed that she still had this kind of

behavior in her. We want to acknowledge that you had the self -awareness to say

that. I'm construing that as a bit of an apology to Lenara. I apologize. About

her experience.

Yeah. And that's good. I apologize for losing it on you because you know I love

you like family. And family does that. Y 'all go ahead and do that. They just do

that. You know, family does that. No, I'm serious.

They need to do that. No, I'm not going for it. God damn thing I'm saying.

You have come so far.

I'm in every word. You really have come so far. I love you.

But you have so far to go still. I'm so grossed out right now.

I'm always there for Ramona no matter what. She has a soft place to fall. And

maybe she learned something tonight. But I'm not happy about what transpired.

She eats and she's done.

Yeah, she was hungry.

She was a f***ing c***. She ate.

Then she was less of a c*** but still a c***.

Coming up.

Ramona and I are night and day and yet we're very aligned.

It's very weird. And I never met someone that I bonded with so fast. I wouldn't

say that you were like Ramona, but okay. No, we are.

No Avery, no Coco.

I'm home alone.

Good thing I like myself.

Hey, good morning.

Hi. I was just talking about you to myself.

You were talking to yourself?

Yeah.

How's that going?

It's going.

I mean, usually I talk to.

It's hot in here.

Really? I'll open the window.

Really? Because I'm always hot and I feel fun. But let me open the window for

you.

Yeah. It's warm in here.

How are you doing? Oh, my gosh. This view. You know, you can never get enough

this view.

I don't think Ramona even has a clue that she was like over the top rude to

many people last night.

And, you know, I'm not here to pour gasoline on the fire.

I'm here to, you know, help her figure out how she's going to stand back up.

That was quite the night.

As soon as Sonya went nuts on me, I just, like, blocked it in. I know, but

not the first time she went nuts on you. She started saying really disgusting

things, and I think she's just talking about herself. I think she's projecting.

I do think it's...

sometimes a reflection of what's going on on the inside when people do that. I

feel like I'm watching a train wreck. I feel like she's on a train and I know

she's going to crash. I know. And there's nothing we can do.

Sonia at this point has no regard for people's feelings, people's property,

most importantly, no regard for herself, the way she's acting. I love Ramona.

Deflect. Let's keep the focus on somebody else like Sonia and not myself.

Have you spoken to Ebony?

Yeah, I did.

I mean, I did. First of all, let me just give you my opinion before I hear even

what Ebony said.

First of all, it was so rude.

And I'm being totally honest with you. Oh, I was starving. I'm sorry. I

understand. I was there for two hours. You have to reel it in and go, oh, my

God, am I being rude? And I should probably get back to it. I said, can I

get something to eat? Because I'm really hungry. I haven't eaten all day. They

brought out all those appetizers. That wasn't enough for me. I was still

starving. If I don't get my food. Listen, then you go and make a snack in

kitchen, you get back to the table. I mean, you're actually, you had a whole,

like, meal. No, I didn't. I just had the corn. I went past the kitchen to get a

Diet Coke, and I saw you had a full plate of food. So, come on.

You know what? I had too much to eat. drink i admit it well you've done things

on drinking so you know what don't throw it out on me now and attack me for my

mistakes that i've made because that's i'm saying i don't need to apologize to

you you don't have to apologize to me i apologize i'm not looking for an apology

i'm looking for you to be aware of course i'm aware i called ebony first

in the morning and i said i'm sorry about what i did i had too much to drink

tired i had it was nine o 'clock You go out dancing.

Not anymore, not the past week. Not anymore, no, but still.

Not the past week. No.

But the past week I've been in bed every night at 9 o 'clock, 9 .30.

If she's not dizzy, she's hungry. And if she's not hungry, she has to pee.

I mean, there's one excuse after the other why she excuses herself from

typically Ebony's parties.

And my lesson I've learned now, I'm never, ever, ever, mark my words, I'm

going to drink on an empty stomach.

You're funny.

Can you please bring the cheese and wine up for Ebony so we're ready? Okay,

yeah. Do you have any clothes on? What?

You know me, I hate pants.

You have no pants on? No pants.

Is that part of the fashion forecast for next year?

I just started to wear proper grown woman dresses that come to the knee. Now

you're telling me we're not wearing pants at all, just the top?

Millennial, okay?

Oh, millennials, not boomers.

Lady Morgan.

Hi, Ebony. Hi. I'm dying to meet you. I'm Christy. Christy, you're lovely.

Ebony. You have no idea.

Everyone heard you were coming.

Hey, baby.

I met beautiful Miss Emma. You finally met Emma. Oh, she's gorgeous.

I'm dying to meet you. I don't think last night went the way Archie and Ebony

planned, but the thing about Ebony is she has this quality where she can

something with you in a very calm manner without being accusatory.

At this dinner last night, I want to apologize, really, for losing it,

was going through this emotional thing. That's not you.

I think you were the one who needed to talk. You two have such a deep 30 -year

sisterhood, and I know you both love each other dearly, but it's a little

you know? That's why I said. But I don't want her walking all over me in front

of people I don't know. I know, baby, and that's why you need to go to her.

She's putting out the wrong narrative. And you controlled it. I think that

back to Martin, you know, he...

struck a chord in you, and I've seen a difference that I love, which is you are

not letting people run over you. What does the land call you? A slut, a one

-night stand.

If I call you a stupid slut, that's how hard you're going to throw?

Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You are not letting other

people tell your story. So when Ramona started doing that last night, you were

like, no, ah, and you corrected the narrative, but I want you two to do that

maybe over.

lunch or dinner, intimate, loving, but get her, say what you need to say to

you know, so that you don't snap like you did last night. Well, I need that

because you don't have, you don't act like that in front of mixed company.

No, and you know better, Sonia. I'm proud that Mission Sonia Stand Up For

Yourself has been successful. I really am. But sis, there's a measure to these

things, right?

Cheers to controlling the narrative and self -control. So we're going to try to

work to find where that Sweet spot is where Sonia does stand up for herself.

makes it very clear what she will and will not take and stand for, but also

like some basic social graces, we'll call them.

Now, you, my love. Yeah, and now about me.

I have to curse you out because why did Archie call me this morning and tell me?

You might not even remember this. Do you know you peed in Archie's driveway last

night? Yes, I did. At the back of the bus.

How you been? I'm just going to pee behind the bus. I'll be over here.

Sonia, come on.

Sonia. Holy.

I had to pee like a rice horse.

I had to pee so bad.

You all were in there. But we peed before we left, because I know I can't

it till New York either, baby. I got to tell you, I have done things like that

before. Peed wherever.

This is horrible!

They don't want pee on their corn!

Wait, Sonia, be careful! You couldn't hold it until we got out. It's not my

proudest moment peeing behind the van, but if I had gone into the restroom,

Luann would have left without me.

Sonia, you are a woman of such elegance and class. Stop it, Marley. I'm mad at

you. Marley, you've ate the whole damn board. Yeah, you ate more than me. We

didn't eat anything. No, Marley ate it all. Marley, get the hell out of here.

Yeah, we're talking to you.

And by the way, I'm going to talk to Ramona. She did call me today to

because she knows she was a hot -ass mess.

Everything was designed to make all of y 'all comfortable, and she was a show.

And you were great, and Lou was great, and it was fun. Well, you were half

great.

I got to the van, and I was like, okay, I'm going to pee.

Pee, baby.

I feel bad because I know Leah likes to see us. I know. I missed her at Shabbat.

Oh, God, I missed her at Shabbat. I was like, I was missing my finger.

Having her at Shabbat is so important.

Oh, Jesus, is he humping your arm? Marley's humping my arm. You're like any

other guy. You have your stomach full, and now you're ready to have sex. Right!

Isn't that funny how men are? As soon as they eat dinner, they want sex. Marley,

you get full and humping.

Yeah. Usually, I hump Ramona's dog. You didn't bring your dog. Oh, yeah. I can't

wait for these two to meet.

Thank God I got her fixed.

Coming up.

So I'm sitting there the first six months, no court date.

Which is unconstitutional.

No, no, no. 17 years old.

Ramona. No. Hello. No.

Darling, I'm in a hoot.

Where are you?

I know, right? It could be Colorado. It could be Switzerland.

Look at this.

Isn't it cool?

Isn't it great?

We miss you.

I'm honestly really, really starting to fall apart.

Oh, babe, don't fall apart. You're almost through it. You're almost there.

Who are you having dinner with?

I'm meeting up with the Fortune Society ladies.

Ebony and Ramona are coming.

Sonia, I don't know where Sonia is.

After the poop settles and I started plunging it, it turned into poop soup.

Yeah. When you get the poop soup and you plunge it and it goes on the floor,

that's really bad.

Hi, my love. Oh, look who's here.

Oh, Lily.

Hi. Hi, baby. Look how naked you are.

Look how naked I am.

She's so naked. And we're in, like, turtle legs in the middle of this alpine

lodge. It's really cute, though. Isn't it sweet? It's milk. I love it. It's in

our neighborhood. It's, like, our go -to.

I thought maybe it would be nice to be isolated for two weeks, but I'm actually

having a little bit of FOMO and miss the ladies.

How is Ramona? How's Sonia? How's everybody?

I mean, I don't even know.

Oh, well, I mean.

Well,

I mean, Ramona's coming tonight, so we'll soon find out how Ramona is. And

couldn't come, so I don't know why.

If you leave the water, the poop.

Disagree. I talked to Sonya over the weekend. She was doing well.

Why would I pay for someone to plunge my toilet naked?

Oh, my God, I want to poop. I feel so good.

Hey, baby. Look who just walked in the door.

Wow, you're very elegant for our little chalet over here. Well, you know, you

did such, I have to say, I had so much fun doing that video.

I know last time I didn't want to do it when you did it years ago, but had I

known I had that much fun, I should have done it. Your hair looks pretty. Thank

you. You too. You look lovely.

It's typical Ramona. You know, after she's burned down the house, it's like,

let's be nice.

Let's make a grand entrance. Grand gestures, compliments.

There, she's very good.

She looks great.

So, okay, we're talking about Sonia and how we feel like there was so much venom

and bad.

Oh, I sent her a text.

You sent her a text?

So I wrote, Sonia, do you remember all the very nasty comments you made to me

the Black Shabbat?

You really hurt my feelings terribly.

And she didn't get back to you? Well, I only sent it like an hour ago. Oh, okay.

And it'll probably take her three days to look at it. No, I know. My food just

got here. I got to go, guys. Okay. Bye, guys.

Bye, honey. Bye, baby. The last thing I want to hear about is like Ramona

gaslighting Sonia. So I'm out.

We just got a mask. Out of work just now. Thanks for having us.

The ladies from Fortune and I have known each other the last couple of years.

We have 80 beds in here for people transitioning, men and women. Men in

coming out of prison, getting their life together.

Look at this team of people waiting for you girls.

I love you.

Thank you. It always brightens my day when I see their faces because they're

such wonderful people and such good women. How many people are living in the

facility right now?

Well, I came home in 2007 and I lived at the castle. When I was there, there

were 56 men and three women. Oh, my goodness. I was one of the women. Wow.

was good odds or bad odds? I'm not sure.

That depends. That depends.

There you go. Yeah, Ramona.

But, you know, now I know there's maybe more than like 100 beds in there now.

It's grown over the years. How old were you when you went in?

I had just turned 17 years old.

I was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Someone got shot, and I was there.

I didn't go inside of the building, but I was outside of the building.

So what they end up convicting you of?

Conspiracy. Oh, my God.

So somebody was harmed.

Conspiracy, from a legal point of view, is when you are aware.

And you weren't aware.

So conspiracy is like if you have knowledge of it.

And you're not participating.

Two weeks later, I never reported anything, news articles. At some point,

did know that someone died. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is, girl, a hot mess. Just shut

the hell up.

We've seen this movie before.

So now I'm sitting in Rikers Island.

There's always a glitch in the Rikers Island system, so it said my next court

date was December 31st, 20 -90 -90 -90 -90 -99. So I'm sitting there the first

six months, no court date.

Which is unconstitutional.

17 years old. Ramona. No, hello, no.

Where is the radar that Ramona was not born with, which says do not speak now?

So I'm sitting there the first six months, no court date.

But to make the very... Which is unconstitutional. You're sitting in

yeah, I'm sitting in Rikers.

17 years old.

Ramona. No, I really have to pay attention to this.

So they have no court date, and they're making you stay there for like forever.

I believe they have 90 days. Do they give you bail?

No. It's a murder charge.

Multiple cold defendants. But you didn't murder anybody. You just heard about it

down the road. That's not how the law works, Ramona.

Well, okay, you've got to change the law. This is not good. I don't like

These questions Ramona's asking and just her lack of awareness and knowledge on

the issue is a little like, why would she know? We don't talk about this stuff

enough. So I think Ramona in this moment is indicative of a lot of Americans.

Oh, my God. So I didn't have too many options. But a lot of people see murders

and they don't talk about it, I mean, I think, or know about it. They think

hearsay or whatever. So I don't... Okay, I'm just a little... Fortunately, the

system sucks.

And I had to settle with three and a half years prison time. You pled guilty.

pled guilty.

Mm -hmm.

It's important to hear all of these stories to make sure that more people

the knowledge and can have, you know, more empathy and understanding when it

comes to these issues.

My first prison sentence, I went up.

I wasn't ready. I know I had reservations. I came back down. I

back up again. When I came home, I knew everything was going to be different.

You know, what my downfall was, was...

that, you know, I used to have blackouts all the time.

I used to be able to call somebody and tell me what I did. You know, and they'd

say, oh, Vilma, this is what you did. And I'd say, oh, okay, okay, okay. I

want to hear it. I don't want to hear it.

But this time, the last thing I remember was 9 o 'clock. I woke up the next day.

There was drugs. There was money. And I still don't know to this day what

happened to me. And that was it. That's your wake -up call. That was your

bottom. You've got to get to the bottom. I did five and a half years in prison.

And still, it took that moment to realize this can't be my life. This

Can I ask your girlfriend something?

Like, let's say you have a friend that you really love. And you see her going

down like the rabbit hole. How do you, like, try to, like, help her? Oh, gosh.

I'm not naming names. I'm asking you questions. I know.

The thing is, you can try your best, but it has to come from them. You can be

there, you can support them.

Yeah, just let them know that the door is always open, but you have to let them

go to their own problems.

Like I said, it wasn't till the rock bottom.

That's the problem. Even if you say to her, you know, oh, you did this, you did

that, you left with the guy, you forgot the caviar. I would be mortified.

And Sonia is not mortified. Sonia's like, oh, no, ha, ha, ha.

In order for her to do something about it, she has to realize what's really

happening. You've got to hit bottom. I don't want her to go to the rock bottom.

That's the problem.

Yes, she beats up on me. Yes, she verbally abuses me. Yes, she makes up

about me.

But I'm not giving up on her, and I don't want her to hit rock bottom. I

don't want her to. There might be something that's just there that maybe

hasn't spoken to you guys about. She might be fighting a bigger battle within

herself. And she's numbing.

Sonia's numbing.

She's numbing her. But she's been doing this for 10 years. And that's the part

that you do.

No. I can't.

No, you can't say that. Listen, I don't like the way you act in Shabbat, but I

like you, Ramona. And I don't want, that is unfair to put on yourself.

No, I agree.

Yeah. Sonia is accountable to herself, and all we can do as friends, and all

Ramona can do as a best friend, is love and support her friend. That's it.

to be gone two hours ago, but I can't leave these women. I know, right? I

Aren't they the best? No, I can't. I'm so glad. I can't remember how much fun

we're having. I'm supposed to be in an interview with somebody right now. Oh,

well.

Awesome. Okay.

To be honest, I just love this, and I'm actually having a really good

conversation with Ramona.

Oh, good. I am. We always do. We do.

We do.

Ramona and I are night and day, and yet we're very aligned.

Yeah. It's very weird.

Yeah, and I never met someone that I bonded with so fast. I wouldn't say that

you were like Ramona, but okay. No, we are.

But you see some things that are, like, uncannily similar, don't you? No. Like

your body type?

No, beyond the superficial, though. No. Your shoe size?

No, no.

I'm trying to think what else. You're not that mind -deaf as we are? I'm not

mind -deaf? What does that mean?

mean what's mine well don't don't think i understand

what you're even talking about because i don't know what mind depth is we like

we we have this brain thing going on the mind thing it's like it's surprising to

me yeah i want to be mad at you but i can't thank you thank you thank you

thank you for coming and looking pretty and then being a hot mess love you

anyway though

Coming. Kiki.

Hi.

Oh my God, my baby.

Hi.

I miss you.

I like your hair. Thank you. You look adorable.

You look so cute. Is this a new jacket?

I got it with Skylar.

This is nice, too.

You guys got all dressed up for me, I see.

I quarantined for two weeks. I'm all good.

I'm very excited to see Kiki.

I'm going to my room. Okay, you go to your room. And as much as I love Rob,

probably never been this happy to see him.

I want to make sure that we're on the same page with the school stuff.

Okay. Like, all the schools that we're looking at are like, she'll have a good

experience, you know? I mean, she'll have a lot of opportunities. She'll have

whole different experience than she did, you know?

Yeah, I mean... Isn't that exciting?

Real talk, like, you know, $60 ,000, you know. I think, like, you know, the

money is a bit crazy for a kid to go to high school at college prices.

Honestly, like, this is, like, why I work my... This is why we work our ass

to give her opportunities.

Some of this is very elitist and I'm not completely comfortable with it. But at

the same time, we have to separate that and think about the education that Keir

is going to be getting. The private school application process, when you

and read things about it being so competitive, it's not an over

If I did not hire someone to help me with this process, there's no way that I

could do this on my own. She's a smart kid. I don't really worry about her at

all. Crazy.

I don't know how she ended up like this.

They want to know what boards I'm on. I'm not on the board of anything.

There's no hospital wings named after me.

I'm a little in over my head.

It's all good. Yeah, I'm tired too. I'm going to get going.

Okay. All right, well, until the next time.

Do you mind if I just sit here and not see you out? No.

Are you going to be, don't be offended.

I'll be fine. Okay.

I'm going to say goodbye to Keir.

Goodbye, miss.

Love you. Love you.

Make sure your mother behaves.

Coming up... Ultimately, your DNA results were enough for me to then

determine...

Girl, you know Carrie's going to her lap.

Come on in.

How you doing?

Good.

Oh, hey, Carrie.

She's so crazy.

Did you see Katie?

No. Yeah, Grandma arrived.

Get out of here.

Like, I've never seen an urn in person. Me neither.

She was a small lady, but she filled this whole thing up. Oh, my goodness.

Grandma, can you be with me always?

Wow. It's really nice. Today feels like a combination of the first day of

school, Christmas, and the SATs. Cheers. Cheers.

I'm a bundle of nerves today with Linda coming to give me her news.

You said agenda what? Okay, so yes. Her name is Linda. She came to the house a

few weeks ago. If I could find out who my father is, great.

If I could find out who some, even half siblings are.

Great. Just anything that gives me a broader sense of who I am.

So what do you think she's going to come back and say?

I don't think she's going to be like, Ebony, I know your dad. I think that's

like a big ask.

I'm excited, but I'm nervous because depending on what she tells me, here's

another thing I now will need to process.

Okay.

Here's Linda. You going to answer the door, Carrie?

Child, this year has been like the most.

Oh, my goodness.

Starting the year, planning a wedding and planning a marriage, ending my

engagement, getting sick, thank God, recovering from COVID. And now here

Linda with more good news. I just can't wait.

All right. So you had tested an ancestor DNA.

And ultimately, your DNA results were enough for me to then determine that

are three candidates for your father.

They're all brother.

They're all brother.

So it's from the same family line. Wait, one of these three men is my dad? Is

that what you're telling me? I am almost certain of it. What?

Wait, wait, wait.

She's like, no grades over that. Wait, I need to just give you something.

Go process, yeah.

This is crazy.

It's exciting, yeah. And these men are alive?

Yes, they are.

Holy.

I know.

I have a dad.

Yes, you do.

You do.

Oh, my God. No, this is nuts. Yeah. This is so crazy.

So, the man who I believe to be out of the three brothers to be your father.

but you have one that you think is. I do. Just based on his age. He's born in

1957. Your mother's born in 1960.

Okay. That's close. That's very close. Yeah. The other brother is born in 1951.

Okay. And then the other brother, he's born in 1939.

So, although. Oh, which is probably not him. No. But he would have been.

If he's anything like me, might be.

Like a good 20 years older. Go ahead, though.

Let's see. In 1944,

so that's not out of the realm of possibility. Definitely not. And the one

believe is your father, he is married, and he has two daughters.

Oh, God.

It's okay. This is a lot.

Yeah, no, it is.

I don't even think I was prepared for this. I told Natalie before you came, I

was like, maybe some cousins, maybe, like, at best, um.

Like an aunt or uncle.

The youngest daughter bears a very strong resemblance to you, as does your

who I believe is your father.

I think I hadn't even allowed myself to entertain the possibility that I had a

dad who was still alive.

And, well,

thank you.

I'm so, so happy that I can help.

Oh, God.

This is a lot.

And it's all extremely wonderful.

This is literally the best case scenario that could have happened. She found

him. He's alive.

Amazing. And I have sisters. I'm going to show you the picture.

Okay. Yeah.

He's cute.

He's an attractive man.

He even has that roundness to his face like I do. You know, those cheeks.

Yeah.

But I want to sit with it for a beat before I start opening up a million new

boxes. I want to just be really happy that I have a dad and just kind of bask

that truth for the first time in my entire life.

It's beautiful.

And like the fact that this man who is my dad is alive.

And like after the new year, I get to do the exciting work of potentially.

That's what I was telling her.

2021 will be a year of renewal.

Good man. Thank you.

Yay!

Next time on The Real Housewives of New York City. In high school, if I hadn't

gotten mixed up with clubs, I could have been a star athlete. I could have gone

to probably Ivy League college. That's what happens when you get involved with

drugs. Mom.

Mmm. Isn't that good? Yum.

Doña Rita, how are you, honey? You look so pretty.

We did a test last night for COVID and... She's so fine that she was

wasted yesterday when I spoke to her on the phone.

Are you serious?

Yeah, I love you.

Bye. Oh, my God. I speak so much about Luann, and I love her so much. I can

you. You ready to play Pin the Tail on Harry?

Oh, shit. Are you kidding me? My God.

I feel like it's disrespectful for Harry. He's my friend. He's not your

He's my ex -boyfriend who cheated on me and stole my friend.