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for many people dreamer is still the
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Super song it was their first hit
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it was a big hit and it also had all the
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elements of their sound that perhaps
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they tried to clone a little bit too
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much in the uh passing years dreamer
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really personified everything that super
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Trump represented and the sound that
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whole kind of Roland keyboard electric
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piano
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it couldn't be anything else that's the
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only song it can be and then we get this
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fantastic
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shift so playing around with time moving
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across the beat and then the the chorus
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part um again it shifts shifts again
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from we finished the um the verse with f
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and g and then we moved down to F
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minor up to B
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flat G minor then C and we end on C so
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that when we go back to the verse which
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is in D we get that fantastic shift
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where you think you've you ending on
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chord one but actually that's chord
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seven we move up to the verse so I'll
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demonstrate so
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put your hands in your head oh
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no I
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said you have to remember this was in
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the days of the moo synthesizer an
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electric piano was considered to be a
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little bit basic but the combination of
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that Bob
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seberg's example of a really compact
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song which is a perfect single it's a
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brilliant brilliant pop song Because up
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until this point on the record the songs
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have been
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complex
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experimental um mixing elements of
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Prague Jazz heavy Rock and tinges of pop
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but dreamers prog rock um and they
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introduced a much more a stronger pop
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element to um to their sound with crime
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in the century it's a fantastic album
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it's it's definitely the album really
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that broke super Trump in the first
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place you know that was the one that
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really made people stop and wow you know
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this who is this sort of thing you know
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crime of the century whichever way you
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look at it was one of the best British
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rock albums of it
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are I can see you in the morning when
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you go to school
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don't forget
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books it's kind of a very atmospheric up
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you've got the Harmon in 30 seconds
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you've got the atmosphere of the album
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there and Rogers Hudson's kind of
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desperate but beautiful of vocals which
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are very provocative and the song
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building behind the intro which they're
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very good at Super are very good
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at that they'll kind of bring the intro
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The rhythms up from underneath before
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you know it the song is really kind of
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rocketing
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along over in the
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park well don't be out too late don't
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let it get too
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dark they tell you not to hang around
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and what life's
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about and to grow up just
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like let you it out
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and experimental it's got those quirky
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Rhythm changes where it's it's sort of
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building up and yet it it'll break out
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of of of one Rhythm and into something's
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a bit more
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[Music]
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uptempo so in the song school we get
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this um um this riff that kind of starts
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to Fed out
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and then we get this um sort of aimba
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sound
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going building up intensifying we've got
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I think um a
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vocal on the offbeat and also a kind of
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wh wailing guitar high high at the top
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end of the
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guitar the drums come in the bear starts
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to move in it all sort builds up and
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then we go into this massive sort of
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pianosa
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[Music]
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so in the piano solo we're moving
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between this kind of free blue sort of
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jamming improvisation sort of technique
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and also the very structured um Melody
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sort of um I suppose it's to do with the
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the idea of being at school sometimes
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you know the blues bit would be maybe
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the kids messing around having fun and
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the regimented sort of you shall do your
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work
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[Music]
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but so we get this very sort of
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structured and very unstructured sound
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moving between the two sections but
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always kind of planned and not just
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freefor
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all there's never a dull moment as soon
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as something did stop other would start
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the base would often drop out and then
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come back into stunning effects and when
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you thought there really nothing else
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was going to happen hel world's
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saxophone solo would come in sort of big
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and proud and mixed very loud and again
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it was another sort of gear change and
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um you you it'd be very hard to lose
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interest the changes in the tempo and
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rhythm of school I think were were if it
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was the first album you ever listened to
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a Super
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it was indicative of the way the
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rest of it was going to follow the tempo
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changes are interesting but they sort
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of really let you know that they had
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prog Ro Roots so although it's
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interesting some of it it sounds a bit
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dated
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today bloody well right really
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encapsulates everything Super kind
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of represented sonically and lyrically
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and I wouldn't really call it a heavy
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rock song but in super tramp's world it
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was about as heavy as they
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[Music]
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got Daddy well certainly isn't a heavy
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rock song it's I don't think any super
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TR track could ever be classed as a
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heavy rock song bloody well Wright is
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not um just a heavy rock song it's it's
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it's again it's got pop chorus quite
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right you bloody well you know it's got
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that that that sort of it's not the
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lyrics aren't pompous but they attain to
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a sort of cleverness that critics of the
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band certainly at the time um didn't
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like it got up their
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noses right right bloody well right you
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got a bloody
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right right your bloody well right you
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know you got a right to say
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bloody well right starts with a
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portentous guitar solo which makes heavy
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use of the Wawa pedal but that actually
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stops it from being too
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pretentious um the verses are quite
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heavy and aggressive reflecting a kind
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of
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frustration uh at the English public
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school system which was something that
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Super seemed to have in common
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with Pink Floyd at that time they were
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obviously listening into a lot of rock
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themselves amongst other things um but
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again with using their sort of recording
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techniques and the producer Ken Scott
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was a very very accomplished producer
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engineer he got just great sounds on the
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guitar the the guitar and bass um make
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things very heavy and very menacing and
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is a great sort of perfect foil for that
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kind of slightly pretentious pseudo
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World a trademark keyboard sound
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bloody wellright was an interesting song
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in as much as it's a very English
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expression something that the rest of
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the world didn't necessarily know how to
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react to Super chartan took that to an
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extreme on stage where John helwell who
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was the Master of Ceremonies as well as
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the sax player had a megaphone and he go
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around shouting encouraging the audience
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to join in we'd play our Pink Floyd at
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the end of the night you know with a
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head between between the speakers and um
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you'd play your Zeppelin but bloody will
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right was one of those ones where you
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all got together and you had your arms
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around each other bombed out of the
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bombed out of your brains and the drink
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you shouldn't have been drinking saying
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right right your bloody well
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right right you're bloody well right you
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know you got a right to sh maybe it was
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our little way of of of having a you
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know a dig at your parents and things
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like that the albums t a force with Rick
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questioning whether he's made the right
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choices and sort of seeking approval for
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this although actually you know he's not
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going to get it Rudy has a classic sort
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of adult orientated Rock sound and the
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tempo changes at the time were
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interesting and quite kind of unique but
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I'm not sure it translates all these
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years later they almost sound like
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they're a bit noodling and trying to be
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a bit too clever for their own good they
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were masters of the tempo change and
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nine times out of 10 on on a Super
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record um their Tempo Chang has worked
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for me this doesn't particularly work I
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think they'd already got into a a format
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where we know this works and it's going
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to work and they were maybe just being a
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bit sort of um over confident about it
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Rudy was a song that took a motif the
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kind of Railway the railroad Motif
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that's been going ever since Chuck Berry
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and gave it a bit of a new twist once
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you put that into Super tramp's blender
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and you brought in Tempo changes
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Dynamics a little bit of taped sound
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effect you really had something that was
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quite unique to them so although the
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driving Rhythm gave Bob steenberg a
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chance to stretch out and I don't think
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he's ever really been given the credit
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that he deserves funny enough he's
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American so anybody who thinks that
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perhaps it's American sound maybe that's
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where it comes from I wouldn't say it's
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Americanized as more sort of it's got
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hints of Las Vegas and it's the
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orchestra it's the strings are very very
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cheesy and very syrupy even that's a
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very good string arrangement I think
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this makes it too cheesy too Las Vegas
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too kind of Showtime there's like a
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little wahwah guitar kind of wh that
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comes in as well which also makes it
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incredibly cheesy and it's actually
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starts to turn me off slightly Rudy is
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another Rick Davis song and they're just
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like Asylum it employs his favorite
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styles of jazz and and R&B and therefore
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of course it's going to have a slight
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American feel to it but never is it too
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American because Super just never
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sounded American Super had
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obviously seen where their Market was
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going to be highly successful at least
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suspected it and they they went for the
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throat they went for the American market
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and good on them they succeeded where
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many many other bands didn't or couldn't
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so I don't think you can turn around and
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say that Rudy was too American Super
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were a band that America took on
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board and took on board you know open
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openheartedly sometimes Roger hodon has
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been compared with Steve Winwood and
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hiding in your shell you could very much
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hear Steve Winwood perhaps writing and
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singing and interestingly it was a song
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that came together when the band were
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routining crime of the century in an old
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farmhouse in Somerset that was one of
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the later songs to come together but
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it's one that's proved very
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enduring hide in your shell is something
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Hidden Gem but for many super trap
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afficionados it's actually their
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favorite track it's a brilliantly
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constructed song by Roger Hodson which
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brings out something of his darker side
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as he's pining for some misguided object
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of affection we don't really know
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what to beautiful
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it kind of opens with the like the
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desperate angle the very sort of
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comforting desperate angle of his vocals
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and the song is building and there's a
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real drama in the chorus a real sense of
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sadness and this the song is always
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building towards the end where it kind
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of explodes with end section it's just
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waitting it holds back and then it just
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lets go completely and it goes in a
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straight line hideing your shell is is a
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wonderful example of Roger hodson's s
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songwriting almost melancholic in a way
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um but but not um not the sort of song
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that all ended up in the doldrums but
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there was just a hint of melancholy to
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it um especially in his voice very
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distinctive voice wonderful voice yeah
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it's it's it's it's not my favorite song
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it's very English very cute very English
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kind of um almost boarding on
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self-indulgent but not quite um
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lyrically it's you know
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as as strange as any other Super
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songs cuz lyrically if you read the
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lyrics it's quite hard to sort of
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understand what's what they what they're
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actually sort of saying um somehow it
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hangs together and um slightly humorous
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without being kind of frivolous um again
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very good track you know on a on a on a
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good album hideing your shell is a
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perfect example of Roger hudon's
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songwriting it's it's got everything
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that he kind of represented as a as a
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writer and the sack solo makes a perfect
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Counterpoint to the melody and it's it's
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a great sack solo although it does sound
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like it's played by some American
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session musician which maybe doesn't
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translate quite so well today but it's a
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great song and a classic Roger Hudson
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song song is perhaps the first time we
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see John hell's impact on the band's
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sound with his saxophone um it brings an
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extra Dimension to the band The the
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saxophone is the way that super Trump
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uses is almost a bridge between the two
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styles of music that you've got going on
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there you know you've got this very raw
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bluesy kind of Jazzy feel and then
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you've got this very sort of English
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kind of poetic you know very sort of
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sincere serious sound really John
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halwell in the saxophone provides this
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wonderful supportive um role where we
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get a vocal Melody and then the gaps
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that the vocal Melody leaves um he fills
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with this very simple yet wonderful
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Counterpoint so we get this um
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from the vcal and then the saxophone
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comes in
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with and then we have the repeat
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me his sax breaks were fantastic in
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every every super trap song but because
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of the
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Melancholy feel of of the the vocal
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phrasing on on on hiding your shell I
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think that
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um when I when I say that uh that it it
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the song office hope that's in that's
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come from from the sax sound haly will
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was never liked by other sax players he
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wasn't a jazz saxophonist he had the
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ability to really make something very
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commercial without it sounding trit he
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seemed to have an innate ability to know
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exactly what was needed at any one time
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particularly as they developed and on
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the later albums he was particularly
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smart at knowing just what they needed
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and providing that and nothing
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more his brain was always
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winning I can't keep on mine it's really
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quite a
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joke Asylum is a Davis composition as we
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know it was one that he had a big
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problem getting right it was perhaps the
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that was most rehearsed of crime of the
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century perhaps it was a question of the
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other guys getting his drift but
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certainly once they did it was a song
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that proved very enduring for Super
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Asylum is as good an example of of
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the way Rick
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Davis approached his music as hiding
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your shell is to Roger hodson's s
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approach um it's complex but never
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forgetting that it needs a hook to to to
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draw in the listener
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as solum is more of a trademark Davis
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song but it really in this day and age
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it sounds very much like progressive
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rock and it also sounds very much like
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an American pasti
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I don't think it sounds too American
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Super never really sounded
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American until Roger Hodson left which
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would have been when Rick Davis's
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influence really sort of well just
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basically took over the band Davis has a
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very R&B kind of voice and and he's uh
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very much jazz music very much appeals
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to him those are two very American
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Musical Styles um and they're bound to
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come through in in what he does silent
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being a per example of
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that the actors and gers are
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here the stage is in darkness and
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clear for raising the curtain and no
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one's quite certain whose play it
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is only ween
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then if everyone was listening is
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another song of loneliness and
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frustration by Roger Hudson unlike most
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of the songs on this album It's piano
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based
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which makes it a little Meandering at
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times but in fact it's saved by a
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Beatles vibe that Roger brings to it but
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then Roger was always a great Beatles
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fan if everyone was
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listening was perhaps not the greatest
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song on crime of the century but it was
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a little bit of a a lull before the
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storm you can't have the same amount of
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intensity all the way
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through and I think perhaps that's where
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it Saving Grace lies it's a song that
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asks a
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question can we save the world perhaps
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some say some detect a sort of a
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romantic to the song I never thought it
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as that I always thought it was more a a
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kind of introvert protest song um more
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that the world which at the time it was
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written the world was starting to move
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towards kind of higher tech places um
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kind of communications were suddenly you
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know satellites were being put up Etc
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and I think it's more of a protest song
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against the world may be getting too
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worldy for its own good
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is if everybody was listening a romantic
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song as romantic as super TR probably
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got I think it was Hudson's voice that
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would always convey that better than any
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anything in the music and the lyrics it
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was the pitch and the feel of his voice
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um on on some of the the best tracks
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that um that that gets that across that
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yeah super Tran could be romantic I
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suppose if the mood took them and if no
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one was paying too much attention to it
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at the time I think the vast majority of
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of Super songs when you actually
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got down to it were actually quite
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romantic which is why the band in a way
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had the the the the not so cool image
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amongst us guys in the' 70s it was a
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little bit too much lovey-dovey for some
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of us to admit I would Adit
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to well what will it
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be if any song of crime of the century
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solidifies or exemplifies what Super
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wanted to be about at that
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particular moment in time it's got to be
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the title track itself it harks back to
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the sort of music that they were trying
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to create on the first two albums uh but
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weren't necessarily succeeding whether
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that was downed of personnel at the time
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or whatever I don't know but um for a
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lot of people super tramp's musical
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Evolution starts with crime the century
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in the sun crime of the century it was a
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guitar solo and and then things died
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down and out of the ashes come this
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little pattern on the on the
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piano so not only do we get very simple
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Harmony but we get a very wonderful
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Melody that's running through that and
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because it's a constant it's something
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that you can concentrate on and then
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leave and as other instruments come in
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the strings for example and then the
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guitars and drums the the the mind
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wanders onto different things and with
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great bands you can really pick what you
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want to listen to and this is the case
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in crime of the century
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[Applause]
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it's very sophisticated there's a lot of
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complex very very efficient string
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orchestral work and they on this song
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they avoid the Trap of the orchestra
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making it sound too kind of Quasi
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orchestral um it actually is a brilliant
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Arrangement and it works really well the
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album's title track crime of the century
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is also its
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climax uh as it sums up in a nutshell
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really what the album is all about
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revolt and Revolution and builds with
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great passion and intensity towards the
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end of the song which finally finishes
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00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,398
with perhaps one of the most haunting
527
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:25,639
fade outs on any record anywhere uh and
528
00:26:21,398 --> 00:26:32,798
a gorgeous sax solo from John helwell
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[Music]
530
00:26:32,798 --> 00:26:36,720
for me it's the best song on the record
531
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:40,038
even though dream is a wonderful little
532
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,120
pop song um and school I think is um I
533
00:26:40,038 --> 00:26:45,240
think it's a great way to open the
534
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:49,000
record yeah it's it's it's got epic
535
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,278
written all over it um and it's personal
536
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,480
taste but when Super did epic I
537
00:26:51,278 --> 00:26:55,798
loved it the title track isn't really
538
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,839
the musical highlight of crime of the
539
00:26:55,798 --> 00:26:59,200
century it's not as catchy or as
540
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:01,959
accessible
541
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,159
as bloody well Wright and school and
542
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,440
dreamer which are the standout tracks on
543
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:08,799
the album but it still sounds good today
544
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,360
it shows the band that they're full
545
00:27:08,798 --> 00:27:12,759
force they're full power all very
546
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,918
competent musicians you know being
547
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:19,440
driven by two songwriters that were very
548
00:27:16,919 --> 00:27:22,120
educated good songwriters had
549
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,558
traditional songwriting skills but also
550
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,158
um were listening to a lot of rock a lot
551
00:27:23,558 --> 00:27:28,960
of modern music they were they were you
552
00:27:25,159 --> 00:27:28,960
know had their thing on the PSE
553
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,918
when Super came off the crime of
554
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,319
the century tour they had to get a new
555
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:48,278
album together straight away they hadn't
556
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:50,558
really had time to do it for Crime of
557
00:27:48,278 --> 00:27:52,960
the century they had three months to put
558
00:27:50,558 --> 00:27:55,158
the album together with crisis what
559
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,640
crisis they'd only really had a month
560
00:27:55,159 --> 00:27:59,000
when they'd been off the road I think
561
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,840
due to Roger breaking his hand
562
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,798
so they really had to look at what they'
563
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:05,319
done and say well how can we do this a
564
00:28:02,798 --> 00:28:07,319
little bit different so sister moonshine
565
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:10,599
with its acoustic guitar figure was one
566
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:12,678
way of layering the Super vocals
567
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,199
the Ken Scot production and all the
568
00:28:12,679 --> 00:28:16,159
ingredients but putting it on a slightly
569
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,080
different base so really what they were
570
00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:19,519
trying to do was say we can still do
571
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:23,079
this but we can do it differently and
572
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:23,079
it's just as good
573
00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:40,840
[Music]
574
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:40,840
when it was a small
575
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:47,159
boy I could see the Magic in the
576
00:28:44,398 --> 00:28:49,359
day sister moonshine is definitely a
577
00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:51,080
Roger Hodson Le acoustic you know it's
578
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:53,439
the 12 string the classic 12 string the
579
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,079
way he plays it very rhythmical very
580
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,798
driving and he'll and he drives a song
581
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,839
for a certain am of time and then the
582
00:28:57,798 --> 00:29:01,398
whole band comes in on the underneath of
583
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,480
it like like with a lot of their other
584
00:29:01,398 --> 00:29:03,959
songs you know that you don't hear the
585
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,679
Rhythm coming it's just there all of a
586
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,159
sudden halfway through the song and they
587
00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:09,159
have an ability to carry a song with
588
00:29:07,159 --> 00:29:10,919
just an acoustic guitar you know for say
589
00:29:09,159 --> 00:29:12,440
a minute and a half two minutes and you
590
00:29:10,919 --> 00:29:14,159
don't miss any other instruments cuz
591
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,840
it's so driving and so positive and so
592
00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:17,320
well arranged the guitar is actually
593
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:20,119
doing a similar kind of job as the
594
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,678
keyboard does in dreamer and other songs
595
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,479
it's it's leading the rhythmic side of
596
00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:24,919
it so that you don't necessarily need to
597
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,480
have a drum Bea in from the start of the
598
00:29:24,919 --> 00:29:29,360
song which is great because when the
599
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,839
drums do come in you get that lift I
600
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:31,839
said
601
00:29:32,398 --> 00:29:36,949
hey I'm
602
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:39,398
Str
603
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:42,880
[Music]
604
00:29:39,398 --> 00:29:42,879
everyone all
605
00:29:43,109 --> 00:29:50,439
[Music]
606
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,640
cry there's always a quirk always
607
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,519
somewhere on the super track and this is
608
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,960
a kind of song where there's no quirk at
609
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:58,159
all but then suddenly on the outro just
610
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,440
the last minute or so it's a very mad
611
00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:02,278
desk gamp recorder solo that why you
612
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,558
know how did they think of doing that
613
00:30:02,278 --> 00:30:06,278
short the other guys in the band when he
614
00:30:03,558 --> 00:30:07,720
suggested went what are you crazy but
615
00:30:06,278 --> 00:30:09,440
they went with it and it's actually very
616
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,038
very effective and yeah so it's an
617
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,320
interesting it's interesting to hear and
618
00:30:11,038 --> 00:30:15,480
it's nice to hear a super TR track
619
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:17,359
without Hing his work uh sort of
620
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000
chugging away everpresent loud in the
621
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:21,240
mix it's quite nice to hear sort of
622
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,720
acoustic guitars instead providing sort
623
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,720
of main with mix of backing
624
00:30:27,210 --> 00:30:36,000
[Music]
625
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:39,480
crisis World crisis was a classic cover
626
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:42,240
I mean you know sitting in his in his
627
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,038
seat lying on his bed in the middle of a
628
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,919
trash sheap or the world was a trash she
629
00:30:45,038 --> 00:30:49,640
very good cover and when it comes to the
630
00:30:46,919 --> 00:30:51,360
artwork of of super Trum albums they're
631
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,200
always quite a statement really you know
632
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,000
you've got this crisis what crisis and
633
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,558
you got this guy sat there amongst the
634
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,240
records just sipping his uh
635
00:30:58,558 --> 00:31:03,038
Cola by looks of it and uh yeah it's
636
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,278
it's kind of a tongue and cheess about
637
00:31:03,038 --> 00:31:07,839
it really as well it's like we might be
638
00:31:05,278 --> 00:31:10,240
serious at times but almost gives like a
639
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:13,439
bit of a I don't know slight comedy
640
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,880
element to it it sort of depicts the the
641
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,159
contrast that are going on Within the
642
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Music as well you know sort of a serious
643
00:31:17,159 --> 00:31:20,679
thing going on and then there's a touch
644
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,120
of humor with it on
645
00:31:20,679 --> 00:31:26,919
top if crisis what crisis isn't regarded
646
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:29,000
as a as a great Super album then
647
00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:32,060
just a normal day might be a good
648
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:40,759
example of of
649
00:31:32,059 --> 00:31:44,879
[Music]
650
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:44,879
why down
651
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:53,079
the it's it's actually a very a very
652
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:56,639
beautiful song but it it kind of
653
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:58,558
lacks it lacks the the the the
654
00:31:56,638 --> 00:32:01,158
hook um
655
00:31:58,558 --> 00:32:03,359
that that would draw people in with with
656
00:32:01,159 --> 00:32:05,519
their best known songs with the lineup
657
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:07,879
That Super had a song like just a
658
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:09,839
normal day could possibly sound a little
659
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,559
middle of the road part of the problem
660
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:14,038
was obviously finding John hell
661
00:32:11,558 --> 00:32:15,319
something to do with his saxophone so if
662
00:32:14,038 --> 00:32:17,558
you didn't have something that was
663
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,879
cutting edge then it could be perceived
664
00:32:17,558 --> 00:32:21,398
to be a little bit sugarcoated but Super
665
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840
were clever enough to realize that
666
00:32:21,398 --> 00:32:24,678
this would get them a wider audience
667
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,038
than otherwise they would have and
668
00:32:24,679 --> 00:32:28,639
certainly when they made their first two
669
00:32:26,038 --> 00:32:31,000
albums as a progressive rock group they
670
00:32:28,638 --> 00:32:32,959
really they couldn't get arrested so
671
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,480
when it came down to sweetening the pill
672
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,970
and maybe getting a few of the older
673
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:50,880
listeners listening they weren't aers to
674
00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:54,278
[Music]
675
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,120
that just a normal day is a ballad by
676
00:32:54,278 --> 00:32:58,919
Rick in which he enters into a dialogue
677
00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:01,678
with Roger on the
678
00:32:58,919 --> 00:33:05,038
vocals Rick is the
679
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:07,038
Seeker while Roger plays the part of the
680
00:33:05,038 --> 00:33:10,079
skeptical melancholic
681
00:33:07,038 --> 00:33:13,558
really and it's an unusual trait which
682
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:15,119
Super developed very successfully
683
00:33:13,558 --> 00:33:17,359
and it's not one that you hear other
684
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:19,759
bands doing you can't imagine lenon and
685
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:21,879
McCartney doing that there's a huge
686
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:23,720
contrast between the two vocals within
687
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,519
Super you know you've got this
688
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,639
really sort of heavy crunchy bluesy
689
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,798
sound in Rick Davis and then you've got
690
00:33:28,638 --> 00:33:33,319
this really
691
00:33:29,798 --> 00:33:36,398
mellow sort of I don't know very gentle
692
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:38,879
sort of passionate voice in Roger Hodson
693
00:33:36,398 --> 00:33:42,000
and the contrast is is massive I mean
694
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,840
hodson's voice was flawed you know and
695
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Davis's voice was flawed they would
696
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:49,558
often sing uh their songs at a pitch
697
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,398
where they couldn't quite get every note
698
00:33:49,558 --> 00:33:53,480
but that was part of the charm it wasn't
699
00:33:51,398 --> 00:33:55,798
mainstream it was definitely left of of
700
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Center left field and I think that's
701
00:33:55,798 --> 00:33:58,918
what hooked people in and they were
702
00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:01,038
clever enough to recognize that when
703
00:33:58,919 --> 00:34:03,360
they sang their individual songs those
704
00:34:01,038 --> 00:34:07,679
songs were tailored specifically to
705
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:11,480
their own style but it's Testament to
706
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:14,800
the the the talent that was inherent in
707
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,679
both men that they could then meld both
708
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,240
of those approaches and it would come
709
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,878
out as
710
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,398
something that was great in itself which
711
00:34:21,878 --> 00:34:28,279
was the Super the the the defining
712
00:34:24,398 --> 00:34:28,279
I think Super sound
713
00:34:28,989 --> 00:34:38,960
[Music]
714
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:42,760
that's well I just don't know the
715
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,918
answer I don't know what to say I
716
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,960
wouldn't say just a normal day was more
717
00:34:44,918 --> 00:34:49,118
easy listening than any other Super
718
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,358
song but it did in introduce
719
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:54,159
strings into the sound which kind of
720
00:34:51,358 --> 00:34:57,039
gave them more of a lush orchestrated
721
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,680
Vibe and maybe that took them away from
722
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:01,199
what they'd already become known for
723
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:03,960
which was sort of pure pop hits at that
724
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:06,199
point the orchestra which they use a lot
725
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,679
is particularly syrupy on this track and
726
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:12,379
maybe might not be too the sort of prog
727
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:18,480
rock fans liking so
728
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:22,039
[Music]
729
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:24,199
much strings well strings a lot of a lot
730
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,559
of bands of of super tramps would use
731
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:29,039
strings and I would normally find
732
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:33,480
strings bolster the the song but this is
733
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:35,920
an example of I think maybe the success
734
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,800
that they'd suddenly had could confuse
735
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,519
them and they still they weren't quite
736
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,440
sure what to do about it I think this is
737
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:44,880
a good example of that super TR
738
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,679
discovered a formula for themselves and
739
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,440
they worked it very very well and some
740
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:52,000
people might say they even milked it
741
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,639
well if they milked it good on them you
742
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,639
know they they made themselves extremely
743
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,719
rich out of it both in monetary terms
744
00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:19,938
and musically
745
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:19,938
[Music]
746
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,680
another man's woman was possibly not the
747
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,400
most adventurous song on crisis what
748
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,239
crisis it kind of went back to the
749
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,160
railroad beat of songs like Rudy but
750
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,439
then I think we mustn't underestimate
751
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:35,279
douge Thompson and Bob seberg who
752
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,440
certainly on stage and also in the
753
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,200
studio one of the better Rhythm sections
754
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,519
of the time so it gave them the chance
755
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:45,719
to stretch out push the band along maybe
756
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:48,119
take the focus off the two main
757
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:51,239
headlining guys and really give a bit of
758
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:53,599
drive to things another man's woman is a
759
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,118
fairly straightforward rocker that
760
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,720
doesn't add a lot to the Super
761
00:36:56,119 --> 00:37:00,599
character that we already know
762
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,480
and the lyrics are also somewhat
763
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:05,400
convoluted in contrast to the more
764
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,000
precise way they were used in crime of
765
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,160
the century I I I think another man's
766
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,000
woman is is a good song it's good
767
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:16,159
lyrically um it's a fun song but it
768
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,000
deals with a a topic that's usually
769
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:20,679
pretty serious to most of us guys no I
770
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,400
don't think it's an unadventurous song
771
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:25,940
but it's not it's not anything
772
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:36,880
particularly special either
773
00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:38,440
[Music]
774
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,039
it doesn't really work for me it's sort
775
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,679
of a bit too cluttered the guitar part
776
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:45,838
which features heavily is not podging at
777
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,719
his best and then okay they get to the
778
00:37:45,838 --> 00:37:49,838
chorus and it's suddenly their classic
779
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,199
Super again so it sounds a little
780
00:37:49,838 --> 00:37:52,880
bit uneven it sounds to me like they'
781
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:56,078
probably written the song and then
782
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,519
revised it um because it doesn't you
783
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,519
know if you listen to the verse it
784
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,358
doesn't sound like super so much
785
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,759
um even though there's a couple of
786
00:38:00,358 --> 00:38:05,480
trademarks it could be it's much more
787
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:09,760
generic much more kind of American rock
788
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,920
than um what you're expecting
789
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,520
super It suffers again from Nar the
790
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,200
whole feeling I think that runs through
791
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:19,480
crisis what crisis of a band not 100%
792
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,759
certain where they were going not what
793
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:25,240
they were doing but where they were
794
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:27,760
going they tasted success with crime in
795
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,279
a century and everything seemed to have
796
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,400
worked superbly there I have a feeling
797
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920
that they might have found themselves
798
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,000
sat there thinking well that worked
799
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,200
really well but we've got to take it a
800
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,800
step further but they didn't know what
801
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:44,759
step to take it's it's probably the the
802
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:47,519
least effective album of the lwn and
803
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:54,800
this probably shows you
804
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[Music]
805
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:03,160
why to the water
806
00:38:58,579 --> 00:39:07,480
[Music]
807
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:09,440
you lady is similar in style to dreamer
808
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,240
in fact in some ways too similar which
809
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,200
is perhaps why they didn't release it as
810
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,439
a single the song is carried Along by
811
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:19,199
the characteristic keyboard pulse that
812
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,838
Super were now
813
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:23,799
refining U but this the piano solo in
814
00:39:21,838 --> 00:39:28,078
the middle is really not quite strong
815
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:30,359
enough to carry it it's almost like
816
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:32,920
a poor cousin's version of dreamer and I
817
00:39:30,358 --> 00:39:34,318
think it's already you can hear hodon is
818
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,200
possibly starting to sort of parody
819
00:39:34,318 --> 00:39:38,639
himself without knowing it he knows that
820
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:40,679
this is a winning formula the world of
821
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:43,879
electric piano playing the Quaver notes
822
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:48,440
parts we have again the electric piano
823
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,440
um doing the rhythmic part um this sort
824
00:39:49,358 --> 00:39:54,239
of very attacked very rhythmical and we
825
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,720
also have a baseline that moves
826
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,719
underneath it
827
00:39:59,260 --> 00:40:05,850
[Music]
828
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,440
and that follows the card so we start
829
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,799
off in B
830
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:16,559
minor move down to a
831
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,670
major then F
832
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,279
minor and back to B
833
00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:23,519
[Music]
834
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:27,720
minor are
835
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:29,860
you I know what you just told you
836
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,639
there nothing going to hold
837
00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:36,480
[Music]
838
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:39,719
you the lady works well and and you know
839
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,119
is it too similar to dreamer for me no I
840
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,759
I think Super were a band that
841
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:46,358
were very clever at getting hit singles
842
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,440
written and issued um and it was
843
00:40:46,358 --> 00:40:50,199
certainly you know something that was
844
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,358
very catchy just as Lenard McCartney
845
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:54,838
used to say let's ride a swimming pool
846
00:40:52,358 --> 00:40:57,318
let's ride a car I think hodon and Davis
847
00:40:54,838 --> 00:40:59,078
probably felt well we've had a hit we've
848
00:40:57,318 --> 00:41:00,880
managed to end the years of struggle
849
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:03,519
which they did have the years when they
850
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,559
couldn't sell records I think they
851
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:07,769
clearly felt that if an album had to
852
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:14,858
have a hit single why not write
853
00:41:07,769 --> 00:41:14,858
[Music]
854
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:21,720
it I think what what you you're hearing
855
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:24,200
is a signature sound you know I think
856
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,159
once a band sort of establishes a style
857
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:28,358
they move around it you know but I think
858
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:30,519
it's very honest that you get something
859
00:41:28,358 --> 00:41:32,519
like lady sounding like dreamer you know
860
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:35,079
it's that you can see a pattern forming
861
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:36,759
and I'm sure it would be more contrived
862
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,119
for them to say oh this sounds a bit
863
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,599
like dreamer we shouldn't do this you
864
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:41,800
know I think it's a very honest very
865
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,599
natural kind of thing for them to have
866
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,880
another song sounding like that dreamer
867
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:48,800
was kind of a more lighter uh kind of a
868
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,519
lighter version of a single whereas lady
869
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,440
was heavier I mean it you can personally
870
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:55,719
I think dream was a was a much better
871
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,240
construction for a single if if if I can
872
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,679
use that them terms as lady was kind of
873
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,318
it sounded to me more like an album
874
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:03,318
track but it had the same driving
875
00:42:01,318 --> 00:42:04,519
keyboard lines different to dream a
876
00:42:03,318 --> 00:42:07,000
different vibe I think a bit a little
877
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:19,498
bit darker I
878
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:19,498
[Music]
879
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,680
feel give a little bit works so well
880
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,119
because it's just a joy L uplifting
881
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:34,598
simple little song like many songs it's
882
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,160
absolutely simple it's so simple that a
883
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:38,440
lot of song writers think that's too
884
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:41,039
easy do a little bit is one of those
885
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,880
classic songs that became the favorite
886
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:46,279
of buskers everywhere it was a lot more
887
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,240
radio friendly than most of the rest of
888
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,330
the album I don't think he can fail to
889
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:55,759
put a smile on your
890
00:42:50,329 --> 00:43:01,480
[Music]
891
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:05,680
face and much that we need to share so
892
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,838
send a smile and show that you
893
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:11,039
care give a little bit has been
894
00:43:07,838 --> 00:43:12,799
criticized in being lightweight but any
895
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:15,279
Super fan will tell you that their
896
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,039
albums build from the beginning there's
897
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,599
a real Dynamic there they don't put out
898
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,400
all their goods on show from the off so
899
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,400
give a little bit was a good way to open
900
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,639
an album and I think also you can hear
901
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,960
perhaps an appeal a lot of Super
902
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:32,639
songs observe rather than engage and
903
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,760
give a little bit is asking you to give
904
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:36,879
a little bit of your love so they're
905
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,280
really bringing you in to the album to
906
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,760
their song to their life and so I think
907
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,000
it was a a Twist on a theme perhaps that
908
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:50,720
super TR hadn't often used give a little
909
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,719
bit I'll give a little bit of your time
910
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,119
to the unusual element to a song like
911
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,079
give a look of it with the acoustic
912
00:43:56,119 --> 00:44:01,358
guitar you start to see a folky kind of
913
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:03,240
um Fusion coming into the music as well
914
00:44:01,358 --> 00:44:05,400
which is something that we see sort of
915
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,639
carrying on into Roger hudon's solo
916
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,160
stuff so it's something that's obviously
917
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,598
very honest to him something very close
918
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,039
to him and it's just the way he writes
919
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:13,240
you know some days he writes on a
920
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:15,519
keyboard and some days he writes an
921
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,679
acoustic guitar but again provides a
922
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,159
wonderful contrast on this there's very
923
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:21,639
little production they stripped it back
924
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:24,519
down there's no Orchestra um the
925
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:27,318
acoustic guitar parts are used very well
926
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:28,880
and I think um yeah I think hodon things
927
00:44:27,318 --> 00:44:30,279
it's superbly I think it's really really
928
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:34,219
really
929
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,219
[Music]
930
00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:47,440
[Music]
931
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,119
great give a little bit well it works
932
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,599
well as much as anything because of the
933
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:54,680
lyrics it's again that that very typical
934
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,079
of the period Super
935
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:59,440
intelligent lyric it dealt with
936
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:01,920
with a topic that you know for for the
937
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,039
record buying public and and often the
938
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:08,119
people buying it were sort of between 14
939
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:09,759
and 20 years old it was it was a lesson
940
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:12,559
in life and I think a lot of super TR
941
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:16,680
music was lyrically the song is really a
942
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:19,720
plea for mutual respect and affection um
943
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:21,919
and to look behind the superficial image
944
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,078
to see what's below you could see
945
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,240
they're getting back on track here even
946
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,680
in the quietest moments it's it's
947
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,399
certainly a better called them Crisis
948
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:32,598
whatap crisis but they're still seem to
949
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,160
be feeling their way in in places but
950
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:36,200
this isn't one of them this is where you
951
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:38,318
can see that they getting it right and
952
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:40,879
and there's almost a feeling on the on
953
00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:42,440
the song that that kind of it's that
954
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,358
happiness is you almost wonder whether
955
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,079
that's because they kind of know that
956
00:45:44,358 --> 00:45:49,440
that you know like ah hang on it's
957
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,440
coming back
958
00:45:50,269 --> 00:46:02,739
[Applause]
959
00:45:56,369 --> 00:46:02,739
[Music]
960
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,720
my
961
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,838
is
962
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:12,838
again I'm in
963
00:46:09,838 --> 00:46:12,838
the
964
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:19,838
the from now on is is another good
965
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:22,759
example of how technically aware this
966
00:46:19,838 --> 00:46:24,400
band are it's written in F major uh and
967
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,920
that introduces the mood of the song but
968
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,559
halfway through we want to introduce
969
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:33,519
this kind of cocktail Jazz feel so we
970
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:36,319
very subtly shift key we modulate into B
971
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:39,480
flat major and that introduces this kind
972
00:46:36,318 --> 00:46:43,039
of Jazzy Smokey quality into the music
973
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:46,800
very um widely used key in jazz circles
974
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:46,800
and that helps to do us
975
00:46:47,409 --> 00:47:10,989
[Music]
976
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:22,289
now like the school of romance
977
00:47:10,989 --> 00:47:22,288
[Music]
978
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,558
but we have to remember with this band
979
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,359
we're actually a rock band we've
980
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:35,079
introduced the the Jazz element we now
981
00:47:33,358 --> 00:47:37,880
need to say hang on that was an
982
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:41,119
interlude we're super tra so again they
983
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,039
shift key back into F major and the song
984
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:45,680
is resolved in F major but it's very
985
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:50,279
subtly done and and very stylishly done
986
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:50,279
and that that's the essence of super tra
987
00:47:54,449 --> 00:48:05,309
[Music]
988
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,240
from now on is one of super tramp's more
989
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,800
optimistic songs it tells about an
990
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,039
ordinary person who kind of has a
991
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,720
fantasy life and it's almost as if Rick
992
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:21,239
Davis was playing the Fantasy Life of a
993
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,118
pop star I say that because it's a song
994
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,399
that actually dated back quite a number
995
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:27,358
of years it had been kicking around when
996
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,200
John helwell had been uh auditioning for
997
00:48:27,358 --> 00:48:31,960
the band so you might say either that
998
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:34,480
Rick didn't have the time with super
999
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,800
tr's grueling tour schedule to write new
1000
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,079
songs or he saw something in that song
1001
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,240
that particularly intrigued him
1002
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,880
obviously it was worth resuscitating but
1003
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,558
maybe he had a little bit of a laugh at
1004
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,640
the uh the lyric from now on is a really
1005
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:50,160
optimistic Super song both
1006
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:53,598
lyrically and melodically it also
1007
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:55,920
features one of the best sax solos on a
1008
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:58,798
Super album that is is actually
1009
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:02,960
memorable rather than most sax solos I
1010
00:48:58,798 --> 00:49:05,440
would say are kind of not memorable at
1011
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,389
all whereas this one you can actually
1012
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:17,059
hum along with
1013
00:49:07,389 --> 00:49:17,059
[Music]
1014
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,920
it super TR would use a that Melancholy
1015
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:32,199
feel in in a very uplifting way and if
1016
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:35,159
if there was an element of desolation to
1017
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:37,318
to the lyrics of some of their songs um
1018
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:41,239
you know toying with themes of Madness
1019
00:49:37,318 --> 00:49:43,440
and and and things like that um a song
1020
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,798
like from now on is is a perfect example
1021
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,440
of the way it the song slowly builds up
1022
00:49:45,798 --> 00:49:50,440
and you end up full of
1023
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,760
Hope even if um and I'm not saying they
1024
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,920
do on this particular track but they
1025
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,240
have done on others they can start out
1026
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:59,798
with leaving you leaving you thinking oh
1027
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:02,399
well this is a bit you know and and then
1028
00:49:59,798 --> 00:50:03,230
it it sort of that hope grows as the
1029
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:17,160
song
1030
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:20,119
[Music]
1031
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:23,639
develops
1032
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:26,640
Str what is it about lyrically I have no
1033
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,639
idea
1034
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:37,630
then I see the
1035
00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:37,630
[Music]
1036
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,880
reflection the Bachi is dedicated to an
1037
00:50:42,358 --> 00:50:50,000
Eastern Guru and Roger creates a
1038
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:53,920
mystical feel to the song and he sings
1039
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:57,719
the words with a sensuous romantic feel
1040
00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:00,159
that's unlike most Super s songs I
1041
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,959
don't think Roger Hodson would deny that
1042
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:04,519
uh he's a bit of a hippie and there's
1043
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,760
certainly elements of that to this but
1044
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:08,400
it's it's certainly not one of my
1045
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,319
favorite super Trent songs and I've
1046
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,039
really never spent much time trying to
1047
00:51:10,318 --> 00:51:14,000
figure out what the lyrics meant You'
1048
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,440
got to bear in mind at the time it was
1049
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,239
quite fashionable I mean the Beatles had
1050
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,599
spent a few weeks a few years previously
1051
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:23,439
with a Maharishi it was fashionable to
1052
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:27,000
adopt an Eastern sort of influence uh
1053
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,200
kind of mysticism or outright religion
1054
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,000
so I think he's sort of basically
1055
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:33,199
questioning you know should he be there
1056
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,679
in that Mansion sort of drinking that
1057
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:38,318
Jack Daniel sort of snorting those class
1058
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:39,838
A drugs with babies in the swiming pool
1059
00:51:38,318 --> 00:51:41,798
outside or should he be sort of in a
1060
00:51:39,838 --> 00:51:44,798
nasham sort
1061
00:51:41,798 --> 00:51:46,239
of on a higher sort of Level A Higher
1062
00:51:44,798 --> 00:51:47,400
spiritual level I think that's what the
1063
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,519
what is what the question what the song
1064
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,519
is
1065
00:51:49,760 --> 00:52:03,760
about to me you help me to face the mus
1066
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:06,760
it out so we can sing it out find it we
1067
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,720
lose so musically it's a very unusual
1068
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,960
Super song it's um it's got you
1069
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,159
know it's got plenty of production on it
1070
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,318
but you don't really notice the
1071
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:16,039
production which is nice um the drums
1072
00:52:14,318 --> 00:52:18,358
are far less fiddly than on most super
1073
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:20,400
Trum they're quite linear they're quite
1074
00:52:18,358 --> 00:52:22,480
straight you don't really notice them um
1075
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,720
again the base is Anonymous in a good
1076
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,440
way um and there's no there's no jagged
1077
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,480
edges which you're used to in a Super
1078
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,240
song you know just as you think
1079
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,159
they're coasting along Bush there's a
1080
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,558
whole new section and it's like a little
1081
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:38,558
kind of pump rock or prog rock type of
1082
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,720
thing that happens and is really
1083
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,480
interesting but there's none of that
1084
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,719
it's much more like he's just speaking
1085
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,400
to the listener um and it's it's from
1086
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:50,078
the heart the Solo in the middle has
1087
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,240
Roger's guitar and John hell's saxophone
1088
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:56,599
playing the same notes in unison which
1089
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,598
gives it a an intriguing quality
1090
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,358
if you want to know what Baba is about
1091
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:10,680
you'd really have to go and speak to
1092
00:53:07,358 --> 00:53:13,519
Roger Hodson because Rick Davis who
1093
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,719
theoretically was the co-writer of songs
1094
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:17,798
hadn't collaborated with Roger since
1095
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,480
crime of the century although it's a bit
1096
00:53:17,798 --> 00:53:21,480
like Lenard McCartney they'd written the
1097
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,639
early songs together but once they got
1098
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,039
the hang of it they do their own thing
1099
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:29,798
no matter what the credit happened to be
1100
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:32,480
on the sleeve so Roger was looking for
1101
00:53:29,798 --> 00:53:34,920
some kind of inner truth some kind of
1102
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:37,240
motivation and it said that Baba or he
1103
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,960
said that babaj g is some kind of Indian
1104
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,039
Guru or or guiding Spirit he's not
1105
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,000
always answered the question
1106
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:45,558
particularly seriously but then that's
1107
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,679
his way of laughing things off a little
1108
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,599
bit not letting you kind of get too
1109
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:51,798
close but it's interesting that when
1110
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,840
Rick was asked basically his answer was
1111
00:53:51,798 --> 00:54:06,798
you better ask Roger
1112
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:09,640
[Music]
1113
00:54:06,798 --> 00:54:12,000
the album comes to an epic finale with
1114
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:15,239
Fool's Overture which is nearly 11
1115
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,679
minutes long and is a classic
1116
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,279
progressive rock piece FS Overture is
1117
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:22,039
without doubt the highlight of even the
1118
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,960
quietest moments um it musically it
1119
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:26,480
flies all over the place but then some
1120
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,440
of the greatest progressive rock did um
1121
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,679
it's complex uh odd time changes
1122
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,639
different musical styles all wrapped up
1123
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,759
within one lengthy piece of music and
1124
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:38,960
what a great
1125
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:41,000
title Falls over it is it's it's one of
1126
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,670
super tramp's more magical moments for
1127
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:56,639
me
1128
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:56,639
[Music]
1129
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,760
fools over here starts smoothly and then
1130
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:06,118
breaks out into this
1131
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,000
bombastic uh drum and keyboard driven
1132
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:09,440
section the drumming must be mentioned
1133
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,358
here um
1134
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:15,400
superb again it's very fiddly very
1135
00:55:12,358 --> 00:55:17,960
quirky it's you know sort of all the all
1136
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,519
the trademarks are Super um and in
1137
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,760
nine times out of 10 in other bands it
1138
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:24,400
just wouldn't work Bob Stenberg um I
1139
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,799
think is is drumming on on this track I
1140
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,920
mean there there's elements where it'll
1141
00:55:25,798 --> 00:55:29,679
be quite standard but also elements I'm
1142
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,318
I'm sure where he's actually improvising
1143
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:34,239
as well and I think it's a pretty good
1144
00:55:31,318 --> 00:55:37,519
show from him all around I
1145
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,519
know I
1146
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:53,038
[Music]
1147
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,680
know I wouldn't say the drumming works
1148
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:57,200
too well because I think it's trying to
1149
00:55:54,679 --> 00:56:01,038
do too many things and be too lever
1150
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:02,879
again this is very much a disparity
1151
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:06,960
between what was cool then and what's
1152
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:09,920
cool now it just sounds a bit too
1153
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,760
rhythmically ambitious and there's a bit
1154
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,400
too much going on if they'd have kept a
1155
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,760
more basic beat I think it would have
1156
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,000
worked better and stood the test of time
1157
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,480
far better than it does it's a bit
1158
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,559
pretentious to be honest um and having
1159
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,880
reviewed the
1160
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:28,079
lyrics uh in the sort of modern days
1161
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,480
they not really about so much it was a
1162
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,440
song that they used to call the string
1163
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,559
machine epic for reasons that are
1164
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,920
obvious when you hear it but it's also a
1165
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:35,920
song that served them very well on a
1166
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,920
number of
1167
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,920
occasions can
1168
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,920
you
1169
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,920
I'm see
1170
00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:54,619
[Music]
1171
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:59,400
[Applause]
1172
00:56:57,869 --> 00:57:01,239
[Music]
1173
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,680
when I
1174
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,078
was
1175
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:07,759
Wonder even as the relationship between
1176
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:09,880
Roger Hudson and Rick Davies was
1177
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,960
starting to disintegrate they could
1178
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,480
still come up with a genial song Like
1179
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,679
The Logical Song The Logical Song is one
1180
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,480
of a handful of Super songs that
1181
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:21,440
are truly remembered today all these
1182
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,280
years later and it encapsulated
1183
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:27,119
everything they represented I don't
1184
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,960
think s get much better than this
1185
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:35,160
when all the
1186
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,159
world the questions R to
1187
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:45,160
De there's a neat balance of Li humor
1188
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:48,838
and cynicism in The Logical
1189
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:51,719
Song and Roger rattles out the lyrics um
1190
00:57:48,838 --> 00:57:53,960
in time with the instrumental rhythms
1191
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:56,519
with a Panache that recalls Ray Davis of
1192
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:59,679
the Kings at his finest s to give a
1193
00:57:56,519 --> 00:58:02,880
little bit quite simple On My Level and
1194
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:05,558
U much more mainstream than Super
1195
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,720
uh often were very accessible by the
1196
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:09,160
general public I mean a huge huge song
1197
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:11,480
around the world especially in North
1198
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:14,798
America you still hear it on the radio
1199
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:17,079
it also very importantly won them an Iva
1200
00:58:14,798 --> 00:58:19,400
Nolla award which really gave them some
1201
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:21,440
much needed credibility that up until
1202
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,480
that point they really had been lacking
1203
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,599
if you look back they they kind of been
1204
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,000
following themselves ever since crime
1205
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:30,798
the century they' been they didn't quite
1206
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,280
match it with crisis what crisis even in
1207
00:58:30,798 --> 00:58:34,920
the quietest moments was getting there
1208
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,319
and then all of a sudden everything
1209
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,358
clicks into place with with uh Breakfast
1210
00:58:37,318 --> 00:58:41,480
in America and The Logical Song gives
1211
00:58:39,358 --> 00:58:44,279
them another one of those Classic Piano
1212
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Le pop
1213
00:58:45,699 --> 00:58:50,689
[Music]
1214
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:57,358
songs want you sign up your name we like
1215
00:58:54,599 --> 00:59:00,920
to be your
1216
00:58:57,358 --> 00:59:03,639
is The Logical Song super tramps pest
1217
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,720
moment it's one of them I I personally
1218
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:08,480
don't think it is maybe the whole of the
1219
00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:10,239
Breakfast in America album as as a
1220
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,798
collection of songs is their finest
1221
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:14,879
moment and Logical Song certainly stands
1222
00:59:12,798 --> 00:59:17,159
up as one of the best I think as far as
1223
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,079
sales were concerned the whole of of
1224
00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:22,199
Breakfast in America was the band's
1225
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:24,160
finest moment musically um not so much
1226
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:26,279
for me I mean I like the album I still
1227
00:59:24,159 --> 00:59:28,759
play it it's a very inoffensive album
1228
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,079
album um and it's a good fun album to
1229
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,359
listen to The Logical Song almost
1230
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:35,039
epitomized what people liked and didn't
1231
00:59:33,358 --> 00:59:38,440
like about Super naggingly
1232
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:40,720
infectious had the dreamer quality to it
1233
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,119
but it was also a song that once you'd
1234
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,480
heard it two or three times I feel you
1235
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,920
couldn't really get that much more out
1236
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:49,199
of and the fact that in the 2000s there
1237
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,960
was a disco remake of it almost
1238
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:53,078
confirmed the fact that you really felt
1239
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,920
that although the general public latched
1240
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:56,650
on to this song it was one that many
1241
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,838
Super fans really
1242
00:59:56,650 --> 01:00:03,838
[Music]
1243
01:00:00,838 --> 01:00:03,838
hated
1244
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:13,798
only the album's title track lies at the
1245
01:00:11,358 --> 01:00:16,880
heart of the breakup the relationship
1246
01:00:13,798 --> 01:00:19,599
between Roger Hudson and Rick Davis
1247
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:22,880
Roger wrote the track when he was
1248
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:25,200
19 and Rick didn't really like it then
1249
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,440
he didn't like it now and he
1250
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:28,009
particularly didn't want want it to be
1251
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:38,039
the album's
1252
01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:38,039
[Music]
1253
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:44,879
title a great song I me a great track
1254
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,318
very highly unusual um I'll always
1255
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,960
remember the first time I heard it I
1256
01:00:46,318 --> 01:00:50,558
knew it was super of course but um
1257
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,280
like what the hell is what that about
1258
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,280
it's great it's sort of very self-facing
1259
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,798
you know you know take a look at my
1260
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,160
girlfriend she's the only one I got you
1261
01:00:54,798 --> 01:00:59,639
know sack phone is wonderful and
1262
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:01,838
throughout they the bass and the
1263
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:05,639
saxophone play this strange kind of
1264
01:01:01,838 --> 01:01:05,639
almost Vilan type of thing
1265
01:01:05,838 --> 01:01:10,000
whereas it's like H but hang on they're
1266
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,599
a rock band what are they doing and I
1267
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,000
was kind of almost up an arms first time
1268
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:14,798
I heard it well they can't do that but
1269
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,969
then third listening I just loved it I
1270
01:01:14,798 --> 01:01:21,259
thought this is brilliant it's just so
1271
01:01:16,969 --> 01:01:21,259
[Music]
1272
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,599
unusual it is a lot of fun it's then not
1273
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:29,798
take themselves seriously whereas Super
1274
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:32,680
on the whole are quite a serious
1275
01:01:29,798 --> 01:01:34,719
band is Breakfast in America a fun song
1276
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:38,440
yeah it's the the the frivolous nature
1277
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:39,558
of the lyrics I think the tempo it again
1278
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,280
it's one of those songs that puts a
1279
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:43,240
smile on your face but you're kind of
1280
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,319
smiling or laughing along with the band
1281
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:47,479
because of you know could we have
1282
01:01:45,318 --> 01:01:48,759
kippers for breakfast mommy you know we
1283
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,240
got to have them in Texas because
1284
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,960
everyone RS a millionaire it's just
1285
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:56,078
they're taking a piss um and it's it's
1286
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,480
it's fun Breakfast in America is great
1287
01:01:56,079 --> 01:02:01,760
fun actually it's also one of the tracks
1288
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:04,639
that is most remembered from that album
1289
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,359
which sold 18 million copies now you
1290
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:09,879
don't sell 18 million copies of an album
1291
01:02:07,358 --> 01:02:12,000
without it being good and that that
1292
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,440
album really personified everything that
1293
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,760
the band represented and that's why it
1294
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:19,400
was huge all over the world song was
1295
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,680
recorded in around 1979 and by this time
1296
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,318
I think that you can hear um clearly
1297
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:27,239
that Hodson is starting to question his
1298
01:02:23,318 --> 01:02:29,558
own worth as a human being
1299
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:31,919
it's almost like the more money he'd
1300
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:33,319
made and more success he'd achieved he
1301
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,880
was starting to not hate himself but
1302
01:02:33,318 --> 01:02:37,558
starting to despise himself I think this
1303
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,559
what song what the song is about he's
1304
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:41,720
asking the question is he a worthy human
1305
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:44,240
being and it must be said you know I
1306
01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:46,239
hate to hear myself say it he's got his
1307
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:48,078
trademark well it's electric piano sound
1308
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:50,558
going on it and it's really wearing thin
1309
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:52,278
by now it's like I really wish he hadn't
1310
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,519
done it put it on this song because it's
1311
01:02:52,278 --> 01:02:56,400
actually quite a nice lyric and quite a
1312
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:59,239
nice song um but it sounds it almost
1313
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:02,160
sounds like a parody it sounds like a
1314
01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:04,479
super um copy band super tramp's
1315
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:07,318
prog Ro Roots it's quite an excessive
1316
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,159
sounding song in this day and age and
1317
01:03:07,318 --> 01:03:11,358
after breakfast in America really things
1318
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,278
started to go downhill from a creative
1319
01:03:11,358 --> 01:03:15,078
and Commercial point of view I think the
1320
01:03:13,278 --> 01:03:18,119
child of vision has elements of prog
1321
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:19,880
rock in it um but to say it's a a real
1322
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:21,760
progressive rock song I don't think I
1323
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,358
think you can I don't think you can with
1324
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:26,720
a lot of super trous music it was highly
1325
01:03:24,358 --> 01:03:29,159
successful commercial
1326
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:32,679
um commercial pop music I think by the
1327
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:34,239
time sub Trum recorded child of vision
1328
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:35,879
they weren't really looking at being a
1329
01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:38,038
progressive band they were a popular
1330
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,240
band they'd found their Niche they'd
1331
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,640
proved that they were number one in the
1332
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:43,439
field of one I don't think people were
1333
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:45,038
really looking for progress as such but
1334
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,400
of course when that happens there's
1335
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,240
always somebody who feels that they're
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not really satisfying their own internal
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needs and of course as we now know it
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was Roger hodon who was looking for
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other fields and perhaps he was the one
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who felt that he wanted to progress but
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he wanted to progress on his own terms
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obviously if you've made the money to
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live a reasonable Lifestyle by that time
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you've got the freedom to say that they
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should probably have stopped at that
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point Roger certainly thinks they should
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have done but in the event they went on
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and recorded 1982's Famous Last Words
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which by then sadly w't quite so
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famous
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again my love
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[Music]
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again you
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[Music]
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know all sort of classic super TR trar
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the piano sounds the drums are great the
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bass is Works fantastically on this song
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um yeah it's good you can't listen to a
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band like super and go you know
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that is a you know big sounding rock
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song they used the the instruments in in
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clever almost delicate ways and vocals
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were used in a similar fashion clever
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music but it wasn't overly
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[Music]
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clever crisis what crisis crme the
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century in Breakfast in America I think
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those were the for me were the
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highlights really I think then it moved
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to something else to another area um I
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prefer the early stuff which was around
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the first two albums that well the first
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three albums that you know where super
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chant were kind of first recognized
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after that I feel you know that probably
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more of the Rick Davis angle was coming
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through I don't know they still came out
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with a couple of good songs on famous
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last words but things were starting to
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go Ary by that point Roger Hodson with
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leave uh Rick Davis would take the band
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off in a
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more um Jazzy Direction eventually um so
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no they still had some there was still
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something left in the can it wasn't a
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complete albums worth of great material
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[Music]
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the partnership between Ro Hudson and
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Rick Davis was awesome and there was
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obviously tension there I think that
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they would probably argue about who got
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which songs on which albums but similar
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to lenon and McCartney I think that they
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needed each other it was clear Roger
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Hudson was much more of the kind of neat
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pop orientated songwriter in the band
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whereas Davis was really more of a
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rocker because of the two two writers
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and the two vocalists you know you get
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that constant swing in the contrast of
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the the different styles of music that
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they're touching on well Roger Hodson
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and Rick Davis are two extremely
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talented songwriters two fantastic
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musical talents and and just to have
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them in one band I think was quite
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astonishing super tramp's success was
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based on a team effort obviously the
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Hodson and Davis songwriting and vocals
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was very important but the other three
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guys deserve their credit in really
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keeping the whole thing up to a standard
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which really couldn't be ignored even by
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the critics they may not have written
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the songs but certainly on stage where
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you'd get guys filling in for each other
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on keyboards you'd get John hell who's
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the Master of Ceremonies always
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communicating with the audience creating
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a bond they all worked very very hard to
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produce the final product and the final
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product as we well know was world class
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