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Tonight, it's the Real Outsides of New York City Season 11 reunion.

Oh, wow.

You got a two -for -one right here.

How you doing? You look handsome.

Hi. Hey, Curly. Hi.

I don't think I'm in the hot seat this year. Well, I know who's in the hot

I know. I know exactly why I'm in the hot seat. How can you tell my friends

you're trying to break into society with as you're reaching your 70s?

It was rude. It was inconsiderate. The whole situation when I get pissed off.

say you're sorry and we move on.

We'll do extra powder in case these bitches make you sweat.

Have you gotten back together with him since then?

We went on a trip. Well, that's kind of getting back together. No, it wasn't.

Last year, you were not at the reunion.

Right. This year, you're stepping into it. I feel it's very one -sided. You

another person I love in my life and decided to piss all over them. No, I did

not. So, but it's fine.

I believe you're still drinking on the side.

What do you think about that? Well, I think you are. You're kind of in a good

place with everybody.

When you talk loud, you sound like a moron. But, Luann, I don't think you

sobriety that seriously.

I just think that I've had so many things happen this year. I've been in

all week. My lawyer always says anything can happen in a courtroom and anything

can happen at a reunion.

Okay, Dorinda.

You're always first. You're always ready.

Hi. Whoa.

I know you told me to watch. Okay, I actually need some help. Hi, Ramona.

Hey. Hi, Tins. Hi.

Hi, Miss Morgan.

I love a navy suit in the spring.

Hello. Woo!

Hi, Lou.

Oh, here we go again, Sonya. Hi.

Hi. How are you?

How did Cleopatra go in here?

You got your purse?

She's going to be sitting like this.

I'm going to hide it behind the pillow. I was just pulling out my tape from my

face. It's not going to stick.

That's how the gals used to do it in the old days.

All right. We ready?

Five, four, three, two.

Is this the real deal now?

Hey, everybody, and welcome to the Real Housewives of New York City Season 11

reunion. I am Andy Cohen, and we're here in Lower Manhattan to put the final

touches on another masterpiece of a season.

Welcome, ladies.

Thank you. Hi, Andy. Hi, Sonya. What did you say I was? Who am I? Christy

Carrington? I called you Crystal Carrington. Oh, yeah. Dynasty. Yes.

But, in fact, you're wearing... Oh, Sonya by Sonya Morgan.

Very good.

It's like $105.

Oh, my God. Hi, Dorinda. Hi there. How are you? Great.

Am I to assume you're wearing... No, don't say it. No, I'm wearing 9com. I

you wanted to go to a showroom like two or three years ago.

I know you asked him to borrow dresses or something. He doesn't really loan out

dresses a lot. I mean, unless you're a huge movie star. Right, exactly. Or he

makes dresses for Michelle Obama.

Right. Well, you're not going to this showroom. I'm not.

You can keep your $400 dresses. Thank you.

Thanks, Teresa. This is an amazing type of couture dress.

Hi, Luann.

Hi, Andy. Great to see you. Good to see you.

Luann, you were not here last year. Right.

You entered tonight's reunion with a lot of emotion surrounding you. I mean, the

women have had a lot of opinions about you, and I know you all just watched the

last few episodes.

How's your head coming into the reunion?

My head is humble and, you know, I was totally self -absorbed and I totally own

that. Wait, can you repeat that? You said you were totally self -absorbed?

Did I hear you correctly? You know, and then I was self -absorbed because I was

really trying to take care of myself the best way I could. And I don't think you

girls realize that. To be around you all the time and not drink is really

difficult for me. It's the wrong way. And I went into self -protection mode

because I, and it may have come off that I was. May I say something? We are

going to get into this heavily.

Hi, Tin.

Hi. How are you?

I'm well.

Great to see you. Nice to see you.

You have a line of lashes, I heard. I do. Are you wearing them today? I am.

good. We all got a nice set. Congratulations.

Hi, Ramona.

Hey, Andy. Wearing Ramona blue. You didn't let us down. Absolutely not,

That's a different blue, though. It's a deeper blue.

Oh, it's a deeper blue.

Ramona, are you deeper?

Yeah, I hope so. I'm trying.

I'm doing the best I can.

Ramona, something's different about you.

What? You have to tell everybody?

All right. I had really bad cavities in the front. I need veneers. So Dr. Appa

did my whole mouth.

Ramona has new teeth. I actually didn't notice it, which is good.

Yes, it is good.

That's good. I was nervous that they were going to look.

No, they're very natural. It looks good. You did the whole up and down. Ten top,

ten bottom. So you're a bottom and a top.

Yeah, I'm a top and a bottom.

Hi, Bethany. Hi, how are you? Great, how are you?

I'm okay, thank you.

I thought of this as you were coming in, but Dennis actually, people don't

realize it, came to the last... Several. Several reunions. I think three

reunions. He loved it. What did he love about it? He liked minutia. He liked the

nonsense. What did Ramona say about that? Why would she say that? Did you

to Luann? So as you came in today, was he...

On your mind?

He's always on my mind. He's very missable. Like every day there's

like, what's done cannot be undone.

Humor is its own excuse.

Like he just had, you know. And he absolutely adored you. And I know, I

And I miss that.

It was a big year for you and a big year for a lot of you.

And we certainly have a lot to discuss today.

All right.

They say home is where the heart is, but sometimes home can also be where the

heartache is.

This season saw half the ladies starting fresh by pulling up old roots and

replanting themselves in new ground. Watch this.

I love the simplicity of the smaller apartment. Each day I get up, I feel

fresh. I'm in the park every morning.

I feel so much lighter not living the day -to -day bustle at the townhouse.

Look, I've never had a leak in this house. Look at my beautiful baby!

In her new apartment, Shania shines when you see her. And the minute I walked

into the townhouse, she's like manic. I'm getting manic right now. Ashley, I'm

glad to see that you look so happy because, you know, my apartment's going

the market and I'm really nervous.

And I need something new and fresh. You know, I'm ready. That's nice.

I need a fresh start. It is so time to sell my house. This past six months have

been all about this huge emotional change. And the last part of it for me

moving. Well, so do I need help? I want the department through my eyes and my

eyes only.

I wanted it to be all mine. First thing in 25 years, that's all mine.

Where do you want me to set up my stuff? On the left?

Just hold off on that for a second.

She moved into a new house? Yes. I did. Upstate New York. Yes.

This is where all the cool people live. I love it. The chic, discreet types.

Exactly. Like us. In Hampton, I felt like, you know, people passing by were

looking in my windows. And I did have photographers in the bushes. So I didn't

feel secure.

Upstate, I don't have that problem.

You like it, Jess? Yeah, I do. It's really pretty.

If anything would drive me to drink, it would be to live up here. I really like

the way you decorated this. I think the girls genuinely think the house is

great. Unless they're really good liars.

Last night you were saying, eh, this is the poor neighborhood.

Well, I said Kingston isn't the best of area, but this house is gorgeous.

Okay. So, Lou, what was your reaction when you heard Ramona say that Kingston

a poor town?

That's what Ramona does.

I mean, we went to Marrakesh, and, you know, do you remember that?

Yes, I do.

Yes, this is the wrong side of town.

Ramona. Because this doesn't look like a really upscale area.

This looks okay.

Oh, right, we're going to see another donkey. You're sleeping outside with a

donkey. You know, if you live on the wrong side of the highway, you know,

is always kind of putting it down, which is, you know, that's Ramona. Well,

Ramona. Is Kingston a poor town?

Basically, actually, a friend of mine is in real estate, and he's not going to

even look at Kingston until like 15 years from now. So she's ahead of the

10, 15 years, take a look at Kingston. It'll come back. All right. It's a very

beautiful town because of the history. She said it would drive her to drink.

Right. Because it is so far a trip anyway, right?

Exactly. I didn't think it was probably going to drive me to drink.

Where's my drink? I'm glad you admit that. No, but it was very quiet. I just

like a little more action in the town. This was in her budget, and it's what

wanted. It's on the water. You got the yacht.

I love it. That's all that matters. Okay. You know, you talked a lot about

Hamptons being too much for you.

People were after you, and you're a high -profile person that's lived in the

Hamptons. Do you have the same problem that Lou was having there? Listen, I

to be constructive, and I want to be positive.

I said it on the show. I do think that you sometimes have a God complex and

delusions of grandeur. We've never seen any of these pictures published that

these roving photographers jumping out of bushes are in. Well, they're there. I

walk around the Hamptons in my pajamas.

They're there. And Kelly Ripa and Howard Stern and Jimmy Fallon and Billy Joel

and Jerry Seinfeld are without incident, but Luanda Lucep has to move to a...

bungalow in Kingston, it's a little bit of another breach.

And respectfully, when I was at your house during intervention week, you

that people were...

going by in boats with cameras, and they weren't. They were just going by in

boats. I was there, and you were paranoid. I was paranoid. And I

believe that there were not people jumping out of bushes because we would

seen those pictures. There's one of me getting my mail. I'm in my flip -flops

and a yellow sundress. It doesn't seem to be a problem for Madonna.

Madonna is my neighbor, and she has no issues. You're friends with Madonna, and

so Luanda will step in and walk the streets, but Madonna has no issue.

did happen and you know those pictures are out there and when you get arrested

you become very popular let me just put it that way um sonia how's the townhouse

just seeing that clip my heart started pounding again and i was breathing heavy

is it rented out of the house is the i was rented yeah for 32 000 36 000 now

that's really good Dorinda, how's your new place? I love it. I'm so happy in

Sutton Place. Yeah. I know everybody.

Nicole from Killingworth, Connecticut said, Dorinda, you really emphasized how

this apartment is all just for you. What does that mean for your relationship

with John long -term?

Our relationship works. I see him two, three times a week, and I enjoy him, and

then he goes home. You gotta remember, I've been living with someone else my

whole entire life, and it is really...

It's so self -satisfying to kind of own your life, own your space.

It doesn't mean we're not having sex, everyone.

And it kind of adds excitement.

You know, you have to see each other every day. It makes it a little more

Ramona, what's happening with your apartment?

It's still listed. You haven't sold it? Until I get the contract signed, but I

have accepted offer.

Oh, yay.

Oh, great. It looks really good. You had to drop the price a couple times on the

apartment. Absolutely. It's a tough market. And you know what? I just

with Sonia and Dorinda, with them moving on, I said, you know what?

I can sit there and hold out for an extra whatever it is. Is that going to

change my life? Is it going to change my lifestyle?

No. Now you can move into my building.

You're going to give us the address? Yeah, don't give us the address.

Single men, come on by. She's got a doormat to protect her.

Okay, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

Coming up.

It felt like I was in a haze. I was in shock.

I was in shock for a long time. It was hard to come back to the show.

Welcome back to The Real Housewives of New York City Season 11 Reunion.

Still grappling with the passing of her soulmate Dennis, Bethany knew she had to

forge ahead in spite of her grief.

With business booming and court cases looming, Bethany leaned into the

that was life and love after death.

Let's watch.

And how long is it supposed to be until you start to feel normal?

It's going to take a while. Dennis passed away three weeks ago in his

We've been, you know, tag teaming, making sure you're okay.

You guys have been amazing. I'm going to start crying, so I don't want to say

it. You know, whether we were going to end up together romantically or not, he

was still my person.

I loved him so much, and we were family, and my daughter was so close to him,

and I knew him for so many years. Once you have someone like a Dennis or a

Richard, it's a different love you're looking for. There is no roadmap for

grief, and it's okay.

I haven't told anybody this. I had just said I have to exit this dynamic.

I feel guilty that the only way that I got off the ride is that he's dead.

Well, it actually sounds like you tried to get off the ride before he died. I

hope that I didn't have anything to do with him dying. I don't know what

happened that night.

And I will always have to live with that. But I feel like he would want me

feel better and I try to make decisions based on what he would want me to do.

And then, you know, am I supposed to be dating?

Loving somebody else is a testament to the love you had with Dennis.

Do I hear you have a boyfriend?

I kind of do. I'm just trying to be relaxed about it because it's good.

It's evolving.

I'm happy.

But I still love and miss and am mourning Dennis.

My divorce slash custody battle lives on.

This is about seven years after my breakup.

It's bad.

It's really bad.

Let's get that call with that guy.

I'm realizing I'm taking on too much, Bert.

We need to take some air out of the tires.

It's going to be okay.

I have multiple offers to buy a skinny girl. I'm open now to...

moving around some pieces on the board. I want to take some pressure off. I

can't live like this anymore.

I just drank a cup of hot soup.

I said, my hands feel tight.

And Paul went to get a bend drill and he came back and I was unconscious and I

was drooling.

I got to the ER and then I heard the guy say that if no one was with me, I would

have been dead. That's what's freaking me out. If I was alone and I don't want

to be alone now.

I'm taking it as a wake -up call. I'm changing my life. I swear to God, I'm

changing my life.

When I was going to the emergency room, I felt Dennis pulling at me. But now I'm

done with him.

Go be where you are, and I'm going to stay here.

Right. Thank God. You're finally in a good place.

Scary baby.

No, seriously. That was very sweet. That was very sweet. No, seriously.

For almost being dead, you look really good. Yeah, I know. You're on your

deathbed. That was very sweet.

Wow. Yes.

A lot of tears.

Yes. Yes.

It's been almost a year since Dennis passed away.

How are you doing?

I'm doing well. I actually think I'm doing well. It comes in waves. There are

delayed reactions. But I really have moved away from it. As many of you have

probably pointed out, I shut down and move on. And then it seeps in. It seeps

out of the pores. So you don't know where you're supposed to be. But I can't

believe he's gone.

I loved him deeply.

And I don't know.

if I would have been able to be in the place that I'm in now if he were still

here.

Interestingly enough, when he passed away, you were broken up, yet he was

this large presence in your life, right?

So we had broken up many times.

He was always in my life. So we'd even, he'd see Brynn sometimes, and he'd come

in and say, please, can we get married? Please, can we, I love you, I'm gonna

change. So I'd get pulled back in. And truthfully, when you're older, you don't

know. if you're going to get your big fairy tale. You already have kids, so

you're not sure if you should be dating, should be getting married. I'm sure we

all go through that. So because I had this security presence in Dennis, where

it was a Thanksgiving and I was going to be alone, I could always be with him or

be with his family.

So I wasn't giving myself what I deserved in a relationship because I

maybe this is it. He loves my daughter. He's a good person. He's wise.

And maybe I do the Dorinda and John program.

Maybe I do the a la carte relationship, the non -traditional. What was it

that... he needed to change to be in a relationship with you?

Well, Dennis could not be present. We would be together and so strong and very

in love, and then he would disappear.

So he wasn't dependable sometimes.

Something had happened on Mother's Day where he was supposed to go with Brynn

and I to the plaza, and I ended up alone for Mother's Day because he went to

sleep and did it. He stayed in bed all day. He said, I'm going to give you the

best Mother's Day ever. You deserve it. And then Brynn and I were alone. I was

always alone.

It was worse because I would say to him, I'd rather be alone than be in a

relationship feeling alone. You want stability and family.

Marlene from West Hollywood said, Bethany, were you actually engaged to

when he passed?

I don't consider that we were really engaged.

He proposed and I was saying, I guess it happens in the movies, okay, I'm

accepting this ring and let's see if you, exactly.

Dorinda, considering what you've been through, you were the person that was

equipped to kind of.

Guide her through what she was going through but ironically you were also the

one That knew that maybe she needed some space

Because I think grief is so individual. And I just think you've got to do

whatever you've got to do every day to get through it. Period. Done. You told

that in the brochure.

I don't have family. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know it was real. That

day it happened. It felt like I was in a haze. I didn't know what was going on.

I was in shock. I was in shock for a long time.

It was hard to come back to the show. I felt more comfortable saying to her.

This is bad.

Right. And I needed to hear that. This is bad. It's okay to say this is bad.

Right. And then trying to do, this is what you do right. This is what you do

wrong. This is the manual. This is how you feel. This is what you thought. It

helped. Luann, did Dennis' passing spark any thoughts in you about your own

recovery? No.

But I was extremely saddened by it because I thought the world of Dennis. I

really did. I liked him very much. I didn't know him that well, obviously. I

know. You're honest about that.

but he really helped me.

Well, there were a lot of vague references to how Dennis helped you. How

help you?

You know, there were a couple of things. I can't talk a lot about it because I'm

still in it.

Let me see if I can say this.

Coming up... I was there constantly for you the first time you went to jail.

What do you mean the first time? You implied that she's been to jail more

once. This would make me feel like...

That's what you do.

There were a lot of vague references to how Dennis helped you. How did he help

you?

Let me see if I can say this.

He got her a very powerful, very, very powerful lawyer, one of the most

lawyers in the country. Dennis got for her. And then we was able to find out

information about Luann's case and help her very much. That nobody knew, that

even my own lawyer didn't know.

How else did he help you?

Financial. He offered to help you financially. So you went to him?

And asked for $6 million?

Asked me to ask. Yes.

Basically, I asked Bethany to ask him. Yeah, and she asked me to ask Bethany.

You're saying you didn't know him that well. I know. Yet you're asking Bethany

to ask.

I'm going to accurately describe it.

Let her describe it because she knows. And she knows the truth. He does have a

financial services company.

But truthfully, I remember I was in the car.

The phone was blowing up. I pulled over the car on the side of the road in

Bridgehampton. And she said, it's an emergency.

She was in a manic state, and that's fair to say. That's true. She was in a

manic state. She was obsessing over this house. She was obsessing. She was

calling everyone.

Well, not everyone, but she was calling some people. She was like, you have to

give me $6 million. I need $6 million.

I'm like, what do you mean? Dennis helped you with your kid. I think that's

enough. And then she was moving on to the next person she was asking. So

how we were part of the process. And that's true. Alton from Queens said,

Bethany, were you seeing the hot catering guy and your new guy in between

periods of dating Dennis? Good question.

I dated intermittently. What would happen was we would break up for a month

two months, and then I'd be like, okay, and I'd say to Dennis, I want to meet

someone. And I met the catering guy in the Hamptons, and we dated for a couple,

six weeks, two months. I know. The hottest guy on the planet. I know.

You ready to rock and roll?

Groovy.

We really very, very much into each other. There's an age difference, and I

wasn't ready for that relationship, to be honest.

He's ready. He's ready. He looks ready.

He was ready.

Well, that was a hard pill for Dennis to swallow, seeing me in a picture with

him on the beach. That was a hard pill for all of us to swallow.

Seeing you and him on the beach. And I looked like shit on a cracker. Yeah, I

was like, oh. That was crazy. No, that was too early.

So in the midst of grieving for Dennis, You get hot and heavy

with your current boyfriend, Paul.

So last Christmas, I went out on a date. I remember talking to Tinsley and being

like, I really like him. And I thought I was an idiot because I was saying like,

I don't know, I feel like it could be like the one or something. I was really

into him. And we went out a couple of times and I just wasn't really ready.

I was too needy, if that makes any sense. I wanted someone to give me a

guarantee. This is the guy because I didn't want to get hurt.

So he comes back into your life after Dennis passes.

He just came back and really courted me and was like, it was great because I had

a history with him and I sort of trusted him. And you're still together.

And we're still together. Have any of the women met him?

I've spoken to him on the phone. He sounds lovely. I met him briefly. I saw

for a second on the street. We were here in Palm Beach, and we hung out and met

his parents.

They were amazing.

We had so much fun.

Loved him. So why don't we see him on the show? He is a very private,

conservative, reserved person.

He is calm and balanced, and this is not for him. And you know what?

Listen,

I've mentioned it all.

All right.

Gwyneth in Palm Springs said, Tinsley, don't you think it's rich that Bethany

says you don't share anything about Scott when talking about her boyfriends

always on her terms or off limits?

Well, hearing right now that you're keeping that separate and Scott really

not want to be a part of it. I've thought of that and I've thought of you.

that was a really challenging trying to balance. But you met him on television.

I understand that. Out of curiosity. But that's not my fault. Oh, hold on. He

didn't want to do it. No, this isn't an argument between us because I have.

thought about that and I thought it seems like a double standard.

Not only did you meet him, he agreed to sign a release and be on television, but

did he send the Kentucky Derby Secretariat flowers?

Hello, we got some flowers.

No. Oh my God. That's more John style. Oh, he said 365 roses for 365 incredible

days. Oh my God.

Wow. Well, that was his way of being a part of it without being a part of it.

Hold on. If Tinsley asked you to call Paul on camera, would you do it? Maybe,

without him being on speaker.

I'd ask him ahead of time. Now that we've had this conversation, I would ask

that. He definitely wouldn't want that by any stretch of the imagination.

I met Scott on the show.

I wanted him to be on the show. I get it. I wanted that. And I don't want him

to. So then she probably wouldn't ask.

Okay, have you sold your company?

I have not sold my company. I had several offers and I got very nervous at

last minute because it hasn't really reached its full potential.

So I let some very high salaried people go and I have outsourced more. So I just

don't like managing that many people. I don't want to run an operation.

You ended the season with a near death experience.

It was fascinating hearing about your time in the emergency room and you

like Dennis was trying to pull you in.

I swear. It wasn't something that I intellectually thought. I wasn't even

conscious. I was sort of like, I thought I was having a stroke and I thought I

was dying. I didn't understand what was going on, but I was on the stretcher and

I swear on everything. Also, I felt him pulling me. I felt it because that's

very him.

You know, as much as he said he wanted me to be happy, he wanted me.

It's very Dennis to say, the second he sees me in a picture with somebody, to

call me up and want to get engaged or go take a trip and pull me back.

It was very metaphorical, but it's true.

Is there a part of you that has guilt about being with Paul so soon after he

died? No, and I thought about what the optics would be and all that. It's not.

He's such a loving person. He literally saved my life. He saved my life

emotionally. He totally respects boundaries.

He wanted in the beginning to sort of make sure. sure that this wasn't some

transference, where I wasn't, you know, falling for him because of my feeling. I

mean, he's just a very, very wise person. Conscious guy. Very conscious

They say a door closes, another one opens. I mean, how symbolic was that?

He freed your spirit, this guy. I feel like that. I do.

Right, because you were sort of like on this merry -go -round. You couldn't get

off it. I don't know that I would have gotten off. I don't think you would

Yeah, I was worried. I really don't. Well, I'm happy you're off. I'm happy

have. Me too. You're on a happier ride. Me too, and that's why I was also

projecting onto Tinsley, because I was seeing her on this ride, and I knew it

was a train to nowhere.

Respectfully. All right.

Let's take a break.

We'll be right back.

Coming up.

You were really relishing the apology. You know what I felt about that? You

wanted her to bend down and really apologize. And that's the truth.

Welcome back to the Real

Housewives of New York City reunion.

A summer standoff led to malice between Luann and Dorinda that even a Tyler

Perry quote couldn't calm.

Would years of history help these two overcome their differences?

Or was this friendship destined to sleep with the fishes?

Watch this.

My real issue is Dorinda and how I'm going to deal with that because, you

she has so much anger and resentment towards me and it's really with herself.

Dorinda has made out. Given no remorse.

for the way she behaved.

Do you guys like my new dress?

Nice, dear.

Giovanni! Thank you, Giovanni!

I'm frankly not interested in seeing her unless she reaches out.

She was on Vino this summer. I kept saying ignore.

She said the spirited thing.

Awful.

Because here's the thing.

I'm definitely really hurt by it. Oh, wait, don't cry.

What is this? I'm disinvited to the clambake? You're not disinvited to the

clambake at all.

So you're saying I have to call Luann? No, no, this is sweetie. I'm not doing

it. When you haven't forgiven those who've hurt you, you turn your back

your future.

When you do forgive, you start walking forward.

Tyler Perry.

That was amazing. I love that. How deep.

Deep. I love that laugh of yours.

I'm so happy you're coming to the Berkshires. I'm so excited.

Can we get like yoga on Wednesday morning?

I'll totally take a habit. Any chance you have anybody for massage?

I can wave that.

I think Luann has mistaken my home for an inn. Don't tell me I'm in the fish

room. Wait, what?

If I'm in the fish room, I'm going to freak out.

They're never putting me in the fish room.

Anything I'm going to do right now, she's very quick to anger. So I'm just

to try to diffuse it a little bit.

I'm sorry for the behavior I exhibited.

We loved each other like family. I appreciate you owning it. This is what

been waiting for. I just wanted Dorinda to cop to it and to own it. Thank you

for doing that. That's the best communication you can do.

I love you.

It just feels really nice to be back as friends.

I'd like to present my friend, Dorinda Medley. Oh, God, this one.

With the first annual Giovanni Award for... And Ben's like, great. I will

you a lawyer's letter.

And you're not going to use me to bolster yourself. And I asked you,

leave her out.

I don't want to be a constant audience in someone's life.

She wants an audience all the time.

And I don't want, I don't have friendships like that. I care for Luann.

just...

I don't feel like it's an attainable relationship for us right now.

Thank God

I gave her that.

All right. Thank God it's half your show.

It's not half.

Your show is a combination of addresses and taking the piss out of your

castmates. Why do you have so much anger? I'm not. I'm just saying.

Really? Come on.

Why are you so angry? You feel unappreciated for the Giovanni

No. Because here's the thing. I did it because she was going through a really

hard time. She was in rehab.

I actually thought that we were in a good place over summer.

She actually called me on Mother's Day. We were talking. And then all of a

sudden, she, you know, she span out of control. She went back to rehab for a

second time.

And then all of a sudden, she came out. What does that got to do with anything?

Thank you for your concern.

What did she feel like you exploited Giovanni? You were always angry after

Rinda. Like, she brought you to a place. and then you're making fun of her about

cutting it up. It sounds a little exploiting.

Can I finish? She was the one that started it with the heckling me in the

audience. That's what started it all off.

Let's not forget that.

You wouldn't have a dress if it weren't for me. You wouldn't have anything to

wear if it weren't for me. I mean, you can't be grateful. That's okay.

Take the dresses. I was there constantly for you the first time you went to

jail. What do you mean the first time I went to jail? The first time you went to

jail. Okay? The only time. The only time you went to jail.

You implied that she's been to jail more than once. Oh, plenty of times.

I'm sorry. Plenty of times. Just to make me feel like standard, she holds no one

else. I want to ask you some questions. Okay, go ahead. Luann, why was the phone

call from Dorinda so important to you?

Because she was in the Hamptons. She didn't reach out to tell me she was

She didn't text me. Nothing.

Again, kiss the ring. If I came to the Berkshires, I would be the first one I

would text as you and call you.

You're in the Hamptons. This is where I live.

Sadie from Chicago said, Luann, you said that at the Clambake, you didn't need a

trigger. In what way would Dorinda have triggered you?

It was upsetting that we hadn't resolved the things between the two of us. It

was upsetting that she was in the Hamptons and she didn't call me or reach

in any single way.

You were writing me. I thought we were in a good place. I'd given you my prayer

card. Okay, but I want to interrupt you right there.

Part of the issue is you ended the season last season with some stuff that

come up with the Giovanni and all this stuff. She wasn't at the reunion. So you

two didn't ever really hash it out in this forum. And so you're doubling down.

I go back and all I want to do is see her and all she does is avoid me. This

friend of 13 years does everything in her power to avoid me.

She gets me disinvited to a clambake from a friend that I'm in. She doesn't

off. I reach out. I do everything I can. I bend over backwards.

I take the high road on every corner.

In fairness, Bethany was the one that suggested that you should not be at the

clan base. No, because we had a conversation and she was worried about

sobriety. I didn't know that that was so teetering.

But Luann wasn't the one who said it. I don't want to argue with Dorinda.

Then you might have to not invite Dorinda. Because truth be told, she's in

recovery 55 days. You know, you've done injustices to everybody.

And you've been not nice to a lot of us, and we have moved on and been nice, and

all of us do nothing.

Even these comments all year, we're jealous, we're this. You know what, Lou

Anne, to be honest with you, I don't feel like you have any substance

Up next.

You took another person that I love in my life and decided to piss all over

them. No, I did not. So put this fine, take it.

You know, you've done injustices to everybody. You know what, Luann, to be

honest with you, I don't feel like you have any substance anymore.

I think your whole life has been one big cabaret with Countess, and you just

don't... You're not the old Luann I knew we all feel that way.

She feels sick all the time. So respond to that. I'm the same old Luann. Well,

then that's sad that I didn't know you then.

And I'm sorry that I didn't know you.

Carolyn from Nashville said, Luann, what did you think when you watched the show

and saw how upset Dorinda was about the demise of your relationship?

She was legitimately... No, I know, I know. And I was upset too. I was very

upset. We didn't show that you were arrogant. No, I wasn't. You know what?

I was slow to warm up because I was hurt. That's all.

And I'm sorry that it was so slow for me, but that's just how I felt. And I

our friendship and I wanted to get the friendship back.

Well, let me ask you this.

She sends you the Tyler Perry quote.

Is Tyler Perry not capable of having a deep thought? Of course he is, but I

thought it was funny.

I can do no right in your mind, Louie. No, that's not true. Yes, you did. You

decided at some point that I can never do any right by you. No. After I stood

you like a soldier through these reunions. You stood by me like a soldier

then you let me down. You have a prayer card of mine.

I had a first communion that I carried in my pockets through everything and

through Richard's death. And I gave it to you with my heart. And you treated me

like an animal. Well, you know why? Because you treated me like an animal

you broke my heart. How do you think I felt about being heckled from the

audience like that? I get up on stage because it's so hard. You take someone I

love and don't invite them to something when you know you may not love them. No,

you didn't. Oh, my God. I've got a text to show it.

play again. So yes, I went to Javadi and I wasn't happy. Because you took

another person that I love in my life and decided to piss all over them. No, I

did not. So, but it's fine.

That's not true, Dorinda. You take it.

You don't remember. I did invite John.

I did invite John. I have the text that says, I'm at a mammogram.

I'm at a mammogram right now, but he's always welcome.

No, you did. You said, buy a ticket. You didn't invite John. You said, get a

ticket. Have him buy a ticket.

That's what you said. And I have the text. I have the text, too. Show it to

I will. I brought my purse. All right.

We already went through this last year. Okay,

while you look for that, Wesley from Burbank said to Dorinda, the Cambridge

Dictionary defines the verb heckle.

as to interrupt a public speaker or entertainer with loud, unfriendly

or questions.

Why did you keep denying that you did that at the cabaret when it was clear

you did?

I'm at a mammogram. This

is the beginning. She just got a call.

So Josh, the fat Jewish, has a table and John is not invited. But there's got to

be before that. He's been my boyfriend for six years and part of the show.

This is unkind. And then you said, hi, I'm at a man program.

Can't talk. Of course, John is always welcome. You only had to ask. Not sure

the status. And Dorinda said he got invited by a third party and is now mad

me. Now he doesn't want to.

Comment, oh, he's pissed at me. You said, love you, not my problem.

Yeah. It's my big, hold on. It's my big night.

Break a leg would have been a better message. That's right. You should have

asked sooner if you wanted him there. That's right. And Dorinda said, I'm

I just woke up to this. I'm so excited for tonight.

I love and adore you. I'm so proud of you. Please tell me about the results of

today. Right, of the mammogram. You say.

Really wanted it to be a girl's night anyway.

None of the girls are bringing dates. I'm fine, I still have two brats.

And then you invited Tinsley's boyfriend.

So the verdict is in.

She didn't say have him buy a ticket, but she did say.

I don't want to deal with this. You should be saying break a leg to me on my

day. And it's not my problem.

You said it's not my problem. I know, but can I ask you this? Not very nice. I

was very nervous.

It's the day of my show. It's not the day before.

It's not the week before.

But the day of your show.

I got to tell you something, though. I mean, it is showbiz. I hate to tell you.

Listen, I was at the Beacon with Anderson Cooper, and I had people

that day.

You're not hosting the Academy Awards.

I mean, it's amazing.

John is always welcome. I said it in the text. Yeah, you said it in the text.

Okay, Sean from Jenkintown, Pennsylvania said, Luanne, what's with all the

demands for yoga teachers, massages, et cetera, when you came to Dorinda's in

the Berkshires? Did you view that weekend as an opportunity for Dorinda to

it up to you by kissing your ass or what?

No, I didn't. I just... When you watched it back and you saw, can I get a

massage? It totally looked that way and I can totally understand why somebody

would think that, but it's not the first time we've done yoga. Did you recognize

that she was also...

bending over to try to meet your accommodations. She was a very gracious

hostess. She really was. And did it border on insensitive the way that you

reacting to the fish room? You stormed out of the meal.

She's trying to book your yoga and your massage.

I know, I'm just trying to keep my together at that point. And you know, I

overreacted. After she apologized at the bed, you went.

Well, I'm so glad she finally realized. You were really relishing the apology.

You wanted more.

You wanted yoga. You wanted a big room. You wanted her to bend down and really

apologize. And that's the truth.

Coming up.

I'm so over this Giovanni thing. Well, guess what?

DJ, hit Luann's new track.

Did it border on insensitive the way that you were reacting to the fishery? I

overreacted. Well, in her home, because I'm watching the show. This is not from

her. I watched the show. And in her home, after she apologized at the bed,

went, well, I'm so glad she finally realized. You were really relishing the

apology. You wanted more. You wanted yoga. You wanted a big room. You wanted

to bend down and really apologize.

And that's the truth.

I felt.

But you didn't accept any of your stuff.

I felt really cold about it. You felt cold about your own behavior? About my

behavior. I really saw that and I watched it and I was like, I can't cry.

can't feel emotion. I'm just, you know, kind of numb. And I don't want to say

it's been rougher on me than it has been on anybody else because I know we all

have our shit.

But it's just been a really hard, hard time for me. And I'm not excusing

I'm just saying I felt really...

I'm not angry.

I'm confused because I don't. The person I've known for 13 years, we used to sit

and laugh our asses off. No, I know. I miss that. We were so close. I miss

I do. I miss that so much.

I really do.

I really, I don't want to talk about any of these things anymore. Can we put a

period on it and try to move on?

Seriously?

And, you know, maybe it'll take a different form. But we can, you know, we

And, you know, in defense of Lou, and I have to say about the Berkshires, I have

to say this. Part of the reason when I was looking back at it, I think you were

nervous. I was nervous. I think you were nerved up. You know, you were still

transitioning through this period of recovery. And, you know, it was only two

months later. And I look at you and I thought, I actually thought it was

brave of you to go up there. And maybe you were looking as a loophole to get

out. What do you mean? Just to get away from those, to not say, well, I tried,

it didn't work, I'm going to a hotel. What you just said made sense. That was

very human. Now that you've had this reconciliation, I don't want to go

backwards. I'm curious to hear your thought process when you came up with

award that you were going to give to Rinda on your show.

Did you think that would go over well with her?

I was trying to like find a way also to like change.

To shift the narrative. To shift the narrative because it was just negative

I wanted to make it funny.

Did you really talk to a lawyer about that? Yeah. You did? I did. And when you

saw her singing Jingle Bells and she just made the Giovanni reference, did

make you feel better?

Yeah. I mean, I'm so over this Giovanni thing, Andy. I mean, what are we all

getting shares in it or something? Well, guess what?

DJ, hit Luann's new track. Oh, God.

Feeling Giovanni.

Louder. It has to be very loud. Feeling Giovanni.

I don't know if we're ever going to get it.

We have to let it go.

All right.

Congratulations. Do you like it?

It's fun. What did you think? It's catchy. I mean, I like her songs. I get

dressed to them in the morning. Yeah?

You say cabaret is your cabernet. Yeah.

That's fun. That's a good line.

You know, I was saying to actually my agent the other day, I said, you know,

getting on stage for me feels so good. And it helps me because it's a diversion

for me that I really need right now because I'm not drinking.

So I don't know what I'd do without it, to tell you the truth. It really has

helped me so much. Well, I'm happy to see the two of you in a better place.

Thank goodness. And I hope you can keep this going. It's only taken us a year.

It's a long night.

So I hope you can keep this going for the rest of the night, too. Says a lot

about you, too.

Good ladies.

Next week, the reunion continues.

How dare you put me in the fish room?

He asked me a question.

Oh! What kind of arrangement do you think she has? A damn good one, because

not, you know.

I mean, my mind is not so ageless. Blame it on the show.

Oh, my God!

Yes!

The first month didn't work for you, honey pie. You stayed another six

Don't talk to me, Miss Pinot Grigio. She failed herself.

I mean, do you think Barbara has too much tanner on her arm right now?

Absolutely. So you would say that to us. I feel like I'm next to the tin man. I

do feel like I'm at a Jersey Housewives reunion. What are the other ladies'

impression of Lou's singing?

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