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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:09,680 Buried alive in total darkness with no way to escape. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,420 Invisible forces with demonic intent that control your mind and body. 3 00:00:17,260 --> 00:00:23,380 And ordinary objects with supernatural powers that leave a trail of death 4 00:00:23,380 --> 00:00:24,900 and destruction. 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Fear to universal emotion, human emotion. 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,440 It is often essential to our very survival. 7 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:39,260 Our biological drive to stay safe is designed to help protect us from danger, 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,480 both real and imagined. 9 00:00:42,940 --> 00:00:49,340 We might be startled or even amused at times by loud noises, dark places, or 10 00:00:49,340 --> 00:00:51,020 confined spaces. 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:58,540 But what happens when the stuff of nightmares is not a dream, but instead a 12 00:00:58,540 --> 00:00:59,540 terrifying reality? 13 00:01:02,140 --> 00:01:03,840 That is what we'll try and find out. 14 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,480 All over the world, various cultures practice a period of mourning between 15 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,000 time of a person's death and when they're finally laid to rest. 16 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:29,760 This is the time to pay respects, to process one's loss. 17 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:36,300 And in some cases, to quell the fear that the dearly departed might still be 18 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:41,480 alive and prematurely placed six feet under. 19 00:01:42,380 --> 00:01:48,000 The fear of being buried alive. It was a fairly common fear up until 20th 20 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,060 century. Medical practices meant fewer people were in fact buried alive. 21 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:59,520 It was most common in 18th and 19th century Europe and America. 22 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:06,100 Mostly due to the medical practices and the burial practices at the time. This 23 00:02:06,100 --> 00:02:09,660 was when medical diagnoses could get things wrong. 24 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,240 And people were, in fact, buried alive. And stories of that became 25 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,600 sensationalized. And therefore the panic would spread. 26 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:26,180 In the 19th century, the great fear of being buried alive was partly because 27 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:27,780 this was the age of cholera. 28 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,360 Cholera causes severe diarrhea, which can deplete all the electrolytes in your 29 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,960 body, and in extreme cases can induce a coma. 30 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:41,220 So sometimes people appear dead, and they're actually in this sort of 31 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:46,400 state, and they can come out of it. But if you bury them, then you've buried 32 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,720 them alive, and that is a terrible death. 33 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,960 Historically, the thought of being trapped in a wooden box beneath 34 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,220 pounds of dirt with no possibility of escape was so widespread that this fear 35 00:02:59,220 --> 00:03:00,660 was actually given a name. 36 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,260 It's called taphophobia. 37 00:03:04,580 --> 00:03:08,680 Taphophobia is the idea of simply just the fear of being buried alive. 38 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,500 Edgar Allan Poe, who wrote about premature burial, was... 39 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,300 terrified of being buried alive. 40 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Frederick Chopin, the composer, wanted to be stabbed in the heart and bled out 41 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,780 to make sure that he was dead when doctors believed that he was. 42 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,660 And even George Washington was so afraid of being buried alive that he had 43 00:03:27,660 --> 00:03:32,440 written in his will that his body had to remain in bed for three days after they 44 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,720 thought he was dead to make sure that he didn't come back. 45 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:43,340 It was estimated by the 1890s that some 2 % of people being 46 00:03:43,340 --> 00:03:44,980 buried were buried alive. 47 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Now, this is a gross exaggeration, no doubt, but it was believed at the time, 48 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,720 enough so that organizations like the London Association for the Prevention of 49 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,060 Premature Burial was founded in 1896. 50 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,940 Then they lobbied Parliament for greater diligence on the part of doctors to 51 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:06,680 make sure that doctors were verifying death. 52 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Despite doctors' best efforts, it was simply difficult at the time to 53 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,080 whether a person was alive or dead. 54 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,779 And so in order to ease people's minds, authorities in Europe were forced to 55 00:04:20,779 --> 00:04:22,360 take drastic measures. 56 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,060 Vienna, Austria. 57 00:04:27,940 --> 00:04:33,520 Within this storied city lies the Vienna Central Cemetery, the second largest 58 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,000 cemetery in the entire world. 59 00:04:35,470 --> 00:04:39,390 In the heart of the cemetery stands a small building that today houses a 60 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:45,530 But in the 19th century, it was referred to as a lichen house. 61 00:04:46,750 --> 00:04:53,550 The lichen house was a kind of mortuary where corpses were kept for a 62 00:04:53,550 --> 00:04:57,910 period, typically about three days, and watched over by attendants to make sure 63 00:04:57,910 --> 00:05:03,450 that a person was truly dead and wouldn't be buried alive in a state of 64 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:04,450 catalepsy. 65 00:05:05,190 --> 00:05:09,730 Those who worked at the Leichenhaus, the undertakers mainly, could ensure that 66 00:05:09,730 --> 00:05:10,970 people are not being buried alive. 67 00:05:11,230 --> 00:05:15,550 They had several measures. They could use, for example, a heart -step knife. 68 00:05:16,590 --> 00:05:20,570 And there was basically a treatment that you could order by doctors. And then 69 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:26,710 one doctor had the possibility, the option, and the privilege to step the 70 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:29,890 into your heart to make sure that you're not going to be buried alive. 71 00:05:31,530 --> 00:05:35,210 In modern times, it may sound a little disturbing to hear that doctors once 72 00:05:35,210 --> 00:05:39,530 stabbed their patients in order to determine whether they were alive or 73 00:05:39,870 --> 00:05:45,050 But the truth is, the hysteria about being buried alive was so prevalent that 74 00:05:45,050 --> 00:05:49,190 entire industry sprang up to help calm such fears by producing bizarre 75 00:05:49,190 --> 00:05:52,970 contraptions that were known as safety coffins. 76 00:05:54,090 --> 00:05:58,110 If you were afraid of being buried alive, the solution was the safety 77 00:05:58,410 --> 00:06:04,250 And this began very simply with a bell tied to a string that went down under 78 00:06:04,250 --> 00:06:08,090 earth into the coffin. And if you were buried alive and you woke up in a 79 00:06:08,210 --> 00:06:11,830 you could pull that string, the bell would ring, and hopefully somebody would 80 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:13,510 hear it and come dig you out. 81 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:17,190 And this tradition is where we get the expression, saved by the bell. 82 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:22,960 If you had more money, safety coffins could get more elaborate. They could add 83 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,859 air tubes. 84 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:28,100 They could add windows so you would have some lights inside the coffin. 85 00:06:28,420 --> 00:06:32,560 And there were even cases of people buried with a key in their pocket so 86 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,600 could unlock the casket from the inside if this happened. 87 00:06:36,910 --> 00:06:41,610 There were loads of patents taken out for these safety coffins, and they would 88 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:45,490 include devices like little flags that could be raised. 89 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:50,270 Sometimes safety coffins included food or water. They would have breathing 90 00:06:50,270 --> 00:06:52,790 tubes. They might even include periscopes. 91 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:59,450 One of the best -known ones really belonged to a doctor named Timothy Clark 92 00:06:59,450 --> 00:07:03,570 Vermont. He came up with his own safety coffin device. 93 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,780 He had a set of stone stairs installed next to his grave that could be opened 94 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:14,980 by a concrete block that was sitting beside it. That way, anyone could get 95 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:17,060 to rescue him if he needed to be rescued. 96 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,460 But the real kicker to the whole thing was that he had a glass window installed 97 00:07:23,460 --> 00:07:27,240 directly over his face, set into the stone. 98 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,540 However, he died in 1893, and the doctors did not make a mistake. He 99 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:33,540 dead. 100 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,780 Safety coffins may seem like a quaint fad from a bygone era that has no 101 00:07:38,780 --> 00:07:40,420 relevance in our world today. 102 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,760 But believe it or not, there have been some recent cases in which people appear 103 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,480 to have been mistakenly buried alive. 104 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:56,980 Being buried alive is very, very rare, at least in our own time, but it does 105 00:07:56,980 --> 00:07:58,440 still occasionally happen. 106 00:07:58,970 --> 00:08:04,430 As recently as 2018, there was a case in Brazil where a woman woke up in her 107 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:08,070 grave and is thought to have survived for 11 days there. 108 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:14,210 Being buried alive doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to, but if you 109 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:17,510 think about it, waking up in a coffin would be probably one of the most 110 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:19,410 terrifying things that could ever happen to you. 111 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:27,500 The very idea that a small mistake due to negligence or misdiagnosis Could 112 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:28,720 one to be buried alive? 113 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,980 Is a terrifying thought. 114 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,440 But it's often what we can't see that instills fear the most. 115 00:08:36,299 --> 00:08:42,200 Like in the case of an ancient predator who still lurks beneath the ocean's 116 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,660 surface with a frightening history of hunting for human flesh. 117 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,280 Beach Haven, New Jersey, July 1st, 1960. 118 00:08:57,460 --> 00:09:02,320 25 -year -old Charles Van Sant is swimming in the brisk Atlantic waters 119 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,560 coast of this resort community when he's suddenly attacked by a massive shark. 120 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:15,840 Lifeguards pull Van Sant from the water and see that his left thigh has been 121 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,580 stripped of its flesh by a massive set of razor -sharp jaws. 122 00:09:21,390 --> 00:09:24,570 The story is that they had to almost wrestle him away from the shark. They 123 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:26,810 pulled him ashore with the shark following him still. 124 00:09:27,230 --> 00:09:31,230 His father, who was a doctor, operated on him or tried to save his life, but he 125 00:09:31,230 --> 00:09:37,530 died of a flesh wound to a bite on his thigh, actually, and lots of blood. 126 00:09:39,290 --> 00:09:44,510 The gory death of Charles Van Zandt was the first recorded fatal shark attack in 127 00:09:44,510 --> 00:09:45,510 U .S. history. 128 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:52,470 And then, on July 6th, A mere five days after Van Sant was killed, 129 00:09:52,690 --> 00:09:56,070 there was another attack along the Jersey Shore. 130 00:09:57,690 --> 00:10:04,230 Charles Bruder, who's a 27 -year -old Swiss native who was in the Army, went 131 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:10,110 a swim and 1 ,200 feet out in the middle of the day was attacked and bitten by 132 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:12,750 what appeared to be about an eight or nine foot great white shark. 133 00:10:13,070 --> 00:10:15,610 It severed his legs and a part of his torso. 134 00:10:16,250 --> 00:10:18,250 By the time the lifeguards got out there, 135 00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:21,080 There was hardly anything to lift into the boat. 136 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:27,360 This second deadly attack was widely reported in newspapers across the 137 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,320 and set off a nationwide panic. 138 00:10:31,580 --> 00:10:35,580 Many people believed it was no longer safe to swim in the ocean off the coast 139 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:36,580 New Jersey. 140 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,120 And several beaches were closed by the authorities. 141 00:10:41,020 --> 00:10:45,420 The public reaction was hysterical. There were calls all the way up to 142 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:46,420 Wilson. 143 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:51,260 Woodrow Wilson had a cabinet meeting and talked to the early men who founded the 144 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:53,800 Coast Guard about eradicating all the sharks on the East Coast. 145 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:58,920 Bounties were given by towns and cities, and anybody that could kill any shark 146 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,620 could get $100. 147 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:07,100 You had fishermen going out catching and killing sharks, and it wasn't just in 148 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:10,820 New Jersey. It was all up and down the eastern seaboard. 149 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:18,080 and even infiltrated into the coastal states, Texas, Louisiana, and 150 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,660 as far as the Pacific coast of North America. 151 00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:27,780 Less than one week after Charles Bruder was killed, on July 12th, three more 152 00:11:27,780 --> 00:11:33,180 people were attacked by what many witnesses claimed was an eight - or nine 153 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:34,180 shark. 154 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,340 Curiously, all five of these incidents took place along a 50 -mile stretch off 155 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:40,500 the coast of New Jersey. 156 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,860 Because of their proximity and the similarities between eyewitness 157 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,840 many began to wonder whether the horrific attacks could have been the 158 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,220 single killer shark. 159 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,360 The New Jersey attacks are so strange because sharks don't kill people with 160 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,620 kind of regularity and nobody witnesses it with any kind of regularity when it 161 00:12:02,620 --> 00:12:07,760 happens. But the concept of a rogue shark that kills or injures one person. 162 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:11,620 then that gets a taste for human flesh and goes after another like a serial 163 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:15,660 killer. The Jersey Shore may be the best evidence we have that that's ever 164 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:22,320 happened. On July 14, 1916, two weeks after the first fatal attack, a 165 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,580 taxidermist named Michael Schlaeser caught a 7 1⁄2 -foot, 325 -pound great 166 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:31,800 shark off the northern end of the Jersey Shore. 167 00:12:33,710 --> 00:12:37,790 After cutting open its stomach, authorities found what appeared to be 168 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:39,770 digested human remains. 169 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:46,790 There are many who believe that this great white shark was responsible for 170 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:50,510 five attacks that took place, four of which were fatal. 171 00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:56,370 Fatal shark attacks on humans are seldom predatory for feeding. 172 00:12:56,790 --> 00:13:02,130 So what was going on that would cause a series of five attacks over a... 173 00:13:02,330 --> 00:13:05,130 11 -day period, what was behind all of this? 174 00:13:06,190 --> 00:13:07,610 People panicked. 175 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:10,110 No one wanted to go in the ocean. 176 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:15,230 So its effect on individuals, citizens, was enormous. 177 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:21,650 And it was something that, to this day, still has an effect on us. 178 00:13:22,630 --> 00:13:27,750 The 1916 Jersey Shore attacks helped to popularize the notion of sharks as 179 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:29,250 deadly man -eaters. 180 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:35,100 More than 50 years later, the killings inspired the 1974 novel Jaws by Peter 181 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:39,480 Benchley, which became the basis of the blockbuster film made by Steven 182 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,500 Spielberg that terrorized generations of beachgoers. 183 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,960 But despite their bad reputation, the truth is that sharks rarely kill humans. 184 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:57,200 According to statistics gathered by the International Shark Attack File, on 185 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,200 average, 186 00:13:58,650 --> 00:14:02,250 There are only five fatal shark attacks worldwide per year. 187 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:09,130 So why does the belief persist that some sharks are a serious threat to humans? 188 00:14:12,610 --> 00:14:19,430 Sharks, unsurprisingly, have terrified people forever because sharks 189 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:22,830 live an enormous amount of their life out of sight, unlike... 190 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:24,570 terrestrial species that we can see. 191 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:28,670 Sharks live underwater, and the only time that we really interact with sharks 192 00:14:28,670 --> 00:14:31,750 when they come to the surface, and that tends to be in antagonistic 193 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:33,050 circumstances with people. 194 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:39,050 Traditional island cultures have had multiple deities that have shark 195 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:44,670 appearance, and that comes from an inherent fear that we are at risk of 196 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:47,290 They have this power of life or death over us. 197 00:14:49,390 --> 00:14:51,010 Sharks are apex predators. 198 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:55,980 The idea that sharks can be celebrated in their culture might seem a bit odd. 199 00:14:56,060 --> 00:14:57,300 After all, they do kill people. 200 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:01,440 But there's a couple things to consider. One is that they are recognized as apex 201 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,360 predators, and this is something that people often aspire to. Also, the idea 202 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,020 that these are apex predators, and you'd better understand them. 203 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:15,180 Over the years, sharks, especially white sharks, have been portrayed as killers. 204 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,580 Unfortunately, people are killed from time to time. 205 00:15:19,370 --> 00:15:25,110 It has been postulated that white sharks hunting have similarities into the 206 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:27,330 tactics utilized by serial killers. 207 00:15:28,810 --> 00:15:33,530 Serial killers use what is referred to as an anchor point, which is where they 208 00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:37,130 will sit and watch and pick their victim. 209 00:15:38,010 --> 00:15:39,810 White sharks do the same thing. 210 00:15:40,390 --> 00:15:46,030 White sharks like to hunt stealth, where the intended victim can't see them. 211 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,560 A lot of people often look at sharks and think that there's nothing going on. 212 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:56,840 But great whites are intelligent animals. We've watched great whites 213 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,440 fields. And you'll find the older great whites will pick out specific 214 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,560 individuals, usually young ones. 215 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:11,860 It's very methodical. So it is 100 % possible that some sharks 216 00:16:11,860 --> 00:16:13,140 like the taste of people. 217 00:16:14,670 --> 00:16:20,310 Are there certain sharks that specifically and methodically hunt 218 00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:24,110 Some marine biologists have suggested it's possible. 219 00:16:24,830 --> 00:16:29,850 But if this theory is true, then what's even more disturbing is that a killer 220 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:34,510 shark may keep stalking people for a very long, long time. 221 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:40,850 Great white can live to be 80 plus years old. There's some accounts of specimens 222 00:16:40,850 --> 00:16:41,850 being over 100. 223 00:16:42,890 --> 00:16:47,490 They study their subject just like a serial killer. They learn from their 224 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:49,410 mistakes just like a serial killer. 225 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:51,190 That's terrifying. 226 00:16:53,250 --> 00:16:58,290 Coming face to face with a predator like a great white shark would be terrifying 227 00:16:58,290 --> 00:16:59,290 to say the least. 228 00:17:00,270 --> 00:17:04,770 Just imagining an encounter with a dangerous creature can trigger our 229 00:17:04,770 --> 00:17:07,950 fear of being overtaken by something much stronger than us. 230 00:17:08,609 --> 00:17:11,650 Like in the case of a powerful presence. 231 00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:16,490 They can possess the human soul. 232 00:17:20,109 --> 00:17:22,190 Bavaria, West Germany, 1973. 233 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:31,610 Annalise Michel, a 20 -year -old student at the University of Würzburg, claims 234 00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:38,350 that she's hearing disembodied voices and seeing visions of 235 00:17:38,350 --> 00:17:39,350 the devil. 236 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,180 Before long, her family comes to believe that Annalise suffers from a condition 237 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:46,580 that defies understanding. 238 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Demonic possession. 239 00:17:52,420 --> 00:17:58,180 Annalise Mikkel was indeed tormented by a possessing something. 240 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,520 She spoke in a horrendously growly voice. 241 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:15,470 Her eyes seemed to go black. 242 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:22,130 And she had a great aversion to holy statues, which are a great many in the 243 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:25,190 house, because they were very high as Catholics. 244 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:32,330 And she was taken to a doctor who said she might be epileptic. 245 00:18:32,930 --> 00:18:36,830 And she was taken to a psychiatrist. 246 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Nothing changed in her life. In fact, she was getting worse and worse. 247 00:18:43,300 --> 00:18:46,620 Her family believed from the beginning she was possessed. 248 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,820 The Catholic Church accepted that framework and engaged in the exorcism. 249 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,240 Ultimately, Anneliese McKell died of starvation and dehydration over the 250 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,440 of numerous exorcisms. 251 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,580 This was a case where that belief directly led to her death. 252 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,340 What we cannot say for certain is what was really... 253 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,440 going on. I can't say that she for sure was not possessed or for sure was. 254 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:19,480 The story of Annalise Miquel is perhaps the best known case of an alleged 255 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,060 demonic possession. 256 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,680 But what happened to her? 257 00:19:25,180 --> 00:19:27,760 Was she actually possessed by demons? 258 00:19:29,060 --> 00:19:33,560 And if so, how does one identify when a person's mind and body have been taken 259 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,060 over by Satan? 260 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,580 During the course of my career, I've witnessed a number of cases of 261 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:47,420 in my life, but I definitely started as a skeptic. I certainly never thought I 262 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:53,900 would see anything sort of paranormal or diabolic. 263 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:01,600 A priest, who I guess knew I was Catholic, I don't exactly know how he 264 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,140 name, but he came to my office when I was at Cornell Medical College. 265 00:20:06,670 --> 00:20:12,790 And he said, Dr. Gallagher, I'd like you to evaluate someone 266 00:20:12,790 --> 00:20:17,110 for me who I think has a demonic attack. 267 00:20:18,190 --> 00:20:24,490 And I said, well, with all due respect, Father, you know, I'm an academic 268 00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:28,990 psychiatrist and I'm pretty skeptical of those sort of things. And I remember 269 00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:32,850 what he said to me. He said, you're the perfect man for the job because we want 270 00:20:32,850 --> 00:20:34,370 somebody who's skeptical. 271 00:20:35,310 --> 00:20:40,210 Of course, in the years since, you know, 25 plus years, I've seen so much that 272 00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:42,470 I'm not a skeptic anymore. 273 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:50,410 There are very strict criteria which clearly have to be present 274 00:20:50,410 --> 00:20:55,390 to distinguish the case from a psychiatric or a medical disorder. 275 00:20:56,110 --> 00:21:02,830 You have to see something that is inexplicable in terms of purely 276 00:21:02,830 --> 00:21:03,830 science. 277 00:21:04,140 --> 00:21:11,140 Things that could not possibly manifest in somebody who doesn't have a diabolic 278 00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:12,140 attack. 279 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:19,800 The first case sent to me was a woman who claimed that she would be lying in 280 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,760 bed and she would be pummeled by invisible forces. 281 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:29,380 She and her husband were convinced. 282 00:21:30,270 --> 00:21:33,710 that she was attacked by demons. 283 00:21:35,450 --> 00:21:40,310 So we did a number of medical tests on her because she had bruises all over her 284 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:41,310 body. 285 00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:47,030 And at the end of my evaluation, since she was a very sane, lovely woman, 286 00:21:47,210 --> 00:21:53,930 I said to the priest, look, this doesn't seem like a medical or psychiatric 287 00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:55,790 case. It doesn't seem possible. 288 00:21:56,850 --> 00:21:58,170 Mysterious bruises. 289 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,120 inflicted by invisible forces. 290 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,520 While that may sound like something out of a Hollywood horror movie, the truth 291 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,980 is that the counts of possession have been recorded for thousands of years. 292 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:17,300 Any scholar can tell you cases of demonic possession go all the way back 293 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:24,100 Bible, when Jesus had to cast the demon out of a man into a herd of swine, who 294 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:27,440 then ran off of a cliff and into the water. Very famous story in the Bible. 295 00:22:28,090 --> 00:22:31,410 And stories of demonic possession, they're not confined to Christianity. 296 00:22:33,490 --> 00:22:37,970 The idea of possession is inherently tied to the idea of Satan and demons, 297 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:41,770 it's an attempt by Satan to take over your personality, to ultimately control 298 00:22:41,770 --> 00:22:42,770 you. 299 00:22:43,210 --> 00:22:46,930 Satan's end game, according to the Bible, is to draw as many people away 300 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:52,590 Christ as possible. So his end game is to get as many people to move from God 301 00:22:52,590 --> 00:22:54,910 him. So his ultimate role is as a tempter. 302 00:22:57,930 --> 00:23:02,290 The film The Exorcist is believed to have really brought attention to the 303 00:23:02,290 --> 00:23:06,350 of possession, but it's not that those ideas started with The Exorcist. Those 304 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:08,770 ideas spread with The Exorcist. 305 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:13,050 The Exorcist was actually based on a real case. 306 00:23:13,950 --> 00:23:17,290 It was a 12 -year -old boy who was possessed, not a girl. 307 00:23:18,550 --> 00:23:19,830 How did he get possessed? 308 00:23:20,410 --> 00:23:22,270 Using a Ouija board for months. 309 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:27,150 Start doing something occult. That creates an inner vulnerability to evil. 310 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,680 You're using magic that does not come from the Lord. You might not know this, 311 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,600 but you're actually invoking the powers of Satan, whether you believe it or not. 312 00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:44,780 Most people who are possessed, in a sense, they've invited it in, wittingly 313 00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:45,780 unwittingly. 314 00:23:46,220 --> 00:23:53,060 Possession is the most dramatic attack of a demon upon a human being. 315 00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:58,900 And in a way, spiritual warfare should be a concern of everybody. 316 00:24:00,070 --> 00:24:06,470 that we're all sort of in a battle in our own souls between goodness and evil. 317 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:18,090 It's frightening to think that a person can be controlled by an evil entity. 318 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:23,010 And while it's difficult to determine if possession is a spiritual or a 319 00:24:23,010 --> 00:24:26,210 psychological phenomenon, and perhaps even more terrifying, 320 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:33,700 It's the biological aberration that can turn the deceased into the walking dead. 321 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Lestera, Haiti, 1980. 322 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:44,940 In this small village, Angelina Narcisse was going about her day when she was 323 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:46,740 approached by a man claiming to be her brother, 324 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,060 Clairvius. It may sound like a heartwarming tale of reunion, but there 325 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:53,220 one problem. 326 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:58,600 Clairvius Narcisse had been dead and buried for nearly 20 years. 327 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,080 Clairvius was a Haitian man born in 1922. 328 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:09,000 In the year 1962, he went to a hospital. 329 00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:14,940 His symptoms had been a severe fever, fatigue, and he'd been coughing up 330 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:20,940 His heart stopped, and he stopped breathing, and was declared dead and 331 00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:28,420 Twenty years later, a man claiming to be Clairvius showed up at his village and 332 00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:29,840 approached his family. 333 00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:36,560 In many respects, his story did check out. He bared a physical 334 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:42,200 resemblance to the deceased. He went by a nickname that was only known to him 335 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480 and his sister when they were very little kids. 336 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,120 And so he was able to relate certain details of... 337 00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:52,020 his former life that seemed to add up. 338 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,680 But if Clairvius Narcisse died and was buried, then how on earth was he alive 339 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,560 and able to track down his sister almost 20 years later? 340 00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:09,160 Well, according to Clairvius, the reason he was not lying dead in his grave was 341 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,400 that a voodoo priest had transformed him into a zombie. 342 00:26:15,180 --> 00:26:20,400 In Haiti, a zombie is an individual who's had their soul stolen by sorcery, 343 00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:26,480 causing them to be sort of flung into a perpetual place of purgatory through 344 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,000 this incredible transition of death, rebirth, and return to the living, 345 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:36,360 induced by the folk poison known as a poud zombie. 346 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:43,680 It was a plethora of ingredients, including various plants and the toxin 347 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:49,060 fish. It selectively blocks sodium channels and nerves, bringing on 348 00:26:49,060 --> 00:26:50,980 until the moment of death. 349 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,560 And yet critically, if you get through that, you have nothing to worry about. 350 00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:04,240 This fascinating poison had made people appear to be dead. 351 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:11,140 In Haitian folklore specifically, the zombie is not a villain but a victim. 352 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,500 In these cases... 353 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,600 people are turned into zombies and forced to work on sugar cane plantations 354 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,120 Haiti, and also in the Caribbean, but primarily Haiti. 355 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:27,160 And this has been a legend going back many, many years, centuries, in some 356 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,720 cases, certainly since the slave trade. 357 00:27:29,260 --> 00:27:34,080 And it was all considered to be just sort of a legend until 1980, when 358 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Narcisse emerged. 359 00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:40,180 He told the story, it made huge news, as you can imagine, because this was a 360 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:44,030 first. personal account of somebody who was a former zombie, right? So this is 361 00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:45,030 wild. This is crazy. 362 00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:51,890 According to Clairvius, he had been paralyzed by a voodoo priest. 363 00:27:52,110 --> 00:27:58,990 This was a result of being drugged, and this paste mixture that he 364 00:27:58,990 --> 00:28:03,430 was forced to consume kept him in this death -like toper. 365 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:07,870 Narcisse is buried, and... 366 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:14,020 The priest then dug him up from his grave and enslaved him on a sugar cane 367 00:28:14,020 --> 00:28:15,900 plantation for 20 years. 368 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,520 From the Haitian point of view, the fate of a zombie is said to become an 369 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,520 indentured servant. 370 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:29,760 And losing your soul, losing your identity, your personal autonomy, 371 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,680 make this a fate worse than death. 372 00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:38,020 The story of Clairvius Narcissus being buried and then revived as an undead 373 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:40,820 zombie made headlines around the world. 374 00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:47,200 Numerous experts investigated the case in hopes of shedding light on what 375 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,380 exactly took place. 376 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:54,820 The first question on everyone's mind was whether Clairvius had only appeared 377 00:28:54,820 --> 00:29:01,320 be dead because he was drugged, or if there was some truth to the idea that he 378 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,420 actually died. 379 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:06,770 and then was revived by the power of voodoo. 380 00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:13,070 What made the case of Narcisse unique was one single thing. He had been 381 00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:19,050 pronounced dead in an American -directed philanthropic institution, the 382 00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:20,050 Schweitzer Hospital. 383 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:27,210 And his family members had witnessed the death and authenticated it at the time. 384 00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:34,880 So all these lines of evidence led scientists to go public in the 1980s, 385 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,940 saying they felt they had found the first medically verifiable instance of 386 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:40,940 zombification. 387 00:29:42,260 --> 00:29:48,260 The doctors who had initially declared Narcisse dead were no longer at the 388 00:29:48,260 --> 00:29:50,620 hospital 20 years later when he returned. 389 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,780 However, many doctors looked into his case and did tests and proved that it 390 00:29:56,780 --> 00:29:57,780 in fact him. 391 00:29:58,410 --> 00:30:03,510 why the premature diagnosis and why he was buried prematurely is unknown. 392 00:30:04,450 --> 00:30:07,930 And where he was for 20 years is unknown. 393 00:30:08,130 --> 00:30:10,830 But there are photos of him sitting on his own gravestone. 394 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:18,870 There are many theories as to what caused Clairvius Narcisse to be declared 395 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:20,950 and then seemingly brought back to life. 396 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,170 Ultimately, what happened to him remains a mystery. 397 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:27,330 But many Haitians are convinced. 398 00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:31,810 the Clavius did, in fact, rise from the grave. 399 00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:39,470 And for some, his story is a reminder that the distinction between the living 400 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:43,810 and the dead may not be as clear -cut as we commonly think. 401 00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:50,250 When we imagine zombies in the 21st century, we tend to imagine the dead 402 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:55,810 from the grave to prey upon the living. That is not the case in Haitian voodoo 403 00:30:55,810 --> 00:30:56,810 practices. 404 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,700 Zombification in voodoo was not something that was done to the dead. It 405 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:02,940 something that was done to the living. 406 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,420 It was turning the living into a fugue -like state, a death -like state. 407 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,320 But they were not reanimated corpses. 408 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,300 Narcisse never doubted that he'd become a zombie. 409 00:31:16,780 --> 00:31:21,980 In Haiti, a zombie is a complete pariah who walks the edge between life and 410 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:24,840 death and will do so for the rest of their existence. 411 00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:32,110 And so this idea that a person could be brought back to life 412 00:31:32,110 --> 00:31:36,650 fills all of us with mystery and trepidation and dread. 413 00:31:37,950 --> 00:31:42,470 The prospect that any of us could become a reanimated husk of our former selves 414 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:43,970 is a haunting image. 415 00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:49,950 But just how one joins the ranks of the walking dead is debatable. 416 00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:53,230 Is it a biological response? 417 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,620 A psychological phenomenon? 418 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,700 Or could there really be something to the power of a deadly curse? 419 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,040 Cincinnati, Ohio. 420 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,400 Just outside the city, on a normal suburban street, in an ordinary 421 00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:18,500 is the home of Greg and Dana Newkirk. 422 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,180 From the outside, their home is not much different from any other house on the 423 00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:29,730 block. Get some fork action going on. But inside, it contains something 424 00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:31,510 quite extraordinary. 425 00:32:32,290 --> 00:32:37,050 Because there is a room in the basement that is filled with a collection of 426 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:43,070 strange objects sent by people from all over the world that are believed to be 427 00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:44,490 cursed. 428 00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:51,530 Greg and I lead normal lives, and we go about our life the same way that 429 00:32:51,530 --> 00:32:52,530 everyone else does. 430 00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:56,510 We just happened to be caretakers for very strange objects. 431 00:32:57,330 --> 00:33:01,250 The way that we got started collecting cursed objects was complete accident. 432 00:33:01,970 --> 00:33:04,650 It wasn't something that we had set out to do. 433 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:07,790 Never would have imagined myself doing this. 434 00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:10,930 We were just interested in general weirdness. 435 00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:19,510 My wife and I investigate all manner of high strangeness, and we were both very 436 00:33:19,510 --> 00:33:21,910 interested in the idea of cursed objects. 437 00:33:22,770 --> 00:33:26,950 We slowly gained a reputation as being particularly good people for this. 438 00:33:27,530 --> 00:33:32,250 And so anytime anyone had a problem with an artifact, they would come to us and 439 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,890 say, I don't know what to do with this. This thing is affecting my life. 440 00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:39,390 Will you just take it off my hands? It'd be easier to just give it to you and 441 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:40,309 let you deal with it. 442 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:43,290 So we built up this collection of very bizarre things. 443 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,490 Visitors to the Newkirk's home are given ample warning. 444 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:52,420 that the basement is filled with objects that are cursed. 445 00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:59,960 We have a lot of haunted robes. But curiously, every day, the new curts 446 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:04,460 requests from people who are eager to view their cursed collection. 447 00:34:05,220 --> 00:34:09,639 You'd think with cursed objects you'd want to avoid them, but there is a draw 448 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:10,639 them. 449 00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:13,940 When an object is said to be cursed, another word you could use is special. 450 00:34:14,350 --> 00:34:18,350 It's special. If this chair is cursed, it's different from every other chair in 451 00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:19,149 the world. 452 00:34:19,150 --> 00:34:22,510 And that makes it unique, that makes it interesting, and that draws our 453 00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:26,270 attention every single time. And the fact that that specialness is that it 454 00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:30,210 people, that appeals to a certain macabre streak that we all have as human 455 00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:31,210 beings. 456 00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:36,630 People think of cursed objects as being kind of fun and spooky. 457 00:34:37,610 --> 00:34:42,530 But working with them, it feels a lot less about that and a lot more about 458 00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:47,030 kind of heavy responsibility to keep some of these objects with us under lock 459 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:52,130 and key and maybe out of the wrong hand and maybe in a place that's safer not 460 00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:54,030 only for everyone else but for them. 461 00:34:55,690 --> 00:34:59,430 The Newkirk's collection includes several objects that are considered to 462 00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:03,590 the power to inflict harm on anyone who comes near them. 463 00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:07,800 This is the cursed deer skull. 464 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,820 We drove down to Nashville to pick up from a woman who saw this in an antique 465 00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:18,700 store and took it back to her office, and almost immediately her employees 466 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:24,140 started getting sick. One of her employees was hit by a car, and then the 467 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:28,100 that this was hanging on actually fell down and took half of the building with 468 00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,100 it. 469 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,230 There are certain objects specifically in our museum that... Without people 470 00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:39,450 knowing why they feel the way that they feel, they will definitely have heart 471 00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:40,490 palpitations, anxiety. 472 00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:46,410 We've had people almost faint. We've had people throw up. We've had people dry 473 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:47,410 heave. 474 00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:51,310 People have very visceral physical reactions to being around some of the 475 00:35:51,310 --> 00:35:52,310 objects. 476 00:35:55,170 --> 00:36:00,770 Among the accursed objects in the new Kirk's collection is a deadly ring that 477 00:36:00,770 --> 00:36:02,490 claimed to kill anyone who wears it. 478 00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:07,200 A Bible used during a failed exorcism. 479 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:12,240 And a doll that is believed to spread illness wherever it goes. 480 00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:18,340 But of all the cursed objects the Newkirks have come across, there is one 481 00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:22,060 is so harrowing, they refuse to keep it in their collection. 482 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,260 It is an unsettling wooden effigy known as the Chrome. 483 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:32,260 The Chrome really is the definition of kind of a cursed object. 484 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,460 It is a carved statue of a woman. 485 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,500 Someone at some point in time took this object and attached the noose and the 486 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:42,500 nails. 487 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:48,220 It was given to us by some hikers who found it in the Catskills off the beaten 488 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:49,460 path in a cave. 489 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,760 They took it home and initially started to experience really frightening things. 490 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,220 Their animals were behaving strangely. They were finding wet footprints on the 491 00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:02,440 ground, and they didn't know what to do. 492 00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:08,390 Someone who we had worked with previously put them in contact with us, 493 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:12,490 having some communication with them, they sent the crone to us. 494 00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:18,550 People who would get near the crone, they would be just overwhelmed with 495 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:19,550 anxiety. 496 00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:24,910 This guy came all the way from Canada to come and see the crone. 497 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:30,630 He begged us to take it out of the box, almost immediately. 498 00:37:32,049 --> 00:37:35,610 His eyes roll up in the back of his head, and he starts to bleed from his 499 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:41,130 And he has a violent seizure, and he has to be taken out by the paramedics. 500 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:44,190 And that's when Dana and I looked at each other, and we said, we have to do 501 00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:45,190 something about this. 502 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:52,250 The Catskill Mountains, October 2018. 503 00:37:54,110 --> 00:37:58,970 After a string of frightening incidents, Greg and Dana Newkirk are convinced 504 00:37:58,970 --> 00:38:05,050 that a strange object in their possession known as the crone is cursed. 505 00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:11,930 So they've traveled to this remote region of upstate New York to free 506 00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:13,990 of the evil object. 507 00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:20,510 The crone is one of the objects that does fall into that very small category 508 00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:22,990 objects that we didn't feel like we could handle. 509 00:38:24,270 --> 00:38:28,670 It got to a point where the crone was just too dangerous for even us to take 510 00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:29,589 care of. 511 00:38:29,590 --> 00:38:34,890 And what we wanted to do was bring her back to the Catskills, which is where 512 00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:36,130 she's from. 513 00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:44,310 To remove the crone's curse, the Newkirch plan was to return to the area 514 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:50,030 it was originally found by two hikers many years before, at which point they 515 00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:53,090 would remove the nails embedded in the crone. 516 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,860 in a cleansing ritual. 517 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,600 We wanted to bring her back, and every time a nail was pulled out, the 518 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,880 was that we were pulling that curse out of the object. 519 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:13,440 We hiked into the woods for miles, and I set up a circle. 520 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,800 The idea of setting up a circle was basically just to create an energetic 521 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,220 for containing this ritual. 522 00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:28,530 The whole time we were doing this, we were hearing footsteps and strange 523 00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:30,510 that weren't animals around our circle. 524 00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:34,470 But we couldn't see anything. 525 00:39:36,430 --> 00:39:41,710 We were absolutely terrified. But we start performing the ritual. I pull the 526 00:39:41,710 --> 00:39:42,649 nails out. 527 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:49,070 Soon as that happens, we feel this almost electric pop in the air. 528 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:54,930 When we were done, every coyote on the mountain just started howling. 529 00:39:55,870 --> 00:40:00,730 And the ritual was finished, and what we were looking at was just a block of 530 00:40:00,730 --> 00:40:05,210 wood. And we just kind of knew that we had done what we went there to do. 531 00:40:07,630 --> 00:40:11,750 Scholars of religion have long known the power of ritual, that when a group of 532 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:15,550 people get together and engage in the same set of actions, believing that 533 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:19,470 there's a supernatural origin behind them, that brings people together. 534 00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:25,840 And so special movements that you need to go through, special sayings or songs 535 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,840 that you need to do. 536 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:34,320 It's incredibly powerful phenomena that can help rid of the devil or whatever 537 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,140 other force has cursed us. 538 00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:42,980 Is it possible that ritually cleansing the crown removed its curse? 539 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,080 Perhaps. 540 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,720 But of course, it all depends on. 541 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,800 Whether you believe curses are real in the first place. 542 00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:56,560 Whether you believe in cursed objects or don't believe in cursed objects, they 543 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,440 can still have a power over you. 544 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:04,900 What that power is, to what extent that is, how it kind of comes out, 545 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,100 who knows? 546 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,980 But they're still powerful objects, no matter how you look at it. 547 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:17,390 For people who don't believe in curses, what I would say is, Keep believing 548 00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:18,390 they're not real. 549 00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:21,090 That's the best defense you have against a curse. 550 00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:23,330 To not feed it. 551 00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:27,470 So, what do you think? 552 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:31,230 Is there good reason we should take heed of our primal fears? 553 00:41:32,050 --> 00:41:37,850 And follow intuition when our heart starts to race and we tremble and 554 00:41:37,850 --> 00:41:40,570 turn to dread and impending danger? 555 00:41:40,990 --> 00:41:45,590 There are good reasons for our body and mind to protect us from obvious risks. 556 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,920 But exactly why we've become frightened of dark entities, unseen evil and unholy 557 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:59,160 objects, may be better left unexplained. 51073

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