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Well , it was kind of like,
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being as the Beatles
got me really reWed up for music,
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and it was just a magical time,
I mean,
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I try to tell my kids, it's like
going to bed tonight in one world,
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and waking up the ne morning
in a completely different world.
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Cos it was like, the Beatles were...
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We'd had the war
and then there was the Beatles.
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The mania was amazing.
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And they set a fire off in me
which has never gone out.
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All the Paul McCartney,
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but I didn't really think about
what a great bass player he was.
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It was just like the Beatles
as a band.
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Then when I went to see Cream ,
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I went to see it
mainly for Eric Clapton, and I saw...
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I'd never heard of Jack Bruce
and when he started playing bass
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I thought, "What the. . .?"
It just blew me away.
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About the most obvious ones
were the Beatles, for me.
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But I was brought up where my parents
played a lot of American ja
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every Saturday night.
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So, growing up as a child,
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every Saturday night
the family would have a party,
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and that's when all the big band
ja records would come out.
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The big guy for me is Gene Krupa.
Still is.
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That's it. Gene Krupa.
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My first influence was the Shadows.
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And I think the Shadows
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were an influence
to a lot of people from my generation.
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Guitar players, anyway.
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Because they were like one of the few
instrumental bands in England
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that you could try and copy,
if you like.
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So they sort of started me off.
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And then affer that, I got into more...
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the blues players and ja players.
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We'd never been to America, so we
went on the. . . with the Paranoid album .
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Took us to America and opened up,
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just fulfilled everything
we'd ever dreamt of
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and all our ambitions.
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We had three seats on one side,
three seats on the other,
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flying the Atlantic to New York.
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Steve Winwood was playing a drum
on the opposite side of the plane.
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And Jim Capaldi
was in the seat ne to me.
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He said, "Man, you guys
are going to kill in the States."
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It was a great experience because...
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I'll never forget,
as I'm going through Kennedy Airport,
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that warm evening,
and experiencing jetlag for the first time.
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It's like you're dead,
you go to sleep,
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wake up four days later
and it's still dark.
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And you go, "What's all this about?"
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We arrived in New York,
went to New York, it's, you know.
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Our first gig was in New York.
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In fact, our first several gigs
were in New York.
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And...
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And the PAs and the equipment
that we'd brought
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were totally unsuitable for America.
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We didn't know that it was different
electricity over here,
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and we'd all brought our gear
with our suitcases and stuff.
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I can't believe it now, that we actually took
big column speakers
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in a plastic,
like a plastic cover on them ,
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travelling on the plane.
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So when they come off the chute,
of course you know,
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no protection whatsoever.
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So all the naivety
started all over again.
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We were these huge,
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for a second we were these huge giants
back in England, you know,
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walking amidst the clouds
or what have you,
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and in America we were back in a club.
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The first gig was bloody awful .
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We played at this place
called Ungano's Club in New York.
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It was the worst dump I've ever seen.
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The roadie we had at that time,
he plugged the gear in and it all blew up
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cos he didn't realise
it was a different mains.
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We had to borrow some amps and stuff
for that night.
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And we went on,
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and we like, did the set,
and everybody was just like...
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Completely like no response.
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Then we found out, later,
that we were auditioning
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for all the promoters and agents
and everybody in America.
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And we were wondering why the audience
looked so weird to us.
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They were all suits and short hair
and everything.
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And nobody had told us
that we had to audition first.
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So from that then, we played
a couple of the university shows.
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We'd never been
in a college basketball stadium before,
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at the university.
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We were looking around,
going, "Oh my God."
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And the acoustics
were absolutely awful ,
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and the equipment that we had
was completely inadequate.
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We had a lot to learn
and very quickly.
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Then we got a break
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and we played the Eastown Theater.
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And the Fillmore East, which was
so different, we couldn't believe it,
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and we'd actually got
a monitor system,
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and we'd never used a monitor system
in our lives.
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And it was like,
"Oh God, this is great."
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And there we are, with our poxy PA,
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which didn't even go any further
than a few yards, there,
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and there's all the sound,
so we just used all their stuff.
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And it was great.
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So that was, then we were in,
and we went down really well .
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Then, I don't know how, but word
just like spread like wildfire,
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and we were there for, I think,
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originally we were supposed to be
in America for two weeks
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and it ended up being three months.
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Well , the Black Sabbath story,
for Warner Brothers,
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Warner Brothers
was loaded with terrific acts,
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but the Black Sabbath story
was unique unto itself
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in that there were never any returns.
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When you sell a ton of records
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and what is unsold gets returned.
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And we'd never have returns
on Black Sabbath records.
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I got to our production people
and say, "What's the story?"
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They say we have to make more records,
more albums, more tapes.
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That carried
through their entire career with us.
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They never returned a record,
they just kept selling,
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and, big numbers, obviously.
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And the fact that the first album
got to number 1 2 on the charts
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was amazing,
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because the air play for this band,
at the normal great exposure stations,
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was not there.
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They made it on who they were
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and what the quality of the music
on those albums was.
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All the riffs I'd done, I always tried to make
them big and powerful
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because we were only a three-piece,
musically.
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Oy never played an instrument so
we had to make it as big as we could.
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And so, that was it, really.
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That was the approach
on all the songs, was to try...
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Also songs like War Pigs or whatever,
you'd have to,
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I'd let the boffom note ring
to make it bigger.
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And it goes through the three stages
of that beginning part
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where I'm hitting the open string
as well to make it a bigger sound.
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And then it goes,
the other part, where it goes...
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That's sort of where the vocal starts.
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Then we do a section
of doing that with Oy,
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and then back
into the instrumental part again.
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Then it goes into another section.
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Then a vocal bit.
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Then a break.
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Vocal .
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Then it breaks down into...
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Then into the solo, which, again,
was hitting the bottom string
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to make it sound fuller.
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My approach to solos is,
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I go and sit down and play
and capture them in so many
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otherwise it either gets worse,
or it very rarely gets beffer,
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but I try and do it in so many.
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And just listen to it
and then start playing,
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and try and get the feel of it
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without, sort of,
geffing it to working stuff out.
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If you start working...
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I've never been one for,
"Sit down and work out a solo".
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I can't do that. I've never been able
to do that properly.
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So I just tend to go in
and just sort of jam with it.
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If a part, if I'm playing a part,
say if I do six takes or whatever,
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and there's a part that I thought,
"I like that part,"
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then I'll keep that
and then try another one.
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Songs like War Pigs and that.
The solo became part of the theme.
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So you'd end up keeping that
because it was a part of the song.
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But some of the others would be just,
you'd try different things.
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Some of the other songs, Paranoid tended
to be one of the solos I kept
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and done it more or less the same.
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That's basically it, really,
and there's not much else to it.
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Electric Funeral was sort of a...
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I'd done it on a wah-wah.
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Again, it was the riff first,
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and then, the music first
and then the melody came afferwards.
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But, basically, Oy followed the riff
which sort of went with it,
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again, like Iron Man,
the same sort of thing.
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It seemed to be the right
sort of approach for it, I think.
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But this one was a bit different cos,
as I say, we used a wah-wah on it
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and it just sort of made it sound
a liffle bit different.
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It sort of went like this.
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And then where Oy come in singing,
I dropped the level down
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and just used the wah-wah slowly.
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I couldn't keep a day job.
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I hated the fact that this is it
for the rest of my life.
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I thought, "I'm not going to."
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I remember my mother
geffing me a job, for instance,
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at the Lucas car plant,
tuning car horns.
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I believe that was my first musical job.
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And I said to one of the guys
in his soundproof room,
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"How long have you been doing this?"
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And he goes,
"35 years and I get my gold watch."
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I thought to myself,
I remember thinking,
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"I don't want a gold watch that bad,
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"but if I did,
I'd break a jeweller's window."
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But I just couldn't stand it, and it was
a good way to be with the lads,
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travel around Europe,
meet women, have beer, have sex,
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all the rest of it, you know.
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It was just, have fun while you're still ...
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you ain't got no wife, no kids.
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We were four lads plus a roadie
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driving around Europe
in a transit van.
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This is a track called Paranoid.
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That was the one that did it for them ,
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and, again, it came,
started with Tony's guitar riff.
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Basically, Tony came up with the riff,
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and the bass is just nailing down
what Tony does.
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Which is so distinctive at the front.
Should we have another listen to that?
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This is a track where Geezer is following
the guitar all the way through.
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Yeah, the bass is really providing,
just broadening out the guitar sound.
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And on the solo
they used a tone generator on the,
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actually playing on the solo
to make it sound odd.
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And it did sound odd.
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I played it like that
and got this sound on it,
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which was weird,
but that was a Rodger Bain idea or...
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Tom Allom .
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Solo with vile ring modulator on it.
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Grim !
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And the original vocal again
with the original backing.
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"You're all insane! "
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Short and sweet.
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I've played it
with a bunch of different guys.
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I had some great drummers,
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some great bass players,
some great guitar players.
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Nobody, I don't know why, it's like,
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it's like puffing this pair of shoes on
a different guy.
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It just doesn't fit the same,
it doesn't feel the same.
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It's a "version of'.
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When I went back with Black Sabbath
for the reunion, it was like...
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Thank God. This is the only band,
for me, that can play this stuff.
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I always wanted to back the riff up,
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to make it deeper and heavier,
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so I'd like play along to the same thing
that Tony was playing
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and then go off on his middle eights
or the choruses or whatever.
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Then, when the riff came back in,
play that with Tony.
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A lot of the riffs are so, like, strong
you can't really get off them.
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Especially Iron Man.
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We'd opened N . I . B. with the bass
on the first album
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and we wanted something to open,
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for the bass to open
with on the Paranoid album as well .
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So Hand Of Doom was a good riff,
doomy riff for the bass.
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That's how we came up with it.
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There was no casseffe decks or anything
to record anything on back then.
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We couldn't afford anything like that.
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So everything that we ever did
was in our heads.
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So you'd be thinking of stuff
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and you might have ten riffs going on.
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01:15:50,486 --> 01:15:54,290
In your mind you go,
"If I put that riff with that riff."
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01:15:54,390 --> 01:16:00,263
And sometimes the song would just go from
beginning to end in one session,
239
01:16:00,363 --> 01:16:04,801
but other times you'd get one piece
and you keep working and working,
240
01:16:04,901 --> 01:16:07,637
you might not come up with anything,
then a week later,
241
01:16:07,737 --> 01:16:12,175
you might come up with something
that will go with that one,
242
01:16:12,275 --> 01:16:15,778
and piece it together like that,
like a jigsaw pule.
243
01:17:03,092 --> 01:17:06,195
Of course it was Tony mainly
that come out with the major riff
244
01:17:06,295 --> 01:17:08,798
and everybody'd put in bits around that.
245
01:17:09,799 --> 01:17:12,401
And without any one of us,
it wouldn't have been the same.
246
01:17:12,501 --> 01:17:17,707
So we all , you know,
got credits for it.
247
01:17:22,912 --> 01:17:26,015
This was the first time
I'd heard drums played
248
01:17:26,115 --> 01:17:28,718
where it wasn't like a regular beat.
249
01:17:28,818 --> 01:17:30,586
It was actually, listening to it,
250
01:17:30,686 --> 01:17:33,923
and this ne track, Rat Salad,
will illustrate it,
251
01:17:34,023 --> 01:17:39,629
in the same way that Tony's
got a lot of ja in what he plays,
252
01:17:39,729 --> 01:17:44,200
Bill's technique reminds me of a lot
of ja drummers that I've heard.
253
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:48,704
And the solo on this ne track
does illustrate that very well.
254
01:17:48,804 --> 01:17:53,409
And it's not just playing a regular beat,
it's using the toms
255
01:17:53,509 --> 01:17:59,415
in between the riffs and in between
the bass lines that drives it so well.
256
01:17:59,515 --> 01:18:01,617
Technically very good, actually.
257
01:18:04,954 --> 01:18:06,589
Keeping time
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01:18:06,689 --> 01:18:10,293
when you're not playing a steady beat
259
01:18:10,393 --> 01:18:12,161
is a different technique.
260
01:18:14,997 --> 01:18:20,002
He's playing more in the style of, perhaps,
a Ginger Baker, in a way,
261
01:18:21,037 --> 01:18:24,140
much more fluent.
262
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,910
Of course,
Keith Moon did it brilliantly.
263
01:18:28,010 --> 01:18:30,713
He could only play with one band.
264
01:18:30,813 --> 01:18:36,052
I suspect that, actually, Bill could probably
have slotted into other bands
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01:18:36,152 --> 01:18:38,254
with his ability on drums.
266
01:18:38,354 --> 01:18:42,792
But, anyway, this ne track actually does
show him off eremely well .
267
01:18:42,892 --> 01:18:47,530
It also illustrates
how few takes that we had to do
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01:18:47,630 --> 01:18:49,098
to complete this album ,
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01:18:49,198 --> 01:18:52,868
because you hear me saying "take two"
just before this.
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01:18:52,969 --> 01:18:55,104
If he only did two takes
of this liffle lot,
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01:18:55,204 --> 01:18:57,106
then he was doing preffy well .
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01:18:57,206 --> 01:18:58,541
Shall we have a listen?
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01:19:06,315 --> 01:19:07,984
Take two.
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01:19:35,277 --> 01:19:39,215
Kind of interesting to have a listen
to Geezer and Tony
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01:19:39,315 --> 01:19:41,584
just on their own
in this ne passage.
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01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:59,502
Geezer's driving the rhythm with his line,
while Tony's weaving around it.
277
01:20:23,559 --> 01:20:25,361
Now we have the solo.
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01:21:18,247 --> 01:21:20,950
This is exactly the same
as the finished mix,
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01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:24,420
they were just a couple of double-tracked
guitar parts.
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01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,789
Other than that, this was it.
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01:21:26,889 --> 01:21:28,390
Second take.
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01:21:34,063 --> 01:21:36,699
That, again, came out of
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01:21:36,799 --> 01:21:41,770
when we used to do these ridiculous,
eight three-quarter hour spots
284
01:21:41,871 --> 01:21:44,673
when we were on in Europe.
285
01:21:44,773 --> 01:21:49,712
And Bill used to fill out
a whole 45 minutes
286
01:21:49,812 --> 01:21:55,684
doing a drum solo just to pass,
get rid of, like, that 45 minutes.
287
01:21:55,784 --> 01:21:59,255
Me and Oy would probably be
up at the bar getting pissed
288
01:21:59,355 --> 01:22:03,692
and me and Tony would just do
that quick intro to Rat Salad
289
01:22:03,792 --> 01:22:07,830
and then go off, and we'd be at
the bar or smoking dope or something,
290
01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:09,999
or off with some tart,
291
01:22:10,099 --> 01:22:15,137
and just leave Bill to it.
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01:22:15,237 --> 01:22:19,942
Bill wanted to get a drum solo in
on the album , so that's what.
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01:22:20,042 --> 01:22:22,311
We did what we do on stage.
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01:22:23,445 --> 01:22:25,915
I've no idea
where the title came from .
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01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,589
On Saturday nights,
my mum would play the piano
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01:22:33,689 --> 01:22:35,691
and my dad would sing.
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01:22:37,593 --> 01:22:42,364
And the guy that played the drums,
he lived about four houses down,
298
01:22:42,464 --> 01:22:45,067
so he'd bring his,
what was then called "traps",
299
01:22:45,167 --> 01:22:47,636
he'd bring his traps around the house.
300
01:22:47,736 --> 01:22:50,539
Of course, he'd be too drunk
to take them home,
301
01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:54,610
so on Sunday mornings, when everybody
else was asleep with a hangover,
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01:22:54,710 --> 01:22:56,579
I used to come sneaking down
303
01:22:56,679 --> 01:22:58,948
and I'd touch the hi-hats
and touch the cymbals,
304
01:22:59,048 --> 01:23:00,549
just like a kid, man.
305
01:23:00,649 --> 01:23:03,819
To me, it was just like,
"Oh my God. This is incredible."
306
01:23:03,919 --> 01:23:05,154
I was just fascinated.
307
01:23:05,254 --> 01:23:09,124
We were talking about,
like just the regular triplet,
308
01:23:09,225 --> 01:23:14,863
and in the song, Hand Of Doom ,
309
01:23:14,964 --> 01:23:16,599
I'm doing something like that.
310
01:23:16,699 --> 01:23:20,569
Before I do it and show you
the different interpretations,
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01:23:20,669 --> 01:23:24,640
I have to give credit to the other musicians
in Birmingham at the time
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01:23:24,740 --> 01:23:28,444
that were using
this very similar type of thing.
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01:23:28,544 --> 01:23:30,646
So it's basically a...
314
01:23:36,452 --> 01:23:38,454
That's preffy much what it is.
315
01:23:38,554 --> 01:23:41,423
But when you
add a few other things into it,
316
01:23:41,523 --> 01:23:45,694
an example of that, put this
into the conte of Hand Of Doom ,
317
01:23:45,794 --> 01:23:49,932
there's a part where Oy's
singing with, the band's playing...
318
01:23:53,002 --> 01:23:57,873
There's a lot of work that I'm puffing in there,
including these.
319
01:24:07,416 --> 01:24:09,551
So it's kind of like...
320
01:24:15,758 --> 01:24:17,126
Sort of like so,
321
01:24:17,226 --> 01:24:20,529
and most drummers, probably,
will know that paffern,
322
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:22,731
and a lot of people will know that,
323
01:24:22,831 --> 01:24:27,002
but to bring that into a more complex,
324
01:24:27,102 --> 01:24:30,072
taking the triplet
and bringing in far more complexity
325
01:24:30,172 --> 01:24:31,840
can be used...
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01:24:45,587 --> 01:24:50,025
Which is what we, you know,
how we drive and so on and so forth.
327
01:24:50,125 --> 01:24:54,863
In Electric Funeral , there's
a couple of things that I really...
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01:24:54,963 --> 01:24:58,167
Well, I enjoyed playing,
obviously played all the songs,
329
01:24:58,267 --> 01:25:02,071
but there was one particular thing
where we go up tempo
330
01:25:02,171 --> 01:25:04,707
and it's in the part
where Tony played...
331
01:25:08,510 --> 01:25:13,248
I blat and I come in so, I'll play you
kind of where I went with that.
332
01:25:23,292 --> 01:25:27,396
So that's the,
that's it in its simplest form ,
333
01:25:27,496 --> 01:25:32,501
but where I like to go
is to add more fills in.
334
01:25:32,601 --> 01:25:36,472
And, again, it comes under the heading of
"nearly triplets", I guess.
335
01:25:36,572 --> 01:25:37,773
So we're going...
336
01:26:01,597 --> 01:26:03,065
It wasn't, it's not too,
337
01:26:03,165 --> 01:26:06,568
it's not too far away from where
those bass drums were going then.
338
01:26:06,668 --> 01:26:09,371
It's not too far away from ...
339
01:26:39,201 --> 01:26:42,871
One of my favourite songs to play
on stage is still Fairies Wear Boots.
340
01:26:42,971 --> 01:26:45,674
And, again,
341
01:26:45,774 --> 01:26:48,243
it's very powerfully played.
342
01:26:48,343 --> 01:26:52,147
But it certainly has its roots,
again, in ja.
343
01:26:53,348 --> 01:26:55,017
I can try and give an example.
344
01:26:55,117 --> 01:26:58,253
I'll just go to the up tempo part.
345
01:26:58,353 --> 01:27:00,689
So imagine that
we've just played the...
346
01:27:04,092 --> 01:27:06,028
And then we're going into the...
347
01:27:08,063 --> 01:27:12,134
So it would be, two, three, and...
348
01:27:51,740 --> 01:27:55,944
It's what reminds me
of the ja in it,
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01:27:56,044 --> 01:27:58,213
is the going, the...
350
01:28:02,117 --> 01:28:05,187
Going into those parts.
351
01:28:05,287 --> 01:28:08,757
I kind of wish Tony was here right now
so we could play it together.
352
01:28:10,826 --> 01:28:13,629
But it's like, it's almost like,
353
01:28:13,729 --> 01:28:17,733
it's almost, it really is like swing,
with power.
354
01:28:17,833 --> 01:28:20,536
And I can't say enough about
355
01:28:20,636 --> 01:28:23,539
coming back to the shuffles
356
01:28:23,639 --> 01:28:26,808
and a lot, I'll give credit to
357
01:28:26,909 --> 01:28:31,346
the blues music that was
- and especially English blues music -
358
01:28:31,446 --> 01:28:34,483
that was so dominant
during the mid-'60s.
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01:28:39,688 --> 01:28:41,323
The ne one's Planet Caravan,
360
01:28:41,423 --> 01:28:45,160
so this is their sort of
psychedelic ballad thing.
361
01:28:46,528 --> 01:28:50,699
Bill Ward sits on a stool
and plays bongos.
362
01:28:52,901 --> 01:28:55,637
Tony's playing a nice,
gentle liffle guitar part.
363
01:28:55,737 --> 01:28:57,139
Very sweet.
364
01:28:59,441 --> 01:29:02,177
There's a funny liffle synthy thing in there,
365
01:29:02,277 --> 01:29:06,782
we've got a guide vocal
from. . . from Oy,
366
01:29:06,882 --> 01:29:12,254
which is, again, preffy much the final
melody, but totally different lyrics.
367
01:29:12,354 --> 01:29:16,325
And then there's a surprise performance
later on in the track
368
01:29:16,425 --> 01:29:18,594
which we'll come to in a bit,
369
01:29:19,595 --> 01:29:24,166
on an instrument
hitherto unheard on heayv metal .
370
01:29:24,266 --> 01:29:25,267
Basically.
371
01:29:25,367 --> 01:29:27,903
And this is sort of how it went, really.
372
01:30:36,838 --> 01:30:39,908
That's not actually a keyboard.
This is not a keyboard, at all .
373
01:30:42,844 --> 01:30:45,213
It's a knob.
374
01:30:45,313 --> 01:30:48,316
With a different frequency
on each click.
375
01:30:49,384 --> 01:30:51,486
So, I think it's Rodger,
376
01:30:53,722 --> 01:30:55,691
just turning the knob.
377
01:30:57,893 --> 01:31:00,862
Notice, it's the same notes
going up and down.
378
01:31:10,872 --> 01:31:14,209
And I think the finished thing,
379
01:31:15,277 --> 01:31:17,446
with a nice liffle reverb on it, and an echo.
380
01:31:42,037 --> 01:31:44,873
I think we've got Tony's solo
coming up now.
381
01:32:12,768 --> 01:32:17,439
Again, very much the ja influence
in his playing.
382
01:32:38,627 --> 01:32:40,929
Mystery instrument coming in,
I think, now.
383
01:32:43,665 --> 01:32:45,167
What's that?
384
01:32:48,036 --> 01:32:50,405
Well , it's a piano.
385
01:33:06,788 --> 01:33:09,624
Prizes offered
for guessing who was playing that.
386
01:33:11,927 --> 01:33:13,528
That was the engineer.
387
01:33:16,765 --> 01:33:18,366
Yours truly.
388
01:33:18,466 --> 01:33:20,302
I think...
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01:33:21,403 --> 01:33:23,705
Possibly my only instrumental performance
390
01:33:23,805 --> 01:33:25,507
on any record I've ever recorded.
391
01:33:30,545 --> 01:33:35,383
But it seemed to work
with the other things
392
01:33:35,483 --> 01:33:37,619
that were happening at the time.
393
01:33:40,222 --> 01:33:43,925
Then, basically,
it just fades out from here.
394
01:33:44,025 --> 01:33:47,329
So it's, lyrically, a short song.
395
01:34:03,845 --> 01:34:08,116
Well , it's actually amazing to have
these boxes here on the console
396
01:34:08,216 --> 01:34:09,684
ne to me here,
397
01:34:09,784 --> 01:34:15,457
because it's my handwriting on them ,
here they are,
398
01:34:15,557 --> 01:34:18,960
proof that it was done 4-track.
One-inch, 4-track.
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01:34:19,060 --> 01:34:20,228
Lovely stuff.
400
01:34:20,328 --> 01:34:23,999
They've survived
the 39 intervening years.
401
01:34:24,099 --> 01:34:27,802
Sadly, we've only got these
4-track tapes,
402
01:34:27,903 --> 01:34:31,006
which are the original 4-track tapes.
403
01:34:31,106 --> 01:34:35,176
And it would have been nice
if we'd had the,
404
01:34:35,277 --> 01:34:38,246
whether they were 8-track or 1 6-track tapes
from Island.
405
01:34:38,346 --> 01:34:42,817
But the fact is, we don't have them
but we can hear,
406
01:34:42,918 --> 01:34:46,855
by comparing what's on these 4-track tapes
to the final mixes,
407
01:34:46,955 --> 01:34:48,823
how liffle was actually done at Island.
408
01:34:48,924 --> 01:34:52,193
The vocals obviously being the important
thing, were done there,
409
01:34:52,294 --> 01:34:55,563
but, I think...
410
01:34:55,664 --> 01:34:58,366
I think every one of Tony's guitar solos
411
01:34:58,466 --> 01:35:01,169
was present on these original 4-tracks.
412
01:35:01,269 --> 01:35:03,071
He just doubled some of them
413
01:35:03,171 --> 01:35:06,808
and then doubled up
most of the rhythm guitar parts.
414
01:35:06,908 --> 01:35:09,010
We had a few effects go on
here and there,
415
01:35:09,110 --> 01:35:10,845
a bit of reverb here and there,
416
01:35:10,946 --> 01:35:14,749
but really, preffy much all of the album's
siffing here ne to us now,
417
01:35:14,849 --> 01:35:15,917
which is nice.
418
01:35:16,618 --> 01:35:21,456
And inside here,
there's some other session log sheets
419
01:35:21,556 --> 01:35:24,592
which refer to three of the tracks
on here.
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01:35:24,693 --> 01:35:27,896
"Take one. Doom .
Hand Of Doom . Master."
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01:35:27,996 --> 01:35:29,731
So that was first take.
422
01:35:29,831 --> 01:35:33,568
"Iron Man." Oh, we had to do
three takes of that. Big deal .
423
01:35:33,668 --> 01:35:34,869
For the master, and then,
424
01:35:34,970 --> 01:35:38,506
as you heard me say before Rat Salad
on the original thing, "Take two."
425
01:35:38,606 --> 01:35:40,709
There we are, "Take two. Master."
426
01:35:40,809 --> 01:35:44,145
So they didn't mess around.
I mean, they were well rehearsed
427
01:35:44,245 --> 01:35:47,615
and this thing went down
like a dose of salts, it was wonderful .
428
01:35:47,716 --> 01:35:49,951
But it really is lovely
to see these boxes again.
429
01:35:50,051 --> 01:35:53,521
It's a bit of a, bit of a blast, actually.
430
01:35:53,621 --> 01:35:56,291
When you said you had them ,
I didn't totally believe you,
431
01:35:56,391 --> 01:35:57,392
but there it is.
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