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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,310 --> 00:00:03,850 Hi, kittens. How's it hanging? 2 00:00:04,510 --> 00:00:09,810 I'm in that, like, crazy quiet time before the show tapes, and I'm reading 3 00:00:09,810 --> 00:00:15,090 dumb news on my phone, and I... I don't know. I just thought I'd shoot a video 4 00:00:15,090 --> 00:00:19,230 and, I don't know, maybe knock out, like, an epic takedown or something. 5 00:00:19,790 --> 00:00:23,870 So the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing started. 6 00:00:24,170 --> 00:00:25,830 It's a fucking mess already. 7 00:00:26,610 --> 00:00:31,690 But, of course... We're already distracted because Bob Woodward's got a 8 00:00:31,690 --> 00:00:33,790 coming out. No Bernstein this time. 9 00:00:34,530 --> 00:00:38,010 I think it's okay. I think he was kind of like the Garfunkel of the duo anyway. 10 00:00:38,970 --> 00:00:43,390 But the book is about Trump, and it's called Fear. 11 00:00:43,970 --> 00:00:48,510 But apparently it's not related to the movie where, like, Mark Wahlberg fingers 12 00:00:48,510 --> 00:00:50,710 Reese Witherspoon on a roller coaster. It's different. 13 00:00:51,370 --> 00:00:54,730 Anyway, can't wait to read it. Looks juicy as fuck. 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,940 I guess Trump called Jeff Sessions like a dumb southerner or something, and he 15 00:00:59,940 --> 00:01:04,900 told Rudy Giuliani he's a little baby that needs his diaper changed, and he 16 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:07,340 that Mike Pence pees out of his butthole. 17 00:01:07,660 --> 00:01:11,040 I made that last one up, but you'd believe it, wouldn't you? Because this 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,280 thing's a fucking shit show. 19 00:01:12,660 --> 00:01:17,580 But make no mistake, the Trump administration is thrilled about this 20 00:01:17,580 --> 00:01:21,140 right now because they're going to get to confirm Kavanaugh, and that will 21 00:01:21,140 --> 00:01:27,440 give... Every anti -choice Republican, a giant boner. This is a position for 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,320 life, y 'all. They want to push it through. And if it goes through, it's 23 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:37,280 to affect every vulnerable person in America negatively until the day he 24 00:01:37,620 --> 00:01:40,780 Until the devil comes to collect his soul. 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,860 And they're like concealing hundreds of thousands of pages of documents on 26 00:01:47,860 --> 00:01:49,140 Kavanaugh. That's like... 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,160 That's like almost an entire Cheesecake Factory menu. 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,260 And why are they doing this? Hmm. 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,100 Occam's razor comes to mind. If it smells like shit and it tastes like 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,460 it's probably a Toblerone. Kidding. It's shit. 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,600 This isn't sponsored by Toblerone. 32 00:02:08,259 --> 00:02:13,140 Look, I'm just saying, this is, it's fucking unprecedented. 33 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:17,680 And if the shoe were on the other foot, there is no way Republicans would let 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,260 this fly. And you know it. 35 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:24,730 But, I mean, come on. Do we really want this to be our Supreme Court nomination 36 00:02:24,730 --> 00:02:30,730 process? Because if so, we're looking at a future like where the president could 37 00:02:30,730 --> 00:02:35,910 just withhold his taxes from the public or declare the free press the enemy of 38 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:36,910 the people. 39 00:02:36,950 --> 00:02:39,330 And that would be like the end of democracy. 40 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:45,510 Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to go see a man about a finger on a roller 41 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:46,510 coaster. Peace. 42 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,140 Shave it off, stay alive, open wide. 43 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,300 Show it how it comes. 44 00:03:28,790 --> 00:03:34,890 All right. So this show is about trying to be open -minded, you know? And I want 45 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:39,470 different perspectives. Like, on our writing staff, we've got, like, one 46 00:03:39,470 --> 00:03:44,090 who's a progressive Democrat, and we've got another writer who's a progressive 47 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:45,450 Democratic socialist. 48 00:03:45,970 --> 00:03:48,050 It really runs the gamut. 49 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:53,590 No, but I really, I've been sitting down and talking with people across the 50 00:03:53,590 --> 00:03:59,020 aisle a lot lately, and what's become clear to me is that... Like, we aren't 51 00:03:59,020 --> 00:04:04,540 even working off the same basic truths, you know? We know this country is 52 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:09,920 divided as fuck. That's not new news. But we've entered this, like, new normal 53 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,180 where people in power just, they lie. 54 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,220 Which made me realize the problem with politics in America isn't the division 55 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:21,120 itself. It's the people doing the dividing. 56 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,880 And that's who I have a problem with. The liars. I can... 57 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,980 Absolutely adore people I fundamentally disagree with, but I got no room in my 58 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:32,160 ticker for liars. 59 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:35,460 I have no room in any of my organs for liars. 60 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:41,640 Not in my lungs, not in my aorta. Oh, that's hard. 61 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Not in my butt. 62 00:04:46,380 --> 00:04:47,460 That's not an organ. 63 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,280 Whatever, you know what I mean. And when I say liars, I mean corrupt. 64 00:04:54,799 --> 00:04:59,100 politicians, and the billionaires who pay them to distribute well -crafted 65 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:01,280 in order to maintain their wealth and power. 66 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:10,360 You're not clapping for them, right? Because that would be like crazy crap. 67 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:12,400 What do I mean by lies? 68 00:05:13,940 --> 00:05:15,760 Liberals want to take all your guns. 69 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,940 Or Mexican immigrants are rapists. 70 00:05:19,370 --> 00:05:24,090 These are the kind of lies that are designed to get people scared and angry, 71 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:29,110 which makes them controllable. Because scared and angry is a liar's most 72 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:30,270 valuable consumer. 73 00:05:30,650 --> 00:05:35,410 So like, while you're distracted screaming at someone for speaking 74 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:39,150 IHOP, they can pass laws to take away your health insurance. 75 00:05:40,290 --> 00:05:45,150 Look. Tonight's the first game of the NFL season, right? And there's already 76 00:05:45,150 --> 00:05:50,290 anger over Nike's deal with Colin Kaepernick, a man who risked everything 77 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:51,290 expose injustice. 78 00:05:51,450 --> 00:05:53,550 How totally un -American. 79 00:05:54,450 --> 00:05:59,810 And politicians will once again roll out their stock takes on why players are 80 00:05:59,810 --> 00:06:01,310 kneeling during the national anthem. 81 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:02,750 It's misguided to protest. 82 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,340 The anthem and the flag. 83 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:09,520 They indict our country, our service members, our first responders, our 84 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:15,820 fathers. NFL protesters protesting the national anthem. When you go down and 85 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:20,940 take a knee or any other way, you're sitting, essentially, for our great 86 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:25,540 national anthem. You're disrespecting our flag and you're disrespecting our 87 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:27,520 country. Okay, those are lies. 88 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,860 All of those people know the players are not protesting a song. 89 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,620 And they're pretending to think that players are protesting our national 90 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:41,300 our military, our flag, when they know, they know. 91 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:43,980 that they are protesting police brutality. 92 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,100 The players have all been very transparent about that because it's what 93 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:53,280 literally trying to bring attention to. And I hate that I just ended that 94 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,580 sentence with a preposition. I can fix that. Sorry, I'm usually a stickler. 95 00:06:56,940 --> 00:07:00,440 Because it's literally what they're trying to bring attention to, you 96 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,920 disingenuous fucking spin doctors. And yes, I mean the band. 97 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,860 You know who suggested to Colin Kaepernick that he start kneeling in the 98 00:07:14,860 --> 00:07:16,020 place? A veteran. 99 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,760 And the liars know that. 100 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,320 They are knowingly perpetuating this shameless lie because it fits their 101 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,080 narrative. The liars fall in line with our America -loving president who, 102 00:07:29,140 --> 00:07:33,780 funnily enough, could give two fucks about respecting the flag or veterans, 103 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:37,300 specifically the most veteran -y veteran in the world. 104 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,800 Do you have any thoughts on John McCain? 105 00:07:40,650 --> 00:07:42,350 Do you have any thoughts at all about John McCain? 106 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:47,950 President Trump ignored questions about McCain today. And for most of the day, 107 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:52,730 the White House flag was back at full staff, even as the flags at the U .S. 108 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:55,850 Capitol, per tradition, remained at half staff. 109 00:07:56,470 --> 00:08:03,030 Right. So NFL players use the flag to draw attention to an epidemic of police 110 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:04,270 brutality and violence. 111 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:09,390 And our president uses the flag to draw attention to someone who was mean to him 112 00:08:09,390 --> 00:08:10,390 once. 113 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:17,890 So yeah, I don't give a flying fuck about the liars. Who I do care about are 114 00:08:17,890 --> 00:08:18,890 lied to. 115 00:08:18,990 --> 00:08:23,350 The well -intentioned citizens who believe the liars and the lies that they 116 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:26,870 tell. And who can blame them? The liars are excellent at lying. 117 00:08:27,630 --> 00:08:28,970 This is what kills me. 118 00:08:29,590 --> 00:08:34,750 They frame what behooves only them as what's best for America. 119 00:08:35,030 --> 00:08:37,730 And the lied to believe it. 120 00:08:38,059 --> 00:08:44,740 And they pass it on. It's like the liars are our farmers. And the lies are their 121 00:08:44,740 --> 00:08:50,620 seeds. And then the lied to are the wind. And they unknowingly spread the 122 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:56,040 around. And I am trying to dig up those seeds, which makes me a hoe. 123 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:03,940 Look, 124 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,560 all I'm saying is... 125 00:09:11,820 --> 00:09:17,160 All I'm saying is if you only get your news from Fox News or the president's 126 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,200 tweets, it's fine. Keep doing that. 127 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:25,080 I only ask that you read a couple other points of view as well. You are eating 128 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,560 all carbs. You need some vegetables. 129 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:33,180 Yes, you might not like the taste at first, but it's good for you and it will 130 00:09:33,180 --> 00:09:34,300 make your shits healthier. 131 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:39,100 Watch out for the liars. 132 00:09:39,550 --> 00:09:44,690 You know, we got to be wary of the people who tell us not to trust our eyes 133 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:50,090 not to trust our ears. Be wary of the people who want us to have less 134 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:55,030 information. Stick with us. Don't believe the crap you see from these 135 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:56,110 the fake news. 136 00:09:56,310 --> 00:10:02,810 Just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's 137 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:03,810 happening. 138 00:10:08,970 --> 00:10:11,810 I had a boyfriend who burned bridges right and left. 139 00:10:12,110 --> 00:10:17,650 And I'll change his name for the story, but he would be like, everyone's out to 140 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:20,850 get me. And I'd be like, you're right, 2 Chainz. Damn it. 141 00:10:21,950 --> 00:10:23,310 I mean, Steve. 142 00:10:24,890 --> 00:10:28,850 But I always took his side because I loved him. 143 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:34,260 And I believed him. But I believed him because I only ever heard his 144 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:38,080 perspective. I was only hearing his side. He was my Fox News. 145 00:10:38,780 --> 00:10:44,480 I fiercely protected him. And I took on any fight he had because when you love 146 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,420 someone, not only do you want to see the best in them, you need to see the best 147 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:49,999 in them. 148 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,720 It's survival. 149 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:56,270 And that's what Trump is right now. He is your shitty boyfriend. 150 00:10:57,290 --> 00:11:02,750 You know, he starts off great, he picks you up in a limo with flowers, and he's 151 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:05,690 like, baby, I'll take care of you. And you're like, wow, whoa. 152 00:11:06,430 --> 00:11:11,490 And then slowly you get the feeling that maybe this was all for show, that maybe 153 00:11:11,490 --> 00:11:13,150 he's not that great. 154 00:11:13,550 --> 00:11:17,910 You know, like he buys Magnum condoms for his regular -sized dick. 155 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:24,800 You know, makes you a handwritten love coupon for your birthday and it's to 156 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,800 him. 157 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:31,700 And then you discover he's been sleeping with Vladimir Putin and the NRA and 158 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:32,960 tons of porn stars. 159 00:11:33,220 --> 00:11:37,320 And it's embarrassing because everyone knows it and he keeps doing it right in 160 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,460 front of your fucking face. 161 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:42,700 And even if you wanted to break up with him, you can't because you're scared 162 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:46,320 because he's shown you over and over again with other people that he is 163 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,320 vindictive. 164 00:11:48,330 --> 00:11:53,630 So all I can say to those of you who are still with Trump, girl, you gotta leave 165 00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:54,630 his ass. 166 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:56,690 You deserve 167 00:11:56,690 --> 00:12:03,490 better than this. 168 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:07,870 You deserve a president who's gonna treat you right. A president who's 169 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:10,030 you know, make sure you come too. 170 00:12:11,170 --> 00:12:14,470 Trump has never made a woman come in his life. What makes you think he can, 171 00:12:14,530 --> 00:12:15,790 like, fix North Korea? 172 00:12:26,030 --> 00:12:29,150 liars, let's talk about truthers, not truthers. That's not what I meant. 173 00:12:29,370 --> 00:12:31,330 I mean people who tell the truth. 174 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:36,530 Coming up on the show, I interview NFL players Doug Baldwin and Malcolm 175 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:41,590 and I had an amazing chat with them about how their peaceful protest gets 176 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:43,950 purposely misinterpreted by assholes. 177 00:12:44,170 --> 00:12:47,750 And boy, the smear campaign is in full force. Look at this. 178 00:12:48,950 --> 00:12:53,450 Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins thinks he's so great. 179 00:12:54,090 --> 00:12:56,230 Well, let's look at the facts. 180 00:12:56,730 --> 00:13:02,270 Jenkins was drafted with the 14th pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, which means 13 181 00:13:02,270 --> 00:13:08,370 players were way better than him. Jenkins, a two -time Pro Bowler, has 182 00:13:08,370 --> 00:13:12,790 seven career touchdowns, which doesn't add up because he plays defense. 183 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,420 In 2010, Jenkins and his mother Gwendolyn launched the Malcolm Jenkins 184 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:20,220 Foundation, which is committed to youth development initiatives. 185 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:24,340 But if he's really so charitable, why is he only helping youth? 186 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,100 What about super old people? 187 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:31,720 Jenkins has made headlines advocating for his beliefs through silent protests. 188 00:13:32,060 --> 00:13:35,160 Makes you wonder, can he even talk? 189 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,640 He's a co -founder of the NFL Players Coalition and continues to work on 190 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,260 of players fighting racial inequality. 191 00:13:42,090 --> 00:13:46,030 I guess he's too busy protesting to do his job. 192 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:48,350 Oh, he won a Super Bowl? 193 00:13:48,890 --> 00:13:50,830 Two Super Bowls? 194 00:13:51,210 --> 00:13:52,250 Malcolm Jenkins. 195 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:54,610 I wish I was him. 196 00:13:59,850 --> 00:14:03,930 Hi. Welcome back. Now, who wants to talk about abortion? 197 00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:05,950 Me? 198 00:14:06,490 --> 00:14:08,790 Yes. Yes, me. Check it out. 199 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:16,240 So, like, I'm super pro -choice, and I don't often get to interact with people 200 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,240 who are pro -life. 201 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,540 But, you know, it seems to me like you shouldn't shield yourself from other 202 00:14:21,540 --> 00:14:28,020 beliefs just to keep your own beliefs intact. So I'm here at this airport 203 00:14:28,020 --> 00:14:32,420 because I've decided to spend the day with a hardline pro -life group called 204 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:35,980 Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust. 205 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,460 Don't judge, Sarah. Come on. 206 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Look, I'm sure we both have preconceived notions of each other, like my knee 207 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,920 -jerk thought is that they're Bible -thumping crackpots trying to control 208 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,320 women's bodies, and they're probably thinking I'm, you know, like, too 209 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,820 To get to the bottom of it, I spoke to Jeff White. 210 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Hello, Sarah. Hi. Co -founder of The Survivors. They're a youth -focused 211 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,140 that gets their message across using extreme rhetoric and graphic images. 212 00:15:08,460 --> 00:15:12,580 I also spoke to Dr. Willie Parker, who is a crucial women's health care 213 00:15:12,580 --> 00:15:15,700 provider. Or a professional fetus assassin. 214 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,400 It depends on who you're talking to. 215 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,700 What has your experience been like with people who are anti -choice? 216 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Well, I'm glad you said anti -choice because that gives me a specific 217 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,440 that they hold. 218 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,580 I've learned it. That's not pro -life, it's anti -choice, which is always how I 219 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:36,740 saw it, but I never thought to articulate it that way because the 220 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:40,800 call themselves pro -life had defined themselves and I accepted it. 221 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Being affirming of life, for me, I'm pro -life of the mother. 222 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,660 I simply conclude that a fetus can never be more important than the woman 223 00:15:48,660 --> 00:15:49,660 carrying it. 224 00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:55,960 This is so like pressure's on situation. 225 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,740 Should we jump right in? Sure. Tell me everything. 226 00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:03,920 The group that I represent is Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust. 227 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:09,940 We're a pro -life youth organization, and what we do is we train young people 228 00:16:09,940 --> 00:16:11,580 peaceful, nonviolent protest. 229 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:18,740 For people whose core beliefs are different than yours, you are wanting to 230 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:20,960 a law that goes against that. 231 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,200 I believe. 232 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:25,110 that science teaches us that life begins at conception. 233 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:30,890 Judaism doesn't hold this extreme notion of life beginning at conception, and 234 00:16:30,890 --> 00:16:33,330 so... No, Jews believe that life starts at 40. 235 00:16:33,830 --> 00:16:38,250 Well, my friend told me, his mother said, that you're viable as a fetus when 236 00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:39,710 graduate from college and you have a job. 237 00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:42,470 And maybe when you become a doctor. 238 00:16:42,910 --> 00:16:44,670 Life does begin scientifically. 239 00:16:45,779 --> 00:16:49,440 Every embryologist will tell you it begins at the moment of conception. 240 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,680 don't know that every doctor would say that. 241 00:16:51,900 --> 00:16:55,380 As a matter of fact, I talked to a doctor, Dr. Willie Parker. 242 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:58,520 He used an analogy of an oak tree. 243 00:16:58,860 --> 00:17:02,920 A person is not created at conception because you're not a person until you're 244 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:09,099 born. An acorn and an oak tree have the exact same genetic complement, as does a 245 00:17:09,099 --> 00:17:10,099 tadpole and a frog. 246 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:14,760 But an acorn is not an oak tree. A tadpole is not a frog. Yes, it is an oak 247 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,030 tree. That argument is one I actually illustrated to the kids to say how 248 00:17:19,030 --> 00:17:25,869 the pro -choice argument used to be. If I step on an acorn, it is not the 249 00:17:25,869 --> 00:17:29,990 same significance of me chopping down a hundred -year oak tree. You will become 250 00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:33,230 an old person if someone doesn't step on you or run you over. Yeah. That doesn't 251 00:17:33,230 --> 00:17:36,850 make you not a human. But I'm a conscious living human. But now you're 252 00:17:36,850 --> 00:17:42,090 other things to it. But the difference between a fetus and me is consciousness, 253 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:45,420 right? No, I would agree with that, depending on what... Then what is your 254 00:17:45,420 --> 00:17:47,040 happiest memory in utero? 255 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:51,260 I don't have a memory from two years old, but that doesn't make me not a 256 00:17:51,260 --> 00:17:51,959 at two. 257 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Touché. Thank you. 258 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,620 But you know what else is life? 259 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Sperm. No, sperm is alive. 260 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Sperm cannot reproduce itself. 261 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,920 Well, some women can't reproduce. 262 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,400 Ooh, touché. I'll give you a touché on that one. 263 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:10,110 Now that I've talked about abortion with two middle -aged dudes, I decided to 264 00:18:10,110 --> 00:18:12,730 sit down with people whose bodies are actually affected. 265 00:18:13,290 --> 00:18:17,270 Survivors co -founder Cheryl Conrad and some of the group's young members and 266 00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:21,750 allies. I was going to bring flour and sugar and eggs, but that's not a cookie 267 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:22,750 yet. 268 00:18:23,530 --> 00:18:26,470 Tell me what brought you to Survivors LA. 269 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:27,690 For me, it's personal. 270 00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:32,570 I actually have had an abortion myself. We wanted our kids to be able to. 271 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:36,730 experience, you know, being involved in pro -life and to stand for something 272 00:18:36,730 --> 00:18:42,310 that you believe passionately in. The appeal of a camp called Holocaust Camp 273 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:47,550 just so beyond ironic and horrifying to me, but it doesn't make you want to go. 274 00:18:47,730 --> 00:18:50,250 It sounds like a lot of fun. 275 00:18:51,050 --> 00:18:56,770 I'm here because I believe that abortion is wrong. I believe it is killing an 276 00:18:56,770 --> 00:18:59,170 innocent child and I want to help. 277 00:18:59,550 --> 00:19:00,610 People who are my age. 278 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:02,490 And what brought you to it? The pussy? 279 00:19:03,670 --> 00:19:09,070 How did you come up with the name Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust? 280 00:19:09,970 --> 00:19:12,230 And do you have any Jewish friends? 281 00:19:12,550 --> 00:19:15,530 I wanted a name that would be... 282 00:19:15,930 --> 00:19:21,570 So controversial, even from its get -go, that it was a slap in the face and that 283 00:19:21,570 --> 00:19:26,030 someone would challenge me on it. It's a conversation starter. It's like having 284 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:27,350 a parrot on your shoulder. 285 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:30,310 I actually just thought you would have a knee -jerk reaction to it. 286 00:19:30,550 --> 00:19:35,630 My knee -jerk reaction is the syntax is a nightmare. 287 00:19:35,950 --> 00:19:40,710 You want an abortion holocaust. That's the complete end of all abortion. 288 00:19:41,050 --> 00:19:42,790 The syntax is all wrong. 289 00:19:43,090 --> 00:19:44,930 Okay, so what are we doing here? 290 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,160 At this particular session, we are doing sign making. 291 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,299 I know. 292 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:53,380 We didn't talk about it. Here, I made one for you that I think is more fair. 293 00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:59,260 Abortion. We don't think that it's right, but other people feel 294 00:19:59,260 --> 00:20:04,660 that's okay. But we just want to exercise our right to hold our signs 295 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:05,660 thoughts on them. 296 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,800 If what you believe is right. 297 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,680 then you should be able to change people's minds and hearts using only 298 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,220 true. Yeah. It shouldn't just be a big poster -sized bloody fetus because that 299 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:22,260 isn't the size of a fetus. Good point. 300 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:26,440 It's less effective, but at least it uses what is true. 301 00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:29,720 Oh, it's perfect. It's pocket -sized. This is life. 302 00:20:30,140 --> 00:20:36,660 This is life. You're wanting people to vote to make laws that... 303 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,940 rule over a woman's body beyond their own choices. 304 00:20:40,340 --> 00:20:44,340 People get pregnant from rape. People get pregnant because their contraception 305 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:47,600 doesn't work. And your reasoning is spot on, except for this. 306 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,500 We have two unique lives. 307 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:54,460 If you have that, what do you mean? The life of the child and the life of the 308 00:20:54,460 --> 00:20:55,980 mother. The fetus and the mother. 309 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,060 It's only a fetus if you don't want it. As long as it's in the uterus, it's a 310 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,890 fetus. It's not a baby. Baby is a cultural term. It's a sentiment. That's 311 00:21:04,890 --> 00:21:09,670 medical term. And so when people say unborn baby, it's really very 312 00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:11,730 coercive language. 313 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:17,190 We have a disagreement over this right here. And I believe that the law should 314 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:21,150 protect the most innocent, the weakest within our society, which would be the 315 00:21:21,150 --> 00:21:22,630 child. One thing that Dr. 316 00:21:22,910 --> 00:21:28,710 Parker said, that the question isn't when does a fetus become a person, but 317 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:30,890 does a woman stop being a person? 318 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,080 Diane, show me a Diane. 319 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,840 All right, so we like to spread out so that you're not too close to each other. 320 00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:41,340 And then I will say, all right, survivors die. 321 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,340 And you lay down on the ground. 322 00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:45,820 And we will not rest until this violence is through. 323 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,600 Yep. 324 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,760 I'm happy to join you, Elizabeth. 325 00:21:50,980 --> 00:21:52,600 You have to go in the fetal position. 326 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:53,900 Yeah, fetal position. 327 00:21:54,340 --> 00:21:56,460 That's me all my time off. 328 00:21:57,420 --> 00:21:59,820 You say that there are no exceptions. 329 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,860 for abortion, but what if you got pregnant and you found out that your kid 330 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:11,740 going to grow up to be a DJ or one of those guys that wears the shoes with the 331 00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:12,740 separated toes? 332 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:17,620 You might force me to reconsider. Oh, my God. That was the change. That was what 333 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:19,100 it took. Those shoes are ridiculous. 334 00:22:19,540 --> 00:22:25,460 And then people are coming around to chalk and outline our bodies since 335 00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:26,840 is killing an innocent human. 336 00:22:27,370 --> 00:22:32,130 My Diane is for like dwindling health care and Medicaid. 337 00:22:32,530 --> 00:22:37,030 And then we'll drape some red cloth across you and that is representing the 338 00:22:37,030 --> 00:22:38,030 blood that is spilled. 339 00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:41,850 There's like not enough Purell in the world for me to do a Diane. 340 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:48,680 Well, after spending a full day with these pro -lifers, I'm happy to report 341 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,420 we changed each other's minds. 342 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:55,220 So much so that I am totally pro -life now and survivors of the abortion 343 00:22:55,220 --> 00:22:57,320 holocaust are now pro -choice. 344 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Kidding. Obviously, that didn't happen. They think I want to kill babies and I 345 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,280 think they want to take away women's rights while co -opting the holocaust. 346 00:23:07,460 --> 00:23:09,780 What are you going to do, right? You got to try. 347 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:13,620 In the meantime, we have to remember that we're all human. 348 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,700 Except for fetuses, which are not yet, according to science. 349 00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:32,820 Guys, are you ready for some football discussion with players about stuff? I 350 00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:38,040 recently sat down with NFL stars Malcolm Jenkins and Doug Baldwin to talk about 351 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,820 the NFL's policy on player protests and our country's uncanny knack for not 352 00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:43,820 listening. 353 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,920 Oh, my God. I'm so embarrassed. 354 00:23:46,220 --> 00:23:48,700 Oh, I left my Biore strips on. 355 00:23:49,140 --> 00:23:51,800 No blackheads. 356 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Check it out. 357 00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:59,820 Um... Oh, shit, that looks good. 358 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,100 It's really just that dressing, though. 359 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:06,020 Um, the league passed this new policy. 360 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Players have to stand for the national anthem, and if they don't, they have to 361 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,700 stay kind of hidden in the locker room. I mean, does that solve things for you? 362 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,340 No. Yeah, no. 363 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:20,700 I'll let you go on that one. You want to leave this one to me? Yeah, I'll leave 364 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:21,840 that one to you. I'll pay you back. 365 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:27,180 No, it doesn't. And I think that the NFL really missed a critical opportunity to 366 00:24:27,180 --> 00:24:31,780 really build a relationship with its players. I think it's very tone -deaf of 367 00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:35,090 them. What's going to happen is still yet to be seen, but I can tell you that 368 00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:37,670 it's not a great conversation being had right now. 369 00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:43,890 Is your opinion that the NFL owners are influenced by this president? 370 00:24:44,290 --> 00:24:46,570 I think they are going back and forth. 371 00:24:46,850 --> 00:24:50,950 And oftentimes, whenever you play defense, you usually piss off both 372 00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:51,909 like both sides. 373 00:24:51,910 --> 00:24:55,530 You know, from a player's standpoint, in no way, shape, or form does this keep 374 00:24:55,530 --> 00:24:59,690 us quiet. I think, if anything, to put more microphones in our places is to put 375 00:24:59,690 --> 00:25:03,800 this. right back on the pedestal and we'll continue to push forward. 376 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,580 For me personally, it's more about the rhetoric and the language that's being 377 00:25:07,580 --> 00:25:09,360 used, especially coming out of the NFL's office. 378 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,700 In this ruling, we're going to say that our players need to stand and respect 379 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:15,780 the flag, as if what we were doing was disrespecting the flag. 380 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,380 And we had those conversations with Roger Goodell, with the NFL office, and 381 00:25:19,380 --> 00:25:22,320 telling them, like, it has nothing to do with disrespecting our country. The 382 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,680 fact of the matter is that there's things going on in our country. 383 00:25:25,210 --> 00:25:28,870 that we feel are disrespectful to the flag and to what this country stands 384 00:25:28,910 --> 00:25:29,910 what it was founded upon. 385 00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:34,590 And so for you to say that we're disrespecting it, to me it's one of the 386 00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:38,130 unpatriotic things that any organization could have done, especially to the 387 00:25:38,130 --> 00:25:41,050 players who are pushing for changes within this country that are supposed to 388 00:25:41,050 --> 00:25:42,050 benefit this country. 389 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,440 That's what I hate is like this disingenuous misunderstanding of why 390 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,460 kneeling, why they have their fists up, why they're protesting. 391 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,900 How many times do you have to say, you know, it's like you with a press 392 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:55,340 conference, you just held up a sign, you're not listening. 393 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,700 I think it was a response to really media and everybody else who want to 394 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:06,040 about the flag or the anthem is not. And so let's not even have that debate and 395 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,120 let's just talk about the fact. 396 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,300 How do we feel that we lead the world of sending our kids to life without 397 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,580 parole, that we send our juveniles to adult facilities, most of which are 398 00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:19,220 African -American and color, that we have a quarter of the incarcerated 399 00:26:19,220 --> 00:26:22,320 in the world here in the United States? And these things have had a 400 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,740 disproportionate effect on communities of color, not only in 2018 or in recent 401 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:28,780 years, but for centuries. 402 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,720 The analogy that I use is, if you have children, right, do you discipline your 403 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,600 children? I'm barren, but go on. 404 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,100 I don't have children yet either. But my mom, she disciplined me, but she still 405 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:42,520 loved me. She would do anything for me. So it's the same thing. 406 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,400 It's not that we don't love this country. It's not that we're not 407 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,440 thankful for what this country stands for. 408 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:49,360 But that doesn't mean you don't hold it accountable. 409 00:26:49,660 --> 00:26:52,080 That doesn't mean that you don't discipline it when it gets off track. 410 00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:56,880 Yeah, I think it's far more patriotic than anything else, especially treason. 411 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,620 Malcolm, you're part of the Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl winning team. 412 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:06,170 Were some of you turned down a visit to the White House? 413 00:27:06,430 --> 00:27:12,330 First of all, good on you. We got disinvited. I guess the attendance 414 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:16,170 they wanted it to be, and so that's when the White House took away their 415 00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:20,330 invitation. But I think it's a greater reflection of the administration and not 416 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:21,490 us as a team. 417 00:27:21,730 --> 00:27:23,410 In a more simplistic view, it's just childish. 418 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:26,950 Because somebody doesn't agree with you, you disinvite them to your... 419 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,900 You celebrate, and not to mention then you put on a separate celebration. 420 00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:32,740 He threw a party for himself. 421 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,799 Pretty much. 422 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,480 I had a fantasy that you would all go to Chicago and take pictures with the 423 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,720 Obamas. That would have been great. 424 00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:46,360 Do you talk about politics in the locker room at all? Like, is it, how do you 425 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,220 solve conflicts among the team? 426 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,200 For us, in our locker room, we've always had those difficult conversations. And 427 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,280 I think, you know, a lot of times people say, athletes, I think they shut up. 428 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,580 We're civilians, too. We're citizens, too. We're humans, too. Being in sports 429 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:06,020 has really made us probably more prepared than anybody to actually handle 430 00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:10,400 type of things. On a daily basis, we're in a locker room with 90 other men from 431 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,620 all sorts of backgrounds, races, religions, socioeconomical backgrounds, 432 00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:19,100 we're forced to come together for one goal for all of us to win. We're trained 433 00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:23,540 to handle this. So when we step into, you know, just the regular world and 434 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:24,540 looking at these issues. 435 00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:29,440 They seem simple to us. It's like, well, what do we need to do? That's why you 436 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,140 both need to run for office, because you're already, like, in a microcosm 437 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:37,560 government that should be the way our government is. 438 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:39,500 Please. 439 00:28:40,140 --> 00:28:43,080 Maybe. All right, I'll fill your, I'll line your pocket. 440 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:44,920 Oh, wait, that's how we got into this. 441 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,530 So. Malcolm, you have your fist in the air, and then your teammate, Chris Long, 442 00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:52,270 put his arm on you. 443 00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:54,610 Like, how have other teammates responded? 444 00:28:55,710 --> 00:29:00,530 Well, I think that was a great example, not only for my team, but, like, just, 445 00:29:00,590 --> 00:29:02,370 like, as a country. 446 00:29:02,650 --> 00:29:03,810 He didn't want to be the center of attention. 447 00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:05,170 He just wanted the support. 448 00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:09,930 Like, you can not agree with somebody's demonstration, but still agree with 449 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:10,669 their issue. 450 00:29:10,670 --> 00:29:13,950 Or even just be an ally without thinking, like, that's what... 451 00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:16,830 That sounds like, to me, a sweet ally move. 452 00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:20,370 Yeah. He didn't want to take over. He didn't want to, like, be the star of the 453 00:29:20,370 --> 00:29:23,070 movement suddenly. He just wants the support. 454 00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:27,730 Right. And that's something I'm trying to really understand and, like, embody 455 00:29:27,730 --> 00:29:31,550 well while I took over this comment right now. 456 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:33,850 I just realized. 457 00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:40,110 Doug, your father was a police officer for 35 years. How has that informed your 458 00:29:40,110 --> 00:29:41,750 relationship with social justice? 459 00:29:43,050 --> 00:29:47,010 I have some insight, you know, what my father went through, not only just as a 460 00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:51,570 law enforcement officer, but as a black law enforcement officer in the south of 461 00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:55,890 that. When you have that insight, it allows you, in my opinion, to look at 462 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:58,690 things in a different perspective. The prime example that I can give is the 463 00:29:58,690 --> 00:29:59,629 Tamir Rice case. 464 00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:03,310 You know, Tamir Rice, 12 -year -old boy gets shot and killed. Like, you can 465 00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:06,610 understand the gravity of that, and you see the emotion behind the family side. 466 00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:10,150 But then I saw this interview with the cop, and you could see the pain inside 467 00:30:10,150 --> 00:30:11,150 him, too. 468 00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:16,780 becomes Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, civilians, law enforcement, 469 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:20,040 black, white, whatever it may be, but truly it's just a humanistic problem 470 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,020 we have. You've got centuries of trauma and pain and hurt. 471 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:31,820 And so now when we continuously see the Tamir Rices, the Philando Castells, all 472 00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:34,960 of these images of people losing their lives as a community. 473 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,820 It is really hard for you to tell me to keep a level head and come to the table 474 00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:42,020 for reconciliation. 475 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:46,500 As a cop, you have to recognize that uniform that you wear and the badge that 476 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:50,940 you wear means something totally different to the people that you are 477 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:51,940 to protect and serve. 478 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:57,860 Yeah. The last question is, how has this experience changed you? 479 00:30:58,260 --> 00:31:00,060 For me personally, I know just... 480 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:03,540 This whole transformation, this whole process has been me going from a 481 00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:06,440 discouraged place of like, well, it is what it is. There's nothing I can do 482 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,060 about it, to now saying, no, I got to do something about it. All of us can 483 00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:11,060 actually have an impact. 484 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,980 And the more people who start to do that, then the faster we arrive at the 485 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:17,980 we want to be. 486 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,340 I do think we're in a historical moment, though, because you can see the younger 487 00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:25,520 generation starting to ask questions that they weren't asking before, that we 488 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,320 didn't ask when we were younger, and things that are coming to the forefront 489 00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:33,580 of conversations that, quite frankly, need to be had. 490 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,720 I'm just blown away by you guys. 491 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,420 Not everyone becomes a hero when they're faced with this kind of shit, and 492 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:43,320 history will see you that way, and I see you that way. 493 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,100 Thank you for coming today. 494 00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:46,580 Thank you. Thanks for having me. 495 00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:54,890 And that about wraps it up. You know, last year I ended shows by saying, good 496 00:31:54,890 --> 00:31:59,650 night, America. I love you. Well, this year I have a new fun clothing that I 497 00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:01,850 just came up with and I think you're going to love. 498 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:04,190 Get in the zone. 499 00:32:04,990 --> 00:32:05,990 Auto zone. 500 00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:07,510 Good night. 44818

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