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Previously on The Real Housewives of New York City.
Ramona was talking with me about how she does not like the way I talk about sex.
But I don't subscribe to the fact that to use those words mean you're unclassy.
Yeah, but it has nothing to do with class. It has to do with education.
Well, no, that has nothing to do with education either. I just tried to
it. No, I gotta clear this up. Uh -uh. Why are you getting so angry? Oh, so now
I'm the angry black woman, Luann.
The term angry, when referencing a black woman, it's got a long, stereotypical
history.
I'm really sorry that happened.
Lou, make yourself comfortable.
It's election night. We have to make it fun. I mean, God knows, you know. Are
you coming to the party tomorrow?
Yeah. Unite in Harlem with yours truly, Ebony K. Williams.
Ramona posted you on Instagram. She also posted a picture of her new friend,
Bershon. Are y 'all telling me that Ramona is posting pictures of black
her life to counter a narrative that she's racist?
Of all my vices, being glamorous is one I'll never give up.
I'm sex positive and BS negative.
I may say the wrong thing, but my intentions are always right.
I've had to work twice as hard for half as much, but now I'm coming for
everything.
Just like New York City, Sonia Morgan never goes out of time.
All right, P, you ready?
Whenever you are, my dear.
Come on, baby. Let's go get our hair done.
Ooh, do I have ponytail options?
You do. This won't work because this is this wavy texture.
Yeah, but it's like a loose wave.
No, no, I want to do that.
No, but I'm excited about tonight. I'm excited to, you know, bring these women
to Harlem. Some of them are coming for the first time. Ramona says she's
bringing her friend, Breshawn.
I have this lovely girl. Her name is Breshawn.
I've gotten really friendly with her, and I bring her with me because I have
plans with her that night. I just talked to the restaurant owner, and I said,
bring two extra place settings because some of my friends might want a plus
I think you're going to really like each other. Some of these ladies, they're in
their Upper East Side bubble.
Hope that they will think Harlem and the people of Harlem and the culture of
Harlem is worth the slight inconvenience of pushing outside of your little five
block radius.
That's what I hope.
You know, I've got this, which is very Harlem nights.
I love the bell sleeve and it's also very pandemic where uncomfortable.
I know Harlem just almost as a tourist. I'm so lazy. I always stay in my own
neighborhood.
And if I can't walk there, you'd have to drag me there or send a car service.
And Leah wears God knows what. So I could show up in anything.
I could even wear this.
This thing is amazing.
Hi. Oh, hey. So I'm like, I've got like dresses laid out for this Harlem Nights
thing. So what are you wearing? I'm wearing...
You said you're wearing satin green. It's so funny. I have a satin green
here, so I'm going to put that away.
You know, I used to go to Harlem quite a bit. Jack and I were living on the
Upper West Side, so we weren't far from Harlem, really. We used to go up there
all the time to Sylvia's and go dancing. You know, I'm a fan. Oh, Jesus. I've
got long dresses, but they have very big slits.
on the other side.
Yeah, that's easy. Yeah, because I have, like, heels and shoes and things.
Hello, hello, hello, beautiful.
Hi. Oh.
You look very shimmery.
Oh, your pants kind of match my dress. Yes, they do. Cool.
Look at you. You rocked it. Every time I see you, you're in six -inch heels.
I met Breshawn through some mutual friends during the summer. We started
out. She's a strong personality. I mean, she's like... She's there, and she's
not afraid to make her opinion known, which I like. You said you've never been
to Harlem.
Okay, so this is it, darling. Yeah, this is it. So it took Ebony and you to
bring me here. Wow.
It's always the first time for everything.
Usually New Yorkers, you just stay within your region. Why didn't you go to
their housewarming party?
It's in Brooklyn.
Where do you think Brooklyn is? Ohio?
I don't live in Harlem, so I never go down there.
Do you know the funniest thing you ever told me? Oh, no, what? Put my foot in my
mouth again. You said, okay.
I love your lashes, but they're a little too long for the daytime.
Oh, right.
I know.
I know.
That's because, you know, when I really like someone. But that's when I really
realized I am with this girl.
I really did. I like you. With the lashes, without the lashes, I just like
I love it.
So beautiful in here.
Adrienne, you did it. Flowers are so perfect.
It's like we're transported in time. Of course. This is beautiful, baby. Thank
you for realizing this vision.
So I'm coming off of a massive dose of these women's world, right? Like
that weekend in the Hamptons at Ramona's house, literally on her turf.
Now it's time for them to come to my world. And there is no better place for
them to get into the epicenter of Black culture and Black excellence.
Then Harlem, USA. And who is this lovely gentleman?
Oh, this is Gil.
I'm Gil. Gil.
Gil. Oh, I heard the accent. You know, tonight is a Harlem night with Ebony K.
Williams. Adrienne and me, we created for you guys amazing cocktails.
Good. To make you feel Harlem. Go back a little bit in time, you know? The
spirit and the elegance.
Prohibitionary. Hey, Nick!
You just snuck up in here. Hey, baby. How are you?
Beautiful. This is gorgeous, huh? This is one of the few actual real
still left in Harlem. It is.
It is true that you had to knock on this at one point, right? At one point. The
password. Oh, my God. These look like a death sentence.
Are you kidding me? Oh, my God.
I love a speakeasy. Always have.
Hi. Hey, gorgeous. Sorry to interrupt.
So this is my friend, Leah.
Hi, Leah. You're gorgeous.
Welcome. Oh, my God. Look at you. Thank you, honey.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
Meet Handsome Gil, who's from Israel.
Are you kidding me? All right. Can we do one more of these Harlem Spritz from
Miss Lou? What is in that?
Love and happiness.
Love and happiness.
Love and happiness? And no alcohol. And no alcohol. Okay, good.
I'm not going to be able to get out of here. I'm going to spend the night here.
No kidding.
Wouldn't be the first time.
Oh, this is delicious. Isn't this great? Thank you. Miss Morgan's here.
Hey, baby.
Hi.
Look at you. You're wearing like a tiara thing.
I see headlights.
I didn't realize Ebony even had those headlights.
She's so lawyered up all the time. And prim and proper, the fact she's taking
the girls out tonight means a lot.
I sound like a stoner. All right.
Let me see my girl, Lou, because I know she's always going to dress.
Is there an elevator? Hold your heels, girl.
Lordy. Is this Giovanni? Of course. Okay, yeah. I got to go on my tiptoes.
Come on. Oh, here comes Singer.
No one warned me about the heel situation.
Huh?
Oh, my God. I've heard so much about you. I know. She's told me so much about
you. Yes.
Oh, my God.
Okay. I love this.
Thank you. You look amazing. Yes. I mean, no sequence.
I know. I love it. Guys, this is Ramona's from Breshawn. Oh, hi,
beautiful. Oh, I love this outfit. Oh, thank you. I give hugs. How are you?
Good. Hi, beautiful. I heard so many great things about you. From Ramona?
Yes. I mean, amazing stuff.
about Ramona and I is when we're with other people, we do talk really well
each other and we stick up for each other.
But that doesn't mean I haven't talked better within our group. Okay, ladies, I
know some people are hungry, so we're going to get our mythology class
We've got three choices to pick from for cocktails.
Okay. Ebony step. I do like the Saint Germain and the champagne.
You do? Yeah.
We'll start with the ebony stuff.
Okay, so we prepared you here.
It's a very cool gin. It's a Mediterranean gin. I infused it with a
Asia that turns it into, it's like floral, ladies. Ladies, I'm going to
you. Exactly.
I'm sorry.
We're messing up in class.
Well, cheers for bringing us here. Cheers, thank you. Thank you, ladies.
We just had a long day, so I needed a shot.
I think America's had a long day. Oh, yes.
Yes. The elephant in the room is that we're 24 hours after the election
and we really still don't know who our next president is going to be. Does
somebody have a phone with them? Yeah, I do. I want Gil to take a quick photo
before we go up, if that's okay. Watch out. Ramona's going to whip that phone
out. I appreciate that.
Thank you, Gil.
Let's get here. I love that drink. I don't know. This kind of bothers me that
it's white and black.
Coming up.
I'm feeling a little tired, so I may, like, leave.
Is that vertigo again? How'd you know?
I know. Oh, my God.
You know me so well. It's scary.
What is vertigo? I'll show you. You're going to show us your vertigo?
This kind of bothers me that it's white and black.
Can we mix?
What difference does it make? But you know what? She's right. We're trying to
have a night of cultural infusion. That's the point.
So you know what? I'm going to go with it.
It's very telling that Ramona even is noticing this, you know, and is all
of a sudden the anti -segregation police making strides. And can you be kind
enough to do up and down stuff better for Instagram?
Up and down. We go up and down.
Maybe Sonia Morgan was on to something. Maybe with Ramona it is all about the
gram.
I can
see Ramona's on her best behavior when she's like
this.
So this is the owner, Adrian.
Adrian, this place is so beautiful.
I'm a virgin to Harlem because I don't think you call Rayos really Harlem.
So it's my first time. And what's your first name?
Fatima. Fatima? Fatima. With an F. Yeah, Fatima.
Rayos is like East Harlem. It's an Italian restaurant. Baby, I'm bringing
Harlem. Harlem, Harlem. Okay, ladies, this is a Harlem night with Ebony K.
Williams. Let's go. Let's be seated. She loves her name. I know.
Ramona's here.
Sonia. Sonia Tremont Morgan.
Lou.
Fabulous, Ebony. Thank you, Ms. Bershon.
Oh, this is gorgeous. So pretty.
Welcome to Harlem. We're going to start with my favorite thing.
Natalie knows this. My love language is gift.
So I'm going to present each of you with a gift. Leah, my dear.
Thank you. And you can open this right now.
I love this.
Oh, my God. A candle? I love candles.
Essence of Roses and Sandalwood inspired by James Baldwin.
I'm obviously very deeply indebted and in love with Harlem culture, but I'm,
know, going to give grace to the fact that these women might not be as
I'm giving Lou Savoy.
Ooh. Stomping at the Savoy because our countess went in the cabaret.
So I give every woman a particular individual candle from Harlan Candle
Amazing. With her infamous Upper East Side townhouse, you are, my dear,
the brownstone candle.
Harlan, a lot of.
Harlan got the brownstone.
It's based off of how they show up.
in this culture and in this world, and I hope they can appreciate it. Ramona. I
think we're going to make great cocktails and friendship together.
You, my dear, are getting the speakeasy candles.
I love that. Well, thank you.
I'm a sucker for candles.
Welcome, baby.
Hi, guys. Nice to see you. Hi.
Good to see you. Am I here?
Okay, ladies.
Miss Fossum is going to take drink orders. Food's already in the works.
course will literally be out in five minutes.
Can I just have a sparkling water?
What do we do with this and this? Whatever you want. baby you want to put
your hair you want to um what can i get for you to drink ladies now that our
orders are in each of you have been assigned a particular icon from the
renaissance and as you might imagine it's been with intention i learned in
hamptons most of these women know zero um about the true authentic black story
live and breathe this stuff i have an academic background in it
Let me tuck in my breasts. Hold on. They look amazing.
I'm Josephine Baker because Josephine is the originator of my mantra and my
book, Pretty Powerful.
Josephine Baker had her fabulous breasts naked for the world to see to get the
attention of the world. And you know what she did with it? She spoke at the
March on Washington. She was sure to never perform in segregated audiences.
She turned that aesthetic into power.
So obviously, I and Josephine Baker.
Obviously. Leah Gott, she's James Baldwin this evening. James Baldwin was
eloquent, beautiful, queer truth teller. I like that you are a straight shooter,
Leah McSweeney, and so you, my dear, are James Baldwin tonight. I'm not worthy,
but thank you. Yeah. Next up, Nat.
So, Ebony, she feels, I'm sure, a responsibility to do this.
Nat's getting W .B. Du Bois, also pronounced Du Bois.
And it's not about having fun for her or us, even though that's what we're used
to. It's really about teaching.
He was the first black man to get a Ph .D. from Harvard.
And he said, I assure you, the pleasure was all Harvard's.
But I'm pretty sure the women are not into history.
Miss Luann, what's up?
My dear, you're Billie Holiday. For very obvious reasons.
For very obvious reasons.
The voice of Harlem, the voice of the Renaissance.
It's an honor to be assigned Billie Holiday, but, you know, I'm just feeling
like, let's get things moving.
Where's the food?
Where's the music?
This is not the Harlem I'm used to.
Lady Sonia Morgan, you are Zorl Mill Hurston. I look at Ebony as a
That's what she does. She is a speaker.
She's a broadcaster. Of course she's going to suck the air out of the room
take the moment to speak her word.
If you don't like it, you better not show up, because that's what you're
to get.
So I assigned you the most prolific writer of the Harlem Renaissance, Zora
Hurston. I'm feeling this is very informative, but I thought we were just
for dinner.
Miss Ramona, my fellow tastemaker, you are Duke Ellington this evening.
Wow. I like learning new things, but I wish then she gave me a whole, like, an
agenda. A musician, a composer, the leader of the, that's kind of the image
think of Duke Ellington with his white tugs.
Cocktails, one hour.
invoking Nella Larson tonight, who's a lesser known icon.
History class, one hour.
Nurse, librarian.
Nurse. Shout out to nurses, Lou. Exactly.
Dinner, an hour.
She's got multiple ethnicities going on. Did you just eat my little one? I'm
starving. All right, we've had enough. Can we just eat now and just we'll get
back to this like tomorrow or next week?
She ate my sandwich. I'm starving. I couldn't help it. Here.
Ebony's losing some of her students.
I also am not sure how she's not seeing that this is, like, not going great.
I love this, like, really showing our history, our culture, because we get
of brushed over. Thank you, Queen. We're one nation. Like, I'm tired of this
whole divided, you know, we're white girls from the Upper East Side, you're
black girls from Harlem. I can't stand it at all. We're Americans. We live in
the United States of America. It pisses me off, seriously.
She's entitled to her opinion, but this.
No. We're all the same.
Well, I don't know that we're the same.
We're one nation. Like, I'm tired of this whole we're white girls from the
East Side, you're black girls from Harlem. We're all the same.
Well, I don't know that we're the same. I'm saying white, black, Hispanic,
Asian, Japanese, we come from the same core, right?
These bitches already think we're exactly the same in all the wrong ways.
they need is a better understanding of our exceptionalism and our uniqueness. I
really, in this moment, feel very undermined.
Thank you.
I'm using the restroom really quick. You guys start eating.
You're not into the octopus? No, I'm going to. I just need a piece so bad.
Let me know, because when you come back, it might not be mine.
So you know what? Me too. And I got a small bladder.
Bon appetit. Eat away, everybody.
I'm eating.
Adrienne, this is delicious, wherever you are.
Just so you know, I'm feeling a little tired, so I may, like, leave in the
middle of the course. The fact that you came is all that I care about. You have
that vertigo again.
How'd you know?
I know. Oh, my God.
You know me so well. I know. It's scary.
What is vertigo? I'll show you.
You're going to show us your vertigo? Yeah, you'll see how I sway off to the
side. But you have to catch me.
Wait, maybe I have, maybe I should have her. Is she more responsible?
No, you'll catch me. I didn't even know this was possible.
Don't trust me. Okay, wait. Show me your vertigo. I'll show you. Wait. Hold my
hand. I shut my eyes. Watch. I sway.
your grandmother died last week yeah she just got colon cancer and she just it's
a big loss like you know i'm a kid i know that's what ramona yeah i don't
know how you mentally dealt with that like i don't know physically like given
three months to live you thought you were gonna die they told me i was gonna
and i'm here girl 13 years cancer free
I have the chills right now. I have the chills. Being diagnosed with a terminal
illness and being able to live to talk about it is not something a lot of
get to do.
Are you happier now than you were? Or do you see things totally different?
I live my life now.
I do it all.
I'm vivacious. I used to be a people pleaser. I used to care what people said
about me. I don't give a...
It's the inner ear. I have to go to the doctor for it.
And it's stress.
But why are you stressed?
Number one, Coco's not doing well. I think I have to start doing something.
Maybe you want to do it with me. We have to do this TM or something.
I stress myself out. What's TM that you were just talking about?
I have to start doing meditation.
I just think she did take on too much with this.
whole group of us.
Abandoned. She has vertigo again. I'm a perfectionist. I am a perfectionist.
Yes, you are. I notice this table was perfection.
This table is perfection.
Right down to these.
Who did I give you, baby? Duke Ellington. I appreciate everything you
I'm glad you included my new friend for Sean. I really, actually, really like
her. Alright, ladies.
Hello.
Okay, this is called the Breshawn.
Oh, you made a drink? This is my first impression of having a personal
interaction with Breshawn. And because she chose to express those all lives
matter vibes. I feel very dismissed, to be candid. Here, move closer to Sonia.
I'm not feeling well. And I got to go. You outdid yourself.
Bye,
gorgeous. Okay. Bye, baby.
No, you can have it. I'll have it. You have it. All right, bye.
So this is funny. So just be honest, right?
Me and my bestie, we were out just four days ago. She's dating a guy she loves.
He has a small penis. Would you break up? And look, Ebony put her head down.
She's like, uh, I can't.
Maybe it was a good idea for Ramona to leave, not because of the vertigo, but
because we're all talking about small penises. He's four, and it's not good.
four's not bad. You could work with that.
No good?
Skinny and four? Four is like this.
Oh, that's two.
No, two girls like you. I don't think I've ever seen a penis that small. No, I
have.
I have to have full sexual satisfaction.
I mean, same. I really do. I'm just trying to think of options. I do. I got
have it, y 'all. Well, you know, people say that you can't have it all, but
damn, I will die trying. Amen.
Y 'all, thank y 'all for coming to Harlem.
I think actually all of y 'all have been before. I know Ramona was our Harlem
version. I think this is a magical part of New York.
Black excellence that is a part of American excellence.
You opened a package for us to discover. It's right in your backyard, y 'all.
Upper East Side, right down the street. Let's do this again. It's not worth it.
Coming up.
I put you through such hell for a long time. I'm sorry.
I made so many mistakes.
All right, Coco, I'm going to do a mask.
Now I forgot which side it's supposed to be on. I think this side. Yeah, yeah.
It actually doesn't really matter.
It feels very refreshing. Let's time it.
I think it's like ten minutes, five minutes.
You want a treat?
What do you want?
Pumpkin spice.
You like it, boy?
You like it?
Hey,
gorgeous. Hey.
Look at you. Look at you.
Good to see you, baby. Good to see you. Thank you. I was actually just looking
at the menu.
We're probably going to get a tiny cocktail.
All right. So, I thought your hard lead went really good.
I'm so glad you got came.
I planned so much, so much intricate detail. I was just proud, honestly.
Everybody there, I think, appreciated it. Did you think that it resonated with
everybody?
Yeah, completely.
I mean, Mona obviously didn't feel well. No, and she sent me a really nice text
message actually after. And so did Sonia. Sonia sent me this message.
It was great. I mean, I thought Lou, I thought she was a tiny bit quiet maybe.
I mean, look.
Yeah, everybody can't be on all the time. They can't be on all the time. I
that white people are scared to get it wrong.
Exactly, you know. And also, like, look, you're, like, I wouldn't want to debate
with you. You don't want the smoke, Leah? Like, I don't know if I really
the smoke with you, you know.
Of course the women are walking on eggshells after the weekend in the
They really don't know how offensive they are sometimes.
Diana. Are you talking to me? I meant Diana.
No, I'm Michelle. No, you're getting Michelle. I get my health wrong.
She said she got her health wrong.
Not only are you a black woman, but you... I've studied it. It's like a
different life. It's a different level. It's my life's work. It's your life's
work. Honestly, like, I love having conversations about race with my black
friends. Interesting.
It's dynamic.
It's like there's never something to not talk about because everyone's
experience is so different. But you, I think you are very knowledgeable and you
are very powerful when you speak as you should be. And you shouldn't like have
to like, like dumb it down.
Well, my life, I just can't do that. No, no, no. And you shouldn't. You know
what I mean? But also just, I think, be aware.
Of your power, which I think you are, but maybe you're not as aware as... I
haven't been, Leah. You know, I think you can be a little intimidating, maybe.
All right, and I receive that.
I never go into a space like, I'm going to show this bitch.
But, you know, the reality is I make no apologies for who I am. Yeah, I'm a lot.
You bitches are a lot, too. If some of these women feel like they can't be
then they are just going to be, right?
And so I don't know how to make them feel like they can, because it's a
like, it's a landmine for a white person. You know what I'm saying?
I do. No, I do. I mean, it's just like, I'm not a white woman, obviously. And
so, like, I can have my best intentions and want to do it this way, that they're
getting it. But if it's not landing, I need to know that. But I don't know.
not like I know. Have to talk to them yet. Right.
About anything.
And I'm not.
thing that you shouldn't be doing this if you uh i know where you're about to
you know where i'm about to go feeling like i'm on payroll to teach white women
exactly like i don't want you to have to feel like this is your job right i want
you to be able to chill too but also honestly we feel like if not me then who
you know no one's perfect especially these women they do have some learning
do but she can also
Get to know them. I think just her getting to know them and being their
will teach them so many things.
This summer, when George Floyd was first killed and Breonna Taylor and
everything, I did check out. And I actually was like, I'm not doing this
anymore. Y 'all go find another black teacher.
Yeah. And then I felt like I wasn't doing my purpose.
You have to do you. I got to do me. And I'll be honest, they could be a group of
black women and I would be the same. Right. Oh, I know you would. You know
I mean? Oh, I know you would.
You want some peanuts?
Sure. Yeah? Because you're on the keto diet, right?
No, no, no. You're not?
I thought you were on the keto diet.
Hello. Oh, I just heard Victoria.
It is you indeed.
Did you look through your new people? I looked through my new people. Wow.
What do you want to drink? I don't know. Do you have your faux?
I've got my faux -zay. It tastes so good.
So Victoria hasn't been drinking for like a year now.
Congratulations. Yeah. Yeah. Very proud of her. Very proud.
Very grown up to get it at this age.
It's impressive, really. I have.
But, you know, Sonia brought it up. She was like, yeah, we used to love to
party. I'm like, yeah, I love to party, you know.
And I have great memories of those days.
Yeah. Listen, will I ever drink again? I don't know the answer to that.
Anyway, I would like for Sonia to kind of reel it in.
Well, the best thing you can do is just be a power of example.
I'm a lot more calm and a lot happier. I would say you are your true self.
Yeah, I've gotten definitely more connected to myself.
And that's the point. Oh, there's a delivery?
I'm going to go get that. Oh, thanks, Mal. When you're in a different place
you're grounded and you feel present and you can actually be there for people.
It's so different in terms of how my relationships have changed.
It's a gift that you don't drink, Mom.
I feel so much better.
You're a lot better, to say the least. You know what I mean? You're just my
I really don't feel that I... I think when I was younger, I knew you as this.
Hi, Mom!
Hi, Rocky.
Hi, sweetie.
And then there was that...
That period.
What did I do?
Leave your feet in the vehicle. What did I do wrong?
Those years, you know, where I was growing up, when I was your age, you
dealing with my dad who had a drinking problem. And the same time, from 8 to
It's like a parallel universe. It's parallel. And, yeah, I'm starting to
the dots, you know, on so many things that I did. I mean, my father is the
that runs through my life that I'm realizing now, like.
How it affected me my whole life. You know, this is all I wanted from you as a
kid. I wanted you to be honest and acknowledge the insanity and say you're
sorry. You know what I mean? That's all I ever wanted. I didn't... Well, listen,
I put you through such hell for a long time, so... I'm sorry.
I made so many mistakes.
I love you so much.
I do.
Well, it means a lot.
I don't know.
I did the best I could.
I understand, really, now that I'm sober.
I can't imagine the turmoil that we're going through right now having to deal
with a hangover on top of it. I really can't.
Coming up.
America's daughters. They get to see a woman vice president. We've never seen
that in American history.
Okay. I don't want to talk politics.
Right? I don't want to talk politics.
I don't want you to hold back. I want you to be completely honest when we're
talking to Whitney. You know what I mean? She's here to, like, guide us and
us. You need to, like, speak openly about, like, what you want out of a high
school, your strengths, your weaknesses.
Well, you know something.
You're the one who wants me to go to private school. Oh, no. I want you to
options.
Oh, my God. Okay. There's Whitney.
We have to be on our best behavior.
You really are the hottest woman I've ever seen in my life. Sorry. It's beyond
nice of you. Same to you. Thank you. Same to you. I'm excited to meet you
in person.
I know.
Come on in. Whitney is a consultant that I hired to help us apply to high
schools for Kiki because this process is absolutely grueling. So one thing that
we're going to be looking for in a school is a school that promotes hands
project -based learning. Yes, and this is...
Sorry, just interrupt. And you know because you've been dealing with my
and I'm sorry about that. My mother is involved in pretty much every decision I
make with Kier because she is obsessed with her.
And Bunny thinks that Kiki will be the child that I never was to her. She's
gung -ho on Kiki going through her...
high school that she went to, which is an all -girl Catholic school that's very
much like writing and not project -based learning.
And I'm like, I'm meeting so much resistance with her. My mother is
and she has the best intentions for my daughter, but I feel like I'm being
pulled between my mom and, you know? You are.
I am. I mean, you're in a challenging position.
What I really want for Kier is for her to really have a...
great high school experience.
I don't want her running all over New York City, going out to raves, and then
ending up in a therapeutic community run by nuns like I did.
So we're going to help guide you in the direction that we think is helpful.
But ultimately, I want you to own this process, okay?
Do you feel okay with that?
Yeah. Yeah? I feel fine.
And it'll be awesome for mom to see you rise to the occasion, right?
So, I already emailed you your school list. I'm going to kick you out of here,
and you're going to go start your research. Oh, good idea.
Yep, look up these schools, okay?
Okay, I will. Thank you. You're welcome.
Text me later. Good job, Kiki. You're taking ownership. I love that. You are.
Stop. All right, how are you feeling?
My mother makes me feel so guilty about everything.
It's like I have loved, Kiki, being educated at a public school.
having friends that are all different races and socioeconomic.
Private school is a whole different ballgame. I'm like, can she handle that
change? I was going to a school where I was, like, curls were pulling up in
limousines, and I was, like, getting off the M5 bus.
And I have my own issues about that stuff, but I don't want to project it
her, you know?
For Kiki, really, I wanted to nurture a love of learning and a curiosity, but I
also don't want her to be like in school with a bunch of elitists.
And that's something that is like very hard to balance when you're dealing with
like private school education in New York City.
I'm like so terrified that I'm going to make a mistake.
I feel like Rob's going to be so awkward during the parent interview. We can't
leave him out of the interview. He has to come.
Can we just, like, not talk?
You're playing the role of silence. Yeah, you're playing the role of mute.
you.
I'm using the paper nap.
I've got too much laundry to do. Can you slow down?
Mommy's a little tired today.
You guys should have waited until we got here.
Should I take the ice out?
Oh, good. Let me see here.
Perfect timing.
Perfect timing.
Oh, sexy.
Well, it's kind of warm now. You look beautiful, baby. Well, so do you. I had
something else on, but my arm was a little warm because it got so warm out.
holding Carrie deep. She's so excited. Hi. I want to scratch your pretty legs.
No, don't worry about it. I invited Ebony to come over, and she brought her
Carrie, because I want to get into the meat and potatoes of her. Yes, can she
a little preachy at times? Yes.
But I enjoy Ebony's company. She has a good heart, good soul, and I respect her
tremendously.
Ramona, this place is gorgeous.
Thank you. Look at this view.
Cheers. Cheers again. Lovely getting to know you, becoming good friends. Thank
you, Ramona. And thanks for having me over to your home.
What did you think of the Harlem night? I'm so excited that you got to come.
You know what? It was really nice to be in that type of an atmosphere. I really
was like blown away by your attention to detail. You took it to another level.
No, you did. It was just really beautiful and stunning. That's good.
So we don't have to talk too much about it, but how are you just feeling with
the election and how our city and world will be in the next few months?
I really just don't want to think about it. I've been thinking about it a lot.
If it goes how it's looking, it's going to go right now. What I'm very, very
happy about is America's daughters. They get to see a woman vice president.
We've never seen that in American history.
Okay. I don't want to talk politics.
Right? I don't want to talk politics. Have we had a vice president, woman,
Ramona? That's an objective fact.
Let's have a nice evening. I don't want to talk politics.
I don't.
I'm actually shocked that Ramona is.
So triggered. I thought like where we can have middle ground. Like I actually
thought about this was we are women and she has a daughter. And can't we all
agree how great it is to see women advance in American politics? You know,
not going to let you off the hook that much. You know what? Only because they
say don't talk about politics with friends. We're not talking about
Does Ebony have to talk politics all the time? I know we have more in common
than that. As my daughter Avery would say, peel back the onion.
Ebony, can you peel back the onion, please?
I'll change the subject. So after that whole weekend that we had.
Well, I'm happy about Kamala Harris. I'll say that. That's your right to be.
After our whole weekend in the Hamptons, you really opened up my mind to things.
So I first looked up what.
Oh, micro.
Oh, microaggression. Okay.
Microaggression? What's that all about?
It's about saying certain words that trigger people who are black.
Okay. There is this issue, and it's been an ongoing issue in this country. So,
of course, we're aware, but we are not that aware. Like when a black person
into a store, they go, go to the sale rack.
A black person goes into the store, they follow you to make sure you're not
going to shock them.
Right. Or like, oh, you have great hair.
Is it yours?
I didn't add that. Yeah, so you opened up my mind. You seemed like you
appreciated knowing, you know, once you're new. Yeah, absolutely. I think
tend to be, and it's probably just because of the experiences I've had in
world, working at Fox and working in news. So I kind of sometimes have a bit
a grittier lens on our country.
We are a divided country right now, Ramona, and we're in your home, and I'm
going to respect that. But you know what, when you think, when you put out
energy, it's going to happen. No, no, because it's true, though. We don't even
know who the president is, which is indicative our nation is divided.
Well, excuse me, we don't have a president because normally there weren't
-in ballots.
Everything changed the whole election. Well, you said you didn't want to talk
about politics.
Well, you're bringing it up. All right, can we just change the subject?
I'm going to take a step away because you know what?
I don't want to do this.
I don't. I'm liking you, and I just don't think you mix. I don't know you
well. I feel like you're teaching me. You're preaching me.
Tell me what I taught you. I don't know. You know what?
I'm walking away for a minute, and I'm going to come back.
Okay.
We don't even know who the president is, which is indicative our nation is
divided. I feel like you're teaching me. You're preaching me.
Tell me what I taught you. I don't know. You know what?
I'm walking away for a minute, and I'm going to come back. Okay.
Ebony's not having a conversation.
It seems like she just wants to ram something down my throat, so to speak,
it's like her way or no way, and she's sounding a little preachy.
Coco, we don't want to talk politics.
It's been a crazy week. I'm stressed out enough.
I know she means well, but I feel like she wants to educate me.
I don't want to be educated.
I mean, I like my mind being opened up, and I just said you opened up my mind,
and then, wow, she can't, like, back off.
Ramona needs to really understand.
I'm actually just trying to connect with you and really see not what your party
politics. I don't give a about that. I'm trying to understand what your values
are, because if we can assess and have any alignment right on values, we can
have a real friendship. You know, Coco, this is why I'm not feeling well. I
haven't put on my butterfly necklace. It's me and Avery.
So this is my happy necklace. This is me and Avery.
It's absolutely beautiful. And it's a one -of -a -kind piece. And everyone
to know where they can get it, but it was specially made for me.
And I haven't worn it for a while. And I just want to be in a happy place. It's
gorgeous. Here's to being in a happy place. And it's good to chat with you,
I just want to be in a happy place. I want to be in a happy place, too.
But I also want to be in an authentic place. I want us to be able to tell the
truth from Mona to each other. If we're going to be good girlfriends.
fun right now, okay? I had a really hard week. That's your privilege. This is
the white female fragility, Ramona.
You're preaching me. I'm not. You are. That's gaslighting. You know what? I'm
not gaslighting you. Yes, you are. You're gaslighting me. I invited you
home. I'm telling you that I want to have a real friendship with you, Ramona,
because I like you.
I like you, too. But you can't like me only when I say the things you want me
say. You can say whatever you want. I just don't want to talk about political.
And I'm not talking about that. I don't want to talk about race, religion, or
creed. Is that okay?
Ramona, that's who I am.
Well, then you know what?
You need to back off a little because the other girls are not feeling really
good about this. They feel like you're lecturing them. It was a fun night, but
we were just saying it's like being back at school.
Well, when you're with Ebony, you feel like it's her platform to...
Educate us. It's a huge movement right now.
No, I know. And we respect that. But I'm wondering when it's going to loosen up
with her a little bit. We can talk about other subjects.
They should be big girls because everybody's an adult. And they should
they feel. You invited me here. I thought that we were on a good place,
We are on a good place. But you can't tell me not to talk about how I feel.
You're too heavy for me right now. This is too serious of a conversation when I
just want to enjoy my life. I'm glad that you can. I want to escape for 24
hours. Ramona, I'm glad you can do that.
I have the privilege to do that. You know what? Does that make sense to you?
Yes, you can. I can't escape it. Am I supposed to take this off and hang it
No. Did you have a coat closet for my blackness, Ramona? I'm feeling I'm being
attacked, okay? I really, you know, tried to understand, and I took things
and I'm actually, you know, I didn't have to bring this up. I mean, the other
person I want to bring up is E .J. Walker.
She was the first freaking millionaire, and she was black. It's E .J. Walker.
Whatever. Walker, Walker. No, not whatever, Ramona. All right, you know
got to go now. Okay, I'm going. All right? Lovely to see you.
Thank you. It was lovely to see me, though. It was lovely. You were upset.
And why?
We don't have to be upset. No, because now you're correcting me about... I
didn't know, Ramona. You know, I didn't do that. You know what, Ramona? That is
admirable that you knew the first millionaire woman was a black chick
correcting me like a teacher. I feel like I'm with a teacher. You know what?
You're not getting it right now. You know that's not her name.
Oh, my God. It's not the point.
I'm actually shocked right now. I feel like she's just picking on me for no
reason. Before I leave, I do have to ask you one question.
Sonia Morgan.
mentioned to me that she had a problem with you posting the picture that I
and reposted of me and you.
She was just jealous.
Sonia loves the attention.
And when she saw I gave you attention, she was resentful. Look who's lecturing.
Look who's lecturing. Look who's standing up here. I feel like I'm
here with school teachers. I felt like I was being attacked. You're not being
attacked, babe. I just wanted you to know CJ Walker because I know you're
to tell your friends. All right. That's it.
All right. All right. All right. All right.
Okay? I'm not a big scary monster, you crazy lady.
You know?
And I don't want to feel like we have no fly... You know what a no -fly zone is?
You know what a no -fly zone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't... We don't... And I
to know about your feelings. I think that you do.
I think you do.
So don't say it. I don't want to hear about your feelings. I was up at 5 o
'clock in the morning researching all this shit.
And that's okay.
But I'm not going to treat you with kid gloves and white fertility.
Because you're a strong white woman.
Yeah, and you're a strong black bitch.
Yeah, I am. Strong black bitch. I like that. So overall,
a show.
This guy was a show.
But one that we survived.
And I hope that it ends up bringing us closer in a weird way.
I wasn't going to let you kick me out.
Bitch,
you tried it. You were. Actually,
what was funny was you were going to leave your own house.
You were like, I'm going to leave. I'm like, well, I don't even know how to
up. Next time on The Real Housewives of New York City.
I love men that can travel to other countries.
We don't want nobody broke.
Welcome to Salem, bitches.
Is the hotel okay? No, no.
Only good spirits here. Maybe I'll, you know, get lucky during the night.
You are what's wrong in the world, so shut up.
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