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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,838 for many people dreamer is still the 2 00:00:02,799 --> 00:00:07,278 Super song it was their first hit 3 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:09,800 it was a big hit and it also had all the 4 00:00:07,278 --> 00:00:11,359 elements of their sound that perhaps 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:15,240 they tried to clone a little bit too 6 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:17,239 much in the uh passing years dreamer 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,920 really personified everything that super 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,198 Trump represented and the sound that 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,000 whole kind of Roland keyboard electric 10 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:30,720 piano 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,960 [Music] 12 00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:34,079 it couldn't be anything else that's the 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,189 only song it can be and then we get this 14 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:45,840 fantastic 15 00:00:36,189 --> 00:00:48,558 [Music] 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,840 shift so playing around with time moving 17 00:00:48,558 --> 00:00:55,198 across the beat and then the the chorus 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:58,480 part um again it shifts shifts again 19 00:00:55,198 --> 00:01:02,079 from we finished the um the verse with f 20 00:00:58,479 --> 00:01:05,640 and g and then we moved down to F 21 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:09,840 minor up to B 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:11,680 flat G minor then C and we end on C so 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,200 that when we go back to the verse which 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,479 is in D we get that fantastic shift 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,000 where you think you've you ending on 26 00:01:16,478 --> 00:01:23,400 chord one but actually that's chord 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:26,840 seven we move up to the verse so I'll 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,840 demonstrate so 29 00:01:30,078 --> 00:01:37,000 put your hands in your head oh 30 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:37,000 no I 31 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:44,599 said you have to remember this was in 32 00:01:42,478 --> 00:01:46,118 the days of the moo synthesizer an 33 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:48,559 electric piano was considered to be a 34 00:01:46,118 --> 00:01:50,078 little bit basic but the combination of 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,439 that Bob 36 00:01:50,078 --> 00:01:55,359 seberg's example of a really compact 37 00:01:53,438 --> 00:01:57,519 song which is a perfect single it's a 38 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:59,640 brilliant brilliant pop song Because up 39 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:02,478 until this point on the record the songs 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,280 have been 41 00:02:02,478 --> 00:02:06,718 complex 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:11,239 experimental um mixing elements of 43 00:02:06,718 --> 00:02:15,680 Prague Jazz heavy Rock and tinges of pop 44 00:02:11,239 --> 00:02:19,200 but dreamers prog rock um and they 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:22,400 introduced a much more a stronger pop 46 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:24,318 element to um to their sound with crime 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,319 in the century it's a fantastic album 48 00:02:24,318 --> 00:02:28,560 it's it's definitely the album really 49 00:02:26,318 --> 00:02:30,238 that broke super Trump in the first 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,080 place you know that was the one that 51 00:02:30,239 --> 00:02:34,039 really made people stop and wow you know 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,440 this who is this sort of thing you know 53 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:37,400 crime of the century whichever way you 54 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:40,598 look at it was one of the best British 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,599 rock albums of it 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:03:01,120 are I can see you in the morning when 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:04,199 you go to school 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,200 don't forget 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,080 books it's kind of a very atmospheric up 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,159 you've got the Harmon in 30 seconds 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,360 you've got the atmosphere of the album 62 00:03:11,158 --> 00:03:15,959 there and Rogers Hudson's kind of 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,120 desperate but beautiful of vocals which 64 00:03:15,959 --> 00:03:20,319 are very provocative and the song 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,599 building behind the intro which they're 66 00:03:20,318 --> 00:03:23,158 very good at Super are very good 67 00:03:21,598 --> 00:03:25,000 at that they'll kind of bring the intro 68 00:03:23,158 --> 00:03:26,199 The rhythms up from underneath before 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,598 you know it the song is really kind of 70 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:30,459 rocketing 71 00:03:27,598 --> 00:03:31,959 along over in the 72 00:03:30,460 --> 00:03:35,760 [Music] 73 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:37,759 park well don't be out too late don't 74 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:40,959 let it get too 75 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:43,359 dark they tell you not to hang around 76 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:46,280 and what life's 77 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:52,080 about and to grow up just 78 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:52,080 like let you it out 79 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:59,798 and experimental it's got those quirky 80 00:03:57,039 --> 00:04:02,959 Rhythm changes where it's it's sort of 81 00:03:59,799 --> 00:04:05,719 building up and yet it it'll break out 82 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:07,140 of of of one Rhythm and into something's 83 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:11,308 a bit more 84 00:04:07,139 --> 00:04:11,308 [Music] 85 00:04:14,878 --> 00:04:19,839 uptempo so in the song school we get 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:23,319 this um um this riff that kind of starts 87 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,319 to Fed out 88 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:35,198 and then we get this um sort of aimba 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,319 sound 90 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:41,000 going building up intensifying we've got 91 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:44,079 I think um a 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,319 vocal on the offbeat and also a kind of 93 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:48,680 wh wailing guitar high high at the top 94 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:48,680 end of the 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,840 guitar the drums come in the bear starts 96 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:59,120 to move in it all sort builds up and 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,129 then we go into this massive sort of 98 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:27,079 pianosa 99 00:05:00,129 --> 00:05:28,879 [Music] 100 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:31,159 so in the piano solo we're moving 101 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:33,399 between this kind of free blue sort of 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,479 jamming improvisation sort of technique 103 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:39,239 and also the very structured um Melody 104 00:05:36,478 --> 00:05:40,800 sort of um I suppose it's to do with the 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,840 the idea of being at school sometimes 106 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,800 you know the blues bit would be maybe 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,279 the kids messing around having fun and 108 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,910 the regimented sort of you shall do your 109 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,808 work 110 00:05:47,910 --> 00:05:51,809 [Music] 111 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:57,000 but so we get this very sort of 112 00:05:54,918 --> 00:05:58,399 structured and very unstructured sound 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,120 moving between the two sections but 114 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:03,638 always kind of planned and not just 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,639 freefor 116 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,400 all there's never a dull moment as soon 117 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:19,038 as something did stop other would start 118 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:22,359 the base would often drop out and then 119 00:06:19,038 --> 00:06:23,719 come back into stunning effects and when 120 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,680 you thought there really nothing else 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,160 was going to happen hel world's 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,439 saxophone solo would come in sort of big 123 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,080 and proud and mixed very loud and again 124 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,959 it was another sort of gear change and 125 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:36,639 um you you it'd be very hard to lose 126 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:40,439 interest the changes in the tempo and 127 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:41,800 rhythm of school I think were were if it 128 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:42,800 was the first album you ever listened to 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,879 a Super 130 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,319 it was indicative of the way the 131 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:51,719 rest of it was going to follow the tempo 132 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:55,319 changes are interesting but they sort 133 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:57,759 of really let you know that they had 134 00:06:55,319 --> 00:07:01,199 prog Ro Roots so although it's 135 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:03,129 interesting some of it it sounds a bit 136 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:19,379 dated 137 00:07:03,129 --> 00:07:19,379 [Music] 138 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,360 today bloody well right really 139 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:28,439 encapsulates everything Super kind 140 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:30,439 of represented sonically and lyrically 141 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:33,839 and I wouldn't really call it a heavy 142 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:35,240 rock song but in super tramp's world it 143 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:47,918 was about as heavy as they 144 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:50,360 [Music] 145 00:07:47,918 --> 00:07:52,719 got Daddy well certainly isn't a heavy 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,560 rock song it's I don't think any super 147 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,520 TR track could ever be classed as a 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,918 heavy rock song bloody well Wright is 149 00:07:56,519 --> 00:08:02,560 not um just a heavy rock song it's it's 150 00:07:59,918 --> 00:08:05,198 it's again it's got pop chorus quite 151 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,720 right you bloody well you know it's got 152 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:10,158 that that that sort of it's not the 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,280 lyrics aren't pompous but they attain to 154 00:08:10,158 --> 00:08:14,158 a sort of cleverness that critics of the 155 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:16,959 band certainly at the time um didn't 156 00:08:14,158 --> 00:08:21,000 like it got up their 157 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:23,638 noses right right bloody well right you 158 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,199 got a bloody 159 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:31,439 right right your bloody well right you 160 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:31,439 know you got a right to say 161 00:08:32,918 --> 00:08:39,399 bloody well right starts with a 162 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:41,839 portentous guitar solo which makes heavy 163 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:44,360 use of the Wawa pedal but that actually 164 00:08:41,839 --> 00:08:48,120 stops it from being too 165 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:50,159 pretentious um the verses are quite 166 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,879 heavy and aggressive reflecting a kind 167 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:53,039 of 168 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:55,879 frustration uh at the English public 169 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:57,319 school system which was something that 170 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:59,000 Super seemed to have in common 171 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,360 with Pink Floyd at that time they were 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,240 obviously listening into a lot of rock 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,879 themselves amongst other things um but 174 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,639 again with using their sort of recording 175 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:09,320 techniques and the producer Ken Scott 176 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:12,419 was a very very accomplished producer 177 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,200 engineer he got just great sounds on the 178 00:09:12,419 --> 00:09:18,360 [Music] 179 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:21,200 guitar the the guitar and bass um make 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,360 things very heavy and very menacing and 181 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:27,200 is a great sort of perfect foil for that 182 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,570 kind of slightly pretentious pseudo 183 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:41,480 World a trademark keyboard sound 184 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:43,440 [Music] 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,720 bloody wellright was an interesting song 186 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,560 in as much as it's a very English 187 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,399 expression something that the rest of 188 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,119 the world didn't necessarily know how to 189 00:09:49,399 --> 00:09:54,240 react to Super chartan took that to an 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,759 extreme on stage where John helwell who 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,600 was the Master of Ceremonies as well as 192 00:09:55,759 --> 00:10:01,439 the sax player had a megaphone and he go 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,480 around shouting encouraging the audience 194 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,160 to join in we'd play our Pink Floyd at 195 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,240 the end of the night you know with a 196 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:10,919 head between between the speakers and um 197 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,039 you'd play your Zeppelin but bloody will 198 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:13,360 right was one of those ones where you 199 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:15,360 all got together and you had your arms 200 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,600 around each other bombed out of the 201 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,519 bombed out of your brains and the drink 202 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,379 you shouldn't have been drinking saying 203 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:24,240 right right your bloody well 204 00:10:20,379 --> 00:10:27,838 [Music] 205 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,240 right right you're bloody well right you 206 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:33,720 know you got a right to sh maybe it was 207 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,320 our little way of of of having a you 208 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:40,040 know a dig at your parents and things 209 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:42,079 like that the albums t a force with Rick 210 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:45,039 questioning whether he's made the right 211 00:10:42,078 --> 00:10:47,000 choices and sort of seeking approval for 212 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:49,879 this although actually you know he's not 213 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:53,120 going to get it Rudy has a classic sort 214 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:55,159 of adult orientated Rock sound and the 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,959 tempo changes at the time were 216 00:10:55,159 --> 00:11:01,199 interesting and quite kind of unique but 217 00:10:58,958 --> 00:11:02,958 I'm not sure it translates all these 218 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,639 years later they almost sound like 219 00:11:02,958 --> 00:11:06,799 they're a bit noodling and trying to be 220 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:09,278 a bit too clever for their own good they 221 00:11:06,799 --> 00:11:11,199 were masters of the tempo change and 222 00:11:09,278 --> 00:11:13,639 nine times out of 10 on on a Super 223 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,800 record um their Tempo Chang has worked 224 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:17,680 for me this doesn't particularly work I 225 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:19,719 think they'd already got into a a format 226 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,359 where we know this works and it's going 227 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:25,860 to work and they were maybe just being a 228 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:40,250 bit sort of um over confident about it 229 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:40,250 [Music] 230 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:46,919 Rudy was a song that took a motif the 231 00:11:44,919 --> 00:11:48,799 kind of Railway the railroad Motif 232 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:50,919 that's been going ever since Chuck Berry 233 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:53,399 and gave it a bit of a new twist once 234 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:55,479 you put that into Super tramp's blender 235 00:11:53,399 --> 00:11:58,000 and you brought in Tempo changes 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,959 Dynamics a little bit of taped sound 237 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,440 effect you really had something that was 238 00:11:59,958 --> 00:12:04,559 quite unique to them so although the 239 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,000 driving Rhythm gave Bob steenberg a 240 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,679 chance to stretch out and I don't think 241 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,559 he's ever really been given the credit 242 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,239 that he deserves funny enough he's 243 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,919 American so anybody who thinks that 244 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,600 perhaps it's American sound maybe that's 245 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:19,919 where it comes from I wouldn't say it's 246 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,079 Americanized as more sort of it's got 247 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:24,399 hints of Las Vegas and it's the 248 00:12:22,078 --> 00:12:27,198 orchestra it's the strings are very very 249 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:28,679 cheesy and very syrupy even that's a 250 00:12:27,198 --> 00:12:31,240 very good string arrangement I think 251 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,879 this makes it too cheesy too Las Vegas 252 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,440 too kind of Showtime there's like a 253 00:12:32,879 --> 00:12:37,278 little wahwah guitar kind of wh that 254 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,680 comes in as well which also makes it 255 00:12:37,278 --> 00:12:41,679 incredibly cheesy and it's actually 256 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,838 starts to turn me off slightly Rudy is 257 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,879 another Rick Davis song and they're just 258 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:50,440 like Asylum it employs his favorite 259 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,679 styles of jazz and and R&B and therefore 260 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:56,720 of course it's going to have a slight 261 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:59,838 American feel to it but never is it too 262 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:02,519 American because Super just never 263 00:12:59,839 --> 00:13:04,959 sounded American Super had 264 00:13:02,519 --> 00:13:06,600 obviously seen where their Market was 265 00:13:04,958 --> 00:13:09,119 going to be highly successful at least 266 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,120 suspected it and they they went for the 267 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,480 throat they went for the American market 268 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,600 and good on them they succeeded where 269 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,839 many many other bands didn't or couldn't 270 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,120 so I don't think you can turn around and 271 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:22,839 say that Rudy was too American Super 272 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:26,600 were a band that America took on 273 00:13:22,839 --> 00:13:28,800 board and took on board you know open 274 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,680 openheartedly sometimes Roger hodon has 275 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:32,639 been compared with Steve Winwood and 276 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,359 hiding in your shell you could very much 277 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:36,440 hear Steve Winwood perhaps writing and 278 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,800 singing and interestingly it was a song 279 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,720 that came together when the band were 280 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:41,838 routining crime of the century in an old 281 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,360 farmhouse in Somerset that was one of 282 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:46,519 the later songs to come together but 283 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,519 it's one that's proved very 284 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:59,198 [Music] 285 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,559 enduring hide in your shell is something 286 00:13:59,198 --> 00:14:03,159 Hidden Gem but for many super trap 287 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,479 afficionados it's actually their 288 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:08,600 favorite track it's a brilliantly 289 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:11,120 constructed song by Roger Hodson which 290 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,800 brings out something of his darker side 291 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:17,889 as he's pining for some misguided object 292 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:25,000 of affection we don't really know 293 00:14:17,889 --> 00:14:28,350 [Music] 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,808 what to beautiful 295 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:31,808 [Music] 296 00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:36,000 it kind of opens with the like the 297 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,199 desperate angle the very sort of 298 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,480 comforting desperate angle of his vocals 299 00:14:38,198 --> 00:14:42,120 and the song is building and there's a 300 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,480 real drama in the chorus a real sense of 301 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,839 sadness and this the song is always 302 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,159 building towards the end where it kind 303 00:14:45,839 --> 00:14:49,600 of explodes with end section it's just 304 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:51,480 waitting it holds back and then it just 305 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,159 lets go completely and it goes in a 306 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,360 straight line hideing your shell is is a 307 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:59,600 wonderful example of Roger hodson's s 308 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:02,039 songwriting almost melancholic in a way 309 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,399 um but but not um not the sort of song 310 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:06,559 that all ended up in the doldrums but 311 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:08,720 there was just a hint of melancholy to 312 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:10,559 it um especially in his voice very 313 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,680 distinctive voice wonderful voice yeah 314 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:15,599 it's it's it's it's not my favorite song 315 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:18,559 it's very English very cute very English 316 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,519 kind of um almost boarding on 317 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:23,758 self-indulgent but not quite um 318 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:26,198 lyrically it's you know 319 00:15:23,759 --> 00:15:27,440 as as strange as any other Super 320 00:15:26,198 --> 00:15:29,559 songs cuz lyrically if you read the 321 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,839 lyrics it's quite hard to sort of 322 00:15:29,559 --> 00:15:33,039 understand what's what they what they're 323 00:15:30,839 --> 00:15:36,199 actually sort of saying um somehow it 324 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:38,639 hangs together and um slightly humorous 325 00:15:36,198 --> 00:15:40,679 without being kind of frivolous um again 326 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:42,759 very good track you know on a on a on a 327 00:15:40,679 --> 00:15:45,599 good album hideing your shell is a 328 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:47,720 perfect example of Roger hudon's 329 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,079 songwriting it's it's got everything 330 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:53,959 that he kind of represented as a as a 331 00:15:51,078 --> 00:15:55,879 writer and the sack solo makes a perfect 332 00:15:53,958 --> 00:15:57,879 Counterpoint to the melody and it's it's 333 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:59,879 a great sack solo although it does sound 334 00:15:57,879 --> 00:16:02,159 like it's played by some American 335 00:15:59,879 --> 00:16:04,838 session musician which maybe doesn't 336 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:08,639 translate quite so well today but it's a 337 00:16:04,839 --> 00:16:08,639 great song and a classic Roger Hudson 338 00:16:08,799 --> 00:16:17,719 [Music] 339 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,879 song song is perhaps the first time we 340 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:24,160 see John hell's impact on the band's 341 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:26,480 sound with his saxophone um it brings an 342 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:28,679 extra Dimension to the band The the 343 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,159 saxophone is the way that super Trump 344 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:32,838 uses is almost a bridge between the two 345 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:34,278 styles of music that you've got going on 346 00:16:32,839 --> 00:16:36,680 there you know you've got this very raw 347 00:16:34,278 --> 00:16:39,480 bluesy kind of Jazzy feel and then 348 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:41,758 you've got this very sort of English 349 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,278 kind of poetic you know very sort of 350 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:46,360 sincere serious sound really John 351 00:16:44,278 --> 00:16:49,039 halwell in the saxophone provides this 352 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,240 wonderful supportive um role where we 353 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:53,879 get a vocal Melody and then the gaps 354 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,000 that the vocal Melody leaves um he fills 355 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:58,840 with this very simple yet wonderful 356 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,159 Counterpoint so we get this um 357 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,278 [Music] 358 00:17:01,159 --> 00:17:05,558 from the vcal and then the saxophone 359 00:17:03,278 --> 00:17:09,358 comes in 360 00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:37,659 with and then we have the repeat 361 00:17:09,358 --> 00:17:37,659 [Music] 362 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,679 me his sax breaks were fantastic in 363 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,759 every every super trap song but because 364 00:17:45,679 --> 00:17:50,000 of the 365 00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:53,400 Melancholy feel of of the the vocal 366 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,919 phrasing on on on hiding your shell I 367 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,519 think that 368 00:17:54,919 --> 00:18:01,080 um when I when I say that uh that it it 369 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:04,480 the song office hope that's in that's 370 00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:06,639 come from from the sax sound haly will 371 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:09,200 was never liked by other sax players he 372 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:14,120 wasn't a jazz saxophonist he had the 373 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:16,519 ability to really make something very 374 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,119 commercial without it sounding trit he 375 00:18:16,519 --> 00:18:22,400 seemed to have an innate ability to know 376 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,639 exactly what was needed at any one time 377 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:28,400 particularly as they developed and on 378 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:31,280 the later albums he was particularly 379 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,740 smart at knowing just what they needed 380 00:18:31,279 --> 00:18:36,480 and providing that and nothing 381 00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:41,279 [Music] 382 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:46,919 more his brain was always 383 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:49,440 winning I can't keep on mine it's really 384 00:18:46,919 --> 00:18:49,440 quite a 385 00:18:50,599 --> 00:18:56,279 joke Asylum is a Davis composition as we 386 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:58,918 know it was one that he had a big 387 00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:00,720 problem getting right it was perhaps the 388 00:18:58,919 --> 00:19:02,679 that was most rehearsed of crime of the 389 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,679 century perhaps it was a question of the 390 00:19:02,679 --> 00:19:06,400 other guys getting his drift but 391 00:19:04,679 --> 00:19:08,159 certainly once they did it was a song 392 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,600 that proved very enduring for Super 393 00:19:08,159 --> 00:19:13,240 Asylum is as good an example of of 394 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:16,079 the way Rick 395 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:19,200 Davis approached his music as hiding 396 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:23,839 your shell is to Roger hodson's s 397 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:27,319 approach um it's complex but never 398 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:29,000 forgetting that it needs a hook to to to 399 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:44,439 draw in the listener 400 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:46,440 [Music] 401 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:51,200 as solum is more of a trademark Davis 402 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:53,480 song but it really in this day and age 403 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:57,240 it sounds very much like progressive 404 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:59,440 rock and it also sounds very much like 405 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,359 an American pasti 406 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,080 I don't think it sounds too American 407 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,240 Super never really sounded 408 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,798 American until Roger Hodson left which 409 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,599 would have been when Rick Davis's 410 00:20:07,798 --> 00:20:12,158 influence really sort of well just 411 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:15,759 basically took over the band Davis has a 412 00:20:12,159 --> 00:20:19,039 very R&B kind of voice and and he's uh 413 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:22,319 very much jazz music very much appeals 414 00:20:19,038 --> 00:20:24,919 to him those are two very American 415 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:27,839 Musical Styles um and they're bound to 416 00:20:24,919 --> 00:20:30,780 come through in in what he does silent 417 00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:46,480 being a per example of 418 00:20:30,779 --> 00:20:50,798 [Music] 419 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:55,159 that the actors and gers are 420 00:20:50,798 --> 00:20:58,960 here the stage is in darkness and 421 00:20:55,159 --> 00:21:01,710 clear for raising the curtain and no 422 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:07,440 one's quite certain whose play it 423 00:21:01,710 --> 00:21:12,400 [Music] 424 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,400 is only ween 425 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,880 then if everyone was listening is 426 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,919 another song of loneliness and 427 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:23,039 frustration by Roger Hudson unlike most 428 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:24,960 of the songs on this album It's piano 429 00:21:23,038 --> 00:21:27,798 based 430 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,640 which makes it a little Meandering at 431 00:21:27,798 --> 00:21:33,440 times but in fact it's saved by a 432 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,000 Beatles vibe that Roger brings to it but 433 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,600 then Roger was always a great Beatles 434 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,440 fan if everyone was 435 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:40,959 listening was perhaps not the greatest 436 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,038 song on crime of the century but it was 437 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,000 a little bit of a a lull before the 438 00:21:43,038 --> 00:21:46,839 storm you can't have the same amount of 439 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,200 intensity all the way 440 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:51,480 through and I think perhaps that's where 441 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,480 it Saving Grace lies it's a song that 442 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,120 asks a 443 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,880 question can we save the world perhaps 444 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,759 some say some detect a sort of a 445 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,600 romantic to the song I never thought it 446 00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:06,919 as that I always thought it was more a a 447 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:09,079 kind of introvert protest song um more 448 00:22:06,919 --> 00:22:10,559 that the world which at the time it was 449 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:15,519 written the world was starting to move 450 00:22:10,558 --> 00:22:17,599 towards kind of higher tech places um 451 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:19,960 kind of communications were suddenly you 452 00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:21,639 know satellites were being put up Etc 453 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,200 and I think it's more of a protest song 454 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:27,210 against the world may be getting too 455 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:47,900 worldy for its own good 456 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:47,900 [Music] 457 00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:55,678 is if everybody was listening a romantic 458 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,960 song as romantic as super TR probably 459 00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:01,440 got I think it was Hudson's voice that 460 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,600 would always convey that better than any 461 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,200 anything in the music and the lyrics it 462 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:08,879 was the pitch and the feel of his voice 463 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,240 um on on some of the the best tracks 464 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,278 that um that that gets that across that 465 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,440 yeah super Tran could be romantic I 466 00:23:13,278 --> 00:23:16,960 suppose if the mood took them and if no 467 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:21,038 one was paying too much attention to it 468 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:23,200 at the time I think the vast majority of 469 00:23:21,038 --> 00:23:24,798 of Super songs when you actually 470 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,880 got down to it were actually quite 471 00:23:24,798 --> 00:23:31,879 romantic which is why the band in a way 472 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,480 had the the the the not so cool image 473 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,200 amongst us guys in the' 70s it was a 474 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,870 little bit too much lovey-dovey for some 475 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:44,630 of us to admit I would Adit 476 00:23:38,869 --> 00:23:44,629 [Music] 477 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:55,159 to well what will it 478 00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:58,880 [Music] 479 00:23:55,159 --> 00:24:01,840 be if any song of crime of the century 480 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,840 solidifies or exemplifies what Super 481 00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:05,439 wanted to be about at that 482 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:08,038 particular moment in time it's got to be 483 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,720 the title track itself it harks back to 484 00:24:08,038 --> 00:24:12,278 the sort of music that they were trying 485 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,079 to create on the first two albums uh but 486 00:24:12,278 --> 00:24:16,960 weren't necessarily succeeding whether 487 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:19,558 that was downed of personnel at the time 488 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,558 or whatever I don't know but um for a 489 00:24:19,558 --> 00:24:25,910 lot of people super tramp's musical 490 00:24:22,558 --> 00:24:51,119 Evolution starts with crime the century 491 00:24:25,910 --> 00:24:53,200 [Music] 492 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,439 in the sun crime of the century it was a 493 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,840 guitar solo and and then things died 494 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,340 down and out of the ashes come this 495 00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:03,839 little pattern on the on the 496 00:25:00,339 --> 00:25:06,558 [Music] 497 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:08,398 piano so not only do we get very simple 498 00:25:06,558 --> 00:25:10,440 Harmony but we get a very wonderful 499 00:25:08,398 --> 00:25:12,199 Melody that's running through that and 500 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,000 because it's a constant it's something 501 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,399 that you can concentrate on and then 502 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,839 leave and as other instruments come in 503 00:25:16,398 --> 00:25:20,278 the strings for example and then the 504 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:22,759 guitars and drums the the the mind 505 00:25:20,278 --> 00:25:24,440 wanders onto different things and with 506 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,440 great bands you can really pick what you 507 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,110 want to listen to and this is the case 508 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,549 in crime of the century 509 00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:31,199 [Music] 510 00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:39,359 [Applause] 511 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:39,360 [Music] 512 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,240 it's very sophisticated there's a lot of 513 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,519 complex very very efficient string 514 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:51,000 orchestral work and they on this song 515 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:53,240 they avoid the Trap of the orchestra 516 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,319 making it sound too kind of Quasi 517 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,000 orchestral um it actually is a brilliant 518 00:25:55,319 --> 00:26:00,079 Arrangement and it works really well the 519 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,440 album's title track crime of the century 520 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:04,480 is also its 521 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,038 climax uh as it sums up in a nutshell 522 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:11,000 really what the album is all about 523 00:26:07,038 --> 00:26:13,158 revolt and Revolution and builds with 524 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,119 great passion and intensity towards the 525 00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:18,320 end of the song which finally finishes 526 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,398 with perhaps one of the most haunting 527 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:25,639 fade outs on any record anywhere uh and 528 00:26:21,398 --> 00:26:32,798 a gorgeous sax solo from John helwell 529 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:35,080 [Music] 530 00:26:32,798 --> 00:26:36,720 for me it's the best song on the record 531 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:40,038 even though dream is a wonderful little 532 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,120 pop song um and school I think is um I 533 00:26:40,038 --> 00:26:45,240 think it's a great way to open the 534 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:49,000 record yeah it's it's it's got epic 535 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,278 written all over it um and it's personal 536 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,480 taste but when Super did epic I 537 00:26:51,278 --> 00:26:55,798 loved it the title track isn't really 538 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,839 the musical highlight of crime of the 539 00:26:55,798 --> 00:26:59,200 century it's not as catchy or as 540 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:01,959 accessible 541 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,159 as bloody well Wright and school and 542 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,440 dreamer which are the standout tracks on 543 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:08,799 the album but it still sounds good today 544 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,360 it shows the band that they're full 545 00:27:08,798 --> 00:27:12,759 force they're full power all very 546 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,918 competent musicians you know being 547 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:19,440 driven by two songwriters that were very 548 00:27:16,919 --> 00:27:22,120 educated good songwriters had 549 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,558 traditional songwriting skills but also 550 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,158 um were listening to a lot of rock a lot 551 00:27:23,558 --> 00:27:28,960 of modern music they were they were you 552 00:27:25,159 --> 00:27:28,960 know had their thing on the PSE 553 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,918 when Super came off the crime of 554 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,319 the century tour they had to get a new 555 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:48,278 album together straight away they hadn't 556 00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:50,558 really had time to do it for Crime of 557 00:27:48,278 --> 00:27:52,960 the century they had three months to put 558 00:27:50,558 --> 00:27:55,158 the album together with crisis what 559 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,640 crisis they'd only really had a month 560 00:27:55,159 --> 00:27:59,000 when they'd been off the road I think 561 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,840 due to Roger breaking his hand 562 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,798 so they really had to look at what they' 563 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:05,319 done and say well how can we do this a 564 00:28:02,798 --> 00:28:07,319 little bit different so sister moonshine 565 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:10,599 with its acoustic guitar figure was one 566 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:12,678 way of layering the Super vocals 567 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,199 the Ken Scot production and all the 568 00:28:12,679 --> 00:28:16,159 ingredients but putting it on a slightly 569 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,080 different base so really what they were 570 00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:19,519 trying to do was say we can still do 571 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:23,079 this but we can do it differently and 572 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:23,079 it's just as good 573 00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:40,840 [Music] 574 00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:40,840 when it was a small 575 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:47,159 boy I could see the Magic in the 576 00:28:44,398 --> 00:28:49,359 day sister moonshine is definitely a 577 00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:51,080 Roger Hodson Le acoustic you know it's 578 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:53,439 the 12 string the classic 12 string the 579 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,079 way he plays it very rhythmical very 580 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,798 driving and he'll and he drives a song 581 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,839 for a certain am of time and then the 582 00:28:57,798 --> 00:29:01,398 whole band comes in on the underneath of 583 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,480 it like like with a lot of their other 584 00:29:01,398 --> 00:29:03,959 songs you know that you don't hear the 585 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,679 Rhythm coming it's just there all of a 586 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,159 sudden halfway through the song and they 587 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:09,159 have an ability to carry a song with 588 00:29:07,159 --> 00:29:10,919 just an acoustic guitar you know for say 589 00:29:09,159 --> 00:29:12,440 a minute and a half two minutes and you 590 00:29:10,919 --> 00:29:14,159 don't miss any other instruments cuz 591 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,840 it's so driving and so positive and so 592 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:17,320 well arranged the guitar is actually 593 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:20,119 doing a similar kind of job as the 594 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,678 keyboard does in dreamer and other songs 595 00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,479 it's it's leading the rhythmic side of 596 00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:24,919 it so that you don't necessarily need to 597 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,480 have a drum Bea in from the start of the 598 00:29:24,919 --> 00:29:29,360 song which is great because when the 599 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,839 drums do come in you get that lift I 600 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:31,839 said 601 00:29:32,398 --> 00:29:36,949 hey I'm 602 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:39,398 Str 603 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:42,880 [Music] 604 00:29:39,398 --> 00:29:42,879 everyone all 605 00:29:43,109 --> 00:29:50,439 [Music] 606 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,640 cry there's always a quirk always 607 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,519 somewhere on the super track and this is 608 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,960 a kind of song where there's no quirk at 609 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:58,159 all but then suddenly on the outro just 610 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,440 the last minute or so it's a very mad 611 00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:02,278 desk gamp recorder solo that why you 612 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,558 know how did they think of doing that 613 00:30:02,278 --> 00:30:06,278 short the other guys in the band when he 614 00:30:03,558 --> 00:30:07,720 suggested went what are you crazy but 615 00:30:06,278 --> 00:30:09,440 they went with it and it's actually very 616 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,038 very effective and yeah so it's an 617 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,320 interesting it's interesting to hear and 618 00:30:11,038 --> 00:30:15,480 it's nice to hear a super TR track 619 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:17,359 without Hing his work uh sort of 620 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000 chugging away everpresent loud in the 621 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:21,240 mix it's quite nice to hear sort of 622 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,720 acoustic guitars instead providing sort 623 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,720 of main with mix of backing 624 00:30:27,210 --> 00:30:36,000 [Music] 625 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:39,480 crisis World crisis was a classic cover 626 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:42,240 I mean you know sitting in his in his 627 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,038 seat lying on his bed in the middle of a 628 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,919 trash sheap or the world was a trash she 629 00:30:45,038 --> 00:30:49,640 very good cover and when it comes to the 630 00:30:46,919 --> 00:30:51,360 artwork of of super Trum albums they're 631 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,200 always quite a statement really you know 632 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,000 you've got this crisis what crisis and 633 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,558 you got this guy sat there amongst the 634 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,240 records just sipping his uh 635 00:30:58,558 --> 00:31:03,038 Cola by looks of it and uh yeah it's 636 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,278 it's kind of a tongue and cheess about 637 00:31:03,038 --> 00:31:07,839 it really as well it's like we might be 638 00:31:05,278 --> 00:31:10,240 serious at times but almost gives like a 639 00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:13,439 bit of a I don't know slight comedy 640 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,880 element to it it sort of depicts the the 641 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,159 contrast that are going on Within the 642 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,880 Music as well you know sort of a serious 643 00:31:17,159 --> 00:31:20,679 thing going on and then there's a touch 644 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,120 of humor with it on 645 00:31:20,679 --> 00:31:26,919 top if crisis what crisis isn't regarded 646 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:29,000 as a as a great Super album then 647 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:32,060 just a normal day might be a good 648 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:40,759 example of of 649 00:31:32,059 --> 00:31:44,879 [Music] 650 00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:44,879 why down 651 00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:53,079 the it's it's actually a very a very 652 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:56,639 beautiful song but it it kind of 653 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:58,558 lacks it lacks the the the the 654 00:31:56,638 --> 00:32:01,158 hook um 655 00:31:58,558 --> 00:32:03,359 that that would draw people in with with 656 00:32:01,159 --> 00:32:05,519 their best known songs with the lineup 657 00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:07,879 That Super had a song like just a 658 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:09,839 normal day could possibly sound a little 659 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,559 middle of the road part of the problem 660 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:14,038 was obviously finding John hell 661 00:32:11,558 --> 00:32:15,319 something to do with his saxophone so if 662 00:32:14,038 --> 00:32:17,558 you didn't have something that was 663 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,879 cutting edge then it could be perceived 664 00:32:17,558 --> 00:32:21,398 to be a little bit sugarcoated but Super 665 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840 were clever enough to realize that 666 00:32:21,398 --> 00:32:24,678 this would get them a wider audience 667 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,038 than otherwise they would have and 668 00:32:24,679 --> 00:32:28,639 certainly when they made their first two 669 00:32:26,038 --> 00:32:31,000 albums as a progressive rock group they 670 00:32:28,638 --> 00:32:32,959 really they couldn't get arrested so 671 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,480 when it came down to sweetening the pill 672 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,970 and maybe getting a few of the older 673 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:50,880 listeners listening they weren't aers to 674 00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:54,278 [Music] 675 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,120 that just a normal day is a ballad by 676 00:32:54,278 --> 00:32:58,919 Rick in which he enters into a dialogue 677 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:01,678 with Roger on the 678 00:32:58,919 --> 00:33:05,038 vocals Rick is the 679 00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:07,038 Seeker while Roger plays the part of the 680 00:33:05,038 --> 00:33:10,079 skeptical melancholic 681 00:33:07,038 --> 00:33:13,558 really and it's an unusual trait which 682 00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:15,119 Super developed very successfully 683 00:33:13,558 --> 00:33:17,359 and it's not one that you hear other 684 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:19,759 bands doing you can't imagine lenon and 685 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:21,879 McCartney doing that there's a huge 686 00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:23,720 contrast between the two vocals within 687 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,519 Super you know you've got this 688 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,639 really sort of heavy crunchy bluesy 689 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,798 sound in Rick Davis and then you've got 690 00:33:28,638 --> 00:33:33,319 this really 691 00:33:29,798 --> 00:33:36,398 mellow sort of I don't know very gentle 692 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:38,879 sort of passionate voice in Roger Hodson 693 00:33:36,398 --> 00:33:42,000 and the contrast is is massive I mean 694 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,840 hodson's voice was flawed you know and 695 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Davis's voice was flawed they would 696 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:49,558 often sing uh their songs at a pitch 697 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,398 where they couldn't quite get every note 698 00:33:49,558 --> 00:33:53,480 but that was part of the charm it wasn't 699 00:33:51,398 --> 00:33:55,798 mainstream it was definitely left of of 700 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,120 Center left field and I think that's 701 00:33:55,798 --> 00:33:58,918 what hooked people in and they were 702 00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:01,038 clever enough to recognize that when 703 00:33:58,919 --> 00:34:03,360 they sang their individual songs those 704 00:34:01,038 --> 00:34:07,679 songs were tailored specifically to 705 00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:11,480 their own style but it's Testament to 706 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:14,800 the the the talent that was inherent in 707 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,679 both men that they could then meld both 708 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,240 of those approaches and it would come 709 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,878 out as 710 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,398 something that was great in itself which 711 00:34:21,878 --> 00:34:28,279 was the Super the the the defining 712 00:34:24,398 --> 00:34:28,279 I think Super sound 713 00:34:28,989 --> 00:34:38,960 [Music] 714 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:42,760 that's well I just don't know the 715 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,918 answer I don't know what to say I 716 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,960 wouldn't say just a normal day was more 717 00:34:44,918 --> 00:34:49,118 easy listening than any other Super 718 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,358 song but it did in introduce 719 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:54,159 strings into the sound which kind of 720 00:34:51,358 --> 00:34:57,039 gave them more of a lush orchestrated 721 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,680 Vibe and maybe that took them away from 722 00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:01,199 what they'd already become known for 723 00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:03,960 which was sort of pure pop hits at that 724 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:06,199 point the orchestra which they use a lot 725 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,679 is particularly syrupy on this track and 726 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:12,379 maybe might not be too the sort of prog 727 00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:18,480 rock fans liking so 728 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:22,039 [Music] 729 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:24,199 much strings well strings a lot of a lot 730 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,559 of bands of of super tramps would use 731 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:29,039 strings and I would normally find 732 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:33,480 strings bolster the the song but this is 733 00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:35,920 an example of I think maybe the success 734 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,800 that they'd suddenly had could confuse 735 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,519 them and they still they weren't quite 736 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,440 sure what to do about it I think this is 737 00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:44,880 a good example of that super TR 738 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,679 discovered a formula for themselves and 739 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,440 they worked it very very well and some 740 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:52,000 people might say they even milked it 741 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,639 well if they milked it good on them you 742 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,639 know they they made themselves extremely 743 00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,719 rich out of it both in monetary terms 744 00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:19,938 and musically 745 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:19,938 [Music] 746 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,680 another man's woman was possibly not the 747 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,400 most adventurous song on crisis what 748 00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,239 crisis it kind of went back to the 749 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,160 railroad beat of songs like Rudy but 750 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,439 then I think we mustn't underestimate 751 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:35,279 douge Thompson and Bob seberg who 752 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,440 certainly on stage and also in the 753 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,200 studio one of the better Rhythm sections 754 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,519 of the time so it gave them the chance 755 00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:45,719 to stretch out push the band along maybe 756 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:48,119 take the focus off the two main 757 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:51,239 headlining guys and really give a bit of 758 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:53,599 drive to things another man's woman is a 759 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,118 fairly straightforward rocker that 760 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,720 doesn't add a lot to the Super 761 00:36:56,119 --> 00:37:00,599 character that we already know 762 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,480 and the lyrics are also somewhat 763 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:05,400 convoluted in contrast to the more 764 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,000 precise way they were used in crime of 765 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,160 the century I I I think another man's 766 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,000 woman is is a good song it's good 767 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:16,159 lyrically um it's a fun song but it 768 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,000 deals with a a topic that's usually 769 00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:20,679 pretty serious to most of us guys no I 770 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,400 don't think it's an unadventurous song 771 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:25,940 but it's not it's not anything 772 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:36,880 particularly special either 773 00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:38,440 [Music] 774 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,039 it doesn't really work for me it's sort 775 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,679 of a bit too cluttered the guitar part 776 00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:45,838 which features heavily is not podging at 777 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,719 his best and then okay they get to the 778 00:37:45,838 --> 00:37:49,838 chorus and it's suddenly their classic 779 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,199 Super again so it sounds a little 780 00:37:49,838 --> 00:37:52,880 bit uneven it sounds to me like they' 781 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:56,078 probably written the song and then 782 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,519 revised it um because it doesn't you 783 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,519 know if you listen to the verse it 784 00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,358 doesn't sound like super so much 785 00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,759 um even though there's a couple of 786 00:38:00,358 --> 00:38:05,480 trademarks it could be it's much more 787 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:09,760 generic much more kind of American rock 788 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,920 than um what you're expecting 789 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,520 super It suffers again from Nar the 790 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,200 whole feeling I think that runs through 791 00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:19,480 crisis what crisis of a band not 100% 792 00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,759 certain where they were going not what 793 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:25,240 they were doing but where they were 794 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:27,760 going they tasted success with crime in 795 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,279 a century and everything seemed to have 796 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,400 worked superbly there I have a feeling 797 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920 that they might have found themselves 798 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,000 sat there thinking well that worked 799 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,200 really well but we've got to take it a 800 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,800 step further but they didn't know what 801 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:44,759 step to take it's it's probably the the 802 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:47,519 least effective album of the lwn and 803 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:54,800 this probably shows you 804 00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:58,579 [Music] 805 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:03,160 why to the water 806 00:38:58,579 --> 00:39:07,480 [Music] 807 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:09,440 you lady is similar in style to dreamer 808 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,240 in fact in some ways too similar which 809 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,200 is perhaps why they didn't release it as 810 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,439 a single the song is carried Along by 811 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:19,199 the characteristic keyboard pulse that 812 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,838 Super were now 813 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:23,799 refining U but this the piano solo in 814 00:39:21,838 --> 00:39:28,078 the middle is really not quite strong 815 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:30,359 enough to carry it it's almost like 816 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:32,920 a poor cousin's version of dreamer and I 817 00:39:30,358 --> 00:39:34,318 think it's already you can hear hodon is 818 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,200 possibly starting to sort of parody 819 00:39:34,318 --> 00:39:38,639 himself without knowing it he knows that 820 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:40,679 this is a winning formula the world of 821 00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:43,879 electric piano playing the Quaver notes 822 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:48,440 parts we have again the electric piano 823 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,440 um doing the rhythmic part um this sort 824 00:39:49,358 --> 00:39:54,239 of very attacked very rhythmical and we 825 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,720 also have a baseline that moves 826 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,719 underneath it 827 00:39:59,260 --> 00:40:05,850 [Music] 828 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,440 and that follows the card so we start 829 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,799 off in B 830 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:16,559 minor move down to a 831 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,670 major then F 832 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,279 minor and back to B 833 00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:23,519 [Music] 834 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:27,720 minor are 835 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:29,860 you I know what you just told you 836 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,639 there nothing going to hold 837 00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:36,480 [Music] 838 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:39,719 you the lady works well and and you know 839 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,119 is it too similar to dreamer for me no I 840 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,759 I think Super were a band that 841 00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:46,358 were very clever at getting hit singles 842 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,440 written and issued um and it was 843 00:40:46,358 --> 00:40:50,199 certainly you know something that was 844 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,358 very catchy just as Lenard McCartney 845 00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:54,838 used to say let's ride a swimming pool 846 00:40:52,358 --> 00:40:57,318 let's ride a car I think hodon and Davis 847 00:40:54,838 --> 00:40:59,078 probably felt well we've had a hit we've 848 00:40:57,318 --> 00:41:00,880 managed to end the years of struggle 849 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:03,519 which they did have the years when they 850 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,559 couldn't sell records I think they 851 00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:07,769 clearly felt that if an album had to 852 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:14,858 have a hit single why not write 853 00:41:07,769 --> 00:41:14,858 [Music] 854 00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:21,720 it I think what what you you're hearing 855 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:24,200 is a signature sound you know I think 856 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,159 once a band sort of establishes a style 857 00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:28,358 they move around it you know but I think 858 00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:30,519 it's very honest that you get something 859 00:41:28,358 --> 00:41:32,519 like lady sounding like dreamer you know 860 00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:35,079 it's that you can see a pattern forming 861 00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:36,759 and I'm sure it would be more contrived 862 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,119 for them to say oh this sounds a bit 863 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,599 like dreamer we shouldn't do this you 864 00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:41,800 know I think it's a very honest very 865 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,599 natural kind of thing for them to have 866 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,880 another song sounding like that dreamer 867 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:48,800 was kind of a more lighter uh kind of a 868 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,519 lighter version of a single whereas lady 869 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,440 was heavier I mean it you can personally 870 00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:55,719 I think dream was a was a much better 871 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,240 construction for a single if if if I can 872 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,679 use that them terms as lady was kind of 873 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,318 it sounded to me more like an album 874 00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:03,318 track but it had the same driving 875 00:42:01,318 --> 00:42:04,519 keyboard lines different to dream a 876 00:42:03,318 --> 00:42:07,000 different vibe I think a bit a little 877 00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:19,498 bit darker I 878 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:19,498 [Music] 879 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,680 feel give a little bit works so well 880 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,119 because it's just a joy L uplifting 881 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:34,598 simple little song like many songs it's 882 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,160 absolutely simple it's so simple that a 883 00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:38,440 lot of song writers think that's too 884 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:41,039 easy do a little bit is one of those 885 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,880 classic songs that became the favorite 886 00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:46,279 of buskers everywhere it was a lot more 887 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,240 radio friendly than most of the rest of 888 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,330 the album I don't think he can fail to 889 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:55,759 put a smile on your 890 00:42:50,329 --> 00:43:01,480 [Music] 891 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:05,680 face and much that we need to share so 892 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,838 send a smile and show that you 893 00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:11,039 care give a little bit has been 894 00:43:07,838 --> 00:43:12,799 criticized in being lightweight but any 895 00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:15,279 Super fan will tell you that their 896 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,039 albums build from the beginning there's 897 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,599 a real Dynamic there they don't put out 898 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,400 all their goods on show from the off so 899 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,400 give a little bit was a good way to open 900 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,639 an album and I think also you can hear 901 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,960 perhaps an appeal a lot of Super 902 00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:32,639 songs observe rather than engage and 903 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,760 give a little bit is asking you to give 904 00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:36,879 a little bit of your love so they're 905 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,280 really bringing you in to the album to 906 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,760 their song to their life and so I think 907 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,000 it was a a Twist on a theme perhaps that 908 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:50,720 super TR hadn't often used give a little 909 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,719 bit I'll give a little bit of your time 910 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,119 to the unusual element to a song like 911 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,079 give a look of it with the acoustic 912 00:43:56,119 --> 00:44:01,358 guitar you start to see a folky kind of 913 00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:03,240 um Fusion coming into the music as well 914 00:44:01,358 --> 00:44:05,400 which is something that we see sort of 915 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,639 carrying on into Roger hudon's solo 916 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,160 stuff so it's something that's obviously 917 00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,598 very honest to him something very close 918 00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,039 to him and it's just the way he writes 919 00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:13,240 you know some days he writes on a 920 00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:15,519 keyboard and some days he writes an 921 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,679 acoustic guitar but again provides a 922 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,159 wonderful contrast on this there's very 923 00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:21,639 little production they stripped it back 924 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:24,519 down there's no Orchestra um the 925 00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:27,318 acoustic guitar parts are used very well 926 00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:28,880 and I think um yeah I think hodon things 927 00:44:27,318 --> 00:44:30,279 it's superbly I think it's really really 928 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:34,219 really 929 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,219 [Music] 930 00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:47,440 [Music] 931 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,119 great give a little bit well it works 932 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,599 well as much as anything because of the 933 00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:54,680 lyrics it's again that that very typical 934 00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,079 of the period Super 935 00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:59,440 intelligent lyric it dealt with 936 00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:01,920 with a topic that you know for for the 937 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,039 record buying public and and often the 938 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:08,119 people buying it were sort of between 14 939 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:09,759 and 20 years old it was it was a lesson 940 00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:12,559 in life and I think a lot of super TR 941 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:16,680 music was lyrically the song is really a 942 00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:19,720 plea for mutual respect and affection um 943 00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:21,919 and to look behind the superficial image 944 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,078 to see what's below you could see 945 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,240 they're getting back on track here even 946 00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,680 in the quietest moments it's it's 947 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,399 certainly a better called them Crisis 948 00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:32,598 whatap crisis but they're still seem to 949 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,160 be feeling their way in in places but 950 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:36,200 this isn't one of them this is where you 951 00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:38,318 can see that they getting it right and 952 00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:40,879 and there's almost a feeling on the on 953 00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:42,440 the song that that kind of it's that 954 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,358 happiness is you almost wonder whether 955 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,079 that's because they kind of know that 956 00:45:44,358 --> 00:45:49,440 that you know like ah hang on it's 957 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,440 coming back 958 00:45:50,269 --> 00:46:02,739 [Applause] 959 00:45:56,369 --> 00:46:02,739 [Music] 960 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,720 my 961 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,838 is 962 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:12,838 again I'm in 963 00:46:09,838 --> 00:46:12,838 the 964 00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:19,838 the from now on is is another good 965 00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:22,759 example of how technically aware this 966 00:46:19,838 --> 00:46:24,400 band are it's written in F major uh and 967 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,920 that introduces the mood of the song but 968 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,559 halfway through we want to introduce 969 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:33,519 this kind of cocktail Jazz feel so we 970 00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:36,319 very subtly shift key we modulate into B 971 00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:39,480 flat major and that introduces this kind 972 00:46:36,318 --> 00:46:43,039 of Jazzy Smokey quality into the music 973 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:46,800 very um widely used key in jazz circles 974 00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:46,800 and that helps to do us 975 00:46:47,409 --> 00:47:10,989 [Music] 976 00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:22,289 now like the school of romance 977 00:47:10,989 --> 00:47:22,288 [Music] 978 00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,558 but we have to remember with this band 979 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,359 we're actually a rock band we've 980 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:35,079 introduced the the Jazz element we now 981 00:47:33,358 --> 00:47:37,880 need to say hang on that was an 982 00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:41,119 interlude we're super tra so again they 983 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,039 shift key back into F major and the song 984 00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:45,680 is resolved in F major but it's very 985 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:50,279 subtly done and and very stylishly done 986 00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:50,279 and that that's the essence of super tra 987 00:47:54,449 --> 00:48:05,309 [Music] 988 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,240 from now on is one of super tramp's more 989 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,800 optimistic songs it tells about an 990 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,039 ordinary person who kind of has a 991 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,720 fantasy life and it's almost as if Rick 992 00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:21,239 Davis was playing the Fantasy Life of a 993 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,118 pop star I say that because it's a song 994 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,399 that actually dated back quite a number 995 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:27,358 of years it had been kicking around when 996 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,200 John helwell had been uh auditioning for 997 00:48:27,358 --> 00:48:31,960 the band so you might say either that 998 00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:34,480 Rick didn't have the time with super 999 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,800 tr's grueling tour schedule to write new 1000 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,079 songs or he saw something in that song 1001 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,240 that particularly intrigued him 1002 00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,880 obviously it was worth resuscitating but 1003 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,558 maybe he had a little bit of a laugh at 1004 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,640 the uh the lyric from now on is a really 1005 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:50,160 optimistic Super song both 1006 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:53,598 lyrically and melodically it also 1007 00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:55,920 features one of the best sax solos on a 1008 00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:58,798 Super album that is is actually 1009 00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:02,960 memorable rather than most sax solos I 1010 00:48:58,798 --> 00:49:05,440 would say are kind of not memorable at 1011 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,389 all whereas this one you can actually 1012 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:17,059 hum along with 1013 00:49:07,389 --> 00:49:17,059 [Music] 1014 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,920 it super TR would use a that Melancholy 1015 00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:32,199 feel in in a very uplifting way and if 1016 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:35,159 if there was an element of desolation to 1017 00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:37,318 to the lyrics of some of their songs um 1018 00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:41,239 you know toying with themes of Madness 1019 00:49:37,318 --> 00:49:43,440 and and and things like that um a song 1020 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,798 like from now on is is a perfect example 1021 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,440 of the way it the song slowly builds up 1022 00:49:45,798 --> 00:49:50,440 and you end up full of 1023 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,760 Hope even if um and I'm not saying they 1024 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,920 do on this particular track but they 1025 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,240 have done on others they can start out 1026 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:59,798 with leaving you leaving you thinking oh 1027 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:02,399 well this is a bit you know and and then 1028 00:49:59,798 --> 00:50:03,230 it it sort of that hope grows as the 1029 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:17,160 song 1030 00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:20,119 [Music] 1031 00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:23,639 develops 1032 00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:26,640 Str what is it about lyrically I have no 1033 00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,639 idea 1034 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:37,630 then I see the 1035 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:37,630 [Music] 1036 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,880 reflection the Bachi is dedicated to an 1037 00:50:42,358 --> 00:50:50,000 Eastern Guru and Roger creates a 1038 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:53,920 mystical feel to the song and he sings 1039 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:57,719 the words with a sensuous romantic feel 1040 00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:00,159 that's unlike most Super s songs I 1041 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,959 don't think Roger Hodson would deny that 1042 00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:04,519 uh he's a bit of a hippie and there's 1043 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,760 certainly elements of that to this but 1044 00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:08,400 it's it's certainly not one of my 1045 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,319 favorite super Trent songs and I've 1046 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,039 really never spent much time trying to 1047 00:51:10,318 --> 00:51:14,000 figure out what the lyrics meant You' 1048 00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,440 got to bear in mind at the time it was 1049 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,239 quite fashionable I mean the Beatles had 1050 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,599 spent a few weeks a few years previously 1051 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:23,439 with a Maharishi it was fashionable to 1052 00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:27,000 adopt an Eastern sort of influence uh 1053 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,200 kind of mysticism or outright religion 1054 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,000 so I think he's sort of basically 1055 00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:33,199 questioning you know should he be there 1056 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,679 in that Mansion sort of drinking that 1057 00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:38,318 Jack Daniel sort of snorting those class 1058 00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:39,838 A drugs with babies in the swiming pool 1059 00:51:38,318 --> 00:51:41,798 outside or should he be sort of in a 1060 00:51:39,838 --> 00:51:44,798 nasham sort 1061 00:51:41,798 --> 00:51:46,239 of on a higher sort of Level A Higher 1062 00:51:44,798 --> 00:51:47,400 spiritual level I think that's what the 1063 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,519 what is what the question what the song 1064 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,519 is 1065 00:51:49,760 --> 00:52:03,760 about to me you help me to face the mus 1066 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:06,760 it out so we can sing it out find it we 1067 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,720 lose so musically it's a very unusual 1068 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,960 Super song it's um it's got you 1069 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,159 know it's got plenty of production on it 1070 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,318 but you don't really notice the 1071 00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:16,039 production which is nice um the drums 1072 00:52:14,318 --> 00:52:18,358 are far less fiddly than on most super 1073 00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:20,400 Trum they're quite linear they're quite 1074 00:52:18,358 --> 00:52:22,480 straight you don't really notice them um 1075 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,720 again the base is Anonymous in a good 1076 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,440 way um and there's no there's no jagged 1077 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,480 edges which you're used to in a Super 1078 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,240 song you know just as you think 1079 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,159 they're coasting along Bush there's a 1080 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,558 whole new section and it's like a little 1081 00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:38,558 kind of pump rock or prog rock type of 1082 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,720 thing that happens and is really 1083 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,480 interesting but there's none of that 1084 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,719 it's much more like he's just speaking 1085 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,400 to the listener um and it's it's from 1086 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:50,078 the heart the Solo in the middle has 1087 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,240 Roger's guitar and John hell's saxophone 1088 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:56,599 playing the same notes in unison which 1089 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,598 gives it a an intriguing quality 1090 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,358 if you want to know what Baba is about 1091 00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:10,680 you'd really have to go and speak to 1092 00:53:07,358 --> 00:53:13,519 Roger Hodson because Rick Davis who 1093 00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,719 theoretically was the co-writer of songs 1094 00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:17,798 hadn't collaborated with Roger since 1095 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,480 crime of the century although it's a bit 1096 00:53:17,798 --> 00:53:21,480 like Lenard McCartney they'd written the 1097 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,639 early songs together but once they got 1098 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,039 the hang of it they do their own thing 1099 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:29,798 no matter what the credit happened to be 1100 00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:32,480 on the sleeve so Roger was looking for 1101 00:53:29,798 --> 00:53:34,920 some kind of inner truth some kind of 1102 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:37,240 motivation and it said that Baba or he 1103 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,960 said that babaj g is some kind of Indian 1104 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,039 Guru or or guiding Spirit he's not 1105 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,000 always answered the question 1106 00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:45,558 particularly seriously but then that's 1107 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,679 his way of laughing things off a little 1108 00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,599 bit not letting you kind of get too 1109 00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:51,798 close but it's interesting that when 1110 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,840 Rick was asked basically his answer was 1111 00:53:51,798 --> 00:54:06,798 you better ask Roger 1112 00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:09,640 [Music] 1113 00:54:06,798 --> 00:54:12,000 the album comes to an epic finale with 1114 00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:15,239 Fool's Overture which is nearly 11 1115 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,679 minutes long and is a classic 1116 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,279 progressive rock piece FS Overture is 1117 00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:22,039 without doubt the highlight of even the 1118 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,960 quietest moments um it musically it 1119 00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:26,480 flies all over the place but then some 1120 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,440 of the greatest progressive rock did um 1121 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,679 it's complex uh odd time changes 1122 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,639 different musical styles all wrapped up 1123 00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,759 within one lengthy piece of music and 1124 00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:38,960 what a great 1125 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:41,000 title Falls over it is it's it's one of 1126 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,670 super tramp's more magical moments for 1127 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:56,639 me 1128 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:56,639 [Music] 1129 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,760 fools over here starts smoothly and then 1130 00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:06,118 breaks out into this 1131 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,000 bombastic uh drum and keyboard driven 1132 00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:09,440 section the drumming must be mentioned 1133 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,358 here um 1134 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:15,400 superb again it's very fiddly very 1135 00:55:12,358 --> 00:55:17,960 quirky it's you know sort of all the all 1136 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,519 the trademarks are Super um and in 1137 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,760 nine times out of 10 in other bands it 1138 00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:24,400 just wouldn't work Bob Stenberg um I 1139 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,799 think is is drumming on on this track I 1140 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,920 mean there there's elements where it'll 1141 00:55:25,798 --> 00:55:29,679 be quite standard but also elements I'm 1142 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,318 I'm sure where he's actually improvising 1143 00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:34,239 as well and I think it's a pretty good 1144 00:55:31,318 --> 00:55:37,519 show from him all around I 1145 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,519 know I 1146 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:53,038 [Music] 1147 00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,680 know I wouldn't say the drumming works 1148 00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:57,200 too well because I think it's trying to 1149 00:55:54,679 --> 00:56:01,038 do too many things and be too lever 1150 00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:02,879 again this is very much a disparity 1151 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:06,960 between what was cool then and what's 1152 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:09,920 cool now it just sounds a bit too 1153 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,760 rhythmically ambitious and there's a bit 1154 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,400 too much going on if they'd have kept a 1155 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,760 more basic beat I think it would have 1156 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,000 worked better and stood the test of time 1157 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,480 far better than it does it's a bit 1158 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,559 pretentious to be honest um and having 1159 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,880 reviewed the 1160 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:28,079 lyrics uh in the sort of modern days 1161 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,480 they not really about so much it was a 1162 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,440 song that they used to call the string 1163 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,559 machine epic for reasons that are 1164 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,920 obvious when you hear it but it's also a 1165 00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:35,920 song that served them very well on a 1166 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,920 number of 1167 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,920 occasions can 1168 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,920 you 1169 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,920 I'm see 1170 00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:54,619 [Music] 1171 00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:59,400 [Applause] 1172 00:56:57,869 --> 00:57:01,239 [Music] 1173 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,680 when I 1174 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,078 was 1175 00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:07,759 Wonder even as the relationship between 1176 00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:09,880 Roger Hudson and Rick Davies was 1177 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,960 starting to disintegrate they could 1178 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,480 still come up with a genial song Like 1179 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,679 The Logical Song The Logical Song is one 1180 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,480 of a handful of Super songs that 1181 00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:21,440 are truly remembered today all these 1182 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,280 years later and it encapsulated 1183 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:27,119 everything they represented I don't 1184 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,960 think s get much better than this 1185 00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:35,160 when all the 1186 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,159 world the questions R to 1187 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:45,160 De there's a neat balance of Li humor 1188 00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:48,838 and cynicism in The Logical 1189 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:51,719 Song and Roger rattles out the lyrics um 1190 00:57:48,838 --> 00:57:53,960 in time with the instrumental rhythms 1191 00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:56,519 with a Panache that recalls Ray Davis of 1192 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:59,679 the Kings at his finest s to give a 1193 00:57:56,519 --> 00:58:02,880 little bit quite simple On My Level and 1194 00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:05,558 U much more mainstream than Super 1195 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,720 uh often were very accessible by the 1196 00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:09,160 general public I mean a huge huge song 1197 00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:11,480 around the world especially in North 1198 00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:14,798 America you still hear it on the radio 1199 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:17,079 it also very importantly won them an Iva 1200 00:58:14,798 --> 00:58:19,400 Nolla award which really gave them some 1201 00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:21,440 much needed credibility that up until 1202 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,480 that point they really had been lacking 1203 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,599 if you look back they they kind of been 1204 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,000 following themselves ever since crime 1205 00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:30,798 the century they' been they didn't quite 1206 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,280 match it with crisis what crisis even in 1207 00:58:30,798 --> 00:58:34,920 the quietest moments was getting there 1208 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,319 and then all of a sudden everything 1209 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,358 clicks into place with with uh Breakfast 1210 00:58:37,318 --> 00:58:41,480 in America and The Logical Song gives 1211 00:58:39,358 --> 00:58:44,279 them another one of those Classic Piano 1212 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,280 Le pop 1213 00:58:45,699 --> 00:58:50,689 [Music] 1214 00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:57,358 songs want you sign up your name we like 1215 00:58:54,599 --> 00:59:00,920 to be your 1216 00:58:57,358 --> 00:59:03,639 is The Logical Song super tramps pest 1217 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,720 moment it's one of them I I personally 1218 00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:08,480 don't think it is maybe the whole of the 1219 00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:10,239 Breakfast in America album as as a 1220 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,798 collection of songs is their finest 1221 00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:14,879 moment and Logical Song certainly stands 1222 00:59:12,798 --> 00:59:17,159 up as one of the best I think as far as 1223 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,079 sales were concerned the whole of of 1224 00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:22,199 Breakfast in America was the band's 1225 00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:24,160 finest moment musically um not so much 1226 00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:26,279 for me I mean I like the album I still 1227 00:59:24,159 --> 00:59:28,759 play it it's a very inoffensive album 1228 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,079 album um and it's a good fun album to 1229 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,359 listen to The Logical Song almost 1230 00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:35,039 epitomized what people liked and didn't 1231 00:59:33,358 --> 00:59:38,440 like about Super naggingly 1232 00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:40,720 infectious had the dreamer quality to it 1233 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,119 but it was also a song that once you'd 1234 00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,480 heard it two or three times I feel you 1235 00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,920 couldn't really get that much more out 1236 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:49,199 of and the fact that in the 2000s there 1237 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,960 was a disco remake of it almost 1238 00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:53,078 confirmed the fact that you really felt 1239 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,920 that although the general public latched 1240 00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:56,650 on to this song it was one that many 1241 00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,838 Super fans really 1242 00:59:56,650 --> 01:00:03,838 [Music] 1243 01:00:00,838 --> 01:00:03,838 hated 1244 01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:13,798 only the album's title track lies at the 1245 01:00:11,358 --> 01:00:16,880 heart of the breakup the relationship 1246 01:00:13,798 --> 01:00:19,599 between Roger Hudson and Rick Davis 1247 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:22,880 Roger wrote the track when he was 1248 01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:25,200 19 and Rick didn't really like it then 1249 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,440 he didn't like it now and he 1250 01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:28,009 particularly didn't want want it to be 1251 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:38,039 the album's 1252 01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:38,039 [Music] 1253 01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:44,879 title a great song I me a great track 1254 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,318 very highly unusual um I'll always 1255 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,960 remember the first time I heard it I 1256 01:00:46,318 --> 01:00:50,558 knew it was super of course but um 1257 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,280 like what the hell is what that about 1258 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,280 it's great it's sort of very self-facing 1259 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,798 you know you know take a look at my 1260 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,160 girlfriend she's the only one I got you 1261 01:00:54,798 --> 01:00:59,639 know sack phone is wonderful and 1262 01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:01,838 throughout they the bass and the 1263 01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:05,639 saxophone play this strange kind of 1264 01:01:01,838 --> 01:01:05,639 almost Vilan type of thing 1265 01:01:05,838 --> 01:01:10,000 whereas it's like H but hang on they're 1266 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,599 a rock band what are they doing and I 1267 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,000 was kind of almost up an arms first time 1268 01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:14,798 I heard it well they can't do that but 1269 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,969 then third listening I just loved it I 1270 01:01:14,798 --> 01:01:21,259 thought this is brilliant it's just so 1271 01:01:16,969 --> 01:01:21,259 [Music] 1272 01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,599 unusual it is a lot of fun it's then not 1273 01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:29,798 take themselves seriously whereas Super 1274 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:32,680 on the whole are quite a serious 1275 01:01:29,798 --> 01:01:34,719 band is Breakfast in America a fun song 1276 01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:38,440 yeah it's the the the frivolous nature 1277 01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:39,558 of the lyrics I think the tempo it again 1278 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,280 it's one of those songs that puts a 1279 01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:43,240 smile on your face but you're kind of 1280 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,319 smiling or laughing along with the band 1281 01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:47,479 because of you know could we have 1282 01:01:45,318 --> 01:01:48,759 kippers for breakfast mommy you know we 1283 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,240 got to have them in Texas because 1284 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,960 everyone RS a millionaire it's just 1285 01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:56,078 they're taking a piss um and it's it's 1286 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,480 it's fun Breakfast in America is great 1287 01:01:56,079 --> 01:02:01,760 fun actually it's also one of the tracks 1288 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:04,639 that is most remembered from that album 1289 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,359 which sold 18 million copies now you 1290 01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:09,879 don't sell 18 million copies of an album 1291 01:02:07,358 --> 01:02:12,000 without it being good and that that 1292 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,440 album really personified everything that 1293 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,760 the band represented and that's why it 1294 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:19,400 was huge all over the world song was 1295 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,680 recorded in around 1979 and by this time 1296 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,318 I think that you can hear um clearly 1297 01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:27,239 that Hodson is starting to question his 1298 01:02:23,318 --> 01:02:29,558 own worth as a human being 1299 01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:31,919 it's almost like the more money he'd 1300 01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:33,319 made and more success he'd achieved he 1301 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,880 was starting to not hate himself but 1302 01:02:33,318 --> 01:02:37,558 starting to despise himself I think this 1303 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,559 what song what the song is about he's 1304 01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:41,720 asking the question is he a worthy human 1305 01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:44,240 being and it must be said you know I 1306 01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:46,239 hate to hear myself say it he's got his 1307 01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:48,078 trademark well it's electric piano sound 1308 01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:50,558 going on it and it's really wearing thin 1309 01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:52,278 by now it's like I really wish he hadn't 1310 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,519 done it put it on this song because it's 1311 01:02:52,278 --> 01:02:56,400 actually quite a nice lyric and quite a 1312 01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:59,239 nice song um but it sounds it almost 1313 01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:02,160 sounds like a parody it sounds like a 1314 01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:04,479 super um copy band super tramp's 1315 01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:07,318 prog Ro Roots it's quite an excessive 1316 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,159 sounding song in this day and age and 1317 01:03:07,318 --> 01:03:11,358 after breakfast in America really things 1318 01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,278 started to go downhill from a creative 1319 01:03:11,358 --> 01:03:15,078 and Commercial point of view I think the 1320 01:03:13,278 --> 01:03:18,119 child of vision has elements of prog 1321 01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:19,880 rock in it um but to say it's a a real 1322 01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:21,760 progressive rock song I don't think I 1323 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,358 think you can I don't think you can with 1324 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:26,720 a lot of super trous music it was highly 1325 01:03:24,358 --> 01:03:29,159 successful commercial 1326 01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:32,679 um commercial pop music I think by the 1327 01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:34,239 time sub Trum recorded child of vision 1328 01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:35,879 they weren't really looking at being a 1329 01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:38,038 progressive band they were a popular 1330 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,240 band they'd found their Niche they'd 1331 01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,640 proved that they were number one in the 1332 01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:43,439 field of one I don't think people were 1333 01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:45,038 really looking for progress as such but 1334 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,400 of course when that happens there's 1335 01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,240 always somebody who feels that they're 1336 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,278 not really satisfying their own internal 1337 01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:53,358 needs and of course as we now know it 1338 01:03:51,278 --> 01:03:55,440 was Roger hodon who was looking for 1339 01:03:53,358 --> 01:03:57,798 other fields and perhaps he was the one 1340 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,039 who felt that he wanted to progress but 1341 01:03:57,798 --> 01:04:01,639 he wanted to progress on his own terms 1342 01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:03,920 obviously if you've made the money to 1343 01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:06,519 live a reasonable Lifestyle by that time 1344 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,358 you've got the freedom to say that they 1345 01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:10,838 should probably have stopped at that 1346 01:04:08,358 --> 01:04:14,480 point Roger certainly thinks they should 1347 01:04:10,838 --> 01:04:18,278 have done but in the event they went on 1348 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:21,559 and recorded 1982's Famous Last Words 1349 01:04:18,278 --> 01:04:24,079 which by then sadly w't quite so 1350 01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:25,730 famous 1351 01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:30,798 again my love 1352 01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:32,610 [Music] 1353 01:04:30,798 --> 01:04:35,949 again you 1354 01:04:32,610 --> 01:04:35,949 [Music] 1355 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:42,519 know all sort of classic super TR trar 1356 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,639 the piano sounds the drums are great the 1357 01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:48,798 bass is Works fantastically on this song 1358 01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:50,879 um yeah it's good you can't listen to a 1359 01:04:48,798 --> 01:04:54,159 band like super and go you know 1360 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:57,480 that is a you know big sounding rock 1361 01:04:54,159 --> 01:05:00,278 song they used the the instruments in in 1362 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,719 clever almost delicate ways and vocals 1363 01:05:00,278 --> 01:05:04,909 were used in a similar fashion clever 1364 01:05:02,719 --> 01:05:21,959 music but it wasn't overly 1365 01:05:04,909 --> 01:05:24,199 [Music] 1366 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,798 clever crisis what crisis crme the 1367 01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:27,358 century in Breakfast in America I think 1368 01:05:25,798 --> 01:05:29,599 those were the for me were the 1369 01:05:27,358 --> 01:05:32,519 highlights really I think then it moved 1370 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:34,000 to something else to another area um I 1371 01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:35,318 prefer the early stuff which was around 1372 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,039 the first two albums that well the first 1373 01:05:35,318 --> 01:05:39,960 three albums that you know where super 1374 01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:42,760 chant were kind of first recognized 1375 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:45,159 after that I feel you know that probably 1376 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,240 more of the Rick Davis angle was coming 1377 01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:49,239 through I don't know they still came out 1378 01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:52,519 with a couple of good songs on famous 1379 01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:55,679 last words but things were starting to 1380 01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:58,318 go Ary by that point Roger Hodson with 1381 01:05:55,679 --> 01:05:59,879 leave uh Rick Davis would take the band 1382 01:05:58,318 --> 01:06:04,599 off in a 1383 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:06,039 more um Jazzy Direction eventually um so 1384 01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:07,880 no they still had some there was still 1385 01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:11,920 something left in the can it wasn't a 1386 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:30,210 complete albums worth of great material 1387 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:30,210 [Music] 1388 01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:35,480 the partnership between Ro Hudson and 1389 01:06:33,639 --> 01:06:37,078 Rick Davis was awesome and there was 1390 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,760 obviously tension there I think that 1391 01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:43,119 they would probably argue about who got 1392 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,799 which songs on which albums but similar 1393 01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:46,920 to lenon and McCartney I think that they 1394 01:06:44,798 --> 01:06:48,679 needed each other it was clear Roger 1395 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,240 Hudson was much more of the kind of neat 1396 01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:54,038 pop orientated songwriter in the band 1397 01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:56,919 whereas Davis was really more of a 1398 01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:58,720 rocker because of the two two writers 1399 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,278 and the two vocalists you know you get 1400 01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:03,199 that constant swing in the contrast of 1401 01:07:01,278 --> 01:07:05,559 the the different styles of music that 1402 01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:08,318 they're touching on well Roger Hodson 1403 01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:11,039 and Rick Davis are two extremely 1404 01:07:08,318 --> 01:07:13,119 talented songwriters two fantastic 1405 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:15,880 musical talents and and just to have 1406 01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:18,480 them in one band I think was quite 1407 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,318 astonishing super tramp's success was 1408 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,559 based on a team effort obviously the 1409 01:07:21,318 --> 01:07:25,759 Hodson and Davis songwriting and vocals 1410 01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,440 was very important but the other three 1411 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:30,240 guys deserve their credit in really 1412 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,798 keeping the whole thing up to a standard 1413 01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:33,358 which really couldn't be ignored even by 1414 01:07:31,798 --> 01:07:35,759 the critics they may not have written 1415 01:07:33,358 --> 01:07:38,558 the songs but certainly on stage where 1416 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:41,480 you'd get guys filling in for each other 1417 01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:43,880 on keyboards you'd get John hell who's 1418 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,519 the Master of Ceremonies always 1419 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,640 communicating with the audience creating 1420 01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:50,559 a bond they all worked very very hard to 1421 01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:54,879 produce the final product and the final 1422 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:54,880 product as we well know was world class 104610

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