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Hi, Tessa.

Hi.

How are you doing?

I'm doing good. How are you? I'm doing good. A little shook up?

Yes, I am a little shook up, but it'll be okay.

What happened on your way here?

Well, my car broke down, and it's pouring rain, and I have no insurance.

So your beautiful gentleman had to come pick me up, which is...

Very, very kind of you.

Yeah, we were supposed to start at 6, and then you phoned and said you were

running late and stuck in traffic, and then phoned again and said you were

putting antifreeze in your car, and then we didn't hear from you.

Well, okay, you said you were talking to, you were talking on the phone, and

said, I got to go, I'll call you back, and you hung up, and we're sitting here

going, I wonder what's wrong. Is she okay? And then you didn't call back, and

you didn't call back.

And so we called you, and you said that you were going to get a ride from a guy.

Yeah. That was there at the gas station that offered you a ride.

Yes. And I flipped out, and I said, no!

You don't get in the car with anybody.

Yeah. Ever.

I know. That's so sweet of you. Yeah. Well, you know, I don't think people

realize how many times women get abducted that way.

Because, you know, and nine times out of ten, these guys are.

So sweet and nice, and they think it's going to be safe, and then you get in

car, and it's the last anybody ever sees of you.

Yeah. Anyway, it all came out okay because... I'm here.

Jay and Spade went and picked you up, and you're here.

You know, we just have to make sure that you get home safe after the shoot.

Yeah, I know. Because I'm really worried about you.

I know. I'm worried about me, too.

You have to forgive me. I'm a little bit motherly. I like it, though. You took

my mom, so it's okay. I'm serious, man. Well, I just, I really care about

people, and I care about you girls.

You know, I think I'm going to do the interview a little differently tonight

because I want to talk about something.

You had mentioned that you had considered doing video shoots before you

us. Do you want to tell me what happened with those?

The bad ones that I met with? Yes.

Well, I met with a few people, and they're all very verbally abusive and

disrespectful.

That's why I like you guys, because you guys are very respectful and you're out

for the people and not just for the money.

And the people before I met, very pushy. That's probably the best attitude to

use. Very pushy, very rude, and just kind of

assholes. And I really like that you guys are genuine people.

Well, Aaron told me that when he was talking to you on the phone, you had

said... Oh, the one guy I met up with who didn't pay me?

Yeah. Yeah. What happened?

It was here in Salem, actually. I met him.

That was in Salem?

Mm -hmm.

That was in Salem. I didn't know there was somebody else here in Salem. Well, I

think it was kind of like a one -time thing. He posted an ad on Craigslist,

then I answered it, and I met up with him, and he said he would pay me a

amount of money if I did it.

A solo video. It wasn't even supposed to be with him.

But then he showed up and didn't even have anything. No camera, no equipment.

Which was really sketchy. Oh, my God. And where did you meet him at?

Or you said he showed up. Showed up where?

I met him at a hotel.

And it was the Motel 6 right by the Red Lions.

But I don't know what exit it is. I think it's like 256.

Market Street.

Yeah, Market Street. Exactly.

And what hotel was it? Phoenix Inn?

Motel 6. It was a Motel 6?

Mm -hmm.

Okay, girl, I'm going to tell you right now, don't ever, and if there's any

women watching this video, do not ever meet anybody in a hotel.

Yeah. Do not get in a car with somebody you don't know. Have emergency numbers

on you. For God's sake, take my emergency number with you. Yeah, I will.

know, believe it or not, a lot of the girls I have worked with,

I mean, they call me mom.

Yeah, I believe it. They call me once in a while, let me know how they're doing.

If I don't hear from them, I'll call them.

You know, I mean, they've gone on, some of them, to get good jobs and get

married and have babies and all kinds of stuff. But I still talk to them. Yeah,

I want to talk to you. You're so beautiful.

You're an amazing person, so I trust you. Thank you.

But, yeah, geez, never a hotel.

It was, yeah, it was. Well, my hope for you is that you move on and, you know,

get a decent job and don't have to do this again. Yeah. Okay. I'm pretty sure.

So what else? And so what happened? Did you just, like, run out of there, or

what did you do? Yeah, basically I asked him why he didn't have anything, and he

said, oh, I have it, I have it. I just want to get to know you first. Don't

worry.

Which is understandable. So we talked for a little bit, and then he just,

started groping me.

He just, like, threw himself on me and, like, tried to make out with me.

And after that, I was like, whoa, I'm not here to make out with you. I was

to do a solo video. You didn't even say it was with a guy or you or anything

like that. And he just kind of kept talking, like, giving me lip service,

giving me excuses why we have to wait. And he asked, like, see what kind of

person I am and if he can even work with me and all this stuff.

That is creepy.

Yeah, it was really creepy.

It was really creepy. I mean, he was, like, half my size, so I didn't think he

was going to, like, try and, uh.

hurt me but he he easily could have he could have pulled out a gun and said

you're not going anywhere but it was really creepy and then and this was on

craigslist uh -huh it was off of craigslist if you see that ad again i

to call me and tell me what one it is i was trying because i am tiff yeah i was

trying to remember and he um

Yeah, he just kept trying, and I was like, look, I have to go. I'm going to

drive home now.

Because I will call him, and I will set an appointment, and I will go over there

as if I'm going to go film with him, and he's going to hear it.

Yeah. Because that is super freaking dangerous. Oh, it was so dangerous. I

to track him down so badly. I don't even know if that was his real name. I want

to know who it is. Yeah. I'm going to see if I can't find out. And then you

another experience?

The other experience was a role play video.

And when I met up with him, I told him my name, and he said that he wanted to

role play that we were on a date and that he was going to force himself on

And before I even had the chance to say okay, he slapped me right across the

face, straight up slapped me. And I was like, I can't do this. I'm sorry. I need

to go. This isn't professional at all.

And then he felt really bad, of course, and, like, paid me for my time and

everything. So at least he, like, paid me. Yeah, at least he paid me. He was

just like, I've been in a relationship for 10 years. Like, I have had no

control, and I wanted to, like, have control over someone. And I said, look,

a respectable girl. Like, I understand this isn't a really respectable thing

that I'm doing.

But if you're going to, if you want to slap someone, go find a hooker on the

corner and, like, someone who's willing to let you beat them up. Or not that

hookers are willing to do that, but.

There's a lot more people that are willing to do that for money.

Okay, but, you know, let me tell you something. A few years back, the

administration started a task force to start going after adult companies that

produce that kind of content.

Even though it's role -playing, it is illegal to depict on any kind of video

tape and post it on the Internet anything having to do with rape,

peeing, fisting, anything like that.

highly illegal. There's been a lot of companies that have been indicted for it

in the last couple years.

Anybody that is filming that and putting it on the internet is breaking the law

and they're putting themselves at risk.

Also, I'm going to say this since this is on video and I have members watching

these videos, it's also illegal to watch it and if they do bust the website

they're going to go after the members.

So I would strongly advise anybody whether it's a paying member or whether

somebody thinking about filming it, stay away from it.

I have no idea that scat porn is illegal.

I mean, not that I'm into it.

It's absolutely illegal now, and they will come after companies that are

producing it. And there's still quite a few of them on the web, but they're not

going to be there forever. And they're going to come down on them, too.

So, you know, just for your own sake and your own safety, be very, very careful.

I mean, even if you see something, you know, down the road, I hope you don't do

this again.

Yeah. You know, but if for some reason you have to do it, call me. I will put

you to work. Yeah. All right? I don't want you girls.

This is one of the reasons, you know, I remember back before I started this, I

was an accountant by trade. And I've worked for over 30 years, you know,

an accountant and things.

And, you know, I was on the Internet several times.

And looking at some of these sites, and even the cleaner ones, the ones that

aren't breaking the law, just filming sex, the way they treat the girls is so

awful. It's awful. You've got some guy holding a camera, doing POV, whacking

himself off, and, ooh, baby, oh, God, baby. And all this stuff, and it's like,

it's disgusting.

And so I, you know, I just thought, one day I thought, I wonder what would

happen if I started, you know, helping these girls. Yeah. Because a lot of them

do. They put themselves in danger.

You know, and I, you know, because they're going to go somewhere.

Just like you. You've been, like, trying to find someone to make some money so

that you could survive. Your car's breaking down, you know, and stuff. And

economy is so bad. And I thought, well, at least I could give you a safe place

to come where you could at least enjoy yourself and be safe, you know.

And that's why I do it. And I'm very protective.

I love that. I'm in love with you already. Like, it makes me so happy.

Well, you just call me. And then if you ever think about doing this.

I'm telling you, Oregon, like the bigger companies down in California, the

professional ones, they're cool. You know, they treat their girls pretty

Not as good as we do, but, you know, they're not crazy like that. But some of

the stuff I hear from the girls that I film that have had similar experiences,

it makes me mad. Yeah.

And I'm going to start finding out who these people are.

Seriously, you really should. You know.

You should, yeah. Because Oregon, you know, we don't have any obscenity laws

here, so it's not illegal to film here. It is in some states.

But there are some real creeps that have started up this crap.

Yeah, you should.

So anyway, we'll get off that.

So what's going on in your life that you feel you need to do this?

Why am I a desperate amateur?

Yeah.

It's okay. I mean, believe me, it's not anything to be ashamed of. There's

people that have business degrees that are applying at McDonald's right now and

can't even get a job. I know, I know. A lot of those people. actually um well

basically there's two things i mean i love having sex so why not get paid to

have sex and that i've always considered kind of being the porn business but at

the same time i have a real morality issue with it i'm not christian or

but i i just

I've actually wanted to start my own website, kind of like you, to be a

producer, call the shots, treat the girls really well.

Because I know what people are looking for. I'm a huge porn watcher. I watch

porn all the time. Every kind of porn there is. I mean, you name it, except

child porn.

I don't watch that.

But I'm really picky, and I'm really, really critical about a lot of porn.

And I think a lot of people really enjoy amateur porn because it's super real.

There's no fun. Well, it used to be until the pro market hijacked it. Yeah.

now they're going, oh, the best.

Best amateurs.

And I signed up for some of the sites just to see what the competition is out

there. And you get on there, and it's some girl that's been in 30 movies. And

she's been doing it for five years.

She's called Carrie the pizza delivery girl now instead of Jenna the French

maid. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the baby girl. So they're not really

amateur. Most of the amateur sites aren't amateur.

Yeah. They really aren't. They're pro -amateur. It's not easy to film amateur

porn. Unless it's couple porn or something where they have about like a

handheld kind of thing.

Right, but the majority of the amateur sites are not amateur, not true

Anyway, so besides the fact that you have an interest in the industry, what's

the real reason you're here right now? I'm traveling.

I'm going to Europe, so I have no money. I've got like $200 to my name right

now, and I want to go. And a broken -down car.

And a broken -down car, which I don't even want to think about right now.

That's okay. We'll make sure you get home safe.

Yeah. So it's for the money.

For the money to travel. So it's two reasons. Yeah, definitely. Are you going

overseas? Mm -hmm. I'm going to London.

You better be careful.

I know. A lot of girls get kidnapped in those countries. Yeah, that's part of

the human trafficking trade.

It's really huge.

Be careful. God, you worry me.

I'm telling you.

So, well, you know, it's good to travel. Just make sure that you go with a

travel company and somebody that can make sure that you're not going by

and not knowing what you're up to. I'm going there to visit a really good

of mine.

Oh, then you should be okay. Yeah, I think I should be okay. I'm really

about it. But, yeah, I have no money to go. I bought the ticket.

My parents helped me buy the ticket for my birthday, and now I have no money to

go. So it's kind of like I need to acquire money really fast because I'm

in four weeks.

Well, between what you told me about showing up at hotels and...

and meeting up with these guys that are supposed to be filming you that aren't

and putting yourself in danger that way and almost getting into a car with a

complete stranger tonight on the freeway, you're lucky you're here.

I know.

And I hope that when you leave here tonight and you go home, you think

good about what happened.

And how to accumulate money in a safe way. Yes, in a safe way.

You guys put me to work. Yeah, this is not enough, but, you know, maybe we'll

put you to work again real soon. So just promise you're going to be safe.

I will promise, and promise that you won't change because you're beautiful.

What's that? I said promise you won't change because you're a beautiful lady.

Oh, well, thank you.

I'm not changing. Nothing can change me. I am who I am. Yeah.

So it took me a lot of years to get this way, so.

Okay, so we'll just go ahead and get on with the scene then. Okay.

Okay, I want you to enjoy yourself. There's water on the table.

Be yourself. No acting.

I don't want any acting. I hate acting.

None of this, oh, I just love swollen cum and all that crap. Just be yourself.

Okay. Laugh, cry, whatever.

Okay, well, we'll let you do that. Okay. Okay, Tessa. Okay.

Tessa.

Speaking of tassel.

Whoa.

Should I get naked?

Well, eventually, yeah. Yeah, you're going to do your masturbation piece

Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. So chill out for a second.

Is he going to watch you masturbate?

We can make him leave the room.

Yeah, go away.

Good God, you're going to be having sex with him.

I'd rather have sex with him than have him watch me masturbate.

Well, you want him to leave the room too? He needs to get a few pictures.

It's okay.

Did you guys, like, do crack whores and stuff?

Do what? Ever? Like, do you ever, like, hire crack whores? Are you saying you're

a crack whore? No.

No. I haven't done drugs in a long time, actually, unless we found drinking.

Okay. Actually, we haven't had any crack whores.

Apply? No.

Most of them don't have phones or computers.

They've got Go phones. I've seen a few of them with them. Yeah, but they don't

usually have computers.

That's true. Yeah. I mean, let's say they have a library or something.

Yeah. So honestly, so after you had your two bad experiences, have you actually

done a video, been paid for it, and been on film before?

Yes. How many times?

I've done one legitimate website video for ATK.

And then, that was like a month ago now. That was exactly 30 days ago today. And

then I did two private videos that were just like... You mean somebody pays you

to do...

Yeah. But then they put it on film for them, for themselves. Yeah, for

themselves, yeah.

Did you sign any paperwork?

Mm -hmm. I signed a model release for both of them, but I don't know. Well,

know that once you sign that model release, they can do whatever they want

it. Are you aware of that?

Yeah. I figured as much, but at the same time, I'm okay with that.

Okay, cool.

I figured, I mean, even if they're not putting it online, they're going to show

their friends or show somebody, you know, so it's like.

Yeah. Either way, once it's on film, you can't really displace that.

Are you showing? Okay.

Go ahead. Yeah,

I just want to see. Am I pierced? Is that okay?

That's fine.

Okay. Do I get to play with anything?

I'm not a big toy fan. You want some toys?

No, it's not that big of a deal. I'm just saying.

I guess I have to think about something.

Let's pretend we're not here.

Do you need somebody to be naked? Because she'll take her clothes off.

You will? No.

Why, you want me to? Yeah, get naked.

Why not?

Seriously. Yeah, if you guys did it naked, that would be really cool.

Do you want me to be naked?

Yeah.

Why don't you guys ever have sex?

Because we're best friends.

I thought you guys might have been a couple.

Nope.

No, I'm divorced.

Recently divorced.

I thought I was going to have sex with two people, but it's okay that I'm not.

Are you disappointed?

No.

No, it's not that.

No, he'll have sex with babes, and he might come in and do his pop shot at the

end. Yeah, that's what I hear.

That's better.

Oh, I see.

So, what do I do when I'm masturbating?

I don't know. How do you normally masturbate? I'm thinking about it.

I usually watch porn, so.

Can I close my eyes?

You can do whatever you want.

Okay.

You're right. This is amateur.

Or real, I should say.

Okay, I want you to get into it and not talk.

Yeah.