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Previously on The Real Housewives of Orange County.

When

we

went to your bridal thing, I felt like you weren't really into it. I appreciate

it, but...

I don't need all the wedding stuff.

Jen is still friends with Alexis.

Is she? Yeah. She said she got his save the date card, but she is not going to

go to the wedding. Those choices affect how close I'm going to get to Jen. Is

there any going forward with Groucho? No. I have kept my mouth shut forever.

You kept your mouth shut?

Yes, about all this I know about you. Yeah. Fighting fire with fire with her

the best way.

It's not funny anymore.

It's not. This is like fighting fire with lighter fluid.

I wouldn't do it if we didn't move each other along.

I don't really know what the levels of kindness are.

But I'm definitely still feeling the effect of the

space cake.

How long is it going to last? Because I'm puffy, and I'm puffy.

Really? Are there Q -tips in there?

You want me to find a Q -tip in this disaster?

No, sorry, you don't get a Q -tip.

Good morning. Good morning.

I'm a little on the struggle. You're a little on the struggle. I bet, right?

were having fun last night. I had a little too much fun. Oh my gosh, this is

pretty, babe. Thank you.

Hi. Oh, you look so pretty.

Thank you. You too. Good morning. You're like a tulip Barbie.

I love it. I am. Tulip Barbie. Tulip Barbie.

So tomorrow, I planned something for us, but I've never been to the tulip field,

and they are in bloom right now.

Insane. Gorgeous. Very good.

Why do we keep walking barefoot in foreign land? Because it hurts.

I put one very thin band -aid on, and the shoes are too tight.

I was so excited when I didn't have to travel with toddlers anymore.

I need a band -aid. My toes hurt.

Oh, let me see if I have a blister blocker.

Ow! And then I met Shannon.

What is that?

These are mushrooms.

Mushrooms? Oh, gosh!

I chachipitate our drugs.

We need three to four grams each.

Okay. Heather is absolutely the friend that my mom warned me about in high

school. This is such a normal conversation we're having. Morning. Good

And no one would ever suspect it.

Who wants to partake with me and Gina?

I'm not, no.

Okay.

It's not that bad. It tastes like walnut.

It tastes like a musher.

Apparently, when you take these... Truffle mushrooms, colors, they're very

vibrant. So I thought, what better colors to see than a tulip field?

This looks huge right now. It's called the fall sweet, Rob.

What is this contraption?

Okay, so this is a fall sweet. And then it hides the back fat. Oh, look at that.

I like snakes because it...

Sucks it in. I wish they were tighter. It spanks till I die.

Let's say you meet a guy at a bar, and he, like, wants to, like, grab your ass

or something, but it's, like, all built and tucked in.

Like, that's not hot.

So last night, like, me and Jen go to the bar, and then Gretchen just, like,

such a downer. Oh, no, that's me. She's got her feet in your... Drive it.

Woo!

I don't... I don't understand why she'd want to sit at the bar.

It's like she just creeps around you. I know.

That's so funny. It's true, though. It's like there's never, like, a

confrontation. There's never a conversation.

I thought she was going to be way spicier, way bigger.

She's nervous. She's worried something's going to come her way.

She just, she's, I don't know. The Tamara Gretchen carousel, I would like

to stop and I would like to get off. It borders on obsession. It's weird.

Jen was having a good time and you never see Jen a little tipsy. But honestly,

Tamara, Jen is whoever everybody tells her to be.

Well, we've had a talk about that.

Well, you're friends with Alexis, right? Are you going to her wedding? She sent

me the same date, but last time I was with Shannon, she asked me not to go.

Nobody should ever tell you who you should hang out with or who you should

friends with.

See, but this is the problem. So Shannon is saying that she wasn't going to go

to the wedding, like on her own. So I don't understand why now Jen is saying

that Shannon asked her not to. I feel sorry for Jen. When you're friends with

Shannon, you have to obey her rules.

And I did it for so long, and now I see Jen falling right into it. It's not like

she's a bad person. No, not at all. She's just trying to love the one with.

Let me get my sunglasses.

Oh, my God, you're filthy.

Fat on my blush.

Oh.

Oh.

I think I do feel these mushrooms.

I'm getting some Wizard of Oz vibe.

Yeah. Gina, come here. Are you lost?

When you're walking through a flower field, the possibilities are endless.

I want to run.

Just do it. Just feel it. If I break my foot, I'm going to be in the tulips.

Then you just want to spin that windmill.

Logs with flowers in them.

Do you think that the tulips look like they're outlined?

Yeah. Yeah. You look like a tulip.

We're not the criers. There's nothing to cry about.

Oh, he's in the middle.

Well, no excuses.

Yeah, no, baby.

Can we go sit on that horse?

I'm going to hold on to the penis if I can get him.

This horse is not real. I can grab onto it.

What are you doing?

Do not fall.

It's like plaster.

A real one doesn't feel like plaster.

Do you remember?

Yeah, I remember.

I remember what a penis feels like.

Yeah! Good, Cannon. Giddy up. Giddy up.

Oh, no. Look at the three of them.

They're riding into the I hate Tier 1 clubhouse right now. Over here. Run me

over. Let's go.

Giddy up. Giddy up.

Shannon is leading the charge. So she's clearly the president of this club.

Gretchen's the historian because if you need something brought up from 15 years

ago, she's your girl. Just don't put Jen in charge of finances.

We are the fun club over here. Remember when Alex's wedding got brought up?

Yeah. They told me that Jen said that Shannon asked her not to go directly.

Really? I was talking to Jen about Alexis. You know, I'm like, you're

like you're not friends with her, but you are. Oh, I asked Shannon about it

yesterday. I said, you say you have all these boundaries.

Oh, yeah. But Jen still talks to Alexis.

She makes love to the camera. Seems like a bullshit friendship. Like, why can't

Jen just say...

I'm friends with Alexis. I'm friends with Alexis. It's too bad. Also, the

bridal shower. I'm like over here. I supported the shit out of Shannon last

year. I went through the worst year of my life. I thought my whole relationship

was going to implode. And now this is what bugs me.

Let's celebrate that Jen's still engaged a year later. She's still at Travis'

party. Right.

This is more about my friendship with Shannon. She kind of pushes me away

because I'm the one who will hold her accountable for me.

Just because I do care about you and I know the place that you've been in, I

don't want to see you go back to... Oh, I'm never going to, Gina. But it's

appropriate for me to worry about. I appreciate the worry. It irritates me

because I'm going to piss you off sometimes, but it's what's in your best

interest. But then I'm going to be the one who's considered lower.

Well, they're coming over here. We need to all be in the best day ever. It is

the best day ever. It is the best day ever. I'm going to sit in the teacup.

first, we're going to go eat. Yeah, let's go.

Oh, they have popsicles.

Oh, this is cute.

What? I guess you grab a plate and just get stuff.

Oh, I just want to sit for a minute.

Heather, can you serve us, please? Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. Did I do that?

Did I do that?

Thanks,

Heather.

This is, I'm not doing it.

Wait, there's more people.

She just served me.

What would you like?

My lady.

Well, thank you, Heather, for bringing us here. It was beautiful. Yes, I'm glad

we got to see it before they went away. I mean, these are their last legs. What?

What last legs?

The tulips you're doing. Oh, I see. Right.

The circle of life. Yeah, well, yeah, that's the circle of life. Life events,

circle of life.

What's everybody doing this summer?

Gina being high.

is the equivalent of giving a New Yorker 15 cups of coffee and then winding them

up and just letting them go. She does not shut the f*** up.

I want to know something.

I have a question.

Oh, me?

Well, yeah. Because the whole thing came up about Alexis' wedding.

Was that this summer?

Yeah. When we were at Tamara's, you said you weren't going to go to her wedding

because... For her.

Right, but then somebody else said that you asked her not to go, and I just

think like this. She didn't ask me not to go. Why aren't you going? Because she

got her.

But you shouldn't force you to not go to your friend's wedding. But that's the

situation I'm in.

I didn't tell you not to go. I didn't tell you what to do. But not about the

wedding. Are you okay with her being friends with her? Yeah, they're saying

you're good friends with her. I do like Alexis.

I've told you that.

I thought you weren't. anymore. What are you talking about? Your issue is your

issue with Alexis. She's never done anything for me, Shannon.

I get it, but if you look at some of the things she did to me, they're pretty

freaking disgusting.

Do I need to pull out the videos? Johnny's ready to talk.

It will ruin her life.

She has videos of her at the night of her DUI.

It's not easy for me to be friends with someone who I know is close to someone

who's really not kind to me. So let me ask you, if I tell you I don't have

issues with Alexis, Now are you judging our friendship?

A little bit, yeah.

That's dumb.

Yeah, it is. That's dumb.

You can't dictate who's friends with who. I'm not close with Alexis.

No, I'm not super close with Alexis. I think her impression is that you have no

relationship with her. That has been my impression.

Okay, yeah.

I'm not a friend dictator.

But if the situation were reversed, I wouldn't be close to someone that hurt.

A friend of mine.

Shannon has issues with Alexis.

I don't. Am I a friend to you, Shannon, because of my friendship with Alexis?

No. I just think it's like you tiptoe around the way you actually really feel.

Like you couldn't even tell her that you didn't really want that shower or

whatever it was.

You know what I mean? You didn't want the shower?

No, she didn't want the shower. She thought it was ridiculous.

I never said that shower was ridiculous.

What are you doing right now?

Wait, you didn't want the shower?

No, she didn't want the shower. She thought it was ridiculous.

I never said that shower was ridiculous. I said I don't do it. We were talking

about how ridiculous it was.

Shannon, I love her, but why is she having a bridal lunch?

I don't know.

Why are we having a bridal shower for Jen when she doesn't even know when

getting married?

Thank you.

What are you doing right now?

Tina?

Wait,

did you say fake?

My friendship with Jen isn't fake.

It hurts my feelings because I wanted it to be beautiful for Jen.

Do I appreciate the bridal shower? Yes. Would I have picked that for myself?

No. But sitting here with all my friends and pointing that out to the one person

who spent all that time and money planning it for me feels rude.

I didn't have an issue with it. Would I have asked anybody to plan that for me?

No. Are you really the correct person to be doing this for me? Yeah, I know,

right? And not for nothing, Shannon, but I had her back so hard last year. I

went through such a horrible time last year with Travis, and then my family

comes back together this year, and maybe that's something to celebrate.

She wants a party.

Oh. I don't want a party. I just want things to be based on genuine beats.

a genuine feeling. I'm super happy for her. What is the issue here?

I feel like the issue really is the two of you. Like, I can see this new

friendship forging, but it didn't seem very authentic. There's a lack of

communication between you and Shannon. And we feel like you just automatically

roll with it. Roll with Shannon.

Like, don't go around.

Blindly. You guys have this new friendship.

You're always together. You're laughing and stuff, which is great. And I love

that. She's probably going to that wedding. Jesus Christ. Can someone not

her gummies anymore? She won't shut the fuck up. I can't.

Whatever.

No, you don't stop talking.

I'll stop talking. Jesus Christ.

All right, you go ahead. No, no, I'm done now. Sometimes you just need your

friend to tell you to shut the fuck up.

Don't get mad at me. You guys, we have to go. We have to go to the hot tub. Hot

tub away. I hope the hot tubs are cold.

Yeah, I hope so, too. Why couldn't you have planned a cold plunge?

Yeah. Oh, my God, it's so hot.

That was pretty.

That was really pretty.

I just got to pee so bad right now. You can pee in the hot tub.

Ew. So what do you think Ryan's going to think about your new Instagram?

Without him? Without him in it. When I open up Instagram, I feel like I follow

Ryan.

So you have this Instagram.

It's worth money.

We just don't want you to get in the kind of position that you were in the

time around.

Where you got divorced, you didn't know about money, you didn't know about

finances. I'm not there. You didn't have anything to do.

I didn't even think about it like that.

And you're the same way. It's not all you and Slade.

Yeah. It's mainly you.

It's just such a cute outfit. I love it. So if you guys want to grab it, comment

the word below, and I'll send you a DM. I mean, it's a full -blown business to

me. I know people, like, make fun of everywhere.

I don't care.

That's Gretchen making content.

She's selling the hat.

Use code Gretchen20 for the hat. Gretchen20!

If you get really good at it, like, it can make a lot of money.

I've always been a serial entrepreneur. I have, like, six different businesses.

That hopefully is going to be forever just male money coming in. I think it's

important to be able to stay on your own two feet and not depend on a man. I

want that for Jen. I love this advice. I'm all about the side hustle. If I

ever reach Gretchen's status, oh my gosh, I'd be so proud of myself.

I never even think to be like, can I just shoot something myself?

I need to start doing that. I think it will be good.

I am going to do what I need to do to become more financially responsible.

Ryan will be so butt hurt.

Sorry, Ryan.

I'm not even faulting him. Look, they're a couple. They're trying to build

things together.

I support that. I just don't want to see my friend get lost.

She's a people pleaser. Yeah. Like we were talking about earlier.

And even that, Shannon, I apologize. My intentions were not that you're doing

something fake. And I know it came out wrong, so I'm sorry for that.

I wanted her to feel special, whether you believe it or not. No, I believe

For you to say, and she didn't even want to do it, that hurts my feelings.

Because that's what she told me.

That's what I heard she was saying. You know what it means? She didn't want it.

I'm not going to lie. It's a little stupid.

I can't wait to put on a bathing suit and get in a hot tub.

Yeah, hot tub and a bathing suit.

Just darling.

Hi. I mean, I Googled things to do and this whole jacuzzi boat situation popped

up. You get in a hot tub and it goes down a canal. Oh my God, I love that. So

bring your bathing suit. I'm bringing my bikini.

Hi. Where does the water come from that fills the boat?

It's just drinking water. Oh, okay. I think she wanted to know if it was lake

water. No, no, no.

It's really clean. Yeah.

There's a dressing room here. Okay. I do not want to submerge my blister in

unsanitary water.

It's a crock pot.

I'm waiting for someone to throw us some carrots and onions.

We're clearly having housewife for dinner.

Because this is a very classy situation.

I got you all hats, so here's yours.

What is yours?

Throat coat.

Throat coat?

I love cocktail.

Perfect. Oh, my God.

Yeah, that's way better. I think Heather looks really good.

Seeing Heather Dubrow wear a hat that says I love cock on it is my favorite

thing ever.

I understand why the girls think I'm not funny, because this is the bar.

Take a picture.

Shannon's moister than an oyster?

I mean, come on.

That's funny.

No, I've never been called moister than an oyster.

Because you know she's not. She's wrapped in fake.

And by the way, everyone hates the word moister.

We're going to divide up Gretchen. Don't get in yet. And Emily.

And Tamara.

Jumping in the hot tub with Emily and Tamara is like setting myself up for a

death trap. This is my last -ditch effort to bring these two together to

kind of resolution.

Would you like to share with each other? Oh, look at you guys.

Once this crockpot comes back to land, that's it. I'm done. I'm out.

It's not that hard because there's a spring behind.

Okay, okay.

And then he will go automatically down. Oh, my God.

No, this is forward.

That's the problem.

Has anyone of you already been driving a boat before?

She's actually the boat person. Okay.

Well,

the boat's off right now, so it won't do much.

Let's go.

I got it.

Slow it down now. Okay, now get her straight. I know how to handle this run.

Okay, turn this way. Yeah, good.

I'm going to slow her down now.

We're going to be merging on the 405 right now. Yeah.

And this is lane N.

Yeah. Why lane N?

Gina, they're going to cut in front of us. It's go time, ladies.

This is where guilt is going to be shown.

There's a boat approaching.

I'll turn the other way, Shannon. You're going to hit that boat. Come on. Oh.

Watch out.

Watch out.

What are you doing?

I'm sorry, sir. I'm trying our best. I'm a skilled boater.

Coming up.

I don't talk about you.

You're not relevant.

They might as well just pull the plug out the bottom and think they're home.

Let's go the other way, Shannon. You're going to hit that boat. We're stopped.

We're stopped!

What are you doing?

I'm sorry, sir. I'm trying our best. I'm a skilled boater. No one else could

drive it.

Better Shannon driving than me.

Should have seen this one coming.

I think we should give it to a dating website and make it family.

Pictures. Look at it. Look at how I physically get into it. Yeah, real

Can we just get one?

I'm a bloater.

I'm a bloater.

Go.

Take this one.

Show how big your rod is. It's hot.

Can we get a photo?

It's hot.

No, no. You're going too far that way. Right, right, right. Correct it. There

you go. All right. Now we're cooking with gas.

I'm trying to get through one bridge.

Who's driving that boat? Santa?

Are we okay?

I understand the concept of this person didn't do anything to

me. I just thought things were a little bit different.

In my conversations with Jen, she has led me to believe that she's not

with Alexis.

Do you have a relationship with Alexis?

I don't see Alexis. Let's say she invites you to her wedding. Are you

go? Probably not, Shannon, because I know what it would do to us. I'm telling

you the truth on that. Thank you.

It makes me potentially question the honesty that I thought was between the

of us.

Whenever I met Alexis last year, you and I weren't like we are now. And if you

say to me, Jen, it hurts me.

Because of what you went through with her, I can listen to that.

I'm not saying never speak to her again.

I'm not. I just want you to understand that my relationship with her, that

certain lines were crossed, doesn't mean you need to listen to it.

But I don't want to hurt you. And if it hurts you, that matters to me. I just

wonder why you think she's so great.

Does Alexis talk to me about Shannon? No, and I wouldn't be comfortable with

that. Trust me.

Shannon, trust our friendship enough to know that this woman has been nothing

but good to me, and I have shown you nothing, Shannon, but being an amazing

friend to you.

I think you guys just need to do it now. It was just a fifth. I just didn't know

about where you guys were.

Does that boat say Jansen?

We're going to just do a little ding in it.

We're going to go that way. We're going to hit you. We're turning around.

This is like bumper boats.

This is how I crowded you on Jansen's boat. I ran right into another guy's

Cameron, is there anything you'd like to say to Cameron?

No. Gretchen, is there anything you'd like to say to Cameron?

Cameron's open to listening. She told me. Oh.

You have to talk loud because I've got the engine in my ear.

Emily and I talked in the car, and I know you probably won't be receptive to

this, but... Why would you say that? Because I messed up, and I feel really

about it, and I shouldn't have said what I said that night, and I'm up in L .A.

I thought that we agreed to, like, stop.

Like, no more.

So this is the guy that she said it with her stalker. Here he is again.

Well, that's not great. Tamara, you show up with the... evidence every single

time we get together.

I messed that up. What was your intention at the charity event to you

to come at me and then you were like heckling me and all that. That was

everyone was saying that you were going around telling them something about so I

was asked.

Yeah, because people knew that she had a conversation with Katie. So people were

saying what happened, what was said. I think she's really hurt because you guys

did have some kind of a pact. She has a right to feel that way. And you breached

that agreement that the two of you had immediately.

I felt justified at the time. I'm not saying it's right.

But see, that's the problem, though. A lot of times you think she did

then it's okay for you to do it. But then that's why this is never ending

because it's just one thing after another.

matter what he says well i'm but i'm just assuring you i'm telling you that

the past three years that she and i have been friends she has not talked about

emily is definitely being a flip -flopper right now i mean why am i the

that's being singled out about this i said i'm sorry and then she came and

started screaming at you so i guess i'm a little anxious to go try that again i

thought that was too aggressive like that it is camera lives in code red

more code red over there

Why I decided to get in the hot tub is because I want to move forward, but I

also feel like the two of them are probably the most aggressive towards me,

don't know if it was my best decision.

You have to

recognize your part.

and how we've gotten to this position.

It's because you have also perpetuated the story. You have also said things. I

guess the way I see it is when somebody asks me a question, I answer it

honestly. So I didn't see it as that way. So maybe I need to take a look at

that. I like that.

I would agree with that.

What if she was more introspective and actually recognized that maybe she's

fueling the fire?

Does that help you at all? Yeah, it would totally help.

Totally help.

I need to take a look at that. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I don't want to keep doing that, and maybe I'm doing that

unknowingly. That's the best thing you've ever said to me right there.

I feel as if Gretchen's starting to actually look at herself and maybe take

accountability for her own actions and wants to continue that.

Can we just agree?

No more?

No more.

No more. We have to actually agree. We have to agree.

Yeah, I mean, I'll agree. I hope we both can do it.

Are you hopeful?

No. No, not even a little bit.

Had I felt like there was a change to happen, it would have been when she

supposedly accepted Jesus Christ into her heart. But it didn't happen then.

So you really think I'm going to think that she changed now?

Listen, Hedorah, you're going to have to park this thing. And you think that

that's an issue?

Look at this. Look at this tight squeeze I got. You get into driving like I do?

Oh. Oh.

You're going to fall off. Oh, she's still going in. Hey,

we're just going to go back and relax and go to dinner.

Okay, ready?

I have a blister now. What?

What? So, this is my iHeart. So, we get, like, headlines, and then iHeart

chooses what headline we're going to put on the podcast. So, did something new

happen?

No, this is the old thing.

So, this is about the... The back rent. The studio.

So, they're saying that you still owe... We do still owe. This is the exact same

judgment as last year. You said that agreement you had with the previous

landlord was a verbal... Yes.

Yeah, I mean, the new landlord, they're coming in, they're going off of the last

written contract.

We did a modified rent plan during COVID, but now we're back in full

obviously, and so that money is owed back.

What came up on your phone?

It was Jen ordered to pay six -figure judgment after allegedly failing to pay

rent on her studio. When Tamara shows that she has concern for me, I don't

how I feel about it. There are moments I think Tamara genuinely wants something

good for me.

But it never lasts.

Is it true?

Yeah, she just said. This is another reason why she has to be smarter about

Instagram and setting herself up.

Because she's got big girl issues.

I know. You know?

Like, well,

lawsuits and owing money. And so when you have big girl issues and you have

people coming after you for money, you've got to get yourself set up

financially. Yeah.

I feel like instead of wrapping all your time up with Ryan, go to school.

Get a job. She could have been so much better off right now five years into

this. What happened on your boat?

Yeah, that's what I want to know. Oh, I was there.

You guys sounded like you were hot. We were hot and heated.

Yeah, there were arms flailing.

Are you getting upset?

What's up?

What made you so satchy?

Because I just feel like there's been so many things that...

and hurt over the years so i don't want to be like the person that you guys are

seeing it being but you see that you guys are both hurting each other yeah i

don't i don't i guess i'm not recognizing that i'm doing that i don't

that person like it's not who i am i don't want to hurt anybody i think it's

just become like a defense mechanism by the fact of you You're even saying

exactly what you're saying right now. Like, I'm super impressed. Yeah.

At her core, Gretchen is a really sweet girl. I've never heard her trash people,

and we've always had a very nice relationship. You can justify things not

however you want, but if people's perception of you is a certain way, you

to, like, at least look at it.

She's not, like, an evil menace, so I feel bad that she's going through this.

Coming up.

I have a hard time really believing that that is who Gretchen is. I don't really

want to tell Heather, but it's also like once you see stuff like this, you've

got to call it out. You can't ignore it.

Look at my room, honey.

That's the kind of mood I'm in.

You're a goat. It's like your hat, honey. Regina said, no, I think it's

when you deep breath and you sound like a goat. You're like, ah, ah, ah, ah.

Stop it.

Adeline, I can't walk.

What? I might have to have my toe amputated.

You should go and get some weed to make yourself feel better.

I ate a bite of something called a spree muffin.

I'm going to be stoned for two years.

Yeah, they're stoned.

At the tone, please record your message.

Hi, Luke. I miss you. I'll be home in three more days, but I need you to be

good, okay? I love you.

Oh, yeah.

Hi.

Are you going to Ace's game?

I am going to sit in bleachers. Yeah. Me, Terry Dubrow. Terry's the kind of

that spent time with them and knows them.

You know, my dad was a great provider, but we didn't have that kind of close

relationship. I realize how incredibly grateful and lucky I am. Do people talk

to you and recognize you guys?

Well, I mean, don't they recognize me everywhere?

I mean, it's the question is, you don't recognize me.

Did it happen? Yeah.

We're missing Jen and Gretchen.

But let's go wait in the car because the car is going to leave. Let's go.

It's rush hour. Are we all in the same? Yeah. Okay. So what's going on? I don't

know. The only thing I can say is Gretchen, she didn't feel good in the

Hi. Hi, I'm here.

Where's Gretchen?

Gretchen is possibly coming later or maybe not coming. Why?

What is going on?

I don't know. I just can't stop crying.

It comes from where?

All the years and all the pain and all the hating her. What is it?

Yeah, I mean, it's all of it.

She's very emotional.

About what?

Don't take it immediately as an attack on you. Don't react. You can't do that.

Because what you're going to do is you're going to open your mouth and

going to step back again. Look at the game in that restaurant. Leave the bowl.

Thank you.

I feel like we're at the mall. We are. It's adorable.

We've got to order what we want.

Bowls and dogs.

Love it.

Should we get a hot dog? Probably.

I don't want a hot dog.

I don't know yet.

Can I get a classic dog and onion rings?

There's a taqueria. Oh, I like tacos.

That's what I'm going to say to Terry. It's boom, boom, soccer time.

We're shenanigans.

With Jen somewhere. Is everything cool with them? With the whole Alexis thing?

Five, six, seven, eight.

Sorry. You were with her.

But they didn't really get anywhere.

What about this?

One, two, three.

It's a little work.

I gotta let this sit here. Is there a line?

What is a porn star martini?

What is it?

Yes, well, she made her debut in the red light. I did.

We're thinking that might be a good cocktail for her.

Oh, she loves passion.

She likes to kiss.

Neck up. Do you enjoy kissing?

Always.

This could be a good night.

I'm a good wing woman.

I do not care what continent this man lives on. How old is this guy?

21? Wherever it's meant to be, will be. So I'm always working for my girl.

There's no cougar in me.

That looks like what's in my stomach right now.

This is where my waitressing skills from college really pay off. I ordered some

spring rolls.

They're coming up. Oh, that's great.

This is where you thrive, the food.

I'm bugged now.

I know.

Stop being bugged. I'm not going to say anything to her. I'm just bugged. I

don't think it was about you.

Gretchen was very upset even on the bus ride home.

You think that she went and talked to Slade? Yeah, when you're that emotional

and you call your husband.

Hi, love. How are you?

I had a little meltdown.

I'm so sorry.

Well, I'm trying to move forward.

I really am. Everything that's happened in the past should just, at this point,

just let it go.

There's obviously emotional issues on both sides, but if she's willing to work

things out, I know for a fact that you'd have interest in doing that.

There's just so much pain and so much hurt for years and years and years. It

still affects my life to this day. What I call my spirit guides, my guardian

angels, are literally giving me warning to not trust her. You think you're in a

beautiful field of tulips and you're just walking along and there's a snake

it harms you.

Love you, dog. Bye.

I've tried to always get Gretchen to see her side of things. She never sees it.

I feel in that bus, she did.

I'm telling you. And that's why she was so upset because it was like for the

first time.

No, it was genuine.

Do you think maybe that she feels like picked on and she's the new kid in town

and don't want to pretend like she's a good person?

No, you don't. I, I, I.

Don't back me in here.

Yeah, let's not pretend.

Hold on, I told her she should come, so I did not tell her she should come. Good

one, we're only two hours late, but I made it.

Yay!

Sorry.

Are you hungry?

There's a wiener here.

You want it? No, I don't think so.

They're bringing some food, but I don't even know what I got. Are you okay,

Crutchers? Yeah.

Yeah? I'm okay.

I'm glad you're here.

Oh, thank you so much.

What are you all looking at? Because everybody asked, where were you?

And I just said, she needs a minute. She's upset.

Yeah. Gretchen, do you want to talk about it?

No.

Okay. I guess she does need time to process it. So maybe that's what she's

doing. She has to call Slade and tell Slade that they came to some kind of

resolution. And I think that's exhausting, probably.

Maybe she needs a nap.

What is the emotion for you?

I just, I think the best way to say it is lots of hate.

I mean, I hate this back and forth with us.

Yeah, but we stopped it and you started it back up. So you can't say you hate

it. When you engaged in it.

Today.

She apologized with self -defense.

Okay, but she still did it.

I'm not saying that was good.

I feel like it's never going to be resolved.

But it doesn't have to be like that. But you guys agreed in the crock pot just

to stop talking about each other. And that's the only way we're going to have

changes if you guys just stop doing that. What happened between feeling like

that and then when you got to your room?

You know, here's the thing.

Yes, it was a long time ago, right?

But that doesn't mean that all the feelings and emotions just disappear.

I think things just come up again, and I think that's maybe what's happening. I

was hoping that maybe there would be, like, looking back, I shouldn't have

these things, I shouldn't have said these things, I shouldn't have brought

up.

I can sympathize with Gretchen because sometimes you want an apology, but the

apology has to be authentic.

And I've been in that situation where I say,

I'm not going to get it with Tamara. But that's why everyone has to be

accountable for their part in it. I absolutely want to be accountable for

100%. And if you feel like I've been bashing you for 12 years, I'm sorry for

that.

I know we talked about it earlier.

We've already, how many times?

No, stop!

If you feel like I've been bashing you for 12 years, I'm sorry for that. I know

we talked about it earlier.

But she needs to stop.

Why are you telling me to stop? Because I've already sat down with you. And it's

like every two weeks I've got to sit down and have this conversation.

It's just really grateful to me. We agreed not to say anything else. She

couldn't even honor that for a full week. And now you want more apologies

me?

I don't want that.

Honestly, I really don't. Then we're just going to be stuck in the same

Yeah. You guys have 12 years of shit built up. You know, no one's going to be

like, bing, okay.

You know what? I see you completely in all of your points. This is a really

complicated, like, multi -layered circumstance.

Yeah. I think you both would feel so much better moving on from it. You carry

much of this.

Yeah. And I thought maybe that's what was happening tonight. Maybe it was a

release coming out, and that's why you're so emotional.

Maybe. All that toxicity is just... Yeah.

Maybe.

The whole thing with, I don't know, I have a hard time with her, but there are

times when I find her to be endearing.

And I do think sometimes she will kind of back down sometime and take a look at

herself, which I appreciate. But see, that's where I'm struggling with her

because I like the person in front of me, but I'm starting to think like, is

this other person? Like the post, the social media, I can't get it out of my

head. About two weeks ago, I was at the dispensary with Tamara, and she brought

up these incredibly alarming posts that Gretchen had liked.

Read that.

And look who liked it.

Gretchen Rossi liked it.

That's not good.

I'm not stupid.

Tamara's doing this because Gretchen brought up the rumors in L .A.

It's so awful. Maybe that's why I'm, like, short with her, because I...

know about it, so it's hard for me to recover from that.

She showed me a post online that Gretchen liked, and it's, like,

And I'm just like, is this true or not?

Literally. It's not okay.

But are we sure that there is no chance that that's doctored? Some of them she

even commented on.

Like, how do you forge that?

Heather's going to have a problem with that.

I have a hard time really believing that that is who Gretchen is.

Look, I just live by the rule of innocent until proven guilty. And at

point, the information is coming from Tamara. So that suspect.

in itself this whole thing I can't I just can't let it go like it I it

me it really bothers me are you gonna tell Heather and I don't really want to

tell Heather because I feel like I don't want to start a thing and it's such a

real raw topic especially for Heather but I feel like I have to bring it up I

don't want this to be the truth but it's also like once you see stuff like this

you've got to call it out you can't ignore it because it's not okay

I'm genuinely confused by this. Like, anything I've ever heard Gretchen say is

love and light. I mean, for God's sake, the woman is over 40 and she still wears

headbands and bows.

She doesn't seem like the type of person that's walking around launching hate

campaigns on people.

Obviously, she would be given an opportunity to explain or address or

Honestly, like, that's something that, like, she should explain. She needs to

explain.

Because it's not good and it's not okay.

Next on the season finale of The Real Housewives of Orange County.

Okay, I can't look. Keep my eyes closed.

I keep going back to the post that you shared. No, I know. Don't bring it up.

Leave it for tomorrow because then we get on a plane in the morning.

Why are you not horrified right now?

That is not my truth. Do you biblically feel like it is?

Biblically?

Something's amiss here. This is not who I am. Get out of here.