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So what was the big thing that happened
in the last year?
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I had a baby.
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And that? I did IVF. Okay, that's what I
figured.
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Transparency. That's what I figured. I
did IVF. I had eggs frozen a long time
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ago. Okay. And it's funny, too, because
I was actually not going to keep them.
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Because, you know, at a certain point in
time, you say, well, I mean, I'm, you
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know, 102.
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I can't have a kid anymore. So why keep
these eggs frozen, you know? Yeah, yeah,
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yeah.
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So it was getting that time that I said,
you know, is it really worth?
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It's like almost $800 a year to – To
keep and maintain? Yeah. Okay.
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So I said, eh, it's – Storage units are
more expensive. Yeah, exactly.
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You pay like $200 a month.
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Anyway. Well, I mean, yeah, but then,
you know, you also have to consider the
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health of the egg. Sure, the viability
of it. Yeah.
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So – How old were you when you got that,
when you got them frozen?
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Or how long ago was that?
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Mid -40s, early 40s. Okay. I mean, still
considered old.
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Yeah. I mean, for – Childbearing. Yeah.
Still considered old.
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But you were still producing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything was still
healthy and good to go.
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I actually tried doing it another way.
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There's a doctor in Greece for an IVF
clinic that they do
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platelet -rich plasma, you know, PRP.
And what they do is they spin it,
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get your plasma, and inject it into your
ovaries.
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Because I wanted to.
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try the natural way true because at the
time i was with a boyfriend it's the
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most fun way i think too yeah i mean
random cool it would be the first baby
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him and yeah you know um i think i don't
like to say that god intervened or
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whatever because i think that whatever
comes our way um god gives us the tools
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to survive it yeah yeah or or the
universe or whatever you want whatever
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whatever you want to believe yeah you
know he ignited in me something that i I
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just had to confront, you know, and that
was that I really wanted to have a
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baby. I wanted to have a baby 28 years
ago when my daughter was two. Yeah. You
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know, my daughter will be 30 in
November.
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Okay. And.
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Were you already in this mindset when
you came on the show last year?
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Oh, yeah. No, I knew. So you were like
on that pathway.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Uh, when was it that I came on the show?
I think it was February of last year.
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Okay. So we met at ABN and then you
came. My transfer was in May.
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Okay. So I knew I was already doing it.
I went to the doctor in Greece, tried
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that. It did not work. So I said, well,
fuck it. And then I was just going to
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give up after the boyfriend situation.
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And then I just had a heart to heart
with myself. And I said, you know, this
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something I really want. And financially
I'm in the.
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In the ability zone, right? Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
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When I had my daughter, ooh, I'm going
to tell you, for as tumultuous as our
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relationship can be, we have a very
concrete relationship. She will always
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my number one. Yes.
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Because we survived things together.
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Yeah. You know, we survived so much
together. And yes, I wish it had not
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that way.
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But if wishes were fishes, right?
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We did it. We survived.
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We are who we are now, and it's a
fantastic thing that we have learned and
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grown, and this is where we are.
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That's just the way it is. Yeah, yeah.
No, life deals you cards, and you play
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the cards you're dealt. Exactly,
exactly.
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But fortunately, I don't have to replay
that because now I'm financially
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capable, and I can make money and not
leave my home.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the beauties
of what you do. You know, and I make
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enough that I can afford a nanny. Yeah.
So that's the direction I went. You can
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be here to do this.
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Precisely. You know. And a little bit
late because the nanny was late. It's
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okay. It's okay.
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But so I decided to have a baby.
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It was, you know, I did sit down and
really, really think hard and long about
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it. And I asked everybody in my life,
what do you think of this? And some
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were like.
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I'm sure that you got.
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And other people were like, well, hell,
you know, if that's what you want,
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Debra, do it.
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I mean. Call me Debra or Ryan, whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But so I ended up doing the IVF.
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They created embryos. They took, I had
20 eggs. Okay.
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On freezer.
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Okay. And they took 10. I specifically
told them not to take the full batch.
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Yeah. Why?
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I don't know, but something tells me to
reserve some just in case it hits the
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fan. Yeah. So, and maybe not for me. You
never know. Like, my daughter could
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have a problem. Your genetic code should
live on.
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You know, it's funny.
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Well, you know. The essence that is you
should keep going. You just never know.
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No, I know. Like, I have a daughter. I
might, you know, or maybe my, I had a
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son. And, you know, you never know.
People.
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People, the infertility rates going up,
you just never know.
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So. So they made eggs. Yes. They took my
eggs. They made embryos. Took 10 eggs,
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made embryos. Five of them survived the
process.
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Okay. Apparently it's a difficult
process. So they implant all of them at
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No, no. Okay. I ended up with two boys,
three girls. Okay. Yes, I wanted to know
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the sex.
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Okay. I chose a boy. Okay.
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They take one.
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And they implanted. Okay.
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This fertility center said they do not
do twins, which I wanted to do very bad
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because I thought, you know, let's get
her done. I didn't want to have an only
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child, to be honest with you.
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There's a special connection twins have
with each other. Of course. Like even
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more so than regular siblings.
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Yes, of course.
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Of course.
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But I really was doing it for ease of.
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my age sure you know let's let's knock
it out that way i don't have to by the
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way um i will be doing it again next
year really yeah oh wow okay uh i don't
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like kids being only children yeah i
think they deserve a friend and they
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deserve somebody who's close in their
age and a little bit of competition yeah
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and yes they deserve somebody close
enough that they're still because now
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like your son has a almost 30 year old
sister yeah who could who might Could be
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a mom. Could be. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I
mean, old enough to be a mother. Yeah.
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Double. Yeah. I mean, kids are having 15
years old having kids. Yeah.
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Exactly. She can twice over be a mother.
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So they implanted that. It worked. It
went well.
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I'm going to tell you it was rough for a
bit.
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Yeah. I was going to ask you. How was
the pregnancy?
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Oh, my God. The pregnancy was great.
Really? Okay. But the first part of the
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pregnancy, they are.
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The pre -pregnancy, they build up your
placenta. You do injectables.
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I had to wear this patch of
nitroglycerin.
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Oh, my God.
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That was the worst, I think. Wow.
Because it gives you a really bad
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What it's doing is it's increasing blood
flow. Okay. So it's either for heart
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patients.
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I think it's if you're starting to have
a heart attack. Yeah, because they give
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nitroglycerin pills.
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Right, and you put it under your tongue
and it brings you out of it. But I want
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to say it's because it increases blood
flow.
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But anyway, it was building the
placenta. That's what they were focused
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building the lining of my uterus. And I
don't know that it was my natural
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process was bad.
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But they wanted to be sure that it was
tip -top so that I didn't lose it. The
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best chance of success.
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Correct. Correct.
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And the pregnancy went great.
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Really? Oh, yeah.
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I'm going to say that the only time I
really had, like, because it's not my
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first rodeo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. So I know, you know, for morning
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sickness, it's because you're hungry.
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Yeah. So eat something. And, like, just
make sure that right when you get up,
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you drink something or eat something so
that something's on your stomach.
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But would you say your body was a little
different in your, say, late 20s than
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when it was now? Oh, a thousand percent,
yeah.
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I had my daughter when I was 24.
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Okay, so mid -20s, yeah.
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Yeah, and yes, a thousand times over
there were differences. Yeah.
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