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Tonight, it's part two of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion.

Jennifer Tilly, how are you feeling heading into your first reunion?

It's glittery and it's glamorous, and then there's screaming.

Girl, you said you were Chinese.

Where did that come from that you're Chinese?

Are we Chinese or are we not Chinese?

Bo said on the Hot Mike podcast when discussing text gate, Kyle is a liar.

I never lied.

Omission equals lie.

We went back to your room in Ochre the Pride and called PK.

Can you wrap your head around how fucked up that is?

You haven't said two words since you've been here. Sometimes. The person that

was in the season, who was so vicious, you know, with that really beady stare,

she didn't come today?

And I know you're used to buying people.

Who have I tried to buy, honey?

Oh.

Here she comes.

Here she comes.

It's part two of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion.

Hello, hello.

It's a big day.

It's good to see you.

Good, thank you.

Want some water?

Oh, I would love a coffee.

What kind of donuts do they have there?

The maple bars.

Oh, maple bars. That's my favorite.

Thank you.

You can't trust any of them. Yeah.

I didn't know that Kyle was so angry.

The thing is, with both of you, the two of you together are mean girls.

This is bullshit.

This is awful.

Can I go home now?

I want to.

How are you feeling about today?

I'm enjoying my lunch.

Very good chicken. No, not about the lunch.

About going out there on stage.

Oh, I'm excited.

How annoyed do I look?

Very annoyed.

Better to speak your truth now than have them come back later with some other...

Five, four, three... We're back with the Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen.

So we just took a lunch break.

Garcelle, was there something you wanted to say I heard?

Yeah, I wanted to say to Kyle that it feels like you told me things off camera

to shut me up. I told you off camera because it was stuff that I couldn't say

camera, and I was just touching and sharing with you.

It was my way of getting to a deeper level with you and showing that we're

friends and I'm touching you.

Okay. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you.

You felt a certain way about her telling you some information off camera.

Was it about she who cannot be named?

Yeah.

It's all like the tabloids, you know, all the stories, you know, out there. I

know there's a lot of curiosity about the person they would talk about. I'm

using her name intentionally.

I don't want to speak on anyone's behalf except my own.

It's not my place to talk about other people.

For people at home who are saying, wait, you're on a reality show, you're

supposed to tell us everything, you would say what to them?

I am not going to, for example, say something that is going to affect my

daughter's life for a TV show, for a network, for fans, for ratings, ever.

I agree.

So if it's going to hurt somebody that I love and care about, I don't care.

I just don't see why it's not okay for you to say, like, I'm not doing that.

It is okay to say, I'm not sharing.

Yeah. Like, stand in that. Like, ten toes down, and you're like, I'm not

to talk about it, and y 'all can feel any kind of way you want about it. I'm

doing it. But you don't have to say, like, oh, I'm sharing, I'm sharing. I

not say anything and just zip my mouth like a lot of people do here.

Doreen, you've said that Kyle has two sets of rules, one for everybody else

one for you. Yeah, but see, I also feel like that. You feel like she has... She

has to get up with Erica and then she gets up with me. How so?

It's just the same thing. Like, you're quick to forgive and let things brush

with Erica and not with me.

When have I ever held a grudge with you, ever?

You let things slide with her.

I don't let things slide with... I let things slide with you more than anyone

this group. And that's why I got to where I got to.

Genuinely. All I know is I had PTSD coming here today because I thought, my

is somebody going to come in my dressing room and show me a text?

What's up?

Hi, I've been wanting to reach out because I know we're in a weird place.

course, some of the interview comments hurt my feelings and creative issues.

They always do. I don't want to lose someone else in my life over a TV show.

would you feel if you got this message? I would feel manipulated. Okay.

So, Dorit, do you stand by reading the text?

You know, when Kyle went publicly and said that I exaggerated our friendship,

there were no more rules, that you couldn't go any lower, and that I

our friendship.

To me, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

That meant there were no more rules.

It was simply to demonstrate that I had sent her a text message months before,

no response.

There was a good three, four months. Oh, after my birthday, I remember you

texted me. That's right. No response.

Nothing. Didn't hear from her. No response. That was right after Watch

Happens Live.

Right. So you were upset about Watch What Happens Live. I was. How has Kyle's

new friendship with Morgan Wade affected your friendship with her?

Oh, I mean, she'll kill me, but I feel like the closer she got with Morgan, the

further she got from me. Wow.

Because that has nothing to do with our friendship. So that was just a way of

getting to dig in and say something that's going to create more issues for

out there. The question was specifically, how has Kyle's friendship

affected your friendship with Kyle?

And I answered honestly, Kyle, the last time we were close, we all had dinner

with Morgan in London for Mo's birthday.

After that, it's like you and I, you distanced yourself from me.

I guess, I'm trying to look at this from a different perspective now, that I

knew that, you know, Morgan had nothing to do with me, you know, pulling away

from you. I knew that it wasn't the case. You know, that comment bothered me

because it just created another issue, but I do apologize. You told Kyle you

believe the real reason she's mad at you is because of the comments about Morgan

on Watch What Happens Live.

Why do you believe those comments got her in trouble with Morgan?

Anytime Morgan's name is mentioned in any public forum, I'm sure Kyle gets the

brunt of it because she's the one who's introduced Morgan to this. You're right

in the sense that I brought her into this and I feel guilty about that

it causes her anxiety and she doesn't want to be part of that.

By the way, she is a public, she's a singer who has music out and performs

publicly. I know, but it's different than Housewives.

Fandom and all that, a very different vibe. True. But with that said. But with

singing and performing comes speculation about your life.

You know, you put music videos out there. She had not experienced it until

Okay. Well, she also experienced, I would think, greater publicity and

greater attraction and interest as a result of this. Guys, listen, everyone

a different perspective. Okay. She became a household name.

I didn't get in trouble.

She did not, it's not like that. She had a New York Times article about her?

See, well, that was, okay, there was not.

By the way, you're the one who had said. Can I finish, guys? Please. But I do

just want to point out, putting out a music video that is like the two of you

lovers, it contributed so mightily to a conversation that was already a

runaway train.

And that was.

Totally in her hands, I have to say. And mine. It's like at some point, you

can't have your cake and eat it too.

I agree. I mean, sorry. But you guys have said, you know, if they're going to

talk about it, let's give them something to talk about. So what happened was I

didn't get in trouble.

I was like, I just can't deal with one more thing. And it was just like the

icing on the cake of all the different things that had been like chipping away

at me.

So while she isn't like that, no.

Dorit, you said many times that what you wanted from Kyle was more openness and

honesty. And Kyle, you seem to want more accountability from Dorit. Did you two

get what you were looking for from each other? Have you gotten to that place?

I think that we can still work on that.

I think that I definitely felt like I was getting it until...

Of course, the whole PK text message, which I'm sure we'll end up talking

Right now. But I also feel like it's a work in progress.

Okay.

All right. Got to break here. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.

Coming up.

You said that there are secrets.

Can you just wrap your head around how stuff that is?

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion.

Well, as if Kyle and Dorit's friendship wasn't already hanging on by a thread,

Kyle's text thread with PK revealed things aren't always what they mean.

Or men.

PK's in a very unpredictable state of mind. I'm curious if you're speaking to

him.

If Kyle is talking to PK.

Without Dorit's knowledge, this goes against the girl code.

If I was Dorit and I found out that Kyle is keeping PK's secrets, I would be

done.

It's not even that Kyle's been communicating with PK since our

The point is that you're texting my husband when you and I are not talking.

That's not girl code.

I apologize and I will not talk to him again. What more do you...

And this is exactly why you are not friends with people's spouses.

You not showing her the text was really bothering her.

I'm not going to sit there and pull out my phone and say, oh, here, here. That's

what she wants you to do.

Oh, okay, well, I'm a principal, and she can write off.

I said, I know you have a lot of friends, but I am also one, and it's

you need me. I've never repeated anything you've shared with me, and

would. I don't know if her story is shifting, or if I heard it wrong,

all this time, Kyle is really defending that it's just memes and jokes.

My friendship with TK is memes.

And Joe.

Can you still be friends with PK? But I'm not even cool. I'm just going to say

don't send me memes. This is so dumb.

It doesn't feel right.

Can you read the text? Please.

I've been made to feel like I did something wrong sending a text to PK.

He said, I know you have a lot of friends. I'm all the one.

If you need me, I've never repeated anything you've shared with me. Meaning,

talking about this.

Okay, which I can't say because we were filming in production.

And that is all I... Now I'm done.

I'm not going to be made to feel I've done something wrong. I've loved you and

your family, everybody. I'm done with this.

I'm not doing this anymore.

All right.

Not pleasant to watch that back.

Do you not see?

I mean, I just wonder when you see that and you tell Boze she can go off if she

thinks I'm going to show her the text.

Can you just wrap your head around how up that is?

First of all, let me back up a little bit. That text to PK was not a random

on a Wednesday. By the way, I'm thinking about you. It was because this

separation happened.

We already went over this, Kyle. Now, I'm going to say it again. This is my

to talk. So you kept saying to me, why didn't you tell me that you had texted

PK? You and I weren't speaking. And then I did text you, and you never responded

to it.

I saw your announcement for your separation.

I texted both of you, period.

It was going around and around like this text was a random text out of nowhere.

It was only because of the separation.

It was not. Other than that, like, we really don't communicate like that. You

know that.

I did not blindside her with, you know, the right opportune moment about stuff

with PK. I mean, PK told me a lot of stuff.

I'm talking about Chuck E. Cheese and I'm talking about you reading the text.

Just so you know. I know.

Let me ask you this. After Chuck E. Cheese, she did wind up reading you the

text, right?

Well, she ended up, if you saw at Bo's wellness party, she did not want to. Bo

said, please.

Right. And she did and stormed off. Let me get into some questions.

I asked on Watch What Happens Live, I asked the viewers to vote in a poll

whether they felt that the text to PK was inappropriate.

You say absolutely.

And the audience says yes.

Absolutely. Of course they would say that. What do you think they'd say? Of

course they would say that. I understand that.

75%. I totally think. You understand that? Absolutely, I do. Okay.

Anyone here team Kyle in terms of the text that you heard being just fine?

I don't think it was what everybody thought it was.

I took what it said and.

Not talking about Dorit, but talking about this show.

Exactly. That's how I completely read it. When you do this, when you're in

environment. Nobody thought it was insidious. No, it doesn't. No, not after

these years.

That's not the point. No, we never said that. Nobody ever said that.

You have to remember that this announcement was made. I've never said

you said makes it feel like it's something else. I think the thing that

sticking is that you said, whether it's about production or it's about whatever

else, that there are secrets.

That's what it sounded like.

How would you feel if you saw a text from Dorit to Mo saying that he can

her because she's never repeated anything he told her and won't? And not

you. How would you? I understand.

How would you feel? I understand that would bother me. It would.

Yeah, I think that, yeah.

Okay. Because I know I would think the same thing. I'm just telling you my

intention wasn't bad.

But, Kyle, you can still be I. You can still abide by girl code. Okay, what was

your girl code when you read my text for millions of people to see? I'm sorry,

but that's already breaking girl code.

That's breaking friend code. That's breaking human decency code. Don't you

understand? At this point, we were not friends in my mind.

Coming up.

Have you texted with PK since?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

You can still abide by girl code. Okay, what was your girl code when you read my

text for millions of people to see? I'm sorry, but that's already breaking girl

code. That's breaking friend code.

Don't you understand? At this point, we were not friends in my mind. Yes,

exactly. We were not publicly. You're not my friend. Why are you my friend?

Call and go, by the way, I know we're not speaking. Wait a minute. But I sent

your husband and you both a text. I felt like every time I came to the group, it

was coming at me and coming at me. And it was, I had it.

These two, who don't even like you, are saying, I can't believe it. And then

she's saying, put your phone down. Let me look at that. And then you're saying,

Kyle, I want.

And it was everyone coming like this. I said block him. And I was like. Let's

just be clear. I said block him. I'm not doing that. Kyle, your reaction was so

over the top. It was. And it was so. What I expect you to say is, yeah.

Actually, you know, I sent him a message when you guys separated.

That would be the response I would expect.

We... Do you understand? I wish I had said it like that. But you didn't. I

You flipped out.

I am a girl's girl. I come from a family of all women. I have all daughters. I

have always been a girl's girl. And does that feel like a girl's girl texting

the ex -husband? Of course it does not. Or the separated husband you're

separated from. Of course it does not.

You are my friend.

And if we are as close as you suggest...

It depends on the day.

But if we are that close, you don't do that, Kyle. I understand that. But

not even friends with him like you are to me. But yet, you're on, you're in

confessional saying, PK's been a better friend to me than Dorit has.

Are you kidding me, Dorit?

And honestly, if I'm going to be really honest, PK's been a better friend to me

than she has lately.

Well, he checked on me when, you know, we were separated and, you know, I was

struggling and you and I weren't speaking. And that makes him a better

Just please.

All I need you to do is just marinate on this, okay?

I was not in a good place at all. Me either. Not at all. But when you needed

after the wellness event, which I came after you, Kyle, I saw you undone,

unglued. You're ridiculous.

I keep doing this. I really can't. Okay, let's just not talk about it for one

second and just take a deep breath.

No matter what my feelings were about how you hurt me, all that mattered to me

was making sure you were okay.

And I appreciated that a lot. That's it. A lot. Well, by the way, we weren't

speaking, and I also did my version of reaching out to you and trying to be

there for you, too, by texting you.

I also tried to be there for you. Well,

you walked outside to get me.

I was doing my version of reaching out to you and trying to be there for you,

too, when you announced your separation, Dorit, by texting to you. I think Dorit

just wanted you to choose her. No, I wanted her to be honest with me.

Both said on the Hot Mike podcast when discussing text gate, Kyle is a liar.

I don't know if Kyle knew that I thought she was a liar or that I think she is a

liar. Let me make that correct.

You know? It's like, girl, that girl was lying.

Oh, wow.

OK. What?

That's, I mean, I've never been accused of being a liar, so.

Well, there were lies told.

What? I said there were lies told. What was a lie? You said you were texting

jokes and memes, and then it was discovered you said something else.

I never lied. In the conversations that I was a part of, you said it was just

jokes and memes.

And then it later came out that it was more than that. So from my perspective,

which is all I was talking about, there was omission.

Omission equals lies.

It would have been okay to say, you know what, yeah, I did talk some shit about

you, but I was mad at you. I've never talked about Doreen. I can tell you one

time that he came over during...

The agency party we had at our house. And it was the first time, the only time

I've had a conversation about just you was about why we weren't speaking.

He's never gossiped about you to me. He's not going to do that. I said to him

when he was in my living room about me speaking because I was upset about this

or that.

She says you have to him about her.

Telling him why we weren't speaking.

Yes. Talking to my husband like he's on your side, trying to get him on your

side. He actually wasn't. He was trying to get these girls on your side and

showing them the text message.

Kyle, it's juvenile.

Have you texted with PK since?

I texted when Jagger was in the hospital. Does it bother you that she

when Jagger was in the hospital?

It bothers me that she believes she's got this friendship with PK

where... He holds her secrets.

And he wouldn't, because guess what? He tells me every single thing, Kyle. I

understand. So I know when you call him. I don't want you to think I think that

we have that. I just said that. I know. I know you do. Do you know what I'm

saying? And do you know how much I have bitten my tongue? Well, what more do you

know that she hasn't told you that he's told you? Just the thing that, you know,

she's reached out to him after Oceanside. She called him and told him

and I got in a fight.

You went back to your room in Oceanside and called PK?

After Oceanside, I called PK. This is before the whole thing came up about the

text message and the Viper room and all that.

And I said, just so you know, there has been a huge drama.

I think he was actually with Mo.

I said there's been a huge drama and a fight all about this whatever.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

Well, I want to move on, and this is... kind of it for talking about your

friendship. So is there a rule of the road? Where do you two go from here?

All I know is that you're important enough to me to want to put that aside,

know, to not hold on to it and to move forward and to get to a better place so

we can be there to support each other because we need all the support we can

right now.

And I do love you a lot.

Well, that makes me happy.

But I would love to get together, just you and I, no cameras, no girls, no

no none of these people, nothing.

And actually have, sit down and see where we are. Is it still there? Who

the first move on that?

I'm happy to.

And I apologize for any way that I've hurt you. And I can see where things

look weird. I understand that. I get that.

And I really do apologize for that.

I couldn't ask for anything more.

That's nice.

Okay, we're going to leave it right there.

Positivity. Keep that crystal.

We'll be right back. Choked out of my hand again. Yeah, I know. That was

What is happening now? Are we bringing out a special guest?

All right.

Off we go.

Coming up.

You know, when I saw a couple of comments that you made, it actually felt

you had joined the dark side.

Hi. Hello, gorgeous lady.

I'm so happy you're here. You are so pretty.

Hi. Hi.

Hi.

My God, this is amazing.

You look amazing. You look amazing.

You look like a Disney princess.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's not going to be here. Put it down. We are back

with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion Season 14.

Kyle keeps dropping her hand.

I'm Andy Cohen, and I want to welcome one of our most decorated friends of the

one and only Jennifer Rabbit.

Hi, Jennifer Tilly. You make it sound like I'm covered with medals of valor.

How are you, Jennifer Tilly? I'm good, thank you very much.

How are you feeling heading into your first reunion?

You know, I'm prepared for anything that comes at me.

Very good. Well, Jennifer Tilly basically sailed into this group on a

Vuitton boat, riding a wave of over -the -top energy.

And while she may own a piece of The Simpsons, this Oscar -nominated doll...

now owns a piece of everyone's heart.

Watch.

That's it!

That's it!

Jennifer is one of my best friends.

Jennifer has the best laugh.

I'm Jennifer.

I'm an actress.

People know me from Bride of Chucky.

But I am Oscar nominated, but nobody ever remembers that. I don't remember

My ex -husband was Sam Simon, who created The Simpsons. I was married to

seven years.

And then when we got divorced, I got a piece of The Simpsons. Because he

it during our marriage.

Every day, I'm like, thank you, Sam.

Like, hello, I'm not buying diamonds on Chucky money.

I'm living for her necklace.

It's Chanel.

It's her mess.

I expect Jennifer to like... roll up with anything at this point. It's a bow.

It's a Louis Vuitton bow.

I feel like life is short. I have fabulous jewelry. I have fabulous

I want to wear my fabulous jewelry and clothes, so be it.

Coding nada. Coding nada. Well, great boring.

That bitch has got good shit.

Oh, my gosh. I like the part where I walk in slow motion. That's one of my

special skills. Is it?

Yes. You know, you have been nominated for an Oscar.

You're a fashion icon.

You're a horror icon.

You've won the World Series of Poker.

Yes,

your bio on Instagram simply says, friend of.

Has the experience been what you thought it would be?

Well, it's really interesting because I used to get a lot of respect. Like

people would come over and they're like, oh, Ms. Talia, I'm such a huge fan.

And then they'd run away.

And now they're like, oh, scoot over, everybody. We want to sit down and have

kiki. And you know what?

Everybody knows I'm a Housewives super fan. And it's really different to be in

it. I'm sure you all know because.

You know, it's really real.

I mean, it's glittery and it's glamorous, and then there's screaming.

It's like the part that everybody loves. You seem to enjoy, you know, in

Oceanside, you were like, wow, this is a show.

I loved it. It was like dinner and a show.

And then by St. Lucia, you were kind of in the middle of it, and maybe it became

less fun.

You don't like being in the middle of it, you know? I want to talk about some

the spectacular pieces you paraded around.

this season. I have no idea I was such a show off. I'm just like kind of

embarrassed. It's the forum.

Scientists baked on Twitter said Tilly's boat bag is the only Vuitton I've ever

wanted. Cool AF.

Where'd you get that?

Well, it's designed by Pharrell, the singer.

I have a special relationship with my Louis Vuitton person.

Like a lot of people have a drug dealer. I have a bag dealer.

She's getting her special edition shipment.

So it's very rare.

So you know when they did in the Chiron at the bottom of the page, and they said

it was worth $33 ,000.

I called up my person. It's definitely worth more than that.

How much did I pay for that? And she said $24 ,000. So that's a big

You could probably sell it now for $34 ,000. I could probably sell it for $33

,000. Right. Nicole Street on Twitter explained that the aquamarine and ruby

belt buckle necklace you're wearing for the title suit has been called the most

important piece of American jewelry.

How clever of me. What makes that necklace so special?

Well, Cole Porter commissioned it from a jeweler called Plato for his wife,

Linda Lee Porter, who was a famous fashionista.

So it's a famous... There's only one. Wow.

Yeah, I wanted to buy it for 20 years. You bought that at auction?

No, I wanted to buy it. The first time I saw it, I couldn't afford it. And then

it got really rich. Yeah. And then I could afford it. And then I tracked it

and I bought it.

Wow.

So are the Simpsons checks more than seven figures a year?

I cannot say.

I cannot say. I want to take a guess. I'm looking at her jewelry. Yeah. It

absolutely is. Okay, I'm just going to... It obviously... And I just want to

say, for anyone getting any ideas... You keep all your jewelry at the bank in a

safety deposit vault. Yes, I have a safety deposit vault. Yeah.

You did a good job playing Switzerland most of the season. I did. I tried to.

the after show, you did throw in a couple digs. Yeah, I was a little

This future thing he was saying in the Beverly Hills Hotel, I don't know how he

can afford it. That's a really expensive hotel. Damn, did you hear that?

Okay, I'm going to do a preemptive apology, and I did not feel like that

DKU jury.

It's very expensive to stay at the Beverly Hills Hotel, but maybe only if

staying in the bungalows. I thought it was like $25 ,000 a night.

Oh, no, it's not. Okay, but that was tacky of me. I was just thinking out

but go tell your feelings and if that made you feel bad, because I don't mean

impugn you. I don't know if PK saw it. Well, you know, I have adored you since

the moment I met you.

But I was really excited, and we had some fun times. And I think you're just

such a fantastic addition to this group. I hope you're not going anywhere.

So when, you know, when I saw a couple of comments that you made, it actually

felt like you had joined the darker side.

Well, like the Witches of Eastwick.

And it just felt like, oh, no.

I do have a big mouth.

And I didn't even know I'd said something bad until...

And Garcelle's like, ooh, girl, you went there. And I'm like, where? Where did I

go? And then I thought, oh, I guess that is what.

And then I know that the fans were saying, oh, that was really shady, you

It's so fun watching you. And we're going to leave that there. And we're

to take a break. And we'll be right back.

All right.

You guys' reunions are exhausting.

I don't know how you do it.

Coming up. I thought you're Miss Manners.

I thought you're Miss Manners. I'm not Miss Manners.

I'm not Miss Manners anymore. You are.

No, I'm not. But you should know that that's rude.

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, look at Andy, please. Right.

We are

back with the Real

Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 14 reunion.

Now, I want to bring out one of my... Three favorite Richards sisters, though

swear I love them all the same.

Kathy Hilton.

Hi,

Kathy. You're floating out here.

Beautiful. Thank you. She brought her purse with her. She always brings her

purse. It's great to see you. It's good to see you.

Got a big kick out of you at Sutton's fashion show.

Okay, go.

She said that was very sweet of you.

How does it feel to be called Fashion Roadkill? I thought you were looking for

the bathroom. And I'm like, of all the times, the show is about to start right

now. No, I was talking to Mrs. Girardi.

I know Girardi.

I'm Mrs. Girardi, but I'm so sorry.

I'm Mrs. Jane.

Wait, what is your last name?

It's become a real conversation lately.

My name is Erica Girardi, but... But your last name, Erica Jane what?

Nothing. Erica Jane is just a professional name. It's her stage name.

It's my stage name. It's like a persona.

But your middle name is... Oh, I have a country middle name.

What is it?

My mother's name's Renee.

Allegedly, my father used to call her Nay Nay, so it's Erica Nay.

Oh, I love it.

Erica Nay, honey.

Kathy, I noticed you have an uncanny ability to extract gossip and tea from

these women in a way that no one else seems to be able to do. What's your

secret? Give me just like an example.

I thought at the lunch at your house, you did a very good job. You were

hysterical. What you said, I didn't see. Girl, you said you were Chinese, girl.

That was hysterical.

When I was in Venice, this lady knew everything and knew I am part

Chinese, 3000 BC.

What? Am I Chinese?

This happened on a couture show for Max Mara.

Where is it going? So you heard you were Asian at the Max Mara show?

Yes, in a castle.

You heard or you did a test?

Is it a psychic? Is it DNA? It's a psychic from Venice. No, it wasn't a

Please make me understand. Okay, in Venice, Italy, you found out you were

Are we Chinese or are we not Chinese?

There was a lady that said, what is your name?

And I said, Kathy Hilton. She said, what is your background?

I said, actually, I'm part northern Italian.

And she asked me for my birth name.

So I told her, and she looked it up. And she found out you were Chinese from 3

,000 years ago.

Where did she look it up? On her phone.

I don't think she was, she didn't even know anything about me. Obviously.

She said you were Asian.

Right. In Beverly Hills, the women are usually quite filtered. You came right

out and said Mauricio had aged badly and that PK looked 56.

A decade ago.

Yeah, when you met him. No, you saw his name with PJ.

Have you always been this shady or has hanging out with these ladies kind of

gotten you in the game? I think it's rubbed off a little bit. Oh, Kathy. Oh,

Kathy. Kathy, you are the originator.

No, I meant it in a good way.

You did?

I did mean it in a good way. Then he looked 56, 10 years ago? He looked more,

more... Older.

Older. Like, with the weight on him.

sophisticated the way no the way he just you said after to me he looks better

since he stopped drinking yes he did and you look so much now i see this baby

face yeah so he looked older when you met him before because of the drinking

so i said how old is he i always thought there was a bigger age difference

because also to read looks really young yes she does thank you very young thank

you

And as far as Maurice, he looked like your father when I look at the picture

compared to the way she looked.

OK.

On Watch What Happens Live, I asked Erica, who's most guilty of sucking up

Kathy? Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. Who in the group is most guilty of

sucking up to Kathy Hilton?

Sutton Shack.

Sutton. OK.

Give me another number. Followed closely by Garcelle. OK.

Do they suck up to you? No.

No.

Excuse me, can we ask Erica, based on what? Based on it's my opinion. I was

asked a shady question, I gave a shady answer. It's watch what happens live.

Oh, right. It's just to be fun.

Yeah, it wasn't like I sat around thinking about it. Sutton, what was your

response to that?

I'm not going to chew that gum right now, are you? I'm just going to suck on

for a second. Now, Kathy and I are friends. We talk a lot, and there's no

sucking up to.

No. We just are friends.

Did you faint last year because you were afraid of her? Yes, I did. That was the

narrative. No, I fainted because I had a terrible case of bronchitis and needed

to go to the hospital. It was a good way to get out of this. It was a really

great way to leave.

And I've been thinking about how I can do it this time, too, just about right

now. No, I love Kathy to pieces. Okay.

Before we move on, I do want to ask about Ken.

We've all read that she's not doing well. I also heard that she moved to

Florida. Is there any update?

She's spending time there.

You know, we just, I think she's doing better.

Is she?

Better than the last time that there was stuff in the press. Yeah. And that

always, yes, exactly.

Well, we're all thinking about her. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

It didn't take long for Sutton's ribbon ceremony about sisterhood to unravel

into weaponized wallets and watermelon cocktails.

In the end, was Sutton able to wrap up these friendships in a nice little bow?

The answer is a definitive no, ma 'am. Take a look.

Friendships are not perfect.

There are many ups and downs, twists and turns.

Let us join our palms together.

I really hope that this ribbon does what Sutton's intending for it to do. And if

not, I can save it in case I need to strangle one of these ladies. We are now

sisters forever.

God help us.

You can't be real and honest, so you can't lead the charge. You're angry and

you're not angry at me. You're angry at your life.

Ladies and gentlemen, the woman who loves.

to support other women at their lowest.

You have taken something and fashioned it into a way to hurt somebody else. It

wasn't to hurt her. But it did.

Did you ask Sutton, is there alcohol in it?

I mean, Audrey, shut up.

You're such a bitch. You need to pick on somebody else whose wallet fits.

Oh, damn. Okay, okay, okay.

You think you're bigger than her? I think my wallet is.

That was really cruel.

Just because her ex -husband dropped a big pocketbook in her lap, it gives her

license to be such a... You pose as a friend and then oftentimes

work as an enemy.

What do y 'all f***ing want from me?

Seriously,

what do you f***ing want from me?

No, ma 'am, are you going to tell me that I kick women when they're down?

Don't make me into your enemy.

Trust me.

That's a bitch.

All right. Sutton, what was your goal in doing the ceremony?

Just felt like we were all so disjointed, and I wanted to bring it

together. And if we get angry in the moment, that we can apologize and

still remain friends.

Let's talk about the word weaponized.

Yes. Jessica Rabbit on Twitter said, Dorit called someone at the table a C

-word, but what Sutton said about her misdirected anger was too low?

Okay.

Garcelle, do you think Bo's overreacted to Sutton's comment?

Yeah, yeah, I do.

How was that overreacting?

You said the words to hurt. No, I didn't. Yes, you did.

Not with intent to hurt. Yes, you did. But it did hurt her. You chose your

That is intention. I think the challenge I'm having with a lot of these

conversations is that you can't take accountability for your actions.

You said the words to hurt.

No, I didn't. Yes, you did. But it did hurt her. You chose your word. That is

intention. I think the challenge I'm having with a lot of these conversations

that you can't take accountability for your actions. It's like you've got to

say, I said this thing, I meant it, and you can forget it. But instead you say

you didn't mean it.

Oh, God. She was cussing at Camille like crazy.

Honey, you were a total to me.

Damn. You were a total to me. You know why? Because in one moment.

I called you stupid.

But that's not the way to get somebody to stop yelling.

There are so many better ways to do it. Well, OK, I agree. You know, there's a

lot of times I can say things in better ways. And I can learn from that. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. That's something that I can learn from. But see, but that right

there, that's taking accountability.

Well, sisterhood is all about sharing the difficult moments in your life.

The first time Dorit opened up to the group about Jagger, you really abruptly

interrupted her. He said, but you and Daddy.

You're always going to be friends, right?

You're always going to be best friends.

And I was like, well, I sure hope so.

I said, I certainly.

Yeah, that breaks my heart.

This is the thing about not only abruptly interrupted,

you then actually proceeded to be even more of a bitch. Well, it was long.

you know, this was a long walk y 'all went on.

We had been there for a while, and production asked me to interrupt you.

I didn't know. I'm sorry. I didn't know how to. I'm so sorry to interrupt. I

didn't know how to do it. I thought you're Miss Manners.

I thought you're Miss Manners. I'm not Miss Manners. I'm not Miss Manners

anymore. You are.

No, I'm not. So you should know that that's rude. I didn't know how to

interrupt. You should know how to interrupt. What if you had said.

I know this is a terribly awkward moment to interrupt.

Yes, I did it. But they're asking us to leave. Yes, so poorly. I'm so sorry. I

did it so poorly.

I did it terribly. You did it deliberately.

You haven't said two words since you've been here. Sometimes. The person that

was in the season who was so vicious, you know, with that really beady stare

that you want to, like, really go low. Where is she?

She didn't come today?

She didn't come today, Sutton?

Where is she?

Because this person is not genuine.

That's not who shows up, and that's definitely not who is here all season

Where's the person that calls everybody the C -word? I'm right here. That brings

us to Sutton's wallet comment.

Garcelle, was this the moment where you felt like you couldn't even defend

Sutton?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Sutton can't defend Sutton. I thought it was a terrible comment.

I was actually really shocked.

What about in her confessionals after that? Had to double down.

Oh, double down, triple down. No, I think it was... Then she went even

I thought that was... I mean... Actually, I thought it was a disgusting

I thought it was very beneath you. We talked about it the other night, and you

said to me, I'm not proud of that. No. And I said, you shouldn't be.

You did in a confessional say that you did kind of call me an alcoholic.

The only thing your wallet bought you...

Was a horse and not a date? Yeah, that wasn't nice either.

Do you think you deserved it?

You don't exactly live like the Queen of Sheba. Listen. You live on a main road.

So she lived on a street front in Bel Air.

That's what you're weaponizing against her?

I don't want to live on a main road.

I'm quite happy where I am.

And my life is.

Full of love.

There's a hell of a lot more to a big bank account.

A hell of a lot more, Sutton.

But you have to be nice in order to get love.

Dorit, I do not need for you to tell me that there is more to life than a big

bank account.

I mean, I don't understand why you think you're superior to anyone. I don't

think I'm superior to anyone.

Well, you certainly behave like it.

And I know you're used to buying people and buying gifts and trying to throw it

around. Who do I buy, Marie?

There's a lot more to life. What in the world are you talking about that I buy

people? Who have I tried to buy, honey?

Oh, here she comes.

This is awful.

It's terrible.

Here she comes.

Next week, the reunion concludes.

You told your girls you may be a lesbian, too?

Just to make you feel better.

It didn't take a rocket scientist to understand what was going on. You came

strong. I am strong.

Did you have any indication that he was seeing anybody?

I do know every, every crumb.

Ooh.

I'm out.

Oh, no.

What? Garcelle, that's really unprofessional.

Garcelle.