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Original subtitles

This programme contains strong language and adult themes

Wow. Previously... I love it.

..as the retreat brought some couples closer...

I know that it's love.

I'm on the love road.

..it pulled others further apart.

There are personality traits

that I need in a partner that I'm not seeing.

Any kind of connection is missing at the minute for me.

She doesn't want to be with you, and she doesn't find you attractive.

Enough is enough.

The reality is, I am being mugged off.

While Julia-Ruth's candid comments...

Steven is someone definitely that I would go for.

..triggered a backlash from the group.

It's selfishness.

It's at her expense, and it's at Divarni's expense.

And that's what hurts my heart, Julia-Ruth.

Shut up! I've had it.

I just can't do this any more.

And as Maeve battled with her struggling marriage...

I'm sitting here when everyone's talking

about their relationships and looked at me like a mug.

..Ashley revealed the devastating truth.

I asked him, "Do you love her?"

He couldn't really answer it.

Now I just feel like a BLEEP idiot.

I don't know what else I can do.

Tonight...

Oi, oi!

..it's the retreat dinner party.

Hello.

As Joe's late arrival...

You got asked if you had any feelings towards me.

..sparks an explosive showdown with Maeve.

You didn't say anything.

What the BLEEP am I meant to do?

I've been crying for a week, man!

For Julia-Ruth and Divarni...

You could have walked away. You're a grown man.

..their marital crisis spirals...

Don't talk to me like I'm a BLEEP kid.

Well, then, don't act like one.

It's always about you, and this is the problem.

..and the group is caught in the crossfire.

Why are you so worried, babe?

He deserves the best, and you haven't given him that.

I don't give a BLEEP!

I think you've hurt the boy sitting next to you.

Pull your BLEEP up because you're boring as BLEEP, seriously.

You're an evil person.

How are you feeling after girls' day, Leah?

I'm a little bit worse for wear today.

Morning. Morning.

The couples are waking up to their final day of the retreat.

Your arms look very muscly today, Ashley.

Thank you. I was just thinking that, Ash.

I haven't trained for four days, actually,

but thank you very much for the compliment.

I thought you was having a tea.

Have I caught the sun?

Yes, you definitely caught the sun.

Waking up this morning, you know, it was girls' day yesterday.

I am feeling hazy.

It was a good day, though.

Yeah? You have fun?

Yes, I believe I did.

Maybe too much fun.

How did your games go yesterday?

The gold envelope come out?

Mm, yeah, it did. Yeah, obviously.

I think one of the questions was, "Who would you pick

"to be with outside of your own marriage?"

Um, and I just said the same as I did last time - Ash.

Yeah. Who did you guys have? Was it the funniest...?

We had the funniest.

Um, I said you and Leisha.

Oh, yeah.

Obviously, Ash had said you as well.

Well, fair.

Yeah, I answered mine honestly. He is, do you know what I mean?

If I was paired with someone else, it would be Ash, but...

I mean, we always said that we were just going

to answer these hypothetical questions.

Doesn't mean anything.

It's just a game, isn't it, at the end of the day?

Me and April, we just had a little debrief.

These questions, they are there to test our marriages.

There's no point reading too much into it.

I suppose I'm just going to have to deal with it.

So, yeah.

Did you speak to Ashley?

Yeah.

I was like, "I shouldn't be finding out how Joe feels through Ashley."

Like, that's not...OK. No.

I'm not angry at him.

But, like, I'm more angry at Joe. The situation.

Mm. Yeah.

What if Joe just decides to come tonight?

Well, that's fine.

Let him show up.

It's been over a week.

Do you know what I mean?

I think you need to hear an explanation from him.

If I were you, I would like some clarity on some things.

I think you deserve that, at least.

Yeah.

I get that, obviously, he's struggling, but at the same time,

I'm meant to be there for my husband,

and I can't be there for my husband cos he's not here.

I am broken.

It's really upset me, and I'm hurt,

and I feel like this isn't the Joe that I know.

Why would I want to be with someone that can do this to us?

Show up tonight. It's the last night of the retreat.

Literally the last night of the retreat.

Just shit.

I feel a little bit tired this morning, but I feel

like we had a really good girls' day yesterday, didn't you? Yeah.

We had to have that discussion with Julia-Ruth, didn't we?

Like, we knew it was going to happen. Yeah. Yeah.

I think, at first, her apology was just

a bit more just she knew she had to say sorry,

so she was saying it as opposed to realising the damage

that she could have potentially done.

I think it was like a sweeping apology of like,

"I'm just sorry to everyone cos I know I've done wrong."

And she still kind of didn't...

Yeah, she didn't. ..didn't take accountability for it all.

Did she end up admitting that it wasn't a bit of a plot, didn't she?

Sort of. Yeah.

That's what I mean - it was all kind of.

She basically said, when she met you,

she realised that she liked your energy and the way you look

and everything.

She didn't say, "I plotted," but she was basically saying,

"Because Steven's my type,

"I did want to get to wife swap

"and I wanted to spend time with him and see if we had like a good time."

So we were like, "Well, so you're basically trying

"to get into him, like you're trying to turn his head."

I know I'm going to have to see Julia-Ruth at the dinner party,

but I can't be fake.

I am annoyed at her.

It's bringing out the insecurities about the way I look and stuff

cos obviously I look at her, I think she's gorgeous

and she's a 10-10, and I'm like, "How do I compete with that?"

It's in the back of my mind, it always will be.

It's just a selfish thing. And also, that's not why we're here.

She doesn't get to choose who she's with

and steal someone's husband.

Or try to. Or try to.

Sorry, yeah. Try to.

Yeah, 100%.

The Nelly and Julia-Ruth situation is, it is wild.

Personally, I'm just getting frustrated cos I think Nelly

should be secure in herself.

So, going into the dinner party tonight,

hopefully my name doesn't get mentioned

and cause any more drama.

Let me just eat my dinner and drink my drink and go home.

I definitely needed some time to think away from Julia-Ruth.

A lot has transpired.

There has been a lot of pain.

I would like some accountability.

Of course, feelings just don't go away overnight,

but I have to be realistic with myself

if it's really going to progress forward.

And I've come to that realisation that it's not.

Going into the dinner party,

Julia-Ruth needs to know where, obviously, I stand.

It took the girls' day out to acknowledge

that it doesn't matter what I say.

People want to hear what they want to hear.

They don't want to hear how I feel.

The girls' day kicked off really quickly,

like Nelly piping up about the relationship.

I'm like, "You're such an insecure person."

A lot has happened since being here.

Divarni should have been by my side, and he wasn't.

I don't really care any more.

The gloves are off.

I'm not going down silent or without a fight.

I'm back to me.

I don't want to do another dinner party alone, man.

I'm here by myself

when everyone else is with their other half.

Of course, I'm going to be hurting.

I'm a little bit nervous about seeing Maeve.

The marriage is a bit up in the air since I left...

..but I've come back with a more positive mind frame,

with the intention of trying to go forward with things.

I don't know what me future looks like for me and Joe.

I've been waiting and waiting for him to come back.

I do want answers but, at the same time,

is him not being here my closure?

Our chapter is unfinished.

It's make or break.

Hello.

Are you for real?

What? Are you for real?

What? Ugh!

Well, I wasn't expecting that.

What were you expecting, like?

I don't know.

What, like a hello, maybe.

I'm really confused.

You're confused? Yeah. You're confused? Yeah.

How, how, how are you confused?

Well, you're not saying anything.

You're acting like you fuck... Oh!

I'm acting like what, that I've been fucking left

and didn't know what the fuck was going on?

Is that how I'm acting?

You knew what was going on.

You knew why I fucking went home.

I've had...I've had to go home for personal reasons.

I ain't just fucked off on holiday.

So if I can just say something without you,

like, reacting, and just let me say it.

Mm-hm.

So, I was coming here with a bit more of a positive mindset about...

..like, maybe we could, like,

make things, or try and make things work.

What did you say to Ashley, at the spa?

What do you mean?

Well, you obviously had a conversation with Ashley.

Yeah, I said what I've said to you. Yeah.

What?

That, like, we've got problems.

Um, there's, like, big differences, but I still,

like, love you and care about you.

That's what I said.

Well, that's not what I've been told.

Well, tell me, then.

You got asked a question, right,

if you had any feelings towards me,

and apparently you didn't say anything.

I can't fucking recite it,

or whatever the fuck you say, word for word.

He said, "Do you love her?"

And I said, "Yeah, I do love her in a certain way,

"but are we deeply, madly in love? Probably not."

That's what I said.

Cos we're not.

It's not a big deal.

It's not a big deal?

Why? I don't...

Well, it is a bit of a big deal,

when you're saying one thing to him and another to me.

Like, you've said that you love us on the couch,

and then next thing you know, like,

"Oh, yeah, like, I feel like we're a proper couple."

And then...the next time I'm doing it, I was by meself.

Have you ever, like, thought about my point of view in this?

No?

I've been fucking crying for a week, man!

It's not OK!

What the fuck am I meant to do?

Like, this is the fucking problem.

We can't just have a conversation.

It's clear that there's, like, a massive issue with,

like, our communication.

You're making out that I'm always the problem.

I'm not. But you are.

I'm really confused to how what I've just said... Right.

Whatever. ..is making out you're the problem.

But this IS the problem.

What's happened has just opened me eyes again.

It's just not going to work, is it?

Well, what's the point?

What is the point?

Yeah, this ain't going to get resolved, so...

..let's just call it a day.

I don't give a fuck.

I actually don't. Really? No, I don't.

I don't care.

Fuck this.

Fuck this.

I'm so confused with everything that's going on.

Joe shouldn't have said that he loves me.

You don't tell someone that you love them and don't mean it.

That's on you.

No chance.

Well, here we are, fifth dinner party.

Not only that, we're on retreat.

Right. And, of course, this is such

a fascinating stage of the experiment,

where our couples are in

a much more relaxed environment.

It tends to be quite revealing.

People drop the mask and really start to show who they are.

Yeah, I think this kind of vulnerability helps

to forge some really great connections,

so let's see how they get on.

Are you excited? I am.

We're the first.

And we skip. I love it.

Davide and Keye.

Looking loved-up as always.

You feel like they always come in as a unified couple. Yeah.

How are you feeling about our dinner party?

Good. Yeah?

Can't wait for a nice quiet one.

I think, I think now you're being optimistic.

Unrealistically optimistic.

Oi, oi. Hello.

Hi, guys. How are you?

We're good. How are you?

Good. Thank you. Looking dapper. You look stunning.

Well, of course, last time we saw Grace and Ashley on the couch,

things were very tense,

but their body language is a lot more at ease,

there's less tension there,

and they're laughing and smiling together.

Did you enjoy girls' day? Yeah.

Well, I keep saying there was no drama

at girls' day, but... I know!

We may have misremembered it.

Uh, it doesn't seem like Maeve is feeling great.

Look, I knew it was kind of...

It was obvious it was coming, and she's going to be hurt about it,

but I thought I was doing the right thing.

I was trying to give Joe the opportunity to speak to her.

What exactly did Joe say to you?

Oh, to be honest, it was so long ago as well.

I think he just mentioned that their compatibility,

he was struggling with their compatibility.

And they've just, in their marriage,

they've been skimming over things and not really addressing them.

He was really struggling with the relationship

and whether it was right or not.

He was questioning whether it was right or not.

Ashley said that he had spoken to Joe,

but it sounds like a lot more was discussed,

more than we actually realised.

When Joe was at the last commitment ceremony,

he talked about his struggle in opening up to Maeve,

but yet he had no issues opening up to Ashley.

Yeah.

But I was like looking after Maeve when she was crying,

and I felt awful, do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Cos it wasn't my place to kind of say it.

We could tell at the commitment ceremony that you were like...

Conflicted. Conflicted.

You just wanted to say something, but you couldn't say it.

I was lying to her as well, to Grace,

and that was kind of eating me up.

You were between a rock and a hard place.

There was no way you were winning in this. Yeah. No.

THEY EXCHANGE GREETINGS

Rebecca and Bailey.

They seem to just get more and more comfortable

with each other every week, don't they? Yes, yes.

And also, Bailey's sleeves get tighter and tighter every week.

Yeah.

What happened in girls' day?

Yeah, give us the entire day. We had a good day.

I had such a good time. You always do.

I'm a little bit jealous of girls' day. We had a really good time.

There was questions that went round.

"Who would you rather be matched or married to?"

Julia-Ruth locked in Steven on both of the questions.

I also feel like... Stop!

No, you're joking!

I mean, I know these games are important,

but, like, she didn't HAVE to say it.

She could be like, "Guys, I've hurt Nelly enough.

"I'm not going to say any more. We all know the answer."

Julia-Ruth has chosen Steven again?

That's going to cause some tension, I'm sure.

And a bold move on Julia-Ruth's part, I must say.

THEY EXCHANGE GREETINGS

And here they come - Nelly and Steven.

Hey, handsome. How are you?

You good?

Nelly, is there anything you can share from yesterday?

Cos I think we've shared it all.

Obviously, Julia-Ruth and...

Yeah, straight in.

I'll be civil to her. I have no problem with that.

But I have no interest in...

Yeah, I'd have no interest in being her mate.

She did an apology in a baby voice and then burst into tears.

Oh!

We've, we've all done it. It's not a sincere apology.

I'm so sorry... IMITATES BABY VOICE

Like, it's not sincere.

So the group is really starting to see right through Julia-Ruth,

and now everyone is very sceptical of her.

And you have to wonder,

once she becomes aware that the group is sceptical,

what does she then do? Right.

THEY EXCHANGE GREETINGS

Leisha holds on to Reiss for dear life.

Gorgeous. How are you?

You all right, my friend? How are you? How are you?

Mwah. How are you? Look at you.

I love the straight hair.

Wow, what's everyone on? The beers, yeah? Yeah.

Things are sound as a pound with you and Reiss?

Yeah, things have been going really well, yeah.

He's still quite a closed book, though.

I think there's still, like, a lot of layers to Reiss,

and I feel like it just will take time. Yeah.

Cos I'm such an open book - what you see is what you get -

and I feel like I am struggling a little bit with that

cos I'm so not used to it.

And then I kind of take it as a rejection.

Reiss and Leisha continue to have an issue

with pacing and appreciation, really,

for the speed that they need to become emotionally intimate.

And also, Reiss's natural character is quite laid back, isn't it?

Yeah! And so maybe what Leisha also needs to do

is to acknowledge that this just might be him.

Yeah.

And how's things with you and Ashley?

I can see that there's definitely feelings there.

Yeah. 100%.

I have been a little bit challenged because April just...

Keeps going at Ash. ..goes for Ash every time.

Like, she could change it up. She could choose someone different.

Yeah. She's been quite clear.

And she's never once come to me and sort of said that.

Do you think it's worth you having that conversation?

No, it's more like... It's just a bit rude now.

Just a bit like, "What's happening?" Honestly, do...

OK, so that's new information for us.

And we're seeing Grace defaulting into that comedy mode again

as a way of really protecting herself.

You can see she's feeling uncomfortable.

Yes.

Oh, look, here he is.

JUDGES GROAN

Divarni's alone.

You OK, my boy? Yeah... Come on, Divarni, brother.

Good on him, though. Yeah, good on him.

I was going to be... If they walked, if they walked in together,

I'd have been like, "No, I'm not even doing the dinner party."

Cheers, bruv. Cheers. Cheers.

Hey. Have you spoken to Ruth?

No, I haven't seen her. Have you not? No. OK. Shit.

The hardest part about all of this

is the fact that I actually like her.

That's the hardest part.

And brushing that to say that I don't

is a complete fucking lie.

But, yeah, a little bit of nerves,

but it's just having that real conversation.

I really feel for Divarni.

He came here hoping that things were going to work out and,

well, it doesn't feel like that's happened. Yeah.

I feel like you're being strong, mate. It's a difficult situation.

You're in this experiment. You've gone through a lot.

And I'm hoping that some of

this discussion he's having here with the men in the group

will help him realise he deserves a lot more.

Hello. Hello!

How's everybody?

Ah.

John and Abi. I mean, look at them.

Gorgeously happy, as always.

Hi. How are you? You all right? I'm good.

You could say pretty perfectly matched, right? Yeah.

How are you getting on? Yeah. I'm getting on really well.

Yeah. We're just more comfortable with each other,

and, like, it's bringing out kind of,

like, different sides to us. Like, we're goofy with each other now.

Like, we just mess around and have fun.

And it's not... Like at the beginning,

it's kind of like more serious chat, isn't it?

Cos you're getting to know each other.

Maybe that's where we went wrong. What, we got to know each other?

No. They went they went serious to goofy. I went goofy to serious.

Yeah. Yeah. I think... That's what it was.

I wanted to just, uh... Yeah.

Basically see how everything's getting on.

There's a few things that need to be different, I think.

The Julia-Ruth situation has played out. Of course, I know.

She said to me, "Look, when someone like Julia-Ruth comes in..."

and she sees Julia-Ruth as like a 10-10,

so why wouldn't I be interested in that?

And I'm like, "Yeah, but what you got to realise is

"you're a 10-10 as well."

I know she likes you. Like, she only wants to be with you.

You know that. She thinks the world of you.

But she doesn't feel totally secure. You know what I mean?

So what we've seen here is that Steven

is clearly getting quite frustrated.

He probably feels that by saying to Nelly,

"Julia-Ruth's a ten and you're a ten," he's done his work.

Yeah. But I imagine that would probably fall on deaf ears.

Nelly's been cheated on by her previous three partners. Wow.

There's so much pain there. She needs more.

She needs real reassurance. She needs action. Yes.

Oh, hey. Hey, everyone. How are you doing?

Hello, my love.

A confident entrance.

April has a spring in her step as soon as she sees the group.

You've caught the sun like me. You have! Great time.

I'm quite like you.

How are you doing? Really good. How's everything with April? Yeah.

Yeah. Good.

Um, I think I just needed this retreat this week to...

Oh, good. Yeah.

..to get more... Closer?

Closer, but be a bit more myself as well.

April's a very supportive person.

She is very supportive. And very patient.

So I am lucky that I've got her.

Very vibrant, very confident. 100%.

She's someone you'd be attracted to on the outside?

Yeah. Yeah? Massively. Looks wise as well?

Yeah. Dream woman?

Yeah. OK. Yeah. Great.

Hmm. OK.

What he's saying is, "Yeah, things are great."

Be interesting to see what April feels about this.

How has your retreat been so far?

Ah, yeah. No, I like... I've really, really enjoyed it.

I think the whole thing last week with me and Leo

was that we needed to spend more time together.

And I can see this week that he's had,

you know, he has come a bit out of his shell more. He said that.

Yeah. The only thing I'd say with him is like,

he really does like you.

He's such a genuine boy.

He's so nice. Yeah. I mean...

What I'm struggling with at the minute is

I'm starting to feel guilt.

Where there isn't a connection for me, I just wanted that.

It's not like I'm like, "Oh, I want your connection,"

cos, you know, you're like 15 million steps ahead of us.

So that's not even, like, remotely that for me at the minute.

You feel it at all or...? What?

Like, you don't have that at all?

Any... Emotional connection?

Yeah.

You can, like, you can be honest with it.

Um...

Probably not though.

Oh, wow.

Do you miss him at all or no, when you're with the girls?

Are you excited to get back to him?

Are you excited when you see him?

Like...

Are these all the things you wish were there?

Yeah. Yeah. Course.

I think what's a shame here is

that Leo seems completely oblivious to this.

You know, he isn't aware at all that April has these feelings.

It's a personal question, so feel free just to not answer.

But how did you feel like about him after you connected physically?

We did it pretty much instantly

and then a few times on the honeymoon,

but each time I was intoxicated.

Yeah.

And then the one time I did it sober

because we didn't have that emotional connection,

I was like, "OK, this is not for me."

OK. Do you know what I mean?

So maybe that's how you... That is how you truly felt.

Yeah, maybe.

Hmm.

I think Rebecca is pushing the myth that sex is a test

around whether or not there's a real relationship,

and it's just not, you know, it's the emotional intimacy,

the emotional connection that's paramount.

But, like, this week has been a lot more positive.

And he's so good at listening to anything I have,

any grumbles with, and he is...

He is genuinely really trying,

and I think that's why I do feel more positively this week.

I don't want him to ever feel blindsided.

It was hard to hear.

She probably regrets sleeping with him,

but I feel like as a couple they've got so much potential,

so I hope they do make something work.

And I think she's been really open and honest about her feelings

and I back her for that.

Grace, I feel really close to you at the moment.

Oh, Ash. Why? What's going on with you?

I don't know. That's why I think this retreat's been amazing for us.

Oh, that's nice! Maybe it's the rose.

HE LAUGHS

Have some more, babe.

I think Ashley had a bit of a vulnerable moment there

and then thought, "I'm being a bit too vulnerable."

That's the shame.

If that interaction happened without the joke,

they would have connected on a deeper basis. Yeah. Yeah.

How are you doing, April?

Yeah, I'm all right, mate. How are you doing?

You've not had a good week, have you?

I heard a bits and bobs about what happened

on you guys' side yesterday.

Everyone was getting the question. What was the question?

If you weren't with your partner, who would you be with?

So it was obviously a little bit intense for Julia-Ruth,

but she just said it was Steven, 'cos she thought,

"If I don't say his name again, it's going to be like I'm lying."

Yeah. And she was like, "Cos I've already said that."

So it would seem that she would be lying again if she didn't. Yeah.

At the last commitment ceremony,

we were highly frustrated with Divarni

and we let him know he needed a reality check.

Hearing that Julia-Ruth has picked Steven again,

I think he just got it. Yeah.

It's just sad.

It's sad and emotional for sure, because it's like,

I feel like my feelings did play a huge part in, like,

me not seeing the truth.

It is definitely frustrating to hear,

like, what happened yesterday -

your wife talk about another man - for sure.

But the marriage is over

and I've got a lot to discuss with Julia-Ruth.

Get off my chest the stuff that I need to get off.

And...that's it.

Hello. Hello. Hi.

Ah, here's Leigh and Leah.

Good to see ya. You got a nice little colour.

Thank you. Hello. You all right? Good, you?

Your energy seems low. Are you good? No, no, no. The bubbles.

There's a lighter energy here. They're holding hands.

So this is definitely a step forward.

Do you guys think Joe will show up today?

Yeah. Mm-hm. Do you reckon?

I don't know if it's just, like, a gut feeling.

There's just like an air of something going on.

If he wants to close it or he wants to keep it going,

today has to be the day. So...

Maeve. Maeve! Oh, no.

Oh, and here's Maeve entering alone.

You all right? You all right? It's OK.

Fucking hell.

Oh, in tears immediately.

You OK?

No, am I fuck.

So, basically, um, Joe's just come back and, uh...

He's here?

Oh. Joe is here. Wow. He's come back.

Yeah, course I'm shaking cos he's a fucking arsehole.

And I was like, "You've had a conversation with Ashley,

"and you said that you didn't know if you loved us."

And he was like,

"Anyway, when I said I loved you, it wasn't that deep.

"I wasn't meaning it was like proper." What?!

He was like, you know, "I'm not madly in love with you."

And I...I was like, what the fuck?

You know what he turned around and said?

"The communication."

GASPS Excuse me?

Or maybe it might be like how we talk to each other.

I just thought, "How much of a fucking mug am I?"

You're not a mug. I am a mug! You're not, you're not.

I know I am a mug

because you don't fucking say that to someone.

You don't say that you love them and then fuck them off.

The last thing he said to me was like,

"It's done, the marriage is done." And then just stormed off.

Just shit. Like, who the fuck are you doing that to?

Like, you don't do that to someone. That's not on you.

That's not on you. That's not on you.

Oh, that's not fair. Shocking.

It sounds like he's just turned up to the retreat

to tell Maeve that it's over.

Ouch. So where is he?

It's every fucking day.

It's nothing to do with you, man. It is...

No, he's a shitty person. No, no... This is a shitty thing.

This is not on you.

Maeve, this is not on you. No! It's not you.

It's not on you. It feels shit, man.

We know that one of Maeve's biggest fears is letting her guard down,

falling in love with someone,

and then them just leaving and deserting her.

And it seems that this is playing out once again for her.

Maeve looks fucking distraught. Yeah.

I feel like it'd be important that she doesn't take this

and, like, kind of affect her going forward.

Do you think him coming in was him like hoping

to mend things or just tell her face-to-face that it was done?

Why would you not get as far as coming in here?

Like, how does that go? He's come a long way as well.

Yeah. He's not... He's not a dickhead.

No, he isn't. That's what I mean.

He's not handled this very well at all.

We're kind of judging it just from Maeve's side.

Yeah. That's true.

I think he's probably still here,

so I'm gonna go and try and chat to him.

I'll catch you in a minute. Yeah? See you in a bit.

All right. See you in a bit.

Um, I'm feeling a little shocked after the chat with Maeve.

Um...

It's not really how I expected it to go.

KNOCKING ON DOOR

Joe, are you all right?

Let me finish this, mate, and then...

I think it's a good time to have a chat, mate.

No. Why not?

It's not working. I came here with positive intentions

to potentially carry it on.

Yeah. It didn't go how I thought it was going to go, and that's that.

Like... I'll tell you from my point of view, she's walked in.

She said... Her words were that you said,

"I said I was in love with you, but it weren't that deep.

"I wasn't... It's not that deep for me to say I'm in love with you."

I said, "Maybe we're not deeply, madly in love."

You said you're coming in here hoping you can make it work.

Everyone in there's saying,

"Joe's a stand-up geezer. I never thought he'd do this.

"He's a stand-up guy. I never thought it'd come to this."

So I feel like it's important

maybe for people to kind of hear where your head's at.

It might be important in, like, that room,

but to me, I honestly don't care.

Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying?

Is there nothing I can say to fucking... Honestly, bro.

Like, the idea of, like, debating it and shit like that in there,

I'm just not... It's just not... I just don't want it.

So the marriage for you, what, is the marriage...?

Yeah. Of course. What? Marriage done?

Of course.

I just wanted Joe to come in and get his point across.

I know he's been struggling with a lot.

It's going to be tough to tell Maeve that

Joe said the marriage is done,

but it's important that Maeve kind of hears everything that he said.

HE LAUGHS

I can't believe that!

Fucking Jesus, man.

Fuck me. I just want to go home.

Fuck this shit.

Jesus Christ.

I've said everything I need to say to Maeve today.

The conversation we had

made it clear to me that we can't move forward.

I don't regret saying that I love her

because that's how I felt in the moment.

My feelings have never been a lie.

It's just whether we're right for each other.

And I don't think we are.

The marriage is 100% over between me and her.

This is it. And it's done.

He's coming in. Is he all right?

Where's he been?

No sign of Joe.

No. It is a shame that he isn't able to come out

and tell the group what's going on.

And, of course, have a bit more of a conversation with Maeve. Right.

I just had a little word with Joe.

So he's not... He's not going to come in.

Wow.

Um, I did ask him about the marriage

and he did say it's 100% over and it's done for him.

He said that he came here to make the marriage work.

That's why he's come all the way.

So why the fuck did he walk out then?

Last time I found out how he felt was through Ashley

and now it's through Bailey.

I did think there might have been, like, that little bit of hope,

but what is the point in wanting someone that doesn't want you back?

The end of it is he's not coming in.

And he did say that the marriage is done. So...

It really is a shame that Joe has chosen this way

to end the relationship,

rather than coming to us at a commitment ceremony

where we could guide them as a couple through this process.

It sounds like Joe's intention was to get things back on track,

but it clearly has gone wrong.

But it still doesn't fully excuse him not being here

and telling us what's going on. Mm.

How are you feeling about Julia-Ruth coming in?

I'm a bit anxious, a little bit nervous,

but you know what I mean, it is what it is.

I've been hearing all kinds of shit,

and I've been mugged off multiple times,

and I'm just hearing more in-depth details about everything else.

And what's been recurring, unfortunately,

is the whole Steven thing.

Is that kind of like what's kind of been the tipping point?

Is that what keeps coming back up? Yeah.

And you weren't able to...? Just more details about it. Yeah.

When she can't answer the experts whether she fancies you,

your partner, like, that is wrong.

Like, if you can't even say that you... Like, you...

Here she comes, bro. ..you attractive, then, like, 100%.

Hello!

Oh, Julia-Ruth. Here she is. Yeah.

Hello.

Hello. Hi, gorgeous. How you doing, my love?

Hi. Oh, you look great. You look amazing.

Hi, bubba! Yeah, I'll say hi. I'm not...I'm not giving her a hug.

You OK? Yeah, man. Yeah.

It's always going to be difficult. It's always gonna be awkward.

It's never going to be easy, honestly.

How are you? Fab! Hi, bubba.

I think if you've got anything to say to her...

It has to be done now. I know. So say it now.

Don't hold it in and let it come out later.

No, no, no.

Julia-Ruth is absolutely Divarni's weakness.

He can't take his eyes off her. Yeah.

And I feel like Julia-Ruth knows it.

Did they say hi to each other?

I don't know. Where is she? I missed the moment.

Was there a hug? She's there behind you, with Leah.

I think Divarni needs to have a chat with her more than Leah does. Yeah.

Bro, you need to go and clear the air,

speak to Julia-Ruth, just get everything off your chest.

Why don't you go and pull her for a chat now?

Yeah? Just go and do it, bro. You've gotta do it at some stage.

Just go and do it. Yeah. I wish you all the luck, bro.

Everyone... Everyone's gonna be looking.

Come on, Divarni, you've got this.

You've got this, bro. You've got this.

Can I speak to you? Wanna have a conversation now?

Yeah. You ready to have a conversation?

Yeah. We can have a conversation.

Oh, God. It's going to be... It's gonna be shit.

I know. Cut the tension with a knife.

The thing is, is that Divarni and I have tried so much.

It is now becoming a toxic relationship

because a lot of trust on both ends has been broken.

I've done nothing but listen to Divarni.

So I need to tell him where I'm at and how I'm feeling.

Come on, let's do this shit.

I mean, I would love some blanket, if that's all right with you.

Do you want to come inside?

No. I'd like to just love some blanket.

I was trying to wrap it around, but it's all right.

Ta. This is not gonna be enough.

Oh.

How are you, Julia-Ruth? I'm going to be honest.

There's been a lot of, like, wrong that I've done,

but I feel like there's been a lot of inconsistencies

in your behaviour that hasn't matched.

What do you mean inconsistencies?

In terms of, like, holding my hand and being attentive

and being present in that

because I felt like you were so supportive behind closed doors,

like everything I could have asked for.

You were very affectionate,

like, you're very attentive and present.

I feel like what I struggle with is when...

Maybe it's because the group has said

that you might look like a melt or anything,

so maybe that's why you were feeling different

to how you were behind closed doors.

OK, so straight off the bat, that is not an apology.

Not at all. So Julia-Ruth is leading this conversation

by making a small acknowledgement of where she might have gone wrong,

but then very quickly turning it into an attack on his behaviour.

I think, for me, the moment where...

..like, I shut down was when you packed your bags

and, like, didn't explain what was going on

and walked out the doors,

that for me was...

I don't want to have a repeat of my last relationship,

which was very hot and cold and hot and cold.

It's communication, things like this.

The clicking of the teeth, the... of the lips.

The rolling of the eyes, the like...

Exactly.

It's just a thought. Exactly. That's what I do when I'm thinking.

Your thought is a little bit disrespectful

when I'm trying to get my... Disrespectful? ..point past.

Interesting. Yeah. OK. Continue.

This is just me finally getting things off my chest.

Cos I haven't been able to have a say in this at all.

It's always about you. And this is the problem.

Actually, it's always about you.

You have actually spoken about yourself

at every opportunity that you have. Nah...

And I haven't had a voice and I would like to have a voice.

This weekend was here to be here for you and our relationship to make it work.

For me? Nah, nah... Otherwise, I could have walked out of here

because you wanted to so badly come to this retreat.

And I didn't want to come to this retreat. Oh, is it?

I could have walked out at the party.

It's funny that you lied. You're a liar, bro.

You knew how much anxiety I had coming to this. No, no...

I said, "Divarni, I'm ready to go. I don't want to do this..."

Do you know why I came to this? And you sat...

Do you even know why I even put steak?

I was giving you the chance

to actually be accountable for your actions,

for everything that everyone's called you out for.

Divarni, you could have walked away. And you're saying...

You're trying to put this on me? You're a grown man. You know.

You make your own decisions. You wanted to write leave.

Don't talk to me like I'm a fucking kid.

Don't do that. No, no, no...

It's funny that you're flipping the narrative.

Be an adult and let me speak.

You don't let me finish a sentence to get it across. You just jump in.

No, mate, you're also saying that I'm acting different.

Anyway, it's on camera.

I've tried my best. We're divorced. Fab.

Again. Same shit.

I'm over it. I'm done.

Same fucking shit.

It's cute.

Where else would you have wanted us, Maeve?

Divarni's next to Julia-Ruth. Oh, are they?

Steven? No, I've got one. Thank you.

I would like a red wine, actually.

Cheers, babe.

I was gonna put this on your leg. Oh, thank you.

Have you been up to much?

Um...

I'm now divorced.

Oh. Love that for you.

Oh, no. What's happening?

Yes. Yay!

Oh, that's cute. Yeah. I like that.

Mm.

I mean, I feel like there's lots of niceties going on

around the table at the moment.

Mm.

How are you?

Yeah. I mean, it's never going to be easy-breezy, is it?

For sure.

Zero connection, zero eye contact.

And really Julia-Ruth is taking control,

not just by walking away but by also saying it's over.

Exactly. And, "I've called the marriage off." Yes.

Yeah. You know, they're both equally triggered,

and they're not going to get to any kind of resolution

when they're both feeling so emotional.

No, I feel like there's some on your side.

Are yous ready?

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

I'm not the best at speaking, right?

But you know what it is.

Honestly, I can't tell yous how much I all actually like love yous.

But from the bottom of my heart,

I just want to say thank you for all your support.

The past week's been absolutely shit,

but, like, I wouldn't be here if you guys weren't here.

And that's all I'm saying, because I hate fucking talking,

but anyway... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

To Maeve. To me.

It's been so difficult for Maeve of late,

but she has given her all to this experiment.

She has showed up time after time, even when Joe wasn't there.

And I think it's shown such incredible strength

and a real uprising in her confidence.

She should be proud of herself.

Right...

How are you two doing?

In what context?

Teacher lady. I know what you're looking for, Bec.

What is the context? No, I'll just ask.

You want to know if we've had sex. Have you had sex?

No, we haven't had sex yet,

but I feel like we are definitely more...

Yeah. It's different. ..kissy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's definitely not a friendship

because I'm, like, arsed about her in a different way. Like...

Same! ..behind closed doors, it's like kissing and more like...

Do you know what I mean?

It's a bit more tactile and stuff in bed.

Like, I would never do that with any of my friends.

So I think one thing that we were quite worried about

was that they were stuck in that friend zone,

and what we're seeing here from this conversation

is that they have progressed from that.

TAPPING ON GLASS

Oh.

Um...

I just wanted to say a little speech.

Um, in all honesty,

this has been fun, this has been iconic.

This has been amazing. Made some great friendships.

Made an amazing ex-husband.

Divarni and I are gone now, so, like, good luck.

May the odds be ever in your favour. Keep it real.

OK. Um... It is a game.

Have fun.

Um...

Cheers to the chaos. Hear, hear.

I think this is the heart of

why the group is so frustrated with Julia-Ruth.

You know, they're doing the work, they're showing up.

They're doing the hard yards for their relationships.

And here she is describing the experiment

as though it's just a frivolous game. Yeah.

It's not a game, Julia-Ruth. It's people's lives.

You know you've hurt Divarni, Julia.

You could have really damaged my relationship with my husband.

And you don't have the balls to look...

Look at me in the eye. Look at me in the eye.

I am. No-one's attacking your man or going for your man.

You've made this about you. This isn't about me.

Oh, I made it about me, yeah? I made it about me?

Why are you so worried, babe?

Because I haven't had a conversation with this man.

I'm not worried. So, then why are you addressing me right now?

Because my speech wasn't for you.

Are you ready? No. Are you ready?

Why are you...? I wasn't talking to you. There we go.

There we go. She won't let me finish.

Relax. Your man's there and holding your hand.

Why are you worried? Stop talking for a second.

You stop talking for a second. That wasn't about you.

There she goes again. You're starting.

"Oh, here we are. Here we are, here we are."

He deserves the best. And you haven't given him that.

You've been sat here. You've been sat here all night.

You've been here all night disrespecting him.

Nobody said your name, actually. Don't rise to it.

Don't rise to it. No, I'm not rising to that.

Not rising to that. Go, girl. To that. Yeah. Go, girl.

Nelly! Do you want to let me finish?

I know. It's embarrassing.

I think what's quite disappointing to see, though,

is that Steven is really quiet when Nelly is desperately

kind of needing some kind of reassurance from him.

This is his opportunity to talk up.

This is his opportunity to say,

"Actually, I'm really happy with Nelly.

"And although you're a beautiful lady, this is my woman right here."

And then she would realise she is the 10-10 that he keeps saying she is.

Yes. Yes.

Nobody said anything about names. No-one's erasing you.

Nelly! Nelly! ..anybody in here.

On a serious note, you're not going to get what you want out of this.

Yeah, I'm not. It's not worth...

It's not worth backing him for it.

She's never going to take accountability cos she's embarrassing. Yeah.

I wasn't even attacking you, but fab.

OK, OK.

You just let your insecurities show cos I wasn't actually attacking you.

I didn't say...

There we go, there we go, there we go.

That's a nasty girl. I didn't say your name.

I didn't say your name.

Julia-Ruth. Julia-Ruth.

We don't need to attack people's characters.

We don't need to say that. We don't. Stop.

It's embarrassing. She's embarrassing.

Divarni, is there anything you want to say?

Is there anything you actually want to say?

Because obviously, I know you're... You've been a big part of this.

You're also going to be leaving.

Obviously, I've expressed my feelings to every single person

as to why I came here,

and it's unfortunate it's come to an end, cos I didn't find it.

I'm leaving here with my integrity. Yes, you are.

Yes, you are. Yes, you are. 100%.

Cheers to that. Cheers to you. Cheers to you, Divarni.

And obviously I do appreciate it, and I love all you guys.

I've done wrong in the relationship,

but at the same time, I've got to step back for myself.

I don't think you've done much wrong, mate, if I'm honest.

I don't think you've done much wrong.

Nothing wrong.

Let him speak. This is his time.

Did you say something?

Was there...? Was there something you want to say?

Don't be weird. Don't-don't look at her like that.

Don't be all weird like that.

Don't do that.

Don't... Don't be... Don't start snarling and be weird.

Wow.

It's really an attempt to dominate and to show power.

It's so undermining. Yes. And also, I think she's trying to agitate.

Yes. Yes. She does a very good job at agitating,

and then what that does

is that throws the person off from the topic.

The thing is that in this situation, right,

everyone wants me to take accountability.

Everyone wants me to answer questions,

but no-one actually lets me say more than five words.

Seriously though. OK... No, no, but fucking seriously,

I can't explain the situation or anything

without you guys jumping down my throat.

So what is the fucking point? Because you guys want...

You can now. Go on. What are you accountable for? Shush.

Fucking hell. You want your own answer...

Don't speak to him like that! ..you want your own reply to it.

She is very effectively avoiding what she doesn't want to confront.

You want your own answer and you want your own reply.

And I've sat there and I've taken the punches in the face,

which I deserve, but seriously though,

when I want to talk and say something,

no-one actually lets me say anything.

Go on. We're listening now. Speak to Divarni then.

Just stop waffling. You're just waffling.

I... I ta...

Yeah, but you're going on about something.

He's asking you. This is your opportunity to say.

That was your opportunity to say things.

At the end of the day, it was rude to say shush to Bailey.

Like, he is just telling you to continue to speak.

Go on. Carry on. What are you accountable for?

I don't care, I don't give a fuck

if you guys want to agree or disagree.

Do you take accountability for manipulating him?

That's what... That's what I would like to know.

You would like a certain answer.

I would like to explain how I've gotten to where I am

and take accountability.

Can we just stick to the question? It's just, it's kind of a yes or no.

Do you take accountability for manipulating him?

There's more shit around it. You don't understand me at all.

I would like to... No, you don't need to divulge why you manipulated him.

I'm just wondering

if you do take responsibility for manipulating him?

Can we just... Oi, hang on a minute.

Can we just appreciate the fact that this is a little bit tacky?

I want to know the punchline. I'm waiting for the punch line.

You want your punch line?

No, no... You don't want my punch line. Wait.

Let them speak.

Let who speak?

Everyone.

I'm fucking trying to protect her. I'm trying to protect her.

She's not being bombarded cos no-one said fucking anything.

It is being bombarded cos I can't get anything out.

No-one has asked a question... Shut up, Ash!

The whole guy thing is not working any more.

Fair enough. Same, babe. Honestly. Same. Enough.

Grace. Say your bit, babe. You know what?

I see you. I've heard you.

This is not working any more, this good guy act.

But can I ask...? Julia-Ruth,

I think you've hurt the boy sitting next to you.

Who fucking cares? Pull your pussy up because you're boring as fuck.

Seriously. So now...

You're definitely not boring. Now that you have...

You're definitely not boring, but you're a bitch. You're boring.

You're definitely not boring, but You've got something wrong with you.

You're an evil person.

Listen, listen. Listen, listen!

People she hasn't directly affected, shut the fuck up.

Mate, hold on a minute. You can't keep shouting at everyone else

because she won't speak the truth, right?

Calm, mate. If I'm getting frustrated with people, Ash,

I'm allowed that. Come on.

People she directly affected, pipe the fuck up, by all means.

People she hasn't directly affected, shut the fuck up.

It's as simple as that.

Great call by Nelly.

I mean, great call to hold him accountable.

Yeah. Why was he not triggered when Nelly was under attack?

All right. Done. Done.

You know... You know what you're worth

and that's not... Yeah. You know your value.

Nelly's attacking me because, like, there's cracks in the relationship,

and she's so fucking needy.

Honestly, like, give Steven a fucking breath.

No.

No more. No more, babe.

Babe, I'm gone. So what are you worried about?

Fuck it, I don't care. I have no husband.

I'm packing my bags and I'll see you later.

I got my closure. You know what I mean?

There are definitely a lot of feelings that I have for Julia-Ruth,

but, yeah, that speech that she did was a piece of shit, man.

I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what that was for.

She always wants to look like the boss bitch or the queen,

but really and truly, today was a shitshow on her side.

And, um, I'm not happy that everyone got to see that,

but this is a true reflection of who she is.

Aside from that, the journey has come to an end.

The marriage is done. Finished.

Next time...

It's beyond my expectations.

..as the couples return to face the experts...

I'm getting chills.

THEY LAUGH

It's so good.

..some reap the rewards from their time away.

We're just getting stronger and stronger

and my feelings are massive.

But for others...

I've gone week in, week out trying to make things work.

I've wasted my time.

..turmoil from the retreat...

But what can I do now? The relationship is in the gutter.

You didn't give it a second.

..continues to build.

Like, are you on the verge of leaving?

If I'm not giving you what you need, I need to go.

And Grace...

This has been the hardest week.

..is left questioning her marriage to Ashley.

We were bringing out the very worst in each other,

so I've chosen to...

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