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- Brandon was
the full package.
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- You like that, baby?
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- Oh, yeah.
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Charming.
- That's good.
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- You like that.
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Charismatic.
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[tense music]
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- [laughs]
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- But sadly,
it was too good to be true.
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- The person that I thought
he was, he didn't exist.
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- Just stop. Stop. Stop!
- You need help.
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- I wake up to a text message,
"Your time is coming, bitch."
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- We found out Brandon
was in California.
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And there's a new woman
that's being preyed upon.
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- He was following her.
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His behavior started
becoming more possessive.
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- He was sneaking around
her house at night,
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looking through her windows.
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- He's gonna kill her.
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- Brandon has multiple charges
stacked against him.
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The resisting arrest,
the police chase
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with my daughter in the car.
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- Why isn't he being arrested
for all this stuff?
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- She finally answers
the phone,
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and I can hear panic
in her voice.
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- And he's got what
appears to be a gun.
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It's like a predator
going after his prey.
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[glass shatters]
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[relaxing music]
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♪ ♪
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- Rachel and I
were next door neighbors.
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- We actually did it.
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- I can't believe we did it.
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- She was definitely
more than just a friend.
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Rachel was like family.
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[screams]
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- Newly single, she hadn't been
dating for a very long time.
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So she was working through it.
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- She was looking for a guy
who was family-oriented,
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who was a good person.
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- So when Rachel
came to me and told me
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she found a guy that was
perfect, I was very excited.
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- See? Look at that.
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All opens up.
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- He had a daughter,
and his name was Brandon.
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- He had a PhD.
He dressed nice.
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And he looked
really good on paper.
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I thought
this could go further.
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- I knew that her
new boyfriend was gonna be
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my new best friend and my
husband's new best friend,
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and so I was really excited
to go out with them.
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[suspenseful music]
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- A little bit later,
we went out axe-throwing.
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We had a couple drinks there.
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Yeah, throwing axes
while drinking, that's fun.
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- Take it!
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[laughs]
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- The first half of the night
was so much fun.
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- Good job!
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We had a great time.
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Then Rachel and I
found a girlfriend,
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and we were dancing
with our new friend.
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- The girls are dancing,
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and I'm just having a beer
at the bar.
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Brandon had been there,
keeping an eye on her.
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And then next thing you know,
it's like, where'd he go?
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[upbeat music]
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- We had to go
to the bathroom.
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We were there
for a couple of minutes,
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and then the door slams open.
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And I look up there,
and there's Brandon.
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His eyes were blacked.
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They were glossed over.
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He looked like he wanted
to murder somebody.
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And he started
yelling at Rachel.
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"How dare you disrespect me?
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How dare you dance
with this other girl?"
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He had a glass cup.
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He smashes it down,
smashes everywhere,
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and just walks out.
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I was terrified because
I did see the devil.
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I saw the devil in his eyes.
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[tense music]
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I was just very grateful
that my husband was there.
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And Rachel came home with us.
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- I told Nikki that I just got
a really bad feeling about him.
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He's going to chop her up
into a million little pieces.
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He's--he's gonna kill her.
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- After the incident,
after the axe-throwing,
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I thought that that
was gonna be
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the end of Rachel and Brandon.
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[uneasy music]
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- If it was up to me,
that would have been
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the last time
we ever heard from Brandon.
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[all yelling]
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- But he turned
the entire situation around.
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He told Rachel he did not
throw the glass down.
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- He manipulated her
into believing that
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she was in the wrong, not him.
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And she felt sorry for him.
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But I didn't trust him.
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I thought Brandon
was gaslighting her.
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- Rachel and I had been
really close friends
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for about 11 years.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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Rachel was just getting back
into dating after her divorce.
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And we were online dating
at the same time,
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and I actually came across
Brandon's profile, I think,
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before she did,
and I swiped left on him.
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I thought he looked
like a serial killer.
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There were just
a lot of things that
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he was doing with Rachel that
was making me very cautious.
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He said that he had
a degree in psychology.
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I never saw him do
any type of psychology work.
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Never saw him have a job.
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- He said that his ex-wife was
pretty much out of the picture,
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and he spent a lot of time
with his daughter.
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- To me, that was a red flag,
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because why is he living
in California
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with no child that I ever saw.
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- In the beginning,
Brandon only told
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Rachel he had one ex-wife.
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He did not tell her
that he had two ex-wives.
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- And then Amber and Athena
reached out to Rachel.
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- No one ever saw this coming,
but here we are.
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- My name is Athena.
- And I'm Amber.
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And we are
"Ex-Wives Undercover."
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- We found out Brandon
was in California now
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and there was a woman named
Rachel being preyed upon.
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We knew that
we needed to get her
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up to date on the real Brandon.
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We were scared
of what he might do.
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We were able
to get a phone number,
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and we crafted a well
thought-out text message.
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- Hi, Rachel.
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We were given your
information recently,
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and we wanted
to reach out to you
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and tell you the truth
about the guy you are dating.
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He is not the person
you think he is.
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But we knew that
she might not believe
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everything that we were saying.
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- She did open the door
a little bit with us.
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And I got on the phone
with her and definitely
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let her know that I understand
where she's coming from.
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I was in her shoes.
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- With Athena and Amber
reaching out,
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Rachel confronted Brandon,
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and Brandon had
an entire sob story.
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- He was basically telling her
he had done some things
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that he wasn't proud of,
like cheating,
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so they had done this podcast
as kind of their revenge.
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- He was adding yet another
woman to his harem of chicks.
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- He told Rachel his ex-wives
are not very stable.
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- He's a fucking liar.
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- And out to get him.
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- I think we got a bad one.
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- And did not want him
to be happy.
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- Oh, man, that is
embarrassing shit.
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- Rachel had this dilemma
of who do I trust.
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Do I trust Brandon,
or do I trust these
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two women that I don't know?
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- And when
you're with someone,
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you wanna take their side.
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You wanna believe them,
you know.
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She was a very loyal person.
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That's one of her
great qualities.
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- He had a story
for everything.
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He told her that
he is a new person.
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He is doing all the things
necessary for him to heal.
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- Rachel was
a very kind person.
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If she felt that somebody
was sorry and repentive
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over the situation,
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she would give you
another shot.
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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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- By 2022,
I didn't know if
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Rachel and Brandon were
together at this point,
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but he is still in my life.
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[police siren wailing]
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After the crazy experiences
with Brandon,
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with my daughter Sydney,
and the police chase with him,
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I remember just going
to bed completely exhausted.
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♪ ♪
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One night I wake up
to a text message.
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And it says,
"Your time is coming, bitch."
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Receiving the threat
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and seeing
a phone number that,
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you know, I didn't recognize,
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it completely
threw me off-guard.
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I just felt very panicked.
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As soon as I get that text,
I'm locking my doors.
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There's nothing that would
make me believe that
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Brandon wasn't just, like,
standing outside in my backyard
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or my front yard just waiting,
waiting for me.
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- I got a phone call
from Athena.
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We did not recognize
the phone number that
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texted that message,
but without a doubt,
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we knew it was
Brandon Johnson.
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- I want to go
to the police about this,
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but what did we have?
An anonymous threat?
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- We knew that police would
not be able to do anything
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unless we had 100% proof
that we could connect Brandon
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with that phone number.
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It was gonna
be very difficult,
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but Athena came up with the
idea of, maybe Rachel knows.
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Maybe he had used this number
speaking with Rachel.
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We were hoping
she would respond,
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but we really didn't know.
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- My text to Rachel
was just simply,
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"Does this phone number
look familiar to you?"
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To my surprise, she said yeah.
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But from my prior
experience, I knew that
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I had to get
solid evidence of this.
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Then I just asked if
she could take a screenshot
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and she didn't hesitate.
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As soon as I got that
screenshot from Rachel,
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my thought was, "I got you."
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I knew that death threat
was going
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against Brandon's probation,
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and I am fully aware
that Brandon has
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multiple charges
stacked against him.
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The resisting arrest,
the police car chase
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with my daughter
in the vehicle,
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the violation
of the no-contact orders.
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- And he also had
13 felony counts pending
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because he was embezzling
money from an employer,
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and this is another check
on his list of offenses.
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- I'm just hoping that this
takes us over to the next step.
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Maybe jail time.
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- I just thought,
why isn't he being
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arrested for all this stuff?
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That's the million
dollar question.
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We had talked about it
on our podcast,
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but the problem was that
now he's in California
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and the jurisdiction
don't match.
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So all the things that were
going on in Washington,
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you know, no one's
gonna be driving down
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to California to arrest him.
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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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- Brandon's behavior started
becoming more possessive,
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and Rachel believed he was
reading her text messages.
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He was following her.
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His behavior was erratic.
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- I didn't want Rachel
to be with Brandon,
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and I tried to help her
get out many times,
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but I could understand
why it was so,
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so hard for her to get out.
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I'm a forensic nurse examiner
for rape and strangulation,
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sexual assaults, and I have
a lot of experience
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of coercive control and abuse.
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The abusers pick victims
that are usually
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very kind-hearted,
that they know
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are gonna have
a hard time leaving.
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They twist things around
to control
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and manipulate their victims.
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They have gaslit them.
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They have confused them.
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They'll often do things
like threaten suicide.
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Brandon did this as well.
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They do many, many things
where it is so hard
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for the victim to get out.
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I could see all of the signs
that Rachel was
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in this type of relationship.
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- Brandon knew Rachel's group
of friends did not like him.
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Brandon especially knew
I did not like him.
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- One night he approached me
and started talking to me
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about Nikki
and how controlling she was
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and how she was
basically ruining
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his and Rachel's relationship.
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- He told Lauren,
the only thing in the way
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between Rachel and me is Nikki,
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and he will do whatever
it takes to get Rachel.
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It was a huge turning point
for all of us.
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We all got together
and did tell her
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that we did not think
he was good for her.
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- And he lied about it all.
- Oh, my God.
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- And she realized that
the podcasts were true.
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- Girl, don't do it.
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Don't be me. Don't be me.
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- And everything she was told
was one lie
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after another lie
after another lie.
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And so she was done
with the relationship.
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- And that's when Brandon
started to really get angry,
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and things started
to escalate.
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- I knew that if
Brandon was gonna hold
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anybody responsible,
it was gonna be me.
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[soft music]
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♪ ♪
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By the beginning of 2022,
we are so proud of Rachel
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for breaking it off
with Brandon.
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No Brandon, no drama.
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And we were able
to live our lives
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and not look over our backs.
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[ominous music]
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But one day, I noticed that
the side of my car was keyed.
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- Her car wasn't parked
at home or at her job,
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so I just went, oh, well,
what did you do?
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Did you cut somebody off?
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I felt that it was
a random act of vandalism.
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- Not long after that,
my tire was slashed.
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And a couple days later,
I walk out from work again
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and the other side of my car
is keyed, every panel.
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And that's when
I got really scared.
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And that's when I knew
someone was targeting me.
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- Nikki and I and Rachel
all talk about it,
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and the only conclusion
that we come to is Brandon.
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- We can't prove that.
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But Rachel did reach out and
text message Amber and Athena.
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♪ ♪
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- Rachel asked if
this was something
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Brandon could have done,
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and immediately
our response was yes.
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In our opinion, this had
Brandon written all over it.
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♪ ♪
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- We knew from our own
experiences, as well as
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other women that dated
Brandon, that the minute
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they tried to break free
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that this type of thing
would happen.
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And if he's
vandalizing this car,
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that could mean
there was a tracker on it.
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So we were very adamant
that you need to get
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your car checked right now.
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- I checked the fuel filler
and under the hood.
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Then I got underneath
the vehicle
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and just worked my way around.
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And was about to give up
when I reached up
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and found a magnetic device
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about the size
of a hockey puck.
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Oh, my gosh, there's a GPS
tracker on my wife's car.
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It was scary, you know,
somebody--
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somebody's tracking us.
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Somebody is watching us.
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- After I text Rachel and
told her about the tracker,
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about 20 minutes later,
I get a picture
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of the exact same tracker
on her son's car.
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- As soon as I hear that, I--
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I couldn't be more serious.
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I told her, you need to go
to the police right away.
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- We knew that if Brandon
was putting a tracker
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on Nikki's car,
that he was really escalating
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and becoming
more and more aggressive.
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- Brandon wants to be
your one and only.
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- The woman had given us
a video of an incident where
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a man appeared
to crouch behind a car
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parked in front of her house.
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- The brake lines were
cut on that vehicle.
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- We certainly couldn't
prove that it was Brandon,
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but we were
incredibly suspicious.
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- I was worried about
Brandon was capable
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of doing far worse to Nikki,
to Rachel.
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- We didn't know
where he was gonna hit,
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how he was gonna hit,
when he was gonna hit.
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But it was just
a matter of time.
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And I think he just
took it beyond anything
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that was even imaginable.
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[eerie music]
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- After we found the tracker,
Amber and Athena said
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Brandon's actions is
a part of his playbook.
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00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:08,495
Brandon has been known
to do whatever he could do
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00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:13,152
to isolate the girl that he
is dating from her best friend.
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I called the police,
but we were told that
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because we couldn't prove
that it was Brandon
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00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:22,639
that it would be difficult
to qualify as stalking.
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And all they could do
was take a police report.
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- I wasn't really surprised
because these types of abusers
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get very clever
and know exactly
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what they can and cannot
get away with.
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- I felt fearful for myself
and the safety of my family.
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- We're pretty vulnerable.
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It's like, what--what is he
willing to do at this point?
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You know, kind of looking
over your shoulder.
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[gunshot]
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We purchased
a couple of handguns.
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We took a firearms class.
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And we were--we were gonna be
ready if he showed up.
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[tense music]
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- Brandon wouldn't go away.
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He would go wherever
Rachel went.
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He would stalk her.
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He followed her at work,
yoga studio.
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He was everywhere.
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She felt fearful.
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- Things were getting
very creepy.
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00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:46,593
Brandon would send Rachel
text messages
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quoting exact sentences
that we said in private.
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♪ ♪
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We--we were all
really confused.
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We didn't know where the
information was coming from.
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00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,219
- Rachel had texted me.
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I just kept saying, he's got to
have your phone, like, bugged.
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00:21:08,223 --> 00:21:10,181
He probably has spyware.
That's gotta be what it is.
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00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:17,493
Rachel kept reassuring me
that she absolutely
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had her phone checked,
her computer checked,
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00:21:20,061 --> 00:21:22,324
and that they found nothing.
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I'm kind of dumbfounded
and absolutely clueless
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00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:31,464
as to how he is
finding out all of this.
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00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:37,165
- I was scared for Rachel.
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00:21:37,252 --> 00:21:40,299
We don't know where
his eyes and ears are.
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It's like a predator
going after his prey.
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00:21:44,825 --> 00:21:51,614
♪ ♪
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- Because of
Brandon's behavior,
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00:21:56,010 --> 00:22:00,493
Rachel planned
a Valentine's Day girl weekend,
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00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:04,975
and she wanted
a fun good time.
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00:22:05,062 --> 00:22:08,501
Unfortunately, I was too scared
to go, so I stayed home.
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00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:13,810
- Our friend Erin
had come to visit,
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00:22:13,897 --> 00:22:17,684
and we were having
a lot of fun together.
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00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:21,992
But then Brandon started
texting Rachel things
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00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:24,473
that we were saying,
like almost in that moment,
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00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:26,475
as in to like respond to it.
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00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:29,478
[eerie music]
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♪ ♪
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He would contact her on,
like, many phones,
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00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:38,269
so it's not like
you could block him.
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00:22:40,315 --> 00:22:42,622
We were all kind of
getting freaked out.
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00:22:42,709 --> 00:22:45,364
I'm like, we need
to check the house
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00:22:45,494 --> 00:22:47,801
because he has a bug in here.
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00:22:47,888 --> 00:22:50,586
So we start, like,
looking around.
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00:22:52,893 --> 00:22:55,069
We checked everywhere.
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00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:02,772
And then Rachel finds
this box kind of thing...
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Tied to under the bed
with her hair ties.
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00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:13,174
And it ended up being the
camera and listening device.
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00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:18,309
♪ ♪
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It turns out he had been
listening under her bed
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00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:22,879
for God knows how long.
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00:23:24,272 --> 00:23:25,926
It's creepy.
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00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:30,321
And it's just, like,
all kinds of wrong.
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00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:35,326
- Rachel called me and it all
came together at that moment.
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00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:39,200
A lot of our conversations
took place in her bedroom.
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00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:43,509
It must have been transmitting
to his phone directly.
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00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:46,686
We felt violated.
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00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:49,384
Rachel reported it
to the police.
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00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:53,214
They were concerned,
but the police did say
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00:23:53,344 --> 00:23:54,824
that it would be
difficult to prove that
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it was Brandon who put it in.
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00:23:58,175 --> 00:24:02,092
I know that several people
actually touched the camera,
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00:24:02,179 --> 00:24:06,619
and so it would be difficult
to dust it for fingerprints.
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00:24:06,749 --> 00:24:11,145
They took a report,
but we felt defeated.
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00:24:11,232 --> 00:24:13,060
- We started to wonder,
like, how did he
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00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:16,150
put the camera under the bed?
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00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:18,065
- My guess is,
he broke in through a window
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00:24:18,195 --> 00:24:22,809
and planted it
when she wasn't there.
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00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:27,466
And that made us
very scared for her safety.
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00:24:27,596 --> 00:24:29,598
One of us mentioned that
she should reach out
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00:24:29,685 --> 00:24:32,209
to Amber and Athena
and get their advice
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00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:33,602
because they've already
lived through this.
447
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:38,781
- I thought, wow,
camera under her bed.
448
00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:41,828
Oh, shit.
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00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:44,744
- Hearing that he was hearing
her private conversations,
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00:24:44,831 --> 00:24:47,398
we immediately thought,
oh great, like,
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00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,358
he's gonna know
what we've been telling her.
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00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:54,057
- We spoke on the phone while
she was seated on her bed,
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00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:58,888
and now we were all at risk
for Brandon's retaliation.
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♪ ♪
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00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:05,242
- We said, you need
to catch him red-handed.
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00:25:05,329 --> 00:25:09,072
So the only way we knew to
make sure that she had proof
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00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:13,250
was installing cameras both
inside and outside her home.
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♪ ♪
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- At that point, it's not
if Brandon will do something,
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00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:31,181
it's when and what
will Brandon do today.
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00:25:43,106 --> 00:25:44,934
- She had placed
cameras in there,
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00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:46,370
and he was sneaking
around her house at night.
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00:25:46,457 --> 00:25:48,024
Looking through her windows.
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00:25:52,376 --> 00:25:57,512
And one night, she called me
and told me that he had somehow
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00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:02,256
broken into her place again
and turned all the cameras
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00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:03,910
in her bedroom off.
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00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:12,788
- Rachel did reach out
to law enforcement.
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00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:17,401
They took a report, but we
had no idea where he was at.
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00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:18,794
I panicked.
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00:26:18,881 --> 00:26:20,970
I told Rachel,
whatever it takes,
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you need to get that camera
back working ASAP.
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Then we made a pact that we
would check in with each other
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00:26:28,761 --> 00:26:30,066
several times
throughout the day,
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00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:32,634
just to make sure
we were safe.
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00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:36,246
- I mean, he was gonna stop
at nothing.
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00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:38,901
[eerie music]
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00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:45,734
♪ ♪
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00:26:45,865 --> 00:26:48,694
- That following Tuesday,
she worked
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a very, very long shift.
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00:26:51,914 --> 00:26:54,569
It was dark. It was nighttime.
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00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,920
I called her several times
and she wasn't picking up,
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00:26:58,007 --> 00:26:59,879
and I was terrified.
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00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:01,184
[line trills]
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00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:04,361
My heart rate's
probably at 150.
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00:27:04,448 --> 00:27:08,148
I am debating about
calling the cops.
486
00:27:08,191 --> 00:27:11,151
And she finally
answers the phone,
487
00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:13,414
and I can hear panic
in her voice.
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00:27:13,501 --> 00:27:19,768
♪ ♪
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00:27:19,855 --> 00:27:23,337
Rachel told me Brandon
came out of nowhere
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00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:24,904
wearing a black sweatshirt
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00:27:24,991 --> 00:27:28,037
with zip ties
around his wrist.
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00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:31,214
He tried to pull her
in the van that he was driving.
493
00:27:31,301 --> 00:27:34,609
[line trilling]
494
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,959
And at that point,
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00:27:37,046 --> 00:27:39,222
I was calling
over and over and over,
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00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,442
and Brandon did hear
her phone ringing
497
00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:44,140
and let go of her wrists
and allowed her
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00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,925
to escape to her car.
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00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:53,454
- We advised Rachel to go
get a restraining order ASAP.
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00:27:53,497 --> 00:27:55,499
This is an
incredibly scary time
501
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:56,805
because the minute he knows
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00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,372
that you're going
to that extreme,
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00:27:58,459 --> 00:27:59,895
he will flip on you.
504
00:28:02,593 --> 00:28:06,162
- However, in California, in
order for a restraining order
505
00:28:06,249 --> 00:28:09,688
to be valid, not only do
you need all the evidence,
506
00:28:09,731 --> 00:28:11,559
but you actually have to serve
507
00:28:11,646 --> 00:28:13,300
the restraining order
to the individual.
508
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:20,002
- When we didn't want him
around, he was everywhere.
509
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,396
And then when Rachel
got a restraining order
510
00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:25,965
and tried to get him
to serve him, he was gone.
511
00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:28,924
[suspenseful music]
512
00:28:29,011 --> 00:28:31,231
♪ ♪
513
00:28:31,318 --> 00:28:34,538
- On March 1st,
Rachel told everybody
514
00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:36,410
she wanted to stay at home
515
00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:38,891
because she had a hot date
with her laundry.
516
00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:46,855
And then Brandon called Rachel
and she answered.
517
00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,469
- Since Rachel wasn't
able to find him,
518
00:28:52,513 --> 00:28:54,863
she basically sat
on FaceTime with him
519
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:57,170
while she was doing laundry
so that she could
520
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,956
try and find out where he was
so that she could serve him.
521
00:29:01,087 --> 00:29:02,741
- By the end of the call,
you know,
522
00:29:02,871 --> 00:29:04,394
he's trying to flirt with me.
523
00:29:04,481 --> 00:29:06,309
Like, he's complimenting me
like, oh, you look
524
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,877
really cute in that tank top.
525
00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,099
You know,
I'm still talking to him,
526
00:29:13,229 --> 00:29:15,405
just trying to have some type
of information on
527
00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:17,843
where he's staying in order
to try to get him served,
528
00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:20,323
but he's like,
let me come see you.
529
00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:22,325
It's like, no,
we're not doing this.
530
00:29:22,456 --> 00:29:25,067
This is not a relationship
anymore by any means.
531
00:29:25,154 --> 00:29:30,072
And so I hung up the phone
and then I just went to sleep.
532
00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:35,512
- The next morning,
Rachel called me
533
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:39,603
and it was a phone call
I will never, ever forget.
534
00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:42,606
[eerie music]
535
00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,304
♪ ♪
536
00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:47,481
[knocking]
537
00:29:56,055 --> 00:30:00,668
That night, she was asleep.
538
00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:03,758
Brandon broke into her house.
539
00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:10,156
Next thing she knew is,
Brandon was in her room.
540
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,339
- And he's having sex with her.
541
00:30:19,426 --> 00:30:22,037
- And she was telling him no
and he did not listen.
542
00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:26,563
- I mean, he's a huge guy too.
543
00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:29,001
I mean, he's like,
I don't know, 6'2".
544
00:30:29,131 --> 00:30:31,003
He's built.
545
00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:34,397
You know, it was heartbreaking
to hear that
546
00:30:34,528 --> 00:30:36,356
from your best friend.
547
00:30:36,443 --> 00:30:39,098
[somber music]
548
00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,187
♪ ♪
549
00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:45,539
- It was very shocking
that after that night,
550
00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:50,457
Brandon acted like he did not
think he did anything wrong.
551
00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:54,200
But he did.
He went in there unannounced.
552
00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:57,812
She told him no,
and she was incredibly scared.
553
00:30:59,553 --> 00:31:04,427
I truly think Brandon
had everything mapped out.
554
00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:08,562
But the camera that was
in Rachel's room
555
00:31:08,649 --> 00:31:10,477
that captured the assault,
556
00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:13,610
Brandon thought he disabled,
and he did not.
557
00:31:16,048 --> 00:31:20,617
- I tried to like, talk to her
and asked if she wanted
558
00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:23,446
to contact law enforcement.
559
00:31:23,577 --> 00:31:25,318
She didn't want to at the time.
560
00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:29,191
I think there's
a lot of shame, you know,
561
00:31:29,278 --> 00:31:32,586
with sexual assault victims
of even going forward.
562
00:31:32,673 --> 00:31:34,588
A lot of people feel
like it's their fault.
563
00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:36,677
It was just really sad.
564
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,379
- The next day, Rachel had
to go to the police station
565
00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:46,861
for all the documentation
for the restraining order,
566
00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:50,821
and she started receiving
text messages from Brandon.
567
00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:54,173
He was worried.
568
00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:58,394
And once she receives
all of these text messages,
569
00:31:58,481 --> 00:32:02,703
it's very apparent that
he was still tracking her.
570
00:32:02,833 --> 00:32:05,445
[suspenseful music]
571
00:32:05,575 --> 00:32:08,361
♪ ♪
572
00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:13,627
I got pissed, and so I
told Rachel, you know what?
573
00:32:13,714 --> 00:32:15,107
This is how
we're gonna get him.
574
00:32:15,194 --> 00:32:17,283
You tell him,
you text message him
575
00:32:17,413 --> 00:32:19,633
that he needs to come
in person to take
576
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,723
that tracker off your car,
and he needs to meet you now.
577
00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:27,467
♪ ♪
578
00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:30,861
So once Brandon
agreed to meet Rachel,
579
00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:34,126
she got a friend to serve him
the restraining order.
580
00:32:37,477 --> 00:32:39,392
I was relieved
that he was served,
581
00:32:39,479 --> 00:32:42,525
but I knew that
it would make him more mad.
582
00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:52,274
On March 11th, Rachel and I
had to go to court
583
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:54,885
to get that
no-contact order ratified,
584
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:57,540
and we were expecting
Brandon to show up.
585
00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,673
Brandon was not there.
586
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,979
He was on a Zoom call,
587
00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:02,981
and also,
Brandon's camera was off,
588
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:06,288
so we didn't know if he was
in Washington or California.
589
00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:11,250
And then he requested
for the court date
590
00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:16,168
to be changed to a later date
so he could obtain a lawyer.
591
00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:18,518
And that is what happened.
592
00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,914
But he knew that
there was no going back.
593
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:27,222
And since he knew that,
what now?
594
00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,491
- It's March 11th,
I'm downstairs,
595
00:33:35,578 --> 00:33:37,841
talking to Amber on the phone.
596
00:33:37,972 --> 00:33:40,583
As we're talking,
I receive a text message
597
00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:43,760
from a close friend
of Brandon's.
598
00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:45,762
- Brandon had texted him.
599
00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:48,461
This is it. I'm gonna end it.
600
00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:50,245
Bitches pushed me too far.
601
00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:52,987
Who were the bitches?
602
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,337
Me? Athena? Rachel?
603
00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:57,078
All of us?
604
00:33:57,165 --> 00:34:01,300
[tense music]
605
00:34:01,387 --> 00:34:04,651
And then I get a video,
and it shows him driving
606
00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:06,653
in a truck or some rented car,
607
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:10,657
and he's got what appears
to be a gun in his seat.
608
00:34:12,614 --> 00:34:14,181
- That was the scary part.
609
00:34:14,268 --> 00:34:16,706
I've never seen him
with a gun.
610
00:34:18,534 --> 00:34:22,103
He is not legally allowed
to carry a gun.
611
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:26,585
The fact that he would
risk doing that in a car
612
00:34:26,672 --> 00:34:29,589
and sending a video means that
the man is cracked.
613
00:34:31,851 --> 00:34:37,118
- He clearly had serious
intentions with that gun.
614
00:34:37,248 --> 00:34:41,034
Something bad
is about to go down.
615
00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:45,387
♪ ♪
616
00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:48,998
- After everything
going on with Brandon,
617
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:51,567
Rachel and I decided
to go have a drink.
618
00:34:51,654 --> 00:34:54,614
Randomly, an old friend,
Austin,
619
00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:57,704
reached out to her for the
first time in quite some time.
620
00:34:57,791 --> 00:35:01,403
- I didn't actually know she
was going to court that morning
621
00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:05,190
for the restraining order,
so I called Rachel that day
622
00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:08,149
asking her, are you
available later that night?
623
00:35:08,236 --> 00:35:12,719
- Austin is a very mellow,
chill kind of guy.
624
00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:14,199
He's the complete opposite
of Brandon,
625
00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:17,115
and I thought it was perfect.
626
00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:18,899
- She had a stressful day,
so I think
627
00:35:19,029 --> 00:35:22,511
it was relieving for her that
she wanted company to come over
628
00:35:22,598 --> 00:35:24,296
and she was happy.
629
00:35:24,383 --> 00:35:26,602
- We went back
to Rachel's house.
630
00:35:26,689 --> 00:35:30,171
I think Austin showed up
about 30 minutes after I left.
631
00:35:30,302 --> 00:35:34,915
I had no idea that that
could have been the last time
632
00:35:35,002 --> 00:35:36,830
I ever saw my best friend.
633
00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:47,449
[soft music]
634
00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:53,542
♪ ♪
635
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,674
- Okay.
636
00:35:54,717 --> 00:35:55,979
- Are you sure you're ready
for this?
637
00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:57,851
- Yeah.
638
00:35:57,938 --> 00:35:58,939
Yeah, let's try.
639
00:35:59,026 --> 00:36:00,549
Okay.
640
00:36:00,636 --> 00:36:02,377
- Okay.
641
00:36:02,508 --> 00:36:04,510
- You never think that
something like this
642
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,555
is gonna happen to you.
643
00:36:06,642 --> 00:36:09,950
And you do, you think, this is
just the stuff I see on TV.
644
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,649
And...[chuckles] I was wrong.
645
00:36:13,736 --> 00:36:17,523
[eerie music]
646
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:19,438
That night, Austin and I
were just over at my house,
647
00:36:19,525 --> 00:36:22,571
and it felt like a great way
to just forget
648
00:36:22,702 --> 00:36:24,138
about everything
that was happening.
649
00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:28,273
- We're in her room.
650
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,535
She wanted somebody
that she knew
651
00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:31,014
she could trust to be around.
652
00:36:33,843 --> 00:36:36,106
- Austin and I are just
having casual conversation,
653
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:41,111
and then all of a sudden,
I noticed this light
654
00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:43,070
appears on his forehead.
655
00:36:43,157 --> 00:36:45,594
- And then all I see
is a big light
656
00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:47,205
just walking through the door.
657
00:36:49,381 --> 00:36:51,557
- Austin's expression
abruptly changed.
658
00:36:54,429 --> 00:36:56,039
I knew when I was
about to turn around
659
00:36:56,126 --> 00:36:58,346
that it wasn't something good.
660
00:37:00,522 --> 00:37:03,482
- I knew who it was.
661
00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:06,572
Brandon had appeared
out of nowhere,
662
00:37:06,659 --> 00:37:08,748
and it looked like
a gun in his hand.
663
00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,318
- He had a knife in his hand.
664
00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,581
I was really scared.
665
00:37:15,668 --> 00:37:20,890
- There was this just negative
dark energy coming from him.
666
00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:24,633
- There was no exit.
667
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,853
Rachel was sitting next to me.
668
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:29,899
I felt trapped.
669
00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:34,077
- My mind attempted to protect
me, to tell me to stay calm.
670
00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:36,123
And there isn't really
a man in here with a gun
671
00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:37,820
pointing at you
who's here to attack you.
672
00:37:37,907 --> 00:37:42,390
So my instinct was
to attempt to talk to him,
673
00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:44,610
to bring him out of it
in a way.
674
00:37:44,653 --> 00:37:47,134
What are you doing here?
675
00:37:47,221 --> 00:37:49,310
Give me that.
- No.
676
00:37:49,397 --> 00:37:50,311
- But there was no
getting through.
677
00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:52,879
- You're looking
at her right now?
678
00:37:52,966 --> 00:37:54,228
- Yeah.
- Brandon!
679
00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:55,751
- So you're looking at her now?
680
00:37:55,838 --> 00:37:59,538
- He put me into a headlock.
681
00:37:59,668 --> 00:38:01,888
It became clear that as
I attempted to struggle,
682
00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:05,239
he was not gonna be
letting me go.
683
00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:06,545
- You're looking
at her right now?
684
00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:08,242
- Yes.
685
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:09,765
- This man has a strength
that I don't possess.
686
00:38:09,852 --> 00:38:11,898
And he pinned me down
with his forearm.
687
00:38:11,985 --> 00:38:13,116
- You know who I am?
688
00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:15,031
- [grunts]
[thud]
689
00:38:15,118 --> 00:38:17,556
- And then he hit me
straight on the forehead.
690
00:38:17,643 --> 00:38:20,298
And the gun or the knife
split my forehead open.
691
00:38:20,385 --> 00:38:22,778
You just cut my head
with a knife.
692
00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:26,608
It was a pretty good amount of
blood dripping down my face.
693
00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:28,523
- I'm gonna fucking
shoot you right now.
694
00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,873
- And then was just screaming
and yelling, you know,
695
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,745
I'm gonna blow your head off.
I'm gonna kill you both.
696
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,138
- Do it and I'll shoot you,
little fuckers.
697
00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:37,053
- Are you serious right now?
698
00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:38,881
Throwing her against the wall.
699
00:38:38,968 --> 00:38:40,666
That's what made me freak out.
700
00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:42,537
- I'm fucking shoot
your fucking head off.
701
00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:44,278
- I jumped up off the bed.
702
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,106
There was no thinking.
There was no thought.
703
00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:47,890
It was just go.
704
00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:50,545
[Rachel yelling]
705
00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:51,851
- Fuck out of my way, man.
706
00:38:51,938 --> 00:38:53,940
[both grunting]
707
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:55,768
- He had that gun in his hand.
708
00:38:55,855 --> 00:38:58,814
I had grabbed him,
and he had shot it off
709
00:38:58,901 --> 00:39:00,555
and it had missed me.
710
00:39:00,642 --> 00:39:02,862
But after I heard
that first initial pop,
711
00:39:02,949 --> 00:39:05,647
that's when I figured out
that, oh, this isn't a gun.
712
00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,258
Seeing the cords coming
out of the tip of it,
713
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,696
I found out this is a Taser.
714
00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:12,959
But he still did have
that knife in his hand.
715
00:39:13,046 --> 00:39:15,440
Hey! Calm the fuck down!
716
00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:17,180
- They were wrestling
and fighting
717
00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:18,791
and things were moving fast.
718
00:39:18,878 --> 00:39:20,923
Brandon! Stop it.
719
00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:23,665
[overlapping yelling]
720
00:39:23,752 --> 00:39:26,059
- I had to seize
whatever moment I could
721
00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:27,713
to grab my phone
and call the police.
722
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,845
- Calm the fuck down!
723
00:39:29,932 --> 00:39:32,370
- And then actually
holding my phone,
724
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:35,068
the fear and overwhelm was
really starting to come in.
725
00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,244
- Calm down now!
726
00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:38,637
Calm down!
727
00:39:38,724 --> 00:39:40,987
- And I just froze
and was like,
728
00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:42,728
what--what phone number
do I dial?
729
00:39:42,771 --> 00:39:43,946
Where's the phone button?
730
00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:45,295
It was just so overwhelming.
731
00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:47,820
- Calm now!
732
00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:49,169
You done?
733
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:50,431
He was a lot bigger than me,
734
00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:52,433
but I had trained
in jiu jitsu,
735
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,914
so finally I choked him
unconscious.
736
00:39:57,656 --> 00:40:00,441
- Finally, I was able
to pull myself back in
737
00:40:00,528 --> 00:40:04,184
to actually make
that phone call to the police.
738
00:40:04,271 --> 00:40:06,882
- Please, walk out.
739
00:40:07,013 --> 00:40:09,319
At that point, I started
taking him out of the house,
740
00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:10,756
and that's when
I heard the sirens.
741
00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:13,411
[sirens wailing]
742
00:40:13,498 --> 00:40:16,675
- Hey, Brandon. Come here.
743
00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:18,764
- The cops kind of swarmed in.
744
00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:20,940
- Stop fighting!
745
00:40:20,983 --> 00:40:23,508
- Don't fight me.
Stop! You're gonna get tased.
746
00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:25,335
You're gonna get tased!
747
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,555
- Get down on the ground now!
748
00:40:27,642 --> 00:40:29,296
Get on the ground!
- Okay, okay.
749
00:40:29,383 --> 00:40:32,168
- And it looked like
they started to subdue him,
750
00:40:32,212 --> 00:40:35,345
putting one handcuff
around his wrist.
751
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:36,782
- Get on--
- Hey, Brandon.
752
00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:38,131
Come here.
753
00:40:38,218 --> 00:40:39,437
- And he took off
down the street.
754
00:40:39,524 --> 00:40:41,351
[indistinct radio chatter]
755
00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,875
- Pop that fence.
756
00:40:42,962 --> 00:40:45,791
24-40. Go back to his car.
757
00:40:45,921 --> 00:40:48,794
He's working his way
back towards that.
758
00:40:48,924 --> 00:40:50,404
He's right there to your right.
759
00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:52,624
- He was just in here.
- Hands up.
760
00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:55,975
- Brandon! Come out!
761
00:40:56,018 --> 00:40:57,498
- Get down on the ground now!
762
00:40:57,585 --> 00:40:59,282
Get down on the ground now!
763
00:40:59,369 --> 00:41:01,807
- Get down on the ground,
Brandon!
764
00:41:01,937 --> 00:41:04,026
- You're gonna get tased.
Taser.
765
00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:06,855
- Oh, God damn, stop.
766
00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,074
Oh, fuck.
767
00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:09,554
- Here, I got him.
768
00:41:09,641 --> 00:41:11,077
Yeah, we're good.
769
00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:13,035
[indistinct radio chatter]
770
00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:14,080
- Taser, three times?
771
00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:15,385
- Five.
772
00:41:15,429 --> 00:41:17,083
[sirens wailing]
773
00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:19,868
- Finally, when they arrested
him, took him to jail,
774
00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:22,915
we just went,
what the heck just happened?
775
00:41:23,002 --> 00:41:26,005
[tense music]
776
00:41:26,135 --> 00:41:27,963
♪ ♪
777
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,096
- Once Brandon was arrested,
778
00:41:30,226 --> 00:41:32,402
the police
collected the evidence.
779
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,667
And I noticed that on
the inside of the sweatshirt,
780
00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:37,930
there's strips of duct tape.
781
00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:39,627
Why?
782
00:41:39,714 --> 00:41:40,585
Why would there be
strips of duct tape
783
00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:42,500
on the inside of the sweater?
784
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:46,939
And then I started to just
look at the officers' faces,
785
00:41:46,982 --> 00:41:49,115
watching them pull things
out of the truck.
786
00:41:49,202 --> 00:41:55,556
I remember watching one of
the deputies pull a wig out.
787
00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:03,651
There was a huge shift
where everyone was quiet.
788
00:42:03,738 --> 00:42:07,699
But I remember looking
at that wig and thinking,
789
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:12,660
why does he
have a wig of long hair
790
00:42:12,747 --> 00:42:17,056
that happens to be the
opposite color of my hair?
791
00:42:17,186 --> 00:42:21,669
♪ ♪
792
00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:23,932
- When the police
talked to Brandon,
793
00:42:24,019 --> 00:42:26,456
I knew that he was a person
that was gonna try to
794
00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:29,372
change the story, to flip the
script, to try to get out
795
00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:30,678
of anything he could.
796
00:42:33,246 --> 00:42:35,422
- This is kind of
your one time to give us
797
00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:36,249
your side of the story.
798
00:42:36,336 --> 00:42:39,818
This is your time to--
799
00:42:39,905 --> 00:42:41,863
to tell us how
everything makes sense.
800
00:42:41,950 --> 00:42:45,954
- I couldn't really
tell you what story
801
00:42:46,041 --> 00:42:49,175
he would come up with,
but just that I could
802
00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,830
100% tell you that
he would not tell the truth.
803
00:43:09,761 --> 00:43:11,371
- Rachel and Brandon
were together
804
00:43:11,458 --> 00:43:13,112
for four or five months.
805
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,723
I mean, Rachel and I
didn't have any communication
806
00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:17,377
out of respect
for that relationship.
807
00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:22,512
- So she asked you to place
this device on her son's car?
808
00:43:39,965 --> 00:43:43,577
- I would never ask Brandon to
put a tracker on my son's car.
809
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:54,806
[tense music]
810
00:43:54,936 --> 00:44:01,595
♪ ♪
811
00:44:01,682 --> 00:44:03,162
Did she ask you to
put the camera there?
812
00:44:15,653 --> 00:44:17,567
- It felt very violating.
813
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:19,700
Absolutely disgusting.
814
00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:23,356
It's violating in every way.
815
00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,158
- The DA told me
that Brandon had
816
00:44:43,289 --> 00:44:46,901
a completely different story
of what happened that night.
817
00:44:46,988 --> 00:44:50,426
But what they didn't know is
that this was all on videotape.
818
00:44:50,557 --> 00:44:55,693
♪ ♪
819
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:58,347
- I only remembered
the next morning
820
00:44:58,434 --> 00:45:01,873
that I had that camera
on my dresser.
821
00:45:01,916 --> 00:45:05,920
And when I informed
the detective
822
00:45:06,007 --> 00:45:08,096
that I had a recording
of everything that happened,
823
00:45:08,227 --> 00:45:11,752
he was surprised
and very much elated
824
00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:15,321
that they had
everything they needed.
825
00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:17,889
I knew that Amber and Athena
were concerned,
826
00:45:17,976 --> 00:45:20,021
so I reached out
to let them know
827
00:45:20,108 --> 00:45:22,981
that the event had actually
been caught on camera.
828
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:29,204
- When we learned there was a
camera that caught the attack
829
00:45:29,291 --> 00:45:33,339
and everything, it was just,
like, jumping up and down.
830
00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:35,384
Like, we got him, we got him.
831
00:45:35,471 --> 00:45:39,214
And I cannot wait to see them
play that video for him.
832
00:45:39,258 --> 00:45:42,087
I cannot wait.
833
00:45:42,174 --> 00:45:43,653
- Would it surprise you
if Rachael had a camera
834
00:45:43,697 --> 00:45:45,090
set up in her bedroom?
835
00:45:47,396 --> 00:45:49,007
Because she does.
836
00:45:49,094 --> 00:45:52,314
- Yeah, she has a camera
in there that captured
837
00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:53,881
Friday night's incident.
838
00:45:56,971 --> 00:45:58,190
- And it paints
a different picture
839
00:45:58,277 --> 00:45:59,539
than what you're telling us.
840
00:45:59,669 --> 00:46:00,496
- I'm gonna go grab a file
real quick.
841
00:46:00,583 --> 00:46:01,628
- Sure.
842
00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:07,939
- He was clearly surprised
it was a working camera
843
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:11,899
because he had
made an attempt to disable it.
844
00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:15,903
- There we go.
845
00:46:31,527 --> 00:46:34,269
- The beauty of the video
is that it shows that
846
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,619
he clearly puts me in
a headlock and pins me down.
847
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,970
Yeah, I mean,
does that several times.
848
00:46:45,672 --> 00:46:47,108
- What are you doing in--
849
00:46:47,195 --> 00:46:48,240
- I'll fucking shoot you.
I'll shoot you.
850
00:46:48,327 --> 00:46:49,589
Shut the fuck up!
851
00:46:54,594 --> 00:46:58,119
- I heard when Brandon
was shown the video,
852
00:46:58,206 --> 00:46:59,033
he can't handle it.
853
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:04,604
- Because there's no
getting out of this one.
854
00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:06,867
- Gotta do it.
Gotta shoot you.
855
00:47:06,954 --> 00:47:08,869
- No.
Are you serious right now?
856
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:32,327
- Shortly after, the DA
came over, sat me down,
857
00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:36,897
and showed me a picture
they had of all the things
858
00:47:36,984 --> 00:47:39,160
he had in his truck.
859
00:47:39,247 --> 00:47:44,035
In addition to this wig,
there were handcuffs,
860
00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:48,343
and there were zip ties,
and there was tape.
861
00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:51,042
And it was in that moment
that...
862
00:47:53,044 --> 00:47:54,349
I looked at the picture
863
00:47:54,436 --> 00:47:58,397
and it was like something
out of a scary movie.
864
00:48:22,725 --> 00:48:23,988
- It didn't make any sense.
865
00:48:24,031 --> 00:48:26,077
And I believe
the only intention
866
00:48:26,207 --> 00:48:27,643
behind having
something like that
867
00:48:27,774 --> 00:48:30,516
would be to disguise somebody.
868
00:48:30,603 --> 00:48:33,388
And then following up
with the thought of,
869
00:48:33,475 --> 00:48:37,871
why would he need
to disguise me?
870
00:49:10,512 --> 00:49:14,429
- It was conveyed
to me at that time,
871
00:49:14,516 --> 00:49:19,521
his plan was to kidnap
and rape me at minimum.
872
00:49:19,652 --> 00:49:23,743
But at what point do you
get kidnapped and set free?
873
00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:29,183
♪ ♪
874
00:49:33,448 --> 00:49:35,798
- It's Rachel, right?
- Correct, yes.
875
00:49:35,885 --> 00:49:37,496
- Are you okay?
- Sorry.
876
00:49:37,583 --> 00:49:39,933
I didn't believe it.
877
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:44,024
There's a person out there
that claimed to love me.
878
00:49:44,155 --> 00:49:47,854
I didn't believe that
they were also capable
879
00:49:47,941 --> 00:49:53,033
of also having the intention
to kidnap and rape me.
880
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,123
It was--it was gut-punching.
881
00:49:58,691 --> 00:50:01,302
[eerie music]
882
00:50:01,433 --> 00:50:03,565
♪ ♪
883
00:50:03,652 --> 00:50:09,397
But then when I discovered
that his plan was possibly
884
00:50:09,528 --> 00:50:12,270
even worse than I thought.
885
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:17,666
A short while after the
attack, I was in my garage,
886
00:50:17,753 --> 00:50:22,715
and I stumbled across
a shopping bag
887
00:50:22,802 --> 00:50:26,153
that contained ammonia
and bleach
888
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,286
that I knew
I had never purchased.
889
00:50:28,373 --> 00:50:31,941
Clearly, somebody else
had placed it there.
890
00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:34,205
Why?
891
00:50:34,335 --> 00:50:40,080
And then that got me thinking
that his plan was
892
00:50:40,167 --> 00:50:41,951
possibly even worse
than I thought.
893
00:50:44,824 --> 00:50:49,220
And having to have that
conversation with my son,
894
00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:54,616
and just see the fear
in his face
895
00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:57,532
and his voice about--
896
00:50:57,619 --> 00:50:59,491
so Mom, like,
really there was a chance
897
00:50:59,578 --> 00:51:01,493
that like, I wouldn't--
898
00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:03,060
there's a possible chance
that I was
899
00:51:03,147 --> 00:51:04,974
never gonna see you again?
900
00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:10,110
You know, so to have
to hear him say those words,
901
00:51:10,241 --> 00:51:13,809
that's when it was--
became really devastating.
902
00:51:16,247 --> 00:51:19,119
[tense music]
903
00:51:19,206 --> 00:51:21,904
♪ ♪
904
00:51:22,035 --> 00:51:26,170
- My main concern was,
he's extremely manipulative,
905
00:51:26,257 --> 00:51:29,608
he's well-spoken,
good looking, he's charming.
906
00:51:29,695 --> 00:51:32,132
I worried if he gets
in front of a jury,
907
00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:33,742
how is he gonna come across?
908
00:51:35,701 --> 00:51:39,748
- Even though I had the video,
my worry was
909
00:51:39,835 --> 00:51:41,272
what his side was gonna be.
910
00:51:41,402 --> 00:51:46,103
♪ ♪
911
00:51:46,146 --> 00:51:49,932
I remember Amber and Athena
offering me advice
912
00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:52,370
on how to proceed legally,
913
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:56,025
and to do it in a way
that creates a paper trail,
914
00:51:56,113 --> 00:51:59,507
because he had a way
of flipping things
915
00:51:59,594 --> 00:52:02,075
within the legal system
and creating false documents
916
00:52:02,206 --> 00:52:04,425
to support his side of things.
917
00:52:05,992 --> 00:52:07,950
[phone rings]
918
00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:10,692
- My phone rings,
and a detective
919
00:52:10,779 --> 00:52:14,174
with the El Dorado Hills
Police Department is calling.
920
00:52:14,261 --> 00:52:16,045
- At this point,
Brandon was in custody
921
00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:17,873
and Detective Chris Macres
922
00:52:17,917 --> 00:52:19,614
was really trying
to build his case,
923
00:52:19,745 --> 00:52:22,617
and he reached out to myself
and Athena to get our help.
924
00:52:24,489 --> 00:52:27,056
- Thankfully,
because of the podcast,
925
00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:30,321
we had documented all
of Brandon's criminal charges,
926
00:52:30,408 --> 00:52:33,889
even just timelines,
events, women.
927
00:52:33,933 --> 00:52:36,457
- Having the two
ex-wives school them
928
00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:41,506
on Brandon Johnson was
kind of eye-opening for him.
929
00:52:41,636 --> 00:52:44,857
- All the evidence painted
a very clear picture
930
00:52:44,944 --> 00:52:48,295
for those detectives
to see that, wow,
931
00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:51,211
this is so much bigger than
just this incident
932
00:52:51,298 --> 00:52:53,605
here in California.
933
00:52:53,692 --> 00:52:56,390
But by the end of this,
Amber and myself
934
00:52:56,521 --> 00:52:58,392
were never subpoenaed
to go to court
935
00:52:58,479 --> 00:53:00,046
because the case
against Brandon
936
00:53:00,133 --> 00:53:02,527
was so strong it wasn't needed.
937
00:53:02,657 --> 00:53:05,878
[soft music]
938
00:53:05,965 --> 00:53:08,794
- I receive
the phone call that
939
00:53:08,881 --> 00:53:14,147
there's a deal on the table,
a plea deal of ten years.
940
00:53:17,019 --> 00:53:21,546
And I remember asking,
do you think this is fair?
941
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:25,854
And my representation said yes.
942
00:53:25,941 --> 00:53:28,379
And then I was like, okay,
943
00:53:28,422 --> 00:53:31,817
that seems valuable enough
to me.
944
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,694
- He's going to jail
for 10 years.
945
00:53:39,825 --> 00:53:41,130
- Solid?
946
00:53:41,261 --> 00:53:44,003
- No option to dispute it,
947
00:53:44,090 --> 00:53:47,224
ten years in the slammer.
948
00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:49,313
- Oh, my God.
949
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,228
- I feel like I should cry,
but I can't.
950
00:53:51,315 --> 00:53:52,968
I think I'm just in shock.
951
00:53:53,099 --> 00:53:54,927
- Yeah.
952
00:53:55,014 --> 00:53:56,711
This was the moment
that I've been waiting
953
00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:58,887
probably 16 years for.
954
00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:02,500
It's just a very long time to
wait for justice to be served.
955
00:54:02,587 --> 00:54:06,808
♪ ♪
956
00:54:06,895 --> 00:54:08,549
- In all honesty,
he deserves so much more.
957
00:54:08,636 --> 00:54:10,508
He really does.
958
00:54:10,595 --> 00:54:15,077
But there was just relief
that now he was
959
00:54:15,208 --> 00:54:17,471
going to start
his prison sentence.
960
00:54:20,866 --> 00:54:22,824
- Our mission statement on the
podcast at the very beginning
961
00:54:22,911 --> 00:54:25,305
was that women had
each other's back.
962
00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:30,397
And I did very much
feel that...
963
00:54:30,528 --> 00:54:35,750
that this was vindication,
so to speak.
964
00:54:35,837 --> 00:54:38,536
- I'm definitely very
grateful for Amber and Athena,
965
00:54:38,623 --> 00:54:41,103
for their support
and their guidance.
966
00:54:41,234 --> 00:54:43,671
Without that,
we wouldn't have taken
967
00:54:43,802 --> 00:54:46,457
a lot of the protective
measures that we did.
968
00:54:46,544 --> 00:54:50,809
And I think they're important
as to why Rachel's safe.
969
00:54:53,638 --> 00:54:55,292
- After everything
that had happened,
970
00:54:55,422 --> 00:54:59,296
I realized that someone's kind
of taken something from you,
971
00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:03,648
but you can take it back.
972
00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:07,434
And that's been
really important for me.
973
00:55:10,742 --> 00:55:13,527
[wind chimes tinkling]
974
00:55:13,614 --> 00:55:17,488
Sadly, Brandon will
never change his ways.
975
00:55:17,575 --> 00:55:23,058
He is who he is, and this is
just an evil person.
976
00:55:23,145 --> 00:55:25,713
There's another woman
out there who's potentially
977
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,849
his next victim, and I just
don't want anyone else
978
00:55:30,936 --> 00:55:33,460
to have to ever
go through that.
979
00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:36,637
Brandon Johnson will never win.
980
00:55:36,724 --> 00:55:39,901
I won't allow it. Mm-mm.
981
00:55:39,988 --> 00:55:43,862
[hopeful music]
982
00:55:43,949 --> 00:55:48,519
- The big change I would make
is to have a database,
983
00:55:48,562 --> 00:55:52,349
a system put into place to make
sure that if you are entering
984
00:55:52,479 --> 00:55:54,960
a domestic relationship,
no matter where you were,
985
00:55:55,047 --> 00:55:59,094
you would see that person's,
all of their criminal activity.
986
00:55:59,181 --> 00:56:02,402
We could lobby.
We could make a change.
987
00:56:05,536 --> 00:56:08,103
- Brandon Johnsons exist
all around the world
988
00:56:08,147 --> 00:56:11,498
in different sizes,
shapes, names.
989
00:56:11,585 --> 00:56:13,587
They--they're out there.
990
00:56:13,718 --> 00:56:15,937
So we're not gonna allow them
to terrorize women anymore.
991
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,595
[soft dramatic music]
992
00:56:21,682 --> 00:56:28,472
♪ ♪
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