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WILLIAM SHATNER:
A fatal plague
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that ravaged
the Byzantine Empire.
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A bizarre affliction
of biblical proportions.
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And a disturbing disorder
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where people
dance themselves to death.
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Plague,
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smallpox,
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tuberculosis and influenza.
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These are only a few
of the contagious diseases
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that have killed
billions of people
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over the course
of human history.
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Just saying their names
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conjures misery and pain,
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and the impact
of these deadly infections
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has changed the world
more than a few times.
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How do lethal maladies begin
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and then start
to silently spread?
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What happens
when a medical epidemic
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turns into mental hysteria?
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And while antibiotics
and vaccines can help
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keep diseases like smallpox
and plague under control,
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just how close
are we to catching
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the next unstoppable outbreak?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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♪ ♪
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News reports surface that a new,
highly contagious disease
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first discovered in Wuhan, China
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is spreading like wildfire.
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In a matter of weeks,
the lethal virus known as
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"coronavirus," or "COVID-19,"
sweeps the globe.
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On March 11,
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as the number
of infections and deaths
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continue to climb,
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the World Health
Organization declares
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that the outbreak has
become a worldwide pandemic.
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RAJ DASGUPTA:
What separates, clinically,
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coronavirus from
other common viruses
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such as influenza is that
it knows how to hide itself.
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It has what we call a period
where you could be asymptomatic.
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That means "without symptoms."
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That's a chance to pass
that virus to other people,
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keeping the disease
going on and spreading.
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Most of the time, when
you wait for these symptoms,
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you've already missed it.
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SHATNER:
According to experts,
the origins of many viruses
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remain shrouded in mystery.
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DASGUPTA:
It's so difficult
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to determine the origin
of viruses because
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when you want
to study that virus,
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you have to separate
what is the natural history
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of that cell?
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So, one of the important things
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that epidemiologists
are looking at right now
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is what did we learn
from the past?
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What should we be looking at?
Where should we be looking?
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GRAHAM PHILLIPS:
Some of the
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earliest records
of plagues are found
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in ancient India, China,
the Middle East,
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and they talk
about plagues occurring
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before the very first
civilization, around 3200 BC.
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SHATNER:
Throughout human history,
there have been accounts
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of devastating afflictions
that defied understanding
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at the time they happened.
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But perhaps a closer
examination of these plagues
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will provide some lessons
about infectious diseases
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and how they begin.
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Emperor Justinian
sits atop a powerful throne,
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but lurking in the shadows
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is a hidden enemy
about to consume his kingdom.
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A plague, started by a bacteria,
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comes out of the East
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and infects.
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This simple bacteria
ended up killing
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almost one half the population
of the entire Old Empire.
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With that type of death toll,
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the economic and social
ramifications were catastrophic.
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Everything that Justinian
had tried was now collapsing.
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His military collapsed,
his economy collapsed,
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and everything that he tried
to do was of no avail.
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(people coughing)
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KIRSTEN FISHER:
Justinian plague is caused
by a bacterium, Yersinia pestis.
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It can either
enter humans directly
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through-- from saliva,
or-or coughing.
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It usually manifests itself
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in terms of swelling
of lymph nodes.
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The skin turns black
and basically dies.
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And then there's
a progression of fever
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and chills and eventual death.
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ARIEL BAR TZADOK:
As Justinian's Empire
was collapsing and breaking,
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and his military strength
was waning,
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because the science
of medicine in those days
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was far more primitive
than we have today,
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people cry out,
"Why... why is this happening?"
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SHATNER:
The Plague of Justinian,
as it became known,
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ultimately killed
an estimated 50 million people.
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The vast
Byzantine Empire was crippled,
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not by an invading army
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but by an enemy
they could not see
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and did not understand.
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At the time, since the existence
of bacteria and viruses
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had not yet been discovered,
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many believed
that the invisible force
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that caused the plague
was God himself.
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It was a belief
that was widely accepted
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because people
would read in the Bible
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about how pestilence
from the past
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had been created
by the hand of God.
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Whenever humanity is infected
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by something greater and
beyond human understanding,
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it has always been
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psychologically understood
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to be an expression
of the wrath of God.
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We have, in the book of Exodus,
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the famous ten plagues of Egypt.
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Moses had come back
after seeing God on the mountain
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to free the Hebrews
from slavery.
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He went before the pharaoh
and asked to let his people go.
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Of course, the pharaoh said no.
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Therefore,
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the Hebrew God sent
a number of plagues
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through Egypt.
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BAR TZADOK:
The Bible stories are clear.
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The order of the plagues are
well documented in the Bible.
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We know, of course,
that there was the turning
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of the Nile into blood.
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There were the frogs,
the lice, the pestilence
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and, of course,
the great plagues of
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the Three Days of Darkness,
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and of course,
the death of the firstborn.
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JULYE BIDMEAD:
The biblical writer
who is writing what happens
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and is inspired by God
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does say that the plague stopped
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after the Hebrews
were finally free.
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So, perhaps there was some
divine intervention from God.
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But we'll never know
because miracles
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are very difficult to prove.
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SHATNER:
Can ancient plagues
be attributed to
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a higher power at work?
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Well, it's a fascinating theory.
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And perhaps divine intervention
could be the source
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of a strange affliction
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where a person
mysteriously bleeds
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as if they've been crucified.
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SHATNER:
Every spring,
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billions of Christians
all over the world
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gather to observe
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a solemn day of reverence
called Good Friday.
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According
to Christian tradition,
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Good Friday commemorates
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the crucifixion
and death of Jesus Christ.
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This sacred practice
has been performed
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for nearly 2,000 years,
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and involves attending mass,
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the veneration of the cross
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and elaborate processions.
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While Good Friday
is a somber occasion,
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the Crucifixion
is a pivotal event
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that is at the heart
of Christianity.
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STEPHEN ROSSETTI:
When you look at
the spirituality
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of the Christian faith,
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the Crucifixion of Jesus is not
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only a tragedy of death,
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it's a sign
of the sufferings of Jesus.
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When we think of
the Crucifixion today,
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we think of Jesus' wounds
when he was crucified,
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which includes
the holes in the hands,
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in the feet,
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in the side.
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We think of the crown of thorns.
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SHATNER:
The Crucifixion is clearly
a profound cornerstone
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of the Christian faith.
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But curiously, for centuries,
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people have suffered from
a rare and disturbing condition
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that is connected to
the death of Jesus Christ.
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This bizarre affliction is known
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as "stigmata."
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McGOWAN:
Stigmata occurs
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when an individual
is marked in a physical way
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that represents the wounds
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that Christ suffered
on the cross.
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Most commonly, stigmata
happens in what is referred to
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as the five wounds of Christ,
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which is two in the hands,
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two in the feet
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and one on the side.
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HOROWITZ:
Since the Middle Ages,
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there have been untold
thousands of cases.
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In the strictest
terms, stigmata,
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although they do involve
physical suffering,
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are considered
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a blessing, a privilege.
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It's almost as if
the stricken individual
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is bearing a holy
or divine burden.
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SHATNER:
How can wounds that mirror
those of Jesus Christ
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inexplicably appear
on ordinary people?
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It seems to defy all logic.
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But perhaps clues about
this phenomenon can be found
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by examining the first
documented instance of stigmata.
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McGOWAN:
The first recorded
case of stigmata
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occurred with St. Francis
of Assisi in 1224.
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St. Francis went to
the mountains of La Verna
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to meditate and to pray.
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And then suddenly, Francis
had a vision of a seraphim.
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A seraphim is
a particular kind of angel,
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a fiery angel with six wings.
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And the seraphim held
in his possession the crucifix.
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His wings were wrapped around
Jesus on the cross.
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And from this crucifix,
this image of Jesus,
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came forth these rays,
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and these rays
penetrated Francis
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in the form of stigmata.
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Francis' stigmata
was incredibly intense.
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Nothing like this
had ever happened before.
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And not only did he have wounds
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that were openly
bleeding on his hands,
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Francis was quite ill after
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he received the stigmata,
and he died two years later.
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Every day of those two years,
he did, in fact,
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suffer with stigmata.
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SHATNER:
Accounts of stigmata
are both fascinating
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and deeply unsettling.
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For many Christians,
they are proof
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of divine forces
at work in our world,
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but many experts are skeptical
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and insist
that stigmata must have
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a scientific explanation.
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ROSIE FALODUN: In terms
of stigmata-like symptoms,
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there are
some medical conditions
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that have been attributed
to spontaneous bleeding,
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but it's still
very much misunderstood.
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One of them would be
hematohidrosis.
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It's known as bloody sweat
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because when the body is
under extreme stress,
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the sweat glands tend
to become more fragile
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and can bleed spontaneously.
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It typically manifests
as droplets
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of blood on the skin,
most commonly in the forehead,
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the arms and the legs, without
any apparent physical cause.
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But it can't be said
that they are
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the exact cause of stigmata.
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HOROWITZ:
When a proposed stigmata occurs,
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the Vatican typically will do
everything possible
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to account for the healing
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within standard
medical protocol.
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The Vatican disputes,
ignores or disproves
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vastly greater numbers
of miraculous claims
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than it actually validates,
and so,
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if the Vatican is able
to verify stigmata,
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they are considered miraculous.
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SHATNER:
Is it possible
that a genuine case of stigmata
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is an actual miracle,
as the Vatican claims?
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Many believe that the best
evidence lies in the story
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of the most famous case
in modern history--
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the stigmata of Padre Pio.
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LYNN PICKNETT:
Padre Pio was
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a Capuchin friar
who in 1918 celebrated mass
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and immediately afterwards
started bleeding
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from the hands and feet,
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but there were
certain peculiarities about it.
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It never scabbed over.
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And it gave off
a very sweet perfume,
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which is known
as the odor of sanctity.
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McGOWAN:
When Padre Pio was suffering
from his stigmata,
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he said that the pain
was so extreme
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that he thought he might die.
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He was embarrassed by the blood
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and embarrassed to be showing
these marks on a regular basis.
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And he was always trying
to cover them
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with the sleeves of his robe
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so that people
wouldn't see the blood.
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ROSSETTI:
The Vatican's response
to great mystics in the church
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has often been to persecute
them, at least initially.
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They did that with Padre Pio.
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They were skeptical.
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At one point they thought
they were self-inflicted
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and so they, uh, silenced him.
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They basically shut him away
in a monastery.
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But thousands of people
would go to attend his mass
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and line up
for confession for days.
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ANDREW COLLINS:
It was not until long
after Padre Pio's death
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in 1968
that the Vatican had relented
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and saw him
as a genuine stigmatist.
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He was finally canonized and
beatified by Pope John Paul II.
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This was at the beginning
of the 21st century.
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Now thousands of pilgrims come
from all over Italy and beyond
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to venerate
at his tomb every month,
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and so his memory is
something that is celebrated
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by Catholics
in every part of the world.
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SHATNER:
For the moment
stigmata remains a controversial
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and captivating affliction
that offers no easy answers.
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But in 16th-century France
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another condition emerged
that was no less baffling.
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It was a disturbing phenomenon
which led hundreds of people
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-to dance themselves to death.
-(laughter)
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(woman screams)
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SHATNER:
This historic city,
built along the Rhine River,
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is known for its stunning
network of canals,
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remarkable
medieval architecture,
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and the famous astronomical
clock of Strasbourg Cathedral.
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But over 500 years ago, in July
of 1518, this town was the site
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of one of the strangest maladies
in human history.
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It's known
as the dancing plague,
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and it started when a townswoman
named Frau Troffea
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spontaneously burst into dance.
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WALLER:
Frau Troffea is said
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to have stepped
outside of her house
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in the city of Strasbourg...
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...and then began to dance,
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and she danced for hours
and hours and hours,
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and apparently, at first,
eyewitnesses thought
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that she may have been trying
to irritate her husband
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or that this was
some kind of joke,
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but then the dance stretched
into the evening
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and then into the night.
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She collapsed.
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She got up the next day
and began again.
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And at that point
people realized
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that a very strange phenomenon
was unfolding here.
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PICKNETT:
Frau Troffea went on
hopping around and dancing
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in the heat of the summer,
but she wasn't enjoying it.
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She was unfocused,
glassy-eyed, dissociated,
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and just jerking around
and dancing,
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and she actually couldn't stop.
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SHATNER:
Frau Troffea reportedly danced
for a week straight.
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The constant exertion took
a toll on her health,
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and she was sent to a remote
monastery to recuperate.
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But strangely,
after Frau left Strasbourg,
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the dancing didn't stop.
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WALLER:
Within about two or three weeks,
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dozens more people
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had been consumed by this
same urge to dance and dance
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for hours and days in an altered
state of consciousness.
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By the end of August,
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perhaps 400 people
were all dancing,
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in some cases
on and off for weeks.
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Their toenails fell off,
their feet were lacerated,
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their shoes were full of blood.
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And then some of them
dropped dead.
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It was estimated
15 a day dropped dead,
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maybe 400 in all over the course
of the two months.
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It was a terrifying
and terrible thing.
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What's so remarkable
about these events of 1518
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is that we have copies
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of the memos sent
among the members
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of the governing circle
of the city.
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There are intense debates
within the city
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as to what is causing
this outbreak of dancing,
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and they make quite clear,
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these people do not want
to be dancing.
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They are absolutely involuntary.
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SHATNER:
What could have
possibly triggered
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such a bizarre
and deadly affliction?
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At the time the people
of Strasbourg began to suspect
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that the dancing plague
was the work
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of the devil.
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COLLINS:
This was something that was seen
as a form of possession,
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so they started to look
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at possible
supernatural explanations,
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and the first thing
that they thought of was
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this possibly being instigated
by the devil himself.
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And so they tried to purge
every kind of sin from the city.
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It didn't work.
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SHATNER:
When banning sin failed,
the townspeople wondered
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if the dancing plague was
not the work of the devil
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but rather a Catholic saint
by the name of Vitus.
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WALLER:
St. Vitus is an important saint
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in the late
medieval European Church.
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There was a very strong belief
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that there were
a number of saints
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who could both cure you
of a particular disease
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and, if you were a sinner,
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then they would punish you
by inflicting that disease.
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St. Vitus was believed
to cause movement disorders,
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including compulsive dancing,
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so it made complete sense
to people at the time
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that if anybody
was dancing wildly,
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it's because they'd somehow
offended St. Vitus.
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So what they then do is that
they bundle people into wagons
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and take them to a shrine
dedicated to St. Vitus
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located about 30 miles north
of Strasbourg.
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Interestingly,
they put red shoes on them.
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They cover the red shoes
in holy oil and holy water
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and they lead them
round the shrine in a circle,
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and then we are told
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most of the people recovered
their sanity,
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so it seems that they cured it
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by appealing
to the supernatural beliefs
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of the people
who had been afflicted.
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SHATNER:
Was the dancing plague
both caused and cured
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by a higher power?
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While it made sense to people
in medieval Europe...
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...in modern times
experts have proposed
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a more scientific theory.
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They claim that this ghoulish
dancing frenzy was
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the result
of mass psychogenic illness,
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or as it's more commonly known,
mass hysteria.
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FALODUN:
Mass hysteria is
when a group of people
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are experiencing
the same physical symptoms
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without a definitive physical
cause of those symptoms.
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For example,
if you're in a social setting
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whereby someone
is experiencing a symptom,
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you can then believe that
that's also happening to you.
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WALLER:
Today the most popular theory
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for the 1518 dancing plague
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is that this is an example
of mass hysteria,
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but it's not always the case
that unusual behavior
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is mass psychogenic illness.
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We're talking about
several hundred people dancing
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for days or weeks,
some of them dying.
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Could mass hysteria
really be what started
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the spread
of the dancing plague?
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Or was it the work of the devil?
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Whether it was psychological
or spiritual in nature,
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the dancing plague is certainly
a lesson in human behavior.
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As is the case
of a 3,000-year-old virus
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that spread around the world
and became
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one of the deadliest diseases
on Earth.
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SHATNER:
Spanish conquistadors
led by Hernán Cortés arrive
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at Tenochtitlán,
the capital of the Aztec Empire,
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bearing dreams of conquest
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and an insatiable desire
for gold,
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but they also brought with them
a lethal, infectious disease.
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TOK THOMPSON:
Smallpox is introduced into
the Americas very dramatically
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at a specific point in time and
alongside the European invasion.
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So this is a tremendous
sort of clash of civilizations,
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the likes of which the world
had never seen before
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and will never see again.
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The single most deciding factor
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as to why Native American
civilizations fell so rapidly
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was the introduction
of smallpox.
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FISHER:
So, smallpox is a virus.
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It causes these sort of
irregularly spaced,
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pustuly skin lesions
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and had a devastating effect
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on-on Native Americans,
um, in the New World.
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GRONVALL:
In Europe most people
had experienced smallpox.
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They had the scars
or they had it as children,
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but there was no immunity
in the New World.
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There was no immunity
among kids,
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there was
no immunity among adults,
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and so, when this new disease
came, everybody was vulnerable,
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and so it spread like wildfire.
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SHATNER:
Although the exact numbers
will never be known,
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many experts estimate
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that a staggering 95%
of the Indigenous population
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would eventually die
from smallpox,
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but what's even more chilling
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is the fact that smallpox ran
rampant for thousands of years.
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GRONVALL:
I am astounded
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by how far back smallpox goes.
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For most
of human recorded history,
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we believe it's the same strain
that was infecting
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one person after another,
this human chain of infection.
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The Egyptian pharaoh Ramses V
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had scarring on his face
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that's consistent with smallpox.
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SHATNER:
It is estimated
that smallpox has killed
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between 300
and 500 million people
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in its more-than-10,000-year
existence.
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Which begs the question:
how did we finally beat it?
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Well, it just so happens
that the cure for smallpox
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was discovered in a small
English village in the 1790s.
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GRONVALL:
In the late 1700s
doctors were noticing
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that milkmaids did not seem
to be affected by smallpox
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and their complexions
remained unscarred.
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And people were starting
to make that connection
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that there might be immunity
from catching
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a different kind
of poxvirus-- cowpox--
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so milkmaids were exposed
to the cowpox virus,
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probably got infected,
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and were then immune
to smallpox.
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Edward Jenner was
an English physician
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and decided to test
this observation
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and took a piece of an ulcer
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from a cow
that was infected by cowpox
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and gave it
to an eight-year-old boy
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and then, a little bit later,
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gave this little boy
a dose of smallpox.
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Fortunately, the eight-year-old
boy did not develop smallpox
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and was actually protected.
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Because it wasn't like a direct
viral intake, right, you would,
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you would get a slightly, um,
lesser version of the disease,
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but because
you had been exposed to it,
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you would, of course,
then have immunity,
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so it was probably
the first instance
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of a crude version
of vaccination.
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SHATNER:
As it turns out, Edward Jenner's
revolutionary experiment
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is remembered today
for its inspiration,
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its sheer audacity,
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and because it provided
a new defense
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against infectious disease
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which we now refer to
as "the vaccine."
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GRONVALL:
The word "vaccine"
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comes from the virus name
vaccinia,
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which was the virus that was
the cowpox-derived virus
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that left people immune
to smallpox.
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Vaccines prevent disease,
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and some vaccines
can last for decades
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and some vaccines need
to be given every year.
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For smallpox, people had to get
vaccinated every ten years.
501
00:27:50,333 --> 00:27:55,667
SHATNER:
Vaccines are humanity's single
greatest weapon against plagues.
502
00:27:55,875 --> 00:27:58,667
Rooted in science
and not superstition,
503
00:27:58,875 --> 00:28:02,375
they provide a powerful way
to fight outbreaks.
504
00:28:02,542 --> 00:28:03,875
GRONVALL: The last
naturally occurring case
505
00:28:04,042 --> 00:28:07,250
of smallpox
was identified in 1979,
506
00:28:07,417 --> 00:28:10,833
and in 1980 the World Health
Organization declared
507
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,833
that smallpox was eradicated,
508
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,417
so no longer spreading
from person to person.
509
00:28:16,542 --> 00:28:20,833
Eradicating smallpox was the
biggest public health victory
510
00:28:21,042 --> 00:28:23,917
in the history
of the human race.
511
00:28:24,917 --> 00:28:26,750
SHATNER:
The eradication of smallpox
512
00:28:26,875 --> 00:28:30,667
is the most famous use
of a highly effective vaccine,
513
00:28:30,875 --> 00:28:36,333
but there are some diseases
that are harder to cure.
514
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,625
MICHIO KAKU:
There are viruses
515
00:28:37,792 --> 00:28:39,500
for which we have
no vaccines at all
516
00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:41,708
because they mutate too rapidly.
517
00:28:42,792 --> 00:28:45,167
And so, because viruses mutate,
518
00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:49,250
there's a certain limitation to
what you can do with vaccines.
519
00:28:50,875 --> 00:28:52,875
DASGUPTA:
The minute you get too confident
520
00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:55,667
and you think
that we defeated Mother Nature,
521
00:28:55,833 --> 00:28:58,875
somehow it always finds
a way to come back.
522
00:28:59,917 --> 00:29:01,458
SHATNER:
It appears that
even with our technological
523
00:29:01,625 --> 00:29:02,625
and medical advancements,
524
00:29:02,792 --> 00:29:05,458
the ability to isolate, contain,
525
00:29:05,625 --> 00:29:08,000
and even eradicate
certain diseases
526
00:29:08,208 --> 00:29:10,500
will remain an ongoing endeavor.
527
00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:14,917
And in some cases
discovering the source
528
00:29:15,125 --> 00:29:17,208
of the affliction
can be shocking,
529
00:29:17,375 --> 00:29:21,167
like in the case
of a deadly disorder
530
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:26,042
caused by a gruesome
tribal ritual.
531
00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:36,250
SHATNER:
This group of tropical islands
532
00:29:36,458 --> 00:29:38,792
located
in the Southwest Pacific Ocean
533
00:29:38,958 --> 00:29:42,167
is one of the most remote places
on Earth.
534
00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:45,625
During the 1970s
it was discovered
535
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:48,833
that a local tribe
known as the Fore
536
00:29:48,958 --> 00:29:53,458
was afflicted by a strange
and deadly illness.
537
00:29:56,583 --> 00:30:00,333
SCHUTT:
The Fore people lived up
in the mountains of this island.
538
00:30:00,458 --> 00:30:03,292
There were probably about 36,000
of them that were spread out
539
00:30:03,458 --> 00:30:07,375
across the mountain valleys
in Northern New Guinea.
540
00:30:07,542 --> 00:30:11,125
They lived
in 170 different hamlets
541
00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:14,833
with people who spoke
six different languages.
542
00:30:14,958 --> 00:30:20,042
When the Westerners started
to interact with the Fore,
543
00:30:20,208 --> 00:30:22,583
missionaries
and anthropologists found
544
00:30:22,750 --> 00:30:26,083
an alarming number of them
were dying of a strange disease
545
00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:28,958
that nobody
had really seen before.
546
00:30:29,917 --> 00:30:32,250
One of the symptoms
of this disease
547
00:30:32,375 --> 00:30:35,500
is something that is known
as pathological laughter.
548
00:30:35,583 --> 00:30:37,375
(laughing)
549
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,917
You know, inappropriate
laughter, giggling.
550
00:30:41,125 --> 00:30:46,833
Major magazines and newspapers
called it laughing death.
551
00:30:47,875 --> 00:30:51,292
SHATNER:
At the time experts estimated
that the laughing death
552
00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:54,542
killed 200 Fore people
every year.
553
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:57,000
The Fore called
the illness kuru,
554
00:30:57,167 --> 00:31:01,125
which translates to "trembling"
in their dialect.
555
00:31:01,292 --> 00:31:05,083
The disease was puzzling
to scientists,
556
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,042
who could not determine
its cause,
557
00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:12,792
and in 1981 Dr. Robert Klitzman
traveled to Papua New Guinea
558
00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:15,667
to try and solve the mystery.
559
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:16,750
When I went there
for the first time,
560
00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:18,458
I wasn't sure what to expect,
561
00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:19,958
but I learned many things.
562
00:31:20,167 --> 00:31:22,958
Initially it was called
the laughing death,
563
00:31:23,083 --> 00:31:25,042
which is sort of a misnomer.
564
00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:27,917
People did engage
in what seemed like laughter,
565
00:31:28,083 --> 00:31:31,500
but it really was sort of
uncontrollable expressions
566
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:33,833
and movements that they had.
567
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,750
Kuru causes
a number of symptoms.
568
00:31:35,917 --> 00:31:38,125
It is a neurological disease
569
00:31:38,292 --> 00:31:41,250
somewhat similar to Parkinson's
disease or Alzheimer's.
570
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:46,875
The symptoms are loss of
muscle control over one's body,
571
00:31:47,042 --> 00:31:49,167
shaking, inability to walk,
572
00:31:49,375 --> 00:31:53,167
and it has
mental symptoms as well,
573
00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:55,792
so people may not be able
to control
574
00:31:55,958 --> 00:31:57,833
their emotions or what they say.
575
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,167
The disease was terrifying
in many ways.
576
00:32:01,292 --> 00:32:03,333
The symptoms usually, from start
577
00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:06,417
to the person's death,
take about a year.
578
00:32:06,542 --> 00:32:09,208
It's invariably fatal.
579
00:32:09,333 --> 00:32:11,125
The Fore people believed
that the disease
580
00:32:11,208 --> 00:32:13,167
was caused by sorcery.
581
00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:16,792
So they believed
that a sorcerer would take
582
00:32:16,917 --> 00:32:18,500
something that belonged to you
583
00:32:18,708 --> 00:32:22,083
and wrap it around a stone and
bury it and cast a spell on it,
584
00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:24,792
and that may sound ridiculous
to some of us,
585
00:32:24,958 --> 00:32:28,000
but they'd say,
"That's just magic."
586
00:32:28,125 --> 00:32:30,625
The world in which they lived
was this kind of a world.
587
00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:34,333
SHATNER:
Was kuru the result
of supernatural forces,
588
00:32:34,542 --> 00:32:35,833
as locals believed?
589
00:32:35,958 --> 00:32:38,042
It's an intriguing notion,
590
00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:42,333
but doctors eventually suspected
that the real culprit
591
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:45,958
was that the Fore participated
in the gruesome practice
592
00:32:46,125 --> 00:32:49,625
of consuming human flesh.
593
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:54,958
HOROWITZ:
When Western anthropologists
594
00:32:55,083 --> 00:32:56,958
began to study
some of the communities
595
00:32:57,083 --> 00:33:00,208
of Papua New Guinea
in the 1930s,
596
00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:04,958
they discovered
practice of a ritualistic,
597
00:33:05,042 --> 00:33:08,958
religious-based
funerary cannibalism.
598
00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:13,833
The Papua New Guineans
who engaged in cannibalism
599
00:33:14,042 --> 00:33:16,292
saw the consumption of the brain
600
00:33:16,417 --> 00:33:21,042
as a way of imbibing
that person's life force.
601
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:23,167
It was a devotional practice.
602
00:33:23,292 --> 00:33:25,833
KLITZMAN:
When they practiced cannibalism,
603
00:33:26,042 --> 00:33:27,875
at one feast, I calculated
604
00:33:28,083 --> 00:33:30,667
that there were
56 people present,
605
00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:32,833
53 of whom then died
of the disease.
606
00:33:33,042 --> 00:33:35,083
So it was pretty devastating.
607
00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:40,583
Now, every time someone died,
they would consume the brain.
608
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:42,750
I met people, for instance,
who would say,
609
00:33:42,917 --> 00:33:45,250
"Well, I ate a foot,"
or "I ate a hand,"
610
00:33:45,417 --> 00:33:46,875
and they were still alive.
611
00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:51,167
And so,
the concentration of the kuru
612
00:33:51,375 --> 00:33:55,083
was highest when
they would consume the brain.
613
00:33:55,292 --> 00:33:56,750
SHATNER:
Perhaps it's not surprising
614
00:33:56,917 --> 00:33:59,833
that eating human brains
is not good for your health.
615
00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:01,500
But how did this practice
616
00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:06,000
lead to the bizarre
laughing symptoms of kuru?
617
00:34:06,208 --> 00:34:08,417
Kuru is caused
by something called a prion,
618
00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:12,042
an infectious protein
that is in all of our brains.
619
00:34:12,208 --> 00:34:16,083
And in roughly one out
of every million people or so,
620
00:34:16,208 --> 00:34:18,125
it flips the wrong way.
621
00:34:18,292 --> 00:34:20,333
And when it's flipped,
622
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:24,000
it could lead to other proteins
623
00:34:24,083 --> 00:34:26,750
flipping in our brain
and forming clumps
624
00:34:26,917 --> 00:34:29,792
that could kill brain cells.
625
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,333
Kuru probably happened
because someone
626
00:34:33,542 --> 00:34:37,667
in the Fore group had such
a protein flip the wrong way,
627
00:34:37,875 --> 00:34:41,667
and that person was then
consumed by other people,
628
00:34:41,875 --> 00:34:46,125
and that led to proteins
in their brains flipping.
629
00:34:46,292 --> 00:34:48,667
And when they died,
they were eaten,
630
00:34:48,792 --> 00:34:52,417
and the rest is history,
it continued to spread.
631
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,167
SHATNER:
The story of kuru
is as fascinating
632
00:34:55,375 --> 00:34:57,333
as it is disturbing.
633
00:34:57,542 --> 00:35:01,333
But what's even more unsettling
is that this type of disease
634
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,667
has harmed people
not just in Papua New Guinea
635
00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:06,583
but all over the world.
636
00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:11,583
Except, we call it
"mad cow disease."
637
00:35:11,708 --> 00:35:13,333
SCHUTT:
In the 1980s,
638
00:35:13,542 --> 00:35:16,000
British cattle became stricken
with mad cow disease
639
00:35:16,167 --> 00:35:19,542
because farmers
feed them supplements,
640
00:35:19,708 --> 00:35:23,958
and these supplements
are made up of dead cows
641
00:35:24,167 --> 00:35:26,167
infected with prion disease.
642
00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:29,000
And then people
would consume that.
643
00:35:29,208 --> 00:35:33,208
Eventually,
over the course of 15, 16 years,
644
00:35:33,375 --> 00:35:37,167
178 people in the U.K. died
645
00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:39,833
from what became known
as mad cow disease.
646
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,417
FALODUN:
Mad cow disease
647
00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:44,000
or neurodegenerative diseases
such as kuru
648
00:35:44,208 --> 00:35:47,958
can manifest upwards
of 70 years after the ingestion
649
00:35:48,125 --> 00:35:51,042
of some contaminated, um,
food or livestock.
650
00:35:51,208 --> 00:35:53,500
And so, it's very unclear
651
00:35:53,708 --> 00:35:56,708
as to whether or not
it can happen in the future.
652
00:35:56,833 --> 00:36:00,167
The study of kuru
is important for many reasons.
653
00:36:00,375 --> 00:36:03,000
One is, of course,
the fact that the symptoms
654
00:36:03,208 --> 00:36:04,750
in humans from eating
an infected cow
655
00:36:04,917 --> 00:36:09,167
are basically the same symptoms
that we saw with kuru.
656
00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:12,250
So, they provided
this unique glimpse
657
00:36:12,417 --> 00:36:15,333
on what can cause
a disease that's different
658
00:36:15,458 --> 00:36:18,292
than what anyone
had thought before.
659
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,333
SHATNER:
Could our understanding
of the laughing death disorder
660
00:36:22,542 --> 00:36:25,417
help us to better identify
and avoid
661
00:36:25,583 --> 00:36:28,000
stange outbreaks
in the modern world?
662
00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:31,000
Perhaps, and now more than ever,
663
00:36:31,125 --> 00:36:32,917
people are going
to great lengths
664
00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:37,208
to dodge diseases
and even death itself.
665
00:36:37,375 --> 00:36:42,708
Their secret is to remain
frozen for centuries.
666
00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:53,292
SHATNER:
In a sprawling industrial park
667
00:36:53,458 --> 00:36:55,958
on the north side of the city
stands the headquarters
668
00:36:56,167 --> 00:36:58,625
of the Alcor Life Extension
Foundation.
669
00:36:58,792 --> 00:37:01,625
Like most cutting-edge
medical facilities,
670
00:37:01,833 --> 00:37:05,042
the doctors and scientists here
work day and night
671
00:37:05,208 --> 00:37:07,000
to provide care
for their patients.
672
00:37:07,208 --> 00:37:09,500
Except, in the case of Alcor,
673
00:37:09,667 --> 00:37:10,875
the patients...
674
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,458
...are all deceased.
675
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:17,208
In our view, people who are
declared legally dead today
676
00:37:17,375 --> 00:37:18,958
are potentially revivable.
677
00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:21,750
Alcor's mission
is to take a patient
678
00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:25,667
who cannot be helped by
today's medicine into the future
679
00:37:25,792 --> 00:37:27,083
where, hopefully,
more advanced technology
680
00:37:27,292 --> 00:37:28,792
can repair and revive them.
681
00:37:30,542 --> 00:37:33,208
We're here in Alcor's
patient care bay.
682
00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:35,958
In this room, we have all 184
of our human patients
683
00:37:36,167 --> 00:37:37,750
in these dewars,
these cryogenic dewars,
684
00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:41,583
essentially very large,
expensive vacuum flasks.
685
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:43,083
So, in each one
of these containers,
686
00:37:43,208 --> 00:37:44,375
there are four
whole-body patients.
687
00:37:44,542 --> 00:37:46,333
On this side, you can see
688
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,000
that I can put my hand on here
without any problem,
689
00:37:48,208 --> 00:37:51,750
but just a few inches further in
is minus 320 Fahrenheit.
690
00:37:51,917 --> 00:37:53,167
It's extremely cold.
691
00:37:53,375 --> 00:37:55,500
People say that we freeze
people colloquially,
692
00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:57,958
but that's not strictly accurate
if we do it right.
693
00:37:58,958 --> 00:38:02,458
Our patients are essentially in
something like a long-term coma,
694
00:38:02,625 --> 00:38:04,875
except there is no
metabolic activity whatsoever.
695
00:38:05,875 --> 00:38:08,333
SHATNER:
To date, 184 deceased patients
696
00:38:08,542 --> 00:38:11,750
lie in deep freeze
within Alcor's facility,
697
00:38:11,917 --> 00:38:14,833
in the hope that, one day,
they'll be resurrected.
698
00:38:15,833 --> 00:38:17,833
This bizarre form
of potential immortality
699
00:38:18,042 --> 00:38:21,500
is known as cryonics.
700
00:38:21,708 --> 00:38:25,458
Cryonics is the process
of freezing the human body,
701
00:38:25,625 --> 00:38:27,625
perhaps just the human head,
702
00:38:27,833 --> 00:38:31,500
in order to stop
the biological process of decay.
703
00:38:32,542 --> 00:38:35,417
So, the hope is, if you could
freeze somebody alive,
704
00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:37,500
even with an incurable disease,
705
00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:40,917
perhaps you can thaw them out
at some point in the future
706
00:38:41,042 --> 00:38:45,167
when science has found
the cure for that disease.
707
00:38:45,333 --> 00:38:48,500
In that sense,
perhaps you can defeat cancer,
708
00:38:48,667 --> 00:38:51,292
defeat all the ravages
of old age.
709
00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:53,625
Perhaps even become immortal.
710
00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:56,750
MORE:
Professor Robert Ettinger,
a physicist,
711
00:38:56,875 --> 00:38:58,542
started the cryonics movement
in the 1960s,
712
00:38:58,708 --> 00:39:00,458
where he proposed
to store people
713
00:39:00,625 --> 00:39:02,458
at ultracold temperatures,
714
00:39:02,542 --> 00:39:04,500
where there's the potential
that future technology
715
00:39:04,708 --> 00:39:06,875
could repair and revive them.
716
00:39:08,375 --> 00:39:10,500
Right now, there are
many companies that do this.
717
00:39:10,667 --> 00:39:13,917
There are hundreds
of frozen individuals right now
718
00:39:14,083 --> 00:39:15,625
across the United States.
719
00:39:16,625 --> 00:39:18,333
SHATNER:
Worldwide, it is estimated
720
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,000
that at least 500 people
have been placed
721
00:39:21,125 --> 00:39:23,250
in cryonic suspension,
722
00:39:23,417 --> 00:39:26,833
most notably, baseball
Hall of Famer Ted Williams.
723
00:39:26,917 --> 00:39:29,500
There are even those who claim
that Walt Disney's body
724
00:39:29,708 --> 00:39:33,000
is preserved
in a cryonics facility.
725
00:39:33,167 --> 00:39:34,750
But is there any reason
to believe
726
00:39:34,917 --> 00:39:39,667
that this strange process
could actually work?
727
00:39:40,667 --> 00:39:43,458
If you live in the countryside,
you know that, come wintertime,
728
00:39:43,625 --> 00:39:45,125
the lakes freeze over.
729
00:39:46,375 --> 00:39:49,125
But if you ever look
right on top of the lakes,
730
00:39:49,292 --> 00:39:51,167
you'll see frozen organisms.
731
00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:54,167
Fish and frogs.
732
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:56,667
And then, come springtime,
733
00:39:56,792 --> 00:39:59,458
some of them
spring back to life again,
734
00:39:59,667 --> 00:40:02,500
when you thought
they were frozen solid.
735
00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,125
What's the trick?
736
00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,000
The trick is that Mother Nature
737
00:40:06,208 --> 00:40:08,292
has created an antifreeze
738
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,042
to lower the freezing point
for these animals
739
00:40:11,208 --> 00:40:13,125
such that,
even though it appears
740
00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:15,583
as if they're frozen solid,
741
00:40:15,708 --> 00:40:19,125
the bodily fluids inside
these animals still flows,
742
00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:21,833
and these animals
are still alive,
743
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,875
even though their metabolism
rate is very close to zero.
744
00:40:26,875 --> 00:40:29,333
So, in some sense,
we're trying to copy nature.
745
00:40:29,458 --> 00:40:32,167
And it turns out
that some forms of tissue can,
746
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:34,542
in fact,
be frozen almost indefinitely.
747
00:40:35,542 --> 00:40:37,750
SHATNER:
If cryonics is able to deliver
748
00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:40,542
on its promise of immortality
as many hope,
749
00:40:40,708 --> 00:40:43,708
could it eventually mean
that death itself
750
00:40:43,875 --> 00:40:45,958
will one day come to an end?
751
00:40:46,125 --> 00:40:48,500
MORE:
Cryonics really is about
giving people choice
752
00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:50,083
over how long they live.
753
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:51,708
We think that, in the future,
754
00:40:51,875 --> 00:40:53,583
we should be able to revive
cryonics patients
755
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:56,667
and rejuvenate them and let them
go about their lives again.
756
00:40:56,833 --> 00:40:58,833
What we want, really,
is indefinite lifespan.
757
00:40:59,875 --> 00:41:02,125
KAKU:
If, in the future,
someone can show
758
00:41:02,292 --> 00:41:05,833
that you could be revived
after being frozen solid,
759
00:41:06,042 --> 00:41:09,458
then the whole question
of immortality is on the table.
760
00:41:09,583 --> 00:41:11,250
We're not there yet,
761
00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:14,917
but there's no law of science
that says you can't do it.
762
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,833
Perhaps the future
for treating a deadly virus
763
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,167
will be to simply
put a patient on ice
764
00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:23,000
until a cure can be found.
765
00:41:23,125 --> 00:41:26,667
In the meantime, it's reassuring
to know that modern medicine,
766
00:41:26,833 --> 00:41:30,833
along with an understanding of
how outbreaks begin and spread,
767
00:41:30,917 --> 00:41:34,542
has made great strides
in controlling the escalation
768
00:41:34,708 --> 00:41:36,833
of contagious diseases.
769
00:41:37,042 --> 00:41:40,625
But will killers like smallpox
still be around
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00:41:40,792 --> 00:41:43,000
for another 3,000 years?
771
00:41:43,208 --> 00:41:45,333
Or can a new plague emerge
772
00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:48,333
that's impervious
to antibiotics?
773
00:41:48,458 --> 00:41:52,000
While we can attempt to protect
ourselves from deadly pandemics,
774
00:41:52,167 --> 00:41:58,000
just when the next
unstoppable outbreak will occur
775
00:41:58,167 --> 00:41:59,333
remains...
776
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:01,458
unexplained.
777
00:42:01,625 --> 00:42:03,667
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