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Uh, we don't get TV in this
house, um, we all have computers.
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My daughter and my son are three and two
and they each have their own computers,
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and they're lined up next
to mommy's computers, and,
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um, my little girl is
really really super smart.
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She can use a computer really well,
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she surfs around this, online
and she uses photoshop
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she uses word, I mean she's
only three years old
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and she can read and write
and use a computer
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just like an adult, she's pretty amazing.
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I didn't plan to be a single mom.
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I didn't plan to be stuck
in the middle of the desert
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where I don't know anybody,
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it's just kind of
all been thrown for a loop.
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So at that point I said
we gotta arrest him,
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so we arrested him,
and he cried like a baby, didn't he.
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"I can't go back to jail! Ahhhhhhhh!"
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and he just cried like a baby.
I said okay.
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I gave him the opportunity
to make very small
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reasonable payments,
he didn't make any of the payments,
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I warned him if he didn't make the payments
I was gonna come and take his grandma's car.
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That's what he forced us to do,
and the day that I took this car
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his little 87-year-old grandma
or mother was out there with her walker
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watching us take her car.
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And it was one of the hardest things
I've ever had to do.
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But you know what? Business is business.
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So. Now the clay is pretty much
conditioned, it's ready to be worked with.
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We're gonna give ourselves, a base, and
then uh, he will be put into action.
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I would see if he can find a girlfriend.
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Since he's gone throughout
this radical surgical procedure,
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to have his
penis re-installed.
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Imagine how happy he is when he wakes up
and finds out, he's got a dick again.
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Wow, you know that's a, that's a big
day in the coyote's life. Huh?!
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And I knew that, getting this opportunity
to be on a mainstream show,
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I knew my whole life,
like, once I got out to LA,
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once I could get on a reality show,
and get the opportunity to show people,
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like, about me,
that that would be the big thing
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I need to move forward mainstream. I just
need that one opportunity to get there.
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No! What happens is it like, it like, like,
you're trying to put it in it like bends.
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And you, it's better if it's like a
solid one. -That's reality right there.
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No, I'm not kidding. But, like, one like
this, then it doesn't, it goes faster.
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And he comes from, of course the uh, story
of the old testament, the story of Josean.
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Um, and this is
kind of a modern day adaptation of that.
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Currently, (unintelligible conversation)
That is amazing,
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that is amazing
and God bless you and take care.
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I'm definitely still growing spiritually.
I don't think you can ever quit growing.
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There's always room to get closer to God
and things to learn about him and...
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ways to change your life and to improve.
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It is a mess.
- You're a mess.
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It's a mess. But that's
the way gnocchies are.
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A little bit of a mess.
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It's like, a guy told me once,
when he was painting.
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Is that how you,
how it was more basic and then he went in.
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Well it wasn't more basic,
it was just a painting I did
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and then one day I took it out and I just
started painting
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all this other stuff in there
and just went in with this reds and...
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I don't, I don't remember
what it looked like before,
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I can't remember, I just, very hard to
keep a band together and I only wanna play
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with certain guys
that I really love playing with.
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Cause it all comes together, it's
like summer theatre you know.
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Wow! I got a barn, and
I got to, I got to,
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I got the instruments, we'll put our own
show on! You know what I mean.
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It all still has that, that element.
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This is uh, one of the Chinatown series.
From my home town. After the mill closed.
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I mean, pretty much closed.
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What'd you get last year, for
your birthday, from Aunt Lynny?
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I think a Power Ranger suit. -You got what?
No, you didn't!
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You didn't get a Power Ranger suit
that was for Halloween.
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You got an electric guitar...
A 'lectric guitar...
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A REAL electric guitar!
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Why? Because you told aunt Lynny you
wanted to grow up to be a rockstar.
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You know what, I just see a beautiful
girl and I just wanna hug her!
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Well, I love this one right here,
so I telling you.
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I currently reach out to women and men in
the sex industry and the porn industry
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and I absolutely love pulling them
out of the pit
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the porn industry pit.
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It's 1800 square feet and, the guest
house is around 600 square feet.
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That little garage area, I don't know.
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Um, it took me about a year to really
get serious about studying,
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and, it took me three times to
pass the test, but I did it and,...
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here I am.
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Got into real-estate, I've
been in it for five years.
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Over here. -Yup.
- Dark and mild.
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No, he likes the dark heavy.
Dark heavy.
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When I'm at home,
I run around with no makeup on,
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a pair of sweatpants, bare foot, a t-shirt,
and I'm usually out in the yard digging.
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Because I like to plant things,
I like to grow things.
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Or decorating my house.
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I like to do crafty things,
like, you know, I don't,
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I know I don't seem like
the domestic goddess!
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But I, I,
I like to make things for the house
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and I love to cook.
And, I'm a very good cook.
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I had a little bit, of, a, some bad
terrible terrible news, uh, this April.
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Um, I was diagnosed with uh,
stage three melanoma cancer.
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So for the past four or five months I've
been dealing with that and on chemo.
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They recommended complete dissection
of the lymph-nodes,
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and then to be on heavy-dose interferon,
which would be uh, intravenous,
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which I would get five times a week, for
the first month, and then after that,
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three times a week, for eleven
months, for the rest of the year.
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And um, it's, it's been tough.
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It's actually great here, cause, how
many porno stars live here? I know...
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There's some more uh, there's
some more coming in uh, Sunset,
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uh, Houston, uh,
Taylor Saint-Claire just moved here.
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What, whatever happened to uh,
she was really hot, but I loved her.
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What happened to that um... oh
godammit, I don't know their names
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I'm really bad with this, um...
You remember their tits. Yeah.
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Oh god, she was um,
oh that doesn't make any difference.
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She was living here for
a long time she was so hot.
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(unintelligible conversation)
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Oh yeah, she just moved outta town,
yeah, she just moved outta town.
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And uh, that's the only thing
I missed out on in life.
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I've done, pretty much everything I wanted.
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I did wanna have kids,
didn't have the opportunity
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to meet the right woman the right
time, so I do kinda miss out on that,
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but uh,
nobody gets everything there's other guys
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that have great kids
and they love every minute of it
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they kinda wish they were me,
fantasy wise,
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but um, nobody gets everything.
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AFTER PORN ENDS
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I started modeling in ninth grade.
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My mom put me through modeling school,
I graduated from modeling school,
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started doing beauty pageants, and
model searches, and bikini contests.
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So, I was exposed, to,
not so much the adult industry
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but just knowing that I could make money
with my body.
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I had a roommate at the time,
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um, that was a dancer, and she knew
an agent, his name was Jim Salf.
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He said, "Hey, there's a producer
that saw your picture
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and he'd like you to come do a movie
how would you like to do a movie?"
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And I said, uh, well,
I've never done a movie before
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but sure, I could do it, no problem.
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I went down and I had
braids like Bo Derek
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at the time and, and
did my first scene.
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It was a three-way. I had never
even, been with a woman,
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I didn't know what to do with a woman,
I had, no idea what I was doing.
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But the minute those lights hit me,
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I swear that was
where I was supposed to be.
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Everyone said do it, do it, do it.
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And the more you do the more money you
can make dancing on the dance circuit,
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the more magazines you can do,
the more you're exposed, you can,
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I mean gosh, I have a sex toy line, now
we wanna do an action figure of you.
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Okay! I mean, all of it
was just like, cool!
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You know, sign me up! Sure!
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I was just having a blast, I mean,
there were fans
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lined up for miles and miles
and miles that flew,
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I mean some people came from
Poland and Berlin,
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and come to think of it
when I went to Poland,
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to um, sign autographs and whatever,
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I mean, when I got off the plane
I needed a body guard!
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I mean, for a porn star to be that big,
around the world,
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I mean, it was un-believable,
I mean felt like a...
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I was a true super star!
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I mean people, were knocking
each other down.
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Heeeere's Houston!!!!
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Over the Dali Lama in the newspaper,
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I was the headliner.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
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I was still under contract,
I was with Metro Productions
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for a few years,
and they're the ones that also produced
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uh, the Houston 500,
the world's biggest gang-bang.
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Um, at that point when I first signed
with Metro,
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it was already known going in
that I was gonna takeover,
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uh, Jasmine Saint-Clair's
title and do this gang-bang.
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So, going into my contract with Metro,
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I already knew that I was gonna be
doing that,
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so, I wasn't,
I wasn't looking for things to,
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oh I've gotta be more crazy and wild,
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you know honestly
it just all came to me naturally.
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Like, I mean, I had a labiaplasty,
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and that was before
a lot of women even knew
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that they can get their labia trimmed if
you have larger labia lips and you know,
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when I did that it was like, oh,
it was just a no brainer
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I'm gonna encase that in lucite
and auction it. The trimmings.
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I mean, it's just things just came
to me, I was just a publicity whore.
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I was good at it.
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I had invested my money, uh,
I bought a home,
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as well as, um, put a lot of money
in mutual funds,
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and many years ago
when the stock market went kaput,
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I lost, like, almost all my savings.
And that hurt me.
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Um, but I did still have my house
that I owned in LA,
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um, and then when things got rough
of course I sold it,
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not for financial reasons but when I
wanted to get out of the industry.
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I'm professor of communications
studies and psychology at UCLA.
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I study a variety of topics,
but one of the major areas
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that I study is pornography.
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I'm Faith, and since 1984
I've done about 600 films.
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About a thousand scenes, give or take.
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Um, I've won
several dozen awards for acting
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in sex performances
and fan favorite and this and that.
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I think it might be up,
this year for best non-sex role
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I've also moved into
the occasional character part
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that doesn't involve having sex.
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I write about the sex industry pretty much
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from the fall of 1995
until the fall of 2007.
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"The History of X:
One Hundred Years of Sex in Film"
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is the name of my first book.
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I've been in the
adult entertainment industry
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for basically 35-36 years,
in every capacity.
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I started as a writer, became an actor,
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director, agent, and now
I'm sorta the, papa bear
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to the adult entertainment industry,
protecting adult welfare,
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which I run, and, watch over
the overaged juvenile delinquents
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and what I refer
to as the playpen of the damned,
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which is the X-rated industry.
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What we give them in the adult
entertainment industry
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for a brief shiny moment is
immortality, validation, and credibility.
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Every one of us, no matter how
insignificant we may think we are,
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wants to be recognized at one
time or another in our lives,
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and when you went to those conventions
they lined up at your booth
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like they were getting
signatures from professional athletes.
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My parents divorced. My dad took us
far away from our mother,
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and ran away with us.
He became an alcoholic.
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Then I moved in with my mom and the
family relationship changed, um,
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I felt kind of lost. I worked a
regular job, um, in an office,
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for five years, but while I was doing
those things I also found um,
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a modeling website and I put
my pictures on the website,
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and then um, you know, I was still working
in the office but people were emailing me
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about doing shoots.
And I thought it would be cool to do,
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like, bikini stuff, or, even though
I never really even
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walked around in bikinis I thought
it would be, kind of neat.
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So, eventually, I did take a job, um doing,
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um, you know they were only asking me to
do nudes and eventually I just did it.
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I went to my first shoot,
in like a hotel room,
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and um, it was just supposed to be
topless, and it, was, it was really scary.
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Um...
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It was weird.
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Well ever since I,
since I got into the business,
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I always got emails, that said that
you, you don't look quite comfortable,
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and I think that it was the innocence,
that, attracted my, a lot of my fans,
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is that I didn't look totally comfortable
in anything I did,
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and even if I was speaking I didn't
look totally comfortable
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and I never looked confident, I wasn't
very verbal, I wasn't, you know,
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over the top with the noises
or anything, um.
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I dunno, I just started feeling,
really depressed about it. Honestly.
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And, then I hit rock bottom myself,
emotionally, where I um, got really upset
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and I'd go in the bathroom and
I threw a glass
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on the ground and then I um, just crying
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and fall to the ground
and just started like,
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pounding my wrists into the glass,
and blood was,
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just started going everywhere, and...
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I dunno, I just kinda lost that hope.
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I did have a stalker, um, he started
off just sending me hate-mail.
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He's an atheist, so he was pretty
much, putting down what I believe in
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and trying to get me to debate him.
He, heh, became obsessed with me
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and developed like this, crush on me. And
then I told him we would never date,
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I don't know you I don't know where you
live, you're too young, blah blah blah.
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And um, he flipped out.
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The thing that pushed me to the edge was
he said he was gonna, um, he wanted
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to bash my head into the concrete
until my brains spilled out.
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And then kill my cat and stuff like that.
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A few fans had emailed me the last year
or so and said they were praying for me
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and that they were not
looking at porn anymore,
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and, you know,
and then I had this other guy saying
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you need to put a warning on your
website because kids can see this
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my fourteen-year-old son found this,
and then...
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Just all kinds of people were like, sending
me these emails, random emails and...
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You know it uh, and of course I would,
I was always kind of sympathetic
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to whatever they said but, um,
there was some,
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you know I was still kind of hardened too,
at the same time, because I was like well,
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I can't do anything else, this is what I'm
good at. This is all that, I know.
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And, I kind of believed it at the time.
I didn't have anybody you know,
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saying, you're better than that.
So, um...
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Some adult stars do "find god" and leave,
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but those are people who needed,
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who needed to be gone anyway,
and did not have
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the personal strength to do it
and so they do look outside
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for something to help them leave.
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Um, there are plenty of people in the
business who really shouldn't be here,
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because they have conflict about...
if I was-, if I'd been raised
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to be ashamed of my body,
and to feel bad about men
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and their and the horrible desires,
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but, did porn for other reasons eventually
those two things are gonna co-,
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wheels are gonna come off the bus.
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I can only deny it so long,
people try to deny,
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they stuff their feelings with, with drugs,
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and alcohol, or whatever it is
they stuff their feelings with
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and after a six months, one year,
five year, ten years, whatever
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it finally goes you know what?
I can't do this anymore.
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Because for religion and especially
western religion, especially Christianity
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says I love you, I forgive you,
you can come home now.
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And I will not push you out.
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And so that is incredibly powerful
and incredibly potent
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to have someone finally say
I don't shame you.
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I love you. You're welcome here.
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Sign me up!
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When you're involved in this
industry you lose your humanity.
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You're no longer treated as a human being
by eighty percent of people out there.
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You're now, now scum.
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Like they maybe wanna,
do certain things with you.
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But then, you're still scum.
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And, like if, they may be thrilled
to have a roll in the sac with you
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but when they leave, when you leave
they're gonna wanna burn the sheets.
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Uh, ah, I got into porn by accident. It
wasn't something I planned on doing,
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uh, probably mighta been the, the least
likely thing I thought I woulda done.
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I was singing in bands after I, a
baseball thing didn't work out,
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uh, I knew I could sing
so I started singing in rock bands.
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And of course like all
struggling musicians you
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gotta make a little extra
dough on the side.
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It actually, my, my first naked job
I was a nude art model
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for like you know college art
classes and stuff like that.
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And I was really kinda shy
but not about my body
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just about talking
I was kinda shy about talking.
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But yeah I'd get naked in front of
people so I did that and a couple girls
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in one of the classes asked to take
some pictures of me and they did and...
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They came out pretty good and they said
can we send them to some magazines
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I said I don't care do what you want.
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And they sent'em out and and next thing
I know I got a letter from Playgirl,
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and, but High Society said they
like to do a boy/girl thing
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but I said alright.
So it was the first thing I ever did.
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And they had a woman editor and at the
end of the shoot she goes you know uh,
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I noticed you were taking care of
business pretty good,
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did you ever think about doing a porn
movie cause I got some connections.
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And I go,
I never really thought about it, no.
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She goes well you know, I think,
I can get you 250 bucks.
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Like, 250 bucks man! 1978
that was some good cash,
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that's what I was making a week!
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So I said uh,
alright I'll try it, you know.
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So I did it and uh, guess I was good
at it cause they kept calling me back.
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And uh, that's kinda how it got started.
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I, I used to say it's like borrowing
somebody's body to masturbate with.
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Uh, excuse me,
if you're not busy do you mind
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if I jerk off in your pussy with my dick?
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Uh, it's kinda like that,
which it's not bad,
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I mean you know,
better than real jerkin' off, but...
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When I first started producing up-and-
comers I get this letter in the mail
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and I open it up, and I see this
unbelievably, good-looking,
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very young looking blonde girl,
with beautiful natural boobs,
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little baby face, and she wants to know
if I can help her get in the porn biz.
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Girl's name was Jenna Jameson.
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I remember saying this
I mean holy christ
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if I get this girl to shoot for
me we're gonna sell some tapes.
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I said well if you don't wanna do guys
you know
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I'll let you pick whatever girl you want
if you wanna do that. And she liked girls.
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So she picked this girl that
I happened to be working with
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that day who was doing her first movie,
Kylie Ireland,
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so Kylie and Jenna were doing
their thing together
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and uh, everything was going good,
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and they took a little break
and while they were lying there I...
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I think I said something like,
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man Jenna that's a
tasty looking pussy you got.
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And I believe she said well why
don't you come in and taste it.
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I was...
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Okay, I was doing the camera but
I handed it to my assistant,
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Bob hold onto this, start shooting.
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So I get in there and
I start going down on her
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and she starts squealing
that little squeal that she had
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and um, I'm guessing she's kinda
liking it you know,
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and seemed like she was getting off
and everything's good
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and I said man, I am so fuckin' horny now.
348
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I said would you guys mind maybe like,
giving me a double blowjob or something?
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And they said sure, we can do that,
and I'm like... Thank you, thank you!
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And they did and it went well and
a week later she kinda called me back
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and said you know what you weren't
so bad I think I could probably do
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a boy girl thing with you and the
rest is kinda history after that.
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"It's a Daddy Thing" number three!
Old man, can make a comeback!
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Yeah!
Still there baby, no viagra yet!
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Um, and it, you know,
it's cool you do your thing,
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you go home, you came,
you relax you know but,
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I'm kind of an affectionate kinda guy,
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and so I kinda miss that part
of it and that's why
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I still like having a relationship,
when it happens, you know.
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And uh, you know for example eh,
Tera Patrick man,
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not only was she incredible in bed but
there was just, I just liked her.
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And, that that, sense of humor
and the craziness,
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a little bit different, you know.
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So, I hadn't dated anybody in so long
when I met her
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I forgot how to do it, and uh, I
did ask her out to dinner twice,
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and we went out to dinner
and we had a good time but
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I dropped her off at her place without
asking her if I could, come in.
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And I don't know eh, I might have,
she mighta thought I was weird.
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I already had sex with her
a couple of times, on camera,
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and she mighta thought it was weird that I
didn't wanna come up and finish the date,
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but I was kinda showing her that
I wasn't just there for the sex,
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and, maybe it wasn't a good move cause
you leave a beautiful woman like that
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alone for too long and
somebody else is gonna come along
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and somebody else did come
along and that was that.
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She made it today, this
is Tera Patrick. Hello.
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And uh, Tera is reasonably known in the
business and hasn't even worked that often.
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Apparently. Um.
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I was just trying to pace myself right now.
- One of my all time favorites.
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Most of the people
who seek it out don't have
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means of making that kind of money
by other means.
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I mean very few women say hmm,
I'm going to become a surgeon
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or I'm going to become a pornography star.
383
00:22:50,185 --> 00:22:53,113
This country does not raise people
with a very good work ethic.
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They don't know how to do anything else.
They don't know how to do retail,
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they don't know how to do
Excel spreadsheets.
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Many people who
make their way to adult entertainment,
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like rock-and-roll,
are not suited for nine-to-five work.
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I, ran away from home at sixteen
389
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and was living on the streets at seventeen.
390
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Uh, everything I owned
was in two garbage bags.
391
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Um, my parents were saying
I hope you just kill yourself
392
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and make life a lot easier
for the rest of us.
393
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Uh, it was just on and on and on
so there I was out on the streets
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and then, when I got taken in with a
foster family, um, I made sure that
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I kept finishing school with good grades
because that was gonna be my future
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that was gonna be my ticket outta there
and then when I went to college
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on full academic scholarship.
I never actually went to classes.
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I said okay I've got free room
and board, I need to make money.
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I need to get some sort
of security and stability
400
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in my life so I don't have to
turn tricks to get food to eat.
401
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So I took up stripping,
I went to all the local strip bars,
402
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and from there I started doing
magazines in New York City.
403
00:23:57,498 --> 00:24:00,455
I would take a train to New York
City on weekends and do magazines.
404
00:24:00,682 --> 00:24:04,621
And then, uh, a photographer said
he knew a director in California
405
00:24:04,623 --> 00:24:07,856
named Bud Lee who could direct me in
some movies if I wanted to do that.
406
00:24:07,858 --> 00:24:12,328
So um, I packed up my suitcase and
a teddy bear and went out to LA.
407
00:24:12,348 --> 00:24:16,336
Made a movie for Bud Lee, married him,
didn't come back.
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00:24:16,776 --> 00:24:19,348
The reason that I wanted to do porn,
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even though I was so smart,
Miss MENSA and all that is
410
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uh, it's precisely because
I wanted to stop being known
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as the nerd the geek the,
the one that you come over
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and you be nice to me just so you
can copy off of my tests, you know.
413
00:24:35,028 --> 00:24:37,749
I would hang out with some of my
misfit friends and they had,
414
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they had adult magazines hidden under
their bed and they would look at them
415
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and I would be peeking over their shoulder.
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00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,813
I wish someone
looked at me like that.
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And that was just like my
wildest fantasy that
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someone would think that I was
pretty and sexy and, woo!
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All my life I'd just been
the nerd and the geek.
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So it was like a fantasy
come true for me that
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someone wanted to see me on the cover
of a magazine.
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00:24:58,181 --> 00:24:59,947
When I got to porn it was like
423
00:25:00,013 --> 00:25:03,126
wait, I get to pick which one of these
good-looking guys I wanna sleep with?
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And uh, you're gonna pay me for it
425
00:25:04,882 --> 00:25:07,659
and then you're gonna put me on a box
cover and give me tons of money?
426
00:25:07,741 --> 00:25:11,129
It was just uh, a really big step
up from where I was coming from.
427
00:25:11,784 --> 00:25:14,867
Porn wasn't all that much of a mental
challenge for me shall we say, um,
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standing there and saying
my silly lines just,
429
00:25:18,730 --> 00:25:20,713
it didn't take up a
whole lot of my day
430
00:25:20,985 --> 00:25:23,864
so meanwhile you got a lot
of time to sit around and wait
431
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:27,010
so uh, I just kept myself busy
by learning every single job on the set.
432
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Um, I... I would get the grips
to take me down to the grip truck
433
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,437
and show me the names of everything on
there and teach me how to do everything
434
00:25:35,439 --> 00:25:38,762
by showing up with my little grip belt and
my shorts and my gloves and no shirt on.
435
00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:42,845
And I would ask very nicely if they
would teach me their job and they did,
436
00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:47,421
and, much the same way I learned editing,
directing, producing, scriptwriting,
437
00:25:47,757 --> 00:25:50,119
um, every job on the set I've gotten.
438
00:25:50,595 --> 00:25:53,763
If you look on IMDB my name has got all
credits next to it I did everything.
439
00:25:54,349 --> 00:25:56,825
I even designed my own box covers.
440
00:25:57,427 --> 00:26:00,507
Um, what made me different was
I was the first half-asian
441
00:26:00,509 --> 00:26:02,974
to become an A-list star in the business.
442
00:26:04,005 --> 00:26:05,934
Um, before I'd started
there was the white girls
443
00:26:05,936 --> 00:26:09,079
and the black girls and the asian girls
and each had their own separate genre,
444
00:26:09,131 --> 00:26:13,542
and, they didn't mix, you, you don't put
an asian girl in a white girl movie.
445
00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:15,176
It's just the way it was.
446
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:17,496
And then when I came in
and I was only half-asian
447
00:26:17,509 --> 00:26:20,309
the features were soft enough that
they could still put me on a cover
448
00:26:20,334 --> 00:26:23,684
and I could still be a white girl, or and
asian girl, they could play me either way.
449
00:26:23,765 --> 00:26:26,919
Or they could play me as an Indian
or a Gypsy, or, Greek girl!
450
00:26:26,921 --> 00:26:28,502
They gave me all the different roles.
451
00:26:28,504 --> 00:26:31,569
So they just, they wound up using
my look as very versatile.
452
00:26:31,571 --> 00:26:35,269
And so I became the first "cross-over"
star from a minority,
453
00:26:35,271 --> 00:26:37,352
and then uh, I guess
they did pretty well with me
454
00:26:37,354 --> 00:26:40,653
cause after I left Vivid they got
Koby Tie, who was full asian, so,
455
00:26:40,946 --> 00:26:44,706
I kinda opened the door
for the minorities to become A-listers.
456
00:26:44,708 --> 00:26:46,857
I, I hated doing live appearance.
457
00:26:46,859 --> 00:26:49,971
Oh I'm getting sweaty just looking
at this picture. Yeah.
458
00:26:50,207 --> 00:26:52,850
I spent like all year long
dreading the CES Show.
459
00:26:52,904 --> 00:26:54,833
I would just have to keep telling myself
460
00:26:54,835 --> 00:26:57,566
they're more scared than you are,
they're more scared than you are.
461
00:26:57,803 --> 00:27:01,028
Cause I'd smile and I'd say "So what's
your name?" and they'd go...
462
00:27:01,975 --> 00:27:04,624
they'd just look at me.
Okay what's your name?!
463
00:27:05,573 --> 00:27:08,716
If you see my very first interviews from
when I was nineteen, twenty years old,
464
00:27:08,718 --> 00:27:10,615
I said I'm gonna retire when I'm thirty.
465
00:27:10,617 --> 00:27:13,224
And people would laugh and say oh
you've got it all planned out.
466
00:27:13,226 --> 00:27:15,043
There really wasn't any question about it.
467
00:27:15,457 --> 00:27:19,167
I had, gotten married, and, then divorced.
468
00:27:19,628 --> 00:27:23,432
And I met someone who had adult bookstores.
469
00:27:23,434 --> 00:27:26,104
So I basically got my introduction
470
00:27:26,106 --> 00:27:30,182
to the adult entertainment world
through working in adult bookstores,
471
00:27:30,514 --> 00:27:35,285
and then consequently owning adult
bookstores and I saw the women
472
00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:39,612
that were doing movies at the time and,
I was just,
473
00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:43,831
amazed, because,
they had pimples on their rear-ends,
474
00:27:43,833 --> 00:27:46,782
they had on no makeup,
their feet were dirty,
475
00:27:46,784 --> 00:27:49,707
their hair was dirty, and I thought my god,
476
00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:52,411
this is not a really good
representation of women.
477
00:27:52,578 --> 00:27:54,089
I wanna do that.
478
00:27:54,091 --> 00:28:01,795
I mean I had done, um, a few magazines
and a few uh, like, 8 mm loops,
479
00:28:01,797 --> 00:28:06,469
and then I came to California, and I
picked up one of the free papers and,
480
00:28:06,471 --> 00:28:07,965
there was an ad.
481
00:28:07,967 --> 00:28:12,067
My family was very, very okay
with what I did because
482
00:28:12,283 --> 00:28:17,273
I did tell them what I was about to
do before I actually did anything.
483
00:28:17,714 --> 00:28:22,916
I mean I'd done a couple of photo shoots,
and decided that I needed to tell my family
484
00:28:22,918 --> 00:28:26,304
before it got out there
because I didn't want
485
00:28:26,306 --> 00:28:28,537
them finding out from someone else.
486
00:28:28,611 --> 00:28:32,234
And they're like well do, you
think you can make money at it?
487
00:28:32,236 --> 00:28:34,766
You think you can have a good career
and be happy doing this?
488
00:28:34,768 --> 00:28:38,072
And I said yes I do, and they said good,
go do it.
489
00:28:39,150 --> 00:28:42,564
We had a very small community of people,
490
00:28:42,965 --> 00:28:46,303
of players, that we all worked with.
491
00:28:46,305 --> 00:28:48,916
And we all worked with
each other quite a bit.
492
00:28:49,486 --> 00:28:54,626
So the community was small, we were
familiar with one another, and, we actu...
493
00:28:54,628 --> 00:28:59,719
it's like when you, have a, a new boyfriend
or new girlfriend or a new husband or wife,
494
00:28:59,721 --> 00:29:02,599
it takes a little while
before you know what
495
00:29:02,601 --> 00:29:04,734
pushes their buttons, what turns them on
496
00:29:04,736 --> 00:29:08,543
what makes them feel good,
and then it starts
497
00:29:08,628 --> 00:29:14,001
to become very intimate,
and, you can actually,
498
00:29:14,301 --> 00:29:18,056
have an intimate relationship with the
person you're working with on screen,
499
00:29:18,481 --> 00:29:20,682
and be fond of them
after the movie is over.
500
00:29:21,492 --> 00:29:25,767
Um, but they're just
generally sweet nice people.
501
00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:33,073
I was being offered parts in movies,
in, or photo shoots or what have you,
502
00:29:33,075 --> 00:29:37,274
and they didn't want to pay me
the amount of money I wanted,
503
00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:40,452
and I said no. I just, I held out.
504
00:29:41,007 --> 00:29:45,612
So, um, and subsequently
I started stripping,
505
00:29:45,614 --> 00:29:49,651
going across the,
basically across the world stripping.
506
00:29:49,876 --> 00:29:53,948
And uh, doing photo shoots
with Club Magazine predominantly.
507
00:29:54,572 --> 00:29:57,256
And um, so they didn't see me in front,
508
00:29:57,258 --> 00:30:00,530
people didn't see me in front of the camera
so they thought okay, she's retired.
509
00:30:01,168 --> 00:30:03,619
I've been retired and come back
so many times
510
00:30:03,662 --> 00:30:07,223
I can't keep track anymore. I've
also been dead a few times.
511
00:30:09,665 --> 00:30:12,906
I saw an add in the paper it said
"Nude fun, big bucks."
512
00:30:12,908 --> 00:30:15,709
and uh, it was an audition
for an X-rated movie.
513
00:30:15,711 --> 00:30:17,826
Two days later I get a call
from the producer,
514
00:30:18,058 --> 00:30:19,701
they wanna give me a part in the movie.
515
00:30:19,703 --> 00:30:21,678
I hadn't planned on that.
516
00:30:21,888 --> 00:30:27,925
At the time, I had applied to the
Hebrew Union Seminary in Cincinnati,
517
00:30:27,927 --> 00:30:31,070
where they uh, train
people to become Rabbis.
518
00:30:31,499 --> 00:30:35,028
So I'm trying to measure,
do I wanna do this,
519
00:30:35,030 --> 00:30:36,955
or do I wanna be in a porn movie
because it seems
520
00:30:36,957 --> 00:30:38,923
if I take the part in the porn
movie I maybe,
521
00:30:39,525 --> 00:30:43,241
um, cutting some of my options off,
for future life.
522
00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:48,255
And the uh, seminary in Cincinnati
said we'll take you
523
00:30:48,257 --> 00:30:53,079
but the first two years you have to go to
Jerusalem and study Aramaic, which,
524
00:30:53,081 --> 00:30:56,910
I would rather go to Cleveland
and study their sewer system.
525
00:30:56,912 --> 00:30:59,122
Um, no interest there.
526
00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:01,560
So I decided I would make the porn movie.
527
00:31:01,562 --> 00:31:05,078
And, in any case the kind of Rabbi
I would become,
528
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,489
would be the kind that
could've made a porn movie.
529
00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:10,310
And uh, I went ahead and did the job.
530
00:31:10,373 --> 00:31:14,775
I think I had to become a sex
star just to come back to normal!
531
00:31:14,777 --> 00:31:18,751
Cause I'd been so humiliated
by being the fat kid!
532
00:31:18,753 --> 00:31:21,391
I had the largest breasts
in the seventh grade!
533
00:31:21,393 --> 00:31:25,087
The guys would make fun of me
and point at me and tease me!
534
00:31:25,089 --> 00:31:28,761
Do you know how deep those scars go?!
That's ugly shit!
535
00:31:28,763 --> 00:31:31,552
Those are the people that
become centerfolds!
536
00:31:31,554 --> 00:31:33,209
Cause they got something to prove.
537
00:31:33,211 --> 00:31:37,599
I was lucky enough to uh,
be in the era when they were
538
00:31:37,601 --> 00:31:40,260
actually trying to make movies where
you needed to remember lines.
539
00:31:40,262 --> 00:31:42,598
And I had the, I was good at that.
540
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:48,002
So, I got hired for my acting ability,
which being a good actor in porn,
541
00:31:48,231 --> 00:31:51,665
is like being the wisest man
in the kingdom of the fools.
542
00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:54,441
He promised that I could fuck you next.
- He what?!
543
00:31:55,545 --> 00:31:58,001
Gah!
Ow!
544
00:31:58,796 --> 00:32:01,956
Let him alone! I
said let him alone!
545
00:32:01,958 --> 00:32:04,556
Ow! Ah, oh uh!
546
00:32:04,997 --> 00:32:08,884
Get the fuck outta here!
- My ankle! Ow, my ankle!
547
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:11,117
I was terrible at the sex.
548
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:13,831
Just rotten!
I was just so traumatized by it.
549
00:32:13,835 --> 00:32:17,976
But I eventually did learn
how to have sex on camera.
550
00:32:17,978 --> 00:32:21,571
I was on the beach in San Diego
and uh, I was by myself.
551
00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:26,397
And I'm sitting there, and I notice
there's a really beautiful woman,
552
00:32:26,886 --> 00:32:31,694
laying on a towel and so my gaze drifts
over to her and her boyfriend looks at me
553
00:32:31,696 --> 00:32:33,894
and sees her... and I look away.
554
00:32:33,896 --> 00:32:36,508
And then eventually I'd drift back
and I'm looking at her again
555
00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:39,147
and the boyfriend sees me looking
at her again and I'm like shit.
556
00:32:39,149 --> 00:32:43,101
Well the guy gets up, and he starts
walkin' over towards me
557
00:32:43,103 --> 00:32:46,149
and I'm going Oh no! Here we go.
558
00:32:46,151 --> 00:32:47,620
You know, this is gonna get ugly.
559
00:32:47,622 --> 00:32:52,263
And he gets close to me and I, I'm just
clenching my fist ready to defend myself.
560
00:32:52,265 --> 00:32:56,875
The guy's a monster, I'm gonna get killed,
I know it, and he leans in and he says
561
00:32:56,877 --> 00:33:01,623
"Were you in Insatiable?"
And I went YES! YES!
562
00:33:01,625 --> 00:33:04,558
I was so happy that's what it was,
he recognized me from the movie
563
00:33:04,568 --> 00:33:07,610
business and he wasn't gonna kick
my ass it was a true delight.
564
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,095
A true delight.
We became friends at that point.
565
00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:12,222
I hadn't told my parents that
I was doing this.
566
00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:17,369
I told them I had, was doing commercials
and low-budget nothing, and,
567
00:33:18,671 --> 00:33:22,207
well, that I,
I knew that they weren't gonna be.
568
00:33:22,325 --> 00:33:25,326
I didn't suspect they would be very
approving of this kinda stuff.
569
00:33:25,916 --> 00:33:30,590
I made the original call prepared to
become the black sheep of the family.
570
00:33:30,592 --> 00:33:35,107
It didn't happen.
I'm sure they were less than thrilled.
571
00:33:35,903 --> 00:33:39,541
When my mother would be at the grocery
store the next day and they say
572
00:33:39,543 --> 00:33:41,648
"Good to see you, how you doing?
573
00:33:41,739 --> 00:33:45,309
What's going on? " " Well! My son
the doctor's coming back from Israel,
574
00:33:45,311 --> 00:33:49,106
and my other son,
he makes shmackle movies in California!"
575
00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:56,112
Well I think people may have a negative
reaction to someone who's a porn star
576
00:33:56,114 --> 00:33:59,391
for a combination of reasons.
577
00:33:59,393 --> 00:34:04,388
One is, somebody who seems to indiscriminately
be willing to sleep with anyone,
578
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:09,389
whether it's on film or not,
is, no matter what people say,
579
00:34:09,597 --> 00:34:13,043
still not somebody who's
particularly admired and,
580
00:34:13,045 --> 00:34:17,277
again may pose a threat
to many relationships.
581
00:34:17,279 --> 00:34:20,776
It is legal work, but it's fucking.
582
00:34:21,843 --> 00:34:23,707
With pictures.
583
00:34:23,709 --> 00:34:26,377
People say
"you should, should go into politics"
584
00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:28,406
There's too many pictures
with dicks in my ass,
585
00:34:28,408 --> 00:34:30,276
it's like, it's not going to happen.
586
00:34:30,278 --> 00:34:32,675
It happened by happenstance.
587
00:34:32,677 --> 00:34:36,342
I came up with some friends
and I went to a club
588
00:34:36,344 --> 00:34:41,247
called The Rainbow, and,
I met there Althea Flint,
589
00:34:41,249 --> 00:34:44,968
the wife of Larry Flint,
and a photographer that
590
00:34:44,970 --> 00:34:48,781
she had in tow, and they approached me
and invited me
591
00:34:48,783 --> 00:34:52,481
to their table, and asked me
if I wanted to go to a club
592
00:34:52,483 --> 00:34:54,796
and have some drinks and I did.
593
00:34:54,798 --> 00:34:57,123
And she was, doing an interview for Sting,
594
00:34:57,125 --> 00:35:00,227
and we were up there looking
to meet some rockstars,
595
00:35:00,229 --> 00:35:03,326
you know, we were just girls.
Doing our thing.
596
00:35:03,328 --> 00:35:07,067
And she took us in her limo,
she had this black limo that
597
00:35:07,069 --> 00:35:09,472
had this Think Pink
on the license plate and this,
598
00:35:09,474 --> 00:35:11,743
I think it was a naked lady
on the side of it.
599
00:35:11,745 --> 00:35:13,777
And I was so impressed by that.
600
00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:17,309
She said what do you do and I said
I'm a model and she said -Wow!
601
00:35:17,392 --> 00:35:21,508
I sh... you know, I, I own Hustler Magazine
and we're gonna put you in Hustler.
602
00:35:21,542 --> 00:35:23,164
So, that was that!
603
00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:27,676
Um, I went into Hustler and um,
started doing magazines.
604
00:35:28,252 --> 00:35:32,079
My brother found out and, he had tried
to talk me into it many times,
605
00:35:32,081 --> 00:35:34,365
because everybody always said Hey Buck!
606
00:35:34,367 --> 00:35:36,472
Can you get your sister to do a movie
oh my god!
607
00:35:36,474 --> 00:35:40,085
And, um, you know,
we never worked together,
608
00:35:40,087 --> 00:35:44,387
on set, but, we always
championed each other's careers.
609
00:35:44,389 --> 00:35:48,619
And so my brother said to me,
um, I want you to do a movie.
610
00:35:48,621 --> 00:35:50,672
And he set it up with Sin City,
611
00:35:50,674 --> 00:35:54,146
it was actually done for Sin City
and it was called Babewatch,
612
00:35:54,243 --> 00:35:56,637
and it was for my brother's
Babewatch series, cause he said
613
00:35:56,645 --> 00:36:00,810
if you're gonna do movies for anybody, you
have to do, you have to do one for me, sis,
614
00:36:01,275 --> 00:36:02,871
so I said okay I will.
615
00:36:02,898 --> 00:36:05,195
And the sex was real, you know,
616
00:36:05,197 --> 00:36:10,253
you'd say, how do you want the blow-job?
And he'd say, how do you like the blowjob?
617
00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:13,834
And that would be it, you know and
that, we would build off of that.
618
00:36:13,836 --> 00:36:17,237
You know, I was the kinda person,
it, I lived a life of excess,
619
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,855
and people would invite me to
parties, and they would think Wow!
620
00:36:21,857 --> 00:36:27,304
If I offer her some party tools, then,
I'm gonna have my night set up,
621
00:36:27,306 --> 00:36:30,458
I'm gonna wind up getting laid all
night by this beautiful porn star.
622
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:33,494
And then as my addiction
went through another door,
623
00:36:34,427 --> 00:36:37,476
they'd hand me the bag of coke and I'd
wind up in the bathroom all night
624
00:36:37,478 --> 00:36:40,144
you know, and you wouldn't be able
to drag me out of the bathroom
625
00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:42,762
and I'd be like don't touch me!
And oh!
626
00:36:43,123 --> 00:36:47,885
And all of my life
started to kind of spiral.
627
00:36:47,887 --> 00:36:51,416
I wound up getting arrested, um,
on the highway,
628
00:36:51,418 --> 00:36:56,486
and the police knew exactly
who I was, when I got arrested,
629
00:36:56,488 --> 00:37:00,431
and, they wanted to make an
example of me with the court system.
630
00:37:00,433 --> 00:37:05,727
They knew that I was, you know, a big
porn star, and um, the gig was up.
631
00:37:05,729 --> 00:37:07,516
And I had to face it.
632
00:37:07,518 --> 00:37:10,796
And it was the greatest thing that ever
happened to me when I look back on it now,
633
00:37:10,864 --> 00:37:13,895
because it really brought me into reality.
634
00:37:14,923 --> 00:37:18,360
For the women,
they're much more damned by society
635
00:37:18,362 --> 00:37:20,780
because no matter how
sanctified they are,
636
00:37:21,295 --> 00:37:24,857
they're still considered to be whores, and
it's getting worse and worse and worse
637
00:37:24,925 --> 00:37:29,079
because a lot of them have turned to,
what I am vehemently opposed to,
638
00:37:29,164 --> 00:37:31,791
the escort services,
to further their career.
639
00:37:31,793 --> 00:37:36,103
In many ways,
it has a dehumanizing quality,
640
00:37:36,262 --> 00:37:42,647
because what you're responding
to are a set of, physical cues.
641
00:37:43,151 --> 00:37:45,565
You are responding to the body,
642
00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:48,771
and you're responding
to the sexual acts per say
643
00:37:48,773 --> 00:37:51,879
in a way that is quite animalistic.
644
00:37:51,881 --> 00:37:57,804
And, having a more full depiction
of the person
645
00:37:57,806 --> 00:38:03,851
may even detract from the
ability to use it purely
646
00:38:03,853 --> 00:38:07,417
as masturbatory or other
kind of sexual stimulation.
647
00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:12,062
You can take every other category,
every other idea, every other thought.
648
00:38:12,064 --> 00:38:15,536
Basically happiness and success in life
all boils down
649
00:38:15,538 --> 00:38:18,054
to what are the quality of your bonds
with other people.
650
00:38:18,056 --> 00:38:21,410
Having anything to do with the a
dult industry hacks away those bonds,
651
00:38:21,412 --> 00:38:25,749
so you're isolated, alienated,
um, pushed away to the margins,
652
00:38:25,751 --> 00:38:27,672
and not treated as a human being.
653
00:38:27,738 --> 00:38:31,104
That's a recipe for disaster,
for me and for anyone else.
654
00:38:31,669 --> 00:38:35,144
Um, when I was in college a couple of us
on the dance team worked at Hooters
655
00:38:35,462 --> 00:38:37,635
so I was working at Hooters,
I love doing that,
656
00:38:37,637 --> 00:38:41,161
a lot of the girls at Hooters were telling me
how I would make a lot of money stripping
657
00:38:41,170 --> 00:38:44,082
and then I had a boyfriend in college
who brought me,
658
00:38:44,084 --> 00:38:46,365
I went with him and his friends
to a strip club one night
659
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:48,417
because they always used to go
watch amateur night.
660
00:38:48,418 --> 00:38:51,137
He's like I think you could win,
I think you could beat these girls
661
00:38:51,187 --> 00:38:54,367
at amateur night. So I entered and I won,
I got first place out of twelve girls
662
00:38:54,448 --> 00:38:56,929
in the amateur contest,
and I got $500.
663
00:38:57,011 --> 00:39:01,406
So I was like this is a really cool job I
get to drink, and dance and make money.
664
00:39:01,588 --> 00:39:03,726
This is way better than
anything else I can imagine.
665
00:39:03,728 --> 00:39:06,986
When I was twenty-one I used to watch
a lot of those cinemaX movies
666
00:39:06,988 --> 00:39:10,847
and so I went to uh, Blockbuster
and I got the address off the box
667
00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:14,207
of a cinemaX movie and I mailed
some Polaroids of myself
668
00:39:14,209 --> 00:39:18,026
and a a few headshots I had taken, um,
like, and just pictures and I mailed it
669
00:39:18,028 --> 00:39:21,199
and I wrote this letter about how I think
I'd really like to be in the movies.
670
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,107
And I heard nothing
and then three months later
671
00:39:23,156 --> 00:39:24,626
I actually got a call from Playboy.
672
00:39:24,651 --> 00:39:27,380
Coming to this industry I pretty much
came into it thinking okay
673
00:39:27,382 --> 00:39:31,455
I'm going to somehow be one of the
most well-known pornstars of all time.
674
00:39:31,504 --> 00:39:34,889
I wouldn't wanna come into it and just be
another girl that was around for two years
675
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:39,089
and then have to go be a hooker. You know.
After I did the Hus-the Playboy thing,
676
00:39:39,091 --> 00:39:41,972
um, I shot for Hustler,
the next month I came out to LA,
677
00:39:41,974 --> 00:39:44,524
um, within three weeks after
shooting for Hustler,
678
00:39:44,526 --> 00:39:47,584
um, his wife and his dau-uh his sister,
679
00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:49,579
or, his daughter,
told me how much they loved me
680
00:39:49,581 --> 00:39:51,998
and they ended up taking me
on the Larry Flint Freedom Tour.
681
00:39:52,003 --> 00:39:54,291
They chose four girls to go
with Larry Flint
682
00:39:54,406 --> 00:39:57,293
to like different Hustler stores
on the freedom tour and they chose me
683
00:39:57,295 --> 00:40:00,262
and then Hustler had me, my very
first day being on the show um,
684
00:40:00,338 --> 00:40:02,047
a Hustler chose me to sign at their booth,
685
00:40:02,049 --> 00:40:04,249
cause they don't have contract
girls they pick girls.
686
00:40:04,251 --> 00:40:06,308
And then a month later there was
a Magic Convention
687
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:08,909
which is a clothing convention
and Hustler was launching
688
00:40:08,923 --> 00:40:12,275
their clothing and Hustler had chosen me
to be the model of their clothing
689
00:40:12,277 --> 00:40:14,408
and they made, you know,
pictures of me modeling it.
690
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:16,348
So I really didn't think about
life after porn
691
00:40:16,443 --> 00:40:19,734
because I just couldn't believe how
like, all these things kept happening.
692
00:40:19,757 --> 00:40:21,979
I mean just the things that
happened to me as a new girl
693
00:40:21,981 --> 00:40:25,193
in porn don't happen to most new
girls I mean, I met Larry Flint um,
694
00:40:25,195 --> 00:40:27,606
pretty much my
second month in the business.
695
00:40:27,694 --> 00:40:30,628
So I didn't think about life after.
I just said... I just always said
696
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:33,344
I'm gonna get married and have kids.
I used to say by twenty-seven.
697
00:40:33,346 --> 00:40:36,507
Now I say I wanna get married by
thirty and have kids by thirty-two.
698
00:40:36,849 --> 00:40:38,581
While I was married
I only did girl-girl.
699
00:40:38,583 --> 00:40:40,424
I left my husband and did boy-girl.
700
00:40:40,426 --> 00:40:44,675
Um, when I got back with my husband
at kickass I only did girl-girl again,
701
00:40:44,677 --> 00:40:46,951
we split up,
I did boy-girl, heh!
702
00:40:46,998 --> 00:40:49,660
Then I took like a hiatus for
about six-seven months
703
00:40:49,662 --> 00:40:52,127
and didn't shoot anything. And
that's when I met this guy,
704
00:40:52,129 --> 00:40:54,904
um, who's my, ended up becoming
my fiance, but we were dating,
705
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:58,109
and I didn't do boy-girl when I was
with him for the first six months,
706
00:40:58,111 --> 00:41:01,270
and then he was like, don't you think
you should go get a new porn contract
707
00:41:01,322 --> 00:41:03,771
because that's extra income
we can have every month.
708
00:41:03,773 --> 00:41:06,266
And I was like well, you want
me to have sex with other guys?
709
00:41:06,458 --> 00:41:08,442
And he was like well,
it's only six times a year
710
00:41:08,444 --> 00:41:10,844
you're gonna do it, and it's with
a condom. I was like okay.
711
00:41:10,868 --> 00:41:12,736
Then of course, like,
two days before the movie
712
00:41:12,738 --> 00:41:15,109
my ex was like, I don't want you
having sex with other guys.
713
00:41:15,243 --> 00:41:16,954
Arrrrg! Arr!
- Let go of me!
714
00:41:16,956 --> 00:41:19,828
Your derri`ere may be pretty,
but that don't mean
715
00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:22,643
it's bull-worked from
a promiscuous lashing.
716
00:41:26,907 --> 00:41:29,453
Every two-and-a-half months
I'd have to shoot a boy-girl scene
717
00:41:29,492 --> 00:41:32,715
and er-usually about two days before
he would start being really mean to me,
718
00:41:32,717 --> 00:41:34,124
and calling me names,
719
00:41:34,126 --> 00:41:36,485
even though he was the one
who wanted me to do the movies.
720
00:41:36,487 --> 00:41:38,334
Then, on the day when I'd go
to shoot the movie
721
00:41:38,336 --> 00:41:40,423
he'd go out with his friends
and get really drunk,
722
00:41:40,472 --> 00:41:42,746
then he usually would not kiss me
or anything for two days later
723
00:41:42,795 --> 00:41:44,900
and then when my check would
come in he's like that's my check,
724
00:41:44,953 --> 00:41:46,633
since I let you have
sex with other people.
725
00:41:46,644 --> 00:41:47,928
And then when I would be asleep sometimes,
726
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:50,257
I'd be asleep and I'd hear
him watching my movies.
727
00:41:50,302 --> 00:41:52,372
He'd go and put it in like slow motion
728
00:41:52,374 --> 00:41:54,938
and make sure the guy wore a condom
and I wasn't lying about it.
729
00:41:54,942 --> 00:41:56,457
Um, let's see.
730
00:41:56,459 --> 00:41:59,541
The most I ever made in a month was
probably when I was running for governor
731
00:41:59,543 --> 00:42:02,228
because my website was making
around twenty-thousand a month
732
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:04,419
and then my online store
selling t-shirts and buttons
733
00:42:04,421 --> 00:42:06,690
made about ten-fifteen thousand a month,
734
00:42:06,764 --> 00:42:09,424
and, I felt really bad cause I didn't
have time to mail'em all out
735
00:42:09,495 --> 00:42:11,507
so I just ended up not
mailing people their orders.
736
00:42:11,571 --> 00:42:12,872
I feel really bad about that.
737
00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:15,367
Um, and then my contract was
six thousand a month
738
00:42:15,374 --> 00:42:18,577
and I was feature dancing, at that time
feature dancing used to pay a lot more.
739
00:42:18,757 --> 00:42:21,159
That was like, six thousand for like,
three weeks.
740
00:42:21,161 --> 00:42:23,887
I dunno how much that is, maybe
like 50, 60 thousand in a month.
741
00:42:23,975 --> 00:42:25,133
That's probably the most.
742
00:42:25,135 --> 00:42:27,149
And then I won a game show
around that same time.
743
00:42:27,168 --> 00:42:29,494
I won a game show Who Wants to be
Governor of California?
744
00:42:29,515 --> 00:42:31,978
I won another twenty-one thousand.
Um, that was great.
745
00:42:32,354 --> 00:42:35,414
Um, I guess the most in the year would
probably be around 300 thousand.
746
00:42:35,426 --> 00:42:37,420
I mean I don't think I thought
I was set for life
747
00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:39,363
I always used to joke
with everyone that um,
748
00:42:39,590 --> 00:42:42,557
I'm either going to,
just make a lot of money
749
00:42:42,621 --> 00:42:45,393
or I might worst case scenario
I'll marry a rich person.
750
00:42:45,419 --> 00:42:47,059
That's what I always said.
751
00:42:49,691 --> 00:42:53,433
No one comes into this business to
wanna be normal on the back end of it.
752
00:42:53,435 --> 00:42:55,387
Nobody thinks that it's gonna end.
753
00:42:55,389 --> 00:42:58,171
You jump on a merry-go-round
you hope the ride never ends.
754
00:42:58,173 --> 00:43:00,687
I don't think many of them can spell
the word future.
755
00:43:00,689 --> 00:43:03,882
I don't think they did this as a short
term investment in their own future,
756
00:43:04,284 --> 00:43:05,459
but they burned out.
757
00:43:05,722 --> 00:43:06,862
Hookers are hookers.
758
00:43:06,864 --> 00:43:10,091
I mean hookers are people
who are looking for a quick buck
759
00:43:10,093 --> 00:43:12,949
with the least amount of effort
so they turn tricks.
760
00:43:12,951 --> 00:43:16,473
And, uh, being a porn star is just like,
761
00:43:16,475 --> 00:43:19,073
uh, you know the,
the world's oldest profession
762
00:43:19,075 --> 00:43:23,515
so, it's, it's not that complicated,
763
00:43:24,312 --> 00:43:26,422
uh, reality is hard.
764
00:43:26,424 --> 00:43:29,297
A lot of people blame,
blame the industry for their problems
765
00:43:29,299 --> 00:43:32,263
but, uh, then they get out
in the real world and find,
766
00:43:32,265 --> 00:43:34,783
lots of problems in the real world too.
767
00:43:35,855 --> 00:43:37,450
I grew up in Pensilvania, um,
768
00:43:38,869 --> 00:43:41,033
in the steel-mill towns.
769
00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:44,089
Worked in the steel-mills, I drove cabs,
770
00:43:44,091 --> 00:43:46,602
it was sorta typical things, uh, people do.
771
00:43:46,604 --> 00:43:49,049
There I did some
illustrations for magazines,
772
00:43:49,404 --> 00:43:53,550
in New York and eventually,
started playing uh, music.
773
00:43:53,552 --> 00:43:55,338
Did that for a while.
774
00:43:56,179 --> 00:43:59,831
And then I came out to California and
end up getting into dirty movies.
775
00:44:00,791 --> 00:44:02,196
Just met some people.
776
00:44:02,198 --> 00:44:04,822
Actually I was gonna do a uh,
a photo spread,
777
00:44:04,868 --> 00:44:07,792
I was gonna do some photography of
some girls who were in the business.
778
00:44:07,841 --> 00:44:10,936
I had an idea I would do a photo shoot
of them and then a little interview.
779
00:44:11,604 --> 00:44:15,418
And, some people I knew from
illustrating magazines in New York said
780
00:44:15,498 --> 00:44:18,668
yeah, we'll see what you come up with,
if it's good we'll pay you and everything
781
00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:23,097
so I met the... these two girls,
and, before I knew it, uh,
782
00:44:23,099 --> 00:44:25,390
I was, in the movies!
783
00:44:25,607 --> 00:44:27,623
So that's sorta how that started.
784
00:44:27,625 --> 00:44:31,633
But you know when I was working it was,
it wasn't like it is today, it was,
785
00:44:31,635 --> 00:44:35,915
I'd maybe work forty days a year and
maybe 15 to 20 days were sex days.
786
00:44:35,917 --> 00:44:39,389
And today they work every day of the week.
Maybe twice a day.
787
00:44:39,906 --> 00:44:42,875
You know, viagra shootin' up their cocks
and stuff like that
788
00:44:42,877 --> 00:44:46,499
I mean it's just they're
ruining their sex life
789
00:44:46,501 --> 00:44:48,649
for the rest of their lives,
I'm telling ya!
790
00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:50,802
I just think there's too much going on,
791
00:44:50,804 --> 00:44:53,079
I mean just your personal appetite of it.
792
00:44:53,085 --> 00:44:55,758
I mean, if you're working as a performer
793
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,843
and you're working that much I mean,
sex loses it's mystery in it's sense
794
00:44:58,845 --> 00:45:03,413
and it's, I mean I remember being turned on
to a point some times, certain situations
795
00:45:03,415 --> 00:45:05,442
where I would actually shake.
796
00:45:05,444 --> 00:45:07,742
I mean I'm sure everybody's
been in that situation
797
00:45:07,744 --> 00:45:10,327
and now that, I hate to see that go away.
798
00:45:10,329 --> 00:45:12,757
I remember one time my dad
picked me up from the airport,
799
00:45:13,775 --> 00:45:17,086
and I was coming in for the holidays
and he's, and he-
800
00:45:17,088 --> 00:45:19,740
I had, my pictures
were in Hustler magazine eh,
801
00:45:19,742 --> 00:45:23,737
they were on, about a movie
and, and I think I was
802
00:45:24,369 --> 00:45:26,500
I was giving some girl head!
803
00:45:27,577 --> 00:45:31,554
And my father says,
"I saw that picture in Hustler."
804
00:45:32,034 --> 00:45:37,134
I said uh, yeah, picture, that,
wasn't so good of a picture.
805
00:45:37,641 --> 00:45:42,395
And that's all was said!
They never wa... It was not something
806
00:45:42,397 --> 00:45:46,642
I wanted to expose them to because it wa...
you know it it, it's embarrassing for them.
807
00:45:46,932 --> 00:45:50,031
We were so proud of what we did in
some of these movies we did that were...
808
00:45:50,033 --> 00:45:52,755
that were, that got really big play,
809
00:45:52,757 --> 00:45:54,928
that I actually took her to screenings.
810
00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:56,923
We had these screenings in these theaters.
811
00:45:57,349 --> 00:46:00,534
And I'm taking my wife there watching
me have sex with these people
812
00:46:00,983 --> 00:46:07,418
And, she was, it was difficult
for her but, she appreciated
813
00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:10,448
the work we were doing,
but after one or two times
814
00:46:10,450 --> 00:46:14,440
it was like... or we did that, I
said hey we don't do this no more!
815
00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:16,965
She didn't wanna see any
pictures of me or anything.
816
00:46:16,967 --> 00:46:19,058
Although she understood what
I was doing and knew
817
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:22,471
it was the thing that was not gonna be,
a situation.
818
00:46:23,439 --> 00:46:27,366
Can I ask you something? Those cops,
they're hung pretty good, huh?
819
00:46:28,626 --> 00:46:30,611
Bet they ain't got what I got.
820
00:46:34,366 --> 00:46:36,501
Nobody's got what I got.
821
00:46:38,201 --> 00:46:40,593
So, yeah, I'd like to retire and paint.
822
00:46:41,208 --> 00:46:44,793
If I had a game plan. I saved some
money but I wasn't that good.
823
00:46:44,795 --> 00:46:47,553
No... I didn't make
that much money though.
824
00:46:47,555 --> 00:46:49,833
Come on, what'd I make? I mean
I, didn't work that much.
825
00:46:49,835 --> 00:46:52,635
You talking about when you were acting?
Save money when he was acting?!
826
00:46:52,686 --> 00:46:55,774
He just didn't have any bills.
I didn't have any bills. See I told you
827
00:46:55,776 --> 00:46:58,826
I didn't have any bills...
And then he got me! Ha ha...
828
00:46:58,828 --> 00:47:01,752
Then she showed up!
- I'm a high maintenance, baby.
829
00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:03,315
Then she showed up...
830
00:47:03,970 --> 00:47:07,142
Even if it's not particularly
glamorous that day,
831
00:47:07,968 --> 00:47:11,006
you go to work and you get fussed over,
832
00:47:11,008 --> 00:47:14,508
and if it's a big enough production
there's a makeup artist there,
833
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:17,125
and there's, and there's attention,
834
00:47:17,127 --> 00:47:19,111
for people who like attention, um,
835
00:47:20,027 --> 00:47:24,383
and then they get paid! The
very same day! Woohoo!
836
00:47:24,443 --> 00:47:27,653
Now, my great friend Lee Carol once said
837
00:47:27,655 --> 00:47:29,655
as long as you got a cunt,
you'll never starve.
838
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:34,958
But, as a danger to that,
because, it wears on your mind.
839
00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:38,505
My parents didn't take,
really an interest in my life
840
00:47:38,507 --> 00:47:41,167
and I was also sexually abused
at nine-years-old.
841
00:47:41,169 --> 00:47:45,790
I had a teenaged boy and his sister
who was my classmate
842
00:47:45,792 --> 00:47:48,963
introduce me to sexuality and uh,
843
00:47:48,965 --> 00:47:51,773
for the first time in my life
and it horrified me.
844
00:47:52,046 --> 00:47:54,428
Yeah, as soon as I barely graduated
high school,
845
00:47:54,430 --> 00:47:56,250
which, I had to cheat my way through,
846
00:47:56,252 --> 00:47:58,739
my dad ended up coming to me
and saying listen,
847
00:47:58,741 --> 00:48:01,344
you're outta the house, and literally
kicked me out on the street
848
00:48:01,346 --> 00:48:02,860
with no food, no money.
849
00:48:02,862 --> 00:48:04,816
And so I'm literally sitting out
on the curb,
850
00:48:04,925 --> 00:48:09,530
on Sherman Way, that big tough rebellious
teenager was balling her eyes out.
851
00:48:09,532 --> 00:48:13,086
And all of a sudden, this um,
beautiful black man
852
00:48:13,088 --> 00:48:17,111
came over to me and says, are you alright?
853
00:48:17,113 --> 00:48:20,055
What's wrong,
why are you crying sweetheart?
854
00:48:20,416 --> 00:48:23,867
"I have no money and I have no
food and my dad kicked me out."
855
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,624
He put his arm around me and I-
I still to this day
856
00:48:27,626 --> 00:48:30,685
can tell you what that embrace felt like,
857
00:48:30,758 --> 00:48:32,977
and he just said baby I can help you
858
00:48:32,979 --> 00:48:35,334
and I thought Jesus has come to rescue me.
859
00:48:36,897 --> 00:48:39,271
You know I really thought
he was gonna help me.
860
00:48:40,243 --> 00:48:42,887
And he said there's a man
in the apartment complex
861
00:48:42,889 --> 00:48:45,285
who would love to make love to you.
862
00:48:45,287 --> 00:48:48,498
He lured me in. I went...
You mean have sex?!
863
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:52,989
He goes yes, but he's really gentle,
really nice, and you'll get $35.
864
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:56,518
So, here I am a single mother,
865
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,446
I've done prostitution and stripping,
now for six years I've had, uh,
866
00:49:00,494 --> 00:49:05,021
I've been at gunpoint,
I've had stalkers try and kill me,
867
00:49:05,092 --> 00:49:09,652
cops try and bust me, I mean I've been
in the mafia basically for six years.
868
00:49:10,347 --> 00:49:14,486
So, someone came to me says,
girl, why don't you do porn?
869
00:49:14,948 --> 00:49:17,567
I said porn? What's that?
870
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:21,932
It was a lot worse than prostitution,
like, there's a whole crew around,
871
00:49:21,934 --> 00:49:24,393
they're all stroking themselves going...
872
00:49:24,395 --> 00:49:27,385
It was just totally degrading
and I went oh my gosh
873
00:49:27,387 --> 00:49:29,272
this is bad, this is really bad.
874
00:49:29,558 --> 00:49:31,320
And then all of a sudden like,
875
00:49:31,322 --> 00:49:35,576
I can't explain it but all the rage
I ever felt from,
876
00:49:35,578 --> 00:49:38,842
what my parents did,
from childhood, from like,
877
00:49:38,844 --> 00:49:42,359
all the things that men abused me
with in prostitution
878
00:49:42,361 --> 00:49:45,091
I just like, let it out, on the screen.
879
00:49:45,718 --> 00:49:50,126
He just said roll it and it's like here
I am the newbie
880
00:49:50,128 --> 00:49:52,714
but I like, took over the entire scene,
it was weird.
881
00:49:52,716 --> 00:49:58,489
I just went-Rrrraw! I'm Roxy!
The porn star! Like I was pissed!
882
00:49:59,078 --> 00:50:02,696
But at the end of the scene it just ended
and I had um,
883
00:50:03,614 --> 00:50:07,379
bodily fluids on my face,
and they just kinda went
884
00:50:07,381 --> 00:50:11,611
here's a rag and they just threw it and
me and I just grabbed the rag and went.
885
00:50:11,613 --> 00:50:13,386
And I didn't want them to see me cry,
886
00:50:13,388 --> 00:50:15,442
so I just kinda turned my face
and I was like,
887
00:50:15,444 --> 00:50:19,168
oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, don't cry,
Shelley, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.
888
00:50:19,326 --> 00:50:23,030
Then now all of a sudden
I'm involved doing like anal, um,
889
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:27,547
gang-bangs with five or six different
performers and I'm thinking oh my god.
890
00:50:27,549 --> 00:50:30,478
Now I'm bringing big jugs of vodka!
891
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,235
And everyone's egging you on telling you
892
00:50:32,237 --> 00:50:35,576
no, girl we love you, we're your
family now, you're awesome,
893
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,471
and then, and there is a family
atmosphere that they offer.
894
00:50:38,473 --> 00:50:42,194
Porn star karaoke, everybody hangs
out at the same parties, wooooo!
895
00:50:42,505 --> 00:50:45,243
Girl, I love you!
Everyone's very affectionate,
896
00:50:45,259 --> 00:50:48,570
and the reason why they're so affectionate
is because that's their family.
897
00:50:49,205 --> 00:50:51,797
Um, they're out, especially in my day,
we're outcasts.
898
00:50:51,838 --> 00:50:54,686
In fact I still have scars from
suicide attempts.
899
00:50:55,013 --> 00:50:56,572
And I...
900
00:50:56,574 --> 00:50:58,719
I said I don't care,
I don't wanna live anymore.
901
00:50:58,848 --> 00:51:01,812
And I took like thirty prescription pills,
and uh,
902
00:51:01,814 --> 00:51:05,662
I didn't die, but I knew I wanted out, bad,
903
00:51:05,664 --> 00:51:10,008
and I remember crying to God,
drunk off my ass on Jack Daniels,
904
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:13,322
thinking if you get me outta this
I'll serve you with my whole life
905
00:51:13,324 --> 00:51:16,282
I swear to god I'll do whatever you want!
Just get me outta this.
906
00:51:17,403 --> 00:51:19,012
I mean, people who are well adjusted
907
00:51:19,014 --> 00:51:21,809
and have good life skills
and who are doing something
908
00:51:21,811 --> 00:51:24,129
meaningful and constructive
with their lives,
909
00:51:24,131 --> 00:51:26,793
they're not
in the industry to begin with so,
910
00:51:26,795 --> 00:51:30,615
the people who are in the industry
are really broken twisted souls
911
00:51:30,631 --> 00:51:35,442
without a lot of great job skills and
uh, you know they're turbulent souls.
912
00:51:35,447 --> 00:51:39,079
So, they're always gonna be
twisting and turning in the wind.
913
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:41,056
We'd spent a lot of time in church.
914
00:51:41,058 --> 00:51:45,858
I actually convinced my mom to send me to
Christian School when I was 14,
915
00:51:45,860 --> 00:51:49,070
she found a way to gather up the funds,
916
00:51:49,072 --> 00:51:54,909
and I went and I was very involved
in my church, without her.
917
00:51:55,193 --> 00:51:57,845
You know, it was just, it was me
and my friends and that was how
918
00:51:58,501 --> 00:52:03,377
I grew up and you know, that all
changed when I was sixteen.
919
00:52:04,090 --> 00:52:09,101
I spent the night at a girlfriend's house,
and she, was a teenaged mom, and married,
920
00:52:09,103 --> 00:52:13,682
and her husband, drugged me. With acid.
921
00:52:14,174 --> 00:52:17,623
And I... At that time I had,
I hadn't even stayed up past ten.
922
00:52:17,625 --> 00:52:20,996
So, uh, I didn't, I wasn't really
well versed in the drug world.
923
00:52:21,344 --> 00:52:23,999
And that changed everything for me.
924
00:52:24,289 --> 00:52:26,474
I did the best I could to
graduate high school
925
00:52:26,476 --> 00:52:28,566
as fast as I could and, and move out.
926
00:52:28,568 --> 00:52:30,277
I was outta the house by seventeen.
927
00:52:30,279 --> 00:52:32,296
I knew some people in the adult industry
928
00:52:32,298 --> 00:52:34,893
and I hung out with them and
I'm still friends with them now,
929
00:52:34,895 --> 00:52:36,825
I don't blame them for hanging out with me
930
00:52:36,827 --> 00:52:38,981
when I was young cause
they were young too, so...
931
00:52:39,451 --> 00:52:44,921
Met a few porn stars, and,
just... Fell in love with them.
932
00:52:44,963 --> 00:52:49,949
I hung out with them until I was
over eighteen, did my first movie,
933
00:52:49,951 --> 00:52:53,796
and, you know, it
was on from there.
934
00:52:53,798 --> 00:52:56,533
Well, the first year that I was
in the adult industry,
935
00:52:56,535 --> 00:53:00,536
and was doing movies I worked for
every company under the sun.
936
00:53:00,538 --> 00:53:03,385
You know the dirtiest of the
dirtiest kinds of companies,
937
00:53:03,387 --> 00:53:05,252
that do crazy stuff.
938
00:53:05,254 --> 00:53:10,104
I worked for anybody, I could,
to make a buck.
939
00:53:10,106 --> 00:53:13,638
I told my mom and she flipped out.
940
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,444
She wasn't happy about it but eventually
when I, you know, formed a career,
941
00:53:18,647 --> 00:53:21,812
and I signed with Vivid, and
the pictures were prettier,
942
00:53:21,814 --> 00:53:26,207
and the footage was less disgusting,
ha ha ha ha!
943
00:53:27,626 --> 00:53:30,637
Um, she came to terms and you know,
944
00:53:30,864 --> 00:53:33,202
what's she gonna do?
It is what it is.
945
00:53:34,421 --> 00:53:36,961
Being a Vivid girl is, you know,
946
00:53:36,963 --> 00:53:41,013
it's what every adult industry actress
wants to be.
947
00:53:41,015 --> 00:53:46,140
You know Vivid's the biggest best and
most well-known company in the world.
948
00:53:46,518 --> 00:53:49,681
They have the most beautiful girls,
they have the best photographers.
949
00:53:49,683 --> 00:53:51,703
Um, they have the best press.
950
00:53:52,145 --> 00:53:57,618
And,..., it's yeah, it's,
it's a high class slew of girls.
951
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,124
I would think... I mean, of course you know,
it's as high class as it's gonna get.
952
00:54:03,042 --> 00:54:06,249
Um, it's a steady income,
so I don't know if
953
00:54:06,251 --> 00:54:09,046
I necessarily thought I was better
than anybody else,
954
00:54:09,048 --> 00:54:11,739
but I knew I was getting
the press that I wanted,
955
00:54:11,741 --> 00:54:15,635
so, I was happy. You know.
956
00:54:15,637 --> 00:54:19,623
I took my movies very seriously.
I studied my scripts.
957
00:54:20,831 --> 00:54:23,462
Half the time I wasn't stoned,
when I did the dialogue
958
00:54:23,757 --> 00:54:27,070
but I took my acting very seriously
because it was the only time
959
00:54:27,072 --> 00:54:29,120
I was ever gonna get to do any acting.
960
00:54:29,122 --> 00:54:33,003
So, I took it seriously!
And I loved it!
961
00:54:33,481 --> 00:54:37,404
And um, I thought I was good at it but,
you know...
962
00:54:37,406 --> 00:54:40,716
It just sounds so cliche for me to say
963
00:54:40,718 --> 00:54:43,550
I took the acting
in my porno movie seriously.
964
00:54:43,552 --> 00:54:44,965
But, but I did.
965
00:54:44,967 --> 00:54:47,943
And that was my favorite part,
was the acting.
966
00:54:49,775 --> 00:54:51,767
And sometimes the sex.
967
00:54:55,512 --> 00:54:57,777
You can use drugs and party and drink,
968
00:54:57,779 --> 00:55:00,905
no matter what career choice you have, but,
969
00:55:01,777 --> 00:55:06,778
, yes, you're opened up
to the party lifestyle a lot more.
970
00:55:06,825 --> 00:55:08,521
I mean, you hang out with rockstars, you,
971
00:55:08,523 --> 00:55:12,204
you know there's always
porn parties to go to, um...
972
00:55:13,799 --> 00:55:20,131
Me, struggling as an addict, of course
took advantage of everything that was there
973
00:55:20,133 --> 00:55:25,198
you know, all of the alcohol,
all of... all of the drugs, I did 'em all!
974
00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:32,240
Um... It's not a safe business to
be in if you wanna stay clean.
975
00:55:33,935 --> 00:55:35,241
It's not safe.
976
00:55:36,497 --> 00:55:39,677
Um, and I'm not telling you this to
make you feel sorry for me or anything
977
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:41,810
but I had an extremely tough childhood,
978
00:55:41,812 --> 00:55:44,570
and um, I think I got very lost
for many years.
979
00:55:44,608 --> 00:55:48,103
Um, I didn't know who I was,
like many people.
980
00:55:48,658 --> 00:55:53,301
Um, I had a very warped understanding
of what love was.
981
00:55:54,137 --> 00:55:59,091
And um, I think because of
a lack of love in my life or a,
982
00:55:59,093 --> 00:56:01,848
an inability to determine
what love really is
983
00:56:02,288 --> 00:56:06,187
I saw sexual attention, as love.
984
00:56:06,189 --> 00:56:08,806
And when you've suffered a lot of
sexual abuse in your life
985
00:56:08,808 --> 00:56:11,387
it's understandable I think
why you would feel that way.
986
00:56:12,394 --> 00:56:16,630
Trying to tell you... at what
point I made the decision
987
00:56:16,632 --> 00:56:19,661
to be Tiffany Million is not something
I could answer really
988
00:56:19,663 --> 00:56:23,334
in just one neat sentence.
It's kind of a combination of things.
989
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:29,015
Essentially the whole reason that
I even got into that business
990
00:56:29,136 --> 00:56:33,467
to begin with was because I was a single
mother, like many people, and um,
991
00:56:33,469 --> 00:56:38,964
I was living in Southern California,
I had no family,
992
00:56:38,964 --> 00:56:42,391
I didn't know that many people, her
father wasn't helping me with her,
993
00:56:42,484 --> 00:56:45,125
and it was pretty scary being
a single parent honestly,
994
00:56:45,129 --> 00:56:48,173
and so, I mean I figured,
you know I had a choice:
995
00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:50,408
I could work eight hours a day,
996
00:56:50,696 --> 00:56:53,649
and commute an hour or two
each way on the freeway,
997
00:56:53,854 --> 00:56:58,726
to make, seven eight dollars an hour,
only to pay out half of that in taxes,
998
00:56:58,728 --> 00:57:03,288
and child care, and my daughter's with you
know heaven knows who during the day,
999
00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:07,040
or I could re-enter the
adult entertainment industry
1000
00:57:07,042 --> 00:57:08,717
'cause I'd been a stripper years before.
1001
00:57:08,773 --> 00:57:12,228
And then I thought, cause I'd always
been kind of a fan of adult films,
1002
00:57:12,290 --> 00:57:16,758
and I'd so many times I had looked at
those movies and uh, I'd thought
1003
00:57:16,782 --> 00:57:19,500
man, you know what
I could do that and I could do it better.
1004
00:57:19,536 --> 00:57:22,083
You know. And so I thought
well heck, why not?
1005
00:57:22,085 --> 00:57:23,973
I mean I didn't have
a man in my life anymore,
1006
00:57:23,975 --> 00:57:26,637
I left her father, and uh,
I definitely needed the money,
1007
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:29,141
but really it just afforded me a way to,
1008
00:57:29,143 --> 00:57:33,021
work as little as possible
to get as much money as I could
1009
00:57:33,023 --> 00:57:35,280
to be with my daughter cause
that's all I really wanted
1010
00:57:35,445 --> 00:57:37,515
I wanted my daughter to have a great life,
1011
00:57:37,517 --> 00:57:39,921
and a safe home, in a good neighborhood,
1012
00:57:39,923 --> 00:57:43,200
with good childcare, and I wanted to
spend as much time with her as I could.
1013
00:57:43,407 --> 00:57:47,388
And working in the adult film industry
allowed me to work a day or two a week
1014
00:57:47,704 --> 00:57:50,672
and be with my daughter the rest
of the week and make more money
1015
00:57:50,674 --> 00:57:53,868
than people than worked, you know,
five days a week, eight hours a day.
1016
00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:56,303
What you do in porn films is not sex.
1017
00:57:56,373 --> 00:57:59,254
I mean I know you're being penetrated,
but it's like this, you know.
1018
00:57:59,256 --> 00:58:01,250
It's like this. I mean
that's what it feels like.
1019
00:58:01,252 --> 00:58:05,767
It's just something occupying um,
a chasm in your body.
1020
00:58:05,769 --> 00:58:08,048
Really... It's like this.
1021
00:58:08,050 --> 00:58:10,234
It's like this that's
what it might as well be.
1022
00:58:10,236 --> 00:58:14,214
Uh, there uh, there's no emotion there,
there's no feeling, um, you know,
1023
00:58:14,216 --> 00:58:16,677
you know, I gotta tell you
this funny little story!
1024
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:19,866
I would have so many fans come up
to me at autograph signings
1025
00:58:19,868 --> 00:58:22,288
whatever and tell me that I
was their favorite porn star,
1026
00:58:22,378 --> 00:58:25,869
because all the other girls were faking
it and I was the one that they knew,
1027
00:58:25,871 --> 00:58:28,056
man, that I was for real.
1028
00:58:28,083 --> 00:58:32,143
And uh, and I can tell when a
woman's faking it and I'd be laughing!
1029
00:58:32,145 --> 00:58:34,541
Watch my face. Watch my face.
1030
00:58:40,180 --> 00:58:42,023
'Cause I'd be like...
1031
00:58:42,025 --> 00:58:43,923
I'm the biggest damn faker you ever met!
1032
00:58:43,925 --> 00:58:46,548
I mean I'm good, that's why
I get paid the big bucks.
1033
00:58:46,550 --> 00:58:48,310
Even when I was in the business,
1034
00:58:48,338 --> 00:58:52,244
I didn't partake of all of the
extraneous activities.
1035
00:58:52,340 --> 00:58:55,587
Um, I think I went to several parties only
because there was free food and boozes,
1036
00:58:55,590 --> 00:58:57,203
and I would go and I would eat and stuff
1037
00:58:57,250 --> 00:59:00,028
and then everybody would go
to the after-parties and I'd be like nah,
1038
00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:01,460
I'm going home and going to bed.
1039
00:59:01,507 --> 00:59:03,372
I've always been early to bed,
early to rise.
1040
00:59:03,374 --> 00:59:05,498
I never wanted to be a part of
that scene and um,
1041
00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:09,178
even when I was working in the movies I
always kinda felt like a fly on the wall.
1042
00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:12,635
Like I know my body was involved,
because, obviously, I was there.
1043
00:59:12,655 --> 00:59:16,017
But I always had this strange feeling
this real feeling of disconnect.
1044
00:59:16,019 --> 00:59:17,821
Like I was up here looking down.
1045
00:59:17,823 --> 00:59:21,791
When my father died in 94, uh like I
said he left me a whole bunch of money,
1046
00:59:21,793 --> 00:59:24,444
and I suddenly realized that I'm free.
1047
00:59:24,659 --> 00:59:28,003
I don't have to be her anymore. And
I walked away. And that was it.
1048
00:59:28,825 --> 00:59:31,426
No one puts a gun to anybody's head
to do this.
1049
00:59:31,428 --> 00:59:33,432
If you're not warned about
what's gonna happen
1050
00:59:33,434 --> 00:59:35,978
then the person who didn't warn you
is the person who's guilty
1051
00:59:36,026 --> 00:59:39,774
in that respect, but they're doing it
for the one thing that they cannot deny.
1052
00:59:39,776 --> 00:59:44,363
That absolute death-wish, for the
recognition, validation, and credibility.
1053
00:59:44,365 --> 00:59:46,800
And they're welcome to it, but eventually
1054
00:59:46,802 --> 00:59:48,684
their past will catch up to them
1055
00:59:48,905 --> 00:59:52,803
and they have to be aware of the fact
that X is forever.
1056
00:59:53,563 --> 00:59:58,508
When I got into the business, um,
I, did have a goal.
1057
00:59:59,052 --> 01:00:01,086
It was my "cracked out" goal.
1058
01:00:01,088 --> 01:00:04,188
But I did have a goal to, be out,
1059
01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:08,741
and retired, twenty-six,
at the latest twenty-seven.
1060
01:00:11,315 --> 01:00:13,465
And I was out, by twenty-four.
1061
01:00:14,616 --> 01:00:19,914
I didn't leave the business because uh,
I wanted to.
1062
01:00:19,916 --> 01:00:22,687
I left the business cause I felt I HAD to.
1063
01:00:22,689 --> 01:00:24,663
That it was the right thing to do.
1064
01:00:24,665 --> 01:00:30,244
On November fourth, 1984,
was the first headline,
1065
01:00:30,246 --> 01:00:32,385
in the San Francisco Chronicle,
1066
01:00:32,387 --> 01:00:36,223
regarding the heterosexua
transmission of AIDS.
1067
01:00:36,225 --> 01:00:39,140
A good friend of mine,
who was a mathematician
1068
01:00:39,142 --> 01:00:41,101
had read the same article I did
1069
01:00:41,103 --> 01:00:43,478
and he came over to my house
in the afternoon and he said
1070
01:00:43,489 --> 01:00:46,674
"I've done some calculations
based on the numbers,
1071
01:00:46,676 --> 01:00:48,400
reported here in the story.
1072
01:00:48,402 --> 01:00:51,378
And you're in the wrong place
at the wrong time.
1073
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:52,877
I want you to stop."
1074
01:00:52,879 --> 01:00:56,139
I had three jobs lined up for December,
my wife said I don't want you to do them.
1075
01:00:56,730 --> 01:00:59,346
And my thinking was look,
they're just trying to sell newspapers,
1076
01:00:59,750 --> 01:01:03,791
that's what newspapers do, they scare
you, and so I don't think the danger is
1077
01:01:03,793 --> 01:01:06,608
that real, and I'm gonna go ahead
and do these jobs.
1078
01:01:06,610 --> 01:01:08,695
So I went off and I did the three jobs.
1079
01:01:08,697 --> 01:01:13,481
And when I came home, and we're about to
go to bed, that night, she said to me
1080
01:01:13,483 --> 01:01:15,171
"Do you think we should?"
1081
01:01:15,942 --> 01:01:18,408
Should? Should what? Have sex?
1082
01:01:19,152 --> 01:01:21,616
"Yeah, do you think we should have sex?"
1083
01:01:21,987 --> 01:01:24,128
And I said, what are you talking about?
1084
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:27,651
And she said, and I can quote you verbatim,
I remembered this all this time.
1085
01:01:27,653 --> 01:01:30,767
She said "Don't you think
it would be prudent,
1086
01:01:30,769 --> 01:01:35,654
if one of us remained alive,
to raise the kids?"
1087
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,717
Pchew!
1088
01:01:40,111 --> 01:01:41,982
That was the brick wall.
1089
01:01:42,201 --> 01:01:45,720
Somebody had offered m
e a DVD deal, and I...
1090
01:01:45,722 --> 01:01:48,729
I knew CD-ROMS didn't do good, I
knew the laser disks didn't do good,
1091
01:01:48,731 --> 01:01:52,408
and I thought, uh, this DVD thing,
whatever it is, won't replace video,
1092
01:01:52,452 --> 01:01:55,648
so I signed it without having a
lawyer look at it or anything,
1093
01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:59,893
and by the time DVDs
started taking over from videos,
1094
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,516
I looked at the contract and found out
now they have my DVD rights,
1095
01:02:03,518 --> 01:02:08,150
also had internet rights, and
the company wasn't very good.
1096
01:02:09,389 --> 01:02:12,012
And once I realized I wasn't gonna make
much money
1097
01:02:12,014 --> 01:02:14,684
I stayed with Evil Angel my distributor,
1098
01:02:14,686 --> 01:02:17,796
for as long as I could, then when they
stopped doing videos that was it.
1099
01:02:17,798 --> 01:02:20,477
The ones that do well, are out
because they wanna be out,
1100
01:02:20,479 --> 01:02:22,188
not because they had to get out.
1101
01:02:22,190 --> 01:02:25,532
And, they have made their peace
with what they did,
1102
01:02:25,534 --> 01:02:30,325
and that shows in their bearing, and
the way that they are, in the world.
1103
01:02:30,883 --> 01:02:33,754
The money that I did save up
went really quick.
1104
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:38,139
Um, and then I was just, scraping by.
1105
01:02:38,707 --> 01:02:42,925
And it was, um, it was
the Christian community that
1106
01:02:42,927 --> 01:02:45,696
really came alongside me and helped me out.
1107
01:02:45,698 --> 01:02:48,877
There would be times when I was, didn't
know how I was gonna pay my rent,
1108
01:02:48,893 --> 01:02:52,806
and, somebody, it was just people
I don't even know,
1109
01:02:52,808 --> 01:02:56,226
just people who've read my story,
who wanted to help.
1110
01:02:56,531 --> 01:03:00,046
When I left the business
I sold my house in Los Angeles,
1111
01:03:01,911 --> 01:03:08,456
um, I first-I retired, and then, um,
I decided, I need to get out of L.A.
1112
01:03:08,601 --> 01:03:10,754
I needed to get out of L.A.
1113
01:03:10,806 --> 01:03:16,150
I mean, everywhere I went,
McDonalds drive-thru,
1114
01:03:16,579 --> 01:03:19,681
um, nightclubs,
the movie theatre, the park,
1115
01:03:19,683 --> 01:03:23,168
Universal Studios, I mean, you name it,
1116
01:03:23,170 --> 01:03:25,773
I could not, go anywhere.
1117
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,433
I..., I don't know how these
big celebrities deal with it all.
1118
01:03:28,435 --> 01:03:30,835
I mean they must ha... They have
to have bodyguards of course
1119
01:03:30,874 --> 01:03:35,986
and stuff like that cause I did not have
bodyguards and I could not handle it.
1120
01:03:35,988 --> 01:03:39,024
It's impossible to lead a normal life
after you get out of it.
1121
01:03:39,026 --> 01:03:41,591
This is forever.
This is the scarlet letter.
1122
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:43,918
And it, it never goes away,
you'll be dealing with the,
1123
01:03:44,174 --> 01:03:46,784
with the implications of this forever.
1124
01:03:47,897 --> 01:03:50,842
What..., what tends to
happen is that it isolates you.
1125
01:03:51,697 --> 01:03:58,848
And so you, develop a, a fear of, being
rejected again and again and again
1126
01:03:59,309 --> 01:04:02,107
and so you put up walls
between you and other people,
1127
01:04:02,136 --> 01:04:04,788
and you isolate yourself
and you don't join communities,
1128
01:04:04,993 --> 01:04:08,976
and, when you're isolated you're
less likely to suffer rejection.
1129
01:04:09,271 --> 01:04:11,711
But you're also isolated and
living on the edge
1130
01:04:11,713 --> 01:04:15,656
so, um, you can never get away
from this, there's no solution.
1131
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:20,097
To go from being uh, a movie star,
1132
01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:26,541
to zippo the pinhead overnight, was
just like, devastating to my ego.
1133
01:04:27,213 --> 01:04:30,153
If you're looking for a long career
in the porn business
1134
01:04:30,155 --> 01:04:32,026
you're probably looking in the wrong place.
1135
01:04:33,345 --> 01:04:38,621
Uh, the average girl, might be good for,
two years?
1136
01:04:39,386 --> 01:04:42,212
Two to three years tops
for the average girl.
1137
01:04:42,696 --> 01:04:46,435
If you're lucky and you're one of the
few superstars, not very many of those,
1138
01:04:46,437 --> 01:04:50,303
okay then you get uh, you know,
six seven years. Eight years.
1139
01:04:50,807 --> 01:04:52,766
And if you play your cards right,
1140
01:04:52,768 --> 01:04:54,716
and do your financial thing right,
1141
01:04:54,828 --> 01:04:57,584
then you can, you know,
make some money and set yourself up.
1142
01:04:58,693 --> 01:05:00,573
Overall I guess I'm happy I did it.
1143
01:05:00,575 --> 01:05:02,507
I mean the only thing I don't like is
that, it,
1144
01:05:02,607 --> 01:05:06,686
the main thing I really wanted to do
is act and be in comedies and tv,
1145
01:05:06,774 --> 01:05:08,308
and I feel like it holds me back.
1146
01:05:08,310 --> 01:05:10,479
But I don't know if I would have just stuck
1147
01:05:10,481 --> 01:05:13,369
with the normal route if I would've
uh, ended up making it to tv at all,
1148
01:05:13,371 --> 01:05:16,219
who knows I'd probably, maybe still
be in Florida going to castings,
1149
01:05:16,221 --> 01:05:18,065
maybe I never would have come out here.
1150
01:05:18,067 --> 01:05:20,190
So, and I've gotten to do a lot
of Cinemax movies
1151
01:05:20,192 --> 01:05:22,828
which are really fun too,
and all those things I've gotten to do
1152
01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:26,509
because of probably the porn.
So overall I guess I'm happy I did it.
1153
01:05:26,687 --> 01:05:30,182
Uh, part of the reason we're here
in Utah is because porn is illegal here
1154
01:05:30,184 --> 01:05:33,129
so uh, it really helps keep me from
being recognized.
1155
01:05:33,131 --> 01:05:35,600
That and the forty extra pounds I gained!
1156
01:05:35,692 --> 01:05:38,339
But um, now that I'm losing that weight,
1157
01:05:38,667 --> 01:05:41,610
well I also cut off my hair
so that helps too. But um.
1158
01:05:42,115 --> 01:05:45,973
Yeah, everyone's been really cool
about, when they find out who I am.
1159
01:05:45,975 --> 01:05:49,082
They've been really good about it.
When I took Katty to her new daycare
1160
01:05:49,168 --> 01:05:52,238
and they asked, if I had um,
reference names for like,
1161
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,273
who to call if something happens to Katty
I said I don't know anybody here,
1162
01:05:55,275 --> 01:05:58,398
I have no references, sorry, and she
thought that was a little bit suspicious,
1163
01:05:58,417 --> 01:06:00,130
and so she looked me up online,
1164
01:06:00,166 --> 01:06:02,537
I had given her the name Asia Lemon, um,
1165
01:06:03,193 --> 01:06:05,605
and from that name she managed
to figure out who I was
1166
01:06:05,898 --> 01:06:08,872
and so the next day she goes, uh, you
know I did a little Googling on you.
1167
01:06:08,881 --> 01:06:10,668
And I was like Ugh!
1168
01:06:11,764 --> 01:06:15,544
Miss Mormon Mommy of four
who did a little Googling on Asia.
1169
01:06:15,546 --> 01:06:17,600
I was like, so,
you still gonna watch my kid?
1170
01:06:18,558 --> 01:06:20,526
Well you know, unfortunately like uh,
1171
01:06:20,528 --> 01:06:24,259
one of the reasons I like...
the fact that Vince Neal
1172
01:06:24,261 --> 01:06:26,490
has me playing his charity tournament
for his daughter
1173
01:06:26,492 --> 01:06:29,225
for children's cancer and stuff,
and I played in the Country uh,
1174
01:06:29,926 --> 01:06:32,927
Academy of Country Music Awards
charity tournament this year
1175
01:06:33,283 --> 01:06:36,034
and a few other charity tournaments
cause it's one of the only ways,
1176
01:06:36,705 --> 01:06:41,779
that porn people can give to charities,
unfortunately in this hypocritical world,
1177
01:06:42,258 --> 01:06:44,777
a lot of charities
don't want to accept money
1178
01:06:44,779 --> 01:06:46,721
from people that are in the sex business.
1179
01:06:46,723 --> 01:06:48,865
"Eww, the sex business we can't do that."
1180
01:06:48,867 --> 01:06:52,557
Politicians, on the other hand,
who make us look clean as hell,
1181
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,392
no problem taking their money.
1182
01:06:54,795 --> 01:06:58,747
Uh, unscrupulous business men who's
ripping everybody off, no problem!
1183
01:06:58,749 --> 01:07:01,082
But because we have
a little sex once in a while, naw,
1184
01:07:01,334 --> 01:07:03,733
can't do you and that pissed me off.
1185
01:07:04,094 --> 01:07:07,499
I had one interesting moment in
baseball with my son in little league.
1186
01:07:07,501 --> 01:07:09,674
I had told nobody about my career,
1187
01:07:09,676 --> 01:07:14,138
and uh, one day the manager,
who was this big black guy
1188
01:07:14,140 --> 01:07:17,450
who was a Stanford graduate,
he comes up to me and he goes,
1189
01:07:17,521 --> 01:07:20,376
"Gonna be some trouble today."
1190
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,260
And I said what do you mean?
1191
01:07:22,262 --> 01:07:24,874
He says:
- One of the mothers knows who's you are.
1192
01:07:24,876 --> 01:07:26,667
He looks at me and he's says
1193
01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:29,370
"You know I knew who you were
the minute you came on the field."
1194
01:07:29,384 --> 01:07:31,110
And he said I'll tell you the truth.
He said
1195
01:07:31,114 --> 01:07:35,091
"Anybody that's been in Nina
Hartly's booty is okay with me."
1196
01:07:36,370 --> 01:07:39,396
He says "I will take care
of this." And he did.
1197
01:07:39,675 --> 01:07:41,683
MENSA's a high IQ society.
1198
01:07:41,685 --> 01:07:45,690
You have to have an IQ
in the top two percent, to get in.
1199
01:07:45,692 --> 01:07:48,756
I got in, with a notarized copy
of my SAT scores.
1200
01:07:48,758 --> 01:07:51,388
MENSA didn't want link
to my website even though
1201
01:07:51,390 --> 01:07:55,206
they linked all the member's websites,
because uh, of who I was, and adult star,
1202
01:07:56,784 --> 01:07:58,612
um, so, that was their excuse,
1203
01:07:58,614 --> 01:08:01,391
and so I made them a special
little webpage of Asia
1204
01:08:01,393 --> 01:08:04,953
just like, happy Asia,
college pictures and smiling Asia
1205
01:08:04,955 --> 01:08:07,242
and, just innocent stuff
and it's two pages,
1206
01:08:07,346 --> 01:08:09,835
and that's,
so that's where MENSA links to now,
1207
01:08:09,837 --> 01:08:11,264
instead of my regular site.
1208
01:08:11,266 --> 01:08:15,018
And they finally acknowledged me in
their MENSA celebrity issue which was,
1209
01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:17,572
a really big moment for me. That was cool.
1210
01:08:18,365 --> 01:08:20,133
Wait, how do you say it?
1211
01:08:20,438 --> 01:08:22,983
Unprecedented? Unprecedented?
It sounds weird. Okay.
1212
01:08:24,069 --> 01:08:26,456
I've done something unprecedented that
1213
01:08:26,458 --> 01:08:29,170
nobody else in the adult industry
has ever done.
1214
01:08:29,172 --> 01:08:31,861
Um, and that was you know
running for Governor of California,
1215
01:08:31,863 --> 01:08:33,136
actually two times.
1216
01:08:33,138 --> 01:08:35,803
And um, it was amazing,
when I first started out,
1217
01:08:36,388 --> 01:08:37,632
the owner of my company
1218
01:08:37,634 --> 01:08:40,176
and I thought that it was gonna be
just like a little fun joke,
1219
01:08:40,178 --> 01:08:42,611
see if I could get some press,
maybe get on the avn.com,
1220
01:08:42,783 --> 01:08:45,188
so when I went down to the
courthouse to get my paperwork
1221
01:08:45,190 --> 01:08:47,066
when we said I was gonna do it,
1222
01:08:47,089 --> 01:08:50,522
um, Howard Stern Show sent a camera
crew down, Channel 7, Channel 5,
1223
01:08:50,566 --> 01:08:53,075
all the news shows showed up,
Associated Press, writers,
1224
01:08:53,077 --> 01:08:55,759
and that's when him and I are like
Okay, I gotta get on that ballot
1225
01:08:55,761 --> 01:08:57,228
because this is gonna be huge.
1226
01:08:57,230 --> 01:09:00,446
I'm going to get rid of the car tax and
put a tax on breast implants instead.
1227
01:09:01,342 --> 01:09:03,328
I will legalize gay marriage.
1228
01:09:03,330 --> 01:09:06,651
And I will make sure everyone who files
for unemployment gets jury duty.
1229
01:09:06,653 --> 01:09:10,292
In other words, California,
I'll be a kickass governor,
1230
01:09:10,294 --> 01:09:13,190
so vote for me, Mary Carey,
on October 7th.
1231
01:09:13,921 --> 01:09:16,682
I mean, of course, some of my platforms
were very tongue in cheek,
1232
01:09:16,684 --> 01:09:19,819
and funny but, you know,
when I was getting towards the end of it
1233
01:09:19,821 --> 01:09:22,354
I realized that you know I really
wanted to make a difference
1234
01:09:22,422 --> 01:09:25,015
and I felt like I really was making a
difference because
1235
01:09:25,063 --> 01:09:27,805
I was getting a lot of people
who normally wouldn't follow politics
1236
01:09:27,807 --> 01:09:31,308
to follow, because of me. And um, you know,
1237
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:32,870
and then I was like what if I win?
1238
01:09:32,872 --> 01:09:35,316
But, you know, coming
in tenth place is pretty amazing
1239
01:09:35,318 --> 01:09:36,881
out of a hundred and thirty-two people.
1240
01:09:36,883 --> 01:09:38,640
When I was eighteen years old, um,
1241
01:09:38,642 --> 01:09:41,656
I went to uh,
real-estate school, just everything
1242
01:09:41,658 --> 01:09:43,771
about real-estate just I really liked,
1243
01:09:43,773 --> 01:09:47,128
so I figured that I would always,
do something with that.
1244
01:09:47,450 --> 01:09:52,607
I was working for a builder, uh, a, a
home builder, here, and,
1245
01:09:52,669 --> 01:09:58,375
corporate, came to my community
and shut the doors
1246
01:09:58,377 --> 01:09:59,711
and said we need to talk to you.
1247
01:09:59,713 --> 01:10:03,360
Someone recognized you,
We know who you are,
1248
01:10:03,629 --> 01:10:09,865
and you are too recognizable and it's
a, we're too conservative of a company,
1249
01:10:09,867 --> 01:10:12,021
and we're gonna have to let you go.
1250
01:10:12,023 --> 01:10:14,857
And so that was right before,
1251
01:10:14,859 --> 01:10:17,659
that was a week before I got
diagnosed with cancer.
1252
01:10:18,263 --> 01:10:20,158
And the ones that got out of this business
1253
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,305
and now are being blighted
by the society that jacked off to them.
1254
01:10:24,539 --> 01:10:27,193
Well the society are the ones
that's guilty for that.
1255
01:10:27,195 --> 01:10:30,293
They're damning them for something that
gave them pleasure, but they refuse
1256
01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:32,096
to admit that they got
the pleasure from them.
1257
01:10:32,097 --> 01:10:34,134
And that's a very very
sad state of affairs.
1258
01:10:34,136 --> 01:10:36,561
Now I was starting to direct,
1259
01:10:36,614 --> 01:10:40,550
and I was hired, uh, a couple months later,
1260
01:10:40,552 --> 01:10:42,721
to go to Germany to work.
1261
01:10:42,723 --> 01:10:45,769
I'd make about eight grand
or something like that.
1262
01:10:45,771 --> 01:10:47,397
Work eight days or something.
1263
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:49,690
And I didn't wanna do this
any more at this time,
1264
01:10:49,692 --> 01:10:50,998
I didn't wanna do it any more.
1265
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,669
So I left, said goodbye to her,
stood in line for two hours,
1266
01:10:54,671 --> 01:10:58,543
and as I'm going I'm saying I don't wanna
go, I'm saying to myself I don't wanna go,
1267
01:10:59,250 --> 01:11:03,254
And it just built up and built up until I
got, finally got to the point of where,
1268
01:11:04,242 --> 01:11:07,402
"May I help you?" they said,
you know, ticket counter,
1269
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:10,726
I said uh, no, I'm not going.
1270
01:11:10,953 --> 01:11:15,113
I took my bags, I call up Kathleen
and I said baby I'm coming home,
1271
01:11:15,115 --> 01:11:17,064
I don't wanna go,
I don't wanna go to Europe.
1272
01:11:17,066 --> 01:11:19,756
I'm thinking about the trip and
everything, I don't wanna do this,
1273
01:11:19,758 --> 01:11:23,805
I wanna stay home with her. So, that
was pretty much the last thing I did.
1274
01:11:24,092 --> 01:11:26,777
Really what got me out of
it was my husband.
1275
01:11:27,362 --> 01:11:34,808
Because, when I met Ron, he had no idea
who I used to be. Ron loved me, for me.
1276
01:11:34,810 --> 01:11:37,774
And you know he could had
a much younger woman,
1277
01:11:37,897 --> 01:11:39,754
he could had a much better looking woman,
1278
01:11:39,756 --> 01:11:41,657
he could had a woman with a lot more money.
1279
01:11:41,659 --> 01:11:43,029
But he fell in love with me.
1280
01:11:43,031 --> 01:11:44,918
He didn't know anything
about that part of me.
1281
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,677
And the fact that he accepted me
for who I was
1282
01:11:47,784 --> 01:11:49,407
and loved me for who I was...
1283
01:11:52,322 --> 01:11:55,091
Taught me how to love me.
Really.
1284
01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:58,962
And his love for me has reconnected me
1285
01:11:58,964 --> 01:12:02,427
with the person that I was before
I EVER, did any of this crap.
1286
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:08,698
All of a sudden Mr. Right came
into my life, and I hated him.
1287
01:12:09,083 --> 01:12:10,287
Ha! When I first met him.
1288
01:12:10,364 --> 01:12:12,372
His whole life he was raised
in Christian school
1289
01:12:12,374 --> 01:12:15,001
from like, he went to the same school,
the same kids
1290
01:12:15,003 --> 01:12:16,871
from like kindergarten
to like twelfth grade.
1291
01:12:16,873 --> 01:12:19,751
He was like most valuable player,
he did sports,
1292
01:12:19,780 --> 01:12:21,330
his mom had all these trophies.
1293
01:12:21,332 --> 01:12:23,898
She has a book this thick just
on newspaper clippings on him.
1294
01:12:24,474 --> 01:12:26,985
So I was like jealous already
I hated his guts.
1295
01:12:27,056 --> 01:12:29,716
He would like knock on my door
and I would answer
1296
01:12:29,718 --> 01:12:32,399
and go what do you want? and he
goes "I'm here to clean your house."
1297
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,141
And I'd be like, what are you doing?
1298
01:12:34,150 --> 01:12:35,978
He goes "You're filthy."
1299
01:12:36,331 --> 01:12:38,875
Like, cause I didn't cook,
and I didn't clean
1300
01:12:38,877 --> 01:12:41,041
and I was, and I was,
I was falling apart.
1301
01:12:41,043 --> 01:12:43,570
So he literally cleaned my whole house.
1302
01:12:43,572 --> 01:12:47,068
With rags for me, and um,
I just stopped working.
1303
01:12:47,284 --> 01:12:49,434
Didn't wanna prostitute anymore
and lie anymore
1304
01:12:49,436 --> 01:12:51,502
and we just hit it off
and the next thing you know
1305
01:12:51,504 --> 01:12:54,808
we're snorting meth, and next thing you
know we're reading the bible together.
1306
01:12:55,023 --> 01:12:57,000
And we're like.... dude!
1307
01:12:57,002 --> 01:13:01,498
Did you see like how like God used Joshua
like to conquer all those cities dude.
1308
01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:03,915
And he'd be like...
yeah and (inaudible)...
1309
01:13:03,917 --> 01:13:06,284
and like I, I mean
we're were just like so into the Bible!
1310
01:13:06,286 --> 01:13:09,502
And we realized that
he had went to Christian school
1311
01:13:09,504 --> 01:13:12,174
his whole life and was
the pastor's son so he had
1312
01:13:12,176 --> 01:13:14,185
a really great Christian foundation and,
1313
01:13:15,210 --> 01:13:19,488
I didn't as much as him but,
he was so sweet
1314
01:13:19,563 --> 01:13:22,406
and he never once pursued me sexually,
so, um,
1315
01:13:22,408 --> 01:13:26,663
we ended up getting married
on Valentine's Day, 1995.
1316
01:13:27,018 --> 01:13:30,574
I met my husband in a pool,
in Hollywood, Florida.
1317
01:13:31,310 --> 01:13:35,930
At the Diplomat Hotel.
And he was married at the time
1318
01:13:35,932 --> 01:13:37,676
and I had a boyfriend at the time.
1319
01:13:37,678 --> 01:13:42,818
And, he was in the middle of splitting
up and I was kinda done with it.
1320
01:13:42,820 --> 01:13:44,306
Little Trist.
1321
01:13:44,308 --> 01:13:47,450
And, I told him I was in the middle of uh,
1322
01:13:47,452 --> 01:13:51,327
putting a webpage together,
and, he said oh okay,
1323
01:13:51,329 --> 01:13:55,856
and, it had to be maybe three months
after I got my first website up
1324
01:13:55,858 --> 01:13:57,870
that I got an email from him.
1325
01:13:57,872 --> 01:14:01,575
We went out once, that was it.
We haven't been apart since.
1326
01:14:01,577 --> 01:14:05,156
Um, my husband died in a car accident
driving home from Las Vegas.
1327
01:14:05,158 --> 01:14:07,858
I had asked him not to do
this whole gig actually,
1328
01:14:08,427 --> 01:14:11,505
um, I was eight months pregnant and I
didn't want him away from me that long,
1329
01:14:11,733 --> 01:14:15,491
and uh, he's like "I gotta do it honey",
but he tried, he cut it down to two days
1330
01:14:15,493 --> 01:14:18,946
so he was really happy coming home on the
second day that he was all done with this
1331
01:14:18,948 --> 01:14:21,124
and he came racing home to be
with his pregnant wife
1332
01:14:21,126 --> 01:14:23,979
and he flipped the jeep
and didn't ever make it home.
1333
01:14:24,647 --> 01:14:28,472
Suddenly he's gone and now here I am, no
more income and all these bills to pay
1334
01:14:28,474 --> 01:14:30,522
and it was just like one thing
on top of another.
1335
01:14:30,524 --> 01:14:33,088
And so I, I just,
I put up a plea on my website
1336
01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:34,888
asking, uh, for donations.
1337
01:14:35,648 --> 01:14:37,048
I didn't know what else to do.
1338
01:14:37,444 --> 01:14:43,571
No insurance, no money, bills, and my
fans donated, enormous amounts of money.
1339
01:14:43,573 --> 01:14:46,958
Um, the kids were completely spoiled,
they got toys and books and presents
1340
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,370
and stuff with pictures on it
and just it was, unbelievable
1341
01:14:50,372 --> 01:14:53,615
it would make me cry all the time I would
open all the mail from all these people
1342
01:14:53,617 --> 01:14:56,217
I'd never met and it was just, it was
really wonderful having fans
1343
01:14:56,306 --> 01:14:59,104
turn out to help me. Because you know,
I'd been online for ten years,
1344
01:14:59,106 --> 01:15:01,263
they'd watched grow up
and I'd never asked for anything before
1345
01:15:01,304 --> 01:15:03,343
and here I was I needed help.
And they helped me.
1346
01:15:03,411 --> 01:15:06,487
I faced those up and,
up and downs many times.
1347
01:15:06,489 --> 01:15:09,231
Certainly with my real-estate practice
1348
01:15:09,233 --> 01:15:11,932
and the market and
when the market dropped in real-estate,
1349
01:15:11,934 --> 01:15:16,084
and now that the market and, you know,
is dropping all the way across the board
1350
01:15:16,086 --> 01:15:18,791
I mean the country is in crisis.
Our whole country is in crisis.
1351
01:15:19,204 --> 01:15:22,930
It would be really easy for me right now,
1352
01:15:22,932 --> 01:15:28,091
to want to reinvestigate, you know, porn.
1353
01:15:28,093 --> 01:15:30,161
I definitely wanna have kids.
1354
01:15:30,163 --> 01:15:32,994
That's something like, I was actually
very depressed recently because
1355
01:15:32,996 --> 01:15:35,711
I, I'm realizing that I'm twenty
years old and I'm not married
1356
01:15:35,731 --> 01:15:38,233
and I have no kids.
And I really want kids.
1357
01:15:38,465 --> 01:15:40,689
And, I'd like to have at least two.
Maybe three.
1358
01:15:40,691 --> 01:15:43,457
Because being an only child I always
wished I had a brother or sister.
1359
01:15:43,459 --> 01:15:45,247
I still wish I had a brother or sister.
1360
01:15:45,249 --> 01:15:48,551
Like, you know I just, that's
something I've always wanted so.
1361
01:15:48,901 --> 01:15:51,245
I have a gorgeous family.
1362
01:15:52,261 --> 01:15:54,577
My son is amazing. He's my angel.
1363
01:15:57,539 --> 01:15:59,752
My daughter is the best thing
that ever happened to me.
1364
01:15:59,754 --> 01:16:00,758
She saved my life.
1365
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,214
I want my daughter to have
a completely different life.
1366
01:16:03,216 --> 01:16:06,801
I want her to, go to college is number one.
1367
01:16:06,803 --> 01:16:09,013
She's a great student, she's a track star,
1368
01:16:09,015 --> 01:16:12,718
she's had to deal with my porn life.
1369
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,927
She, um, hates it.
She's embarrassed of it.
1370
01:16:16,929 --> 01:16:20,571
And, um, she won't let me,
she doesn't want me
1371
01:16:20,573 --> 01:16:22,630
to go to her track meets, sh...
1372
01:16:22,632 --> 01:16:25,018
because she feels
someone would recognize me.
1373
01:16:25,020 --> 01:16:28,336
We're going to church now,
I go to church and I um,
1374
01:16:29,118 --> 01:16:33,138
have a strong faith,
and I have changed my life
1375
01:16:34,013 --> 01:16:37,466
and I want for her everything that...
1376
01:16:37,468 --> 01:16:40,428
I, I don't want her to ever have
to experience what I experienced.
1377
01:16:40,816 --> 01:16:42,994
In the moment? Thank you!
1378
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,008
For being who you are.
1379
01:16:46,010 --> 01:16:47,948
Cause you're a pretty cool dude.
- Oooo!
1380
01:16:48,890 --> 01:16:51,822
Ooo, can I get that in writing?!
- Sure! I can give it to you in writing!
1381
01:16:52,621 --> 01:16:54,714
You're welcome.
1382
01:16:55,207 --> 01:16:57,834
It's interesting.
I mean, what I'm sitting here thinking is,
1383
01:16:57,879 --> 01:17:00,964
I wonder how many other people
out there can have this kind
1384
01:17:00,966 --> 01:17:02,378
of conversation with their parents.
1385
01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:05,643
I mean most people can't sit around and
think about their parents having sex, or,
1386
01:17:06,074 --> 01:17:08,698
especially fucking somebody other
than their mother.
1387
01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:11,036
I mean that alone would I think
irritate a lot of children.
1388
01:17:11,038 --> 01:17:15,660
But, it's very, normalized, in that sex
is a goody that should be enjoyed.
1389
01:17:15,662 --> 01:17:18,442
Um, and when you can
differentiate between sex
1390
01:17:18,444 --> 01:17:21,727
and love and everything
that happens in between,
1391
01:17:21,729 --> 01:17:24,334
um, it's a huge gift
that you can give yourself,
1392
01:17:24,336 --> 01:17:27,576
and lovers and partners
and friends and family.
1393
01:17:27,578 --> 01:17:31,179
And I'm grateful that that's,
that's my world.
1394
01:17:32,668 --> 01:17:33,675
Wow.
1395
01:17:35,235 --> 01:17:36,763
I'm impressed.
1396
01:17:37,903 --> 01:17:42,173
She, is my role model. She is my hero.
1397
01:17:42,705 --> 01:17:45,649
And, I think I learned a lot from my mom.
1398
01:17:46,110 --> 01:17:48,945
She's gone through a lot
and I even tell people that
1399
01:17:48,947 --> 01:17:51,201
she's my hero and she's my role model.
1400
01:17:51,203 --> 01:17:53,462
She's just like whatever,
I did it for my daughter
1401
01:17:53,464 --> 01:17:56,118
and now she's doing what she wants to
she owns her own business,
1402
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,829
and no matter how many people talk
down about her she's still does what
1403
01:17:59,831 --> 01:18:04,307
she wants to do and she's successful at it.
So, I guess she's just a good example of,
1404
01:18:04,309 --> 01:18:08,124
don't let other people bring you down,
just keep doing what you're doing
1405
01:18:08,126 --> 01:18:10,635
and you'll be successful
in what you wanna do.
1406
01:18:10,637 --> 01:18:14,274
So. I'm very proud of you!
Just so you know that!
1407
01:18:14,276 --> 01:18:16,486
Please don't start crying
cause then I'll start crying!
1408
01:18:16,493 --> 01:18:17,637
I'm not gonna cry!
1409
01:18:17,717 --> 01:18:19,109
I will start crying.
1410
01:18:19,354 --> 01:18:21,561
And since my husband died
there wasn't a lot
1411
01:18:21,563 --> 01:18:24,131
for me to look forward to
so it was kinda nice to have that.
1412
01:18:24,357 --> 01:18:27,831
Mom, your husband died?
1413
01:18:27,833 --> 01:18:32,256
Daddy. Where's Daddy?
Where's Daddy?
1414
01:18:32,258 --> 01:18:34,142
Up in the clouds.
1415
01:18:34,144 --> 01:18:36,795
There comes a point in our life
when family becomes first,
1416
01:18:36,797 --> 01:18:38,526
the first thing and the question,
1417
01:18:38,829 --> 01:18:43,334
the answer to the question,
it just doesn't even take a beat.
1418
01:18:43,336 --> 01:18:44,864
Sometimes...
1419
01:18:47,865 --> 01:18:50,613
And we have the opportunity to see
our friends and family.
1420
01:18:50,615 --> 01:18:55,090
I think Chuck would really
appreciate, that we're here today.
1421
01:18:56,235 --> 01:18:59,180
There was something uniquely
vital about Buck Adams that
1422
01:18:59,462 --> 01:19:01,203
could brighten up the darkest moment,
1423
01:19:01,205 --> 01:19:04,342
and put a grin on the face
of the bleakest situation.
1424
01:19:04,344 --> 01:19:08,991
With a body that appeared to be hewn
from a granite block of cement,
1425
01:19:09,895 --> 01:19:14,125
and an intensity that provided his fans
with a vicarious sustenance,
1426
01:19:14,196 --> 01:19:18,137
Buck Adams will always be remembered as
the guy who got it up when it counted.
1427
01:19:18,777 --> 01:19:24,392
You know like I said,
if you knew it was gonna happen...
1428
01:19:24,394 --> 01:19:26,582
what would you have said?
1429
01:19:27,878 --> 01:19:30,559
And you don't always get that chance.
1430
01:19:31,832 --> 01:19:36,850
Um, but right now, in my life,
I, regret doing porn.
1431
01:19:37,942 --> 01:19:43,066
I regret doing porn and I never thought,
1432
01:19:43,068 --> 01:19:48,886
ever, that I would be, who I became.
Houston.
1433
01:19:49,496 --> 01:19:53,908
I never thought I would be so big
and so recognizable
1434
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:58,440
and just, I just never thought that it
would turn into what it did, for me.
1435
01:19:58,442 --> 01:20:00,147
And God just says, Shelley,
1436
01:20:00,149 --> 01:20:04,138
I'm telling you, you need
to... you need to trust me,
1437
01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:06,416
I've got something better for you.
I love you.
1438
01:20:06,418 --> 01:20:11,063
I didn't save your ass all these years
not to give you something better.
1439
01:20:11,730 --> 01:20:14,927
Well, like, looking back, I didn't,
1440
01:20:14,929 --> 01:20:18,846
honestly I can't really like go,
on my computer and,
1441
01:20:18,848 --> 01:20:21,924
and look at stuff that I used to do anymore
1442
01:20:21,926 --> 01:20:24,791
it just makes me, I just, I'm so different.
1443
01:20:24,793 --> 01:20:27,623
I feel so different now like,
where I am in life.
1444
01:20:27,625 --> 01:20:30,974
It's really hard for me to believe
that I was that girl.
1445
01:20:31,703 --> 01:20:35,216
So yes, it has changed me.
For the better I believe.
1446
01:20:35,218 --> 01:20:39,394
The porn business has afforded me
a very comfortable life
1447
01:20:39,396 --> 01:20:43,204
it has allowed me to educate myself
in ways that I probably wouldn't
1448
01:20:43,206 --> 01:20:45,143
have been able to do before.
1449
01:20:45,145 --> 01:20:48,064
It's enabled me to travel
all over the world and,
1450
01:20:48,066 --> 01:20:50,570
meet new and interesting people.
1451
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:57,553
And it's allowed me to, have the,
have the cajones, if you will,
1452
01:20:57,555 --> 01:21:01,533
to try new and exciting things that I
probably wouldn't have done before.
1453
01:21:01,535 --> 01:21:03,108
I would have been afraid to do.
1454
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:06,439
I have no fear, to do anything.
1455
01:21:06,441 --> 01:21:09,047
You know because as people we have to fully
1456
01:21:09,049 --> 01:21:11,759
and freely accept ourself for
everything we are
1457
01:21:11,761 --> 01:21:13,802
and everything we're not
cause if we have compar...
1458
01:21:13,804 --> 01:21:18,332
If we compartmentalize,
we're never a whole self.
1459
01:21:18,662 --> 01:21:23,013
You know. Especially in like relationships,
we don't get to bring our whole self.
1460
01:21:23,758 --> 01:21:27,589
What I am afraid of the most is because
I've lasted so long
1461
01:21:27,591 --> 01:21:29,983
and this industry is now heading
towards its fourth decade
1462
01:21:29,985 --> 01:21:34,002
of presence on this earth, that the
people who created this business,
1463
01:21:34,004 --> 01:21:36,754
the Eric Edwardses, the Jamie Guillesses,
1464
01:21:36,756 --> 01:21:39,694
the John Lesleys,
the great pioneers of this business,
1465
01:21:39,696 --> 01:21:41,982
are not gonna be with us, forever, and,
1466
01:21:41,984 --> 01:21:45,473
I'd hoped to be around long enough
to honor them
1467
01:21:45,475 --> 01:21:47,842
but I don't wanna do it
fast and furiously because
1468
01:21:47,844 --> 01:21:51,536
when they start to fall by the wayside
somebody's gonna have to remember them.
1469
01:21:51,538 --> 01:21:54,250
It's based on a line that,
"there is no future
1470
01:21:54,252 --> 01:21:57,152
if in the present we fail to pay
homage to the past."
1471
01:21:57,154 --> 01:22:00,185
But a lot of them are now
in their fifties and sixties,
1472
01:22:00,187 --> 01:22:03,104
some of them in their seventies,
and somebody is
1473
01:22:03,106 --> 01:22:05,623
going to have to be there
to tell their stories.
1474
01:22:06,018 --> 01:22:08,599
Eventually this woman is gonna like say,
1475
01:22:08,998 --> 01:22:10,653
wwheeeeuuuheehehehuh.
1476
01:22:10,758 --> 01:22:14,238
And then when you're eighty-five
and you can't walk no more
1477
01:22:14,294 --> 01:22:16,063
and you're in a wheelchair she's gonna say
1478
01:22:16,065 --> 01:22:18,599
"You remember when you
wanted to have sex all day?
1479
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:22,222
Yeah, what do you mean, you want what?
Bap! What do you want? Bap!
1480
01:22:22,539 --> 01:22:24,670
No no no, now I'm getting back at you."
1481
01:22:25,434 --> 01:22:28,054
I miss many things about the business.
1482
01:22:29,403 --> 01:22:34,522
But, I guess the clearest way
to say it concisely would be,
1483
01:22:35,155 --> 01:22:37,150
the biblical phrase occurs to me,
1484
01:22:37,152 --> 01:22:39,772
"when I was a child I spake as a child,
1485
01:22:39,774 --> 01:22:42,626
and when I was a man,
I put away childish things."
1486
01:22:43,070 --> 01:22:45,268
I'm trying to think of like Joe Nameth.
1487
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:48,172
Joe, do you miss football?
Sure he does.
1488
01:22:48,174 --> 01:22:50,605
But he can't play like he used to play.
1489
01:22:50,607 --> 01:22:55,086
He's, sixty-five years old now.
I'm in the same place.
1490
01:22:55,559 --> 01:22:57,620
Am I happy I did porn? Uh, yeah,
1491
01:22:57,622 --> 01:23:00,319
I really don't have
too many regrets cause I,
1492
01:23:00,321 --> 01:23:03,066
it's so much stuff came out of it
that was positive.
1493
01:23:03,068 --> 01:23:04,904
I got to travel around the world, uh,
1494
01:23:04,906 --> 01:23:06,915
I met a lot of interesting people,
1495
01:23:07,723 --> 01:23:12,529
I'm way over my quota sexually, uh,
I think uh, people ask me and I,
1496
01:23:12,531 --> 01:23:16,328
I guess the estimate's, I've been with
like 3000 women or something like that,
1497
01:23:16,642 --> 01:23:22,432
most of them were awesome to work with,
still friends with a lot of 'em, so uh,
1498
01:23:22,434 --> 01:23:24,723
yeah, overall it was
a hell of an experience.
1499
01:23:24,725 --> 01:23:27,128
Essentially I am living my life right now
1500
01:23:27,263 --> 01:23:29,762
the way I wanna live it for the rest
of my life, and I wanna,
1501
01:23:29,871 --> 01:23:31,805
I wanna die doing what I'm doing right now.
1502
01:23:32,048 --> 01:23:33,859
How many people can say that?
1503
01:23:33,861 --> 01:23:37,104
Well I am, that I live here
and I have a place that I love this much
1504
01:23:37,106 --> 01:23:39,405
I think I'm as lucky as
anybody could be on earth.
1505
01:23:39,407 --> 01:23:41,910
Far as, I mean,
I dunno what the hell t'ask for.
1506
01:23:43,001 --> 01:23:44,952
I'm happy.
1507
01:23:45,467 --> 01:23:50,863
I'm not in a dark place,
I'm not suicidal, I'm not doing drugs.
1508
01:23:51,616 --> 01:23:54,177
You know I'm not self-destructive.
1509
01:23:54,179 --> 01:23:56,984
Um, but the last two years
has been a journey,
1510
01:23:56,986 --> 01:23:59,573
cause I was very
self-destructive before and,
1511
01:24:00,090 --> 01:24:02,242
I'm not saying it changed overnight,
1512
01:24:02,244 --> 01:24:04,931
I still have self-destructive thoughts,
1513
01:24:05,181 --> 01:24:11,328
but, um, I'm just in an,
healthier place all around.
1514
01:24:11,714 --> 01:24:15,099
You hear some people we talk to
who are leading normal lives,
1515
01:24:15,113 --> 01:24:17,831
and are doing pretty good, like how
the hell would you really know,
1516
01:24:17,833 --> 01:24:21,595
like, how would you know what really
goes on in their life at two a.m.?
1517
01:24:21,597 --> 01:24:24,833
The torment, the, you know,
how would you know that
1518
01:24:24,835 --> 01:24:28,132
they're gonna tell you about all the times
they've been rejected and isolated and,
1519
01:24:28,134 --> 01:24:30,833
and the horror and the shame that,
1520
01:24:30,835 --> 01:24:36,586
that their children confront and that,
their spouses confront, and the shame that
1521
01:24:36,588 --> 01:24:38,336
they've put their families through and,
1522
01:24:38,338 --> 01:24:41,420
and the relationships that have been
permanently broken.
1523
01:24:41,422 --> 01:24:44,282
I mean all the,
all the burned bridges behind them
1524
01:24:44,284 --> 01:24:45,757
because they've done sex work.
1525
01:24:45,759 --> 01:24:48,728
You know most families aren't proud
when their daughters become hookers.
1526
01:24:49,062 --> 01:24:54,947
I think the difference between me
and the other girls in the industry
1527
01:24:54,949 --> 01:25:01,306
was that I've really, enjoyed being there
and um, not just the sex
1528
01:25:01,308 --> 01:25:04,544
I mean I, used it to better myself
as a person.
1529
01:25:04,546 --> 01:25:07,410
I never let the industry
take advantage of me in any way.
1530
01:25:07,412 --> 01:25:09,536
I always took advantage of the industry.
1531
01:25:09,538 --> 01:25:12,533
I made phenomenal amounts of money
I've produced movies, I wrote movies,
1532
01:25:12,535 --> 01:25:15,186
I starred in them, hell people
were paying me
1533
01:25:15,188 --> 01:25:17,452
hundreds of dollars an hour
to sign autographs?
1534
01:25:17,454 --> 01:25:19,856
Woo hoo! I'm up, I'm with this!
1535
01:25:19,858 --> 01:25:21,559
Um, I just, I-I...
1536
01:25:21,561 --> 01:25:23,673
The other girls leave with a bad taste
in their mouth
1537
01:25:24,318 --> 01:25:27,484
and they-and I just, I have nothing
but good memories when I look back.
1538
01:25:27,584 --> 01:25:29,434
And right now
if I wanted to go back into porn
1539
01:25:29,440 --> 01:25:31,650
I could probably go get a contract
almost at any company
1540
01:25:31,686 --> 01:25:33,419
and still just do straight boy-girl scenes.
1541
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,969
And if I really wanted to when I'm 32
if I wanna go back to porn
1542
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:38,820
and because I'm really broke maybe
let's say, hopefully it won't happen,
1543
01:25:38,821 --> 01:25:40,614
I would tell a porn company guess what,
1544
01:25:40,616 --> 01:25:42,593
I'm gonna come back and do
two guys and do anal.
1545
01:25:42,595 --> 01:25:44,683
If I'm thirty-five and really poor
I need to do porn,
1546
01:25:44,685 --> 01:25:47,384
I'll tell 'em I'll do, you know,
a black guy. Heh!
1547
01:25:47,729 --> 01:25:49,534
There isn't that much of a future
1548
01:25:49,536 --> 01:25:52,558
after the x-rated industry because somehow,
1549
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,474
somewhere, somebody will find you.
1550
01:25:54,476 --> 01:25:56,368
The famous line I used to say to anybody
1551
01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:58,537
walking into my office
when I ran the biggest agency,
1552
01:25:58,539 --> 01:26:01,629
what are you gonna do ten years from now
when your kid brings home a magazine
1553
01:26:01,631 --> 01:26:04,356
with you laying in the middle of it
with a candle shoved up your ass?
1554
01:26:04,357 --> 01:26:06,928
You gonna tell'em you were playing
the part of a birthday cake?
1555
01:26:06,933 --> 01:26:09,400
It doesn't go away.
1556
01:26:09,476 --> 01:26:12,664
My husband and my son changed my life.
1557
01:26:14,991 --> 01:26:17,026
And my son saved my life.
1558
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,508
And looking at him every day,
1559
01:26:22,968 --> 01:26:26,015
reminds me how precious life is.
1560
01:26:27,420 --> 01:26:31,278
And how throwing it away
on drugs and alcohol,
1561
01:26:32,287 --> 01:26:35,609
just this stupid crap that's out there,
1562
01:26:37,008 --> 01:26:39,810
god, it's just so not worth it. You know?
1563
01:30:30,793 --> 01:30:32,793
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