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Previously on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So the first Bachelor is

Bachelor F. Loves kids, loves to travel.

I just need to... Oh my God, she's doing it on his private.

I like Dory, but I just feel like when we talk, we're not understanding each

other. I think for someone who talks so much, she doesn't listen.

I do believe... I'm gonna get emotional.

Life is just too short.

White. If Kathy and I have an argument, instead of it being just between us...

All of a sudden, it's like, okay, then I'm cut off from everybody.

I was so nice to you.

Okay. And you were a bitch to me. Okay. And you know it. I do? Okay.

Go watch the show.

Oh, this is quite the thread.

Can we eat? Are you guys hungry?

I'm hearing about this fabulous night you guys had. You made out with your

driver. Oh, my God.

Okay? Okay.

You're saying it to embarrass her, and that's not okay. We are having a good

time, you guys.

If you have to say it like that, we're not having a good time. I'm saying that

because you just attacked me. Just for the record, I didn't attack you. We were

having a conversation.

What's a good word? I don't know what's a good word, but I feel like for you and

your privilege, I can't.

If you don't like me, Garcelle, stop pretending that you do.

Did you clear up the thing with Erica?

No, we haven't. No? Oh, you haven't? No.

No, we haven't, Potter.

Okay. I am going to go see my husband who I've not seen in a week.

Are you leaving?

I am.

Hey, give me a hug before you go.

Okay, thank you.

I am so ready to go home.

So what are you upset about?

First of all, to insinuate that my daughters at 14 years old would have

had a threesome, I think is beyond, beyond inappropriate.

You're shaking your head.

Yeah, I'm shaking my head because that's not what it was about.

Children these days, if they have a phone, I have access to everything.

Of course they know about that.

Okay,

your oldest daughter's on OnlyFans.

She doesn't know?

That is a low blow to bring up my daughter's OnlyFans right now. What did

think I was going to do, come in here and not mention the OnlyFans after you

called me a bitch?

Did you really think I was going to play nice with you?

Did you really think I was going to come in here and be, what, above it all?

You are a mean woman.

You asked for it. No, I did not.

Well, then you shouldn't have come up into her house acting like a bitch and

then I wouldn't be here. Well, you shouldn't have acted like a bitch.

What, four years ago when nobody remembers?

I think it's great. I just want to know who's more profitable, you or Sammy.

You're unbelievable.

I am.

Mm.

Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm.

Well, apparently Lent is over.

I gave up fighting with y 'all for Lent as a good Catholic.

That didn't last long. I did not want to fight, okay? What do you want from her?

I wanted to ask what I did to you for you to do what you did.

About my kids. It has nothing to do with your kids. Do you remember at your

barbecue, there was a table of us, a round table of kids, and we were all

talking about threesome, sexual stuff, whatever.

Well, not all of us. Hold on.

You just talked about your husband's big dick five minutes before.

I did not talk about it at a dinner with my kids at the next table, Erica.

I was at that party, people.

I was there.

He still has a big penis and big muscles, so it's all good.

Denise,

you got some explaining to do.

Denise, I'm right. Anyway, my point is this. No, you're not right. I am right.

No, you're not.

100%. I know I'm right.

I think you're wrong.

Okay, great.

I'm right.

My point is this. No, you're not. We were all speaking about these things.

All of a sudden, you single me out, take me to coffee and talk about, well, you

know, my children. I went to lunch yesterday with Sammy, my oldest

she overheard something.

I'm sure that they did. So she mentioned three thumbs.

Well, I apologize, you know, because I have like the nastiest mouth ever. I

don't have the cleanest mouth either. I apologize. That's Sasquatch coffee. I

said, you know what? I'm very sorry. You brought it up. I didn't bring it up.

You did.

Listen, Denise, I have nothing left for you. You can think however you want of

me. You can feel however you want. I have nothing left to say.

I didn't want this fight.

Yeah, you did.

You needed it to get off of all the other shit going on in your life.

not. Absolutely.

That's what you do. You deflect.

Erica, Erica, stop being so condescending.

Denise, we haven't deflected anything about my life the last few years.

Absolutely not. There's been no deflecting.

Really?

And you're the one that claims you didn't know $20 million was deposited in

account?

Oh.

It wasn't, actually.

Oh, really? And the government's proven that, so you're a little late. Oh, well.

It was so nice. I'm going to excuse myself.

Excuse yourself.

Bye, honey. Good to see you. Me too.

And I love you. Bye.

Get home safe. Thank you.

You head below the belt. You do.

Oh, Denise.

Off. I've had it. You know what? You had your chance a week ago. You failed. You

failed again tonight.

And that's it.

Conversation over.

Bye.

Don't come for me when you're on OnlyFans for $7.

I mean, I do wonder what she makes, though. I mean, hopefully it's good.

Really, it should be that children and families are off limits.

Yes. You know, not between all of us.

Why don't you say that to her when she just said that? I know. Why don't you

step in and say something?

We're sitting right next to you. I was letting you guys talk it out. Why didn't

anybody stand up for me the other night?

Why didn't anybody say that's wrong to do?

About what?

About the ring.

And that Moe must have bought that for me if he cheated. Why didn't anyone

up for me then?

What's with the new band?

I thought it was a makeup band.

A makeup band? What does that mean?

When your husband messes up and you get a gift.

So what you're saying is that my husband cheated on me?

Where the f***? Because everybody's been when I've needed them.

Are you kidding me? If you want to play every man for themself game, then we're

going to play it across the board.

Not one person said, that is so weird to sit there and say, oh, she has a new

piece of jewelry. Must be that her husband bought it because he cheated.

not cool, guys.

That's her family. That's her husband.

Her kids are upstairs.

Nobody said a fucking thing.

So guess what? Fuck everybody.

I'm sorry. You guys can figure it out.

I didn't defend Kyle when Sutton was questioning about her marriage because

too, am curious about Kyle's marriage.

I'm done.

With the ring switching and working out so much, it seems

like a lifestyle change.

It's weird to me. I don't know.

Good night, everybody. Good night, good night, good night.

Oh, wait, I came with you.

Oh, yeah, then you want to come or you? I came with you. Bye, Denise.

Bye, everyone.

Maybe I'll do Taco Tuesday next time.

I really thought Erica had changed.

Nice to meet you. Bye, sweetie.

And seeing her talk like this, it's the old Erica coming back.

Your lovely hostess.

Sorry I ruined your day.

Good night,

ladies. Bye.

You cannot say stuff like that. You cannot attack people's kids. It's too

That was super fun.

You're welcome.

Bye. You're welcome.

Bye. Bye, honey.

Hey, Sutton.

Wait, hey, Sutton. Don't make out with your driver.

I will kill you. Don't be pulling over.

You may jump in that front seat.

Don't you worry about it, Colleen. Bye. Don't you worry about it. Bye.

Coming up.

Oh, I hear a girl's voice. Let me guess.

Ashlyn?

Hi. What are y 'all doing in the bed?

We're watching a movie.

Hello.

Hello.

You little people aren't getting fed. Just the big fish.

What have you little people done to him?

What'd y 'all do?

Okay.

I sound like a crazy person.

Mom, what are we going to have for dinner tonight?

If it's not too complicated, I can cook.

Like, don't ask me to do the lasagna right now.

I know, but it's going to be our main dish, though.

You know what? What do you really look like?

Wolfgang Buck?

Are you going to make the chicken? You get what you get.

Love you.

Love you.

Mijo.

Oh,

I hear a girl's voice. Let me guess.

Aslan? Hi.

What are you all doing in the bed?

We're watching a movie.

Uh -huh. Where's your father?

Over there.

Okay. All right. Have fun.

Not too much fun. Not too much fun.

Bye.

What were they doing in the bed?

That'll like it.

Yeah.

Phoenix, should I wear the Chanel hoop or my

studs? Diamond studs.

Diamond studs all the way. I think she's here.

Oh, you look so cute. Thank you. Hey, princess. How are you? Good.

Nice to see you. You're growing up so fast.

She is. Hi, honey.

Nice to see you. Come on in. We're going to go outside.

She's going to get us drinks if we want drinks. May I have a Coke like your mom?

I just knew it.

Did you know it? Regular Coke, not Diet Coke. Mama just told me. The other day

she says to me, Mama, I have got such a great model walk. She is a performer.

She really is. Phoenix, why don't you go get the Coca -Cola, baby, for Erica,

and then bring it back with your model walk.

Thank you so much, my love bug. Thanks, Phoenix. You're welcome.

So what's going on? What happened after I left? Girl, oh, my goodness.

You know, the Denise of it all.

Oh, God, Denise.

What was she saying?

She was, you know, what you did to my daughters and what you did to my, you

know, what you said about my children.

I was thinking, you're mad at me for something four years ago? You know what

is. Well, I'm like, no, I don't. And then, you know, it got to where, like I

said, you know, I just said, well, listen, who makes more money on

or your daughter?

Oh, my God.

I've had it. I don't want to do this. You wanted this bite. You picked this

bite, so here it is.

And now, oh, my God, you're evil.

Really?

You're dumb.

There she is, coming down the catwalk, Miss Phoenix. I'm not doing the catwalk.

Did you bring snacks?

It is from Passover. What a beautiful little hostess.

Bye,

baby girl. This is yummy.

Let me ask you this, because I walked in at the end.

What were you and Garcelle talking about that you guys got so heated over?

Hi. Hi.

How are you?

I'm good. I'm tired.

You know, I'm an emotional person, and I didn't like seeing your face the other

night.

I was really messed up.

After that, I cried to sleep, and I woke up,

and I wasn't better.

I mean, the word attack.

I would hope somebody who's in my group would know better than to use certain

words or say certain things. I didn't lunge at her. I didn't grab her. I

do anything that's considered attacking, right?

She just doesn't get me. She doesn't know my world. She doesn't care to know.

She's in her world, in her bubble.

And there's rainbows and unicorns everywhere.

I think the word attack, when we're getting in heated

conversations, to you can kind of go towards that.

Aggressive. Yes, yes, yes.

Yes. Yes.

I just, I feel like I need to have a few days. You know, we need to kind of

process everything.

When I used the word attack, I did not mean to have any type of connotation

would trigger or offend Garcelle.

Now, I just feel like I have to get a grasp on how best to approach it.

I love that you went after the privilege.

I feel like for you and your privilege, I can't.

I think she lives in a bubble.

Agree. I feel like over the last few years, we've made steps forward, and

felt blindsided again.

I don't think Dorit is a malicious person. When Dorit knows better, she

better. You know, she just, I don't believe she knew, and now I'm sure she

knows, and I'm sure she will never do that again, and I'm sure that...

She feels terrible because I know Dorit's heart.

You got to talk to her.

Coming up.

I'm only here because I love you. I know. And I love her and I want this to

work. What if I don't want that relationship?

Got to meet with the matchmaker.

I have a really hard time with her name. Starts with an A. It's not Elizabeth.

Why can't I remember this poor woman's name?

Oh.

Look how pretty you look.

Beauty. We're in the same color.

We keep doing that. I love the pink.

Well, we're both in pink, so that's good.

Here, here, here. Have a seat right here. Perfect.

So Miss Sutton. Oh, God.

Bell of the ball. My report card.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, before we go into your date feedback, Sal had really good feedback.

So tell me, how did it go?

Started off slowly.

But, you know, it loosened up. Yeah. And we talked about his mother.

Okay.

I get back every two months to see mom. I'll tell you my favorite mom story. My

little mother.

I was just like, Mom, Mama.

Wow, Mom.

My mother drives me crazy.

I'll read you his feedback. It's so cute.

Are you ready?

Generally, he had a great time, but I'm going to go through. Oh, God.

I need to lie down.

No, you're going to do great. What are some positive qualities about my match?

She sounds like a great mom.

This is the worst thing I've ever done in my life.

I'm dying.

I'm literally dying. Okay.

Did I feel captivated, bored, or something in between?

What did he say?

Captivated. Okay, we're almost done. We're almost done. Did they make me

No, he didn't come across as an individual who makes a lot of jokes.

Well, I didn't see the funny side of Sal.

Okay.

Just having read Sal's feedback, my guess would be that he probably thought

were not into him.

So I want to work on giving indicators of interest to the next men that you are

going to meet. Step one, are you comfortable giving a compliment? We want

break these patterns. What would be a compliment?

So even saying like, I like your belt. Yeah, like I love your belt.

No, that is the worst thing I've been talking about. What's wrong with that?

Because it is close to the genitalia area.

It's okay. No.

Men are flattered by anything.

You could tell them that you like their ears and they would probably be

flattered. Men are like big babies that walk around the earth.

See, now I'm never going to get a date because I just said that.

Let's get to the second date. I love it. I love it. So, based on all the

feedback from last time, I have a client. This is Bachelor S.

He's VP of sales.

He's 6 '2". He's cute. Yeah.

I don't know what VP of sales is. Those always kind of freak me out, those kind

of jobs.

But it's a job.

It's like a business. He's a businessman.

I could easily set you up with the billionaires.

They're insane.

That's not what you need.

I know that people around me say, you need a wealthy man.

Leave that to yourself.

You don't know what I need. A billionaire could suit me just fine.

Okay. You're going to have an amazing time.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

You know what? I'm going to get off the peanut butter.

Oh,

she

locked me out?

Um,

is this your sister?

I know it's just my sister.

I thought this would be open.

Well, I know. You love me. Oh.

Hi. You're cute. So colorful.

Your hair looks great.

What's with the fur?

It's so cute.

Oh, this is a diamond gold hummingbird.

When my mom passed away, I started having a lot of weird incidents with

hummingbirds.

Here, you can have it.

No. No, I want you to.

Why? Why?

Because when I bought it, I wanted, I was like, I should get this for Kathy

Kim, too.

When Kim and I had our big fight in the back of the limo.

You stole my goddamn house!

You better fucking take that back right now. You better fucking take that back

right now.

The next day, I woke up, and I was walking into the kitchen in my old

and there was a hummingbird laying on the floor.

It looked great on you.

I looked at this hummingbird, and I started crying, and I was like, Mom,

I do? And I looked up, and Marta, who works for me, was like, Kyle's

talking to the person again.

What else is happening? So you're getting excited about Whitney's wedding?

I am. I'm so excited. I think I look at her and Luke, and... They're the cutest

couple. They're so cute.

I just know when she's with him, you don't have to worry.

I know she's safe.

Are you bringing anybody to the wedding?

To which wedding? You're coming to Winnie's wedding, right?

I think that what I'm saying is I don't want everybody, anybody coming there

that isn't in a good place with somebody.

Or at least if they're not in a great place. I would always be. I mean,

obviously I haven't seen Kathy. Well, I actually saw her at the Elton John Oscar

party.

That I would always be polite, always be nice.

I don't think it's right to overlook and share what bothers you about it. I'm

not writing.

Do you think you were wrong in any way? You don't know everything, right? I

know. I don't know anything. Let's talk about how we fix it then, since you

don't know all the backstory. We'll talk about that another time if you want.

When Kathy came to my house that day to apologize because of what happened in

Aspen, you know, that night, you were in a mood. You were seeing red.

You were screaming at me.

In front of everybody.

And it really hurt me and embarrassed me.

I'm very sorry.

But I'm mostly sorry for... What you said back at the house?

Yeah. I really wanted to accept the apology and be able to move on.

But it was the behavior after.

Why are you upset with me right now? Because I got upset.

Just say it. Because you're acting like a martyr. Like, it's just you.

That really told me she wasn't really...

Sorry.

I'm only here because I love you. I know. And I love her, and I want this to

work. This wedding's coming up, and then Farrah's, and... So what if I don't

want that relationship?

I miss my family.

I miss our lunches, I miss our barbecues, I miss our fun together as a

That's been a long time since we had that. Very long. And, too, this

coming up, and then Farrah's, and...

What if I don't want that relationship?

I mean, obviously if Kathy did take accountability and reached out to me and

genuine and wanted to repair our relationship, I would 100 % be open to

I'm just not willing to be mistreated.

She can't have a conversation like this.

She gets so mean. I really can't handle the meanness, like the way she talks.

You came up and you didn't say, This guy just hurt my feelings. I'm so

embarrassed. He said, we are out of here. Everybody saw.

I know. And you looked at me like, you... And I was like, hold on a minute.

Kathy, first of all... I'm not proud of that. I'm an adult. You can't talk to me

like that. I don't like that. It freaked me out when I was little.

I don't like that kind of thing.

I don't like it either. It gives me... I don't know what. I just can't... Yeah,

I can't have someone be that mean and talk like that. If she wants to have a

conversation, I could do it, but it's not about a conversation with her.

I'm somebody who doesn't do well with chaos around me.

You know, when I was growing up, it felt like there was chaos and, you know, a

lot of big personalities. And, you know, my mom was great, but she had a temper.

She had a very fiery Irish Aries temper.

I just don't do well with that. That's why in my home it's very peaceful and

calm. You don't hear fighting or yelling in my home ever.

If you don't even try, then you just go the rest of your life and never know.

Well, why doesn't she even try?

She's the one who created this whole disaster.

That's why I'm here. I don't know that either one of you want to try, and I

don't know that either one of you don't want to try, but I think it's so silly.

And I'll tell you one thing.

Mom never wanted this kind of stuff.

She was all about us sticking together. It was her.

Her racehorses, her kids, we were all, and we'd be together. Friends come and

go, and people come and go. But family stayed.

And that was mom.

And I understand her more now than I ever did.

I did not.

Certain things I helped make. I was angry. I was resentful for certain

with mom.

And then, I don't know, after all the work, I was like, oh, my gosh. I know

she did that.

I'm not angry.

I love her.

She gave up her whole life.

I think for me, you know, the main thing.

What? I love mom.

I know you love mom.

I just, it's okay to be angry.

I was, but like, I didn't know how angry I was. It's just like, and I don't

think she knew. Do you think she knew I was upset?

Like, I feel like maybe she knew I was like, something that hurt me so much.

But I just love her so much, and I know, I get it.

And I think that you love Kathy, and that Kathy loves you, and I think that

we think about it, we think about why, why.

And maybe there's underlining something else, but I'm scared of her right now.

But you're trying to set your boundaries for yourself because you don't want to

be walked on. I get it. So if you don't say to her, I love you.

I want this friendship.

I want this sister thing. But I'm confused. Does she want to do this?

I think she does, yes. I said, would you? And she said, well, what does Kyle

say? It can't be like that, you guys. You both have to think, do you want this

or not?

So you guys think about what's best for you. Yeah.

How's the haroset coming along?

She's doing the haroset, I'm making matzo ball.

Max, Max, Max, I'm doing this.

Wait, let me give you... Hold, hold, hold.

We're not going to fight with knives.

Okay, so how many things we got here? Like wasabi.

One, two, three, four.

Oh, you're going to sit here? Where am I going to sit? Here?

Okay, you know what this is called, kids? What? What is this called?

It's called the seder.

Yes, and do you know the significance of this? When the Jewish slaves are

running away...

Right, from Egypt.

Correct. They couldn't wait for the bread to arise.

Not arise.

That's what happened to Jesus later. Oh, yeah. Chinese culture and Jewish

culture is very similar.

We prioritize family, getting together, traditions, holidays.

And so our marriage that melded our cultures was very easy. Our families

super into it, and we loved to celebrate each other's religions and culture.

Can we have Ben and Jerry's? You can pick a dessert or you can pick TV.

TV. Okay, bye.

Bye. See you. We don't want to be here.

See you. Never want to be here.

I'm going upstairs.

Zoe is a tornado tonight.

Yeah. Cheers.

So, Taco Tuesday.

They keep saying to me, like, you know, you don't.

Engage you're not speaking up. You're you know you're so quiet.

You need to speak up in this group Why do I have to get to a point to like

scream? Why can't I speak with a soft voice and people listen?

This group wants me to scream all the time I think that you

have a lot of opinions. I think you have a lot of very strong opinions.

I do. And I think that you just need to share that with them.

You know, on the other side of just being called out for that, which is

very annoying, is, like, the girls are all so skinny now.

Are you the incredible shrinking woman? You're so skinny. No, are you?

Oh, my God.

I want to be the incredibly shrinking woman. Look how skinny she is.

Sometimes I can't focus. Like, I'm comparing, looking at everyone's bodies.

Like, what does mine look like compared to theirs? Do I do it all the time?

Right. So then I don't know what they're saying. Yeah. It's not like I don't

want to pay attention.

L .A. is a city that is obsessed with beauty and bodies.

I think you're too self -conscious.

I work very hard to feel comfortable in groups that I'm in, and I finally

started to feel more myself and relaxed.

And now I'm back to having this severe distraction, which triggers me in a way

that no one in this group could possibly understand.

And it's very hard for me. It's affecting me a lot. I'm distracted

so self -conscious.

Yeah. Yes.

But I'm working on that.

Yeah. All right.

So, Jeff's coming.

That's so amazing. I completely forgot he was coming back. I know. I've been

tracking him. Okay.

And?

I haven't really talked to him. Okay. They got, he saw her.

Yeah. I totally think my brother still resents me for being part of his

Crystal is feeling some regret.

You know how I feel. I feel bad.

Thank you.

You know, Jeff has always been my big brother.

And then I don't know when it was, when we got married, when we had kids, when

my dad got sick. It shifted to where I suddenly was like, not even like a big

sister, like a mom.

I was like, I just was like my mom. I just treated him like my son.

It comes from a good place, but it's also like I'm sure that I put pressure

on him that I shouldn't have.

I've been too controlling of my brother and too controlling of what I want for

him. So I really need to like check myself and really like take a step back

let him be.

Coming up.

I like to karaoke.

Stop it, you do?

Yeah. I'm a fearless.

What is, I don't know this song.

See,

and there's just a big old puddle right here.

I swear to the good Lord up above, this is God telling me something.

Hi. So dangerous out here.

How are you?

Hi. I'm Steve.

Nice to meet you. I've heard so much about you.

Gosh. Watch out. It's slippery.

I know. I'm trying not to die.

Don't die.

Don't die. I'll try not to. We just got here. Yeah.

Thank you. Would you like something to drink?

Well, let me sit down real quick.

I'm putting more trust in Alessandra.

I'm going to be delightful and...

Cheery. You look great, by the way. Thank you. I like your blazer.

Okay, cool.

Give more compliments.

They seem to like that.

Always like a silver head of hair.

What do men want to hear? I don't know, obviously. I'm not good at this.

Did you guys have any questions? I don't care.

You don't care? I just don't eat meat. How about we get the... I just don't eat

meat or chicken other than that. Or spicy food. Okay. Or a lot of other

Salmon. Absolutely.

Fantastic. All right, thank you. Absolutely.

Can I ask you a question? Yeah, sure.

So what do you look for in a potential partner?

Like, what are some of the qualities?

Besides being, like, dashingly handsome or something like that.

What is it? You say that because...

You know, an outgoing person that can kind of keep up with me, that likes to

travel, likes to laugh.

I think I saw you play tennis, right? I do. Yeah. Do you listen to podcasts?

I like true crime, like I like listening to true crime. Yes, me too.

I like the murder mystery one.

I played a dead guy.

You did? Yeah. You just laid there? I mean, there's a lot more to it than

You have to not breathe.

I like to karaoke.

I'm a huge karaoke -er. Get out of here. I have like a list of like 300 songs on

my phone right now. Stop it, you do? Yeah. Let me see your list.

Okay, I may have had it wrong about Alessandro.

He's a little quirky and told me to do some weird things. However, I might be

trusting the process right now because Steve could be a winner here. I don't

know this song, Nookie.

Both the mustard -glazed salmon.

Oh, thank you.

Enjoy. So that's kind of cool.

Are you liking the salmon?

Yeah. Okay.

I'd like to talk to you more after this, somehow.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah? Yeah. We talked, like, the whole time. Yeah.

I'm a talker. I'm a listener.

Well, that's it.

There you go.

So can I have your number? Yes. All right.

I have now broken the one -date wonder curve.

I just called you to see if you had my number.

Oh, you did? Oh, to see if I gave you the real number.

Yeah, no, it didn't buzz, though, or ring.

Oh, my phone's right here.

Yes, he did.

Thank you.

This outfit.

Oh, this is lovely.

Hi. Hi. How are you?

Thank you. Thank you.

Hello. How are we doing?

Good. Welcome to the Oaks at Lakeside. Can I get you anything besides water to

start? Any cocktails or anything? Water for me. Thank you. Thank you so much.

It's a little awkward.

I know. Do you want to look at the menu? No.

I mean, yeah, sure, let's do that. Sure.

Okay.

Yeah, what are you having? I think I'm going to do the Greek salad.

Oh, okay, that's good.

Um, to be honest with you, the food is secondary to me right now.

Yeah. So, yeah, I want to leave the floor to you because I know that, you

you've said that you don't feel like I hear you. And I really want to make sure

that not only I do, but you feel like I do. I appreciate that. So I would like

to go first.

We're on the both on the same page. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. The other

was tough on me.

And so far.

We're good. Why don't we order? Yeah. Do you have any questions about anything?

I think I'll just do the Greek salad.

Sure. Gnocchi pesto. Sure. Could I also get some tea?

Yeah. Like, what do you have?

Peppermint? We have hibiscus.

We have, like, dandelion. Oh, I'll do the hibiscus.

Hibiscus? Sure. Thank you.

Dandelion? You want to do that? Please. Thank you.

Thank you.

So, the other night, the word attack just hit me in the wrong...

in the wrong place.

You just attacked me for it. I did not attack you. Calm down. You and your

privilege, I can't. What does that mean? It means you're white and the words are

different. They have different connotations. They have different

Okay. There's certain words, when you point them at me, it has a complete

different impact.

You have to know who you're dealing with. There are three words you don't

black women. You don't say aggressive, you don't say attack, and you don't say

angry.

Because that's labeling us.

So I'm not here to educate you. That's not my job. I don't have the bandwidth

do it.

But I feel like you need to be aware of who you're talking to and when you're

talking to them and what you say.

When we use the word, and you've heard it hundreds of times in this group, I

have been on the receiving end of what feels like...

being attacked you keep attacking my character i cannot get attacked in this

group continuously i wasn't trying to attack you i was actually trying to help

you i understand that that's not the way it sounds you know exactly you know

exactly towards me what the intent is i don't know if it's ever been said to you

i don't know i didn't i didn't take notice because that's exactly what the

night was it was innocent my intention i didn't Listen, if it's offended you in

any way.

Oh, it has. That's why we're here.

That's why I reacted the way I reacted. I mean, I was emotional for two days. I

went to bed crying. I woke up crying. I drove to the beach because I couldn't

figure out why I was so triggered by that.

But I was absolutely triggered by that.

Do you believe that I said that with bad intention?

Yeah. Do you believe I said that?

Because why else would you say it?

Garcelle. Why else would you say it? Have you not heard other people use the

word attack? I'm talking about you and me. I know, but you're saying, why would

I say it? Like, it's unusual.

I feel like you're, there's, there's something.

I want to listen to everything you have to say. I also feel like I need to be

able to defend myself.

So, if.

You haven't finished.

I want you to get it all out.

But some of the things that you're saying right now, they're not only

they're incredibly hurtful.

This is exactly why she gets under my skin.

She says she wants to hear, she wants to understand, but the minute I start

talking, she's on the defense, and she's not listening.

I feel like...

What I feel, there's a pattern with you that I don't know whether you're aware

or not, but I'm just going to be completely blunt.

It feels like an unconscious Karen behavior with you.

I'm just going to be completely blunt.

It feels like an unconscious Karen behavior with you.

This is a very, very serious, dangerous accusation. It's

hurtful. And that accusation holds a lot of implications.

And I'm not feeling comfortable with this at all.

So how so? I feel like.

Two years ago, we were talking about people of color. We've had a lot of

that work for us that are very multicultural. I've had a lot of black

Hispanic and Filipino.

But is the brown people only help at your house?

No. Okay. In fact, my mother's best friend is black.

Awesome. I just wanted to clarify that.

Has there been growth since the last time you were like, People of color have

worked for you. I don't know why you keep raising this. Because it feels to

like there's something that you're... What does it feel like? I don't know

exactly. That I'm racist? I'm not labeling you. But there's an implication

No, you know what? If there's racist undertone, that's not my fault.

I'm not calling you anything. Because if it's simply about me using a word that

triggered you, if that's what this is about, then I'm apologizing. But it

like there's something more.

I mean, you do realize I'm Jewish, Garcelle.

What does that have to do with anything?

Well, you reduced me to privilege that night. I was reduced to privilege. You

don't have a privileged life, Doreen? We all have a privileged life. Yes. So do

you. Right.

We all are very privileged in this group. You're a child of the world. You

four different languages. Why don't you understand that being in my shoes is

different from being in your shoes? I most certainly understand that. And I've

never suggested otherwise.

What I'm saying by that is I would have thought that...

both being from marginalized communities, that we would have some

Far more than differences.

Because it does seem like you are trying to... I'm not trying to do anything.

It doesn't feel that way.

Well, then that's on you. Thank you so much.

Well, it definitely feels like everything is on me right now. Okay.

Garcelle, to me there's a little bit of a difference... Why do you say my name

so much?

Because that's what I do.

Okay. That's what I do. Okay. I mean, that's what I do. Like, I'm the only one

here.

That's what I do. Okay. If that's something else that's going to trigger

then I'll try very consciously not to.

I don't want you walking on eggshells with me. But you're making me feel that

way. You are making me feel that way, Garcelle.

I'm telling you, you're making me feel that way.

There's something that you've just been getting under my skin.

Yeah. And I think with the things you say and I think how you say them and I

think the last straw was you saying that I attacked you.

I don't know how we're going to move forward, but I'm going to try because I

don't hate you. I just feel like I needed to say that what happened the

day really triggered me and it really bothered me.

I'm very sorry that it triggered you and it hurt you.

And I mean that genuinely.

I would never want to hurt anyone intentionally.

I believe that.

I just think the choice of words was horrible.

Well, I appreciate you saying you believe that.

This was a learning lesson for me.

I was unaware.

And I know now I need to be more aware of what I'm saying and who I'm saying it

to.

We're going to be good.

We're going to be good.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. To our amazing trip.

Welcome to Casa Lote.

No.

Somebody take a picture.

Would you ever date a woman?

No. Would you?

Yep. Let's talk about sex.

Oh, my God.

No. Jack brought it up.

There are elements I understand. There are also elements that I don't consider

are PTSD.

I consider they're more obnoxious.

Oh, anxious.

I don't know. I really don't know if I can do it.

You got it.

Her small esophagus.

There is a medical reason why this is going on. Uh -huh. I want to understand.

I'm done. But small esophagus is not the reason. You can say that to a lay

person, but if you say that to someone in medicine, you look stupid.