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(PHONE RINGING)
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(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
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(VOICES MUMBLING lNDISTINCTLY)
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(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
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(PHONE RINGING)
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(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
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So?
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This is the only alligator.
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Four minutes past.
We walk in one minute.
He was clear on that.
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He's coming.
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No, he's too young
to have that kind
of access.
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Uh, what time does
the restaurant open?
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Noon. But the food's
a little too spicy.
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This way.
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MAN: Excuse me.
Uh-huh.
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MAN: Thank you.
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(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
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Right here.
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(SIGHS) it's, uh,
really great to finally
meet you guys.
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So, first thing,
can I get your
cell phones, please?
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Thank you.
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We want Laura to be
the only one recording, right?
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As discussed? Thank you.
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I actually bought this.
It blocks UHF frequencies.
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(CAMERA BEEPS)
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You've been
photographed before, right?
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Yeah, it's been a while
since anybody took
a photo of me, so... (LAUGHS)
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LAURA: Try thinking of
this as your friend.
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(BREATHES DEEPLY)
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Take your time.
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(lNHALES DEEPLY) Um...
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Can you start by telling us
why you did what you did
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and, uh, how you gained access
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to such a vast
amount of information,
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all of which I read
on the plane
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and...
Glenn.
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Uh, how about we just start
with your name? Okay?
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(lNHALES DEEPLY)
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My name is
Edward Joseph Snowden.
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I'm 29 years old.
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I work as a privatecontractor for the NSA.
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I've also worked asa private contractor
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for the CIA and directlyfor the Agency.
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I've worked in various jobsin the intelligence industry
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for the last nine years.
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I've beena systems engineer, uh,been a solutions consultant...
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Uh...
(ALL CALLING CADENCE)
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SNOWDEN: And a senior advisor
for the Centrallntelligence Agency.
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RECRUIT: Rangers...
DRILL SERGEANT: Rangers...
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RECRUITS: Rangers...
RECRUIT: Rangers...
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DRILL SERGEANT: So you
wanna be Special Forces?
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RECRUITS: Sir, yes, sir!
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I think Special Forces
would be ashamed
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to call you soldiers.
Am I right?
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RECRUITS: Sir, no, sir!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Your left.
Your left, right. Your left.
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DRILL SERGEANT: (SINGING)
Went from driving Cadillacs
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RECRUITS:
Went from driving Cadillacs
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DRILL SERGEANT:
To driving convoys in Iraq
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RECRUITS:
To driving convoys in Iraq
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TRAINER: Move it, soldier!
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(RECRUITS GRUNTING, PANTING)
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TRAINER: Go! Go!
Move now!
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TRAINERS: Move!
You better get going!
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Pick it up,
you waste of space!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Let's move!
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TRAINER: Come on, soldier! Go!
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Come on, darling!
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(SHOUTING) Snowden?
What the hell are you doing?
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Nothing, sir!
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Where is your
fucking heart?
Right here, sir!
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I want you to reach
way down in that pathetic
excuse of a chest,
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and you rip it out.
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You find your heart,
and then you get
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your broke ass on my tower!
You got that?
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Sir, yes, sir!
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DRILL SERGEANT:
Now get the fuck
out of my face!
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I need you on my tower,
gentlemen! Let's move!
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TRAINER: Move! Move! Let's go!
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(BANGING ON DOOR)
DRILL SERGEANT: (SHOUTING)
Rise and shine, maggots!
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Get your hands off your dicks,
and get the fuck
out of my barracks!
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You guys got one minute!
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Fall out! Move, move, move!
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Get the hell out here!
Get the hell out
of my barracks!
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(LOUD THUD)
(GASPS)
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DRILL SERGEANT: Move it!
Keep moving!
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Let's go!
All right, gentlemen.
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(RECRUITS GRUNTING)
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DRILL SERGEANT: Harrison?
RECRUIT: Here!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Carson?
RECRUIT: Here!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Ramirez?
RECRUIT: Here!
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(SHOUTS) Fuck!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Pierce?
RECRUIT: Here!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Coulson?
Help!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Snowden!
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Snowden!
Where the fuck is Snowden?
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Help! (SIGHS)
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DOCTOR: You know, you've
been walking around
on two broken legs...
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Best I can tell, for weeks.
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Now this is what happens
when you put
a 80-pound rucksack
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on a 150-pound body.
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You get these little
stress fractures and...
(GROANS)
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Easy.
Sorry.
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They build up
in your tibias.
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You don't get off of 'em,
and eventually they just bust.
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Now, you're gonna be
here for a few weeks,
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and then I'd count onanother eight weeks or so
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on the crutches.
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SNOWDEN: Okay,
and then when do I go back?
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Son, you ever again
land on those legs of yours,
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airborne or not,
those bones will
turn to powder.
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I'm gonna authorize
an administrative discharge.
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(SIGHS)
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DOCTOR: Plenty of other ways
to serve your country.
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(MESSAGE ALERT)
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(CHUCKLES)
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POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Have
you ever committed a crime
for which you weren't caught?
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SNOWDEN: No.
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POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Have you ever cheated
on an exam?
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SNOWDEN: No.
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Do you believe
the United States
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is the greatest
country in the world?
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Yes.
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INTERVIEWER:
Why do you want
to join the CIA?
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PSYCHOLOGIST:
How would you explain
the lnternet to a child?
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INTERVIEWER: Granddad
retired as an admiral
and joined the FBI.
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Dad's in the Coast Guard,
30-year man.
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PSYCHOLOGIST: What has been
the most important day
in your life?
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9/11.
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We thought my grandfather
was inside the Pentagon.
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Uh, turned out he was
off-site that day.
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INTERVIEWER:
You wanted to be
Special Forces?
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Yes, sir. Yeah,
I love their motto.
De oppresso liber.
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lNTERVIEWER: Is that what
you hope to do with us?
Free people from oppression?
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I'd like to help my country
make a difference
in the world.
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Uh, the lnternet
is a technology
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that has the power
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to let everyone in the world
understand each other.
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Missed a perfect score
on the ASVAB test
by a single question.
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Crushed the language
learning test.
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Some Mandarin,
some Japanese.
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And no high school diploma.
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So why did you stop
attending high school?
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I had to make money.
My parents were
divorcing at the time.
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Any other influences?
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I'd say Joseph Campbell,
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Star Wars,
Thoreau, Ayn Rand...
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One man can stop
the motor of the world.
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Atlas Shrugged.
Yes, sir. I believe that.
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Let's try again.
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Why do you want
to join the CIA?
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Uh...
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Well, frankly, sir,
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it sounds really cool to have
top security clearance.
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(CHUCKLES)
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(lNHALES DEEPLY)
it's not enough.
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(EXHALES DEEPLY)
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Ordinarily. But these
are not ordinary times.
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Bombs won't stop terrorism,
brains will,
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and we don't have
nearly enough of those.
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I'm gonna give you
a shot, Snowden.
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Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
You won't regret this.
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My name's Corbin O'Brian.
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I have many titles,
among them Senior lnstructor.
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You'll be joiningmy class at The Hill.
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Stop the vehicle.
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Shut off the engine.
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I need to see your lD.
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(BARKING)
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All right. Using
your left hand only,
pop the trunk.
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(LOCK OPENING)
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SECURITY GUARD: Now place
your hands
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through the steering wheel
on the dashboard.
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Through the steering wheel.
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On the dashboard.
Do not exit the vehicle.
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SECURITY GUARD 2:
Right here. Right here.
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Excuse me.
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You'll be looking
for Corbin's class.
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End of the hall,
keep going through
the second set of doors.
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Thank you.
Is that an Enigma?
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No.
Enigma was broken.
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This is the follow up,
the Sigaba. Never broken.
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Cold War's greatest
encryption machine.
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Tides of history
ticked with this motor
and these rotors.
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One day everyone's gonna want
a machine like this.
Wow!
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I always wanted to
learn cryptography.
What's this one?
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The Hot Line.
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First direct link between
Washington and Moscow.
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Probably
prevented World War lll.
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You got a name?
How do I know
you're not the enemy?
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Oh, sorry. Uh,
Snowden. Ed Snowden.
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Hank Forrester.
Where'd you study,
Snowden?
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Mostly I'm,
uh, self-taught.
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You can tell me
if you're busy,
but is that a Cray-1?
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Why, yes. Yes, it is.
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The first supercomputer.
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You can get all of
this on a cell phone now.
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Yeah. So you're,
um, an engineer?
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Am I an engineer?
lnstructor and counselor, too.
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I'm supposed to keep
an eye on you CTs,
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make sure you don't buckle
under the pressure.
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Turn to drugs and booze.
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Well, you won't have
that problem with me.
I don't drink or do drugs.
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What is your sin
of choice?
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Uh, computers.
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Well, then, Snowden,
you've come to the right
little whorehouse.
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O'BRIAN: The front lines in
the global war on terror
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are not in Iraq
or Afghanistan.
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They're here. In London,
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Berlin,
(WOMAN SPEAKING lNDISTINCTLY)
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lstanbul...
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Any server,
any connection...
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The modern battlefield
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is everywhere.
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Which means
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you don't have to sit
in the ditch eating MREs
or dodging mortar fire,
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it means that if
there is another 9/11,
it'll be your fault.
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Just as the last one
was my generation's.
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Believe me, you do not want
to live with that burden.
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We're gonna start
with an aptitude test.
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(KEYBOARDS CLACKING)
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O'BRIAN: Each of you
is gonna build a covertcommunications network
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in your home city,
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you're gonna deploy it,back up your site, destroy it,
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and restore it again.
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The point of thisexercise is to keep
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your infrastructure upand running securely.
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The average testtime is five hours.
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If you take more than eight,
you will fail.
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SNOWDEN: Mr. O'Brian?
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I'm done, sir.
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You don't have to tell me
when you've completed a stage.
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No, I finished
the whole thing.
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It's been 40 minutes.
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Thirty-eight.
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What?
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Thirty-eight minutes.
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Okay. Let's see
where you screwed up.
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(KEYBOARDS CLACKING)
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(SYSTEM BEEPING)
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(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
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(COMPUTING)
(SYSTEM BEEPING)
243
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You didn't say we had
to do it in order, sir.
244
00:15:13,930 --> 00:15:17,020
So I, uh, broke
the sequence to save time,
245
00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:21,180
and I automated
the backup process
to run as I built the site.
246
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Eyes on screens.
247
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,600
Sir?
248
00:15:34,890 --> 00:15:36,560
What should I do now?
249
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Whatever you want.
250
00:15:54,270 --> 00:15:56,220
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
(MAN LAUGHING)
251
00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,100
(CAMERA CLICKS)
252
00:16:15,970 --> 00:16:17,970
Hey.
Hi.
253
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:21,220
Finally. (LAUGHS)
Yeah.
254
00:16:24,270 --> 00:16:26,520
Um, sorry.
255
00:16:31,270 --> 00:16:34,270
Do you, um,
want anything?
256
00:16:34,350 --> 00:16:37,060
No. Let's go
for a walk.
257
00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:38,810
You could use some sun.
(LAUGHS)
258
00:16:39,270 --> 00:16:43,100
(LAUGHS) Yeah.
You mentioned that earlier.
259
00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:46,470
Sorry it took me
this long. I just...
260
00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:50,760
You didn't want to
see me on crutches.
I was not so agile.
261
00:16:51,060 --> 00:16:52,720
And then this
new job hit. So...
262
00:16:52,810 --> 00:16:55,220
Oh, yeah, what was it
you were doing again?
263
00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:57,220
I'm doing analysis for
the State Department.
264
00:16:57,310 --> 00:16:59,350
Right. Congratulations.
Thanks.
265
00:16:59,430 --> 00:17:00,890
You're welcome.
266
00:17:00,970 --> 00:17:02,680
Hey, can you
do me a favor
267
00:17:02,770 --> 00:17:04,970
and, um, point
in the direction
of the State Department?
268
00:17:05,770 --> 00:17:06,930
Uh...
269
00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:11,600
Yeah, it's that way.
(CAMERA CLICKS)
270
00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:14,390
Where? Are you sure?
(CAMERA CLICKS)
271
00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,270
I mean, I'm not that great
at orienting myself...
272
00:17:18,350 --> 00:17:20,560
Not that great
at lying, either.
273
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,270
You're gonna
have to work on both
if you wanna be a spy.
274
00:17:24,970 --> 00:17:26,430
Where I came from,
everyone's parents
275
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,600
worked for
the "State Department."
276
00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:31,640
Plus, every time you visited
my website this week,
277
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,470
which was quite often,
it was from an lP in Virginia.
278
00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,720
You know how to
run an lP trace?
Yeah.
279
00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:42,020
I'm pretty sure that
the State Department
has no offices in Virginia.
280
00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:45,890
(CHUCKLES)
Huh?
281
00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:47,430
(CAMERA CLICKS)
282
00:17:51,390 --> 00:17:52,810
All right,
let's see you strut it.
283
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:54,470
Let's see what?
284
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,100
Let's see you strut it.
Show me what you got,
you know.
285
00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:57,850
Your best catwalk.
286
00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,390
Don't be shy.
287
00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,720
Come on.
You got this.
Uh... All right.
288
00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:05,060
(CAMERA CLICKING)
289
00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:06,640
(BOTH LAUGHING)
290
00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:08,560
I don't know. (LAUGHS)
291
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,100
PROTESTORS: (CHANTING)
Drop Bush, not bombs!
292
00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:17,930
Drop Bush, not bombs!
293
00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:19,930
Drop Bush, not bombs!
294
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:22,270
Excuse me.
Would you mind signing
our petition, please?
295
00:18:22,350 --> 00:18:23,680
Yes, absolutely.
296
00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:27,680
Thank you.
Thank you so much. Sir?
297
00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:28,810
No, thank you.
298
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,060
MALE ACTMST:
Excuse me, ma'am.
Would you like to sign?
299
00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:34,810
I actually just signed.
Yeah.
Okay. Thank you very much.
300
00:18:34,890 --> 00:18:35,890
Thank you.
301
00:18:37,310 --> 00:18:39,430
Too much independent
spirit for you?
302
00:18:40,020 --> 00:18:43,720
Uh, no, I just don't really
like bashing my country.
303
00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:47,600
It's my country too,
and right now it has
blood on its hands.
304
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,020
(SIGHS)
305
00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:53,020
Sorry, I just...
l have friends who are
over there right now.
306
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:54,430
I'm not talking
about the troops.
307
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,350
I'm talking about the moron
sending them to war.
308
00:18:56,430 --> 00:18:59,270
(LAUGHS) Moron? You mean
our Commander-in-Chief?
309
00:18:59,350 --> 00:19:01,760
Yeah, whatever you
want to call him.
He's still wrong.
310
00:19:01,850 --> 00:19:03,560
How do you know he's wrong?
You're just lashing out.
311
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,430
No, I'm not lashing out.
I'm questioning
our government.
312
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,640
That's what we do
in this country.
313
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,060
That is the principle
that we were founded on.
314
00:19:11,140 --> 00:19:15,310
Okay, but how about
questioning the liberal media?
315
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,470
I mean,
you're just buying into
what one side is saying.
316
00:19:20,270 --> 00:19:22,890
(LAUGHS) Maybe I am,
'cause my side is right.
317
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:25,560
See, that's funny,
'cause my side's right.
Oh, really?
318
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,930
Yeah.
Uh...(LAUGHS)
319
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,060
Why is it smart conservatives
always make me so mad?
320
00:19:32,140 --> 00:19:34,430
Probably because
you don't like
hearing the truth.
321
00:19:35,060 --> 00:19:38,890
You are a very
frustrating individual,
you know that?
322
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,810
How am I going
to make you see?
323
00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:45,100
I can see just fine,
thank you.
324
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:52,640
(CHUCKLES)
325
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,970
That help at all?
326
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:57,850
Nope. No, that did
nothing for me.
327
00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:59,180
Tastes like liberal.
328
00:19:59,270 --> 00:20:02,100
(LAUGHS)
it's not my thing.
329
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:04,850
(O'BRIAN READING)
330
00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:09,140
(O'BRIAN READING)
331
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:12,930
Is it constitutional
to bypass the Courts?
332
00:20:13,020 --> 00:20:15,600
No. The Fourth Amendment
prevents searches
333
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,100
and seizures
without a warrant.
334
00:20:17,180 --> 00:20:20,720
That's absolutely right,
Rio. Which means
335
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,350
your Commander-in-Chief,
the President of
the United States,
336
00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:26,270
is breaking the law.
337
00:20:27,470 --> 00:20:29,270
That is what you're saying,
isn't it, Rio?
338
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:34,310
Well, I guess it depends
on who you talk to.
339
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:36,220
O'BRIAN: And if you talk
to journalists?
340
00:20:36,930 --> 00:20:40,720
Who, more often than not,
don't have the full picture,
341
00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:44,270
or neglect to report it,
you only get a partial truth.
342
00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:50,680
Foreign lntelligence
Surveillance Act.
343
00:20:50,770 --> 00:20:52,260
The FISA Court.
344
00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:56,060
We do respect
the Fourth Amendment
in this country,
345
00:20:56,140 --> 00:20:57,680
and we issue warrants
based on suspicion.
346
00:20:57,770 --> 00:21:03,100
But sometimes these warrants
have to be issued
by secret courts,
347
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:05,850
so we don't alert
the suspects we're spying on.
348
00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:09,100
And these court proceedings
are classified,
349
00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:10,930
which means, surprise...
350
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:15,180
They don't appear in papers
such as The New York Times.
351
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,890
SNOWDEN:
Did you see my test scores?
352
00:21:18,020 --> 00:21:21,260
HANK: Yes. Top of
my class. Like you.
What, here?
353
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:24,390
NSA. They liked me plenty.
354
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:28,760
They put me on
all the best teams.
Soviet frontier. Desert Storm.
355
00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:31,260
And then
the big new challenge,
356
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:35,890
find the terrorist
in the lnternet haystack.
Hell of a haystack.
357
00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:37,390
Hundreds of
terabytes a minute.
358
00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:40,390
I mean, it would
take you 400 years
to read the emails.
359
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:42,510
Then you have
to analyze them.
360
00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:45,560
Sometimes,
the more you look,
the less you see.
361
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,470
What'd you come up with?
HANK: Something beautiful.
362
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,930
In house.
For $3 million.
363
00:21:51,020 --> 00:21:55,100
A program that could
differentiate between
foreign and domestic,
364
00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:58,810
encrypt every signal
we weren't targeting,
so it would remain private.
365
00:21:59,060 --> 00:22:01,140
It was elegant, streamlined.
366
00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:03,060
It was the best
work I ever did.
367
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,760
Have a seat.
368
00:22:07,390 --> 00:22:08,640
What was it called?
369
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,810
Ed, rising to
the top in our world
370
00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:25,220
can sometimes
be hard on a man.
371
00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:29,680
I mean... You think
you're making strides,
372
00:22:29,770 --> 00:22:32,430
you think you're
taking the initiative.
373
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:36,140
And then, the next minute,
they grind your work
out of existence.
374
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,680
They didn't use it?
Why not?
375
00:22:38,770 --> 00:22:41,180
HANK: Well,
they never tell you why.
376
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,310
Two years later,
after 9/11,
377
00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:46,680
a friend of mine
tells me about
378
00:22:46,770 --> 00:22:49,560
this new contractor
program they're using.
379
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,100
Costs $4 billion
to deploy.
380
00:22:52,180 --> 00:22:57,100
Modeled after mine
but with no filters,
no automation.
381
00:22:58,180 --> 00:23:01,850
Ingested everything.
They were drowning in data.
382
00:23:01,930 --> 00:23:03,560
It was a fucking disaster.
383
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,510
Okay, but there must have been
some bigger picture, right?
384
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,890
I mean, spending
that kind of money?
They're not stupid.
385
00:23:09,970 --> 00:23:12,640
You would think
intelligence would
count for something
386
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,600
in the intelligence
business.
387
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,060
Right. But you wanna
know what it really is?
388
00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:20,350
What really sets
the agenda?
389
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:25,720
Military industrial
happiness management.
390
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,640
You keep the coffers
open in Congress,
391
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,890
you keep the money flowing
to the contractors.
392
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:35,680
Efficiency, results?
They go out the window.
393
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,100
Not to mention...
All right.
394
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,720
Well, you're late
for class.
395
00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:43,220
(BELL RINGING)
396
00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:45,220
Okay. Thank you.
397
00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:49,390
Can I take another one?
Sure.
398
00:23:56,430 --> 00:23:58,970
Did you ever say
anything to anybody?
399
00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:03,180
Yeah. I went to legal.
We filed complaints.
400
00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:07,100
Now here I am,
tucked away, teaching you.
401
00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:12,310
Maybe that's more important,
in the long run.
402
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:14,220
You're getting better.
403
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,060
My favorite spot
on campus.
404
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,140
You hunt, Ed?
405
00:24:37,270 --> 00:24:38,600
SNOWDEN: Uh...
406
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:42,020
Did some skeet shooting
with my dad a few times,
407
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,850
but, no,
I never went hunting.
408
00:24:43,930 --> 00:24:45,140
O'BRIAN:
We'll go one day.
409
00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:46,430
SNOWDEN:
That'd be great.
410
00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:49,470
Mr. O'Brian,
can I ask you a question?
411
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,310
How about just
calling me Corbin?
412
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,220
Okay. (LAUGHS)
Thank you, sir. Uh, Corbin.
413
00:24:56,180 --> 00:25:00,720
I was talking
with Hank Forrester
and I wanted to know,
414
00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:04,680
are all of our SIGINT programs
specifically targeted?
415
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:09,220
Of course.
What good would they be
if they weren't? Hmm?
416
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,060
(LAUGHS)
Yeah, I don't know.
417
00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:16,180
You have a girlfriend, Ed?
418
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:20,010
Uh, nothing serious.
419
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,510
What's her name?
Lindsay.
420
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,640
Lindsay.
421
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:25,470
She going with you?
422
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:29,140
No, I wouldn't want
to put her in any danger.
423
00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:30,260
Well, you won't have to.
424
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,760
We're not sending you
to the Middle East.
425
00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:42,600
Sir, I'm your best student.
Doesn't that count
for something?
426
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:47,850
In 20 years,
Iraq will be a hellhole
nobody cares about.
427
00:25:47,930 --> 00:25:49,970
Terrorism's
a short-term threat.
428
00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:54,600
The real threats will come
from China, Russia, lran,
429
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,510
and they'll come as
SQL injections and malware.
430
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,680
Without minds like yours,
this country will be
torn apart in cyberspace.
431
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,930
I don't want to risk
losing you
432
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:06,760
for some horseshit war
over sand and oil.
433
00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:11,260
Sir, I'm surprised
to hear you say that.
434
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:14,720
You don't have to agree
with your politicians
to be a patriot.
435
00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:16,140
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
436
00:26:18,770 --> 00:26:21,220
Sir, where are
you sending me?
Take a moment.
437
00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:23,260
Enjoy the view.
438
00:26:26,350 --> 00:26:27,350
Hey.
439
00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:32,180
(SIRENS BLARING)
440
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:35,470
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
441
00:26:38,270 --> 00:26:39,600
(STATIC)
442
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:42,510
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
443
00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:44,970
(DOOR OPENS)
444
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:46,260
GLENN: This is Laura.
445
00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:47,890
Hello.
446
00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:49,430
EWEN: Hello,
nice to meet you.
447
00:26:50,270 --> 00:26:53,390
Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill
from the Guardian.
It's nice to meet you.
448
00:26:53,470 --> 00:26:54,680
Nice to meet you, too.
449
00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:58,260
Um, if you don't mind, uh,
I'd like to record some of...
450
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:00,720
Uh...
Cell phones go
in the microwave.
451
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,180
Dare I ask why?
452
00:27:02,270 --> 00:27:04,720
We'll get to that.
After you ask your questions.
453
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,850
EWEN: Yeah, before...
454
00:27:06,930 --> 00:27:09,010
Before we get on to
the stories, I need
to know more about you.
455
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:13,510
Your career by Glenn's account
is very varied,
456
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,260
but the Guardian
needs evidence that...
457
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:18,390
Yeah. This is my
diplomatic passport
for friendly countries,
458
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,350
my tourist passport
for everywhere else.
459
00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:21,810
You can check
the visa stamps.
460
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:25,930
This is my NSA badge
with Booz Allen,
my CIA badge with Dell,
461
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:29,100
and this is my DIA
instructor's badge.
462
00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:32,100
This is a photo of me
with Michael Hayden,
463
00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:35,100
who's a former head
of the NSA and the CIA.
464
00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:37,510
When can you publish?
465
00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:41,970
Okay, um, do you mind
if I sit down?
No, please.
466
00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:46,560
EWEN: Uh, Glenn says
you want to, uh...
467
00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:48,600
You want to tell people
your identity.
468
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,260
How do you think
your government's
going to react?
469
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,930
Well, they'll charge me
under the Espionage Act.
470
00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:55,720
And they'll say I endangered
national security,
471
00:27:55,810 --> 00:27:58,510
and they'll demonize me,
and my friends and family.
472
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,350
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
And they'll throw me in jail.
473
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:03,430
That's the
best-case scenario.
474
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,850
And the worst?
475
00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:07,140
Well, if I don't
have any media cover,
476
00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:09,810
then I'll be rendered
by the CIA
477
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:12,220
and interrogated
outside of the law.
478
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:14,970
And they have a station
right up the street.
479
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:17,430
But how would they
know what you did?
480
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,060
Because I left a digital
footprint in my logs,
so they'll figure it out.
481
00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:23,100
I did not want
a manhunt.
482
00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:25,350
I know what they would
do to my colleagues.
483
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,470
Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh,
484
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,140
this is not about money
or anything for me.
485
00:28:33,220 --> 00:28:34,470
There's no hidden agenda.
486
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,350
I just wanted to get this data
to established journalists
like yourselves,
487
00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:40,640
so that you can present it
to the world,
488
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,260
and the people can decide
either I'm wrong
489
00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:49,180
or there's something going on
inside the government
that's really wrong.
490
00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:54,010
So...
491
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,260
This one
is everything I have
492
00:28:59,350 --> 00:29:02,260
on your British
intelligence agency, the GCHQ.
493
00:29:02,350 --> 00:29:04,310
An encryption key
will follow.
494
00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:07,970
You're gonna want
your technical people
at the Guardian
495
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:09,260
to look through
that thoroughly.
496
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:11,260
There's a lot
of stuff there.
497
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:13,140
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
498
00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:15,760
Listen,
they're gonna investigate,
499
00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:18,850
and they're gonna
figure out what I've done.
500
00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:21,060
And then they're
gonna come for me.
501
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:22,680
And now that
we've made contact,
502
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,260
they're gonna come
for all of you, too.
503
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:34,010
Uh... Um...
504
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,140
Do you mind if I go
look in the microwave?
505
00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:49,470
Ewen. I'm on with Stuart.
506
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,600
Hi, Ewen.
507
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:54,560
Hi, Stuart. Look,
I've got one thing to say.
508
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,140
The Guinness here is great.
JANINE: (OVER PHONE)
Wonderful.
509
00:29:57,220 --> 00:29:59,350
Oh, absolutely
the genuine article.
510
00:29:59,430 --> 00:30:00,510
JANINE: (OVER PHONE) Good.
511
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,060
But shockingly different
from what you'd expect.
512
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,850
So... (CLEARS THROAT) Now we
have the lawyers to deal with.
And no doubt the White House.
513
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,640
I got the go ahead.
514
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,010
That's great.
Oh, good.
515
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:14,850
Let's get started.
We have a lot to
go through here,
516
00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:16,220
and it's not easy reading.
517
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:18,100
LAURA: We can start
by showing him XKeyscore.
518
00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,510
Good idea. Ed,
can you bring it up again
and walk us through it?
519
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Yeah.
520
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:27,430
(CAMERA BEEPS, WHIRRING)
521
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,430
Do we all get
under there now?
522
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,760
He's protecting
his passwords.
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
523
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,060
Okay. So...
524
00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:42,100
This was introduced
525
00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:46,680
during my first deployment
at the CIA in Geneva.
526
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,890
EWEN: "XKeyscore."
527
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:50,760
What does that do?
528
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:53,930
It's like
a search interface.
529
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,220
What does it search for?
530
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,100
Anything you want.
531
00:31:00,350 --> 00:31:02,140
EWEN: What was your
assignment in Geneva?
532
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,430
SNOWDEN: Well, I was
assigned with diplomatic coverto the UN mission
533
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,060
to maintainthe CIA's computersecurity network.
534
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:18,350
I spent almost two yearsaround CIA field officers.
535
00:31:20,890 --> 00:31:23,140
I don't see a time
stamp on any of this.
536
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:24,760
We have
a confirmation on the GSS.
537
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:26,100
(PHONE RINGING)
538
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:28,810
SNOWDEN: I'm sorry, sir,
I don't understand.
539
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:31,430
Sherman says you hacked
the Human Resources site.
540
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,350
Yeah, it's my job
to find flaws.
541
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,100
The security of the HR site
is not your problem.
542
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:37,760
You went outside
the wheelhouse.
543
00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:40,260
Okay, but just to clarify,
I did not hack it,
544
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:42,850
I showed that it
could be hacked.
545
00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:44,220
You told me
to find a patch.
546
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:45,470
You have that
in writing?
547
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,760
Yes, I do.
Remember, I sent you
the proof of concept.
548
00:31:51,890 --> 00:31:53,100
Doesn't matter
what you did, Snowden.
549
00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:55,760
Right or wrong,
you need to let these things
be someone else's problem.
550
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:57,680
He's also put
a derog in your file.
551
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,180
Excuse me?
Let that be a lesson.
552
00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:00,600
I don't want him
calling me again
553
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,430
about another
Ed Snowden moment.
554
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:04,890
Okay?
555
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:07,100
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
556
00:32:08,270 --> 00:32:09,930
Why don't you take it easy
the rest of the day?
557
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,850
Go work on
the scrubbing pile.
558
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,430
That didn't look
like it went well.
559
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,810
Oh, hey, man. Uh, yeah.
No, I just got a derog
for doing my job.
560
00:32:24,890 --> 00:32:28,470
(CHUCKLES) Politics, man.
The culture of fear
wins again.
561
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,930
I can't get
anything done here.
Yeah.
562
00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:35,010
Hey, um, what about that idea
that we were talking about?
563
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:36,680
I'm working on it.
I'm waiting for a call back
564
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,260
from our friend
at The Hill.
565
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:40,060
Who, Corbin?
You called Corbin?
Hmm.
566
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:41,470
You think he can
do something?
567
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560
We'll see.
Maybe some limited field ops
under my supervision.
568
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,180
Yes, that would be amazing.
I would love...
569
00:32:46,270 --> 00:32:50,010
Easy, Ed. I've gotta
see a cleric in Milan.
We'll talk after.
570
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:51,930
Okay. Thank you.
571
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:57,510
(MACHINE WHIRRING)
572
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:09,100
(KNOCKS)
573
00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:12,810
Damn, CIA does not like
to leave a trace, huh?
574
00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:13,890
Can I help you?
575
00:33:13,970 --> 00:33:15,680
You get curious
to check one out?
576
00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:18,310
See what kind of crazy-ass
covert kill mission
577
00:33:18,390 --> 00:33:19,470
you might be erasing
from history?
578
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,640
I'm sorry,
who are you with?
579
00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:23,430
No Such Agency.
I'm Gabriel Sol.
580
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,850
I'm the 50-pound brain
from the Council of
Wizards and Warlocks.
581
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:28,640
Excuse me?
582
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,930
Giving you your intel
for Bucharest, dude.
Oh.
583
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:32,930
Unless there's
another Dave Churchyard.
584
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:35,640
No. That's me.
Right this way.
585
00:33:39,970 --> 00:33:42,260
I'll be right outside.
Stay if you want.
586
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:46,850
(SYSTEM BEEPS)
Uh, I don't have authorization
to use NSA programs.
587
00:33:46,930 --> 00:33:48,010
Well, if you're
the messenger to Bucharest,
588
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,510
you must have
a PRIVAC clearance
589
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,220
to see the finished
intel, yes?
590
00:33:52,060 --> 00:33:53,010
Yeah...
591
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,260
GABRIEL: Yeah, so what
difference does it make
592
00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:55,600
if you see how
it's put together?
593
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,100
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
594
00:33:58,220 --> 00:33:59,760
Well, it's up to you, man.
595
00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:07,310
Uh, you're giving me
just names?
596
00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:08,930
Uh, and a lot more
than names.
597
00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:12,390
What I will be providing you
and the fine gentlemen
of the Secret Service
598
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:17,350
is a list of every threat
made about the President
since February 3rd.
599
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:19,930
And a profile of
every threat-maker.
600
00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:24,850
And these are, like,
existing targets?
601
00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:28,100
99% are gonna come from
the bulk collection program,
so...
602
00:34:28,270 --> 00:34:30,060
Upstream, Muscular,
Tempora, PRISM.
603
00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:31,930
PRISM?
604
00:34:33,930 --> 00:34:35,760
You got a little
Snow White in you.
605
00:34:36,890 --> 00:34:40,140
Which makes me feel like
the witch bringing you
a poisoned apple.
606
00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:42,510
Here. Exhibit A.
607
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,810
Oakland resident Justin Pinsky
posted on a message board,
608
00:34:45,890 --> 00:34:48,640
"Romania has a storied history
of executing their leaders,
609
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,560
"couldn't they do us a solid
and take out Bush?"
610
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,430
Now this looks juicy.
This is from a G-chat.
611
00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:00,760
"...with the biggest python
you've ever seen." Hmm.
612
00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:04,260
How is this all possible?
613
00:35:04,350 --> 00:35:06,350
Um, keyword selectors.
614
00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:08,600
"Attack," "take out Bush."
615
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:11,930
So think of it as
a Google search,
616
00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:13,970
except instead of searching
only what people make public,
617
00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:16,260
we're also looking at
everything they don't. So...
618
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Emails, chats,
SMS, whatever.
619
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,430
Yeah, but which people?
620
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,430
The whole kingdom,
Snow White.
621
00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:28,100
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
622
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,180
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
623
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,350
Which ambassador
was he again?
624
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:35,010
De La Hoya, with
World Trade Organization.
625
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,180
Right.
626
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,760
(STRING QUARTET PLAYING)
627
00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:51,010
MATT: So...
628
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,470
O'Brian came through
for you.
629
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,260
He agrees your talents
are being wasted. You ready
for a little action?
630
00:35:58,060 --> 00:36:00,600
Really? What,
you mean right here?
631
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,010
Yeah. Now.
632
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:05,180
See the woman in
the pink number?
633
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:10,010
Credit Suisse.
J. P. Morgan's on her arm.
Grandma's with Deutsche Bank.
634
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:11,930
Ten thousand bankers
in this town.
635
00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:13,930
All you need to turn is one.
636
00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:16,100
Socialize. Meet a few.
637
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:18,930
Preferably ones sitting ona pile of dirty Saudi money
638
00:36:19,020 --> 00:36:20,390
that's funding bin Laden.
639
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:23,760
Thank you very much.
Church. Church.
Sure. Churchyard.
640
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,760
(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)
641
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,350
Mr. Debrinin asks
your business card, please.
642
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,100
An ambassador. Wow!
(LAUGHING)
643
00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:39,180
I wish I had your
schmoozing skills.
644
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:41,100
Uh, well,
that's why you have me.
645
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:43,930
Yeah. You don't know
any bankers, do you?
Bankers?
646
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,260
Are you on some kind of
assignment or something?
647
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,060
Um,
"Relationship cultivating."
(SIGHS) And not well.
648
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,850
Let me help you.
649
00:36:55,930 --> 00:36:57,060
No.
Yeah.
650
00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:59,640
No, this is serious.
I know it's serious.
651
00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:00,970
Trust me.
652
00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:04,260
Any luck?
653
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,810
No, no bites.
654
00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:09,640
Is there some kind
of trick to it?
655
00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:12,600
It's all about finding
the pressure point.
656
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,720
Everything else is
just pushing on it.
657
00:37:17,390 --> 00:37:18,930
Looks like
you're being summoned.
658
00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:26,430
...we have to pay extra...
Marwan?
May I interrupt?
659
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:27,680
This is
my boyfriend, Dave.
660
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,260
Hello, Dave.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
661
00:37:30,350 --> 00:37:31,430
Marwan works at Monfort.
662
00:37:32,510 --> 00:37:35,010
We were talking,
and after last week,
663
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:36,890
he may be able
to give you some tips.
664
00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:39,510
Gentlemen,
I'll see you inside.
Last week?
665
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:44,430
He's embarrassed.
It was a lot
of money for us.
666
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,970
Day trading is
a perilous sport.
(LAUGHS)
667
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,470
You shouldn't
be ashamed of it.
Yeah.
668
00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:54,850
I'm gonna grab some food.
See you guys inside?
669
00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:56,060
Sure.
670
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,220
You have
a lovely girlfriend.
Thank you so much.
671
00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:03,310
You know, I work in lT,
and so I just figured
672
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:06,140
I could crack the market
like a weak network.
673
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:09,310
May I ask, how precipitous
were your losses?
674
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,180
Well, I told Lindsay
it was 20,000,
675
00:38:13,260 --> 00:38:16,100
but between you and me,
it was closer to 45.
676
00:38:16,930 --> 00:38:20,350
Tried to recoup,
but that was a mistake,
677
00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:22,010
and now without
any real grounding,
678
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,680
I feel like I'm just
sliding out of control.
679
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Oh, I have seen it
many times.
680
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:27,510
And I'm always happy
to help a man
681
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,850
break a bad habit
before it gets going.
682
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:31,760
Oh, thank you.
I really appreciate that.
683
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,850
GABRIEL: This is the cleanest
Pakistani I've ever seen.
684
00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:39,100
We got no first-degree ties
to government or lSl,
685
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:40,600
no shady family.
686
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,350
I mean, second-degree contacts
are off the charts,
687
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:45,010
but that's... l mean,
that's everyone
in the Middle East
688
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,350
with a six-figure income.
689
00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:50,220
Well, it's not dirt
that we need necessarily,
it's a pressure point.
690
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:53,430
Something intimate,
some kind of weakness.
691
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,810
Can we look through
his family?
Mmm-hmm.
692
00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:01,260
GABRIEL: How about
his sister-in-law?
693
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Yeah.
694
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:09,470
What is that,
is that some video
that she sent somebody?
695
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,930
No, this is live.
Out of Paris.
696
00:39:12,220 --> 00:39:13,430
What do you mean, live?
697
00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:17,220
GABRIEL: Optic Nerve.
It's camera
and mic activation.
698
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,390
I wish we could take credit,
but the Brits wrote it.
699
00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:20,810
Activation?
700
00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:22,810
GABRIEL: Yeah,
her laptop's off.
701
00:39:22,890 --> 00:39:24,510
Or was, she just
forgot to close it.
702
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Of course,
how would she know?
703
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:28,260
This shit is so sly,
the webcam light
doesn't even turn on.
704
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:38,850
Hmm. I always wondered
what was under those.
705
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:48,810
Okay, look, let's stick
to family in Geneva.
706
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:50,350
All right?
707
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:52,430
Okay, Snow White.
Uh...
708
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:55,930
Fifteen-year-old daughter
at the lnternational School.
709
00:39:56,020 --> 00:40:00,350
Yeah. Uh, Facebook?
Is that possible?
710
00:40:00,430 --> 00:40:02,100
Dude,
Facebook's my bitch.
711
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:03,640
Seriously?
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
712
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:07,100
Like, she fights
with her parents, or...
713
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:10,470
Don't worry, don't worry.
I know all the hooks
for this kind of fishing.
714
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:14,930
Uh, query name.
So email, keyword,
whatever selector you want.
715
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,760
And justification
is where I write...
716
00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:24,140
In other words,
turning your daddy
into a CIA informant.
717
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:26,390
Wait, that's it?
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
That's it, bro.
718
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:30,060
You don't have to get
a FISA court order?
719
00:40:30,510 --> 00:40:33,010
Mmm-mmm. No, not here.
XKeyscore's under
702 authority,
720
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:34,930
which means no warrants.
721
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:38,680
Okay, but U.S. targets
then, you'd have to get
the court order?
722
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,310
You mean FISA? Yeah,
they're just a big-ass
rubber stamp, dude.
723
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:44,060
I mean, FISA judges
are all appointed by
724
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:46,720
the Chief Justice,
who's like, you know...
725
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:50,810
Darth Vader when it comes
to national security. Boom.
726
00:40:51,310 --> 00:40:52,760
Here we go.
727
00:40:54,810 --> 00:41:00,220
Okay, okay. And the boy
at third base is...
728
00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:07,600
Nadim. Okay. He's 18.
729
00:41:08,890 --> 00:41:09,970
Salma says she wants
to marry him,
730
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:11,850
but is scared of
telling her parents.
731
00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:17,260
What she doesn't know
is that his other name
is Nicolas.
732
00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:21,100
And he's currently banging
Geraldine and Julie.
733
00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:24,220
And...
734
00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:31,140
He and his Turkish mother
are here illegally.
735
00:41:36,430 --> 00:41:37,470
That's it.
736
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:40,390
(MUSIC PLAYING)
737
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:42,260
(MUSIC PLAYING)
738
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:48,010
STRIPPER:
Ah, you like that?
739
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,640
MARWAN: I love these.
740
00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:54,430
Man, what are
we doing here?
741
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:57,310
You're making people
very happy.
742
00:41:57,390 --> 00:41:59,890
Mr. Marwan's bank
handles serious Saudi money,
743
00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:02,260
and a whole bunch of
Russian billionaires.
744
00:42:02,350 --> 00:42:06,560
What about any
al-Qaeda money?
Anything promising?
745
00:42:07,930 --> 00:42:10,180
Ed, I'm up for
a promotion soon.
746
00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:12,140
I will not forget
my friends.
747
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,220
Thank you.
748
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:15,850
This is all going kind
of fast though, right?
(LAUGHS)
749
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:17,850
I mean, I just sent
some initial background.
750
00:42:17,930 --> 00:42:20,050
There he is!
The man!
751
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:21,390
Hey, Marwan!
752
00:42:21,470 --> 00:42:24,640
Dave. How wonderful
to see you.
753
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:25,970
Good to see you, too.
754
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:30,890
Uh, I was counting, Marwan,
you snuck in an extra
half hour back there.
755
00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:34,810
(LAUGHS) I'm afraid
she was merely listening
to an old man's woes.
756
00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:35,890
(LAUGHS) Oh, I see.
757
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:37,810
So, how are you,
Marwan?
758
00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:43,470
I must tell you,
Dave, since we met,
759
00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:47,430
my life has gone
somewhat topsy-turvy.
760
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Oh, no,
I'm sorry to hear that.
761
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:52,680
But your colleague
Charles here
762
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,970
has graciously
offered his help.
763
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,350
So I owe him and you
a great deal.
764
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:59,140
Can I ask
what happened?
765
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,350
My daughter had an...
766
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:06,390
Marwan's daughter
took too many sleeping pills.
767
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:08,050
She's all right.
768
00:43:08,140 --> 00:43:11,050
It had something to
do with her boyfriend,
who was recently deported.
769
00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:13,050
We're trying to secure
a visa for him.
770
00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:16,600
And even so,
I'm afraid that Salma will...
771
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,010
I'm sorry.
I won't trouble you
with such matters.
772
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:24,930
No, no, you... Hey.
You talk as much
as you want.
773
00:43:25,010 --> 00:43:27,680
All right?
Family comes first.
774
00:43:27,850 --> 00:43:29,260
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)
775
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,970
(ALL LAUGHING)
776
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:39,560
Whoa!
Oh!
777
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:41,640
There's my beauty.
778
00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:45,560
I'm never
like this before.
779
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,470
Oh, sure.
No, of course.
780
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,720
You sit down, huh?
Sit tight.
781
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:54,260
You sit tight.
(BOTH LAUGHING)
782
00:43:56,430 --> 00:43:57,850
What the fuck's
going on?
783
00:43:57,930 --> 00:43:59,890
I have been acting
swiftly and effectively
784
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:03,010
on the very good
signals intelligence
you've provided.
785
00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:05,510
And if his daughter
had died?
786
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,350
We could have
used that too.
787
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:09,510
Are you serious?
What, in the name
of a promotion?
788
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,010
(BEEPS)
789
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,050
Marwan can't be away
from his family right now.
790
00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:18,350
So in the morning,
when he's facing
a week in jail,
791
00:44:18,430 --> 00:44:21,510
we're going to offer him
a deal and he won't
turn it down.
792
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,760
Wait, jail? For what?
793
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,890
Drunk driving.
794
00:44:24,970 --> 00:44:27,350
Now, I want you
to call the police.
795
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:28,680
Tell 'em you saw
a Mercedes headed north...
796
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,970
No, he's not driving
right now.
797
00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:31,850
Look at him,
he'll kill himself.
798
00:44:34,930 --> 00:44:36,760
Okay. I'll call 'em.
Hey!
799
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:39,430
He's not driving.
800
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:44,260
Remind me, are you
authorized on any of
the NSA programs you used?
801
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,560
So we're both doing
a little fucked up
shit here, huh?
802
00:44:50,060 --> 00:44:52,390
Watch yourself, Ed.
I will tell him
who you are.
803
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:56,680
You reveal the identity
of an undercover officer,
804
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,430
you're going to jail
for a lot longer than Marwan.
805
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,760
MARWAN: Hey!
806
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:21,560
Hey.
807
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:23,430
Sorry I'm so late.
808
00:45:26,260 --> 00:45:27,560
How was work?
809
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:31,350
It was, uh...
810
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:35,430
(SIGHS)
it was all right. Yeah.
811
00:45:36,850 --> 00:45:40,050
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
I have to wake up in,
like, three hours.
812
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:41,600
My flight's at 7:00.
813
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,010
(SIGHS)
814
00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:46,890
Well, we'd better
be quick, then.
815
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:48,600
(BOTH CHUCKLING)
816
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:06,890
(MOANING)
817
00:46:08,890 --> 00:46:10,600
(BREATHES DEEPLY)
818
00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:19,760
(BOTH MOANING)
819
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,050
I will provide
our intelligence
and law enforcement agencies
820
00:46:36,140 --> 00:46:38,930
with the tools they needto track and take outthe terrorists
821
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:42,010
without underminingour constitutionand our freedom.
822
00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:44,680
(DOOR OPENS)
That means no moreillegal wiretapping
823
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,010
of American citizens.
824
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:49,350
No more ignoring the lawwhen it is inconvenient.
825
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:50,850
That is not who we are.
826
00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:52,510
Hey, hon.
Hey.
827
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:55,720
(LAUGHS) What happened
to the London trip?
828
00:46:55,850 --> 00:46:57,680
Uh...
(REPORTERS SPEAKING
lNDISTINCTLY ON TV)
829
00:46:58,140 --> 00:46:59,600
Turns out I'm not going.
830
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,720
Oh.
831
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:05,220
What's going on?
Who's winning?
832
00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:07,390
CORRESPONDENT:
...and Michelle Obama votedthis morning in Chicago.
833
00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:08,890
I voted.
CORRESPONDENT: In Arizona...
834
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,220
Still early.
835
00:47:10,310 --> 00:47:12,430
...John and Cindy McCainvoted, and then they landedin Colorado
836
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,350
to defend a traditionallyRepublican state
837
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:15,850
that has turnedinto a battleground.
838
00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:16,930
Hey. Let's see.
839
00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:20,560
WOLF: (ON TV)
Obama ahead 67% to 32%...
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
840
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,760
Come on, big ears.
Check out Florida.
841
00:47:28,930 --> 00:47:31,050
Holy shit,
he's gonna win it!
(LAUGHS)
842
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:33,510
What, Florida?
Yeah!
843
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,600
That's big. Yeah.
It's huge!
844
00:47:37,260 --> 00:47:40,680
You can act all nonchalant,
but I know you were starting
to root for him.
845
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,470
I've been watching
your inner liberal grow.
846
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,720
For which I will take
a modest percentage
of the credit.
847
00:47:45,810 --> 00:47:47,800
And you deserve it.
(LINDSAY LAUGHING)
848
00:47:47,890 --> 00:47:48,930
(CLEARS THROAT)
849
00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:52,430
What is this?
850
00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:53,720
WOLF: ...in Missouri.
851
00:47:53,890 --> 00:47:56,510
56% for McCain,43% for Obama.
852
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,100
Oh, yeah, that. Just...
Leave that there.
That's, uh...
853
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,180
Russian hackers.
The Agency says
854
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:06,800
they can activate
webcams now. So...
855
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:07,890
That's creepy.
856
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:10,220
Yes. it's really
bothering me.
857
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:13,850
Whatever. it's not
a big deal. You shouldn't
let it bother you.
858
00:48:13,970 --> 00:48:15,680
It's not
a big deal?
No.
859
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,100
What, that someone
could be watching you
right now?
860
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,390
No, I'm not
hiding anything.
861
00:48:22,510 --> 00:48:26,100
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
That's such a bullshit line.
What is?
862
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:28,640
I have nothing
to hide.
I don't.
863
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:29,890
Everyone does.
864
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,970
Okay, well then,
what do I have to hide?
865
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:35,800
(SIGHS) Forget it.
No, what do
I have to hide?
866
00:48:35,890 --> 00:48:37,720
No, never...
Let's just drop it.
867
00:48:37,810 --> 00:48:41,140
Well, apparently you
think that I'm hiding
something, so...(LAUGHS)
868
00:48:41,220 --> 00:48:43,640
Okay, the other day,
your computer was open,
869
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:46,510
and I happened to notice
you were on the site
where we met,
870
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,850
and you were looking
at other guys.
871
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:50,100
You just were looking
at my computer?
872
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:52,220
I wouldn't have
even brought this up.
873
00:48:52,310 --> 00:48:54,310
You asked me,
"What do I have to hide?"
874
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:56,390
That's something
you're not telling me.
875
00:48:58,260 --> 00:49:02,850
(STUTTERS)
Well, it's not...
I don't do anything,
876
00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:05,140
I don't meet any
of those people.
877
00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:09,850
You're gone for weeks
at a time.
878
00:49:09,970 --> 00:49:12,430
So it's like
I'm peering into
other peoples' lives
879
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,560
because my own is
just temporarily on hold.
880
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,100
That sounds like
an excuse.
881
00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:19,430
It's the truth.
882
00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:23,310
(SIGHS)
883
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:39,390
I should have told you.
And I didn't.
884
00:49:39,470 --> 00:49:43,100
I'm really sorry.
But it's not a big deal.
885
00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:48,930
Hey.
886
00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:54,390
(BREATHES DEEPLY)
887
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:01,640
Look at me.
I don't want anyone else.
888
00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:05,180
I don't want
any other life.
889
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,800
Okay?
890
00:50:22,510 --> 00:50:23,930
Listen, uh...
891
00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:29,510
I didn't go to London today
'cause I resigned.
892
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,720
What?
893
00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:34,970
It was personal differences,
894
00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:37,140
and it was a matter
of principle.
895
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:39,850
Can you tell me
anything else?
896
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,890
Do you get
reposted, or...
897
00:50:44,970 --> 00:50:47,600
No, no, I resigned
from the CIA.
898
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:51,140
LINDSAY: So what does
that mean? What do we do?
899
00:50:51,220 --> 00:50:54,640
I don't know. I'll figure
it out, but listen, l...
900
00:50:57,180 --> 00:51:00,550
This is a good thing.
Trust me.
901
00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:06,430
I do.
902
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,010
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)
903
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,100
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
904
00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:18,760
Hey.
Hmm?
905
00:51:19,220 --> 00:51:20,390
He's gonna win.
906
00:51:21,970 --> 00:51:23,510
WOLF: (ON TV) 52% for Obama,
48% for McCain.
907
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,800
Yeah, he'd better.
908
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:30,010
CNN can now project thatBarack Obama, 47 years old,
909
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:32,800
will become the Presidentof the United States.
(PEOPLE CHEERING)
910
00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:36,890
OBAMA: (ON TV) Every agency
and department should knowthat this administration
911
00:51:36,970 --> 00:51:38,220
stands on the side
912
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:40,430
not of those who seek
to withhold information,
913
00:51:40,510 --> 00:51:42,350
but those who seek
to make it known.
914
00:51:45,010 --> 00:51:46,850
GLENN: Janine is
the website editor
915
00:51:46,930 --> 00:51:49,890
of a small stateside office
of a British newspaper,
916
00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:52,510
up against the most powerful
government in the world.
917
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,850
EWEN: She won't be bullied.
918
00:51:54,260 --> 00:51:56,310
We need to establish
that we're not compromising
919
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:58,220
national security
by publishing.
920
00:51:58,310 --> 00:51:59,850
GLENN: We need
to have alternatives.
921
00:51:59,930 --> 00:52:01,260
Listen, Ed,
922
00:52:01,350 --> 00:52:03,720
the real issue here is that
they, the White House,
923
00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:07,100
are aware that Janine
has a leaked top secret
FISA court order.
924
00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:08,350
Anything could happen.
925
00:52:08,430 --> 00:52:09,850
They could subpoena
the Guardian
926
00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:11,010
and, for that matter,
they could
927
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:12,430
break through
that door any minute,
928
00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:14,470
ending all of this.
929
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,760
We are running
out of time.
930
00:52:16,850 --> 00:52:19,930
We seriously have to
think about doing this
on our own website.
931
00:52:20,010 --> 00:52:21,310
We have no choice.
932
00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:23,180
Wait, you can't just
start dumping articles
933
00:52:23,310 --> 00:52:25,100
on the lnternet, Glenn!
Be serious.
934
00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:27,850
Look at WikiLeaks.
It destroyed
their credibility.
935
00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:29,510
Look, Ed,
you said it yourself,
936
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,010
if this isn't done properly,
the world isn't
gonna take notice.
937
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,470
You need
experienced journalists
to lead the public
938
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,010
through some very,
very complicated stories.
939
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,600
We are
experienced journalists.
940
00:52:41,180 --> 00:52:42,510
My feeling...
(PHONE RINGING)
941
00:52:49,810 --> 00:52:53,010
Has anyone
called here before?
Not once. Not in three weeks.
942
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:54,680
Well, I'll...
Shall I answer it?
943
00:52:54,810 --> 00:52:56,430
I'll tell 'em it's
the wrong number.
944
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,260
Yes?
945
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,180
No, I don't.
946
00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:05,260
Okay. Thank you.
947
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,010
Asking if I want
turndown service.
948
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,600
She said the
"Do not disturb" sign
was off the door.
949
00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:19,390
(DOOR CLOSES)
950
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:27,260
(EWEN SIGHS)
951
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:30,430
(DOOR CLOSES)
952
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,850
So?
953
00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:36,100
Do we wait?
Or go on our own?
954
00:53:37,850 --> 00:53:39,010
Look, I said
from the beginning
955
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:42,100
that how you publish
is your business,
956
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:43,930
and I trust you.
957
00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:46,760
The only thing I ask
is you study the data,
you be responsible,
958
00:53:46,850 --> 00:53:49,510
no names, no specifics,
anything ongoing
959
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,720
that's critical,
you don't release.
960
00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:54,220
You just stick to the issue
of mass surveillance
961
00:53:54,310 --> 00:53:55,350
and let the people decide.
962
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:58,510
GLENN: You have our word on
that, but that's not the
question. We have to ask...
963
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,260
EWEN: Look, Ed, Ed,
964
00:54:00,350 --> 00:54:02,720
right now the White House is
arranging a conference call
965
00:54:02,810 --> 00:54:04,890
between Janine and
the intelligence services.
966
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:08,050
Now that's gonna happen
in a few hours.
967
00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:12,010
Let's at least wait for that,
see what they say to her.
968
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,640
I'd say we pause a moment.
969
00:54:19,930 --> 00:54:21,300
EWEN: Yeah, I think
we should reassemble
970
00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:22,850
in this room after
the call takes place,
971
00:54:22,930 --> 00:54:26,600
so that's around midnight.
Be noon in New York.
972
00:54:27,350 --> 00:54:28,850
All right.
973
00:54:28,930 --> 00:54:31,260
I'll take another pass
at the PRISM story
in the meantime.
974
00:54:31,350 --> 00:54:35,220
Okay. We'll be
in our hotel room
if you need us, okay?
975
00:54:35,310 --> 00:54:36,300
Thanks, Ewen.
976
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:37,550
Yeah.
Okay.
977
00:54:40,930 --> 00:54:42,260
(DOOR CLOSES)
978
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:47,930
Uh, do you mind maybe
we take a break from that?
979
00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:49,800
For a second?
980
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,390
Oh, yeah.
Sure, sorry.
(CAMERA BEEPS)
981
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,930
You wanna take a look?
Might make you feel better.
982
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:59,760
Oh. (LAUGHS)
it's not recording,
just on standby.
983
00:54:59,850 --> 00:55:01,180
Okay.
(LAUGHS)
984
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:07,180
When did this start for you?
Not wanting your photo taken?
985
00:55:07,470 --> 00:55:09,850
Uh, probably in Japan.
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
986
00:55:09,930 --> 00:55:12,430
I remember every time
a camera got pointed at me,
987
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:14,850
it was like...
Couldn't breathe.
988
00:55:15,850 --> 00:55:17,300
Why was that?
989
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,140
I probably, uh, spent too much
time looking at other people
through cameras.
990
00:55:23,260 --> 00:55:25,550
Japan was your
first NSA job, right?
991
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,600
Yeah, well,
as a contractor with Dell.
Had a lot of access.
992
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,100
LAURA: Why'd you go
back after Geneva?
993
00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:39,850
'Cause the money,
and 'cause I wanted
to live in Japan.
994
00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:41,680
And because of Obama,
actually.
995
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,390
You know, I thought
things were gonna
get better with him.
996
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,140
I was wrong.
997
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:54,600
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER
OVER PA)
998
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,850
LAURA:
What was it like there?
999
00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:58,890
SNOWDEN: Well,
in the first part of my day,
1000
00:55:58,970 --> 00:56:03,180
I was building thisround-the-clock backupsystem called Epic Shelter.
1001
00:56:03,260 --> 00:56:05,760
So, if there wassome catastrophe,
1002
00:56:05,850 --> 00:56:08,720
say, uh, terroristsburned down every embassy
1003
00:56:08,810 --> 00:56:11,350
and NSA post inthe Middle East.
1004
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:16,100
This program wouldensure we wouldn't loseany of that data.
1005
00:56:16,430 --> 00:56:20,180
But then, I wouldhave to put it asidewhen visitors would show up.
1006
00:56:20,260 --> 00:56:21,260
Hi, Ed.
1007
00:56:21,350 --> 00:56:26,140
SNOWDEN: NSA wanted
to impress the Japanese,show them our reach.
1008
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,850
They lovedthe live drone feeds.
1009
00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:32,100
This is over Pakistan.
1010
00:56:33,010 --> 00:56:34,350
Right now.
1011
00:56:34,930 --> 00:56:36,680
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
1012
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:40,600
SNOWDEN: They were not
as thrilled to learn thatwe wanted them to help us
1013
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,800
spy onthe Japanese population.
1014
00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:46,680
They said it wasagainst their laws.
1015
00:56:47,850 --> 00:56:50,010
Course we tappedthe entire country anyway.
1016
00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:52,930
And we didn't stop there,
1017
00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:55,140
'cause once we ownedtheir communications systems,
1018
00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:58,140
we started going aftertheir physical infrastructure.
1019
00:56:58,220 --> 00:57:02,510
We'd slip theselittle sleeper programsinto power grids,
1020
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,550
dams, hospitals,
1021
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,720
and the idea wasif the day came
1022
00:57:06,810 --> 00:57:09,180
when Japan wasno longer an ally,
1023
00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:10,600
it'd be lights out.
1024
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,510
(POWERING DOWN)
1025
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,050
And it wasn'tjust the Japanese.
1026
00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:18,640
We were planting malwarein Mexico, Germany,
1027
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,430
Brazil, Austria.
1028
00:57:21,970 --> 00:57:25,470
I mean, ChinaI can understand,or Russia, or lran,
1029
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,260
or Venezuela, okay.But Austria?
1030
00:57:28,350 --> 00:57:29,550
(COWBELL DINGS)
1031
00:57:30,010 --> 00:57:33,050
You're also being ordered
to follow most world leaders
1032
00:57:33,140 --> 00:57:34,720
and heads of industry.
1033
00:57:34,810 --> 00:57:38,100
You know, you're trackingtrade deals, sex scandals,
1034
00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:41,100
diplomatic cablesto give the U.S.
1035
00:57:41,180 --> 00:57:43,680
an advantage innegotiations at the G8,
1036
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,350
or leverage overBrazilian oil companies,
1037
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:51,600
or helping to oustsome third-world leaderwho's not playing ball.
1038
00:57:52,930 --> 00:57:55,180
And ultimately,the truth sinks in
1039
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:58,100
that no matterwhat justificationyou're selling yourself,
1040
00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:00,470
this is not about terrorism.
1041
00:58:02,010 --> 00:58:03,800
Terrorism is the excuse.
1042
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,470
This is about economicand social control.
1043
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:15,600
And the only thingyou're really protecting
1044
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,050
is the supremacyof your government.
1045
00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:30,510
LAURA: Were you thinking about
going to journalists then?
1046
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,550
No. No, that wouldn't have
occurred to me back then.
1047
00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:39,180
I just thought, you know,
the system will self-correct,
1048
00:58:39,260 --> 00:58:42,760
and the President
will keep his promise
that got him elected...
1049
00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:48,680
That's actually when
I first started reading
about you and your films.
1050
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,850
It was in Glenn's blog.
1051
00:58:49,930 --> 00:58:53,010
You were being detained
in airports for hours.
1052
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,930
Thirty-seven times.
For investigating
your own country's wars.
1053
00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:01,600
(SIGHS) That's why I'm going
back to Berlin to edit.
You can trust me with this.
1054
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:04,260
I do. Yeah.
1055
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:09,180
I haven't trusted
anyone in years.
1056
00:59:12,430 --> 00:59:18,010
It was a welcome changewhen they put me onterrorism watch duty.
1057
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,390
Every day, I'd go inand I'd get startingpoints for SIGINT,
1058
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:25,100
which is signals intelligence.
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1059
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,350
A lot of them were American,which felt strange,
1060
00:59:30,430 --> 00:59:32,260
but you just keepreminding yourself,
1061
00:59:32,350 --> 00:59:36,350
I could stopa dirty bomb attackand save thousands of lives.
1062
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:40,390
The thing is,you're not just followingyour bad guy targets.
1063
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:43,010
You're also followingtheir metadata,
1064
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:47,100
which is basicallyall the phone numbersthat they're in touch with.
1065
00:59:48,010 --> 00:59:51,720
Let's say your targetis a shady lranian banker
1066
00:59:51,810 --> 00:59:54,350
operating out of Beirut,okay.
1067
00:59:54,430 --> 00:59:56,850
So you're watching his stuff,but you're also watching
1068
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:59,390
all the peoplethat he talks to.
1069
00:59:59,470 --> 01:00:02,050
lncluding,you know, his cousin,
1070
01:00:02,140 --> 01:00:04,680
who's just some dentistliving in Buffalo.
1071
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,550
And then you have to watchall of that guy's contacts.
1072
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,010
And by the timeyou go a third hop outfrom the original target,
1073
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:16,600
you're watching this bartenderchat with her motherabout Botox.
1074
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,680
'Cause three hops from anyonewith, say, 40 contacts,
1075
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,390
you're looking at a listof 2.5 million people.
1076
01:00:26,930 --> 01:00:29,050
And there's thatmoment when
1077
01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:32,720
you're sitting there andthe scale of it hits you.
1078
01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:37,510
The NSA is really trackingevery cell phone in the world.
1079
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,430
No matter who you are,
1080
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:42,180
every day of your life,you're sitting in a database
1081
01:00:42,260 --> 01:00:44,850
just readyto be looked at.
1082
01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:46,640
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
1083
01:00:55,390 --> 01:01:01,010
SNOWDEN: And not just
terrorists, or countries,or corporations, but you.
1084
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,640
Was Lindsay with you
in Japan?
1085
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:17,010
Japan was difficult
for us.
1086
01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:21,970
I guess you couldn't
talk about your work.
1087
01:01:22,180 --> 01:01:23,640
No. (LAUGHS)
1088
01:01:25,180 --> 01:01:28,890
There was this one night,
uh, towards the end,
1089
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,470
when, uh, we were supposed
to go climb Mount Fuji
the next day...
1090
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,390
(SONG PLAYING)
1091
01:01:40,810 --> 01:01:41,800
Wow!
1092
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,180
Are you gonna
post that on Twitter?
1093
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:47,260
No.
1094
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,010
They're just for me.
What do you think?
1095
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,550
You should delete those.
1096
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,390
That's not quite
the artistic critique
I was going for.
1097
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,350
I'm sorry. You just...
You should...
1098
01:01:59,430 --> 01:02:01,220
You can't have
stuff like that
on your hard drive.
1099
01:02:01,310 --> 01:02:02,350
LINDSAY: Yes, I can.
1100
01:02:02,430 --> 01:02:06,350
Can you just please...
I'm asking you,
can you delete them?
1101
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:08,430
Russian hackers again?
1102
01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:09,550
No...
1103
01:02:12,140 --> 01:02:13,430
Is it us?
1104
01:02:16,220 --> 01:02:17,350
It's classified.
1105
01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:20,140
Am I a target?
1106
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:21,470
Of course not.
1107
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,010
Clearly someone is looking
at my nude portraits.
1108
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:26,970
Okay. I shouldn't
have brought it up.
1109
01:02:27,050 --> 01:02:29,390
All right? it's issues
of national security.
1110
01:02:31,470 --> 01:02:33,640
Well, I am flattered
that my boobs
1111
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,600
are considered an issue
of national security,
1112
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,390
but you're gonna have to do
a lot better than that.
1113
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:39,930
I'd rather not talk
about stuff that could
land us in jail.
1114
01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:41,760
LINDSAY: So that's what
the Band-Aids are about, then?
1115
01:02:41,850 --> 01:02:43,680
And your camera phobia?
1116
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,970
Because of work?
1117
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:47,350
Are they watching us?
1118
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:49,720
Who are they watching?
No one, okay?
1119
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,430
Let's just stop
talking about it.
1120
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,180
Let's go to bed,
and wake up in the morning,
1121
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,890
and go climb this
fucking mountain.
All right?
1122
01:03:00,930 --> 01:03:02,300
Of course we're not
gonna talk about it.
1123
01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:03,720
What is that
supposed to mean?
1124
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,260
It means that we don't talk
about anything anymore.
1125
01:03:06,970 --> 01:03:09,600
You work 12-hour days,
you come home depressed,
1126
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,010
you play fucking video games,
and then you fall asleep.
1127
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:13,760
Yeah, I'm tired
'cause I have a job.
1128
01:03:13,850 --> 01:03:15,260
That's what pays
for this apartment
1129
01:03:15,350 --> 01:03:17,050
in the most expensive city
in the world.
1130
01:03:17,140 --> 01:03:20,390
Which you asked me to come to
knowing that I did not have
a work visa.
1131
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:21,680
Okay, what if
you had one?
1132
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,300
Would you really give up
your beautiful life
of eating and sleeping
1133
01:03:25,390 --> 01:03:27,930
and going out all the time?
You think you'd really
want a career?
1134
01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:31,350
A career like yours?
Where I'm miserable
all the time? No.
1135
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:33,600
That's called
responsibility.
1136
01:03:34,260 --> 01:03:36,350
(CHUCKLES) Fuck this.
1137
01:03:36,430 --> 01:03:38,260
You know what?
You have no fucking idea
1138
01:03:38,350 --> 01:03:41,010
what it's like
to be accountable
for other people's lives,
1139
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:43,180
because you live
in a fairy tale land
1140
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:45,180
where just there
are no consequences,
1141
01:03:45,260 --> 01:03:46,850
and no one ever gets hurt.
1142
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,100
(SIGHS)
1143
01:03:49,850 --> 01:03:54,260
(VOICE BREAKING) No. No,
you, you don't get hurt.
1144
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,100
(SOBS) I get
fucking crushed.
1145
01:03:57,220 --> 01:03:59,010
Fucking bullshit!
I've done nothing to you!
1146
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,050
That's exactly right.
You have done nothing!
1147
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:04,180
You don't hang out with me,
you don't laugh with me,
1148
01:04:04,260 --> 01:04:07,100
you don't even
fucking touch me anymore.
1149
01:04:09,310 --> 01:04:10,550
I'm sorry.
Stop!
1150
01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:12,800
No! (SOBS)
1151
01:04:25,890 --> 01:04:28,260
We, uh, never made
it to Mount Fuji.
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)
1152
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,430
And Lindsay left pretty
soon after that, and...
1153
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:36,640
I was really lonely there.
1154
01:04:38,260 --> 01:04:40,350
But after three months,
I left too. I went back
to Maryland.
1155
01:04:41,850 --> 01:04:43,350
(DOORBELL RINGING)
1156
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:05,760
(CHUCKLES)
1157
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,350
And I promised herI'd change.
1158
01:05:11,350 --> 01:05:13,180
And, uh, we movedback in together.
1159
01:05:13,260 --> 01:05:14,600
(PIANO MUSIC PLAYING)
Make sure your
knees stay bent,
1160
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,600
and then you can fully extend
once you feel stable. Ready?
1161
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,720
One, two, three.
1162
01:05:20,430 --> 01:05:21,430
All the way up.
1163
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:23,010
Now you wanna clench
between your knees.
1164
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,510
It'll burn,
but it's a good burn.
1165
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,550
Perfect.
1166
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,100
Twirl around.
1167
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,930
(CLAPPING)
Perfect! Oh, my God,
I'm so proud of you!
1168
01:05:32,010 --> 01:05:33,850
SNOWDEN:
When you're really happy,
1169
01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:37,260
there's a large part of youthat just wants to stay happy.
1170
01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:44,600
And you start to think,what could be moreimportant than this?
1171
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,260
What!
Is it okay?
1172
01:05:47,970 --> 01:05:50,100
Oh, my God.
It's so beautiful.
1173
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,680
SNOWDEN: You know,
lots of people cruisehappily through life.
1174
01:05:57,310 --> 01:05:58,760
Why can't I?
(CAMERA CLICKING)
1175
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,300
And I went back
to work at the CIA.
1176
01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:11,100
With backdoors...
1177
01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:13,930
My official title wasSolutions Consultant.
1178
01:06:14,890 --> 01:06:18,050
Basically I was hawkingoverpriced hardwarefor a living.
1179
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,850
But I thought
you had resigned?
1180
01:06:19,930 --> 01:06:22,390
Yeah, well,
it was all contract work
after Geneva.
1181
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:24,720
You know,
it's Booz Allen Hamilton,
1182
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,890
or Dell, in partnership
1183
01:06:26,970 --> 01:06:30,010
with CIA or NSA, DIA.
1184
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,640
That's the intelligencecommunity's revolving door.
1185
01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:38,640
How was it?
Being back in the States?
1186
01:06:39,140 --> 01:06:42,680
It was, uh, it was
really good to be home.
1187
01:06:45,010 --> 01:06:49,140
But Maryland was where things
started to turn for me.
1188
01:06:49,890 --> 01:06:54,550
Every time I felt likeI was finally letting goof all the anxiety
1189
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,220
and all the questions thatused to keep me up at night,
1190
01:06:57,310 --> 01:07:01,220
I'd learn something else,and I just couldn't ignore it.
1191
01:07:01,430 --> 01:07:05,220
Like, there were thesethree high-level officialsat the NSA,
1192
01:07:05,310 --> 01:07:08,010
Bill Binney, Ed Loomis,and Kirk Wiebe.
1193
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:12,300
They'd been filing complaintsabout abuse and overreachfor years.
1194
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:16,180
That's all they did,they just filed complaints,
1195
01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:19,430
and the FBIraided their homes.
1196
01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:21,050
Then there was Thomas Drake.
1197
01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:23,100
Like the other three guys,Drake was trying
1198
01:07:23,180 --> 01:07:25,430
to change thingsfrom the inside.
1199
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:27,930
But when nothing worked,he did go to the press.
1200
01:07:28,010 --> 01:07:31,930
So they hit himwith the Espionage Act,and we were shocked.
1201
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:33,930
The whole intel community.
1202
01:07:34,010 --> 01:07:35,300
SCOTT: (ON VIDEO)
Why do you thinkyou were charged?
1203
01:07:35,390 --> 01:07:36,930
To send a chilling message.
1204
01:07:37,310 --> 01:07:38,300
To whom?
1205
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:40,970
To other whistleblowers,to others in the government,
1206
01:07:41,050 --> 01:07:43,140
not to speak out.
1207
01:07:43,220 --> 01:07:47,260
Do not tell truth to power.We'll hammer you.
1208
01:07:48,850 --> 01:07:51,510
O'BRIAN: There's a new
program being developed
1209
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,930
at the NSA's op
center on Oahu.
1210
01:07:54,930 --> 01:07:58,510
You'd be going up against
Chinese cyber divisions.
1211
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:00,930
You interested?
1212
01:08:03,550 --> 01:08:06,850
Won't be
the vast sums of money
you're making now,
1213
01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:09,390
but you'd be performing
a critical service
for your country.
1214
01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:10,800
I know that's
important to you.
1215
01:08:10,890 --> 01:08:13,180
You mean service
like in Geneva?
1216
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:16,100
Matt was a mistake.
Shouldn't have
pushed you into that.
1217
01:08:16,180 --> 01:08:17,220
You didn't push me
into it.
1218
01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:19,430
I asked for exposure
to field ops,
you gave it to me.
1219
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:21,220
I won't hold that
against you.
1220
01:08:23,260 --> 01:08:25,760
Is there something
you do hold against me?
1221
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,100
You didn't tell me
we were running
1222
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:33,430
a dragnet on
the whole world, Corbin.
1223
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,390
(DOG BARKING)
1224
01:08:44,930 --> 01:08:47,100
(GUNSHOTS)
1225
01:08:57,050 --> 01:08:58,260
Great shooting, Ed.
1226
01:08:58,350 --> 01:08:59,680
Thank you.
1227
01:09:00,140 --> 01:09:01,720
That's terrific.
1228
01:09:02,260 --> 01:09:04,600
(LAUGHS) it's the one thing
in the Army I was good at.
1229
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,300
O'BRIAN:
You ever think, Ed,
1230
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:17,220
since the Second World War,
it's been 60 years
and still no WW lll.
1231
01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:19,260
Why?
1232
01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:24,180
Because we've used
our power generally
for the good of the world.
1233
01:09:24,890 --> 01:09:27,760
For prosperity, order.
1234
01:09:28,010 --> 01:09:29,720
How can we defend
ourselves against
1235
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,010
nuclear war, terror attacks,
cyber-attacks
1236
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:35,470
without a centralized
intel factory
1237
01:09:35,550 --> 01:09:37,430
working around the world
night and day?
1238
01:09:38,220 --> 01:09:41,050
So we should catalogue
billions of people's lives?
1239
01:09:41,140 --> 01:09:44,510
O'BRIAN: Most people already
catalogue their lives
for public consumption.
1240
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,760
Well, they catalogue
part of their lives,
and they do it by choice.
1241
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:50,260
We're not giving
them the choice.
We're just taking everything.
1242
01:09:50,350 --> 01:09:54,100
Most Americans
don't want freedom,
they want security.
1243
01:09:54,930 --> 01:09:56,510
It's a simple bargain. if...
1244
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,550
Good girl! Good girl!
(GROWLS)
1245
01:09:59,430 --> 01:10:01,180
if you want to play
with all the new toys
1246
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:04,220
and be safe, you pay
the price of admission.
1247
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,430
Yeah, except people,
1248
01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:10,260
they don't even know
they've made that bargain.
1249
01:10:10,350 --> 01:10:12,600
Where's the modern
battlefield, soldier?
1250
01:10:14,430 --> 01:10:15,430
Everywhere.
1251
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,140
(MAN SHOUTING)
O'BRIAN: What's the first
rule of battle?
1252
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:19,930
Never reveal
your position.
1253
01:10:20,890 --> 01:10:25,680
And if one
unauthorized person knew?
If Congress knew?
1254
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,510
So would the enemy.
1255
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,640
That, Mr. Snowden,
is the state of the world.
1256
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,390
Secrecy is security,
and security is victory.
1257
01:10:35,890 --> 01:10:38,220
(PEOPLE SPEAKING lNDISTINCTLY
IN THE DISTANCE)
1258
01:10:39,470 --> 01:10:40,930
(DOG BARKS)
1259
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:44,640
Thank you, sir.
1260
01:10:46,260 --> 01:10:47,470
Someone I want you
to meet.
1261
01:10:47,550 --> 01:10:49,510
MAN: Beautiful day
for it, wasn't it?
Perfect weather.
1262
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,100
Mr. Lowell. Jim.
1263
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:54,510
How are you?
Dorian.
1264
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,970
Alan.
Nice to see you.
1265
01:10:56,050 --> 01:10:57,140
O'BRIAN:
Welcome to the U.S.
1266
01:10:57,220 --> 01:10:58,800
How'd you make
out today, Corbin?
1267
01:10:58,930 --> 01:11:01,720
Uh, very mediocre.
Nothing like Ed here.
1268
01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:05,140
Apparently the Army's training
people to shoot straight.
1269
01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:07,010
So this is Ed Snowden.
1270
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,300
Yes, sir.
Pleasure to meet you.
1271
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:10,800
The brains
behind Epic Shelter.
That's right.
1272
01:11:10,890 --> 01:11:12,180
That's brilliant work.
Thank you, sir.
1273
01:11:12,260 --> 01:11:13,680
Yeah, I had a few questions
I wanted to ask you.
1274
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,600
Uh, Jim. Will you
excuse me, gentlemen?
1275
01:11:17,050 --> 01:11:18,470
Excuse me, Alan.
Nice to meet you.
1276
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:23,720
Yeah, it's proving very useful
to our UAV program.
1277
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,010
Yes, I heard.
With foreign site
intel transfer.
1278
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:28,680
Transfers happen
on collection now.
1279
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,100
They go straight
to the Pentagon,
Mossad if they need it.
1280
01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:34,930
Actionable immediately.
No one sees it.
1281
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:36,340
It's improved
the response time
1282
01:11:36,430 --> 01:11:38,300
of our drone pilots
by a factor of ten.
1283
01:11:38,930 --> 01:11:42,340
Tell me, Ed. You worked
signals intelligence
in Japan too, yes?
1284
01:11:42,430 --> 01:11:43,510
Yes, sir.
1285
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,340
How'd you like it?
1286
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:48,930
It was a very
empowering job, sir.
(LAUGHS)
1287
01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:53,220
With this new job in Hawaii,
you'd have even more access.
1288
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:57,430
I asked Corbin to
start the conversation.
But the offer is mine.
1289
01:11:59,470 --> 01:12:01,050
Take your time.
1290
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:02,260
It's going to
take a few months
1291
01:12:02,350 --> 01:12:04,640
to get this program
on its feet.
1292
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,340
If you'll excuse me,
gentlemen, I see dinner.
1293
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:10,260
ATTENDANT: Beer, sir?
Thank you.
1294
01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:12,760
Sir, for you?
Uh, no, thank you.
1295
01:12:18,430 --> 01:12:20,470
Epic Shelter was meant
as a backup program.
1296
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,180
Lowell is creating
this position for you, Ed.
1297
01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:27,850
You'd be the first contractor
outside Fort Meade
1298
01:12:27,930 --> 01:12:29,600
working counter-cyber.
1299
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,850
It's your ticket to the top.
1300
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,640
(MEAT SIZZLING)
1301
01:12:43,930 --> 01:12:45,600
POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Do you believe
the United States
1302
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,640
is the greatest country
in the world?
1303
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,340
Yes.
(BEEPING)
1304
01:12:50,890 --> 01:12:51,890
POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Have you ever used
1305
01:12:51,970 --> 01:12:54,640
any programs
you were unauthorized for?
1306
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,640
SNOWDEN: No.
1307
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:03,100
(BEEPS)
1308
01:13:14,050 --> 01:13:16,800
LINDSAY: We're not usually
supposed to submit
our own work,
1309
01:13:16,890 --> 01:13:20,180
but my editor said
she'd make an exception.
1310
01:13:20,260 --> 01:13:21,300
Pretty neat, huh?
1311
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,760
(GRUNTS) I get to
submit an entry.
1312
01:13:31,970 --> 01:13:34,550
You ignoring me
on purpose, or what?
1313
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,140
No. Sorry.
Shit. Uh...
1314
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,970
(SIGHS)
I was just thinking.
1315
01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:41,260
About what?
1316
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:48,930
I wanted to talk to you
about it at dinner,
1317
01:13:49,010 --> 01:13:51,260
but let's just...
Will you come sit down?
1318
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,800
Is everything okay?
1319
01:13:54,890 --> 01:13:56,090
Yeah.
1320
01:13:57,140 --> 01:13:58,390
Um...
1321
01:13:59,140 --> 01:14:03,090
The, uh, Deputy Director
of the NSA...
1322
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:04,640
Hmm?
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
1323
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,970
He offered me
a new position.
1324
01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:10,090
And, uh,
that was a while back,
and now they need an answer.
1325
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:13,430
Well, is it something
you want to do?
1326
01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:16,640
I'd be good at it.
1327
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,050
Can you tell me
anything about it?
(LAUGHING)
1328
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:23,090
(LAUGHS)
You know I can't.
1329
01:14:23,180 --> 01:14:26,010
I know. Mission first.
1330
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,010
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
1331
01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:30,760
Well, are there social perks?
White House galas, maybe?
1332
01:14:30,970 --> 01:14:34,970
The position
is in Hawaii.
1333
01:14:42,930 --> 01:14:45,800
We worked really hard
to get where we're at.
1334
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:50,470
And you're willing to
just rip it all up again?
1335
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:52,430
Like we finally have
a house that we love,
1336
01:14:52,510 --> 01:14:54,340
and a job that I like,
and real friends,
1337
01:14:54,430 --> 01:14:56,430
and we're close
to our families.
I... l understand.
1338
01:14:56,510 --> 01:14:59,390
And if you want to stay,
then we're staying.
1339
01:14:59,930 --> 01:15:01,010
That's it.
1340
01:15:02,350 --> 01:15:03,850
Don't just say that
'cause I wanna hear it.
1341
01:15:03,930 --> 01:15:04,930
I'm not.
1342
01:15:09,220 --> 01:15:11,600
I let you go once,
I'm not gonna do it again.
1343
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:18,470
(LID RATTLING)
1344
01:15:19,390 --> 01:15:21,300
Shit. I'm sorry.
The pasta.
1345
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:22,970
It's gonna...
One sec.
(LINDSAY CHUCKLES)
1346
01:15:34,350 --> 01:15:35,800
You know, I think I actually
came pretty close
1347
01:15:35,890 --> 01:15:37,930
to getting it
right this time.
1348
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:39,760
LINDSAY:
I'll get some candles.
1349
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,600
(VOICE ECHOING)
Oh, my God! Ed! Ed! Ed!
1350
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:26,760
(lNAUDIBLE)
1351
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,140
SNOWDEN: I know Tegretol.
1352
01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:43,300
I know it slows you down,'cause I've seen it in my mom.
1353
01:16:43,390 --> 01:16:46,090
She's taken all kindsof medications her whole life.
1354
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,140
Well, they work
in 70% of cases.
1355
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,850
Ed, epilepsy is
a serious condition.
1356
01:16:54,930 --> 01:16:57,850
If you have a seizure
driving yourself,
1357
01:16:57,930 --> 01:17:00,010
or with someone else
in the car,
1358
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:03,510
or you're in a place
where you could fall,
1359
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,090
this is not something
to be lightly regarded.
1360
01:17:06,180 --> 01:17:08,930
It's essential
you commit yourself
to this medication.
1361
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:12,680
Okay?
1362
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,720
Yeah.
1363
01:17:20,970 --> 01:17:22,470
After you.
Oh, thank you.
1364
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:23,850
(BOTH LAUGHING)
1365
01:17:26,850 --> 01:17:29,680
I've been thinking about
what the doctor said.
1366
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,260
About less stress.
1367
01:17:33,970 --> 01:17:35,930
A warmer climate
could help.
1368
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,260
(lNHALES DEEPLY)
1369
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,260
if Hawaii is something
that we decide
1370
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:46,550
would be better
for you, I'll go.
1371
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:06,680
EWEN: Janine,
how'd the White House
conversation go?
1372
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:07,760
JANINE: (OVER PHONE)
I made it quite clear
1373
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:10,760
that we were in possessionof an authenticFISA court order.
1374
01:18:10,850 --> 01:18:13,300
They wanted to see it.We refused.
1375
01:18:13,390 --> 01:18:15,760
Now I just pray thatit's actually authentic.
1376
01:18:17,260 --> 01:18:19,010
Are you actually
questioning that?
1377
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:21,930
Glenn, no one has ever seena FISA court order.
1378
01:18:22,010 --> 01:18:23,680
There's no precedent here.
1379
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,720
Our source risked his lifefor that document. it's real.
1380
01:18:27,390 --> 01:18:30,970
Tell us, did the White House
make any specific claims
1381
01:18:31,050 --> 01:18:34,430
about national security
that would prevent you
from publishing?
1382
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:40,300
No. I asked them repeatedly,and they had nosubstantive answer.
1383
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:41,680
Then, there you go!
What more do you want?
1384
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,510
You can go out and
know that you're safe.
1385
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,600
Glenn, I'd like totalk to Alan beforewe go any further.
1386
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:48,720
EWEN: When does he land?
1387
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,010
STUART: (OVER COMPUTER)
In six hours.
1388
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,090
No. Absolutely not!
We're sitting
ducks here, Janine.
1389
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:54,930
It's 1:00 p.m.
in New York.
1390
01:18:55,010 --> 01:18:56,680
If you don't get this out
in the next four hours,
1391
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,510
you'll miss the evening news
on the East Coast.
1392
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,050
But we can postlater tonight.
1393
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,550
I'm sorry, Glenn.
1394
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,840
But Alan's oureditor-in-chief,and I really think that...
1395
01:19:05,930 --> 01:19:08,760
Bullshit! The government
knows that we have
these documents now.
1396
01:19:08,850 --> 01:19:12,180
The CIA could barge through
this door any minute,
and you want more time!
1397
01:19:13,220 --> 01:19:16,090
Act like a fucking journalistand stop stringing us along!
1398
01:19:16,180 --> 01:19:19,340
I just stood my groundwith the goddamn White House!
1399
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:20,680
I've risked my career!
1400
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,680
How dare you questionmy commitment to this story!
1401
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,140
Okay, let's just
keep our voices down...
1402
01:19:24,220 --> 01:19:25,340
No, you're right.
I am questioning it.
1403
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:27,760
This is absolutely
inappropriate.
1404
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:30,600
We are publishing ourselves.
You're out.
1405
01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:32,680
(SCOFFS)
1406
01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:42,340
All right, Glenn.
1407
01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:44,760
We'll have it readyby 4:00 p.m.
1408
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:48,260
I have to go overthe story once more.
Why?
1409
01:19:48,430 --> 01:19:51,140
Because it stillneeds editing, damn you.
1410
01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:54,140
All this fuckingintelligence jargonis hurting our brains.
1411
01:19:54,220 --> 01:19:57,890
This PRISM story isstill incomprehensible.
1412
01:19:57,970 --> 01:19:59,470
PRISM is the second story,Janine.
1413
01:19:59,550 --> 01:20:01,390
Verizon is the first story.
1414
01:20:01,470 --> 01:20:04,010
Have it ready to post
by 4:00 p.m.,
5:00 at the latest.
1415
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:05,340
Ugh...
1416
01:20:05,550 --> 01:20:06,680
No games, or we're gone.
1417
01:20:11,390 --> 01:20:13,550
(HEAVY BREATHING)
1418
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,510
SNOWDEN: So, my new job
was counter-spying
1419
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:39,430
on the Chinese at the NSARegional Cryptological Centeron Oahu.
1420
01:20:41,470 --> 01:20:43,760
Hi.
You mind placing your
bag down there, sir?
1421
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,600
No personal laptops,
no USB sticks,
no cell phones,
1422
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,140
no electronic devices
of any kind?
1423
01:20:50,220 --> 01:20:51,260
No, sir.
1424
01:20:53,850 --> 01:20:55,600
(WOMAN SPEAKING
lNDISTINCTLY ON PA)
1425
01:21:00,010 --> 01:21:01,050
GUARD: Thank you.
1426
01:21:05,260 --> 01:21:06,390
Thank you.
1427
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,680
Snow White!
Is that you?
1428
01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:16,140
Gabriel?
1429
01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:18,600
Dude, what the hell
are you doing here?
(CHUCKLES) Wow!
1430
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:19,720
That's amazing.
1431
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:20,840
Oh, man.
1432
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,260
What, do you work here?
1433
01:21:22,350 --> 01:21:26,760
Yeah, yeah. Uh, three years,
two months, and five days.
1434
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:30,010
But who's
counting, right?
Yeah.
1435
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:33,340
It's like who knew
a secret underground
World War ll-era base
1436
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:35,510
would become munchie heaven
for a thousand geeks, right?
1437
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,090
So there's good pizza?
Good pizza, yeah.
1438
01:21:37,180 --> 01:21:38,180
That's important.
1439
01:21:38,260 --> 01:21:39,840
Elevator's slow
as shit, though.
1440
01:21:39,930 --> 01:21:40,890
Jesus.
1441
01:21:40,970 --> 01:21:42,180
GABRIEL: it's something
else, huh?
1442
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:47,390
Yeah. So, uh, what deck
are you working on?
1443
01:21:47,470 --> 01:21:50,090
You NTOC or ROC?
1444
01:21:52,930 --> 01:21:56,010
Between you and me? NTOC.
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
1445
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:57,590
Cool. You get to
hack the hackers.
1446
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:58,930
You're coming up
in the world.
1447
01:22:03,260 --> 01:22:05,050
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
1448
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,300
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)
Fresh brains
for you, Trevor.
1449
01:22:11,390 --> 01:22:13,590
Trevor James, lnteractive
Ops Division Chief.
1450
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:14,680
Ed Snowden.
1451
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,260
I've been briefed.
Next door is NTOC.
1452
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:20,260
Defense. That's where
you'll be working.
1453
01:22:21,220 --> 01:22:23,300
Over here we have ROC,
our offense.
1454
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:27,510
Now I move between the two.
We run a tight ship here,
Snowden.
1455
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,930
Yes, sir.
1456
01:22:29,010 --> 01:22:30,260
You'll be working
with Haynes.
1457
01:22:30,350 --> 01:22:31,760
Hey. Patrick Haynes.
1458
01:22:31,850 --> 01:22:33,180
Hey. Nice to meet you.
Good to have you.
1459
01:22:33,260 --> 01:22:34,510
You watch out for him.
1460
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,340
That's the smartest guy
in the building right here.
1461
01:22:36,430 --> 01:22:37,430
(CHUCKLES)
Come on.
1462
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:39,010
Bro, how many languages
you speak, again?
1463
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:42,090
I mean, seven in code,
six spoken, two signs.
1464
01:22:42,180 --> 01:22:43,180
That's cool.
1465
01:22:48,430 --> 01:22:51,260
Great. Another language
I can't understand.
1466
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:52,720
Uh, I'll check you
later, Ed.
1467
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,890
Okay. See you.
1468
01:22:58,260 --> 01:22:59,640
TREVOR: Wait for it.
1469
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:03,260
Any moment.
1470
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:07,050
TECHNICIAN: We got 'em.
1471
01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:08,430
TREVOR: Lights over
Waziristan, gentlemen.
1472
01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:10,140
Way to go.
1473
01:23:10,220 --> 01:23:12,930
So what exactly do we
contribute to this?
1474
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:14,640
The underside of
that Reaper drone
1475
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,510
is fixed with
a big-ass antenna,
1476
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,340
snarfing the hardware lD
of anything that broadcasts.
1477
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:21,680
We do the geolocator.
1478
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:22,890
My friend Tasha
here at the Air Force
1479
01:23:22,970 --> 01:23:24,590
rains hellfire.
There she is now.
1480
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:26,840
FEMALE DRONE PILOT:
Hey, Trev.You likin' the show?
1481
01:23:27,390 --> 01:23:29,470
You know it. We track 'em,
you whack 'em.
1482
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,390
SNOWDEN: And who
did we just track?
1483
01:23:32,180 --> 01:23:33,760
Not who, what.
1484
01:23:33,850 --> 01:23:37,010
We're targeting
bad guys' cell phones.
Sometimes the SIM card.
1485
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:39,510
Okay, and how do we
know the bad guy
1486
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,180
is in possession of
the bad cell phone
1487
01:23:41,260 --> 01:23:42,430
when we strike?
1488
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:43,550
Well, we don't...
1489
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,640
Course we do. JSOC and CIA
have their people
in the field.
1490
01:23:47,970 --> 01:23:49,470
What's the program name?
1491
01:23:50,350 --> 01:23:51,800
Epic Shelter.
1492
01:23:51,890 --> 01:23:55,050
It was originally some
backup program for, um...
1493
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:57,550
Catastrophic site failure.
1494
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,590
Yeah. How did
you know that?
1495
01:24:00,970 --> 01:24:02,010
I built it.
1496
01:24:02,260 --> 01:24:03,430
You?
Yeah.
1497
01:24:04,430 --> 01:24:06,260
You know I've actually...
I've been thinking about, uh,
1498
01:24:06,350 --> 01:24:08,510
another use
for Epic Shelter.
1499
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:09,640
What'd you have
in mind?
1500
01:24:10,510 --> 01:24:12,550
Well, I was chatting
with Jim Lowell
1501
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:13,640
about how there's
so many programs...
1502
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,760
Deputy Director Lowell?
1503
01:24:14,850 --> 01:24:17,010
Yeah. Yeah.
1504
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:19,300
And we were saying there's
so many programs nowadays,
1505
01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:21,430
it's kind of impossible
to keep track of them
anymore, right?
1506
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:24,180
So why not create
a centralized database.
1507
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,010
Ah. Like an index.
1508
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:28,430
Yeah, exactly.
Something that updates
in real time,
1509
01:24:28,510 --> 01:24:32,220
you know, we've already got
Epic Shelter collecting
our finished intel.
1510
01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:35,760
We just need a web portal
to catalogue it,
make it searchable.
1511
01:24:36,890 --> 01:24:38,300
Let me think about it.
1512
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:40,390
In any case,
I'd have to run it
past Fort Meade.
1513
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:41,470
SNOWDEN: Of course.
1514
01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:42,720
Did you have a name?
1515
01:24:43,550 --> 01:24:45,930
Yeah, if it's not taken,
I'd call it Heartbeat.
1516
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:51,140
Heartbeat.
FEMALE DRONE PILOT:
Six, five, four,
1517
01:24:51,220 --> 01:24:54,590
three, two, one...
1518
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,010
Engage target.
1519
01:25:11,050 --> 01:25:12,510
LINDSAY:
You okay down there?
1520
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,720
Yep.
1521
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:18,260
See, this is why I keep saying
we need to hike more.
1522
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:20,390
SNOWDEN: You're right.
1523
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:21,930
Hey, can you
look at me?
1524
01:25:22,010 --> 01:25:23,010
Oh!
1525
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,260
LINDSAY: Come on.
It's been years.
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
1526
01:25:26,350 --> 01:25:29,260
By social media standards,
you don't even exist anymore.
1527
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:30,930
Just one.
1528
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,930
Okay, smile.
Show me your teeth!
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
1529
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,340
My elusive E,
finally captured.
1530
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:41,300
So now I'm
a viable boyfriend?
1531
01:25:41,390 --> 01:25:42,590
Yes.
(LAUGHS)
1532
01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:47,890
Such a shame, you used
to be such a cute
little model.
1533
01:25:47,970 --> 01:25:49,010
Little?
Yeah.
1534
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:51,220
Was I little?
Wait! (LAUGHING)
1535
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:54,760
Stop!
1536
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,640
Oh, my God.
What?
1537
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,680
Think you got
some sun!
(CHUCKLES)
1538
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,840
I'm serious,
it looks good!
1539
01:26:02,930 --> 01:26:04,300
Well, that's impossible.
1540
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:09,050
Hey, um,
I've been meaning
to ask you, by the way.
1541
01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:10,430
Did you switch
pharmacies?
1542
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,890
'Cause I tried to pick up
your prescription,
1543
01:26:16,430 --> 01:26:18,260
and I couldn't.
1544
01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:19,590
Why did you do that?
1545
01:26:22,050 --> 01:26:25,550
Uh, because I was there
and thought it would
be helpful.
1546
01:26:37,890 --> 01:26:39,800
I stopped taking
the Tegretol.
1547
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,260
What? When?
1548
01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:46,010
A couple months ago.
1549
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,180
And you're just
now telling me?
1550
01:26:47,260 --> 01:26:49,010
I wanted to tell you.
1551
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:52,340
I did, I just...
I can't take that stuff,
it makes me groggy,
1552
01:26:52,430 --> 01:26:54,930
and I need to be
sharp for work.
1553
01:26:55,010 --> 01:26:56,640
I need to be
on the ball
all the time.
1554
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:57,840
What is it about
this fucking job
1555
01:26:57,930 --> 01:27:00,390
that makes it more
important than your life?
1556
01:27:00,470 --> 01:27:01,590
(SIGHS)
1557
01:27:01,930 --> 01:27:03,090
I don't understand.
1558
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:04,510
Our government...
1559
01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:08,590
Our government, what?
1560
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:12,890
Our government
is hemorrhaging
billions of dollars
1561
01:27:12,970 --> 01:27:15,510
every year
to Chinese hackers.
1562
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,090
And I've been hired
to shut them down.
1563
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,550
A lot of people
are depending on me.
1564
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,590
More so than
anyone else?
1565
01:27:28,260 --> 01:27:29,260
Yes.
1566
01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:35,930
No, this is bullshit.
1567
01:27:39,340 --> 01:27:43,470
We didn't come to Hawaii
for you to heal, did we?
1568
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,930
There was never gonna be
a less stressful job out here.
1569
01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:49,840
Look, I feel like
I'm made to do this.
1570
01:27:49,930 --> 01:27:54,890
And if I don't do it,
then I don't know
anybody else that can.
1571
01:27:57,430 --> 01:28:02,260
It's like I'm on a trajectory
that I can't turn back from.
1572
01:28:05,390 --> 01:28:06,890
LINDSAY: You can
always turn back.
1573
01:28:11,390 --> 01:28:12,590
SENATOR WYDEN:
What I wanted to see
1574
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,090
is if you could give mea yes or no answerto the question,
1575
01:28:16,180 --> 01:28:20,590
"Does the NSA collectany type of data at all
1576
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,090
"on millions or hundredsof millions of Americans?"
1577
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:26,260
DIRECTOR CLAPPER: No, sir.
1578
01:28:26,890 --> 01:28:28,340
SENATOR WYDEN: it does not?
1579
01:28:30,010 --> 01:28:31,510
Not wittingly.
1580
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,180
There are cases wherethey could inadvertently,
1581
01:28:34,260 --> 01:28:36,140
perhaps, uh, collect,
1582
01:28:36,220 --> 01:28:37,800
but not wittingly.
1583
01:28:37,890 --> 01:28:39,090
Oh, really?
1584
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:41,140
SENATOR WYDEN:
Thank you, and I'll haveadditional questions
1585
01:28:41,220 --> 01:28:43,090
to give you in writingon that point.
1586
01:28:43,180 --> 01:28:44,300
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1587
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:45,760
SNOWDEN: Okay, so, uh,
1588
01:28:45,850 --> 01:28:48,090
what I wanted to
show you guys is, um,
1589
01:28:48,180 --> 01:28:51,680
the slide I ran across
while building
this indexing program.
1590
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:53,140
And what is this?
1591
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:55,010
Okay. So, this is
data collection
1592
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:57,010
for the month of March
1593
01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:59,340
worldwide,
emails and Skype calls.
1594
01:28:59,430 --> 01:29:05,760
So France, 70 million.
Germany, 500 million.
Brazil, two billion.
1595
01:29:06,470 --> 01:29:08,510
Inside the U.S.,
1596
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,800
3. 1 billion emails and calls.
1597
01:29:11,890 --> 01:29:14,260
That's not including
any of the telecom
company data.
1598
01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:16,180
PATRICK: Okay, so what's
the collection in Russia?
1599
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,300
SNOWDEN: Russia
is 1 .5 billion.
1600
01:29:20,390 --> 01:29:22,010
Wait, so we're collecting
twice as much
1601
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:23,680
in the U.S.
as we are in Russia?
1602
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:24,840
Yeah, I figured it
was a lot, but...
1603
01:29:24,930 --> 01:29:27,180
GABRIEL: This shit
is out of hand, man.
1604
01:29:27,260 --> 01:29:29,300
Wait. Have you shown
this to anyone else?
1605
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:31,180
No, you guys
are the first.
1606
01:29:31,260 --> 01:29:33,470
Yeah, yeah, you know,
I'd be careful about that.
1607
01:29:33,550 --> 01:29:35,510
You know, it could seem
like you're rocking the boat.
1608
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,590
SNOWDEN: Yeah, you're right.
1609
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,890
No, I just, uh,
I needed to know
1610
01:29:38,970 --> 01:29:41,260
if I was the only one that
thought this was crazy.
1611
01:29:41,930 --> 01:29:43,340
TREVOR: What the fuck's
going on?
1612
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:44,470
CATFISH: Hey, Trev.
1613
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:45,590
What are you doing
in here?
1614
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:46,890
It's nothing.
I was just showing them
1615
01:29:46,970 --> 01:29:49,430
this one slide,
I needed some input.
1616
01:29:49,510 --> 01:29:50,640
Why the heat map?
1617
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,340
It's my bad, Trev.
1618
01:29:52,430 --> 01:29:54,430
I made a bet with Ed
about which country
1619
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:57,090
we were collecting
the most signals from.
1620
01:29:57,180 --> 01:29:59,090
He said lran,
I said Pakistan.
1621
01:30:00,260 --> 01:30:01,590
Who won?
1622
01:30:02,260 --> 01:30:03,390
Ed.
1623
01:30:03,470 --> 01:30:04,470
(SOFT CHUCKLE)
1624
01:30:06,010 --> 01:30:08,260
GABRIEL: Yeah, I need to
head out. I'll see you guys.
1625
01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:09,510
You're going
down next time, man.
1626
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:10,720
Yeah, okay.
1627
01:30:11,890 --> 01:30:13,510
No more bets.
1628
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,590
And I don't want anyone
unauthorized in here again.
1629
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,090
Especially not
with Heartbeat.
1630
01:30:17,180 --> 01:30:18,930
You're right.
Won't happen again.
1631
01:30:23,930 --> 01:30:24,930
(SIGHS)
1632
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:34,930
ALL: Happy birthday!
1633
01:30:35,220 --> 01:30:36,800
(APPLAUSE AND CHATTER)
1634
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:43,140
CATFISH: ...in Vegas,
looking at Afghanistan.
1635
01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:45,340
So we're running late hours.
1636
01:30:45,430 --> 01:30:48,220
So this blurry object
comes wandering
into the strike zone.
1637
01:30:48,930 --> 01:30:50,800
We all knew
that it was a kid.
1638
01:30:51,090 --> 01:30:52,090
Poof.
1639
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:53,470
He's gone.
1640
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,840
We called in
for clarification,
and the report came back
1641
01:30:56,930 --> 01:30:58,640
that it was a dog.
1642
01:30:59,340 --> 01:31:00,800
Okay. Fine.
1643
01:31:01,430 --> 01:31:05,550
Shift's long, day and night.
I don't remember.
1644
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,550
But same village,
two, three days later.
1645
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,890
We see the funeral party.
1646
01:31:09,970 --> 01:31:12,180
We knew it was a kid
that they were burying.
1647
01:31:12,260 --> 01:31:14,470
Moms and dads wailing.
1648
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:17,260
And then the order comes down.
Pretty clear. Hit 'em.
1649
01:31:17,930 --> 01:31:18,930
Poof.
1650
01:31:21,220 --> 01:31:24,010
And they are gone
in a cloud of dust.
1651
01:31:28,140 --> 01:31:30,680
I mean, all of them.
(CHUCKLING) The whole
fuckin' family.
1652
01:31:31,390 --> 01:31:33,300
But the crazy thing is,
1653
01:31:33,390 --> 01:31:35,220
you come home after work,
1654
01:31:35,300 --> 01:31:39,430
kiss your wife, your kids,
back to work the next day.
1655
01:31:39,550 --> 01:31:44,680
Pretty soon, you know,
it just all becomes routine.
1656
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:47,470
(SIGHS)
1657
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,010
Fuck that.
1658
01:31:49,090 --> 01:31:52,890
You make it
sound criminal, man.
It's war. it's a job.
1659
01:31:52,970 --> 01:31:56,590
Oh, I don't know, man.
You saying jobs
can't be criminal?
1660
01:31:57,220 --> 01:31:58,760
Not if you're working
for the government.
1661
01:31:59,550 --> 01:32:02,260
SNOWDEN: You ever hear about
the Nuremberg trials, Trev?
1662
01:32:03,220 --> 01:32:04,840
They weren't that long ago.
1663
01:32:04,930 --> 01:32:08,010
Yeah. And we hung
the Nazi big shots, right?
1664
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,010
Yeah, well, the big shots
were the first trial,
1665
01:32:11,090 --> 01:32:15,010
but then the next trial
were just the judges,
1666
01:32:15,090 --> 01:32:18,050
and lawyers,
and policemen, and guards,
1667
01:32:18,140 --> 01:32:22,760
and ordinary people
just doing their jobs,
following orders.
1668
01:32:24,090 --> 01:32:26,050
That's where we got
the Nuremberg principles,
1669
01:32:26,140 --> 01:32:30,260
which then the UN made
into international law,
1670
01:32:30,340 --> 01:32:34,800
just in case ordinary jobs
become criminal again.
1671
01:32:38,090 --> 01:32:39,390
Just sayin'.
1672
01:32:39,470 --> 01:32:40,890
(DRONE WHIRRING)
1673
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:47,760
(THUD)
(WOMAN SCREAMS)
1674
01:32:48,090 --> 01:32:49,590
(CLAMORING)
1675
01:32:51,220 --> 01:32:52,510
MAN: That's gotta
wake you up. You okay?
1676
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,050
See, I told you
not to grab my hand.
1677
01:32:54,260 --> 01:32:55,970
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
1678
01:33:06,850 --> 01:33:08,300
...fucking touch me
anymore.
1679
01:33:25,010 --> 01:33:27,090
MAN: Dude! Dude,
are you okay?
WOMAN: Oh, my God.
1680
01:33:27,180 --> 01:33:28,590
LINDSAY:
Ed, are you okay?
1681
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,470
Are you okay, man?
I think he's having a...
1682
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,260
LINDSAY: Get away,
don't touch him.
1683
01:33:32,340 --> 01:33:34,010
MAN: Don't touch him,
don't touch him.
LINDSAY: Don't...
1684
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:57,930
(SIGHS)
1685
01:34:02,850 --> 01:34:06,930
Hey, Ed. How are you?How's your health?
1686
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:09,470
Hey, Corbin. Uh...
1687
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,300
it's fine.
Thanks for asking.
1688
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:17,260
Must be nerve-wrackingliving with that condition.
1689
01:34:18,430 --> 01:34:21,590
You wouldn't know itto look at your numbers.
1690
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,760
Two hundred Chinese lPs downin your first four months.
1691
01:34:27,050 --> 01:34:29,890
Those are, uh,
internal numbers.
1692
01:34:29,970 --> 01:34:33,590
Your colleague, Trevor,comes out of the CIA like you.
1693
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,470
He's been, uh, keeping meinformed on your progress.
1694
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:43,090
(CHUCKLES)
it's outstanding work.Heartbeat as well.
1695
01:34:43,970 --> 01:34:46,890
Thank you. Thanks.
That means a lot.
1696
01:34:46,970 --> 01:34:50,090
Lowell is very pleased.He, uh, sends his regards.
1697
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:51,970
That's great to hear.
1698
01:34:53,010 --> 01:34:54,260
He, um...
1699
01:34:58,140 --> 01:35:01,010
He doesn't know aboutyour heat map conversations,
1700
01:35:01,090 --> 01:35:04,260
or some of the ideas you'veexpressed to your colleagues.
1701
01:35:05,090 --> 01:35:06,430
And he's not going to.
1702
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:08,930
Yeah. Uh...
1703
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,760
You know, Heartbeat
is proving a tricky project.
1704
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,800
Collating from
multiple agencies,
1705
01:35:15,890 --> 01:35:18,390
and knowing
where to pull from.
1706
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:21,640
It has helped to talk
it over with colleagues.
1707
01:35:23,180 --> 01:35:24,510
I believe in you, Ed.
1708
01:35:24,930 --> 01:35:29,430
Which is whynothing happened to youafter the derog in Geneva.
1709
01:35:30,430 --> 01:35:33,090
And I'm very grateful
you've looked out for me.
1710
01:35:33,180 --> 01:35:34,260
Or after you, uh,
1711
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:39,340
omitted the truthin your last polygraph.
1712
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,300
What was it you werewithholding exactly?
1713
01:35:45,140 --> 01:35:46,180
Hmm?
1714
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:52,680
You remember
that day in class,
1715
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,550
you were talking to us
about the FISA Court?
1716
01:35:56,930 --> 01:36:00,590
You said that
they approved Bush's
wiretapping programs.
1717
01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:05,430
Sometimes we're restrictedfrom telling the whole truth.
1718
01:36:07,300 --> 01:36:09,510
Doesn't give uspermission to lie.
1719
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,680
Come on, Corbin,
1720
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,800
the Director of
National lntelligence
just lied to Congress!
1721
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:19,430
Sorry.
1722
01:36:24,430 --> 01:36:25,930
Look at me.
1723
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:35,510
Did you accessan unauthorized program
1724
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,090
that I did not know about?
1725
01:36:44,010 --> 01:36:45,390
Yes.
1726
01:36:46,890 --> 01:36:48,220
It was, uh...
1727
01:36:49,220 --> 01:36:51,010
it was at Geneva.
It was Lindsay.
1728
01:36:51,090 --> 01:36:52,340
I was jealous.
1729
01:36:53,890 --> 01:36:56,430
And I'm sorry.
I never did it again.
1730
01:37:10,430 --> 01:37:11,430
Listen, Ed.
1731
01:37:15,260 --> 01:37:18,840
I know it's been up and downwith you and Lindsaysince Geneva.
1732
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,840
It's tough to keepany relationship going.Few of us do.
1733
01:37:26,090 --> 01:37:29,300
So, if it'll give youany peace of mind,I can assure you,
1734
01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:34,050
she's not sleeping withthat photographer friendof hers.
1735
01:37:34,430 --> 01:37:36,220
If that's whatyou're thinking.
1736
01:37:40,090 --> 01:37:41,840
I have to go toa Five Eyes conference
1737
01:37:41,930 --> 01:37:43,640
in Sydney ina couple of weeks.
1738
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,930
I'll stop off in Hawaiion the way back.
1739
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:48,890
Okay?
1740
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,340
Okay. Thank you.
1741
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,090
I'll see you soon.
1742
01:38:11,010 --> 01:38:12,010
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
1743
01:38:13,220 --> 01:38:14,510
Hey, Dad.
1744
01:38:16,340 --> 01:38:19,180
Good. Did you get
the e-mail that I sent you
with the photos?
1745
01:38:20,890 --> 01:38:21,890
Uh-huh.
1746
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:25,430
Well, I was hoping that
you could send me some...
1747
01:38:28,090 --> 01:38:29,510
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1748
01:38:35,050 --> 01:38:36,090
What are you doing?
1749
01:38:58,300 --> 01:38:59,300
Sit down.
1750
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,430
Your e-mail is
being monitored.
1751
01:39:10,220 --> 01:39:11,260
So?
1752
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:13,010
No, it's different now.
1753
01:39:13,090 --> 01:39:15,590
It's not passive collection,
it's full-take surveillance.
1754
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,510
It's all of your e-mails,
calls, texts, social media,
everything.
1755
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:24,050
It's also possible
that the house is bugged.
1756
01:39:24,260 --> 01:39:25,470
I'm not sure.
1757
01:39:26,180 --> 01:39:27,300
By who?
1758
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:31,430
By a senior officer
at the CIA.
1759
01:39:32,430 --> 01:39:35,050
You in trouble?
Is it the Chinese thing?
1760
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,470
Look, there's things
that I wish I could tell you,
1761
01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:44,430
but I can't because
you could get very hurt.
1762
01:39:45,010 --> 01:39:47,800
What's keeping you safe
is that you don't know
anything.
1763
01:39:54,590 --> 01:39:57,970
I'm sorry, I really am.
I didn't want
any of this for you.
1764
01:39:59,930 --> 01:40:04,430
But I know you would think
I was doing the right thing.
1765
01:40:09,090 --> 01:40:12,300
So just listen to me
for a sec, okay?
1766
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:15,470
When we go back in the house,
everything has to appear
normal.
1767
01:40:15,550 --> 01:40:17,680
We're gonna act like
nothing has changed,
1768
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,180
but if you do notice
something that's weird,
1769
01:40:20,260 --> 01:40:22,090
you need to
tell me right away.
1770
01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:25,590
And you're gonna use
an encrypted e-mail
that I'm setting up for you.
1771
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,010
(EXHALES SHARPLY) Oh, my God,
I don't think I can do this.
1772
01:40:28,090 --> 01:40:29,680
Yes, you can.
I know you can.
1773
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:33,140
Do I even have a choice?
1774
01:40:34,180 --> 01:40:35,840
I'm asking you
to trust me.
1775
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,140
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
1776
01:40:44,430 --> 01:40:45,630
And, Linds,
I think it'd be best
1777
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,300
if you went back
to Maryland for a while.
1778
01:40:49,090 --> 01:40:52,720
Tell your parents
that I'm away on
a business trip
1779
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,220
and that you're homesick.
1780
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:57,050
Are you going away?
1781
01:40:57,180 --> 01:40:59,680
Yes. But just
for a little while.
1782
01:41:07,090 --> 01:41:08,180
No.
1783
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:10,430
No, I can't go.
1784
01:41:10,510 --> 01:41:11,930
Please.
Just until I get back.
1785
01:41:12,010 --> 01:41:13,140
I can't go.
1786
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:19,890
You just said
that we have to appear
like nothing's changed.
1787
01:41:20,090 --> 01:41:23,550
If both of us left
at the same time,
wouldn't that seem suspicious?
1788
01:41:27,930 --> 01:41:29,140
(SNIFFLES)
1789
01:41:34,090 --> 01:41:35,550
I will do this for you.
1790
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,550
(SOBBING)
But it is the last time.
1791
01:41:51,090 --> 01:41:52,800
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1792
01:42:08,890 --> 01:42:10,550
(SIREN WAILING IN DISTANCE)
1793
01:42:14,930 --> 01:42:16,430
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
1794
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:20,010
Yo! Yo, you hear
about Trevor, bro?
1795
01:42:20,090 --> 01:42:21,180
No, what?
1796
01:42:21,260 --> 01:42:23,680
You remember that op
to own the lnternet in Syria?
1797
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:24,930
Yeah.
Yeah.
1798
01:42:25,010 --> 01:42:27,510
Trevor and his TAO team
crashed the core router.
1799
01:42:29,180 --> 01:42:30,680
Bro, the whole
country's gone dark.
1800
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,510
SNOWDEN: Jesus Christ.
1801
01:42:32,590 --> 01:42:33,630
TREVOR: Figure it out!
1802
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:34,760
GABRIEL: Poor bastards.
1803
01:42:37,140 --> 01:42:38,930
Okay, I'm gonna, uh...
l gotta get to work.
1804
01:42:39,010 --> 01:42:40,050
Yeah. Yeah, me too.
1805
01:42:41,090 --> 01:42:42,760
So, Ed, how's, uh...
1806
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:45,010
How's Heartbeat coming?
1807
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:46,890
It's close.
1808
01:42:48,590 --> 01:42:49,760
It's very close.
1809
01:42:50,220 --> 01:42:51,590
TREVOR: Pull it up
on this monitor.
1810
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:52,800
MAN: I'm still
trying to access...
1811
01:42:52,890 --> 01:42:54,260
Don't tell me you're
involved in this, too?
1812
01:42:54,340 --> 01:42:58,140
Well, Trevor fucking roped me
into going through
their zero-day exploit codes.
1813
01:42:58,220 --> 01:43:00,470
This thing is
a fucking mess, man.
1814
01:43:03,220 --> 01:43:05,260
Why did I agree
to this?
Good luck.
1815
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:07,720
PATRICK: This is Patrick...
1816
01:43:08,510 --> 01:43:10,180
What you're gonna
do is you're gonna...
1817
01:43:15,470 --> 01:43:18,380
I told him, l...
Help them.
1818
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:19,800
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1819
01:43:28,340 --> 01:43:29,430
(COMPUTER CHIMES)
1820
01:44:31,930 --> 01:44:33,300
(lNDISTINCT CONVERSATION)
1821
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,180
TREVOR: Okay.
Get back to work, guys.
1822
01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:47,260
No, Patrick, show me.
1823
01:45:32,220 --> 01:45:33,590
TREVOR: Talk about
getting hung out to dry.
1824
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:35,380
PATRICK: Yeah. Are we set?
1825
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:36,760
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1826
01:45:37,050 --> 01:45:38,430
Trouble with the Navy?
1827
01:45:38,930 --> 01:45:41,180
TREVOR: One of those idiots
ripped some bullshit piece
of lsraeli code
1828
01:45:41,260 --> 01:45:43,380
and jammed it down
our payload. Can you
fucking believe that?
1829
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:44,760
Script kiddies.
1830
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:46,220
TREVOR: I know, I know.
I should have
listened to you.
1831
01:45:46,300 --> 01:45:47,680
God damn it.
Is this it?
1832
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,010
PATRICK: Here.
Yeah, this is it.
1833
01:45:49,090 --> 01:45:51,680
TREVOR: I'm gonna make
the goddamn lsraelis
take the fall for this.
1834
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:53,630
Come on.
1835
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,550
Got it?
I'm not taking
the fall for this.
1836
01:46:08,260 --> 01:46:09,300
Patrick.
1837
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,430
MAN: Still working on it,
Trev. Hold on.
1838
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,760
MAN: Nothing. Still nothing.
1839
01:46:24,220 --> 01:46:25,260
(CHUCKLES)
1840
01:46:27,340 --> 01:46:28,340
Yeah, but...
1841
01:47:12,340 --> 01:47:14,300
You, uh... You headed
home already?
1842
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:17,630
Yeah. I'm not
feeling so well.
1843
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,720
Might not be in
tomorrow either.
1844
01:47:20,510 --> 01:47:22,010
You know,
Trevor's kind of busy,
1845
01:47:22,090 --> 01:47:23,510
maybe you could
let him know for me?
1846
01:47:23,590 --> 01:47:25,680
Yeah. Yeah, man.
lt'd be my pleasure.
1847
01:47:27,390 --> 01:47:28,800
You know,
if you're, uh...
1848
01:47:28,890 --> 01:47:31,300
if you're really not
feeling well, dude,
maybe you should, uh,
1849
01:47:31,930 --> 01:47:33,630
go back to the States
and see your doctor.
1850
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,890
I think that, you know,
folks would understand that.
1851
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,380
That sounds like
a smart thing.
1852
01:47:41,470 --> 01:47:42,470
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
1853
01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:49,930
Take care of yourself.
1854
01:47:50,590 --> 01:47:51,840
Yeah, you too, bro.
1855
01:48:04,090 --> 01:48:05,590
(CUBE CLICKING)
1856
01:48:09,010 --> 01:48:10,430
(lNDISTINCT CONVERSATION)
1857
01:48:12,970 --> 01:48:14,010
Hey.
Hey.
1858
01:48:15,340 --> 01:48:16,970
You ever play
with one of these?
1859
01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:19,680
Yeah, when I was a kid.
1860
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,090
Yeah. You should try it.
It's hard.
1861
01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:28,510
(SCANNER BEEPS)
1862
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:44,930
I can't figure this out.
1863
01:48:47,470 --> 01:48:48,590
(SCANNER BEEPS)
1864
01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:52,970
I don't know
about this.
1865
01:48:53,180 --> 01:48:55,050
Yeah, you gotta start
with the white cross,
actually,
1866
01:48:55,180 --> 01:48:56,680
and then you do
the corners.
Ah.
1867
01:48:57,220 --> 01:48:58,220
Oh, man.
1868
01:48:58,300 --> 01:49:01,340
Look, I love these things.
(CHUCKLES)
1869
01:49:01,430 --> 01:49:02,760
Hey, have
a good weekend, man.
1870
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,300
You too, buddy.
All right.
1871
01:50:00,010 --> 01:50:01,220
LAURA: it's live.
1872
01:50:06,260 --> 01:50:08,340
There's a link to
the FISA court order.
1873
01:50:14,430 --> 01:50:15,430
(CHUCKLES)
1874
01:50:15,930 --> 01:50:18,220
Well done, Janine.
1875
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:19,840
I told you
she wasn't a pushover.
1876
01:50:19,930 --> 01:50:22,090
Well, it feels so
goddamn good to be wrong.
1877
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,010
Breaking news tonight.Reports that througha secret court order,
1878
01:50:33,090 --> 01:50:35,630
the Obama administrationis collectingthe phone records
1879
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:37,430
of millions ofVerizon customers.
1880
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:39,680
That's been reported by theGuardian newspaper in the U.K.
1881
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,050
The specific court order shows
1882
01:50:41,140 --> 01:50:44,260
that all the informationis going to the NationalSecurity Agency.
1883
01:50:44,340 --> 01:50:45,680
(GLEEFUL EXCLAMATION)
1884
01:50:46,340 --> 01:50:48,380
How's that for
mainstream media,
Glenn?
1885
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:51,180
They can't shut this down now.
And we've got
four more days of it.
1886
01:50:51,260 --> 01:50:53,340
They have no idea what
they're in store for.
1887
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:54,510
(CHUCKLES)
That's fantastic!
1888
01:50:54,590 --> 01:50:57,380
MORGAN: ...former Speaker
of the House is on the grilltonight and joins me now.
1889
01:50:57,470 --> 01:50:59,840
BLITZER: Another explosive
article has just appeared,
1890
01:50:59,930 --> 01:51:01,340
this time in
The Washington Post.
1891
01:51:01,430 --> 01:51:03,510
It's breaking newsthat it reveals
1892
01:51:03,590 --> 01:51:06,970
another broad and secretU.S. governmentsurveillance program.
1893
01:51:07,050 --> 01:51:10,680
The Washington Post
and the Guardian
in London reporting
1894
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,260
that the NSA and the FBI
1895
01:51:12,340 --> 01:51:15,470
are tapping directlyinto the central servers
1896
01:51:15,550 --> 01:51:17,840
of nine leadinglnternet companies,
1897
01:51:17,930 --> 01:51:20,510
including Microsoft,Yahoo, Google, Facebook,
1898
01:51:20,590 --> 01:51:23,510
AOL, Skype, YouTube,and Apple.
1899
01:51:23,590 --> 01:51:25,840
The Post says
they're extracting audio,
1900
01:51:25,930 --> 01:51:28,760
video, photographs,e-mails, documents,
1901
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,050
and connection logs
1902
01:51:30,140 --> 01:51:32,430
that enable analyststo track a person'smovements
1903
01:51:32,510 --> 01:51:34,760
and contacts over time.
1904
01:51:38,090 --> 01:51:41,630
OBAMA: In the abstract,you can complainabout Big Brother
1905
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,840
and how this is a potentialprogram run amok.
1906
01:51:45,930 --> 01:51:48,090
But when you actuallylook at the details,
1907
01:51:48,180 --> 01:51:50,260
then I think we've struckthe right balance.
1908
01:51:50,340 --> 01:51:53,510
FEMALE REPORTER:
U.S. President Barack Obamastaunchly defends
1909
01:51:53,590 --> 01:51:55,760
U.S. government programs,
1910
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,220
insisting thatthey were conductedwith broad safeguards
1911
01:51:59,300 --> 01:52:01,550
and to protect against abuse.
1912
01:52:03,430 --> 01:52:05,680
GLENN: He reached
the conclusion thatwhat was happening
1913
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,180
inside this reallysecretive agency
1914
01:52:08,260 --> 01:52:10,510
uh, was verythreatening and menacing
1915
01:52:10,590 --> 01:52:13,010
to privacy rights,to lnternet freedom,
1916
01:52:13,090 --> 01:52:15,880
to basic political liberty,not only in the United States,
1917
01:52:15,970 --> 01:52:18,010
but all around the world.
1918
01:52:18,090 --> 01:52:21,800
And he felt it washis duty as a human beingto disclose it.
1919
01:52:32,590 --> 01:52:35,800
Uh, my name's Ed Snowden.
I'm 29 years old.
1920
01:52:35,890 --> 01:52:37,340
I work for
Booz Allen Hamilton
1921
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:40,930
as an infrastructure analyst
for NSA in Hawaii.
1922
01:52:42,260 --> 01:52:43,590
(SPEAKING MANDARIN)
1923
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,590
(SPEAKING GERMAN)
1924
01:52:45,890 --> 01:52:47,430
(SPEAKING lTALIAN)
1925
01:52:47,550 --> 01:52:49,130
(SPEAKING JAPANESE)
1926
01:52:49,390 --> 01:52:51,010
(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)
1927
01:52:51,470 --> 01:52:53,720
The identity of the manwho sent the Obama...
1928
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:58,010
You can't come forwardagainst the most powerfulintelligence agencies
1929
01:52:58,090 --> 01:53:00,680
in the world without expectingto have some risk.
1930
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:02,840
They're just suchpowerful adversaries.
1931
01:53:02,930 --> 01:53:05,840
So no one canmeaningfully oppose them.
1932
01:53:05,930 --> 01:53:07,010
He did it.
1933
01:53:07,090 --> 01:53:09,930
You know,if they want to get you,they will get you, in time.
1934
01:53:10,010 --> 01:53:11,010
The kid did it!
1935
01:53:11,090 --> 01:53:12,970
SNOWDEN: And it's just
gonna get worse forthe next generation,
1936
01:53:13,050 --> 01:53:14,430
as they extendthe capabilities
1937
01:53:14,510 --> 01:53:18,010
of this sort ofarchitecture of oppression.
1938
01:53:18,090 --> 01:53:22,430
And you realize thatyou might be willingto accept any risk,
1939
01:53:22,510 --> 01:53:26,260
as long as the publicis able to maketheir own decision
1940
01:53:26,340 --> 01:53:27,970
about howthis is applied.
1941
01:53:28,220 --> 01:53:30,930
Because even ifyou haven't doneanything wrong,
1942
01:53:31,010 --> 01:53:32,970
you're beingwatched and recorded.
1943
01:53:33,050 --> 01:53:34,180
(TELEPHONE RINGING)
1944
01:53:34,260 --> 01:53:37,430
Look, I had accessto the entireintelligence community.
1945
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:40,760
So, if I had wantedto harm the U.S.,
1946
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,050
you could shut downthe entire surveillancesystem in an afternoon.
1947
01:53:45,140 --> 01:53:48,430
But that was nevermy intention.
1948
01:53:48,510 --> 01:53:51,590
And I think anybodythat's making that argument,
1949
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:56,010
they have to think,if they were in my position,
1950
01:53:56,090 --> 01:53:59,840
living in Hawaii, in paradise,and making a ton of money,
1951
01:53:59,930 --> 01:54:04,800
what would it take to makeyou leave everything behind?
1952
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:10,510
The fear thatI think I have mostin regards to the outcome
1953
01:54:10,590 --> 01:54:13,340
for America ofthese disclosures
1954
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:15,630
is that nothingwill change.
1955
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,510
In the coming monthsand the coming years,it'll just get worse.
1956
01:54:19,590 --> 01:54:22,130
And then eventually,at some point,
1957
01:54:22,220 --> 01:54:26,300
some new leaderwill be elected
1958
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:30,260
who flips the switch,
1959
01:54:30,340 --> 01:54:37,180
and the people won'tbe able to do anything,by that point, to oppose it.
1960
01:54:38,050 --> 01:54:40,220
And it'll beturnkey tyranny.
1961
01:54:42,180 --> 01:54:43,340
GLENN: How you holding up?
1962
01:54:44,260 --> 01:54:46,380
Yeah, I'll be fine.
1963
01:54:47,260 --> 01:54:48,760
It's you guys
that have to start
watching out
1964
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,300
for yourselves now.
1965
01:54:51,470 --> 01:54:54,010
You know, if you have
any reason to believe
1966
01:54:54,090 --> 01:54:58,680
that you're about to be
raided or intercepted
or breached in any way,
1967
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:03,300
you format and destroy
all the data immediately.
1968
01:55:03,390 --> 01:55:06,340
You have
the encrypted backups.
1969
01:55:07,220 --> 01:55:08,550
And now, l...
1970
01:55:11,550 --> 01:55:14,470
I no longer have any access
to these files myself.
1971
01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:16,180
You guys have them all.
1972
01:55:18,220 --> 01:55:19,300
Uh...
1973
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,550
Keep the focus on the stories,
that's all that matters.
1974
01:55:24,590 --> 01:55:26,260
If you'll excuse me, it's...
1975
01:55:29,010 --> 01:55:31,180
I think we should
all get some rest.
We can use it.
1976
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:34,510
Yeah. I should probably
lay down on a soft bed
1977
01:55:34,590 --> 01:55:36,630
while I still have
one available, right?
1978
01:55:38,260 --> 01:55:40,130
You rest well.
Thank you.
1979
01:55:42,340 --> 01:55:43,800
See you tomorrow.
Good night.
1980
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:48,760
(DOOR OPENS)
1981
01:55:50,050 --> 01:55:51,050
(DOOR CLOSES)
1982
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,300
(WAVES CRASHING)
1983
01:56:14,180 --> 01:56:16,380
Can you at least tell me
where you're going?
1984
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,590
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
1985
01:56:30,140 --> 01:56:31,430
(CHUCKLES)
1986
01:56:41,260 --> 01:56:42,800
SNOWDEN: Listen,
I know that I'm...
1987
01:56:56,590 --> 01:56:57,800
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
1988
01:56:58,470 --> 01:57:00,090
(lNDISTINCT CHATTER)
1989
01:57:01,140 --> 01:57:02,760
Ewen, I'm on
the second floor.
1990
01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:05,590
I don't see Tibbo.
1991
01:57:07,930 --> 01:57:10,220
No. No, no, wait.
Okay. I think I see him.
1992
01:57:11,090 --> 01:57:12,220
Shit!
1993
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,260
There's press swarming
all over the hotel.
1994
01:57:15,340 --> 01:57:17,010
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll figure it out.
1995
01:57:17,090 --> 01:57:19,130
I'll stop them with
a press conference
or something.
1996
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:23,180
Hey, I'm Glenn.
Look, we really
appreciate this.
1997
01:57:23,260 --> 01:57:25,300
We understand you're
one of the best lawyers
in Hong Kong.
1998
01:57:25,390 --> 01:57:26,430
TIBBO: We'll do our best.
1999
01:57:26,510 --> 01:57:29,470
We're gonna take him
to the UN first, then
I prefer not to reveal.
2000
01:57:29,550 --> 01:57:30,510
GLENN:
I understand.
2001
01:57:30,590 --> 01:57:32,880
Shit. They spotted me.
You guys get going.
2002
01:57:33,930 --> 01:57:35,800
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
2003
01:57:36,590 --> 01:57:38,180
Okay, I will take
your questions in
an orderly fashion.
2004
01:57:38,260 --> 01:57:39,340
Where is Snowden?
Do you know where he is?
2005
01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:40,430
FEMALE REPORTER: Come on,
please let us know!
2006
01:57:41,090 --> 01:57:42,180
Did you get them?
2007
01:57:42,260 --> 01:57:43,880
Yeah, this is the best
I could do.
2008
01:57:43,970 --> 01:57:46,550
You're meeting Tibbo
in five minutes,
2009
01:57:46,630 --> 01:57:49,130
on the skybridge
opposite the large mall.
2010
01:57:52,890 --> 01:57:57,130
I've met a lot of
astonishing people
in my life, but you...
2011
01:57:57,220 --> 01:57:58,470
(BOTH CHUCKLE)
2012
01:57:59,340 --> 01:58:01,590
Okay, laddie.
Off you go.
2013
01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:04,050
I won't let you down.
2014
01:58:06,220 --> 01:58:08,720
You'd make a shitty journalist
without a camera.
2015
01:58:09,590 --> 01:58:11,340
Are you sure?
Yeah.
2016
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:14,720
Okay. That's a great idea.
2017
01:58:16,590 --> 01:58:17,590
Thanks.
2018
01:58:19,970 --> 01:58:22,050
Oh! You don't want to
leave your luck behind.
2019
01:58:22,630 --> 01:58:23,630
SNOWDEN: Oh.
2020
01:58:23,890 --> 01:58:25,760
I think I'd like you
to have that.
2021
01:58:27,930 --> 01:58:30,180
Thanks for everything.
2022
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:31,930
Thank you.
2023
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:52,050
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
2024
01:58:55,590 --> 01:58:56,930
(WHISPERS) I have
a van on the street.
2025
01:59:02,090 --> 01:59:05,260
FEMALE REPORTER:
NSA leaker Edward Snowdenhas now been charged formally
2026
01:59:05,340 --> 01:59:10,090
with espionage, theft,and conversion ofgovernment property.
2027
01:59:10,220 --> 01:59:11,970
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
U.S. officialshave asked Hong Kong
2028
01:59:12,050 --> 01:59:13,590
to detainthe former contractor
2029
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:15,510
on a provisionalarrest warrant.
2030
01:59:15,590 --> 01:59:17,680
Snowden has beenin Hong Kong since May...
2031
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:20,970
MALE REPORTER 1:
...remember, that was backreportedly on May 20th.
2032
01:59:21,590 --> 01:59:24,180
MALE REPORTER 1:... Snowden
has checked out of the luxuryhotel in Hong Kong,
2033
01:59:24,260 --> 01:59:25,470
where he had been holed up.
2034
01:59:28,630 --> 01:59:29,680
TIBBO: You might
turn your eyes away.
2035
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:31,180
FEMALE REPORTER:
...not likely takeaction against him
2036
01:59:31,260 --> 01:59:32,260
without an arrestwarrant from the U.S.
2037
01:59:32,340 --> 01:59:35,010
MALE REPORTER 2: The Justice
Department had to goto lnterpol so that Snowden,
2038
01:59:35,090 --> 01:59:37,260
if he tried to crossa border, he could beintercepted and detained.
2039
01:59:37,340 --> 01:59:38,760
MALE REPORTER 3:
Snowden is still in hiding.
2040
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:39,840
So again...
2041
01:59:39,930 --> 01:59:41,590
MALE REPORTER 4: But the
Americans are now closing in.
2042
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,840
They almost certainly knowwhere he is,
2043
01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:46,550
they just needHong Kong's approvalto get him.
2044
01:59:46,630 --> 01:59:48,340
FEMALE REPORTER 1:
The Hong Kong governmentdoes have
2045
01:59:48,430 --> 01:59:50,470
an extradition agreementwith Washington.
2046
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:51,680
But the ultimate decision...
2047
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:55,180
FEMALE REPORTER 2:
So the big question here is,where is he now?
2048
01:59:55,260 --> 01:59:56,430
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)
2049
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,970
Thank you.
This is Ed. Ed, Mayana.
2050
02:00:01,050 --> 02:00:02,720
Hi, Ed. Welcome.
Thank you.
2051
02:00:03,140 --> 02:00:04,680
(GREETING IN TAMIL)
SNOWDEN: Thank you.
2052
02:00:05,590 --> 02:00:07,510
TIBBO: These are good people.
They won't talk.
2053
02:00:08,180 --> 02:00:10,970
I've been handling
their cases for years.
They're like you.
2054
02:00:11,050 --> 02:00:12,220
That's so nice.
2055
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:14,430
They're stateless.
Yeah.
2056
02:00:14,930 --> 02:00:18,340
TIBBO: So we're waiting
on the UN application
for refugee status.
2057
02:00:18,430 --> 02:00:19,550
Yeah.
2058
02:00:19,630 --> 02:00:22,470
Just in case you're arrested,
this is where you can call me.
2059
02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:23,590
Yeah.
2060
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:26,880
Good.
2061
02:00:27,590 --> 02:00:28,880
Thank you so much.
2062
02:00:33,090 --> 02:00:37,760
You may not feel it,
Ed, but you're not alone.
2063
02:00:38,630 --> 02:00:39,720
Thank you.
2064
02:00:42,300 --> 02:00:44,380
FEMALE REPORTER:
...his longtime girlfriend,Lindsay Mills,
2065
02:00:44,470 --> 02:00:45,680
an amateur photographer,
2066
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:47,180
has not been heard from.
2067
02:00:47,260 --> 02:00:49,180
It's believedshe's in seclusion
2068
02:00:49,260 --> 02:00:50,760
in her parents' homein Maryland,
2069
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:52,680
and has been questionedby the FBI
2070
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:54,680
and remainsunder investigation.
2071
02:00:56,590 --> 02:01:00,340
MALE REPORTER: Ten days
have now gone by, as the worldlooks for Edward Snowden.
2072
02:01:00,430 --> 02:01:03,840
Rumors have surfacedthat a rich supporteris hiding Snowden
2073
02:01:03,930 --> 02:01:07,260
somewhere inthe Hong Kong hillsin a private mansion.
2074
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,010
(WOMAN SPEAKING
lNDISTINCTLY ON PA)
2075
02:01:39,260 --> 02:01:41,630
MALE REPORTER 1: it is now
confirmed that Edward Snowden
2076
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,010
has boarded a flightfrom Hong Kong to Moscow.
2077
02:01:44,090 --> 02:01:45,970
FEMALE REPORTER 1:
The State Departmentis very disappointed
2078
02:01:46,050 --> 02:01:47,680
in the authoritiesin Hong Kong
2079
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,380
for letting Snowden go.
2080
02:01:49,470 --> 02:01:52,010
MALE REPORTER 2: He was
accompanied by arepresentative from WikiLeaks.
2081
02:01:52,090 --> 02:01:55,260
MALE REPORTER 3: Snowden is
trying to make his wayfrom Russia to Cuba,
2082
02:01:55,340 --> 02:01:57,550
and then to Ecuadorfor political asylum.
2083
02:01:57,630 --> 02:01:59,840
FEMALE REPORTER 2: Moscow
airport officials sayhe won't be permitted
2084
02:01:59,930 --> 02:02:01,340
to make his connective flight
2085
02:02:01,430 --> 02:02:03,840
because the U.S. governmenthas revoked his passport.
2086
02:02:03,930 --> 02:02:06,630
MALE REPORTER 4: The
United States Secretaryof State, John Kerry,
2087
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:10,590
outraged that Russiais refusing to arrestthe American fugitive.
2088
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:14,840
MALE REPORTER 5: Now a man
without a country strandedinside the Moscow airport.
2089
02:02:14,930 --> 02:02:17,590
No, I'm not gonna
be scrambling jets, uh,
2090
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:22,260
to get a 29-year-old hacker.
2091
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,300
FEMALE REPORTER 3: The
President of Bolivia's plane
2092
02:02:25,380 --> 02:02:27,680
was forced down inAustria airspace today
2093
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:32,010
following U.S. suspicionsthat Snowden mayhave been on board.
2094
02:02:32,090 --> 02:02:34,470
MALE REPORTER 6: After
39 days in the airport hotel,
2095
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:36,970
he's left withhis Russian lawyerand a legal advisor
2096
02:02:37,050 --> 02:02:39,180
from WikiLeaks,Sarah Harrison.
2097
02:02:40,050 --> 02:02:42,840
MALE REPORTER 7: He can now
enjoy all of the sweet,sweet liberty
2098
02:02:42,930 --> 02:02:46,090
allowed under the regimeof President Vladimir Putin.
2099
02:02:46,180 --> 02:02:49,340
TRUMP: There is stilla thing called execution.
2100
02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:50,760
Mr. Snowdenactually deserves asylum
2101
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:52,130
and protectionaround the globe.
2102
02:02:52,220 --> 02:02:55,340
But he does have asylumin Russia at least.
2103
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:57,430
He can engage inthe debate he started.
2104
02:02:58,050 --> 02:02:59,340
And the worldnow has an example
2105
02:02:59,430 --> 02:03:00,680
that you can dothe right thing,
2106
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:04,510
and you don't haveto end up in a cage,one room, a prison.
2107
02:03:06,590 --> 02:03:09,760
MALE REPORTER: After more
than a year in the countryunder temporary asylum,
2108
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:14,260
Edward Snowden has receiveda three-year residency permitin Russia.
2109
02:03:22,590 --> 02:03:25,630
MALE MODERATOR: And now,
here live from Moscow,
2110
02:03:25,930 --> 02:03:27,510
Edward Snowden.
(APPLAUSE)
2111
02:03:28,890 --> 02:03:30,760
Hi, Ed. How you doing?
2112
02:03:36,130 --> 02:03:37,590
SNOWDEN: (ON SPEAKERS)
Thank you.
2113
02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:40,590
Uh, forgive me ifI get my bearingsa little bit here.
2114
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:43,130
People always saidI was kind of a robot.
2115
02:03:43,220 --> 02:03:44,380
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
2116
02:03:44,630 --> 02:03:47,130
MODERATOR: How is it that
you came to be in Russia?
2117
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:49,510
Well, I never intended
to come here.
2118
02:03:49,590 --> 02:03:53,510
You know,
my passport was revoked
en route to Latin America.
2119
02:03:53,590 --> 02:03:56,220
So when people say,
"Why are you in Russia?"
2120
02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:59,180
I say,
"Ask the State Department."
2121
02:04:00,090 --> 02:04:03,590
Does that mean you're willingto go back and face trial?
2122
02:04:04,300 --> 02:04:08,220
Absolutely, if it wasa fair and public trial.
2123
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,590
Unfortunately, that's not
what would happen right now,
2124
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:15,760
as long as the Espionage Act
is being used against
whistleblowers.
2125
02:04:17,090 --> 02:04:19,050
MODERATOR: Do you still
think it was worth it?
2126
02:04:19,130 --> 02:04:20,180
Yes, I do.
2127
02:04:20,260 --> 02:04:24,180
Without the information
to start a public debate,
2128
02:04:24,260 --> 02:04:25,680
we're lost.
You know...
2129
02:04:26,260 --> 02:04:29,800
The people being ableto question our government
2130
02:04:29,890 --> 02:04:32,510
and hold it accountable,
2131
02:04:32,590 --> 02:04:37,510
that's the principle
that the United States
of America was founded on.
2132
02:04:37,590 --> 02:04:41,340
So if we want to protect
our national security,
2133
02:04:41,430 --> 02:04:43,840
we should be protecting
that principle.
2134
02:04:45,470 --> 02:04:47,760
MODERATOR: What ifyour
argument falls on deaf ears?
2135
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,180
What if our leadersdon't act?
2136
02:04:50,970 --> 02:04:54,180
I believe that,if nothing changes,
2137
02:04:55,180 --> 02:04:59,760
more and more peopleall over the worldwill come forward.
2138
02:05:00,430 --> 02:05:05,430
Whistleblowers
and journalists,
but also regular citizens.
2139
02:05:06,260 --> 02:05:12,090
And when those in power
try to hide by
classifying everything,
2140
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:15,680
we will call them out on it.
2141
02:05:16,220 --> 02:05:21,970
And when they try to scare usinto sacrificing our basichuman rights,
2142
02:05:22,050 --> 02:05:24,340
we won't be intimidated,
2143
02:05:24,430 --> 02:05:29,090
and we won't give up,
and we will not be silenced.
2144
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:32,550
You're alone ina foreign country,
2145
02:05:32,630 --> 02:05:35,880
you'll be extraditedif you try to leave.
2146
02:05:35,970 --> 02:05:37,630
That must be hard.
2147
02:05:50,130 --> 02:05:53,680
When I left Hawaii,
I lost everything.
2148
02:05:57,340 --> 02:05:59,300
And I had a stable life.
2149
02:05:59,630 --> 02:06:01,050
(CHUCKLES)
2150
02:06:02,340 --> 02:06:04,430
A stable love.
2151
02:06:04,510 --> 02:06:06,430
Family. Future.
2152
02:06:08,260 --> 02:06:10,090
And I lost that life,
2153
02:06:13,050 --> 02:06:15,090
but I've gained
a new one,
2154
02:06:17,550 --> 02:06:19,380
and I'm incredibly
fortunate.
2155
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:23,130
And I think
2156
02:06:25,130 --> 02:06:26,590
the greatest freedom
that I've gained
2157
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:30,260
is the fact that
I no longer have to worry
about what happens tomorrow,
2158
02:06:30,340 --> 02:06:32,720
because I'm happy with
what I've done today.
2159
02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:41,180
Live from the lnternet,Edward Snowden!
2160
02:06:41,260 --> 02:06:42,920
(APPLAUSE)
2161
02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:46,380
(CHEERING AND WHISTLING)
2162
02:07:59,090 --> 02:08:00,720
MALE REPORTER:
Has your mindsetchanged about him?
2163
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:04,880
Is he now more whistleblower
than he is a, uh, hacker?
2164
02:08:42,260 --> 02:08:44,220
MALE REPORTER: What is going
to happen to Edward Snowden?
2165
02:08:44,300 --> 02:08:47,010
He's going to die in Moscow.
He's not coming home.
2166
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Edward Snowden,
is he a traitor or a hero?
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HILLARY CLINTON: He stole
very important information.
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MALE REPORTER: We have
breaking news tonight...
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Among the reforms,
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work with Congressto change how the NSAcollects phone records.
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Mandate more transparencyby the secret court
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that regularly approvesthe surveillance.
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MAN: Well, is ita victory for Edward Snowden?
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That's gonna dependon the eye of the beholder.
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LINCOLN CHAFFEE:
The American governmentwas acting illegally.
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HILLARY CLINTON: I don't think
he should be brought homewithout facing the music.
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SANDERS: Snowden played
a very important role
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in educatingthe American people
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to the degree in whichour civil liberties andour constitutional rights
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are being undermined.
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