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Thank you very much.

Thank you, everyone. I appreciate it.

Welcome to the show.

Hi.

Thank you. Okay.

So much to get to. Good news and bad
news for the Jews.

A peace deal in Gaza.

We have that in the hostages' homes.

That is the good news.

The bad news is Bobby Kennedy says
circumcision causes autism.

So I... It's a kind of a mixed bag for
the Jews today. But yes,

the... How about that? Finally, peace
over there. After two years, the

Palestinians are returning to Palestine,
the hostages coming back to Israel, and

everyone's blown away that Trump pulled
it off. I don't know why.

I mean, if there's one thing he's good
at, it's sending people back where they

came from.

But, I mean, look.

We're going to talk about it on the
show. I mean, I think you've got to give

credit where credit is due. I mean, a
lot of people tried to pull this off. He

did. He is beloved in Israel more than
any other president ever for a good

reason. He also won over the Arabs.

He's the only thing besides hummus they
both like.

That's his big thing, solving wars. You
know, he said he solved many of them

around the world. He's gotten involved.
It's true. And he's meeting with Putin

in Hungary in a couple of weeks.

Today with Zelensky at the White House.
Zelensky is asking for Tomahawk missiles

to fire at Russia. And Trump said, we'd
love to, but we might need them for

Chicago.

Oh, yeah.

He's a little more popular overseas than
he is here. There's a big rally

tomorrow. Are you going to go? No King's
Day?

Oh, you are?

This is all the people who are upset
about the obviously anti -democratic

he's doing here, and they are getting
out in the streets. They're saying, we

not going to take this lying down.

Milling around? Yes, we'll do it milling
around.

I was going to go, but I went into the
attic to find my pussy hat and the moths

had gotten to it.

No,

the Republicans are saying this is not
no King's Day. They said this is Hate

America Day.

Yeah, liberals hate America.

That's what they think. Yeah, if you
won't stop assembling freely and

freely, we're going to send our mass,
unaccountable, secret police to arrest

you, as America should be.

No.

No, I mean, Trump does not like this,
being called a king. He said, I am not a

king, and the next person who calls me
one, they're going to find their ass in

the dungeon, let me tell you.

He denied it. He said, I am not a king.

I have no intention of becoming a king.
But if some country wants to donate a

gold crown, I'm not going to say no.

King.

Why would you think king? Did the
enemies list?

You know.

Enemies list. I remember when Nixon, you
know, they accused Nixon of having an

enemies list, and he denied it. Trump
reads it out loud.

I'm not kidding. He just reads it out
loud.

That's a little bit of a difference.

The latest one, I mean, Comey's
indicted. Letitia James is indicted. Now

Bolton, his former national security
advisor, wrote a book about him. Not a

idea.

He's indicted. Trump is going after
everyone that ever pissed him off. He's

an authoritarian Taylor Swift.

It's amazing.

But hey.

Here's an interesting story. Are there
any young Republicans here?

Yeah.

Wow.

To be a young Republican.

Well, it's a group. I didn't know it was
an official group. And boy, are they in

hot water.

They were on a group chat saying the
most vile things. I mean, racist,

anti -Semitic, awful things. And now
Democrats want these people fired.

Republicans even are issuing apologies.

And Stephen Miller said, they grow up so
fast.

But this is where we are in America.

Caroline Levitt, she's the...

president's press spokesman. This is a
very official position.

This is a quote from her. He said,
Democrats' main constituency are Hamas

terrorists, illegal aliens, and violent
criminals.

Okay, but we do make a killer mocha
frappuccino.

Not all bad. All right, we've got a
great show. Mark Cuban and Andrew Ross

Darkin are here.

But first up, oh, I've waited for this
moment for so many years.

a man who conquered both politics and
show business superstardom, not to

bodybuilding. He's the author of the
number one best -selling book, Be

Arnold Schwarzenegger is finally here.

Arnold,

how are you?

Great to be in California.

Yes. I thought you'd be bigger.

No, I mean, you're larger than life, but
you were like almost the same height. I

thought that you would have better abs.

I don't know how you'd know

that, but all right.

But your opening monologue was
fantastic.

Oh, thank you very much.

I'm here every week, you know.

But I know you're here to talk about a
serious subject, and it's an interesting

subject, which there are two sides to. I
think I'm on the other side of it than

you, but just basically what's going on
in this country is, to give the broader

picture, Trump does everything ten times
more than other people have done.

Everybody always gerrymandered.

He's taken it to a completely new level.

He's getting legislatures now to redraw
districts.

This is where the politicians pick the
voters when really the people should be

picking the politicians.

You reformed this in California and said
we don't want that, which is the right

thing to do in sort of just the macro.

But things have changed. Would you not
say if the Republicans are doing it, how

can the Democrats unilaterally disarm?

He wants Indiana now to be a state
that's going to have zero Democrat

representatives. If Texas is doing it,
now California's Prop 50, Gavin Newsom

wants us to undo what you did, made it
fair, and go back to this because we

can't unilaterally disarm. What is your
argument now, given the new information?

Well, I think that Prop 50 is a big
scam.

And the reason why I'm saying that is
because it says that we should fight

because he's a threat to democracy.

But in the meantime, they want to go and
tear up the Constitution in California,

get rid of the independent commission
that draws the district lines and take

power away from the people and give it
back to the politicians.

So how does this go, fighting democracy?

or helping democracy or fighting Trump
and imitating what Texas is doing.

I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me,
the whole thing. Well, it makes sense

in that the Democrats have no power now.
The only power they can have is if they

win the midterm elections and take back
the House. If only the Republicans get

to gerrymander, the Democrats will never
take back the House.

No, no, gerrymandering is going on. It
has been going on for 200 years. Not on

this level.

Look, there are states out there that
have 40 % of Republicans and only have

like 20 % representation in Congress.

There's the opposite also true. So
there's gerrymandering going on all

What we wanted to do in California is we
wanted to be leaders.

And we wanted to show to America that
California has always been a leader. It

goes in California, then it goes
nationwide.

So we finally, after a long kind of a
battle, we passed.

legislation, not only legislation, but I
mean the people actually voted for an

independent commission.

And now we have had this independent
commission and the politicians in

California have performed much better
because of this kind of a fair

drawing of districts, so to speak.

And so I think that to undo all of that
and to take away the power, this is a

trick that you have to understand.

The Democrats are fighting the
Republicans. The Republicans are

Democrats.

But you know something?

One of them is going to win.

Yes, it's going to be the Republicans
because they didn't follow your example

into the halls of nobleness. But you
know who I want to win?

The people.

The people are to win.

This is what this is about.

I'm a Republican, but I'm not a
Republican hack.

I'm not a political hack. I don't serve
the party. I always serve the people.

The people are first. We cannot undo
something and rip away...

the power that the people in California
have and give it back to the

politicians. We fought that for too
long.

Let's not do that. Let us be a good
example.

Let the Democrats outperform the
Republicans and therefore, because of

performance, win and get the House back.

I don't think that's very realistic,
but... I read your speech at the 2004

convention. I remember it very well,
where you talked about why I'm a

Republican. I was very moved by it at
the time. I thought it was a great

I'm sure you remember it well. You
talked about growing up at a time when

was actually occupied, right?

That's right. Austria was still occupied
by the Russians. Right. So you saw

socialism firsthand.

And that's why when you came to America,
you didn't know it.

parties were. You didn't know which. And
you heard the Democrats speak. And then

you heard, I think, Nixon talk. And you
heard the ideas of the Republican Party.

And you said, I'm a Republican.

I hear that. That's what I get that. You
think that's still the party? You think

that still applies to the Republican
Party? What made you want to be a

Republican where they are today?

Bill, things change.

It's very clear that it has changed.

I'm a traditional Republican.

I'm the kind of a Republican like
Lincoln.

who made sure that slavery stops.

He made sure that the blacks got the
right to vote.

He made sure the Republican Party then
made sure that the blacks become

of the United States and get the
citizenship.

All of those kind of things.

Republicans did that. Look what has
happened over the years, how things have

changed. And this is how we are going to
change it. But it doesn't mean we have

to give up. I'm still a traditional
Republican because, remember, it was...

Nixon that created the EPA.

in Washington to make sure that we have
clean air and clean water.

Republican. Ronald Reagan here created
the Air Resources Board that enabled us

to reduce our greenhouse gases by 25 %
and to have the million solar roofs and

to get our renewables up to 70%. And all
of this kind of stuff is because of the

Air Resources Board that Ronald Reagan
created. So there were great

The party has changed now. This is
clear, but it doesn't mean that we have

change. We have to fight to get the
party back and to get it for last. I

think

the people should know that it is
important that we serve the people,

not the parties.

They make it their business to fight
amongst each other. Look at this, the

popular thing in America, for instance,
universal background check.

90 % of the people have a universal
background check.

But it's not getting done.

I mean, think about that. Who's holding
that up? The politicians.

Well, not the Democratic politicians. It
doesn't matter. They have to get

together and solve those problems.

This is what negotiating is all about. I
was a Republican, and I was in

Sacramento. I got together with the
Democrats, and I made it very clear.

I maybe think differently than you
sometimes, but you're not my enemy.

I love working with you because with the
Republican brain and with the

Democratic brain together, we have the
ultimate brain power and we can really

accomplish things.

But that's California.

California isn't America. California is
one of those states, yes, where a

moderate Republican governor can do well
because it's a very blue state.

You might say it's too blue because we
have this somebody running for governor

now, Katie Porter, and we saw she had a
lot of problems this week with her

image. And she was asked a question
about what would you do to get the Trump

voters in this state? And I think it was
very telling what her answer was, which

was basically, why are you even asking
that question? Why would I care about

trying to get these deplorables on my
side? I don't need them because this is,

yes, wow.

I'm paraphrasing, but that was the
attitude. Because she doesn't, probably,

because the state is so blue. You're the
last Republican.

You're really the last Republican from
California, the last guy who got elected

in this state.

Well, you know, let me tell you
something.

We're talking here about saving
democracy.

What I suggest is that the way we save
democracy nationwide is to really have a

proposal like, for instance, the Save
Democracy Act.

It's just an idea where we go and make
election day a holiday so

that everyone has time to go out and go
to the election.

Again,

this is something Democrats are all for
and Republicans are all against.

There's a second point. The second point
is you have to have fair redistricting,

to have independent redistricting
commission.

in each state all over the United
States.

Yeah. Except they won't do it. A voter

ID. So that when you go and vote, people
should know that you are that person.

These are all things that they have back
in Europe.

So I come from Europe, I just said yes,
not that I created this idea. Those are

things that are happening in Europe and
have happened for centuries.

So this is why I think that it is
important that we do the same thing

think if we take those three things,
there's something that the Republicans

like, there's something that the
Democrats like.

Get together and solve this problem.
It's the same. It's no different than

talking about energy or anything like
that, where Democrats and Republicans

get together. You give something to the
Republicans, you create more nuclear

power. You give something to the
Democrats, create more renewable power.

of a sudden, we have 80 % of energy, of
clean energy in America. This is the way

we have to do it. We have to go talk to
each other rather than hating each

other. Talk to each other because that's
what the people want, and that's what

the people need.

Okay.

Last question, I'll let you go, but I
have to ask you because you also

the world of show business in a big way.
What do you think about what's going on

in movies? I mean, I hear people just
fretting so much about it because, oh,

one's going to the theater anymore, for
example.

You know, we can watch it in our house.

You know what? Good.

I like watching it in my house.

I mean, they're trying to make me feel
terrible about it, like, oh, the

experience of being in a theater and
hearing somebody else laugh. I don't

fuck if this guy's laughing.

I... Oh, my goodness,

the guy in row 32B loves it.

And streaming. I mean, what is your take
on the movie industry right now as a

big movie? I think that the movie
business is doing really well.

I think that California is kind of out
of the game because we don't have the

incentive that other states have and
that other countries have.

But the bottom line is I think there's
some really good movies. Whenever a good

movie comes out like Avatar is going to
come out again around Christmas time, I

guarantee you they're going to make over
a billion dollars again and everyone is

going to go and run to the theater. Why?

Because it's a good movie.

Jim Cameron makes great movies. So if a
movie is not that good, why would you be

excited to go and pay for the parking,
pay for your drink, pay for the popcorn,

pay for the tickets, and then they sit
in the theater and look at some shit,

right? We don't want to do that.

We don't want to look at shit.

Thank you so much for coming.

I'm not Schwarzenegger. I'm the biggest
fan, you know.

All right.

Governor Schwarzenegger. Thank you.

Let's meet our panel.

Hey, guys. All right.

He is co -anchor on CSNBC's Squawk Box
and founder of the New York Times

Dealbook, whose new book is 1929, Inside
the Greatest Crash in Wall Street

History and How It Shattered a Nation.
We are going to get to it tonight.

R. Sorkin is here.

And, well, now, this guy, he's a
minority owner.

Minority now? Oh, no.

What happened?

How the mighty have fallen of the NBA's
Dallas Mavericks and co -founder of Cost

Plus Drugs, Mark Cuban.

Okay.

All right.

Let's talk about the Middle East first.
We are confronted here with a dilemma, I

feel like. There is President Trump, the
overseas hero, who does make... Good

deals overseas, it looks like. Not just
this place, but a couple other ones.

And then domestically, the threatener of
democracy.

My first question is just, can we
separate these two?

Because they are two different things,
and some people do not want to.

I'm a separator usually, like I can
recognize that R. Kelly should not have

sex with little boys or little girls.

But Ignition is still a great jam, you
know, and I kind of hope.

Play it tonight if I feel like it. But
what's your first answer on that? Can we

separate them and just give them? Hold
two ideas in your head at the same time.

Thank you. There you go. Absolutely.

You can give this president a standing
ovation for getting to this point and

give him the Nobel Peace Prize, right?

I think you can look at this and say,
this is a very good situation.

It's something that has not happened for
the last two years. We've been waiting

for this moment. And then we're going to
have to see. But why?

It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the
Nobel Democracy Prize.

Well, the question is, do we have real
peace? And I think the jury is going to

be out on that. We'll see where we get.

But give him credit. You can not like
this president at all. No one's going to

be good at everything, right? And if
he's good at getting deals done

give him credit for it. If he's not so
good domestically, give him shit for it.

From my memory and history, The only
thing that compares to this is when

solved the Cold War, ended the Cold War,
which I always said was, you know,

Reagan did play his part in ending the
Cold War. But I think the Soviet Union

was going to collapse anyway, of its own
way, right?

This, I'm not so sure, isn't an actually
greater achievement, if at last, and if

we have, but it looks like they're
transforming the whole Middle East. So

not going to hide my, yes, we certainly
have had our differences.

And even after the dinner, he's still
bitching at me.

So for those people who thought... It's
okay to give credit where credit is.

It's okay. It's okay. And I am not going
to hide my admiration for somebody who

did this differently than anybody else
did and said, without apology, I'm with

Israel. You know what? There's only one
country in this whole equation, and this

is where America, I think, fell down in
the past. We tried to be even, Steve,

and it wasn't. There's only one country
that's a democracy.

There's only one country that prizes
life over the...

sort of cult of death.

It's only one country where you'd
actually want to live, quite frankly, if

were living in the Middle East. So let's
throw our lot in with them. A country

that actually shares our values.

I mean, you start with the Abraham
Accord, right? Slowly but surely, they

developed the relationships, worked
together with each other in countries,

Jared over to get the job done, and they
deserve credit.

Why not give credit where credit is due?
I mean, if this thing holds, I don't

know if he deserves the Nobel Peace
Prize. And that becomes the question.

will say, should he get the Nobel Peace
Prize if it actually works?

And that, given what you just said about
the domestic peace, if you will, that's

still going to be in question. But I
agree 100%. You know, I actually looked

who votes on the Nobel Peace Prize. And
it's a bunch of academics.

It's not the type of people. It's
bullshit, like the Emmys. Well, but

it's a bunch.

It may be bullshit, but if it's
academics that are voting, there's no

academics are going to vote for Donald
Trump, period, end of story. But what I

think he should get credit for
especially is just changing the way he

this. They did it the same three,
administration after administration

same thing, and it didn't work, and they
kept doing it. And now they sound like

these three real estate guys over there.
Well, that's the thing. They look at

Witkoff, and they look at Jared Kushner,
and they think, what are they doing?

And yet they make it work.

So why is that? And what does that say
about experts and expertise? I'll tell

you why.

Because, first of all, the Trump
doctrine, which was basically, we don't

anybody.

You know what?

Cutting off the head of that journalist,
not cool, but, you know, everybody's

got their thing. And, you know, Biden
didn't talk to Saudi Arabia for a year

after that. We're not talking to you.
And then he had to.

He had to go over there because it's
Saudi Arabia, because they have the oil,

and they're the counterweight to Iran,
and we had to talk to them. Trump

play that game. And he said, look, we've
always put Palestine itself at the

center of this. And we're going to,
Palestine, which is never, let's be

an actual country.

Okay, he said, we're going to make deals
with the actual countries.

There's some actual countries there.

Like Saudi Arabia, and like Bahrain, and
like Morocco, and all the other

countries, United Arab Emirates. We're
going to deal with them. And you know

what? They were waiting for someone to
do that. Because the Arabs, more than

anybody, knew this was bullshit.

They could have made Palestine its own
country from 1948 to 1967 when they had

it, and they didn't. So they know who's
bullshitting more than anybody.

It's amazing.

The Jews like him, and the Arabs like
him. That's quite a hat trip. Yep.

You know,

why not?

Have you noticed that now that Hamas has
taken over again, they're what?

Shooting everybody.

Shooting everybody. Where are the
protesters?

Suddenly the, you know, the keffiyeh
-wearing college kids are very quiet.

Yeah, can't be found anywhere.

This is okay?

It's just amazing the asymmetry of what
goes on. Because of all the sympathy.

Look. You can, again, this is the two
ideas in your head at the same time that

for some reason most people don't seem
to want to participate in, which is you

can look at Hamas and say that's a
terrible terrorist organization and hate

them, which you should, and at the same
time have some sympathy for the

Palestinian people. I can do that. And
by the way, I'm an American Jew who

thinks that Israel needs to be supported
in all this.

I don't understand why we as a country
can't have that conversation and just

it like it is.

Yeah. The other thing is... Personal
relationships.

It just showed.

I know the world is run by giant
bureaucracies, but every, no matter how

bureaucracy is, there's always somebody
at the head of it. It's personal

relationships and how people, just one
person deals with another person. And

human element, it reminds me of your
book, quite frankly, because it's all

Wall Street. It's numbers and it's all
this important, but really - It's about

people. It's about people and the nature
of people and the nature of whether

they're going to panic and what makes
them panic.

And, I mean, according to your book, and
I believe you're right, that has not

changed from 1929.

I got a little scared reading your book.

Well, look, I think there's reasons to
be a little scared reading the book. I'm

not here to panic people.

I wrote this book about 1929 because I
wanted to write a story about the

like the actual people on the ground so
we could actually understand who they

were, what they were saying, what their
incentives were, what their motivations

were. And I think you're right. You
realize that all these economic systems,

structures, politics, policy is a story
about people and the decisions they

make. And it's about people like Jared
Kushner could have been in that book, if

you will, meaning going off and trying
to make a deal.

And it was about the personal
relationship that led to that deal, not

Put 1929 and what's happening in the
Middle East all in one pocket. But the

broader story is it's the story about
human beings, and the relationships

ultimately matter to almost everything
that ultimately happened.

And I know you don't want to cause the
panic, but I've got to say, you know,

you're like the guy on a car.

Are you sure that this is not going to
be a little bit of a self -fulfilling

prophecy? I swear to you, as I was
writing this book, I thought I was

history book. Now, the problem is, the
truth was, as I was writing the book, I

was seeing things in the headlines.

I'd be talking about things on TV,
writing about things in the paper, and

go, oh, my, that's exactly like that.

You know, 1930 comes around.

Smoot -Hawley tariffs are taking place.

Hoover decides he needs to do this
because he pledged to the farmers who

vote for him that he needed their vote,
and now he says he wants to. And every

economist in America back then was
screaming from the rooftop saying,

don't do this, please don't do this.

Fast forward, what, just a couple months
ago, same story. Every economist is

signing full -page ads in the New York
Times saying, President Trump, please

don't do this, please don't do this, and
here we are. But also the technology

aspect of it. You know, that was what
really got me.

This economy seems to now be more and
more propped up by AI, as was in the

electricity.

AI was radio.

Everybody was excited about radio and
telecommunications, and RCA was like the

NVIDIA of...

Of 1929, everybody wanted in on the
action, and they were all running to the

brokers to make their bet and to gamble
on it, and they thought this was the

future. On margin, just like today? And
they were doing it on margin. Well,

you're a guy who certainly made your
fortune betting on the new technology 25

years ago.

And today? What do you think of AI? I
think it's overrated. No, I think it's

underrated. Underrated, as I say.

But, but.

Where we are today is just a smidgen of
where it's going to be. We're still in

the first preseason game in the first
inning. And what we see with chat GPT

large language models and AI
girlfriends, that's just the here and

not where we're going to end up. And I
think it's going to make us a lot worse.

You're going to end up with AI wives.
What are you going to end up with?

I'm not saying no.

Put a robot in there and anything is
possible.

What's really the challenge is it goes
back to 1929.

You've got five companies effectively
trying to find out if this is a winner

-take -all AI market, right, or is there
going to be one, two, three, four, five

winners. If it's winner -take -all,
they're going to keep on spending money,

you can end up in five, ten years with
those data centers just being hollowed

out and not being used at all. And that
would create a calamity.

Speak against my book for a second.

There's one thing that we need to
remember, which is to some degree, and I

always preaching caution, but
speculation built America.

It's true. When you think about all of
the great technological revolutions that

are taking place, whether it was
technology in that period or in the dot

boom or AI now, there was somebody who
had to speculate on it.

Right. When the first investors in Elon
Musk's Tesla, when that seemed like a

completely absurd idea, they were
speculating on it. And so we need to

out a way to both have some semblance of
speculation in the system, but to do it

with guardrails and to do it in a way
that's responsible.

And that is a hard needle to thread
because humanity. The stock market is

speculation. The stock market is not the
top companies.

They're not the ones that actually make
the most money. Sometimes the top ones

aren't making any money. Oh, no, of
course. It's seven companies driving the

entire market. It's just what they think
they're going to do. And we learned a

good lesson from crypto, right? The
question is, who's on the other side of

trade, right? What happened with Sam
Bankman Freed, they were loaning out

and loaning out crypto, but nobody was
taking the risk. Everybody was just

kicking the can down the road.

That's what I think happened way back
when, right? And that's the risk now.

you're starting to see, and you can
speak better of this than I can, with

commercial. real estate. We don't even
know how much commercial real estate

loans are just being kicked down the
road and just being renewed, renewed,

renewed without ever hope of being paid.
Let me tell you why I think AI is

overrated. I just mean overrated as
something that's going to be good for

economy. One, it's just going to put
everybody out of work.

That cannot be good for the economy when
it can do just about everybody's job.

And also there's this idea that it's
going to make us more efficient. I think

already passed that. I don't think the
economy can... Can Amazon really get

efficient? Can an Amazon warehouse...
But Amazon can be replaced.

What? Amazon can be replaced. Replaced?
Amazon?

Without question, yes. With what? Just
like RCA. RCA was the dominant company.

Well, how do you replace Amazon?

By finding different ways to deliver
product. By finding different...

Amazon just destroys small businesses.

Anybody can walk in right now and be
from China and not have to register

company in the United States of America.
That is going to backfire on Amazon.

All my Shark Tank companies hate working
with Amazon. You still need a truck or

something to bring the crunchy to your
house. Right, but it's knowing what to

buy, knowing what to sell, the pricing,
the logistics.

Amazon has market dominance right now. I
think AI gives smaller companies a

chance to compete with it. Oh, I see.

Look, in the end, I think, and you were
talking about commercial real estate and

everything else, the thing that I worry
about that creates a true crisis every

single time is leverage in the system.
Too much debt. When you have too much

debt in the system, that's the match
that lights the fire.

Every single time.

And what we don't know today is where
all the leverage is anymore.

So it used to be that we understood that
credit was in the banks. Banks were the

ones who were loaning out money. That's
not where people get a loan anymore.

They get it from all of these other
places, the shadow banking system. And

have no idea what that looks like. And
that's the part actually that makes me

nervous. I'm very excited about AI. I
think actually AI is going to change our

world. But I am also with you, which is
to say that if AI is as successful as I

think we all want it to be.

To some degree, it has to make us so
much more productive. What does

productivity mean? That's a euphemism
oftentimes, I think, for taking costs

and jobs. I have to cover all the
stories. That's what we do here. The

in the news. I don't know if you...
What?

I have to tell you, this is true.

I don't know if you heard, but I think
it was just this year that we got a

new... The Vatican dropped a new Pope.

An American.

Real name Bob, stripper name Leo.

And he was speaking with journalists at
a Vatican conference this week,

and I didn't know this was on his radar,
but he's very concerned with clickbait.

He said communication must be freed from
the misguided thinking that corrupts it

and the degrading practice of so -called
clickbait.

Popes used to care about masturbation,
and now they're...

Clickbait is what this guy... And I
didn't realize there's a whole genre

Catholic clickbait. Would you like to
see it?

Catholic.

Catholic clickbait.

For example, remember baby Jesus? You
won't believe what he looks like now.

This penance hack will get you in and
out of a confessional in seconds.

We asked five mother superiors the best
classroom object to hit a child with and

they all said the same thing.

The eight masturbation work around your
priest doesn't want you to know.

Would you believe this started out as
water? Find out how.

You won't believe what this guy did
next.

This friar took a vow of silence until
he heard Taylor Swift's song about

Travis Kelsey's dick.

The best month for celebrating
Christmas.

Well, that should be obvious.

He became the world's most famous
carpenter without making a single piece

furniture. Can you guess his name?

Can you guess which one of these
apostles is a snitch? Play our game.

Let me ask you a broader, both of you
economic geniuses, a broader economic

question. Well, economic and political,
because it seems to me that there are

two pillars that this country is founded
on. One is democracy, and one is

capitalism, free markets.

And it seems like one party wants to get
rid of one, and the other party wants

to get rid of the other.

Right? Republicans are not that...
Democracy is just not number one on

list. It just isn't.

It isn't. It's behind Christianity and a
few other things.

And the Democrats, I mean, I read these
74 % are for democratic

socialism. Only 16 % favor capitalism.

Is this going to be a country that I
don't recognize in five to ten years if

don't have these two pillars?

I mean, where are the Democrats going
with this?

If Mondami is the face of the Democrats
on the East Coast and Katie Porter is

the face on the West Coast, I don't know
if that's great politically for that

party. It could be quite fun. No. I
mean, there is a challenge, right? Kids

don't like capitalism.

And I think a lot of it has to do with
social media, the clickbait, right?

Rage bait works better in social media
and gets more people's attention.

Mondami is out there saying, you're
getting free housing, you're getting

transportation, you're getting cheaper
groceries.

I mean, of course, that's what they
need, particularly in New York, and

what they're going to respond positively
to.

Is there any way that can work?

No. No, of course not. No!

Look, we have a financial...

literacy problem in America.

But the financial literacy problem in
America is affecting the politics in

America, which is that if you don't
understand that if you actually decide

you think rent stabilization is going to
somehow increase the supply of

apartments and homes in the country,
you've got it completely backwards.

what happens is...

The developers say, well, if they're
going to stabilize the rent in this

we don't really want to be developing in
this town, in which case there's not

going to be enough supply, in which case
it's going to cost more to rent your

apartment. That's just the way it is.
And unless people understand that, when

politician stands up and says, excuse
me, I'm over here, and I'm very happy to

give you rent stabilization and the free
groceries and this and that, and then

it doesn't happen.

I think people are going to be in for a
surprise.

But at the same time, I think Mondami's
great for the Democratic Party. You do?

And I'll tell you why. Okay. Because
nobody... Okay, ready? Are you ready?

ready. I'm ready. Because nobody in the
Democratic Party knows how to sell but

him. Nobody in the Democratic Party
knows how to use social media but him.

They will learn from him. Now, New York
may be fucked for four years, right?

But they will learn from him.

But seriously, right? Who in the
Democratic Party knows how to sell,

to convey a message, knows how to commit
to people, right? Yeah, it depends what

the message is, though. I've seen it.
Look, we've been living through it.

No, but just know how to sell anyway.

You know, if you gave a Democrat a
dollar bill and told him to sell it for

cents, they wouldn't be able to do it.
Sure. Donald Trump is a fabulous

communicator. He is.

Right? He is. Look where it's gotten
him, right? You've got to learn from

Yes, but I think you disagree with his
message, and that's my point. No, of

course I do. So the fact that this guy
is a fabulous messenger.

If you don't have the message.

I'm not saying it's good for the city,
but what I'm saying is he's a little

Donald Trump.

You know, he's trying.

Yeah, for sure. Always in a suit. He
could be anywhere. Bernie Sanders rolls

his sleeves, wants to connect.

Mondami's always in a suit. He's telling
you what you want to hear. He has a

social media team that designs the
message, and it comes across geared

Gen Z, geared towards even younger
people, and they're accepting it. That's

of the reasons people want, young kids
want socialism, because of his ability

sell, just like Donald Trump won because
of his ability to sell. I'm not going

to compare. say you're wrong because I
don't know because I would not have

guessed the Trump 10 years ago would be
where he is. I was watching the Katie

Porter thing. Do we have any footage of
Katie Porter this week having a

meltdown? Show that because I have a
question I would like to ask about that.

I feel like this isn't necessarily
argumentative. I don't want to keep

this. I'm going to call it.

Thank you.

And the state could lose... You're out
of my fucking shot!

I remember having Katie Porter on this
show, and we did not get along. I don't

like her, and I found out nobody likes
her.

And I think you see why.

But that doesn't mean this isn't
effective. I mean, when it came out, the

wave of stories where she's toast.

I don't know. First of all, I got to
ask, what was that person doing in the

shot?

I mean, that's not how I would talk to
my staff.

No. But that is what I would be thinking
is, what are you doing in my fucking

shop?

In this world, in this new age we're in,
I'm not so sure this... Because you

think it looks like it's a truth
-telling situation.

You go, oh, there's a real person. And
it looks, I think, like, Trump reflects

the frustration that people have and the
anger that they sometimes have.

This reflects, I think, the, you know
what?

Nobody's doing their goddamn job.

And I've had it up to here, and I'm not
going to fake it anymore.

People don't like faking anything.

This is a new age of politics. I think
she's auditioning for Horrible Bosses 3.

I agree.

I don't know that it conveys any votes.

I'm going to throw here in the following
way.

We're all trying to comport ourselves
into a way where we look like we're a

certain thing.

And when people see that, they go,
there's something that feels real about

Because I'm sure you've been in
interviews where you've been like, F

person. Oh, of course. I can't believe
they're asking me these questions. I

to get out of the chair. Hey, I'm
sitting right here.

If her employees didn't say she was
awful, you would be right. Because no

goes to work and wants to be shit on.
And when you see a boss be shitting on

their employees, I don't think it works
for them. That's not a good sign. I just

think it's an angry country full of
assholes. And, you know, it's like, hey,

of us. One of us. But I got to ask
about... I'll

probably see you tomorrow at the No
Kings thing, but...

I mean, what is going on? Caroline
Leavitt, as I mentioned in the

this is the president's spokesperson.

This is not just somebody at the end of
the bar.

This is not just somebody ranting on
social media.

The Democratic Party's main consensus is
made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal

aliens, and violent... criminals.

I mean, I see where the seed of all this
comes from. Hamas terrorists, yes,

idiot college students, youthful idiots
who've been out there and were out there

demonstrating for the wrong people.
Okay.

Illegal aliens, yes.

Biden had a terrible border policy.
Violent criminals, yes, did too much of

that. But the Democratic Party's main
constituency, and this is what the no

kings thing is about, if people are
wondering, is that it looks to me Like,

either they really believe this, which
is insane, or they are just always

looking for a pretext to say, to let the
other side take over this country is

just unthinkable. I mean, if you really
believe this, I would vote for a right

-wing coup if I really thought half the
country was Hamas terrorists, illegal

aliens, and violent criminals.

What do we do about that? They're not
taking the Governor Schwarzenegger

approach to trying to bring people
together.

I think they're

signaling to all right -wing media.
That's what they do really well. The top

creates the rage bait, and then all the
right -wing podcasters and all the right

-wing news sources, they go and get in
alignment with the same thing.

That's what they're really good at, you
know, rage farming.

But it looks to me like they are looking
for a pretext always.

The sending the troops to Portland and
Chicago and now this thing that's going

on tomorrow. I think they're rooting for
violence because when violence happens,

then it gives you the pretext to then
send in more troops. And they've already

shown they're already shown that they
will.

absolutely not concede elections.

Trump still has not publicly conceded
the 2020 election. So, like, when you

this, if this is really the state of the
country, I can see we have to cancel

the next election.

There's just too much unrest.

We'll get back to elections, but we have
to... Once we get things safe. Once we

get things safe. This is what this looks
like. Or at least they have earned the

suspicion. Oh.

And I imagine you think six months
before the next election, There will be,

know, a blue ribbon panel that will be
announced to look into election

as they delay the election for 12
months.

Blue ribbon panel?

Oh, it'll be chaired by Pam Bondi.

I

don't think

this crowd is big on blue ribbon panels.

Blue ribbon bake -offs, maybe.

But the through line on all of these
things is one thing. It's leverage.

I mean, and I'm not talking about
leverage. We were talking about 1929.

talking about leverage over other
people. That's what all of this is

right? Whether you're standing the
National Guard, that's about leverage.

Whether you're going after the law firms
or going after the universities, that's

about leverage. Whether you're going
after certain countries with tariffs,

that's about leverage. That is what,
that's the single piece of the whole

No one knows how to use leverage better
than Donald Trump.

What it's about is hanging on to power
by making a case that it is an

existential necessity for our side to
hold on to power because this other side

is, I mean, they... Don't you want safer
streets?

Right? I mean, that's the whole pitch.

Safer streets, one thing.

But they actually are saying that
there's a whole left -wing organized

movement. And it's not organized.

And it's not as bad as it was in the
early 70s with the Weathermen bombings.

It's not even like 2020 with the George
Floyd riots. But if you

make that case that this country is off
the hinges, then somebody's got to step

in. All right, I've got to step out.
Thank you, guys. Time for New York.

Okay. Neuro, now that Rite Aid has
officially closed all its locations,

have to tell us what's going to happen
to each store's one employee.

Because I kind of liked her.

Not just the lack of eye contact, but
also the sneering disdain for having to

her job of having to wait on you.

You know what, on second thought, bring
on the robots.

I was wrong about that.

No, the people complaining about bio
-baiting, which is where people on

apps purposely oversell themselves and
accentuate their good qualities, have to

tell us, as opposed to doing what?

Who is going to tell you the worst about
themselves?

Late sleeper whose lacks on hygiene
enjoys noisy dinners and short walks

anywhere but the beach.

And don't get me started on the herpes.

No, Foster Farms, who just recalled
millions of pounds of their frozen corn

because they contained extraneous
material.

Have to tell us, what's extraneous
material in a corn dog?

Actual meat?

Hey, stay in your lane, corn dogs. You
have one job and one job only, to create

unfortunate photos of presidential
candidates.

People now complaining that Bad Bunny
shouldn't headline the Super Bowl

show because he speaks Spanish have to
admit that when Kendrick Lamar

you had no idea what the fuck he was
saying either.

Newell, someone needs to explain what
the point is of leaving a review of an

airport.

Look, LadyPosh98 says the food court
doesn't have enough vegan options. I

we won't fly to see grandma ever again.

Well, airports aren't supposed to meet
your needs. They're purgatories with a

penned express.

You don't go because they're good. You
go because that's where the plane is.

New Rule, if you think your job is just
to tell people what they want to hear,

you're not a journalist.

You're a wedding DJ.

For years, I've complained about the
media only telling half the story, lying

omission when they leave out the part
that doesn't feed their narrative.

A couple of weeks ago, Fox News and the
New York Post committed the clearest

example of this I've ever seen.

when they described my editorial of
September 26, where I called for a grand

bargain between the far left and the far
right, but completely left out the far

right part.

The post headline was, Bill Maher calls
for a return to old America, tells left

to scale back radical ideology, smug
self -righteousness, all of which is

I said that, and I stand by it. But I
thought...

Shouldn't you have also put the other
half of what I said in your headline?

Well, I guess you'll get to it in the
article.

But you didn't do that either, you
fucking liars.

the right like disappearing people now
but i'm not going to let you disappear

point and this is what happens after
every show and not just on fox news and

just on the right ironically because the
blue sky crowd hates me for calling

them out on yes their voluminous
bullshit they also will sometimes just

critique of the left because they want
people to think i'm a conservative you

are fucking liars too

Here's a test.

Let's see who reports what I'm saying
now.

No.

No.

No, they won't because it's just so easy
not to. If a truth falls in the

algorithm, does it make a sound?

The Fox News New York Post piece even
went so far as to giddily recount all

places I carved up the woke.

and then have the balls to write,
wrapping up his monologue, Marr warned

liberals that if they keep pushing
radical progressive policies, those in

may never give that power back.

Yeah, I said that, and I believe that.
But that's not how I wrapped up my

monologue. Look, I have it here.

I have it.

That sentence...

Came here, top of page two. What about
this part?

The part that starts with, which brings
me to my friends on the right.

What happened to that part?

Here, let me read a chunk to you.

To my friends on the right, I say, an
authoritarian police state is not going

work for you either.

Do you know what a drag it is to
actually have to run a police state?

half the population is seething while
all the time you know down deep.

that they're right about America
becoming something it never was and

should be?

What happened to that part?

I don't want a retraction from you. I
want an addition.

Leaving that part out would be like
reviewing the movie Jaws and saying, it

with three men who go fishing but don't
catch anything.

Now, I know why you do this, short
answer, because you're cowards. Because

know if you print the part that
challenges your audience, you will get

tweets and texts, not to mention dirty
looks at the Lee Greenwood concert.

But, you know, there is a new spirit
taking hold in the media, and I think in

the country itself, a spirit of, let's
cut the bullshit on both sides, shall

And I'm proud this show has been a part
of fostering that. Why don't you jump on

the bandwagon? Because the model you're
working now isn't making you or your

readers look good. If you need every
story in your feed to be my team wins,

here's why my side is the good one,
you're weak and deliberately keeping

yourself ignorant. And yes, that goes
for both sides.

I thought you were the strong people who
laughed at safe spaces.

But you can't even read what I really
said unless mommy promises you it has a

happy ending.

Guys, we may not be heading for a happy
ending. And one reason is you keeping

people in their information ghettos,
which fosters hate and division and

you nothing more than a human algorithm.

And algorithms are as much as anything
what keeps this country so fucked up. I

can't tell you exactly how they work
because I'm not a virgin.

And I'm not a Bond villain who's on the
spectrum.

I know it's an evil gremlin that lives
inside our phones and that it knows what

you watch, what you like, what you
click, what you buy, what you jerk off

what you comment on.

It knows all that and then it owns you.

If you like it and love it, it gives you
more of it. And so you become a very

boring, intellectually stunted,
predictable person.

The good news is I have a way to break
out of this.

No, not by throwing your phone away. No
one would do that.

But there's a better way.

Fuck with the algorithm.

Fuck with it.

Stop.

Yeah. Stop letting it pigeonhole you.
It's so easy. Just click on something

normally wouldn't.

If you're a liberal, search for Morgan
Wallen tickets.

Order a set of shot glasses that looks
like a rifle.

Ask Google how to reattach a finger
after a bottle rocket accident.

And if you're a conservative, go to a
site that recaps the latest episode of

RuPaul's Drag Race.

Order a black lady turd cut on Amazon.

the Ruth Bader Ginsburg Halloween
costume.

And soon enough, your algorithm will
start treating you like a more well

-rounded, open -minded person, and who
knows, then maybe you'll actually become

one. All right. Thank you very much,
ladies and gentlemen. That's our show.

I want to thank Andrew R. Sorkin, Mark
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