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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:04,042 WILLIAM SHATNER: Buried alive, in total darkness, 2 00:00:04,208 --> 00:00:07,125 with no way to escape. 3 00:00:07,250 --> 00:00:10,792 Invisible forces with demonic intent 4 00:00:10,958 --> 00:00:13,250 that control your mind and body. 5 00:00:13,417 --> 00:00:17,792 And ordinary objects with supernatural powers 6 00:00:17,958 --> 00:00:22,042 that leave a trail of death and destruction. 7 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:27,167 Fear. It's a universal emotion, 8 00:00:27,375 --> 00:00:30,875 human emotion, that is often essential to our very survival. 9 00:00:31,042 --> 00:00:33,875 Our biological drive to stay safe is designed 10 00:00:34,083 --> 00:00:36,500 to help protect us from danger, 11 00:00:36,625 --> 00:00:38,875 both real and imagined. 12 00:00:39,083 --> 00:00:42,833 We might be startled or even amused at times 13 00:00:43,042 --> 00:00:47,917 by loud noises, dark places, or confined spaces, 14 00:00:48,042 --> 00:00:50,042 but what happens 15 00:00:50,208 --> 00:00:53,000 when the stuff of nightmares is not a dream, 16 00:00:53,167 --> 00:00:56,958 but instead, a terrifying reality? 17 00:00:57,125 --> 00:01:00,833 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 18 00:01:00,958 --> 00:01:03,125 ♪ ♪ 19 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:16,625 SHATNER: All over the world, various cultures 20 00:01:16,792 --> 00:01:18,083 practice a period of mourning 21 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:20,000 between the time of a person's death 22 00:01:20,208 --> 00:01:22,708 and when they're finally laid to rest. 23 00:01:22,875 --> 00:01:24,750 This is a time to pay respects, 24 00:01:24,958 --> 00:01:26,792 to process one's loss, 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,125 and in some cases, to quell the fear 26 00:01:30,292 --> 00:01:33,208 that the dearly departed might still be alive, 27 00:01:33,375 --> 00:01:38,042 and prematurely placed six feet under. 28 00:01:39,083 --> 00:01:42,833 MARK P. DONNELLY: The fear of being buried alive was a fairly common fear 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 up until 20th century medical practices 30 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:48,583 meant fewer people were, in fact, buried alive. 31 00:01:50,417 --> 00:01:54,458 It was most common in 18th and 19th century 32 00:01:54,625 --> 00:01:57,000 Europe and America, 33 00:01:57,167 --> 00:01:59,875 mostly due to the medical practices 34 00:02:00,042 --> 00:02:02,125 and the burial practices at the time. 35 00:02:02,292 --> 00:02:06,333 This was when medical diagnoses could get things wrong, 36 00:02:06,458 --> 00:02:09,958 and people were, in fact, buried alive, 37 00:02:10,083 --> 00:02:13,083 and stories of that became sensationalized, 38 00:02:13,208 --> 00:02:16,208 and therefore, the panic would spread. 39 00:02:17,542 --> 00:02:19,875 JOSEPH LAYCOCK: In the 19th century, the great fear 40 00:02:20,042 --> 00:02:21,500 of being buried alive 41 00:02:21,667 --> 00:02:24,250 was partly because this was the age of cholera. 42 00:02:24,458 --> 00:02:26,542 Cholera causes severe diarrhea, 43 00:02:26,708 --> 00:02:28,917 which can deplete all the electrolytes in your body 44 00:02:29,042 --> 00:02:32,458 and, in extreme cases, can induce a coma. 45 00:02:32,625 --> 00:02:35,167 So, sometimes, people appear dead, 46 00:02:35,375 --> 00:02:37,792 and they're actually in this sort of vegetative state, 47 00:02:37,917 --> 00:02:39,167 and they can come out of it. 48 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,583 But if you bury them, 49 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:45,125 then you've buried them alive, and that is a terrible death. 50 00:02:46,625 --> 00:02:48,208 SHATNER: Historically, the thought of being trapped 51 00:02:48,375 --> 00:02:50,333 in a wooden box, beneath thousands of pounds 52 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:53,333 of dirt, with no possibility of escape, 53 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,292 was so widespread, that this fear was actually given a name. 54 00:02:57,458 --> 00:03:00,500 It's called taphephobia. 55 00:03:00,708 --> 00:03:03,292 Taphephobia is the idea of simply just 56 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:05,333 the fear of being buried alive. 57 00:03:05,458 --> 00:03:08,333 Edgar Allan Poe, who wrote about premature burial 58 00:03:08,542 --> 00:03:11,167 was terrified of being buried alive. 59 00:03:11,375 --> 00:03:13,708 Frédéric Chopin, the composer, wanted to be 60 00:03:13,875 --> 00:03:16,125 stabbed in the heart and bled out to make sure 61 00:03:16,292 --> 00:03:19,667 that he was dead when doctors believed that he was. 62 00:03:19,875 --> 00:03:23,500 And even George Washington was so afraid of being buried alive 63 00:03:23,583 --> 00:03:26,167 that he had written in his will that his body had to remain 64 00:03:26,292 --> 00:03:30,000 in bed for three days after they thought he was dead 65 00:03:30,167 --> 00:03:32,458 to make sure that he didn't come back. 66 00:03:32,625 --> 00:03:36,375 KEITH EGGENER: It was estimated by the 1890s 67 00:03:36,542 --> 00:03:41,417 that some two percent of people being buried were buried alive. 68 00:03:41,625 --> 00:03:45,125 Now, this is a gross exaggeration, no doubt, 69 00:03:45,292 --> 00:03:47,000 but it was believed at the time. 70 00:03:47,208 --> 00:03:49,250 Enough so, that organizations 71 00:03:49,458 --> 00:03:50,667 like the London Association 72 00:03:50,792 --> 00:03:53,083 for the Prevention of Premature Burial 73 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:55,833 was founded in 1896. 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,667 And they lobbied parliament for greater diligence 75 00:03:58,875 --> 00:04:01,167 on the part of doctors to make sure that doctors 76 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:04,083 were verifying death. 77 00:04:05,125 --> 00:04:08,000 SHATNER: Despite doctors' best efforts, it was simply difficult 78 00:04:08,167 --> 00:04:12,042 at the time to determine whether a person was alive or dead. 79 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:14,542 And so, in order to ease people's minds, 80 00:04:14,708 --> 00:04:19,500 authorities in Europe were forced to take drastic measures. 81 00:04:24,083 --> 00:04:28,333 Within this storied city, lies the Vienna Central Cemetery, 82 00:04:28,542 --> 00:04:31,458 the second largest cemetery in the entire world. 83 00:04:31,625 --> 00:04:34,083 In the heart of the cemetery stands a small building 84 00:04:34,250 --> 00:04:36,583 that today houses a museum. 85 00:04:36,750 --> 00:04:42,583 But in the 19th century, it was referred to as a Leichenhaus. 86 00:04:43,542 --> 00:04:47,333 The Leichenhaus was a kind of mortuary where 87 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:51,833 corpses were kept for a period, typically about three days, 88 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:53,375 and watched over by attendants 89 00:04:53,542 --> 00:04:56,458 to make sure that a person was truly dead 90 00:04:56,583 --> 00:05:00,875 and wouldn't be buried alive in a state of coma or catalepsy. 91 00:05:27,958 --> 00:05:30,500 SHATNER: In modern times, it may sound a little disturbing 92 00:05:30,625 --> 00:05:33,333 to hear that doctors once stabbed their patients 93 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,292 in order to determine whether they were alive or dead. 94 00:05:36,375 --> 00:05:38,417 But the truth is that the hysteria 95 00:05:38,583 --> 00:05:40,750 about being buried alive was so prevalent 96 00:05:40,917 --> 00:05:43,750 that an entire industry sprang up to help calm 97 00:05:43,917 --> 00:05:46,458 such fears by producing bizarre contraptions 98 00:05:46,667 --> 00:05:50,500 that were known as safety coffins. 99 00:05:50,708 --> 00:05:52,458 LAYCOCK: If you were afraid of being buried alive, 100 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:54,625 the solution was the safety coffin. 101 00:05:54,792 --> 00:05:57,708 And this began very simply with a bell 102 00:05:57,875 --> 00:06:01,667 tied to a string that went down under the earth into the coffin. 103 00:06:01,833 --> 00:06:04,667 And if you were buried alive, and you woke up in a coffin, 104 00:06:04,875 --> 00:06:06,667 you could pull that string, the bell would ring, 105 00:06:06,875 --> 00:06:09,875 and hopefully, somebody would hear it and come dig you out. 106 00:06:10,083 --> 00:06:12,250 And this tradition is where we get the expression 107 00:06:12,417 --> 00:06:14,458 "saved by the bell." 108 00:06:14,625 --> 00:06:16,500 And if you had more money, 109 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:18,500 safety coffins could get more elaborate. 110 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:21,667 They could add air tubes, they could add windows, 111 00:06:21,875 --> 00:06:24,750 so you would have some lights inside the-the coffin. 112 00:06:24,917 --> 00:06:26,833 And there were even cases of people buried 113 00:06:27,042 --> 00:06:29,875 with a key in their pocket, so they could unlock the casket 114 00:06:30,042 --> 00:06:32,583 from the inside, if this happens. 115 00:06:33,583 --> 00:06:35,167 EGGENER: There were loads of patents 116 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:37,333 taken up for these safety coffins. 117 00:06:37,542 --> 00:06:39,750 And they would include devices like 118 00:06:39,917 --> 00:06:42,042 little flags that could be raised. 119 00:06:42,208 --> 00:06:44,292 Sometimes safety coffins included 120 00:06:44,458 --> 00:06:47,292 food or water, they would have breathing tubes, 121 00:06:47,458 --> 00:06:49,750 they might even include periscopes. 122 00:06:50,833 --> 00:06:54,167 One of the best-known ones, really, belonged to 123 00:06:54,375 --> 00:06:56,250 a doctor named Timothy Clark from Vermont. 124 00:06:56,417 --> 00:07:00,833 He came up with his own safety coffin device. 125 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,500 He had a set of stone stairs installed next to his grave 126 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:08,250 that could be opened up by a concrete block 127 00:07:08,417 --> 00:07:09,792 that was sitting beside it. 128 00:07:09,917 --> 00:07:12,000 That way, anyone could get down to rescue him 129 00:07:12,167 --> 00:07:14,125 if he needed to be rescued. 130 00:07:14,292 --> 00:07:17,250 But the real kicker to the whole thing 131 00:07:17,417 --> 00:07:20,167 was that he had a glass window installed 132 00:07:20,375 --> 00:07:23,417 directly over his face, set into the stone. 133 00:07:23,542 --> 00:07:25,833 However, he died in 1893, 134 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:28,000 and the doctors did not make a mistake. 135 00:07:28,167 --> 00:07:30,042 He really was dead. 136 00:07:30,208 --> 00:07:34,333 SHATNER: Safety coffins may seem like a quaint fad from a bygone era 137 00:07:34,542 --> 00:07:37,083 that has no relevance in our world today. 138 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:41,042 But believe it or not, there have been some recent cases 139 00:07:41,208 --> 00:07:46,500 in which people appear to have been mistakenly buried alive. 140 00:07:46,708 --> 00:07:51,083 Being buried alive is very, very rare, uh, 141 00:07:51,208 --> 00:07:52,417 at least in our own time, 142 00:07:52,625 --> 00:07:54,792 but it does still occasionally happen. 143 00:07:54,958 --> 00:07:58,625 As recently as 2018, there was a case in Brazil 144 00:07:58,792 --> 00:08:01,333 where a woman woke up in her grave, 145 00:08:01,542 --> 00:08:04,667 and is thought to have survived for 11 days there. 146 00:08:05,708 --> 00:08:08,500 TAYLOR: Being buried alive doesn't happen nearly as often 147 00:08:08,667 --> 00:08:11,375 as it used to, but if you think about it, 148 00:08:11,542 --> 00:08:13,500 waking up in a coffin would be probably one of 149 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:16,667 the most terrifying things that could ever happen to you. 150 00:08:17,917 --> 00:08:20,833 SHATNER: The very idea that a small mistake due to negligence 151 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:22,708 or misdiagnosis 152 00:08:22,917 --> 00:08:26,167 could cause one to be buried alive 153 00:08:26,292 --> 00:08:27,958 is a terrifying thought. 154 00:08:28,125 --> 00:08:32,833 But it's often what we can't see that instills fear the most. 155 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,875 Like in the case of an ancient predator 156 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,458 who still lurks beneath the ocean's surface 157 00:08:39,042 --> 00:08:44,125 with a frightening history of hunting for human flesh. 158 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:56,667 SHATNER: 25-year-old Charles Vansant 159 00:08:56,833 --> 00:08:59,292 is swimming in the brisk Atlantic waters 160 00:08:59,458 --> 00:09:01,542 off the coast of this resort community... 161 00:09:02,583 --> 00:09:05,625 ...when he's suddenly attacked by a massive shark. 162 00:09:08,417 --> 00:09:10,625 Lifeguards pull Vansant from the water 163 00:09:10,833 --> 00:09:12,625 and see that his left thigh 164 00:09:12,833 --> 00:09:14,042 has been stripped of its flesh 165 00:09:14,167 --> 00:09:17,667 by a massive set of razor-sharp jaws. 166 00:09:18,875 --> 00:09:20,208 CAPUZZO: The story is that they had to almost 167 00:09:20,375 --> 00:09:22,000 wrestle him away from the shark. 168 00:09:22,208 --> 00:09:24,750 As they pulled him ashore with the shark following him still, 169 00:09:24,917 --> 00:09:26,875 his father, who was a doctor, operated on him 170 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:30,208 or tried to save his life, but he died of a flesh wound 171 00:09:30,417 --> 00:09:33,042 to a bite on his thigh, actually, 172 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:35,083 and, uh, loss of blood. 173 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:38,708 SHATNER: The gory death of Charles Vansant 174 00:09:38,875 --> 00:09:43,208 was the first recorded fatal shark attack in U.S. history. 175 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:47,333 And then, on July 6th, 176 00:09:47,542 --> 00:09:51,000 a mere five days after Vansant was killed, 177 00:09:51,125 --> 00:09:54,000 there was another attack along the Jersey Shore. 178 00:09:54,167 --> 00:09:58,292 Charles Bruder, who's a 27-year-old 179 00:09:58,458 --> 00:10:00,250 Swiss native who was in the Army, 180 00:10:00,375 --> 00:10:03,500 went for a swim, and 1,200 feet out, 181 00:10:03,708 --> 00:10:06,667 in the middle of the day, was attacked 182 00:10:06,875 --> 00:10:08,333 and bitten by what appeared to be about 183 00:10:08,542 --> 00:10:10,417 an eight or nine foot great white shark. 184 00:10:10,583 --> 00:10:13,000 Severed his legs and a part of his torso. 185 00:10:13,208 --> 00:10:16,167 By the time the lifeguards got out there, 186 00:10:16,333 --> 00:10:18,292 there was hardly anything to lift into the boat. 187 00:10:19,833 --> 00:10:23,167 SHATNER: This second deadly attack was widely reported 188 00:10:23,375 --> 00:10:25,333 in newspapers across the country 189 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,000 and set off a nationwide panic. 190 00:10:29,208 --> 00:10:31,000 Many people believed it was no longer safe 191 00:10:31,125 --> 00:10:33,875 to swim in the ocean off the coast of New Jersey, 192 00:10:34,042 --> 00:10:38,000 and several beaches were closed by the authorities. 193 00:10:38,125 --> 00:10:40,500 The public reaction was hysterical. 194 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:43,000 There were calls all the way up to President Wilson. 195 00:10:43,208 --> 00:10:45,792 Woodrow Wilson had a cabinet meeting 196 00:10:45,958 --> 00:10:48,958 and talked to the early men who founded the Coast Guard 197 00:10:49,125 --> 00:10:51,042 about eradicating all the sharks on the east coast. 198 00:10:51,208 --> 00:10:54,292 Bounties were given by towns and cities 199 00:10:54,458 --> 00:10:58,833 and anybody that could kill any shark could get $100. 200 00:10:59,042 --> 00:11:02,875 You had fisherman going out, catching and killing sharks. 201 00:11:03,083 --> 00:11:05,500 And it wasn't just in New Jersey. 202 00:11:05,583 --> 00:11:08,000 It was all up and down the Eastern Seaboard 203 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:12,583 and even infiltrated into the coastal states; 204 00:11:12,750 --> 00:11:14,500 Texas, Louisiana, 205 00:11:14,667 --> 00:11:18,833 and as far as the Pacific coast of North America. 206 00:11:20,042 --> 00:11:22,750 SHATNER: Less than one week after Charles Bruder was killed, 207 00:11:22,875 --> 00:11:26,875 on July 12th, three more people were attacked 208 00:11:27,042 --> 00:11:31,208 by what many witnesses claimed was an eight or nine-foot shark. 209 00:11:31,417 --> 00:11:34,958 Curiously, all five of these incidents took place 210 00:11:35,125 --> 00:11:38,417 along a 50-mile stretch off the coast of New Jersey. 211 00:11:38,583 --> 00:11:39,958 Because of their proximity, 212 00:11:40,125 --> 00:11:43,542 and the similarities between eyewitness accounts, 213 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:47,167 many began to wonder whether the horrific attacks 214 00:11:47,333 --> 00:11:51,667 could have been the work of a single killer shark. 215 00:11:51,792 --> 00:11:54,292 The New Jersey attacks are so strange 216 00:11:54,375 --> 00:11:57,375 'cause sharks don't kill people with any kind of regularity, 217 00:11:57,542 --> 00:11:58,958 and nobody witnesses it 218 00:11:59,125 --> 00:12:00,208 with any kind of regularity when it happens. 219 00:12:00,375 --> 00:12:03,292 But the concept of a rogue shark 220 00:12:03,458 --> 00:12:05,083 that kills or injures one person 221 00:12:05,208 --> 00:12:07,625 and that gets a taste for human flesh 222 00:12:07,792 --> 00:12:10,000 and goes after another like a serial killer, 223 00:12:10,208 --> 00:12:11,958 the Jersey Shore may be the best evidence 224 00:12:12,125 --> 00:12:13,667 we have that that's ever happened. 225 00:12:13,833 --> 00:12:16,667 SHATNER: On July 14th, 1916, 226 00:12:16,833 --> 00:12:19,417 two weeks after the first fatal attack, 227 00:12:19,583 --> 00:12:21,875 a taxidermist named Michael Schleisser 228 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:26,583 caught a seven and a half-foot, 325 pound great white shark 229 00:12:26,708 --> 00:12:30,042 off the northern end of the Jersey Shore. 230 00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:34,125 After cutting open its stomach, authorities found what appeared 231 00:12:34,292 --> 00:12:37,917 to be partially digested human remains. 232 00:12:38,875 --> 00:12:41,292 There are many who believe that this 233 00:12:41,417 --> 00:12:44,958 great white shark was responsible for all five attacks 234 00:12:45,083 --> 00:12:49,000 that took place, four of which were fatal. 235 00:12:49,083 --> 00:12:51,000 Fatal shark attacks on humans 236 00:12:51,208 --> 00:12:53,917 are seldom predatory for feeding. 237 00:12:54,042 --> 00:12:58,500 So what was going on that would cause a series of five attacks 238 00:12:58,708 --> 00:13:00,917 over a 11-day period? 239 00:13:01,083 --> 00:13:02,667 What was behind all of this? 240 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:05,750 People panicked. 241 00:13:05,917 --> 00:13:08,750 No one wanted to go in the ocean. 242 00:13:08,917 --> 00:13:12,875 So, its effect on individuals, citizens, was enormous. 243 00:13:14,042 --> 00:13:16,500 And it was something that, to this day, 244 00:13:16,625 --> 00:13:19,167 still has an effect on us. 245 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:23,125 SHATNER: The 1916 Jersey Shore attacks helped to popularize 246 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:27,000 the notion of sharks as deadly man-eaters. 247 00:13:27,167 --> 00:13:30,000 More than 50 years later, the killings inspired 248 00:13:30,208 --> 00:13:33,208 the 1974 novel Jaws by Peter Benchley, 249 00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:35,875 which became the basis of the blockbuster film 250 00:13:36,042 --> 00:13:37,625 made by Steven Spielberg 251 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:41,417 that terrorized generations of beachgoers. 252 00:13:42,875 --> 00:13:45,708 But despite their bad reputation, 253 00:13:45,875 --> 00:13:49,667 the truth is that sharks rarely kill humans. 254 00:13:49,875 --> 00:13:51,917 According to statistics gathered 255 00:13:52,125 --> 00:13:55,833 by the International Shark Attack File, on average, 256 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,958 there are only five fatal shark attacks worldwide per year. 257 00:14:00,125 --> 00:14:04,125 So why does the belief persist that some sharks 258 00:14:04,292 --> 00:14:07,042 are a serious threat to humans? 259 00:14:10,125 --> 00:14:13,750 NIALL McCANN: Sharks, unsurprisingly, have terrified people 260 00:14:13,875 --> 00:14:16,208 forever because 261 00:14:16,375 --> 00:14:19,208 sharks live an enormous amount of their life out of sight. 262 00:14:19,417 --> 00:14:21,958 Unlike terrestrial species that we can see, 263 00:14:22,125 --> 00:14:24,000 sharks live underwater, and the only time 264 00:14:24,208 --> 00:14:25,875 that we really interact with sharks 265 00:14:26,042 --> 00:14:28,167 is when they come to the surface, and that tends to be 266 00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:30,750 in antagonistic circumstances with people. 267 00:14:30,875 --> 00:14:33,208 Traditional island cultures 268 00:14:33,375 --> 00:14:37,167 have had multiple deities that have shark appearance, 269 00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:39,917 and that comes from an inherent fear 270 00:14:40,083 --> 00:14:42,000 that we are at risk of sharks. 271 00:14:42,167 --> 00:14:44,958 They have this power of life or death over us. 272 00:14:46,958 --> 00:14:49,167 TOK THOMPSON: Sharks are apex predators. 273 00:14:49,375 --> 00:14:52,125 The idea that sharks can be celebrated in a culture 274 00:14:52,250 --> 00:14:54,917 might seem a bit odd. After all, they do kill people. 275 00:14:55,083 --> 00:14:56,875 But there's a couple of things to consider. 276 00:14:57,042 --> 00:14:59,167 One is that they are recognized as apex predators, 277 00:14:59,375 --> 00:15:01,667 and this is something that people often aspire to. 278 00:15:01,833 --> 00:15:04,833 Also, the idea that these are apex predators 279 00:15:04,958 --> 00:15:07,000 and you'd better understand them. 280 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:11,125 COLLIER: Over the years, sharks, especially white sharks, 281 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:12,917 have been portrayed as killers. 282 00:15:13,083 --> 00:15:16,000 Unfortunately, people are killed from time to time. 283 00:15:16,208 --> 00:15:20,208 It has been postulated that white shark's hunting 284 00:15:20,375 --> 00:15:22,750 have similarities into the tactics 285 00:15:22,958 --> 00:15:25,250 utilized by serial killers. 286 00:15:26,292 --> 00:15:29,875 Serial killers use what is referred to as an anchor point, 287 00:15:30,042 --> 00:15:32,875 which is where they will sit and watch 288 00:15:33,042 --> 00:15:35,542 and pick their victim. 289 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:37,250 White sharks do the same thing. 290 00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:40,917 White sharks like to hunt stealth, 291 00:15:41,042 --> 00:15:44,000 where the intended victim can't see them. 292 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,667 CORBIN MAXEY: A lot of people often look at sharks and think 293 00:15:47,833 --> 00:15:49,333 that there's nothing going on, 294 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:52,000 but great whites are intelligent animals. 295 00:15:52,208 --> 00:15:54,458 We've watched great whites attack seals. 296 00:15:54,542 --> 00:15:57,417 And you'll find the older great whites 297 00:15:57,542 --> 00:16:01,167 will pick out specific individuals, usually young ones. 298 00:16:02,792 --> 00:16:04,500 It's very methodical. 299 00:16:04,625 --> 00:16:07,875 So, it is 100% possible 300 00:16:08,042 --> 00:16:10,458 that some sharks like the taste of people. 301 00:16:12,083 --> 00:16:14,667 SHATNER: Are there certain sharks that specifically 302 00:16:14,875 --> 00:16:17,875 and methodically hunt people? 303 00:16:18,042 --> 00:16:21,667 Some marine biologists have suggested it's possible. 304 00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:25,500 But if this theory is true, then what's even more disturbing 305 00:16:25,708 --> 00:16:28,000 is that a killer shark 306 00:16:28,208 --> 00:16:32,500 may keep stalking people for a very long, long time. 307 00:16:33,583 --> 00:16:36,542 Great whites can live to be 80-plus years old. 308 00:16:36,708 --> 00:16:39,458 There's some accounts of specimens being over 100. 309 00:16:39,583 --> 00:16:43,458 They study their subjects just like a serial killer. 310 00:16:43,583 --> 00:16:47,667 They learn from their mistakes just like a serial killer. 311 00:16:47,875 --> 00:16:49,167 That's terrifying. 312 00:16:50,292 --> 00:16:52,500 SHATNER: Coming face to face with a predator 313 00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:57,208 like a great white shark would be terrifying, to say the least. 314 00:16:57,375 --> 00:16:59,958 Just imagining an encounter 315 00:17:00,125 --> 00:17:02,250 with a dangerous creature can trigger our primal fear 316 00:17:02,375 --> 00:17:04,667 of being overtaken by something much stronger than us. 317 00:17:05,375 --> 00:17:09,292 Like in the case of a powerful presence 318 00:17:09,458 --> 00:17:13,542 that can possess the human soul. 319 00:17:24,083 --> 00:17:27,292 SHATNER: Anneliese Michel, a 20-year-old student 320 00:17:27,417 --> 00:17:29,333 at the University of Würzburg, 321 00:17:29,458 --> 00:17:32,500 claims that she's hearing disembodied voices... 322 00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:38,250 ...and seeing visions of the Devil. 323 00:17:39,208 --> 00:17:41,000 Before long, her family comes to believe 324 00:17:41,167 --> 00:17:43,042 that Anneliese suffers from 325 00:17:43,167 --> 00:17:45,708 a condition that defies understanding. 326 00:17:47,208 --> 00:17:49,167 Demonic possession. 327 00:17:51,042 --> 00:17:54,917 Anneliese Michel was indeed tormented 328 00:17:55,042 --> 00:17:56,958 by a possessing something. 329 00:17:57,125 --> 00:18:00,000 She spoke in a horrendously growly voice. 330 00:18:00,208 --> 00:18:02,292 (indistinct, growly gibberish) 331 00:18:12,042 --> 00:18:15,083 PICKNETT: Her eyes seemed to go black, 332 00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:17,833 and she had a great aversion 333 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,250 to holy statues, 334 00:18:19,417 --> 00:18:20,833 which there were a great many in the house 335 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,000 because they were very pious Catholics. 336 00:18:25,167 --> 00:18:28,792 And she was taken to a doctor, 337 00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:31,167 who said she might be epileptic, 338 00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:36,125 um, and she was taken to a psychiatrist, 339 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:38,792 and nothing changed in her life. 340 00:18:38,958 --> 00:18:40,958 In fact, she was getting worse and worse. 341 00:18:42,042 --> 00:18:45,500 BADER: Her family believed from the beginning she was possessed. 342 00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,167 The Catholic Church accepted that framework 343 00:18:48,292 --> 00:18:50,333 and engaged in the exorcism. 344 00:18:51,625 --> 00:18:54,333 Ultimately, Anneliese Michel died of starvation 345 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:57,875 and dehydration over the course of numerous exorcisms. 346 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,083 This was a case where that belief 347 00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:03,333 directly led to her death. 348 00:19:03,542 --> 00:19:07,792 What we cannot say for certain is what was really going on. 349 00:19:07,958 --> 00:19:09,500 I can't say that she for sure 350 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:11,875 was not possessed or for sure was. 351 00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:15,292 SHATNER: The story of Anneliese Michel 352 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:17,000 is perhaps the best-known case 353 00:19:17,167 --> 00:19:20,125 of an alleged demonic possession. 354 00:19:21,083 --> 00:19:23,500 But what happened to her? 355 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:26,542 Was she actually possessed by demons? 356 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:29,500 And if so, how does one identify 357 00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:34,667 when a person's mind and body have been taken over by Satan? 358 00:19:35,667 --> 00:19:37,625 RICHARD GALLAGHER: During the course of my career, 359 00:19:37,833 --> 00:19:41,500 I've witnessed a number of cases of possession in my life, but 360 00:19:41,708 --> 00:19:44,000 I definitely started as a skeptic. 361 00:19:44,167 --> 00:19:48,167 I certainly never thought I would see anything 362 00:19:48,375 --> 00:19:52,542 sort of paranormal or diabolic. 363 00:19:54,750 --> 00:19:58,167 A priest who, I guess, knew I was Catholic-- 364 00:19:58,375 --> 00:20:00,375 I don't exactly know how he got my name-- 365 00:20:00,542 --> 00:20:04,667 but he came to my office when I was at Cornell medical college. 366 00:20:04,833 --> 00:20:08,667 And he said, "Dr. Gallagher, I'd like you to, uh, 367 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:13,000 "evaluate someone for me 368 00:20:13,125 --> 00:20:16,375 who I think has a demonic attack." 369 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:20,167 And I said "Well, with all due respect, Father, 370 00:20:20,333 --> 00:20:23,542 "you know, I'm an academic psychiatrist, 371 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:26,500 and I'm pretty skeptical of those sort of things." 372 00:20:26,708 --> 00:20:28,792 And I remember what he said to me, he said, 373 00:20:28,958 --> 00:20:30,333 "You're the perfect man for the job 374 00:20:30,458 --> 00:20:33,708 because we want somebody who's skeptical." 375 00:20:33,875 --> 00:20:37,083 Of course, in the years since, you know, 25-plus years, 376 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:41,208 I've seen so much that I'm not a skeptic anymore. 377 00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:45,333 There are very strict criteria 378 00:20:45,458 --> 00:20:49,042 which clearly have to be present 379 00:20:49,208 --> 00:20:51,458 to distinguish the case 380 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,083 from a psychiatric or a medical disorder. 381 00:20:54,250 --> 00:20:58,250 You have to see something that is inexplicable 382 00:20:58,375 --> 00:21:02,333 in terms of purely materialist science. 383 00:21:02,542 --> 00:21:05,208 Things that could not possibly 384 00:21:05,375 --> 00:21:10,333 manifest in somebody who doesn't have a diabolic attack. 385 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:15,917 The first case sent to me was a woman who claimed 386 00:21:16,083 --> 00:21:18,583 that she would be lying in bed, 387 00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:23,625 and she would be pummeled by invisible forces. 388 00:21:26,208 --> 00:21:29,333 She and her husband were convinced that 389 00:21:29,458 --> 00:21:31,792 she was attacked by demons. 390 00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:36,500 So, we did a number of medical tests on her 391 00:21:36,708 --> 00:21:39,375 because she had bruises all over her body. 392 00:21:39,542 --> 00:21:42,333 And at the end of my evaluations-- 393 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:47,208 and she was a very sane, lovely woman-- 394 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:50,583 I said to the priest, "Look, this doesn't seem like 395 00:21:50,750 --> 00:21:54,167 a medical or psychiatric case, it doesn't seem possible." 396 00:21:54,375 --> 00:21:56,833 SHATNER: Mysterious bruises 397 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,958 inflicted by invisible forces? 398 00:22:00,125 --> 00:22:01,875 While that may sound like something 399 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,583 out of a Hollywood horror movie, 400 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:07,000 the truth is that accounts of possession 401 00:22:07,208 --> 00:22:09,667 have been recorded for thousands of years. 402 00:22:11,875 --> 00:22:14,458 Any scholar can tell you cases of demonic possession 403 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:15,958 go all the way back to the Bible. 404 00:22:17,042 --> 00:22:20,125 When Jesus had to cast the demon out of a man 405 00:22:20,292 --> 00:22:22,167 into a herd of swine, 406 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,333 who then ran off of a cliff and into the water. 407 00:22:24,542 --> 00:22:25,750 Very famous story in the Bible. 408 00:22:25,917 --> 00:22:28,208 And stories of demonic possession, 409 00:22:28,375 --> 00:22:30,667 they are not confined to Christianity. 410 00:22:32,375 --> 00:22:34,458 The idea of possession is inherently tied to the idea 411 00:22:34,625 --> 00:22:36,333 of Satan and demons, 412 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,167 and is an attempt by Satan to take over your personality 413 00:22:39,375 --> 00:22:40,583 to ultimately control you. 414 00:22:41,583 --> 00:22:43,458 Satan's end game, according to the Bible, 415 00:22:43,625 --> 00:22:46,333 is to draw as many people away from Christ as possible. 416 00:22:46,458 --> 00:22:49,375 So, his endgame is to get as many people 417 00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:51,333 to move from God to him. 418 00:22:51,458 --> 00:22:53,458 So, his ultimate role is as a tempter. 419 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,750 The film The Exorcist is believed to have really 420 00:22:58,958 --> 00:23:01,500 brought attention to the idea of possession, 421 00:23:01,708 --> 00:23:04,167 but it's not that those ideas started with The Exorcist. 422 00:23:04,333 --> 00:23:07,125 Those ideas spread with The Exorcist. 423 00:23:08,875 --> 00:23:11,625 MONSIGNOR STEPHEN ROSSETTI: The Exorcist was actually based on a real case. 424 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:16,167 It was a 12-year-old boy who was possessed, not a girl. 425 00:23:17,167 --> 00:23:20,583 How did he get possessed? Using a Ouija board for months. 426 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:22,958 Start doing something occult, 427 00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:26,000 that creates an inner vulnerability to evil. 428 00:23:27,917 --> 00:23:30,458 You're using magic that does not come from the Lord. 429 00:23:30,625 --> 00:23:33,583 You might not know this, but you're actually invoking 430 00:23:33,708 --> 00:23:36,375 the powers of Satan, whether you believe it or not. 431 00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:39,625 GALLAGHER: Most people who are possessed, 432 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:42,125 in a sense, they've invited it in, 433 00:23:42,250 --> 00:23:44,167 wittingly or unwittingly. 434 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:49,125 Possession is the most dramatic attack 435 00:23:49,292 --> 00:23:51,417 of a demon upon a human being. 436 00:23:51,542 --> 00:23:53,167 And in a way... 437 00:23:54,625 --> 00:23:57,792 ...spiritual warfare should be a concern of everybody. 438 00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:01,333 That we're all sort of in a battle 439 00:24:01,542 --> 00:24:05,083 in our own souls between goodness and evil. 440 00:24:09,375 --> 00:24:13,500 It's frightening 441 00:24:13,833 --> 00:24:16,583 to think that a person can be controlled by an evil entity. 442 00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:18,750 And while it's difficult to determine 443 00:24:18,875 --> 00:24:23,083 if possession is a spiritual or a psychological phenomenon, 444 00:24:23,250 --> 00:24:27,667 perhaps even more terrifying is the biological aberration 445 00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:31,917 that can turn the deceased into the walking dead. 446 00:24:38,833 --> 00:24:40,667 SHATNER: In this small village, 447 00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:43,667 Angelina Narcisse was going about her day 448 00:24:43,833 --> 00:24:45,167 when she was approached by a man 449 00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:47,583 claiming to be her brother, Clairvius. 450 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:50,500 It may sound like a heartwarming tale of reunion, 451 00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:52,875 but there was just one problem. 452 00:24:53,042 --> 00:24:56,500 Clairvius Narcisse had been dead and buried 453 00:24:56,667 --> 00:24:59,167 for nearly 20 years. 454 00:24:59,333 --> 00:25:02,542 DONNELLY: Clairvius was a Haitian man born in 1922. 455 00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:06,292 In the year 1962, 456 00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:08,625 he went to, uh, a hospital. 457 00:25:08,792 --> 00:25:11,875 His symptoms had been a severe fever, 458 00:25:12,042 --> 00:25:14,958 fatigue, and he'd been coughing up blood. 459 00:25:15,125 --> 00:25:18,167 His heart stopped, and he stopped breathing, 460 00:25:18,292 --> 00:25:20,958 and was declared dead and buried. 461 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,542 20 years later, a man claiming to be Clairvius 462 00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:29,333 showed up at his village and approached his family. 463 00:25:29,542 --> 00:25:33,750 In many respects, his story did check out. 464 00:25:33,875 --> 00:25:38,125 He beared a physical resemblance to the deceased. 465 00:25:38,292 --> 00:25:41,583 He went by a nickname that was only known to him 466 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,750 and his sister when they were very little kids. 467 00:25:43,917 --> 00:25:47,667 And so, he was able to relate certain details 468 00:25:47,875 --> 00:25:51,792 of his former life that seemed to add up. 469 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 SHATNER: But if Clairvius Narcisse died and was buried, 470 00:25:56,208 --> 00:25:58,792 then how on Earth was he alive and able to track down 471 00:25:58,958 --> 00:26:01,333 his sister almost 20 years later? 472 00:26:01,542 --> 00:26:04,667 Well, according to Clairvius, 473 00:26:04,833 --> 00:26:07,375 the reason he was not lying dead in his grave 474 00:26:07,583 --> 00:26:12,500 was that a voodoo priest had transformed him 475 00:26:12,667 --> 00:26:14,500 into a zombie. 476 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:17,000 In Haiti, a zombie is an individual 477 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:20,125 who's had their soul stolen by sorcery, 478 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:23,583 causing them to be sort of flung into a perpetual, uh, 479 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:28,583 place of purgatory through this incredible transition 480 00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:32,083 of death, rebirth, and return to the living, 481 00:26:32,208 --> 00:26:36,250 induced by the folk poison known as a pudzombie. 482 00:26:36,375 --> 00:26:37,750 It was a plethora of ingredients, 483 00:26:37,875 --> 00:26:41,208 including various plants 484 00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:43,833 and the toxin from a fish. 485 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,625 It selectively blocks sodium channels and nerves, 486 00:26:46,792 --> 00:26:50,708 bringing on paralysis until the moment of death. 487 00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:54,500 And yet, critically, if you get through that, 488 00:26:54,667 --> 00:26:57,667 you have nothing to worry about. 489 00:26:57,833 --> 00:27:00,708 This fascinating poison 490 00:27:00,875 --> 00:27:04,083 had made people appear to be dead. 491 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:07,875 In Haitian folklore specifically, 492 00:27:08,083 --> 00:27:10,667 the zombie is-is not a villain, but a victim. 493 00:27:10,833 --> 00:27:14,833 In these cases, people are turned into zombies 494 00:27:15,042 --> 00:27:18,333 and forced to work on sugarcane plantations in Haiti 495 00:27:18,458 --> 00:27:21,000 and elsewhere in the Caribbean, but primarily Haiti. 496 00:27:21,125 --> 00:27:23,792 And this has been a legend going back 497 00:27:23,958 --> 00:27:26,625 many, many, many years, centuries, in some cases. 498 00:27:26,792 --> 00:27:28,208 Certainly since the slave trade. 499 00:27:28,417 --> 00:27:31,083 And it was all considered to be just sort of a legend 500 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:34,833 until 1980, when Clairvius Narcisse emerged. 501 00:27:35,958 --> 00:27:38,625 He told the story, it made huge news, as you can imagine, 502 00:27:38,792 --> 00:27:40,708 because this is a first-person account 503 00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:42,667 of somebody who's a former zombie, right? 504 00:27:42,875 --> 00:27:45,000 So, this is wild. This is crazy. 505 00:27:45,917 --> 00:27:48,667 According to Clairvius, um, 506 00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:51,625 he had been paralyzed by a voodoo priest. 507 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:55,250 This was a result of being drugged, um, 508 00:27:55,417 --> 00:27:59,833 and this paste mixture that he was forced to consume 509 00:28:00,042 --> 00:28:03,042 kept him in this deathlike toper. 510 00:28:04,125 --> 00:28:06,625 Narcisse was buried, 511 00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:11,625 and the priest then dug him up from his grave 512 00:28:11,792 --> 00:28:16,667 and enslaved him on a sugarcane plantation for 20 years. 513 00:28:16,875 --> 00:28:20,208 DAVIS: From the Haitian point of view, the fate of a zombie 514 00:28:20,375 --> 00:28:23,792 is said to be to become an indentured servant. 515 00:28:23,917 --> 00:28:26,500 And losing your soul, losing your identity, 516 00:28:26,625 --> 00:28:27,875 your personal autonomy, 517 00:28:28,042 --> 00:28:32,417 combined to make this a fate worse than death. 518 00:28:32,542 --> 00:28:36,375 SHATNER: The story of Clairvius Narcisse being buried and then revived 519 00:28:36,542 --> 00:28:40,875 as an undead zombie made headlines around the world. 520 00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:44,167 Numerous experts investigated the case in hopes 521 00:28:44,333 --> 00:28:48,125 of shedding light on what exactly took place. 522 00:28:48,292 --> 00:28:52,167 The first question on everyone's mind was whether 523 00:28:52,375 --> 00:28:56,167 Clairvius had only appeared to be dead because he was drugged 524 00:28:56,375 --> 00:29:00,167 or if there was some truth to the idea 525 00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:02,625 that he actually died 526 00:29:02,792 --> 00:29:06,333 and was then revived by the power of voodoo. 527 00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:11,792 What made the case of Narcisse unique was one single thing. 528 00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:14,042 He had been pronounced dead 529 00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:18,167 in an American-directed philanthropic institution, 530 00:29:18,375 --> 00:29:19,875 the Schweitzer Hospital. 531 00:29:20,042 --> 00:29:23,875 And his family members had witnessed the death 532 00:29:24,042 --> 00:29:27,333 and authenticated it at the time. 533 00:29:27,542 --> 00:29:30,250 So, all these lines of evidence 534 00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:34,625 led scientists to go public in the 1980s 535 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,792 saying they felt they had found the first 536 00:29:36,958 --> 00:29:40,375 medically verifiable instance of zombification. 537 00:29:42,167 --> 00:29:46,375 DONNELLY: The doctors who had initially declared Narcisse dead 538 00:29:46,542 --> 00:29:50,125 were no longer at the hospital 20 years later when he returned. 539 00:29:50,292 --> 00:29:53,833 However, many doctors looked into, um, his case, 540 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:56,792 and did tests and proved that it was, in fact, him. 541 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,250 Why the premature diagnosis 542 00:30:00,375 --> 00:30:03,167 and why he was buried prematurely is unknown, 543 00:30:03,292 --> 00:30:07,333 and where he was for 20 years is unknown, 544 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,750 but there are photos of him sitting on his own gravestone. 545 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,208 SHATNER: There are many theories as to what caused Clairvius Narcisse 546 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:21,167 to be declared dead and then seemingly brought back to life. 547 00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,875 Ultimately, what happened to him remains a mystery, 548 00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:26,667 but many Haitians are convinced 549 00:30:26,792 --> 00:30:29,292 that Clairvius did, in fact, 550 00:30:29,458 --> 00:30:32,458 rise from the grave. 551 00:30:33,708 --> 00:30:37,083 And for some, his story is a reminder 552 00:30:37,208 --> 00:30:39,667 that the distinction between the living and the dead 553 00:30:39,792 --> 00:30:43,292 may not be as clear-cut as we commonly think. 554 00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:47,125 DONNELLY: When we imagine zombies in the 21st century, 555 00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:49,792 we tend to imagine the dead rising 556 00:30:49,917 --> 00:30:52,125 from the grave to prey upon the living. 557 00:30:52,292 --> 00:30:56,458 That is not the case in Haitian voodoo practices. 558 00:30:56,667 --> 00:30:58,292 Zombification in voodoo 559 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,750 was not something that was done to the dead. 560 00:31:00,917 --> 00:31:02,667 It was something that was done to the living. 561 00:31:02,875 --> 00:31:05,208 It was turning the living into 562 00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:08,875 a fugue-like state, a deathlike state, 563 00:31:09,042 --> 00:31:12,292 um, but they were not reanimated corpses. 564 00:31:12,458 --> 00:31:16,167 DAVIS: Narcisse never doubted that he'd become a zombie. 565 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:19,417 In Haiti, a zombie is a complete pariah, 566 00:31:19,542 --> 00:31:22,750 who walks the edge between life and death and will do so 567 00:31:22,958 --> 00:31:24,958 for the rest of their existence. 568 00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:30,000 And so, this idea that a person could be 569 00:31:30,208 --> 00:31:34,000 brought back to life fills all of us with mystery 570 00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:36,542 and trepidation and dread. 571 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,333 SHATNER: The prospect that any of us could become a reanimated 572 00:31:40,542 --> 00:31:44,125 husk of our former selves is a haunting image. 573 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:47,792 But just how one joins the ranks 574 00:31:47,958 --> 00:31:49,542 of the walking dead is debatable. 575 00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:53,083 Is it a biological response? 576 00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:55,625 A psychological phenomenon? 577 00:31:56,208 --> 00:31:59,792 Or could there really be something to the power 578 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,542 of a deadly curse? 579 00:32:09,542 --> 00:32:13,375 SHATNER: Just outside the city, on a normal suburban street 580 00:32:13,542 --> 00:32:15,167 in an ordinary neighborhood 581 00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:19,167 is the home of Greg and Dana Newkirk. 582 00:32:19,333 --> 00:32:22,250 From the outside, their home is not much different 583 00:32:22,458 --> 00:32:23,875 from any other house on the block. 584 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,833 -Get some fork action going on. -Yeah. 585 00:32:26,917 --> 00:32:32,417 SHATNER: But inside, it contains something quite extraordinary. 586 00:32:32,583 --> 00:32:36,167 Because there is a room in the basement that is filled 587 00:32:36,333 --> 00:32:38,667 with a collection of strange objects, 588 00:32:38,833 --> 00:32:42,000 sent by people from all over the world, 589 00:32:42,167 --> 00:32:45,708 that are believed to be cursed. 590 00:32:46,708 --> 00:32:51,000 Greg and I lead normal lives, and we go about our life 591 00:32:51,125 --> 00:32:52,958 the same way that everyone else does. 592 00:32:53,083 --> 00:32:58,042 We just happen to be caretakers for very strange objects. 593 00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,333 The way that we got started collecting cursed objects 594 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:01,667 was complete accident. 595 00:33:02,708 --> 00:33:05,500 It wasn't something that we had set out to do. 596 00:33:05,667 --> 00:33:08,833 Never would have imagined myself doing this. 597 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,708 We were just interested in-in general weirdness. 598 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:17,333 My wife and I investigate all manner of high strangeness, 599 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:22,875 and we were both very interested in the idea of cursed objects. 600 00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:25,542 We slowly gained a reputation as being 601 00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:27,583 particularly good people for this. 602 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:31,042 And so, anytime anyone had a problem with an artifact, 603 00:33:31,208 --> 00:33:32,750 they would come to us and say, 604 00:33:32,958 --> 00:33:34,125 "I don't know what to do with this. 605 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,417 "This thing is affecting my life. 606 00:33:36,583 --> 00:33:38,000 "Will you just take it off my hands? 607 00:33:38,167 --> 00:33:39,417 "It'd be easier to just give it to you 608 00:33:39,583 --> 00:33:40,583 and let you deal with it." 609 00:33:40,792 --> 00:33:42,333 So, we built up this collection 610 00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:44,208 of very bizarre things. 611 00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:48,833 SHATNER: Visitors to the Newkirk's home are given ample warning 612 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,667 that the basement is filled with objects that are cursed. 613 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:57,167 We have a lot of haunted robes. 614 00:33:57,375 --> 00:34:00,750 SHATNER: But curiously, every day, the Newkirks receive requests 615 00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:05,292 from people who are eager to view their cursed collection. 616 00:34:05,458 --> 00:34:07,083 JASON W. OCKER: You'd think with cursed objects, 617 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:10,958 you want to avoid them, but there is a draw to them. 618 00:34:11,125 --> 00:34:13,083 When an object is said to be cursed, 619 00:34:13,250 --> 00:34:15,083 another word you could use is "special." It's special. 620 00:34:15,208 --> 00:34:17,000 If this chair is cursed, 621 00:34:17,167 --> 00:34:19,458 it's different from every other chair in the world. 622 00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:21,667 And that makes it unique. That makes it interesting. 623 00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:23,833 And that draws our attention every single time. 624 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,792 And the fact that that specialness 625 00:34:25,917 --> 00:34:27,500 is that it hurts people-- 626 00:34:27,667 --> 00:34:29,167 that appeals to a certain macabre streak 627 00:34:29,292 --> 00:34:31,167 that we all have as human beings. 628 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:37,208 DANA: People think of cursed objects as being kind of fun and spooky. 629 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:40,333 But working with them, it feels a lot less 630 00:34:40,542 --> 00:34:43,417 about that and a lot more about that kind of heavy 631 00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:46,500 responsibility to keep some of these objects with us 632 00:34:46,708 --> 00:34:50,333 under lock and key and maybe out of the wrong hands. 633 00:34:50,417 --> 00:34:52,667 And maybe in a place that's safer, not only 634 00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:54,583 for everyone else, but for them. 635 00:34:56,292 --> 00:34:58,542 SHATNER: The Newkirk's collection includes several objects 636 00:34:58,750 --> 00:35:02,000 that are considered to have the power to inflict harm 637 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,458 on anyone who comes near them. 638 00:35:05,458 --> 00:35:08,792 This is the cursed deer skull. 639 00:35:08,917 --> 00:35:10,542 We drove down to Nashville to pick up 640 00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:14,500 from a woman who saw this in an antique store and 641 00:35:14,667 --> 00:35:17,958 took it back to her office and almost immediately, 642 00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:20,333 her employees started getting sick. 643 00:35:20,542 --> 00:35:22,208 One of her employees was hit by a car. 644 00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:26,167 And then the wall that this was hanging on 645 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,708 actually fell down and took half of the building with it. 646 00:35:30,417 --> 00:35:33,458 DANA: There are certain objects specifically in our museum that, 647 00:35:33,625 --> 00:35:35,792 without people knowing why they feel 648 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,875 the way that they feel, 649 00:35:38,042 --> 00:35:41,667 they will definitely have heart palpitations, anxiety. 650 00:35:41,833 --> 00:35:45,917 We've had people almost faint. We've had people throw up. 651 00:35:46,042 --> 00:35:48,167 We've had people dry heave. 652 00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:50,375 People have very visceral, physical reactions 653 00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:52,750 to being around some of the objects. 654 00:35:55,792 --> 00:35:58,625 SHATNER: Among the cursed objects in the Newkirks' collection 655 00:35:58,792 --> 00:36:03,833 is a deadly ring that is claimed to kill anyone who wears it, 656 00:36:04,042 --> 00:36:07,583 a Bible used during a failed exorcism, 657 00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:13,000 and a doll that is believed to spread illness wherever it goes. 658 00:36:14,042 --> 00:36:17,292 But of all the cursed objects the Newkirks have come across, 659 00:36:17,417 --> 00:36:20,458 there is one that is so harrowing 660 00:36:20,625 --> 00:36:22,583 they refused to keep it in their collection. 661 00:36:22,792 --> 00:36:28,542 It is an unsettling wooden effigy known as the Crone. 662 00:36:28,708 --> 00:36:31,500 DANA: The Crone really is the definition of 663 00:36:31,708 --> 00:36:33,500 kind of a cursed object. 664 00:36:33,667 --> 00:36:36,167 It is a carved statue of a woman. 665 00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:38,833 Someone at some point in time 666 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,208 took this object and attached the noose and the nails. 667 00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:46,625 It was given to us by some hikers who found it 668 00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:50,375 in the Catskills off the beaten path in a cave. 669 00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:54,292 They took it home and initially started 670 00:36:54,417 --> 00:36:56,333 to experience really frightening things. 671 00:36:56,417 --> 00:36:58,333 Their animals were behaving strangely, 672 00:36:58,542 --> 00:37:01,125 they were finding wet footprints on the ground, 673 00:37:01,292 --> 00:37:03,500 and they didn't know what to do. 674 00:37:03,708 --> 00:37:05,917 Someone who we had worked with previously 675 00:37:06,083 --> 00:37:07,417 put them in contact with us, 676 00:37:07,583 --> 00:37:10,333 and after, you know, having some communication 677 00:37:10,542 --> 00:37:12,708 with them, they-they sent the Crone to us. 678 00:37:13,875 --> 00:37:16,792 GREG: People who would get near the Crone, 679 00:37:16,875 --> 00:37:19,750 they would be just overwhelmed with anxiety. 680 00:37:21,042 --> 00:37:23,917 This guy came all the way from Canada 681 00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:26,292 to come and see the Crone. 682 00:37:26,458 --> 00:37:28,750 He begged us to take it out of the box. 683 00:37:30,083 --> 00:37:32,292 Almost immediately, 684 00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:34,208 his eyes roll up in the back of his head, 685 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:36,500 and he starts to bleed from his mouth, 686 00:37:37,167 --> 00:37:38,667 and he has a violent seizure 687 00:37:38,833 --> 00:37:41,667 and he has to be taken out by the paramedics. 688 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:43,417 And that's when Dana and I looked at each other, 689 00:37:43,583 --> 00:37:45,250 and we said, "We have to do something about this." 690 00:37:50,167 --> 00:37:51,542 SHATNER: The Catskill Mountains. 691 00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:54,542 October 2018. 692 00:37:54,708 --> 00:37:57,667 After a string of frightening incidents, 693 00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:00,333 Greg and Dana Newkirk are convinced 694 00:38:00,542 --> 00:38:02,500 that a strange object in their possession, 695 00:38:02,667 --> 00:38:06,958 known as the Crone, is cursed. 696 00:38:08,708 --> 00:38:10,708 So they've traveled to this remote region 697 00:38:10,875 --> 00:38:15,667 of Upstate New York to free themselves of the evil object. 698 00:38:17,583 --> 00:38:19,500 The Crone is one of the objects that 699 00:38:19,667 --> 00:38:21,708 does fall into that very small category of objects 700 00:38:21,917 --> 00:38:24,417 that we didn't feel like we could handle. 701 00:38:25,625 --> 00:38:27,583 It got to a point where the Crone was just 702 00:38:27,792 --> 00:38:30,292 too dangerous for even us to take care of. 703 00:38:30,458 --> 00:38:33,042 And what we wanted to do was 704 00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:37,958 bring her back to the Catskills, which is where she's from. 705 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,500 SHATNER: To remove the Crone's curse, the Newkirks' plan 706 00:38:43,708 --> 00:38:46,625 was to return to the area where it was originally found 707 00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:49,500 by two hikers many years before. 708 00:38:49,667 --> 00:38:53,125 At which point, they would remove the nails 709 00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:56,708 embedded in the Crone in a cleansing ritual. 710 00:38:57,708 --> 00:38:59,333 DANA: We wanted to bring her back, 711 00:38:59,458 --> 00:39:02,333 and every time a nail was pulled out, 712 00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:04,833 the intention was that we were pulling 713 00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:06,458 that curse out of the object. 714 00:39:08,292 --> 00:39:12,167 We hiked into the woods for miles, 715 00:39:12,292 --> 00:39:15,500 and I set up a circle. 716 00:39:15,708 --> 00:39:18,958 The idea of setting up a circle was basically just to create 717 00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:22,000 an energetic space for containing this ritual. 718 00:39:23,208 --> 00:39:24,958 And the whole time we were doing this, 719 00:39:25,125 --> 00:39:26,708 we were hearing footsteps... 720 00:39:28,542 --> 00:39:31,458 ...and strange sounds that weren't animals 721 00:39:31,625 --> 00:39:34,292 around our circle, 722 00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:36,750 but we couldn't see anything. 723 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:40,125 GREG: We were absolutely terrified, 724 00:39:40,292 --> 00:39:42,333 but we start performing the ritual. 725 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,167 I pull the nails out. 726 00:39:44,333 --> 00:39:46,375 As soon as that happens, 727 00:39:46,542 --> 00:39:50,792 we feel this almost electric pop in the air. 728 00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:54,500 When we were done, every coyote 729 00:39:54,708 --> 00:39:56,375 on the mountain just started howling. 730 00:39:57,417 --> 00:39:59,167 And the ritual was finished, 731 00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:02,792 and what we were looking at was just a block of wood. 732 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,083 And we just kind of knew that we had done 733 00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:07,083 what we went there to do. 734 00:40:08,917 --> 00:40:12,167 Scholars of religion have long known the power of ritual, 735 00:40:12,375 --> 00:40:13,917 that when a group of people get together 736 00:40:14,042 --> 00:40:16,000 and engage in the same set of actions, 737 00:40:16,208 --> 00:40:19,292 believing that there's a supernatural origin behind them, 738 00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:20,917 that brings people together. 739 00:40:21,125 --> 00:40:25,167 And so, special movements that you need to go through, 740 00:40:25,375 --> 00:40:29,292 special sayings or songs that you need to do, 741 00:40:29,417 --> 00:40:32,333 it's incredibly powerful phenomena 742 00:40:32,542 --> 00:40:34,792 that can help rid us of the devil 743 00:40:34,917 --> 00:40:38,042 or whatever other force has cursed us. 744 00:40:39,042 --> 00:40:42,125 SHATNER: Is it possible that ritually cleansing 745 00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:44,792 the Crone removed its curse? 746 00:40:44,958 --> 00:40:47,167 Perhaps. 747 00:40:47,375 --> 00:40:49,625 But of course, it all depends on whether 748 00:40:49,792 --> 00:40:53,625 you believe curses are real in the first place. 749 00:40:53,792 --> 00:40:56,167 Whether you believe in cursed objects 750 00:40:56,375 --> 00:40:57,667 or don't believe in cursed objects, 751 00:40:57,792 --> 00:40:59,833 they can still have a power over you. 752 00:41:01,417 --> 00:41:02,917 What that power is, 753 00:41:03,125 --> 00:41:06,417 to what extent that is, how it's kind of comes out, 754 00:41:06,583 --> 00:41:08,708 who knows. 755 00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:11,292 But they're still powerful objects, 756 00:41:11,417 --> 00:41:12,458 no matter how you look at it. 757 00:41:13,833 --> 00:41:15,875 GREG: For people who don't believe in curses, 758 00:41:16,042 --> 00:41:19,500 what I would say is keep believing they're not real. 759 00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:23,000 That's the best defense you have against a curse, 760 00:41:23,125 --> 00:41:25,000 is to not feed it. 761 00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:29,167 So, what do you think? 762 00:41:29,375 --> 00:41:33,542 Is there good reason we should take heed of our primal fears 763 00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:37,208 and follow intuition when our heart starts to race 764 00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:40,083 and we tremble and thoughts turn to dread 765 00:41:40,292 --> 00:41:41,958 and impending danger? 766 00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:44,750 There are good reasons for our body and mind 767 00:41:44,917 --> 00:41:48,000 to protect us from obvious risks, 768 00:41:48,167 --> 00:41:51,750 but exactly why we've become frightened of dark entities, 769 00:41:51,958 --> 00:41:56,167 unseen evil, and unholy objects 770 00:41:56,333 --> 00:42:00,667 may be better left unexplained. 771 00:42:00,833 --> 00:42:02,500 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 63089

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