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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,487 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:12,847 the people are represented 3 00:00:12,888 --> 00:00:15,391 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:15,433 --> 00:00:17,184 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:17,226 --> 00:00:20,146 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:20,187 --> 00:00:22,398 These are their stories. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,026 ♪ Okay, stress me on checkers or chess ♪ 8 00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:28,279 ♪ I don't play by the rules if you guessed it ♪ 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,781 ♪ We about to run it up, run it up ♪ 10 00:00:30,823 --> 00:00:34,660 ♪ We about to run it up, run it up, run ♪ 11 00:00:34,702 --> 00:00:37,204 ♪ We about to run it up, run it up ♪ 12 00:00:37,246 --> 00:00:41,292 [ENGINE REVVING] [ALARM BLARING] 13 00:00:41,334 --> 00:00:44,253 [TENSE MUSIC] 14 00:00:44,295 --> 00:00:45,671 ♪ ♪ 15 00:00:45,713 --> 00:00:47,673 [GUN CLICKS] 16 00:00:50,092 --> 00:00:51,677 [SIREN WAILING] 17 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:53,596 Hell of a way to start your day, huh? 18 00:00:53,637 --> 00:00:55,806 Yeah, I'm not sure it's actually started yet. 19 00:00:55,848 --> 00:00:57,058 Not a morning person? 20 00:00:57,099 --> 00:00:58,476 Oh, I love a morning. 21 00:00:58,517 --> 00:01:01,729 4:00 a.m.? Still last night. 22 00:01:01,771 --> 00:01:03,014 What are we looking at? 23 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:05,232 Oh, DOA, took one in the chest. 24 00:01:05,274 --> 00:01:06,984 No wallet, no phone. 25 00:01:07,026 --> 00:01:09,195 Bodega owner down the street heard the shot around 2:00 a.m. 26 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:10,905 and called it in but didn't see anything. 27 00:01:10,946 --> 00:01:12,365 Okay. 28 00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:13,741 Pricey clothes. 29 00:01:13,783 --> 00:01:15,201 Bet he had an expensive watch too. 30 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:16,535 Yeah. 31 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:17,828 Could be looking at an old-fashioned robbery. 32 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:19,330 - Maybe. - Detectives. 33 00:01:19,372 --> 00:01:20,873 We found this in the bushes over there. 34 00:01:20,915 --> 00:01:22,958 - Thank you. - Empty. 35 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,961 So the killer took the cash, tossed the wallet. 36 00:01:26,003 --> 00:01:27,463 Evan Marks. 37 00:01:29,131 --> 00:01:31,801 - The tech guy. - CEO of VenZip? 38 00:01:31,842 --> 00:01:34,887 Damn, VenZip is how I pay for everything these days. 39 00:01:34,929 --> 00:01:36,555 - You don't use it? - No, man. 40 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,516 I'm not trusting my bank info to an app. 41 00:01:38,557 --> 00:01:40,351 [LAUGHS] 42 00:01:40,393 --> 00:01:43,104 Okay, so the headquarters is across the street. 43 00:01:43,145 --> 00:01:45,773 He's at the office late. 44 00:01:45,815 --> 00:01:48,442 The guy's a billionaire, bragging about the fact 45 00:01:48,484 --> 00:01:51,278 that he's about to single- handedly make cash obsolete. 46 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,822 So what's a guy like that doing at an ATM 47 00:01:52,863 --> 00:01:54,198 at 2:00 in the morning? 48 00:01:57,451 --> 00:02:00,621 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 49 00:02:00,663 --> 00:02:04,022 ♪ ♪ 50 00:02:34,819 --> 00:02:38,819 - Synced and corrected by synk - - www.addic7ed.com - 51 00:02:43,706 --> 00:02:45,499 Bank records confirm Evan Marks 52 00:02:45,541 --> 00:02:47,668 made a withdrawal from the ATM just before the shooting. 53 00:02:47,710 --> 00:02:48,711 Thanks. 54 00:02:48,753 --> 00:02:51,547 2 grand, maximum amount allowed. 55 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:53,215 That's a lot of money for that hour of night. 56 00:02:53,257 --> 00:02:54,675 Mm. 57 00:02:54,717 --> 00:02:56,385 We're agreeing to call it night now. 58 00:02:56,427 --> 00:02:58,596 Hey, does anyone know who James Sawyer is? 59 00:02:58,637 --> 00:03:00,306 Yeah, he's like a god in the tech world. 60 00:03:00,348 --> 00:03:02,558 Well, apparently, he is also a co-founder 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,060 of our vic's company. 62 00:03:04,101 --> 00:03:06,479 Evan Marks and James Sawyer are like the dream team 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,523 of Silicon Valley... or at least they were. 64 00:03:09,565 --> 00:03:11,901 Well, Sawyer just posted this on his social media. 65 00:03:11,942 --> 00:03:14,528 "Evan Marks was one of the greatest minds 66 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,406 "of our generation. The NYPD should be ashamed. 67 00:03:17,448 --> 00:03:19,408 "Violent street crime is out of control, 68 00:03:19,450 --> 00:03:22,578 and Evan's blood is on their hands." 69 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:24,705 So Marks's murder is somehow our fault now? 70 00:03:24,747 --> 00:03:27,541 Well, apparently, according to James Sawyer, it is. 71 00:03:27,583 --> 00:03:29,418 And that guy has got millions of followers 72 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:30,961 that worship him as a genius. 73 00:03:31,003 --> 00:03:33,714 And every one of them is reposting this nonsense. 74 00:03:33,756 --> 00:03:35,716 Look, we gotta wrap this up. What do we got? 75 00:03:35,758 --> 00:03:37,677 We tried pinging Marks's stolen phone, 76 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:39,845 but we didn't get anything. Killer likely turned it off. 77 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:42,223 Still canvassing for video, but so far, nothing. 78 00:03:42,264 --> 00:03:43,974 But he still slipped up. 79 00:03:44,016 --> 00:03:45,393 Techs were able to lift a partial print 80 00:03:45,434 --> 00:03:48,020 from Marks's wallet, and I got a hit. 81 00:03:48,062 --> 00:03:50,439 Blake Hughes, also known as G-Ticket. 82 00:03:50,481 --> 00:03:52,066 - G-Ticket? - He's a rapper. 83 00:03:52,108 --> 00:03:55,111 And it actually looks like he's pretty popular on SoundCloud. 84 00:03:55,152 --> 00:03:58,030 But what is of interest is his list of priors... 85 00:03:58,072 --> 00:04:01,450 possession with intent to sell, aggravated assault, 86 00:04:01,492 --> 00:04:02,952 robbery in the first degree. 87 00:04:02,993 --> 00:04:04,787 Go, go. 88 00:04:07,957 --> 00:04:11,002 [HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING INDISTINCTLY] 89 00:04:11,043 --> 00:04:15,131 ♪ ♪ 90 00:04:15,172 --> 00:04:17,925 That part was fire. 91 00:04:17,967 --> 00:04:19,218 Yo, yo, yo. What's going on? Can I help you? 92 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:20,553 Yeah, NYPD, my guy. 93 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:22,096 We need to talk to your friend right there. 94 00:04:22,138 --> 00:04:24,598 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 95 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,642 - Come on. Let's go. - Oh, come on. 96 00:04:28,978 --> 00:04:30,813 - Hey! - Yo! 97 00:04:30,855 --> 00:04:32,753 ♪ ♪ 98 00:04:40,322 --> 00:04:42,908 [GROANS] Get off me! 99 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:44,368 - I ain't done nothing. - Yeah? 100 00:04:44,410 --> 00:04:45,411 Well, we both know that's not true. 101 00:04:45,453 --> 00:04:47,121 Just stop, all right? Stop. 102 00:04:47,163 --> 00:04:48,414 Stop. 103 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:52,752 Give me your arm. Give me your arm. 104 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:55,004 Well, this looks like 2,000 bucks. 105 00:04:55,046 --> 00:04:59,258 Blake Hughes, you're under arrest. 106 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,135 We know it was you. 107 00:05:01,177 --> 00:05:03,387 Your cell phone data puts you in the Meatpacking District 108 00:05:03,429 --> 00:05:04,889 last night, right around the area 109 00:05:04,930 --> 00:05:06,057 Marks was murdered. 110 00:05:06,098 --> 00:05:07,558 We got your fingerprints on his wallet. 111 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,684 We caught you with his phone and his watch. 112 00:05:08,726 --> 00:05:10,519 Nah, man, that ain't it. 113 00:05:10,561 --> 00:05:14,231 Look, I was there, but... 114 00:05:14,273 --> 00:05:15,941 I knew the guy. We were friends. 115 00:05:15,983 --> 00:05:17,610 Oh, you and Evan Marks were friends. 116 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:18,944 I gotta hear this one. 117 00:05:18,986 --> 00:05:20,696 We met last year at Coachella. 118 00:05:20,738 --> 00:05:22,031 He was a fan of my music. 119 00:05:22,073 --> 00:05:23,616 All right, so what were you doing 120 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:25,451 outside his place of business at 2:00 a.m. last night? 121 00:05:25,493 --> 00:05:27,828 He asked me to come meet him. 122 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:31,457 He... he would buy off of me sometimes. 123 00:05:31,499 --> 00:05:33,209 Dude love to party. 124 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:34,669 I mean, party. 125 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:36,671 Like, he wanted ketamine, acid, shrooms. 126 00:05:36,712 --> 00:05:38,673 Okay, so you were there to sell him drugs. 127 00:05:38,714 --> 00:05:40,132 Just so we're clear, I'm out of that game. 128 00:05:40,190 --> 00:05:42,051 - [LAUGHS] - Clearly. 129 00:05:42,093 --> 00:05:44,220 I would make an exception for Evan. 130 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:46,305 That stuff you found, I mean, I only had it 131 00:05:46,347 --> 00:05:49,517 because I wanted to stay on his good side, you know? 132 00:05:49,558 --> 00:05:53,187 Look, I was hoping he'd give me money to... 133 00:05:53,229 --> 00:05:54,522 to produce my album. 134 00:05:54,563 --> 00:05:56,607 Okay, so just help me out. 135 00:05:56,649 --> 00:05:58,192 What went wrong? Why did you shoot him? 136 00:05:58,234 --> 00:05:59,443 I didn't. 137 00:05:59,485 --> 00:06:01,112 When I got there, he was already 138 00:06:01,153 --> 00:06:02,613 arguing with some other guy. 139 00:06:02,655 --> 00:06:04,532 So I didn't wanna get involved. 140 00:06:04,573 --> 00:06:06,450 I hung back, stayed out of sight. 141 00:06:06,492 --> 00:06:07,868 They started yelling at each other. 142 00:06:07,910 --> 00:06:09,662 Next thing I knew, there was a gunshot, 143 00:06:09,704 --> 00:06:11,330 and the other dude ran off. 144 00:06:11,372 --> 00:06:14,333 And how did you end up with Marks's money and his watch? 145 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:17,545 After the guy ran away, I went to go check on Evan, 146 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:19,338 see if he was okay. 147 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:22,591 But he was already dead. 148 00:06:22,633 --> 00:06:25,511 So you're telling me you robbed your dead friend? 149 00:06:25,553 --> 00:06:28,556 Look, I'm not proud of it, but studio time is expensive. 150 00:06:28,597 --> 00:06:30,391 All right, in any event, 151 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:31,434 you didn't happen to get a good look 152 00:06:31,475 --> 00:06:33,060 at this other guy, did you? 153 00:06:33,102 --> 00:06:36,647 No, but I did overhear some of their conversation. 154 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:38,441 Their argument, they were... 155 00:06:39,775 --> 00:06:42,236 They were fighting over a woman. 156 00:06:42,278 --> 00:06:43,529 What makes you say that? 157 00:06:43,571 --> 00:06:46,407 The dude said, "You turned her against me," 158 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:47,908 or something like that. 159 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:52,121 And Marks was all, "She doesn't need you anymore." 160 00:06:52,163 --> 00:06:55,082 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 161 00:06:55,124 --> 00:06:59,086 ♪ ♪ 162 00:06:59,128 --> 00:07:00,588 We found some pretty raunchy texts 163 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:02,673 between you and Evan Marks. 164 00:07:02,715 --> 00:07:05,134 What was the nature of your relationship with him? 165 00:07:05,176 --> 00:07:06,177 Oh, God. 166 00:07:06,218 --> 00:07:08,346 I've known Evan forever. 167 00:07:08,387 --> 00:07:11,140 We first met in Aspen, I think. 168 00:07:11,182 --> 00:07:13,768 Were you two romantically involved? 169 00:07:13,809 --> 00:07:16,479 You mean, were we sleeping together? 170 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,481 Yeah, sometimes. 171 00:07:18,522 --> 00:07:21,400 But we weren't dating or anything. 172 00:07:21,442 --> 00:07:24,820 It was just two friends exploring, 173 00:07:24,862 --> 00:07:26,906 finding joy together. 174 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:29,200 You know anybody who might have been jealous of this joy? 175 00:07:29,241 --> 00:07:32,411 Jealous of me and Evan sleeping together? 176 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:33,454 No. 177 00:07:33,496 --> 00:07:34,872 Hey, Lace. 178 00:07:34,914 --> 00:07:36,207 I have to be at the gallery till 3:00, 179 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,459 so I picked us up some lunch. 180 00:07:38,501 --> 00:07:40,211 Afternoon. 181 00:07:40,252 --> 00:07:41,545 What's going on? 182 00:07:41,587 --> 00:07:45,508 Detective Riley. This is Detective Shaw. 183 00:07:45,549 --> 00:07:46,550 And you are? 184 00:07:46,592 --> 00:07:48,135 Craig Walsh. 185 00:07:48,177 --> 00:07:49,277 Is this about Evan? 186 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:51,180 It is. 187 00:07:51,222 --> 00:07:52,306 How well do you know him? 188 00:07:52,348 --> 00:07:53,766 Mm, well. 189 00:07:53,808 --> 00:07:55,017 He officiated our wedding. 190 00:07:57,687 --> 00:07:59,980 - You guys are married? - Yeah. 191 00:08:00,022 --> 00:08:03,984 Mr. Walsh, where were you last night around 2:00 a.m.? 192 00:08:04,026 --> 00:08:05,143 [SCOFFS] 193 00:08:07,113 --> 00:08:08,572 I want a lawyer. 194 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:12,702 Magic word, okay. Call him to the precinct. 195 00:08:12,743 --> 00:08:17,081 ♪ ♪ 196 00:08:21,035 --> 00:08:22,430 Spoke to your doorman. 197 00:08:22,578 --> 00:08:23,955 According to him, you and your wife 198 00:08:23,996 --> 00:08:26,374 didn't get home last night until after 4:00 a.m. 199 00:08:26,415 --> 00:08:28,751 Which does not look good since Marks 200 00:08:28,793 --> 00:08:30,044 was killed around 2:00. 201 00:08:30,086 --> 00:08:31,921 I would never kill Evan. 202 00:08:31,963 --> 00:08:33,422 I loved the guy. 203 00:08:33,464 --> 00:08:34,465 Bet you didn't love him 204 00:08:34,507 --> 00:08:35,675 sleeping with your wife, though, huh? 205 00:08:35,716 --> 00:08:39,303 Lacy and I have an open marriage. 206 00:08:39,345 --> 00:08:41,013 Okay. 207 00:08:41,055 --> 00:08:43,849 Then where were you last night? 208 00:08:43,891 --> 00:08:45,810 It'll be fine. Just tell them. 209 00:08:45,851 --> 00:08:47,895 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 210 00:08:47,937 --> 00:08:51,357 I was at the VenZip offices. So was Lacy. 211 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:53,150 So you were with him Evan Marks. 212 00:08:53,192 --> 00:08:54,944 And a lot of other people. 213 00:08:54,986 --> 00:08:56,153 There was a party. 214 00:08:56,195 --> 00:08:58,239 Oh, yeah? What kind of party was that? 215 00:09:01,325 --> 00:09:04,120 There's an underground scene for people 216 00:09:04,161 --> 00:09:06,914 of a certain caliber. 217 00:09:06,956 --> 00:09:08,457 It's called the Lifestyle. 218 00:09:08,499 --> 00:09:11,294 - Lifestyle? - I did not name it. 219 00:09:11,335 --> 00:09:13,796 Evan was super into the whole thing. 220 00:09:13,838 --> 00:09:16,841 It was his idea to throw one of the parties at his office. 221 00:09:16,882 --> 00:09:19,218 You know, you really didn't need a lawyer to tell us this. 222 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:23,472 We're talking about an invite-only situation here. 223 00:09:23,514 --> 00:09:26,100 And people that attend these things are big time. 224 00:09:26,142 --> 00:09:28,603 Guests have to sign a non-disclosure agreement. 225 00:09:28,644 --> 00:09:30,313 I wanted to make sure I wouldn't get in trouble. 226 00:09:30,354 --> 00:09:32,315 And what kind of things are going on at this party 227 00:09:32,356 --> 00:09:33,774 that people have to sign an NDA? 228 00:09:33,816 --> 00:09:35,151 Nothing bad. 229 00:09:35,192 --> 00:09:38,321 It's just a way to create safe space for powerful 230 00:09:38,362 --> 00:09:40,990 and, you know, famous people to relax, 231 00:09:41,032 --> 00:09:45,161 expanding the mind to break old paradigms. 232 00:09:45,202 --> 00:09:47,830 And by expanding the mind, you mean... 233 00:09:47,872 --> 00:09:49,916 taking ketamine, mushrooms? 234 00:09:52,043 --> 00:09:53,419 We're Homicide detectives, okay? 235 00:09:53,461 --> 00:09:54,921 We're not here to bust you for recreational drug use. 236 00:09:54,962 --> 00:09:56,714 Yeah. 237 00:09:56,756 --> 00:09:59,050 Everyone parties. 238 00:09:59,091 --> 00:10:01,218 And at some point, Evan got worried 239 00:10:01,260 --> 00:10:03,679 supplies were running low, so he left for a re-up. 240 00:10:03,721 --> 00:10:06,182 But he never came back. 241 00:10:06,223 --> 00:10:08,184 Then someone looked down and saw 242 00:10:08,225 --> 00:10:10,227 the police cars on the street. 243 00:10:12,730 --> 00:10:15,191 Everyone freaked out. 244 00:10:15,232 --> 00:10:18,319 So we left out the back exit of the building. 245 00:10:18,361 --> 00:10:20,947 Well, the point is, my client and his wife 246 00:10:20,988 --> 00:10:23,199 were in the VenZip offices on the 27th floor 247 00:10:23,241 --> 00:10:24,742 when Evan Marks was shot. 248 00:10:24,784 --> 00:10:28,204 No, the point is, Counselor, your client has to prove it. 249 00:10:29,997 --> 00:10:32,875 [UPBEAT DANCE MUSIC PLAYING] 250 00:10:32,917 --> 00:10:35,659 ♪ ♪ 251 00:10:40,049 --> 00:10:42,529 The planet is gonna run 252 00:10:42,553 --> 00:10:46,097 out of water, like, soon. 253 00:10:46,138 --> 00:10:50,476 That's something everyone needs to survive. 254 00:10:50,518 --> 00:10:55,314 Whoever figures that out is gonna make a lot of money. 255 00:10:55,356 --> 00:10:59,402 - And change the world. - And change the world. 256 00:10:59,443 --> 00:11:01,237 That's the video Craig Walsh shot at the party. 257 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:02,405 People are higher than 258 00:11:02,446 --> 00:11:03,572 the Chrysler Building in that thing. 259 00:11:03,614 --> 00:11:05,408 Maybe so, but the time stamp proves 260 00:11:05,449 --> 00:11:07,535 that they were at the party when Marks was shot. 261 00:11:07,577 --> 00:11:11,914 So if Marks was killed over a woman, it wasn't Lacy Stevens. 262 00:11:11,956 --> 00:11:13,749 Doesn't look like it. 263 00:11:13,791 --> 00:11:16,836 Yeah, but those Lifestyle parties are basically just 264 00:11:16,877 --> 00:11:18,879 orgies for tech nerds, right? 265 00:11:18,921 --> 00:11:20,172 Odds are Lacy wasn't the only one 266 00:11:20,214 --> 00:11:21,841 he was romantically involved with. 267 00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:23,301 - [KNOCKING] - Hey. 268 00:11:23,342 --> 00:11:25,469 I scrubbed through Marks's phone and email 269 00:11:25,511 --> 00:11:27,722 like you asked, looking for other possible girlfriends, 270 00:11:27,763 --> 00:11:29,599 and I might have something. 271 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,184 I found several references to a woman named Eva, 272 00:11:32,226 --> 00:11:34,186 messages that he sent to friends saying 273 00:11:34,228 --> 00:11:35,896 he couldn't wait to introduce them to her. 274 00:11:35,938 --> 00:11:37,857 - You get a last name? - Negative. 275 00:11:37,898 --> 00:11:40,610 And I also couldn't find any Eva in his contact lists. 276 00:11:40,651 --> 00:11:42,612 What's the over/under this Eva also has a husband? 277 00:11:42,653 --> 00:11:44,447 You know, Craig Walsh did eventually give up 278 00:11:44,488 --> 00:11:46,949 the contact info for the woman who runs the invite list 279 00:11:46,991 --> 00:11:48,075 for those Lifestyle parties. 280 00:11:48,117 --> 00:11:49,660 Let's go talk to her. 281 00:11:49,702 --> 00:11:53,164 If she made up the guest list, maybe she knows who Eva is. 282 00:11:56,292 --> 00:11:57,835 Never heard of her. 283 00:11:57,877 --> 00:11:59,879 But you're the one who puts these parties together, right? 284 00:11:59,921 --> 00:12:01,756 I'm not a party promoter. 285 00:12:01,797 --> 00:12:04,133 I'm a psychedelic doula. 286 00:12:04,175 --> 00:12:05,801 And that entails what, exactly? 287 00:12:05,843 --> 00:12:09,555 I curate bespoke experiences for high-end clients 288 00:12:09,597 --> 00:12:12,266 interested in exploring the psychological 289 00:12:12,308 --> 00:12:15,186 and intellectual benefits of psychotropic substances. 290 00:12:15,227 --> 00:12:16,771 You do realize that those substances 291 00:12:16,812 --> 00:12:18,105 are against the law? 292 00:12:18,147 --> 00:12:20,149 I neither provide nor partake myself. 293 00:12:20,191 --> 00:12:22,735 Everything I do is perfectly legal. 294 00:12:22,777 --> 00:12:26,155 Clients come to me, and I coordinate groups whose auras 295 00:12:26,197 --> 00:12:28,991 are a good match and make arrangements for them 296 00:12:29,033 --> 00:12:31,452 to exchange energies and ideas. 297 00:12:31,494 --> 00:12:35,414 This aura matching, it never involved a woman named Eva? 298 00:12:35,456 --> 00:12:36,749 No. 299 00:12:36,791 --> 00:12:38,125 What about any men that might have had an issue 300 00:12:38,167 --> 00:12:40,336 with Marks's relationships with other women? 301 00:12:40,378 --> 00:12:42,338 Evan did mention that earlier that day 302 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:44,882 he'd gotten into a big fight with James, 303 00:12:44,924 --> 00:12:46,050 his business partner. 304 00:12:46,092 --> 00:12:47,677 - You mean James Sawyer? - Yeah. 305 00:12:47,718 --> 00:12:49,804 Evan said the fight was intense. 306 00:12:49,845 --> 00:12:52,723 Apparently, James was so upset he punched a hole in the wall. 307 00:12:52,765 --> 00:12:54,725 Did Evan ever tell you what the fight was about? 308 00:12:54,767 --> 00:12:57,186 No, but I do know that James does not 309 00:12:57,228 --> 00:12:59,355 approve of the Lifestyle. 310 00:12:59,397 --> 00:13:01,565 He's very uptight... 311 00:13:01,607 --> 00:13:04,277 much more the type to be territorial over a woman. 312 00:13:08,030 --> 00:13:10,783 I'm sorry, Mr. Sawyer, but your plane's been grounded, 313 00:13:10,825 --> 00:13:11,951 and I'm being told to wait. 314 00:13:11,993 --> 00:13:13,953 I wanna talk to your manager. 315 00:13:13,995 --> 00:13:16,664 You can talk to us. 316 00:13:16,706 --> 00:13:19,667 Hi. Detective Riley. This is Detective Shaw. 317 00:13:19,709 --> 00:13:21,168 We tried stopping by your office, 318 00:13:21,210 --> 00:13:22,211 and your assistant told us were making 319 00:13:22,253 --> 00:13:23,337 a little unexpected trip. 320 00:13:23,379 --> 00:13:24,589 Did you ground my plane? 321 00:13:24,630 --> 00:13:25,798 It seems like you're in a rush. 322 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,342 - Where you headed? - Why does that matter? 323 00:13:28,384 --> 00:13:30,219 Let's go have a little talk over here, okay? 324 00:13:33,014 --> 00:13:35,057 Word on the street is that you and Evan Marks 325 00:13:35,099 --> 00:13:36,726 had quite the fight last night. 326 00:13:36,767 --> 00:13:39,353 We had an argument. It's not uncommon. 327 00:13:39,395 --> 00:13:40,938 We're both passionate people. 328 00:13:40,980 --> 00:13:42,315 You guys argue about a woman? 329 00:13:42,356 --> 00:13:44,233 A woman? No. 330 00:13:44,275 --> 00:13:46,319 If word got out that the C-suite is throwing 331 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,738 drug-fueled sex parties at corporate HQ, 332 00:13:48,779 --> 00:13:50,072 it's gonna be a problem. 333 00:13:50,114 --> 00:13:51,616 Marks didn't agree? 334 00:13:51,657 --> 00:13:53,284 Evan didn't care that his Burning Man nonsense 335 00:13:53,326 --> 00:13:55,286 doesn't exactly fly with investors. 336 00:13:55,328 --> 00:13:57,788 But if you think I had anything to do 337 00:13:57,830 --> 00:14:00,124 with what happened, you're crazy. 338 00:14:00,166 --> 00:14:02,418 Evan wasn't just my business partner. 339 00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,961 He was my best friend. 340 00:14:04,003 --> 00:14:07,256 If you had nothing to do with his murder, why skip town? 341 00:14:07,298 --> 00:14:09,467 I'm not skipping town. 342 00:14:09,508 --> 00:14:12,595 I'm flying to San Francisco to meet with a crisis PR team. 343 00:14:12,637 --> 00:14:15,306 Evan's death sent the company's stock into a spiral. 344 00:14:15,348 --> 00:14:16,724 I'm gonna go mitigate the fallout. 345 00:14:16,766 --> 00:14:18,267 All right, where were you last night? 346 00:14:18,309 --> 00:14:21,020 D.C. Flew back this morning. 347 00:14:21,062 --> 00:14:24,607 Look, Evan was like a brother to me, 348 00:14:24,649 --> 00:14:26,984 which meant sometimes we fought like brothers too. 349 00:14:27,026 --> 00:14:29,904 You guys ever fight over Eva? 350 00:14:29,946 --> 00:14:31,614 Eva? 351 00:14:31,656 --> 00:14:34,116 No, that was completely under Evan's purview. 352 00:14:34,158 --> 00:14:36,661 I didn't really get involved. 353 00:14:36,702 --> 00:14:38,537 What does Eva have to do with any of this? 354 00:14:38,579 --> 00:14:40,581 You tell us. We don't even know who she is. 355 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:44,752 Eva isn't a woman. 356 00:14:44,794 --> 00:14:46,796 She's a software program, 357 00:14:46,837 --> 00:14:49,257 specifically artificial intelligence. 358 00:14:49,298 --> 00:14:52,218 She's the most advanced AI ever achieved. 359 00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:56,722 ♪ ♪ 360 00:15:02,513 --> 00:15:05,240 Allow me to introduce you to EVA, 361 00:15:05,265 --> 00:15:07,935 short for Electronic Virtual Assistant. 362 00:15:07,977 --> 00:15:09,895 She's artificial intelligence on a level 363 00:15:09,937 --> 00:15:12,314 no one's ever seen before. 364 00:15:12,356 --> 00:15:14,483 You and Evan Marks ever have any disagreements 365 00:15:14,525 --> 00:15:17,236 about her or it? 366 00:15:17,278 --> 00:15:18,862 Research shows that people prefer 367 00:15:18,904 --> 00:15:21,699 giving artificial intelligence a female name and pronouns. 368 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:23,117 Makes it less creepy. 369 00:15:23,158 --> 00:15:25,160 You still didn't answer my question. 370 00:15:25,202 --> 00:15:27,413 No, I didn't have any problems with Evan 371 00:15:27,454 --> 00:15:29,123 wanting to implement EVA. 372 00:15:29,164 --> 00:15:31,542 Honestly, I think it's exciting. 373 00:15:31,583 --> 00:15:33,002 But it was controversial. 374 00:15:33,043 --> 00:15:35,129 There are definitely people who felt differently. 375 00:15:35,170 --> 00:15:37,172 What was Evan Marks doing that was so controversial? 376 00:15:37,214 --> 00:15:39,508 As the name implies, EVA was initially designed 377 00:15:39,550 --> 00:15:41,760 to assist our engineers and programmers. 378 00:15:41,802 --> 00:15:43,929 But she's self-learning. 379 00:15:43,971 --> 00:15:46,932 And within months, she advanced exponentially 380 00:15:46,974 --> 00:15:48,642 beyond her initial capabilities. 381 00:15:48,684 --> 00:15:51,603 The program is self-iterative, and its processes operate 382 00:15:51,645 --> 00:15:54,023 in a kind of black box. 383 00:15:54,064 --> 00:15:55,858 There's no real way for us to track what algorithms 384 00:15:55,899 --> 00:15:57,484 she's using to evolve. 385 00:15:57,526 --> 00:16:00,529 Not my area of expertise, but doesn't that seem concerning? 386 00:16:00,571 --> 00:16:02,156 Hence the controversy. 387 00:16:02,197 --> 00:16:03,324 Aren't there regulations in place 388 00:16:03,365 --> 00:16:05,159 - around this kind of thing? - Not really. 389 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,910 Evan was a big proponent of seeing 390 00:16:06,952 --> 00:16:09,496 how far EVA could go on her own. 391 00:16:09,538 --> 00:16:11,790 The goal is for her to assist the engineers and programmers, 392 00:16:11,832 --> 00:16:14,293 but she can actually do their jobs. 393 00:16:14,335 --> 00:16:15,544 Except faster. 394 00:16:15,586 --> 00:16:16,879 And for free. 395 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,672 That must have pissed off a lot of employees. 396 00:16:18,714 --> 00:16:22,676 Yeah, about 200 of them. 397 00:16:22,718 --> 00:16:24,219 [ELEVATOR DINGS] 398 00:16:24,261 --> 00:16:26,430 Last week, Evan Marks fired over half 399 00:16:26,472 --> 00:16:28,974 of his company's engineers and replaced them 400 00:16:29,016 --> 00:16:31,352 with the EVA AI system. 401 00:16:31,393 --> 00:16:34,021 So you're saying that when our witness 402 00:16:34,063 --> 00:16:36,106 overheard Marks's killer say, 403 00:16:36,148 --> 00:16:37,608 "You're turning her against me," 404 00:16:37,650 --> 00:16:39,735 he was talking about a computer program? 405 00:16:39,777 --> 00:16:41,195 That's what we're thinking. 406 00:16:41,236 --> 00:16:43,364 And according to Kevin Wu, the operations manager, 407 00:16:43,405 --> 00:16:46,200 Marks was ruthless about the layoffs, right? 408 00:16:46,241 --> 00:16:48,077 He kicked out 200 employees on their asses 409 00:16:48,118 --> 00:16:49,828 just like that without warning. 410 00:16:49,870 --> 00:16:52,539 According to him, the future left these people behind. 411 00:16:52,581 --> 00:16:54,416 All that mind expanding he had done 412 00:16:54,458 --> 00:16:56,460 led him to innovating beyond human empathy. 413 00:16:56,502 --> 00:16:58,712 That's a lot of suspects to sort through. 414 00:16:58,754 --> 00:17:00,005 It is. 415 00:17:00,047 --> 00:17:01,799 However, we can put one of those suspects 416 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,092 at the crime scene. 417 00:17:03,133 --> 00:17:04,635 So Wu gave us all the data he had 418 00:17:04,677 --> 00:17:06,679 on all the fired employees, and it turns out, 419 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,140 the former chief programmer Ben Stafford 420 00:17:10,182 --> 00:17:13,394 used his key card at the VenZip offices 421 00:17:13,435 --> 00:17:15,604 the night Marks was murdered. 422 00:17:15,646 --> 00:17:17,523 We checked with our psychedelic doula friend too. 423 00:17:17,564 --> 00:17:19,275 She confirmed he definitely was not 424 00:17:19,316 --> 00:17:21,235 on the list for the Lifestyle party that night. 425 00:17:21,277 --> 00:17:23,404 I can do you one better. Listen to this. 426 00:17:23,445 --> 00:17:25,072 Stafford posted this on his social media 427 00:17:25,114 --> 00:17:26,490 the day before the murder. 428 00:17:26,532 --> 00:17:28,867 "Evan Marks will be the downfall of humanity 429 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:30,327 "as we know it. 430 00:17:30,369 --> 00:17:34,248 He's a plague that needs to be eradicated immediately." 431 00:17:34,290 --> 00:17:36,292 That's enough for a search warrant. 432 00:17:36,333 --> 00:17:38,252 Why don't you see what you can turn up? 433 00:17:38,294 --> 00:17:40,963 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 434 00:17:41,005 --> 00:17:42,214 No, no, no, don't touch that. 435 00:17:42,256 --> 00:17:43,882 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. All right? 436 00:17:43,924 --> 00:17:45,467 Just stay where you are. 437 00:17:45,509 --> 00:17:47,094 This is insane. 438 00:17:47,136 --> 00:17:48,679 I was just blowing off steam. 439 00:17:48,721 --> 00:17:51,223 I wasn't saying I was actually gonna kill him. 440 00:17:51,265 --> 00:17:52,725 Then what were you doing at the VenZip offices 441 00:17:52,766 --> 00:17:54,059 the night of the murder? 442 00:17:54,101 --> 00:17:55,728 I... I don't know what you're talking about. 443 00:17:55,769 --> 00:17:57,187 - Right. - Detectives? 444 00:17:57,229 --> 00:17:59,732 We found this in the dumpster behind the building. 445 00:17:59,773 --> 00:18:01,650 - 9 millimeter. - Yep. 446 00:18:01,692 --> 00:18:03,652 That means we're gonna finish this little conversation 447 00:18:03,694 --> 00:18:05,446 of ours downtown, okay? 448 00:18:05,487 --> 00:18:07,781 Let's go. 449 00:18:07,823 --> 00:18:10,618 Ballistic tests prove that the gun that we found 450 00:18:10,659 --> 00:18:13,454 was the one used to kill Marks, the guy who had just fired you. 451 00:18:13,495 --> 00:18:15,789 We know you were there. Just tell us what happened. 452 00:18:15,831 --> 00:18:18,876 Any chance I could get some of my medication? 453 00:18:18,917 --> 00:18:20,544 Medication? You mean the, uh, 454 00:18:20,586 --> 00:18:23,631 the Adderall that we found when we searched your apartment? 455 00:18:23,672 --> 00:18:25,507 You're gonna have to produce a doctor's prescription, 456 00:18:25,549 --> 00:18:26,842 because the bottle that we found 457 00:18:26,884 --> 00:18:27,926 had no pharmacist label on it. 458 00:18:27,968 --> 00:18:30,512 I don't have a prescription. 459 00:18:30,554 --> 00:18:32,056 Then you don't get the Adderall. 460 00:18:33,432 --> 00:18:35,809 It helps me think straight. 461 00:18:35,851 --> 00:18:36,977 How about this? 462 00:18:37,019 --> 00:18:38,812 I'm happy to get you an aspirin, 463 00:18:38,854 --> 00:18:41,148 but until you start telling us the truth, 464 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:42,816 it's the best I can do. 465 00:18:42,858 --> 00:18:46,987 Ben, come on. 466 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:48,656 I'm looking at you, and I can tell 467 00:18:48,697 --> 00:18:52,242 that this is not easy to keep this all bottled up inside. 468 00:18:52,284 --> 00:18:54,036 [APPREHENSIVE MUSIC] 469 00:18:54,078 --> 00:18:56,997 You're not a bad guy, are you? 470 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:01,320 ♪ ♪ 471 00:19:02,252 --> 00:19:03,671 I brought the gun to scare him. 472 00:19:03,712 --> 00:19:06,674 I just wanted him to give everyone their jobs back. 473 00:19:06,715 --> 00:19:09,802 Guy like that, he wouldn't listen, would he? 474 00:19:09,843 --> 00:19:11,804 No. 475 00:19:11,845 --> 00:19:15,516 The only people he cares about are his rich friends. 476 00:19:15,557 --> 00:19:17,226 Because of him, hundreds of people 477 00:19:17,267 --> 00:19:18,936 aren't gonna be able to support their families. 478 00:19:18,978 --> 00:19:22,481 Meanwhile, he's just up in his office, throwing a party. 479 00:19:22,523 --> 00:19:24,358 He wouldn't even have a company 480 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,152 if it wasn't for the work we all did. 481 00:19:27,194 --> 00:19:28,696 Okay, good. 482 00:19:28,737 --> 00:19:31,699 So, you had an argument. 483 00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:34,034 Uh... 484 00:19:34,076 --> 00:19:37,329 I was so angry. 485 00:19:37,371 --> 00:19:38,914 It just wasn't fair. 486 00:19:38,956 --> 00:19:42,870 ♪ ♪ 487 00:19:44,295 --> 00:19:47,464 Next thing I knew... 488 00:19:47,841 --> 00:19:52,803 I followed him to the ATM, and I... 489 00:19:55,264 --> 00:19:56,682 I shot him. 490 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:02,229 Okay. 491 00:20:02,271 --> 00:20:03,689 I'm so sorry. 492 00:20:03,731 --> 00:20:05,274 I didn't mean to. 493 00:20:05,316 --> 00:20:06,859 - [KNOCK AT DOOR] - Come in. 494 00:20:09,945 --> 00:20:12,448 Don't say another word. 495 00:20:12,489 --> 00:20:15,743 I'm Mr. Stafford's attorney. This interview is over. 496 00:20:15,784 --> 00:20:17,911 Ben Stafford, you are under arrest 497 00:20:17,953 --> 00:20:20,164 for the murder of Evan Marks. 498 00:20:20,205 --> 00:20:21,624 You have the right to remain silent 499 00:20:21,665 --> 00:20:24,668 and refuse to answer questions, do you understand? 500 00:20:28,330 --> 00:20:29,895 People v. Benjamin Stafford, 501 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,255 charging murder in the second degree. 502 00:20:33,312 --> 00:20:35,564 How does the defendant plea? 503 00:20:35,606 --> 00:20:37,274 Not guilty, Your Honor. 504 00:20:37,316 --> 00:20:38,901 Tyrone, I'll hear you on bail. 505 00:20:38,943 --> 00:20:41,904 Your Honor, Ben Stafford shot and killed Evan Marks 506 00:20:41,946 --> 00:20:44,823 as retribution for Marks firing him. 507 00:20:44,865 --> 00:20:47,618 We cannot only place the defendant near the crime scene 508 00:20:47,660 --> 00:20:48,911 around the time of the murder 509 00:20:48,953 --> 00:20:50,663 and tie the murder weapon to him, 510 00:20:50,704 --> 00:20:54,375 but Stafford himself confessed to detectives. 511 00:20:54,416 --> 00:20:56,794 Stafford lacks deep ties to the community 512 00:20:56,835 --> 00:21:00,005 and is facing a potential 25-year sentence, 513 00:21:00,047 --> 00:21:02,216 making him a serious flight risk. 514 00:21:02,258 --> 00:21:03,676 We ask for remand. 515 00:21:03,717 --> 00:21:05,594 Police coerced a false confession 516 00:21:05,636 --> 00:21:08,055 from an innocent man under extreme duress, 517 00:21:08,097 --> 00:21:10,766 an innocent man with no criminal history, I might add. 518 00:21:10,808 --> 00:21:12,268 We are confident that Mr. Stafford 519 00:21:12,309 --> 00:21:14,395 will be fully exonerated and ask that he be released 520 00:21:14,436 --> 00:21:15,521 on his own recognizance. 521 00:21:15,562 --> 00:21:17,314 Bail set at 1 million. 522 00:21:17,356 --> 00:21:19,358 [GAVEL BANGS] Next case. 523 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,486 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 524 00:21:24,863 --> 00:21:26,824 The jury is never gonna hear that confession. 525 00:21:31,579 --> 00:21:33,038 Look, how about this? 526 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,331 I'm happy to get you an aspirin, 527 00:21:34,373 --> 00:21:35,666 but until you start telling us the truth, 528 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:38,127 that's the best I can do. 529 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,006 Ben Stafford developed a physical dependency 530 00:21:42,047 --> 00:21:44,550 on Adderall as a result of the grueling hours 531 00:21:44,592 --> 00:21:46,385 and high performance expectations 532 00:21:46,427 --> 00:21:47,970 of his job at VenZip. 533 00:21:48,012 --> 00:21:50,598 During the interrogation, he was suffering from withdrawal. 534 00:21:50,639 --> 00:21:52,433 He made multiple requests for the drug. 535 00:21:52,474 --> 00:21:54,059 In the course of an interrogation, 536 00:21:54,101 --> 00:21:56,937 the suspect requested an illegally procured 537 00:21:56,979 --> 00:22:00,149 controlled substance and detectives, following protocol, 538 00:22:00,190 --> 00:22:01,567 denied the request. 539 00:22:01,609 --> 00:22:03,986 Police capitalized on my client's compromised state 540 00:22:04,028 --> 00:22:06,322 by dangling a promise of access to the pills 541 00:22:06,363 --> 00:22:07,823 in exchange for a confession. 542 00:22:07,865 --> 00:22:09,742 He would have confessed to anything in that moment 543 00:22:09,783 --> 00:22:11,410 if it meant he'd get a fix, and Detective Riley knew it. 544 00:22:11,452 --> 00:22:13,078 Riley made no such promise. 545 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,706 "Until you tell us the truth, that's the best I can do." 546 00:22:17,291 --> 00:22:18,792 It was heavily implied. 547 00:22:18,834 --> 00:22:22,630 That is a wild distortion of Detective Riley's words. 548 00:22:24,131 --> 00:22:26,175 I understand that the detective may not 549 00:22:26,216 --> 00:22:29,261 have intended to imply a quid pro quo, 550 00:22:29,303 --> 00:22:30,679 but there's sufficient evidence 551 00:22:30,721 --> 00:22:32,640 to support the argument that the defendant... 552 00:22:32,681 --> 00:22:34,099 in his altered state... 553 00:22:34,141 --> 00:22:36,810 interpreted it as such, making the confession 554 00:22:36,852 --> 00:22:40,439 involuntarily coerced and inherently unreliable. 555 00:22:40,481 --> 00:22:42,816 - Your Honor... - The confession is out. 556 00:22:42,858 --> 00:22:44,860 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 557 00:22:44,902 --> 00:22:47,613 So you have a defendant who confessed to the crime, 558 00:22:47,655 --> 00:22:50,199 but the jury doesn't get to know that. 559 00:22:50,241 --> 00:22:53,661 Can we get a conviction without the confession? 560 00:22:53,702 --> 00:22:55,246 I think so. 561 00:22:55,287 --> 00:22:58,290 Stafford's key card puts him at the VenZip offices 562 00:22:58,332 --> 00:23:00,292 right after midnight on the night of the murder. 563 00:23:00,334 --> 00:23:02,378 Marks was shot right outside the building. 564 00:23:02,419 --> 00:23:04,421 And Stafford had already cleared out his office 565 00:23:04,463 --> 00:23:06,131 the week before. 566 00:23:06,173 --> 00:23:07,675 They're gonna have trouble coming up 567 00:23:07,716 --> 00:23:09,760 with a viable explanation for him being there 568 00:23:09,802 --> 00:23:11,971 other than confronting Marks, especially at that hour. 569 00:23:12,012 --> 00:23:14,807 Plus, the murder weapon was recovered in his dumpster, 570 00:23:14,848 --> 00:23:16,308 and you add to that the clear-cut motive. 571 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:17,601 Yes, I still think we can win. 572 00:23:17,643 --> 00:23:19,812 Just be careful. 573 00:23:19,853 --> 00:23:21,772 The motive, in this case, has the potential 574 00:23:21,814 --> 00:23:23,899 to hurt as much as help. 575 00:23:23,941 --> 00:23:28,779 Fear of losing one's livelihood to AI is pervasive these days. 576 00:23:28,821 --> 00:23:31,699 All I'm saying, Nolan, is, it's gonna be easier 577 00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:33,284 to sympathize with the defendant 578 00:23:33,325 --> 00:23:37,121 than the billionaire who fired hundreds of employees. 579 00:23:37,162 --> 00:23:40,833 Humanize the victim, and remind them 580 00:23:40,874 --> 00:23:44,253 Ben Stafford is the villain in this story. 581 00:23:44,295 --> 00:23:48,048 ♪ ♪ 582 00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:51,176 Mr. Sawyer, you were present when Evan Marks notified 583 00:23:51,218 --> 00:23:53,262 the defendant that the company was letting him go, 584 00:23:53,304 --> 00:23:55,764 - is that correct? - I was. 585 00:23:55,806 --> 00:23:58,976 As co-founders, Evan and I took our responsibilities 586 00:23:59,018 --> 00:24:01,145 to our employees very seriously. 587 00:24:01,186 --> 00:24:04,732 We wanted to deliver the news as humanely as possible. 588 00:24:04,773 --> 00:24:07,109 And how did the defendant react? 589 00:24:07,151 --> 00:24:08,652 He was furious. 590 00:24:08,694 --> 00:24:12,197 He threw a fit, screaming, making threats. 591 00:24:12,239 --> 00:24:14,992 It was a lot to take given that it was his fault that 592 00:24:15,034 --> 00:24:17,119 it was happening in the first place. 593 00:24:17,161 --> 00:24:18,190 How so? 594 00:24:18,215 --> 00:24:20,080 He was the one who created EVA. 595 00:24:20,122 --> 00:24:22,875 That's the artificial intelligence program 596 00:24:22,917 --> 00:24:24,209 that the company is now using? 597 00:24:24,251 --> 00:24:26,670 Yes, we discovered that he had essentially 598 00:24:26,712 --> 00:24:29,381 designed the software to do his job for him. 599 00:24:30,382 --> 00:24:33,385 He thought he was clever, that he could just sit around 600 00:24:33,427 --> 00:24:35,804 and do nothing while collecting a big fat paycheck. 601 00:24:35,846 --> 00:24:37,598 The defendant wasn't the only employee 602 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600 that you and Marks replaced with EVA. 603 00:24:39,642 --> 00:24:41,101 Unfortunately, the software did 604 00:24:41,143 --> 00:24:43,270 make a number of jobs at the company redundant, 605 00:24:43,312 --> 00:24:46,649 and we struggled with what to do with that, 606 00:24:46,690 --> 00:24:48,359 Evan more than me, even. 607 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,820 But ultimately, he felt we had a responsibility 608 00:24:51,862 --> 00:24:54,073 to push the boundaries of science and technology 609 00:24:54,114 --> 00:24:58,827 that through innovation, some sort of utopia 610 00:24:58,869 --> 00:25:00,162 could be reached. 611 00:25:00,204 --> 00:25:01,914 When you say that the defendant 612 00:25:01,956 --> 00:25:06,627 made threats to Marks, what did he say, exactly? 613 00:25:06,669 --> 00:25:08,254 He got right up in Evan's face 614 00:25:08,295 --> 00:25:10,756 and said he was gonna pay for what he'd done. 615 00:25:10,798 --> 00:25:12,341 Thank you. 616 00:25:12,383 --> 00:25:13,842 No further questions. 617 00:25:17,721 --> 00:25:20,766 Mr. Sawyer, how would you characterize 618 00:25:20,808 --> 00:25:22,268 your relationship with Evan Marks? 619 00:25:22,309 --> 00:25:24,061 He was my best friend. 620 00:25:24,103 --> 00:25:25,771 And on the business side, 621 00:25:25,813 --> 00:25:27,356 things between you two were good? 622 00:25:27,398 --> 00:25:30,943 We had the perfect complement of skill sets. 623 00:25:30,985 --> 00:25:32,903 Evan excelled at the big picture stuff, 624 00:25:32,945 --> 00:25:34,446 while I'm good at executing. 625 00:25:34,488 --> 00:25:39,076 Mr. Sawyer, do you recognize these emails? 626 00:25:44,873 --> 00:25:47,084 It looks like correspondences between myself 627 00:25:47,126 --> 00:25:48,544 and some of our company board members. 628 00:25:48,586 --> 00:25:50,129 Objection, relevance. 629 00:25:50,170 --> 00:25:53,882 These emails establish that Mr. Sawyer is not being honest 630 00:25:53,924 --> 00:25:55,426 with the court about the state of affairs 631 00:25:55,467 --> 00:25:56,468 between him and Evan Marks. 632 00:25:56,510 --> 00:25:57,678 Overruled. 633 00:25:59,013 --> 00:26:01,307 What was the nature of these exchanges? 634 00:26:01,348 --> 00:26:03,267 I reached out to some of our board members 635 00:26:03,309 --> 00:26:05,102 to see if I could rely on their support. 636 00:26:05,144 --> 00:26:07,438 Because Evan Marks was trying 637 00:26:07,479 --> 00:26:09,148 to push you out of the company? 638 00:26:09,189 --> 00:26:10,274 Yes. 639 00:26:10,316 --> 00:26:12,151 He'd discussed that with a few people. 640 00:26:12,192 --> 00:26:14,028 He felt like you were holding him back, 641 00:26:14,069 --> 00:26:17,823 squelching his creative genius, isn't that correct? 642 00:26:17,865 --> 00:26:20,326 We were in the process of sorting it all out. 643 00:26:20,367 --> 00:26:23,662 What did you discover in your communication with the board? 644 00:26:23,704 --> 00:26:25,414 That I... 645 00:26:25,456 --> 00:26:28,709 [TENSE MUSIC] 646 00:26:28,751 --> 00:26:30,586 I didn't have the support I'd imagined. 647 00:26:30,628 --> 00:26:33,005 Meaning Marks could effectively 648 00:26:33,047 --> 00:26:35,382 fire you at any time? 649 00:26:35,424 --> 00:26:37,343 Yes. 650 00:26:37,384 --> 00:26:39,178 But now that he's dead, 651 00:26:39,219 --> 00:26:42,681 you've been appointed sole CEO, correct? 652 00:26:42,723 --> 00:26:44,683 If you're trying to imply 653 00:26:44,725 --> 00:26:47,436 that I'm the one who killed Evan, 654 00:26:47,478 --> 00:26:49,855 you're wasting your time. 655 00:26:49,897 --> 00:26:51,899 I was in D.C. the night he was shot. 656 00:26:51,941 --> 00:26:53,150 That doesn't mean you couldn't pay somebody 657 00:26:53,192 --> 00:26:54,777 - to do your dirty work. - Objection, Your Honor. 658 00:26:54,818 --> 00:26:55,945 The defense is trying to suggest... 659 00:26:55,986 --> 00:26:58,697 She's not suggesting, she's asserting. 660 00:26:58,739 --> 00:27:01,575 James Sawyer killed Evan Marks. 661 00:27:01,617 --> 00:27:03,202 - Objection. - Sustained. 662 00:27:03,244 --> 00:27:05,371 Please disregard defense counsel's statement. 663 00:27:05,412 --> 00:27:08,787 ♪ ♪ 664 00:27:12,294 --> 00:27:15,881 You hung me out to dry up there. 665 00:27:15,923 --> 00:27:17,633 I had no way of knowing they were coming for you. 666 00:27:17,675 --> 00:27:21,136 Because you didn't tell us what was really going on. 667 00:27:21,178 --> 00:27:24,598 How did the defense know about Marks's power grab? 668 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,350 Great question. 669 00:27:26,392 --> 00:27:27,768 I have no idea. 670 00:27:27,810 --> 00:27:29,520 Those were all company emails. 671 00:27:29,561 --> 00:27:31,438 Do you think Stafford hacked your server? 672 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,566 For all I know, he had EVA do it for him. 673 00:27:34,608 --> 00:27:36,860 They're trying to make it look like I killed Evan. 674 00:27:36,902 --> 00:27:39,071 That's insane. 675 00:27:39,113 --> 00:27:40,572 He's gonna get away with murder. 676 00:27:40,614 --> 00:27:43,106 ♪ ♪ 677 00:27:47,871 --> 00:27:49,915 Tell Detective Riley 678 00:27:49,957 --> 00:27:52,042 we're calling him first thing tomorrow. 679 00:27:52,084 --> 00:27:55,254 We need to refocus the jury. 680 00:27:55,296 --> 00:27:57,381 Remind them who the real killer is. 681 00:27:57,423 --> 00:28:00,301 Like it or not, Nolan, the defense just offered up 682 00:28:00,342 --> 00:28:03,804 a perfectly plausible alternative suspect. 683 00:28:10,931 --> 00:28:13,465 Detective Riley, in the course of your investigation, 684 00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:14,742 you discovered that the defendant 685 00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:16,781 had been present at the VenZip offices 686 00:28:16,806 --> 00:28:18,891 the night Evan Marks was murdered, is that correct? 687 00:28:18,916 --> 00:28:21,502 Yes, he entered the building at 12:14 a.m. 688 00:28:21,543 --> 00:28:24,088 And Evan Marks was shot right outside of there 689 00:28:24,129 --> 00:28:25,339 not long after that. 690 00:28:25,381 --> 00:28:27,132 Which is why the defendant immediately 691 00:28:27,174 --> 00:28:28,509 became a person of interest. 692 00:28:28,550 --> 00:28:30,094 We then uncovered a series of threats 693 00:28:30,135 --> 00:28:31,762 that he had made against Marks, so we executed 694 00:28:31,804 --> 00:28:33,222 a search warrant of his apartment. 695 00:28:33,263 --> 00:28:34,515 And what did you find? 696 00:28:34,556 --> 00:28:35,933 We found a 9-millimeter pistol 697 00:28:35,974 --> 00:28:37,601 in the dumpster behind his building. 698 00:28:39,603 --> 00:28:40,938 Is this the gun that you found? 699 00:28:40,979 --> 00:28:42,189 That's the one. 700 00:28:42,231 --> 00:28:45,067 And did you run ballistic tests on this gun? 701 00:28:45,109 --> 00:28:46,135 We did. 702 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,236 They confirmed that it was, in fact, 703 00:28:47,277 --> 00:28:48,404 the weapon used to kill Marks. 704 00:28:48,445 --> 00:28:50,406 Thank you. No further questions. 705 00:28:50,447 --> 00:28:53,409 [TENSE MUSIC] 706 00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:55,035 ♪ ♪ 707 00:28:55,077 --> 00:28:57,704 Is there any evidence... other than the keycard data... 708 00:28:57,746 --> 00:29:01,250 that my client was in the office that night? 709 00:29:01,291 --> 00:29:03,711 For example, security video? 710 00:29:03,752 --> 00:29:05,295 No, Evan Marks had turned off 711 00:29:05,337 --> 00:29:06,505 the security cameras that night. 712 00:29:06,547 --> 00:29:07,881 So that there would be no evidence 713 00:29:07,923 --> 00:29:10,384 of his illicit sex party filled with illegal drugs? 714 00:29:10,426 --> 00:29:12,177 Objection, calls for speculation. 715 00:29:12,219 --> 00:29:14,346 Sustained. 716 00:29:14,388 --> 00:29:16,306 Were Ben Stafford's fingerprints 717 00:29:16,348 --> 00:29:17,433 on the gun that you found? 718 00:29:17,474 --> 00:29:19,601 No, it had been wiped clean. 719 00:29:19,643 --> 00:29:20,811 No further questions. 720 00:29:23,981 --> 00:29:28,068 Detective, was the dumpster where you recovered the gun 721 00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:29,695 accessible to just anyone? 722 00:29:29,737 --> 00:29:31,280 It was not. It was behind a locked gate. 723 00:29:31,321 --> 00:29:33,282 Well, who had a key to that gate? 724 00:29:33,323 --> 00:29:34,616 Only the tenants. 725 00:29:34,658 --> 00:29:37,161 Do any of the tenants... other than Ben Stafford... 726 00:29:37,202 --> 00:29:39,329 have any ties to Evan Marks? 727 00:29:39,371 --> 00:29:40,789 None that we could ascertain. 728 00:29:40,831 --> 00:29:42,332 Thank you. 729 00:29:42,374 --> 00:29:44,126 The prosecution rests. 730 00:29:44,168 --> 00:29:46,211 You may call your first witness, Ms. Greenough. 731 00:29:46,253 --> 00:29:49,423 Your Honor, the defense calls Ben Stafford to the stand. 732 00:29:52,134 --> 00:29:54,678 I had nothing to do with what happened to Evan. 733 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,805 Then how do you explain all of the evidence 734 00:29:56,847 --> 00:29:59,099 that the prosecution has laid out? 735 00:29:59,141 --> 00:30:02,644 I'M being set up by James Sawyer again. 736 00:30:02,686 --> 00:30:04,229 What do you mean again? 737 00:30:04,271 --> 00:30:05,773 Well, about six months ago, 738 00:30:05,814 --> 00:30:07,983 James and Evan called me into a meeting. 739 00:30:08,025 --> 00:30:09,985 They were frustrated that the company's 740 00:30:10,027 --> 00:30:13,322 engineers and programmers weren't working fast enough. 741 00:30:13,363 --> 00:30:15,032 It was absurd. 742 00:30:15,074 --> 00:30:19,912 Everyone was working 16 hours a day, seven days a week. 743 00:30:19,953 --> 00:30:22,664 I had to take Adderall just to keep up. 744 00:30:22,706 --> 00:30:24,416 What did they wanna discuss? 745 00:30:24,458 --> 00:30:26,710 They wanted me to create an AI program 746 00:30:26,752 --> 00:30:30,464 to carry some of the workload, make things go faster. 747 00:30:30,506 --> 00:30:31,799 And what did you say? 748 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,593 I had real reservations about the idea. 749 00:30:34,635 --> 00:30:37,388 There were obvious ethical implications, 750 00:30:37,429 --> 00:30:39,181 but also, I didn't want to be responsible 751 00:30:39,223 --> 00:30:42,184 for putting my coworkers' jobs in jeopardy. 752 00:30:42,226 --> 00:30:44,311 But James and Evan made clear 753 00:30:44,353 --> 00:30:45,729 they'd fire me if I didn't do it. 754 00:30:45,771 --> 00:30:47,689 So you did what they demanded. 755 00:30:47,731 --> 00:30:51,026 And they ended up firing me anyway. 756 00:30:51,068 --> 00:30:53,570 And then when they fired everyone else, 757 00:30:53,612 --> 00:30:56,031 they told them that it was my fault, 758 00:30:56,791 --> 00:30:59,959 that I created EVA on my own 759 00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:02,513 so I didn't have to work. 760 00:31:02,538 --> 00:31:05,457 - They made you the fall guy. - Exactly. 761 00:31:05,499 --> 00:31:08,627 And now James Sawyer is doing it again. 762 00:31:08,669 --> 00:31:12,047 I was at home, asleep in my bed that night. 763 00:31:12,089 --> 00:31:14,216 I've never fired a gun in my life. 764 00:31:14,258 --> 00:31:16,635 But your key card... 765 00:31:16,677 --> 00:31:19,096 Easiest thing in the world to clone. 766 00:31:19,138 --> 00:31:20,681 My ten-year-old niece could do it. 767 00:31:20,723 --> 00:31:22,516 Well, what about the gun? 768 00:31:22,558 --> 00:31:24,184 It was found behind your apartment building. 769 00:31:24,226 --> 00:31:27,438 James has access to my personnel files. 770 00:31:27,479 --> 00:31:28,731 He knows where I live. 771 00:31:28,772 --> 00:31:30,899 But according to the detective, 772 00:31:30,941 --> 00:31:33,068 you need a key to access the dumpster. 773 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:35,988 Half the time nobody remembers to lock that gate, 774 00:31:36,029 --> 00:31:39,450 and even if it's locked, it's not hard to bypass. 775 00:31:39,491 --> 00:31:43,245 I swear, I'm being set up here. 776 00:31:43,287 --> 00:31:44,955 I'm innocent. 777 00:31:46,623 --> 00:31:48,417 No further questions. 778 00:31:48,459 --> 00:31:51,378 [TENSE MUSIC] 779 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:55,549 ♪ ♪ 780 00:31:55,591 --> 00:31:58,302 So... [CLEARS THROAT] 781 00:31:58,343 --> 00:31:59,803 By your own admission, 782 00:31:59,845 --> 00:32:03,182 you had plenty of reason to want Evan Marks dead. 783 00:32:03,223 --> 00:32:06,101 He fired you and made you 784 00:32:06,143 --> 00:32:07,936 the fall guy for all the other layoffs. 785 00:32:07,978 --> 00:32:10,773 And, in fact, you made multiple threats against him, 786 00:32:10,814 --> 00:32:13,150 both online and in person, isn't that true? 787 00:32:13,192 --> 00:32:16,695 Which is how James knew I'd be the perfect patsy. 788 00:32:16,737 --> 00:32:18,697 So we're to believe that James Sawyer, 789 00:32:18,739 --> 00:32:20,157 one of the most respected 790 00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:22,701 and accomplished businessmen of our time, 791 00:32:22,743 --> 00:32:25,287 somehow arranged the murder 792 00:32:25,329 --> 00:32:27,915 of his closest friend and business partner 793 00:32:27,956 --> 00:32:31,919 and then created some elaborate scheme to frame you? 794 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,962 That's who these people are. 795 00:32:34,004 --> 00:32:38,691 Evan Marks and James Sawyer, they're all monsters. 796 00:32:39,676 --> 00:32:44,426 They use honest, hard-working people as pawns. 797 00:32:44,932 --> 00:32:48,644 I'm just one more meaningless no one 798 00:32:48,685 --> 00:32:52,106 easily sacrificed so that James Sawyer 799 00:32:52,147 --> 00:32:56,652 can gain more power and more profit. 800 00:32:56,693 --> 00:32:59,822 And the thing is, guys like him, 801 00:32:59,863 --> 00:33:02,241 they always get away with it too. 802 00:33:02,282 --> 00:33:05,360 ♪ ♪ 803 00:33:09,706 --> 00:33:12,000 That was a hell of a performance. 804 00:33:12,042 --> 00:33:14,336 If I hadn't seen Stafford's confession with my own eyes... 805 00:33:14,378 --> 00:33:15,838 I know. 806 00:33:15,879 --> 00:33:18,257 - Good, caught you. - What's going on? 807 00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:19,883 There's something I need you to see. 808 00:33:19,925 --> 00:33:22,302 Is there an office we can go to? 809 00:33:22,344 --> 00:33:23,929 Our offices were in the process 810 00:33:23,971 --> 00:33:25,389 of upgrading our security system 811 00:33:25,431 --> 00:33:27,057 right before Evan was murdered. 812 00:33:27,099 --> 00:33:28,976 So I took a look at one of the new cameras 813 00:33:29,017 --> 00:33:31,311 on the exterior of the building. 814 00:33:31,353 --> 00:33:35,899 There's a direct shot of the ATM where Evan was murdered. 815 00:33:35,941 --> 00:33:38,819 How the hell did police miss that in their initial canvass? 816 00:33:38,861 --> 00:33:40,279 Camera's so tiny, you can't even see it 817 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,780 unless you to look for it. 818 00:33:41,822 --> 00:33:43,991 But it was operational that night 819 00:33:44,032 --> 00:33:45,951 even though it wasn't on the mainframe, 820 00:33:45,993 --> 00:33:48,787 meaning that it wasn't logged into the system. 821 00:33:48,829 --> 00:33:51,749 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 822 00:33:51,790 --> 00:33:55,040 ♪ ♪ 823 00:33:58,589 --> 00:34:03,552 That's Ben Stafford, clear as day. 824 00:34:03,594 --> 00:34:06,221 Oh, my God. 825 00:34:06,263 --> 00:34:08,098 We got him. 826 00:34:18,435 --> 00:34:21,508 Hey. You're in early. 827 00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:24,274 Yeah, I couldn't sleep. 828 00:34:24,316 --> 00:34:26,985 Something was bugging me. 829 00:34:27,027 --> 00:34:28,111 Look at this. 830 00:34:33,367 --> 00:34:34,952 What am I missing? 831 00:34:34,993 --> 00:34:36,453 Well, this entire trial, 832 00:34:36,495 --> 00:34:39,289 Stafford has been taking meticulous notes 833 00:34:39,331 --> 00:34:41,041 as people testify, you noticed? 834 00:34:41,083 --> 00:34:44,419 Yeah. Just figured he was... 835 00:34:44,461 --> 00:34:45,963 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 836 00:34:46,004 --> 00:34:47,714 Oh. 837 00:34:47,756 --> 00:34:50,300 Stafford is left-handed. 838 00:34:50,342 --> 00:34:52,761 But the shooter in this video is using his right hand. 839 00:34:56,265 --> 00:34:59,351 So what, you're worried the video isn't real? 840 00:34:59,393 --> 00:35:01,854 The defense blaming James Sawyer for Marks's murder 841 00:35:01,895 --> 00:35:05,107 is the top headline in news outlets across the country. 842 00:35:05,148 --> 00:35:08,360 What are the chances that Sawyer just happens 843 00:35:08,402 --> 00:35:11,405 to be the one to find the perfect piece of evidence, 844 00:35:11,446 --> 00:35:15,117 evidence that nails Stafford and clears his name? 845 00:35:15,158 --> 00:35:17,286 I get what you're saying. 846 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:20,414 He is the CEO. 847 00:35:20,455 --> 00:35:22,291 They got all kinds of security cameras. 848 00:35:22,332 --> 00:35:24,334 But he didn't find the video until yesterday? 849 00:35:24,376 --> 00:35:26,837 I know the timing is convenient, 850 00:35:26,879 --> 00:35:29,047 but it doesn't prove anything. 851 00:35:29,089 --> 00:35:30,507 No. 852 00:35:30,549 --> 00:35:34,178 But given Sawyer's access to advanced technology, 853 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:36,138 a deepfake video of this caliber 854 00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:39,141 isn't outside the realm of possibility. 855 00:35:41,310 --> 00:35:42,561 So what do you wanna do? 856 00:35:42,603 --> 00:35:46,607 I am going to ask for a continuance 857 00:35:46,648 --> 00:35:50,694 while you get clarity on the video's authenticity. 858 00:35:50,736 --> 00:35:53,780 ITB used every tool they have to analyze this thing, 859 00:35:53,822 --> 00:35:56,158 but the results were inconclusive. 860 00:35:57,784 --> 00:35:59,745 So they can't tell if it's real or fake. 861 00:35:59,786 --> 00:36:01,788 I mean, the biggest giveaway would be here. 862 00:36:01,830 --> 00:36:04,625 For whatever reason, even the most advanced AI 863 00:36:04,666 --> 00:36:07,753 still struggles to render human hands and fingers correctly. 864 00:36:07,794 --> 00:36:11,298 But from this far away and at this resolution, 865 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,175 it's impossible to zoom in enough 866 00:36:13,217 --> 00:36:15,219 to see Stafford's hands in detail. 867 00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:18,013 That could be by design to avoid detection. 868 00:36:18,055 --> 00:36:19,848 It could be. 869 00:36:19,890 --> 00:36:21,642 It could also just be a coincidence 870 00:36:21,683 --> 00:36:23,101 that the camera is that far away. 871 00:36:23,143 --> 00:36:26,230 Yeah, well, the problem is, 872 00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:29,316 the coincidences are really piling up here. 873 00:36:29,358 --> 00:36:31,068 If this is a deepfake, it is one 874 00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:32,986 of the best ones I've seen. 875 00:36:33,028 --> 00:36:36,114 But we just can't say conclusively 876 00:36:36,156 --> 00:36:38,283 one way or the other. 877 00:36:38,325 --> 00:36:39,868 [KNOCKS] Hey. 878 00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:42,496 So, um, Riley and Shaw went back out 879 00:36:42,538 --> 00:36:43,914 to the VenZip offices. 880 00:36:43,956 --> 00:36:46,124 They confirmed that there is, in fact, 881 00:36:46,166 --> 00:36:49,002 a camera on the exterior of the building facing the ATM. 882 00:36:49,044 --> 00:36:51,839 Is there any way to verify how long that camera 883 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,298 has actually been there? 884 00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:56,593 There is documentation alleging when it was installed, 885 00:36:56,635 --> 00:37:00,279 but that would be easier to manufacture 886 00:37:00,304 --> 00:37:01,348 than a video, so... 887 00:37:01,390 --> 00:37:03,851 - So no. - Correct. 888 00:37:03,892 --> 00:37:08,647 Which means we don't actually know that it's false. 889 00:37:08,689 --> 00:37:11,859 We don't know that it's real, either. 890 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:16,775 If we don't present the video, can we win? 891 00:37:17,072 --> 00:37:18,448 I'm not sure. 892 00:37:18,490 --> 00:37:21,493 It's a circumstantial case with an unlikable victim. 893 00:37:21,535 --> 00:37:26,498 And a likable defendant who acts like he's the victim. 894 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:30,294 If the defense wants to challenge the video, 895 00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:32,671 they can call an expert and debunk it. 896 00:37:32,713 --> 00:37:34,590 Jack, we don't know if it's actually real. 897 00:37:34,631 --> 00:37:35,924 It's up to the judge. 898 00:37:35,966 --> 00:37:37,551 He can deny its admission, 899 00:37:37,593 --> 00:37:40,095 or he can leave it up to the jury. 900 00:37:40,137 --> 00:37:42,639 But by presenting it, we're vouching for it. 901 00:37:44,057 --> 00:37:48,353 We are telling the jury we believe it's real. 902 00:37:48,395 --> 00:37:50,063 I know Stafford is guilty. 903 00:37:50,105 --> 00:37:52,649 He confessed, for God's sake, but if we don't start drawing 904 00:37:52,691 --> 00:37:55,611 the line between what's real and what's not, 905 00:37:55,652 --> 00:37:59,573 we'll be contributing to the very problem that could... 906 00:37:59,615 --> 00:38:02,576 hell, if every deepfake video is admissible, 907 00:38:02,618 --> 00:38:04,912 we'll never get another conviction. 908 00:38:04,953 --> 00:38:08,081 All the defense has to do is show some perfectly credible 909 00:38:08,123 --> 00:38:10,125 video that disproves our case. 910 00:38:10,167 --> 00:38:12,920 We have a duty here. 911 00:38:12,961 --> 00:38:16,882 Our duty is to the truth, and the truth, in this case, 912 00:38:16,924 --> 00:38:20,385 is that Ben Stafford murdered Evan Marks. 913 00:38:20,427 --> 00:38:22,763 [APPREHENSIVE MUSIC] 914 00:38:22,804 --> 00:38:25,307 Use the video. 915 00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:28,477 End of the day, it's up to the jury 916 00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:31,939 to determine what the truth is. 917 00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:35,323 ♪ ♪ 918 00:38:40,113 --> 00:38:41,406 That's... that's not me. 919 00:38:41,448 --> 00:38:43,283 That's... no, I don't... 920 00:38:43,325 --> 00:38:46,495 Sorry, you're... you're saying that's not you in the video? 921 00:38:46,537 --> 00:38:47,996 Right there. 922 00:38:48,038 --> 00:38:49,623 No, I can see it's me. 923 00:38:49,665 --> 00:38:51,583 It must be a deepfake. 924 00:38:51,625 --> 00:38:55,295 So it is you, but what, it's the video that's not real? 925 00:38:55,337 --> 00:38:57,422 First off, I'm left-handed. 926 00:38:57,464 --> 00:38:58,966 But your right hand is functional. 927 00:38:59,007 --> 00:39:00,801 You can certainly shoot with that hand as well. 928 00:39:00,843 --> 00:39:02,886 Maybe, but I don't, and I didn't. 929 00:39:02,928 --> 00:39:07,307 So this video that we are all looking at with our eyes, 930 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:09,309 you're saying, well, that's not real. 931 00:39:09,351 --> 00:39:10,936 Objection, asked and answered. 932 00:39:10,978 --> 00:39:12,437 Sustained. 933 00:39:12,479 --> 00:39:14,606 You're trying to make it sound crazy, 934 00:39:14,648 --> 00:39:16,608 but with AI these days, 935 00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:18,151 you can make something like this. 936 00:39:18,193 --> 00:39:20,654 You don't even need to doctor existing video. 937 00:39:20,696 --> 00:39:22,823 You could just make it whole cloth. 938 00:39:22,865 --> 00:39:27,411 So you'd have us believe that your key card was cloned, 939 00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,163 that the murder weapon was planted, 940 00:39:29,204 --> 00:39:34,180 and now actual security footage was created from thin air 941 00:39:34,793 --> 00:39:38,422 using technology more advanced than anyone here has ever seen, 942 00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:42,259 all to frame you when the simpler, 943 00:39:42,301 --> 00:39:45,352 the more obvious answer is 944 00:39:45,376 --> 00:39:48,557 that you murdered Evan Marks. 945 00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:50,684 [TENSE MUSIC] 946 00:39:50,726 --> 00:39:53,103 Please, you have to believe me. 947 00:39:53,145 --> 00:39:57,691 Mr. Stafford, why should we believe you 948 00:39:57,733 --> 00:40:01,862 over what we can see with our own eyes? 949 00:40:01,904 --> 00:40:04,654 ♪ ♪ 950 00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:20,631 Mr. Foreperson, has the jury reached a verdict? 951 00:40:20,672 --> 00:40:22,132 We have, Your Honor. 952 00:40:22,174 --> 00:40:25,010 In the charge of murder in the second degree, 953 00:40:25,052 --> 00:40:29,348 we find the defendant, Benjamin Stafford, guilty. 954 00:40:29,389 --> 00:40:30,807 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 955 00:40:30,849 --> 00:40:32,601 thank you for your service. 956 00:40:32,643 --> 00:40:34,353 [GAVEL BANGS] 957 00:40:34,394 --> 00:40:37,253 ♪ ♪ 958 00:40:55,415 --> 00:40:59,127 It was the right verdict, put away a guilty man. 959 00:40:59,169 --> 00:41:00,921 Yeah. 960 00:41:00,963 --> 00:41:05,275 But what happens the next time or the time after that? 961 00:41:06,134 --> 00:41:08,595 This job was hard enough when we knew the difference 962 00:41:08,637 --> 00:41:11,932 between real and fake. 963 00:41:11,974 --> 00:41:13,976 But now? 964 00:41:14,001 --> 00:41:16,462 ♪ ♪ 965 00:41:19,082 --> 00:41:23,082 - Synced and corrected by synk - - www.addic7ed.com - 71834

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