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Tonight, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion concludes.

Is Kathy coming?

Kathy?

Oh. Perfect. Gorgeous.

Here she comes, the grand dame of Beverly Hills.

Sometimes we do say things a little bit out of anger, and I am a hundred

times more sensitive than you.

Um, no.

Is there anything going on with Morgan?

It looked like you guys were girlfriends.

You are separated but still living under one roof. Do you talk

about divorce?

It's hard for us to say that word, I think.

Are there conversations about someone moving out?

When did things really start to change? Is there an event?

Something happened where I did lose my trust.

Something that he did?

Erica, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.

Who do you think is most afraid of her?

Are you OK?

What's up? Are you OK?

What? Lay down.

Can she lay down? Oh, god. Oh, god. This is making me nervous. You're shaking.

You're shaking.

Oh, god.

No, hold on. Hold on. Can we call somebody, please?

So Teddy commented on your drinking. Yeah. She said you carry vodka around

you. Yeah. Was she doing your dirty work? Absolutely not.

Well, you could have said, no, she doesn't, Teddy.

Listen, I did not say anything. There's things I could have said I did not. So

how about that? But it's the insinuation. I didn't say that. It's

your responsibility in the insinuation. You have got to understand this at some

point, Kyle.

Kyle, you have been relentlessly mean to me.

Where?

Where? As Denise would say, watch the show.

You have done mean jabs all season long. Oh, my God. Yes, you have. And where

did it start? And if you can't take responsibility for it, it's going to

you insane.

Why don't you learn to, like, shut up sometimes and listen?

I want to know.

For someone who has lost someone, where was the compassion?

I should have.

Why did I say to you? I could have been a better friend to you, and I am sorry.

And by the way, when you said that in the church in Spain.

I'm sorry.

I said, yes, you were. Because I

felt bad, and we were in a house of God. So I was like, I'm going to forgive

her. You were faking it. No. I said, let me finish my sentence.

I wanted to forgive you and move on.

But. It was extremely hurtful at that dinner party to sit there and be grilled

about my marriage. But I didn't say anything about your marriage. I was just

asking questions.

All right. Well, where do you two go from here? That's the question. I love

Sutton. I really did consider her my friend.

That's why it hurt me so much.

This may take some time, but I don't see something that we can't fix.

We're going to be fine.

And I think we both know that in our hearts. Yeah.

And I'm, see, then I'll start getting teary because I miss her so much.

I told her, I mean, I miss talking to her, too. That's why I was so confused.

think I just wanted support from everybody at that time instead of giving

Ethan.

Maybe you should hug it out.

Yeah, I'll hug it out.

Really? If I can stand. What is it, Beth?

I love you.

Hold me up, don't let me fall.

I'm sorry.

One more hug. Okay, okay.

Don't make out with him.

All right.

I'm going to leave it there. We're going to take a break, and then we're going

to bring your friend out.

Okay, what are we waiting on?

Is Kathy coming?

Right at me right there. Perfect.

Gorgeous.

Thank you.

We're standing by to Mike, Kathy. Kathy is not Mike.

Okay.

Well, I guess we should wrap it up then, guys. Bye. Well, you know, I'm really

feeling like we need to go. I haven't even cried.

Well, then we can't leave until you do. You're about to. Oh, shut up. You are

about to.

Andy. Was Kathy supposed to be a surprise?

Yeah.

Oh.

All right, we'll let you go in here.

Okay. Oh, God, it's hot.

I'm uncomfortable.

Yep. Oh, great.

Here she comes, everybody. The grand dame of Beverly Hills.

Hello. Not Lisa Vanderpump. Hi, Daisy.

Hello. Hi.

I texted you back when I woke up.

It's the time I went to sleep.

Hello, Sparkly. How are you? Okay.

Okay.

Kathy Hilton, welcome back to the last place we thought we would see you again.

sitting next to your sister at the reunion stage. Great to see you.

Thank you. It's great to see all of you. And I see that you are holding a

crystal as well.

I brought an extra one for us to share.

That's so sweet.

Kathy, how does it feel to be back and be back sitting next to Kyle? It feels

really good. I believe things happen for a reason, and I'm here. Of course, I

wanted to see everybody and be here to support Kyle.

I'm happy you're here.

Kathy, have you seen the show this season? Oh, I watch all the clips.

Oh, you watch all the clips?

Yeah. Okay. You watch all the interwebs, you know, Instagram.

Interwebs. Okay. You didn't watch the show, but you saw the clips. No, I don't

watch anybody's show, but I actually watch What Happens Live. Oh, that's fun.

Yeah, I like that because it goes by so quick. Yes, it does.

You know, I'm glad the two of you are doing better now. But Kyle and Kathy's

relationship has been under the microscope since day one.

And just last season, Kathy appeared to close the door on their relationship

together. But Kyle couldn't help but notice that some people here continued

blow in whatever direction Kathy and the wind from her box fan would take them.

Watch.

This past year, you know, I had an issue with my older sister, Kathy.

That night, you were screaming at me in front of everybody, and it really hurt

me and embarrassed me.

If someone hurts me, I have to keep them at arm's length to protect myself.

Mm -hmm.

Blood included.

Why are you upset with me right now? Because I got upset.

Just say it. Why are you acting like a martyr? Like, it's just you.

Okay, now that we're not speaking now, she gets so mean. I really can't handle

the meanness, like, the way she talks.

You didn't say, this guy just hurt my feelings. I'm so embarrassed. She said,

are out of here. Everybody saw.

I know. And you looked at me like, you fucking leave me now. And I was like,

Kathy, first of all, I'm an adult. You can't talk to me like that.

Mom, never wanted this kind of stuff. No.

All about us sticking together. Friends come and go and people come and go.

Family stays.

You're mad at me about the Kathy thing?

That hasn't even registered to me.

If she admits that she is angry with me for being friends with Kathy, that means

she doesn't like Kathy. This is a love triangle gone awry.

You can go fuck yourself because you know the truth. You've had your own

situations with her and you don't want to speak up. Tell everybody what Kathy

did. Kathy did not like that I did not stick up for her in the press. So she

called me and she yelled at me. And I told Kyle, I see what you've

Yeah, but you were real quiet that day when we were all killed last night,

weren't you?

Some women in this group fear Kathy because she holds the access to

they want. You can lock you out of parties or lock you out of social

I don't really care if I get invited to any of your Christmas parties or if I'm

not on your list.

How do you feel about being friends with Kathy? I would like to feel like, you

know, you guys aren't sitting around talking about something. So I feel like

guys have your own relationship.

No. No.

I get it. You want to be friends with Kathy.

Do I think it's because she has a lot of parties?

I do.

All right.

We'll get to you two coming together. But, Erica, you said some women in this

group fear Kathy because she holds the access to something they want. She can

lock you out of Beverly Hills or lock you out of parties, lock you out of

groups. Be careful.

No, actually, I saw that, and I played it.

Several times.

And I sent it to people.

Erica, who do you think is most afraid of her in this group?

She's Beverly Hill.

Yeah. And she sets that standard. And there are a lot of women. You don't want

to run crossways with this one. Right.

Are you OK? Are you OK? What's wrong?

Are you OK?

What? This is making me nervous.

Oh, God.

What's wrong? You're shaking. You're shaking.

Oh, God. Can we call somebody, please?

Erica, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.

Who do you think is most afraid of her in this group?

She's a Beverly Hills.

Yeah. And you don't want to run crossways with this one.

Right. All right. Well, are you okay? Are you okay?

Are you okay?

What's wrong? Are you okay? You want some water?

Oh, God.

Can we call somebody, please? You're shaking.

I don't want to lay down. I don't want to lay down.

No, no, no. Hold on. She's not sick. She's shaking. Why don't you sit down?

Let's lay down. Lay down. Sit down. Okay.

No, I know, but you're shaking. You're shaking. I don't think this is good. Oh,

my God. That's scary.

She was saying she was hot a lot. A hot place.

You're 49 years old. It's bound to happen.

I'm going to put this on your arm, okay?

You're shaking a little bit. Do you feel dizzy or nauseous at all? Well, I got a

little scared.

Why? You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. Your blood pressure is high.

Your pulse is high.

We should call, like, 911 to come get her. She has to go get checked out

I think that you should get checked out. I don't think it's necessary that we

call 911 for you. Thank you. We've got transport here that can take you gladly

to local urgent care or to a hospital if you feel that that's necessary.

How have you been?

Good. I love the holidays so much, and I felt like I didn't get to enjoy it

enough. Is your tree still up? Do you still have your stuff up? I just took it

down. Oh, wow.

Well, why don't we just get her to lay down, and then we'll get them to get up.

You don't want to lay down? Well, you don't have to lay down out here, but I

just think maybe you could lay down on your couch in your dressing room. I

have steady feet.

Can we get her slippers?

Does she have a problem with her legs or whatever?

Neuropathy. I don't understand what that is.

Your nerves? It's like pins and needles.

It's like kind of neurological.

Yes. I'll be okay.

You're okay to walk? Yeah. Can someone walk with her? No. The blood pressure is

very high.

That's as high as mine was.

What is that fearing me?

You're okay. That's all you're doing. You're fine. You're going to be okay.

Sutton, you're going to be okay.

You're going to be okay.

You're going to be okay.

I feel like she lost consciousness for a hot second.

As you're walking, you feel a little better? Yeah. Okay.

You look like you're shaking.

Yeah. Well, I got scared.

All right.

I think she knew it.

It's a good way to get out of here.

Switch it right.

Exactly.

What we can do is we can sit you down for now. Uh -huh.

But I really think that you need to go get checked out somewhere.

Okay. Do you want me to come?

Okay. I want to come.

Can I get something to eat?

Absolutely. Yeah.

Somebody open the door, please. I got it. I got it.

Thank you.

So we'll get you inside. We'll close the door. We'll have a little privacy. I

got you. Okay.

Here,

your hands are shaking. Let me hold it.

I'm okay.

I just ate a banana.

Eat another banana.

I know this isn't Ruby Red, but. No.

Larry, she's shaking.

You're going to be okay. We got you. Okay.

Okay. Everybody's PTSD and trauma.

That's the reunion first.

I know. I thought the same thing.

Ladies. Yes. Yes, sir. I know that we all want her to get better. I think

The best thing for her is for her to lay down and she'll be taken care of. And

I just want to keep talking.

We'll get to you two coming together, but I want to go back, though. Erica,

said some women in this group fear Kathy.

Carl's not afraid of anybody, not even you. You know, look, as an outsider, I'm

the outsider looking in, right, because it's not my social group. You don't

care. Let me say this. You don't give.

Yeah. Who, even when you were married and things were, you don't hear.

Yeah. I see Kathy coming from the dance floor. She says, the DJ's an old fucking

faggot and walked off.

Anyone that knows me knows I don't talk like that. And anyone that knows me

knows I'm not lying.

I don't know if that's a good thing or not. No, no, but I mean, I will say

She can pick up the phone.

And make things happen in a very graceful way. I totally agree with

Kathy is a powerful person. She is Beverly Hills, exactly.

But do you think there's anybody that we know that thinks like that? I mean, can

you see me? Yes, I do. I don't think they would admit it to you, but I

definitely... People in this group?

Yeah. You know, it's interesting because you were here and I think Lisa Rinna

was right here and it was not pretty.

You are the biggest... Bully in Hollywood, and everyone knows it. I saw

devil. You were a fucking monster, and that was that.

And then you and I were together on Watch What Happens Live recently, and

said that Renna sent you flowers. The two of you had a long phone call.

What did that conversation entail that allowed you to make up? Well, she sent

very beautiful flowers and a lovely note.

Uh -huh. What did the note say?

I'd like to do some healing and...

You know, I don't want to, that's between us. And when somebody extends

branch like that.

That's nice.

And what is the status of your relationship with Lisa?

Well, I didn't really, you know, obviously after that happened, I kept my

distance, you know, and she did too. I bump into her and she's always nice and

she'll send me a funny meme from like the show or something.

So, Kathy, how did you feel leaving last year's reunion?

Did you think this was it for you and Kyle? Never.

My relationship with my sister is more important than any TV show.

I mean, Kyle, think about it.

Have we ever had a blow -up like that? I mean, the press will say certain

things.

If I had to count, and I will hide my fingers, in all of our life where we

had a fight.

Because they make it like, oh, we had a fight, we had a fight. They're always

fighting.

A big fight like that?

Three? What did I have? Absolutely did. So, I mean, we're sisters.

That's going to happen.

Well, Kathy, it's no secret that Mauricio starting the agency created

between your families. I have been approached to create...

Our own company. And it's so difficult for me to deal with that because of

family. Here is my sister, my brother -in -law, my family, and I don't want

to be upset.

Mo even wrote in his book regarding Rick's company that if they paid me what

deserved and showed me an inkling of professional love, he would have stayed,

but they didn't see it that way. Those are all quotes.

When he left, he did call on a Thursday.

Okay. And Rick said, okay. He said, when are you planning on leaving? And he

said, on Friday. And he said, your family, just know opening your own

is tough. The door is always open for you. Just don't poach on my staff

or my agents.

And did he?

A few. And that put Kyle and I in a kind of a funky.

And you and Mo in a bad spot.

I would think.

Right. But let me say this, and Kyle, you do know this, because you... I don't

want to get into that stuff. I won't. I really don't. But Rick did.

But he would... We also had people that are under him in the Umansky group at

Hilton Highland. Right.

So... Yeah.

So he had built his group within Hilton Highland. Okay. I don't want to talk

about business. I'm going to go back to two more things that we went through

hell through. I've been through enough.

I didn't care.

It's okay.

You're going to be okay.

Have you ever had anything like this happen before?

No. Never?

I'm going to get another blood pressure real fast while we wait.

You don't feel nauseous or anything?

I feel a little nauseous. Okay. I feel a little sleepy.

Okay. Well, it seems like you're having a lot more symptoms than I'm seeing at

first. Yeah.

Okay.

She's still shaking.

Is she? Yeah.

She needs to go. Okay.

You want to change? You want to go with her? Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, I'm going

to change.

What?

I need my phone,

though. We were going to go to dinner. I need to cancel dinner.

I'm on stage.

Behind the pillow.

Just want to let you know, Sutton is okay, but they're going to take her to

hospital out of an abundance of caution, and Garcelle's going with her to the

hospital. We're all praying for Sutton. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

So I just want to grab Garcelle and Sutton's phones, and then we've also got

Merce Cunningham's asses. Yeah. I think they're all there.

Coming up, when did things really start to change? Is there an event?

Something happened where I did lose my trot? Something that he did?

I just want to grab Garcelle and Sutton's phones, and then we've also got

Cunningham's ashes here. I think they're all here.

He's in the purse again. He's in the purse again.

There you go.

Merce is in there?

Yeah, Merce is in there. I thought we set him free.

She kept a little more of it.

The ashes to the reunion.

I feel honored that Merce Cunningham is here. Well, at least give her a seat.

I'll go on the other side.

Okay. Okay.

Feel better, okay? Okay. Love you.

Bye, Garcelle.

You want to take off your jacket?

No, Garcelle. I can come.

You're not going to die.

Because you have more people to ruffle the feathers when you go.

So how did the two of you come back together, Kathy and Kyle? I mean, what

happened? Because we saw this season you were estranged.

Our niece, Whitney, got married.

So there was a shower. Kim's daughter.

Right. So there was a shower. So I saw Kathy and the girls for the first time

there. I'm sorry.

It was not your fault. Get the video. Get the video. I got the video.

It was not your fault.

And then they all came to my house in Aspen for like a welcome dinner party.

Okay. And then it just sort of like broke the ice. And it was beautiful. And

then the next day, so silly, but I've been there so

long.

And there's no music and nobody's here.

Kyle go, oh, my God, that's my sister Kathy.

And she came and sat with me.

And I'm, oh.

You missed her. She was, like, really happy and proud. And, like, no one was

there. And so I felt so.

Included. Included and happy.

Oh, that's great. Wow.

That's really nice.

Here's a Kleenex.

Kathy, on Bravo's Hot Mike podcast, Kyle worried the things that she said on the

show could ruin your reconciliation with her. I was very, like, honest in the

moment. And now I'm stressed that, you know, what did I say in the moments when

I thought we were done?

Because I don't want that to kick everything up and ruin my relationship

So that scares me. She warned me. She did. She said, I feel so bad. We're in

such a great place.

And sometimes we do say things a little bit out of anger.

And, you know, I am 100 times more sensitive than you.

Okay. Do you agree?

No. I may come across like that sometimes.

That doesn't mean that you're not a sensitive person, but your vibe is

Yours is very strong, too. I don't think you realize how strong yours is.

I really feel that you love me very much. I do love you very much.

I like to feel that I need you.

I want to be needed. I do need you.

I do need you.

And you've been really, really there for me in an unbelievable way.

Lately, and it means a lot to me. But I always would be, and you always have for

me.

Seeing you back together today, how do you think your mom would feel?

Happy. I think my mom is here.

Yeah. Our mom is here.

Kyle, while it's so encouraging to see you and your sisters get back on track,

the same cannot be said for all the relationships in your life. Kyle and

Mauricio always seemed like they were rock solid and madly in love.

But this year, the public saw cracks begin to form in their relationship.

And now, a marriage and Kyle's future are left hanging in the balance.

Thanks, Andy.

I'm sorry. Watch.

Honey, we can see the Eiffel Tower so perfectly from here.

It's like the lover's bridge.

That's where you're right.

Kyle and Mauricio forever.

Perfect.

Honey, I'm working.

As soon as you can wrap up your golf schedule, let me know.

With the way my relationship is right now, I'm not happy because of the lack

time together.

Hey. No, don't be kissing me like that.

I could kiss you however I want.

I don't want to wake up and be like, who are you?

What are we supposed to talk about now?

I told your mom you have a tattoo.

What is wrong with you? But she meant the tattoo on me. So then I said, maybe

you don't. I said, I don't know for sure.

Oh, this is what people talk about when they go through a rough time.

Whatever. I don't want to talk about that right now. I don't want to talk

it.

In tabloids, Kyle and Mo are having problems in their marriage. Okay.

Mauricio may be having an affair.

I usually see you and Mo together.

I felt like I needed a little freedom.

Then she's got a new band.

Like, specifically away from your husband?

Is there something going on in your personal life that you would like to

What's with the new wedding band?

This is what you're talking about. And I thought it was a makeup band. So what

you're saying is that my husband cheated on me.

Kyle does not want to address the elephant in the room. You want my

have cheated and bought me that van that he did not buy me? Let's not do that.

Because he didn't. I bought it myself.

Is there something going on in your marriage?

This is Morgan.

How did you guys met?

He stalked me.

Morgan is 100 % herself.

I honestly was just really taken by that. I'm just glad it's you out there

having an affair.

For once, it's me.

Breaking news. Kyle and Mauricio have officially split.

Oh, my God.

The people?

Kyle was lying to us this whole time. I think you're right. It's a lot more than

just a difficult year.

Complete strangers are like, you made us believe in true love, and now it's

false. This is true love. Everybody else's opinion can fuck off.

And if we can't work it out?

That's okay.

The marriage that I had is gone.

One, two, three, make a wish.

Everybody hold real still.

Everybody smile at me.

Gorgeous. What is the issue that the two of you can't let go of?

There were things that happened.

That made me lose my trust that I wasn't able to

recover from.

We're a very strong family, and we always will be.

Always will be.

It's tough to watch.

At your final party last year, we saw you and Mo on camera, and everything

seemed good. When did things really start to change? Is there an event that

stands out as the beginning of what you called your hard year?

You know, like with any marriage, there's issues that you have, and they

up.

You get busy. You've got kids. My kids are little.

I'm working. I'm being a mommy and doing all that. And it gets put aside. And

then we'll come up again.

Some of the issues never went away.

They were never really, like, worked on.

And then something, like I said in my interview, happened where I did lose my

trust.

Something that he did?

Coming up, you've said we're separated, we're broken up. Yeah. So then when you

see him, like, partying it up in Aspen with a bunch of women, how are you

handling that?

So, Kyle, when did things really start to change? Is there an event that stands

out as the beginning of what you called your hard year?

You know, like with any marriage, there's issues that, you know, you have,

they come up, and then something, like I said in my interview, happened where I

did lose my trust, and... Something that he did?

You know, I care about my family first, and... I mean, I tried.

I really did try, and... So then when I couldn't...

I, um, the kind of things that I had been, I wouldn't say putting up with,

you know, this became more apparent to me, I guess.

And, um, I just couldn't, I guess I couldn't do that anymore. And I finally

a breaking point, but I, I really thought it would come back, you know. I

thought, okay, well, this is just a temporary thing.

And?

And it didn't.

Did you want it to?

Of course.

I wasn't married to this man for 28 years because I was, I mean.

You're not faking it at 28 years. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just,

it's not.

Anybody knows I did not want to be in this position.

You know, look, since the beginning of this show, there were rumors

about infidelity in your relationship. And I'm even thinking, wasn't that what

those tabloids were?

that somehow appeared on that cast trip.

Kyle, there is that story about Mauricio cheating and whatnot.

Like, what's up with that?

You tell Brandy to pack the tabloids and have the lies about Mauricio and them.

Yeah. I'm pissed. I'm fucking pissed. I don't know what you want me to tell you.

Yes. Yes.

And he would say to me, you know, we can't care. We know the truth. And, you

know, and of course, there's always that little voice in my head like, well,

what if this...

It's true. People would say these things all the time.

Even if they're not true. Of course, 100%. The damage is done no matter what.

He's gone through it. Yeah, I know.

It's a campaign of whispers. It's a campaign of whispers. It whispers

and then that's how it comes ugly.

Did those rumors over the years cause you to chip away at your trust for him?

Yeah. They did.

And they made me feel insecure.

You know what? People I know, when you're high profile, they're going to

you're this, you're that.

They're going to make stories up.

They're trying to make you feel bad, and it works. And it does work. It does

work. I mean, it worked on you and I.

Right.

What was the story behind the DMs you mentioned in Ojai?

What is appropriate for husbands when it comes to communicating with other women

on social media?

You're not supposed to be communicating with other women on social media. I

agree. Come on.

I've had, like, a fight with Mo over that. I hate that.

Oh,

my God.

Well,

you know, years ago, Mo didn't know about, like, DMs.

So I would, like, look and see, you know, girls would always reach out to

and he would never respond because he didn't know that existed.

Okay.

And I would just delete and block them. Okay, good. He doesn't even know this,

by the way. Okay. If he sees it, he'll know.

So then he learned about them. Then I'm like, why are you following this person

and liking this person's photos?

Oh, boy. And there's always so many, like, girls from all over. And they're

like, they want to join the agency.

I'm like, I'm sure they do.

Oh, boy. And I've said it in the past. You don't need to follow every single

person that follows you. Right. Or every single person.

That tells people, like, I'm interested in seeing what's going on in your life.

I want to look at you like that sends the wrong message.

How did he respond to that? I mean, there was always, you know, a reason

gave, but they were not good enough reasons for me. Also, it's their duty

not make you feel uncomfortable, you know, to not do it. It bothers me and

me that much. Just don't do it.

It's not that hard. It's not that big of an ask. Right. This year, it seemed

like the two of you were struggling to find time together as a couple,

particularly as Mauricio's professional obligations expanded. I have to say, I

did not have it on my bingo card ever that Mauricio would be on Dancing with

Stars. That blew my mind. No, same. That's when I thought, There is no way

hell that Kyle would have okayed that.

It just seemed out of character. Well, the funny thing is that if our marriage

was in the place it used to be, I would have never have said yes.

Right. But I was like, okay.

Let me ask you something. Why, though?

It's not like you would be jealous or anything.

Oh, yes, I would.

Would you? Yeah, I would have.

Really? I don't know.

That's why.

On Dancing with the Stars, Mauricio dedicated a very suggestive dance with

partner, Emma, to you, Kyle.

Marble Fractal on Reddit said, the intimacy of the dance and the dedication

Kyle were 100 % an F you to Kyle, done specifically by Mauricio to get under

skin. All of Dancing with the Stars is suggestive.

I'm sorry.

Look, when you're doing the waltz, your pelvises are together.

The whole thing is partners. Well, how did you take it?

Did you see it?

It was very hard for me to watch.

I wouldn't have cared.

How did you feel seeing photos of he and Emma holding hands?

Not feeling good.

How did you take it, Dorit?

I didn't like it.

When I saw it, it felt like me seeing PK holding another woman's hand.

You've said we're separated, we're broken up. No, we are separated. We are

allowed to do what we want to each of us. So then when you see him like

it up in Aspen with a bunch of women, I mean, does that, how are you handling

that? It's weird because we live together in the same house.

So it's sort of like, what are you doing?

Adam from Outwater Village said Kyle's dancing around the reason for her split.

What's the real reason and why won't she just spit it out?

Coming up. Is there anything going on with Morgan?

It looked like you guys were girlfriends.

Adam from Atwater Village said, Kyle's dancing around the reason for her split.

What's the real reason, and why won't she just spit it out?

Because it's nobody's fucking business.

So, Kyle, when you and Mauricio this season saw you together many times, and

was very awkward, and it was very clear that your dynamic was in a totally

different state. When you said to him, don't kiss me like that.

Yep. Hey.

Well, don't be kidding me like that.

I could kiss you however I want.

Because... That was a particularly... I'll tell you why. He very much did not

want anyone to know we had any issues happening.

And because we hadn't said anything to our daughters, like, I kept thinking,

well, I have six months or whatever till it airs, you know, we have to tell

them. But we were just trying to figure things out still. In that moment, I felt

like he was... Trying to overly prove everything was okay by kissing me. And

not someone who can pretend like that.

So I don't want him to grab me and kiss me. So I said, don't kiss me like that.

You are separated but still living under one roof.

Are there conversations about someone moving out?

Yes, there has been now.

Who would move out?

He would. He would.

How are the kids handling this?

My girls are so strong and supportive.

But, you know, it's painful for everybody. It's very painful. Even

through things with people.

He's my family. He's my niece's father.

And now looking back, I would say for the last... Maybe three years.

You've been traveling when you're not doing housewives. You're going all over.

And little by little, people enjoy some success.

And they start to go off in different directions.

And you're busy, like the hamster in the cage, chasing your tail.

No time to think about anything.

And then all of a sudden, you have this devastation.

But you were a little weird for three years. Not with me.

Okay. That's actually not correct timing with my marriage, to be honest.

So the separation is definitive. Do you talk about divorce, or you're just

taking one step at a time?

It's hard for us to say that word, I think.

But, I mean, if he's looking for a place to move out, I haven't really

seen any progress.

You know, we get along.

but like friends.

Yeah. Are you hopeful they'll get back together, Kathy?

I only want what he wants.

I support you, and your happiness is the most important thing.

Yeah.

We're all hoping for the best in whatever course this takes.

I want to turn to the person that got everyone talking this season, and that's

your friend Morgan Wade.

There's been a big response to...

The two of you, what's been her reaction to seeing herself on the show?

She'd never seen the show, and she did not realize the attention it gets. It

a lot of scrutiny for her. She was not comfortable with, like, every single

Like, page six, Daily Mail, TMZ, you know. Just speculating about the two of

you. Yes.

NYC Stephanie on Twitter said the chemistry in Kyle and Morgan's first

together is electric.

You look like you'd be a little crazy.

Thanks, Morgan.

Really? Thank you. Well, I can get fiery, not crazy.

See? It's already happening.

JJ said Kyle's like a giddy schoolgirl around her. I wonder if the group, did

you all think that they were together?

I did.

You did? Yeah.

From the tabloid?

I thought it before.

I was, I was, I was sent stuff. Kathy, I was sent stuff. We had lunch one day.

Crystal kind of like was hinting around. You didn't even say the name. You're

just like his close friend.

I just thought it was like way low key, but people sent me stuff like Instagram

pictures. And I remember thinking they're, they're together.

Dory, what did you think?

An Instagram.

There were a lot of pictures of you guys.

And so then I remember thinking, are they together?

It looked like you guys were girlfriends.

Anna Marie, you said on the after show that Kyle found someone in Morgan who

makes her feel loved.

Kyle found somebody who supports her and makes her

feel loved.

would expand on that. Yeah, I mean, I think it's great when you have a

friendship with somebody and you guys, like, really get each other and there

things that you can bond over. You know, I think that's really important,

especially when you're going through such a tough time in your life.

Garcelle and Sutton also had some thoughts to share on the after show.

Kyle would drop a couple of things that she did with Morgan that I thought, wow,

that's so, such a personal thing to do.

She went to the doctor with her.

But I thought to myself... Wow, that's such a personal thing, like, to go with

someone you just met.

Hmm.

Orange Rhyme said, I feel like Kyle has a big girl crush on Morgan, but I don't

feel it's reciprocated. Randy DeSavage said, this is the reason Morgan is

friends with Kyle. She likes the clout. Ladies, what do you think? That's

ridiculous. She has critically acclaimed music. Yeah, yeah.

Conversely, you kind of made her a household name.

like I said, you know, she cares about making music and I Really give up being

household name just to be able to keep making her music and not have that

scrutiny So like when did you decide to do the music video a month like when I

or what like when like during?

The music video was done actually Right like about I want to say a month before

That story broke about mommy, but the point of obviously once that story came

out about mommy Well, I'd been making the video after that, but, you know, we

made it before. You had already done it. We'd already done it.

So the purpose of that music video was what?

You know, she was on tour at the time, and then she was going to be playing at

Stagecoach, and she said, I want to come do this for you to support you for, you

know, the event for Laureen, but then you have to be in one of my videos.

I didn't really know the creative behind it until I got there.

If you get on the internet, you see people are upset with us being friends

why we're friends. But we thought it would be kind of a good idea and kind of

poke fun at that.

Well, if they're going to talk, you might as well give them something to

about.

And I said to the director, I've never actually kissed anybody on camera,

let alone a woman or off camera. Right.

I was very nervous and, you know, anxious.

But, I mean, if I'm being honest with myself, I was obviously curious in order

to say yes.

I mean, I don't, I love, I mean, I don't know. I just don't, I don't know.

No, no, I'm not. I'm saying I was obviously curious. I said yes for a

mean, and she's, you know what? She's hot. What can I say?

Million dollar question.

Is there anything going on between the two of you?

Kyle,

million -dollar question.

Is there anything going on with Morgan?

In that way?

Yeah.

No.

Are you a couple?

No. Do you have feelings for her?

I mean, I love her, and she's my friend, and I love her.

Kathy, what do you think of Morgan? You've hung out with her a bunch.

I have hung out with her a bunch, and I just think she is funny.

She's very bright, humble, refreshing.

And then when I saw her perform, I was really blown away.

Kyle, could you see yourself with Morgan?

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. By the way, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

Okay. That's not a no.

I'm evolving.

I'm changing. I'm clearly going through some evolution of my own. And I

don't know. I don't know what my future holds right now. Well, maybe next year

she'll be out here on the couch with us. Who knows? You never know. You never

know. All right.

I'm going to leave it there. And this is so odd because we've got Garcelle and

Sutton and Merce's remaining ashes in an ambulance.

On their way to the hospital, we're all praying for Sutton. Yeah. Yeah,

absolutely. And I'm glad she's getting help.

And I would love to just ask each of you something that you're going to take

away from this season. I want to start with you, Anne -Marie.

You had a rough ride.

Very rough ride. I hope you feel tonight like you were able to mend some fences.

I think...

It's just important for me to remember that what is most important is happiness

and health.

Yeah. Crystal?

That I shouldn't be afraid to speak up because my voice matters.

Yeah.

Erica?

I'm okay.

Like, I'm proud that I showed up for myself.

It's been hard.

But I feel so much better.

Yeah. Thank you. Kathy, feel good?

I do. I'm really happy to be able to be here with Kyle tonight and to be able to

speak. I really think that it's wonderful that you girls, at the end of

do care about each other and have a sisterhood.

And I really respect it.

Nice.

Dorit, what about you?

Not to trust.

Let me start again, Andy. Sorry.

Go ahead.

You didn't want to ask me the question. No, I know I did. Go ahead.

Sorry.

I am just by nature. If somebody's being nice and someone is, you know, makes

me feel like we're friends, I believe it.

And I think I have to be a little less naive.

Okay. Dorit, that was about Carsell, what you were saying, right?

Yeah.

Kyle, I'll let you have the last word.

While I may have lost what I felt was my happily ever

after, I am strong enough and I'm going, I will have my happily ever after no

matter what.

Okay. Thank you.

A lot of optimism ending the season, which I like.

And we miss Garcelle and Sutton.

We want to thank all of you at home for watching. What a great season, ladies.

I'm Andy Cohen. Good night.

Make sure you remind everyone who you are because no one really knows you.

Sorry. They put it in a prompter. I know.