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Tonight, the conclusion of the Real
Housewives of New York City reunion.
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Follow your gut. True that. It was like
crazy.
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I love it. Better to say I'm sorry than
be a denier.
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I was like on the verge of a nervous
breakdown. Once Tinsley left the show,
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Dorinda made me her punching bag.
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Don't you look at yourself and go, oh,
my God, I can't believe I said that to
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Lou. I don't think Syrinza hits below
the belt. What? I'm sorry. You need to
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think about that. You scammed us.
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She's explaining herself.
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Can I finish? She doesn't want to hear
you respond.
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Read the text. I love you. Why are you
doing this?
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Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New York City reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen.
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Well, as any avid watcher of the New
York Housewives can tell you, it's more
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than just entertainment.
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It's an anthropological experience.
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Watch this.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry.
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Whoa. Sorry. Sorry.
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Sorry goes a long way. I'm sorry. It
does.
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Sorry. I'm sorry. It's an afternoon.
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It's insulting.
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I'm sorry. No, I'm not. I'm not. Sorry.
Don't need you in my life. I'm sorry,
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but sorry goes a long way.
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to catch a dick.
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If I don't catch a dick, I don't care.
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And then you die and you catch some dick
on the way. I mean, the dick's good.
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Never touch a small dick.
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Thank you, Sonia.
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I've never received a dick pic, except
the wrong number.
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My dick would go like that.
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The only reason you would leave a girls
event is to catch a dick.
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All right, let's go.
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Come on, girls.
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Check with Ramona. She needs to be
wrangled. Get your ass over here, girl.
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You want to skedaddle? Let's go
skedaddle. Okay, let's go.
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Yay! Okay, let's go. All right, girls,
let's get started, right? Let's sit.
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Let's all sit down. Okay, sit down,
Dawn. Don't touch my lawnmower.
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Lady, the soup is getting cold.
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Come on, hurry up. The ceviche is
waiting for us. It's going to get warm.
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anybody like a...
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Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
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the thing. Here's the thing about
Sonia's rambling. You know what it is?
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the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the
thing. Here's the thing. Here's the
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thing about Romano. Are you serious? Can
you imagine?
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Can you imagine?
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Can you imagine?
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Can you imagine?
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Again. Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
Wait, I want to smell it. I'm only
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smelling it. What? I'm just interested.
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Oh, God.
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Roseanne Coca -Cola.
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Did you know you did? Who would have
known?
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Jesus. I didn't know that. I didn't know
you were a sniffer. Did you know that?
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What?
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What? Did you know that?
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Did you just smell your armpits? Yes.
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I love it. That's awesome. You were
stunned by your smelling.
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Stunned. I thought, I had no idea that's
what it was going to be.
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That's really funny. It's so weird.
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Has no one ever said?
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But, you know, I'm a very, like, the way
I learn is by, like, touching things
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and feeling them. So smelling them, too,
maybe. I don't know.
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Donnie from Ann Arbor said, Dorinda, you
have almost a European way of speaking.
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Can you imagine, and here's the thing,
things you picked up living in England,
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or is that more your mom's influence?
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I have no idea. I didn't really realize
I say it so much. Here's the thing. I
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didn't really know.
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Celia from Nashville said, Lou, it seems
like you're always trying to keep the
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ladies on track and maintain decorum. Do
you see yourself as the peacekeeper
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mama of the group?
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Absolutely. Yeah, you know, I'm left
with the task of doing some wrangling
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I'm not being the snatch guard. Snatch
guard.
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Kathy from Toluca Lake, California said,
Ladies, do two words coming out of a
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person's mouth mean any less than when
Ramona says, I'm sorry?
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Better to say I'm sorry than to be a
denier.
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Okay.
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Sal from Pittsburgh said, Sonia, what's
with the fascination with catching a
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dick this season?
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Is this a law of attraction thing? Say
it enough and it'll appear?
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No, I believe when you're drinking,
sometimes you project.
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I'm going to say the reason I was like,
I wasn't getting any.
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Since like October.
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Malia from LA said, ladies, once again
this season, the subject of dick pics
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reared its head.
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Sometimes it's easier to just ask for a
dick pic. If it's a micro penis, I'm not
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wasting my time.
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Oh my God.
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Excluding Leah for obvious reasons, who
in the group do you think received the
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most dick pics?
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Ramona.
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You said you got one as a wrong number.
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I was about to show you my dick pic.
It's the only one I ever got in my life
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it was the wrong number. He says to me,
no response.
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I miss you. I miss it too. Nothing is
like it ended over.
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Dorinda tried to backtrack the number to
see who it was, but I liked his decor.
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I liked his apartment. You liked his
decor?
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How was the dick?
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Decor? But we couldn't really size it
up. Oh my God, moving on.
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Well, she's been called the singer
-stinger and the apologizer. But this
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the women wondered, could Ramona be
called a good friend?
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Take a look.
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Hi, Ramona. Hi, Christina. Christina,
lovely to see you. Hi, do you see I'm
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here? I come here all the time. Oh, my
God, my other girlfriend.
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Hi, Ramona. You're not a social light.
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You're social fucking heavy.
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Come over and say hello. Come over.
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Are you here? Are you sort of here? My
friends are crying over me. No, but
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you're here with your friends here. I am
social. I have a problem.
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They don't have as many girlfriends as I
do. So maybe it's a little resentment
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and a little jealous.
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I love Ramona. I love her friends. But I
just think she's treating us friends
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like we're chicken liver.
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You're chopped liver.
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With Sonia, I have to bring myself down.
With my other friends, I have to
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elevate myself.
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What does she expect me to do, hang from
the chandelier? Come on. Yeah, well, I
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was on a diet. I'll see you in the
morning. I'm going to go to my
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party. Ramona, stop!
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Are you kidding me?
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Leave your guests at home and go to a
party. No, you're not. Girl, I want to
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out. The winner of the Word's Post, this
award goes to Ramona Singer.
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At the end of the lunch yesterday, she
calls me crying because she fat shames
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her. When we were at the spa, Ramona
tells me that I need to lose at least 10
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pounds. I mean, really?
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So how many girlfriends do you have
coming in your birthday?
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50. 50?
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You don't talk to 50 women. Come on.
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50 women? I would not be where I am
today.
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But they were there for me when I was
going there. I said that you're sober.
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they're not there for you. That's true.
Well, shut the f*** up about that.
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Lucia Wong -Garden, and Pamela Morgan
were all at my baby shower.
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Then Ramona's like, these are my friends
for a long time. I'm like, yeah,
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through me.
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My girls got me this because, you know,
they love to do that. Oh, here's a
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pocketbook fund. Get the fuck out of
here. We're talking about superficial.
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She literally asked each person to
donate $100 to get a gift. Well, at
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has a real Gucci bag now because the
other one she wears is fake.
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All my Gucci bags are real, by the way.
No, they're not. Definitely not. Philip
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from Kansas City wonders, Sonia,
Dorinda, and Luann, is Ramona in the
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different from Ramona in the city?
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Seems like her sole reason for existing
in the Hamptons is to see and be seen.
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Do you agree?
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Amen! Yes.
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Okay. Yeah, actually, what happened, the
reason why I have...
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A lot of girlfriends.
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Everything is very popular. I wasn't
asking that about the girlfriends. I
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dinner parties for 10, 20. I go to
parties for 10, 20.
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All those girls at my party, I've seen
half of them a dozen times since I've
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been in the Hamptons in small groups of
10. Okay.
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Brian from Chattanooga said, Ramona,
you've always been a double booker, but
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leaving a party at your own home in the
Hamptons was nuts.
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Can you not see how desperately you
suffer from FOMO? Well, no, what
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was, okay, we were all invited to this
party. They were all really enjoying
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themselves and they didn't want to
leave.
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And you know what? I knew they were just
going to like, just like, you know,
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crash out. And I wanted to go for an
hour, one hour.
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You just wanted to go to the party
because you're horny. That's it. Sonia,
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seems that Ramona bringing up her 50
friends was a real trigger for you.
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Absolutely. I've been there for her
through thick and thin. You know what?
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And you feel like a lot of those friends
are your friends. Excuse me. 60 is the
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new 40. How many times have you seen
Pamela Morgan?
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Shut the F -T -F -U.
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Okay?
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When we come back.
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I go, Sonia, maybe you need to lose a
little weight. I was so embarrassed I
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cried. Maybe you should lose a few
pounds.
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for her through thick and thin. And you
feel like a lot of those friends are
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your friends.
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How many times have you seen Pamela
Morgan?
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Shut up. S -T -F -U.
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Okay? I've seen Pamela Morgan 15 times
since I got back. She did my daughter's
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birthday baby shower. That was 20 years
ago. How many times have you seen her in
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two months? I've seen her 15 times. I
see her all the time. Good for you. You
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work a little harder. You haven't even
seen her. I get invited by her. She
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doesn't see anybody.
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She goes down under.
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Well, because I'm a recluse. I don't
have a husband. I am invited. My
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girlfriends are everything. Where are
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I met you at her house. It's you and me.
Not them. They don't care about you.
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They're using you to do the pocketbook
fund.
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We'll all chip in $100. You know what I
said to the $100? This.
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I'm not buying you Chanel's to be your
friend.
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Gareth from Dallas said, ladies, by show
of hands, who doesn't think Ramona
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sounds like an asshole whenever she
talks about having 50, 60, or 70
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Who doesn't think? Yeah, you sound like
an ass. I said that. You know what? I'm
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64 years old. I've cultivated these
girlfriends since I'm 25.
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When you're 30 years later, you'll have
a lot of more girlfriends too, okay?
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These are my girls. I don't think I
will. I love them. I hang out with them
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birthday parties, dinner parties,
Thanksgiving, bar mitzvahs. I see them
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time. I am so blessed.
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That's really deep.
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Dorinda, what's wrong with a 63 -year
-old woman throwing herself a birthday
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party?
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It just seems insincere, that many
women.
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It was for your own party, for your own
birthday. I know, but it was for people
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that were... Such a contradiction. There
was like 10 people there.
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These women, some of them you just met.
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Who did I just meet? Mary.
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Maria? Maria.
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Oh my, are you kidding me? Known her for
a year and a half.
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She's at my house every other day.
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And I feel like an emptiness in you. I
just always wake up happy and I wake up
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in this apartment and I start crying.
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I just think it comes off as a sincere.
Maria and I are very close. You're so
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wrong, Dorinda.
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She's also climbing.
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Danny from West Hollywood said, Leah,
you threw some shade at Ramona saying
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at least after her party, Ramona has a
real Gucci bag. Did you spot her with a
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fake? before, or where did you get your
intel? Yeah, I did.
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You did? I have all real Gucci.
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Not that one. No, not that one. I have
all Gucci. Sorry.
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It had a giant, these two giant Gs that
I could tell were fake.
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The day I understand everyone in our
group will be the day that I have a
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dollars. Yeah.
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No, sweetie, they're all real.
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Chinatown. Someone that has real bags
doesn't act that excited when they get
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just a freaking bag. You acted like
you've never seen a bag before. It was
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weird. OK.
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boringness. You are not boringness.
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You know what? It was a present. I love
presents.
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I got, I jumped up and down. It was like
crazy. Well, I'm excited.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm like a little kid in, I'm sorry, I'm
happy.
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Mick from New York said, Ramona, why
would you ever call one of your close
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friends heavy like you did to Sonia? I
know you have a bit of the diarrhea of
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the mouth, but that was rude and
uncalled for. Because you know what?
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I have these voluptuous bodies and I can
go up and down by 10 pounds. You're
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looking up right now, but that's all
right. And my girl would say, oh,
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you're getting a little porky. I go, oh,
you're right. Oh my God, yes.
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And I go, Sonia, because she was trying
to struggle. I go, Sonia, maybe you need
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to lose a little weight. That's all I
said. And guess what, Andy?
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That's when I started putting hand to
mouth.
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I went from 147 to 152, and you can
attest to that. If a good girlfriend
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tell you you need something, who can?
Sorry.
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She told me that.
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I was so embarrassed I cried.
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Well, now you lost 27 pounds. Not
because you shamed me. I had to go to
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desert and get connected with my
spiritual side. I didn't shame you. I
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maybe you should lose a few pounds.
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Maybe I should get a friend that's a
little more compassionate. Because I
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you don't want to buy new clothes.
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July from Queens said, Dorinda, you gave
Elise a lot of grief for defending
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Ramona, but hasn't Sonia been doing that
for years?
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Sonia flip -flops. You know, she
depends.
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No, she's always defending Ramona, even
if she's wrong.
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True that.
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Elise was coming to Leah and I
constantly and saying how terrible
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being to her, and she couldn't figure
out why.
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When we're not with you, girl, we're
great.
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It's only around this group that she
gets a little weird.
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She just shuts it down.
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You know what it is?
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Ramonaville is filled with a lot of one
-way street.
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I still,
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to this day, don't know why you two fell
out. Why did you fall out, Ramona?
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She's a black widow.
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And I knew this, and I should have never
trusted her.
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Follow your gut. I felt bad. But she did
betray Ramona. So you felt like you
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brought her on the show and she was
talking about you. I will come on the
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and these girls don't have your back,
but I will. And she didn't have my back.
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She betrayed me. Same thing, Tim. She
didn't want her to have any again. You
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wanted her to have blind loyalty to you.
Yeah. And she didn't. And she didn't.
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Right. Okay. And she betrayed me. So why
would I want her around me? Is she the
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Barbara Kay of this season?
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Yeah. Are you and Barbara Kay not
friends anymore? No.
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Wow. You got to have loyalty. That's too
bad. You have to respect people. That
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was a long friendship. Yeah, that was
her doing, though. I mean, you're not
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Adele, Luann. No, I'm not, and I don't
pretend to be, but to actually say that
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was not very nice for me to hear.
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But I always feel like you're about to
ruin a friendship over something like
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that. Yeah, and it was Elise's doing the
same thing.
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Valerie from Chicago said, Ramona, you
were accused by Sonia, Dorinda, and
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for being friends when it's convenient.
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And that you're in your own world and
everyone is just living in it.
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What do you have to say about that? No,
I'm with friends and people who are...
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happy and bring me happiness and are
positive people. But that's not what
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friendships is about. Sometimes you're
not happy. Sometimes, I mean, my
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I've had friends for 20 years, and I
know, but then that's just called
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superficial friends. That's called
acquaintances. But if I am going through
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something traumatic, I have to find a
friend that's going to shepherd me and
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journey me through that. Here I am. Life
isn't about always being happy.
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When Luann's down, I'm there. So, to
wrap up this conversation, How are you
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ladies feeling about Ramona after all
this?
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Sonia? We're family.
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I love her.
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You seem like you are going to do a
reset.
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I'll probably never ruin your backyard
again. That you, I can promise you.
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She cleaned it up. I'm not going to get
naked.
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Can you get naked though? I want to see
you naked. All that you're going to do.
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I want to get naked. I want you naked.
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Coming up.
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I don't think.
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Dorinda hit below the belt. What?
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I'm sorry. You need to think about that.
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Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New York City Season 12 reunion.
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We are freshly sanitized and ready for
more.
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This season, Sonia by Sonia Morgan made
a promising deal with a major retailer.
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But unfortunately, Sonia's townhouse
continued with its promise.
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to be an expensive nightmare.
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Take a look.
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This would be our wedding final look,
right?
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We started the fashion line in 2014 and
now we're going back to fashion week.
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Who is this? He's a photographer.
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He's a photographer.
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He goes at the end of the runway.
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It's nerve wracking.
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Here we go.
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Cute. Cute.
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I would have worn that.
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This is Sony by Sony morning.
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It's a really great moment for me.
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I got a $1 ,200 bill for like three days
of water just running, running,
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running. I am so stressed. I'm paying
rent at my apartment at Columbus Circle.
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I'm paying the overhead of the
townhouse.
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Elevator still broken?
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Oh, my God. It probably runs me about
$50 ,000 a month. So it's not a big deal
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for most people who live in townhouses,
but for me?
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Hell yeah.
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I said to Sonia, I haven't spoken to you
for days.
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You know, there's a certain sadness that
lives within her, which I think is
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still struggling with her past. And she
has to work on it. I feel like I've
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really developed a great relationship
with Sonia, but I still feel like
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just something she's not communicating.
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I hide when I go through something. I
only call you when I'm feeling great and
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have great stuff to tell you. I hide. We
worry about you, that's for sure.
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These are the bottom lines.
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Yeah, show the bottom lines. First year,
we lost five months.
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Okay. Second year, we had nothing, zero.
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Did we get more sales from the fashion
show?
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No, no, we did not.
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I know that in fashion, many times you
do have losses up front, obviously.
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is a future, though.
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So we want to do something special.
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Downtown, our flagship, over 200 ,000
square feet of store.
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On top of that, we want to also carry
this in the Herald Square store.
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I'm trying to be so serious in this
meeting, but inside, I'm dying.
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ever doubted me before i don't have to
be right and i never say i told you so
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but it still feels good congratulations
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sonia i still have to pinch myself as i
said because it's been such a long haul
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and actually an overhaul of so many
things and myself this whole time so
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feel good where i'm sitting i've been in
the fashion business for years and the
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fact that sonia was in two major retail
stores of century 21 front and center
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are you kidding me it's all about
placement honey that says it all I was
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proud of her when I walked in to finally
see it living on the floor and looking
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good. I actually bought one of her
dresses.
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You girls have been there for me every
step of the way. I thought it was so
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having sat here with you for so many
years and the toaster line didn't come
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fruition.
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When does the toaster come out? You saw
the toaster, and it has my signature on
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it. When does it come out?
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I have it. It's ready to go.
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But it's part of a whole collection. The
tongs, the mitts, the aprons, and I
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needed a hang tag for each thing.
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You had the women all over you for
various cheater brands.
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I think it's kind of a fluke that, you
know, tipsy girl and skinny girl. Oh,
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think it's both drinks?
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I think you're a fraud, and I don't want
anything to do with you. So it would be
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a great way for me to get ahead.
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Products that never launch.
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The Nigerian football team. The hang
tags. The hang tags.
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I get hundreds of emails all the time.
People saying they would like me to do a
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jewelry. They'd like me to do a wine out
of a can.
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But I have to meditate.
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I would like to do my abundance candle
like that. To look at all the
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opportunities that come my way.
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And here you are. You're in a store.
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And it must feel very satisfying.
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It is satisfying, and I know my
daughter's very proud of me, and I
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her, these are not mistakes, these are
experiences, and I've made many
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connections in the business, so eyes are
on me.
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Well, so how has the pandemic affected
everything?
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I mean - Well, retail online is up 117%,
and everything that I had online is
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sold out. Well, that's a great thing.
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It's tough retail, very tough. Well, I
think that right now, the cashmere suit
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that you wanted me to wear to your
party? Terrible. You look like a
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terrible, terrible.
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Not for here.
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No, no, no.
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Anything that looks like that right now
is going to be selling the F out because
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no one's wearing dresses right now. I
got to ask about the townhouse. What's
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price now?
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It was 10 .75.
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I'm putting it down to 8 .5. How many
square feet is it? It's 4 ,800 square
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feet. Wow. Two gardens and a balcony.
And it's a great townhouse. Great
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location. I have one request. Before you
sell it, can I please come see it? Yes.
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And step inside? I would like to come
see it. I've never.
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You want a party.
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It's like history.
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I want to come see it. Why doesn't Briar
Bowl rent it? We'll all just film
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there. Everyone can live there. That's
the next season. Yeah.
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Sonia, any prospects for men?
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Dating, basically, I wasn't getting
laid. I was so focused on my daughter.
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she's a sophomore in an Ivy League
school, so guess what?
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It's time for Mom to get something.
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All right. Just give me a little of what
you're getting. Okay.
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Ladies. Give me what you want to get.
Now you're open for business.
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And you look hot.
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Yeah. I need another five pounds off.
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Oh, I don't know about that. Okay, Andy.
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Coming up.
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I love you. Why are you doing this?
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Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New York City reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen.
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A wise woman once said, I made it nice.
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But this season, as Dorinda's temper
flared and anger arose, it was clear
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nice wasn't always on the table. Take a
look.
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You know, I'm trying to get everything
done, and I'm stressed out all the time.
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Bluestone Manor flooded, so I had to go
through the house and just rip out the
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whole heating system, the whole
electrical system, and I'm so
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There's nothing carefree about me
anymore.
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I'm not nice to anybody.
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I am scared every day.
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Of what?
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Hannah's very dependent on me, so John's
very dependent on me. I'm always
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running the show.
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00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:14,010
It's not that I can't lean on John.
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That's odd.
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But you remember, John has never had
responsibilities like this.
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Dorinda missed having Richard or having
a partner to help her in the Berkshire.
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Hands -on guy.
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What can I say? John doesn't take care
of her. I mean, she has to take care of
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John for goodness sakes.
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You know this word?
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You like people's misfortune. You like
to deflect from you to make people feel
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bad. That's not true.
427
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,160
Do you think it's nice when you have a
good girlfriend and when they don't like
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something, they say right away, are you
drunk?
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At this point, I kind of feel bad for
Ramona. You drunken fool. You have a mug
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shot of your drunkenness.
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Was I aggressive? Yes.
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Do I regret it?
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Nope. She's judging you on your drinking
and you on your piss. Judging me on my
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drinking? I didn't go to jail. I don't
mind probation. I don't break probation.
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00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:03,780
That's not very nice of you.
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00:24:04,540 --> 00:24:07,260
Don't you bring it up. I'm bringing up
what she said.
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00:24:07,460 --> 00:24:11,040
Every time you bring up something with
her, she deflects. And all of a sudden,
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it's your fault. We want to help you.
Don't you understand?
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00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:17,140
There's no problem here. We want to help
you. You're not getting it. There's no
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upsetting that you won't listen.
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00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:23,400
She's going through pain. And rather
than feel it, she's projecting it. If
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don't get that...
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I'm not.
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Stupid bitch.
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All right. Jack from Minneapolis said,
Dorinda, at the very beginning of the
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season, you said to Sonia, there's
nothing carefree about me. I'm not nice
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anybody anymore.
448
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,200
And then you proceeded to prove it.
Looking back, do you think you ended the
449
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,100
season in a better place than you
started?
450
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:14,740
I think that I was more overwhelmed this
season than I've ever been. And I don't
451
00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:16,400
think I reached out for help enough.
452
00:25:16,990 --> 00:25:22,550
between the house and John and then I
had to go and break my rib and Lucy
453
00:25:22,550 --> 00:25:28,790
and then filming and I couldn't catch a
break and I just didn't want to be there
454
00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:33,390
and I was angry. I was really angry
about what was happening about it and I
455
00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:39,810
definitely projected it and I did feel
like I couldn't cope with it. I really
456
00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:45,380
did. I was at my width end. I think the
thing that made me really sad and
457
00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:50,840
probably the most upset is that I
didn't, you know, I know you so well,
458
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,780
and you're right. I was angry and I was
struggling and I really felt like you
459
00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:56,780
made it worse.
460
00:25:57,100 --> 00:26:02,560
And you never called me once outside the
show. You never took me to dinner. All
461
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,680
you did was remind me the whole time.
462
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:10,720
And you, as much as you didn't like John
and stuff, it was mine to go through.
463
00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:12,740
Ramona, put that away. And I needed you
to do it.
464
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,380
I... When's the show ended? I texted you
every day. Here's text. And the show
465
00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:22,860
ended. Ended. I didn't want it when it
ended. I was there when the show ended.
466
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,680
I went through it. You were fine? Yes, I
was.
467
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,740
The show ended. I got through it. I
moved into my place.
468
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,660
and she wanted to continue it. I needed
her to pull me aside, not constantly in
469
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:39,740
front of people, hammer me. Do you think
you were in a place to hear it from
470
00:26:39,740 --> 00:26:42,480
her? Yes, Sonya helped me with it.
471
00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:46,380
Sonya would, I would cry to Sonya at
night, and I think I cried to you quite
472
00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:49,560
bit. A person I just met, I had to show.
Well let me ask you this, when Lou
473
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040
tried to talk to you, you weren't open
to it.
474
00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:56,150
You can be angry at people without going
crazy on them. I will not sit here and
475
00:26:56,150 --> 00:26:59,390
listen to this because I think it's
ridiculous. After everything that I've
476
00:26:59,390 --> 00:27:03,750
with you. And if you live in the past,
you go nowhere. I don't live in the
477
00:27:03,770 --> 00:27:07,830
I love who I am. You know who you are. I
love who you are too, but I don't like
478
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:08,830
it when you're angry.
479
00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:10,150
Great, I'm good.
480
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:11,410
Thank you so much.
481
00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:13,730
Well, Lou I feel bad about.
482
00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:18,150
I felt Lou was coming from a good place.
I really did, and I'm sorry about that,
483
00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:19,190
Lou, because I love you.
484
00:27:19,330 --> 00:27:22,150
Ramona, I felt like she was just
waiting.
485
00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:25,490
And you felt that too, didn't you? Yeah,
absolutely.
486
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:30,650
Yeah, it's just that you seem like it's
coming from a genuine... Back at the
487
00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:34,290
orchard, when you first broke up with
John, I realized how much pain you were
488
00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:37,870
then. Because you weren't even
admitting. I was like, wow. I think I
489
00:27:37,870 --> 00:27:40,230
saying this to you. I was like, you guys
were together for so long.
490
00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:44,490
Now you're broken up. Like, you must be
in, like, what's going on? Oh my God, it
491
00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:47,830
was terrible. I know, I'm sure. But
like, we didn't get to see that, you
492
00:27:48,050 --> 00:27:53,810
But this is interesting to me because
you do hold Tinsley to a standard of she
493
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:55,410
needs to do it all on the show.
494
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:59,730
I did do it all on the show. And now
you're saying that you didn't show it on
495
00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:04,290
the show and that you wanted her to
contact you. Hold on, but you say you
496
00:28:04,290 --> 00:28:05,470
Ramona to contact you.
497
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560
Off the show. I wanted Ramona to call me
and just say this.
498
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Are you okay?
499
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,580
Or on the show. I love you.
500
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,980
I'm here for you.
501
00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:16,940
Ramona. Once Tinsley left the show.
502
00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:21,250
then Dorinda made me her punching bag.
I'm sorry you did.
503
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:25,730
And basically what happened was she came
to my home for cocktails and
504
00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:30,110
conversation and it was really
upsetting. She said some very hurtful
505
00:28:30,130 --> 00:28:35,070
I love you. She wants to put people down
all the time. I love you. So basically
506
00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:36,810
Dorinda doesn't know how to say.
507
00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:38,760
Can we let it go?
508
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,420
I'm sorry what happened. So during the
day, the next day, which I loved and I
509
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,860
appreciate, she goes, you know what? I
made you a playlist, like the old day
510
00:28:45,860 --> 00:28:51,260
tapes. This was the day after she on me
and like made me feel terrible and cry
511
00:28:51,260 --> 00:28:54,960
at my apartment. But that's her way of
saying it was a cry for help. We were
512
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,200
both hurt. Fine. So I'm like, fine. Then
the next time was at the Halloween
513
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,560
party. She was terrible to me. And she
wrote Ramona, I don't like fighting and
514
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,520
we need to get past this. So we continue
possibly XO. Let's have fun next. I go,
515
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,240
I love you, Dorinda. There's nothing I
would not do for you. You scammed us.
516
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640
scammed us. She's explaining herself. I
love you, too.
517
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Can I finish? I asked you. You did your
thing. She's responding to you. No. I'm
518
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,940
not going to listen to that guy. I want
my texts out. I want her to be present.
519
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:25,020
It's one -sided.
520
00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:25,979
Five months.
521
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:30,420
So basically, for the Halloween party,
I'm done with it. Okay, so she doesn't
522
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:33,220
want to hear you respond. Dorinda, stop.
Stop it. She used us to get a free
523
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:36,800
party. Stop. She dragged us. That's what
she did the whole season.
524
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,220
Use people.
525
00:29:38,620 --> 00:29:45,620
No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I love
you. Why are you doing
526
00:29:45,620 --> 00:29:46,620
this?
527
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,700
Stop. Sonia said stop. She used us the
whole season.
528
00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:01,280
Use people. No, you didn't. No, you
didn't.
529
00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:03,929
Five months.
530
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:08,170
Five months. I love you. Why are you
doing this? Don't throw things in front
531
00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:10,790
me. It's so low class, like everything.
I know.
532
00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:13,890
It's low. You are. Because you know
what? Can I say something?
533
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:15,510
I care about you.
534
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,490
I care about you. Okay, I would like to
hear it. Lou.
535
00:30:18,770 --> 00:30:20,090
Lou, what do you think? Yes, Lou.
536
00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:23,930
Lou. What do you have to say? That trip
to the Berkshires was, you know.
537
00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:28,890
Obviously, we drank too much, and you
said some very hurtful things to me.
538
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:32,510
you said very hurtful things to Sonia.
What? Listen, it doesn't give you an
539
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:36,970
excuse to say what you said to me
because of Sonia. You're correct.
540
00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:41,690
So that doesn't make sense. Okay, that's
not even the worst. The worst was also
541
00:30:41,690 --> 00:30:45,230
in Mexico, where you brought it up yet
again.
542
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:51,610
I know you don't mean it, but I want you
to recognize how hurtful that is. She
543
00:30:51,610 --> 00:30:52,610
does. And then...
544
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,420
You know, to make matters worse, then
you go on Andy's Watch What Happens Live
545
00:30:56,420 --> 00:31:02,020
and you talk about it. And Andy asks you
point blank, do you regret what you
546
00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:03,620
said to Luann? And you said no.
547
00:31:03,980 --> 00:31:06,320
So I was like, oh my God.
548
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,580
Does she have no remorse for the way you
behave towards me?
549
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:14,160
And that was wrong. Don't you look at
yourself and go, oh my God, I can't
550
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,260
believe I said that to Lou.
551
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:20,340
And that, yes, and that was wrong. And I
want to definitely go back to where we
552
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:23,060
were when we first met because we had
such a great love affair. I know, but if
553
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:28,780
you're harboring these thoughts when you
drink and it comes out, it's like, holy
554
00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:31,160
shit. Would you pick these up?
555
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320
I would, but I'm allowed to get that
close. I'm not feeling the love. But you
556
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,320
can read them.
557
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:36,680
Andy, you can look at them later.
558
00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:42,500
Dorinda says you are compassionate to
her. If she doesn't feel Ramona, it's
559
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,440
compassionate. And I want to work on
that.
560
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,540
I really do, because I think you and
I... Well, I mean, I want you to work on
561
00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:52,800
the fact that, you know, you are holding
these resentments towards me. I really
562
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,339
am not.
563
00:31:53,340 --> 00:31:57,480
I can't change that for you. Dorinda, I
mean, there must be some resentment or
564
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,140
something. You have brought up the
arrest and the mugshot and the Giovanni
565
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,160
thing. Well, I find it... Well, the
Giovanni thing I'll always bring up,
566
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,600
No, I'm kidding you. I hope not.
567
00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:12,180
The arrest, I find it interesting that
Lou wants to lecture me when, you know,
568
00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:16,160
it's between Ramona and I and she steps
in and lectures me when we're in such a
569
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,180
good place. And that makes me angry. No,
it wasn't about Ramona at all. It was
570
00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:24,180
about what you said to me and owning
that and saying, you know what, Lou, I
571
00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:28,080
should have never said those things. And
I don't feel from you that you are,
572
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:33,040
that you really mean it. How can you
look at yourself on the show and say,
573
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,040
shit, I need to change.
574
00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:39,940
Well, I do, with you. With her, I don't.
Lou, I want to work on that. I care for
575
00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:43,160
you and I love you. We don't understand
what's going on. And I know you have the
576
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,520
best intentions for me. Why do you have
so much anger? I really, really do. This
577
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,700
isn't a hell of a thing for Ramona. This
isn't a way to act.
578
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,820
Well, let me ask you this. Look, you
were on the Mexico trip. You were on the
579
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:59,140
other side of hearing the women say that
they wanted to talk to Dorinda. You
580
00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:02,900
were no help. You've seen her go after
Lillian. Why are you mad at me? This is
581
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,760
serious issue. You're not getting it. I
know, and they were trying to get...
582
00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:10,460
Well, also, like, Dorinda's always been
super cool to me, and I haven't had
583
00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:17,020
any... Right. So, looking at it as a
friend of Dorinda, who she's been very
584
00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,360
and inclusive and whatever, what's your
reaction to this?
585
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:24,760
With Dorinda? And I'm not trying to just
make excuses for her bad behavior or
586
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,000
whatever, but... Oh, so you admit
there's bad behavior.
587
00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:30,720
You should not. Hold on. We all admit
that it's anger and not good and
588
00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:37,420
I would kind of, like, rather deal with
someone that... has anger issues, then
589
00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:42,160
deal with someone that says horrific
things like Ramona has.
590
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,340
Because I don't think Dorinda hits below
the belt.
591
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,140
What? I know you do. She goes below the
belt with me. What? She makes a blog.
592
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:52,900
Are you kidding me? Are you on the same
show as us?
593
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,820
I'm not excusing Ramona's behavior at
all. Right. But you can't say, to look
594
00:33:58,820 --> 00:34:03,300
me and say what Dorinda said to me is
not below the belt. I'm sorry, you need
595
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,860
think about that. No, you're talking
about Ramona, mainly. That was below the
596
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:08,940
belt. I agree, that is. That was below
the belt. Okay.
597
00:34:10,110 --> 00:34:14,170
I have a bunch of questions. Larry from
Richmond, Virginia said, ladies, I'm not
598
00:34:14,170 --> 00:34:18,409
sure I heard a single sincere apology
from Dorinda this season, but I did hear
599
00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:22,590
lot of defensive retorts meant to shut
you down. I'd like to know if any of you
600
00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:27,030
have any theories as to why Dorinda is
as defensive as she is. I think because
601
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:28,030
was in a lot of pain.
602
00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:33,850
Do you think you were defensive? Yes. I
felt very wounded, weak, vulnerable.
603
00:34:34,170 --> 00:34:38,409
Like I said at the winery, I felt like I
was really like a toothpick in an ocean
604
00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:39,409
with no help.
605
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:41,190
Can I say something?
606
00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:45,570
It's out of love. All we wanted you to
say was like, oh my God. I couldn't,
607
00:34:45,570 --> 00:34:47,810
Ramona. I was in such a, you're not
listening to me.
608
00:34:48,290 --> 00:34:54,190
But that's all we needed. I couldn't,
Ramona. I was in such a damaged place. I
609
00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:58,490
actually needed someone to, I mean,
literally to tell you the truth.
610
00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:03,650
I probably should have taken off this
season. It probably was too much. I
611
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:06,570
I told you that. I was like on the verge
of a nervous breakdown. And you were
612
00:35:06,570 --> 00:35:09,490
crying a lot. I know you were crying. I
want to talk about the anger
613
00:35:09,490 --> 00:35:12,830
intervention that happened at lunch in
Mexico.
614
00:35:13,330 --> 00:35:16,610
That was ridiculous. Seeing how it all
unfolded, it doesn't seem like you
615
00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:17,650
the right moment there.
616
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:21,760
No. My daughter was on the phone, not
doing an invite that you could do in the
617
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,100
other room. It's my daughter. You came
and sat down with us. We were already
618
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:28,920
working. I'm off. You blow up and you
get really angry. Right now you're
619
00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:32,520
Don't even start that. You're angry now.
No, I got to go congratulate my
620
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,520
daughter on her success.
621
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,620
But I can't do it in front of people
that she thinks are offending against
622
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,620
I take it so hard.
623
00:35:39,580 --> 00:35:41,780
I'm not interested.
624
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:45,600
It was just another opportunity for her
to poke the bear.
625
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,840
Hannah's calling me about the Bloom
Award she got, and right away she was
626
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,860
to use that again. Even though I did
think it was overboard for Dorinda to
627
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:58,520
me and Sonia to get off of our laptop
and whatever that morning, it's still
628
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640
different than a daughter calling.
629
00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:03,560
Like, it's a different thing. Yeah, but
you just get up and you remember. Then
630
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,620
you leave the table. So to make it,
that's all I'm saying is that it doesn't
631
00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:09,660
up. Then you leave the table. No, but
you turned it into a bigger thing
632
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,440
you couldn't help yourself. You flew off
the handle. You know, it's kind of
633
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:18,480
ironic how the season ended given how
great pals you and Dorinda were.
634
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,400
It was a comment you made at Drag Queen
Bingo that really set Dorinda off. What
635
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,180
was going through your mind when that
happened?
636
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:28,940
Oh, whoa. I was kind of shocked.
637
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,720
Which the lamb wasn't.
638
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:37,070
I was bummed because I was about to give
them props and tell them that, you
639
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:40,950
know, I loved them and appreciated them
and had a great time with them.
640
00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:46,230
But obviously that word Tinsley just set
it off. But we did talk. I mean,
641
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:50,310
Dorinda called me the next morning and
was very upset and apologized to me. Why
642
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:54,450
did the mere mention of Tinsley's name?
Well, I think that it wasn't authentic.
643
00:36:55,290 --> 00:36:58,350
I thought it was. What, like me saying
it? No, I just thought it was like she
644
00:36:58,350 --> 00:36:59,089
wasn't there.
645
00:36:59,090 --> 00:37:03,430
I thought we did such a great job as a
group after she left halfway through the
646
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:07,470
season. I was surprised we were going
back to that. But I wanted to give her,
647
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:11,310
wanted to mention Tinsley because
Tinsley was an important person to me in
648
00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:13,990
of you guys, too. Yeah, and that's why I
called you the next morning. Right.
649
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:18,770
Henry from Athens, Georgia said,
Dorinda, I'm one of your biggest fans
650
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:21,330
your debut on the show. I'm begging you
to hear this.
651
00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:24,390
it's okay to admit that you're wrong
sometimes.
652
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:28,530
Looking back at this season, can you
give any examples of times that you
653
00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:29,530
you may have been wrong?
654
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:34,970
Definitely with Luann, 100%. I feel very
bad about that and I feel bad about the
655
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:35,970
thing.
656
00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:39,980
with you, Leah, because that was wrong.
We're in the finale, but we definitely
657
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:40,799
talked about it.
658
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,000
You know, I feel bad that Ramona and I
couldn't come to terms this season,
659
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,380
because we have a 20 -year relationship,
and we really do care for each other.
660
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:54,460
But I didn't feel like she had my back
at all. The question is, how do you
661
00:37:54,460 --> 00:37:56,620
reconcile it, do you think? Well, I
think the way for Ramona and I to go
662
00:37:56,620 --> 00:38:01,660
forward, if we want to continue our
friendship, is to just not rehash it and
663
00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:02,660
to...
664
00:38:02,879 --> 00:38:06,860
start building our friendship again, if
it's important to you. I just think it
665
00:38:06,860 --> 00:38:09,360
is. You are important to me. I love you,
Dorinda. I think we're all in a reset.
666
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:12,480
I love you and I'll always love you. I
don't care what you do to me, I'll still
667
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,238
love you. Like Elise?
668
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,360
You love her more than Elise. No, I love
you and we've known each other 20
669
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,060
years. I don't care what you do to me,
I'll always love you. So it's important
670
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:19,680
for us to work on that. You can try to
kill me, I'll still love you. She's
671
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,520
that thing where she looks in your eyes
and she like... I really would like to
672
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,940
try. I would like desperately. I'm not
sure we're gonna do it, but I think it
673
00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:30,600
would be worth a try after 20 years.
674
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,980
Dorinda, look at me. Look at me. Can you
please look at me? Yeah.
675
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,700
I want that and we will do it. All
right. Well, that's it.
676
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:41,340
No, really. I mean, no, you can't touch
each other.
677
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,560
OK, well, that's a great place to leave
it. All right. Thank you. And, you know,
678
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,680
by the grace of God, I got through and
hopefully, you know, 2021 will be a
679
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,320
better year for all and a happy year for
all of us.
680
00:38:55,390 --> 00:38:58,650
in a circle and it only goes back up you
know no we don't want to we just want
681
00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:03,290
to go off yeah all right let's leave it
there we are going to take a break we'll
682
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:05,150
be back with final thoughts after that
683
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:11,810
welcome
684
00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:17,090
back to the real housewives of new york
city season 12 reunion ladies this
685
00:39:17,090 --> 00:39:22,100
season has been another one for the
books And the months that have followed
686
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:27,240
felt stranger than fiction. So before we
end this chapter, I wanted to ask each
687
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,098
of you this.
688
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,420
We have all had a lot of time to reflect
recently.
689
00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:37,080
Looking back, which moment from this
season would you like to socially
690
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,080
yourself from?
691
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:44,640
And which other housewife are you most
looking forward to hugging when this is
692
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,040
all over? How about you, Ramona?
693
00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:52,580
Leah? When I said something about your
issues, mental issues.
694
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:54,340
Thank you. Should have been to you
directly.
695
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:58,200
And Dorinda, I can't wait to give a big
hug.
696
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,400
That's nice.
697
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:01,720
Thank God we got here.
698
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,520
I think obviously Luann, you know,
because I really feel like I hurt her in
699
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680
vulnerable place. And I'm really going
to work on that.
700
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,520
I think as far as the hugging goes, I
think it's just.
701
00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:16,610
really unfair because I really look
forward to hugging everyone.
702
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:19,430
I just miss hugging so much.
703
00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:21,610
You're a hugger. I'm a big hugger.
704
00:40:22,030 --> 00:40:23,030
She's a lover.
705
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:26,370
It's like food to me, so I want to hug y
'all. Lou?
706
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:28,690
Socially distance myself.
707
00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:33,460
Let's see. Probably from, you know, that
night in the Berkshires. It was just
708
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:39,140
ugly. And the way I behaved with Sonia
and, you know, seeing myself like that
709
00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:39,939
and angry.
710
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:44,220
I'd like to distance myself from that.
And I agree with Dorinda. I'd love to
711
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:45,740
everybody. But I love you all.
712
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Sonia? I think I've made it really clear
this reunion I want to socially
713
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,260
distance myself from not having control
of my prescription with my drinking.
714
00:40:57,930 --> 00:41:02,430
And I really am very grateful to have
the show to show me how I was behaving
715
00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:06,250
because I didn't know. And I am grateful
to Ramona. We do have a special
716
00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:10,690
relationship where you can tell me
something and you hold my hand and tell
717
00:41:10,690 --> 00:41:14,730
you know, you need to look into it. So
thank you for that. But as far as a hug,
718
00:41:14,830 --> 00:41:19,570
I got to tell you, my girl Dorinda, for
every time I called her and not wanting
719
00:41:19,570 --> 00:41:24,630
her to know what was going wrong with me
and what I was trying to handle, she
720
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:25,630
would share.
721
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,720
with me what was going on with her, and
it just made me feel I wasn't alone.
722
00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:32,520
I owe you so many big hugs. Thank you.
723
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,100
See that? You're a giver.
724
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,260
Dorinda's a giver, and that does bring
anger.
725
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,600
No, that's true.
726
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:46,760
I think I would probably socially
distance myself from the entire state of
727
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,760
Island.
728
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,780
Yeah. And honestly, surprisingly,
729
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,100
The person that I want to hug most is
Ramona because my mommy issues are still
730
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:58,220
alive and well, apparently.
731
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:02,940
Well, I'm going to be more of a friend
to you than a mother from now on, okay?
732
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:06,620
That'll probably work out a lot better.
No, I think it will. Actually, it will.
733
00:42:06,940 --> 00:42:07,940
Yeah. Wow.
734
00:42:08,340 --> 00:42:12,960
All right. I actually feel like we
accomplished some stuff tonight.
735
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,400
Thank you, doctor. Thank you for an
incredible season.
736
00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:21,350
I look forward to getting close enough
to toast with you next year.
737
00:42:21,690 --> 00:42:27,230
And in the meantime, stay safe, stay
healthy. And I can't wait to hug all of
738
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:30,050
for the record. And thank you for a
great season.
739
00:42:30,270 --> 00:42:31,690
Thank you. Thanks, ladies.
740
00:42:32,170 --> 00:42:33,170
We did it.
741
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:35,350
Is that good? Okay.
742
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:41,430
Hold on. Can I get a selfie with you
guys? A socially distant selfie?
743
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:43,950
Is that going to work? Yeah, it will.
744
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:45,950
Come a little closer.
745
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:48,800
I'll send it all to you.
746
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:50,300
Okay.
747
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,920
Here we go.
748
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,240
Okay, this is good.
749
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,740
That's actually cute.
750
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:01,500
Ramona, can we go to the speakeasy after
this?
751
00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:05,700
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